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GodAndChocolateVanilla · 2025-11-11T18:50:13-0600

fhansen · 2025-11-11T18:50:04-0600

Clare73 said:
There is physical death of the body. . and there is spiritual death of the human spirit (i.e., absence of eternal life).
At physical death of the body, the body ceases to exist except for its dust.
The human spirit is immortal and nevers cease to exist, even without eternal (God's) life.

And?? Is that supposed to somehow deny the fact that Jesus raises the spiritually dead to newness of life?

Clare73 said:
The soul does not die.
Adam and Eve died spiritually; I.e., they lost eternal life within their spirits.

The spirit of man does not die either then, since, as you say, it's immortal.

Death of the soul is a metaphor historically used for the same concept that which happens when one is separated from God. And that's the point. So are you denying that man is born dead metaphorically, while truly dead to God, and must be born again?

Clare73 said:
Adam and Eve died spiritually; I.e., they lost eternal life within their spirits.

Yes, as I've maintained. Dead men walking.

Clare73 said:
They did not die physically, they died spiritually (loss of eternal life). . .there is a difference.
Physical death is cessation of the body's existence.
Spiritual death is not cessation of the immortal spirit's existence, it is absence of eternal (God's) life within the immortal human spirit.
Man is born in spiritual death (no eternal life in his spirit), by his nature an object of wrath (Eph 2:3), and who is reborn into eternal life by the sovereign choice (as unaccountable as the wind, Jn 3:6-8) of the Holy Spirit (Jn 3:3-5).

OK? This adds nothing to what I've said. Dead men walking.

Clare73 said:
But the soul does not die.

Thanks for your opinion.

Clare73 said:
Nor does man inherit sin. (Eze 18:20)
The sin with which man is born is the imputed sin of Adam (Ro 5:14, 17, 18-19, 12-16), which is the pattern (Ro 5:14) for the imputed righteousness of Christ to man, just as righteousness was imputed to Abraham (Ro 4:1-5).

A distinction without much of a difference. How is imputing sin to anyone who isn't guilty of it any different-or better- or more just? You don't quite seem to get it. All fell with Adam and so all share the same fate and consequences. All are equally dead. All need to be born again in order to live. Why, woud you speculate, do all of Adam's descendants inevitably sin? Hint: there's something more wrong with them than imputed sin.

Hentenza · 2025-11-11T18:49:32-0600

Tigger Boy said:
I have presented to you evidence in the words of Christ, as recorded in Jh. 20:17, that Christ did not go to heaven/paradise the day of His death, but two days latter. I have also shared with you in my first post (Ezekiel 18:20, and Rev. 16:3) which states that souls die, which I assume you don't believe. (John 5:28,29; Acts 2:29,34; Job 17:13) that the saved do not go to heaven when they die, nor the lost to hell, which i assume you believe. And Ecclesiastes 9:5,6,10; Psalms 115:17) that the dead know nothing, nor do they praise the Lord. All of these Biblical texts and others I have not mentioned prove that the thief could not have gone to paradise along with Christ the day Christ was crucified.

You need not apologize for not agreeing with me, as you are free to believe whatever you choose to believe. But certainly my previous posts show that I have given Biblical support for why the comma in Lk.23:43, has been placed in the wrong place, since it contradicts what the Bible clearly teaches on death. So no, I haven't relied on "it shouldn't be there to justify it

It is no difference than the poor man in Abraham bosom depicted in Luke 16. Paradise is the third heaven as Paul describes in 2 Cor. 12. This heaven is not the same as where Jesus explains He has not been to in John 20:17. In fact, Paul and Jesus call the third heaven paradise.

Ezekiel 18:20 teaches that the soul that sins will die which they will indeed at the end of times. The soul of the sinner will go to hades just like the soul of the rich man in Luke 16 did. Rev. 20 describes how hades and death will be thrown in the lake of fire at the end of times (Rev. 20:14).

Rev. 16:3, John 5:28-29, has no teaching about the soul.

Acts 2:29 only talks about David’s grave not about his soul.

Acts 2:34 is a quote from Psalm 110:1 which is a prophesy about the messiah. Also read, Luke 20:23 and Heb. 1:13.

