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Digital ID

What are the churches saying about Digital ID, the mark of the beast, transhumanism etc?

My church is silent on these things so I intend to ask them what their views are and how we are to guard against all of what is likely to come as a result of the pursuit of the above.

It would be good to know if any churches are assisting and how?
Hi Chubby,

This is what I believe based on Scriptures.

We are told the mark of the beast is the battle over worship.

A beast is a kingdom or government Dan7:23

Rev 13:2 Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast. 4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?”

Rev 13: 16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has [g]the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

The mark of the beast is only something this government that has great authority can tell you what their mark is. They have actually already done so.


Rev 14:6 Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth—to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people— 7 saying with a loud voice, “Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.” (Exo20:11)

8 And another angel followed, saying, “Babylon[f] is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she has made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.”

9 Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”

12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

So the end time final war will be over worship. We are told whoever we obey is who we serve (or worship) Rom6:16

Jesus defined false worship as

Mark7:7 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men

We are told this beast or government system changes God's times and laws.

Dan 7:25 He shall speak pompous words against the Most High,
Shall persecute[j] the saints of the Most High,
And shall intend to change times and law.
Then the saints shall be given into his hand
For a time and times and half a time.

False worship is elevating mans traditions over the commandments of God and Jesus was quoting from the Ten Commandments, God's own written and spoken Testimony Exo31:18

This beast system changed God's times and laws based on their authority which there is only one law that is both a time (every seventh day Exo20:10) and law (4th commandments Exo20:8-11) and we have a clear history of it being changed not by God that most the world has followed (wondered after)

The mark is not going to be a literal mark but they could enforce a literal mark through buying and selling if we do not follow their authority over God's. God will have His own mark/seal that only He knows of His faithful people Isa8:16 Eze20:20 and this group of people will be faithful to God and His commandments and we see clearly these two groups in Rev14:11-12
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this is the same as saying works are necessary for your faith to be true.

Would you agree with that?
No. Otherwise, we could say that the faith of the thief on the cross was not true. You are trying to say that works are necessary for salvation and that contradicts many scriptures. You need to ask God for wisdom because you are wrong about almost everything (James 1:5-7). If someone is saved and they have the opportunity to do the good works that God prepares for people to do AFTER they become saved (Ephesians 2:8-10), then if their faith is genuine, they will obey God and do those works. Having genuine faith means you are willing to serve God and isn't just mental assent. But, to be so wooden about it like you are would mean that someone like the thief on the cross was not saved. We are saved by grace through faith and NOT by works (Ephesians 2:8-9). What don't you understand about that?
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Best Possible Uses for AI Imagiable

Networking AI's..!

Say I have $30,000 in the bank, and I ask my AI to help be start a business producing and marketing steering wheel covers. Now my AI asks me what I want them to look and feel like, and does every aspect of the business, from production to sales, by communicating with other AI systems to produce the best product, with a projected high yield profit for me. I literally do nothing, except imagine my product. It does all the work, and I make enough money to start my next project, whatever that is.

I now make money using my imagination.
AI can't do some necessary work for you. It is limited, as its available databases are also limited. No doubt at times there may be wrong information in the web, and AI might give you a bum steer. Choice of words might be critical for AI giving you the "right answer." Therefore you have to have some sense of what the "right answer" might be (or the "good advice") before you can reasonably accept it without blind faith.

I got investment advice of a list of questions to ask about specific options, asking for the best overnight investment. The instructor showed that he used 4 AI engines, in which he recommended 2 of them for success. In those 2 AI engines, he won profit overnight. So I tried the exact same procedure on the 2 recommended AI engines (ChatGPT 5 and Grok 4.1, and I added MS Copilot), on 3 trades I won one and lost two. It proved to me it's basically a "crap shoot" or "coin toss," IOW, a gamble.

