Surrounded by Saints in New Jersey: Reverence Relics in the Hundreds Across the Hudson
- By RileyG
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
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You know the old saying "God works in mysterious ways?"i can understand how different results occur during various studies but if God can or does answer prayer, shouldn’t there be SOME indication that God answered them sometimes? I mean, don’t all the studies prove prayer has no effect whatsoever? And if so, what’s the point of prayer other than thanking God?
To be entirely accurate, Trump was a criminal, so I assume so, yes.It's a contradiction, isn't it?
I mean, for me the sad part is that a child was sexually abused… But sure, let’s pretend the bullet point one should come away with is about transgender people.![]()
Transgender ex-lawmaker, first in state's history, pleads guilty to federal child sex abuse charges
Stacie-Marie Laughton, who has been called the first openly transgender elected lawmaker in U.S. history, pleaded guilty to federal child sex abuse charges in Boston court.www.yahoo.com
It's sad that there is a part of our culture that promotes transitioning.
Could you please provide scripture to support his statement "As far as Sheol, it’s actually divided into two separate places. Abraham’s Bosom is the place for the righteous, and Hades is the place for the wicked where they do suffer in torment until judgment day when they will be judged then thrown into the lake of fire."Why didn’t you quote any of the passages that do actually support eternal punishment?
“These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.””
Matthew 25:46 NASB1995
“If your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life lame, than, having your two feet, to be cast into hell, [where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.] If your eye causes you to stumble, throw it out; it is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, than, having two eyes, to be cast into hell, where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.”
Mark 9:45-48 NASB1995
“dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,”
2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 NASB1995
“he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.””
Revelation 14:10-11 NASB1995
“And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.”
Revelation 20:10-15 NASB1995
So there is scriptural evidence to support eternal torment. However evidence isn’t necessarily proof and annihilation could be considered an eternal punishment because there’s no coming back from it. As far as your definition of the Greek word aionios that word is used to describe things that are in fact eternal and never ending. Like for example God’s reign, His glory, His kingdom, even God Himself, also the life, redemption, salvation, and inheritance that we receive in Christ. None of these are temporal and yet the word aionios is used to describe them.
As far as Sheol, it’s actually divided into two separate places. Abraham’s Bosom is the place for the righteous, and Hades is the place for the wicked where they do suffer in torment until judgment day when they will be judged then thrown into the lake of fire. So yeah Sheol is temporary, but once the wicked are taken out of Sheol that’s not the end of their punishment. They will either suffer eternal torment in the lake of fire or annihilation, they will not receive eternal life and enter into God’s kingdom. So hell is a real place according to the Bible, hell is just a word invented to refer to the place of punishment for the wicked. And yes Jesus used the word Gehenna but He used Gehenna as an illustration of what would take place after judgement. He wasn’t telling people that their soul would literally be destroyed in the place outside of Jerusalem where garbage and dead bodies were burned.
Saying doesn’t Make it true.Through your theological lense I see why you have to interpret the passage as you do...
Your lense requires you to modify the plain reading of the text - this is a repeating pattern.
Not technically. They have to look mexican and do something illegal immigrants do like wait for a bus or go to home depot.
Chosen in Him vs Free Will Choice
- It is not our human choice whether God chose us in Him or not, that choice is His alone.
- He gives us free will to choose Him. I showed this in Ephesians 1:4-6.
Ephesians 1:4-6 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
- Should indicates human choice. God wants us to choose Him, but it is our choice to choose Him or not and live according to His will.
- Predestined → unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to Himself. In other words, John 3:16-17.
John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
- Whosoever believeth in Him (believe; human choice) should not perish
- That the world (all of us) through Him might (conditional; human choice) be saved
Jesus speaking to the disciples:
John 15:14-16 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you. Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you. Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.James:
- If ye do whatsoever I command you (do; human choice)
- That ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain (go and bring forth fruit; human choice)
James 2:5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world to be rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?The Book of Life from the Foundation of the World
- Chosen to be rich in faith (be rich in faith; human choice)
- ...heirs of the kingdom which He hath promised...
- ...to them that love Him (love Him; human choice)
Revelation 13:8 and 17:8 can be read one of two ways.
The question is, which position does scripture support?
- All names were written in the book of life from the foundation of the world.
- It is the book of life itself that is from the foundation of the world. Names are written and blotted out as each person makes their choice concerning God throughout their lifetime, once each case is determined.
In 2 Peter 3 we find that God is long-suffering; He is waiting for all to come to repentance. God has chosen us in Him, but He is waiting for us to choose Him. If all names were written in the book of life, how then are we found in need of repentance?
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Lastly, we have Exodus 32:33, which should settle the issue.
Exodus 32:33 And the Lord said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.Let me state my position so that it is clear. This is my last post. You can agree to disagree, and you can respond with your rebuttal. Let the reader decide through prayerful study of the Bible.
- Whosoever hath sinned against me (human choice)
- Against me (against God's will)
- Sin can cause names to be blotted out of the book of life.
- If names are written in the book of life from the foundation of the world (from the beginning), those names would likely be blotted out because of unrepentant sin, and remain blotted out until there is repentance and a newness of life.
1. God having chosen us in Him is in no way negated by the free will He has given us to choose Him or not.
2. We are not predetermined to be saved or lost. Each of us has a choice of our own free will.
3. If names are blotted out for sinning against Him (Exodus 32:33), then names can be written back in for choosing Him and doing His will.
4. If all have sinned, then our names are not in the book of life (blotted because of sin) until we have repented and live according to His will.
Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Feel free to share your list. I mean of course there will be some...these are people who broke LAWS.Many of the pardon's Biden gave are questionable as well it's not a one sided thing.
Sanctions aren't all he's considering.
Trump threatens to cut off aid to Nigeria, possible military action over claims of 'killing of Christians'
"If the Nigerian Government continues to allow the killing of Christians, the U.S.A. will immediately stop all aid and assistance to Nigeria, and may very well go into that now disgraced country, "guns-a-blazing,"
Ehh…?Of course he is! He is married to Nancy who has all the insider info to give him!
Sounds like a great experience!I heard the Trappist Monks in Spencer MA chant the Apostles Creed in English. It was awesome!
Agreed. The lack of sense of sin is our greatest failing, imo.Just one of many reasons America will eventually be judged. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow... but it will be.