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The History of the “Two Laws” Theory in Romans 3:20
- By RandyPNW
- General Theology
- 266 Replies
You're trying to use a truism as proof! Of course, every case in which Paul observes Sabbath rest is a genuine example of him practicing Sabbath rest! But that doesn't mean he was ever doing this out of observance of the OT Law!If Paul did so he was affirming that they were ten commandments *under the Law of Moses.*
Sorry, it doesn't have to spelled out that Jesus was speaking of Jews. Obviously, he was speaking to Jews and knew that the Sabbath Law had only been given to the Jews.
James was using OT Law as an example of how *any sin* keeps Mankind from obtaining Eternal Life by his own works. That was the lesson of the Fall in the garden of Eden. A single sin contaminated Adam and Eve, and got them kicked out of the garden and away from the Tree of Life.
The Law of Moses was designed to affirm this truth to Israel, to make them hope for God's mercy, which would be revealed in Christ. Christ provided a Salvation *apart from the Law of Moses* so that they could find mercy in Jesus despite their record of sin under the Law.
Israel no longer has to serve God under the bondage of the Law, which bound them to Sin and Death. They can simply follow Jesus. The 10 Commandments, and Sabbath Law, are completely fulfilled in his righteousness. And he was not subject to the Law. He *gave* the Law!
We are told in Jer 31.32 that the New Covenant will be for Israel something different from the Commandments and Laws given at Horeb.
I've read it and explained it. OT language was used in the OT period in order not to discourage continued respect for the Law. But Sabbath to Sabbath simply means Week to Week.
I don't know when you will begin to understand that Jesus spoke, during his earthly ministry, to Israel while they were *still under the Law.* The veil had not yet been rent. The New Covenant had not yet been sealed in Jesus' blood. Therefore, the Law of Moses was still in play, and Jesus indicated that every requirement was needed to show every aspect of what Messiah would do.
You gotta believe what you want to believe is true.
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Heating up down under
- By Servus
- Physical & Life Sciences
- 7 Replies
I see you skipped talking about how much huge money the $8,000,000,000,000 Green Industry, and the DNC, has to gain from Climate Change Panic. That the Green Industry made an extra $2,000,000,000,000 in 2024 and has given millions in political donations.Not when those hottest places have measurements going back to 1910.
Yes - as if this is news to any actual scientist - let alone climate scientist. Or any humanities geek like myself who has read a bit. Do you know WHY the climate changes? What the top drivers are? What causes a glacial period and interglacial period over tens of thousands of years - or what about LONGER term climate trends over the 10's of millions of years?
Like I said - I'm not even a scientist. But even I know some of these things.
A couple of degrees hotter? Maybe you're thinking of weather.
A couple of degrees of CLIMATE change should scare you - should make you angry - should make you think of the inter-generational immorality of us living as if we allowed to squander our children and grandchildren's futures!
Didn't Calvin himself say the farmer should leave his fields in better condition than he found them? He had basic ideas of stewardship in mind.
Maybe you don't understand the difference between weather and climate?
Think of water in a bathtub. Weather is the toddler splashing and making waves. The amount of water stays the same, but the waves rock back and forth with the water level. Climate change is that someone left the tap on, and soon that toddler could drown!
Climate change is the energy imbalance of the planet - the extra energy 'trapped' by the sunlight bouncing off the earth's surface as heat, and being trapped by the thicker blanket of gases surrounding the earth.
It's going up about to 2 Hiroshima bombs per second, every second, of every minute, of every hour, of every day, of every day of the year. All year around. It shows up in glaciers melting, heat records toppling, seasons out of whack, grubs hatching and dying before the baby birds hatch so they can eat the grubs. It's the very food web is out of whack.
It's global crop yields down a quarter as the population goes UP a quarter by 2050.
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And Exxon knew about it all from their own scientists way back in 1977.
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Exxon scientists said...
In 1982 they sent a document marked “not to be distributed externally.”
“Preventing global warming … would require major reductions in fossil fuel combustion. Unless that happened, there are some potentially catastrophic events that must be considered … Once the effects are measurable, they might not be reversible.”
