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Why Catholics Are Being Buried in Churches Again

Across the centuries, Church crypts — from Roman catacombs to American cathedrals — testify that death is not the end but the beginning of eternal life.

In the Cathedral of St. John the Evangelist in downtown Cleveland, a chapel adjoins the north transept. There’s a wrought-iron gate with Requiescant in Pace fashioned above the entrance. It’s the cathedral’s burial crypt, containing the tombs of the deceased bishops of Cleveland.

While a “crypt” implies a place under or below a structure, Cleveland’s cathedral burial chamber on the ground floor, named the Resurrection Chapel, reflects that definition as well as the tradition of burial crypts throughout the history of Christianity. It is significant that figures of both St. Peter and St. Paul are prominent on the Resurrection Chapel’s upper half of the north wall, as both martyrs of the early Church were buried in crypts: St. Peter below the altar in the basilica that bears his name, and St. Paul, buried under what is now the papal altar of the Basilica of St. Paul Outside the Walls.

“Every ordinary, that is, a bishop of a diocese, is a member of that diocese and has a right to be buried in the cathedral crypt,” Bishop Roger Gries, retired auxiliary bishop of Cleveland, explained to the Register.

A contemporary example of a burial crypt is below the apse of one of the most famous churches in the world, Barcelona’s Sagrada Familia, which began construction on the feast of St. Joseph, March 19, 1882, and is set to be completed in 2026. The visionary behind the mammoth basilica, Catalan architect Venerable Antoni Gaudí, is buried in the Sagrada Familia Crypt. The crypt, completed in 1889, is the oldest part of the basilica.

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Baltimore Officer Suspended After Trying to Run Over Citizen

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Intercessory Prayer

i can understand how different results occur during various studies but if God can or does answer prayer, shouldn’t there be SOME indication that God answered them sometimes? I mean, don’t all the studies prove prayer has no effect whatsoever? And if so, what’s the point of prayer other than thanking God?
There have been many documented miracles that resulted from prayer.
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The trans reckoning has arrived

Future generations will not look kindly on those who betrayed the truth for comfort and career advancement.

The reckoning is finally arriving, echoing the dilemma in Eugene Genovese’s powerful essay, ‘The Question’. Writing in 1994, Genovese confessed that he and many others had remained loyal to the Soviet Union long after they knew about the mass killings and the gulags. ‘For many years’, he admitted, ‘I have lived in dread of having to answer The Question… “What did you know, and when did you know it?”’ Eventually, he acknowledged the uncomfortable truth: ‘We knew everything essential and knew it from the beginning.’ Many mainstream journalists will soon find themselves confronting the same question.

The sudden resignations this week of BBC director-general Tim Davie and CEO of news Deborah Turness has focussed minds on the role of the media. It has been startling – and grimly predictable – to watch senior figures at the BBC scrambling to defend their failures by muttering darkly about ‘right-wing conspiracies’ and ‘inside jobs’. Few, if any, have paused to consider whether the real problem might be their own cowardice.

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The Book of Enoch?

This is tied to how history is legitimately written. Chinese history is also canonized, and as a necessity or else historical information cannot convey legitimately. The Jews often quote from difference sources, including common stories, common theologies which are usually Pharisaic in nature, just as Jesus put, "the Pharisees are on Moses' seat" (the significance is that Canon needs an authority to legitimize it).

Quotes from common stories include how archangel Michael had a dispute with Satan on the corpse of Moses. When this was quoted, at best it means the source is partially reliable, or more strictly speaking only this part of the source book is legitimate. The quote itself doesn't automatically legitimize the whole book. Canonization on the other hand, authenticate the whole book as being legitimate and can be regarded as the Word of God. That lies a fundamental difference.

The OT canonization started (as authorized by God) with King Hezekiah. It's said that 17 out of the 24 books of the Jewish OT Canon are with the mark or seal of King Hezekiah. The more critical authentication is through Ezra (authorized by God). It seems that 22 out of the 24 canonical books are the effort more or less from Ezra. These 22 books were written in Hebrew. 2 more books were added later, more likely they are the book of Ezra (naturally so) and the book of Daniel (there's a reason for this as well, by God's will). These two books were written in Aramaic as a later add-in. They are legitimized by the Pharisees (more likely involving Pharisee elites inside the Great Sanhedrin) near Jesus' days. Even Josephus only reckoned the 22 book version of the Jewish Canon (Josephus is an elite Pharisee but not one in the inner circle of the Great Sanhedrin, Paul is a closer candidate to the Great Sanhedrin).

