essentialsaltes said:

'Con job!' Trump snaps at reporter over fact check on his big Thanksgiving claim​

"Mr. President, since you brought up the Walmart Thanksgiving meal, and it is cheaper, but it also contains less," the reporter noted.

"Fake news!" Trump bellowed. "NBC, you're fake news! NBC's gone down the tubes along with most of the rest of them."

"So that would mean that the whole series of pricing and costs, you know, the groceries and everything else, it was a con job. It was a con job, affordability, they call it, was a con job by the Democrats."

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Gotta trust an expert.

Logos

By Him, the first light was shone forth

Through Him, constellations were set out

For Him, humans were made

The Word Is God, creator of all things


Melchizedek

Without father nor mother

He was like unto the Son of God

Being the King of Peace

To rule the realm of His kingdom sovereignly

Being the High Priest of God

To make intercession for His people perpetually

He Is the God's anointed, ruler of all realms


The Angel of the Lord

God's messenger equal to God Himself

To the wicked, He brought judgment

To the blessed, He brought good tidings

With Him, the Word of the Lord ruled

With Him, the oracles proclaimed

With Him, the promises fulfilled

He Is the Lord, the Sovereign One of all mankind

As with everything, it will depend on how it is used by each individual user, being of very great benefit to some, but while also at the same time, being of very great harm to others, and in that way, AI is no different from Google, or the Internet, or Social Media, or any other great invention/advancement of humankind.

God Bless.

Who is clean enough?

keras said:

Ask someone: What is a large round object; longer than its diameter, that has its contents under a lead cover and it flies long distances through the atmosphere? Just about everyone today would answer: A nuke missile.

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Now ask them about a flying scroll that has a message on it regarding thieves and those who speak falsely; ask them to explain how that is like a nuclear missile.
They'll either say that it isn't, and/or tell you to stop talking nonsense.

keras said:

It is not possible for Gods Prophets to be wrong.

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You're not a prophet. You were wrong in 2012.

keras said:

God will take action in His Creation again, as He did in the days of Noah.

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Yes, because Jesus will return one day.
It may not be in the way, and at the time, that you're expecting.

It seems that there is a new language online with the faith since I became a Christian. When I was growing up and being taught in school and I went to a Catholic school we was taught about God's Divine Mercy which was more of a Catholic thing for extreme events. Now they talk about God's mercy non stop for the most smallest of things. They also say's with Christ rest, we all go to eternal life if we believe in his death and rescurrection, we do nothing than this and also there is no hell or us. A lot of this is coming from Hebrews 4. Saying we will all get through takes away their being there any paths and voiding some way a need to do anything or lift a finger and the idea of going to church is out. Me, I do believe in Christ's rest to eternal life to, but not that we will all get through.

With God we see more about his love the father and I never expected him to love me so much being in perfect as such, but for me to love him, depend on him and respect him. He has many faces and is always righteous, even with his love and not always get the response you want. There is also some almost Budda icons saying to be Jesus Christ and you go in front of and you pretend it to be him, anything seems to go. Now there is a mouse with Jesus Christ in the vatician which is cute, but seems we are going into a Mikey mouse club with all of this (joke) and whilst love is important to me, this is presenting a change. Sometimes change is necessary and I am a big fan of trying to show God's different faces and he can be tender hearted and shrewd if he wants to be to someone is evil in behaviour, but this changing face seems to be in overdrive and slightly radical.

I think some of the language is changing-like trust in God they are saying now God's rest a lot, it basically means the same.
I got this-
"Trusting God leads to His rest, which is a state of spiritual peace and contentment found by surrendering worries and relying on His strength, not your own. This rest isn't just physical; it's an assurance found in Christ's completed work for salvation, allowing you to cease striving and find peace in His presence and provision. To enter this rest, you must have faith in God, surrender your anxieties, and cease your own self-justifying efforts."

I got this for Hebrews 4, (Hebrews 4:1) “Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.” This scripture is also used to support not upholding the Sabbath. This scripture does not ask us to stop upholding the Sabbath, but it questions us and guides to enter into a deeper spiritual relationship with Jesus rather than just worshipping and not developing your spiritual life. Developing spiritually through the Holy Spirit helps you to develop your spiritual journey with Christ.

Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
Another version
Now God has offered us the promise that we may receive that rest he spoke about. et us take care then, that none of you will be found to have failed to recieved the promised rest.

I read this-
Heb 4:11 "Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience." (NKJV)
That verse implies vigilance and an active pursuing of obedience. The grace of salvation is free, but discipleship requires diligence.

In Revelations 2-Jesus said not everybody will make it through and there were some commited pastors who didn't who did great work so that go against those who we all get through if we believe.

Now I thought I could find out from some of you what do you mean by rest in Christ and what is your understanding of Hebrews 4.

"Despite ICE law enforcement officers’ several attempts to deescalate the situation and repeated requests that the father take custody of the child, both parents stated they were willing to put the child into state custody," a DHS news release states. "Once Zapata Rivera realized he would be arrested for immigration violations if he did not agree to take custody of the child, he suddenly decided to be a good father and left with the child."
During the arrest of Ojeda-Montoya, she resisted arrest and a crowd of agitators formed, authorities said.

It's important to get past the initial major media stories and reveal the truth.

JulieB67 said:

What are your thoughts on the other tribes?

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Well for me in my life I go by (Galatians 3:28) that we are all equal before God, there is no Jew or Greek. God appears passionate about though about trying to call the Israelites which I will support him with, some may wonder why given history how they left him but that is what it looks like in the Bible. I love the lion of Judah really as that represents Jesus and David line roots as well. I find geography interesting, especially how the world was shaped and where my parents descend from. I cannot claim to be an expert on all the other tribes. My parents come a country with tribes and I am not into them.
I have read that some say that Jesus will not return until more take up the Cross which I find interesting to.

I like Romans 11 and the image of the Olive tree. I have changed it to God's Olive as someone wrote. Some people may want to claim it for themselves though and their own portion.

A New Dawn said:

Can you give a scriptural reference that says we must believe in Jesus’ death and resurrection in order to be saved? We are saved by faith through grace that He is the Son of God who has come to save us from our sins (which he accomplishes by His death and resurrection) but it isn’t the process that saves us, it is Christ.

Lots of people are saved without having any theological knowledge, because they put their faith in Christ.

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chevyontheriver said:

The boundaries of districts are a state responsibility. The only requirement is that more or less the same number of people is in each district. So there is no Federal government control of district boundaries. But do you think that would automagically fix anything?

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Actually, the Federal government does have the ability to take control of district boundaries. As the Constitution itself says:

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

And Congress has indeed done so; see, for example, the Uniform Congressional District Act from 1967, which gives a bunch of requirements for states choosing districts. So the federal government does have the ability to take control of district boundaries and has on various occasions passed laws giving requirements for them.

Now, your post was from 2 months ago (this topic recently got bumped), but I do not believe anyone previously commented on this point, so I thought I should.

Daniel Marsh said:

It is a great verse to use with Latter day saints because they think they will become a god.

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Maybe, but although the LDS position may sound heretic initially (and I'm not affiliated with them in any way) - the Christian church has from early on expressed views that are quite close to that. It's very similar to the Theosis concept from the Orthodox Church - in a believer progressing sanctification leads to divinisation. This has been expressed explicitly even by Athanasius - a key theologian in the formulation of the Nicene Creed (325 AD) and later theological developments:

God became man so that man might become god. (Athanasius, On the Incarnation - s. 54)

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That sounds unfamiliar and even scary for a founding father of the Trinity doctrine isn't it?

And there are Bible verses backing up that view:





Similar views have been expressed by Irenaeus of Lyon, Clement of Alexandria and Gregory of Nazianzus (all of which we still have literature).

And let's not forget that even Yeshua quotes Psalm 82:6 in John 10:34-36, confirming that Psalm refers to human beings to as 'el (Hebrew) / god'. I.e. the Hebrew or Greek word 'el' / 'theos' could refer to other entities beside the One (YHWH). We never hear sermons on this verse, but Yeshua's citation of the Psalm is unambiguous in its meaning and application.

PS - this post is not to be taken as an endorsement of the LDS at all

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durangodawood said:

I don think so. Regarding "holding elections"

Time: Tues, or all week - for example
Place: County court houses, or online, etc
Manner: hand counted paper ballots, or various machines, etc

How elections get held is a different question than what things exactly you are voting on. In this case, the thing you are voting for is a representative in congress. Discretion over the mechanics of holding elections should not allow states (nor the congress) to degrade the whole concept of representation.

