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fhansen · 2025-07-18T18:51:32-0500

enoob57 said:
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I just thought everyone should see this ha ha… I rest my case… as you are without reason giving yes and no in the same instance… I really can’t reply to anything of this because it’s unreasonable!

God, in His wisdom, can reconcile the fact of His soveriegnty with the ability to make man a morally accountable being. So it's not either/or but both/and, with man's participation required. The church came to the understanding that God, existing in eternity and in His omniscience, knows our choices beforehand and uses them for His purposes, without predetermining them. He certainly predestines none to hell.

lifepsyop · 2025-07-18T18:48:31-0500

AaronClaricus said:
There's absolute dating and relative dating. Absolute dating is based on physics.

Okay, so you believe that with this methodology you are gaining absolute knowledge about the age of the Earth. Good for you! :oldthumbsup:

Tuur · 2025-07-18T18:35:14-0500

An AI story. Problem is, there are three different ways to do the first half, and I'm not happy with any of them.

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN · 2025-07-18T18:28:42-0500

Trump is trying to hard to get rid of any possible involvement in the Epstein client list. His supporters didn't see nothing wrong with his locker rome talk. They didn't care about all the women, that accused him sexually assault and the list can go on. Why would his supporters care if he slept with underage trafficking victims. Which I believe it's supposed be against the law in the United States. I'm sure we will lose a lot of respect the famous people involved. Or not be surprised. Trump seems to be making people, more curious about the Epstein client list.

Dan Perez · 2025-07-18T18:23:32-0500

keras said:
How anyone could believe such nonsense, is unfathomable.

Revelation 12:14 & 17 tell us exactly where Gods Christian peoples will be during the 42 month time of the 'beast' in world control.
The Christians who kept the Covenant with God, as per Daniel 11:32, will be kept safe on a distant earth location.

Those who do violate the Covenant*, will have to face persecution and possible/probable martyrdom. But it will be them who Jesus will bring back to life and who will reign with Him. Revelation 20:4-5 The two Witnesses, Rev 11:1-13, are included with these people.

*Those Christians who agreed to a peace treaty; Daniel 9:27, with the leader of the secular peoples, instead of trusting in the Lords protection.

And what you call nonsense is. written in 2 Thess 2;3 -4- 8.

dan p

Akita Suggagaki · 2025-07-18T18:18:43-0500

Gregory Thompson said:
Okay I think it's clearer in my mind now.

At first I thought it was about the trinity and the church. But that isn't it.

What I was reading was using the trinity as a reference to illustrate that all the Perfected personality traits of God are one in the same way the Trinity is one with no modalist or partialist language.

Quite often one would say, God is like this but saying He is like that is misguided though both characteristics are in the scripture and traditions of the church teachings.

Thanks for sharing, it was a good one to unpack.

I still am unpacking. But I see the reference to the Trinity as the same soert tof mystery.

RDKirk · 2025-07-18T18:08:13-0500

JimR-OCDS said:
No, Isreal is the state of Jewish people, a nation of Israel.

Politics are part of every situation, even social clubs,.

Not so Israel.

Israel existed as a nation even before they occupied the territory.

Israel existed as a nation even while they were in Babylonian captivity.

But Israel did not exist as a state during those times.

See the difference?

Belonging to Abba · 2025-07-18T17:50:37-0500

I have tried AppBlock described at the website appblock.app. I'm using it on Android, but I found a technical way to bypass it. AppBlock is for setting time limits on apps. Since I can bypass it, I wasn't able to limit my texting well, and sometimes I have been turning my phone's power off and putting it in my desk drawer to limit my time on it better. Someone told me that Google Family Link may be more difficult to bypass, so I am wanting to research it, but it may require buying a second Android device to manage the restrictions on my own smartphone.

Hentenza · 2025-07-18T17:49:55-0500

Fantine said:
I'm pretty sure the after 4 years of the 99% being left behind, the Left Behind policies of the far right, and their callous proponents, will be gone.

As an independent I would still vote against the far left policies and a weak DNC candidate.

BTW- you can reply to me I don’t bite.

Job 33:6 · 2025-07-18T17:37:11-0500

Amo2 said:
Yea, Genesis has 50 chapters, not one.

Gen 2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. 18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him...........................
21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. 24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Yup, and all that happens after chapter 1. That's chapter 2.

Amo2 said:
Did not Moses also write the above? Choosing to ignore it, does not make it go away.

Luk 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Wow, Jesus was the second man to be born? Oh wait, that's not about biology.

Amo2 said:
The bible does not support the idea that God created a human population from the beginning anywhere. It plainly states that He created the parents of humanity, intending that they be fruitful and multiply upon the earth.

Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

It doesn't say that God created "parents". It says "them". That's all.

Genesis 1:27 NIV
[27] So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

In Hebrew, Genesis 1:27 does use a singular masculine pronoun often translated as "him" (אוֹתוֹ, oto), but this does not refer to a single individual person named Adam. Instead, it refers back to the word אָדָם (adam), which means "man" or "humanity" in a general sense. The singular pronoun "him" is used because adam is grammatically masculine singular. However, the verse immediately clarifies that both male and female were created by using the plural pronoun "them" (אוֹתָם, otam), indicating that the image of God is shared by all humans, male and female, not just 1 single man. So, the "him" in the verse is not about one individual alone but refers to humanity as a whole.

Amo2 · 2025-07-18T17:24:42-0500

The persecution of Athanasius, and of so many respectable bishops, who suffered for the truth of their opinions, or at least for the integrity of their conscience, was a just subject of indignation and discontent to all Christians, except those who were blindly devoted to the Arian faction. The people regretted the loss of their faithful pastors, whose banishment was usually followed by the intrusion of a stranger into the episcopal chair; and loudly complained, that the right of election was violated, and that they were condemned to obey a mercenary usurper, whose person was unknown, and whose principles were suspected. The Catholics might prove to the world, that they were not involved in the guilt and heresy of their ecclesiastical governor, by publicly testifying their dissent, or by totally separating themselves from his communion. The first of these methods was invented at Antioch, and practised with such success, that it was soon diffused over the Christian world. The doxology or sacred hymn, which celebrates the glory of the Trinity, is susceptible of very nice, but material, inflections; and the substance of an orthodox, or an heretical, creed, may be expressed by the difference of a disjunctive, or a copulative, particle. Alternate responses, and a more regular psalmody, were introduced into the public service by Flavianus and Diodorus, two devout and active laymen, who were attached to the Nicene faith. Under their conduct a swarm of monks issued from the adjacent desert, bands of well-disciplined singers were stationed in the cathedral of Antioch, the Glory to the Father, And the Son, And the Holy Ghost, was triumphantly chanted by a full chorus of voices; and the Catholics insulted, by the purity of their doctrine, the Arian prelate, who had usurped the throne of the venerable Eustathius. The same zeal which inspired their songs prompted the more scrupulous members of the orthodox party to form separate assemblies, which were governed by the presbyters, till the death of their exiled bishop allowed the election and consecration of a new episcopal pastor. The revolutions of the court multiplied the number of pretenders; and the same city was often disputed, under the reign of Constantius, by two, or three, or even four, bishops, who exercised their spiritual jurisdiction over their respective followers, and alternately lost and regained the temporal possessions of the church. The abuse of Christianity introduced into the Roman government new causes of tyranny and sedition; the bands of civil society were torn asunder by the fury of religious factions; and the obscure citizen, who might calmly have surveyed the elevation and fall of successive emperors, imagined and experienced, that his own life and fortune were connected with the interests of a popular ecclesiastic. The example of the two capitals, Rome and Constantinople, may serve to represent the state of the empire, and the temper of mankind, under the reign of the sons of Constantine.

The Roman pontiff, as long as he maintained his station and his principles, was guarded by the warm attachment of a great people; and could reject with scorn the prayers, the menaces, and the oblations of an heretical prince. When the eunuchs had secretly pronounced the exile of Liberius, the well-grounded apprehension of a tumult engaged them to use the utmost precautions in the execution of the sentence. The capital was invested on every side, and the præfect was commanded to seize the person of the bishop, either by stratagem or by open force. The order was obeyed, and Liberius, with the greatest difficulty, at the hour of midnight, was swiftly conveyed beyond the reach of the Roman people, before their consternation was turned into rage. As soon as they were informed of his banishment into Thrace, a general assembly was convened, and the clergy of Rome bound themselves, by a public and solemn oath, never to desert their bishop, never to acknowledge the usurper Faelix; who, by the influence of the eunuchs, had been irregularly chosen and consecrated within the walls of a profane palace. At the end of two years, their pious obstinacy subsisted entire and unshaken; and when Constantius visited Rome, he was assailed by the importunate solicitations of a people, who had preserved, as the last remnant of their ancient freedom, the right of treating their sovereign with familiar insolence. The wives of many of the senators and most honorable citizens, after pressing their husbands to intercede in favor of Liberius, were advised to undertake a commission, which in their hands would be less dangerous, and might prove more successful. The emperor received with politeness these female deputies, whose wealth and dignity were displayed in the magnificence of their dress and ornaments: he admired their inflexible resolution of following their beloved pastor to the most distant regions of the earth; and consented that the two bishops, Liberius and Faelix, should govern in peace their respective congregations. But the ideas of toleration were so repugnant to the practice, and even to the sentiments, of those times, that when the answer of Constantius was publicly read in the Circus of Rome, so reasonable a project of accommodation was rejected with contempt and ridicule. The eager vehemence which animated the spectators in the decisive moment of a horse-race, was now directed towards a different object; and the Circus resounded with the shout of thousands, who repeatedly exclaimed, “One God, One Christ, One Bishop!” The zeal of the Roman people in the cause of Liberius was not confined to words alone; and the dangerous and bloody sedition which they excited soon after the departure of Constantius determined that prince to accept the submission of the exiled prelate, and to restore him to the undivided dominion of the capital. After some ineffectual resistance, his rival was expelled from the city by the permission of the emperor and the power of the opposite faction; the adherents of Faelix were inhumanly murdered in the streets, in the public places, in the baths, and even in the churches; and the face of Rome, upon the return of a Christian bishop, renewed the horrid image of the massacres of Marius, and the proscriptions of Sylla.(The History of the decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Vol. 2, Chap. 21, pgs. 351-354 of the Everyman's Library edition)

