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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

No I don't want to disvow its special status as a material that lasts and is obviously the best available to work with if you want quality. I am disagreeing with your assumption that this was the only reason.
You claimed it lined certain shafts and chambers because of their electrical properties. I was merely pointing out that the prestige and implied wealth of using granite was a better explanation. It as if you said the pyramid was capped with gold because it was a conductor, when ostentatious display of wealth and power would be better. (I've heard the capped with gold claim before, though I don't think it is still thought to be the case.)
Why, I am simply pointing out the other issue that was discussed on this thread. That I discussed. You forget I am talking to 3 or 4 others and have to keep track. I was merely clarifying which is good. It actually ensures the right topic. You only have one issue to be concerned about. I have several.
Obviously lol.
Thanks for the lesson on batteries lol.

I'm not sure you've learned it. Batteries, like piezoelectric crystals, can't be a power source unless they are wired together. The trunk-load of batteries and the quartz crystals in granite aren't wired together and you can't make an electrical power source out of them.
So I asked Ai exactly your claim but in reverse (is Granite is a piezoelectric power source) and this was the return.

Yes, granite can be a piezoelectric power source because it contains quartz, which exhibits piezoelectric properties. When subjected to mechanical stress, granite can generate an electric charge. This phenomenon can be used to harvest energy from natural forces like seismic activity or from man-made pressure and vibrations.
Your "AI" (artificial idiot) is slamming random things together. "quartz has piezoelectric properties" + "granite contains quartz" + your leading question + a dash of your favorite nutters and their "electric pyramid nonsense" in the "training data" and you get responses like this. LLMs (like the "AI chatbots") are useful tools, but they are just that, tools. GIGO or if you don't know how to use it you will get nonsense results.

What your not acknowledging is that these random jumbled up crystals can be brought into harmony with certain conditions. The papers I linked mention this. Such as acoustics or an electrical charge onto the pyramid.
How?
Harnessing geothermal and piezoelectric properties of stone for sustainable electricity generation
Abstract
This study introduces a novel hybrid system in which piezoelectric and geothermal properties are integrated into basalt and quartz stones to generate green electricity. The same is satisfied by the energy conversion capability, high thermal holding capacity, and the strong piezoelectricity of quartz.


When Quartz is squeezed directly, mechanical stress leads to an electric charge, while inversely, an applied electric field causes the material to generate mechanical vibrations. This creates the opportunity for energy harvesting,
It’s On: What do the Fraser River and the Great Pyramid Have In Common? - Science World
I was speaking of the global location. Not within that location. The global and local environments and conditions each have their own independent effects. The glocal effect is associated with the pyramids being globally located where the electromagnetic waves are.
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The generation of electricity requires the pyramid to vibrate always. Hence the location at which the electromagnetic waves are more on the surface of the globe are chosen to be the perfect sites for the pyramid. The pyramid at Giza is standing on the underwater currents of the river Nile plus on a location where high electromagnetic flux lines can be measured and felt. This provides the vibrations required for the crystals to vibrate at all times.
I said 'what did others say'. Surely you listen to others.

lol

So what about the images and testimony under oath. Lying is a serious offense. This is the other kind of evidence which is experiencial in nature. Someone is giving an eye witness testimony. Either they are making it up, deluded or its real. When you get severak very dredible eye witnesses it gives weight to the experiencial evidence. When the belief persists after interegation and analysis then its a qualified belief.
What "eyewitness testimony"? Pyramids have been there for millennia.
Sometimes eye witness testimony makes the difference in a case. Its treated seriously enough to be a line of evidence in the legal system. It is the basis of Christ and the bible which has stood the test of time. Tests have been done that show the same brain patterns for real events are utilised in their experiences and not coming for the dream or imagination or emotional area of the brain.
Though this is not on topic, it is also false. Eye witnesses are *not* good sources. Our knowledge of Jesus of Nazareth is not based on eyewitness testimony anyway. I suggest you go read a proper source on the origins of the Gospels. But there is no need to discuss it here as it is not the topic.
I don't think we should underestimate experiencial evidence. Then you start to have to undermine the sanity of good people and start creating conspiracies just to discredit them. Without a shred of evidence.
Which is utterly irrelevant to the principle (ancient, unknown civilizations) and secondary claims (lost ancient rock shaping technology) you have made in this thread.
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Creation of Man patterned after God - the GodHead

You've explained it well here but still..................I have to pray about it. It's a hard thing to understand :praying:
Yes, it can be difficult!

