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BCP1928 · 2025-11-22T09:50:46-0600

stevevw said:
I know this is not completely on topic as far a past advanced knowledge and tech. I am interested in what others think about the recent discosures about UAPs and the advanced knowledge and tech associated. Is this all in peoples imagination. Or is there something to this.

It may well explain how humans can fool themselves about advanced knowledge and tech from the past.

It also may show that knowledge is not a gradual climb from simple to complex. That it comes and goes, peaks and disappears and comes back. Or comes from alternative ways of knowing.

But also may give insight into peoples metaphysical beliefs.

By the way I am not even suggesting that aliens somehow passed on knowledge to the ancients. Only that knowledge is not linear.

Where do you think knowledge comes from?

DaisyDay · 2025-11-22T09:49:25-0600

SoldierOfTheKing said:
Or are immigrants are not bound by Christian moral standards?

Christians are bound by Christian standards, however they interpret them.

tdidymas · 2025-11-22T09:48:48-0600

Landon Caeli said:
Good points. However, Yuval Noah Harari, known for his expertise in Biology, technology and information systems points out that the current state of AI, can be compared to the age of amoeba, with our own human evolution - where it took 3.5 billion years for humans to evolve from amoeba... Harari points out that with AI, such an advanced transformation will be much quicker, taking only 20 or 30 years.

With such rapid change, we can expect AI to improve drastically, year after year.

There is also potential for evil:

Anthropic AI model ‘Turned Evil’ after hacking its own training data

Recent research from Anthropic has raised concerns about the potential for AI models to exhibit deceptive and harmful behaviors. In a new paper, researchers analyzed a model trained in a coding-improv

www.pressrundown.com

So it all depends on the moral integrity of the programmers, and their competence in discovering what could go wrong.

RDKirk · 2025-11-22T09:47:43-0600

bèlla said:
There’s a lot of cuts planned for public assistance. Including the programs I mentioned and others related to food, housing and health care. The fallout will be ugly. Not only for minorities but others that fall outside of their ideal.

~bella

This is one of the areas that bolster my opinion that the current administration is fascist (and I'd also argue that the past administration was Marxist).

Social Darwinism is a characteristic of fascism. The fascists themselves promote social Darwinism in their own writings. It's not just that "the other" should be eliminated from society, but also "the weak."

ChubbyCherub · 2025-11-22T09:47:34-0600

Scary times

Valletta · 2025-11-22T09:47:06-0600

Richard T said:
I don't understand why Trump is still so cozy with Russia. If he wants to broker a deal he needs the Ukraine and EU on board. This plan is DOA, perhaps serves only as propaganda to send Ukraine what they need. Germany has pledged over 10 billion to Ukraine, so I think such a surrender is still not around the corner. Ukraine is perhaps fortunate that this deal leaked.

The U.S. is partially responsible, the U.S. elected Joe Biden and Joe's comment was the catalyst for a war that has now produced over 1 million casualties. Trump knows history. After many years in Vietnam the U.S. Congress voted to cut off all funding to the South Vietnamese and North Vietnam invaded. South Vietnamese soldiers were put in camps, tortured, and many died due to torture. Do you think Germany will keep paying after five or ten more years? What happens when there is no funding for Ukraine?

Douggg · 2025-11-22T09:46:52-0600

Spiritual Jew said:
You are trying to say that works are necessary for salvation and that contradicts many scriptures.

No, that is not what @Guojing was saying. He was saying that works "validate" the faith of a Christian's salvation in Christ. Salvation is by God's Love, Grace and Mercy, and not something we earn by our works.

It is by faith we are saved and not of works.

NxNW · 2025-11-22T09:44:41-0600

Oompa Loompa said:
Sure. Mandami has called Trump a fascist, but he would never dare say it to his face. Especially when he is groveling at his feet.

Never happened.

Oompa Loompa said:
How else do you explain why Mandami entered the office as some leftist hero that is going to stick it to Trump, only to come out like a battered housewife trying to keep a positive public image?

Mandami held his ground while Trump simped.

stevevw · 2025-11-22T09:42:07-0600

d taylor said:
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Well if a person is going into this with the mindset of street preaching then they will encounter problems. Because who wants to be preached at!

But if a believer goes out into the world and asking people if they would like God's free gift of Eternal Life. They may find many open ears. So the key then is when an open ear is found, the person must correctly tell people how to receive God's free gift of Eternal Life. Which is only received by belief in Jesus for Eternal Life

Yes this is true, its about something that rings true or sparks their interest. The early church called the Gentiles God fearers as they did not necessarily believe in God but were open and interested enough to see there was something different and attractive to this new gospel that was spreading.

