My advice flee from all politics and parties

Hans Blaster said:

You claim to object to the presentation, yet, have made no claim to know how it is being presented.

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Another strawman.

I never claimed to object to any presentation.

I said that I would need to know how the information was presented before I could object to it being included in the book.

I said that I would not initially object to topics - like climate change - being presented in the book.

I would just need to see how the topic was being presented first.

Are you okay today? Do you drink coffee? Do you need more? Or Less? Or a nap?

Zaha Torte said:

You don't have the authority to dictate what we refer to ourselves as.

There are many people who do not believe that a "dude" named Jesus Christ ever existed - does that now mean we can tell all Christians that they are not what they claim to be?

I understand that in our delusional world where a "woman" can be anything someone wants it to mean - you could make this argument - but I exist in reality.

Whether or not you believe that Mormon ever existed does not matter - because my Church was not named after him - it was named after the Lord Jesus Christ.

People who hated the LDS Church labelled them "Mormons" because they did not want them to be associated with the Lord Jesus Christ.

I would encourage you to read the Book of Mormon to see for yourself if he ever existed - rather than rely on the testimony of others.

Sincerely study the Book of Mormon - pray about it in humility - having faith in Christ - and I know that the Holy Spirit will testify of the truthfulness of that book to you.

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Oh, I've read it. And " Joseph Smith Tells His
own Story".

Your thing about " authority" is vaguely amusing.

You can call yourselves any name you please with no
objections from me.


It was you, you who has neither authority nor capacity trying
to impose on others by what name we can call your religion.

Diamond7 said:

People know now that he likes to play with filthy, vile and disgusting women. Women that do inappropriate content are not really even a step up from the women out working the streets with her pimp watching all the time. I have heard that God can rescue, save, heal and deliver people from all of that. Maybe that goes along with the white house. I have heard about the desk they have in the oval office.

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WHAT?

Where is the proof he had intercourse w/ stormy?

There is none. He has not been convicted of that (it's not a crime, but it is a sin obviously).

BOTH of them have denied it.

Of course one of them keeps changing her story!

so that's telling (to say the least)

Desk trauma said:

I just want to stop honoring treason.

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I really admire your strong American patriotism. Does seem a little odd though, when your avatar is the U.S. flag defaced.

It would have been good if the UN had a resolution back in October 2023 for the Hamas leadership to be arrested to face an international court.

stevevw said:

I think this is misrepresenting the numbers. From what I understand around half of those killed were Hamas terrorists which seems to make sense considering that its Hamas that the Isrealis are mostly seeking out to kill and any civilians are those caught in the cross fire in trying to target Hamas.

Another factor that is not being destinguished is that many of the so called children killed are actually young males mostly under 18 or 16 years who are classed as children. They have been killed in combat fighting for Hamas as Hamas make kids into terrorists.

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We really won't know the answers to how many innocent civilians have been killed vs. terrorists until the conflict is over and investigators get into Gaza, but indications are that the number of women and children being killed is disproportional and, in my opinion, unacceptable.

Below is a portion of an interview with Dr. Adam Hamaway, a US Army veteran who's in Gaza right now, as he talks about what he is seeing.

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Hans Blaster said:

How so?

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You claimed that my argument could not be taken seriously because of how I chose to refer to the LGHDTV cult.

trophy33 said:

Thats a strange claim - why do you exclude lawyers from his sheep?

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You seem to see instructions as laws that you don't understand. In my opinion. You seem to believe that proverbs isn't God's instruction. That shows thay you don't yet understand God's will.

Hans Blaster said:

You call it an "ideology" and mock it, but you are mocking people even if you don't think you are.

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I cannot possibly agree with that because it is not true.

You can comment on an ideology without commenting on the people who happen to believe in said ideology.

Hans Blaster said:

They do not chose to be as they are.

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You have evidence that supports this conclusion?

SimplyMe said:

I think what you fail to realize is that these books, which had to be approved and were largely made for the wishes of the Texas Education Board, which is extremely right leaning to the point that no "liberal" presentation of the information in the books would be allowed. You also, even if the Texas School Board wasn't so far right politically, is the home of many of our oil and gas producing companies which will fight any attempts to blame them for climate change in the schools (and Houston is one of the areas where oil companies have the most presence, being the headquarters for 44 of the top oil and gas companies and having major operations centers for most of the other top companies).

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I will say it again - it depends on how the information is presented.

I don't know how these books presented the information and I never claimed to know.

Picking up on @chevyontheriver 's thoughts: If you want conservative and traditional, in the sense of conserving ancient Christian faith and practice, then the Orthodox churches and the Catholic Church are the obvious choices near you in Ukraine.

"Fundamentalist" tends to mean a kind of Protestant (in particular, a branch of American Protestantism that grew up in the early 20th century), so if you're looking for that, the answer would be different.