God is a uniplural word
Man is a uniplural word

The whole creation of Man with its billions, upon billions of lives, is still one.

The same as looking at God with Three in the Godhead is still One

A uniplural noun is a word that appears in the plural form but is used for singular and plural subjects alike.

May the Holy Spirit guide your understanding’
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Disneyland 'MAGA Invasion' Organizers Reveal Plans to 'Trigger' Guests and ‘Make Disney Great Again’



Guest Courtesy and Attire Policies​

  • Proper attire, including shoes and shirts, must be worn at all times. Clothing that drags on the ground is prohibited in theme parks. Clothing with multiple layers is subject to search. We reserve the right to deny admission to or remove any person wearing attire that we consider inappropriate or attire that could detract from the experience of other Guests. Visible tattoos that could be considered inappropriate, such as those containing objectionable language or designs, are not permitted. There are specific costume guidelines for special events such as Halloween parties; please refer to the additional policies applicable to those events.


Current single day ticket prices range from $104-$224 per person. I guess if they want to spend that kind of money just to “trigger the libs” and also get thrown out of the park, go for it.





Best way to trigger the libs is to self-own.

For example, look at the current state of the economy.
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Historic Premillennialism vs Amillennialism

The "rapture" is the first resurrection .... there is no "secrete rapture" ... personally I don't like or use the term. There are two resurrections.
Not according to the authoritative apostolic teaching (1 Th 4:16-17) of Christ (Lk 1:16),

unless the rebirth from eternal death into eternal life by the sovereign will (as unaccountable as the wind, Jn 3:6-8) of the Holy Spirit (Jn 3:3-5) is referred to metaphorically as a "resurrection" in the prophetic riddle (Nu 12:6-8) of Rev.
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"Don't Give up the Ship"

What about the enlisted men who followed Calley's orders?
Some of them faced court-martial, but none of them was convicted.

The Calley case was the specific issue that caused the DoD to greatly enhance its Law of Armed Conflict training as I knew it (and taught it) during my career. Immense emphasis was placed on the soldiers understanding what an "illegal order" specifically is, what an "illegal order" would look like in their specific military specialties, and that they had a duty to disobey an illegal order.

For instance, the specific kinds of things that would be criminal in my task of targeting nuclear weapons in a major command headquarters are different from the kinds of things that would be criminal for an infantry soldier in the field.

The military judicial system has some interesting differences from the civilian judicial system, and one of them is that justifiable ignorance of the law is a defense. That's why military leadership advises troops of their duties "nine ways from Sunday and on every Monday," because if the troop can prove his ignorance or confusion was reasonable, he may walk.

In the case of Calley's soldiers, the military courts realized that there was too much confusion of who did what and who knew what in that moment of "fog of war" to convict anyone else.

I don't think that philosophical judgements are being called for and that for most soldiers the problem does not even arise, but it might, and it puts the soldiers themselves in a difficult position. It's not merely a "philosophical position" that a National Guard soldier should not shoot his own unarmed fellow citizens, even they they have gotten away with it in the past.
I keep saying: You are posting things for which specific laws already exist. There are already specific laws covering "shooting his own unarmed fellow citizens." So, no, that would call for philosophical judgments. Y'all keep doing that. Everything you think of is already covered by existing laws and would be "illegal orders."

My point continues to be: Trump is never going to issue a clearly "illegal order." His lawyers are smarter than that. They are going to nuance the hell out of his orders, so that they will call for philosophical judgments from Corporal Snuffy Smith.
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Is the Bible inerrant?

My church really endorses NIV which is contrary to their guest speakers. It is non-denominational.
Could the guest speakers have been trying to sell other versions of the Bible? If some people at your church might have bought one, that is fine activity, but you do not need to let it prevent you from just using the best one for you.

NIV Bible - New International Version - they have a fine looking website there, with a blog that looks especially helpful for articles about application to life.

What is the New International Version (NIV)? | GotQuestions.org - and here is Got Questions? website on the NIV.

This is an easy summary of different translation styles:

  • Formal Translation: A very word-for-word translation that often uses formal, more archaic language (example: the King James Version or NASB);
  • Dynamic Translation: A thought-for-thought translation (example: NIV or NLT);
  • Paraphrase Translation: An idea-for-idea translation that involves much more interpretation from the translator (example: The Message);
from here.

