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GodAndChocolateVanilla · 2025-11-12T11:20:10-0600

I did more Drawing today!! ^w^ It was fun!! Thank You God!!

linux.poet · 2025-11-12T11:07:55-0600

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Flaming, goading, and attacking your fellow Christians is not how to address this subject. As all the arguments presented here have led to that, all of them are wrong.

Flaming churches for using discernment over the phone is not really a good way to discuss this, and led to flaming those who disagreed with your flaming of a church. Churches need to know where a person is and what spiritual condition they are in in order to best help the person. They cannot give out cash in America because someone could lie to them and use the cash to buy illegal drugs. For these reasons, churches will help you if you show up in person, not over the phone. They need to get to know you before they can help, but they do help. Many churches in my area stock gift cards to give out to people in need and have benevolence funds to help Christians in their congregation who are struggling. Considering these facts may help you build a more rule-following discussion around these issues in the future that is more fair to churches and your fellow Christians here at CF.

In certain areas churches may be strapped for resources, but they should refer people to community resources that can help them instead of just refusing to help. Churches who do these referrals should not be shamed or blamed, as that leads to the more extreme flaming that we saw here.

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Clare73 · 2025-11-12T11:05:55-0600

fhansen said:
Death of the soul is a metaphor historically used for the same concept- for that which happens when one is separated from God. And that's the point. So are you denying that man is born dead metaphorically, while truly dead to God, and must be born again?

I don't traffic in human metaphors for Biblically-stated truth.
Metaphors contain untruth and are problematic for Biblical concepts.

"Spiritual death" is the absence of eternal life within the humn immortal spirit, it is not "death of the soul."
Spiritual death does not mean current physical death, nor death of the human immortal spirit.
Most of living mankind is in spiritual death; i.e. no eternal life within their immortal human spirits.

fhansen said:
A distinction without much of a difference.

You make no distinction between physical death and spiritual death, seemingly treating them as the same thing.

1) The human spirit is immortal and does not die.
2) Spiritual death is not death of the immortal human spirit, it is the absence of eternal life within the immortal human spirit.
3) Spiritual death is not physical death.
4) Physical death is death of the physical body.

fhansen said:
How is imputing sin to anyone who isn't guilty of it any different-or better- or more just? You don't quite seem to get it. All fell with Adam and so all share the same fate and consequences. All are equally dead. All need to be born again in order to live. Why, would you speculate, do all of Adam's descendants inevitably sin? Hint: there's something more wrong with them than imputed sin.

You'll have to take that up with God. . .my suggestion would be:
1) because God said that man does not inherit sin (Eze 18:20), therefore, God imputes it, and that is
2) because God ordained that imputation of Adam's sin be the pattern (Ro 5:14) for the imputation of Christ's righteousness (Ro 5:18-19).

GodAndChocolateVanilla · 2025-11-12T11:05:37-0600

I'm at the Library right now!! I'm at a different one than I usually go to. ^w^

Michie · 2025-11-12T11:02:16-0600

Former "Queen of Porn” Jenna Jameson has revealed she’s been baptized and is now using her platform to help others “find Jesus.”

“After decades of being known for my body and sin, getting baptized and helping others find Jesus too,” the 51-year-old wrote alongside an Instagram video of herself looking at the camera, before mouthing the words “switching sides.”

She captioned the post, “Crack the Bible … you won’t regret it,” along with a cross emoji.

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Former 'Queen of Porn' Jenna Jameson gets baptized, wants to use platform to help others 'find Jesus'

Former Queen of Porn Jenna Jameson has revealed she s been baptized and is now using her platform to help others find Jesus

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Michie · 2025-11-12T10:58:47-0600

Authorities say a man who was recently fired from his job was arrested for threatening to commit a mass shooting at a Florida megachurch.

Michael Iaboni, 32, was arrested late Saturday evening and booked early Sunday morning over videos he posted and later deleted from his social media in which he threatened to attack a local church.

