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God, the Science, the Evidence: The Dawn of a Revolution

Darwin's great discovery was how it happens. Nothing in evolutionary theory is about "it just happened." It's a sad commentary on science education in the U.S. that so many people actually believe that story. Darwinian theory turns out to have useful applications in engineering, as engineers are now using evolutionary processes to solve problems that were not possible to solve using design. Turns out, God knew best.


It's directly observed today. It happened the way we see it happening now. God is a lot smarter and more powerful than most creationist think He is.

It's "interpretation" of things seen ...
Nope. Directly observed facts. We see evolution proceeding exactly as it always has. Perhaps you don't know what biological evolution is. What do you think it is?

God does state His creative power is seen and we are without excuse.
But YE creationists still attempt excuses.
While it (the theory) can describe what happens, the ultimate "why"—the origin of the chain of events or what drives the universe—is a question science cannot answer and may lie outside the realm of natural science.
Of course it does. You have that much right. Even Darwin just supposed that God created the first living things. Science is too weak a method to consider the supernatural. It can neither support nor deny God.
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Is Western society a mental-asylum?

Even with space-exploration now it`ll end one day anyways. They probably never find aliens ether, but that`s another story.

Of course not, since we live under a dome. I’m a firm believer that society should be governed by a genetically superior race of people, among whom God was born. As it was in the days of Ptolemaic cosmology.
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New Epstein emails appear to reveal more Trump ties

Acosta was a bipartisan, swamp holdover during the 2008 Epstein sweetheart plea deal. Trump has had a lot of conflicts with former officials and his relationship with Acosta was not personal although Trump considered Acosta as a competent labor seceretary.
A prosecutor who had saved his pedophile pal from serious consequences. It's notable that when the story became known, Trump tossed Acosta overboard. And of course, there's that birthday letter to Epstein that we can't post here. Trump is looking for the magic bullet that will end this slow train wreck, when the only thing that could (in principle) save him is to release all the unredacted files.

When the Miami Herald reignited public outrage in 2018 over Epstein’s plea deal, Bondi remained silent. She issued no public condemnation, launched no investigation, and maintained legal inaction despite growing evidence of systemic failure.

Then, unexpectedly, Bondi emerged on the national stage.

In 2020, she was appointed to President Trump’s impeachment defense team.


More rabbits will be pulled from the magic hat of course.
He's hoping. But so far, nothing has worked.
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Offer Up Your Heart To God

As God’s people, we were all given free will to choose if we are for or against Him. A common question I hear often is “I don’t see how a loving God could send someone to hell. Why would he want to punish one of his creatures for all eternity?” The simple answer is that God does not want us to go to hell. He “desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth” (1 Tim. 2:4). It’s our very own actions and decisions in our everyday life that cause a separation from God. Hell is not a punishment that God imposes, but rather a separation that has been willfully chosen by a human person.

An individual may choose to remain separate from God. If the individual chooses to remain separate from Him, God will not force a union upon them. But as long as we are alive, we can still choose to turn to the Lord.

There is no offense, however serious, that the Church cannot forgive. There is no one, however wicked and guilty, who may not confidently hope for forgiveness, provided his repentance is honest. Christ who died for all men desires that in his Church the gates of forgiveness should always be open to anyone who turns away from sin (CCC 982).

In order to turn away from sin, we must not only run to God, but we must also avoid anything that turns us away from Him. “If any one is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has passed away, behold, the new has come” (2 Corinthians 5:17). We must first acknowledge our attachment and desires for material things of this world. These material things do not last long and only distract us to what is important which is Jesus Christ. To detach yourself from the world, repeat this prayer to God:

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Did the early church worship on Sabbath?

There are instructions. But we should both see that in the new covenant we who are saved are not saved according to our following instructions. It is with repentant faith coming to Christ. God is gracious, but would lead us, and it is desirable that we grow more, which is with learning God's will and doing what is for us to do according to that. Admittedly there will always be more to learn, in this life. There is much for it. If we assume we know all of it we are not open in the way to grow anymore. There is less reason to be left remaining here, then.
That's cool :heart: May we all continue learning and growing ✝

Grace and peace to you, my man!
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Wes Huff Responds to Claim the Bible Was ‘Compiled Hundreds of Years’ After Jesus by a ‘Pagan Emperor for Political Reasons’

Step by step...

