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Bob Crowley · 2025-11-26T04:07:15-0600

The foot washing was an act of service. God, in the form of God the Son, stooped down and washed the dusty feet of His disciples.

At Easter Catholic priests do the same thing on Holy Thursday, in a ritual enactment of Christ's service.

Dan1988 · 2025-11-26T04:06:11-0600

contratodo said:
Why does God command all men everywhere to repent? Acts 17:30-31

I'm not rejecting anything. I'm keeping it all together, for instance 2 Timothy 2:20-21 which directly addresses Romans 9. What of that passage?

And there's more.
And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to me. John 12:32

And the whole idea that only some can be saved is fully refuted with simply just Acts 17:21-31 that is why I'll keep repeating it. It's not a matter of interpretation, Paul specifically says 'all men everywhere'.

So I'll ask again, why does God command all men everywhere to repent? Acts 17:30-31, you need to understand that if you give a different reason than Paul clearly gave, your wrong.

God doesn't command all men everywhere to repent for the reason you think He does. He's not selling salvation like some kind of hi pressure salesman selling inferior products, which the vast majority of mankind reject and treat Him like a fool.

No, God commands all men to repent, so they are without excuse, when they stand before Him on judgement day. God knows the vast majority of mankind will reject His command, because they hate Him and they are slaves to sin and Satan.

Every Word in the Bible is a matter of interpretation, and there is only one correct interpretation and only one Biblically correct systematic theology.
There are 49,000 Christian Denominations in 2025. Each of these has it's own interpretation, just as you have your own private interpretation, (which is not supported by the Bible) as I have already demonstrated.

You don't get to be the final authority on what Gods Word is saying. You're entitled to hold to your own private opinion, but please don't claim that your "keeping it all together" when I can see that your theology is inconsistent and incoherent.

Yusuphhai · 2025-11-26T03:55:41-0600

Unity

Apple Sky · 2025-11-26T03:36:32-0600

Strong in Him said:
If you/a loved one had a rare medical condition would you "look to science" - take the medication/raise money for a particular form of treatment/go for regular scans to show if it was getting worse? Or would you say "there is no Biblical support for those things - just do nothing and hope that I/my relative gets better on their own"?

But the Jehovah Witness's refuse to have a blood transfusion b/c of what the Bible says.

RamiC · 2025-11-26T03:31:36-0600

Dan1988 said:
I made the point that God is a mystery and we know very little about Him. I also made the point that God has deliberately hidden many things from us. I'm not sure why you didn't agree, and chose to reject those bible doctrines. You then attempted to apply unrelated verses, to support your unbiblical view.

This website might cover it,

"The Bible tells us that God reveals Himself to humans in four primary ways. All that God has created in nature discloses who He is. Our consciences (the human mind and heart) bear witness to the existence of God. He reveals Himself to us through His Word and the person of Jesus Christ. The first two ways that God reveals Himself to us are general and limited. But the second two avenues of revelation are personal, full, and complete."

Your post #638 says "If you seek to get into the mind of God, then you are guilty of practicing Witchcraft." Attempting to understand God is not the definition of witchcraft, reading the Bible and repenting of sin and using the Lord's Prayer are all entirely acceptable ways of reaching out to God, who most certainly does desire for us to understand him (while of course respecting the fact that He is God and we are not). None of those things are "witchcraft".

Trying to know the mind of God via witchcraft is wrong.

Your post #626 says "God never gave anybody a choice, you have no choice. There is no such thing as free will," as opposed to Billy Graham UK website, here - Which says "At the same time, the Bible does tell us two very important truths about Adam and Eve’s sin. First, it tells us that they were completely free to love God – or to reject Him. In other words, they weren’t robots! God’s warning was clear: “You must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die” (Genesis 2:17). So, the Bible says God did give the human race a choice, and right from the beginning of the human race. " (bolding mine).

Where you say "Nobody can escape Satan's grip on them, if God doesn't free the captive, then nothing else can.", also in post #626, I agree with you, but if we do choose to ask God to free us from Satan's power, He is going to free us from Satan's power, He told us how to pray...

“This, then, is how you should pray:

“‘Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
10 your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us today our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation,[a]
but deliver us from the evil one.[b]’

Matthew 6:9-13 NIV (Bolding mine).

Dan1988 said:
No, I don't "believe people can know the things that are revealed by the Holy Spirit". The things of God, are foolishness to "people". The Holy Spirit doesn't reveal anything to "people" He only reveals certain things to born again believers.

The "born again believers" are people. They do not cease to be people and become something else by becoming "born again", they are human beings. I do not believe that all are saved, but that the people who are, are people.

Dan1988 said:
You can't find out anything about God, unless you

If someone walks past a bit of graffiti that says "John 3-16" and then looks it up and starts to seek out what that means, that person made a pretty good start on finding something out about God. To get "regenerated" they need to start somewhere.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-26T03:27:23-0600

Larniavc said:
There is no such thing as free energy.

There could have been if Tesla's had gotten his own way.

