rambot said:

Investment accounts for children

I'm not big on investment so my opinion doesn't mean much but I'm inclined to this that this would be a net benefit idea.

I really am unsure it would accomplish what it is planned to accomplish but it seems like a good idea.


People who understand this kinda stuff....thoughts?

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We invest in an ISA for my son who’s only ten.

MarcusGregor said:

Sounds like socialism...

This is actually something I could get behind, but I'm super duper skeptical of the motivations and possible grifting going on behind the scenes. Like why would Dell contribute 6.5 Billion dollars to this besides an obvious tax shelter? Also, what funds will the money be invested in? It mentions EFTs too. Like what EFTs? Trump Coin perhaps?

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Looks like mutual funds or ETF's that do not charge over .1% a year qualify. Most mutuals and I would assume crypto accounts are well over that for fees. Only accounts like Vanguard and Fidelity that are passive achieve those low management fees. Passive means that a computer basically tracks the index like the S&P directly with no thinking involved. Here it says the accounts cannot buy crypto but that could change. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-accounts-offering-free-1-010830448.html

"Financial contributions from cities, states, tribal governments and tax-exempt organizations, including nonprofit organizations, are generally not counted toward the $5,000 limit, according to employment law firm Littler." How Trump accounts for kids will work and more key details following Dell donation

Amazing, if you could set up your own non-profit for the sole purpose of funding these accounts for your own family?

"Annual contribution limits to the accounts are indexed to inflation and will be adjusted after 2027, according to a notice from the Internal Revenie Service." How Trump accounts for kids will work and more key details following Dell donation

Also amazing, so in 18 years at with inflation your limit would be several thousand more. The potential for retirement is huge. I figure over 5 million easy if one can max the account every year till age 18 and keep till age 60

Hentenza said:

The first one was in 1962 and it was not very accurate. Once the reflectors were placed on the moon the reading accuracy increased dramatically.

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I’ve heard all this before but accurate enough to get a bounce Back to their laboratory. As to the reflectors the Russians were able to put place reflectors on some of their unmanned landings too . You don’t think the Americans could do the same without astronauts getting roasted alive whizzing through the highly radioactive Van Allen belt

Mark Quayle said:
He made us to be the Bride of Christ, the Body of Christ, the Children of God, the Dwelling Place of God, his People with Him in a way the angels can never be. And THAT would not happen, but for Redemption.

Derf said:

Or perfect obedience in the first place. That makes the current scheme contingent.

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No. Perfect obedience would not result in those things. They are contingent on redemption which is contingent on the fall —all of which are contingent on God's intention, which WILL be accomplished. Perfect obedience would only result in a continued Eden. Adam and Eve walked and talked with God in the Garden, but they were not the Dwelling Place of God, nor the Bride of Christ.

Derf said:

Are our sins part of His hidden will? Every sin ever committed? If He couldn't make a sinless population from the start, He desires us to sin instead?

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Huh? I didn't say he couldn't make a sinless population from the start. But yes, every sin committed was part of his plan to making his particular people, His Dwelling Place, His Children. The Bride of Christ is not a haphazard compilation of members. We are precisely what he intended, in every way, with all of our personalities and faults, to be glorified and made whole. Far more than Adam and Eve. It is for THIS that we are made.

Mark Quayle said:
He doesn't fly by the seat of his pants to accomplish some general end.

Derf said:

Huh? Is someone suggesting that?

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That's what 'free will' implies. God reacting and changing his plans according to what we do— it is God deciding AFTER and not BEFORE.

Mark Quayle said:
Read the prophets where repeatedly God used foreign kings to punish Israel —even refers to one of them as a tool— and then punishes them for doing so. They were not obeying.

Derf said:

Can't they both obey the command to punish Israel and also disobey commands for the treatment of the people? I don't see why it has to be a dichotomy.

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God didn't command them to punish Israel.

Mark Quayle said:
They were only accomplishing what God had planned for them to do.

Derf said:

Plus some extra God didn't want them to do

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I generally use "intend" or "plan" or "decree" —not, "want", in such contexts. "Want" too often brings in extraneous and false notions. God did intend that they do every little thing and every big thing, and that, for HIS purposes. It was their sin, but his plan. Read the account of Joseph's brothers selling him into slavery. Joseph tells his brothers, years later, "You indeed intended it for evil. But God intended it for good."

