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Always in His Presence · 2025-12-11T21:28:55-0600

concretecamper said:
Umm, read the Bible

Gal 3:26 For you are all the children of God, by faith in Christ Jesus.
3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized in Christ have put on Christ.

Still did not answer the question.

essentialsaltes · 2025-12-11T21:27:20-0600

The deeply personal reasons why many Indiana Senate Republicans said no to Trump

Jean Leising spoke at a breakfast this fall at her 8th grade grandson’s school. Hours later, when she was set to give him a ride home from basketball practice, he bashfully told her that his entire team had received text messages about her that day — “and they were all bad.”

“Boy, when I got home that night, that’s when I decided,” said Leising, a 76-year-old grandmother of eight, first elected to the Senate in 1988. “I was angry. So the next day, I said, ‘I’ve got to talk about this.’ Because this is over the top. This shouldn’t be the way it was.”

“But that was the beginning,” she added. “It only got worse from there.”

It was clear on Thursday that a pressure campaign waged by the White House and its allies had backfired.

“You wouldn’t change minds by being mean. And the efforts were mean-spirited from the get-go,” she said. “If you were wanting to change votes, you would probably try to explain why we should be doing this, in a positive way. That never happened, so, you know, I think they get what they get.”

“Hoosiers are a hardy lot, and they don’t like to be threatened. They don’t like to be intimidated. They don’t like to be bullied in any fashion. And I think a lot of them responded with, ‘That isn’t going to work,’” [another senator] Glick said. “And it didn’t.”

2PhiloVoid · 2025-12-11T21:26:03-0600

ladodgers6 said:
Okay, I want to be fair. Please, state your position.

You want me to state my position on what exactly? The tangential direction that Dan has taken this little thread isn't clear to me. He's injected the extra topic about 'Truth' and seems to think that simply citing a Bible verse somehow comprehensively establishes and explains any and all that might be addressed in regard to the concept of "truth" in all it's possible references.

We all know that Jesus said He is the Truth, the Life and the Way. We're all Trinitarian Christians here and no one is contravening Jesus' statement of God's Truth here.

Hans Blaster · 2025-12-11T21:24:47-0600

stevevw said:
OK materialism. The belief in an only material or physical epistemics and by extention ontology that fundemental reality is only material in nature.

"Materialism" is also not relevant to this thread.

stevevw said:
And I gave you the logical arguement that under this same belief the (physical effects) of all spiritual phenomena and knowledge including miracles and Gods creation are unreal.

Not relevant.

stevevw said:
That in itself is a belief and not science. Therefore the possibility that the physical effects found could have come from a similar kind of knowledge. That something in this alternative knowledge which also may occupy the same realm as the supernatural effects of miracles because it comes from within the same realm as the spiritual or transcedent beliefs and experiences of the ancients.

Its the logical possibility based on the same logic that I am argueing. Remembering that this is spectualting how the effects happened. Science does not tell us the why or how. Just the what. Just describing the effects.

If you want to talk about ancient religion, spiritual beliefs, or such, go find a better place for it. This ain't it.

stevevw said:
No Woo or psuedoscience has been referreed to many times on this thread by skeptics to account for everything that is being claimed as alternative and advanced knowledge. Its the skeptics favorite persecution tool over those who believe in alternative knowledge.

You bring up the word "woo" before we do, overall in this thread, in your discussions with me in this thread, and virtually every other time it comes up on this 1500-post thread it is *you* that brings up "woo", usually while complaining that we are calling your claims "woo".

stevevw said:
Hum enough to spend weeks if not years in an almost religious fashion to promote your belief and expose others showing that their beliefs equate to some YT video.

What belief is that? This statement make no sense. This thread isn't about my beliefs and I have no interest in discussing them.

stevevw said:
Give me a break. Maths often forms the basis for theories that have yet to be verified. yet they are believed and promoted as though they are fact.

I'm not sure what universe you are getting this from. It isn't anyone that I've been to.

stevevw said:
A universe of nothingness
There is no charge in the universe, and no energy. Mathematics is the key to understanding how something spring forth from this nothing, and is the thread from which the fabric of reality is woven.

A universe of nothingness | Peter Atkins » IAI TV

The mathematical fabric of reality

iai.tv

Ahh, the philosophical noodlings of a chemist. No thanks.

stevevw said:
What is the dogma I have said exactly. Are you saying the mere claim that there is lost alternative and advanced knowledge is dogma. That persisting with this belief for 1,000s of years is dogma.

The bits about "transcendental knowledge" and the attacks on philosophical naturalism, etc., etc., etc.

stevevw said:
So how do we give that if the knowledge exists outside the facts and physical plausibility. You can't just dismiss it because it does not meet your beliefs in a physical ontology. You can't then force your epistemics onto others who disagree and believe the complete opposite.

Of what use is "knowledge outside the facts"? you're not making sense.

stevevw said:
This stels back to the dogmatic way the scientific material worldview has been forced over everyone. To the point where just expressing alternative knowledge is dogmatically dismissed as make believe and unreal. The demand to prove this by material science is the dogma.

You don't have to create threads in the physical science section. That one is on you.

stevevw said:
There you go you just literally proved my point. Any belief or claim about alternative knowledge is dismissed and made irrelevant. So how can we even prove it if its already dogmatically dismissed.