AlexB23 said:

You know what is really scary, there are churches (progressive ones) that support pro-choice sadly in 2024. Churches are becoming echo chambers to suit people's own doctrines, including pro-choice doctrines.

2 Timothy 4:3 (ESV): "For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions".

The verse basically says that some Christians (not all), especially modern churches, have gone so far from the Bible, that Cafeteria Christianity has become a thing in the past few decades.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/05/progressive-christians-abortion-jes-kast/590293/

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Being pro-choice isn't as scary as promoting a state church. Westen doesn't just say that Catholics should impose a state church if they are in the majority. He says that every government has a duty to the Roman Catholic church, no matte what the people think.

I'm not supporting the pro-choice position. I was on the email list of my local Democratic Party before I criticized Roe vs. Wade in a couple of letters to the editor. Now the Democrats no longer invite me to their fundraisers. I don't know what they gain by not inviting me to a fundraiser, but there it is.

Landon Caeli said:

I don't think that. I think a lot of our morals are genetically passed on, as natural instincts, and others through learning. Much in the same way as our free-will, to act and behave, are based on a combination of our biology in combination with 'learned' experiences:

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I broadly agree. I think different cultures interpret the tendicies imposed by our instincts in different ways, hence the clash between cultures; a great problem because instinct tells us "different is dangerous". Reason can counteract this, but there is shortage of reason in most humans.

trophy33 said:

Not necessarily. Being rich can also be because you have a successful business, good investments, well paid job, generational wealth etc.


Not necessarily. If you give to a poor alcoholic who immediately goes to buy another drink, you hardly give to Jesus.


Its a proverb, as already said. It does not constitute any moral law and sin.

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His sheep know his voice. Lawyers do not.

Laodicean60 said:

Were they traitors if Lincoln forgave them?

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Yes.

Laodicean60 said:

So the virtue signalers of the 21st century want to retry the case.

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I just want to stop honoring treason.

I can tell you about conservative and fundamentalist churches here in the US, but your profile says you're in Ukraine. Is it of any use to you if I list names like Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod or Southern Baptist (both American denominations)?

The past is gone and forgotten
but you, little flock, will never be forsaken

Every morning is a brand new start
You calm our fears. You give us the desires of our heart

You give us peace and simplicity
in the confusion around us, you guide us in mercy

We love you, Lord, because you heard our cry and plea
In the shadow of your wings, we dwell in safety

eleos1954 said:

Our conscienceness is unique to mankind ... machines can never obtain it. Machines don't know right from wrong and never will.

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reference?

Desk trauma said:

Yes, twentieth century people put up the statues and named the schools in honor of nineteenth century traitors.

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Were they traitors if Lincoln forgave them? So the virtue signalers of the 21st century want to retry the case.

JimR-OCDS said:

Lifesitenews lacks credibility, always has. It's purely anti-Pope Francis. Here's some evidence;

LifeSiteNews does harm with stories like 'Vatican financial scandal'

Distinctly Catholic: It is difficult to determine whether to even call attention to nonsense like LifeSiteNews' story on a "new Vatican financial scandal." But someone has to expose this fraud for what it is.

www.ncronline.org

Cardinal Burke corrects LifeSiteNews: 'I have never worked with Steve Bannon'

In a statement today, Cardinal Raymond Burke issued a correction to a now-removed LifeSiteNews article, which claimed that Burke was collaborating with former President Donald Trump advisor Stephen Bannon on a film exposing homosexuality in the Vatican.

www.catholicnewsagency.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/facebook-ban-lifesite-covid/2021/05/07/638a4768-af48-11eb-acd3-24b44a57093a_story.html

LifeSiteNews labelled fake news by media watchdog - The Interim

A journalism nonprofit that recently named LifeSiteNewsand numerous other mainstream, right-of-center websites as “unreliable” has apologized after days of public backlash, pledging to scrap their old criteria for more rigorous methodology. The Poynter Institute, which trains writers and...

theinterim.com

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Thanks, that is helpful. From the name you would think they are concerned almost entirely with promoting the pro-life position. Instead, Weston simply spreads the reactionary Roman Catholic view on everything. If pro-life is the goal, you won't win by alienating your allies.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - PUT THIS IN YOUR MIND ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - THE RED SEA AND THE RED DRAGON ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I believe you know that the Hebrews had to cross the Red Sea, and walk through a desert, walk until they got to the Promised Land after 40 years of peregrination / pilgrimage. What about GOD's people now or in this current time?

Now GOD's people will have to go through (I mean win a war) against the Red Dragon, that's exactly it, a Red Dragon yes, this is no coincidence, it was predicted millennia ago. He's a false messiah who will soon manifest, just ahead, with great signs of lying, he will manifest in Israel as a lamb with two horns, he's a Jew, of course, and he'll speak like a Dragon. Revelation 12.v.3 to 17 and Revelation 13:v. 11 to 18.

