Colo Millz said:

Incidentally I loved The Exorcist.

There's nothing more Catholic than a good old Satanic horror movie and in that particular film the priests are the heros, of course.

The scene in that movie that bugged everyone out wasn't the final exorcism scenes but the spinal tap scene.

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keras said:

I refuse to get any further involved in ancient events that we cannot prove.

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Gregory Thompson said:

Every other christian generation faced persecution and martyrdom, but my generation is special, the rules don't apply at all. God's totally gonna teleport us out of here like in some occult fantasy novel.

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BelieveItOarKnot said:

Point 1, good!

Point 2 doesn't necessarily follow. There is exactly none of us that are apart from God's Direct influences internally OR the influences of the adversary internally. Therefore freewill is, well, kind of nonsense. There are, scripturally, 3 wills in operation within mankind, which makes freewill a moot point.

Plus it's technically a Godless claim to start with. Man claiming God is not in them, in their will.

People only believe it so they have some basis to pat themselves on the back for making the right decisions to get into heaven. Sure ya did.

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Studyman said:

Matt. 3: 7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O "generation of vipers", who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: 9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

Same world, same serpent, same "other voice". Jesus fought against the philosophies promoted by these preachers His whole life. Not because they obeyed God's Word, but because they rejected God's Word.

How many time did Jesus address the mainstream preachers of His Time? How much of HIS Teaching was geared towards exposing the hypocrisy and wickedness of the Priests of the Temple in the City of God? And they murdered Him for it.

Paul, being zealous for the commandments and traditions of men this worldly religion promoted, persecuted God's Church, just as the wicked Kings of Israel did to the Faithful, and Cain did to Abel.

Jesus and Paul battled, Not God's Judgments and Ordinances, but the commandments and judgments of men that "professed to know God".

When Jesus was asked about the end times and what to look out for, here is what HE warned about.

Matt. 24: 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. (He didn't warn about God or His laws and judgments deceiving us) 5 For "many" shall come in my name, saying, I (Jesus) am Christ; and "shall deceive" many.
He didn't warn about the "commandments contained of God's Ordinances", He didn't warn about the "handwriting of ordinances of God" that was against them, HE specifically warned about being deceived by "other voices" who profess to know God, even coming in HIS Name”.
Paul fought against these mainstream religions of the world God placed him in, every day after his conversion. Their philosophy, their ordinances and laws, were against him and against the church of God, just as they had been since the very first "other voice" who professed to God, deceived Eve. He didn't fight against God's Law, He fought against the principalities and powers of darkness. It was the Pharisees Law that condemned Jesus and Stephen to death. Just as it was their fathers law that condemned the prophets God sent to them, just as it was Eves Law that instructed her to eat, what God said not to eat.

But in many sermons on Colossians and Ephesians, promoted by the preachers of this world God placed me in, all of this is ignored, not even considered in the "context" of their teaching.
Because of the omission of these extremely important Biblical Truths, this world's religions have always united in their teaching that God's Judgments and Feasts and commandments are "against men". As a result they incorrectly identify the author of the "Handwriting of Ordinances" that Paul said was against Jesus, Paul and the Body of Christ, claiming it was God, when it wasn't, in Colossians. And they do the same in Ephesians, preaching that it was “God’s” Ordinances and Judgments" that relegated Faithful Gentiles as “without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:”

Anyone who is willing to study God’s Word, knows this is not true. God very Law gave hope and an avenue to Him for "ALL" people, we can tread this for ourselves.

Lev. 19: 33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him. 34 But "the stranger" that dwelleth with you "shall be unto you" as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.


This world's religions do the same When Peter says in acts 15, "why tempt you God to place a Yoke on the necks of the disciples that they or their fathers couldn't bear". The promoters of this world's religions teach this “Yoke” is God's Laws that they claim, and have always claimed "were against them".

But Jesus Himself tells us who created this Yoke.

Matt. 23: 4 For they (Pharisees, not God) bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and "lay them on men's shoulders"; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. Of course Peter knew this because he was there when Jesus taught it, and he knew of the Shepherds who lead God people astray "by the precepts of men", spoken of by the Holy Prophets.
I could go on and on. Jesus said men are to live by "Every Word" of God, and I believe Him. But “MANY” have been convinced by the "other voice" that some of God's Word are against them and contrary to them and therefore men shouldn't live by them. Exactly the same message given to Eve in the very beginning. Paul warns about this very thing, from turning away from the Simplicity of Christ. “Live by God’s Words”, not "other voices".

