Cheeseburgers have a nice tang.

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timothyu said:

Understood. We sometimes assume things are not what they are.

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The Devil loves it when we assume things are neutral when they're not.

essentialsaltes said:

‘She’s Trying to Take Down Trump’: Laura Loomer Slams ‘Despicable Traitor’ MTG for Joining Epstein Files Push​

Far-right provocateur Laura Loomer is going scorched earth on Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), accusing the congresswoman of betraying Donald Trump by joining a bipartisan push to unseal the long-buried files of Jeffrey Epstein

“There’s become two Americas,” Greene said during the press conference. “There’s the America for the rich and the powerful and the elite—where they never face any struggles or problems… And then there’s forgotten America that faces all the problems and deals with all the issues and never gets justice for being sexually assaulted and raped by a monster.”

“This isn’t one political party or the other,” she added. “It’s a culmination of everyone [who] worked together to silence these women and protect Jeffrey Epstein and his cabal.”

Greene later revealed on Real America’s Voice that she had received “a lot of pushback” from Trump’s orbit for supporting the petition—but stopped short of blaming Trump himself.

Will the true protectors of Donald Trump please stand up? Is it the group trying to hide the files or the group trying to expose the files?

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Isn't this admitting that Trump will be damaged by the release of the files?

stevevw said:

Who ever has to mention him every day and be completely consumed with him lol.

Are you kidding. The ABC is like the BBC lol. I would not trust them at all. Another State controlled media who push a partisan narrative.

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The statue was real, and not reported only by ABC.

Both.

Adidas or Nike?

Spiritual Jew said:

@Douggg doesn't seem to understand that you do believe that works are required for salvation in what you call "the gospel of the kingdom" that you think is only for the Jews. Can you explain your belief in two gospels to him so that he doesn't waste his time trying to defend you just because he doesn't understand what you believe?

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I guess you won't agree, even when I point out the logical form of your reasoning, that you are saying works are necessary for salvation?

What does pluralist religious education look like. Is it learn prayer and hymes one week, Islam the following week and satanism the week after. To ensure all beliefs are covered and kids have a balanced view.

What about secular religion being pushed in State schools. How come that is never a problem. Kids come home speaking about how they learnt about race, LGBTIQ+ sex and that little boys can become girls. How come this religion is given priority over others lol. Heck some schools don't even tell the parents how they are brain washing their kids.

rambot said:

All kinds of interesting things were made known.

Like how many big MAGA infleuncers are not even in America.

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Who are they?

Oompa Loompa said:

January 22, 2025 is now current events?

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I am not posting this in News and Events. I am posting it in American Politics.

ChubbyCherub said:

I appreciate all men are not like this, but many are, and I cannot and will not indiscriminately agree to uphold men's leadership/authority without question and standards

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We don’t have to uphold a man’s authority we are not married to, however, we do have to uphold our husband’s authority based on God’s design. It took me a long time to see that a husband’s position is recognized by God even if that husband is abusive. We don’t have to stay in the abuse; we are allowed to separate ourselves. Sometimes this is not possibly, however, God recognizes the abuse, and when the wife humbles herself to God and ask for help, God removes that man - sometimes to the detriment of the man to break the authority - God takes the man from this life.

But if the woman is not humble, she cannot have the peace she seeks, because God’s law dictates a woman is subject to the man - only a humble and meek heart brings down swift help from God. That’s just how it is.

Jude gives an example of positions and how they are to be honored and respected even if the individual is wicked,
Jude 1:9 KJV
Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

God originally gave Satan a position of honor that the other angels recognized - they would not disrespect Satan because he’s evil, because of the position and honor God gave to him, although he will be punished in the end.

ChubbyCherub said:

I also appreciate that some may view this as unbiblical but, as I stated, if Jesus came down and sat in front of me, I'd explain my position with an open heart and I believe He would understand my point of view comes from a pure place rather than a challenge to His authority and word

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No He will not. He requires obedience and honor and respect and a humble spirit. We should not condemn ourselves believing we can ignore what He has put in place because how we feel. Of course He understands how we feel, but God says I change not. So in order for God to remove the authority the man has over the woman, the woman must recognize the authority and humble herself and ask God for help. Then God will help swiftly. But if we ask out of pride and out of our selfishness, our feelings, we will not be helped.

That’s the lesson to learn - humility is the answer!

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Studyman said:

It doesn't exist in Scriptures, at least I can't find evidence that it does. I could be wrong. It is, in my view, a "Judgment" that men, "who profess to know God", have placed on His Commandments and Judgments, that has been adopted by many. For me personally, I don't believe I, or any man, is qualified to judge God or His Commandments as being "moral or immoral". But that is the minority view on this topic, when compared to the philosophies of the religions of this world God placed me in.

According to God's Inspired Word, His judgments, commandments and Laws were given for the well being of those who turn to Him for "for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."

This would most certainly include the 10 commandments in my view.

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ceremonial, sacrificial, civil, moral, etc... these are all post-biblical labels applied to law. they don't demand the law is cut up and sectioned off this way only that they can be useful for theological applications. With the case of "moral" this is a qualitative judgment, but it's not that helpful because in order to apply it uniquely to the 10 we have to redefine what moral means. Since there are moral laws both inside the 10 and outside and there are aspects of the 10 that are not based on moral action, then "moral" is only being used as a replacement for the 10 commandments but since it uses the word "moral," it creates a bias carrying a suggestion that qualitatively speaking it rises above the other laws.

A title that's more useful that isolates the 10 is calling them polemic pillar laws in their role of contrasting surrounding ANE (ancient near east) values. They don't alone accomplish this and the whole law shares that role too, but they do stand as a poster of contrast, quickly establishing value systems that are very different in terms of its monothesisic values (commandments 1-3) values of civil order that extend to moral action (5-10) and with th 4th how they value 7th day practice which was already a pre-existing value system prevelient in ANE cultures. The 10 takes the 7th-day system that would have had mass pagan association, redeeming by pointing it to worship/practice to a monotheistic God as well as lacing it with a redemptive story.

