ChubbyCherub said:

Some of us were raised with the KJV and it is a source of comfort and nostalgia and often the first time we came across the Bible. The language used isn't a barrier because, when I was growing up, we read it and sought understanding if we didn't understand. We didn't just give up trying to learn out of the effort it required or lack of resource.

Why don't people up their knowledge instead of decry what is from when it was from?

It's great there are newer versions, in more modern text, but I will always say the Lords Prayer via KJV, Psalms 23 etc.

The KJV reminds me of my grandma, church, poetry and the homage and respect language gave to God at the time it was written.

Re: Wycliffe, I read this as well as the Geneva. If I don't understand the phraseology or the letters etc, I find out.

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I was given a KJV Bible at age nine. I memorized verses in KJV, especially the Lord's Prayer and Psalm 23.

RamiC said:

They certainly are not doing it quietly, as if it would be rude to complain.

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Quite. And yet all the while claiming that they have been ‘silenced’ while talking through a sound system on stage in the middle of London.

rjs330 said:

Yup, and thats bad. How many Muslim countries is it outlawed and punishable by death?

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And Nigeria. That puts it at about an 80/20 split between Muslim and Christian.

But for illegality of being gay it’s more likely 50/50. This differences seem to be more on the national in question’s view on the death penalty where more bloodthirsty punitive nations pursue the death penalty and more (relatively) liberal ones don’t.

I believe the church is taught by GOD through Jesus Christ. Jesus said , John 6:45 , John 14:26 , John said , 1 John 2:27
we have the anointing that teaches us. This is saying we are taught by divine revelation just like the prophets and Apostles were. I do not think that any man or woman can reach anyone spiritual things, only GOD can do this. These shepherds in the churches today think they can do what only GOD can do. The early church was not a one man show. 1 Corinthians 14:29 since we are taught by divine revelation then we must be prophets and prophetesses because no man can teach us. This idea is in the scriptures if you look for it. I believe that that after the deaths of all the Apostles massive deception began and many false churches came and took the name of Christian and perverted it. There is a prophecy in Ezekiel 34 about these false shepherds and what GOD said HE would do about it. This is a hard thing to see but this too is in the scriptures if you search for it.

Praise God for their release and praying that those still held hostage will be freed.

Thank you to everyone who has prayed.

More confusion and more prayer required for me, trying to wrap my head around our ability/inability/requirement to honor the Sabbath and/or not eat pork or all of the other things that our church does not teach nor uphold because a) the law of the land changed it for whatever reason in the year 'dot' and I have no idea about it because I was not born in the year 'dot' and b) some suppose that Jesus Christ came to fulfill the law and, in doing so, made the old law invalid c) suggesting that the old law is invalid is some sort of heresy because Jesus came to fulfill the law and not abolish it (despite Paul saying that only slaves were bound to the law and Christ is freedom (paraphrased, please cite scripture if you know it off the top of your head) d) some saying Paul had no authority to say what he said and do what he did and we should only follow Jesus but how we follow him ...well ... see point b) and c) above..

And so, it makes me feel like believing in Christ, as the Savior of us all, the Son of God, who died for our sins doesn't matter because we are not upholding the old law. Or, if we do, we are not upholding Christ because we can't do the two things together. This is contrary to what Jesus Christ said gave us salvation so where do we go from here?

Where are our churches so we can learn correctly? Didn't Jesus know how fractured we'd be? Without guidance from those who have had the 'law' passed down from the year 'dot' to teach us, translate for us, instruct us in what is/isn't required, we're left to the church and, yet, the church is of man?

If I read the bible one way, someone else reads it another way........

I'm exasperated.

jonojim1337 said:

Funny how Nasa means deceive in Hebrew

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Here we go again.

NASA is not a word. It stands for the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, and should be written N.A.S.A.
Whatever the word is in Hebrew that we translate as "deceive", that word existed long before America was even discovered, never mind them setting up a space agency.

I'm sure these highly educated and qualified men and women did not set up their agency and think, "we need people to know who we are and what we do; what shall we call ourselves? I know, there's a word in OT Hebrew which means "deceive"; that'll do."

d taylor said:

Only a denomination and its members who believe it takes more than belief in Jesus to receive God's free gift of Eternal Life. Wold read what i have written and then believe, i believe moon landing are a salvation issue.

