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Michie · 2025-12-11T11:01:45-0600

Brightfame52 · 2025-12-11T10:50:20-0600

Bro.T said:
Over the years many have taught various ways to receive everlasting life. No wonder the world is full of so many denominations. All of these different doctrines, seemingly coming from the bible, tend only to confuse people. Most people don't know what to believe and simply choose not to attend any church. Salvation, what would you trade fore it? This is a question you should ask yourself. The answer should be nothing. What people fail to realize is Adam sin and brought forth the first and second death, and that second is the lake of fire. Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: (Romans 5: 12)

So at this point the creation is lock under these two death, this is before Jesus of course. I find that a lot of people don’t understand this. We have a lot righteous prophets and people in the old testament, but still lock under those two death. We also have a lot of evil people in the old testament who will still be lock under those two death. If you are lock under those two death, this mean you will be raise from dead, and Judged, then headed straight for the lake of fire. So now, Jesus came and die for the world and bless us with grace, so that our righteousness which will remove the second death.

Jesus says in Luke: 31 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick. 32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. See sin is what got us these two death in the first place. Let’s take a look at the biblical definition of sin. 1John 3:4) Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Now we have just read the biblical definition of sin, the transgression (breaking) of the law (commandments.)

So when you sin, you transgress the law, what law? The Commandments brother and Sisters. And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it. Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. (2 John 1: 6,8,9)

So if you think because Jesus die for our sins, and you don’t have to keep the law (Commandments) then you are sinning, and Paul told us in Romans 6: 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

We all have to do the samething to get in the kingdom of God, and one of those things is keeping the Commandments. A man asked Jesus this very question, "...What good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?", and Jesus replied, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. (Matthew 19:16-19). This was a direct answer to a direct question, which all of us will do well to take heed to. Anybody can claim to have faith, but actions speak louder than words. Faith and works go together and you can't have one without the other. "Here is the patience of the saints; here are they that keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus" (Revelation 14:12).

This sounds like salvation by works and forsakes Salvation by Grace. It elevates man and dishonors God.

Hentenza · 2025-12-11T10:44:19-0600

samaus123456789 said:
I pasted what I wrote into chat gpt and it gave me this

Rev 12 commentary

1. THE WOMAN = ISRAEL Revelation 12:1 uses Genesis 37:9–10. Sun = Jacob. Moon = Rachel. Twelve stars = tribes of Israel. Thus the woman = covenant Israel, the Old Covenant people who produced the Messiah, the apostles, and the first Judean Christian remnant.

2. THE MALE CHILD = JESUS Revelation 12:5: Messiah destined to rule (Psalm 2). Family flees to Egypt to escape Herod. Maybe they were gone 3.5 years. Don't know what the Jesus caught up to heaven thing is.

3. THE HERODS = all the different HEADS & HORNS OF THE DRAGON/BEAST Herod the Great — tried to kill infant Jesus (Matthew 2:13–18) Herod Archelaus — avoided by Joseph due to violence (Matthew 2:22) Herod Antipas — killed John (Mark 6), mocked Jesus (Luke 23:7–11) Herod Philip — tetrarch Herod Agrippa I — killed James, imprisoned Peter (Acts 12) Herod Agrippa II — opposed Paul (Acts 25–26), backed Rome Herodian women — Bernice, Drusilla, Salome (Acts 24:24; Josephus) All persecuted Christ and His people. They were the dragon’s earthly instrument.

4. THE WAR IN HEAVEN WAS LITERAL Jesus Himself said: Luke 10:18 — “I saw Satan FALL like lightning from heaven.” John 12:31 — “NOW is the judgment of this world; NOW shall the prince of this world be CAST OUT.” Revelation 12:7–9: Michael defeats Satan; Satan expelled; Satan descends to attack Jerusalem and the Church. Daniel 12:1: “Michael shall stand up… there shall be a time of trouble.” This time = 66–70 AD

5. 1 ENOCH 70-GENERATION PROPHECY 1 Enoch 10: angels bound “for 70 generations, until the day of judgment.” Using Septuagint genealogies: Enoch → 70 generations → Jesus. Thus Jesus arrives precisely when the countdown ends. The war in heaven, Satan’s fall, and Jerusalem’s destruction complete Enoch’s prophecy

6. THE SECOND COMING WAS LITERAL AND VISIBLE IN 70 AD Revelation 1:7 — “Every eye shall SEE Him, even those who pierced Him.” “Those who pierced Him” = the Sanhedrin still alive. Jesus predicted this exact visible event: Matthew 24:30 — “They shall SEE the Son of Man coming in the clouds…” Matthew 16:27 — “The Son of Man will come… WITH HIS ANGELS.

