Need prayer…

My sister just contacted me asking me to plead the Blood of Jesus over the whole family. She said God has been revealing things to her all day but she is not allowed to discuss it. She seemed manic and asked me not to probe. So I’m afraid she is having another episode again. Please pray for her and the family for whatever this is. Thank you!
Lord Jesus we lift up Michie and her sister, and her sister's family to You. Lord Jesus we plead Your precious blood over all of them. We ask You Lord Jesus to encamp them all with Your holy angels, to encircle them with Your flaming chariots. Lord Jesus we ask You to restore them, to rejuvenate them, to heal them and replenish their health, to resurrect them all on Your day. We ask this in the Holy name of Jesus, amen.
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The New and Improved No-Straw-Man Challenge

I’ll assume you know why I brought up Job 1 and 2. Here’s the pertinent part in response to John’s post.

Then the LORD said to Satan, “Behold, all that he has is in your power, only do not put forth your hand on him.” So Satan departed from the presence of the LORD.
— Job 1:12
Job 2:3 Then the Lord said to Satan, ..... even though you incited Me against him, to destroy him without just cause.” <-
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Trump blasts his trial judges. Then his fans call for violence.

That's a good post by Trump.

But there's no violence, no call for violence... He said New York was filled with violent crime and was taking a public poll for "Who's the worst judge"..

If people weren't unjustly prosecuting him he wouldn't make posts like that... And people wouldn't vote in the polls I'm sure..

Tell tptb not to act like a banana republic if it bothers you to be criticized for it.

A good post? A former POTUS is publicly attacking our judicial system.....

Tell you what, take a trip to Mexico and see what happens to Judges who stand up against powerful people there.....we're not that far away from that in this country.
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Houston-area school board votes to remove 13 chapters from state-approved science textbooks, citing controversial topics

I have not seen a presentation of facts that left me convinced of those conclusions.

The New York Tines’s podcast The Daily just had an episode today (May 15, 2024) about how climate changing is affecting home owners insurance. ‎The Daily: The Possible Collapse of the U.S. Home Insurance System on Apple Podcasts

Long story short: you may not believe climate change is happening, but insurance companies whose only idealogical ideal is “Make more money” are acting like it does and are going to make sure you wallet believes it is as well.
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Job 1 and 2....

Job 1 (Job 1:22 In all this, Job did not sin by charging God with wrongdoing.)

Job 1

Satan’s First Test of Job​


Satan is where, at this council? He's returned from earth and is on good speaking terms with God. Further more, Satan is looking to "TEMPT" Job. (James 1:13) expresses that God DOES not tempt. Let's think this through. God does TEST Character, for sure (Genesis 22:1) So, the idea that God by Proxy is TEMPTING JOB, is completely against God's Character. God isn't the origin of Evil, nor a bringer of evil, so we know that Satan has some unique leverage in this matter.

1: Satan is currently able to access Heaven.
2: Satan is lying to God, as if what he is doing to Job is a "good" thing.
3: Satan assumes that his purpose, to God, is to "TEMP/TEST" Job and all of creation, just like He did to EVE in the Garden of Eden. But think about the scriptural entrance to the matter. Satan is called out, apart from the "son's of God". He's a pretty powerful fellow in this snapshot, having a very HIGH position of authority in heaven. By now, we know that Satan is a HIGH angel of God and he has the POWER of DEATH. (Hebrews 2:14)
4: Satan doesn't realize WHO is actually being tested. (Job 41 in it's entirety, reveals just WHO is being TESTED)... and yet, Job 41 is buried within the pages of some of the most eloquent, deep and diverse Philosophy ever written. Satan most likely had no idea, at the time, that Leviathan was a reference to him.
5: God is, out of Grace, allowing Satan to uphold his self usurped position of Power, as Death and the Tempter.
6: God is most angry with Satan for bringing Death into His creation.
7: Satan is Proud and.. I can't believe this actually transpired within his prideful mind... UNDERESTIMATED GOD!


