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‘Someone Call a Priest’: Sacraments at Time of Crisis Are Not Administered as Often as They Used to Be
- By FaithT
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
- 1 Replies
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I have a card in my wallet that says that I’m Catholic and to call a priest in case of an emergency. I think I got it from Rugged Rosaries.The Register contacted pastors across the country asking the question whether emergency personnel call them to life-threatening situations. For the most part, the answer is No.
When a multi-ton pile of clay covered a steam-shovel fireman in Cambridge, Massachusetts, in early December 1952, a 40-year-old Catholic priest had himself lowered upside down into a hole workers had dug to try to save the man.
“Only the tips of the priest’s heels were visible as his murmured prayers were heard above,” The Boston Globe reported the next day. Only a portion of the man’s leg was visible when the priest first got near him, and by the time workers freed the rest of Elpidio Baia, a 55-year-old father of three, the accident victim had died. But Father John Tierney’s efforts to bring him the last rites of the Church are an example of what used to be common — police and firefighters calling a priest to an accident so he can administer sacraments to the critically injured.
Priests still frequently offer confession, Eucharist and anointing of the sick at hospitals, of course, but not so much at the scenes of accidents. The words “priest called to the scene” and similar phrases appeared in many news stories in the United States during the last century until the late 1960s, when they started tapering off, according to searches of online databases conducted by the Register.
It’s not common anymore.
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‘Someone Call a Priest’: Sacraments at Time of Crisis Are Not Administered as Often as They Used to Be
The Register contacted pastors across the country asking the question whether emergency personnel call them to life-threatening situations. For the most part, the answer is No.www.ncregister.com
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Is Hell Annihilationism or Eternal Torment
- By Dan1988
- General Theology
- 99 Replies
Thanks for sharing your private opinion, that God contradicts Himself but I reject that opinion, because the Bible is clear that God does not lie, nor does He contradict Himself, nor does He change His mind, nor does He go back on His promises.What kind of a loving God would torture people for eternity? I would not ... could not worship a god like that.
Theres all kinds of scripture that teaches death is a sleep ... including from Jesus himself.
Meaning of the Metaphor:
- John 11:11-13:
Jesus says of the deceased Lazarus, "Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep, but I am going to awaken him from his sleep." The disciples misunderstood, thinking He meant literal sleep, but Jesus clarified, "Lazarus is dead".
- 1 Thessalonians 4:13-14:
Paul writes, "Brothers, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him".- Daniel 12:2:
"Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt".- Matthew 9:24
& Luke 8:52: Jesus tells mourners at a girl's death, "Go away. The girl is not dead but asleep," before raising her.- Acts 7:60:
Stephen's death is described as "falling asleep in the Lord" after he cries out to Jesus.
- Temporary State: Sleep is temporary, implying an eventual awakening (resurrection).
- Unconsciousness: It signifies a state of inactivity and unconsciousness, where the dead know nothing.
- Hope: For believers, it offers comfort, pointing to the resurrection and eternal life in Christ.
- Fifty-four Texts That Describe Death as "Sleep" - Fulcrum7
Feb 5, 2021 — In Job, believed to be the oldest book in the Bible, death is again referred to as sleep: Job 7:21: “Now shall I sleep ...
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No it's not opinion ... it's from scripture
- 1 Deuteronomy 31:16: “The Lord said to Moses, Behold, thou shalt sleep with thy fathers.”
- II Samuel 7:12: “When thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers.""
- I Kings 1:21: “When my lord the king shall sleep with his fathers.”
- I Kings 2:10: “David slept with his fathers.”
- I Kings 11:21: “David slept with his fathers.”
- I Kings 11:43: “Solomon slept with his fathers.”
- I Kings 14:20: “Jeroboam...slept with his fathers.”
- I Kings 14:31: “Rehoboam slept with his fathers.”
- I Kings 15:8: “Abijam slept with his fathers.”
- I Kings 15:24: “Asa slept with his fathers.”
- I Kings 16:6: “Baasha slept with his fathers.”
- I Kings 16:28: “Omri slept with his fathers.”
- I Kings 22:40: “Ahab slept with his fathers.”
- I Kings 22:50: “Jehoshaphat slept with his fathers.”
