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essentialsaltes · 2025-11-11T22:15:23-0600

Fox News: Venezuela mobilizes troops, weapons in response to US warship buildup in Caribbean

Venezuela has deployed military units and began amassing weapons and equipment in response to the Trump administration's mobilization of U.S. warships in the Caribbean.

essentialsaltes · 2025-11-11T22:12:16-0600

Trump Says US ‘Lacks Talent' For Critical Jobs, Defends H-1B Visa For Foreign Workers

US President Donald Trump defended the H-1B visa programme, saying the United States “doesn’t have the talent" needed to fill critical jobs domestically. In an interview with Fox News, Donald Trump was asked if his administration planned to cut back on H-1B visas amid concerns that the programme depresses wages for American workers.

“I agree- but you also do have to bring in talent," Donald Trump said, rejecting the notion that the US already has enough skilled people.

When host Laura Ingraham countered, “We have plenty of talented people here," Donald Trump interjected, “No, you don’t, no you don’t … You don’t have certain talents, and people have to learn. You can’t take people off an unemployment line and say, ‘I’m going to put you into a factory where we’re going to make missiles.’"

GodAndChocolateVanilla · 2025-11-11T22:10:49-0600

It’s good to love yourself enough to want to be treated good and to be loved.

My Ex thinks he is better than me.

Dan Perez · 2025-11-11T22:00:48-0600

BelieveItOarKnot said:
What don't you accept from Luke???

It may surprise you that there are several dozen various ways to be saved including Romans 10:9-10 and giving a cup of water salvation.

Kinda cool loosening the nooses of the tunnel vision crowd

And give. the verses and you says that there are SEVERAL DOZENS ways to be SAVED , so lets see dozens of ways

Paul. says we can be SAVED !!

MAYBE DOZENS OF WAYS to be SAVED under THE OLD COVENANT ??

Maybe DOZENS of ways under the NEW COVENMAT ??

And I know. that there are NOT DOZENS of Ways , so just ONE WAY for EACH WILL DO. !!

Will show where BORN OF GOD IN JOHN 3:5 FITS. IN ??

And where John 3:3. fits in. !!

dan p

FreeinChrist · 2025-11-11T21:56:53-0600

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RabbiJames · 2025-11-11T21:55:46-0600

2 KINGS 4:1-37

Here, Elisha Ha Navi (the Prophet) ministers to a Shunamite woman, as some prophets had a public ministry, Elisha had more of a private ministry, ministering to individuals more than to the general public as a whole. Yeshua did both; he ministered to the sick, the hurting, and the poor, and also preached to the public in synagogues.

The first case involves a Shunamite woman whose husband (now dead) was one of the “B’nei HaNeviim” (sons of the Prophets). It wasn’t that he was a biological son of one of the prophets, but a Torah student of the “School of the Prophets”. Today we have Bible institutes, back then, you had the “schools of the prophets.” The prophets who were called by G-d instructed those interested in learning the Words of God written in the Torah, from Adam and Eve up to those present times. Guess you could say kind of “history classes” and lessons to be learned from those “histories”.

The Shunamite woman tells or “cries out” (Tza-a-kah) to Elisha and tells him her problem. The Hebrew word “Tza-a-kah” denotes a “cry for legal assistance” similar to “Tzedakah’ (charity). Her husband owed money to a creditor, now dead; the debt was not cancelled, it was still effective. In those days, if one could not pay a debt, a son or daughter could be taken as a slave or servant and “work off the debt.” So, Elisha tests the woman’s faith with the following words;

“What can I do for you? What do you have in the house?”

In this case, the Shunamite woman needed a financial miracle. She had only one pot of olive oil. The woman asked for pots from her neighbors, then received the oil in abundance. Many times, when we look for miracles, we extend a blessing to another, and then, we receive from God; it just works that way at times. In the case of the Shunamite woman, just a little bit of olive oil in a pot went a long way.

We can look at this in another way from the derashic level. We are all “Vessels” or “pots” in the service of Adonai. The oil can symbolize the Holy Spirit. We can ask for more oil, and more oil will be given. We work together to further the Kingdom of God, we are like many vessels with oil, all working the further the Kingdom through our diverse spiritual gifts. When we work together, miracles can happen, healings take place, debts get paid, all through the power of Adonai; we are just “his faithful vessels with oil.”