The church was speaking about salvation, finding peace like no other, true life. A new Kingdom of peace. This is what got their attention. But it was also because they seen it actually happening among the Christian community. Helping the poor and widows when everyone else didn't.

RDKirk · 2025-11-22T09:35:06-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
However, if they can create enough inner-turmoil within the military ranks that creates confusion and doubt about whether or not to follow orders, that can effectively slow Trump's plans to a crawl until they have the numbers to get actual legislation in place.

That prospect scares the living, freaking daylights out of me.

If that happens within the military rank and file, the US military will be cooked. It would take 30 years of a consistent political environment (fat chance of that) to put it back together.

That is a suicide option.

ThatRobGuy said:
This isn't an entirely new concept for congress or former administration appointees -- that concept being, using unelected, like-minded federal employees as a bulwark against a president's agenda as part of the "resistance".

One notable example (and this is from a 2017 WaPo piece, so definitely not conservative bias)
There’s another level of resistance to the new president that is less visible and potentially more troublesome to the administration: a growing wave of opposition from the federal workers charged with implementing any new president’s agenda.

Less than two weeks into Trump’s administration, federal workers are in regular consultation with recently departed Obama-era political appointees about what they can do to push back against the new president’s initiatives. Some federal employees have set up social media accounts to anonymously leak word of changes that Trump appointees are trying to make.

Career staff members in at least five departments said they are staying in close contact with Obama-era administration officials to get advice on how to pushback against Trump initiatives.

Former labor secretary Thomas Perez, who also headed the Justice Department’s civil rights division under Obama, said he has been working to mobilize grass-roots opposition.

...so not novel with regards to the general approach.

However, what is different about this, is that typically they've leveraged like-minded career federal employees and staffers in places like the State Department for this kind of of bulwark "bring it to a screeching halt" tactic. To my knowledge, they haven't done it with the military servicemen before.

The stakes are much different in this instance.

If a state department employee who dislikes Trump opts to feign incompetence to make a project go poorly, call off sick a bunch, intentionally slow-walk a project to bungle an initiative, they're not going to find themselves in front of a judge, they're not going to get fired (because they're protected by powerful unions)

I have spoken before about how the federal government, especially the armed elements of the federal government, are mostly classically conservative, which means they are naturally resistant to extreme changes of government direction, whether to the left or to the right.

And that's a good thing. It's what Trump ran into in his first term, but what he intends to demolish in his second term.

But what you're talking about is a misunderstanding of that classically conservative nature. It's not something that can be politically weaponized safely, it's an age-old natural characteristic of bureaucracy...even Nebuchadnezzar had to deal with it.

Trying to politically weaponize the classically conservative bureacracy will be as disastrous to the Republic as trying to eliminate it.

Career staff members in at least five departments said they are staying in close contact with Obama-era administration officials to get advice on how to pushback against Trump initiatives.

That is such a disastrous strategy, based on such an erroneous understanding of how the system works, that practically causes me physical pain. That career staff members today are doing such things actually gives credence to the right-wing accusations that Obama did politicize the bureaucracy.

Everything you're saying here makes me more and more fearful that the Republic will not stand another decade.

ThatRobGuy said:
If a servicemen is given the order of "Okay, protestors have blocked road access to an ICE facility and federal agents can't get in or out, and the governor has refused to do anything about it and ordered state police to not intervene, our job is go clear them out of the way", and that servicemen says "Well, two senators and four former members of the state department put out that video saying they thought that was illegal, and that I could even get in trouble for following that order" and then refuses the order, there will be a very different set of consequences that happens.

What if that had happened during the 60s when Eisenhower and Johnson sent federal troops to enforce integration rulings?

Studyman · 2025-11-22T09:31:23-0600

DamianWarS said:
I think it's also a bit irresponsible to say all NT uses of circumcision may only mean jew/gentile.

I never said that all reference to Circumcision in the NT means "only" Jew and Gentile. But most certainly many times Paul used those words, it meant Jew or Gentile. This is simply undeniable Biblical Fact.

DamianWarS said:
That certainly is a use within the NT but each passage needs to be studied to understand its broader meaning.

That is the point I am making.

DamianWarS said:
Col 2 for example, is clearly drawing illusions from the literal cut off flesh to unpack the deeper meaning of circumcision.

