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  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

"Don't Give up the Ship"

And where is this happening? Cite Court case if you would please.
Congress spoke clearly in 1878 when it passed the Posse Comitatus Act, prohibitingthe use of the U.S. military to execute domestic law. Nearly 140 years later, Defendants—President Trump, Secretary of Defense Hegseth, and the Department of Defense—deployed the National Guard and Marines to Los Angeles, ostensibly to quell a rebellionand ensure that federal immigration law was enforced. There were indeed protests in LosAngeles, and some individuals engaged in violence. Yet there was no rebellion, nor wascivilian law enforcement unable to respond to the protests and enforce the law.

Because there is an ongoing risk that Defendants will act unlawfullyand thereby injure Plaintiffs, Governor Newsom and the State of California, the CourtENJOINS Defendants from violating the Posse Comitatus Act as detailed below.
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Berkeley Teacher Plots ‘War’ On Conservative Students: ‘By All Means Necessary’

The vast majority of violent rhetoric, the vast majority of attempts to silence and control those who disagree, and the vast majority of violent actions are coming from opponents of conservatives.
This has been soundly refuted in other threads, as well as in this one. How many times do you have to lose this argument?
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What we need is an economy that works for most Americans.....

While that wouldn't necessarily be my first choice for how to structure an economy, it's certainly not the main barrier to having an economy that "works for everyone".
As a libertarian do you think federal meddling is going to fix the economy for everyone? That there is some benevolent motive from the federal overlords that is bound to bring us into utopia?

The whole framing of the issue as, "How the federal government can create an economy that works for everyone," is remarkably naive. It is just another symptom of the top-downism that is the problem in the first place.
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Do the Ten Commandments still apply under the new covenant today?

And we are not under the LAW but under Grace , Rom 6:14.

Do you have a verse !!

If you say we are , can. you EPLAIN how anyone can. be saved under the NEW COVENANT.

And you EXPLAIN HEB. 9:18. , PLEASE ??
dan p
Romans 3:25, James 2:26 etc

Hebrews 9:18, it's about the new way to God through the new covenant. this knowledge which was kept hidden since the time of the old covenant. Now we can know this mystery by the teachings of Jesus and the Apostles. Col 1:25,26
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He’s a citizen with a Real ID. ICE detained him anyway. Twice.

Insurrection and sedition are serious offenses, and we have come as close to those in the last year as any other time since the Civil War. For something that is well known to the public and has been done before, a lawsuit is the proper course for those who think it is un-Constitutional.
According to whom?
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What is the meaning of Total Depravity?

Your position just makes grace into classic legalism
It's OK to be obligated to be good (Rom 8:12-14)- it's very good, even- but with a righteousness apart from the law (Rom 3:21), apart from legalism IOW. Unless God created you to be a sinner, then such a righteousness certainly must exist. This is not a "righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ—the righteousness that comes from God on the basis of faith" (Phil 3:9). This righteousness comes as God the Holy Spirit indwells us. That's the chief difference between the old and new convenants: reconciliation resulting in the union with God that man was made for: "Apart from Me you can do nothing" ( John 15:5).
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the myth of flat earth debunked again

They have none. That's why.
It just amazes me that anybody would seriously believe the Earth is flat.
You mean like every major character from the bible? Moses, the Prophets, Joshua (who prayed, and the sun stood still in the sky).
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Death?

As an FYI, this topic is already being discussed here

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Why do people hate ICE...

Maybe they should stop lying about the citizens they shoot and/or arrest for protesting their actions.

Federal prosecutors drop charges against Marimar Martinez, woman shot by CBP agent in Chicago

In a statement on the decision to dismiss the charges, U.S. Attorney's office spokesman Joseph Fitzpatrick said in a statement that federal prosecutors are "constantly evaluating new facts and information relating to cases and investigations arising out of Operation Midway Blitz, the largest ever law enforcement surge in the Northern District of Illinois."

In a court filing, her attorneys pointed to body camera video they said shows the agent turned his wheel and caused the crash before he jumped out of the car and started shooting.

Meantime, federal prosecutors on Thursday also dismissed charges against 70-year-old U.S. Air Force veteran Dana Briggs, who was arrested in September during protests in Broadview.

He was initially charged with felony assaulting or resisting federal agents, but the charges were downgraded to a misdemeanor in October. All charges against him have now been dropped.
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SO HOW DO YOU KNOW YOU ARE SAVED ??