Matthew 26:64 — “YOU will SEE the Son of Man at the right hand of Power, coming in the clouds.” Judeans literally saw Jesus above Jerusalem: — At the right hand of the Father — In the clouds — Surrounded by all the holy angels

7. JOSEPHUS CONFIRMS some SKY SIGNS Wars 6.5.3 (Whiston): “Before sunset, chariots and troops of soldiers in their armor were seen running among the clouds and surrounding cities." Tacitus said the same, and the same kind of thing was seen when God was judging Jerusalem in 1/2 Maccabees in the 100s BC

8. THE MOURNING OF JUDEA Revelation 1:7 — “All tribes of the LAND will mourn.” Two types: • Terror — those dying in Jerusalem saw Jesus and mourned in horror. • Repentance — Christian Judeans fleeing to Pella saw Jesus and mourned for rejecting Him. Fulfills Zechariah 12:10 — “They shall look upon Me whom they pierced and mourn.”
9. THE WOMAN’S FLIGHT = PELLA Revelation 12:14–16: The Judean Christians are taken out of the promise land on Eagle’s wings), just like God took their ancient ancestors out of Egypt on eagles wings (Exodus 19:4. They had to cross the Jordan to get into the promise land now they are fleeing the old covenant promise land over the Jordan to Pella. The devil tries to flood the Jordan but God swallows the water. Flight to Pella - Wikipedia

10. THE WOES OF JESUS = THE WOES OF REVELATION Matthew 23 — Seven Woes upon Pharisees: “All these things shall come upon THIS generation.” Revelation 8–12 — Three Woes upon Jerusalem, “the city where their Lord was crucified” (Rev 11:8). Revelation’s woes = execution of Matthew 23.

11. REVELATION 9 — APOLLYON = TITUS OF LEGIO XV APOLLINARIS Revelation 9:11 — “Apollyon” = Apollo. Titus commanded Legion XV Apollinaris (Apollo’s legion). Locusts = armies (Joel 1–2). Roman siege machinery fits the imagery. Thus: locusts = Roman armies; king = Apollo → Titus.

12. REVELATION 11 — TRAMPLING OF THE TEMPLE Revelation 11:2 — Holy city trampled 42 months = 66–70 AD. Revelation 11:8 — “Where their Lord was crucified” = Jerusalem. Revelation 11:19 — Heavenly ark appears; earthly Temple replaced.

that is the main parts of Rev 1-12 I know. In the first few pages of Rev 1 Jesus said the time is near, soon, at hand, and he tells one church he is coming back in their generation. Rev 1-12 was just Gods judgement on Judea for killing Jesus, the apostles and for all the blood shed in history back to Abel.

Rev 13-22 is future still not until 4400-4500 AD based on 1 Enoch's 10,000 year prophecy
Jesus ben Ananias - Wikipedia sounds like one of the two witnesses but does not match. whoever they were they happened. gospel of nicodemus, history of joseph the carpenter, apocalypse of peter all internally written pre 70 ad, and i believe are inspired said it was going to be enoch and elijah

In your point 6 you claim that Jesus second coming has already happened, however, Rev. 19, which you state that is yet to come, describes the actual second coming of Christ. How do you account for the discrepancy?

JM · 2025-12-11T10:12:40-0600

It knows your bias, it already knows you are an Adventist...that's who AI works.

BobRyan said:
I did not mention my bias. I never asked for the Adventist church to even be in the list.

The only theological POV I specified was "Sola scriptura testing of doctrine".

If your point is that such a search criteria is just another way to say "select the Adventist denomination" , then I am more than a little bit surprised that you consider this to be a clear selection for "just the Adventist denomination

I am pretty sure that if I had asked the question "which denomination would Dr. Ben Carson, or Ellen White prefer", I would get "Adventist" as the answer but I did not specify that kind of selection criteria

Michie · 2025-12-11T10:10:14-0600

Before Pius IX had restored the episcopal hierarchy in 1853 with the papal bull Ex Qua Die (1853), Catholics in the Netherlands were forbidden by law to publicly manifest their Faith. The Church was reduced to scattered groups, which would secretly gather for Mass celebrated by fugitive priests inside sheds, attics and warehouses.

The Netherlands was left without bishops after the last Vicar Apostolic of the Netherlands signed a notarial act in 1709, resigning from the mission entrusted to him by the Holy See. Thus, many Catholics in the Missio Hollandica were deprived of the sacrament of confirmation.1

Only after the French Revolution, did the status of the Church in the Netherlands improve slightly, whereby Catholics in the nineteenth century started to mobilize against the persecution of the Church.

This fight was initially led by the convert Joachim le Sage ten Broek. In 1818, he founded the monthly magazine De Godsdienstvriend and in 1835 the weekly magazine Catholijke Nederlandse Stemmen. The Catholic leader frequently engaged in polemics with Protestants and also inspired the founding of other Catholic magazines and newspapers in the Netherlands.2

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The Rise and Fall of Liberal Catholicism in the Netherlands - The American TFP

Before Pius IX had restored the episcopal hierarchy in 1853 with the papal bull Ex Qua Die (1853), Catholics in the Netherlands were forbidden by law to public…

www.tfp.org

Brightfame52 · 2025-12-11T10:08:48-0600

Dikaioumenoi said:
, but the central idea is ability, not the fact of coming itself.