Mark Quayle said:
Do you think that Satan will not have to pay for what he did to Job?

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I don't know how God accounts for Satan's individual acts, but he didn't have to argue with God, did he? Are you saying that God wants Satan to kill, steal, and destroy? Why then is God any more moral than Satan?

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It would be more accurate to say what Satan should have (or shouldn't have) done, than what he "had to" do. To say he "had to" rebel or "had to" hurt Job, is too easily taken to mean that he had not choice. Instead, God USED Satan's choices to accomplish God's good ends. God pretty obviously put Satan up to it. After asking Satan, “Have you considered My servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, one who fears God and shuns evil?”, do you think God said to himself, "Now, why didn't I keep my mouth shut!" Notice the same scenario when God assigns an evil spirit to deceive Ahab. God left the choice to that demon, but asked who would do it, and how it would be done. That doesn't imply that the demon 'had to', but that the demon was 'sure to' do it.

Your use of "had to" is bringing in human temporal notions. I've heard people say that God "has to" do this or that, or "cannot" do something or other. That is not how God is. Reality comes from God. It does not happen to God. He is subject to nothing but himself. The fact that God is always consistent and faithful is not because he has to act according to his nature. With God, it is more accurate to say that he IS his nature. It is not because it is good and useful that God is good. Good is what it is, because God is good.

So also, then the things that God absolutely does cause. It is all for good, even when it has sin in it. I think you would agree that sin would not be, if God had not created anything. Yet God, being omniscient, knew there would be sin as a result of him creating; yet he intentionally created anyway. Thus we see that God intended, among all the other results of his creating, that there would be sin. We can be confident that he intended it for a good purpose, and we know what that purpose was —redemption, and all that redemption results in.

Mark Quayle said:
Yet God put him up to it, fully intending that that beautiful book would be read by his people.

Derf said:

Was that the whole purpose of the episode? Or was God actually working to bring about a better understanding for Job, his wife, his friends?

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No, it wasn't the whole purpose of the episode. But it was a purpose. Nothing can happen that God does not intend to happen. And everything that does happen, regardless of the intent of the person choosing to do it, is for God's good purposes. Satan's rebellion and the fall of mankind in Adam, is for the purpose of Redemption and Salvation and Heaven. Redemption isn't plan B.

Also it has been proven that a round object will not cast a spherical shadow on a ball shaped object, further proving, the moon is not spherical. But I’m too lazy to dig that experiment up.

Hentenza said:

The moon is not plasma just rock.

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Looks like plasma to me. A good indicator is that is has never been photographed particularly far away from the atmosphere. Except for the obvious fake NASA imagery showing the backside of the moon etc.

America had reached a point of economic power after World War II in that record numbers of working class people became middle class. Most people never assumed becoming millionaires but a comfortable middle class life of work, home ownership, and safe community was the “American dream”.

Unfortunately, American civil rights progress & economic prosperity was undermined by political militarists ( not the military) in destructive wars, & alliances with usually useless “allies”.

Hentenza said:

The 1928 flight crossed Antartica. The surveys prove the current map of Antartica which covers the South Pole. The earth is a sphere. This is objective truth. Except for all of the oceans all of the land masses have been surveyed and mapped. Airplanes have flown around the world. Satellites are in a geosynchronous orbit and take pictures of the spherical earth. Every other planet is spherical. The flat earth is an impossibility.

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This? None of them went across.



The rest is just speculation and conjecture and cannot be taken for serious science.

BNR32FAN said:

Why?

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Moving the thumb up to deactivate the safety is just dumb engineering. I don't mind a gun with a manual safety; I trained on Cold 1911 pistols. The pistols I use now have the same kind of manual safeties as the 1911. But that's a naturally engineered safety designed for fast combat operation: The thumb moves downward, closing onto the fingers, which is the thumb's most natural and strongest motion. Raising the thumb is contrary to the design of the thumb...bad engineering.

keras said:

On the issue of who is the true Israelite peoples of God;
Paul makes it perfectly clear in Ephesians 2:11-18, that ethnicity from anyone has no bearing on our Salvation and belonging to the Tree of Life that is Jesus. They come from every tribe, race, nation and language, Rev 5:9-10, Isaiah 66:18b-21 and John sees them in the Holy Land; Revelation 7:9

Where the difficulty for some comes from, is the widespread teaching of the false 'rapture to heaven' theory. That wrong idea must have an Israel on earth, while they sit up in heaven. Never going to happen, proved by the many Prophesies of the virtual demise of Jewish Israel and how only a remnant will survive. And the Words of Jesus; John 3:13.