That said, Daniel was added (as by God's will) to the Canon, more likely because Daniel actually encountered Jesus, if you compare the description of Jesus' appearance in Revelation with that in Daniel. The Jews didn't reckon Daniel as a formal prophet, but Jesus authenticated Daniel by calling him a prophet directly.

In a nutshell, whenever an outside source is referenced, whether it's from a common story, a common Pharisaic theology or even from the Septuagint, it only means that part of the book is reliable, no less no more. In contrast, only a canonical book can be deemed as the Scripture or Word of God. Only the Scripture is not broken, as Jesus put.

Alas, no, the Church, which possess the fullness of the truth, has the authority to make decisions on what is canonical, which is why for example the Eastern Orthodox in the Byzantine RIte read The Wisdom of Solomon in the Divine Liturgy, Western Christians read Sirach (Ecclesiasticus) among other texts, and these texts are in our bibles. The Eastern Orthodox don’t even call them Deuterocanonical; rather one can gauge the relative importance of a scriptural text by how often it is read in the liturgy, at least with regards to the Old Testament (since only the Coptic Orthodox read the Apocalypse of St. John in the liturgy; but its validity for Eastern Orthodox purposes I think is attested to by the fact that at the same time on Holy Saturday that the Copts read it in a formal liturgical setting, many Athonite monks read it in an informal, extra-liturgical group to prepare their minds for the Paschal Divine Liturgy at midnight, which the Copts are also doing by reading it - Coptic and Ethiopian laity do a number of things only monastics do in other rites, despite also being one of the churches that retains vestiges of what in the Byzantine Rite is called the “Cathedral Typikon” which in our church completely disappeared due to a fusion of monastic and cathedral praxis, as monasteries replaced the cathedrals especially after the Fourth Crusade and Turkocratia as the main centers of religious authority and also served not just the brethren and pilgrims but Orthodox communities in the surrounding area).

In the case of the Ethiopian church, they made the decision to put 1 Enoch in their canon, but it doesn’t affect their doctrine, presumably because they’re reading it as Christological prophecy rather than as a source of historical information, where it could cause the sort of problems my friend @Jipsah has pointed out.
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Supreme Court rejects Kim Davis’ request to reconsider landmark gay marriage ruling

Odd that Jesus never considered the issue worth mentioning. But he did go after Pharisees for legalistic adherence to the Law, while ignoring the spirit of the law. He released a woman caught in adultery, when the Law required her to be killed. He told his followers to emulate a heretical Samaritan rather than a Levite, based only on compassion for others. He healed on the Sabbath, which was condemned under the Law.

And Paul makes the difference explicit:
Romans 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)
Christ mentions Sodom in Matthew 10:15, Matthew 11:23, Matthew 11:24, Mark 6:11, Luke 10:12 and Luke 17:29.

At no point does He say His past fire-bombing of San Francisco was unjustified.
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The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

Beyond the Antarctic Circle, at 62.5°S, the sun never sets for at least 2 weeks during Summer. That means the sun is visible across your entire ice ring, not just the little grey dot. Your flat earth explanation fails spectacularly to account for that.
You also have the sun visible in the Arctic which simply does not happen in Winter where the sun never rises.
Your diagram explains nothing and also runs counter to many established flat earth beliefs. Congratulations.
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What happens if someone dies before they became a believer, is it their fault?

For example, a young man just starting college is murdered. He didn't get to live a long life, while someone else becomes a believer in their 40's.

The person in their 40's had more time to accept Jesus, yet the young man didn't. It seems unfair, but what does the Bible say?

Was the young man probably never would have been a believer anyway? Are we sometimes saved not only because we accepted Jesus, but by chance we survived long enough to accept Jesus as our God? Or does this not make any sense?

Trump proposes 50-year mortgage

Your conservatism still exists. I think one of the issues we face today that we have to consider is what has happened over the years. In banking, much like other businesses we have large conglomerates that have a lot of control. Big banking. We do not have as many locally run and funded banks as we used to. Banks that would know their customers and would help them out. Now, like so much huge banks control a lot of the findings and loans.

We still have Credit Unions which are more localized which is good, but housing is more often considered trolled by Big Banking and Mortgage Companies. Which if allowed to will take advantage of their customers as often as possible. As we saw when Congress got involved in the mortgage push for banks to loan to people who weren't really qualified for loans and we had the mortgage crisis.

To my knowledge, Congress did not pressure banks to lend to unqualified borrowers.

I personally like credit union . My mortgage was from local credit union and got lot better interest rate. My current car loan is from local credit union.
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‘Miraculous touches of God’s presence’ in the most atheist nation in Europe

The Czech Republic, known for its historical heritage, fairytale castles, and medieval architecture, is considered the most atheist country in Europe.