The other case involved another woman and her husband from the same place, called Shunem. The husband and wife offered Elisha a meal and a place to stay when he visited. That was a great mitzvah. The couple was blessed with a child. One blessing often brings on another. Yet the child perhaps had a heat stroke and died. Because scripture says that the boy went out to the field and cried out, “My head, my head.”

Elisha and his servant are called, and they come to the family’s aid. Elisha places his staff on the boy’s face, then he places his own body on the boy’s body, and the boy is resurrected. We might ask why that procedure? What is the meaning of the staff on the face? The body of the prophet on top of the body of the dead boy? One can only guess. One thing is that a “Staff” (Mateh) symbolizes authority. The face is part of the head, and it was in the head that the ailment occurred, be it a heat-stroke or cerebral hemorrhage, or a blood clot.

Elisha represented Adonai, so it was like Adonai bringing the boy back to life, but in the body of Elisha. Did not Peter and Paul do the same thing? They brought the dead back to life as well. When Elisha’s body was spread out on top of the boy’s, it could also symbolize our Messiah Yeshua’s spread out body on Calvary’s cross. His death meant our lives. In this case, Elisha perhaps “Breathed” into the boy’s mouth since his mouth was on the boy’s mouth, his eyes on the boy’s eyes.

As Elohim “breathed the breath of life” (Neshmat chayiim) into the body of Adam, the Shunamite’s son was also “filled with life again” The son sneezed “seven times.” “7” is the perfect number.

MATT 6:1-7:29

The Talmid Matityahu (Matthew) writes about different themes. One of the themes is that of prayer: “DO not pray/repeat vain repetitions.” We often wonder what this means.

Many people memorize prayers and “recite them” over and over again. It becomes routine, and the danger in this is that one can pray “like a machine” and really not understand or meditate on the meaning of the prayer itself. Then, the prayer becomes just plain words. A parrot can learn to speak, repeat things, but it doesn’t understand what it is saying. Are we like parrots or souls created in the image of Elohim?

In Judaism, many prayers are part of the prayer books. It isn’t bad to learn them and repeat them, only “understand” what the words mean and how they relate to our God. Then, when we pray the morning and evening prayers, we can meditate on what these words are really saying, so that they do not become just “vain repetitions”.

Here we have the LORD’s prayer. It is not meant to be something we just memorize and repeat like we do many times with prayers. This prayer is something to meditate on, and let the meaning penetrate our souls.

“Aveinu BaShamayim” “Our father who is in the heavens” Who has the right to call God, “Our Father” but only those who are members of his family. All of humanity is God’s “creation,” and he is humanity’s “creator,” but only to born-again believers, he is “Father.”

“Kadosh Shmo” (sanctified be his name) HIS name is YHVH (Yod, Hey, Vav, Hey), which comes from HAVAYA (to exist) he is “Haya” (past) “Hoveh” (present), and “Yiyah” (future). And his name is indeed “Kadosh” (Holy). Contrary to popular belief, the Torah does not prohibit one from using it; on the contrary, the Word of God says, “Call upon the NAME of the LORD!”

“Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.” The “kingdom of Heaven” is HIS activity on earth, so it is already here. It has been here since Genesis 1:1. It is here and manifests itself in the midst of his believers, churches, synagogues, congregations, bible study groups, etc. There is a “coming” political kingdom and a literal “New Jerusalem” which will appear on earth someday in the future, and what a time that will be.

“Give our bread continually”. Our “daily bread” does not consist only of literal food, but ALL of our basic needs. YHVH is a loving God and many times gives us even our “wants”. He will do this “continually”, I have seen this many times in my life, when I just “think” of things I need, all of a sudden, I get them, many times for free.

“Forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us.” Many times, we commit sins against God, and yes, we want Him to forgive us, but what about people who have committed offenses against us? Are we holding grudges against them? If so, how then can we expect forgiveness for our sins? Our sins against our Holy God are greater. We must learn to forgive those around us. At times, it is hard, but it is a “command!” When it can’t come from the flesh, it must come from the spirit.

