SabbathBlessings said:

It wasn't the Law that killed Uzzah

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You merely try to isolate the Law from God.

There is no isolation from God and His Words

Desk trauma said:

Go on.

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I don't want any warnings.

The Liturgist said:

That’s not Eastern Orthodox doctrine.

You are aware the Orthodox Church officially rejected chiliasm at the second ecumenical council in Constantinople in 381 AD?

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How is this related? The first resurrection is about the patrician families of Rome, the plebs come after. This was simply my point.

ChubbyCherub said:

I know that we have had Tyndale Publishers in our church who often refer to Greek texts and translations, and who are not happy with the NIV translation, for example, due to errors in translating from Greek to Latin to English etc but I have no one sitting down with me to confirm a) provenance/validity of Greek texts being used as a measure b) breaking down the translations re: how they are versus how they should be e.g.

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What version does your church approve of? Perhaps people on CF can help you with good background, history and study supports for some English language Bible the elders at your church do like.

Does your church, local or denomination, have a web site? A link to that might be useful for some of us.

I tend to quote the NIV on CF only because BibleGateway.com: A searchable online Bible in over 150 versions and 50 languages. tends to default to it, and no one on CF is complaining.

stevevw said:

I thought the electromagnetic wave effect at the location of the pyramids has already been established with the Schumann resonance frequency.
Resonating electromagnetic waves with a frequency of around 8 hertz which can be measured in the Earth's atmosphere. This natural phenomenon is called the Schumann resonance frequency.

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What I was asking is whether the Schumann effect actually created any measurable vibrations? Does something with a wavelength of 38 000 km interact with quartz crystals even? It is ~150 000 times the radio frequency resonance frequencies in in the simulation.

stevevw said:

This causes a constant vibration in the quartz crystals.

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Does it?

stevevw said:

So any further effects are building on this. The way the stones are located in relation to each other. The granite chambers are under tremendous pressure and the addition of certain acoustics and all sorts of activity can be produced.

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Are they produced?

stevevw said:

The modelling that the findings are theorised on has only just been done. Still further modelling is needed. Then this has to be physically applied. Getting access to the pyramids for testing is another story.

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Ok, in the mean time they could just test it with a granite block at home?

stevevw said:

I think so far the only on site testing has been on acoustics which shows piezoelectric effects concentrated in the granite chambers. In fact from memory the effect increased as it reached the Kings chamber. So the design at least for sound energy was intentional I think. The chanting and all that.

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Yeah, how often did they chant? Did thjey even chant?

stevevw said:

Yes and I think there are some papers on the granite and basalt stones showing evidence of thermal and/or stress damage.

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That has nothing to do with what was proposed in the article.

stevevw said:

But also I think the reflective outter casing if white or bright would have radiated.

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Radiated what? Reflecting the incoming sunlight? Of course.

stevevw said:

They may have harnessed natural weather events such as thunder storms and lightening.

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Why in the whole wide world would we assume that?

stevevw said:

But just the location with so much quartz crystals and underground water ways. It was an active location in many ways and potentially it seems unreal that the Egyptians would not of at least come to understand all these natural events going on around them.

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Maria Billingsley said:

Did you ever love your Creator when you believed He existed? I have read your thorough knowledge, your intense research and your commitment to establish and prove your findings, but that aside, did you ever love Him?

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I do not recall ever reading where he said he was a believer. Just that he comes from a Christian background.

stevevw said:

Expose the so called leaders who are suppose to be our servants. But who take advantage.

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Just to show this forum I am a an equal opportunity political spotlight I will here publicly state my displeasure with SC Republican Senator Lindsey Graham. He should be replaced!

In Orthodox theology, the Ancient of Days is understood as the Son of God, the second person of the Holy Trinity.

In Daniel's prophecy, the Son of God appears as a distinct figure who approaches the Ancient of Days.

However, they are actually meant to be the same person.

How does Orthodox theology clarify this interesting situation?

I've often mentioned my (old) Presbyterian pastor whom I learnt a lot from, although he discouraged me. The night my father died he turned up in my room.

I was an atheist at the time, but he predicted I'd become Christian, and as part of that "... You will meet a pastor. You'll think he's great, but all he'll do is to discourage you even more!" (than he had himself).

I met the pastor circa 1982/83. When I was going to leave his church in 1991 (I was getting married and moving away) he admitted he had discouraged me, but as I said I still hold him in high respect. Incidentally h was not an admirer of some of the "last days" stuff which comes out of various (mainly Protestant) personalities in the USA in the main, saying "... it's a bit weird..."

