HARK! said:

Proof?

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“The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, just as it is written in Isaiah the prophet: “Behold, I am sending My messenger before You, Who will prepare Your way; The voice of one calling out in the wilderness, ‘Prepare the way of the Lord, Make His paths straight!’ ””
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1‬:‭1‬-‭3‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

“And he will turn many of the sons of Israel back to the Lord their God. And it is he who will go as a forerunner before Him in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of fathers back to their children, and the disobedient to the attitude of the righteous, to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.””
‭‭Luke‬ ‭1‬:‭16‬-‭17‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

“In holiness and righteousness before Him all our days. “And you, child, also will be called the prophet of the Most High; For you will go on before the Lord to prepare His ways; To give His people the knowledge of salvation By the forgiveness of their sins,”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭1‬:‭75‬-‭77‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

“In holiness and righteousness before Him all our days. “And you, child, also will be called the prophet of the Most High; For you will go on before the Lord to prepare His ways; To give His people the knowledge of salvation By the forgiveness of their sins,”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭1‬:‭75‬-‭77‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

“John responded to them all, saying, “As for me, I baptize you with water; but He is coming who is mightier than I, and I am not fit to untie the straps of His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. His winnowing fork is in His hand to thoroughly clear His threshing floor, and to gather the wheat into His barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.””
‭‭Luke‬ ‭3‬:‭16‬-‭17‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

“Then Jesus *arrived from Galilee at the Jordan, coming to John to be baptized by him. But John tried to prevent Him, saying, “I have the need to be baptized by You, and yet You are coming to me?” But Jesus, answering, said to him, “Allow it at this time; for in this way it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.” Then he *allowed Him. After He was baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove and settling on Him, and behold, a voice from the heavens said, “This is My beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.””
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭3‬:‭13‬-‭17‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

John was the forerunner of the messiah.

HARK! said:

Wrong. We already covered this. Repeating it does not change the facts.

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Then prove it. I’ve given you the scriptures which you refuse to address. Here it is again. Israel rejected the messiah.

Since I posted a few verses about John the Baptist being the forerunner of the Messiah then the following verses are very appropriate.

“He came as a witness, to testify about the Light, so that all might believe through him. He was not the Light, but he came to testify about the Light. This was the true Light that, coming into the world, enlightens every person. He was in the world, and the world came into being through Him, and yet the world did not know Him. He came to His own, and His own people did not accept Him. But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name, who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of a man, but of God.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1‬:‭7‬-‭13‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

What do you think the above verses mean?

Ben 10

# 1 WHERE UPON. //. HOTHEN. is an ADVERB

# 2 NEITHER. //. OUDE. is also an. ADVERB

# 3. THE. // HO. is a DEFINITE ARTICLE. is a NOMINATIVE CASE. , in. the SIGNULAR

#4 FIRST //. PROTOS. in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SIGULAR

# 5. ( TESTAMENT ) DEDICATED. //. EGKAINIZO. in. the PERFECT TENSE , in. the INDICATIVE MOOD. , in. the SIGNULAR

# 6. WITH. OUT. // CHORIS. is an ADVERB

# 7. BLOOD. //. HAIMA. in. the GENITIVE CASE . in. the SIGNULAR. in the NEIUTER

#A. It means that the first covenant was only PERFOMED with an ANIMAL BLOOD on an ALTER. WITH A JEWISH PRIEST

# B This then from ABRAHAM. let's say. , about 2000 years ago that CHRIST BLOOD MEANT ANY THING . until TODAY

# C. And to. me it seem that THE OLD TESAMENT. and the GOSPELS is for ISRAEL !!

# D And Pauls letters says HOW a anyone can be saved TODAY until 1 Thess 4:13-17. when. the BODY of CHRIST is taken AWAY

# E. Only Christ s BLOOD can save. ANYONE. !!

TO be with CHRIST. !!

Check EX. 24:3-8. !!

dan p

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Guojing said:

You must provide the scripture which states that believing gentiles are the seed of Jacob.

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Israel is the spiritual name given to Jacob. We are true Israel today, not apostate Israel.

We see the international scope of the salvation plan in God’s promise to Jacob in Genesis 35:10-11: “And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel. And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins.”

