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A sexTON is someone who has a certain job in a church.
Do you have a link? This was the closest I could find What Americans really think about political violence | YouGov but it doesn't really say that.A YouGov poll indicates that a portion of individuals with progressive viewpoints publicly expressed condolences for Kirk, while privately exhibiting a different stance.
Jews, or church is Israel.Consider the verse below when thinking about the modern nation of Israel.
Isaiah 54:9 To me this is like the days of Noah, when I swore that the waters of Noah would never again cover the earth. So now I have sworn not to be angry with you, never to rebuke you again.
The Apostle Paul declares the obvious in Galatians 4:26-27. That Isaiah 54 is a prophecy about the New Jerusalem. The context of that chapter is Old Testament believer’s being illustrated as the wife of God suffering at the hands of their own wicked kings and the gentile nations; someday winning the nations by the gospel and through that inheriting the world. This is why Paul called the New Jerusalem the mother of all New Testament believers. OT saints in Ancient Israel gave birth to NT saints, both Jew and Gentile.
Here is how Isaiah 54:9 ties into the debate over the two extremes between those who teach the name Israel IS ONLY referring to the Jews and modern Israel and God's covenant with them. Verses those who say Israel is now the church and God's NT covenant. In both the OT and NT we see God is almost continuously angry with Ancient Israel for its sin. The reason for this is God chose both the saints and sinners out of one nation, Ancient Israel, to bring his word and the Messiah into the earth. It was his Normandy beach head for his long-planned invasion of planet earth to spread the influence of his invisible kingdom.
Once the mission God chose all of Ancient Israel for was complete. His focus became the expansion of that influence worldwide. First through Jewish believers that naturally added Gentile believers to that mix. This new mix of believers, illustrated in the Bible’s prophecy was given a new name- The New Jerusalem
Isaiah 62;1 For Zion’s sake I will not keep silent, for Jerusalem’s sake I will not remain quiet, till her vindication shines out like the dawn, her salvation like a blazing torch. 2 The nations will see your vindication, and all kings your glory; YOU WILL BE CALLED BY A NEW NAME that the mouth of the Lord will bestow.
That is why God would no longer be angry with his people. They are no longer a mix of ethnic Israeli's who had the faith of Abraham along with the ethnic Israeli's who refused that faith. Instead, his people, illustratively spoken of as God’s bride and the New Jerusalem consist of a mix of ethnic Israelis and gentiles who have embraced the faith of Abraham- in and of the Messiah.
Speaking to both extremes about this issue. This IS the Bible’s OT and NT doctrine on the matter. God will not smile upon anything else that is taught.
Does this mean ethnic Israelis, or Jews, who do not have or refuse the faith of Abraham are no longer God’s chosen people? That would depend on narrative you look at Bible's prophecy through. Which by the way is the main point of friction between the two extremes. One extreme says yes because there is end of the world prophecy in the Bible that revolves around a modern nation of Israel. One says no because only believers count as the children of Abraham by faith so the modern nation is an aberration not mentioned in scripture.
But what says the scripture? Well, according to many chapters of prophecy like Isaiah 54, 60, 61, 62, 65 Rev 20-22. Daniel 2 & 7 They say billions would come to Christ after the Roman Empire ends which happened in 1453 AD; and the natural result of that would be a world transforming for the better. We now know this was due to the general public, (illegally) beginning to gain access to their own Bibles to read themselves right when that empire ended. This is what the Bible means when it said the meek, or the saints, shall inherit the earth. It's why we went from the perpetual rule of kings and emperors to a growing free world of republics as it states in the passage below.
Isaiah 29:18-20 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness. The meek also shall increase their joy in the LORD, and the poor among men shall rejoice in the Holy One of Israel. For the tyrannical oppressor is brought to nothing…….