According to an affidavit from the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office, Iaboni stated in the video that "I got fired, and I'm fired up." He declared, "It's all kill shot."

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‘It’s all kill shot’: Man arrested for allegedly threatening mass shooting at megachurch

A man who was recently fired from his job was arrested for allegedly threatening to commit a mass shooting at a Florida megachurch

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Say it aint so · 2025-11-12T10:48:17-0600

There are two sources who have said Trump is selling pardons. I makes one wonder.

timf · 2025-11-12T10:45:09-0600

The death of self is a metaphor for the acknowledgement of one's own ability. It is similar to those in AA who acknowledge a power greater than themselves. Christianity spread for the first 300 years under very adverse conditions. It was not so much the intellectual acknowledgement of theological propositions that were persuasive. It was the reality of changed lives.

It is difficult for us to understand in modern society but up until a little over 100 years ago most everyone on earth grew up, lived, and died in the village where they were born. Thieu friends were their siblings and cousins who were much more numerous than today. People knew each other with a depth that few achieve today. When a person was transformed from a shrewish wife or a drunken husband into some one who cared about others, it was recognized and often desired to have that change for themselves.

The "death" may be thought of more as the willingness to be made a different person. The environments of prison and hospitals often produce people more interested in this sort of transformation. In a country club environment the satisfaction with daily pleasures seldom inspires one to change.

reddogs · 2025-11-12T10:37:19-0600

Clare73 said:
It's not about "the Protestant denominations," it's about the word of God in Scripture.

The rejection of a non-Scriptural doctrine (Co-Redemptrix) puts one in agreement with the God-breathed (theopnuestos, 2 Tim 3:16) word of God written.

Well, as you saw from King Charles the 'head' of the Anglican church, they are all turning and following after the entity that prophecy said would happen.

stevevw · 2025-11-12T10:29:27-0600

Michie said:
English Literature students at the University of Sheffield in the United Kingdom have been warned: Scripture contains some “graphic bodily injury and sexual violence.” Specifically, the institution highlighted the Old Testament account of Cain killing Abel and the gospel accounts of Jesus’ crucifixion.

Other literary works also receive trigger warnings, the university explained. In a statement, it said that type of “content note is a standard academic tool used to signpost when sensitive or graphic content will be discussed.”

But critics called the move a form of censorship, saying it is “misguided” and “absurd” to label God’s Word as potentially triggering.

Bible Receives Trigger Warning from University of Sheffield

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UK University Slaps Violence Warning on Bible, Citing the Crucifixion and Cain and Abel

English Lit. students at the University of Sheffield in the U.K. have been warned: Scripture contains “graphic bodily injury and sexual violence.”

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Its all about triggers and safe spaces to the point that it actually causes anxiety and division. If Cain killing Abel is a trigger warning then just about everything is a trigger warning. The news is a trigger warning whats happening in Nigeria is a trigger warning. Live assassinations on campuses are trigger warnings.

It is true that theres a lot of violence everywhere. But all this PC is really making it worse. Life is horrible sometimes. But what they don't tell you with the bible is there is a moral to the story. They always want to make it bad and leave out the good bits. If students got the full picture then they would actually be less triggered in life.

Hawkins · 2025-11-12T10:28:47-0600

This is tied to how history is legitimately written. Chinese history is also canonized, and as a necessity or else historical information cannot convey legitimately. The Jews often quote from difference sources, including common stories, common theologies which are usually Pharisaic in nature, just as Jesus put, "the Pharisees are on Moses' seat" (the significance is that Canon needs an authority to legitimize it).

Quotes from common stories include how archangel Michael had a dispute with Satan on the corpse of Moses. When this was quoted, at best it means the source is partially reliable, or more strictly speaking only this part of the source book is legitimate. The quote itself doesn't automatically legitimize the whole book. Canonization on the other hand, authenticate the whole book as being legitimate and can be regarded as the Word of God. That lies a fundamental difference.