This is no laughing matter! At this moment, we see the words of a "Self Proclaimed god". (2 Corinthians 4:4)(Matthew 4:8)(Acts 7:53)(John 16:11)
I threw a verse in there that may seem out of place. It's in Acts and echo's a verse in Galatians. ... But, let's step aside from that verse, for a moment. Let's look square in the eyes of a biblical fact. GOD was the RULER of ALL CREATION, and had given FREE DOMINION over the entire Earth to Adam and Eve! (Genesis 1:26-28) Yet, we see that Satan deceived Eve (2 Corinthians 11:3) ... and know this... Adam and Eve were like CHILDREN, with the MOST LOVING FATHER in ALL of EXSISTANCE! Satan stole candy from a baby, so to speak! God wasn't angry with Adam or Eve! God knew WHO committed the ORIGONAL SIN! Satan attempted to appear as if he was this great, righteous, benevolent being, assisting God, by sorting the righteous from the wicked! Satan was storing up an OCEAN of human souls. Each soul that Satan claimed as a result of his judgment broke GOD'S Heart! (John 11:35)


Let's really think about God's words to Satan. God points Satan to a Human that Believes in God's Utter Benevolent Goodness! God then states that Job "Fears God and Turns away from Evil". This was a very tense moment, because Satan is standing there, possibly next to God, and attempting to appear RIGHTEOUS. That statement about Evil must have made the old goat sweat!


Satan is like the antithesis of an Advocate, of sorts! Satan is mediating between God and Mankind! Dollars to Donuts, he's more of a prosecution attorney! (Revelation 12:10) He is literally making a case... AGAINST Job! Yup! His prosecution is that God has blessed Job, but if God would take away his material possessions, Job will reveal that he hates God and is only happy because of the needs of his "belly" being met.


Satan has to make a divine case as to why God should let Satan take Jobs stuff away. Satan is pretending to serve God and thinks he is doing so with that imbued by God, positional power. In Eden, it's called a curse to the reader, but to Satan, that POWER of Death was the desire of his heart! Scripture won't let us down on that assertion, but for now... we will press forward. Satan is given permission to DESTROY, which Satan thinks he has tricked God into allowing.


God gives Satan marching orders, and the Prosecution Attorney of all mankind leaves the Heavenly dimension, then heads towards Job.

Job 2



Still doubting the direction we are headed? Does it not fall into place as God says; "THOUGH you INCITED Me against him, without JUST CAUSE"? The Stone Law isn't in place, yet. Therefore, Satan is acting without written documents that he can prosecute with, yet God deems Satan's Legal Case and Actions against Job, utterly void of Justice. God is most likely angry at and grieved by Satan, at this moment.
I’ll assume you know why I brought up Job 1 and 2. Here’s the pertinent part in response to John’s post.

Then the LORD said to Satan, “Behold, all that he has is in your power, only do not put forth your hand on him.” So Satan departed from the presence of the LORD.
— Job 1:12
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Affirm the Lord, For He is LORD

2 Peter 1:1-11. Verse 9, He hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
"Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:
Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,
According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ."

Romans 3:25,
"Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;"
Faith in His blood to declare His righteousness for the remission of sins that are past. Twice now it is written that this purging is of prior sins, ald sins, past sins.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11,
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God."

Verse 11, and such WERE some of you - not "are". Oh, but today we have the Christian drunkard, and drug addict, and fornicator, and adulterer, and all manner of sin and sinner with a Christian name hastily slapped on it like some cute little sticker you get in a store and put on your kid. That is not Christianity; is not what Jesus taught, or any of the apostles taught. It is devilish false religion.

Make a break with sin or sin will break you, for the wages of sin is death. Look at 1 Corinthians 5:11,
"But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat."
Yet today we cozy up to people and by our silence and "acceptance" and tolerance, we condemn them, and draw down judgment upon ourselves, for Ezekiel 33:8 says if you fail to warn the wicked, the wicked's blood shall be required at your hand. Ouch! Stings and smarts, doesn't it? It's not what we want to hear today, but it's Bible and it's truth!

