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BCP1928 · 2025-11-09T21:14:41-0600

rjs330 said:
Okay, then give them a time limit to get a better paying job. And if they can't seem to find one, assign them one. If you are a healthy adult then theee isn't any reason you can't find a better paying job within a reasonable amount of time.

Right now it's mostly 60 months. 5 years? You have to be kidding me. If you are a healthy adult you shouldn't be in welfare any longer than 6 months. At least in today's economy.

That's a really good idea, but first you will have to convince the marginally employed that it's true.So far you seem to have convinced only yourself.

HARK! · 2025-11-09T21:14:33-0600

Hentenza said:
This is about the birth of John the Baptist. How do these verses help you? Jesus was not even born yet so of course they were still under the law. Proper application of the elements of hermeneutics is important.

Because his parents were צדיק righteous/just before Yahshua was conceived in the womb.

You might like this one too.:

(CLV) Gn 6:9
These are the genealogical records of Noah. Noah was a righteous man; he became flawless in his generations; with the One, Elohim, Noah walked.

YHWH called people righteous many, many, times throughout scripture.

This one might help too.:

(CLV) Php 3:6
in relation to zeal, persecuting the ecclesia, in relation to the righteousness which is in law, becoming blameless.

BPPLEE · 2025-11-09T21:13:50-0600

Servus said:
The point is to create anarchy.

They do a good job of that

essentialsaltes · 2025-11-09T21:07:22-0600

“Donald Trump is a stupid man’s idea of a smart person, a poor man’s idea of a rich man, and a weak man’s idea of a strong man.”

Job 33:6 · 2025-11-09T21:05:52-0600

didactics said:
For a big part of my life I have been confident in the young earth creation model but one thing that has sort of been a sticking point for me is the ancient near east (ANE) interpretation of creation. It was first pointed out to me in talking about day 2 of creation, the idea that the writer is making reference to a solid firmament. It is further reasoned that the people in those days only knew of a flat earth cosmology, so they were just speaking in terms that everyone would understand. Just because they got something wrong does not mean God’s word is not true. It’s not a science textbook after all. And I have thought about this and wondered if there is any validity to it. The other thing that has really captured my attention is ideas surrounding behemoth and leviathan found in the book of Job. I have been persuaded that these are references to dinosaurs until I saw this video of Ben Stanhope’s critique of Answers in Genesis. He makes a compelling argument that these are descriptions of a mythological creature that symbolizes a false god, such as the followers of the Canaanite deity Baal. The comparison may have been a way of showing people that the true God is omnipotent and has no fear of them. And while I may want to entertain the idea that humans lived alongside dinosaurs, it is a weak argument to suggest Job makes mention of it.

It leads me to ask, if I am wrong on these things, what else am I wrong about? Most people who espouse this view about creation week, saying that it was a polemic to the pagan nations who say their gods took part in creation, tend to also be theistic evolutionists. In a wikipedia article “Firmament” it reads,

But one thing I found interesting is that John Hancock believes the ancients did believe the earth was round.

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Maybe the way to reconcile this is to say that philosophers in those days were more split on the issue and many thought it was flat before the time of the Middle Ages.

But if I cede the argument and say it had an ANE context, wouldn’t I be inconsistent to still believe in young earth creationism (YEC)? I have argued before that the Bible is inerrant and infallible and that no contradictions exist, only apparent contradictions. And I do feel in some way it would be a compromise to say that the Bible was wrong about the firmament being a solid dome that separated the heavenly waters above. I understand that the Bible is not a science textbook, but I believe that it has to be right whenever it does talk about science.

I'm sure you've heard this before, but the Bible is inerrant in what it intends to teach. But not necessarily inerrant in anything and everything written in it, in every context. Sometimes the Bible talks about having many wives. Sometimes it talks about slavery. Sometimes Satan is saying things that may not be true etc.

And so, inerrancy is more about what the text is intended to teach. And if the Bible is not intended to teach science, then it is not necessary to hold the Bible to that kind of standard.

Also, welcome. Glad to have you with us in our journey of growth in God's word.

Genesis 7:11 and 8:2 describe windows opening and closing in the sky. Job 37:18 describes the sky, hard as cast metal. But if you understand that the intent is not to teach about astronomy, then there is nothing to be concerned about. It's just, as you've noted, the historical context of the Bible. Which all historical texts have.