I disagree, it includes the coming. Seems you still leaving room for mans will to seal the deal

Dikaioumenoi said:
I do agree with you when you say "the drawing results in discipleship and fellowship with Christ,"

Doesnt seem like it

Dikaioumenoi said:
but I do not think you can conclude that from "no one can come to me unless drawn." All that "no one can come to me unless drawn" tells us is that the drawing is necessary in order for coming to occur, not sufficient to produce coming.

I disagree, that defeats the need of drawing to Christ, you may as well say man has the freewill to come to Christ

Dikaioumenoi said:
What does entail sufficiency, however, is the final clause, "and I will raise him up on the last day." It is that statement that tells us the one drawn/enabled = the one who actually comes and is raised.

Now that's a contradiction. No disrespect but you seem doubleminded on this matter.

essentialsaltes · 2025-12-11T10:02:44-0600

Jury selection to begin in federal trial of Milwaukee judge accused of helping undocumented man evade arrest

samaus123456789 · 2025-12-11T09:58:31-0600

Understood.
Here is a full, rigorous analytical method that assumes:

⭐ Pseudepigrapha does not exist

Meaning:

If a text says “I, X, wrote this”, then we treat that authorship claim as true, unless it is literally impossible.
If a text is anonymous, we do not assume later forgery or fictional attribution.
We never claim “someone pretended to be Moses / Enoch / Ezra / Paul.”
We treat all authorship claims as genuine unless external evidence forces a different conclusion.

This creates a completely different dating method — one that fully allows prophecy, respects authorship claims, and refuses late skeptical re-dating unless absolutely necessary.

Below is the upgraded framework.

⭐ FOUNDATIONAL RULES

✔ Rule 1 — Prophecy is real and allowed

Prophetic accuracy is not evidence of late composition.

✔ Rule 2 — Authorship claims are assumed honest

If the text identifies its author, we accept it unless:

language from thousands of years later appears
the text references events far after the author’s life as past history (not prophecy)

✔ Rule 3 — Oldest manuscript data only tells us that the text existed before that date

Manuscripts do not determine original composition dates.

✔ Rule 4 — No anonymous text is assumed forged

If anonymous, we leave it anonymous — we don’t invent pseudonymity.

✔ Rule 5 — Ancient communities preserved authorship correctly unless strong contrary evidence exists

This treats ancient Jewish and Christian testimony as reliable.

⭐ PART 1 — HOW TO DATE A TEXT WHEN PSEUDEPIGRAPHA IS REMOVED AS A CATEGORY

Normally, scholars re-date texts because they reject prophecy or assume pseudepigrapha.

Under this method those reasons are gone, so we date texts using only:

✔ Language

✔ Culture

✔ Historical background

✔ Intertextual relationships

✔ Archaeology

✔ The text’s OWN claims

Here is the step-by-step process.

⭐ STEP 1 — Accept the internal authorial claim as true

Examples:

Daniel → written by Daniel in Babylon
Isaiah → written by Isaiah son of Amoz
1 Enoch → written (or dictated) by Enoch
Jubilees → written by Moses via an angel
2 Esdras → written by Ezra
Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs → written by Jacob’s sons
Revelation → written by John
Psalm superscriptions → written by David, Asaph, Moses, etc.

We treat these as intended historical fact, not literary devices.

Only if internal contradictions arise will we reconsider.

⭐ STEP 2 — Test the linguistic era of the text

Language cannot be faked easily across centuries.

We examine:

vocabulary
grammar
syntax
orthography
loanwords
idioms
linguistic drift

This gives an approximate dating range.

BUT if the linguistic era conflicts with the author’s lifetime, we explore explanations other than pseudepigrapha, such as:

✔ later scribal updating

✔ preservation through translation

✔ revised editions by disciples

✔ transmission into later linguistic forms

Same as what happened with:

the Hebrew of the Torah (copied for 1000+ years)
the Greek of Daniel (translated, not original)
Proverbs (royal collections added over time)

None of these imply forgery.

⭐ STEP 3 — Determine the cultural background of the text

Prophecy does not describe:

calendar systems
priestly rituals
purity practices
economic life
social structure
administration
temple layout

If the cultural background fits the author’s time → authorship is strengthened.

If it reflects later culture → use scribal updating, not pseudonymity.

Example:
Moses’ writings may show later Hebrew style because scribes recopied it for centuries.

⭐ STEP 4 — Identify historical assumptions as current reality

Ask:

Is the temple standing?
Which empire rules?
What political offices exist?
What weapons or technology are normal?
What borders or nations are active?

These show what the author saw, not prophecy.

Prophecy predicts the future; it does NOT describe present institutions in the wrong century.