Now we have the key to understanding why modern Israel exists. The process of meek inheriting the earth would providentially lead to the world having mercy on the Jewish people and bringing them back to the land promised to Abraham. NOT for some end of the world apocalypse. But rather as part of the process of the meek inheriting the earth. As stated in the prophecy below. The regions future is 10’s of millions of Jews, Arabs, Egyptians and Syrians finding the faith of Abraham in Jesus their savior. The natural result of theirs and the Bible’s influence will be the transformation of the region. It's how the prophecy below is being fulfilled. All the war, death and destruction is Satan’s doings through darkened hearts to try to stop this from happening. Over the long run, it is not going to work.
Isaiah 19: 23-25 In that day shall there be a highway out of Egypt to Assyria, and the Assyrian shall come into Egypt, and the Egyptian into Assyria, and the Egyptians shall serve with the Assyrians. In that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and with Assyria, even a blessing in the midst of the land: whom the LORD of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance.
Good news is it not? Peace on earth, good will towards men news.
The President is the Head of the Government of the United States of America, not the Daddy for the States.Yes this is what happens when you have and support sanctuary cities. When you allow illegals in there are bad illegals that come too. Then you have to sort them out. Which takes time during an operation like this.
People in Chicago VOTED and choose to be a sanctuary city. You have to accept the consequences of such actions.
Not true.
EVERY reference to Paul in a worship service on Sabbath is a reference to the 7th day Sabbath of Gen 2:2,3 and Ex 20;11
This is irrefutable.
If Paul did so he was affirming that they were ten commandments *under the Law of Moses.*Paul repeatedly affirms the unit of TEN as God's Commandments
Sorry, it doesn't have to spelled out that Jesus was speaking of Jews. Obviously, he was speaking to Jews and knew that the Sabbath Law had only been given to the Jews.No text says that.
Mark 2:27 says it is for "mankind" not 'just Jews"
James was using OT Law as an example of how *any sin* keeps Mankind from obtaining Eternal Life by his own works. That was the lesson of the Fall in the garden of Eden. A single sin contaminated Adam and Eve, and got them kicked out of the garden and away from the Tree of Life.It is :"still a sin to take God's name in vain"
James to "he who is guilty of breaking one is guilty of breaking all?
We are told in Jer 31.32 that the New Covenant will be for Israel something different from the Commandments and Laws given at Horeb.God's commandments are part of the Jer 31:31-34 New Covenant as Heb 8 reminds us.
I've read it and explained it. OT language was used in the OT period in order not to discourage continued respect for the Law. But Sabbath to Sabbath simply means Week to Week.Until you read Isaiah 66;23
I don't know when you will begin to understand that Jesus spoke, during his earthly ministry, to Israel while they were *still under the Law.* The veil had not yet been rent. The New Covenant had not yet been sealed in Jesus' blood. Therefore, the Law of Moses was still in play, and Jesus indicated that every requirement was needed to show every aspect of what Messiah would do.Jesus condemned anyone teaching against God's Law in Matt 5
Just wait until it’s gilt!UG-Lee
I see you skipped talking about how much huge money the $8,000,000,000,000 Green Industry, and the DNC, has to gain from Climate Change Panic. That the Green Industry made an extra $2,000,000,000,000 in 2024 and has given millions in political donations.Not when those hottest places have measurements going back to 1910.
Yes - as if this is news to any actual scientist - let alone climate scientist. Or any humanities geek like myself who has read a bit. Do you know WHY the climate changes? What the top drivers are? What causes a glacial period and interglacial period over tens of thousands of years - or what about LONGER term climate trends over the 10's of millions of years?
Like I said - I'm not even a scientist. But even I know some of these things.
A couple of degrees hotter? Maybe you're thinking of weather.
A couple of degrees of CLIMATE change should scare you - should make you angry - should make you think of the inter-generational immorality of us living as if we allowed to squander our children and grandchildren's futures!
Didn't Calvin himself say the farmer should leave his fields in better condition than he found them? He had basic ideas of stewardship in mind.
Maybe you don't understand the difference between weather and climate?
Think of water in a bathtub. Weather is the toddler splashing and making waves. The amount of water stays the same, but the waves rock back and forth with the water level. Climate change is that someone left the tap on, and soon that toddler could drown!