"moral" is too loaded of term and pits the 10 against the other laws which was never the purpose. The 10 do not act alone from the covenant they are created in, they are called tablets of covenant law, but even before Moses climbed the mountain to get the tablets the commandments were already communicated to the Israelites, along with a host of other laws. The 10 are first brought up in Ex 20 and Moses climbs the mountain in Ex 24. Those 4 chapters in between all address laws that stand together with the 10, not separate to them and a part of the covenant relationship that was formed that Israel committed to... all before the tablets were made.

We completely miss the point when we extract the 10 outside of its context and force them to work as some sort of universal moral code, for one they don't work this way. I may avoid killing my neighbour, stealing from him, lying to him or sleeping with his wife, (those are actually pretty easy to do) but I may also hate him and avoid him at all costs. If I see he has fallen, cross the street and ignore him. This all would keep the 10, but grossly misses the point. For example, Ex 23:4 "If you come across your enemy’s ox or donkey wandering off, be sure to return it." this is not a requirement of the 10 commandments, yet it is presented alongside of them and should not be regarded as separate to them. So, sure we include this as well.... it also presents laws on how we keep slaves, do we include that as well? The point is we can't cut and paste law and pick what we think is better than another. It's a package deal and is designed to work together, and it all points to Christ (including the slavary parts)

I still see a video for a different song.

Venables said:

We haven't been to Mykonos but we were on Lefkada earlier this year, it's one of the mid-sized Greek islands off to the west, Ionian Sea I believe. It was an majestic experience, particularly for mission groups. A sizeable number of beautiful and inspirational churches and deep tradition. I'm having one of those days and can't quite recall the name, but there was one church in the particular that was extraordinary and stayed with us. From the Byzantine architects, a redoubtable design and beautiful frescoes within it. Reminded us of some of the churches on the French Mediterranean coast. Even without the icons, but the architecture on the coast seems it was similarly inspired.

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Greetings Venables,
Yes we have heard of Lefkada in one of our Mediterranean-focused ministry teams. It is indeed on the Ionian Sea, and quite majestic by any measure. I believe I have even also encountered the historic church you are recalling. Amusingly I too am blanking on the name and more specifics, but the son of one of our missionaries was already masterful with a camera, and took a number of pictures of a church on the island.

With, I believe many a beautiful fresco and icon on the interior. It is as though the church's founders were taking their own versions of photographs centuries ago, sending them down to us to marvel at. You have in fact inspired me to get back in touch with them! From our initial teams gathered from our original church networks back in the US, we tend to form somewhat improvised small mission teams that then fan out across Europe. The one drawback being it's often easy to lose touch when focused elsewhere, as we are in France and Germany like many other teams. But the pictures of that marvellous old church on Lefkada are gradually stirring up a bit more in my mind. All the more reason to re-establish some contact.

Akita Suggagaki said:

If you allow this you can actually deepen and purify your faith though it may change as well.

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That is why God says to continually seek Him. The institutions are not too keen on this, as they like to keep people corralled without themselves having to move on, halting all progress, theirs and the masses..

rambot said:

A quote from Chuck

So help me understand how and WHY empathy is bad.

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Well what more does he say about it?

I don't remember Casey Casem, but I do remember Wolfman Jack.

Zceptre said:

So more so the method of operation that is in question I guess you are alluding to here.

Maybe something along this approach:

2 Corinthians 5:18-19 (NIV)
All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation:
that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation.

Instead of bashing them over the head with Hell and damnation.

I think I'd have to agree some of the street preaching I've seen leaves a bitter taste more so by the delivery of the message in not being in line with this passage and Christ's approach. I think the God who is love is understated (1 John 4:8) and while there is a place to tell people to repent I think it is often emphasized too heavily, more so than Christ did even though He did do so (Luke 13:3).

I know for me personally, damnation and condemnation never made me love God more nor pulled me away from sins as a youth, but realizing how loved I am by God worked wonders in my life. (Romans 2:4)

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I think even the parables were relating peoples lives at the time to the Kingdom of God. Something along those lines with a modern version. Or whatever it is that connects peoples real experiences with offering a new way beyond what the world offers.

It has to sound like its Good News or a reveelation or something people are seeking. That spaaarks their interests even without mentioning God or the bible in direct ways. Christ was good at it.

But I also think there are times when no matter what you say it provokes a reaction because it is the truth. Its actually exposing the deciet and liars and they become threatened.

Paul we bashed several times for simply sticking to the gospel. It was those who were religious but used it like politics.

Its interest as with Christ and Paul and others they accused them of blasphamy. Of defying or breaching the religious code that the powerful were using to control.

I think this is similar to how today where Christians are shamed or made out to be hateful and harming others for holding a belief that is percieved to break the codes and practices of secular ideologies in the same way the Pharisees called Christians blasphemers for breaking the codes of the religiously powerful of that time.

peter2 said:

is it possible people loose something of their souls when attempting to secure their body's safety,

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Jesus says, "He who loves his life will lose it," in John 12:25.

And Jesus says not to worry about tomorrow, what we will wear and eat.

And Jesus does say >

"if you love those who love you, what reward have you?" (in Matthew 5:46)

So, yes . . . if ones mainly are concerned about their bodies and about ones who give them what they want . . . this can have them missing out on God's love in their souls. Because they are mainly concerned about their own lives and bodies and pleasures; and this keeps them from living in God's all-loving love which keeps our souls with God and is changing us into the image of Jesus so we are ready to spend eternity with Jesus and one another.