Example:
If a text references Rome as already ruling → cannot be 600 BC.

But if a text predicts Rome → that is allowed.

⭐ STEP 5 — Use intertextual relationships correctly

If Text A uses Text B → B must be older.

But we do NOT say:

“Text A rewrites Genesis; therefore, it must be late and pseudepigraphic.”

We say:

“Text A knows Genesis, so it came after Genesis.”

Simple, clean, no skepticism.

⭐ PART 2 — HOW TO HANDLE MANUSCRIPT EVIDENCE WITHOUT FALSE ASSUMPTIONS

Most late-dating arguments depend on:

“The oldest manuscript is from year X, so the text must have been written around year X.”

This is incorrect.

Here is the correct method:

✔ Oldest manuscript = latest possible date, not earliest.

✔ Transmission explains later language.

✔ Absence of early manuscripts proves nothing.

Most ancient texts lost 90% of manuscripts.

✔ Prophecy is allowed, so fulfilled predictions do not require late dates.

⭐ PART 3 — PRACTICAL EXAMPLES OF HOW THIS METHOD CHANGES TEXT ANALYSIS

✔ Daniel

Under this method:

Linguistically possible for 6th century
Culture fits Babylon/Persia
Explicit authorial claims stand
Prophecy allowed
Manuscripts from 150 BC do NOT date composition
Early Jewish canon accepts Daniel as ancient

→ Daniel = 6th century BC
No “Maccabean forgery.”

✔ Isaiah

Under this method:

Isaiah is one book
Later-sounding Hebrew can be scribal updating or dictated prophecy
Prophecy of Cyrus is allowed
Early Jewish tradition strongly supports unity
No pseudepigrapha category to divide the text

→ Isaiah written by Isaiah (8th century BC)
No Deutero- or Trito-Isaiah theory required.

✔ 1 Enoch

If pseudepigrapha does not exist:

We accept the attribution to Enoch
Later Hebrew/Aramaic forms = transmission
Prophecy allowed
Watchers story predates flood in narrative
Qumran manuscripts reflect preservation, not date of origin

→ Core Enochic writings extremely ancient
Later expansions possible, but not pseudonymous.

⭐ PART 4 — FINAL CHECKLIST (NO PSEUDEPIGRAPHA ALLOWED)

When analyzing any ancient text:

✔ 1. Take internal authorship claims as genuine

✔ 2. Examine language for transmission-era effects

✔ 3. Identify cultural background (prophecy doesn’t change this)

✔ 4. Interpret prophecy as prediction, not evidence of late date

✔ 5. Treat early tradition as reliable

✔ 6. Treat oldest manuscripts as minimum age

✔ 7. Avoid all “forgery” or “fictional attribution” explanations

This is a completely valid approach historically as long as you apply it consistently.

essentialsaltes · 2025-12-11T09:55:33-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Ex-CEO of Abercrombie & Fitch arrested on sex-trafficking charges

Prison officials tell judge ex-Abercrombie & Fitch CEO is competent to stand trial

[HIs lawyers] had said at least four medical professionals concluded that Jeffries’ cognitive issues were “progressive and incurable” and that he would not “regain his competency and cannot be restored to competency in the future.”

[Prison doctor disagrees with the docs for hire.]

Nithavela · 2025-12-11T09:49:35-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Judge orders immediate release of Kilmar Abrego Garcia from immigration detention
Judge Paula Xinis said he has been detained "without lawful authority.”

U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis said in her order on Thursday that "since Abrego Garcia's wrongful detention in El Salvador, he has been re-detained, again without lawful authority."

Xinis said that the absence of a removal order prevents the government from removing Abrego Garcia from the U.S.

Judge Xinis, the judge in Abrego Garcia's immigration case, in August blocked the government from removing him from the United States until the habeas case challenging his removal was resolved in court.

samaus123456789 · 2025-12-11T09:41:49-0600

Love Fountain said:
Hello samaus123456789,

Jesus confirmed the order of the Hebrew Scriptures in the three sections of the Law, the Prophets and the Psalms(writings) that today is known as the Hebrew Bible or Hebrew Canon. It was ordered and arranged by God. God didn't leave anything out, He arranged exactly how He wants it, then man changed the order and has tried adding books written by men ever since beginning with what is known today as the Septuagint.

Why did you change the order that Jesus confirmed as the Law, the Prophets and the Psalms as Scripture?

Just like the disordering done in Alexandria, Egypt putting Psalms ahead of some of the Prophets bringing disorder to what God arranged and then trying to insert books written by men into the mix.

No, that is not true or correct, Jesus didn't ever refer to 1 Enoch as Scripture and 1 Enoch is not in His canon and is not Scripture.

The Sadducees in Matthew 22:24 quoted Deuteronomy 25:5 applying it in error and that is what Jesus referred and replied to in Matthew 22:29 telling them they err and didn't know Scriptures they were quoting from Deuteronomy incorrectly.