Nope, that's just what your failed reading comprehension erroneously concluded. Let me state it even more clearly: If you have evidence you don't need belief. (Because evidence is better than belief every time.)

stevevw said:
According to this belief all belief in religious knowledge including the bible is irrelevant to how the world is, what is true knowledge. What if the bible is right and this physical world is but an illusion that will pass away. That God created life, not from a physical ontology but whatever it is that God is.

Are you running Pascal's wager? Seriously, that's a loosing hand every time.

stevevw said:
Is this the hill you are going to die on.

That evidence is better belief? That hill? Yes, absolutely! I will stand proudly on that hill (and twice on Sunday) and anyone who puts belief over fact and evidence is a fool.

PloverWing · 2025-12-11T21:19:38-0600

Suppose Netflix (and similar streaming services) had a more detailed rating system, so instead of just an age, there was some content description, and there was a way to select/screen based on some of these descriptions. "Contains LGBTQ content." "Contains depictions of smoking." "Contains depictions of religious observance" (maybe listing which religion). "Contains teenage romance", etc. Then parents could select for or screen out topics they want their children to be able to see. Would that solution satisfy the CWA folks?

I note that the content that one family might seek out is content that another family might wish to avoid. Surely a computer program could be written to let viewers select content in this way.

keras · 2025-12-11T21:19:22-0600

truthuprootsevil said:
People who are in the area of ground zero will be vaporized.

Zachariah is not speaking of radiation sickness he is speaking of instant death.

Sure, in an area of many sq miles. The area of say: a city. But basically localized.
The Lord will not use nukes because of the radiation pollution.
Note that a nuke war in the Northern hemisphere, would not directly affect the earths Southern hemisphere. The Equatorial Divide keeps the weather patterns separate.

The idea of a nuke war soon is wrong, as what the Prophets say; simply does not relate to that. Even the rotting of people still standing, can be explained by the microwaves emitted from the sun, as I have shown in #32. As Deuteronomy 32:22 confirms.

Michie · 2025-12-11T21:17:14-0600

President Donald Trump said he remains open to meeting with Pope Leo XIV and insisted he wasn't aware of the pontiff's comments expressing disagreement with his immigration policies.

In an interview with Trump broadcast on Tuesday, Politico’s Dasha Burns asked the president to weigh in on the pope's characterization of his immigration policies as “inhumane.” Trump insisted he hadn't heard the comments before launching into a defense of his policies to combat illegal immigration that went largely unenforced under his predecessor, former President Joe Biden.

“I haven’t heard any statements from the pope,” he said. “I’m sure he’s a lovely man. His brother’s a lovely man.”

Continued below.

Trump willing to meet with Pope Leo, responds to Catholic leader's criticism of immigration policies

President Donald Trump said he remains open to meeting with Pope Leo XIV and insisted he wasn t aware of the pontiff s comments expressing disagreement with his immigration policies

www.christianpost.com

samaus123456789 · 2025-12-11T21:13:14-0600

⭐ 1. Revelation itself IDENTIFIES the city that kills the prophets
⭐ Revelation 11:8 “The great city… where also their Lord was crucified. It is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt.” Only one city qualifies: Jerusalem. The phrase “where their Lord was crucified” is geographically specific.

⭐ 2. Only Jerusalem is the city that kills prophets (Jesus’ own words)
⭐ Matthew 23:37 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you…”
⭐ Luke 13:33 “It cannot be that a prophet perish outside of Jerusalem.” Revelation 18 says of Mystery Babylon:
⭐ Revelation 18:24 “In her was found the blood of prophets and of saints…” Jesus says prophets are killed in Jerusalem. Revelation says prophets are killed in Babylon. Therefore → The city = Jerusalem. No other city in the Bible kills prophets.

⭐ 3. Jerusalem is repeatedly called a HARLOT in the Old Testament Revelation 17 calls Mystery Babylon “the great harlot.” So does the OT, referring to Jerusalem:
⭐ Isaiah 1:21 “How the faithful city has become a harlot!” This is the same accusation Revelation makes.
⭐ Ezekiel 16:15 “You trusted in your beauty and played the harlot…”
⭐ Ezekiel 16:26 “You committed harlotry with the Egyptians…”
⭐ Ezekiel 16:28 “You played the harlot with Assyria…”
⭐ Ezekiel 23:1–49 Jerusalem (“Oholibah”) and Samaria (“Oholah”) are called: “harlots” “adulteresses” women committing fornication with foreign nations This is near-identical language to Revelation 17. Thus, long before Revelation, Jerusalem = Harlot City in prophecy.

⭐ 4. Jerusalem is called SODOM — same as Mystery Babylon Revelation 11:8 identifies the great city as: Sodom Egypt The OT also calls Jerusalem Sodom:
⭐ Isaiah 1:10 “Hear the word of the LORD, you rulers of Sodom… you people of Gomorrah!”
⭐ Ezekiel 16:46–55 Jerusalem compared to Sodom repeatedly. Jerusalem is spiritually: Sodom Gomorrah Revelation uses the SAME labels.