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It is a bit confusing to me as to what you are trying to argue. I pointed out how congress has the ability to set its own rules for House and Senate elections, overturning those of states. You seem to be arguing they can't? Except, once again, as the Constitution says:

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

So Congress can overrule them, and it has on various occasions (usually more in the form of establishing general requirements rather than micro-managing things).

Or perhaps you are trying to claim that even states can't decide things like congressional districts? But it's obvious that's included, because states have been doing that since the day the Constitution was ratified. The idea that states don't have the ability to set their districts doesn't make sense, that's obviously include in "manner" and is what every state has done since it started holding House elections.

Actually, the requirement of single-member districts is a requirement by Congress, most recently reiterated I believe in the 1970 Uniform Congressional District Act. I think they should get rid of it, which would allow states to experiment with things like multi-member districts or even proportional representation, but for now it is still the law and was an example of how these things can be set by congress.

Greetings Cecile,
Quite well said! This is indeed one of the defining drives that draws so many of us to missionary work. It's a connecting thread that links us back to our forebear ministries from thousands of years ago. Continuing to preach and spread the joy of the Good News. It's an extra joy to do so in a community of like-minded souls with the same enthusiasm.

BPPLEE said:

Poor people used to buy their groceries from little Mom and Pop stores in their communities. They paid higher prices but the stores were close by and most gave them credit and let them have charge accounts.
Walmart put most of those types of stores out of business about 30 years ago . There were a lot of items like OTC medicine and health and beauty aids that Walmart sold below cost to attract shoppers. Now they charge what they want.

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Once upon a time and still in most countries there would be little fruit and vegetable stands popping up in what we now call "food deserts." When I was a kid ('40s and '50s) we bought our vegetables from a man who came around with a horse and wagon selling vegetables he grew himself. That kind of enterprise used to be called a "free market capitalism." Nowadays the only street business with enough cash flow to justify the risk of arrest is drugs. On the other hand, my son lives in the Fruitvale neighborhood of Oakland which is controlled by the Sureños so street businesses flourish under their protection. The street food is fantastic, you can pick up a dinner for four for about ten bucks.

It's what Walmart and similar stores are doing that's now called "free enterprise" and the street businesses, the mom and pop storekeepers and other small-scale enterpreneurs are "socialists."

GodAndChocolateVanilla said:

Praying for you @GodDoesListen55!! [Hugs]

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Thanks so much!

peaceful-forest said:

I have a family member that is going through some trouble. He is in his 20s, has money problems, smokes marijuana, and is expecting a baby with his girlfriend.

I have thought about buying this family member a Bible, but I do not know which one to buy him. I believe his current problems are happening and God is allowing them so that this family member will turn to Christ for salvation.

What recommendations do you all have?

Thanks.

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I'm a bit late on this, but everyone has an opinion right..

King James Version is high level English, so unless they are extra-gifted with literature this is not good for fast comprehension of the intended meaning of the text.

I personally feel the Berean Standard Bible and English Standard Version are two good translations that are on the more extremely high level accuracy to original text and its meaning, aside from very deep technical studies. They are also incredibly easy to understand.

If I were to suggest particular books to a younger person or new believer, shorter is better and Romans, Ephesians, Philippians, Galatians, and 1st John are slam full of the majority of major concepts a person needs to see the truth. The Gospels of course, are a given, especially the book of John, but are longer reading than the first five listed.

Romans is also upheld by majority of scholars to be the most profound book in the Bible, and most impacting if read consistently. I never leave it out if someone asks what to read, it is usually first on the list or the one I recommend if they want to master a single book.

Desk trauma said:

Now on top of my prescription going down 1000% in price I am also going to loose close to 200% of my body weight by this time next year:

Dr. Oz made a stunning estimate after Trump’s obesity drug deals: ’135 billion’ pounds​

Oz initially stated that those agreements could help Americans lose a collective 125 million pounds by the 2026 midterms. He later adjusted that number – by a staggering amount.

“We thought it was 125 million pounds,” Oz said. “Mr. President, our estimate, based on the company numbers as well, is that Americans will lose 135 billion pounds by the midterms.”

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Yeah, well, that kind of thing can happen when people are no longer able to afford to eat.