NIV is a Dynamic translation, so it is formed in English to blend easy readability with what the original languages said. Here is the NIV websites' own answer about which original texts were used "The translators of the NIV have used the Old Testament and New Testament texts that are widely accepted among modern scholars as giving the committee the best possible access to what God inspired in the original documents.

For the Old Testament the Masoretic Text, the standard Hebrew text as published in the latest edition of Biblia Hebraica, has been used throughout. The NIV translators have sometimes used variants of the Hebrew Masoretic tradition or other ancient versions, where these seemed to provide a superior text than the Masoretic tradition. These are all noted in the NIV translator footnotes that appear at the bottom of the page of the text that they reference.

For the New Testament, the translators have used the accepted Greek New Testament text as printed in the Nestle-Aland and United Bible Societies’ Greek New Testaments. Here also the translators have occasionally accepted a variant printed in these editions. Footnotes usually indicate the options in each case."
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Marjorie Taylor Greene announces resignation after Trump spat

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., said Friday night she would resign from Congress in early January. The announcement followed a public breakdown in her relationship with President Donald Trump over issues including the release of Jeffrey Epstein-related files.

In a statement posted to X, Greene said her final day as representative of Georgia’s 14th District will be Jan. 5, 2026, citing Trump’s alleged recent attacks on her as a key reason for her decision.

Trump had called Greene a “traitor” and a “lunatic” after she supported a bill requiring the Department of Justice to disclose its Epstein investigation records, The Christian Post reported earlier this week.

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Trump sees it as a distraction away from what he considers more important matters ... maybe ... but people want to know about it regardless. No doubt it will dominate the news cycle .... people just need to stay on top of the other things going on as well. Focus on all the issues.
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An alternate future

I've often mentioned my (old) Presbyterian pastor whom I learnt a lot from, although he discouraged me. The night my father died he turned up in my room.

I was an atheist at the time, but he predicted I'd become Christian, and as part of that "... You will meet a pastor. You'll think he's great, but all he'll do is to discourage you even more!" (than he had himself).

I met the pastor circa 1982/83. When I was going to leave his church in 1991 (I was getting married and moving away) he admitted he had discouraged me, but as I said I still hold him in high respect. Incidentally h was not an admirer of some of the "last days" stuff which comes out of various (mainly Protestant) personalities in the USA in the main, saying "... it's a bit weird..."

But he had some thoughts on the issue. For one thing he was very firm on the business about no man knows the day or the hour of Christ's return. It could be tomorrow, and it could be 10,000 years down the track. We haven't been told.

However I find that if he thought something would happen it did sooner or later. Several of his predictions have come to pass since he died in 1992, including my becoming Catholic (1997); there would be a lot of priestly pedophile cases after I became Catholic (media from around 2002); my sister would get leukemia and not live very long which happened (2005 aged 45); his own eldest son would have a major health breakdown which was a stroke (1996 or 97); there would be a pandemic (Covid 2020); there would be a second Gulf War as the "... Americans will have had enough of Saddam Hussein and they will get rid of him. But I think they will lose a FEW men the next time (2003); I'd make a silly mistake at work and "they" would use that to get rid of me (1995); etc. These were all predicted and they all happened.

He wasn't an admirer of Zionism, commenting that ".... they've served their purpose ..." (it's up to the Jews to recognise Christ, not the other way round). But he also conjectured "I think He (God) is going to drive us off the planet... I think we'll learn to teleport..."

He died in 1992, and (from Wikipedia) "the first successful The first successful experimental quantum teleportation of a photon's polarization was achieved by two independent research groups in 1997", five years later.

It's a long cry from that event to teleporting material objects, and even more so living creatures which have a spirit.

But I think we'll get around that obstacle eventually, although there will most likely be a considerable hiatus between the first inanimate teleportation and the first biological teleportation.

We've moved a long way in space travel since World War II. Robert Goddard's rockets might have gone a couple of hundred feet into the air in the 1920's. The V2's were flying about 250 kms in 1944; and NASA landed men on the moon a mere 25 years later. And of course we now have AI and robotics both of which would be absolutely necessary for a civilisation in space. It's obvious God is letting us do these things, which implies they form part of His plan.

As Dietrich Bonhoeffer might have put it, Man has "Come of Age".

