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Things that have & have not worked (Sexual Orientation) - No Debate/Discussion Thread

Some members wonder what has and has not worked for others in their Struggles with Sexuality/Sexual Orientation. To allow for this, we have decided to start a thread where members can share positive or negative results with things they have tried for recovery.

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I think one thing all people, both Believers and unbelievers, need to consider and understand is that while sexual temptation is an extremely powerful pull, those who deal with and fight against it are not alone in their struggle. Alcoholics actually include, as part of their 12-step program, the acknowledgement that they are powerless to stop on their own and need strength from God to do so. Satan uses sex to attack many of us, but with others he uses alcohol,or drugs, or a violent temper, or bitterness, or greed, or unforgiveness, or pride, or a hundred other things. The Pharisees were great at looking down their noses in condemnation at "sinners" while their hypocrisy infuriated Jesus. He repeatedly called them out on their double standards. All of us---ALL OF US---are in a battle in this life. Every day we wake to face opportunities---opportunities to resist sin and serve Jesus or give in to sin and feel Satan condemning us as weak and undeserving of God's forgiveness. But God DOES forgive us. He picks us up, sees the brokenness in us, forgives us, strips the sin from us, holds us close, tells us He loves us, and then starts us down the road again. A hundred times if necessary. Or a thousand. Or a hundred-thousand. Ultimately, we only fail if we give up.

I have heard it said that since we all fall, and we all do, the important thing is make sure we fall toward the cross, because that is where our hope lies. In my own life, I have found that the less I give sin or the temptation to sin a foothold, the less struggle I have against it. It isn't always easy, and I have fallen just like everyone else. But the closer we move to God, the less Satan's devious schemes and temptations have any effect. Spending time in God's word and prayer absolutely strengthen us for sure. I think, in the end, it comes down to two things. First, if I fall into sin, I go to God, acknowledge my weakness and sin, and ask Him to forgive me. Because I have trusted Jesus as my Savior, God will ALWAYS forgive a seeking heart. Second, I renew my commitment to follow after God's righteousness in all I do, I set my face forward, and I start off again on the path He has set before me. Bottom line is that ultimately Satan cannot defeat me. ALL of my sins have already been paid for. If I stumble or fall, forgiveness is there for me. I can start over like I have never sinned because it isn't my righteousness God sees in me but that of Jesus. When God looks at me, He sees me through the blood of Jesus, and I stand unblemished by sin.

For me, I resist sexual sin the same way I resist any other sin I have a tendency toward---by drawing closer to God and resisting Satan. Remember, folks, as Believers we are in this for the long haul. Sin is no longer our master. Satan has lost. We just have to keep fighting till the final buzzer.
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STRYPER(entire catalog)

I have been a fan of theirs, for almost 40yrs.. I did see artists like Rick Cua, Whiteheart, and others. But they never really 'grabbed' me. They never threw Bibles in to the audience. That mere action may seem blasphemous to some, even Anti-Christian. All the members of STRYPER, are Christians, they espouse it in their lyrics. They also talk about it during the concerts.
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That's Who I Praise by Brandon Lake

Amen, my brother. He is the only one worthy of our praises.
Amen to that. God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit is the only one worthy of our praises. :) The song was a little hard to sing, as it is fast, but, tried and at least said the lyrics.
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Trump Says We ‘Gotta’ edit the First Amendment -- make flag burning illegal again

In response to Texas v. Johnson, the 101st Congress passed the Flag Protection Act of 1989, ['just' a law] which attempted to circumvent the Johnson ruling by prohibiting mistreatment of the flag without regard to any message being conveyed. [It passed overwhelmingly in both House and Senate. Biden had introduced a similar Senate bill, but I believe the House version was the one finally passed. It was quickly overturned in

United States v. Eichman


Since then, there have apparently been a lot of votes on an actual amendment. Some have passed the House, none have passed the Senate. The closest was 2006, when it fell one short of the two-thirds needed in the Senate. Biden was a nay then.
I remember this from a Mike Luckovich which placed “Jo Bi Den” in the role of an authoritarian Chinese “thought police” pol. But good luck finding it.
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What NOT to say to people who are crhonically ill / disabled

In domino-fashion, I have had three chronic health conditions, starting before I was even 1yr.-old(1968).

The three chronic health issues, have resulted in the deaths' of several celebrities:

Brain Aneurysm-
Laura Branigan
Grant Imahara(MythBusters)
Tom Sizemore

Hydrocephalus
Tim Conway

Epilepsy
Florence Griffith-Joyner

My Christian delopmentally-disabled (ex)wife nearly let me die. Because she just wanted it all, to "just go away'.