But he had some thoughts on the issue. For one thing he was very firm on the business about no man knows the day or the hour of Christ's return. It could be tomorrow, and it could be 10,000 years down the track. We haven't been told.

However I find that if he thought something would happen it did sooner or later. Several of his predictions have come to pass since he died in 1992, including my becoming Catholic (1997); there would be a lot of priestly pedophile cases after I became Catholic (media from around 2002); my sister would get leukemia and not live very long which happened (2005 aged 45); his own eldest son would have a major health breakdown which was a stroke (1996 or 97); there would be a pandemic (Covid 2020); there would be a second Gulf War as the "... Americans will have had enough of Saddam Hussein and they will get rid of him. But I think they will lose a FEW men the next time (2003); I'd make a silly mistake at work and "they" would use that to get rid of me (1995); etc. These were all predicted and they all happened.

He wasn't an admirer of Zionism, commenting that ".... they've served their purpose ..." (it's up to the Jews to recognise Christ, not the other way round). But he also conjectured "I think He (God) is going to drive us off the planet... I think we'll learn to teleport..."

He died in 1992, and (from Wikipedia) "the first successful The first successful experimental quantum teleportation of a photon's polarization was achieved by two independent research groups in 1997", five years later.

It's a long cry from that event to teleporting material objects, and even more so living creatures which have a spirit.

But I think we'll get around that obstacle eventually, although there will most likely be a considerable hiatus between the first inanimate teleportation and the first biological teleportation.

We've moved a long way in space travel since World War II. Robert Goddard's rockets might have gone a couple of hundred feet into the air in the 1920's. The V2's were flying about 250 kms in 1944; and NASA landed men on the moon a mere 25 years later. And of course we now have AI and robotics both of which would be absolutely necessary for a civilisation in space. It's obvious God is letting us do these things, which implies they form part of His plan.

As Dietrich Bonhoeffer might have put it, Man has "Come of Age".

Now suppose his prediction happens, that God does indeed drive us off the planet - what price Jerusalem or for that matter Rome in a civilisation which might be spread through a fair section of the Milky Way? I'm Catholic and I accept the Petrine Chair - Christ was setting up an office and giving the church authority when He declared Peter the Rock.

But I know of no Biblical mandate for Rome to be the "eternal city".

The way politics is going we could well be heading for nuclear wars, and those cities could easily be destroyed.

So I'm not over impressed with hardline pronunciations about either Jerusalem or Rome for that matter. In the end they're just cities.

That's my cold blooded view, and that's what I think.

I don't think the re-kindled bromance will last.

Both have egos that are too large and skin that is too thin for it to last.

Matt5 said:

Where do you think economies come from? The sky? Bad economies require bad decisions by business people. They need to go out of business, so businesses who make good decisions can take over. That process is cut short by government interference when it tries to make the economy better.

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Tariffs.

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It is Israel's acceptance of their Messiah, Jesus, that leads to life from the dead for the whole world. In other words, they must be spiritually reborn.

Israel's acceptance of Jesus as their Messiah depends on them being provoked to jealousy by a community of pagan origin (Romans 11:11).

The way in which other nations receive and accept the gospel is intended to make the Jews jealous.

G-d's strategy is to show mercy to Israel through His congregation (Romans 11:30-32). The fact that the congregation becomes a prophetic witness is directly linked to its stand for Israel and Jerusalem in the place of prayer.

Praying for Israel and Jerusalem is G-d's strategy to release abundance for the nations and mercy for the Jews.

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee. Ps 122:6

Because Jesus committed himself to reigning over the whole earth as King of the Jews from Jerusalem (Mt 23:39), Satan has set himself the goal of destroying the nation of Israel and the city of Jerusalem. If Satan can destroy the Jews, he can expose G-d as a liar and delay his own final judgement in the lake of fire and brimstone (Mt 25:41; Rev 20:10). That is why the enemy is determined to prevent the fulfilment of these promises by any means necessary.

Satan will gather the nations of the earth to his cause. In doing so, he will unleash a wave of global anti-Semitism unlike anything that has ever been seen before. This will escalate in all nations of the earth and actively seek the destruction of Jerusalem under the leadership of the Antichrist (Ps 2:1 .83:5; Joel 3:11; Zec 12:2 .14:2; Zeph 3:8).