Look over one chapter at Ezekiel 34:2-11. Is that too much Scripture to read? Before we read Ezekiel let's read Nehemiah 8:1-8,
"And all the people gathered themselves together as one man into the street that was before the water gate; and they spake unto Ezra the scribe to bring the book of the law of Moses, which the Lord had commanded to Israel.
And Ezra the priest brought the law before the congregation both of men and women, and all that could hear with understanding, upon the first day of the seventh month.
And he read therein before the street that was before the water gate from the morning until midday, before the men and the women, and those that could understand; and the ears of all the people were attentive unto the book of the law.
And Ezra the scribe stood upon a pulpit of wood, which they had made for the purpose; and beside him stood Mattithiah, and Shema, and Anaiah, and Urijah, and Hilkiah, and Maaseiah, on his right hand; and on his left hand, Pedaiah, and Mishael, and Malchiah, and Hashum, and Hashbadana, Zechariah, and Meshullam.
And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the people;) and when he opened it, all the people stood up:
And Ezra blessed the Lord, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the Lord with their faces to the ground.
Also Jeshua, and Bani, and Sherebiah, Jamin, Akkub, Shabbethai, Hodijah, Maaseiah, Kelita, Azariah, Jozabad, Hanan, Pelaiah, and the Levites, caused the people to understand the law: and the people stood in their place.
So they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to understand the reading."

That's literally "from the light" where it says morning, so the people heard the Word read for approximately 6 hours. In todays churches a lot of folk want to hear a few verses and some quick preaching and be done with it! Sad, just sad.
Now here is Ezekiel 34:
"Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?
Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed: but ye feed not the flock.
The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken, neither have ye brought again that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that which was lost; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them.
And they were scattered, because there is no shepherd: and they became meat to all the beasts of the field, when they were scattered.
My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them.
Therefore, ye shepherds, hear the word of the Lord;
As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became meat to every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flock;
Therefore, O ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;
Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them.
For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out."

This is what's happening today cuz way too many pastors, who are the shepherds, are just letting their flocks wander and scatter, and in some cases condoning the wanderings and scatterings, and Romans 1:32
And those who are refusing to judge among the sheep and allowing abominations, and even partaking in them themselves, how shall they escape the damnation of hell?

They feel confident in their sins, and call evil good, and good evil: they declare their sin as Sodom, while they name the Lord and mix up His holy name with other junk, trash, garbage, sewage, that reeks of new age and witchcraft, with their smiling platitudes and ungodly ways. They enlarge hell by those they send to hell, and are full of hell themselves, and children of it, and destined for it except they repent: dead things masquerading as ministers of Christ, and did not Paul warn of such false prophets?
Galatians 1:6-9,
"I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed."

2 Corinthians 11:13-15,
"For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works."

And Peter, 2 Peter 2:1-3 & 13,
"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not....
And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;"

Contrast now Psalm 45:11 & 13,
"So shall the king greatly desire thy beauty: for he is thy Lord; and worship thou him.,
The king's daughter is all glorious within: her clothing is of wrought gold."

The king's daughter is all glorious within, and arrayed in gold apparel: this is the description of the true child of God: glorious within and shining gold without; not the gold of money, or worldly prosperity, but the gold of fine fruit and gifts of the Spirit, "A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in pictures of silver. As an earring of gold, and an ornament of fine gold, so is a wise reprover upon an obedient ear." (Proverbs 25:11-12)

These things speak of purity within and without. "Create in me a clean heart O God and renew a right Spirit within me" as Psalm 51 declares. Let my works be those meet for repentance, and my steps carefully trod. Let me watch my steps, that I walk not on slippery places, for those who do, their foot shall slide in due time. Let my eyes look straight forward and my ears not hear profane things or any wicked word or song, and in this shall there be gloriousness within and gold garments without, shining so that they are white gold, as the righteousness of the saints, which comes of the gift of righteousness imparted by Christ and His righteousness.

Daniel 12:3,
"And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever."

"And they shall be mine, saith the Lord of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him." (Malachi 3:17)

"Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the LORD, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God." (Isaiah 62:3)

"And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away." (1 Peter 5:4)

HalleluYah! Praise be to the King of Kings and Lord of Lords to whom all glory belongs!

Amen & Amen.

Is modern secular society headed down the path to Sodom and Gomorrah.