⭐ 5. Jerusalem is called EGYPT — same as Mystery Babylon Revelation 11:8 explicitly says Jerusalem is Egypt spiritually. The OT establishes this pattern:
⭐ Hosea 11:5 “He shall return to Egypt…” (Israel’s judgment)
⭐ Deuteronomy 28:68 Israel will be sent “back to Egypt” in judgment. Thus, “Egypt” is a Bible nickname for apostate Israel/Jerusalem.

⭐ Jeremiah 25:11–12 The nations drinking the cup of wrath includes Jerusalem first (Jer 25:18), just as Babylon brings wrath to the nations. Jerusalem becomes like Babylon when judged.

⭐ 7. Revelation’s description of the “Great City” matches Jerusalem, not Rome (a) The city where Jesus was crucified Only Jerusalem (Rev. 11:8) (b) The city that kills prophets Only Jerusalem (Matt. 23:37; Rev. 18:24) (c) The city drunk with blood of saints Jerusalem repeatedly killed the righteous (Matt. 23:35). (d) The harlot imagery OT consistently uses this language for Jerusalem (Isa 1; Ezek 16; 23).

⭐ 8. Additional OT parallels between Jerusalem and Mystery Babylon
⭐ Jeremiah 6:6 “This is the city to be visited… wickedness is found in her.”
⭐ Jeremiah 13:27 “Your adulteries, your neighings… I have seen your abominations, O Jerusalem.”
⭐ Lamentations 1–2 (especially 1:8–9, 1:17) Jerusalem’s fall described with language similar to Revelation 18.
⭐ Micah 3:9–12 In the 500s BC Jerusalem is judged, destroyed, and burned → parallel to Rev. 17–18.

Note Revelation 1-12 happened 70 AD, and Jerusalem was called Sodom, and Egypt then. When it is judged again in the future it is called mystery Babylon. Revelation 13-22 is still future.

Revelation 17 2
2 With her the kings of the earth committed adultery, and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries.”

Revelation 18

9 “When the kings of the earth who committed adultery with her and shared her luxury see the smoke of her burning, they will weep and mourn over her. 10 Terrified at her torment, they will stand far off and cry:
“‘Woe! Woe to you, great city,
you mighty city of Babylon!
In one hour your doom has come!’

The kings of the earth - all the political leaders in the world- go to Jerusalem to worship satan at the brick wall which is committing spiritual fornication/adultery - so they can get money from the people that say they are Jews but lie they are the synagogue of satan (SOS) as they own the worlds banking systems. Notice the people are calling the city Babylon- it is no longer a metaphor at that point in time- conclusion- Jerusalem will be renamed BABYLON by the SOS themselves. The reason is they like the tower of Babel concept

Genesis 11 4
Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.”

Zionism for the SOS is the same concept- they say let us make a country for ourselves in Palestine which is where ancient Israel was, and a name for ourselves- "Israel", and let us not be scattered among the nations because of what happened to us in 70 AD. We can trick people into believing we are old covenant Israel (which actually ended with Jesus, then 70 AD never to return again). Also they like the name Babylon because in Daniels Babylon everyone had to worship a golden statue or die just like when the SOS messiah comes everyone will have to worship their messiah or die. Revelation 13 mark of the beast is the hexagram.

Revelation 17 4
4 The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries

Which is what the Levites wore in Exodus 39- Leviticus 2

Exodus 39
39 And of the blue, and purple, and scarlet, they made cloths of service, to do service in the holy place, and made the holy garments for Aaron; as the Lord commanded Moses.
2 And he made the ephod of gold, blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen.
3 And they did beat the gold into thin plates, and cut it into wires, to work it in the blue, and in the purple, and in the scarlet, and in the fine linen, with cunning work.
4 They made shoulder pieces for it, to couple it together: by the two edges was it coupled together.
5 And the curious girdle of his ephod, that was upon it, was of the same, according to the work thereof; of gold, blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen; as the Lord commanded Moses.
6 And they wrought onyx stones inclosed in ouches of gold, graven, as signets are graven, with the names of the children of Israel.
7 And he put them on the shoulders of the ephod, that they should be stones for a memorial to the children of Israel; as the Lord commanded Moses.

The church is the third temple the Israel of God born in a day on Pentecost, and believers body has the spirit of God in it but maybe the SOS will build a replica temple of the OT to worship satan in.

Revelation 17
8 The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction.

That could be referring to OT Solomonic Israel when it was at its peak but was not in the first century but will be restored to that (and more).

So Jerusalem will be world capital one day. A huge trade city like New York or London or Sydney or Hong Kong etc. But God will destroy it forever never to return again.
The new Jerusalem is the promise land now

Most of these prophecies were about either the Babylonian, Maccabean or 70 AD judgment on Jerusalem.

⭐ PART 1 — OLD JERUSALEM: THE CITY IN SIN / UNDER JUDGMENT

These verses describe the current/old Jerusalem as:

harlot
unfaithful
judged
destroyed
not God’s final dwelling place

Isaiah 1:21

“How the faithful city has become a harlot!”

Isaiah 3:8

“Jerusalem is ruined, Judah has fallen…”

Isaiah 29:1–4

Jerusalem (Ariel) will be:

besieged
humbled
brought low

Jeremiah 4:14–18

“O Jerusalem… your wickedness”
Judgment is coming.

Jeremiah 6:6

“This is the city to be punished…”

Jeremiah 13:27

“Your adulteries… I have seen your abominations, O Jerusalem.”