Climate change is the energy imbalance of the planet - the extra energy 'trapped' by the sunlight bouncing off the earth's surface as heat, and being trapped by the thicker blanket of gases surrounding the earth.
It's going up about to 2 Hiroshima bombs per second, every second, of every minute, of every hour, of every day, of every day of the year. All year around. It shows up in glaciers melting, heat records toppling, seasons out of whack, grubs hatching and dying before the baby birds hatch so they can eat the grubs. It's the very food web is out of whack.
It's global crop yields down a quarter as the population goes UP a quarter by 2050.
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And Exxon knew about it all from their own scientists way back in 1977.
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In 1982 they sent a document marked “not to be distributed externally.”
“Preventing global warming … would require major reductions in fossil fuel combustion. Unless that happened, there are some potentially catastrophic events that must be considered … Once the effects are measurable, they might not be reversible.”
Exxon CO2 Primer (1982) - Inside Climate News
This document describes the state of the science on the greenhouse effect was widely circulated among Exxon management.insideclimatenews.org
It seems sir - that you have a lot more reading and thinking to do.
Unless of course, like most MAGA you just think "That's what you CHOOSE to believe - I choose to believe something else."
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The Hatch Act hasn’t been enforced since at least when the White House was the backdrop to a Goya beans “commercial”.Is she unaware of The Hatch Act as well?
The idea though as I understand it is not having assurance of salvation is what is taught. With 1 Corinthians 9:27 being the primary verse. During a ‘once saved, always saved’ debate on CF, I asked a Catholic on CF if he believed he was saved and he said "I don't know".We don’t do the ‘once saved, always saved’ stuff.
How dare members of the fourth estate not kowtow to the Secretary of War!?
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New York Times, AP, Newsmax among news outlets who say they won't sign new Pentagon rules
The New York Times, The Associated Press and the conservative television network Newsmax are among five outlets on Monday who say they won't sign a new Defense Department document about its new press rules.apnews.com
Sounds like this Hegseth directive is being broadly rejected by media outlets, big & small, and across the political spectrum.
All of the big ones are in broad agreement (ABC, NBC, CBS, and Fox News), and even the very "MAGA-friendly" Newsmax is opposing it as well.
Not one well provenanced vase in the bunch. Many measured runouts in excess of 0.1 mm. No procedure described to calculate any quality metrics.The Chris Dunn's team has done a Report which is another form of an academic paper with Overview, method, then analysis, findings and conclusion.
Where the author believes it to be a modern fake or reworked original.Also here with the geometry which is fully laid out in steps with calculations.
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Geometric Analysis of The Pre-Dynastic Granite Artifact
An interesting geometrical analysis of an extremely precise and high-resolution mesh, obtained via structured light scanning of a granite artifact, that is purpoted to originate from pre-dynastic Egypt.unsigned.io
And in their table all but two vases have a median circularity > 0.1 mm (they are 72 and 96 µm). And median doesn't tell the complete story. Look in the surface deviation plots for all the vases (https://3ee9be00-b8a0-4f00-991d-97c...d/3ee9be_e79661f238934aed91a28269a61725d8.pdf) not the cherry picked best example.The Artifact Foundation also done a Report.
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Petrie Museum | Artifact Foundation
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It's not he uses the the geometric mean of the median circularity and concentricity, Max sums the mean error rmse and concentricity offset and standard deviation of the concentricity offset. Just as you were wrong when you falsely ascribed a PhD to Karoly.I think they all explain why they used the specific quality metric. I think Karolys method is the same.
If you're going to find the symmetry axis of the hypothalamus then you need to use PCA to determine the best symmetry axis, on what is in effect cylindrical objects it is not needed. Max didn't feel the need in any case.Certainly in using layers to determine circularity and concentricity. I think the method had to be adjusted to measure the vases as there was no precedent to go by.