" the Bible was created hundreds of years after the time of Jesus “by a pagan emperor for political reasons.”"

True (as we know it) but only if one considers the emperor was unifying the empire after civil war and this religion was a tool in doing so. It had helped in his winning the war against the latin side of the empire by using crosses on armor to convince opposing soldiers, who were Christian, to surrender or switch sides, rather than fight their own..

“Jesus wasn’t a Christian. He was a Jew. And he didn’t come to create a religion.”

Fact.

" be honest with ourselves and start listening to the truth that is behind it,”

True

"Jesus’ priority was people’s hearts, not churches, denominations, or dogma."

True. It is man that likes to institutionalize everything. Jesus' 'church' was built upon the rock solid foundation of God's truths, not man's.

“deeply flawed men, written, rewritten, translated, re-translated, filtered through kings, priests and politicians.”

As scholars and the oldest texts, the Dead sea scrolls, have shown

“argued over by 45,000 different Christian denominations who all swear they’re the ones who are right for 2,000 years"

Undeniable

“Kids do not need theological degrees. They need simple truth.”
“The gospel that Jesus taught is not about control; it’s about freedom,”


See Jesus' mention of children and His feud with the Sanhedrin. One suggests simple truth and the other calling out human government and control as humans use God for their own purposes.

"Dr. Eric Mason, founder and senior pastor of Epiphany Fellowship in Philadelphia, commented on Allred’s post, “I cannot even believe he made all of these fallacious [claims,] say the Bible was written by Constantine.”

That was never said that I can see. Is this then false witness? For what purpose?

"Jesus was indeed a Jew, Huff acknowledged, and Jesus was not a Christian because Christians did not exist yet. They derived their name from Jesus. And it is true he did not come to start a religion. “He came to fulfill that which was prophesied about him already,” said Huff."

Agreed

“Those first Christians were Jews who believed in Jesus as the Messiah........... they didn’t cease to become Jews. They weren’t converting to a new religion.”

Exactly, but they were indeed what would be the first of the new movement which would eventually be called Christian.

" Because they were and already had been considered authoritative Scripture for centuries.”

Some, not all. The idea was to weed out what did not fit, especially with Hellenistic thinking, in order to unify what would become a controlling governmental religion within the empire, dictating authourity over the rebellious factions of the religion to eliminate dissent, and later filtering out the Jew..

"he said that no one would live by bread alone but by every word that comes from the mouth of God,” said Huff. "

Huff tries to take scripture that refers to the OT and apply it to the NT. Misappropriated.

"Huff encouraged his viewers to take Allred’s advice to listen for the truth and to do their own research."

True.

“voted on by bishops under a pagan emperor,” “didn’t even exist in [Jesus’] lifetime,” and “is not God.”

True but not only was the compilation eventually used as a unifying tool within the empire's religion but also became our prime source of the Will of the Father and the story of His struggle with adversity in both us and elohim. It can be used for both good and evil purposes

"and he strongly suggested that knowledge and education were antithetical to truly knowing God."

Yes, if it means having to adhere to strict doctrinal shackles of man, rather than the freedom to continually seek God as we are commanded to do. There is no final say by an institution as they insist. Salvation is a personal goal, not to be guided by a human agenda rather than the Kingdom which they rejected in the Empire's time.

"Any time you question the authority, the first people to rush to its defense are the ones who treat their degrees like divine credentials,” said Allred, “as if God speaks louder to men with titles than men without.”

Such has always been the way of man, especially those who seek power. Every governing body of man seeks the same while the Kingdom of God is the opposite. Is it any wonder that the more man learns to think for themselves that authourity increases surveillance. Today is a prime example of power fearing for itself. Its time is coming to an end as the will of God will replace the selfishness of mankind.

“Theological certainty is spiritual death. And it was those who claimed to know God and speak for God, who ultimately crucified God’s son."

Absolutely, or Jesus wouldn't have said to continually seek God. He wouldn't have disputed the clergy. He wouldn't have said God's Will be done, not man's. And yes they did crucify Him just as they have always destroyed that which offends their notion of authourity or credibility.

As for the people's comments mentioned, God has always had to face opposition by those who would rather defend the world and the authourity and institutions of man over God's simple truth. A team mentality when it comes to denominations proves that. Worldly is as worldly does and will always defend self before the will of God..