You haven't been here on CF long enough to know me. Others here know very well that I can sometimes be curt or sarcastic.

I mean, if you want to 'be' Mormon, have at it! That's your choice and your call of the heart. I'd prefer to see it be more of a call of the Mind, but I realize that people are people and follow whatever comes their way. Besides, Life and social Reality doesn't exist for my sake.

So, as far as LDS goes, what do you want me to know about it over and above what my other sources have informed about regarding it?
I am a Latter-day Saint - not a "Mormon".

You are free to act however you want - I just don't like being referred to as a "by-product".

You are now aware that I don't like being referred to as either a "Mormon" or a "by-product" and that I thought you were very pleasant up until the end when you decided to be rude.

That is all I would like you to know about those things.

As to what I want you to know about LDS doctrine and history - the truth about them.

I like clearing up misconceptions about my faith that everyone seems to have because it may be the most misunderstood and misrepresented Christian faith out there.

Feel free to DM me if you have any further questions about LDS doctrine and history.

God bless.
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A volunteer friend of mine at the Rescue Mission

Her husband has suddenly fell very ill. They are calling hospice in. Please pray for her and her husband at this difficult time.

Thank you!
Lord Jesus we ask You to put Your healing hands on this woman's husband. We ask that You heal him, strengthen, rejuvenate, restore, replenish him. We ask that You strengthen, rejuvenate, restore, replenish his wife also. Lord Jesus we ask You to encamp them with Your angels to keep them and resurrect them. In Jesus's name, amen.
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Trump blasts his trial judges. Then his fans call for violence.

It’s going to be fun in twenty years when what’s left of Christianity vehemently claims that no true Christian ever supported Donald Trump. That Trump was sent by Satan to destroy the Church and unfortunately did a great deal of damage. That countless people saw fake Christians support Trump and turned from Christ because of it.

Don’t worry Trump supporters, I will be there defending your faith telling them you were absolutely Bible believing Christians supporting Donald Trump.
I gotta admit that this is one of the most creative insulting predictions that I've read on this forum in a while.
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Trump blasts his trial judges. Then his fans call for violence.

It’s going to be fun in twenty years when what’s left of Christianity vehemently claims that no true Christian ever supported Donald Trump. That Trump was sent by Satan to destroy the Church and unfortunately did a great deal of damage. That countless people saw fake Christians support Trump and turned from Christ because of it.

Don’t worry Trump supporters, I will be there defending your faith telling them you were absolutely Bible believing Christians supporting Donald Trump.
My brother, as a Christian myself, I have also noticed a lot of Christians on both sides of the aisle doing the same thing. For instance, Joe Biden mocked our faith by making a sign of the cross at a pro-abortion rally (emulating the Cafeteria Christian of 2 Timothy 4:3): President Biden mocks our Catholic faith

Yes, Trump has pretty much all of the characteristics of the man in Psalm 10:2-7 (the wicked man), so in other words, both candidates have strayed far from the Bible, and I am really tempted to vote for Bugs Bunny. Just a Christian centrist's words here, so you do not have to take my word for it, the sins of the two candidates are straight from the Bible.
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Trump blasts his trial judges. Then his fans call for violence.

Actually, right wing violence has been found in a study to be worse that left wing.

Across both datasets, we find that radical acts perpetrated by individuals associated with left-wing causes are less likely to be violent. In the United States, we find no difference between the level of violence perpetrated by right-wing and Islamist extremists. However, differences in violence emerge on the global level, with Islamist extremists being more likely than right-wing extremists to engage in more violent acts.​