Jeremiah 19:3–11

Jerusalem will be smashed like a potter’s vessel.

Jeremiah 22:5–9

Jerusalem will become a desolation.

Jeremiah 26:18

“Zion shall be plowed like a field…”

Ezekiel 4–5

Jerusalem judged for iniquity.

Ezekiel 12:19–20

Jerusalem becomes waste and desolation.

Ezekiel 16 (entire chapter)

Jerusalem =

harlot
adulteress
worse than Sodom
judged by foreign nations

Ezekiel 23 (entire chapter)

Jerusalem (Oholibah) commits harlotry with nations → judged violently.

Micah 3:9–12

Jerusalem will be destroyed, Zion plowed, temple burned.

Lamentations 1–2

Jerusalem sits desolate, destroyed, judged.

Zechariah 7:11–14

God scattered Jerusalem because she refused to obey.

Matthew 23:37–39

“Your house is left to you desolate.”

Luke 19:41–44

Jesus weeps over Jerusalem → predicts its destruction.

Luke 21:20–24

Jerusalem will be

surrounded by armies
trampled by Gentiles

Revelation 11:8

The old Jerusalem is:

the city “where the Lord was crucified”
spiritually Sodom and Egypt

This identifies it as the apostate Jerusalem.

⭐ PART 2 — NEW JERUSALEM: THE FUTURE / HEAVENLY CITY OF GOD

Now the contrast transitions: old city judged → new city replaces it.

Isaiah 2:2–4

Jerusalem in the last days =

mountain of YHWH
nations come for teaching
peace, not war

This is future, restored Jerusalem (fulfilled more fully in New Jerusalem).

Isaiah 4:2–6

A purified remnant in Jerusalem under a cloud of glory → Eden restoration imagery.

Isaiah 12:6

“Great is the Holy One of Israel in your midst.”

Isaiah 52:1–9

Awake, O Zion — restored, redeemed.

Isaiah 54

New covenant Jerusalem =

barren woman now fruitful
never forsaken again

Quoted by Paul in Galatians 4.

Isaiah 60–62 (major New Jerusalem chapters)

Highlights:

“Arise, shine, your light has come.”
Nations bring wealth to Jerusalem.
“Your walls Salvation, your gates Praise.”
Jerusalem gets a new name from the Lord (Rev. 2:17, Rev. 3:12 connection).

Isaiah 65:17–19

“I create new heavens and a new earth…
I create Jerusalem to be a joy.”

This is directly fulfilled in Revelation 21.

Isaiah 66:10–14

Jerusalem as the comforting mother of God’s people.

⭐ PART 3 — NEW JERUSALEM IN THE NEW TESTAMENT

The NT draws a sharp contrast:

Earthly Jerusalem = bondage
New Jerusalem = freedom, mother of believers
Heavenly Jerusalem = true city of God

⭐ Galatians 4:24–26

“Now Hagar corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in bondage…
But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother.”

Clear distinction:

“Present Jerusalem” = cursed, enslaved
“Jerusalem above” = the true people of God

⭐ Hebrews 11:10, 16

Abraham sought a city
“whose builder and maker is God.”

Not earthly Jerusalem.

⭐ Hebrews 12:22–23

“You have come to Mount Zion and to the heavenly Jerusalem,
the city of the living God…”

Believers already belong to the heavenly city, not the old earthly one.

⭐ Revelation 3:12

Jesus promises believers:
“I will write on him the name of the New Jerusalem.”

⭐ Revelation 21:1–2

“I saw the New Jerusalem, coming down from heaven from God.”

⭐ Revelation 21:9–27; 22:1–5

New Jerusalem =

bride of the Lamb
no temple
glory of God is its light
nations healed
river of life
tree of life

This is the final and eternal city, replacing the old.

⭐ PART 4 — DIRECT OLD vs NEW JERUSALEM CONTRAST VERSES

Here are the clearest direct contrasts:

Old Jerusalem = judged

Isa 1:21
Jer 6:6
Ezek 16
Matt 23:37–39
Luke 19:41–44
Rev 11:8

New Jerusalem = redeemed, heavenly, eternal

Isa 65:17–19
Isa 66:22
Gal 4:26
Heb 12:22
Rev 21–22

Old Jerusalem = slavery

New Jerusalem = freedom

Gal 4:24–26

Old Jerusalem = earthly

New Jerusalem = heavenly

Heb 12:22
Rev 21

Old Jerusalem = harlot

New Jerusalem = bride

Ezek 16 (harlot)
Rev 17 (harlot)
vs
Rev 21 (bride of the Lamb)

Old Jerusalem = desolate

New Jerusalem = rejoicing

Matt 23:38
vs
Rev 21:3–4

⭐ SUMMARY

OLD JERUSALEM

sinful
adulterous
kills prophets
judged
desolate
symbolically Egypt, Sodom, Babylon
destroyed in AD 70 (Luke 21; Matt 22; Rev 11)

NEW JERUSALEM

heavenly
bride of Christ
free
transformed
holy
eternal dwelling of God with His people
descends from heaven (Rev. 21)

Everything in Scripture points to a transition:

Old covenant Jerusalem → removed
New covenant Jerusalem → established forever

Revelation 18
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
Christians are not supposed to be unequally yoked with Babylon Jerusalem, "Israel" (Christians are Jews Israel Romans 2 28 29 Galatians 6 16), and the synagogue of satan. They should be ignored.
Jesus on the pharisees whom the modern day synagogue of satans religion goes back to

Matthew 15:14

King James Version

14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

Gene2memE · 2025-12-11T21:12:23-0600

Factotum said:
The Skipper. That is the name of the sanctioned, Venezuelan oil tanker which the US Coast Guard seized yesterday.