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And there are lots of good scholarly works on this subject. Tremper Longman III has some good books. As does John Walton. And Michael Heiser are probably the most popular. But you can actually find dozens of Bible scholars that have writings on this subject. It's actually very well covered in commentaries. But unfortunately it is controversial among more general Christian audiences. Churches aren't academic in nature, they're more communal, and so sometimes the challenging aspects of scripture are missed in everyday sermons. And this leads to people feeling blindsided or caught off guard when they see it.

Carl Emerson · 2025-11-09T20:44:02-0600

SabbathBlessings said:
The rich young ruler went away sad, because while he was obeying the commandments to love our neighbor, he neglected the commandments to love God and placed his great riches over following God

Jesus said he knew the Commandments.

Scripture doesn't support the suggestion he didn't.

Do you think he was lying when he claimed he kept them ? ?

concretecamper · 2025-11-09T20:38:28-0600

kuwn said:
Not sure what you mean by this last sentence. Perhaps you could explain what it means.

Not sure what else I can say besides what I did say.

Tropical Wilds · 2025-11-09T20:37:15-0600

Chesterton said:
Well, a man was arrested for kidnapping and rape in Chicago. That's certainly newsworthy.

Meanwhile, also in Chicago - 238 people were shot and killed at a Popeye's Chicken location within the span of five minutes. When pressed for answers as to how so many people could be killed at such a small restaurant in such a short period of time, Cook County homicide detectives replied "We're looking into it. They just keep getting more creative every day".

The Barbarian · 2025-11-09T20:37:10-0600

Postvieww said:
Example 1: Calvary Chapel San Jose (San José, CA)

As you see, the church was in a lawsuit over county requirements. Neither Newsom nor the State of California were involved.

Multifavs · 2025-11-09T20:36:44-0600

I'm having fun drawing the frames for my first animation in SAI! ^_^

Maybe I should stream while I work on more frames soon!

Tropical Wilds · 2025-11-09T20:32:45-0600

Chesterton said:
For the First Time in 35 Years, No Rap Songs Appear in Billboard’s Hot 100 Top 40

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I’m not sure why rap songs appearing in the top 40 equals a “national nightmare,” but ok.

Oh wait. Yes I do.

RandyPNW · 2025-11-09T20:30:51-0600

Guojing said:
So, when you claim that "The very thing described in Matthew and Mark as the AoD Luke identifies as the Roman Army of Jesus' time", it is actually your own interpretation and not what Luke identified.

There is nothing in Luke that linked the Olivet Discourse to the Roman Army.

Oh my goodness, brother--READ IT! Mind you, I've quoted it innumerable periods of times. I will do it again and underline the point....

Luke 21.5 Some of his disciples were remarking about how the temple was adorned with beautiful stones and with gifts dedicated to God. But Jesus said, 6 “As for what you see here, the time will come when not one stone will be left on another; every one of them will be thrown down.”
7 “Teacher,” they asked, “when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are about to take place?”...
20 “When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. 22 For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written. 23 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people. 24 They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled."...
32 “Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.

There are 3 perfectly clear things said here, though anybody can argue anything until they're blue in the face.
1) Jesus said the Temple would be destroyed.
2) Jesus said the Temple would be destroyed in his generation.
3) Jesus said Jerusalem would be surrounded by armies, preceding its destruction.

We *know* that the Roman Army surrounded Jerusalem in Jesus' generation and proceeded to destroy it and the Temple. So yes, Luke is explicitly indicating that the armies of their own generation would destroy Jerusalem and the Temple. That positively describes the Roman Army.

If you're just arguing that Luke doesn't use the word "Roman" I think you're being "difficult." Luke wouldn't want to write "Roman" in the presence of Roman overseers who would jail him for insubordination or even sedition.

2nd, it is obvious from Daniel that this was the 4th and last enemy of Israel in the series of 4 kingdoms, Dan 2 and 7. That would be Rome.

Finally, Daniel indicated that the people (army) of the ruler to come, ie Rome would destroy the "city and the sanctuary." Again, that has to be Rome, and Luke surely knew this! The same ruler who would preside over the cutting off of Messiah, fulfilling the promised redemption, would also preside over the destruction of the city and the sanctuary.

Obviously, Rome had Jesus put to death. And it would be Rome who destroys Jerusalem and the Temple in his generation.

Luke 19.43 The days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment against you and encircle you and hem you in on every side. 44 They will dash you to the ground, you and the children within your walls. They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of God’s coming to you.”

Who was Israel's "enemies?" Obviously, it was Rome.