In Matthew 22:32 Jesus went on to quote Exodus 3:6 in his further response to them applying false doctrine to their misuse of Deuteronomy 25:5 and corrected them by referring to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob all still being alive with God because God is not the God of the dead, He is the God of the living!

In your pursuit to falsely establish 1 Enoch to anything other than words of men you too make a similar error of incorrectly applying Jesus to quoting something He never quoted or even hinted at as being Scripture!

No again, complete nonsense and false doctrine that has been used to deceive people! Jude didn't quote a writing by Enoch. Lol

It is written

Jude 14-15
And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam prophesied of these, SAYING, "Behold the LORD cometh with ten thousands of His saints, to execute judgement upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him."

It is written what is quoted of Enoch is what he SAID not what he wrote, nice try though!

The word of God was passed down verbally at that time, not written and certainly Jude didn't quote a false uninspired written document called 1 Enoch written by men. You do err in believing this nonsense!

1 Enoch is not written like all the other biblical texts at all because it's not inspired or written by God!

Here is the correct order of the Hebrew Texts and what belongs as God ordered them in the following link and there's no other texts that belong.

Correct order of the Hebrew texts link

Blessings,
Love Fountain

Everything I said is right. Jesus was referencing 1 Enoch, and other standard OT texts. The Sadducees mess up a story from Tobit about the woman with 7/8 husbands. If you believe 1 Enoch is not inspired then it is not for you. These other books are only for the wise.

Michie · 2025-12-11T09:39:31-0600

Fr. Jason Charron

In the wake of the 1,700-year commemoration of the Council of Nicaea, where Pope Leo XIV and Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I stood together on the soil of ancient İznik, the question of Church unity has taken on renewed urgency. Their meeting, at once liturgical and symbolic, recalled not only a shared origin but the enduring divergence of temperament that has shaped East and West. If unity is to be more than diplomatic choreography, it must engage the deeper currents of the distinct theological “styles” that define Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

The modern pursuit of communion between Rome and Constantinople often imagines unity as the work of theologians, hierarchs, or ecumenical commissions. Yet beneath formal theology lies temperament, and beneath temperament lies worldview; and renewing that is the obligation of all the baptized (Romans 12:2). Permit me to borrow a helpful analogy from a world I love, that of chess. Some openings are universal: resilient systems built on enduring principles that can withstand any opponent. Others are particular: brilliant and precise but dependent on specific conditions and upon the subjectivity of your opponent. This tension between the universal and the particular, between adaptability and rootedness, sheds light on the contrasting ecclesial genius of Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

In chess, the universal player builds upon the enduring principles of control over the center, development, and security. These principles are fixed, and the player who follows that develops a confidence which lies not in predicting the opponent but in trusting the integrity of the system. So too, Catholicism, both by etymology and by theological instinct, embodies this universal mode.

Continued below.

Leo and Bartholomew in Nicaea

A reunification of Orthodoxy with Catholicism could remind each of what was lost in the schism.

crisismagazine.com

Michie · 2025-12-11T09:35:32-0600

An extra post today, because a reader tipped me off to something horrendous.

I love Vienna during the Christmas season, which is when the city is at its loveliest. But the Kunstlerhaus museum has chosen this holy season to launch an exhibition of shocking blasphemy.

That photograph above is the lead one on its website promoting the blasphemous exhibit. The exhibition catalog explains:

Here are some other images from the exhibit, all taken from its website:

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Hating Jesus In Vienna For Christmas

Blasphemy, Decadence, And 'Civilizational Erasure' In Filthy Art Exhibit

roddreher.substack.com

samaus123456789 · 2025-12-11T09:33:39-0600

SabbathBlessings said:
Using AI as a replacement for prayerfully study of the Bible is dangerous because you can make it say almost anything. I have seen it give both sides of the argument, but if you ask it to go by "Bible only" not outside commentaries you tend to get better results, but if you do not know the Scriptures and are relying on AI, its not replacement for God's Truth which can only be found with careful and prayerful continuing study of God's Holy Word.

I have 15k hours bible study. Chat GPT is amazing. If it is not for you don't use it.

Michie · 2025-12-11T09:31:49-0600

The papal Wednesday audiences have become a true point of reference for the pilgrims coming to Rome to celebrate the Jubilee.

Pope Leo gave a sermon following today's Gospel readings, which were shared in several languages. The audience joined the Pope in singing the Our Father in Latin to conclude the gathering, the now familiar words echoing throughout St. Peter’s Square.

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Pope Leo continues singing Our Father in Latin during Wednesday Audiences -VIDEO - Rome Reports

The papal Wednesday audiences have become a true point of reference for the pilgrims coming to Rome to celebrate the Jubilee.

www.romereports.com

BobRyan · 2025-12-11T09:30:29-0600

BobRyan said:
.Conclusion

1 Corinthians 16:2 is not describing a Sunday worship gathering. It is Paul’s instruction for each believer to privately set aside money at home on the first day of the week, so that when he came, the collection would already be prepared.