Pam Bondi feels like it was headed to Iran, to help perfect their terrorism against USA interests.
Do you think this was legal, or it was blatant theft by the Trump DoD? And, an international act of piracy??

The Venezuelen GOVT feels it was those things, if you go by the report from an NBC News affiliate: Login to view embedded media

This one was actually done by the book. The seizure appears to be a legal under US law and at least defensible under international maritime law.

However, if you were looking to calm down US-Venezuela tensions, this REALLY doesn't help. One would think that this sort of action amounts to deliberate provocation.

This seizure also shows the Trump Administration's hypocrisy over its recent actions across the Caribbean with the drone strikes AND its lack of action concerning sanctioned Russian oil vessels.

To conduct this seizure, the US co-ordinated elements from the FBI, US Navy, US Coast Guard and various other Homeland Security investigation/intelligence organs and put physical elements (ships, helos) into harms way in international waters. Yet, it is very deliberately NOT doing this to seize the "drug boats" and arrest their crews, instead choosing extrajudicial execution as a strategy.

Also, the US has sanctioned more than 180 Russian oil tankers. I wonder how the Trump administration would react to proposals that it pull similar seizures on Russian vessels in the Mediterranean?

Apple Sky · 2025-12-11T21:07:59-0600

The Micro & the Macro.

New King James Version
The craftsman stretches out his rule, He marks one out with chalk; He fashions it with a plane, He marks it out with the compass, And makes it like the figure of a man, According to the beauty of a man, that it may remain in the house.

Creation - The Micro & The Macro

This is just a theory. I have very often asked myself, could we & the earth be the micro of God who is the macro. To understand this better here is a link. There are 75 Verses About The Womb In The Bible

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GREATER WORLD MAP And MACROCLIMATE CHANGE (AEWAR, VIBES OF COSMOS And FLATEARTH NATIONS)

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Belk · 2025-12-11T21:03:56-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
If two jurisdictions produce disparate outcomes for the same offense, then that's not equal application of the law.

That's just mob rule.

If someone in a red state was clearly breaking a law that republicans disagreed with, and it was in a jurisdiction where it's all but guaranteed that you'd get a pro-conservative jury, and they were letting people off he hook for it, that'd be a miscarriage of justice, would it not?

The same people who are throwing a fit about ICE officers wearing masks (because they can't doxx them as easily...and that is why they want to see their face, so they can harass them and their families after the fact, to intimidate them out of enforcing laws they don't like) are letting people off the hook for assaulting them.

If people don't want these kinds of laws enforced (or don't want certain laws to exist), they should try winning elections... as opposed to rallying behind unpopular ideas, and then just refusing to acknowledge laws/procedures after they lose.

If I ran for office on the ideology of "I'm going to make drunk driving legal" and the majority of people understandably voted against me, juries in isolated pockets of the country that would be dumb enough to agree with my idea letting people off the hook for drunk driving isn't "justice".

Trump won largely because of the Immigration issue. The majority of people in the country weren't buying what the democrats were selling on that. Juries in democratic strongholds trying to obstruct that process are no better than the J6 people.

Wow, that is a whole lot of words to pack in "My assumptions are proved by a single case".

keras · 2025-12-11T20:59:01-0600

truthuprootsevil said:
2 Peter 3:10 KJV - But the day of the Lord will come as a - Bible Gateway Bible Gateway passage: 2 Peter 3:10 - King James Version

2 Peter 3:10 is a Prophecy about the forthcoming Day of the Lords vengeance and fiery wrath.
NOT the glorious Return.
NOT the final Judgment, after the Millennium. Which 2 Peter 3:12-13 refers to - the Day of God.

lismore · 2025-12-11T20:30:16-0600

Migrant on the run found hiding in nativity scene

A migrant on the run from police tried to evade recapture by hiding in a Christmas nativity scene in Italy, apparently pretending to be a shepherd.

uk.news.yahoo.com

A migrant on the run from police tried to evade recapture by hiding in a Christmas nativity scene in Italy, apparently pretending to be a shepherd.

The 38-year-old migrant from Ghana was on the run from a conviction for assault and resisting arrest.

He had been sentenced to nine months and 15 days in prison by a court in Bologna but then managed to evade the authorities and ended up in the small town of Galatone in the southern region of Puglia.

The fugitive’s ruse was rumbled when the mayor, who happened to be walking by, noticed a flicker of movement in the festive tableau, which has pride of place in the town in a square called Piazza Crocifisso (the Crucifix Piazza).

Photographs show him lurking at the back of the nativity scene with his arms held out, as if he is trying to mimic one of the life-size statues that made up the diorama.

He is standing amid bales of straw and amphorae, to the right of Joseph and Mary, who are beside the crib where a model of baby Jesus will be placed on Christmas Day.