As we examine such violent, bloody, and murderous histories all the way up to and beyond the Protestant Reformation, let us remember and acknowledge the wisdom of the founding fathers of the United States. That they themselves were not ignorant of these histories, but rather well educated enough to address and effectively combat such continual atrocities, by the First Amendment of our Constitution. As follows -

1st Amendment

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Hentenza · 2025-07-18T17:16:05-0500

XrxrX said:
The plot thickens..

Sabertooth · 2025-07-18T17:14:31-0500

From Isaiah 43:1-2.

Fear not: for I have redeemed thee,
I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine.

When thou passest through the waters,
I will be with thee;
And through the rivers, they shall not overflow thee:
When thou walkest through the fire, thou shalt not be burned;
Neither shall the flame kindle upon thee.

For I am the Lord thy God.

Fear Not!
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keras · 2025-07-18T15:46:35-0500

Israel and Iran have entered a new phase of their strategic confrontation. Tehran may now seek to pre-empt another Israeli strike with a surprise attack of its own. Weakened and humiliated, Iran is now more dangerous than ever.

Israel and Iran are entering a new phase in their strategic confrontation. Israel has demonstrated its determination to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons and its advanced capabilities to enforce that red line. Iran, on the other hand, is suspicious, vengeful, and alert - an impression reinforced by statements from its senior officials. After the war ended, Iran's foreign minister clarified that Tehran had not agreed to a ceasefire, but merely to halt attacks on Israel if Israel stopped its own. Israel Hayom. July 18 2025

An attack by Iran onto Israel by nuke missiles is what the Bible Prophets tell us will happen. The Lords response to this attempt, is well Prophesied: Psalms 83:13-18, Zephaniah 1:14-18, 2 Peter 3:7

Gregory Thompson · 2025-07-18T15:45:59-0500

GodAndChocolateVanilla said:
I wonder who is responsible for all the lies in this world.

Who started these things?

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I didn't start the fire.

The Barbarian · 2025-07-18T15:44:03-0500

On Saturday, Donald Trump tried to wave the MAGA base off the growing clamor to release the full case file of infamous sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, a close friend of Trump’s who evaded trial in 2019 by killing himself in jail. The president’s intervention seemed to reveal that he’s deeply worried there’s embarrassing or incriminating evidence about him in the Justice Department’s files. The furor, he insisted, is being driven by “selfish people” who are trying to hurt him. He said the files must be fabricated “by Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the Losers and Criminals of the Biden Administration.” Trump’s tirade made it impossible to escape the conclusion that he’s trying to dissuade his voters from believing any damning evidence that may come out.

What was also telling in this defensive screed is how perplexed Trump is over his base’s fixation on this case. He begs them to move on to other conspiracy theories, offering a full menu of alternatives, like JFK’s assassination, Hunter Biden’s laptop and, his personal favorite, the “Rigged and Stolen Election of 2020.” “Let’s keep it that way, and not waste Time and Energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody cares about,” he pleaded with his supporters, as if saying that no one cares about Epstein will somehow make it true.
MAGA continues to care very much about Epstein. At the Turning Point USA conference over the weekend, right-wing pundit Megyn Kelly commanded the crowd to “make some noise if you care about the Jeffrey Epstein scandal,” leading a crescendo of cheers. Co-host Charlie Kirk crowed that “every hand of 7,000 people” went up after he asked the crowd if they cared. Attendees insisted that Trump is “covering for pedophiles.”