I regularly query it for medical advice, since I am retired and ailing. Sometimes I believe the answer is good, but most of the time, after asking all related questions I think of, I end up trashing the info. It may be near the same thing as a doctor's advice, because doctors give advice based on statistical evidence - 70% responded this way, 85% responded to that medicine, etc. So that's what they will prescribe, but it doesn't necessarily apply to you, since everyone's body chemistry is unique. AI is simply passing along statistical probabilities.

Sometimes you roll a 7, and sometimes snake-eyes. I use AI as a tool for possible solutions, but I don't rely on it.
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Trump strikes friendly tone with NYC Mayor-elect Mamdani in Oval Office: 'We agreed a lot'

President Donald Trump and Democratic New York City Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani struck a conciliatory tone during a Friday meeting at the White House, stressing their shared concern for New Yorkers and their skyrocketing cost of living.

Mamdani, a 34-year-old self-described democratic socialist fresh off an upstart victory, echoed Trump's assertion that, despite their differences, the two found common ground about the city's affordability crisis.

Following a roughly 30-minute private meeting in the Oval Office, the two fielded questions from the press, with Trump downplaying the harsh rhetoric they hurled at each other during the mayoral campaign.

"We agreed a lot more than I would have thought," Trump said of their meeting, which they noted focused on populist issues affecting the average person in the city.

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the myth of flat earth debunked again

In regards to airplane windows, they are all convex, much like the lens on a go pro camera. In other words, you are looking out a curved window, not at a curved earth.
Airplane windows are not convex. They are curved to match the fuselage. They don’t distort the view. Also pilot’s windows are like any other windshield glass but much stronger. All passengers and pilots can clearly see the curvature of the earth at cruising altitude. Not to mention the fact that airplane routes can take them from the east side of Africa to the west side of South America by flying over the Pacific Ocean. How could that be possible if the earth is flat?

Ships don't disappear over the curvature of the earth, they advance beyond your visual perspective. Have you ever been on a long narrow highway lined with telephone poles on both sides? Look ahead or behind, the poles will grow closer together and closer to the ground from your perspective. Drive down the road a mile and those same poles will be at the same height and distance from one another as you originally perceived them. Aim a camera with a telescopic lens at the ship you watched disappear beyond the horizon, magnify the zoom and it will return to view.
That’s perspective. A ship will in fact disappear from bottom to top. Even if you use a telescopic lens the effect will be the same. That is how the ancient Greeks attained the knowledge of a spherical earth.
You plainly stated "the fact that the earth is a sphere is not up for debate". Then why may I ask are you debating it here? If you are convinced that your view of the cosmos is the correct one, and all other viewpoints are " absurd", then what is the point of further discussion?
Because it amazes me that someone would actually believe a flat earth when the earth has been scientifically and visually proven beyond any doubt to be a sphere. It’s even quite entertaining to see the disjointed and desperate arguments. You have fallen for falsehood. It’s sad really.
You mentioned that it was God who created a spherical earth. It was also God who created the first humans, Adam and Eve. He created them in His own image and placed them in the garden called Paradise. They were perfect and innocent and had the presence of God Himself with them regularly. And yet, these magnificent creatures who were blessed beyond measure, and created in the very image of Almighty God, were somehow deceived by nothing more than a few simple statements and suggestions.
Yes Satan deceived them. But we have Jesus now. We believers need to do like Michael the archangel and rebuke the devil in Jesus name. Many scientists are Christians and you are calling them liars.
We live in a fallen world, with fallen natures, not a paradise but a cesspool run by none other than Satan himself. Our enemies, the world and the devil, exist in complete opposition to everything that is holy and good and true. Our enemy the flesh is so easily tempted and corrupted that we must continually guard our hearts and minds against not only the world and the devil, but our own vain thoughts and imaginations. And yet, in light of these obvious spiritual realities, your average believer cannot even allow for the possibility that this evil and fallen world in which we live, just may be misrepresenting Gods creation, how such misrepresentations would obviously benefit them, or that ever falling victim to such a misrepresentation could ever be possible.
First, we are Christians. Christ died in the cross so that we would NOT be fallen creatures. Not the whole world is fallen and 99.9% of the world knows that we live in a spherical earth. No one is deceiving 99.9% of the world. You are not enlightened beyond any one else. Believing in a spherical world, as it actually is, is not a sin. Satan is looking to keep us in sin not to keep us from knowing scientific truth.
I have already asked, why are you here if there is nothing to debate?
I told you above. Your belief in a flat earth is like the carnival oddity.
Have you ever wondered why we are here? Do you think those of us who disagree with you come here because we enjoy the insults, being called idiots and wingnuts and repeatedly being accused of having no discernment or wisdom and many times even being told that we can't even possibly be true Christian believers etc etc? Are we masochists? Trolls? Enemies sent by the devil himself to stir up division? No to all of these.

