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Tim Walz Vows to Bring More Somalis to Minnesota, Despite Growing Fraud Scandal Reaching Into the Billions

The data are the data and confirms the Somalian immigrants tend to commit the sin crime of being poor.
The data shows that a majority of Somalian immigrants in Minnesota are living off of government funded programs.
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Ellen White on the mark of the beast for those that worship on Sunday

Jesus is focused on the heart of the matter, the harden heart of man, if the heart is changed, the least of these commandments would be kept as Jesus taught plainly Mat5:19, not changing a jot or tittle of His Law Mat5:18 because the law is not the issue Psa19:7 Rom7:12, the harden heart of man is.

Yes, Jesus is trying to free us from the bondage of sin, but that would mean keeping the law of God, not breaking the least of these commandments Mat 5:19 why its the law of liberty, free from sin James2:11-12 transformed through our love for Jesus and the Holy Spirit John14:15-18.
I may be misunderstanding you, but it seems to assume that those who understand the Sabbath as being fulfilled through resting in Christ are therefore disobeying God. I don’t believe that conclusion necessarily follows. Scripture teaches that our ultimate rest is found in Christ Himself (Hebrews 4:9–10), and many sincere believers seek to honor God from that place of faith and trust, not disregard for His commands.

When we apply the law in a strictly literal way without considering its fulfillment in Christ, we should also be careful to examine how consistently we apply it. For example, the second commandment warns against making images (Exodus 20:4–5), yet most of us recognize that the heart of this command is about idolatry rather than the mere presence of artwork. This reminds me that all of us depend on grace and must approach these discussions with humility.

This tension is not new. In the Gospels, the Pharisees accused Jesus of breaking the Sabbath because His disciples picked grain and because He healed on that day (Matthew 12:1–8; John 5:16–18). Jesus responded by showing that the Sabbath was given as a gift, not a burden, and that “the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath” (Mark 2:27–28). His concern was always mercy, life, and faith, not legalistic rule-keeping.

My hope is that we can keep Christ at the center of this conversation, remembering that salvation and obedience flow from Him, not from our ability to perfectly interpret or apply the law (Galatians 2:16; John 15:5).

It’s important to remember that even among those who honor the Sabbath, there is a wonderful diversity in how it is observed. Some may focus on traditional practices, while others seek to rest in Christ and trust in His work for them. Both approaches, when done with sincere hearts, are ways of honoring God.


Keeping the Sabbath by resting in Christ is not inherently “less” faithful than other expressions—it’s simply another way of entering into the rest and renewal that God intends for His people (Hebrews 4:9–10). Our focus can be on encouraging one another in Christ, rather than measuring or comparing the forms of Sabbath observance.
While I agree love is what transforms and obedience flows though the heart, yet you still teach it doesn’t matter if God said Remember on one of these commandments, its okay to forget what God said to Remember and keep Exo20:8-11 if we love Him. Exo20:6 John14:15. If your earthy father asked something that was important to him and said son, please remember this, would it be an act of love to forget it, or keep what he said in our heart and do. Why treat our Heavenly Father any different. Jesus certainly never taught we do not have to keep the Sabbath, He taught we can do evil on the Sabbath Mark3:4 not changing anything He said previously Isa 56:2 Neh 13:17 because God does not change. While I like a lot of what you say, Mat5:19 tells us not to break or teach others to break the least of these commandments and that would include the commandment God said Remember, that is holy and blessed by God, that no man can take away the Blessing of God, because man is not God.

It’s probably best for me to agree to disagree and all will get sorted out in God’s time.
Disagreement in how we observe the Sabbath is not a problem as long as it is not accompanied by judgment. If you choose to refrain from certain activities on Saturday to honor God, that is truly a blessed thing. Likewise, if your neighbor begins the Sabbath a few hours earlier to align with Israel, doing so out of love for God, that is also pleasing to Him. And if someone else rests in Christ every day of the week, out of faith and devotion, who are we to label that as disobedience? God sees the heart, and it is the heart of faith and love that matters most (1 Samuel 16:7; Romans 14:5–6).

Anything we do for God out of obligation counts for nothing. Anything we do out of love for God counts for everything.
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Why Is It So Hard for Christians to Talk About Justice and Greed?

Much of the good that is done and that we enjoy in any given society or nation is due to people of good will joining together in united concerns and efforts.
And most often aside from institutions, be they political or Christians in name.
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Anybody know if Rob Reiner is okay?