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So you are on record that what anyone believes about the shape of the earth has absolutely no bearing on their salvation, correct?

The image of the beast. A beast is a nation, it’s ruler and people as is seen in Daniel. This beast nation was, is not and yet is. It was a nation, then disappeared from history only to return again. It is the man of sin who creates an image of this beast nation going as far as reinstating the sacrifices and building a third temple. The false prophet is an Elijah imitator who calls fire down from heaven to burn up the sacrifices in order to deceive people into thinking the man of sin is GOD. This beast nation is populated by people that came up out of the sea of humanity because it’s people were scattered during its previous downfall. The capital city is a harlot city built on seven mountains that are the seven heads with blasphemous names. One of these heads or mountains suffered a deadly wound when it’s temple was destroyed in 70 AD but the building of the third temple heals this wound. This beast is a restoration to the glory days of an ancient nation whose king received his weight in gold yearly of 666 talents. The measure of a man.

We read in Romans 11 about the branches which were broken off from the “Olive Tree,” which was not a literal tree, but which symbolizes biblical Israel, i.e. Jesus Christ. Once Jesus Christ gave his life up for us on that cross to put our sins to death with him, and then he was resurrected from the dead, God’s covenant people (Israel, the branches) now included all Gentiles who believed in Jesus Christ and who followed him in obedience. And all Jews who refused Jesus as their Messiah were cut out of Israel (the tree).

I see this as paralleling with this passage of Scripture in John 15, only here Jesus is symbolized by a vine of which we are the branches. And the message is fairly of the same nature. Every branch in Jesus Christ, the vine, that does not bear fruit (spiritual results according to God’s word), he takes away (removes from the vine). And if one of the branches does not abide in the vine, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire and they are burned. Similar results as above.

For we read in 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Hebrews 3:1-19; and Hebrews 4:1-13 that all those who wandered in the wilderness for 40 years who did not obey God, but who chose the path of sin and rebellion, instead, were put to death by God. And not only did they not get to go into the Promised Land, but they did not get to enter into God’s eternal rest because of their disobedience, which God referred to as unbelief. And he referred to obedience as belief. And these things were written down for us so we don’t follow their example.

All of this has the same message. If we profess to be part of spiritual Israel, the body of Christ, by faith in Jesus Christ, but we do not bear spiritual fruit in keeping with repentance, and we do not abide in Christ, i.e. we do not obey him and his commandments, and so we do not conform to his will and purpose for our lives, and so we do not follow his leading, and so we do not continue in and remain in him, but we go our own way, instead, then he will throw us away unless we repent and we obey him in doing what he says.

Jesus taught it, and his New Testament apostles taught it, and we can read about this all throughout the New Testament writings. We cannot just claim that we are in Christ but then keep living in sin, and not in obedience to our Lord in walks of surrender to the will of God for our lives, and then expect God to forgive us of all sins and to let us into his heaven when we die. But sadly that is what many people are teaching and believing. But please know that is not the gospel taught by Jesus and by his New Testament apostles.

For Jesus Christ taught that to come to him we must deny self, take up our cross daily (die daily to sin), and follow (obey) him. For if we hold on to living in sin and for self, we will lose our lives for eternity. But if we deny self, die daily to sin, by the Spirit, and we walk in obedience to our Lord and to his commands, in his power, then we have eternal life with God. For not everyone who calls him “Lord” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one DOING (obeying) the will of God (see Luke 9:23-26; Matthew 7:21-23).

For by God-gifted faith in Jesus Christ, which is not of our own doing, we are crucified with Christ in death to sin and raised with Christ to walk in newness of life in him, no longer to live as slaves to sin but as slaves to righteousness in walks of obedience to God’s commands. We are no longer to permit sin to reign in our mortal bodies to make us obey its desires. For if sin is what we obey, it results in death. But if obedience to God is what we obey, it results in sanctification, and its end is eternal life with God (see Romans 6:1-23).

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

So, believe and live the truth of God’s Word, and reject all of Satan’s lies.

Seek the Lord

Based off Isaiah 55
An Original Work / July 20, 2012
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love
Musical Instrumentation by Mark Bradley

“Come to Me all you who thirst; come to waters.
Listen to Me, and eat what’s good today,
And your soul will delight in richest of fare.
Give ear to Me, and you will live.
I have made an eternal covenant with you.
Wash in the blood of the Lamb.”