I can't speak for anyone else, though I know enough people who share my views to confidently say, we are here because at some point in our lives we realized that this world is an empire of lies, ruled by none other than the father of lies, and that a great deal of what we have been told our entire lives served no other purpose than to distract and deceive us into accepting and believing even more lies which would eventually separate us from any knowledge of Almighty God, His creation, His divine purposes, and ultimately His very existence.
In other words tin foil hats and fingers in the ears. My friend I am a Christian saved by the blood of Christ and am also an engineer. I can unequivocally tell you that your belief is absolutely wrong.
That what you call science, and established facts have already had this effect is beyond dispute. The theory of evolution being a prime example. How many people will never believe in God based upon that one scientific theory alone, how many others raised in the faith have abandoned that faith because of the things they were taught as facts during the process of higher education? God only knows.
You really don’t give God enough credit. God already beat the devil. Christ already beat evil. No one can take His sheep out of His hands. No one. No theory of evolution, no scientific advances, nothing can take His sheep. In fact the more scientific advances happen the more it points to God’s creation.
We are here because at some point we realized that what we were told did not align with what we have observed. Do we claim to have all the answers, of course not. What we do have are a wealth insufficiently answered questions. And the God given ability to question those things which we can observably see as unsupported by the commonly accepted answers provided by the so called scientific community and generally accepted by the indoctrinated public at large.
And yet the indoctrinated one is you. Has it not occurred to you that you are the one that is wrong? Why are you, a sinful finite being, questioning the wonderful creation of an infinite omnipotent being? What makes you think that your belief gives you any special gnosis beyond what is observable and has been revealed? You have fallen with the false teachers and I exhort you to pray and realize the falsehood of your belief.
God bless you.
May God bless you and guide you as well.
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Release International prayers for Sri Lanka and Laos.

22 November 2025 – Sri Lanka

Pray for Christian teachers in Sri Lanka who are supported by our partners. They are uniquely placed to help young believers to remain steadfast in the context of significant hostility.

21 November 2025 – Laos

Pray for our partner in Laos, who organises regular Bible training seminars for pastors, many of whom are experiencing persecution. They provide teaching on a range of subjects as well as the much-needed skills opportunity for fellowship.

20 November 2025 – Laos

Pray for ‘Nyok’ and all the workers involved in the distribution of Bibles, Christian literature and worship materials. Pray that these consignments will not be intercepted or confiscated by the authorities (see Voice, April-June).

19 November 2025 – Laos

Give thanks that the church in Laos is growing despite determined opposition in several regions. Pray that the minority people groups, in the country will have the opportunity to hear the gospel.

18 November 2025 – Laos

Pray for Pastor ‘Somsak’, who was removed from his position as a village leader because of his faith and has been threatened with eviction. He said, ‘If God wants me to stay in the village and be salt and light, then God will make a way’ (see Voice, April-June).

17 November 2025 – Laos

Pray for Pastor ‘Vong’, a former witch doctor, who leads a village church. He has been threatened with eviction because of his preaching (see Voice, April-June).

16 November 2025 – Laos

Pray for Pastor ‘Phouang’, who has been harassed and threatened by the authorities because of his Christian work. Pray that he and his family will experience the Lord’s special protection (see Voice, April-June).