-- A2SG, but we'll have the best, most greatest economy EVER.....

The Liturgist said:

On the contrary, soul sleep is a novel interpretation which was unknown in the early church and which is contradicted by the words of our Lord to the Good Thief on the Cross.

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Soul sleep is not found anywhere in scripture. I don't know who believed it if anyone ever did. Rather again I think it was a name someone made up and sarcastically applied to those who believe in the sleep of the dead. Wikipedia suggests it was John Calvin. Scripture itself refers to the dead as sleeping many times over. When someone dies, the soul dies, as all the living are living souls. There is no soul sleep. There are living souls, and souls which have died and are therefore no more. The Bible never speaks of soul sleep or immortal souls, these are extra biblical terms. It speaks of living souls, and souls dying. The dead are referred to as asleep, because the sleeping eventually wake up, which is what the resurrection is all about.

Dan 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Luk 8:51 And when he came into the house, he suffered no man to go in, save Peter, and James, and John, and the father and the mother of the maiden. 52 And all wept, and bewailed her: but he said, Weep not; she is not dead, but sleepeth. 53 And they laughed him to scorn, knowing that she was dead. 54 And he put them all out, and took her by the hand, and called, saying, Maid, arise. 55 And her spirit came again, and she arose straightway: and he commanded to give her meat.

Jhn 11:11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep. 12 Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well. 13 Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep.
14 Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.

1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

1Th 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

As far as the thief on the cross goes, a misplaced comma makes a big difference. If it is before the word today it means both Christ and the thief would be in paradise that day, if after, it would simply be a promise that the thief would be in paradise with Jesus when all the rest of us are as well. The problem with it meaning that Christ and the thief would be in paradise the day of their crucifixions is that our Lord did not go to paradise that day. As other scriptures testify.

Jhn 20:16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.
17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. 18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.

Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Perhaps, if we wish to continue this discussion, I will start another topic on the history of the term or belief in soul sleep. For however long that might last, as well as this topic, since so many topics get censored and locked down on these boards.

Delvianna said:

That in itself has more implications.
1) Women are excluded from being first fruits
2) It excludes married men
3) It insinuates sex with women (even in marriage) is defilement and we know that's not the case because God created sex and literally gave the command TO multiply.
This could be taken symbolically since religion is sometimes depicted as a woman. So essentially, defiled with false religion.

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It's one of those verses that only make sense to those it is written for.

Re-reading the verse in an inclusionary light would invoke one of the curses at the end of the book, so I wouldn't recommend it.

Delvianna said:

What do you mean manifestation?

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The new testament fulfills what the old testament proclaimed. Manifestation meaning the new testament fulfillment of the old concept.

The old testament was a shadow of the things to come, the body casting said shadow is the manifestation. Much like how the elements of the temple all pointed to Christ.

Jesus’ Treatment of Women

As far as I know, from what I read in the New Testament, Jesus always treated women with high honor and respect. He never talked down to a woman or treated any woman as though she was less valuable than a man, with maybe one exception.

As recorded in Matthew 15:21-28, it appears that Jesus’ seemingly harsh words to a Gentile woman were not meant in unkindness, but that they were meant to test her faith, and to lead her to stand up for what she believed, too. And then he honored her for her faith, which he said was “great faith.”

And when other men took advantage of women, for evil purposes, or when they mocked or criticized them, Jesus stood up for the women, and he protected them. And he cared about their needs, and he ministered to them, and he honored their faith. And, if he did rebuke them, he was loving and gentle in his rebuke. He was always tender with them, compassionate and loving. And he used women to share the gospel with men, too.

[John 8:1-11; Luke 7:36-50; Matthew 26:6-13; Mark 5:25-34; Luke 10:38-42; John 2:1-11; John 4:1-42; John 20:11-18.]

In fact, In Luke 7 we read that a Pharisee invited Jesus to eat with him at his house. When a woman who had a reputation heard he was there, she came there and she anointed his feet with ointment, and wet them with her tears, and wiped them with her hair, and caressed them with her kisses.

When the Pharisee disapproved of the woman, Jesus rebuked him. But what he said to the Pharisee was for the encouragement of the woman, as well. For, what Jesus said to the Pharisee is that everything that he should have done for Jesus, but did not do, the woman did do. For, he said, “she loved much.” And, he said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.”