“Do not lead us into the power of temptation, but keep us from all evil…amen.” What is the “power” of temptation? It is succumbing to the power of HaSatan. Remember that just because we are “b’nei Melech” (children of the King) does not mean that we are free from being tempted. Everyone on this earth has been tempted, even our LORD and Messiah. This is part of testing; we can be tempted, but that does not mean that we will give in to the temptation and commit sin. It is OUR choice, the very last word is “Amen” which comes from “Amun” which is “to say something true” so, when we say “amen” it is “so be it, as it is truth from God” (this was taken from a Primitive Hebrew text, as the first “LORD’s prayer was written in Hebrew) there is also an Aramaic rendition of the LORD’s prayer, look it up on “YouTube”

2 PETER 2:4-11

Kefa (Peter) reminds the reader that just as we serve a God of love and forgiveness, the same God, Adonai-Elohim-Yeshuah, is a God of wrath and vengeance, a jealous God. A God who punishes the unrepentant wicked. He gives the examples of the fallen angels who went into human women, thus causing mutant genetic offspring and “Giants.” They are in hell today, as all the wicked souls that did not repent.

We all like to listen to messages involving God’s love, but do not care to listen to the “hell, fire, and brimstone” messages. Such a message was preached on July 7th, 1741, by Jonathan Edwards, and thus brought revival to New England.

Our Heavenly Father is a Father of love, and reaches out to all who will listen, but by no means is an “arm-twister.” He will not force anyone to come to Him. We can accept or reject; the choice is ours.

keras · 2025-11-11T21:54:54-0600

Douggg said:
The spritual Israelites of God (faithful Christian believers) have been blinded until the fullness of the Gentiles (non-Jews) has been completed ?

Plainly; it is the Jews who are blinded.
Also plainly: the Jews are mostly gone after the Lords Day of wrath:

Jeremiah 12:14-16 These are the Words of the Lord: I am against all those evil neighbours who have encroached onto the Land that My Israelite people will inherit. Take note; I will pluck them out from where they are now and also I will pluck out the House of Judah as well. After I have removed them, I will return to have compassion on them, bringing them back to their heritage, if they will diligently learn the Way of My people, to only swear by My Name: the Living God. But if they refuse, then I will completely remove and destroy them.

This Bible passage is extremely informative, it gives the Lord’s plans for three groups of people: -

1/ The evil neighbours; The Islamic nations and entities surrounding Israel. Soon to be cleared out of the entire Middle East region by the terrible Day of the Lord’s wrath by fire from the sun. Psalms 83:1-18, Isaiah 30:25-30, Amos 1:1-11, 2:1-5, Revelation 6:12-17

2/ The House of Judah, the Jewish people, currently inhabiting a part of the holy Land. The same fate as the neighbours, but a remnant will be saved. Isaiah 6:11-13, Zechariah 13:8-9, Romans 9:27

3/ My people; the true Israelites- Overcomers for God, every Christian believer; individuals from every tribe, race, nation and language. Followers of the right Way, Jesus: John 14:6, Revelation 5:9-10, 1 Peter 2:9-10

The story described here, is clear and concise: The Lord is about to solve all the Middle East problems, to a similar degree as how He reset civilization in Noah’s time. All the holy land will be depopulated, Zephaniah 14-18, Hosea 4:3, Jeremiah 10:18, excepting a small remnant of Messianic Jews who will shelter in bunkers in Jerusalem. Isaiah 29:1-4, Romans 9:27

This will allow the gathering and settling of His righteous Christian people into their heritage where they will, at last be the people He always wanted there; a people who will be His witnesses and display His Light to the nations. Isaiah 43:10, John 15:27, Isaiah 49:8, Matthew 5:14-16

essentialsaltes · 2025-11-11T21:52:01-0600

Justice Department says "violent riot" under investigation by FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force in the face of the enormity of three arrests and one injury. UC Berkeley acknowledges "There is no place at UC Berkeley for attempts to use violence or intimidation to prevent lawful expression or chill free speech"

According to a statement from the Berkeley Police Department, two men were arrested on suspicion of fighting in public. One of those individuals was released after officers determined that a 25-year-old man had stolen his chain and he was attempting to get it back.