But the bottom line is both of these people are distracting us, as did the church and all politics since, from the real message of God's Will overcoming the will of both man and elohim. Jesus accomplished as a servant to God what the House of Israel failed to do when they were given the chance to serve the Father. Mission was accomplished and it is senseless to focus on human discrepancies rather than promote what was accomplished. I am sure the Adversary would prefer to keep quiet its failure and seek to control the narrative by promoting argument over human political history, drawing us back into the world. The good news (gospel), first and foremost, is that the Kingdom overcame the elohim controlled nations of man and adversity to the Father. It precedes all other gospels. It was His intent.
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Fellowship Holy Spirit, Holy Ghost

November 19 2025 Acts 16:1-5,8-15 KJV


My Reverence of God Introduction My Interpetation: I Reverence the only God, word, voice- only seed of God ,fruit with submission, faith and promise. VV 8-12 My Interpetation I Reverence God that's allows me alwaysto be on time and my word I ask To be bade in Holy Ghost giving me a word to be done for me and prospering, also Christian Church-Community ,making you want to listen and obey.

Will the world end one day?

I am learning more about the Bible.

What happens in the future? Where there be an eternity of people being on Earth then dying later to be judged or will there come a point where there is no longer a need to judge and either people are in heaven or hell. And there are no more people left for God to judge?

If that is the case, what happens next? Is it possible for another rebellion to occur and people get kicked out of heaven? Remember the angels rebelled from the very beginning.
Judgement takes place in heaven ... the records of all peoples lives are stored there .... when Jesus returns all judgement for all time has taken place and the 1st resurrection (of the saved) occurs ... those are taken to heaven for 1,000 years and afterwards the 2nd resurrection (of the lost) takes place (of the condemned)

Hell is the grave .... there is no "burning place" for eternity. The masses are dormant in the grave until resurrected.

What caused the rebellion in the first place? .... believing lies ... in heaven we will know the complete truth and also there will be no temptation because satan is destroyed.

James 1:14-15 describes how temptation arises from within an individual, not from God. It states that each person is tempted when they are "dragged away by their own evil desire" and lured in by their own cravings. Once this desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin, and the result of sin is death.
  • Origin of temptation: Temptation does not come from God but from our own sinful desires.
  • The process: These desires "drag you away" and "entice you".
  • The outcome: When these desires are fulfilled, they lead to sin, and the consequence of sin is spiritual death.
Satan, described as "prowling around like a roaring lion seeking someone to devour" (1 Peter 5:8), is a key instigator of temptation. He tempts us by twisting God's gifts and using our free will to try and lead us astray.

There won't be any temptation in heaven (satan destroyed) and we will know the complete truth and therefore sin will never rise again.
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Hundreds of Korean workers detained in Georgia to file lawsuit against ICE

"Some that illegally crossed the border into the United States, some that came in through visa waiver and were prohibited from working, some that had visas and overstayed their visas." link

Out of the 330 people detained, 316 South Koreans have been deported, the rest were Chinese, Japanese and Indonesian. link

Sounds like illegals and people who broke the law to me. If you break your visa agreement, the US has the right to deport you.
The people suing were there on proper visas.
And part of the problem with the other visas is a fewfold. The Trump admin was insisting that the work on the factory be finished by the end of the year, so workers were needed on a quick schedule to accomplish that. Problem with that was, the time it takes for the states to process visa applications is long for the type they'd need and previously, for these sort of cases, the US government had allowed other types of visas be used, even if they didn't allow work by letter, because it was deemed necessary to get the people in. So there's been an understanding between companies and the state that this is ok in these cases.
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This is how it is for me.

What about what the gospel says (the gospel of Christ, 2 Corinthians 4:4 KJV), that is the power of God unto salvation? Romans 1:16 KJV

What about those who say they believe, but are without the Spirit of Christ? Romans 8:9 KJV

What about those who say they believe, but Jesus told them He never knew them? Matthew 7:23 KJV

It’s the same as preachers telling their congregation that all we need is a little faith like the mustered seed when the mustered didn’t have little faith, it had great faith.

Faith as a mustered seed is not speaking about the size of the mustered seed? It’s speaking about the capacity of the mustered seed’s faith. A tiny seed being planted in the ground had the capacity to flourish into a great magnificent tree. Great faith!