Evangelization in this land — which still bears the scars of a past marked by communism and division — is a constant challenge but not an impossible goal. Czech missionaries say they perceive “miraculous touches of God’s presence” in a society increasingly thirsting for love and truth.

Approximately 80% of the Czech Republic’s more than 10.5 million inhabitants claim to have no religious affiliation. Although about a third of the population say they believe in God — in many cases without being linked to a specific denomination — only 9.4% identify as Catholic.

Nearly a quarter of Czechs declare themselves atheist, according to the 2017 Pew Survey on European Values, making the country one of the most secularized on the continent. Comparing census results since 1991 reveals a clear decline in church membership and an increase in personal belief in God without institutional affiliation.

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What we need is an economy that works for most Americans.....

Yes but what’s worse for an independent voter like me is the lack of cooperation between the parties. The ideologies are so far apart that they can’t even talk. Everything has to be a fight. The important issues are ignored. The campaign promises or even the candidate’s independent views might not be what they end up doing if elected.
I don’t see either party working towards bridging the divide but maybe after enough establishment candidates on each side lose enough elections the party leadership will start to realize they don’t have the support they thought they had.

That’s my hope.
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‘Catholic American Bible’ gets green light from U.S. bishops

The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) approved a new translation of the Bible, which will be used for personal Bibles, the lectionary at Mass, and the text in the Liturgy of the Hours.

Bishop Steven Lopes, chair of the Committee on Divine Worship, announced the translation will be called the “Catholic American Bible.” The translation for personal Bibles and the Liturgy of the Hours will be available on Ash Wednesday in 2027.

The bishops have not announced when the revised lectionaries will be available.

The USCCB also approved a Spanish-language translation of the New Testament, the Biblia de la Iglesia en América, which will be available on Ash Wednesday in 2026.

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Trump opens door to 600,000 Chinese students amid Beijing trade talks; would be largest number ever

Trump tries to explain a U-turn — and conservatives are furious: ‘Out-of-touch to new levels’

President Donald Trump is facing scrutiny after doubling down on his administration’s plan to allow hundreds of thousands of Chinese students to study at American universities.

[First announced in August (the OP)] criticism is again mounting, after Trump was pressed on whether the move should be viewed as a “pro-MAGA position” during an interview on Fox News released late Monday.

“MAGA was my idea. MAGA was nobody else’s idea. I know what MAGA wants better than anybody else.”

“We do have a lot of people coming in from China. We always have, China and other countries,” Trump said on “The Ingraham Angle.” “We also have a massive system of colleges and universities, and if we were to cut that in half, which perhaps makes some people happy, you would have half the colleges in the United States go out of business.”
I like how he just tells his supporters what they’re are going to go for. Can’t have people forming their own opinions now.
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Vatican declares alleged apparitions of Jesus in France ‘not supernatural’

The Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith (DDF) has declared that the alleged apparitions of Jesus in Dozulé, France, do not have an authentic divine origin and are therefore “not supernatural.”

The prefect of the dicastery, Cardinal Victor Manuel Fernandez, confirmed the declaration based on the Norms for Discerning Alleged Supernatural Phenomena in a document released Nov. 12 and addressed to the bishop of Bayeux-Lisieux, Jacques Habert.

In 1972, Madeleine Aumont claimed that Jesus had appeared to her, asking the Church to build a giant “glorious cross” in Dozulé, next to a “shrine of reconciliation.” Furthermore, the alleged visionary claimed that Jesus had announced his “imminent” return.

In the document, the Vatican authority notes that the alleged apparitions in the Normandy town “have elicited spiritual interest” but also “not a few controversies and difficulties of a doctrinal and pastoral nature” that require clarification.

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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

Re Egypt, it looks like academia over the centuries has crawled all over Egypt with a fine-tooth comb, wondering who lived when, how the pyramids were built and when, and so on and so forth.

This demonstrates what God said long ago:

Isaiah 26:14 They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish.

What an absolute cop out answer!

And Isaiah 26 is sure as heck not talking about Egypt, since the very first sentence is "In that day shall this song be sung in the land of Judah"!
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Young earth vs Old earth?

I agree here. And i think that would also including the naming all the animals of the world? Which sounds like it would take up a bit of time. But how could all 6 days be in a single day anyway? Or days 4-6?
Aw. Don't steal my joy. :grin:
Shred by shred is bit by bit.