0.2 mm as a median score is not the normal tolerance metric such as it would be if it is the difference in radius between the an inner and outer circle that covers all the measured points (see ISO 1101). So there is some sleight-of-hand with definitions going on here.Providence seems to be an issue in the least because skeptics use that to dispute the vases. The Artifact Foundation began testing museum vases only this year.
There are Petrie vases in the precise class from the Artifact Foundations tests. They set the parameters of the precise class which was 0.001mm to I think 0.200mm which was the tolerance accepted in precision tooling. Five or 6 vases from memory came under this. One at 48 microns median score.
Those were not from the Petrie museum collection.Max was testing vases that were from a private collections (Matt Beall) but also housed at the Petrie museum. Thats why I was saying that people can question the providence of private collections but the Petrie museum regards them as genuine enough to display them as authentic. Max also found around 11 vases in the precise class.
Measures themselves are not science, they speculating on the skills of egyptian artisans is not science.There are no other researchers or tests as far as I know. Like I said there are many small tests of one off vases. You can even see a guage test done on line before your eyes showing the precision.
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I disagree. Karoly and the Artifact Foundation, Chris Dunn and team and Max are all doing science. The equipment they have used, the calibration of that equipment, the various methods of testing ie Light Scan, Lazer and Guage sensors and the reports coming from them are science. Theres no spectulation. This is hard data and not spectulations about peoples credibility.
I don't need to do anything other than tell them that until they publish their results in peer-reviewed journals all they are doing is conjecture.No sure if you have used all these devices or even understand them. Or actually done tests on vases. Your standing on the sidelines. If you want to dispute the tests then you have to repeat the tests and show how you done it to arrive at a different finding.
An object measuring 5 cm is not science.Peer review does not make it science. You don't need peer review to confirm that an object measures 5 cm on a ruler. Do you think you need some professor in a tower confirming that the guage measure above is correct. You can get a set of guage sensors and see for yourself. No better evidence.
According to Max they didn't cluster with the precise vases.WE have good providence vases showing precision. This whole thread has become about knocking down logical fallacy. You know very well that vases from Petrie museum tested precise.
Independent but with overlap in participants.They have been measured in various ways 50 times over. They have been measured properly. And even if we go with the exaggerated slight deviations in some places on the vase. We are talking 2 or 3 thinness of paper. Other parts within a hair thinness. This level of precision has to have been made by a pretty sophisticated lathe. It was not by sticks, flint, chisels and pounders.
We have 3 independent tests and they use the same and different methods. The light scanning is a matter of levels of accuracy. The Artifact group mentions results from the OG vase guage method and that the light scans confirmed and tightened the accuracy. Each method is showing the precision in various ways. None are contradicting each other.
The trouble is OLga cheated. She actually used the wheel (like a lathe) to get the better precision and only proving that tech is needed to achieve such precision lol.
Metrology is a science in itself, people do science in the field of metrology. If you say some is doing the science of metrology your saying something more than they know how to take a measure. So yes, to be good in the science of metrology you actually need to publish is metrology journals.I don't know what you mean. I am saying as part of being a precision machinist in making parts you have to be able to know the metrology to ensure the parts are precise lol. Its just a given. You don't need an article to prove that.
Taking measures by it self is not the science of metrology.If they studied precision tooling and did not teach the science of measuring those precision tools and parts then thats pretty silly.
If they publish in metrology journals they go over the equipment and methods in excruciating detail.Most papers don't go into proving the scientists have the equipment or whether they can use them. They just state the equipment, the calibration and the method and findings. Your placing criteria in a paper that is not expected and therefore being bias.
He has two peer-reviewed articles, neither of which is in any adjacent field to geomtrical light scanning.If you want to know the specific scientists ability you research the scientist seperately. If you do that you will find he has vast experience and knowledge in metrology. He measures stull all the time even down to the micro level.
Yes, but it is not related to geometry scanning of vases.Max does Gamma Spectroscopy, Neutron Detection, Alpha Dection which all require an understanding of metrology. Even more complex than simple vase measures.