Paul warns of this very thing also in Colossians and Ephesians.

Col. 2: 8 Beware lest "any man" spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition “of men”, after the rudiments “of the world”, and not after Christ. (The Rock that followed, Fed and Watered Israel)

Eph. 2: 1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course “of this world”, according to the "prince of the power of the air", “the spirit” that now worketh “in the children of disobedience”:

But somehow in spite of all this teaching, we are preached to by "many", who call Jesus Lord, Lord, that it wasn't the Traditions, philosophies and ordinances of men that was against Paul and the Church of God, it was the Ordinances of God.

It is my hope that anyone reading this will “do the Study themselves”, in Faith that God is Perfect, and it is philosophies of the "other voices" in the World that God placed us in, that was against Jesus, Paul and the Church of God, and is against the Faithful even to this day. And that Jesus didn't "live by" the Commandments of men they taught for doctrines. And even though they killed Him, the very God they Professed to know, raised Him from the dead. Truly HE triumphed over the prince of this world whose ordinances condemned Him to death.

And for that I say, "Amen".

Please don't hesitate to ask questions or PM me to engage in honest discussions about these things.

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Meowzltov said:

I hope I'm in the right forum. This is the debate forum that non-Christians are allowed to participate in? If not, please be so kind as to move my posts to the proper place. I'm here to be a good neighbor.

Jakechi, first, please know that I feel as you do about the harm that our cultures absolute obsession with sex is having. It's not healthy. I'm not sure that I would classify it as sinful so much as DYSFUNCITONAL, very bad for our emotional wellbeing. The worst of it is how much exposure to sexual imagery and topics CHILDREN are getting. SMH.

I would like to respond to your comment on rape. Rape has nothing to do with sex. It has to do with power. The man may use his sex organ to dominate and subjugate the woman (or man) but he's not raping because he wants to make love to her, he's raping because he is angry and needs to be a violent bully.

Although the public response to rape today has a lot of room for improvement, we are honestly a lot better today than in the past. Go back 100 years, and the woman who was raped was routinely blamed for her rape. Her skirt was too short. She shouldn't have been walking in the dark. What was she doing at the bar. She led him on by smiling. Real ROT.

There is still a major problem with rapists not being convicted. About 13% of women in the United States have experienced a completed rape in their lifetime. Of these rapes, only about 25-33% are ever reported to the police. Among the cases that are reported, approximately 20-30% lead to an arrest. From the pool of arrests, about 60% result in prosecution. Of those prosecutions, roughly 60-70% lead to a conviction. If you do the math, that means only 2-3% of all rapes ever end in conviction. That's really tough to accept.

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timewerx said:

Ironically the side project I have put on hold could solve many of their problems especially the big ones.

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timewerx said:

But if it works, it can dramatically shift the geopolitics in the region, and I'd be riding a huge wave staying ahead to fund my the next phase of the project. Success or failure.

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timewerx said:

I forgot! But I remember about AI giving similar solutions you're proposing. I consider AI feminine purely by behavior and nature of replies and mirrors your posts so I'm not mistaken on your gender!

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RocksInMyHead said:

I've been respectful.

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RocksInMyHead said:

Your evasiveness, non-answers, and bad-faith arguments, on the other hand...

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Desk trauma said:

Dont be silly, its greta thunberg.

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Dan Perez said:

This is what John 3:5 says !!