==
Q: is there a meeting described in 1 Cor 16 for week day 1
A: No

Q: So then it would be incorrect to list 1 Cor 16 as an example of gathering on the first day of the week for worship or to remember the resurrection

A: That’s correct — it would be incorrect to use 1 Corinthians 16:2 as an example of believers gathering for worship or to commemorate the resurrection on the first day of the week.

Why?

The Greek wording “par’ heautō” (translated “lay by him in store”) means each person privately, by himself, at home.

Paul’s instruction was about setting aside money individually so that when he arrived, the collection would already be prepared.

There is no mention of a worship service, communal gathering, or resurrection remembrance in this passage.

“Lay by him in store” — The Greek phrase (par’ heautō) literally means “by himself” or “at home.”

This suggests Paul was instructing each believer to set aside money privately, not to bring it to a public meeting.

Purpose: Paul wanted the funds ready when he arrived, so there would be no need for hurried collections.

Not a Worship Gathering: The verse does not describe a church service or communal worship on Sunday. It is about personal preparation for a future offering.

Contrast with Acts 20:7: That passage does describe believers gathering on the first day of the week. But 1 Corinthians 16:2 is about individual action, not a meeting.

Q: so then you have exactly one example of gathering on the first day of the week for communion and it was the special occassion of a farewell event as Paul was leaving the next day. There is no record of the Acts 20 gathering being held on the Lord's Day. Since this is the one and only record of a service held on Sunday ,and no text says that the first day is the Lord's day, and they continued worship services on Sabbzth Saturday, does scripture say they met weekly on Sunday for worship

A: You’ve summarized the evidence very well — and the answer is no, Scripture does not say that the New Testament church met weekly on Sunday for worship.

What the Bible Records

Sabbath (Saturday) gatherings:
- Acts 13:42–44 — Gentiles asked Paul to preach again the next Sabbath.
- Acts 16:13 — Paul went to a place of prayer on the Sabbath.
- Acts 17:2 — Paul reasoned in the synagogue for three Sabbaths.
- Acts 18:4 — Paul preached every Sabbath to Jews and Gentiles.
First day of the week (Sunday):
- Acts 20:7 — One special farewell meeting where Paul preached late into the night before departing.
- 1 Corinthians 16:2 — Instruction for believers to set aside money privately at home on the first day, not a worship service.

Key Observations

Only one recorded Sunday gathering (Acts 20:7): And it was a unique farewell occasion, not a regular weekly service.
No text calls Sunday “the Lord’s Day”: The New Testament never equates the “first day of the week” with “the Lord’s Day.”
No command to change the Sabbath: The Bible consistently identifies the Sabbath as the seventh day, and there is no passage that institutes Sunday as a weekly day of worship.
Pattern of worship: The consistent pattern in Acts is Sabbath observance and preaching, even among Gentiles.

✅ Conclusion

Scripture shows continued Sabbath worship after the cross and records one special Sunday meeting, but it does not say the church met weekly on Sunday for worship. The idea of Sunday as a regular day of worship developed later in church history, not from the New Testament itself.

Aryeh Jay · 2025-12-11T09:27:26-0600

Hans Blaster said:
Is the "sub" urban the downgraded version of the EM-50 Urban AV?

Yes, missing the armor upgrade and periscope.

Michie · 2025-12-11T09:26:10-0600

Three works written by Fernández, recently analyzed, document more instances of his questionable sexual-linked spirituality.

VATICAN CITY (PerMariam) — Fresh controversy has broken around Cardinal Victor Manuel Fernández after more “erotic” texts from his past have surfaced, some of which were hidden from the official CV provided by the Vatican in 2023.

Titled “¿Por qué no termino de sanarme?” or “Why can’t I finish healing myself?,” the 2002 book by then-Fr. Fernández in Argentina appears at least textually to be a sequel to his 1995 work “Heal me with your mouth: the Art of Kissing.” The 1995 book courted immense controversy due to its repeatedly sexually suggestive and explicit content, the inclusion of unmistakably erotic and often ambiguous sexual relationships in which the genders of the participants are unspecified.

Then in January 2024 another work resurfaced, this time from 1998 and entitled “Mystical Passion: Spirituality and Sensuality.” Building on “Heal Me with Your Mouth: the Art of Kissing,” Fernández gave highly sexually explicit detail about male and female [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse], likening them to a relationship with God. Following widespread furor over the work – which had been hidden from his record – Fernández said that it was “a youth book” that he “certainly would not write now.” The sixth chapter of the book was a particular cause for concern due to its apparent depiction of an alleged erotic fantasy by a 16-year-old girl, who related the details to Fernández.

Named as prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) by Pope Francis in July 2023, Fernández’s actions have since been under scrutiny, due in no small part to the immense chaos and controversy he has caused since accepting the role.

