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Erika Kirk slams conspiracy theories

We get it. You think that Kirk's wife and children do not deserve peace and dignity because of Charlie's views.
If this is how you read between the lines, you might want visit the optometrist. If I'd wanted to say that they don't deserve peace, I would have.

Actually, I'll put a finer point on it - I think they all deserve peace and to be spared from harassment. The Springfield Haitians, unfortunately, didn't get that. Not because of Charlie's views, but partly because of his actions. He made his wealth (and thus, Erika's, too) by peddling fear, lies, and outrage. As far as I'm aware, his widow has done nothing to disavow that part of his business - certainly nothing on the TPUSA website (that she now runs) gives that impression. But why would she? That's what paid for her mansion(s).

Again, I don't think she ought to be harassed like this, but if that's the life she chooses to lead...


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Indiana Senate Republicans reject Trump’s redistricting push

But the USA is not a African Banana Republic - is it?

Of course not, the USA has not bananas, nor is it in Africa. (Banana republics are in Central America and fruit companies no longer control any nations.
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Weekly homilies

Homily, Saturday, December 13 2025



Sirach 48:1-4, 9-11

“How awesome are you, Elijah! Whose glory is equal to yours?”



Elijah was a friend of God; he received Him from within.



Matthew 17:10-13

“Also will the Son of Man suffer at their hands.”



Let’s learn how to recognize the beauty of God in a person.



Biblical texts: NAB-RE

Normand Thomas.
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anyone know anything about Gematria?

God is really big. Unfathomably big. God is everywhere, being all-knowing along with that. The universe is more limited, observable and all of it beyond that. How can God have concern for you and anything smaller? God, the Creator, isn’t limited even to any scales. But you would need to talk with God, for having a relationship with God. God has the love, without limit, and provides for that relationship being available to us who would respond to God. I do what I see to do according to what God's will is, which we can do, and trust God as I know I can, in doing this to walk with God.
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Is Hell Annihilationism or Eternal Torment

Thanks for sharing with you. I like having discussions with civil manners. Yeah, people IMHO have their own prerogative & aptitude to seek what they wish. I am a novice astrologer whose always in awe when witnessing the wonders of space. Just witnessing M31, Saturn, Jupiter all point to a Divine Maker. Physics or natural laws all also point to a designer. I am now studying Quantum Physics & Micro Biology: Human Cells (Mitosis).

All that being said, doesn't reveal what God has accomplished in His Son for His people. The historical record of the eschatological consummation of God's Redemptive Plan is what I am interested in. That to me is more awe taking that anything else I have read. I am only sharing with you.

Thanks again for sharing.​

You're welcome. Thank you for also sharing your thoughts on these matters in turn. I appreciate your brotherly composure. :cool:
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Donald Trump Says US To Launch Land Action in Venezuela ‘Very Soon’

Reuters reports the administration has a list of sanctioned oil tankers that could be interdicted in the coming days. Oil tanker operators are starting to suspend previously scheduled voyages from Venezuela.

The new U.S. tactic focuses on the activities of what is called the shadow fleet of tankers that transports sanctioned oil to China, the largest buyer of crude from Venezuela and Iran. A single vessel will often make separate runs on behalf of Iran, Venezuela and Russia, the sources added.



One other note: The U.S. Coast Guard, with Navy resources, led the interdiction. I suppose blowing up a loaded oil tanker was a bridge too far.
No the tanker grab was a professional operation. Blowing up the narco boats was just a side show Trump put on for his Christian supporters.
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Stephen Miller Says Trump White House Has Offered to Put Him on CNN at ‘Any Time’ to Respond to Their Numerous Lies But They Won’t Have Him On (VIDEO)

I have asked that people not demonize their political opponents, and I am asking again. Name-calling is typically because of a lack of substance to an argument. Although a bit further back than President Trump's, Stephen Miller's (a family man with three children) ancestry is one of immigration. Miller, like Trump, is concerned about the children lost under the Biden administration, concerned about the victims of horrible crimes perpetrated by unvetted and illegal immigrants allowed into our country by the Biden administration, and concerned about the damage that has been done by letting in large populations that do not care for America and wish to keep allegiance to their countries of origin. Conservatives want LEGAL IMMIGRANTS who respect our laws, love America and our way of life, and have a desire to assimilate into our culture.

Name-calling, whether in politics or daily interactions, is generally regarded as a sign of weakness. Individuals who resort to profanity often appear to lack the knowledge to express their opinions or frustrations in a more articulate and constructive manner.