# 1. Jesus answered ?? IESOUS , is. in. the. Nominative Case , in. the Singular

# 2. ANSWERED //. APOKRNOMI , in. the Aorist Tense , in. the MIDDLE VOICE , in. the Indicative Mood. , in. the SINGULAR

# 3 I. Say //. LEGO . in. the PRESENT TENSE , in. the INDICATIVE MOOD , in. the. SIGNULAR

# 4. UNTO THEE //. SOI , is. a PERSONAL POSSESSEIVE PRONOUN. , in. the DATIVE CASE , in. the SINGULAR

# 5. EXCEPT // ME , is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE. NEGATIVE.

# 6. A MAN // TIS , is indefinite article. , in. the nominative CASE , in the SINGULAR

# 7. BE BORN //. GENNAO , in. the. AORIST TENSE , is a SUBJUNATIVE TENSE , in. the Singular

# 8 OF // EK , is a PREPOSTION

# 9 WATER // HYDOR , in. the GENITIVE CASE in. th SINGULAT in. the NEUTER

# 10 AND // KAI , is. a CONJUNCATION

# 11 THE SPIRIT //. PNUEMA , in the GENITIVE CASE in the SIGNULAR , in. the NEUTER

# 12. HE CANNOT // DYANNAI , in. the PRESENT TENSE , in. the MIDDLE VOICE , in a INDICATIVE MOOD , in the SINGULAR

# 13. ENTER // EXSERCHOMAI. , in. the AORIST TENSE , in. the ACTIVE VOICE ,

# 14 INTO // EIS , PREPOSTION.

# 15. THE KINGDOM //. BASLEIA. ,, in. the. ACCUSATIVE CASE , in. the SINGULAR

# 16 OF GOD //. THEOS. , in. the GENITIVE CASE , in the SINGULAR

And my question is Hoe re you BORN of WATER and of the SPIRIT. ??

Can. you give a clear verse ??

dan p

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Mercy Shown said:

1. Romans 5:13 does not mean there is “no sin without law.”​

Rebuttal:
Paul is not denying that people sinned before the Mosaic Law — in fact, he explicitly says “sin was in the world.”
He means that before the written law, sin was not charged in the same way because there was no formal, codified standard. Yet death still reigned (Romans 5:14), proving sin existed and was judged.

Supporting texts:

• Romans 2:14–15 — Gentiles “who do not have the law” still have a law written on their hearts and are accountable.
• Romans 4:15 — “Where there is no law, there is no transgression” — meaning no legal violation of a covenant code, not no moral guilt.

So “no law, no sin” is a misreading. Sin always existed (Genesis 4:7; 6:5); the Mosaic Law simply revealed it more clearly (Romans 7:7–9).

2. Sin is indeed “transgression of the law,” but that doesn’t mean the Mosaic Law still governs believers.​

Rebuttal:
John is not redefining sin but reaffirming that lawlessness is rebellion against God’s moral will. But under the New Covenant, believers are under “the law of Christ” (Galatians 6:2), not the old Mosaic code.

Supporting texts:

• Romans 6:14 — “You are not under law but under grace.”
• 1 Corinthians 9:20–21 — Paul distinguishes between being “under the law” (Moses) and being “under the law of Christ.”
• Hebrews 8:13 — The old covenant is “obsolete.”

Moral truth (don’t murder, don’t steal, etc.) continues, but the covenantal framework (the Ten Commandments as part of Sinai) does not bind believers.

3. The “two laws” framework is artificial.​

The Bible never calls the Ten Commandments and sacrificial system two distinct laws. They are parts of one covenantgiven at Sinai.

Supporting texts:

• Deuteronomy 4:13–14 — “He declared to you His covenant… the Ten Commandments… and the LORD commanded me at that time to teach you statutes and judgments.”
  → Both were part of one covenant.
• 2 Corinthians 3:7–11 — The law “engraved on stones” (the Ten Commandments) is called the ministry of deathand has been done away in Christ.

So Scripture never divides the law into “moral” vs. “ceremonial” categories in the way later theologians do.

4. The Levitical sacrifices did indeed atone for unintentional sins, but that was temporary and symbolic.​

Leviticus 4–5 shows sacrifices were for unintentional sins, but the whole system pointed to Christ.

Supporting texts:

• Hebrews 10:1–4 — “The law is only a shadow… it can never… make perfect those who draw near.”
• Hebrews 10:10–14 — “We are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.”

The writer of Hebrews explicitly says the entire sacrificial system and priesthood (not just part of the law) has been replaced.

5. Galatians 3:19 refers to the Mosaic Law as a whole, not just sacrifices.​

Rebuttal:
The “law” here means the entire Mosaic code, including the Ten Commandments. It was given after the promise to Abraham to define sin and prepare for Christ (Romans 5:20; Galatians 3:24).

Supporting texts:

• Galatians 3:23–25 — “Now that faith has come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.”
  → If the “law” were only sacrifices, then we would still be “under” the Ten Commandments — but Paul says “no longer under the law.”
• Romans 10:4 — “Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.”

Thus, Galatians 3 is not distinguishing two laws but showing the entire Mosaic system was temporary until Christ.

6. Romans 3:31 does not reinstate the Law of Moses.​

Rebuttal:
Paul means faith fulfills the law’s righteous purpose, not that believers remain under its covenant authority. Through Christ, the law’s moral intent is written on our hearts (Romans 8:3–4; Jeremiah 31:33).

Supporting texts:

• Matthew 5:17 — Christ “fulfilled” the law, not perpetuated the old covenant form.
• Romans 8:2 — “The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and death.”

Faith “establishes” the law by achieving what it aimed at — righteousness through Christ (see Romans 10:4 again).

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