LEFT-WING VERSUS RIGHT-WING EXTREMISM​

Of these three ideologies, most prior research has contrasted those committed to right-wing and left-wing causes. Much of this research suggests that compared to left-wing extremists, right-wing extremists may be more likely to engage in politically motivated violence. In comparison to left-wing supporters, right-wing individuals are more often characterized by closed-mindedness and dogmatism (9) and a heightened need for order, structure, and cognitive closure (5). Because such characteristics have been found to increase in-group bias and lead to greater out-group hostility (10), violence for a cause may be more likely among proponents of right-wing ideologies. In contrast, in comparison to their right-wing counterparts, left-wing individuals score higher on openness to new experiences, cognitive complexity, and tolerance of uncertainty (5). They are also less likely to support social dominance (11), which could lead to their overall lower likelihood to use violence against adversaries. In line with this reasoning, some studies have demonstrated an empathy gap between liberal and conservative individuals (12). Finally, according to various conceptualizations and operationalizations of right-wing authoritarianism (RWA; 1315), aggressive tendencies constitute an inherent component of this construct, with people high in RWA being more hostile toward others who violate norms than those low in RWA. A recent meta-analysis supported this conclusion, revealing a positive relationship between right-wing ideology and aggressive attitudes and behaviors (16). However, the study did not focus solely on politicized contexts and included only milder forms of aggression.​

Militant, nationalistic, white supremacist violent extremism has increased in the United States. In fact, the number of far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism. Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives.[1] In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.[2] A recent threat assessment by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security concluded that domestic violent extremists are an acute threat and highlighted a probability that COVID-19 pandemic-related stressors, long-standing ideological grievances related to immigration, and narratives surrounding electoral fraud will continue to serve as a justification for violent actions.[3]
Is Antifa a far right, or a far left group?
What side of the political spectrum may the violence during the BLM riots be attributed? What side of the extremists spectrum does the violence from the pro-Hamas, pro-Palestinian protests represent? Did the violence or threats against conservatives on the SCOTUS come from the far right?

Although the far right extremists shall commit actions that I can never condone, let us not forget all the many times in the last decade that the far left extremists have committed deplorable actions. Also, the current Department of Homeland Security is being run by liberal politicians whom allow their political bias to effect their discernment.
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Biden release 14 second challenge to debate Trump - takes 5 times to get it right

Special anti-old-timers drugs. The kind where you look almost normal for a while. That’s why a drug test could be quite revealing. But it might reveal Trump is on them too.

Where can I get some?
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WELCOME

Hello brothers and sisters :)

Today something was revealed to me. I will not tell you the full secret as of yet. I want to see if we can get the same conclusion.

Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.​
Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.​
Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.​
Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.​
Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.​
Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.​
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.​
Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.​

I have been reading the Bible for 14 years, and this passage multiple times of course. Normally, I would just consider them pretty words. They sure do give the reader some hope. But only some. The rest of the meaning is actually conveyed between the lines, where the full hope and understanding is.

Now a person poor in the spirit will not pride himself in his own works, and for complete poverty, he will never do it again. Blessed are you indeed if you come to this point in your life, for now you can seek his kingdom, never turning back, forsaking everything else, and, like the general who counts his resources before entering a battle, you can be sure you have what it takes to be a hier of the kingdom.

You will not know what mourning is, until you suffer His Grace, and you will indeed be comforted.

Blessed are the meek, who do not make flesh their strength. For no other can inherit the earth.

We may not doubt that God is righteous, and not only that, his perfect righteousness will be manifested to us, that we may never doubt again, when we see His Work unfold before us.

Blessed are the merciful, not only because we do not want to be measured with the same measure, or worse yet, not even hold up to our own standard, but because we see the mercy already given to us.

Blessed are the pure in heart, for no lies will deceive those, who have nothing left to hide, and no thing left on the earth, to put before God.

Blessed are the peacemakers, for God is not willing, that anyone should perish.

Blessed are those who are persecuted for rightousness' sake, for just like those who are poor in spirit, we have counted, and we have entered battle, and we are just at the finish line.


Now If I were to turn that upside down, what kind of man would I get?

A prideful, unregretful, boastful, unrighteous, merciless, foul hearted, reviler-fence sitter?

Sound familiar?

Behold, I have not told you the secret yet.
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The New and Improved No-Straw-Man Challenge

You may want to reread Job 1-2.
Job 1 and 2....

Job 1 (Job 1:22 In all this, Job did not sin by charging God with wrongdoing.)