And we read in Luke 8:1-3 that some women even traveled with Jesus and the disciples, too, and that they helped provide for Jesus’ and the disciples’ needs out of their own means.

I am assuming that the women made things which they sold for money, and that out of their earnings that they helped provide for Jesus and his disciples in the work of the ministry. So, they were co-laborers with Jesus and with his twelve male disciples in the ministry.

Your Daughters Shall Prophesy

And, when the Scriptures teach on the gifts of the Spirit, they do not differentiate between men and women, i.e. that some gifts are not for women. In fact, in Acts 2:17-18 we read:


So, why is it then that we have these teachings in the New Testament that sound as though women are to always remain silent, that they are not to speak in the gatherings of the church, without exception? (1 Corinthians 14:34-35; 1 Timothy 2:11-12). Doesn’t that seem contradictory to how Jesus treated women? And isn’t it contradictory to the passage in Acts 2, and to other New Testament scriptures that speak of women prophesying?

And why is it that so many church congregations, at least here in America, do not allow their women to prophecy (preach) in their gatherings? And some pastors treat women as though they are dirt under their feet for them to walk on? For, Jesus never treated a woman like that. He valued women, and he used women in ministry, and he even sent women out to share the gospel with men. And the Holy Spirit of God gifted women to prophesy. So, why would God then turn around and put the smack down on women?

And, why, then would the Scriptures talk about how we are all one body in Christ, and that we are all necessary, and that one part should not say to another, “We have no need of you!”? And why would it teach that the body grows and builds itself up in love and in the faith as “each part” does its work? And then tell our women that their part, which God gave to them, and for which he gifted them, is not permitted? Is the church then not suppressing the gifts of women?

How can we resolve these seeming contradictions? Is it possible that these passages on the silence of women in the church can have another plausible explanation other than the complete and total suppression of the gift of prophecy among the women in the church? And, if so, what might that be?

For, women obviously prophesied in New Testament times (See: Luke 2:36; Acts 2:17; Acts 21:9; 1 Corinthians 11:5). So, how are we to understand this restriction of the silence of women in the church if God poured out his Spirit on both men and women so that they could prophesy, and we have recorded in the New Testament that there were indeed women who did prophesy? What is the context? What is the purpose of the restriction?

The Context Reveals

Well, the context of 1 Corinthians 14 is that of teaching on spiritual gifts, teaching on love, and instructions regarding the misuse of the gifts and the right way in which the gifts are to be used, and regarding their purpose, too. So, this is in the context of 1 Corinthians 12 and 13, also.

And it is in 1 Corinthians 12 where we are taught that each body part is necessary, and that we are not to say to another part of the body that we have no need of him or of her. And it is God who decides who gets what part, too. And it is the Holy Spirit who assigns the gifts.

And, here in 1 Corinthians 14 we are told first off to pursue love, and to earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that we would prophesy. And the one who prophesies speaks to people for their upbuilding, consolation and encouragement. The one who prophesies edifies other believers, for the spiritual growth and advancement of them in the faith. He or she inspires, cheers, urges, nurtures, promotes and fosters spiritual maturity and holy walks in the Spirit of God, too, which is consistent with Ephesians 4:15-16.

So, if both women and men are gifted with the gift of prophecy, and we women are to use the gifts of the Spirit given to us for the upbuilding and the encouragement of the body of Christ, his church; and if not one of us is to say to another “We have no need of you,” and if all the parts are necessary, and women did prophesy in the New Testament, and the body of Christ is built up in the faith as “each part” does its work, then we have to conclude that these instructions on the silencing of women have a meaning other than the absolute silence of women in the church.

Order and Submission

So, again, let’s look at the context. The context has to do with how gifts are used, and it has to do with the order in which they are used. And, then let’s look at the wording of the passage, too. For, it all comes down to submission. It says that a woman, if she has questions regarding something she wants to learn, that she should ask her husband at home. So, apparently women were interrupting the order of service to ask questions. And some of this is definitely cultural to that day and time.

It also appears, by the context, that these women were usurping authority over the men, for it clearly instructs them that they are to be in submission to their husbands, and to the leadership of the church, and it indicates that they were stepping out of that order by speaking in the church gatherings in a disruptive way. So, these women were out of order in what they were doing.

