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The Lord's Wrath - How will it Happen

it is not related to current state in Palestine.
Does what the Bible Prophets tell us, have no real meaning for you, or others here. Is it all just Spiritual?
The Prophecy in Zechariah 9:9 was really fulfilled. How can people say other Prophesies, obviously unfulfilled, but which can, feasibly be fulfilled; will not be?

The current situation in the Middle East, is untenable and cannot continue. God has said that He is going to resolve it. Jeremiah 12:14, +
I say: Bring it on Lord!
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Thorium Molten Salt Reactor (TMSR) -- China’s first-ever thorium fuel conversion paves way for 100MW molten-salt reactor

Experts have long viewed thorium reactors as the next leap in energy innovation. Some scientists estimate that a single thorium-rich mine in Inner Mongolia could theoretically supply China’s energy needs for tens of thousands of years with far less radioactive waste than current uranium-based reactors.
Having never studied physics, it took quite a few conversations to get my head around this tech.

THE CAMPFIRE
Nuclear waste does NOT have to be stored for 100,000 years. The only reason it is radioactive for so long is we have not got all the energy out of it. I’m no physicist and got the following metaphor from chatting with them. But after a regular uranium fuel rod has been in a reactor for about 18 months, it stops fissioning efficiently. It has not run out of energy, but instead is being stopped by ‘nuclear poisons’ - things that dampened the reaction. It’s a bit like a huge campfire that gets rained on. The fire is put out, but the fuel is still there. Only in this case, ‘drying out’ the ‘logs’ involves melting down the fuel rods, separating out the good ‘wood’, and then ‘drying’ it around the reactor core (where the fertile stuff can soak up extra neutrons to become fissile). As a result, breeder reactors can get something like 90 TIMES the energy out of each fuel rod! America has enough waste to run her for thousands of years.

There are many differences between standard fuel rods using uranium, and liquid thorium molten salt reactors - including RADICAL safety advantages. But one of them is my metaphor breaks down, because it's like the 'drying out the logs' process happens continually. They have the liquids in a self-cleaning loop in many models.

WHAT ABOUT THE ‘ASHES’ FROM THIS ‘CAMPFIRE?’
Some of the nuclear fuel is fissioned away into energy. (That’s what E = MC2 is all about.) By the time all the energy has been extracted this way, it’s only about a golf-ball of waste per human lifetime of abundant clean energy! Your whole life. One golf ball! That’s amazing!
So, what to do with the REAL waste - the broken atoms that cannot be fissioned any more?
We can melt it down into glass like ceramic tablets that contain it. (If there’s ever an earthquake or unanticipated event, we don’t want radioactive dust getting out into the water table, etc.) Bury these bricks in a bunker on site, and in about 300 years they are safe! The hotter it is, the faster it burns out. See this Argonne Labs video - 4 minutes. Login to view embedded media
Not only this, but they can also supply many medical radioactive isotopes useful for nuclear medicine.
It's an amazing technology. But they're going to have to work hard to bring the cost down, because solar panels are expected to halve in price AGAIN by 2030!
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Sin and the Crucifixion were all predestined

your argument implies God as being one Person, when He is one God abiding in Three persons,
God is revealed to us in three persons, but all are still one God.
This is from earlier in that same post. I do not believe God to be one person. That makes no sense. I believe God to be one God revealed to us in three persons. I think you may have miss read.

If I believe in the Holy Spirit, do I not also believe in God? Same with Jesus. If I believe in Jesus, am I not also believing in God?
In declaring that no one comes to the Father except through Him, Christ is declaring the doctrine of the Incarnation - that through Him, the Father, who is invisible, has made Himself visible, in the Prosopon of His only begotten Son and Word, who, in putting on our human form, remade us in His image on the Cross, and demonstrated God’s willingness to die to save humanity.
Maybe I am miss reading this, but this statement tells me that Christ, putting on our human form, was still God dying to save humanity.
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nessie and cryptozoology

There is a series called Drain the Oceans, in which they use sonar and other high resolution imagery to investigate oceanic and sea-related mysteries. Bermuda Triangle, shipwrecks, etc. The Nessie episode discusses how the waves can create an optical illusion under some circumstances, that resembles a creature on the water. The famous photo is now known to be a hoax.
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I hate being homosexual. It's an awful life

God didn't make you gay, life in a sinful world created the cocktail of early developmental factors that inclined you towards homosexuality and the accumulation of your choices solidified that inclination. Sexuality isn't as rigid as homosexual activists claim it to be, so there is hope that through making the right choices and continued prayer you can be set free of the trap.
Well said, bro. It is remarkable to me how modern representatives of Romans 1 have taken over the seat of authority.