Two other individuals were arrested by campus police for failing to comply with directions, a university spokesman said.

One 45-year-old man attending the event was hit by a glass bottle and transported to the hospital.

Tom D · 2025-11-11T21:49:54-0600

LoricaLady · 2025-11-11T21:44:53-0600

Deacon Jang, a Christian who worked on the border of China and North Korea, has been released from prison after 11 years.

Jang was kidnapped from China in November 2014 and sentenced to 15 years in a North Korean prison. He had been ministering to North Koreans who crossed the border into China and had seen a number of them come to faith in Christ.

Jang had been working in the town of Changbai, alongside fellow Korean-Chinese pastor, Han Chung-Ryeol. Although it is illegal to cross into China without permission, North Koreans often visit border towns to buy goods, or medicine.

Jang had regularly provided hospitality for those doing so and discipled those who came to faith, teaching them how to share the gospel with loved ones when they returned home. Release International’s partner for Korea said, ‘We believe the reason for his kidnapping was to gather information about the North Korean ministry work we were doing with Pastor Han.’ Fifteen months after Deacon Jang’s kidnapping and arrest, Pastor Han was lured from his home in Changbai and stabbed to death.

Give thanks for Deacon Jang’s release and pray for his well-being. And for him and his family, healing and comfort and provision in the days ahead.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-11T21:41:58-0600

prodromos said:
I posted a couple of links to what it was back here.

And this.

Brazil fisherman nets UK space debris in Amazon

UK Space Agency says object was part of payload covering that launched with satellite in French Guiana last year

Residents from Salinópolis hauled the chunk of metal ashore and reported the find to a local military base. Photograph: Tarso Sarraf/AFP/Getty Images

And this.

Google balloon falls on Chino Hills | News | championnewspapers.com

Google balloon falls on Chino Hills.

And all these, these are only a few for this year.

2025:
- On 19 February 2025, a Composite overwrapped pressure vessel and other fragments from SpaceX Falcon-9 second stage survived reentry and impacted a village in Poland causing some damage to property.[71][72]
- On 24 March 2025, the trunk of the SpaceX Crew-9 Dragon spacecraft reentered the atmosphere and its debris landed in Erg Chech region of Sahara desert.[73]
- On 10 May 2025, three to four Composite overwrapped pressure vessels from a reentered space object were found in Armstrong and Cañada de Gómez towns of Santa Fe, Argentina.[74][75]
- On 10 May 2025, the Soviet Kosmos 482 Venus descent craft crashed into either Indian Ocean, Europe or Australia on 10 May 2025 at an 6:04 to 7:32 UTC window.[76]
- On 25 September 2025, A large cylindrical fragment of reentered space debris with 1.2 meter diameter and 1.7 meter length was found in Puerto Tirol (Chaco Province, Argentina). The object was wrapped in carbon fiber and had 40 cm hole on one end.[77][78][79][80] The object was marked with serial number FG-144A/GFFa3-11/S9-2305 [81] and could belong to the Chinese rocket Jielong 3.[82]
- On 18 October, a suspected piece of space debris consistent with attributes of a Composite overwrapped pressure vessel was found in Pilbara region of Western Australia.[83][84] The object was in flames when discovered by mine workers.[85] Recovered object could be from reentered upper stage of Chinese rocket Jielong-3.[86][87]

It's like earth has become a junk yard for their supposed space junk.

RileyG · 2025-11-11T21:39:48-0600

May God bless him abundantly!

HARK! · 2025-11-11T21:39:12-0600

Hentenza said:
Most epistles are directed at a church.

None of them were. Most were directed at the Ger Toshav.

Hentenza said:
None of these were assemblies of Israel.

They all are

Hentenza said:
None of these were Jewish.

Irrelevant.

Hentenza said:
“Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy, To the church

Mistranslation. The word translates to assembly. I have already proven that. Repeating the mistranslation again, does not legitimize it.