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Kiwi in Tokyo – what’s the view from your window this morning?

So, worldwide friends, hit reply with one sentence: what can you see outside your window right now
My dog taking a poop, but I shall not share a photo.
—and does it make you smile, sigh, or pray?
None of the above.
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What of these passages, do they make you think?

Isaiah 56, isnt referring to the 7th day Sabbath, it is referring to the Day of Atonement, which is a Sabbath itself, as you will find no where in the Torah where it forbids you of doing anything of the pleasure of the Sabbath, BUT the Day of Atonement is the ONLY day in which your are told to afflict your soul and turn from all things of your own pleasure. So it is very clear Isaiah 56 is taking about that day and not the 7th Day Sabbath.

There are no passages in Isaiah 56 showing Sabbath being mentioned that are referring to just the Day of Atonement, that it is from Sabbath to Sabbath is indication that it is Sabbaths a seven day week apart. "My righteousness will be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who lays hold of it, who keeps from defiling the Sabbath, and keeps his hands from doing any evil." This is any Sabbath, not at all just the Day of Atonement, and it is for any foreigners who join, as shown in the passages in this context, Isaiah 56; any gentiles are included, when they do join in doing this.
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Do you keep the Sabbath? (poll)

How do you hold Adam accountable to a law he did not know about (and the entirety of humanity would not know about) for thousands of years after he lived?
He was made in the image and likeness of God; God was with him. He knew, more so than any after him.

Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and divinity; so that they are without excuse:

Rom 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Rom 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
Rom 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
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The Lord's Wrath - How will it Happen

Palestinia, as designated by Emperor Hadrian;- 135 AD, was part of the Holy Land. Genesis 15:18
Today, it is just a figment of some peoples imagination.
You mean to tell me, the Holy Land stretches from the Nile to the Euphrates, as shown here?

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does it do me any good to read a couple verses of the Bible each day?

I pray for God to direct me to the passages, scriptures, books and/or chapters that He wants me to read. I have a study bible. I have a daily devotional. I think, sometimes, we just need discipline and we need to remember that we read to get closer to God.

We don't read to tick a box off a chore list or to feel that we did something which is 'better than nothing'.

Could you wake a little earlier or go to bed a little later and spare some time with God?

I lock myself into a private room at night and pray and then read some of the bible. There are study guides out there that might assist, too? I'm sure lots of people can recommend some but in the meantime, I find this site useful: Our Daily Bread Ministries

I think reading verses are okay but sometimes verses are just snapshots of a broader context and I'm not sure how you can obtain understanding with small snapshots each day. Personally, I'd probably forget what I read by the next day but maybe you're better at this than me..ha.
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Am I Saved?

Perhaps you are not associated with any Christian congregation that has a body of overseers that you can reach out to. Is that the case? James 5:14, 15
Thank you very much for your help!

I am new to church and not really acquainted with how to approach elders or seeking help, in general, but I will keep this in mind when I attend and maybe pray for the courage to seek help via the elders when God views this as the best approach.

I really don't know how to go about doing anything without seeking God first i.e. I have never asked humanity for assistance so it will be a leap for me to learn how to do so but I am willing if it is Gods will/instruction.

Thank you!
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Pope Leo XIV Says “No One Possesses the Entire Truth”

For what it is worth, my (deceased) Presbyterian minister turned up one night in a very brief vision some time after I'd become Catholic and said "The Catholic Church is closest to the truth", with a distinct emphasis on the word "closest".

We had discussed Catholic / Protestant church differences when he was still alive. At the time he was becoming fed up with Protesant divisions.

Note that he did not say "has all the truth". He distinctly said "... closest ....

For what it is worth. Private revelation obviously.
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ICE agent arrested for pulling gun on California teen, lawyer says

RIVERSIDE COUNTY, Calif. (KTLA) — A California man who reportedly works as a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent is accused of illegally detaining a minor at gunpoint while off duty last week.

The Nov. 10 incident, according to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department, played out at around 10:30 pm outside a home in Temecula.