FaithT · 2025-11-09T20:27:57-0600

Michie said:
Sure! They are ok to have. As I said, God’s creation. You admire them because they are apart of that. God knows your heart. Those stones have no supernatural or demonic power. You can collect them simply because you enjoy them. I have stones with spikes too, it’s just the way they develop.

Completely understandable. You were grasping at straws out of desperation. But you know that these things have no power. If you enjoy the Lord’s creation simply for its beauty, its just that. Nothing more. Enjoy what the Lord has made and rejoice in it! Thank Him for it.

Ok, thanks. Sometimes I fear that some New Agey power is what’s drawing me to them because everytime I see one I’m like “oooooooooh look! Aren‘t they pretty” Especially when the light makes them sparkle.

sjastro · 2025-11-09T20:26:07-0600

stevevw said:
OK lets take the claim you made about the strirations on the granite box in the Kings chamber. You presented evidence that shows a giant copper saw was used to cut the box. The signatures or witness marks are the strirations that resemble a copper saw with sand/quartz abrasion.

I addressed this evidence by saying that this does not prove that machining was not used. That more than one method was used. You seem to think that this one piece of evidence you present somehow makes all the witness marks that look completely different to your example and more like machining.

If we are going to be fair and use logic and reasoning and a consistent standard for evidence then surely we have to also include all the signatures and not just your one to determine what method was used.

Is this not fair epistemically. That we apply the same logic of looking at signatures as to what caused them and not just your one example.

You seem to think your example represents all the signatures from saw cuts in Egypt.

Therefore if I show you images of other signatures that contradict your claim. Is this not fair evidence that you need to address. Even from the same box you are using.

What is so patently ridiculous about your post none of your images even comes remotely close to representing a machined surface.
This is what granite looks like when it is cut with a circular saw using a very fine diamond grit leaving barely discernible striations and a fairly smooth surface.

By comparison you submitted this as an example of a circular saw cut; instead it is a signature of abrasion done by hand using a rubbing stone and slurry as the striations are of variable depth and width due to different grit sizes in the slurry while the gap between the striations varies as the abrasive in the slurry is mobile.

Along with Khufu’s unfinished sarcophagus I can provide over two million more examples that blocks were not cut with circulars saws namely the limestone blocks used for the core of the Great Pyramid.

If you think these were done with circular saws then you need to explain their irregular shapes and extreme roughness.
As limestone is soft the builders used sandstone pounders which have been found at Giza instead of dolomite pounders.
Since the limestone blocks were covered there was no need to dress and smooth them like the surrounding casing stones found at the base of the pyramid which were pounded into shape and smoothed by hand abrasion.

contratodo · 2025-11-09T20:18:40-0600

prodromos said:
Your diagram fails because at that time of year the entirety of Antarctica can see the sun for 24Hrs

There is no way to prove that, people don't live but on the very edge of Antarctica. The easiest point to reach is off the southern parts of south America. The video is from the coastal area of Antarctica, there is even a guy with short sleeves on in one of the videos, Antarctica is vast. Those who tried to circle it in the 1800s logged something like 60000 miles give or take, because it is an ice wall, not a continent.

keras · 2025-11-09T20:16:45-0600

@Douggg
Please address the OP and #14, or go elsewhere..

Your attempts to support your beliefs, fail miserably.
1/ The Jews represent only the tribes of Judah and Benjamin. Some from other tribes have joined Judah and become Jews too.
2/ Isaiah 66:12 proves you wrong.
3/ Consistently wrong, -as Ezekiel 37:19-27, remains unfulfilled.

Akita Suggagaki · 2025-11-09T20:03:19-0600

Google Search

The Barbarian · 2025-11-09T20:01:11-0600

The Liturgist said:
The trick is to not use AI to think for us, but to think with us, symbiotically, as a tool and force multiplier, not a substitute.

My issue is that when I do a Google search, the AI part often pops up with claims that are completely wrong. Now, I realize that can happen with things humans toss up, too. But if I have to fact check everything AI tells me, what good is it?

BPPLEE · 2025-11-09T19:59:52-0600

RDKirk said:
"...the monster who will come for us all soon enough." -- Mon Mothma

I sincerely hope that someone will come along in 2028 that will focus on the issues and solutions to them, who will not divide the country, and not hate or be hated.
We need a uniter.
We don't need more of the same

contratodo · 2025-11-09T19:58:00-0600

Mark of the beast = literal mark on forehead or hand used primarily for buying and selling.