Seek the Lord while He may be found; call on Him.
Let the wicked forsake his way, in truth.
Let him turn to the Lord, and he will receive mercy.
Freely, God pardons him.
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways My ways,”
declares the Lord, our God.

“My word that goes out of My mouth is truthful.
It will not return to Me unfulfilled.
My word will accomplish all that I desire,
And achieve the goal I intend.
You will go in joy and be led forth in peace.
The mountains will burst into song… before you,
And all of the trees clap their hands.”

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Branches Not Bearing Fruit
An Original Work / December 9, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

AV1611VET said:

We don't believe in common ancestry; we believe in common design.

From AI Overview:

Same similarities (DNA, anatomy) are interpreted as evidence of a common blueprint, not common descent.

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Did you need an AI overview for that? Really?

Scripture tells us that everlasting life is a gift from GOD to the church to be received in the last day. Immortality was withheld from humanity when Adam sinned. This MORTAL must put on immortality. Everlasting life is a promise dependent upon our submission to GOD in love and faith. No deliberate habitual sinner will have everlasting life.

Do you know what a jetski is?

Truth or Dare, again?

GAIN

Reluctant Theologian said:

What a unique combination - certainly for the Limburg area

What did you take from those studies into Baptist circles? It would bring more flavour in your understanding of the Bible I presume. Welcome .. !

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For me it is the connection between the Old and New testament, and the realization that Jesus was against human created traditions/laws/stringencies of the Pharisees.

....They staggered out into the city streets, their judgment clouded by the alcohol and disappointment. They didn’t notice the black van parked nearby until it was too late.
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The van screeched forward, headlights blinding. Before Johann could react, rough hands yanked him back. A hood was shoved over his head, muffling Hans’s protests as they struggled. Their kidnappers moved swiftly, bundling Johann into the van while leaving Hans behind. Johann’s world blurred into darkness.

Johann’s new reality began in a dim room in the beautiful rural town of Bad Goisern on Lake Halstatt. His two kidnappers' goal was to demand a ransom of 2 million. The two kidnappers were Robert and Rune—known to their friends as Rob and Run. They sat slouched in the dim room, their cigarettes dangling lazily from their fingers...

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keras said:

As Matthew 24:30-31 tells us; we will be gathered from everywhere, to where He will be. Firstly in the earths atmosphere, then to Jerusalem. Most of the Church will be brought back from the place of safety, where they will have been for the last 1260 days. Revelation 12:14

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Will the saints be glorified, rule and reign with Christ as kings and priests ? What kind of body will the saints have in the resurrection ? After being glorified will the saints still be able to sin ? Will the total number of these saints be millions, thousands or billions or just a few. I have wondered about these things.

contratodo said:

So you must believe that Revelation 11 is very figurative. I don't say it has anything to do with second chances, just that it is real, rather literal not figurative, such that the devil has little option but to try and hide and mask the fact when those two prophets arrive.

The lake of fire is real, as you allude to, indeed some will go straight to it when they 'wake up' from death. But it is not some outerspace place or some other dimension. The wicked shall be turned into hell and all the nations that forget God. Psalm 9:17. The two prophets do the initial kindling of the lake of fire, literally, they will show and demonstrate that the Messiah also will literally breath divine fire.
And in that manner must anyone who hurts them be killed Revelation 11:5, the beast and false prophet indeed hurt them and therefore must be killed by the fire they start, and we know that the beast and false prophet are thrown into the lake of fire Revelation 19:20, these passages must both be true, and therefore also we clearly see that indeed it is the prophets that first kindle the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the result of this current world destroyed by divine fire. Started by the two prophets then the Messiah and then the Father sends down the final fire that destroys the sky land and sea Revelation 20:9- 21:1 2 Peter 3:8-12

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Everyone will have a first and only chance. If you believe that this is the only day of salvation but you have friends and loved ones who are not converted then you doom them. This is taking judgement too far, something you have no right to do. There will be a millennial reign of Christ in which people alive at that time will be given their own chance for salvation. Then at the second resurrection there will yet another group given their first and only chance of salvation. The kingdom of heaven is like leaven that a woman took and hid in three measures of meal until the whole was leavened. These are the three different times salvation will be offered to three different groups of people. I don’t think anyone here would agree with this but that’s OK.