Let's get ready to go through this not easy FINAL journey of GOD's people here until the glorious, marvelous, and day of exceedingly joy - the day 1335. Amen.

Remembering and understanding that the departure of the Hebrew people from Egypt was not, without first having taken place a battle against Pharaoh (by the way, there and now is Satan himself), and when the march began for the departure of God's people from Egypt, then the enemy army persecuted the Hebrews, the same will happen now, initially the persecution will be by the man Beast of the sea, it is he who will first persecute the Christian believers - Revelation 13:v.5 - for 42 months, that is the first half of the last week, the week 70th Daniel 9:v.27. This POINT is only and only the half of the way -3,5 years or 42 months, the GOD's people will need to march more 3,5 years, so the murch will last 7 years, it will not be easy this journey of course.

Again: Let's get ready to go through this not easy FINAL journey of GOD's people here until the glorious, marvelous, and day of exceendigly joy - the day 1335. Amen.

JESUS in His prayer to the Father, said: John 17:v.15 - I pray not that thou take them out of the world, but that thou keep them from the evil.

Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. Matthew 5:v.5

Get ready, yeah, get ready.

Ana the Ist said:

Go ahead and tell us what those are?

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That is a daring rhetorical move on your part so I will allow you the courtesy of listing them for yourself. I'll give you one: a disinclination to engage in contact sports. Many girls enjoy and are successful at rough sport. However, it is considered more usual and acceptable for them to avoid such activities and cheer the men on from the sidelines. That, at least, is a popular stereotype. If it is a boy who is markedly avoiding such activities, he is regarded as "girly."

Valletta said:

Catholics believe that God is all powerful and can do anything and everything. Thus God is not required to do anything. That being said, a deep understanding of God's plan brings one to the conclusion that Mary was without sin. A Catholic understanding of sin also brings a Catholic to the conclusion that a newborn has not sinned nor has Jesus sinned. An understanding of the Bible also shows that there are righteous people, and thus when we read a statement about righteousness we take it in the proper context.

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I agree God is all-powerful and can do anything and everything. I do not agree that a deep understanding of God's plan leads to the conclusion that Mary was without sin.

God always used flawed people. Abram lied about his wife. Moses argued with God and his sin kept him from entering the Promised Land. David, "a man after God's own heart", committed adultery and had Basheba's husband killed. Rahab, a prostitute, is one of the descendants of Jesus. The list goes on.

Being righteous does not mean perfect. Mary was a righteous woman but not perfect.

Valletta said:

Catholics believe that God is all powerful and can do anything and everything. Thus God is not required to do anything. That being said, a deep understanding of God's plan brings one to the conclusion that Mary was without sin. A Catholic understanding of sin also brings a Catholic to the conclusion that a newborn has not sinned nor has Jesus sinned. An understanding of the Bible also shows that there are righteous people, and thus when we read a statement about righteousness we take it in the proper context.

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Yes, God could have done it any way He wanted to. I don't agree a "deep understanding of God's plan" leads to the conclusion that Mary was without sin. First, as I have argued before, Mary did not have to be without sin for Jesus to be without sin. As we both have said, it was not necessary. Second, throughout the story of the OT, God used flawed people to accomplish His plan. Abram lied about Sarai being his sister and did not fully disclosing that she was his wife. Moses protested to God that he was not eloquent enough. He sinned in the desert and was not allowed to enter the Promised Land. David, a "man after God's own heart", committed adultery with Bathsheba and then had her husband killed. Rahab, the harlot, is one of the descendants of the Messiah. On and on the stories go. Paul was out to see Christians arrested and imprisoned and God turned him into a great Apostle. These stories all give glory to God who can take the broken and sinful and use them in His great plan of redemption. Only Christ needed to be perfect. While Mary did not commit any major sins we are told about, she was still a sinner but used by God to His glory. The moral to the story is that we are all sinners, but God can redeem us and use us to His glory.

A newborn is born with original sin and if a newborn was faultless, then why can't they go to heaven if they die before being baptized in your church's theology? For what reason are they barred from heaven? Due to their sin nature, actual sin is just a matter of time. If they live long enough, they will sin. They are not pure and innocent. Children as young as 2 start showing a willful stubbornness to disobey and do what they want. They may not yet intellectually understand sin but that sin nature is already alive and well. I believe God in His mercy admits young children to heaven but not because they are faultless.

I am not sure what your point about righteous people is, but we see many sinners called righteous. They are not righteous because they are without sin but because they walk with God and repent of their sins. David is such a man. He sinned mightily yet was called a "man after God's own heart." David sinned but he also repented and was close to God. It was his throne that was chosen to be the royal throne that would endure. I see nothing that tells me Mary was without sin.