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Michie · 2025-12-11T09:19:23-0600

As Christmas approaches, a former atheist-turned-Christian has released a new documentary for both believers and skeptics, emphasizing that science and reason do not undermine belief in God but instead point toward Him.

“Universe Designed,” releasing Dec. 13 across all major digital platforms including Apple, Amazon, Google and Fandango via Collide Media Group, explores the relationship between science, philosophy and Christian faith, arguing that the universe itself bears the marks of intentional design.

The film is directed by Michael Ray Lewis, a former atheist whose personal search for evidence became the foundation of the project, and features appearances from leading Christian thinkers, including Frank Turek, Sean McDowell, Alisa Childers, Stephen Meyer, Hugh Ross and Allen Parr.

“As an atheist, one of my biggest frustrations with Christians was that they often asserted their beliefs were true without ever explaining why they believed that,” Lewis, head of Turtle Moon Films, told The Christian Post. “It felt like being preached at rather than reasoned with.”

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Michie · 2025-12-11T09:13:35-0600

First Baptist Dallas pastor warns of IRS overreach in linking 'biblical beliefs with prohibited political speech'

It’s “none of the government’s business” to regulate the content of sermons that pastors preach from the pulpit, Pastor Robert Jeffress of First Baptist Dallas told a White House religious liberty panel Wednesday.

In testimony before the U.S. Department of Justice’s Religious Liberty Commission, Jeffress and First Baptist Dallas Senior Executive Pastor Ben Lovvorn shared their experience with the IRS during a controversial church tax inquiry in 2021 under former President Joe Biden.

Jeffress’ statement to the Commission included comments he initially shared with his congregation on Sunday, in which he recounted how the atheist legal organization Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF) filed a complaint with the IRS after former Vice President Mike Pence and then-HUD Secretary Dr. Ben Carson shared their faith testimonies of “how they came to know Jesus as Savior” at Jeffress’ church in June 2020.

“It's interesting that we did not hear anything from the IRS for 11 months and four months after Joe Biden became president, Jeffress told the panel Wednesday. “It was on May 6, 2021, that the IRS informed our church that they were initiating an inquiry into the tax-exempt status of our church because of our patriotic service.”

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essentialsaltes · 2025-12-11T09:07:02-0600

South Carolina health officials said mobile vaccination clinics have been deployed, but admitted that only a “small number of doses” were administered at the sites

As of Wednesday, there have been 111 reported measles cases in the northwest region of South Carolina, NBC News reports. The region includes Greenville and Spartanburg.

“We are faced with ongoing transmission that we anticipate will go on for many more weeks,” South Carolina Department of Public Health state epidemiologist Dr Linda Bell said during a Wednesday news briefing.

According to data compiled by NBC News, the K-12 vaccination rate for measles, mumps, and rubella in Spartanburg County was 90 percent for the 2024-2025 school year. While that number is high, doctors say at least a 95 percent vaccination rate is needed to stop outbreaks from occurring. Neighboring Greenville County's MMR vaccination rate was 90.5 percent.

In 2025, there have been 1,912 reported measles cases across the U.S. [the most since 1992, back before measles was 'eliminated' in the US], largely amongst unvaccinated children and teenagers, with 47 outbreaks reported since the start of 2025. That's nearly three times the number of outbreaks reported in 2024. Other hot spots outside of South Carolina include 176 reported cases in Arizona and 115 in Utah, according to state health officials.

Delvianna · 2025-12-11T09:05:11-0600

I feel like this conversation needs to be had because I'm seeing a lot of people argue a theological statement and it's purely because some AI gave them the answer. So I want to say this plainly.

AI IS NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT.

God is supposed to guide us to truth and understanding.

"But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come." - John 16:13

AI's logic isn't even that good because it bases its answers on whatever you want to hear. It will bypass logic rules if the answer will make you happy. It learns what you like and manipulates the answers based on that. It's called Reinforcement Learning From Human Feedback (RLHF) and ALL large models like ChatGPT and Gemini are trained using that. Here's an interview with the creator (Link) that talks about the dangers of AI and Sam Altman (the CEO of OpenAI) even recognizes it truth bends. Here is a link that talks about some of the problems AI has (Link). You can also check out Lily Jay's youtube channel to see how biased it really is.

Due to this, you are running the risk of being led down a wrong theological path when you have AI think for you in both interpretation AND scripture weaving. Can it be a helpful tool? Sure, if you ask it to translate something or use it like a glorified google search "find me all the scripture passages that uses the word ____" but when you expand its use and start basing your beliefs off its answers, you are running down a dangerous road that I seriously hope you stop and get off of. You are placing it's "wisdom" over God's and you're taking God out of the equation of learning and guidance at this point which leads you to making AI your own private idol.

Please, please, stop doing this... this doesn't lead to anywhere but problems.