Now suppose his prediction happens, that God does indeed drive us off the planet - what price Jerusalem or for that matter Rome in a civilisation which might be spread through a fair section of the Milky Way? I'm Catholic and I accept the Petrine Chair - Christ was setting up an office and giving the church authority when He declared Peter the Rock.

But I know of no Biblical mandate for Rome to be the "eternal city".

The way politics is going we could well be heading for nuclear wars, and those cities could easily be destroyed.

So I'm not over impressed with hardline pronunciations about either Jerusalem or Rome for that matter. In the end they're just cities.

That's my cold blooded view, and that's what I think.
Just follow the Lamb wherever He goes .... can't go wrong with that ;o)
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Dancing robot, life-sized puppet part of big spending on promotion of $3 billion light rail project

The crime problems are similar to those in New York City, Chicago, and San Francisco. Older Asian women are targets. Add to that poor planning. The system should not have been above ground and the above ground system was put on street level which means now putting in turnstiles instead of the current honor system would be extremely expensive. A number of homeless simply lived on the rail cars or at the stops. Instead of focusing on the perpetrators of the crimes St. Paul was working on reparations and "gun violence." Repeat offenders do not seem to phase them.
You know, if mankind went extinct, all those safety issues would go away.
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Hi Chubby,

You might like this Bible study on Revelation and than they go into Daniel. Its 112 episodes that are about 30 minutes each. There are two pastors and two lay people going through the Book of Revelations and this is a great study.

Revelation is highly symbolic but the Bible explains what these symbols means clearly, if we allow Scriptures to interpret Scripture.

Anyway, it was a Bible study I really enjoyed, listened to it twice. If you go through it please be sure to have your Bible handy, because its pretty much just going through it word for word.

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Thank you very, very much! I will take a look!

I have not read Revelations with the family yet so any assistance with what I know will be a million questions will be gratefully received. :praying:
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Kindness

It is so refreshing to see this view put here...I think far too many of us conflate 'kindness' with 'acceptance' of sin and tolerance etc to the point where we have forgotten what following Christ means.

We are not supposed to 'tolerate' sin.

We are supposed to call it out, challenge it and guide people to Christ who loves them enough to see them OUT of sin. There are consquences to sin. God's kindness wants to remove those from us! He does not tolerate nor accept sin in any capacity!

I don't know when this alternative Christian viewpoint came from but it is unbiblical and wrong.

It's good to see that some still see the truth and endeavor to share it with others.

Thank you!
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Notre Dame Professor Secretly Books Campus Rooms for Condom and Plan B Distribution...

University ignores deception, blatant policy violation​

A Gender Studies professor has secretly booked rooms for Irish 4 Reproductive Health (I4RH) using a fake club name. I4RH, an unofficial student group, uses the reservations to meet and distribute contraceptives on campus—a direct violation of university rules.

Professor Pamela Butler, Associate Director and Director of Undergraduate Studies for the Gender Studies Department, books the rooms under the “Gender Studies Club,” an organization that does not exist on Notre Dame’s club database. I4RH uses Butler’s reservations to host students in Debartolo Hall, where the group distributes free “resource bags” for attendees, which contain condoms, Plan B, and cards with information on abortion services for students.

As I4RH told the Rover, the group is “not affiliated with the University in any official capacity, nor do we intend to be.” Student Activities Office (SAO) guidelines limit the use of campus rooms to official student clubs only, which would prevent I4RH from meeting on campus in an official capacity. Despite this, I4RH uses Instagram to publicly advertise its meetings in Debartolo Hall.

Butler primarily researches “feminist, queer, and trans theories of race and racialization” and “reproductive politics,” according to the Gender Studies website. She teaches courses on “Feminist and Queer Prison Studies,” “Race and the Politics of Reproduction,” and “New Readings in Transgender Theory,” which she is offering this spring.

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Pope Leo XIV Issues Apostolic Letter 'In Unitate Fidei' on 1,700th Anniversary of Nicene Council

Ahead of his upcoming Apostolic Journey to Türkiye, Pope Leo issues the Apostolic Letter 'In unitate fidei' on the 1700th Anniversary of the Council of Nicaea, broken down into 12 points, with the hope of "encouraging the whole Church to renew her enthusiasm for the profession of faith."