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David Lamb · 2025-11-26T03:14:08-0600

prodromos said:
It says she AND HER HOUSEHOLD were baptized. The Scriptures only refer to Lydia's faith and make no mention of the faith of members of her household, yet clearly her household were baptized. You said you could not think of any mention of people being baptized in the NT where they were not a believer first. I've given two examples where no indication is given that the people being baptized were believers, only the head of the household.

But your examplers do not say that the other household members did not believe. I still say that I cannot think of a single reference to someone who is said in the bible to be an unbeliever being baptised.

prodromos said:
That is you adding to the passage. Paul doesn't say that.

No, not adding to the passage, but reading it in its context. Just a short few verses later, we read that the other household members had believed: "having believed in God with all his household,”

prodromos said:
In 1 Corinthians 7:14, Paul says, "For the unbelieving husband is consecrated through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is consecrated through her husband. Otherwise, your children would be unclean, but as it is they are holy."

So if the children of believing parents are holy, why would they not be joined to Christ in baptism? Jesus said, "Let the children come to me, and do not hinder them; for to such belongs the kingdom of God."

I don't believe that means that the unbelieving spouse necessarily is saved. As Jamieson, Faussett and Brown write in their commentary: "14. sanctified Those inseparably connected with the people of God are [hallowed] thereby, so that the latter may retain the connection without impairing their own sanctity (compare 1Ti 4:5); nay, rather imparting to the former externally some degree of their own hallowed character, and so preparing the way for the unbeliever becoming at last sanctified inwardly by faith."

linux.poet · 2025-11-26T02:51:28-0600

JohnC101 said:
Get a box/chest to put stuff up for the long term

This is actually a good suggestion, I’m getting a new wooden chest tomorrow to do just that. One of my current boxes is broken, so I will replace it with that and it will help.

As for the rest of it, I am slowly making progress.

linux.poet · 2025-11-26T02:28:18-0600

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Flaming and goading has ruined a perfectly good flat earth thread, again. Besides that, the post above me is right: you all are off topic discussing Tsarist bloodlines and Sweden, and thus you need to get back on topic in the next flat earth thread, which will no doubt be started soon.

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Larniavc · 2025-11-26T02:27:27-0600

RileyG said:
From his perspective, drag queens is perversion. There are no irrational fears. Men dressing up as women and acting provocatively? I say that's quite abnormal. It makes a mockery of women, imo.

It’s simply icky from your point of view; you don’t get to attribute your icky feelings as factual statements.

Guojing · 2025-11-26T02:26:07-0600

keras said:
The Christian people are the Overcomers for God,

keras said:
just as Jacob was.

keras said:
His name was changed to Israel

keras said:
Christians are therefore; the Israel of God.

Your reasoning above is as valid as the one below

A dog is a mammal
A cat is also a mammal.

Therefore a dog is a cat.

Larniavc · 2025-11-26T02:22:01-0600

Pepperdoodle said:
Where do you get from my comment that I'm referring to Trump at all?

The description from the first paragraph fits Mr Trump to a tee.

GodAndChocolateVanilla · 2025-11-26T02:12:56-0600

And I am going to try to eat healthier!! ^w^

I’ve started walking more since the Fall/Autumn weather started!! ^w^

Christsfreeservant · 2025-11-26T02:05:14-0600

“Therefore, since we have so great a cloud of witnesses surrounding us, let us also lay aside every encumbrance and the sin which so easily entangles us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.” (Hebrews 12:1-2 NASB1995)

When the Scriptures were originally written, they did not have chapters and verses. Those were added much later to help us readers navigate through the Scriptures and to be able to locate particular passages of Scripture. So, when you see a sentence begin with “therefore,” you should look back to see what it is there for, I have always been taught. So this is in reference to the saints of old who were commended for their faith in chapter 11. They did not all live perfect lives, but they all were honored for their faith at some time.

But lack of perfection is never to be used as an excuse for deliberate and habitual sin. We who believe in Jesus Christ were crucified with Christ in death to sin, and raised with Christ to walk in newness of life in him, no longer to live as slaves to sin, but as servants of righteousness in walks of obedience to our Lord’s commands. So we are to lay aside the deeds of the flesh and all hindrances to our walks of obedience to our Lord’s commands, and we are to die to sin daily, for sin must no longer be our practice.

And then we can “run with endurance the race that is set before us,” i.e. we can live according to God’s calling upon each of our lives to die to sin, to obey his commands, and to follow our Lord wherever he leads us in surrender to his will and purpose for our lives, all in his power and wisdom. We can live for our Lord in doing his will when, by faith in him, we put aside our former lives of living in sin so that we can now serve our Lord in obedience to his commands in being who he desires us to become.

But this is not something we can do in our own flesh of our own willpower. We can only live for our Lord as we surrender our lives to him and we depend upon his strength and wisdom to get us through every day. And if our eyes are fixed on Jesus, that means that our minds, hearts, and attitudes are centered in our Lord and in his will for our lives, and we are now following his leading in our lives, and we are no longer going our own way, doing our own thing, living for the pleasures of this sinful world.