I tend to think of chapter 2 as being a continuation of chapter 1, like it comes after all of the events almost like a day 7. And day 6 creation of mankind would be, other people (because Adam and Eve aren't actually mentioned).
Read Genesis 2:4 again.
Does it say it's a continuation, or a history, a recounting of creation?
Before answering, read Genesis 5:1; Genesis 6:9; Genesis 10:1; Genesis 11:10
...and please answer wisely. :smile:
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Sister Mary Michael, last of Mother Angelica’s founding nuns, dies at 94

Sister Mary Michael of the Eucharistic Heart of Jesus, PCPA, died on Nov. 10 after roughly three-quarters of a century of religious life. She was 94.

Sister Mary Michael was the last of the original five nuns who, along with EWTN foundress Mother Angelica, began the Our Lady of the Angels Monastery in Irondale, Alabama. (The monastery is now located in Hanceville; EWTN, the parent company of CNA, remains in Irondale.)

Born Evelyn Shinosky on Feb. 25, 1931, to Joseph and Helen Shinosky, she entered Sancta Clara Monastery in Canton, Ohio, on Aug. 15, 1951, and received the habit and her new name the following May.

Sister Mary Michael made her first profession on May 1, 1954, and her solemn profession exactly six years later in 1960. Shortly after her solemn profession she joined Mother Angelica to journey to Alabama to help found the new monastery.

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Testing AI in Reading & Comprehension

Hmm, maybe I've always been AI. Maybe I was born that way. Maybe I'm the first of a new kind. Maybe, maybe I am the Adamic Algorithm!

No, that would be one of mine - can you guess why? I’ve mentioned it in a few posts; its something of the signature breakthrough of my project.

Now if I can just keep from stumbling and falling

The common lament of all Orthodox Christians myself included. Ask the Theotokos for help, seriously, it works.
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Pope Leo instructions now is Jesus apparition not true.

It just keeps getting incredible what the Pope is backing away from. Well, looks like the Pope is retracting more than a few things, now they are backing away from the apparitions that have been claimed of Jesus. Catholics believe that figures such as Jesus and Mary can appear supernaturally, known as apparitions, to share religious messages, inspire devotion, or call for peace. But now the Pope seems to be taking steps in backing away from this long held conviction.
You misunderstood the story. Apparitions and other alleged miracles are investigated by the Catholic Church, this particular apparition was judged to not be credible. As was stated by the previous poster, no apparition has to be believed. That means as a Catholic you don't have to believe what happened at Fatima, or Lourdes, or Knock. You may be wise to believe, but you are not required to do so.
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What were your expectations as a new Christian?

Looking to get a little more insight from multiple people from multiple backgrounds on this. Thank you in advance to anyone who responds.

-When you first became a Christian, what did you expect life in the church to be like?

-What were your hopes or assumptions about how things would go?

-What was your first experience with the church community?

-Did those expectations match reality, or were there surprises?

-How do you feel now about your place in the church?

Military Veteran, US Citizens Detained in ICE raid in Newark, NJ - Mayor alleges Fourth Amendment Violation

[Habba's office dropped charges against Baraka, but has pursued assault charges with Congresswoman McIver from that same incident.]

Members of Congress are legally permitted to enter ICE facilities without prior notice.

Trump DOJ acts to deweaponize the government

Trump DOJ admits to deleting politicized social media posts in controversial indictment​

President Donald Trump's Justice Department admitted to a federal judge on Tuesday that the agency's social media accounts have taken down several controversial posts that politicized the actions of a member of Congress they indicted, according to CBS News' Scott MacFarlane.

McIver's defense team has cited the posts as evidence of an unlawful prosecution.

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Syrian President Shaara conditions security deal on Israeli withdrawal from Golan Heights, claims Trump supports him

Syrian President Ahmad al-Sharaa laid out his positions on a number of topics, including the talks about a security arrangement with Israel, in an interview with The Washington Post following his historic visit to the White House on Monday.

Before the first-ever visit by a Syrian president, reports indicated that a new security arrangement might be announced. However, the discussions appear to be ongoing despite no official statement being made.

The interviewer asked al-Sharaa how he planned to “protect Syrian sovereignty,” given the “repeated attacks by the Israeli military” against his country.

After the collapse of the Assad regime, Israel destroyed most of Syria’s heavy military equipment and, several months later, targeted sites and forces affiliated with al-Sharaa’s new regime after they took part in attacks on the Druze community in southern Syria.

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Do you keep the Sabbath? (poll)

Jesus kept the Ten Commandment law and all of the other laws written in the Book of the LAW.

As to the intent of the OP, I rest when I am tired. The older I get, the more I rest. When I need spiritual rest, Jesus has given me an invitation to enter His rest any time. We don't need a Sabbath appointment to enter His rest. now do we?
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