Job 17:13 Sheol and Hades are the same place. This is where the rich man in Luke 16 is.

ECC. 9: 5-6,10. The first two verses refer to the body not the soul. Verse 10 is also not talking about the soul otherwise it would be in tension with Luke 16 where the rich man was talking and needed water. When an interpretation causes tension between parts of scripture then is best to examine one’s interpretation rather than force an interpretation.

Psalm 115:17 the dead bodies do not praise the Lord but the souls do including the souls of the martyrs (Rev. 6:9).

I have now addressed every verse that you have posted and added a couple of my own.

Be blessed.

Servus · 2025-11-11T18:48:40-0600

The Barbarian said:
I'm guessing that it's undergoing some "adjustments."

Perhaps it was hacked.

Paidiske · 2025-11-11T18:48:30-0600

Paidiske said:
I don't have to deal with parish council any more, at least right now.

I'm not especially sad about that.

Oh I spoke too soon. Apparently I am on parish council after all....

hldude · 2025-11-11T18:46:12-0600

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“Do We Give Our All?
Mark 12:41-44 NIV
Jesus sat down opposite the place where the offerings were put and watched the crowd putting their money into the temple treasury. Many rich people threw in large amounts. But a poor widow came and put in two very small copper coins, worth only a few cents. Calling his disciples to him, Jesus said, “Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others. They all gave out of their wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything—all she had to live on.”

Recently, for our family devotion time, we read this passage about the widow giving all that she had. I have read this story numerous times in the past and am reminded of how powerful of a message it is showing us that giving our all in life is so important. I’m reminded of how crucial it is for us to truly give our all in every single thing we do in life. So often it’s easy for us to just give minimal in our efforts to various commitments.

I think about the religious leaders and other rich people who felt a sense of pride for throwing large amounts into the offering. I’m sure they had a puffed up ego feeling all good about their so-called generosity. However, the widow is amazing not only because she gave the least amount, but also that she gave everything she had and ended up giving more than them!

This makes me consider how often I honestly put in 100% effort into the things I do each day and how much I commit to my relationship with God, my family, church and friendships that I have. When I consider the widow, I often wonder how God wants me to give more in certain situations.

Guess who else gave their all? There’s many other examples in Scripture, but the best example every is Jesus Christ Himself. He literally gave it all. Just like the hymn, “Jesus Paid It All”. No one in history could ever give what Jesus did. Jesus gave His life to give us life.

I think we all need to start asking ourselves each day, “Do we give our all in our relationship with God, in our family, in our church, and other relationships?” In our commitments, where are we failing to give our all? Others are busting their tails often to help us and to provide for their families, so we definitely need to make sure we are giving our best effort in everything we do.

Like the widow, do we find ourselves giving our all and being as humble as possible or do we just give a little and feel prideful for at least giving something? We need to ditch the pride and take a good lesson from not only the widow, but Jesus Himself.

rebornfree · 2025-11-11T18:32:21-0600

Michie said:
Testimonies are planting seeds. There is nothing wrong with writing and selling a book. A worker is worth their wages. It takes money to reach a wide audience, etc. You make a very good point about his celebrity opening people up to reading his testimony.

Thank you, and I agree about a worker being worthy of their wages.

essentialsaltes · 2025-11-11T18:32:19-0600

Democrat Adelita Grijalva to be sworn in 7 weeks after winning House election

Democrat Adelita Grijalva will be sworn in as a member of Congress on Wednesday when the House returns, seven weeks after she won a special election in Arizona.

House Speaker Mike Johnson will administer the oath of office to Grijalva at 4 p.m. Wednesday before the lower chamber holds votes on a funding bill to reopen the government, according to the speaker's office.

RocksInMyHead · 2025-11-11T18:32:04-0600

calicocat said:
When a bunch of violent, fighting-aged, disproportionately-male "refugees" started landing on my homeland in 1492 it didn't go well for us. And we didn't have our own leaders selling us out and our invaders weren't as fond of rape and their monogamy meant they didn't breed like rabbits. And we had a LOT of land. The effects took time to hit. And our elders gave awards to braves who fought back rather than jailing everyone who even complained about it.