For Jesus Christ is the author and the perfecter of our faith. Our faith is not of our human flesh, of our own willpower, and of our own thinking and reasoning. The faith to believe in Jesus comes from God, it is gifted to us by God, and it is persuaded of God as to his holiness and righteousness, and of our sinfulness, and of our need to die to sin and to walk in obedience to our Lord’s commands, in surrender to his will. So our faith will then align with God’s will and purpose for our lives, not in accord with our human flesh.

[Hebrews 12:1-2; Ephesians 2:8-10; John 1:12-13; John 6:44; Acts 26:18]

For Jesus Christ taught that to come to him we must deny self, take up our cross daily (die daily to sin), and follow (obey) him. For if we hold on to living in sin and for self, we will lose our lives for eternity. But if we deny self, die daily to sin, by the Spirit, and we walk in obedience to our Lord and to his commands, in his power, then we have eternal life with God. For not everyone who calls him “Lord” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one DOING (obeying) the will of God (see Luke 9:23-26; Matthew 7:21-23).

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

As the Deer

By Martin J. Nystrom
Based off Psalm 42:1

As the deer panteth for the water
So my soul longeth after You
You alone are my heart's desire
And I long to worship You

You alone are my strength, my shield
To You alone may my spirit yield
You alone are my heart's desire
And I long to worship You

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linux.poet · 2025-11-26T01:57:25-0600

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linux.poet · 2025-11-26T01:56:41-0600

Unqualified said:
do you actually want her to die and go to hell without at least giving her the gospel. no pressure. she must be thinking of it

My dad tried to evangelize her multiple times over the years with no luck. You can pray for witnessing opportunities for me and my brother if you want. I think we share the belief that people have inherent value, regardless of their behavior, and so if we are given opportunities, we will take them.

On the other hand, if she goes to hell, it's precisely what she deserves and I'm not going to have any regrets.

JSRG · 2025-11-26T01:20:25-0600

Vambram said:
Comey lied to Congress.

Maybe you can help the prosecution find the lie, because they seem to be struggling on that point:

The Situation: Where’s the Lie?

The government’s response to James Comey’s vindictive prosecution raises one very big and important question.

www.lawfaremedia.org

Here the specific text of the question Comey answered in his testimony matters a lot—for a number of reasons. Grassley asked Comey: “have you ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation” (emphasis added).

It is thus not adequate for proof that Comey made a false statement for the government to show that Richman interfaced with reporters on Comey’s behalf. That fact has never been a secret (Richman did much of this work in the open and on a named basis), and Comey has never denied it. In fact, it was Comey who dramatically announced Richman’s role in Senate testimony that the brief later quotes (see pages 10-11).

Rather, to prove that Comey lied, the government has to show (a) that Richman was “at the FBI” at the time; (b) that Comey “authorized” the press contact; (c) that he authorized Richman to do the contact anonymously; and (d) that the contact concerned the Trump or Clinton investigation.

The article then goes on to do what seems to me to be a very good job explaining how none of the things the prosecution tries to point to in their filing as evidence actually show the aforementioned things required to make Comey's statement false. So, where's the lie?

That said, once again, even if the government had the strongest evidence possible that Comey lied, that wouldn't have any effect on the question of whether Halligan's appointment was lawful.

Paidiske · 2025-11-26T00:43:51-0600

Honestly, between the ministry side of Christmas, and the domestic side of Christmas, writing Christmas cards is one thing I never seem to have time for. It becomes the thing that never makes it to the top of the to-do list.

HARK! · 2025-11-26T00:42:46-0600

NxNW said:
Not that you ever were.

I pay taxes.

NxNW said:
I'd feel better if DOGE had done something verifiably good.

Tax savings are good. Defunding propaganda is good.

David Lamb · 2025-11-26T00:36:35-0600

Lybrah said:
Well, everyone sings and there’s no music. I don’t like to sing, so I listen ir sing in my head. Then it’s like a RC where we get crackers and little wine things, and take “the Eucharist.” Then we sit through readings and the preacher comes on. I find the sermons to be pretty good but sometimes they have a Spanish guy there and they take turns where the preacher says a sentence and the Spanish guy translates.

Singing is music, so if everyone sings, there is music. Perhaps you meant that there is no instrumental accompaniment.

7thKeeper · 2025-11-26T00:35:50-0600

Always in His Presence said:
can you cite an example please?

There's also this case.

ChatGPT: US lawyer admits using AI for case research

The lawyer told the judge he did not know content from the artificial intelligence could be false.

www.bbc.com

I remember a few other stories where lawyers used ChatGPT or some other model to try and do their work faster and they got into hit water because the model produced references to cases that simply didn't exist.

rjs330 · 2025-11-26T00:25:15-0600

It all political theater. I wish everyone would knock it off and just get back to governing. Democrats and Republicans both.

lucypevensie · 2025-11-26T00:13:14-0600

Cool clean lemon cures colds.

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