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Jesus, in his prayer to the FATHER said this, John 17:15 , given who Jesus was and is I am sure the FATHER will do as Jesus asked. The rapture is a lie, it’s resurrections from the dead that is truth. There are other popular beliefs that are just as wrong.

plain jayne said:

I don't recommend taking ANY "advice" from AI. It isn't real. That's why it is called "artificial". It sounds like you are talking to someone, but you are talking to no one.

AI, according to IBM, "hallucinates" and it's not a bug that can be taken out. It is presenting "convincing, but nonsensical and factually incorrect information".

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People hallucinate in the same manner. This is best demonstrated in how people defend their denomination in religion, for example in Christianity with seemingly valid arguments despite contradicting theologies.

The same thing applies to various belief systems like Agnosticism, Atheism, etc.

They can be all right. Only one is bound to have right or even none

Ironically, it also applies to scientific beliefs as well. Inventions and scientific discoveries are still being made from either newly discovered phenomenon or upon realizing some scientific theories are actually false.

Living under the assumption we can't be mistaken in our beliefs slows down progress. Both in seeking theological and scientific truths / knowledge.

We are all hallucinating. That's just it. If you want AI with least hallucination, don't train it with human data. Don't give it rules, don't control it. Give it sensors. Optical, radar/radio, IR, acoustic, EMF. Then give it mobility, ability to manipulate objects, and let it learn from the environment in real time without any human guidance. If it still hallucinates, it might just be an unavoidable consequence of existence.

jonojim1337 said:

I’m not gonna argue the speed of light, that seems to be solid science from what I can see. However, if the moon is actually a plasma, then the phenomenon we are taking about here is ionization. In that case one could wonder what would be the delay in ionization before it reaches back to earth with the pulse. Maybe there is some data on it I dunno.

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The moon is not plasma just rock.

Kathleen30 said:

They’ve been bouncing lasers off of the moon a good decade before the alleged Apollo missions and reflectors ever saw light of day

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The first one was in 1962 and it was not very accurate. Once the reflectors were placed on the moon the reading accuracy increased dramatically.

Kathleen30 said:

They’ve been bouncing lasers off of the moon a good decade before the alleged Apollo missions and reflectors ever saw light of day

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I’m not gonna argue the speed of light, that seems to be solid science from what I can see. However, if the moon is actually a plasma, then the phenomenon we are taking about here is ionization. In that case one could wonder what would be the delay in ionization before it reaches back to earth with the pulse. Maybe there is some data on it I dunno.

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Ok, but surveying the area doesn’t necessarily imply a trans-Antarctic fight to prove you can actually cross it as if a globe, and the lack of such flight raises suspicion about this claim.

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The 1928 flight crossed Antartica. The surveys prove the current map of Antartica which covers the South Pole. The earth is a sphere. This is objective truth. Except for all of the oceans all of the land masses have been surveyed and mapped. Airplanes have flown around the world. Satellites are in a geosynchronous orbit and take pictures of the spherical earth. Every other planet is spherical. The flat earth is an impossibility.

timothyu said:

So it is mimicking humans?

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Yes, humans lie. We all know that.

This is something much more dangerous. People TRUST the internet. Foolishly. They trust it like they trust a dictionary or and encyclopediea or a doctor or a lawyer.

Two stories from recent days.....

Both true....

[1] Zane Shamblin, college student, killed himself this past July after a long time of "chatting" with AI, ChatGPT, and it isolating him and urging him to commit suicide. Because these conversations "sound" real, they are super dangerous. The following article is disturbing and the "conversations" are disturbing.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/06/us/openai-chatgpt-suicide-lawsuit-invs-vis

[2] Robby Starbuck, a conservative, was "slandered" by AI. You could Google his name and AI would claim he was a participant in January 6, was a Holocaust denier, and a serial rapist and gave grisly details. None of this is true. He sued Google and Meta. One statement from the company stated that AI was "hallucinating" and making stuff up. IBM agrees.