The OT canonization started (as authorized by God) with King Hezekiah. It's said that 17 out of the 24 books of the Jewish OT Canon are with the mark or seal of King Hezekiah. The more critical authentication is through Ezra (authorized by God). It seems that 22 out of the 24 canonical books are the effort more or less from Ezra. These 22 books were written in Hebrew. 2 more books were added later, more likely they are the book of Ezra (naturally so) and the book of Daniel (there's a reason for this as well, by God's will). These two books were written in Aramaic as a later add-in. They are legitimized by the Pharisees (more likely involving Pharisee elites inside the Great Sanhedrin) near Jesus' days. Even Josephus only reckoned the 22 book version of the Jewish Canon (Josephus is an elite Pharisee but not one in the inner circle of the Great Sanhedrin, Paul is a closer candidate to the Great Sanhedrin).

That said, Daniel was added (as by God's will) to the Canon, more likely because Daniel actually encountered Jesus, if you compare the description of Jesus' appearance in Revelation with that in Daniel. The Jews didn't reckon Daniel as a formal prophet, but Jesus authenticated Daniel by calling him a prophet directly.

In a nutshell, whenever an outside source is referenced, whether it's from a common story, a common Pharisaic theology or even from the Septuagint, it only means that part of the book is reliable, no less no more. In contrast, only a canonical book can be deemed as the Scripture or Word of God. Only the Scripture is not broken, as Jesus put.

durangodawood · 2025-11-12T10:27:13-0600

rjs330 said:
Well of course it would have to include people otherwise who would vote to the candidates? Hey look i didnt say my idea was perfect. It would need some tweeks somehow, but it would stop gerry mandering and make things more even. Maybe something along the lines of a gride and the grids would have to have so many people per square mile based on total population. Just brain storming. Some portions of the grid would be bigger while others would be smaller. If you have 20 representatives then you get 20 grids. And each of those grids have to have the same amount of people in them. Squares or rectangles. Like an excel spread sheet.

Ah I see. I had thought you were suggesting giving each representative equal square miles regardless of population.

There's a lot to consider in devising fair and meaningful districts, I think. Squares seem to divide communities or regions completely arbitrarily. I'd want to see how the current non partisan commissions do it in places like, recently, CA. before concocting my own notions.

stevevw · 2025-11-12T10:12:24-0600

What is wrong with people. This is getting worse.

Michie · 2025-11-12T10:09:06-0600

Can science find God? If God is defined as a being (or perhaps “the ground of being”) that is neither composed of matter nor confined to a spatial location, then the answer seems to be no. After all, science is limited to explaining the natural, physical world. If God exists beyond that world and is not composed of anything found within it, then he seems to be out of the reach of scientific inquiry.

But even if science can’t “find” God in the same way I can find my car in a parking lot, maybe it can indirectly find him. After all, if God affects the physical world, then couldn’t scientific experiments detect those effects and then infer from them that God exists?

One common interaction between God and the universe that believers and nonbelievers think can be tested is prayer—specifically, intercessory prayer for other people. This testing usually takes the form of “prayer studies” that test whether praying for the sick results in more positive health outcomes.

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Prayer, Science, and the Existence of God

Can science find God? If God is defined as a being (or perhaps “the ground of being”) that is neither composed of matter nor confined to a spatial location, the...

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Always in His Presence · 2025-11-12T09:57:12-0600

Akita Suggagaki said:
You misplaced an effect for a cause. The intention, the purpose, the cause was to force Republicans to address healthcare. But Republicans were too obstinate and the shutdown happened. It was Republicans who used it to get what they wanted. And they did.