In this millennium, political discourse has visibly deteriorated, with politicians openly accusing each other of lying, warmongering, and using other insults.

it doesn’t help when political leader call other politician name like : Little Marco, Crooked Hilary, Sleepy Joe, “lying Ted”, “Pocahontas” , “Crazy Nancy”, “Shifty Schiff” ,
“Ron DeSanctimonoius” , and many more names!

Name-calling does nothing to improve politics, and voters who back these politicians but tell others not to name-call reveal their own hypocrisy.

If, as a regular voter, I want to improve our political system, it begins with choosing not to support politicians who behave provocatively. I cannot vote multiple times for a candidate who consistently resorts to provocative language when referring to opponents or reporters, and then, without irony, calls for civility among Americans.
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Zions New Children

Typical preterist avoidance of any possibility that Prophecy could apply to the present time.
Typical brushing aside of careful arguments and historical and biblical evidence.

Typical diversionary tactics to lead back to your own inevitable navel gazing conclusions.

Actually, most Prophesies could have applied to any time after they were given,
That's absolutely false because the prophecies that were given centuries before in Deuteronomy were the ones being referenced by most of the prophets discussing destruction on Israel and the rebuilding of Israel a lifetime later. Not 35 lifetimes later as you would have it!

They often specifically named Assyria and Babylon, and the other smaller kingdoms around Israel.

These were fulfilled by the time of Jesus, as evidenced by the fact that Jesus walked around the streets of Jerusalem!
but as most have not yet happened
Diversionary tactic again.
See the above.
If Israel was not already rebuilt as the prophets said, how on earth was Jesus walking around in Israel and in Jerusalem and in the rebuilt temple?

It says obvious as the nose on our faces!


we must expect their fulfilment at some future time.

No we mustn't because MOST were fulfilled over 2,000 years ago.

I'm not gonna bother discussing various Old testament passages with you cos it never does any good.

Until you can explain how we know Jesus was actually the Messiah from Old testament prophecies - when you intentionally throw other ancient prophecies about Babylon thousands of years out of context - I'm not going to bother.

You don't even realise the consequences of your false teaching. The side effect is you undermine the very gospel itself by completely disregarding how the Old testament prophecies were meant to be read. Unless of course there's a prophecy about a little baby that is to be born in a manger in our generation? Should we follow that person?
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Do You believe In Ghosts/Spirits ?

I've recounted this heaps of times but my father turned up in my bedroom the night he died. We argued and talked, and at the end he gave this almighty scream and disappeared. Something was coming for him.

But I wouldn't call him a "ghost". To my mind I wa allowed to see his spirit, while I have this conception of "ghosts" that they hang around and haunt specific locations.

When the disciples saw Christ walking on the water, they were terrified and thought He was a ghost. Christ did nothing to dispel the possibility of ghosts existing, but merely affirmed he was 'not a ghost'.

In my last job in community driving, one of the fares said she had a similar experience. Her husband was in hospital being kept alive by machines as he'd had a brain embolism. The staff had already told her that the next day they were going to turn off the machines and if he couldn't breathe, he'd die.

So she knew that. But that night she said something white sat on the bed. She said she was freaking out, and wondered what the hell was going on. Then this white thing spoke.

It was her husband. He apologised to her for his abusive treatment. What else might have been said I don't know as I didn't have time to pursue the story. But she told me her eldest daughter had the same experience.

She said he was easily most abusive to the eldest daughter out of all the children, and sat on the foot of the bed and apologised to her as well on the night he died.

I was seeing a psychiatrist for a few years. It started due to depression but that was fixed by Prozac. I kept going though as we shared some similar spiritual experiences. Now I'd only see him once every fhree to five months as it wasn't urgent, but one session he said "Something strange happened last weekend!"

I asked him what it was.

He said he was in a Catholic Church when they announced a parishioner had died that morning. However she had also been one of his patients.

He said "She was in the church!" He could see her and said she seemed to be trying to get his attention. She gave up after a while (it's not exacatly a good idea to talk to a spirit in church if you're the only one who is allowed to see her), and moved to the other side of the church.

He thought she might have had family on that side of the church.

Now I'd often told him about my father turning up, along with some other spiritual shenanigans, but he had his "ghostly" experince the very weekend before I was due to come in for my next appointment ie. "last weekend".

I suppose you might say the memory would have been very fresh in his mind at the time.

I've got no doubt we all have spirits, and there are "ghosts" who for one reason or another might be doing their purgatory in a certain place, so they're stuck there.

Spirits exist - every single one of us has a spirit, and there are ghosts. As Christ said walking on the water, he was "not a ghost" implying ghosts exist.