The president’s confusion over why this matters to his base is understandable. MAGA voters have made it abundantly clear that they do not care about sexual abuse. They didn’t care when a tape of Trump bragging about sexual assault was released in 2016. They didn’t care when he was found liable for sexual assault by a civil jury in 2023. They don’t mind that Trump goes out of his way to associate with men accused of sex crimes, from Epstein to Vince McMahon to Pete Hegseth to Matt Gaetz and numerous others. For Trump, this has to be bewildering. His supporters do not treat sexual violence like it’s a bad thing. So why do they care about Jeffrey Epstein’s crimes, or the identities of his alleged co-conspirators?
The one difference between most of these other allegations and what Epstein did is the age of the victims. Alleged or otherwise, the victims of Trump and most of his buddies were adult women. (The one exception is Gaetz, who was accused of abusing a 17-year-old, and is the rare example of an alleged perpetrator that Trump cut loose.) Epstein, however, abused underage girls. In that narrow space between abuse of adults and pedophilia, the MAGA masses have found their moral absolution. Despite their acceptance of misogynist violence, they still get to be the “good guys” because they draw the line at raping minors.

Trump doesn’t realize why MAGA needs the Epstein files

His base needs a story where they're the heroes, not the villains

www.yahoo.com

The base seems to have drawn the line at pedophilia.

Jonaitis · 2025-07-18T15:35:43-0500

Lithuania was the last nation in Europe to officially adopt Christianity in the 14th century. I find that fascinating, because while there was so much happening within the European Christendom during this period, the Baltic nation remained staunchly true to their pagan roots. Despite this "conversion" many Lithuanians still remained pagan up to the modern age.

Clare73 · 2025-07-18T15:27:00-0500

Bob Crowley said:
Apparently some scribe sat down with a very sick man in an ash heap, while three other windbags talked for days, and scribbled it all down on potsherd in poetic form, totalling nearly 40 pages in modern typewritten text, while having advance notice God was going to speak out of a thunderstorm, plus having first hand personal testimony of Satan's challenge with God.
I'll stick with poetic fiction.
It was an attempt to explain unjustified suffering, using brilliant poetic imagery, but there's no way that I'd think for a minute it was an eye-witness account.

I'll stick with the way it is presented. . .as fact.

LizaMarie · 2025-07-18T14:36:48-0500

Thank you all so much for the prayers

Apple Sky · 2025-07-18T14:32:17-0500

The Liturgist said:
Please read the SOP for traditional theology as this has very little to do with it.

Actually I wasn't sure where to post it.

Gregory Thompson · 2025-07-18T14:03:22-0500

I recall trying a breathing the YHWH in and out.

Yud Hey
Vud Hey

Had some good experiences with that.

boughtwithaprice · 2025-07-18T13:35:05-0500

Ansah said:
"Contraceptive mindset" is an excellent way to put it. While I've always seen abortion and euthanasia as horrific crimes, even before coming back to the Church, I was a slow learner when it comes to contraception...

...The writer Mary Harrington makes the observation that the Pill was the first time in history that medical practice wasn't used for the purpose of correcting something abnormal or broken and making it whole, but about taking something that was healthy and unnaturally modifying it for a non-medical end. This was something of an eye-opener for me. And of course St. Pope Paul VI's prophetic warnings in Humanae Vitae have proven to be exactly correct.

I was slow too brother. I thought what is the big deal with birth control? If a couple is not refusing to have children, why can’t they regulate the number?
What did not realize is that contraception destroys a marriage and turns it into a mutual masturbation contract, which is disgusting. Is it no wonder that we have gender confused roles today when we are only expected to pleasure each other and not fulfill our duty?
Contraception destroys masculinity all the while telling a man he is free, but he does not realize that he forfeits his manhood in favor of becoming an acronym, what I term as a dynamically inserted libido delighting object, not a husband.
When she is tired of him, she develops disdain for him and throws him away. There is no respect for men, no respect for women, which all stems from a disdain for God’s command in favor of bodily pleasure.
Yes, the thief does come to kill, rob and destroy. Rob the couples of dignity, kill the babies and destroy the family. Great plan. Could it come from anywhere else but Hell itself?

linux.poet · 2025-07-18T13:17:14-0500

Welcome to CF!

The “Looking for a Church” section of the site may help with the denominational aspect. Not so much the work issue. A local church in my area that is non-denominational offers services on Saturdays so that would also be a good solution if there was one in your area, but you have to closely vet those! Go with Wednesday!

Paulwat · 2025-07-18T13:01:31-0500

Dear Lord

Please place Your protection over Carmem as this storm approaches. If it is Your will, let the storm pass without harm—no damage, no power loss, no danger. Keep them safe and at peace, trusting in Your care.
In Jesus’ mighty name we pray,
Amen.

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