It's all rather strange!

samaus123456789 · 2025-12-11T20:28:27-0600

I. 100–400 AD — Christian Era: Greek Enoch circulates widely
✔ Multiple Greek manuscripts existed
Though none survive intact, we know from quotation chains that: Greek Enoch was widespread in Egypt, Syria, and Palestine Church fathers quote it with the phrase “as Enoch says…”
✔ Used by early Christian writers
Tertullian (AD 200) Treats Enoch as a true prophet Says Jews rejected it because it spoke of Christ Defends its authority
Athenagoras (177 AD) Uses Enoch’s angel-fall narrative
Irenaeus (180 AD) Uses Enochic interpretation of Genesis 6 Draws angelology from it
Clement of Alexandria (200 AD) Quotes Enoch as Scripture
Origen (230 AD) Uses Enoch in demonology
Lactantius (300 AD) Quotes Enoch in detail
Enoch in this period is preserved in Greek, not Hebrew/Aramaic.
✔ Why Greek matters: Greek was the dominant Christian language. If the early church had kept Enoch in continuous liturgical use, we would still have Greek manuscripts today. Instead, something changed:

⭐ III. 400–600 AD — The decline of Enoch in the West
✔ The church begins to restrict its canon After 325, certain books were preferentially copied: Genesis, Isaiah, gospels, Paul, etc. Books not in heavy use—like Enoch—were copied less.
✔ Two key reasons Enoch faded: Jewish communities stopped using it Rabbinic Judaism rejected books tied to the temple or apocalyptic tradition. Some Christian bishops distrusted its angelology Mainly because of the radical story of Watchers Not because they thought it was “fake” — but because it contradicted later theology
✔ Result: The Greek manuscripts slowly disappeared through lack of copying. Only small Greek fragments survived.

⭐ IV. 500–1500 AD — PRESERVED ONLY IN ETHIOPIA
This is the most important era for Enoch’s survival.
✔ Ethiopia kept Enoch in its biblical canon The Ethiopian Church (Ge’ez / Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo) is the only Christian tradition that: kept 1 Enoch regularly copied it translated it into Ge’ez treated it as Scripture never lost it
✔ Transmission language: Ge’ez Enoch became a standard book in the Ethiopian Bible, alongside: Jubilees 1–3 Meqabyan (unique Ethiopian books) other Enochic and apocalyptic materials
✔ Why Ethiopia preserved it: They preserved very old Jewish-Christian traditions that other churches left behind.
✔ Result: For almost 1,000 years (from ~600 to ~1600): The ONLY complete copies of 1 Enoch were Ethiopian (Ge’ez) The Greek tradition died out completely The Aramaic copies were buried at Qumran and forgotten

⭐ V. 1773 — The Great Rediscovery
James Bruce, a Scottish explorer, traveled to Ethiopia. He obtained: Three complete Ge’ez manuscripts of Enoch This shocked Europe: Up until then, people believed Enoch was “lost forever.” First modern translations: 1821: Richard Laurence published the first English translation 1851: Dillmann published the first critical edition in Ge’ez Enoch was restored to Western scholarship.

⭐ VI. 1947–1956 — Dead Sea Scrolls confirm authenticity
When the DSS were found: Eleven caves at Qumran preserved Aramaic fragments of Enoch These were dated from 200 BC to 50 AD This proved: ✔ The Ethiopian text was based on ancient originals ✔ Enoch existed long before Christianity ✔ Early Christians inherited it from Judaism ✔ Jude’s quotation is exactly accurate ✔ Transmission through Ethiopia preserved the full text faithfully This was one of the greatest manuscript confirmations in biblical studies.

⭐ VII. MODERN TRANSMISSION
✔ Critical Ge’ez editions Scholars produced editions comparing dozens of Ethiopian manuscripts.
✔ Modern English translations R.H. Charles (1906) E. Isaac (in Charlesworth’s Pseudepigrapha set, 1983) George Nickelsburg & James VanderKam (Hermeneia commentary)
✔ Modern reconstructions include: Aramaic DSS fragments Greek quotations Ge’ez manuscripts Thus the modern Enoch text is a composite reconstruction with extremely high confidence.

⭐ SUMMARY OF THE COMPLETE TRANSMISSION LINE
Here is the entire chain from Enoch → You:

⭐ ORIGINAL (Pre-flood)
Enoch gives revelations to Methuselah and his descendants.

⭐ ANCIENT HEBREW / EARLY ARAMAIC
Patriarchal transmission → early Israelite preservation.

⭐ SECOND TEMPLE JUDAISM (300–100 BC)
Aramaic copies used at Qumran, influencing: Jubilees DSS sect Early Judaism Christianity

⭐ EARLY CHURCH (100–400 AD)
Greek translations used across Christian world.

⭐ DECLINE IN WEST (400–600 AD)
Greek copies lost; Western church stops copying it.

⭐ ETHIOPIAN PRESERVATION (500–1800 AD)
Enoch survives ONLY in Ge’ez manuscripts.

⭐ REDISCOVERY (1773 AD)
James Bruce brings back Ge’ez copies.

⭐ DEAD SEA SCROLLS (1947)
Aramaic Enoch fragments confirm authenticity.

⭐ MODERN EDITIONS
Critical reconstructions published in all major languages.