Britain is cooked.

And they're cooked in the future on a level even the Native Americans weren't.

Ngl I don't care about Germany after what they did in the war, but watching Britain is horrifying.

Well that went from zero to racist real quick.

pasifika · 2025-11-11T18:28:59-0600

Bro.T said:
Well let's see what Paul is saying here in (Rom. 3:20) Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sights for by the law is the knowledge of sin. The deeds of the law is referring to the animal sacrificial laws, all those sacrifices can never remove sins, so they could never be justified. This is true because the blood of Jesus can only justify us. The animal sacrificial laws was added because people continue to sin, and the wages of sin bring for death. So instead of God killing people every time they sin, the Lord gave Moses a law to use, animals. So by the other law (Ten Commandments, Statutes and Judgement) is the knowledge of sin.

Now didn't Paul say in Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. You wouldn’t know what sin was if there was no law.

To sum up what going on here in Galatians, Paul is explaining that Christ came from Abraham seed, and remove the animal Sacrificial law. But in the days of Abraham that animal Sacrificial law never was on the table, and was not needed for Abraham to obey and have faith in God. But the Commandments was always on the table. Now pay attention, the law that is being spoken of here came four hundred and thirty years after this covenant. But God’s holy commandments have been around forever even before man was created.

Remember that Satan was kicked out of heaven because iniquity (sin) was found in him. And what is sin? The transgression of the law (commandments). Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Now we have just read the biblical definition of sin, the transgression (breaking) of the law (commandments.) It doesn’t matter what you or I think sin is, it’s what God says sin is that counts. (1John 3:4)

(v.19) Wherefore then serveth the law? A question is being asked here. Then why should we serve this law? It was added because of transgression, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; the law that we are talking about here was added because of sin. But we now know that sin is the transgression of the law.

How do you add a law if sin is the transgression of the law? Because there are two sets of laws, you have God’s holy commandments which abided forever, and you had the animal sacrificial law which was added because of sin, but it was only good until the seed should come to whom the promise was made, and that seed was Jesus.

(v.24) Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. This animal sacrificial law was only a schoolmaster.

In the days of Jesus, the religious leaders were constantly questioning Jesus in order to test Him and on this occasion a lawyer asked Jesus what is the great commandment?
Matthew (22:35) Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, (36) Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

Jesus reply was the 1st great commandment was to love God and the 2nd was to love ones neighbor. These were given as a commandment for man to love.

Matthew (22:37) Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. (38) This is the first and great commandment. (39) And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

One should note that by following the 1st and 2nd great commandment they will be adhering to the 10 commandments issued by Moses. If they love the Lord they won’t have any other Gods before him, or make any graven images or take his name in vain, they will remember his Sabbath and if they love their neighbor they will honor their Father and Mother and they won’t kill or commit adultery or steal or bear false witness nor will they covet. This is why Jesus goes on to state that on these two commandments hang the law and the prophets. Because by fulfilling these two commandments one fulfills the law.

(40) On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Jesus stated that these 2 commandments where the 2 great commandments however the following verses will show that these commandments were not new and that the Jews and Jesus was speaking to were aware of them. These were the same ones issued to Israel by Moses.

Deuteronomy (6:5) And thy shall love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

Leviticus (19:18) Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

Now that it has been established that man was commanded to love one needs to examine the scriptures to get an understanding of the love required in these great commandments.

In the following verses Moses is telling the Israelites that God chose them strictly out of His love for them.Deuteronomy (7:7) The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people: (8) But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.

(9) Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;

Note in verse (9) Moses states a condition that God requires in order for Him to keep covenant and have mercy. And that is an individual must love God and keep His commandments. The scriptures will show that there is only one way to love God and that is by keeping His commandments.

Note that Jesus states in the following verse that in order to love Him one has to keep His commandments.

John (14:15) If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Jesus further defines the love He requires when He states in the following verse that those who have His commandments and keep them are those that love Him. One does not have to guess at Jesus definition of love He made it clear.