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Neutron Detection – Maximus Energy
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That depends on how obviously wrong they are, flat earthers are wackos even if they happen to be scientistst.I think you will find they are arguing their opinion is the final word lol. When they call the very testers they are disagreeing with whackpos and amateurs this is not about any fair process. They have it in for them because of an ideological belief and not science. You don't call those who scientists disagree with whackos lol.
No need since they don't seem to want to publish in peer-reviewed journals.Like you said you keep quiet about that and just do the science. Prove it with the actual science. That means doing exactly what the testers did. Redo the tests in the proper way they claim and see what findings they get.
Yes, and it has been a problem since the advent of modern scientific practices.Well we sort of do know the providence. If the Petrie museum thinks they are genuine enough to house them as examples of Egyptian predyanstic vases then thats pretty good support. Many artifacts in museums come from private collectors on loan. .
Then we will have to live in forever suspense, not speculating on unknown technology X.Lol so if they don't find the tool or device what then.
So what are the pairwise likelihood ratios or Bayes factors for using unknown method X vs "ortohodox measures" vs "ortohodox measures" + turntable vs modern fakery?That this must mean no advanced method was used. Of course not. NOt finding the method does not negate the method. The method is determined by the signatures. A certain level of precision in symmetry and roundness is commonly associated with lathing. If we don't find a lathe does that mean it was not created by a lathe.
Then we will probably never guess it correctly either, what's the problem?The problem is we don't find much of any tools and methods fullstop. Even the basic tools. Metals like copper or bronze were reused as it was precisious and useful. BUt if they had some other way we don't understand we would not even know what to look for.
Yes for specific examples you have to do a thorough investigation into not just the science but also like you said the cultural aspects, the archeology, social and religious aspects. All aspects to understand the culture and their practices and how this relates to the worls they produce.
Yes, every single example you say is a product of an megalithic culture needs to be investigated and placed by the best researchers in that field as an megalithic culture work.But like cultural practice and phenomena we can step back and make some general observations. We can say for example that at a certain point in pre history the world was full of Megalithic cultures as we see the massive works. We don't need to prove every single example.
Sitting at home guessing is all good, trying to convince others in the field requires more that that (let's start with peer-review).We can make hypothesis about the level of knowledge they had at that time which stands out above other periods.
No one is stopping them.Even just investigating the out of place works is enough to warrant further investigation and being open to some sort of alternative knowledge that appears beyond that time. Thats why I think those who immediate cry whacko and conspiracy are actually the non scientist. Because science is full of out of place and contradictory ideas that move it forward. Shutting it down immediate is anti scientific and more a belief.
Very good, is a very subjective term.I have noticed that some are highlighting the less precise specific examples and trying to make out this is the entire vase and therefore not CNC machines. Or exaggerating that less precision when its actually still very good.
They could just publish it a peer-reviewed journal, you know.Thats why I say I think a formal and complete retesting is required to properly refute the researchers. All this bits and pieces of complaints on social media are too hard to control and ensure proper methods themselves.
Your opinion is noted, I don't share it.But at the same time I am reducing things to the basics and saying ok lets forget about all the semantics about a few so called imprecise examples. As there are many more precise ones. But forget about all that and the basic idea of whether they had a lathe at all. Or made these by chisels, pounders and rubbing. I think we can say the metrology is precise enough to say a lathe was involved. Its just a case of how sophsiticated.
They could just publish it a peer-reviewed journal, you know.Yes the providence again. Thats fair enough. So other vases like the OG have tested precise from the Petrie museum. One I think even more precise than the OG vase. Which sort of lends support for the OG as its not just a one off anymore.
But the problem is like all of us when you challenge the tests your not just making a personal opinion. It has to be qualified. It seems everyone in going crazy about the qualifications of every little thing said by these researchers. But no scrutiny on the people who are questioning their credibility.
I said something about me.You need to support what you said because its actually challenging the testers. In the first example your disputing a measure. But you have provided no support. This is undermining the testers measures. You need to do tests and show how their measures are not reflecting the 3D dimensions of the vase.