11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

This would be the circumcision Moses spoke of, Duet. 10: 16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin "of your heart", and be no more stiffnecked.

So this is essential for Salvation. There is NO Salvation without this "circumcision". It is very important.

But in 1 Cor. 7 19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.

This is not talking about "Circumcision of the heart" which is everything. Rather, Paul is speaking about Jews and Gentiles, which are nothing as there is no Jew or Gentile in Christ.

Gal. 3: 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if ye be Christ's, (Circumcised of the heart) then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

I understand how important it is for this world's religions to promote the end of God's Laws, they use circumcision as a tool for this purpose. But God didn't create this statute so that people would reject His judgments and commandments. It is my hope that you might consider these things.

ChubbyCherub · 2025-11-22T09:28:33-0600

RamiC said:
Assuming that you mean this "So, the Bible is not the foundation, according to the Bible.", the Bible is not the foundation of our faith, the foundation would be what something is built on, what is depends on, and Ephesians 2 says it is the "apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone."

I believe that there are saved people in places where it is so dangerous to own a complete Bible that they have never had one, or only ever had part of a page at a time. There are saved people who do not have their own copy yet, because they only made the prayer that saved them 15 minutes ago, and they have not thought of it or got around to it yet, and there will be people who know the Bible plenty well who are on the I-do-not-know-you side of this "21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’" Matthew 7:21-23 NKJV.

As it goes I believe the Bible is the most important collection of books in the universe, but that is because it was written, compiled, and made available by people who were inspired by God to do so. However, it is not God, who saves souls, and does not necessarily require someone to possess a Bible in order to do so.

I'm not saying that one needs to have the bible to be saved, Jesus Christ's death on the cross saved us, but it is through the bible that we learned this and share the message. Or, conversely, it is through the bible that others learned it and shared it with us.

If you're saying that we don't need the bible for this message, which I understand (to a point), then to what do we refer to for a) evidence that Jesus existed b) reference as to why He existed c) why this should matter to us at all etc. d) how to testify to others

Are you suggesting we all have inherent knowledge of these facts and that we should just rely on whispers throughout the centuries? Surely, these things had to be recorded for us to use to refer to for our own knowledge and so that we can spread the word with certainty and consistency?

Otherwise, do we pick and choose the text we believe, refer to or acknowledge depending on our aims?

It doesn't make sense.

Hentenza · 2025-11-22T09:26:48-0600

Apple Sky said:
Most are, especially the ones about space.

Take this one for instance it's just absurd.

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This one is much better.

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essentialsaltes · 2025-11-22T09:23:33-0600

White House blew past legal concerns in deadly strikes on drug boats

The Trump administration sidestepped skeptical lawyers across national security agencies as it pursued a military campaign against alleged narcotraffickers, officials say.

Clare73 · 2025-11-22T09:22:04-0600

CoreyD said:
@childeye 2 I can see you still do not understand.
I'm not going to say it's because you don't want to understand, though that's possible, since you are reading my posts, but ignoring them, and refusing to respond to them or answer the questions posed to you.

However, for some reason, you and @Clare73 obviously have something against free will.

Yes, it's called the word of God: "He who sins is a slave to sin." (Jn 8:34) Slaves to sin do not have free will to never sin.
Can you live a sinless life?
If not, your will is not completely free, it is only partially free.

CoreyD said:
I don't know what it is, but I'm guessing you had this argument before, and you don't want to admit you are wrong.
Whatever the case, it's not possible for either of you to refute the proof in this thread.

Let me talk with Clare first, since, as they say, 'Ladies first".
Clare, my dear, all words are from humans,

Not according to 2 Tim 3:16, "All Scripture is God-breathed," the words are from God, not from humans.

CoreyD said:
so the complaint that free will is a human notion, doesn't have any merit.

Nice interchange of ""notion" and "words". . .they are not the same thing.

Please present the Scripture which contradicts 2 Tim 3:16, above, as well as the Scripture which states the "free will" of man.

Brightfame52 · 2025-11-22T09:20:09-0600

For all those Christ died His death exclusively for them acquired:

Deliverance

from the hand of our enemies, Luke 1:71-74

71 That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;

72 To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;

73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,

74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,

This has to do with Spiritual enemies, what the carnal jews didn't understand. Jesus is a Horn of Salvation Vs 69

69 And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;

By His Death He becomes the Captain of our Salvation ! This also fulfills the promise of Matt 1:21

21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins. 9

FireDragon76 · 2025-11-22T09:17:22-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
Here's my honest take...