The "nitpick" response would that the deaths happened under two different sets of circumstances and motives.


That aside, Rob Reiner seemed to be of a mindset similar to mine with regards to "why should we have to pretend to respect someone we had no respect for just because they died?"


Rob Reiner Circa 2021 (the day after Rush Limbaugh died):
Rush Limbaugh is gone. But there is no scarcity of other purveyors of disinformation like him left in his wake. To protect our Democracy we must remain vigilant in calling out their big lies. Starting with climate change.

— Rob Reiner (@robreiner)
February 18, 2021


Gooses and Ganders and all that jazz... Seems Reiner wasn't opposed to taking the death of a political rival (who injected themselves into politics) and using that as a basis for making a political statement of their own.


It's funny because I remember linking that in the Limbaugh thread when it happened (because I was also bashing Limbaugh), and then this same kind of conversation happened all over again when Dick Cheney died.
Well Ive always said, Rob Reiner is not my president!

Even so, he was right on about Rush.
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Why Is It So Hard for Christians to Talk About Justice and Greed?

I think that it is summarized in love your others as you love yourself. And do what you can to help where you can. I do not believe in getting involved in the politics of social justice
Yes, well, I can only say that we won't much get much done as a society of one- in terms of coloring our surroundings Christian in colors. Much of the good that is done and that we enjoy in any given society or nation is due to people of good will joining together in united concerns and efforts.
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Concerns About the Foundations of the Gentile Christian Movement in Acts 15

Paul never quotes Yeshua at all other than 2 Cor 12:8-9,
What about Acts 20:35?
Paul never quotes Yeshua at all other than 2 Cor 12:8-9, where the context is questionable anyway. Since when does Satan have a duty to buffet people for being prideful? He is the very author of pride from the very beginning, if you look at Isaiah 14:12-14 and Ezekiel 28:17.
Well, whether or not he has a "duty" . . . may be he does not like the competition . . . or is perceiving there is competition, from Paul, perhaps.

Also, he is the accuser, yes or no? So, he would feel compelled to attack Paul, in order to make him look bad as an apostle.

And we have how the LORD gave Satan permission to go after Job. In that case Satan was trying to prove that Job was not for real. And Job was at times accused of pride, if I remember correctly, by his friends. So, Satan might have *perceived* that Job had pride and would break down if things did not go his way.

Paul seems to say he was buffeted so that he would not become puffed-up. And I see how Satan would be the one to so test him, since God and His honorable people would not do bad things to Paul. So, maybe Satan had permission. And . . . by the way . . . doesn't it say Paul pleaded three times for the thorn thing to leave Paul? So, may be it was getting the better of his pride . . . somehow > that "thorn" "messenger of Satan" could have been a demon with various powers so that evil being could work Paul over to find his weak spots, then stick it to him and his pride that had him trying to handle problems on his own. But then he had a little talk with Jesus, who told him he could be sufficient against any problem, by trusting and obeying Yeshua in His grace. This grace is almighty with God's own immunity against howsoever a Satanic being would try to affect Paul. So, once Paul stayed submissive to Yeshua in God's grace, then was when Paul could even take "pleasure" in any problem > 2 Corinthians 12:10. Because his pride was not trying to take over, plus pride was not making him weak so he could be injected with anger and shame from the thorn demon.
And since when did Yeshua extend his grace to cover the sin of pride?
Well, I would say He does not excuse pride, but His grace almighty is able to change our character so we are humble like Yeshua, instead.
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Kirk Cameron Takes Heat for His Annihilationist View on Hell

there is no enjoyment or freedom to act according to their desires.
Yet sin is nothing more than serving our own will over that of God's. Perhaps this place for the rejects is nothing more than a place they can desire all they want for self, but have no way to fulfill it.
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the Latin versus the Teutonic Brain

If what holds true within flora and fauna and applies to bugs and insects in the truly scientific world, then the different races may easily be called different species as well.
What two species of organism are still 99.9% genetically identical as humans are?
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the Latin versus the Teutonic Brain

There is a biological reality which is not a matter of opinion. But "race" in humans, is merely a cultural construct. That's why the number of "races" depends on what culture one is in.

There are no biological human races at all. But there can be as many cultural "races" as you want to imagine.

Of course it's a matter of opinion. Everything is.
No. There is an objective reality and we can learn about it. In this case, the Human Genome Project shows that there is more genetic variation within any human "race" you can define than there is between such "races." Hence, no biological human races. That is a myth.