They could just publish it a peer-reviewed journal, you know.The second one is more a general claim that the formal tests that have been officially published and laid out in academic format are the same as a few sentences on a social media platform. Your word just can't be the evidence. I disagreed and gave the arguement why ie done in academic format, did the tests and explained the steps to get to that specific measures.
They could just publish it a peer-reviewed journal, you know.They are clearly two different formats. You have not provided any evidence for how they are the same. Just your personal opinion.
That wasn't close to my admittedly badly written objection. Why dont they just use the normal ISO 1101 measure of circularity or roundness?Ok well thats a better response. But I think its still out of context. As far as I understand they have done the 3D measure for circularity and concentricity. They even state this. They aim was to prove the precision in the physical 3D vase. Why would they not do this. Are they lying.
There's no bigger picture if the constituent parts haven't been criticized and published.
- Structured light scanning:
This process uses structured light to capture the surface of the vases, creating precise 3D models with high resolution (better than a thousandth of an inch).
Like I said I am only trying to apply the same criteria of what is being applied to these tests and researchers. Like proper science if a test or claim is being disputed then they should redo the tests and show how this was wrong. Not pick out bits out of context which misrepresents things.
But with all this fixation on a specific example of a specific example is taking away from the bigger picture.
People are free to be irrational.There seems to have been some kind of fad that was popular with the military. I just do not understand how this qualifies as current events. We might as well be talking about Sarah Palin hunting wolves from a helicopter.
“Flight crews carry lucky-charms” too on-point?Back in 2013, a U.S. Air Force unit training to fly America’s most advanced military aircraft wore a patch inspired by the television show My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.
The Air Force confirmed it: bronies were flying jets.
“We train world-class pilots who will go on to defend our great nation,” said 1st Lt. Tom Barger, a public affairs officer at Vance Air Force Base in Oklahoma. “Fostering camaraderie, morale and unity on a regular basis and through small means—like a tastefully humorous patch—enhances our ability to complete the mission when working as a team is essential.”
The pink and purple patch—first spotted by My Little Pony fan site Equestria Daily—and worn by 24 flight students from Joint Undergraduate Specialized Pilot Class 14-05, referenced the cable cartoon show about a team of magical ponies.
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Yooooo, this is just too awesome.As a brony myself I'm happy to see this happened.
And it helps combat stereotypes and shows cartoons aren't just for kids and can be enjoyed by anybody.
I predict that in 30 years the large majority of Americans will look back on the Trump years with great admiration.
In other words...you can't think of an act without any context whereby we can determine the morality of said act. Can you agree with that, please? Then we'd be done.I am disagreeing with the analogy and methodlogy in the first place that you are using to determine morality. So why would I play along lol. It will not prove anything about whether there is actually absolute or objective morals.
The logic and reasoning are self defeating and incoherent as the basis for morality. In fact dangerous.
The constitution does not define rebellion as only trying to take over the government as you defined it. Other forms of rebellion against rhe government can apply. And in this case that is what is happening.it does not mean that the situation meets the standard of "rebellion" under the Constitution.
Yes it is. Ive seen the videos.Which is not happening.
These rebellions in these area are organized and often paid for. Of course not every person there is part it, but they dont have to be in order for it to work. Its happening in Portland and Chicago.Again, rebellions are inherently organized and seek to overthrow the authority of the government. That is not happening anywhere in the US today.
Yes it is. We've even had posters on this forum admit it and were proud of it.The reality is that this is not actually happening though.
Thats not the definition of obstruction.Temporarily being obstructed does not prevent them from doing their jobs in the bigger picture of things.
You dont have to have city or state governments to be involved. Thats not a requirement of the law. Having citizens involved is enough.If, for example, the local police or national guard had been instructed by city leadership or the governor to stop ICE from doing their jobs, then you might have a point - that would be very similar to the conditions under which Eisenhower federalized the Arkansas Guard. But a few citizens getting in the way of their own volition are in no way comparable.
I'm not sure there'll be much room. I think we need a bigger award.How about the hostages who were saved?
I wonder why?