They are actually teaching pubescent (and even prepubescent) teens that the feelings they get that seem occasionally at odds with their plumbing indicates that their plumbing is at fault. Not so! Wayward urges of hormones are not indicative of anything but wayward urges of hormones.

The body is constantly being trained, but the older one gets, the more difficult it is to change habits of thinking and behavior. But the Grace of God is amazing.

For what it is worth, @Creativeguy , pursuing Christ ("come unto me and learn of me") can be simultaneously the most joyful and miserable thing! He will never forsake you. But you will learn of his incomprehensible grace in the face of the depravity of "the flesh". And re-learn again and again that what Jesus said is not hyperbole: "Apart from me you can do nothing". He is not a mere co-pilot but the very reason for your existence and the means by which your existence continues. Your life belongs to him, and not yourself.

Pray for relief. Pray without ceasing.
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MARK OF THE BEAST - REVELATION 13-14; 17; 18

Hi eclipsenow,

John`s audience is all those who read, hear and keep the words of this prophecy. (Rev. 1: 3)

`soon, speedily, take place. Fine. That is what we see. The Lord reveals Himself to John and the rest follows on. However, are you trying to tell me that everything in Revelation has happened?


Rev. 1: 9 `I John, both your brother and companion in tribulation.....` (NKJ) I don`t see any `the.`

The book is about JESUS as is ALL of God`s word. To make it about US is to diminish the great work and person of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
It's a sermon on suffering, so of COURSE it reminds his audience that one day the Lord will return.
The problem for those that want to read it as a future timetable is this happens many times in the book!
EG: The Lord returns at the end of Chapter 6! And there's a triplicate return in 19, 20, 21 - from different 'camera eye' views.
It has the gospel events dressed up in picture language.

It's too all Christians across all time, reminding us that if our governments turn on us - to trust in the Lord with great patience. We're also warned not to be seduced by the wealth of our nations, and trust in those. (Rev 13 has the mark has an alternative Shema prayer to money and the state, rather than God.)

So once again.

IF I gave you a 'prophecy' about a battle on Mars in the year 4000 AD and said "OBEY IT!" - wouldn't that be nonsensical?

John is trying to identify with his mission field. Trying to comfort brothers and sisters in Christ.
And futurists think he's raving about thousands of years in the future for the majority of the book?
It just doesn't add up!

"Toughen up princess - you've got nothing to worry about! Wait till you see what happens in 2000 years!"

:doh: :doh:
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Time limits with Lock Me Out not fully resolving addiction to my phone

I set time limits on texting and other apps with the Lock Me Out app on Android, and some of the time it has not been effective. Like yesterday when I had a 10 minute time limit on texting, but I still ended up being glued to the phone and not able to put it down for a long time. When I was glued to the phone, I felt like there was a lot less to do on the phone so I was using the phone cut off from the activity I love, and really not liking it. If I have much more of these experiences feeling stuck on a phone and feeling severely limited in not being able to text friends, I might disable the time limit on texting and just use Lock Me Out for limiting or blocking other apps like social media. I might even disable the time limit on texting soon.

For controlling my addiction to my phone I turn the phone's power off before/when I get home, but not always consistently. It seems like this may be a more effective barrier to texting or my phone addiction because I cannot as easily grab the phone and immediately spend time on it, and I may decide to keep it off for my own good and to be able to get more tasks done. I have a landline and cell plan on my Galaxy Watch so I can still receive urgent calls from my mom if she has a pressing need to call me.

With my smartphone addiction, I also have weird behavior of wanting to get in bed in with my phone. Previously, I loved to just get in bed and text friends and found it really relaxing. Now with a time limit in place if I get in bed with the phone, I may spend some time browsing the Google Discover Feed, or scroll through YouTube to see what is there, but yesterday I kind of ran out of stuff to do on the phone, so I just put the phone aside and laid there.