Exxon CO2 Primer (1982) - Inside Climate News
This document describes the state of the science on the greenhouse effect was widely circulated among Exxon management.insideclimatenews.org
It seems sir - that you have a lot more reading and thinking to do.
Unless of course, like most MAGA you just think "That's what you CHOOSE to believe - I choose to believe something else."
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I wonder how much money the 8 Trillion Dollar and growing Green Industry is putting into Climate Change Science? According to AI it's over a Trillion Dollars, and expected to increase substantially.
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New York Times, AP, Newsmax among news outlets who say they won’t sign new Pentagon rules
- By Pommer
How dare members of the fourth estate not kowtow to the Secretary of War!?
New York Times, AP, Newsmax among news outlets who say they won't sign new Pentagon rules
The New York Times, The Associated Press and the conservative television network Newsmax are among five outlets on Monday who say they won't sign a new Defense Department document about its new press rules.apnews.com
Sounds like this Hegseth directive is being broadly rejected by media outlets, big & small, and across the political spectrum.
All of the big ones are in broad agreement (ABC, NBC, CBS, and Fox News), and even the very "MAGA-friendly" Newsmax is opposing it as well.
Mercy me, whatever shall we do?
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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History
- Physical & Life Sciences
- 735 Replies
Not one well provenanced vase in the bunch. Many measured runouts in excess of 0.1 mm. No procedure described to calculate any quality metrics.
Where the author believes it to be a modern fake or reworked original.Also here with the geometry which is fully laid out in steps with calculations.
Geometric Analysis of The Pre-Dynastic Granite Artifact
An interesting geometrical analysis of an extremely precise and high-resolution mesh, obtained via structured light scanning of a granite artifact, that is purpoted to originate from pre-dynastic Egypt.unsigned.io
And in their table all but two vases have a median circularity > 0.1 mm (they are 72 and 96 µm). And median doesn't tell the complete story. Look in the surface deviation plots for all the vases (https://3ee9be00-b8a0-4f00-991d-97c...d/3ee9be_e79661f238934aed91a28269a61725d8.pdf) not the cherry picked best example.The Artifact Foundation also done a Report.
Petrie Museum | Artifact Foundation
www.artifactfoundation.org
It's not he uses the the geometric mean of the median circularity and concentricity, Max sums the mean error rmse and concentricity offset and standard deviation of the concentricity offset. Just as you were wrong when you falsely ascribed a PhD to Karoly.
If you're going to find the symmetry axis of the hypothalamus then you need to use PCA to determine the best symmetry axis, on what is in effect cylindrical objects it is not needed. Max didn't feel the need in any case.
0.2 mm as a median score is not the normal tolerance metric such as it would be if it is the difference in radius between the an inner and outer circle that covers all the measured points (see ISO 1101). So there is some sleight-of-hand with definitions going on here.
Those were not from the Petrie museum collection.
Measures themselves are not science, they speculating on the skills of egyptian artisans is not science.
I don't need to do anything other than tell them that until they publish their results in peer-reviewed journals all they are doing is conjecture.
An object measuring 5 cm is not science.
According to Max they didn't cluster with the precise vases.
Independent but with overlap in participants.
Metrology is a science in itself, people do science in the field of metrology. If you say some is doing the science of metrology your saying something more than they know how to take a measure. So yes, to be good in the science of metrology you actually need to publish is metrology journals.
Taking measures by it self is not the science of metrology.
If they publish in metrology journals they go over the equipment and methods in excruciating detail.
He has two peer-reviewed articles, neither of which is in any adjacent field to geomtrical light scanning.
Yes, but it is not related to geometry scanning of vases.Max does Gamma Spectroscopy, Neutron Detection, Alpha Dection which all require an understanding of metrology. Even more complex than simple vase measures.
Neutron Detection – Maximus Energy
maximus.energy
That depends on how obviously wrong they are, flat earthers are wackos even if they happen to be scientistst.
No need since they don't seem to want to publish in peer-reviewed journals.
Yes, and it has been a problem since the advent of modern scientific practices.
Then we will have to live in forever suspense, not speculating on unknown technology X.