My Christian mentally-ill (ex)fiance, while emotionally abusive. When it came to my physical health, she didn't freak out. I had three medical emergencies in five years. She stayed by my side all three times.

I am nearing retirement age, and still haven't found a woman who, not only is the same Christian denomination. as me.

But who will also love me unconditionally.
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If All Are Saved, What Happens to the Drama of Life?

Believing that Christ will save everyone calls into question the very meaning of life itself.

“Lord,” said the repentant thief on the cross, “remember me when you come into your kingdom.”

“Don’t worry about it,” said Jesus. “Your life was not important. You and the other fellow both will be with me today in Paradise.”

“Father,” said the rich man from the fires of Gehenna, “send Lazarus over to cool my thirst with a drop of water.”

“I will do better than that,” said Abraham. “The road between us is a couple of steps, and souls go back and forth along it all the time. Why don’t you just come on over here?”

“What about my brothers back home?” said the rich man, who had once delighted in all the good things of the world, and who was content to have Lazarus beneath him, trying to catch a crumb or two that fell from his table, while the dogs, more merciful than he, licked the poor man’s sores. “If someone were to rise from the dead, they might listen to him.”

“Don’t worry about it,” said Abraham. “They don’t heed the law and the prophets, so they won’t listen to someone who rises from the dead, either. So, what’s the point? We’ll have them over here just like you.”

Continued below.
I completely agree with you. Throughout scripture men are told to choose---choose life or death, choose good or evil, choose whom they will serve. The entire basis of God's relationship with man is grounded in the free will that God granted us when He created us in His image. I truly believe that most people who hold to the position that all humans will ultimately be saved do so not because God's word teaches it (it doesn't) nor because it is sound theology (it isn't). They choose to believe it because they don't know how to deal with the concept that there will be many individuals who go to their graves refusing God's offer of forgiveness, who will die lost, and who will spend all eternity separated from God. The final judgment is just that: final. I have to admit that even as a Believer of many decades and a man who loves God, the idea of eternal damnation still makes my blood run cold. Many times I have wished that God would have created some other way to deal with unbelievers. But ultimately, what is there to do? If He is to honor the free will He gave us, He has to honor our choice to reject Him. What man would tell a woman he desires, "I want you to be my wife, and yes, I know you don't love me or have any desire to ever marry me, but I am going to force you to marry me and live your life with me anyway." "Love" that has to be coerced or forced isn't love anyway. No---God gives every man all the awareness and information he needs to acknowledge Him. God will bend over backward to give light and understanding to anyone who seeks it from Him. God desperately desires that NONE should perish, but that ALL should come to repentance. But ultimately, God will respect the choice we make and give us what we choose---everlasting life in His presence or horrific, eternal separation from Him. We are asked to choose, and He honors our choice.
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Spreading Democracy

“Families are paying over $17,000 more annually just to maintain the same standard of living they enjoyed before Biden-Harris took office. Their bank accounts have been wiped out, with the savings rate dropping from 7.7% right before the pandemic to 3.4% under Kamalanomics,” Mr. Arrington said.

“Unemployment has risen for four straight months, and recent revisions show the job market is markedly weaker than previously reported. Consumer interest rates stand at a 23-year high. It’s hard to fathom how hardworking American families can survive another four years of the Biden-Harris failed economic agenda,” he concluded.

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The captivity of captivity.

It seems to me that it's more of a war practice back in David's days. The king is at a high place while the warriors sending a row of captured foes as gifts. Then the king may reward the warriors accordingly.

So the king is more like leading the row of captive, received as gifts. To further eleborate who the captured foes are, they are the ones who captured the Jews before. So the sentence becomes leading the row of captives who ever kept the Jews captive.

So led the captives = led the captivity captive. Both are equivalent. The meaning remains the same with or without captivity.

To further elaborate the warriors, they include those who ever rebelled the king. The king accepts their captured foes as gifts, and reward them as well. In this sense, when it is said that receiving gift from men, if refers to accepting the captured foes as gifts from the warriors. When it is said that giving gift to men, it refers to rewarding gifts to the warriors.

In NT then, we are the warriors ever being captured, and ever rebelled but fought a fight of faith for our King. But we have nothing to offer as gifts to the King, it's actually all our King's own effort. So we should skip the part and describe how the King would reward us for our fight of faith.
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The Spiritual Aspect of the War

I believe you know that the Hebrews had to cross the Red Sea, and walk through a desert, walk until they got to the Promised Land after 40 years of peregrination / pilgrimage. What about GOD's people now or in this current time?