After changing his natural name to a spiritual name, God immediately predicted that nations will be of Israel (gôy and qâhâl gôy). The Hebrew word qâhâl means assembly, company, congregation, multitude. This literal describes a nation (natural Israel) and a congregation of nations (spiritual Israel). Clearly, the integration of the Gentiles into Israel was God’s ultimate plan from the very beginning.

Isaiah 27:6 declares: “He shall cause them that come of Jacob to take root: Israel shall blossom and bud, and fill the face of the world with fruit.” According to Holy Writ, those who become part of Israel will assuredly take root. There is clearly a sense of enjoinment in this text. Israel would decisively expand her influence throughout the globe. She would likewise be fruitful. This is talking about a worldwide community of believers. Those who have received Christ have taken spiritual root and have consequently blossomed throughout the nations.

When you consider the meaning of the word “Israel” and how it ultimately finds its fulfillment in Jesus Christ, it forces us to ask, what people, then, today, could possibly meet the criteria and designation of true Israel? It has to be a spiritual people, because that is, ultimately, the core sense of the word. But it also must be a company that recognizes, identifies and embraces Christ (true Israel). That certainly isn’t natural Israel over this past 2000 years. It was them that rejected Him and nailed Him to a tree. What is more, this company is not limited to the Middle East but is rather expressly found throughout “the world” (Isaiah 27:6) and relates to “a company of nations” (Genesis 35:10-11).

True Israel today can only refer to God’s redeemed people (of all nations), the New Testament congregation. Only they can meet the description. They alone belong to Christ. Only they are His ambassadors on this earth. Only they enjoy favor with God and with man. Scripture proves that Gentile believers would be thoroughly blended into the harmonious whole of faithful Israel. This is supported many Old Testament prophecies that tells us that Israel will be enjoined by others and will incorporate the nations. This is talking about the full spiritual expanse of true Israel. If one is in Christ they belong to spiritual Israel.

Lord have mercy!

This is so bizarre!

Horrifying!

Michie said:

They should placing a warning on fairy tales then. That stuff was read before college and it intensifies as the student matures.. why single out the Bible? It really makes no sense when you look at the big picture.

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Yup. Not to mention many fairy tales, the original, are violent.

Dan Perez said:

And CONTEXT is NUMBER # 1 , YES !!

OR , CONTEXT does not MATTER is # 2. !!

Which is TRUE. ?? # 1 or #.2. !!

dan p

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He alone is truth.

He is Number One.

He can speak through a donkey.

Context would resist such a claim.

CoreyD said:

I thought they might help. I was wrong.
Each verse I gave you starts by saying it's now going to give the history. Followed by the history.

• Genesis 2:4 - The history of the heavens and the earth when they were created.
• Genesis 5:1 - This is the historical record of Adam's generations.
• Genesis 6:9 - This is the history of the generations of Noah.
• Genesis 10:1 - Now this is the history of the generations of the sons of Noah and of Shem, Ham, and Japheth
• Genesis 11:10 - This is the history of the generations of Shem.

No need to overthinking things, J.

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Yea sure.

So my thought was, Genesis 1 tells this aspect of history. And then chapter 2 continues that history. As opposed to retelling it. I'll go back and reread your post to see if I'm missing anything.

I agree that the YEC view of trees growing fast and the events of chapter 2 happening in a single day don't make any sense though.

The Liturgist said:

No, that would be one of mine - can you guess why? I’ve mentioned it in a few posts; its something of the signature breakthrough of my project.

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I've got you beat. I was born when the highest technology machine in a house was the television, with no remote control. You had to walk across the room to change the channel.

Hank77 said:

The price per oz. is the actual cost. I love unit pricing; it saves both time and money.

In both examples, the more processed foods cost less per oz.

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But barely...

Is someone really noticing a fraction of an ounce difference per serving?

RocksInMyHead said:

Good for you?

Would it make you happier if I called it hate speech instead of racism? 'Cuz we can go with that. "Zero to racism" just had a better ring to it than "Zero to hate speech".

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Islamic religious legislation has codes on what to do if a child bride's 3-hole is raped into a 1-hole. https://archive.ph/cMraI

What is you opinion on forcing this culture between the legs of the culture that ended the Holocaust and gave us Winnie-the-Pooh while they loudly scream no and try to get away?

The Liturgist said:

On the contrary, a Christological-prophetic interpretation of certain OT texts insulates us from heresy.