With the time limits in place, it would be super productive if I opened the Bible app and worked on memorizing Bible verses. I did that once with these new limits, but a lot of times I have not.
You sound like this is surprising to you. If it is an addiction, controlling it is like controlling any other addiction.

My job requires me to be available 24 hrs if only to answer texts troubleshooting equipment over the phone, with customers all over the world. Truth is that most nights I can sleep without interruption, but the phone is by me in bed. If I can't sleep, I might actually watch a few police chases on TikTok, and about 3 hrs later realize it's already time to get up. If that is wrong for me to do, rather than just inconvenient to my productivity and state of mind, I shouldn't do it. Simple as that.

I like to drink beer, I like to have a buzz, but I don't do it all day, because it is harmful to my life. I don't get drunk every night to be able to sleep because I need to be available to answer the phone coherently. "Because" can be a strong motivator.

I'm not going to tell you I'm addicted to my phone, nor eating, nor anything else, because in the end it is like sin or any other pursuit. In the end, we always choose what we most want to do at that instant of choice, even if it has become automatic.

I expect I don't need to tell you what happens when you pursue Christ, and find yourself desperately needing him, and seeing the weakness, stupidity and self-indulgence of the flesh, and his continuing patience in demonstrating to you repeatedly that apart from him you can do nothing.

The Grace of God can be overwhelming.
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Pope Leo says he opposes open borders, blasts Trump's deportation of illegal immigrants

Pope Leo XIV is defending the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops’ message opposing what he characterized as the “extremely disrespectful” treatment of illegal immigrants being deported by the Trump administration. His comments come as border czar Tom Homan continues to defend the federal government’s actions and reiterate earlier allegations of hypocrisy by the Catholic Church.

In response to reporters seeking his comment on the USCCB’s “Special Message” on immigration Tuesday, the pontiff said, “We have to look for ways of treating people humanely, treating people with the dignity that they have.”

“If people are in the United States illegally, there are ways to treat that. There are courts; there’s a system of justice. I think there are a lot of problems in the system. No one has said that the United States should have open borders. I think every country has a right to determine who and how and when people enter,” he stressed.

Continued below.
No open has called for open borders. That is just a right wing lie. The Pope understands and he knows that Trump lies, especially about immigrants.
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"Don't Give up the Ship"

President Trump has never issued an illegal order to the military.
And yet his use of the National Guard is before the Supreme Court, and he's having the military blow up anonymous, unidentified boats off the coast of Venezuela.

I've served. I've had the legal command lectures. It's not hard!

Disobey un-lawful commands.

Did poor Mr Trump read this too late and not register the "un" bit? Unlawful?

It's just embarrassing to watch him melt down every 5 minutes over some perceived sleight to his NPD
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Coast guard and hate symbols

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/11/20/coast-guard-swastika-noose/

For some reason a nazi symbol can manage to not be considered hate speech....just "potentially divisive". This seems to speak to the ideologies this administration are happy to empower. Getting angry at posters for being critical of Israel I'd expect some posters will be quite upset to hear this is happenning in your navy.

And ditto for nooses and confederate flags (though their display is still banned).

What kind of coast guard Commandant would allow this? Glad you asked.

Admiral Kevin Lunday
Wow. How can that be?
Well as per a smart person than me:
This role requires senate approval. If you do not put forward a candidate, there is an unconfirmed interim leader.
So the Admiral leading the navy does not have senate confirmation, and has been leading the navy in an interim capacity since inauguration with no replacement in sight.
This was actually detailed in project 2025 as a way to have sycophants installed without the need for Senate approvals.
The article is behind a paywall but the Navy and the Coast Guard are separate entities
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What happens if someone dies before they became a believer, is it their fault?

Mark Quayle said:
Can you demonstrate that anything can happen besides what does happen? Can you demonstrate the actual possibility of other options? Or is that only in our thinking? When God demands that we choose, do we not always only choose the one option? Was God not aware of those decisions before creating, but went ahead and created anyway? Well, then! He INTENDED it to be decided the way it was

CORRECT enough! That's why I asked it. Can you do it? Can you prove that "apparent" free will choices (or any other choice) could have gone a different way? You will say, "of course!", but you can't do it. You will provide some statement you consider axiomatic, but is not, like, "God would not demand what you cannot obey".