To prove we must have great faith!
1) When walking on water, Jesus said to Peter, oh ye of little faith! If little faith was ok to have, why did Jesus addressed Peter’s little faith as the reason he fell in the water.
2) when the disciples could not cast out an evil spirit, Jesus was annoyed with them and said they could not do it because of their little faith. If little faith was enough, why could they not accomplish casting out the evil spirit.

The capacity for great faith does not exist in us! This type of faith is bestowed on us by God’s Spirit through Christ Jesus, as we digest the gospel of Christ - eat His words - Jesus told the disciples my words are Spirit…

My main issue is sometimes we say things about salvation that does not address the true requirements for salvation. It is not enough to say we believe in Jesus; there is much, much more that secures our salvation, and it is following the exact truth of the gospel of Christ, the power of the gospel, that is the power of God unto salvation. Leaving out the requirements of the gospel, we cannot obtain salvation.

We must look to experience. That is the only way we know we have been given the Holy Spirit - the Spirit bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, Romans 8:16 KJV - this is an actual experience

We sit in heavenly places in Christ Jesus - this is an actual experience through the power of the Spirit Who raises our consciousness to where we are placed in another dimension- from putting off the flesh, the old man, to walking in the new man in Christ Jesus.

It’s not enough to say we believe, we must be conformed into the image of Christ - the power of the gospel manifests these realities in our life, by God’s Spirit.

The same Spirit that raised Christ from the dead must be in us in order for us to be raised at Christ’s return. Through the Spirit we must please the Husbandman Who desires the first fruits - That is, we must produce fruit - the Fruit of the Spirit, bestowed upon us by the Spirit through many trials - the furnace of affliction.
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Well what about you not adding into accounts in The Bible parts that are not actually there. As an example, take you saying the people in Matthew 7:23 had believed in Jesus for eternal life. When there is not a singe sentence saying these people had believed in Jesus for eternal life. The only thing the verses say is they did thing in the name of Jesus and that is not the same as believing in The Name of Jesus for eternal life.

“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’



An example of a contemporary day Matthew 7, would be people who say they went to church in the name of Jesus, or were baptized in the name of Jesus, or repented of their sins in the name of Jesus, etc.... But never actually did believe in the person Jesus, for Eternal Life.
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Eve and the Fallacy of Moral Choices

God Himself bound everyone to disobedience, Romans 11:32

Adam and Eve were no exceptions

Jesus even shiws us HOW it happens in Mark 4:15

Uh yeah, only if you completely eliminate the tempter within them from the equations. Which of course is illegitimate sight. All have sin. Sin is of the DEVIL

You just forgot

God clearly said the serpent did it. Did you miss that detail?

There was no choice involved.

God always meant for there to be a first natural person and THEN a second person made a spirit. 1 Cor. 15:42-56

First the natural, and after, the spiritual

That's His Program. No choice of our required
Thanks for sharing but I do not hold to all the teachings from Augustine or Calvin.
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Democrats finally vote to open Government

Simple yes or no question. Regardless of potential consequences, did they have the power to modify the requirements for cloture and approve this bill with no cooperation from the Democrats?

You right here are admitting they had the ability to address this.

The amendments made to the CR were made in the Senate. That means that the House will then need to pass it again.

If they had amended the bill, it would have been sent back to the House. The House that wasn't in session because Johnson had sent them home after passing the bill precisely to pressure the Democrats to approve the bill.
They're not going to approve a bill that has potential consequences. It would be incompetent to do so.

The amendment made in the Senate was not what Schumer's counter proposal was seeking. Read page 57 of the counter
proposal, which would've continued to fund everyone legal and illegal. The bill modification in the Senate only extended
the current healthcare bill. The House then approved it and sent it back to the Senate and then to Trump.

Schumer wanted to go back to spending $1.5 trillion which included illegal immigrants and as it was done
before Trump took office. Schumer faced criticism from the democrats when he voted for the resolution
back in March. This time he tried to appease them.

Even Senator John Fetterman (D) sided with the republicans and criticized the democrats for shutting down the government.
The democrats who negotiated with the republicans to reopen the government, blamed Schumer and the DNC for the
shutdown.