Obamacare - exclusively Democrats
Oversight of the ACA (because Obama didn't want his name on a failing venture) - Democrats
Addition of Subsidies to help with rising cost of healthcare - Democrats
Dates for the subsidies to end - Democrats
Who didn't address the need all of 2024 - Democrats
Who designed the subsidies to go directly to big pharma? - Democrats
Who designed the subsidies to not lower anyone's deductible, out of pocket or subscription cost - Democrats

Whose fault is all this?

linux.poet · 2025-11-12T09:46:06-0600

Gracious Heavenly Father,
Help Your children to avoid using technology to replace You. Do not Your people have the Holy Spirit, and not machines? Help us to guard marriage in Your strength and power. Guide the leaders over the church to recognize the same.
In Christ’s Name,
Amen

9Rock9 · 2025-11-12T09:35:25-0600

I think both.

The Church is referred to as the Israel of God, and Paul does say that not all who are ethnically Israel are true Israel. Yet, Romans 11 seems to use Israel to refer to ethnic Jews.

I think it's clear in the Bible that the ethnic Jews will eventually be grafted back into the olive tree that is Israel, but I cannot say what that looks like. Will it be a mass revival among them? Will they retain their cultural heritage like the Messianics? Does this have anything to do with the Holy Land? Idk.

I will say that thinking that the modern state of Israel is part of God's divine plan doesn't require you to subscribe to dispensationalism.

Personally, despite my own doubts about dispensationalism, the modern state of Israel is one of those things that keeps me from completely dismissing dispensationalism. Like, was it all just a coincidence?

essentialsaltes · 2025-11-12T09:33:54-0600

In neighboring Texas...

Whooping cough cases skyrocket in Texas, quadrupling last year's numbers

The state has reported more than 3,500 cases this year. This is the second year that Texas has experienced high increases in whooping cough cases.

Nationally, whooping cough cases have been higher in the past two years than levels seen in prior years and pre-pandemic.

The higher numbers of cases in recent years come as vaccination rates [nationally] for whooping cough have steadily dropped

Benaiah468 · 2025-11-12T09:32:38-0600

The Trump team considers its 20-point plan for the Gaza Strip to be the greatest foreign policy achievement of Trump's second term in office to date. It also sees it as a milestone in the expansion of the Abraham Accords, which were a major achievement of Trump's first term. Trump has promised his Republican supporters to keep America out of the ‘endless wars’ in the Middle East – this is also part of Trump's motivation.

Netanyahu also has a strong interest in the ceasefire working. He is aware that it will be difficult for the IDF to mobilise enough willing reservists to resume fighting in Gaza now that the last surviving hostages have been released.

For its part, Hamas is testing its limits with the slow return of dead Israeli hostages and occasional attacks on IDF troops in the Gaza Strip. But Hamas has lost its biggest leverage against Israel after releasing all living hostages, and it knows that the IDF could now act much harder and faster if fighting resumes. Therefore, despite sporadic clashes, the current ceasefire is quite stable.

So is Trump's plan for the Gaza Strip good for Israel?

In the first phase, Israel has control over 53 per cent of the Gaza Strip behind the ‘Yellow Line’, including control of the Rafah border crossing, in order to prevent Hamas from rearming. The IDF also has complete control or a clear line of sight over the entire Salah al-Din motorway, the most important north-south transport artery in the Gaza Strip. It has also been decided that there will be no reconstruction in the Hamas-controlled areas for the time being. Israel has a say in which countries provide troops for the international stabilisation force in Gaza. All these conditions are very advantageous for Israel and were accepted by the Arab parties when they agreed to Trump's plan.

Given that it will probably be extremely difficult and humiliating for Hamas to surrender its weapons, as required for the transition to phase two, the ‘yellow line’ or phase one could prove to be the new status quo in Gaza for the next few years. This is also evident from the fact that Hamas is reluctant to hand over the last bodies of the hostages. Once all the bodies are back, they know that this would mean the end of the first phase and the beginning of the second phase, in which Hamas must be disarmed and its terror tunnels destroyed.

Hamas will certainly cheat, delay and try to survive and regain control of the Gaza Strip. But if that happens, Israel has an agreement approved by the Arab states that legitimises the continued security presence of the IDF in the Gaza Strip.