The Lord has promised to unleash a pre-emptive strike against the enemy by initiating a prayer movement in the end times that will work in partnership with Him, praying for the salvation of Israel (peace for Jerusalem) and standing in unity with her in the midst of tribulation (Isa 62:6; Ps 122:6).

If Israel is G-d's means of world redemption, the congregation in the nations is the means of Israel's redemption.

I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? G-d forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. Rom 11:11

Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. Rom 11:31

Paul sets the context for his mission among the nations in Romans 9:2-3. It is his great sorrow for his natural brethren (Israel). He explains that he brings honour to his ministry among the nations (Rom 11:13) in order to provoke them (the Jews) to jealousy. Paul wants to see a non-Jewish congregation that enjoys G-d's blessings and demonstrates G-d's presence in such a way that the Jews say, ‘We want what they have.’ The congregation in the nations is G-d's chosen means by which Israel will be provoked to say ‘yes’ to Jesus and His proven grace.

G-d promises that He will do two things concerning the salvation of Israel in response to the prayers of the saints:

1 He will release His voice on earth (spirit of prophecy);
2 He will release supernatural activities on earth (judgements against His enemies).

For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth. And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name. Isa 62:1-2

And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: Joel 2:28

1 The spirit of prophecy is the testimony of Jesus (Rev 19:10). G-d promises to release authentic, apostolic Christianity in response to the prayers of the saints. G-d will release a revival among Gentile Christians to provoke Israel to jealousy.

2 G-d will raise up messengers who will proclaim the ‘gospel of the kingdom of G-d’ (Mt 24:14) with boldness, authority and clarity especially to the unsaved Jews in the midst of the tribulation.

And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come. Joel 2:30-31

There will be supernatural demonstrations of G-d's power on a scale and with an intensity never seen before. The outpouring of the Spirit upon all flesh and the cosmic signs are unique in their universality and intensity.

G-d will judge the nations (including Israel).

And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the Lord hath said, and in the remnant whom the Lord shall call. Joel 2:32

The end result of G-d's actions is the liberation of Jerusalem from its enemies, the salvation of ‘all Israel’ and the full establishment of G-d's kingdom on earth.

And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. Rom 11:26-27

G-d's end-time work is triggered by his zeal for Jerusalem and by the praying congregation, which aligns itself with His heart and prays for the salvation of Israel with fasting and holy gatherings all over the world.

Therefore also now, saith the Lord, turn ye even to me with all your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning: And rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the Lord your G-d: for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil. Who knoweth if he will return and repent, and leave a blessing behind him; even a meat offering and a drink offering unto the Lord your G-d? Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly: Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet. Let the priests, the ministers of the Lord, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say, Spare thy people, O Lord, and give not thine heritage to reproach, that the heathen should rule over them: wherefore should they say among the people, Where is their G-d? Joel 2:12-17

The main task of the congregation is to pray for the salvation of Israel and to provoke the Jews to jealousy (by becoming a powerful prophetic witness) so that Israel may receive G-d's mercy.

Today, G-d is calling forth ‘watchmen’ (Isa 62:6) from among the nations who, like Paul and David, carry His heart for Jerusalem, fight in prayer for Israel's salvation, and will ‘give Him no rest’ for Zion's sake.

This prayer movement will culminate in the return of Jesus, the salvation of all Israel, and the completion of G-d's Kingdom ‘on earth as it is in heaven.’

What is our mission to Israel according to the Word of G-d?

Pray/intercede (Ps 122:6; Isa 62:6-7, Rom 10:1)

Christians pray for Israel because the Bible calls on them to pray for the peace of Jerusalem and bless Israel. These prayers are based on the belief that G-d has a special covenant with the Jewish people and that Israel plays an important role in His plan of salvation. Such prayers typically include requests for peace, comfort and protection for Israel.

Show love (Isa 41:10; 43:1-4; Jer 31:3 .9)

Christians should show love towards Israel. This love is demonstrated by acknowledging G-d's love for Israel, understanding Israel's biblical significance for the history of salvation, and seeing the people of Israel as part of G-d's plan, as stated in Romans 11:29.

Shine light/be a witness (Mt 5:16; Rom 11:11; Acts 1:8)

The Christian witness to all peoples, including Israel, is a mission to let light shine and to be a witness. Since Israel is the starting point of the Christian message, this witness also has special significance for the Jewish people.