Douggg said:

Matthew 24:
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

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What will happen when Jesus Returns is different to any previous event. The effects in verse 20, are heavenly, not on earth.

Ivan Hlavanda said:

Who had the the power to shut the sky and no rain fell? Elijah
Who turned water to blood and brought plagues? Moses

I have other reasons to believe it's them, but that would take a while.

What I am definitely sure of, is that they are 2 literal persons, and not a metaphor for the Church and Israel

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But the 2W will have the ability to cremate anyone who attacks them.
I do not believe they will be any resurrected person. they themselves will be resurrected when Jesus Returns. As will all the GT martyrs, Rev 20:4

DamianWarS said:

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Balanced & Reasonable​

“AI is just a tool, like a concordance, commentary, or Bible dictionary. Christians have always used tools to help study Scripture. What matters isn’t who helps you look something up, but whether the conclusions are tested against Scripture itself.”​

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Direct but Respectful​

“AI doesn’t replace the Holy Spirit or personal study. It simply gathers information quickly. If someone is grounded in Scripture, AI is no more dangerous than using a commentary from a pastor they’ve never met.”​

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Pointed / Reddit-style​

“Christians have been using non-inspired tools for centuries—Strong’s Concordance, lexicons, sermons, study Bibles, YouTube pastors. AI is just a faster index. The authority is still Scripture; the tool doesn’t change that.”​

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Historical Angle​

“The early church copied manuscripts, consulted teachers, and debated theology. Using tools to study the Bible is nothing new. Technology changes—interpretation standards don’t.”​

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If You Want a Slightly Snarky Version​

“So Christians shouldn’t use AI, but we can use Google, commentaries, sermons, and study Bibles written by fallible humans? The issue isn’t AI; the issue is discernment. Test everything, hold fast to what is good (1 Thess. 5:21).”​

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But AI is more than just summary. AI is to use fake voices, fake images, videos and what not. Christians use AI for prayers, teachings, sermons. Where is the authenticity? Where is the heart that God desires? We worship the Lord with new hearts of flesh, and not like machines. Prayers, sermons it's not about using beautiful words, but words from a heart that fears and love the Lord.

Yes, technology is just a tool. A good servant but a terrible god, it can become easily our idol. So in sense technology is not bad, but it is the way we use it. AI however, is much much worse.

We can have a discussion, but I want a discussion with a human being, not AI

Hans Blaster said:

Are you not middle-aged Australian?

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Yes and thats part of the problem. You assume certain demographiscs with certain beliefs and positions. Classic IP.

Hans Blaster said:

I had to build the most extreme caricature of an ignorant MAGA Trump superfan to come close to your dogmatic and uninformed presentation on the current US president. I was certainly not stereotyping American Trump supporters.

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What exactly about what I said was dogmatic.

Hans Blaster said:

Guests on "Lindell . tv" do not meet the normative definition of experts.

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What exactly was said that was not in line with the expert opinion. See this is where my lack of knowing what sources are stereotyped themselves. I just go by the content of what was said. If that happens to be a source you don't like thats not my problem.

The content is in line with the experts and that why I linked it. Purely on what was said and not where it came from. I don't care where it came from because the whole idea of certain sources being good or bad is itself a subject and often biased opinion.

Hans Blaster said:

The other posters? I could believe that you take the worst of their ideas and layer on your own ignorance of American politics, culture, and history.

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No not the other posters but the experts. That is where I am getting my information. Its not the worse or any subjective qualification. Its the facts.

Hans Blaster said:

Which is not America. (My HS classmates also got stuck fighting that war.)

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The point is you don't have to be an American to know American politics. You can know American politics from Americans who know American politics and then you use your senses to take that info in. I do understand english and what words mean lol.

When they say the evidence shows that massive fraud has been committed and show the evidence I can be informed. Then refer to that as counter evidence to someone who claimed that Trump was a fraudster. That they have no moral ground to stand on.