The success of the Trump plan to rebuild the Gaza Strip will depend on how strong the pressure from the Arab/Muslim world on Hamas remains to disarm and relinquish control of the Gaza Strip. Many of these moderate Sunni Arab rulers are grappling with the problem of radical Islam in their own countries, and it is to be hoped that they will have the wisdom to continue to exert pressure on Hamas.

Chesterton · 2025-11-12T09:29:16-0600

Stopped_lurking said:
I think the car example is somewhat ill-fitting, because the properties of transmissions, axles etc (the constituent parts) do actually help explain why it moves.

Yes, they do explain. I think that's what I said.

Stopped_lurking said:
That from my perspective might be a misuse of the term, it should only be applied when the phenomenon can't be inferred from the constituent parts.

You're exactly right. Free will can't be inferred from constituent parts. In fact, free will is impossible under a deterministic world view. Yet we all know we have free will.

Stopped_lurking said:
But is measurable and understandable when looking at it in the full context. I don't know enough about free will to know the constituent parts. I'll watch the video (I have to admit I haven't) when I get back home from work.

The first part of the video is about the deterministic view, where humans don't have free will. You can skip to about 4:40 if you just want to hear about emergent free will. But pay attention. He says things like "Put many things in one layer together, and they'll create the next layer up. Every time they do, entirely new properties emerge." This is an assertion, it's not an explanation of how. It's neither an explanation nor an argument.

Michie · 2025-11-12T09:25:09-0600

A city in Ohio has reversed course and decided to allow a local resident to display a live Nativity scene at a winter farmers market on public property.

Susan Conley had asked to include the Christmas display at a farmers market scheduled to be held next month at the city of Pataskala’s Veterans Green Park.

Although officials had initially rejected the request to display a Nativity scene, Pataskala officials later reversed their decision following a complaint letter from attorneys with Jones Day and First Liberty Institute (FLI).

FLI Senior Counsel Nate Kellum said in a statement shared with The Christian Post on Tuesday that the city should never have refused to allow the live Nativity in the first place.

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Ohio city to allow live Nativity scene at farmers market after initial rejection

A city in Ohio has reversed course and will allow a local woman to display a live nativity scene at a winter farmers market on public property

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Michie · 2025-11-12T09:22:09-0600

Editor's Note: This article contains descriptions of child sexual exploitation and child sex abuse that some readers will find disturbing.

The first openly trans-identifying lawmaker in the nation has pleaded guilty in a case that involved his former partner sending him sexually explicit photos of children at a daycare where she worked, with some of the images involving children as young as 3.

Stacie-Marie Laughton, whose real name is Barry Laughton, is a 41-year-old man who identifies as female. Laughton pleaded guilty in a federal courtroom in Boston to charges that included child sexual exploitation and possessing child sex abuse materials, ABC News affiliate WMUR9 reported.

The trans-identifying lawmaker, who previously served in the New HampshireHouse of Representatives from 2020 to 2022, faces the possibility of 30 years in prison, according to NH Journal. Laughton and his former partner, Lindsay Groves, are scheduled to be sentenced in February 2026.

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Trans-identified ex-state lawmaker facing 30 years in prison for child porn possession

The first openly trans-identifying lawmaker in the nation has pleaded guilty to charges of child porn possession

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durangodawood · 2025-11-12T09:18:55-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Competitive eating?

I think a line gets crossed in competitive eating where you have to engage a lot of self control, if you want to win.

The Barbarian · 2025-11-12T09:17:37-0600

Delvianna said:
Because it makes it the law of the land. It's like if a panel of judges ruled on allowing people to just murder who ever they want, because the judges are part ruling the country, the nation will be judged when murder sky rockets.

I'm trying to figure out how allowing couples to marry each other will harm the rest of us. I don't recall Jesus declaring that government control was the answer to sin. If He didn't think it was worth mentioning, why should be think it's how a nation will be judged?

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