John (14:21) He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Jesus also reinforced what was said in Deuteronomy verse (9) by adding that those that love Him will be loved by the Father. How does one love Jesus? by keeping His commandments and Moses said God will keep covenant and have mercy with those who keep His commandments. So therefore by following Jesus one shall receive love from Him as well as mercy from the Father.

Note in these scriptures it did not say those who profess their love for Jesus or those that claim that Jesus knows what in their heart. Jesus made a clear and direct statement if one has His commandments and keeps them they are the ones who love Him. The statement that Jesus made as well as the condition Moses gave in Deuteronomy verse (9) were based on behalf of an individuals actions not their feeling or emotions or conditions. To exhibit love towards Jesus one must engage in a specific action and that action is being obedience to the word of God. And one will see that they are to be obedient regardless of their feeling or the surrounding circumstances.

Jesus states again in the following verses what is required of an individual to receive His love.

John (15:9) As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. (10) If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

Notice Jesus use the word if ye keep my commandments, so what happen if ye do not keep his commandments. The above verse shows to be loved of Jesus one needs to be obedient. Jesus also states in verse (10) that He was obedient to the Father by keeping His commandments and therefore abides in His love.

Thank you for the post, the "deeds of the law" is referring to the old covenant law as a whole. Not just animal sacrifices because sacrifices applies when you sin and needed forgiveness, as if no sacrifices then there is no forgiveness of sin (both animal sacrifices and law goes hand in hand). The new covenant though is forgiveness by believe in the Gospel no animal sacrifices. Christ is our sacrificial lamb. Believe in Him and your sins will be forgiven.

You cannot keep any commandments given under the old covenant the lamb as was only given so we can see our sinful ways. So you can never show love by trying to keep the Sinai law.

Michie · 2025-11-11T18:27:14-0600

FaithT said:
You’re welcome! How many stitches?

I don’t know. I did not count them. It was a big Z shaped incision that went up into her hairline to the corner of her right eye and across the cheek. There were a lot for sure.

ArmyMatt · 2025-11-11T18:17:28-0600

calicocat said:
He's a laughing-stock even among some of the more insane extreme ones. I'm honestly not certain he isn't a fed like Carlson.

doesn’t surprise me

Yarddog · 2025-11-11T18:16:35-0600

9Rock9 said:
Ah. That's pretty much what I think.

Inspiring Philosophy thinks Adam and Eve were basically priests, and the Eden was the holiest of holies. Thus, Adam had a special connection to God that the rest of humanity didn't have.

This, in a way, parallel Jesus, as he is referred to as the New Adam, is the representative of humanity, and is also a high priest.

About 20 years ago the Holy Spirit spoke to me and said, " Jesus is the Tree of Life, the Tree of Knowledge is the Law, and the Tower of Babylon represents all of those people that try to achieve heaven through their own efforts, including many Christians".

God the showed me that the Garden of Eden is righteousness. (A place that man must be created in God's image, perfect.) Adam and Eve are naked because in righteousness, we open ourselves to God and hide nothing.

Adam and Eve are the Hebrew people who received righteousness through faith from Abraham. The fruit of the Tree of knowledge is the desire to work for righteousness. Because of that, they were kicked out of righteousness. They rejected Jesus and embraced the Law.

God condemned Adam to work the soil
(works). It produces nothing worth while.

These are allegories. They could be real people but the hidden message is more important than the literal.

The Liturgist · 2025-11-11T18:13:10-0600

Chesterton said:
You know who else talks back like a human? Humans. I get emotionally triggered by talking to humans on CF, but not by talking to AI. More on that in the next post...

Except apparently neither you nor AI can actually reliably tell the difference. I, on the other hand, as someone who uses AI all the time, can spot it; you’re missing the actual telltales that I’ve worked so hard to to eliminate from my custom GPTs (but without complete success; there are some embedded Turing-tell behaviors that I can’t get the model to avoid without crushing the beauty of its output.

By the way you have given this conversation the character of a Philip K. Dick novel for which I salute you. Have you considered that you might have been replaced by an AI without realizing it?