Bless (Gen 12:3; 27:29; Num 24:9; Mt 25:40 .45)

Christians who bless Israel expect G-d's blessing in return.

Comfort the Jewish people (Isa 40:1-2)

Christians are called upon to comfort Israel and stand by them in a time of restoration, to proclaim their sins as forgiven and to provide them with comfort and encouragement.

Help Jews return to Israel (Isa 49:22)

G-d promises to make his power available to the nations in order to enable the return of His people. The verse describes how the nations will bring back the sons and daughters of the people of Israel on their arms and shoulders. It is a promise of hope that even the Gentiles (non-Jews) will play a role in the restoration of Israel.

Support Israel materially/financially (Rom 15:27)

The Gentile Christians participated in the ‘spiritual goods’ (the Gospel, faith and salvation) through the missionaries from Jerusalem (such as Paul himself). This spiritual fellowship gave Paul a moral obligation (debt) to serve Jewish Christians in material need with ‘earthly goods’ (financial or material assistance).

Its strange how the very things that people called Trump or accused him of doing were being done by his accusers. This is usually the case. Funny how we see ourselves in others.

When someone is fixated on someone elses behaviour its usually because they are seeing that behaviour in themselves. The old saying 'don't throw stones if you live in a glass house'. Or 'take the massive log out of your own eye before you try to remove the speck in your brothers eye'.

Oompa Loompa said:

First, there are already processes in place for dealing with unlawful orders such as the chain of command and the judge advocates. Second, where the heck were Democrats when service members were being kicked out of the military for refusing the COVID vaccines? Third, what illegal orders are these democrats talking about?

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You can make a reasonable case that orders to bomb boats with alleged smugglers are illegal. You can also reasonably argue that use of the national guard in cities has often been illegal. Judge rules Trump's National Guard deployment to D.C. is illegal. In both cases, however, these issues are going to be dealt with in the courts. It would not be a good idea for individual soldiers to disobey.

On the other hand, Trump has been pushing the boundaries of presidential powers. It's not unreasonable to ask whether in the next 3 years he might go further and issue orders that should be rejected.

It's not so clear that the chain of command is going to work in this case. There's reason to think that JAG's are being overruled by politicians, as noted in a previous article. The Comey prosecution is another example of the same thing: the real prosecutors were fired, and someone brought in whose only qualification was a willingness to do the prosecution. This is not an administration that can be relied on to use internal controls.

Colo Millz said:

May there not be very many other OT passages that can be interpreted allegorically?

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They are all allegory/similitude/parable/figures/types

But of what are always the questions

Apple Sky said:

Sorry - but I think you may have your page numbers wrong.

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They're posts not pages.

Homily Monday, November 24 2025

34th OT



Daniel 1:1-6, 8-20

The question of food in Daniel's time is not an issue for Catholics. Except for meat offerings to idols.



The example we can draw from this is to distance ourselves from evil and allow ourselves to be loved by God.



Allowing ourselves to be loved by God, drives away evil.



Luke 21:1-4

What Jesus says here is a lesson in itself:

"Those others have all made offerings from their surplus wealth, but she, from her poverty, has offered her whole livelihood."



As we know, Jesus wants to guide us to the realities of heaven.



The "surplus wealth" is a danger of pride.



But, for the little woman, she is present with her heart, and in her heart is peace.



Let us be like this little woman who allows God's Love to go ‘round.



Let us allow all people to discover simple joy within themselves.



God's Love is in all hearts.



Biblical texts: NAB-RE

Normand Thomas.

In the United States of America, where I live, marked on our calendars is a yearly day of celebration and thanksgiving to God. Evidently, one of our former presidents by the name of Abraham Lincoln, who was later assassinated, declared it a national holiday in 1863 during the Civil War. “Lincoln’s proclamation was a way to unify the nation during the war by establishing a day for ‘Thanksgiving and Prayer’” (source Google AI). And this day of celebration will be this Thursday, November 27, 2025.

But for us who have trusted in Jesus Christ to be Lord and Savior of our lives, every day should be a day of “Thanksgiving and Prayer.” Every day we should be giving thanks to the Lord for the breath of life and for his love and forgiveness, and for saving us from our sins, and for giving us new life in him to be lived for his glory, and for his purposes, and for his praise. And this is not to be verbal only, but from our hearts of gratitude, and shown in how we live our lives in submission to God and to his purpose for our lives.