In an account I read some years ago, a chap said his grandmother died. He tried to tell his brother as he knew they were very close, but was unable to at the time. Later he told his brother who informed him he already knew.

He asked him how he knew. He said she visited him the night she died, and sat on the foot of the bed.

The only problem was that the brother was on a New Zealand naval vessel at the time somewhere out in the Pacific Ocean.

They exist all right.
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State leaders speak out about plans to expand the Islamic Academy of Alabama

Yes that's obvious. So apparently as long as they tell their story and no one pays them, you'll believe it?

I suppose I would have to have gone to Dauchau to know what's happened? Maybe, I have to join the cartel to be able to know what happens there too?

So, we aren't allowed to listen to anyone that wrote a book about their experiences and we aren't allowed to accept anyone's information about what goes in anywhere unless we've visited it ourselves. Is that essentially it?
No, apparently what it is is that we aren't supposed to criticize any information you present about what goes on anywhere even if we have been there ourselves and you haven't.
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Jordan Peterson Health Update: Family Remains Hopeful About Recovery

He has reminded people of the psychological power of the Christian story in establishing fruitful and foundational archetypes for Western civilization. Praying he recovers from his illness with a clearer declaration of faith on his lips.
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Violent mob attacks Christian families inside church, try to force pastor to teach about Hindu gods

NEW DELHI — When a Hindu extremist mob assaulted Christian men, women and children during a church service in India in late September, police jailed the pastor and charged him and four other Christians, sources said.

In Rajasthan state’s Hanumangarh District, several Hindu women intruded into the church building in Nohar city, followed by Hindu men, young and old, at about 10 a.m. on Sep. 28, as the congregation was singing in worship, said 45-year-old Pastor Wazir Singh.

“They let the Hindu women take the forefront. Hindu women attacked Christian women and Hindu men attacked Christian men,” Pastor Singh told Morning Star News following his release from jail on Oct. 4.

The mob forced Pastor Singh to sit and demanded he teach about Hindu deities such as Rama and Ganesha instead of Christ and read to the congregation passages from the Ramayana or Mahabharata Hindu scriptures instead of the Bible, he said. When he responded, “My faith is in Jesus Christ, and my country gives me the right to choose whom I want to believe in and freedom to practice my faith,” they called police and had him arrested.

Continued below.

Was interested in how the Muslims in the prison defended the Pastor against the Hindu inmates. Hindutva intolerance is growing for non-Indian religions and the Bollywood Hindu propaganda films are getting more and more non historical and unreal
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Nostalgia and Advent

It wasn’t until the early twentieth century that the word nostalgia took on its present meaning: a fond remembrance of the way things used to be, tinged with sadness that things are no longer so.

Just Build a Better You

Change is always possible with God’s help. Lifeless faith can be revived, hopeless situations can be given meaning, cold and hardened hearts can be warmed by love. We do not have to be imprisoned in our sinfulness; God sent His Son to offer us freedom. We are all invited and challenged to reform our lives—and Jesus makes this possible.

I hold a view similar to the Open View of God.

But we're not talking about electric current here, are we? God created. There was and is nothing that is not a result of that.

The principle is the same and you're side-skirting the issue so you don't have to answer. You can't just say that because God is involved then no logic applies.

No. Only by your parameters.

By anyone's parameters if they make an honest analysis of the situation.

I looked. I see nowhere I proclaimed as true that man is the prime mover in his deeds.

False as the day is long. You continue in your notion of man as prime mover in his deeds.
- False that man is the prime mover in his deed. So I am not able to make my own choice.

You indeed do WILL to do what you do, and that, by what you deem more advantageous or desirous.
- You will do what you do...by what you deem more more advantageous or desirous. Now I am the prime mover after all, therefore now my initial statement is true and somehow I can make my own choice..

You choose according to your inclinations.
- Again I am making a choice according to my inclinations. Further solidifying that my initial position is true.

So the second two sentences contradict the first.

No. If he caused it, and that is reality, then whatever is real within that reality is caused by God. To characterize something within that reality as uncaused is therefore logically self-contradictory.

I am not disputing cause. I am disputing the logical incoherence that causing something that you know the result of can result in any effect that is not pre-determined, and if it is pre-determined then it is logically incoherent to suggest that anyone besides the causer has any choice.

No, I do not claim that God does not (nor that he does) have that ability. I claim it is logical nonsense, a figment of the imagination, words playing in the mind of presumptuous humans.

I did not intend "the source of choice" there. I intended the source of the ability to choose Christ, and the source of salvific Faith.

Oh, but you are making a claim. You just don't realize it.