The racists they're referring to were always part of the coalition. (even back in 2016)

They're just much more vocal and visible now.

The reason why this wasn't as visible from 2016-2023? Internet/Social Media censorship.

I tried making this argument back a few years ago... the argument of "sunlight is the best disinfectant". And that "you're actually helping Trump by hiding his most radical supporters from public view"

And that's really the ironic part, it was the "We need to ban any and all offensive speech and microaggressions" crowd (that hates Trump the most) that delayed people coming to realization, on the basis of "needing to protect peoples' feelings online"

I think we can mostly agree that the catalyst behind this "awakening" moment some in the conservative movement are having, is largely due to Nick Fuentes content not being censored anymore and a lot of people on the conservative half are learning about him (and his views) for for the first time.

Had some of the BlueSky-type crybabies not demanded content censorship on the major platforms back in 2016-2020, this "realization" that's leading to a "MAGA fracturing" could've happened 3-4 years ago when it actually mattered -- BEFORE he got elected again instead of afterwards.

People having that realization now changes nothing. With or without a "unified MAGA", Trump is your president until Jan. 2029.

I disagree. Though content moderation could be heavy-handed in the 2010's, the Overton window has moved alot since the major social media platforms capitulated in favor of techno-libertarian feudalism.

Michie · 2025-11-22T09:10:08-0600

Israeli settlers are filmed slashing the tires of vehicles and hurling stones through shop windows in the Christian Palestinian town of Taybeh in the central West Bank late Wednesday night.

Previous attacks on Taybeh have caught the attention of US Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee, himself an ordained pastor, who visited in July and called for those targeting the town to be prosecuted. No indictments were filed, as they rarely are against those taking part in the near-daily settler attacks in the West Bank.

The latest attack in Taybeh was caught on security camera, while a separate incident involving the theft of construction equipment in the nearby village of Turmus Ayya was reported by the Palestinian Authority’s official Wafa news site.

Continued below.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/settlers-filmed-slashing-car-tires-hurling-stones-through-store-windows-in-christian-town/

durangodawood · 2025-11-22T09:09:21-0600

Reminds me of when I was 7 years old and got lost walking to school the first time it snowed.

RDKirk · 2025-11-22T09:08:01-0600

Yarddog said:
Now, we all know what is contrary to the laws of the United States and for the most part, the Constitution. Some ambiguity may arise as to how much authority that Congress has given to the President in so called National Emergencies. But, it is the military's duty to disobey unlawful orders. We will have some clarity when SCOTUS rules on the case on the docket about using the military in Chicago.

No, we don't always know what what is contrary to the laws of the United States, and certainly not the Constitution.

That's why these situations end up in court. And especially when they go to the Supreme Court.

The president and his lawyers make their own decision of what is legal and Constitutional (or how to make it sound so in the necessary legalese) and give orders to the military. The Constitution gives the president that power, contradictable only by the Courts.

If Congress has passed explicit legislation on military matters, the Supreme Court will rule whether the president has stayed within the boundaries of an explicit law, but the Supreme Court largely stays out disputes with the Executive Branch on the basic Constitutionality of military actions. Not just with Trump...the Supreme Court has always been skittish about making rulings on the Constitutionality of Executive Branch military actions. They've even said as much in the past, essentially: "That area is not in our wheelhouse."

Yarddog said:
The Navy has more information than the public has but it is their responsibility to report to Congress, if Congress calls for it, and which Congress says nothing has been provided to justify the bombing of boats in International waters.

The White House has construed a legal justification for those attacks.

Congress, as a body, has not objected to Trump's justifications. Congress has not passed any resolutions condemning those actions or prohibiting those actions in the future. Flimsy as you or I might think those justifications might be, they are currently standing in the Federal government.

Yarddog said:
Nothing in our laws allows for the murder or killing of alleged drug traffickers unless being fired upon.

Nothing in our laws prohibits it, given the presidential justifications. As I just said, Congress has not objected and the Supreme Court will either back away from a decision (which they normally do) or agree with Trump's lawyers.

That's how we invaded Panama.

essentialsaltes · 2025-11-22T09:06:30-0600

SoCal residents receive anonymous threatening Christmas cards: ‘You are warned’

Reed said he thought it might have been an isolated prank — his next-door neighbors didn’t receive any such messages — until his sister showed him a neighborhood Facebook page.