Job 1

Satan’s First Test of Job​

6 One day the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan[b] also came with them. 7 The Lord asked Satan, “Where have you come from?”
Satan is where, at this council? He's returned from earth and is on good speaking terms with God. Further more, Satan is looking to "TEMPT" Job. (James 1:13) expresses that God DOES not tempt. Let's think this through. God does TEST Character, for sure (Genesis 22:1) So, the idea that God by Proxy is TEMPTING JOB, is completely against God's Character. God isn't the origin of Evil, nor a bringer of evil, so we know that Satan has some unique leverage in this matter.

1: Satan is currently able to access Heaven.
2: Satan is lying to God, as if what he is doing to Job is a "good" thing.
3: Satan assumes that his purpose, to God, is to "TEMP/TEST" Job and all of creation, just like He did to EVE in the Garden of Eden. But think about the scriptural entrance to the matter. Satan is called out, apart from the "son's of God". He's a pretty powerful fellow in this snapshot, having a very HIGH position of authority in heaven. By now, we know that Satan is a HIGH angel of God and he has the POWER of DEATH. (Hebrews 2:14)
4: Satan doesn't realize WHO is actually being tested. (Job 41 in it's entirety, reveals just WHO is being TESTED)... and yet, Job 41 is buried within the pages of some of the most eloquent, deep and diverse Philosophy ever written. Satan most likely had no idea, at the time, that Leviathan was a reference to him.
5: God is, out of Grace, allowing Satan to uphold his self usurped position of Power, as Death and the Tempter.
6: God is most angry with Satan for bringing Death into His creation.
7: Satan is Proud and.. I can't believe this actually transpired within his prideful mind... UNDERESTIMATED GOD!

“From roaming through the earth,” Satan answered Him, “and walking around on it.”
This is no laughing matter! At this moment, we see the words of a "Self Proclaimed god". (2 Corinthians 4:4)(Matthew 4:8)(Acts 7:53)(John 16:11)
I threw a verse in there that may seem out of place. It's in Acts and echo's a verse in Galatians. ... But, let's step aside from that verse, for a moment. Let's look square in the eyes of a biblical fact. GOD was the RULER of ALL CREATION, and had given FREE DOMINION over the entire Earth to Adam and Eve! (Genesis 1:26-28) Yet, we see that Satan deceived Eve (2 Corinthians 11:3) ... and know this... Adam and Eve were like CHILDREN, with the MOST LOVING FATHER in ALL of EXSISTANCE! Satan stole candy from a baby, so to speak! God wasn't angry with Adam or Eve! God knew WHO committed the ORIGONAL SIN! Satan attempted to appear as if he was this great, righteous, benevolent being, assisting God, by sorting the righteous from the wicked! Satan was storing up an OCEAN of human souls. Each soul that Satan claimed as a result of his judgment broke GOD'S Heart! (John 11:35)

8 Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered My servant Job? No one else on earth is like him, a man of perfect integrity, who fears God and turns away from evil.”
Let's really think about God's words to Satan. God points Satan to a Human that Believes in God's Utter Benevolent Goodness! God then states that Job "Fears God and Turns away from Evil". This was a very tense moment, because Satan is standing there, possibly next to God, and attempting to appear RIGHTEOUS. That statement about Evil must have made the old goat sweat!

9 Satan answered the Lord, “Does Job fear God for nothing? 10 Haven’t You placed a hedge around him, his household, and everything he owns? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land.
Satan is like the antithesis of an Advocate, of sorts! Satan is mediating between God and Mankind! Dollars to Donuts, he's more of a prosecution attorney! (Revelation 12:10) He is literally making a case... AGAINST Job! Yup! His prosecution is that God has blessed Job, but if God would take away his material possessions, Job will reveal that he hates God and is only happy because of the needs of his "belly" being met.

11 But stretch out Your hand and strike everything he owns, and he will surely curse You to Your face.”
Satan has to make a divine case as to why God should let Satan take Jobs stuff away. Satan is pretending to serve God and thinks he is doing so with that imbued by God, positional power. In Eden, it's called a curse to the reader, but to Satan, that POWER of Death was the desire of his heart! Scripture won't let us down on that assertion, but for now... we will press forward. Satan is given permission to DESTROY, which Satan thinks he has tricked God into allowing.