Hentenza said:
over all things to the church,”

Again

Hentenza said:
and the church

And again

Hentenza said:
“To the church

and again

Hentenza said:
To the churches of Galatia:”

and again

Hentenza said:
That’s just a few. The word ekklesia appears in the NT over 100 times

Yes, the Greek word is ekklesia; and as I have proven, it means assembly.

Hentenza said:
with the vast majority referring to the Church that Christ founded which is the body of believers in Christ.

The believers in Yahshua are the assembly of Israel.

Again Yahshua was commissioned for none but Israel. That is what Yahshua said himself.

The renewed covenant is with Israel. That is what YHWH himself said himself.

I'll thrust them over you unsubstantiated opinion.

Hentenza said:
Since Israel in general refused the messiah they are not part of the body of Christ.

All of Israel accepts Messiah. If they don't accept Messiah; they are not part of Israel, no matter what they claim.

Again, the renewed covenant is with Israel.

Ignoring Jeremiah's, the author of Hebrews', and Paul's, writings doesn't refute that assertion.

RileyG · 2025-11-11T21:38:32-0600

rambot said:
I think the assault on the child was the REAL sadness here.

I guess some people have differing priorities.

Agreed.

Oompa Loompa · 2025-11-11T21:29:00-0600

wing2000 said:
I would support eliminating government shutdowns period. Force the Congress to pass a real, annual budget, on time.

Welcome to MAGA county.

Christsfreeservant · 2025-11-11T21:26:20-0600

“My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous; and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.

“By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments. The one who says, ‘I have come to know Him,’ and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; but whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him: the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked.” (1 John 2:1-6 NASB1995)

Context is important here. Many people read verses 1-2 only and they stop there and they build their own doctrine of salvation. Yet, if we are of genuine biblical faith in Jesus Christ, we have been crucified with Christ in death to sin and raised with Christ to walk in newness of life in him, no longer to live as slaves to sin, but as slaves to God and to his righteousness. It isn’t that Jesus just forgives us our sins and now we can go on sinning and his grace covers it all. Yes, we are forgiven our sins, but we must not keep sinning.

Yes, faith in Jesus Christ does not mean that we will never sin again. And if we do sin we have an advocate with God the Father, who is Jesus Christ, so that we are not condemned if we should sin. But we read in 1 John 1:5-10 that if we claim that we are in fellowship (relationship, partnership) with Jesus Christ/God, but while we keep on sinning, i.e. while sin is still our practice, we are liars who do not practice the truth. But if we walk in truth and righteousness (in the Light), Jesus’ blood cleanses us from all sin.

So, it isn’t that once we put our faith and trust in Jesus Christ that we can keep on sinning while God’s grace covers it all. For God has “drawn a line in the sand,” i.e. he has set a limit which we are not to go beyond, or if we do, we will face the consequences. And that becomes even more clear in this passage of Scripture from 1 John 2:3-6. For it says that if we truly know God/Christ (intimately) that we will keep (obey) his commands (New Covenant). And if we don’t obey him (in practice), we don’t know him.

But it appears to me, from what I have seen so far, that few people seem to be teaching this. Many are teaching a salvation from sin that permits the sinner to keep on their sin without consequence, stating that God’s grace now covers it all. And others will mention that we are to die to sin and walk in obedience to our Lord, and to his commands, but they make it more optional, as something that we should do, but not as required for salvation from sin and for eternal life with God, in the power and wisdom of God.

But Jesus Christ taught that to come to him we must deny self, take up our cross daily (die daily to sin), and follow (obey) him. For if we hold on to living in sin and for self, we will lose our lives for eternity. But if we deny self, die daily to sin, by the Spirit, and we walk in obedience to our Lord and to his commands, in his power, then we have eternal life with God. For not everyone who calls him “Lord” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one DOING (obeying) the will of God (see Luke 9:23-26; Matthew 7:21-23).

For by God-gifted faith in Jesus Christ, which is not of our own doing, we are crucified with Christ in death to sin and raised with Christ to walk in newness of life in him, no longer to live as slaves to sin but as slaves to righteousness in walks of obedience to God’s commands. We are no longer to permit sin to reign in our mortal bodies to make us obey its desires. For if sin is what we obey, it results in death. But if obedience to God is what we obey, it results in sanctification, and its end is eternal life with God (see Romans 6:1-23).