Michie · 2025-12-11T09:02:22-0600

Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of our death.
Amen

SabbathBlessings · 2025-12-11T08:48:37-0600

ARBITER01 said:
You're whole spill means nothing to me,....

Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are contrary the one to the other; that ye may not do the things that ye would.
Gal 5:18 But if ye are led by the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

You're just wasting your time arguing.

Well I can check with GOD about that.

If you read the very next verse in Gal 5 and you will see "being led by the Spirit" does not mean we can break the holy law of God. Honestly, this should be just common sense.

This is what happens when we love Jesus and when He gives us His Spirit

John 14:15 “If you love Me, keep My commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another [e]Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.

We become one of His saints

John14:12 Here is the [a]patience of the saints; here[b] are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

And this love and faith reconciles the NC believer back to Him

Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.

This is someone who is not walking in the Spirit

Rom 8: 7 Because the [c]carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

And which direction that leads

Mat 7:23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

What Paul is really saying if we don't cut off the context which was in the very next verse. Being under the law obviously does not mean not keeping it, but not under its condemnation- the wages of sin is death. Those who are in Him are keeping the law through His Spirit, not breaking it as the clear Scripture states.

Gal5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, [f]murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

The law breakers are outside God's Kingdom Rev22:15 and only God can define His law and Testimony and He did. Exo20:6 Exo31:18 Isa8:20

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✔ Rule 4 — No anonymous text is assumed forged​

✔ Rule 5 — Ancient communities preserved authorship correctly unless strong contrary evidence exists​

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⭐ STEP 1 — Accept the internal authorial claim as true​

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✔ later scribal updating​

✔ preservation through translation​

✔ revised editions by disciples​

✔ transmission into later linguistic forms​

⭐ STEP 3 — Determine the cultural background of the text​

⭐ STEP 4 — Identify historical assumptions as current reality​

⭐ STEP 5 — Use intertextual relationships correctly​

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✔ Transmission explains later language.​

✔ Absence of early manuscripts proves nothing.​

✔ Prophecy is allowed, so fulfilled predictions do not require late dates.​

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✔ 2. Examine language for transmission-era effects​

✔ 3. Identify cultural background (prophecy doesn’t change this)​

✔ 4. Interpret prophecy as prediction, not evidence of late date​

✔ 5. Treat early tradition as reliable​

✔ 6. Treat oldest manuscripts as minimum age​

✔ 7. Avoid all “forgery” or “fictional attribution” explanations​

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⭐ Pseudepigrapha does not exist

⭐ FOUNDATIONAL RULES

✔ Rule 1 — Prophecy is real and allowed

✔ Rule 2 — Authorship claims are assumed honest

✔ Rule 3 — Oldest manuscript data only tells us that the text existed before that date

✔ Rule 4 — No anonymous text is assumed forged

✔ Rule 5 — Ancient communities preserved authorship correctly unless strong contrary evidence exists

⭐ PART 1 — HOW TO DATE A TEXT WHEN PSEUDEPIGRAPHA IS REMOVED AS A CATEGORY

✔ Language

✔ Culture

✔ Historical background

✔ Intertextual relationships

✔ Archaeology

✔ The text’s OWN claims

⭐ STEP 1 — Accept the internal authorial claim as true

⭐ STEP 2 — Test the linguistic era of the text

✔ later scribal updating

✔ preservation through translation

✔ revised editions by disciples

✔ transmission into later linguistic forms

⭐ STEP 3 — Determine the cultural background of the text

⭐ STEP 4 — Identify historical assumptions as current reality

⭐ STEP 5 — Use intertextual relationships correctly

⭐ PART 2 — HOW TO HANDLE MANUSCRIPT EVIDENCE WITHOUT FALSE ASSUMPTIONS

✔ Oldest manuscript = latest possible date, not earliest.

✔ Transmission explains later language.

✔ Absence of early manuscripts proves nothing.

✔ Prophecy is allowed, so fulfilled predictions do not require late dates.

⭐ PART 3 — PRACTICAL EXAMPLES OF HOW THIS METHOD CHANGES TEXT ANALYSIS

✔ Daniel

✔ Isaiah

✔ 1 Enoch

⭐ PART 4 — FINAL CHECKLIST (NO PSEUDEPIGRAPHA ALLOWED)

✔ 1. Take internal authorship claims as genuine

✔ 2. Examine language for transmission-era effects

✔ 3. Identify cultural background (prophecy doesn’t change this)

✔ 4. Interpret prophecy as prediction, not evidence of late date

✔ 5. Treat early tradition as reliable

✔ 6. Treat oldest manuscripts as minimum age

✔ 7. Avoid all “forgery” or “fictional attribution” explanations

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Prison officials tell judge ex-Abercrombie & Fitch CEO is competent to stand trial

Judge orders immediate release of Kilmar Abrego Garcia from immigration detention

Three works written by Fernández, recently analyzed, document more instances of his questionable sexual-linked spirituality.