John 3:5
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

Every person is born through a WATER SAC i.e. born of WATER.

And 1 John 4:7 applies to every person as well.

Therefore, love ALL neighbors. We'll be spending eternity with them all
And 1 John 5:18 says that whosoever is BORN. of God does NOT. SIN. !!

And in 1. John 1:8 says If we say. that we have no SIN WE DECIVE. OURSELFS and the TRUTH is nor in us !!

What says you !!

dan p
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Trump’s Domestic Use of Military Set to Get Worse, Leaked DHS/DoD Memo Shows: LA "hasn't been perfect" but indicates what's coming "for years to come"

DOJ dismisses charges against 2 people accused of ramming vehicle of federal agents conducting Chicago immigration sweeps

U.S District Judge Georgia Alexakis dismissed the charges against Marimar Martinez and Anthony Ruiz after the Department of Justice abruptly requested her to do so.

The decision by the DOJ to dismiss the charges against Martinez and Ruiz came a day after a federal judge in Chicago ordered the government to turn over to the defense additional text messages by the CBP agents involved in the incident.

Alexakis dismissed the charges without [sic] prejudice, meaning the case cannot be brought back. [CBS says it was with prejudice.]

An October DHS statement said CBP agents opened fire on Martinez in self-defense, alleging she was "armed with a semi-automatic weapon" [it was in her purse and legal] and was driving one of three vehicles that "cornered" and rammed the CBP agents' vehicles.
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Are the Jews Israel, or is the church Israel? Or does it depend on the context of the passage?

Oh! Really? We are now ethnic Israel? Wow! Never heard that before. Strange belief.
You asked for simple answers, I did my best.

Its only a strange belief if one has allowed themselves to be tethered to a single side of the issue.

Satan loves this or that questions which keep the children of God, and would be children of God alike, in constant conflict and turmoil. As is evidenced so clearly in these forums.
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James Comey case: Ex-special counsel John Durham undercut case against James Comey in interview with prosecutors: Sources

Judge grills government over apparent lapses in Comey indictment

The case's prosecutor said the full grand jury didn't see the final indictment.

In reversal, DOJ says Comey indictment was reviewed by full grand jury

In a reversal from what the Department of Justice represented in court and in written filings Wednesday, federal prosecutors said Thursday that the full grand jury reviewed the indictment of former FBI Director James Comey.

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The Most Nothing


Hello back and welcome to CF! :wave:

The most nothing, is there even such a thing as the most nothing? Yes, there can be less nothingness than nothing, it is timelessness. What makes timelessness more nothing than nothing is the fact that nothing can age, thus making it less nothing than timelessness.

Sounds pro.

There's spacelessness too!
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B flat B♭

Oh, so we're all pagan now o_O for knowing the earth is flat, well, I suppose it makes a change from being called retarded or stupid. :rolleyes:
You don’t “know” the earth is flat. You’ve got no evidence, nothing, just an irrational belief that is refuted by the evidence all around us.
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The rise of menace as a mainstream political tool

He's actually right, but it's not the battle he thinks it is. The real battle is to prevent the church from being overrun with the heresy of placing political power and influence over the gospel. You can be both conservative and denounce the violent and dehumanizing rhetoric sweeping through Republican politics - and liberal Christians can do the same when it occurs from Democrats. Unfortunately, Christians are choosing to remain silent on that topic even while often repeating the most opposed-to-scripture talking points of their political idols.
The true Church, which is the actual body of Christ, the Israel of God, and the Temple made without hands, has no part in this conflict, our battles are not with flesh and blood.

The godless entity passing itself off as "the church" was overrun quite some time ago.
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Chains of Bondage

THE LAW IS FULFILLED
“Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.” Romans 13:8–10 (KJV).

And everyone who has come into the new covenant knows that this does not mean freedom to practice sin, because God’s will is in our new nature, in our hearts. “We have the mind of Christ.” 1 Cor. 2:16.
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What happens if someone dies before they became a believer, is it their fault?

Adam and Eve were created with sinless and had free will
But free will would eventually allow them to eventually make a self-indulgent choice. It was inevitable, just as telling a child 'hot' means nothing until they come to an understanding.
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does it do me any good to read a couple verses of the Bible each day?

I had thought, I am reading so little why even bother right now.

is this the wrong kind of thinking? I have so much going on in life with work, right now it seems I don't have the time to do anything
Make more time for God.

Get out of bed earlier.
let TV/Internet entertainment time drop out in favor of reading the Word of God
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