You agree that satan and his messengers are not in heaven, so there is or are reasons why satan is here and not in heaven.
The "location" of Satan is not really divulged to us. We can pretty much presume it to be in the unseen arena, of adverse spirits, whatever and wherever that is. And since these bad actors act up in people, we can presume we're part of their habitation, per Mark 4:15 and other scriptures such as Luke 11:24 showing the unclean spirit considers man "his house." And of course the myriad of scriptures that show us in the Gospels Jesus engaging Satan and devils in people. One of the most obvious showings in the Gospels.
It is very individualistic, I know I am heaven bound by having and keeping the indwelling Holy Spirit which is our guarantee for all God’s promises, but the Spirit in me as my personal guarantee is not to be a guarantee for you.
I believe that 1 John 4:7 is true for every person, myself included and that Jesus is the Savior of the world, per the scriptures. I believe He Gets The Job Done too. Most don't. Most think Jesus fails.
If we knew for certain some people who did go to hell, how would that help us?
Were there a single named example of such a thing I might buy into it, but there's not one single named person given as an example out of potentially multiple BILLIONS of examples. Not even one named person even threatened with such a fate.
Plus the situation is compounded with difficulty because, scripturally, people are not just people. It's people and the tempter working against all of us, from within.
So I believe Jesus could look any of us in the eye, sentence us to our face to hell and it would apply to the TEMPTER. And I would rejoice then to hear those Words knowing unto whom they are directed. Not run from them like most do.
Yes Jesus is the savior for everyone, but not everyone is willing and wanting to humbly accepts God’s pure charity as charity. It is a transaction with a choice and not some just bestowed upon you because you are human.
Aka Jesus as a failure and people as a failure as well. Not my idea of A Real Savior of the world. Your view makes God held hostage by man's decisions and then, by their failures to save themselves, God is forced into a corner and must burn them alive forever.
I just don't believe that's the case for multiple reasons. And I certainly don't believe God burns His Own children alive forever or eternally kills them. To me, that's out there. Demonic.
You are pulling all free will choices away from humans and making them only victims of life here on earth. We allow satan to come in and we are responsible for our own sins and the sin of allowing satan control.
What we find out while we are here on this earth for a short time is: who desires and is willing to humbly accept help and become a helper. That is the free will choice we are making.
I'll give you an example of one problem with so called "freewill." It DEMANDS that God is ruled OUT of mankinds will and it DEMANDS that Satan's will is ruled out as well so the MAN's bad/sinful decisions only rest on the man. And both of those attempts are simply a leap that doesn't exist in scripture. I'd dare call the claim essentially Godless.
I believe scriptures are quite clear that there are actually 3 wills going on with everyone and that neither the Will of God nor the will of Satan can be ruled out of the picture for anyone.
That makes freewill a very muddled claim, at best. It's mostly used to justify believers and condemn blinded captives of the devils, such as with Adam and Eve. I don't need to move that way, trusting in God in Christ for every person, as we should.and we can remain in condemnation of every devil in man simultaneously. It's an actual working Gospel that can be taken into real life daily.
The temper sins in tempting, while the individual sins by yielding to the temptation.
Yes we all sin, but that helps us to realize the help we need and the fact we cannot control ourselves by ourselves.
Well, at least you manage to get the other party on the table, and that alone makes yours a fuzzy picture of blame to man, knowing full well that sins are not counted against people, 2 Cor. 5:19. IF we really believe that there is only one party left on the table to count sins against and that is the devil and his own.
I do not see God excusing all the evil people do with: “The devil made them do it”.
I've never said God excuses any evil. He doesn't. Nor does God forgive sin. God does count sins against the devils.
Nor did the devil make anyone do it. The devil does it. Satan does what Satan does. Sins in people.
People love to blame someone else for their sins, so they will never have to humble themselves to the point of accepting pure undeserved charity, since they really deserved to be forgiven for their non-part.
If you do not accept being forgiven of an unbelievable huge debt created by your sins, than you will never obtain a huge unbelievable Love (Godly type Love). Luke 7
No matter how much we might try to hang our heads and repent, that never made anyone sinless.
We are undoubtedly commanded to love our neighbors as ourselves and we don't have to concede or accept anything devils do in people, starting with the LOG in our own eye on this matter.
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