12 “Very well,” the Lord told Satan, “everything he owns is in your power. However, you must not lay a hand on Job himself.” So Satan left the Lord’s presence
God gives Satan marching orders, and the Prosecution Attorney of all mankind leaves the Heavenly dimension, then heads towards Job.

Job 2

3 Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered My servant Job? No one else on earth is like him, a man of perfect integrity, who fears God and turns away from evil. He still retains his integrity, even though you incited Me against him, to destroy him without just cause.”

Still doubting the direction we are headed? Does it not fall into place as God says; "THOUGH you INCITED Me against him, without JUST CAUSE"? The Stone Law isn't in place, yet. Therefore, Satan is acting without written documents that he can prosecute with, yet God deems Satan's Legal Case and Actions against Job, utterly void of Justice. God is most likely angry at and grieved by Satan, at this moment.
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IS 2 COR 3:6 SPEAKING ABOUT THE NEW COVENANT ?

The Lord always proves Himself faithful to those who keep His covenant and His testimonies. Psalm 25:10
The counsel of the Lord is for those who honor him [Ps 50:23, Ps 118:21-22] so that he may reveal his covenant to them. Psalm 25:14

Maintain justice and do what is right, for my salvation is close at hand and my righteousness will soon be revealed. Isa 56:1
I have learned a lot from David about the benefits of following the law of God. Not the scarifies on the alter but the sacrifices we make to be holy, pure, consecrated and dedicated to God.
He has sent redemption to His people; He has commanded His covenant forever: Holy and awesome is His name. Psalm 111:9
They will be called the Holy People, the Redeemed of the Lord; Isa 62:12
Psalm 51:16 says, "You do not delight in sacrifice, or I would bring it; you do not take pleasure in burnt offerings".
For I desire mercy and not sacrifice, And the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings. Hosea 6:6
[The peoples exhaust themselves for nothing. For the earth will be filled With the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, Habakkuk 2:13-14]

Therefore, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, present yourselves as a living sacrifice, [alive from the dead Rom 6:13]
holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship. Rom 12:1
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Prayer for coworker

One of my younger co-workers has ran away from home. I'm not privy to the details, but from what I understand he has some major trouble with his dad (possibly abuse?).

Please pray the Lord will work His Will in their lives, thank you.
Lord Jesus we lift up this young man to You, please watch over him, encamp Your angels around him to keep him safe, warm, feed and in Your ways. Lord Jesus we ask that You minister to his family as well that all of them have a safe place and that You help meet their needs. In Jesus's name, amen.
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Bishop Paprocki: Biden Mocks Catholic Faith by Invoking Christ in Pro-Abortion Message

Shepherd of Springfield, Illinois, is accusing the president of ‘making a mockery of our Catholic faith’ after he made the Sign of the Cross while promoting abortion.
Bishop Thomas Paprocki of Springfield, Illinois

Bishop Thomas Paprocki of Springfield, Illinois (photo: Diocese of Springfield in Illinois)

Bishop Thomas Paprocki of the Diocese of Springfield, Illinois, is accusing President Joe Biden of “making a mockery of our Catholic faith” after he made the Sign of the Cross while promoting abortion.

Biden, who is the country’s second Catholic president, made the Sign of the Cross at an abortion rally in Tampa, Florida, more than two weeks ago. In his speech, the president criticized Catholic Gov. Ron DeSantis for signing a bill that restricts abortion after six weeks of pregnancy. The governor had previously helped enact legislation limiting abortion to 15 weeks of pregnancy.

“Making the Sign of the Cross is one of the most profound gestures a Catholic can make in showing reverence for Christ’s death on the cross and belief in the Holy Trinity as we sign ourselves in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,” the bishop said.

Bishop Paprocki expanded on his criticism of Biden on the diocesan Dive Deep podcast the following day, May 9, saying Biden is “mocking the gesture” of the Sign of the Cross because he was doing it “to promote something that was evil, and that’s what makes it sacrilegious.”

Continued below.
I made the same post, but with a 5 minute video on it: President Biden mocks our Catholic faith
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