Mark Quayle said:
Otherwise, you need to demonstrate that {actual "chance" can determine outcomes}. The notion is by definition self-contradictory. But your whole construction depends on it.

You are defining justice according to the creature's ability to do what he is commanded to do. Sorry, but the command does not imply the ability to obey— it only implies the responsibility to obey. God is not unjust to create beings who will pay for their rebellion, as intended. He is making use of them for his Glory, to demonstrate his love and mercy to the objects of his mercy—us.


Can you demonstrate that actual "chance" can determine outcomes? Or do you first need me to demonstrate how your notion of free will implies chance determining outcomes?
You seem to completely miss his objection, which is that you are engaged in a special pleading argument by demanding your opponent meet a standard you yourself cannot.
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The goal of Christianity in 'Not' to stop sinning!

The goal of Christianity is to know God. This is something you could spend ten lifetimes in pursuit of and still have barely scratched the surface of everything there is to know about God.

It amazes me the amount of wasted time and energy people put towards this goal of sinning less and ultimately, not sinning at all. Does anyone read the bible for what it actually says, or does everyone read it for what they've been told it says?

If I was to ask you; do you identify as your sinful nature, or do you identify as the good you want to do but struggle with a sinful nature, which would best describe you? Most likely it will be the later of the two. You are the good you want to do but struggle with a sinful nature. Which would align you with what Paul talked about in Rom 7:14-20.
Now say by the power of grey skull, I snap my fingers and suddenly you no longer have a sinful nature. Will you continue to do the evil you do not want to do, or will you only do the good you so desire to do? Obviously, the good you desire to do is all that you are going to do.
Okay then, in your pursuit to stop sinning, what is it you are trying so hard to improve on? The good you already desire to do, or the sinful nature?

The good you desire to do clearly needs no improvement since it already desires to do good. The sinful nature, on the other hand, cannot be improved on. Scripture is vividly clear on this. If it could be improved on, then Paul would not have wrote what he wrote in Rom 7, and the Gospel wouldn't have been necessary.

Before you try and tell me Paul is speaking of before he was saved... this is the real world, not some fantasy. At what point, before you were saved, did you ever struggle between doing the good that God desires you to do and doing evil? The truth is you didn't. You simply did whatever felt good to you in the moment.

Before salvation we are spiritually dead, separated from God. Without spiritual life, there is no desire to do the will of God. Without spiritual life, the desires of the flesh are what rules us. We have no desire, what so ever, to do the will of God. After receiving new life (spiritual life), that is when we are suddenly presented with a dilemma. To now do the will of God.
This new dilemma is the very struggle Paul talks about. And the reason Paul talks about it is to make it clear to his readers that the very idea that we can stop sinning is ridiculous. He states very clearly that sin resides in the flesh. Unless you live in the fantasy world I mentioned earlier, until the day you die, you will remain in the flesh. The flesh is corrupt as a result of sin. And until our corrupted flesh is destroyed, and we are given new non corrupted bodies, this struggle will remain.

The time and energy put towards the goal of sinning less and ultimately not sinning at all, is misplaced, misleading, and ultimately leads us back into the bondage of sin. That time and energy should be put towards getting to know more of God. The logic is simple, if you are doing what you are supposed to be doing, you wont be doing what you aren't to be doing. The more of God you know, the more of God is revealed through you, and naturally, the less you will sin. No effort, no fuss, no worries.

On the contrary, we should aim to confront the sinful passions and tame them for the glory of God. Christ commanded us to be perfect even as the Father is perfect (Christ is also perfect, but put on our human nature in order to perfect and glorify it on the Cross, thus he was, in this case as with Baptism, the first to do that which He commanded us to continue doing, that is, to be baptized by water and spirit and thus participate in His Baptism in the Jordan, and to put to death our mortal nature, corrupted by the passions so as to put on incorruption.

This is why St. Paul stresses the importance of asceticism, likening the way to running a race. Also I would note that this is not works righteousness; without the grace of the Holy Spirit acquired through faith, this process of Theosis , or as John Wesley translated it, entire sanctification, becomes impossible.

But since St. Athanasius not only led the Nicene Council which produced the first version of our Creed and rejected the heresy of Arius, but also compiled our 27 book New Testament canon, we ought to pay attention when he writes that God became man so that man could become god, that is to say, that we might by grace become what Christ is by nature.

