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Why are you listening to anything a Freemason says?
I'm not, you asked who was Albert Pike & I told you.
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Why are you listening to anything a Freemason says?
I'm curious why you're so resigned to the idea that WW3 would start next year specifically. We've been on a WW3 brink for a long time now.
China will invade Taiwan in 2026,which in turn leads to WW3.The Lord told me.
They seem to have checked out a long time ago.Im curious if Maga Republicans are ok with this.
Cue Sarah McLachlan song.......and politically prosecuted presidents doing their bidding!
Several large private prison companies have donated and contributed to the Trump campaign. They’re then awarded contracts with the government to house all the people ICE and border patrol have been detaining. It’s essentially state sanctioned human trafficking for profit. We don’t get any of this money from this but several of Trump’s wealthy friends do.Why? Do we get more money from somebody.
This would be considered the first death, punishment or not.Earthly death
Yes, and at Judgement Day (hasn't happened yet) the second death happens. Which coincides with Christ's teaching with Matthew 10:28.but the spirit returns to the one who made it
If you don't want to believe death is not really death. Christ even calls it the "second death". I don't think we need to add or take away from that. And to say, well Christ doesn't really mean death.The preponderance of the evidence points a certain direction.
Won't someone please think of the millionaires!
-- A2SG, such hard lives they have....
Yeah, but how do those things show how God values our lives?
It says, “was also preached to those who are now dead“, the gospel was preached unto Abraham and Abraham is now dead. This is the proper understanding of this verse. After death there is no life except in a resurrection from the dead. Jesus said, John 3:13 and this is true. Jesus preached to the spirits in prison, the people of his day, Satan holds people in a spiritual prison and only through Jesus can they be set free. Luke 4:18 Isaiah 61:1-2 The popular idea of heaven and hell is not true.Who do you think are those who are now dead?
Won't someone please think of the millionaires!The war on drugs is against the down on their luck fishermen and unemployed people given a couple hundred bucks to transport product, not the millionaire rulers of the cartel or the enablers.
Agreed. But I’m one of those that migrate to the topic. We all have our topics of interest.I understand what you're saying, and it's one reason I don't get into these more secondary discussions. Because if I do, I demand and expect professional level support, which is what I'm going to bring to the table.
But as it is, the Nature of Hell just isn't a topic I want to spend more time on in my life than what I've already spent on it. I don't think it matters either way since, either way, people should sense some healthy fear in coming before a Holy Lord.
But that is the point. There is no Christian motivation here only personal. This is not a collective group’s opinion but individual personal opinion.What I was asking for initially was what the Christian motivation could be for judging the killing of those two men a righteous act.
I don’t get uppity but I do think that you are confusing personal opinion of a few with those of all Christians. You do know that is a fallacy right?You get all uppity when I bring Christanity into it, but even atheists who think interdicting those boats by just blowing them up is OK, draw the line at circling around to kill the survivors in the water.
Then you need to talk to quite a few more to make such a sweeping determination. Your “survey” is hardly conclusive.The only people who I have talked to about it who think such an action was righteousl have been Christians.
The level and degree of care of God for humans is, however, quite varied. For all of humanity God has provided this earth to sustain life. For most humans, life is far from pleasant, with many dying of disease, famine, and pestilence. God is also perfectly just and holy with requirements to be met in order to please Him. Sadly, all of us have fallen short of His glory and are rightly deserving of an eternity in the lake of fire which burns forever. In His matchless love and grace He sent Jesus Christ to earth to redeem His people. His people were, historically, the Jewish nation and no others among the hundreds of millions of people living on the earth. Following the redemption of Jesus Christ, His people are those who have faith in Jesus Christ. Those who do not have faith in Jesus Christ are not His sheep with the result being that the vast majority of humanity will be eternally lost.I see God is not limited. God created all the universe with it possible for any worlds with life, any other way it would not. God provides for that. God cares for life. God is everywhere, God is not limited in power, and is not limited in caring, God cares for all life. This includes each of us individually. As God cares so there is reason for us to do so.
He that endures to THE END shall be saved. Everlasting life is a gift from GOD received by the saints at the return of Jesus. This mortal must PUT ON immortality. The idea that humans are an immortal soul is the mistake that produced the heaven and hell idea. Death is not life somewhere else, death is the opposite of life. What you call soul sleep should be called spirit sleep. A soul is a living breathing creature. See Strongs Concordance article H5315 used in Genesis 2:7 for the word soul that is used in the creation of Adam. A human being is a soul, the souls is not a third part of us, it is us. The soul that sins shall die. At death the spirit of man returns to GOD in a totally unconscious state incapable of anything. In this sense everyones human spirit goes back to GOD who gave it. It is the breath of life, the human spirit that imparts life to the body, the body without the spirit is dead as James says. A murderer doesn’t have everlasting life abiding in him 1 John 3:15 The idea of hell gives everlasting life to sinners. Only the church will receive everlasting life in the first resurrection. The promise GOD gave to the church is everlasting life. 1 John 2:25 These words I have written are not my words or opinions, they are in the scriptures. How can anyone understand salvation when they don’t even know what they are themselves ? How would getting these things wrong effect the understanding of the gospel ?Christ shared the Gospel with the spirits that were in prison before his death and resurrection. In “The Great Divorce,” C.S. Lewis suggests that Christ might still be reaching out to those spirits that continue to go to the prison or Hades. If this were the case, those who may end up being annihilated could be a very small proportion of people.
But you probably don’t agree with this idea, right? Do you believe the majority of people / spirits will be annihilated?
In the past, I had discussions with SDA's who believe in soul sleep and I rejected their ideas. Now that I distinguish the soul from the spirit, I may not object to soul sleep, so long the consciousness of the spirit is affirmed (which SDA's do not affirm). BTW, SDA's believe in Annihilism after awakening at the Last Judgment.
I have not changed my mind about the personality continuing to exist in or with the conscious spirit after death. I agree with you that the parable of Rich and Lazarus is based on reality. I am interested in learning your beliefs.
I’m just following the scriptural thread weaved through scripture. The preponderance of the evidence points a certain direction. But at the end of the day there are a few competing arguments that hold water. I’ve been involved in several arguments that go the predictable way and that is a shame because they are usually based on faulty linguistic context. I think that in all the years that I’ve been here there has only been two or three debaters that argued within the hermeneutical framework. I learn from those.Personally, I don't invest in this sort of thread since I think the topic itself is underdetermined and can be seen from either viewpoint.
What I was asking for initially was what the Christian motivation could be for judging the killing of those two men a righteous act. You get all uppity when I bring Christanity into it, but even atheists who think interdicting those boats by just blowing them up is OK, draw the line at circling around to kill the survivors in the water. The only people who I have talked to about it who think such an action was righteous have been Christians.You’ll have to ask them. However, you need to examine how you are going about this. This issue is a highly political issue that transcends religion with one side very quick to accuse and get all indignant before all facts are in. I don’t come to a conclusion until I have the necessary facts but many here do.
The legality of it is the earthly measure of what is just. In Christianity there is more to just an earthly measure but also heavenly as well. We believe that only God knows what is in someone’s heart and can fully objectively judge the person. Personally I can make “my” mind of someone’s guilt by the evidence presented but I can never fully know the person’s heart or motivation.