Therefore, we cannot just give lip service to our Lord and expect that God is going to let us into his heaven. By God-gifted and God-persuaded faith in Jesus Christ we must die to sin and live to God and to his righteousness in walks of obedience to his commands, in holy living, in the power of God. Sin must no longer be what we practice, but now we are to serve the Lord with our lives. Our lives are to be surrendered to God, in his service, following after him and his ways, by the grace of God, becoming more like Jesus.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

As the Deer

By Martin J. Nystrom
Based off Psalm 42:1

As the deer panteth for the water
So my soul longeth after You
You alone are my heart's desire
And I long to worship You

You alone are my strength, my shield
To You alone may my spirit yield
You alone are my heart's desire
And I long to worship You

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Bradskii · 2025-11-11T21:23:30-0600

BPPLEE said:
The war went on for just as long under Biden, and Biden supported Israel

Correct.

However, that answer doesn't counter the ones above.

keith99 · 2025-11-11T21:03:53-0600

It is also worth noting that lenders often require mortgage insurance. It does very little for the borrower. It does everything for the lender because they get paid if the borrower defaults.

AV1611VET · 2025-11-11T20:57:20-0600

Interesting title of that video:

I TAUGHT AN OCTOPUS PIANO

Not:

I TRAINED AN OCTOPUS PIANO

Job 33:6 · 2025-11-11T20:42:55-0600

CoreyD said:
Well we don't need a PhD to know it has to be before Genesis 1:2

It doesn't say it's not an event.
Like the verses following though, it's part of the account,
Hence to claim it's not an event, is to detach it from the events... on whose authority? Your own.

Inserting texts now. That's adding... which is like changing the text.
Do you love dishonesty, so long as it supports your ideas?

@Jerry N. can you or your wife read this?
View attachment 373051

Says the woman with the user name Job 33:6.

No. Cheating or being dishonest will get you there, but it is really like In the beginning I rode my bike.

No. It does not.
You went for a translation that inserted a word, to suit your beliefs.
One paraphrase Bible - Good News Translation, and two New ones. Three out of all.
That's not honesty as far as I am concerned.

God created the earth, according to Genesis 1:1. Not began to.
Honesty they say, is the best policy. The Bible says, it's mandatory. Hebrews 13:18

You never did say what the heavens refer to when the Bible says the expanse of the heavens, and you never responded to my question.
The water does not exceed the highest heavens, so that tells us there are heavens above the expanse.
Do you accept that?

You never did address these either.

Oceans and seas are both large bodies of saltwater, but they differ primarily in size, depth, and geographical location. Oceans are vast, deep, and continuous expanses of water that cover approximately 71% of Earth's surface, forming one interconnected global ocean.
Seas, in contrast, are generally smaller, shallower, and are typically partially enclosed by land, often located at the margins of oceans where they meet continents or islands.
While seas are part of the larger ocean system, they are distinguished by their proximity to land and often have unique ecological and geographical characteristics.

God created seas from the existing body of water described as the watery deep.
The seas did not exist until the earth move, but the body of water existed before.
God is not now creating the body of water again. That would be ridiculous to say.
The seas are a new creation. They have now come into existence with the movement of the earth.

The heaven that God here creates, is the expanse, where the birds fly, etc. See this post.
It's not the heavens. That's why from Genesis 1:14-18, we read "heaven / expanse of the heavens"
Did you not read that... expanse of the heavens?
Then read it again, as it is described. The expanse is heaven, right? Therefore the expanse of the heavens is the heaven of the heavens, is it not?
Genesis 1:1 reads "God created the heavens..." Not the heaven.
The heavens in verse 1 is not the expanse.
The expanse lies within the heavens... if you consider realistically, that the earth actually is in the heavens. It's a body within space.

Fun fact, the Jewish Publication society or JPS 1985 and 2006 translations also say "When God began to create heaven and the earth".

If we want to talk about people who presumably know how to read Hebrew. The Jewish Publication Society would most likely know a thing or two about the Torah.