And the passage in 1 Timothy 2 supports this, that women are not to usurp authority over the men, and that they are not to instruct men in an authoritative manner which would require men to obey them.

So, in conclusion, I believe God has gifted both men and women in various ways, and that Scripturally both men and women are gifted with the gift of prophecy (preaching), which is for the edification and encouragement of the body of Christ and for their strengthening and nurturing of them in the faith, that they may all reach maturity in Christ Jesus, their Lord.

I believe Jesus values women highly, that he gifts them in ministry, and that he calls them to prophesy (preach) the truths of Scriptures so that the body of Christ might be drawn closer to their Lord in walks of faith, and so that they may not wander off from the faith to go after what is false. I also believe that our Lord uses women sometimes in areas usually assigned to men, but that he does so when so many men are spiritually AWOL, and they are neglecting their callings (See Luke 7:36-50 as illustrative of this).

Lastly, I believe it all comes down to submission to the authorities within the church. If women are given permission to speak, and it is done in proper order, and if it is done in the right way, for the upbuilding of the body of Christ, then they should be allowed to speak. But they are not to usurp authority over the men nor to cause a disturbance in the congregation, and they are not to instruct men in the sense of being over men in authority. But they are to remain in submission and in proper order, and then they can speak as they are called upon to speak, as God gifts them to speak.

[Acts 2:14-18,42-47; Romans 12:1-8; 1 Corinthians 12:1-31; 1 Corinthians 14:1-5; Galatians 6:1; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:1-16; Ephesians 5:15-21; Ephesians 6:10-20; Philippians 2:1-8; Colossians 3:12-16; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:13; Hebrews 10:23-25; James 5:19-20]

Have Thine Own Way, Lord

Words by Adelaide A. Pollard, 1907
Music by George C. Stebbins, 1907

Have Thine own way, Lord! Have Thine own way!
Thou art the potter, I am the clay.
Mold me and make me after Thy will,
While I am waiting, yielded and still.

Have Thine own way, Lord! Have Thine own way!
Search me and try me, Master, today!
Whiter than snow, Lord, wash me just now,
As in Thy presence humbly I bow.

Have Thine own way, Lord! Have Thine own way!
Wounded and weary, help me I pray!
Power, all power, surely is Thine!
Touch me and heal me, Savior divine!

Have Thine own way, Lord! Have Thine own way!
Hold o'er my being absolute sway.
Fill with Thy Spirit till all shall see
Christ only, always, living in me!

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essentialsaltes said:

As long as it's on your own time and doesn't interfere with your work (like supplying marriage licenses) of course.

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Okay, I can get on board with that. If a cop says nasty things about gay people but treats them okay at work that would be fine.

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:

It's nonsense. Trump wants that country oil. Trump pretended, that country was so bad about Christians . When other countries are worse. So Christians would be okay, with the Trump's abuse , over this country.

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If Trump cared so much about the Christians in Nigeria that he'd spill American blood for them, then he should grant them asylum in the US.

Currently, the situation in Nigeria is like: Imagine if the Civil War had not been fought and we still had slavery in the south, no slavery in the north, and the border states like Missouri and Tennessee had sporadic fighting between the two sides.

That's what's going on in Nigeria between the Muslim states in the north, the Christian states in the south, and mixed states in the middle.

The only way the US can deal with that militarily is to put American troops in the middle...prepare for that situation to last a generation until the US decides it's dragged on long enough and withdraw.

But Trump doesn't really intend that. He's going to bully Nigeria for a better oil contract, and in the meantime look to his base like he's doing something significant for Christians "somewhere."

Maria Billingsley said:

The new Mayor of New York City, Zohran Mamdani, is a Democrat who won on a progressive platform focused on making the city more affordable. Hamas is a designated foreign terrorist group, not a political party that runs in American elections. Your statement is wildly inaccurate and basically political fear-mongering used to attack a candidate who is outspokenly pro-Palestinian.

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Mamdani is a Democratic Socialist (similar to Bernie Sanders), not an actual member of the Democratic Party.

Part of the reason Democratic Socialists have bene gaining ground is the legacy of neoliberals being in the establishment in the Democratic Party for some time (Clinton normalized Democrats support for neoliberalism). Ezra Klein recently tried to rehabilitate neoliberalism, but most voters in the US increasingly find neoliberalism uninspiring.