Ahead of his upcoming Apostolic Journey to Türkiye, Pope Leo XIV issued on Sunday, 23 November, the Solemnity of Christ the King, the Apostolic Letter 'In unitate fidei' on the 1700th Anniversary of the Council of Nicaea.

The full Letter, which has the hope of "encouraging the whole Church to renew her enthusiasm for the profession of faith," is broken down into twelve points, and can be read in its entirety HERE.

In 2025, the Catholic Church is commemorating the 1,700th anniversary of the First Council of Nicaea, convened in 325 AD by Emperor Constantine I in the city of Nicaea.

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‘Bride of Christ’: Meet the Sisters Adorers Dedicating Lives to Praying for Priests

The Sisters Adorers of the Royal Heart of Jesus Christ Sovereign Priest are drawing young women who seek a contemplative life rooted in tradition, adoration and prayer for priestly vocations.

NAPLES, Italy — Since its foundation 35 years ago, the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest has inspired men and women to embrace a traditional vocation dedicated to honor God and the sanctification of priests in the service of the Church and souls.

Animated by a deeply missionary spirit, the institute seeks to spread the reign of Our Lord Jesus Christ in all spheres of human life.

Today, the Institute of Christ the King includes 147 canons and 108 seminarians serving in 13 countries around the world, carrying out their apostolic work in the churches entrusted to them, in schools and missions in Africa and through retreats, catechesis and spiritual guidance.

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‘Burial Gardens’: How a Cemetery Visit Becomes a Lesson in Hope

In the light of Christ’s Resurrection, even the resting place of the dead points to the promise that all shall be made new.

“Look, Dad — a burial garden!”
It took me a moment to process our 6-year-old’s exclamation from the back of the minivan. Burial, yes — she was referencing the cemetery we were passing across the road — but did she just say “burial garden?”

A few days before, we had visited the grave of her great-grandmother, who died three years ago. My mom had brought flowers to the cemetery, distributing them to the grandkids for them to place on the ground. We cried; we laughed; we told stories — we remembered.

This was the first time our 6-year-old — who has always had a deep curiosity about death and the afterlife — had visited a cemetery. But apparently, she wasn’t afraid or disturbed at all. On the contrary: Whether it was the flowers, the family bond, or just the orderly rows of headstones in that plot of land, she walked away conceiving of it as a garden — a place not only of tranquility and peace but of vibrancy and color.

Out of the mouths of the young, God has prepared praise for himself (Matthew 21:16) — and almost immediately, the phrase struck me as a perfect summary of the paradoxical attitude of the Christian toward death. On the one hand, a cemetery is a place of “burial,” the interment of our mortal remains into the earth. Burial signals to us the inevitability and finality of death. “We must all die,” a wise woman of Scripture declares. “We are like water spilled on the ground, which cannot be gathered up” (2 Samuel 14:14).

On the other hand, a cemetery is a kind of garden, a charged place of patient waiting, hidden growth, and, above all, of hope for a future flowering. Indeed, in the Gospel of John, we hear that Jesus himself was buried in an actual garden: “Now there was a garden in the place where he was crucified, and in the garden there was a new tomb in which no one had ever been laid” (John 19:41).

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Armed Attackers Kidnap Children From Catholic Elementary School in Nigeria

Nigeria has been battling with a surge of violence orchestrated by gangs, whose members carry out indiscriminate attacks, kidnapping for ransom, and in some cases, killing.

The Diocese of Kontagora in Nigeria has described as “painful and disturbing” the Friday, Nov. 21, kidnapping of children and staff at St. Mary’s Catholic Nursery, Primary, and Secondary Schools.

In a statement shared with ACI Africa, CNA’s news partner in Africa, the diocesan secretary of the Nigerian episcopal see appealed for intensified national action against insecurity.

Father Jatau Luka Joseph said armed attackers invaded St. Mary’s Catholic Primary and Secondary Schools in Papiri, Niger state, in the early hours of Nov. 21, abducting “some pupils, students, teachers, and a security personnel who was badly shot.”

“The incident occurred between 1 a.m. and 3 a.m., causing fear and distress within the school community,” he said.

“The Catholic Diocese of Kontagora strongly condemns the attack and expresses deep concern for the safety of the kidnapped children and their families,” Father Luka Joseph said.

He added that security agencies were immediately informed and had begun coordinated efforts to ensure the safe rescue and return of the victims.

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