Apple Sky · 2025-12-11T20:23:17-0600

prodromos said:
It does not delve into the mechanics of whether they are generating light or reflecting light. Obviously there is no conflict with Scripture when we understand that the moon is reflecting the sun's light, since that would by its very nature make it a lesser light.

And God made two great lights;

Not three, Not one & one reflected, he made two.

DreamyLaLa · 2025-12-11T20:16:32-0600

Multifavs said:
This is so nice and colorful with pretty designs! I always love your art style! :3

Thanks!

It was drawn about a year ago, so the art is not as up to date, but I thought you might like it. I love to incorporate pink in my art, even winter/Christmas designs!

Delvianna · 2025-12-11T20:07:30-0600

samaus123456789 said:
Yes I am biased. You use whatever starting assumptions you have, and I will use mine. I have made a large number of novel discoveries of the bible long before I started using AI. AI works for me. How many novel discoveries have you had? My guess would be zero.

Again, you miss the point. When your premise is, here is a framework for evaluating text that uses a standard to be reliable and then you introduce bias, that makes it then... unreliable. And I'm not here to prop up ego when scripture is against it, so I'm just going to ignore the rest of your response and move along. You do you.

Yarddog · 2025-12-11T20:04:17-0600

Oompa Loompa said:
Trump says US is in 'armed conflict' with drug cartels after ordering strikes in the Caribbean

President Donald Trump has declared drug cartels to be unlawful combatants and says the United States is now in an “armed conflict."

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Trump declares U.S. in 'non-international armed conflict' with drug cartels

President Donald Trump has declared drug cartels operating in the Caribbean are unlawful combatants and says the United States is now in a “non-international armed conflict.”

www.pbs.org

Trump Tells Congress U.S. Is at War With Cartels: What That Means

Legal experts and lawmakers have raised concerns after President Donald Trump declared in a notice to Congress that the U.S. is in a formal “armed conflict” with drug cartels.

time.com

https://thehill.com/homenews/5535523-trump-armed-conflict-drug-cartels-caribbean/

As I said, Trump is not the US. The US will need Congress to agree before we are.

Oompa Loompa said:
Furthermore, what MS-13 criminals did Trump help,

Ranking Member Robert Garcia Demands Trump Administration Come Clean on Reported Deal to Release MS-13 Leaders to El Salvador

Oompa Loompa said:
and why would Trumpmcarenabout Venezuelan oil when he made America energy independent?

The US isn't energy independent. We just export more oil than we import.

Why is Trump so obsessed with Venezuela? His new security strategy provides some clues

The Trump administration is reviving the Monroe Doctrine for Latin America. The aim: keeping China out and securing oil and resources for itself.

theconversation.com

U.S. energy facts - imports and exports - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

U.S. energy imports and exports since 1950.

www.eia.gov

wing2000 · 2025-12-11T20:03:41-0600

Aryeh Jay said:
Clearly you don't understand the 4 dementia chess Trump is playing. Gas is at the lowest price in decades. View attachment 374343
Taken two days ago.

Who gave you permission for shore leave in Venezuela?

truthuprootsevil · 2025-12-11T20:02:56-0600

Richard T said:
An outstanding teaching that is grounded in scripture. Thanks for poiting out some possible misconceptions.

And many scriptures tells us to seek, ask, knock for truths. God wants us to search for the truth of him continually, so he hide things and reveal things to those who diligently search.
What Does the Bible Say About Seeking The Truth? What Does the Bible Say About Seeking The Truth?

BIBLE VERSES ABOUT SEEK TRUTH BIBLE VERSES ABOUT SEEK TRUTH

wing2000 · 2025-12-11T19:52:34-0600

MarcusGregor said:
Judge orders Kilmar Abrego Garcia to be immediately released from immigration detention

The Department of Homeland Security is criticizing a judge's order that Kilmar Abrego Garcia be immediately released from immigration detention and vows to oppose it.

apnews.com

Lying to the court is generally not recommended.

In her order releasing Abrego Garcia, Xinis wrote that federal authorities “did not just stonewall” the court, “They affirmatively misled the tribunal.” The judge was referencing the successive list of four African countries that officials had sought to remove Abrego Garcia to, seemingly without commitments from those countries, as well as officials’ affirmations that Costa Rica withdrew its offer to accept him, a claim later proven untrue.

rockytopva · 2025-12-11T19:50:53-0600

Aryeh Jay said:
The fact that you have everyone's voter registration is all the proof I need.

Look at the videos... Who helped the lady?

Killing of Iryna Zarutska - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Delvianna · 2025-12-11T19:47:59-0600

samaus123456789 said:
Jesus said the father will send you the holy spirit. There is your trinity doctrine in one sentence. and because I already know the answer to bible prophecy AI is amazing. I can copy paste my writings in it, and it formats it well which is what I did with Rev 12. I can put constraints on it to like only show stuff from before 70 ad or from before 500 ad. I already know every single bible text so know the rough answers anyway. So with my knowledge, and the assumptions I can ask it to start with it is amazing. It did not help me find anything new in Rev 12 I already knew everything I posted.

It helped me find an event in Josephus 67 AD Joppa harbour prophesied in Revelation 8 8 The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood, 9 a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.

Judeans are on a lot of boats in Joppa harbour the boats crash against the rocks 4200 die and the water turns to blood. I never would of found that without AI.

I don't give AI far too much credit. For me AI is amazing. Don't use it if you don't like it.