Hans Blaster said:

Than me wasn't the issue. It was your knowledge relative to the other conservative posters. I'd still put up their understanding of American reality over you any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

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Most of this is not about American or Australia or any nations politics. Its plain right and wrong. The moral truth, commonsense, reality, whatever you want to call it.

Hans Blaster said:

Real or not, it is irrelevant to the thread and THAT was my point.

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And my point was that this was a sub thread over moral hypocracy. About the same people that are morally outraged have double standards and thus bias.

From what I was seeing with people making all these extreme claims about Hegseth and TRump being murderers and commiting war crimes. That same old extreme narratives ike Kirk and Trump are Nazis ect. It was my point that these same people have been quiet happy to allow 10 times worse bad behaviour and have no moral leg to stand on.

This was also based on the fact that the language was implying guilt in doing something morally wrong without the intel. This showing a willingness to jump to the negative due to political bias and partisanship.

This was reality. I am am merely pointing this out. I have not said anything about the right or wrongness of the situation. Just pointing out howw the usual Trump haters are quick to jump the gun (pardon the pun) lol.

Hans Blaster said:

You were whingeing about anti-Christian bias related to criticism of Trump's policy/action which is rather silly as Trump is at best a nominal Christian. (And I understand the moral depravity of your position on narco boat killings.)

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I was not making a case for Trump being a Christian or that this is about Christ v non or Dems v Rep or Left v Right or anti immigration or anything.

I was simply using those examples of the hypocracy of how the Dems under Biden and Obama did all that they accuse Trump of and have no moral leg to stand on. That it was their now proven extreme bias that causes people not to trust a word they say.

So when people start jumping the gun again and making all these assumptions of guilt and extreme claims of war crimes its history repeating itself. So its right to point it out.

Hans Blaster said:

Are the Aussie commentators really that bad? (or just the ones on the "Fox News" of Australia.) (I am well aware that Ruprect Murdock is Australia's worst crime against America.)

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You can't help yourself can you. Doubling down now on IP. Us Aussies must be dumb, they could not possibly know anything. That bad old Fox News.

Did you notice at I mentioned that "even the Australian experts agreed". I said they were agreeing with the American experts

Hans Blaster said:

But how can you *know* what any poster's position on drone strikes by Obama or whatever was?

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It does not matter because everyone will pick a side and both sides are as bad as the other lol. But usually when people are so fixated on the opposition [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] political.

But even if its moral there are mmore than one position. So when someone starts claiming "shoulds" then we can say that they have jumped the gun because they don't have the facts. Thus exposing their bias in assuming a wrong for that particular situations when similar ones or other views are just as relevant.

Hans Blaster said:

You certainly don't know mine.

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If someone states that what happened is X and this should not have happened as its morally wrong. Then they are declaring their position. We can read a lot from the actual words that come out of peoples mouths lol. Its the most direct way of knowing what they think and believe.

Thats unless you think what people about a situation or themselves cannot be trusted.

Hans Blaster said:

Now please, let's go back to discussing the news item on the current sequence of drone strikes on drug boats off the coast of Venezuela

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Actually I am going to bow out. I don't see any point and I have said all I can say on the issue. It will be a continual back and forth of peoples subjective moral beliefs on the situation without the clear facts. Which are yet to come out.

Yarddog said:

We are not at war with Venezuela or drug traffickers

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Gene2memE said:

Misleading title is misleading.

It's not just Democrats that are having "existential meltdowns" about the vaccine schedule changes. It's pretty much the entirety of the US medical profession.

Statement from Leading Medical, Health and Patient Advocacy Groups on CDC Vaccine Meeting | ACP Online

Dec. 5, 20205— “We are deeply alarmed by the actions taken this week by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP). The apparent goal of this meeting was to sow doubt in vaccines rather than advance sound vaccine policy, and we will all...

www.acponline.org

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You repeated yourself.

Gene2memE said:

This is false. There are no EU/EEA countries that wait until five months to deliver Hepatitus B vaccines

Vaccine Scheduler | ECDC

Giving insight in the vaccine schedules in all countries of the EU, provided by the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC).

vaccine-schedule.ecdc.europa.eu

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Hm, your right, I think I was looking at Czechia wrong. But thanks for posting because looking even closer, i see Finland doesn't recommend or require it outside of at-risk infants, at all. Iceland doesn't either, and Hungary doesn't until age 12

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