Attorney Greg Kirakosian, who represents the boy and his family, told Nexstar’s KTLA that the 17-year-old was driving home after dropping a friend off down the street when he saw the suspect, identified by investigators as Gerardo Rodriguez, pointing a gun at his vehicle and demanding he pull over.

“In the moment, I think he was just scared for his life. He had a gun pulled on him, and he was told to immediately stop or else,” Kirakosian explained, referring to the teen. “Then that same person came up to his driver’s side door and pulled him out at gunpoint.”

Someone not in police uniform pulling a gun on a driver at night sounds like a carjacking. Perhaps the driver should have kept going.

Also - "Gerardo Rodriguez"? Sounds foreign. Better put him in a camp until we establish his immigration status.

Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

If you insist on equating a love and reverence for God and His Holy Word as hatred for ones neighbor, by all means, carry on.
Just looking at what is actually being done to the neighbors by the positions Del. Nothing personal. It's just how you happen to see it, but that doesn't mean it adds up
You seem to freely pick and choose whatever words suit your narrative at any given time, so I see no point in discussing this topic any further.
My observations are pretty simple in this regards:

Love neighbors does not equate to promoting them to be burned alive forever for not believing like you.

I'd be embarrassed to try to pin my so called faith in that when faith supposedly works through love and love neighbors

Burning people alive forever is NOT done by faith
As I previously stated, God will do as He pleases.
Fortunately God is quite a bit better than the sum of us
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SO HOW DO YOU KNOW YOU ARE SAVED ??

And all that you quote ANY verse is correct but not ALL is for us. !!
Every Word of God is for everyone Dan, Matt. 4:4, Luke 4:4, Deut. 8:3

I'm sure if you spent decades thinking otherwise you wouldn't get it

You appear to be fixated on an aspect or 2 for some odd reason which usually happens when believers try to justify themselves for exercising certain activities stipulated in the scriptures

Better to start at saved by unmerited Divine Mercy and Grace and leave it at that
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The Miraculous Medal Novena

Day 5... 11/22/25

O Immaculate Virgin Mary, Mother of Our Lord Jesus and our Mother, penetrated with the most lively confidence in your all-powerful and never-failing intercession, manifested so often through the Miraculous Medal, we your loving and trustful children implore you to obtain for us the graces and favors we ask during this Novena, if they be beneficial to our immortal souls, and the souls for whom we pray.

(Privately form your petitions here.)

You know, O Mary, how often our souls have been the sanctuaries of your Son who hates iniquity. Obtain for us, then, a deep hatred of sin and that purity of heart, which will attach us to God alone so that our every thought word and deed may tend to his greater glory. Obtain for us also a spirit of prayer and self-denial, that we may recover by penance what we have lost by sin, and at length attain to that blessed abode where you are the Queen of angels and of men. Amen.
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Weekly homilies

Homily Sunday, November 23, 2025

Christ the King



2 Samuel 5:1-3

The tribes of Israel said to David: "The Lord said to you (David): 'You shall shepherd my people Israel; you shall be ruler over Israel.'"



It is marvelous when the Lord speaks to our hearts.



The tribes of Israel came to David and reminded him of what the Lord had said.



Then they anointed him king.



Colossians 1:12-20

"Giving thanks to the Father, who has made you fit to share in the inheritance of the holy ones in light."



Thank you, Lord, for loving us; we praise you, Alleluia. Thank you for your love that passes into my heart to the hearts of my family, my friends, and humanity.



Luke 23:35-43 (White)

Jesus is the king who lives in the kingdom, the Heart of God, and he reigns at this moment.



The thief says of Jesus: "This man has done nothing criminal."



This short sentence is crucial: He who keeps himself away from evil is in God.



Jesus says to the thief: "Today you will be with me in Paradise." In the present tense: "You are with me in Paradise."



At this moment, we are with God in Paradise. It depends on us to know this and to remain in God's joy.



Biblical texts: NAB-RE

Normand Thomas.
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