This is not to say all will conquer sin in this life, but some have, and in the case of the Theotokos, she never sinned at all, although having been born under the shadow of ancestral sin, still required salvation through her Son, which she of course received as the early church attested.
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Man who was arrested 49 times faces federal terrorism charges for allegedly setting woman on fire on Blue Line train in Chicago

Reed has a long criminal record. CBS News Chicago found 49 arrests — including 10 felony cases. Three cases were later dropped, six ended up with convictions ranging from probation to 30 days in the Cook County Jail — and in the case of one drug conviction from 2003, two years in Illinois state prison.
Among them was an active aggravated battery case from just this past August.
In that incident, Reed is accused of hitting a social worker at MacNeal Hospital Psychiatry and Behavioral Health in west suburban Berwyn. The attack caused loss of consciousness, ER visits, lasting memory issues, headaches, and daily nausea for the social worker, the Cook County State's Attorney's office said at the time.

They still don't get it.

The Reality of Free Will

That is precisely what Paul states:

Adam was not the one deceived, it was the woman who was deceived (1 Tim 2:14).
Adam chose to sin with her.
Because Adam wasn’t deceived and Eve was is proof of free will because if there was no free will their response would have been the same. It shows a difference in wills between Adam and Eve. Why is it so difficult to see that both Adam and Eve did not acquire the knowledge of good and evil until Adam ate the forbidden fruit ? In order to sin you must have the knowledge of good and evil and do the evil instead of the good. James 4:17 Adams sin was unique because it determined the course of humanity our sins do not. Today every man dies for his own sin. Adam and Eve at their creation were not innocent of sin because they were righteous but because they were ignorant.
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Do you keep the Sabbath? (poll)

1 Cor 7:19 when studied with Gal 5:6 and Gal 6:15 show us mirror versions. All address circumcision as nothing and contrast it with "what counts" and all written by Paul. The "what counts" part is not 3 separate things, it's all the same thing. This reveals to us what Paul means by "commandments of God" in 1 Cor 7:19 since it is the same thing as "faith expressed through love" in Gal 5:6 and "the new creation" in 6:15. When viewed together they move away from old covenant laws and point to values of faith and love in the new covenant under Christ. In these verses, it seems Paul is contrasting the old (circumcision) with the new (new creation). You could say circumcision is a reference to in Christ we are neither circumcised/uncircumcised but I don't think that changes the outcome of what counts. What counts still is a forward direction to Christ over a backwards to the law.
The Scriptures do not say the the commandments of God are redefined. When something is used interchangeably it means it works backwards and forwards, not just the one we like based on our own definition of it. The commandments of God are just that Exo20:6 Deut4:13 who better to define God’s commandments than God Himself- He did and literally wrote them out. Jesus never changed them- He promised He would not Psa89:34 Mat5:18-30 , Mat15:3-14 Mat7:7-13 Mat19:17-19 since He is the One speaking them, the only thing we should do is just believe. That’s what faith is all about. The commandments of God are kept by faith and faith is keeping the commandments of God. It works forwards and backwards not changing the definition that God gave.
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Are the Jews Israel, or is the church Israel? Or does it depend on the context of the passage?

The text does not say that the good olive tree is Israel.

The good olive tree is people who believe God and are saved. Not any particular nation.

I think the part where Paul was describing gentiles in Romans 11:13-24, he was describing gentiles, not in the "but now" but rather in the "age to come".

In the "but now" time period, which is today, we are saved thru faith alone without works by being in the Body of Christ, thus we cannot be cut off after, nor do we need to be part of Israel to be saved.

In the "age to come", gentiles will once again need to be saved by being part of Israel, the olive tree, so it will once again requires faith and works, so not doing works will result in being cut off.

So based on this reasoning, the olive tree can indeed represent true Israel, which is not us the Body of Christ.
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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

I mean, when He told us to "love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you", of course we were all supposed to understand that, all the while, the One who commanded us to love our enemies is planning to torture His enemies alive for eternity. >_>
As many who live under the oppression of bullies would one day hope for their oppressors, failing to understand that those bullies were the product of whatever made them that way, and in seeking revenge, the victim has also become the bully
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