Most likely advanced technology, most likely a symbol that many hold dear now, I refrain from writing specifically about it for that reason. (Amos 5:26) So called Jesus will convince many that he has arrived with his angels to seal many with the seal of God in their forehead. "Your supposed to put it on your head and not on your hand, that is why it is not the mark of the beast " is what many will likely say.

Image of the beast = a hologram of a man speaking, a man seemingly healed from death Rev 13:3, talking blaspheme about what is outside of the sky Rev 13:6. Projected hologram technology, coming up from even phones. A.i. inside of the phones will keep track of who watches and who does not, and will be able to send out a signal to kill those who don't. Most live their lives around/with the device already today. The technology that would allow for such an interactive signal to be sent out is in place as of today, the a.i. is being trained today, the hologram technology is being perfected today.

Abomination of desolation = a special quantum computer put in a newly built temple, one connects to it via the mark, the computer will actually store and monitor consciousness, and be able to transfer it into hosts, one would be able to be conscious inside of the computer without a body, or even transfer into a robot body, causing literal desolation as humanity connects to it and lives in it. It is the devil's offer of seeming eternal life, most will go along with it, those who don't will be killed. The second resurrection serves to also resurrect souls out of the abomination. (No we're not in it now, there would be no touch, and it would likely be first presented as that you can go to 'heaven' and back, after half the time he comes out and admits he's the devil hoping people will simply accept his offer, believing the lie that they will not die)

Akita Suggagaki · 2025-11-09T19:56:15-0600

I had to explore if there was a link: Google Search

RDKirk · 2025-11-09T19:51:23-0600

Jipsah said:
I still have my copy of "88 Reasons Why the Rapture Will Be in 1988", And it's only been 25 years since I was hooted at on a local TV show for saying that the ghastly warning of the world-ending effects to be expected of the "Y2K Bug" were rubbish. The very popular "Mayan Calendar EOTW came and went, the Harold Camping drop dead date saw nothing happen, 12-12-12 and the Blood Moon Tetrads proved to be non-events, and so far we'ce even survived the 2nd election of Donald Trump. Fact is, End Times prognostications (and there thousands of them) all have one thing in common: of the ones who predicted a date prior to 9-11-2025 ), 100% of them have been wrong. I think I see a pattern developing there.

Kinda sounds to me like the best policy for Christians is not to worry a lot about when our Lord is going to return. He will, when it's His good pleasure to do so. But one thing we know is going to happen, and that much soner than most would like to contemplare, we're inevitable, inescapably, unarguably, going to die. That's the certainty we'd best be prepared for . And if we're ready to die, then we'll also be ready for our Lord's return as well. Pretty much a no-brainer, don'tcha think?

We've got three parables to work with, kind of "Goldilocks" tale.

One is the parable of the unwise bridesmaids. They presumed the groom would arrive quickly, so they were unprepared when he arrived late.

The other is the unwise steward. He presumed the master would arrive late, so he was unprepared when the master arrived early.

The third is the wise steward. He didn't presume anything about the master's arrival. He simply attended to the master's business in a timely manner every day, so when the master did arrive, the steward was caught in the midst of doing what he was supposed to be doing.

JPPT1974 · 2025-11-09T19:50:28-0600

JPPT1974's Thurs Thoughts 11/13/2025:
We all enjoy seasons that
Are like Autumn or fall and
Spring, summer, and/or winter
As that we will like one season
Dislike the other but that there
Are seasons besides the change of the
Weather that we will feel like when our
Lives are in a unbearable predicament.

Guojing · 2025-11-09T19:30:01-0600

fli said:
I am begotten by God. I did not do any work to be saved.

That means you believe salvation/eternal life, is by faith alone, without works.

fli said:
Then I replied to BelieveItOarKnot of his comment that Jesus will reward those who give a cup of water to His brethren. The reward for blessing Jesus' brethren is the Matthew 25 judgment which corresponds to the Revelation white throne judgment. That judgment is for those who have blessed Jesus' brethren. None of us who are born of, adopted by, God will be judged at the white throne. Those of us who are born of God will live in heaven and have spiritual bodies. Those who enter eternal life from the white throne judgment will live on the new earth, not be allowed entry into heaven and still be flesh and blood. Yes, their work of blessing Jesus' brethren earned them a place on the new earth.

So to you, what differentiate your salvation from those who face the white throne judgement?

How come you could eternal life without works, but they had to bless Jesus's brethren to enter eternal life?

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