- II Kings 8:24: “Joram slept with his fathers”
- II Kings 10:35: “Jehu slept with his fathers”
- II Kings 13:9: “Jehoahaz slept with his fathers”
- II Kings 13:13: “Joash slept with his fathers”
- II Kings 14:16: “Jehoash slept with his fathers”
- II Kings 14:22: “The king slept with his fathers”
- II Kings 14:29: “Jeroboam slept with his fathers”
- II Kings 15:7: “Azariah slept with his fathers”
- II Kings 15:22: “Menahem slept with his fathers”
- II Kings 15:38: “Jotham slept with his fathers”
- II Kings 16:20: “Ahaz slept with his fathers”
- II Kings 20:21: “Hezekiah slept with his fathers”
- II Kings 21: 18: “Manasseh slept with his fathers”
- II Kings 24:6: “Jehoiakim slept with his fathers”
- II Chron. 9:31: “Solomon slept with his fathers”
- II Chron. 12:16: “Rehoaboam slept with his fathers”
- II Chron. 14:1: “Abijah slept with his fathers”
- II Chron. 16:13: “Asa slept with his fathers”
- II Chron. 21:1: “Jehoshaphat slept with his fathers”
- II Chron. 26:2: “The king slept with his fathers”
- II Chron. 26:23: “Uzziah slept with his fathers”
- II Chron. 27:9: “Jotham slept with his fathers”
- II Chron. 28:27: “Ahaz slept with his fathers”
- II Chron. 32:33: “Hezekiah slept with his fathers”
- II Chron. 33:20: “Manasseh slept with his fathers”
In Job, believed to be the oldest book in the Bible, death is again referred to as sleep:- Job 7:21: “Now shall I sleep in the dust”
- Job 14:12: “They shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep”
In the Psalms, death is a sleep:- Psalm 13:3: “Lest I sleep the sleep of death”
- Psalm 90:5: “Thou carriest them away as with a flood; they are as a sleep”
Daniel promises a resurrection of the sleeping dead:- Daniel 12:2: “Many of they that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake”
Jesus described death as “sleep”:- Matthew 9:24: “The maid is not dead but sleepeth.”
- Mark 5:39: “The damsel is not dead but sleepeth”
- Luke 8:52: “She is not dead but sleepeth”
- John 11:11: “Our friend Lazarus sleepeth”
At Jesus’ crucifixion:- Matthew 27:52: “Many bodies of the saints which slept arose”
Luke reiterates I Kings:- Acts 13:36: “David...fell asleep, and was laid unto his fathers”
Paul describes death as sleep:- I Cor. 15:20: “Christ is risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that sleep”
- I Cor. 15:51: “We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed”
- I Thess 4:13: “I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope”
- I Thess. 4:14: “If we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus”
So regardless of what you read on Reddit or any other mans opinion, Gods Word is the only authority I submit to. If I was to follow your private opinion, I would have to reject what God has said about the matter.
I see you believe that the word "death" is only used in one single context in the bible, that's why you stayed well away from the other 100 verses which confirm that the word is used to describe many different things. You are asking me to put on my blinkers and ignore all of the ways, just to give your opinion legitimacy.
Here's a challenge, how many different ways is death described in the bible, lets see what Doctor google tells you
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What's on your mind?
- By SarahsKnight
- Singles (Only*)
- 32234 Replies
Then, may I offer this Scripture verse instead, as upon reading your response i immediately thought of it. John 19:30 ->
So when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, “It is finished!” And bowing His head, He gave up His spirit.
I like to think that when Jesus breathed His last (well, for three days anyway, until His resurrection
), this meant that God's wrath against sin and wickedness was completed. And remember, in one of the very passages you mentioned to back up your need for repentance over certain sins, it says that it is God's "goodness" (as quoted from the version you used, whereas I have seen it written as "lovingkindness" in other versions) that leads folk to repentance. Thus, the fear of hell/Gehenna/second death that you exhibited a few days ago in this thread does not appear to be a helpful factor in leading you into repenting over the problems and sins that you may be struggling with (regardless of whether you take the traditional view that Gehenna means eternal conscious torment, a literal second death/destruction as my group believes, or a corrective punishment as the universalists seem to believe), but rather, that God loves you and wants to lead you away gently from darkness as the Good Shepherd.Now, I do not mean to say all this in presumption that I understand your personal struggle right now, as you and especially God would know that far better than I do; I only wish to offer you solace and gentle help via Scripture in any way that I can, as I believe that it is the good and godly thing to do in situations like this. That's all.
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