Which is it? A or B?

A. I have a choice whether to follow God.
B. God already knows whether I will choose to follow him or not.

If God knows that I will follow him, then there is no reality where I will not follow him. Conversely if he knows I will not follow him, then there is no reality where I do follow him. You cannot say both, because to quote from you, it is logical nonsense.
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How to Eradicate Envy

Envy, according to the classical definition, is sadness at another’s good fortune. Envy, which is the second of the Deadly Sins, robs one of the joy he could share with another person’s gifts. God grants people His gifts to please the recipient, but also to be shared with others. We should rejoice when anyone displays God’s gifts.

The Story of Our Lady of Guadalupe

On December of 1531 a series of Marian apparitions occurred that changed the world as we know it. The Blessed Virgin Mary appeared to a middle-aged man named Juan Diego at the climax of civil unrest in present-day Mexico. Our Blessed Mother’s providential intervention not only thwarted blood shed but in effect brought about the greatest evangelization event in Christian history!

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The Law vs The Law

There's really only two main laws and in reality there is really only one we are to live by which means so much more than people realize. .

God wrote the Ten Commandments and many people get confused by the word "covenant" with the "law"

A covenant is an agreement. The law of God is what He claims them to be as "His" which He did clearly from the Ten Commandments Exo20:6 spoken from the mouth of God, written by the Holy Spirit and in this unit that God wrote on stone, He added no more Deut5:22 why only the Ten Commandments was inside His ark Exo40:20.

The first 4 commandments show how to love God and the last 6 how we love our neighbor Rom13:9. They cover so much more than people realize Psa 119:96 just as Jesus taught from this same unit Mat 5:19-30

Why God's name is in each of these commandments, not Moses, not anyone else.

Exo 20:1 And God spoke all these words, saying:
2 I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of [a]bondage.
3 “You shall have no other gods before Me.
4 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5 you shall not bow down to them nor [b]serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting[c] the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
7 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Moses wrote all the other laws that were added because of sin for breaking God's holy Law, written by the Holy Spirit. These laws contained everything else the ceremonial ordinances, animal sacrifices, curses and blessings for keeping God's Law the Ten Commandments.

Deut 31:24 After Moses finished writing in a book the words of this law from beginning to end, 25 he gave this command to the Levites who carried the ark of the covenant of the Lord: 26 “Take this Book of the Law and place it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God. There it will remain as a witness against you.

These are not the same Laws or agreement and we see clear distinctions such as:

2Chro 33:8 and I will not again remove the foot of Israel from the land which I have appointed for your fathers—only if they are careful to do all that I have commanded them, according to the whole law (so there is a whole law that God commanded AND, which means in addition) and the statutes and the ordinances by the hand of Moses.”


The New Covenant is God's Laws going from written on stone to being written in the heart. Heb8:10 What changed in the New Covenant is the Promises Heb8:6 not the Laws Heb8:10 The law of God written by the Holy Spirit of Truth was never the issue, it is perfect Psa19:7, holy, just and good Rom7:12 the issue is mans heart. So the new covenant is based on what God will do, if we cooperate with Him John14:15-18 sadly many don't Rom8:7-8

2 Cor3:3 clearly you are an epistle of Christ, ministered by us, written not with ink but by the Spirit of the living God,

The laws written on scrolls with ink was everything except the Ten Commandments. The Ten Commandments was written by the Spirit of the living God.

They were written by the finger of God Exo31:18 which is the Spirit of God

Math 12:28 But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you
Luke 11: 20 But if I cast out demons with the finger of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you

not on tablets of stone but on tablets of flesh, that is, of the heart.

The only laws written on tablets of stone was the Ten Commandments

Deut 4:13 So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.

And where did these laws of God go written by the Holy Spirit- into tablets of the heart.

The location changed, not the Laws, God keeping His promise not to alter the words of His covenant Psa89:34 not a jot or tittle Mat5:18-19, why the NC is established on better promises Heb8:6 and still has God's Laws, just written on a better surface, our hearts Heb8:10

The allegory of Paul of the law would have to know the story of Sarah and Hagar. Sarah took it into her own hands to bear the promise of God that Abraham's bloodline would be many nations and used a slave to conceive a child instead of waiting on what God would do. Isaac came by promise of what God will do and it relates perfectly to the Old and New Covenant. The Old Covenant- the Ten Commandments written on stone was based on the people doing Exo19:8 the New Covenant God wrote His laws, the Ten Commandments in the heart and is established on the better promise Heb8:6 what He will do Heb8:10 John14:15-18 if we cooperate with Him.
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