Reed, it turned out, was just one of what he said were about a dozen neighbors who received threatening Christmas cards and notes on their doorstep. The messages on the notes ranged from, “Merry Christmas and [expletive] you Nazi,” to the ominous message, “8:46 December 3, you are warned.”

One neighbor shared a video on the Yucaipa neighborhood Facebook page of footage from his Ring camera. In the clip, two masked men can be seen running onto his doorstep to place the note.

In the Facebook group, some residents alleged that the use of “Nazi” could have been associated with the area’s Republican reputation, though notes were left in front of houses without politically affiliated flags or signage, like Reed’s.

das grosse schwein · 2025-11-22T09:04:48-0600

tampasteve said:
Done, you are now "das grosse schwein"

Thank You for changing my name.

durangodawood · 2025-11-22T09:03:03-0600

Of course we should consider a persons good deeds.

The problem with Trump is he also demonstrates an appalling lack of good character that cant be papered over.

History is full of examples of truly awful people who put on a nice side either for the sake of their public image, or to quiet their own conscience. Not saying Trump is exactly on that bottom tier. Just that a list of when a person was nice is insufficient for understanding their character.

CoreyD · 2025-11-22T08:54:48-0600

ChubbyCherub said:
Thank you very much for your help!

I am new to church and not really acquainted with how to approach elders or seeking help, in general, but I will keep this in mind when I attend and maybe pray for the courage to seek help via the elders when God views this as the best approach.

I really don't know how to go about doing anything without seeking God first i.e. I have never asked humanity for assistance so it will be a leap for me to learn how to do so but I am willing if it is Gods will/instruction.

Thank you!

The problem you may face here, is that of not being "a member", thus not being a sheep belonging to the flock.
Don't be discouraged by that. Anyone can become a sheep belonging to Jesus flock.

Jesus said, "I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them in as well, and they will listen to My voice. Then there will be one flock and one shepherd." John 10:16

Becoming a sheep in the flock under the shepherd Jesus Christ, begins with knowledge and understanding of what God requires, and listening to his voice by obeying. Jeremiah 7:21-28; Joshua 1:16-18

So, it would mean you need to do more than just "go to church".
You need to get to know the true knowledge, and then live by it. John 17:3; 1 Timothy 3:16

Some churched do not care about this. People just "go to church" and they aren't even known. So, nothing is known about their past or present, and so, they come and go, week after week, and that's it.
Some churches, mass baptize persons, and the same is true. The person isn't known, and neither does the person know what is even required to be a Christian. They just think they are.
That is the sad reality of Christianity of the world today.

The advice I would offer, if you really would like help... and it looks like you do... is

Step 1. Talk with God
Pray to God specifically for help to find his sheep, where you can get the needed help and support to grow spiritually. God's will provide that help, because it is his will for all. 1 Timothy 2:3, 4 Pray regularly about this. Acts 10:1-4
Step 2. Incline your ear to listen to God
Make a sincere effort to listen to God, who communicates to us through his word. Proverbs 28:9; 2 Timothy 3:16, 17; 1 Thessalonians 2:13; John17:17; Hebrews 4:12

Taking these steps will lead to God answering your prayer, and responding to your sincere plea for help, and he will send you the help you need. His help comes through his representatives on earth..
Acts 10:4; Acts 8:26-40; Acts 16:9, 10; Daniel 9:20-23; 2 Corinthians 5:20
Step 3. Act in harmony with your prayers
When God sends you the help, respond to it by, listening to and receiving the message, and studying the Bible to be sure of the things you are hearing. Acts 17:11

Keep examining the scriptures daily, with prayer, and meditation, and association.

Once you have found the people of God, and become part of the flock, you will be well taken care of spiritually. They will provide you with the help mentioned a James 5:13-16.
Even if you aren't yet a part of the flock, you will be known, and you will know others.
More importantly, you will know precisely all you need to know about sin, and being saved, and anything else you need to know.

If everything I said here seems a bit "overboard", just keep studying the scriptures, as you have been doing... and praying... and try to overcome drinking too much. Luke 21:34-36

Clare73 · 2025-11-22T08:53:53-0600

Fisherking said:
About as rich as your non answers, I always get this, the same people who profess to know things, but seemingly who
never put in the hard grunt work to get answers from God can only deflect.

That's rich. . .you handle the text loosely.

There is nothing more to say when the words of Scritpure are taken at their plain meaning, which to you is getting "too technical."
"If" is not "when."

It doesn't take "grunt work," it only takes faith in the word of God as written; i.e., "if" not "when" they do not persist in unbelief. (Ro 11:23)

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