So what are the pairwise likelihood ratios or Bayes factors for using unknown method X vs "ortohodox measures" vs "ortohodox measures" + turntable vs modern fakery?
Then we will probably never guess it correctly either, what's the problem?
Yes, every single example you say is a product of an megalithic culture needs to be investigated and placed by the best researchers in that field as an megalithic culture work.
Sitting at home guessing is all good, trying to convince others in the field requires more that that (let's start with peer-review).
No one is stopping them.
Very good, is a very subjective term.
They could just publish it a peer-reviewed journal, you know.
Your opinion is noted, I don't share it.
They could just publish it a peer-reviewed journal, you know.
I said something about me.
They could just publish it a peer-reviewed journal, you know.
They could just publish it a peer-reviewed journal, you know.
That wasn't close to my admittedly badly written objection. Why dont they just use the normal ISO 1101 measure of circularity or roundness?
There's no bigger picture if the constituent parts haven't been criticized and published.
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USA military air force wore a My Little Pony badge
- By Pommer
People are free to be irrational.
Americans both bought and sold something called a Pet Rock, after all.
“Flight crews carry lucky-charms” too on-point?Back in 2013, a U.S. Air Force unit training to fly America’s most advanced military aircraft wore a patch inspired by the television show My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.
The Air Force confirmed it: bronies were flying jets.
“We train world-class pilots who will go on to defend our great nation,” said 1st Lt. Tom Barger, a public affairs officer at Vance Air Force Base in Oklahoma. “Fostering camaraderie, morale and unity on a regular basis and through small means—like a tastefully humorous patch—enhances our ability to complete the mission when working as a team is essential.”
The pink and purple patch—first spotted by My Little Pony fan site Equestria Daily—and worn by 24 flight students from Joint Undergraduate Specialized Pilot Class 14-05, referenced the cable cartoon show about a team of magical ponies.
Yooooo, this is just too awesome.
And it helps combat stereotypes and shows cartoons aren't just for kids and can be enjoyed by anybody.
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Trump's reputation will age like fine wine
- By eclipsenow
- American Politics
- 36 Replies
Ha ha ha.
I "predict" that the world and other 66% of Americans that DIDN'T vote for Trump already see him like this!
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Science
- By Michie
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
- 6 Replies
AI summary:
No, according to Catholic teaching, Adam and Eve are not a myth but are considered the real, first parents of all humanity. While the biblical creation story is understood to convey profound truths through symbolic and spiritual language, the Church teaches that Adam and Eve were literal, historical individuals from whom the human race descends and in whom Original Sin is rooted.
No, according to Catholic teaching, Adam and Eve are not a myth but are considered the real, first parents of all humanity. While the biblical creation story is understood to convey profound truths through symbolic and spiritual language, the Church teaches that Adam and Eve were literal, historical individuals from whom the human race descends and in whom Original Sin is rooted.
- Literal first parents:
The Catechism of the Catholic Churchstates that the whole of human history is marked by the original fault committed by our first parents, Adam and Eve. Catholic Answers emphasizes that the Church teaches they were real, literal first parents from whom all humans descend.
- Symbolic and literal:
The Church teaches that the Genesis account is both real and symbolic. The events took place in reality, but the story may not be a literal, scientific, or historical retelling of events. Catholic scholars often see the Genesis stories as symbolic, metaphoric stories that express basic truths about the human condition, while still being accounts of real history.
- Monogenism vs. Polygenism:
This teaching is tied to the concept of monogenism (the idea that humans descended from one couple). The Church's position is that all people are descendants of Adam and Eve and are implicated in their sin, a belief that stands in contrast to the theory of polygenism (humans descending from many progenitors).
- No definitive position on every detail:
While the Church holds that Adam and Eve were real, it does not have a definitive position on every specific detail of their existence or the exact circumstances of the human race's origin, especially in light of scientific discoveries.
Adam, Eve, and Evolution
The controversy surrounding evolution touches on our most central beliefs about ourselves and the world. Find out what Catholics believe about it.www.catholic.com
- Adam and Eve Were Real People
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