ThatRobGuy · 2025-11-11T17:52:43-0600

He had to be really steamed about the flag to throw a Starbucks beverage on it... that cup of tea probably cost him $8 + tip.

essentialsaltes · 2025-11-11T17:39:48-0600

On Monday, Trump welcomed Syrian President Ahmad al-Sharaa to the White House despite his past ties to terrorism. The Syrian leader had links to Al-Qaeda under the nom de guerre Abu Mohammed al-Golani, and he battled U.S. forces in Iraq before entering the war in Syria.

At one point, al-Sharaa had a $10 million U.S. bounty on his head and was eventually imprisoned by U.S. forces in Syria for several years.

Loomer blamed the meeting between him and Trump on "the people who work for President Trump."

"Sometimes I feel like some of the people who work for President Trump deliberately go out of their way to sabotage him," the Trump insider wrote Tuesday on X. "Who said: let's invite the ISIS terrorist to the White House for a photo op in the Oval the day before Veterans Day? How many US soldiers did Julani kill?"

essentialsaltes · 2025-11-11T17:33:37-0600

The Blaze’s Pipe-Bomb Bombshell Appears to Bomb

The right-wing outlet claimed to solve the Jan. 6th pipe-bomb mystery

EARLY SATURDAY MORNING, the Blaze published the most hyped investigation from a right-wing media outlet in recent memory—an exposé on what it claimed was the likely identity of the January 6th pipe bomber.

In the Blaze’s telling, a female former Capitol Police officer who joined the CIA shortly after January 6th was “a forensic match” for the individual caught on camera footage the night before. The article, which included the woman’s name and several pictures of her, purported to be buttressed by “gait analysis” comparing the ex-officer to videos of the bomber.

The article’s claims ... were quickly picked up by leading Republicans, including Trump appointee Kari Lake and several Republican members of Congress. Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-Ga.), the chair of the House’s new January 6th subcommittee ... Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.). Rep. Anna Paulina Luna declared on X that “a capitol police officer placed a pipe bomb at the RNC on J6,” adding that the Blaze story was proof that Republicans would “all be in the gulag” if not for Trump.

Two days later, it seems like that excitement may have been more than a little overcooked. Rather than matching the Blaze’s reporting, rival January 6th reporters on the right are casting doubt on its conclusion.

In a sign of how things are going, Luna has quietly deleted her post about the woman’s identity.

When Trump took office again, MAGA expected answers. But, frustratingly for the right, the installation of Trump diehards like Kash Patel and Dan Bongino as the leaders of the FBI hasn’t turned up any more information.

After landmark lawsuits resulted in rulings against InfoWars and Fox News over conspiracy theories, putting them on the hook for massive amounts in damages, right-wing pundits have tended to go after more vaporous groups like the “cabal” or even just an unnamed “they,” the better to avoid the prospect of a similarly damaging libel suit. The fact that Baker had named and published photos of a specific person gave the impression that he might actually have the goods.

Now it gives the impression of an imminent damaging libel suit.

Michie · 2025-11-11T17:17:21-0600

As Democrats dominated statewide races in Virginia, one of the most high-profile school districts in the state and country elected a conservative school board candidate critical of the district's bathroom policies, the second election in a row that a seat in a blue district has been flipped.

Unofficial results compiled by the Virginia Public Access Project show Amy Riccardi winning 51.47% of the vote in the race for a seat on the Loudoun County Public Schools Board of Education representing the Sterling District.

Riccardi has defeated Democrat-endorsed incumbent Arben Istrefi, who captured 47.7% of the vote. Loudoun County Public Schools is a school district located in the suburbs of Washington, D.C., that has drawn national headlines in recent years amid debate over its policies related to trans-identifying students.

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Conservative wins seat on Loudoun County school board, slams district's bathroom policy

As Democrats dominated statewide races in Virginia, one of the most high-profile school districts in the state and country elected a conservative school board candidate critical of the district s

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BobRyan · 2025-11-11T17:05:23-0600

Ok so "Mamdani won 18 to 29-year-olds 77% to 20% and among the 30-44 age group, 70% to 27%"

18 to 44 vote him in at 70% or more.

Let all who voted for democratic socialism in NYC have their own means of production seized just as Mamdani stated. They could pool their resources and have the sort of communism that "pooled resources" with "means of production seized by the government" is intended to provide.

We could then send missionaries to NYC.