And every bit of learning rests on the shoulders of someone who talked/wrote about it beforehand. From Religion to Science, it all depends upon the writers thereof... and upon the conclusions drawn by each of its hearers/readers.

And the conclusions depend upon the nature of the learner... whether he/she is willing to believe without proof, or not. Because like it or not, we are all standing on a house of cards built by people of differing character and having different motives for teaching. The very rules of science are man-made, so falling back upon the terms related to science simply means that you trust the man who put those laws into writing.
You're standing on epistemological quicksand.

Race is inborn, culture is learned = nature vs nurture.
There is no such thing as biological human race today. There was at one time. But humans are really good at sharing genes.

Even though findings from genetics and other sciences unequivocally refute biological conceptions of race, this erroneous viewpoint remains widespread among the general public. Why can’t scientists convince people that race isn’t biological?

Since the 1950s, scholars at universities have been spreading the message that race is a social construct – a way of categorizing people that society has devised – in this instance, based on the arbitrary criterion of skin colour. Genetic data clearly show that races are not separate genetic lineages, and that differences in skin colour are not indicative of underlying genetic divisions. Throughout history, humans have constantly interbred, mixing up our genes such that meaningful differences never arose.


The Human Genome Project revealed that there is no genetic basis for “race”. Humans are 99.9 percent identical at the DNA level, and researchers found more variation among individuals of the same race than between individuals of different races. No gene has been discovered that distinguishes one race from another, rendering attempts to attribute biology to race meaningless.
The Human Genome Project – Perspectives on Race and Racism in Health and Healthcare
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Why Is It So Hard for Christians to Talk About Justice and Greed?

Yet, in every embassy in the world, within the walls of the embassy the laws of the home nation prevail, not the laws of the host nation.
In every individual his own laws prevail, even when perceived to be the laws of the host nation-whether or not they really are. Conscience reigns supreme IOW-and has that right even when wrong,
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RFK Adjusts Hepatitis B Vaccine Recommendations; Democrats Lose Their Minds

How would you propose that I prove that someone is NOT doing something?

By doing what most rational people do - investigate and evaluate evidence. If you're not doing that, how exactly are you formulating your beliefs? Just deciding what is real on a whim and running with it?

The CDC publishes the data which they get from VAERS investigations. You can find the data for 5-11 year olds here, which was published in 2021 shorty after the vaccines were introduced for that age group.

So the question remains - exactly what are you claiming here? Are you claiming that no investigations were done at all? Because the published data contradicts that notion. The data was doctored? What reason do you have to believe that?

I don't anticipate that I will continue with this discussion, because I know that reasoning with conspiracy theorists is a fruitless effort. When someone doesn't need to present evidence for their claims, they are functioning on a completely different plane of existence than most of the population.
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Muslim man hailed as hero after wrestling Bondi attacker with his bare hands

Do you say the same about the shooters?
They are Pakistani, which is 96% Moslem. The younger man, Naveed Akram, had close ties to Isaac El Matari, a member of an Islamic State cell who was arrested in 2019.
The media has been strangely reluctant to state the religious affiliations of the terrorists.
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Why Is It So Hard for Christians to Talk About Justice and Greed?

Well, certainly we must exercise discernment here as not all social justice systems are necessarily equal-but that doesn’t mean we give up on it. And Jesus doesn't necessarily get specific but aside from His teachings He leaves us the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth and love who guides us into all truth. And yet even within Christianity we can have differences of opinion on the basics regarding the nature and will of God- which necessarily touches on this whole matter. Either way, based on God’s revealed love and justice we can extrapolate much regarding proper moral human behavior in the social setting.

A proper social justice system would be based on the recognition first of all that God is love and loves all humans, who're made in His image and likeness and are therefore inherently worthy of dignity and respect due to those facts alone. This implies the sanctity of life and the obligation to protect and preserve it to the greatest extent that can reasonalby be done. It would include the fact that marriage and family are the basis of society and must be protected. It should focus on helping the poor who're unable to raise themselves from poverty. It would support the dignity of work and worker’s right to fair pay and treatment. It would also recognize the oneness of all humanity and seek peace and justice for all. Even the subject of war is included here since at least humane restraints can be demanded in the waging of wars. Being a good steward of the earth is also part and parcel of social justice.
I think that it is summarized in love your others as you love yourself. And do what you can to help where you can. I do not believe in getting involved in the politics of social justice
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How Long have Humans Lived on Earth?