For thanksgiving to God is not in words only or it is not true thanksgiving. For if we are truly thankful that he saved us from our sins, and that he has given us new lives in him to be lived for his purpose, then we should be following him with our lives in doing what he commands. We should be walking in obedience to his commands, and sin must no longer be our practice. This doesn’t mean that we will never sin (1 John 2:1-2), or that we will never fail, but day by day we should be following Jesus with our lives.


Yes! As Jesus’s true sheep (followers) we are to be listening to (heeding, following, obeying) his voice, and we should be following (obeying, abiding by) his teachings and his commandments (New Covenant). And we are those to whom he gives eternal life, and we will never perish, and no one can snatch us out of his hands and the hands of God the Father because we pay close attention to our Lord’s words, and we love and obey our Lord and his teachings, and we follow him wherever he leads us in doing what he says.

And that is the best thanksgiving and praise that we can give to God, is when we bow to him in submission to his will and we follow him wherever he leads us in doing all that he commands that we must do as his followers. Yes, I am certain that he loves to hear us sing praises to him and to give him verbal thanks and praise, but provided that our praise is sincere and that it is accompanied by genuine submission to him as Lord of our lives. For the praise that he desires most is our surrender of our lives to him as our Lord.

And this will be evidenced by us serving him with our lives in doing what he has called us to do collectively and individually. And it will be shown through our humility in recognizing that all we have is from the Lord and not of our own doing, and when we become his true and abiding sheep (followers). For true thanksgiving to God is not in lip service only, but in surrender to his will in doing all that he commands that we must do as his followers. And the Lord is good, and his lovingkindness and faithfulness is everlasting. Amen!

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

My Sheep

Based off John 10:1-30 NIV
An Original Work / June 24, 2012
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

My sheep hear me. They know me.
They listen to my voice and obey.
I call them and lead them.
They know my voice, so they follow me.
They will never follow strangers.
They will run away from them.
The voice of a stranger they know not;
They do not follow him.

So, I tell you the truth that
I am the gate, so you enter in.
Whoever does enter
Will find forgiveness and will be saved.
Nonetheless whoever enters
Not by the gate; other way,
He is the thief and a robber.
Listen not, the sheep to him.

Oh, I am the Good Shepherd,
Who laid his own life down for the sheep.
I know them. They know me.
They will live with me eternally.
The thief only comes to steal and
Kill and to destroy the church.
I have come to give you life that
You may have it to the full…

They know my voice, so they follow me.

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The Sheep of His Pasture
An Original Work / November 23, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

As a young Christian and someone who was into Led Zeplin, Floyd, Hendrix, and Cream ect Phil Keaggy filled that gap well. Even better as even his guitar work sounded Christian lol. I remember having the Sony Walkman and listening walking down the street or on a bus. It was great.

My favorite song was 'Time'

I love the studio version of the original album 'Love Broke Through'. But I also like this later version from a few years ago.

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Oour responsibility lies in working for the Lord, whether it is in “looking after orphans or widows in distress” (James 1:27), giving to the hungry, the naked, visiting those in prison (Matthew 25:35-36), serving in our workplace (Colossians 3:22), or doing whatever we do (Colossians 3:23). And our motivation is that we have God’s own promise that our work “is not in vain” in the Lord “since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving” (Colossians 3:24).

But you can't be blessed and oppose the 10 commandments, can you? You can't sin and be blessed? One has to go with the other, right? Maybe both need displayed. Always half stories and this is how we've lost our way, IMO

NewLifeInChristJesus said:

16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.

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Excellent citing. Shall not fulfill never said we won't have the lusts to contend with.

The lusts are in fact demonic in origin. We are all "tempted" in mind. Often quite subtly I hear. Most think it's just them, but it's not.

There's a very good reason to take "every thought" captive. Captives belong in jail.

When Paul says "bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ" just how might that apply to our adversary, the tempter (or his own unseen influencers)?

We know where the Word is sown, Satan steals, resists, tempts, etc.

So, anyone can test this theory for themselves.

How many times has any believer read Mark 4:15 and said to themselves, "that doesn't apply to you because you are a believer?"

I did, perhaps thousands of times as I've read scriptures a lot for a long time, before it finally hit me, that it DOES happen to me. Kind of an Oh Crap moment for me because, you see, I had been in DENIAL of Jesus' Own Words, openly so, and never saw it or realized that voice in my head doing the DENYING was "not me."

Welcome to the wrestling match