Would Trump defend Australia if we were attacked? We HAD a big purchase deal worked out... but....
- By Kathleen30
- American Politics
- 104 Replies
You ask from where I make these bizarre assertions ? You then mention Biden’s green tech miracle flooding the viecle
With what evidence do you make these bizarre assertions? Manufacturing industry in green tech was FLOODING in under Biden's IRA - a big carrot enticing manufacturing back? EG: By 2030 America would have been manufacturing so many batteries that they could have (hypothetically) powered every new car as a 100% EV bought in the USA!
These batteries will however be split through different sectors - also - businesses don't know WHAT to invest in or do from day to day because of Trump's chaotic and ever changing tariffs.
I'm not sure what you are asking about? We are an interdependent country like most in the modern world. Human beings are social creates - and being a mature adult is not about independence like some lone wolf - but appropriate empowered interdependence. Adam Smith explained trade in similar terms - that we all get richer when we trade.
SURE - if there's even a hint of geopolitical concerns about trusting the supply lines - I say subsidise or even NATIONALISE the thing!
But generally speaking, democracies get along - and trade according to the WTO - and we all get a bit wealthier under this system. I'm a greenie and would LOVE to see faster action on climate, less trading of fossil fuels, etc. But generally - although not perfect - although often corrupted by this or that lobby group or agenda - generally speaking the system sort of works.
Until Trump.
Nope. I'm with Malcolm Turnbull. One has to stand up to a bully. Trump sees himself as the 'big daddy' of the world - and is using tariffs to make sure every world leader flies over to 'kiss the ring'. They're really just giving him "Narcissistic Supply" - feeding his psychological disorder. He doesn't have friends - he has what psychiatrists call "Flying Monkey's" - those who serve the wicked witch! That's his team of "yes" men and women gathering around and applauding everything he says.
Even if Trump suddenly dies of a heart attack - the fact that America elected him repeatedly - and knowingly - means they have changed. Until such time as there is a profound cultural shift that disses crazy tinfoil hat stuff and respects the REALITY of climate change, Covid, long-term security arrangements, etc, Australia should trade with more reliable partners. And that also includes mutual defence pacts.
And after thinking about it deeply - I'm not sure we should join America if they defend Taiwan. I hate that China wants Taiwan. I hate that a democracy could fall! But unlike Putin - who has repeatedly stated he dreams of restoring the old USSR - China might actually stop with Taiwan. And with Trump being so 'America first' and 'no more overseas wars' - I wonder if China will mistake that for a green light to GO on Taiwan?
Eclipse you state from what evidence do I make these bizarre claims ??? Well Eclipse perhaps you should seek closer to home in Australia on that matter. where you actually have a kingship . You know like the king of the British commonwealth and maybe leave there than following mere mindless assumptions of mad hatters thinking that’sPresident Trump would ever want to be a king. Yes leave those thoughts where they belong. And that being In ga ga land . That’s all I say.Eclipse you then mention Biden’s green tech industry pouring in with the possibility of having every vehicle powered by battery by 2030. Perhaps a persons choice what they desire would have been a better option. I just luv the feel of a gear stick at full throttle and the reliability of juice injected power to hit the spot namely what is know as fuel to get me from A to B. When thinking upon battery driven cars they have their place . But to have the entire American economy run by battery powered vehicles by 2030 would be an impossibility. Considering the infrastructure required for such a endeavour with charging stations and how long it takes to recharge a vehicle. And of course there was the reliability of the very few charging stations that they did complete. Quite a number failed to deliver what they claimed . If the policy had been followed to completion and had not been changed by the present government . Than the American economy would have ceased to function.
As to trade. Well there is nothing wrong with trade within itself. But at the same time you don’t give up your essential industries Now Eclipse where is the Australian car manufacturing industry today. Gone forever it seems. Ford Australia and Holden be no more . BHP is no longer Australian owned but majority foreign owned. A portion of our waterways and dams are foreign owned such as the Murray Darling basin. And even our good old Commo bank now be foreign owned that’s all I say when thinking upon trade and ownership and sovereignty of one’s own nation . So you be a admirer of the Malcom Turnbull. Ok. Malcom’s dislike of Trump is well known. And you also claim that President Trump be mentally ill too. On the other hand it seems to me that you may suffer from Trump derangement syndrome also. Seems Trump derangement syndrome is not immune from Australia. As to president Trump being daddy that is what others claim of him. Trump has never claimed that of himself As to climate change . Eclipse climate change happens everyday. Mother Earth has her ways . Humanity dosnt really get to have a opinion on that. That be in the hands of God. But if you want go with all Al Gores predictions of doom and gloom we should have been all toasted some 15 yrs ago . And what of the the expanding holes in the ozone layer that they all screamed about it in the 80s blaming humanity’s pollution once more for the deed ? It turned out as truth eventually caught up with the lie that it was a natural reoccurring yearly event where both poles expanding or decreasing at different times of the year. You now hear nothing of the matter today . So I would be more careful with what the environmental movement and greenies claim all in the name of the environment. Manufacturing climate is a big business. Something to think about. As to Trump setting off a war. Seems to me he has done everything to prevent war although his outlook on the Gaza situation does leave much to be desired and one has many reservations. How much leeway does Israel get considering 50 thousand Palestinians now lay dead with all their infrastructure destroyed compared to Israel’s some 1300 dead . How much blood does Israel demand ?You do mention the question of Taiwan. Is it a acceptable sacrifice to make and cede Taiwan to the communists to preserve peace. Firstly Taiwan is not as Hong Kong under a 99 yr lease given unto the British after the opium wars with China commencing in 1898 and transpiring in 1997 . The Taiwan situation is entirely different. They be the remnant of the Chinese nationalist people they never surrendered and refused communist rule . If we take that path then why not give up my ancestral homeland of South Korea to communism rule too. That all me write for now . I do wish you a pleasant Saturday evening in your Sydney. Regards Kathleen
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