The healthcare solution is only kicking the can down the road. Insurance companies will merely raise their premiums
based on how much the government is willing to give them. The president and congress, democrats and republicans,
are going to have to get us away from the "for profit," healthcare system we currently have. A single-player universal
healthcare package will have to be put together, which will be run by a private company with government oversite.
Guess who opposed Hillarycare and put out propaganda against it? The health insurance companies.
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Anti-Muslim Bigotry Directed at Mamdani

“We the people have put our trust in the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump. He, and only he, can stop this horror

Sigh. From the article, "Notably, the office of the president does not have legal authority to directly remove a New York City mayor from office."

Used to be, people would only embarrass themselves in front of their families by making speeches at Thanksgiving dinner. Now they get to embarrass themselves in front of the whole world on the Internet.
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Trump’s Name Chanted in Israel AND Gaza After Peace Deal: ‘Nobel Prize to Trump!’

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""A report in The Lancet estimates that deep funding cuts to USAID could lead to more than 14 million additional deaths by 2030, with one-third being children, if the funding isn't restored. The cuts have already caused the immediate shutdown of essential programs, leading to a higher risk of diseases like cholera and a rise in under-five mortality rates in affected areas. As a result, some models already estimate that the dismantling of USAID has already caused 600,000 deaths, with two-thirds being children."

USAID cost the average US taxpayer $0.18 per day - Trump, with the support of Elon Musk and American Evangelicals, shut it down which has already resulted in the loss of an estimated 600,000 lives, 2/3 of them children!

How ironic that Donald Trump, a billionaire and Elon Musk, the wealthiest man in the world, were both instrumental in terminating USAID - which is credited with saving over 90 million lives of the world's most desperately poor, in the last 2 decades alone!

Trump and his MAGA supporters are now hoping that the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE COMMITTEE will be more impressed by his White House $300 million golden ballroom than the 14 million additional deaths by 2030 that USAID could have saved!

Trump is currently suing the Department of Justice for $230 million for what he considers politically motivated investigations - despite claims that the White House ballroom will be privately financed, what are the odds that it will be directly or indirectly "bankrolled" by the American taxpayer?

Whether Trump receives the Nobel Peace Prize or not, history will hold him and his supporters responsible for the millions of lives that USAID could have saved!

The White House golden ballroom, primarily built to impress the rich and powerful, will stand as a constant reminder that in "Trumpworld," extravagance took priority over lives - his campaign to receive the Nobel Peace Prize is intended to feed his insatiable personal ego, because in reality he has shown little concern for the lives and welfare of others!

FOOTNOTE: The Department of Justice is under no obligation to inform the American public as to whether President Trump's own loyal political appointees at DOJ followed his instructions and provided him with the $230 million!


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Stone, Manafort, Kushner Senior among the next round of pardonpalooza


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Trump commuted Eliyahu Weinstein's 24 year sentence in the Pardonpalooza at the end of Trump 1.0. After his release, he stole another $44 million from his suckers and has now received a brand new 37 year sentence.
As the kids say, "Game recognizes game",
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Suspect Arrested In Connection With Attack On Alina Habba After Intense Manhunt

OK, they were in no danger. Is that relevant? Have you been to a federal courthouse?
I've personally filed a lawsuit against a number of federal intelligence agencies, so I've spend some time in a federal courthouse. I've even been in a judge's chambers with a judge and numerous government attorneys. It seemed pretty secure, but someone with intent who doesn't care about sacrificing himself could be a real danger. People go in and out of locked doors, but a criminal could slip in. We saw weaknesses in security in regard to protecting President Trump.
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Bring Joy

On the Over-Seriousness of Today

The current age, with its technologies, its wars, its uncertainties and anxieties, is a gloomy and worried age. Rates of depression and anxiety have skyrocketed among younger generations and there is an ever-present burden upon everyone’s shoulders. The constant terrible photos and videos of the news cycle weigh upon our minds and hearts, as we are forced to hear about everything happening everywhere, all the time. Our phones and laptops keep us connected, even when we might desire to be left alone. This is, certainly, a very serious age: we take everything seriously. Our jobs, our families, our economy and political affiliations, and, most dangerously, our religion. It has become a Serious Matter to attend Church on Sundays, to receive the sacraments, to profess the Creed. Of course, the Faith should be celebrated and embraced with dignity, but one of the key words is that it should be “celebrated.” Our faith is not meant to only be a dour and depressing hour of our week, in which we all silently sit and wait for it to be over, our minds and hearts occupied with the myriad horrible things occurring around us.

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