Since I already agree with your opening post (more or less), I will be hanging out here mostly to engage young-earth creationist defenses.

However …



That statement is false, I’m afraid, if it means that Scripture doesn’t narrate real events in space and time—because it does. Just off the top of my head: the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus. Literal history. Paul stakes the truth of the gospel on a public, datable event: “If Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is futile and your faith is empty” (1 Cor. 15:14).

Large portions of Scripture are historical, from patriarchal narratives to monarchic histories, from Babylonian exile to their eventual return, and so on. Luke explicitly frames his Gospel as an orderly “account of the things that have been fulfilled among us,” including “accounts passed on to us by those who were eyewitnesses” (Luke 1:1-4).

If by “historical” you mean exhaustive chronology, neutral description, or detached analysis, then it’s not historical. Scripture is theological, covenantal, and teleological. Events are narrated because of what God is doing with and through them, never because the author is trying to reconstruct the past for its own sake.

I think it would be a category mistake to treat “history” and “theology” as competing genres. (I am not saying that’s what you are doing, but it is often done around these parts.) In Scripture, history is theology. God reveals himself through acts, and those acts are interpreted within the text itself. Natural history is the stage upon which the drama of redemptive history unfolds, while it is redemptive history that reveals the meaning and purpose of natural history, all things pointing to Jesus Christ for the glory of God. Scripture contains real history, but it’s unique as a divinely authored, covenantally ordered witness to God’s redemptive acts, narrated for faith, obedience, and worship.

As for Genesis? I would call it a historical-covenantal account with symbolic narrative elements. Adam and Eve in a sacred sanctuary God prepared in Eden? Historical-covenantal. Its eastward orientation, God “walking” there, humanity “to serve and guard,” Adam made of dust, talking serpent, guarding cherubim? Symbolic narrative elements (a lot of temple architecture and language used elsewhere in Scripture).

John Bauer: “That statement is false, I’m afraid, if it means that Scripture doesn’t narrate real events in space and time—because it does. Just off the top of my head: the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus. Literal history. Paul stakes the truth of the gospel on a public, datable event… ”

You have hit the nail on the head here. I certainly do believe in the resurrection of Jesus. I was thinking primarily of the Old Testament when I said that scripture is not history. I complement you on this observation. It is true that the Gospel of Luke is considered to have good historical information in it. We don’t know exactly what year Jesus was born, or crucified, so the Gospels are uncertain on that point. The usual figure given is that Jesus was born in 4 BC and crucified in 29 AD, but that is not certain.

John Bauer: “If by ‘historical’ you mean exhaustive chronology, neutral description, or detached analysis, then it’s not historical. Scripture is theological, covenantal, and teleological.”

Even when we get past Genesis, it is difficult to fit Biblical events with what we know from other sources. Some claim that the Pharoah confronted by Moses in Exodus was Ramses II, but this is far from certain. Later, the “treasures of the Temple” were taken by Pharoah Shishek, but no one can identify Pharoah Shishek with any Pharoah known to Egyptologists.
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the Latin versus the Teutonic Brain

The usefulness of the term Indo-European (previously called Indo-German) seems to be a matter of opinion.
It's very well-documented. Indo-European is a linguistic group, not a genetic or cultural designation. "Indo-German" is a myth promoted by German nationalists and some white supremacists in America. Two different things.

Culturally-related... seems to be an oxymoron since multiculturalism took Europe off at the knees...
Darwin once remarked that if "savages" were to be brought to England, in a few generations, they'd be just like Englishmen. ("savages"meaning non-Europeans) Which is what happened. Real income seems to be better in nations open to other cultures, and not so good in nations that have erected barriers.
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What Jesus Said About Adam and Eve

All descended from one organism eh? So how do we rate a savior
God gave us a living soul and that made all the difference. This is important. While biology can show that human bodies evolved from other species, it has nothing at all to say about how we became living souls.
Creation is the product of intelligent design
It is disrespectful to demote God to a mere "designer." Limited creatures design. God creates.
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Kirk Cameron Takes Heat for His Annihilationist View on Hell

Yes. What would change from what they do here? Perhaps suffering to them would be being forced to do His will, but He doesn't seem to work that way
No, they cannot ‘merrily’ follow their own will in hell. The soul in judgment is fully under God’s justice and separated from His goodness. The torment is conscious and complete, there is no enjoyment or freedom to act according to their desires. Hell is the unavoidable consequence of sin against an infinitely holy God
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