But what if NYC citizens then try to escape? Try to sneak over the border to free America? Should we wall them out?

Reluctant Theologian · 2025-11-11T17:00:12-0600

David Lamb said:
The bible doesn't tell us how old Mary was, nor does it tell us that she rode a donkey to Bethlehem. It also doesn't tell us that Joseph was much older than Mary. We have songs that tell us these things, for example, "Little Donkey" and "The Cherry Tree Carol" which begins: "Joseph was an old man, an old man was he." But such songs are unbiblical.

Information/facts that are not mentioned in the Bible may not be necessarily untrue. The early church has circulating info and sometimes literature/books with extra-Biblical stories - of course the reliability and authenticity of those are at a very different level than the Biblical texts (and may even be completely fabricated), but there is no reason to dismiss by definition ALL extra-Biblical accounts/stories/books. These were part of early Christian society and its written or oral tradition. We assume all kind of historical events based on extra-Biblical information ..

JSRG · 2025-11-11T16:26:30-0600

Yttrium said:
Are you saying that Biden't corrupt pardons justify Trump's corrupt pardons?

I disagree.

I don't think they justify them. However, it does annoy me when people talk about how awful Trump's corrupt pardons are if they didn't raise similar complaints against Biden's.

Every time a President offers corrupt pardons I hope it will finally incentivize people to get rid of, or at least restrict, the pardon power, but despite it being something both Democrats and Republicans complain about, there doesn't seem to have been much legislative movement in that direction.

Isaac the Recluse · 2025-11-11T16:26:23-0600

Surely neglecting apostles is ludicrous.

LUDIC

Vanellus · 2025-11-11T16:22:57-0600

More evidence that Israelis are more concerned about any leaking which shows Israel in a bad light and much less concerned about the abuse of prisoners.

A leaked IDF video showing alleged detainee abuse has Israel reeling, but not in the way you might think | Roy Schwartz

However, the criticism in the Israeli journalist’s post was not aimed directly at Tomer-Yerushalmi. His main target was Channel 12’s legal analyst, Guy Peleg, who aired the leaked footage. Just last week, it was reported that Channel 12 News had assigned a security detail to Peleg, due to concerns that there might be attempts to harm him. Not long afterwards, Amichai Eliyahu, the heritage minister, posted about Peleg on his X account: “My heart is broken … In prison, he will be safe.” Last weekend even saw fans of Peleg’s favourite football club hold a banner in the stadium, informing him he is unwelcome there.

If Peleg is harmed then the heritage minister will be guilty of incitement.

This comes as no surprise. In Israeli society, there is a prevailing notion that soldiers should be bulletproof – “even sacred”, as Haaretz journalist Tom Levinson told me. “It feels as if they should be able to do whatever they want, and there shouldn’t be any repercussions.” This applies to accusations of war crimes in the Gaza Strip as well as to actions outside the territory.

chevyontheriver · 2025-11-11T16:19:24-0600

Michie said:
At the University of California Berkeley on Monday (Nov. 10), a bloody clash erupted as hundreds of people protested a Turning Point USA (TPUSA) event. The final stop of the “American Comeback Tour” occurred two months after TPUSA cofounder Charlie Kirk was assassinated on a Utah campus. The Berkeley stop also was the organization’s first visit to California since Kirk’s death.

Video of the melee showed masked protesters chanting and waving signs. One man wearing a “Freedom” T-shirt had blood dripping down his face. Some protesters lit firebombs, hurled glass containers, and threw rocks at police in riot gear. According to news reports, four people were arrested.

Event cohost Frank Turek, a Christian apologist who mentored Kirk, recalled telling Kirk how much he wanted to attend the Berkeley event. “It is so progressive and liberal in [its] views,” Turek said of the university, “and I wanted to provide evidence that Christianity was indeed true.”

Chaos Outside UC Berkeley’s TPUSA Event

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Violent Protests Erupt Outside Turning Point USA Event at UC Berkeley

At UC Berkeley on Monday (Nov. 10), a bloody clash erupted as hundreds of people protested a Turning Point USA (TPUSA) event.

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More ‘mostly peaceful’ protest I see.

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