AI is incredibly biased, it already knows what you want to hear and will bend the truth. You're still forming your answers based on what its feeding you and you even admit "it helped me find" which the rest of that paragraph isn't based on facts, and is untrue. Historically, the entire fleet was destroyed, not "a third" and that's ignoring the rest of it.

But you clearly want to keep using it as it gives you wrong info, so that's entirely up to you.

Valletta · 2025-12-11T19:45:57-0600

Satellite images suggest seized tanker 'deliberately' manipulated location data

The crude oil tanker was sanctioned by the U.S. in 2022.

www.yahoo.com

How much longer will they keep up the "fishing boat" stories?

samaus123456789 · 2025-12-11T19:35:20-0600

Maria Billingsley said:
I am swine because I don't believe angels married daughters of men and produced Nephilim? Okay. The spirit of this conversation has certainly reached an ungodly level.
Thanks for sharing.

Well if you don't believe that then you don't believe Genesis 6:4, Jude, and Peter which all mention that event. Jude, and Peter said the angels that left heaven are kept in chains just like Enoch says. So you are rejecting the protestant canon first then 1 Enoch after that.

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⭐ PART 1 — OLD JERUSALEM: THE CITY IN SIN / UNDER JUDGMENT​

Isaiah 1:21​

Isaiah 3:8​

Isaiah 29:1–4​

Jeremiah 4:14–18​

Jeremiah 6:6​

Jeremiah 13:27​

Jeremiah 19:3–11​

Jeremiah 22:5–9​

Jeremiah 26:18​

Ezekiel 4–5​

Ezekiel 12:19–20​

Ezekiel 16 (entire chapter)​

Ezekiel 23 (entire chapter)​

Micah 3:9–12​

Lamentations 1–2​

Zechariah 7:11–14​

Matthew 23:37–39​

Luke 19:41–44​

Luke 21:20–24​

Revelation 11:8​

⭐ PART 2 — NEW JERUSALEM: THE FUTURE / HEAVENLY CITY OF GOD​

Isaiah 2:2–4​

Isaiah 4:2–6​

Isaiah 12:6​

Isaiah 52:1–9​

Isaiah 54​

Isaiah 60–62 (major New Jerusalem chapters)​

Isaiah 65:17–19​

Isaiah 66:10–14​

⭐ PART 3 — NEW JERUSALEM IN THE NEW TESTAMENT​

⭐ Galatians 4:24–26​

⭐ Hebrews 11:10, 16​

⭐ Hebrews 12:22–23​

⭐ Revelation 3:12​

⭐ Revelation 21:1–2​

⭐ Revelation 21:9–27; 22:1–5​

⭐ PART 4 — DIRECT OLD vs NEW JERUSALEM CONTRAST VERSES​

Old Jerusalem = judged​

New Jerusalem = redeemed, heavenly, eternal​

Old Jerusalem = slavery​

New Jerusalem = freedom​

Old Jerusalem = earthly​

New Jerusalem = heavenly​

Old Jerusalem = harlot​

New Jerusalem = bride​

Old Jerusalem = desolate​

New Jerusalem = rejoicing​

⭐ SUMMARY​

OLD JERUSALEM​

NEW JERUSALEM​

Matthew 15:14 King James Version​

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The deeply personal reasons why many Indiana Senate Republicans said no to Trump

⭐ PART 1 — OLD JERUSALEM: THE CITY IN SIN / UNDER JUDGMENT

Isaiah 1:21

Isaiah 3:8

Isaiah 29:1–4

Jeremiah 4:14–18

Jeremiah 6:6

Jeremiah 13:27

Jeremiah 19:3–11

Jeremiah 22:5–9

Jeremiah 26:18

Ezekiel 4–5

Ezekiel 12:19–20

Ezekiel 16 (entire chapter)

Ezekiel 23 (entire chapter)

Micah 3:9–12

Lamentations 1–2

Zechariah 7:11–14

Matthew 23:37–39

Luke 19:41–44

Luke 21:20–24

Revelation 11:8

⭐ PART 2 — NEW JERUSALEM: THE FUTURE / HEAVENLY CITY OF GOD

Isaiah 2:2–4

Isaiah 4:2–6

Isaiah 12:6

Isaiah 52:1–9

Isaiah 54

Isaiah 60–62 (major New Jerusalem chapters)

Isaiah 65:17–19

Isaiah 66:10–14

⭐ PART 3 — NEW JERUSALEM IN THE NEW TESTAMENT

⭐ Galatians 4:24–26

⭐ Hebrews 11:10, 16

⭐ Hebrews 12:22–23

⭐ Revelation 3:12

⭐ Revelation 21:1–2

⭐ Revelation 21:9–27; 22:1–5

⭐ PART 4 — DIRECT OLD vs NEW JERUSALEM CONTRAST VERSES

Old Jerusalem = judged

New Jerusalem = redeemed, heavenly, eternal

Old Jerusalem = slavery

New Jerusalem = freedom

Old Jerusalem = earthly

New Jerusalem = heavenly

Old Jerusalem = harlot

New Jerusalem = bride

Old Jerusalem = desolate

New Jerusalem = rejoicing

⭐ SUMMARY

OLD JERUSALEM

NEW JERUSALEM

Matthew 15:14

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