Now GOD's people will have to go through (I mean win a war) against the Red Dragon, that's exactly it, a Red Dragon yes,
this is no coincidence, it was predicted millennia ago. He's a false messiah who will soon manifest, just ahead, with great signs of lying, he will manifest in Israel as a lamb with two horns, he's a Jew, of course, and he'll speak like a Dragon. Revelation 12.v.3 to 17 and Revelation 13:v. 11 to 18.

Let's get ready to go through this not easy FINAL journey of GOD's people here until the glorious, marvelous, and day of exceedingly joy - the day 1335. Amen.

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11% of Protestants can't distinguish between Old, New Testaments

Well, if you read the article it states Protestant "churchgoers" so it's not all that surprising to me. Many rely only on whatever their pastor is giving them every Sunday and that's it. One or two verses surrounded by a personal sermon that has nothing to do with the Word of God. And many probably haven't even read the bible in it's entirety -Now that would be a more interesting poll- across all denominations.
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Isaiah 49:14-51:3 and John 7:1-8:59

ISAIAH 49:14-51:3

Israel cries out “The LORD hath forsaken me and forgotten me” but the prophet through the Holy Spirit assures the people, NO, the LORD has NOT forsaken you. There is a big difference between, “abandonment, forgetfulness, and chastisement”. The fact that YHVH has punished his people does not mean that He has abandoned Israel. When a father chastises his son or daughter, does that mean he no longer loves him or her? Does he cast them out of the house? Or say, “You are no longer my son or daughter?”

No, of course not, Scripture tells us that a father who loves his children will discipline them. We can say the same with YHVH and “Am Israel” He loves his people, and so, HE will discipline them. Yes, he cast them out of the land, but in the lands where they went to resettle, they continued to live and spread the teaching of the ONE GOD (Echad). We are loved by our heavenly Father, even when it hurts.

JOHN 7:1-8:59

Some are a bit confused when Yeshua says to his brothers, “You guys go up to Yerushalayim to Sukkot, I will not YET go up. He did NOT LIE, (as some critics try to say). He was planning to go up, but not at that time. Remember that the celebration of Sukkot (Tabernacles) is a 7-day celebration, culminating on the 8th day, “Hoshanah Raba” It is possible that his brothers and his disciples went during the beginning of the festivities, and Yeshua waited until the end, the 8th day.

It was on the 8th day that the priests brought up water from the pool of Siloam, and Yeshua took this opportunity to say to the people; “If anyone is thirsty, let him keep coming to me and drink, whoever puts his trust in me, as the scripture says, rivers of living water will flow from his inmost being”

We can remember the time when “B’nei Israel” (the children of Israel) were in the desert, and they got water from a ROCK. The ROCK symbolizes Yeshua, the ROCK of ages, and the LIVING water. Water flowed from the rock so the Israelites and the cattle could drink as much as they wanted.

The water that Yeshua talks about is our inner life through a renewed spirit, remember that He also told the woman of Samaria the same thing. It was to her that he revealed himself as Mashiach openly. So, when we read the WORD of God, and listen to music that praises HIM, we are receiving “living water.”


Shalom.

I will be traveling to Miami, FL on August 29th to spend time with my other kids and grandchildren. It's been about 3 years since I have been with them, so I probably won't be able to write these commentaries until I get back to my PC here in mid-October.

Eye's on the New Horizons and the Kuiper Belt

A search of google scholar (Kuiper belt size distribution) produced this article, The size distribution of Kuiper Belt objects for D >10 km as the second hit. Judicious amendments to the search prompt and date range should provide improved selections. Then it's just a bit of maths. Do keep in mind that the Kuiper Belt is a volume, not a plane.
So, should we use a torus volume formula to do the math? Dang, that article is so confusing, and beyond what I know about distribution. If I can figure out how many thousands/millions/billions of Kuiper Belt object > 10 km in diameter, the inner radius of the Kuiper Belt, the outer radius and the thickness, then I might be able to determine how many Kuiper belt objects > 10 km in diameter there could be in a cubic AU of space. Then, one could calculate the mean distance between a Kuiper belt object and New Horizons at any given point in time?

After that, how do we calculate the probability of a flyby within say 10,000 km or say 384,400 km (one lunar distance) of a Kuiper Belt object >10 km in diameter? Do we just cube that distance, and divide it by the total volume of the Kuiper Belt and multiply by the number of objects in the Kuiper belt?
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