Genesis 1:1

When God began to create*When God began to create Others “In the beginning God created.” heaven and...

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Jewish Publication Society of America Version - Wikipedia

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Bradskii · 2025-11-11T20:40:15-0600

SavedByGrace3 said:
Say what they want. But their opinions have no more weight than those of an illegal immigrant. We are American citizens. My family has been here since 1620. I have people in the Revolution, the Civil War, WW1, WW2, Korea, VN, and the Gulf War. We have blood in this matter. My family has 250 years of blood, sweat, and tears. We cut down the trees, plowed the land, and picked up weapons when called up. We have been paying taxes since the nation was started. Foreigners can say anything they want. But their words really do not weigh beyond a logical position. Fine. They do not have any say in where that money goes. They have no say in who our leaders are. They have no say in our laws, our constitution, or the fate of our children. I assume they have problems in their own countries that need attending to. They have a say there. Not here.
I do not ignore their opinions... I just wonder why they care what happens in my country?

You don't want to know what others think? From my distant viewpoint (although a lot of what Trump does affects in me in some way) I can give a viewpoint that's based on decades of following US politics. I can give an opinion based on visiting the US for months at a time and having travelled through a fair chunk of your country talking to very many Americans. And, unlike you, they were always very keen to hear what we thought of their country.

I would welcome your views on Australia if a matter came up in the forum. What I wouldn't do would complain that because you haven't even visited, haven't followed Aussie politics for years, paid tax and 'cut down the trees and plowed the land' that you aren't entitled to comment. Although you do suggest that you do not ignore our opinions. In which case, they have some weight I would have thought.

Hentenza · 2025-11-11T20:40:09-0600

SabbathBlessings said:
This isn't the Biblical definition of rest, but I will give some alternate Scriptures for consideration for those who might be interested.

lol At least have the courage to actually quote my post.

SabbathBlessings said:
Does this mean we can steal or start worshiping other gods.

Typical strawman. Didn’t I say that Jesus two commandments fulfilled all of the law including the ones that you posted? Is annyone making the argument that now we can sin to our hearts content? Of course not. And didn’t I also stated that the Holy Spirit now convicts the believer? So tell me, what is the function of the Holy Spirit?

Let’s start with this since the rest we’ve discussed ad naseum across several threads. Btw- I’m still waiting on a verse that shows that the sabbath was kept before Moses and a post resurrection verse that requires the Christian to keep the 4th commandment. You are two verses away from winning your argument.

Fervent · 2025-11-11T20:39:55-0600

Flat earth vs globe earth, the real geniuses know it's pyramid earth.

JSRG · 2025-11-11T20:26:26-0600

Vambram said:
Campaign for Accountability is very wrong about their accusation that there is no probable cause.

The fact that the career prosecutor didn't think there was enough evidence to bring a case and Trump had to fire him in order to install a loyalist (Halligan) to bring the case, and the fact no other prosecutor in Halligan's new office was willing to join the indictment of Comey, is already a strong indication there was not probable cause.

There is also the fact that the prosecutor's case, at least from what they have shown, seems to be rather devoid of merit if the information here is correct:

The Situation: Where’s the Lie?

The government’s response to James Comey’s vindictive prosecution raises one very big and important question.

www.lawfaremedia.org

Essentially, the prosecutor's argument is to point to things... that, even if true, don't constitute perjury. Now, maybe they're theoretically setting on some evidence they haven't mentioned, but if so it's odd that they didn't mention it in a filing that's trying to argue to the judge that there is totally evidence against Comey and that the prosecution shouldn't be dismissed.

Fervent · 2025-11-11T20:18:32-0600

Der Alte said:
Could you please provide scripture to support his statement "As far as Sheol, it’s actually divided into two separate places. Abraham’s Bosom is the place for the righteous, and Hades is the place for the wicked where they do suffer in torment until judgment day when they will be judged then thrown into the lake of fire."

It's a misunderstanding of Luke 16:19-31 where "Abraham's bosom" is taken to be a place name rather than recognizing that Lazarus is in the seat of honor at a banquet reclining on Abraham. It's a common misreading, because people tend not to be familiar with the way that meals were eaten in 1st century Judea.

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