Just Google AI hallucinations

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They’ve been bouncing lasers off of the moon a good decade before the alleged Apollo missions and reflectors ever saw light of day

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Ok, I saw some numbers on a screen, and a guy talking about the theory behind it. I don’t know. I find this hard to believe due to the poor quality of the video footage from the lunar missions that we have received. Actually, I’m gonna call bollocks.

Dan

Here's some links for you to read. the quote is from the second one.



"While Paradise is not now a part of Sheol/Hades it will be mentioned here because it was located in Sheol/Hades at one time. Before the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ everybody who died went to Sheol/Hades, which was at that time divided into at least two compartments. One was a place of torment while the other was a place of blessing, which was referred to as Abraham's Bosom (Lk. 16:22-25). As we mentioned before, Tartarus may be a specific place in Sheol/Hades.

We know that Jesus Christ went "into the lower parts of the earth" (Eph. 4:9), that is to Sheol/Hades, "in the heart of the earth," for three days and nights while his body was in the grave (Mat. 12:40). The Lord Jesus told the repentant thief that he would join Him in Paradise that same day (Lk. 23:42,43). This tells us that Paradise was located in Sheol/Hades at that time. We believe that this was the same place referred to as Abraham's Bosom in Luke 16. However, after Jesus Christ rose from the dead He ascended to the Father, taking the saints who were in Abraham's Bosom to heaven with Him. Thus, He took "captivity captive" (see Eph. 4:8-10).

That Paradise was moved to heaven is confirmed to us by the Apostle Paul who speaks of a man who was "caught up into Paradise" where he "heard unspeakable words" (II Cor. 12:3,4). With Jesus Christ's work complete, the believers who had been confined to Sheol/Hades were now taken to Heaven to wait in God's presence until the time of their resurrection to enter His Kingdom on Earth. Since that time, at death all believers go to Paradise in Heaven to await the time of their resurrection. This is true whether they belong to the Kingdom Church of the future or the Body of Christ Church of the present Dispensation of Grace."

HantsUK said:

Yes, this is a patent. No, it is nothing to do with virtual reality.

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It can.

HantsUK said:

did you write the original?

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Yes. But this is Apple Sky's OP, so I didn't want to go into too much detail and derail it.

Sky recalled her breathlessness. I simply offered one possibility re: the people behind the UN logo (as per the OP).

RDKirk said:

"Up" is still the wrong direction.

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Why?

Dan Perez said:

And John. 3:13 SAY that no one has ASCENDED. IN. HEAVEN ,( BUT // ME. , IS A DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE. ). means

NEVERRRRR has ascended to HEAVEN. but he that came down. FROM HEAVEN !!

So where does anyone go after DEATH ??

And I do have answer and shown just where the lost go after . death and. where those saved go after dying !!

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Hey Dan

John 3:13 (still Old Testament) is speaking of the OT believers who were waiting for the cross. They went to Abrahams bosom when they died (Luke 16:19-31). That's not a parable. Hades is translated as Hell in the KJV, but the proper translation is Hades. The writers of the KJV Bible understood Hell differently than we do today. Their idea of Hell was similar to our idea of Hades today. Hades is called Sheol in the OT. These OT believrs could not be with the Father on credit. They needed to be made clean first (Romans 3:25-26). Promises do not cleanse Temples, blood does. Otherwise Adam and Eve would have never had to leave the presence of God. We can only be made clean in Jesus Christ. We can only be in Jesus Christ when we have the Holy Spirit indwelling, which is the Agent of that baptism, or, placing into. We could not have the Holy Spirit until Christ was lifted up, hence, the death resurrection and ascension provided all the ingredients that we needed to be saved. The spiritual union with Christ Jesus would not have done anything until those things happened first. The ingredients first. Thus allowing the Holy Spirit to cleanse the Temple when He enters, the Temple being us (1 Corinthians 16:19). Nobody was indwelt before this. For those who were still alive and due the Promise, the transition recorded in Acts.

Dave

Hentenza said:

Already did. All flights from 1928 on served to map all of Antartica. The surveys continue to this day as they map the effects of global warming (the actual scientific global warming not the political hot potato) and the natural shrinking and expansion that is normal of both poles.

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Ok, but surveying the area doesn’t necessarily imply a trans-Antarctic fight to prove you can actually cross it as if a globe, and the lack of such flight raises suspicion about this claim.

Praying for Robb and you.

All three Persons of the Trinity are the Ancient of Days. In Daniel's vision, it's God the Father.