We know from Luke 24 that the Old Testament is entirely a prophecy of Christ - most forms of recent error stem from literal-historical readings of the Old Testament that do not directly relate to God’s economy of salvation through His incarnation in the person of the Son and Word, Christ our God.

Conversely, Nestorianism resulted from the coercive implementation in tne Patriarchate of Constantinople of the literal-historical exegesis of Theodore of Mopsuestia.

Of course, Theodore’s interpretation of Scripture, although literal, would come across as alien to modern ears.

I would note that the best Church Fathers used both literal and Christological-prophetic interpretations of the Old Testament, while leaning towards literalism in the New Testament.

Many of our worst modern errors come from non-literal allegorical eisegesis of New Testament pericopdes, for example, the use of Mark 7 contra 1 Corinthians 11:2 and 2 Thessalonians 2:15 to attack the tradition of the Catholic Church, the use of 2 Peter to attack the Epistles of St. Paul whenever one disagrees with them, the claim Christ our God was only allegorically speaking of His flesh and blood in the Institution Narrative in 2 Corinthians 11 and the Synoptics and John ch. 6 and the related claim that Baptism of the Spirit excludes baptism in water, the claim of credobaptists that statements of entire households being baptized were not literally true, and the claim of liberal Christians that St. Paul’s statements on sexual morality are not to be taken literally.

To my knowledge, only five denominational groups, plus isolated churches in other denominations, namely - the Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Roman Catholics, High Church / Anglo Catholic Anglicans of the Continuing Anglican / GAFCON / conservative alignment, and Confessional Lutherans of the Orthodox Evangelical Catholic alignment such as my friends @MarkRohfrietsch @ViaCrucis and @Ain't Zwinglian have managed to avoid these errors (partially in the case of Roman Catholics as there are liberals vying for control such as the German bishops).

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I agree, for the most part. Implemented correctly, the use of allegory can be highly beneficial. However, it is a very slippery slope for some and I have encountered many truly amazing allegorical interpretations of scripture which hardly align with orthodox teaching.

As for the Bavarian bishops, you probably know their history. Bavarian Catholicism has had a curious relationship with Rome for a very long time. When the unification of Germany was accomplished by Otto Von Bismarck, the Bavarian Catholics found themselves as relative aliens in a Lutheran and Reformed conglomerate. In any event, we shall see how Pope Leo relates to them. Hopefully, truth and peace will prevail.

RocksInMyHead said:

"Mortgage records" is a very broad term, and that article is exceedingly non-specific. The actual information that is recorded is the final mortgage contract and deed (I looked mine up - that's all that's there). It does not include the application(s) or any other ancillary forms submitted during the process. Considering that at least some of the claims made against James involved her applications, there was at least some non-public information in Pulte's hands.

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still waiting for proof that is came from Fannie Mae - the lender - or even proof she used fannie mae.

contratodo said:

I tell you plainly dear one, for the times are upon us, one day a person in that office will seam to die, and then..... An alien mother ship will come beam him up,

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Oh.

OK.

I have yet to figure out the obsession that so many Christians have with Spacemen and Flying Saucers. And the apparent compulsion so many seem to have to include those Spacemen and Flying Saucers in the Christian Faith.

rjs330 said:

....In banking, much like other businesses we have large conglomerates that have a lot of control. Big banking. We do not have as many locally run and funded banks as we used to. Banks that would know their customers and would help them out. Now, like so much huge banks control a lot of the findings and loans.

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That is capitalism right there. People seeking the means for the most aggressive wealth accumulation.

I'm all for private enterprise. But in the name of "free markets" so called conservatives have opened every possible door for unregulated consolidation AND for unregulated corporate and billionaire campaign funding. I do realize that other parties rarely say no when donors come knocking. But its the Rs and their partisan supreme court who insisted this should be the rules of the game.

Simple objective experiment. Ask these two questions of your Google AI

1. Did Protestant reformers use the historicist method of interpretation for the prophecies in the book of Daniel?
2. Using the historicist model, please interpret the 2300 day prophecy of Daniel 8

As for this thread title, ask Google AI this question

"Did rival popes refer to each other as antichrist before Martin Luther did?"

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Lord have mercy!

fhansen said:

Because of what He does for man. God doesn't need man to exist at all, but obviously wants him to exist, and loves him intensely. Salvation is all about meeting man's needs, to the glory of God.

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No because of what He did for God and His Glory

Praying for your intentions and your healing and peace.