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Apple Sky · 2025-12-08T05:27:28-0600

The Moon and Her Glory

Just as the Sun is set in motion in Genesis 1:16, so is its little
buddy: the Moon. She (and here I use this gender-pronoun
loosely) is a great and wonderful thing that floats along in the sky
and tells you what day of the month it is. She gives off her own
light and she cools the plane. She rules over the night, just as the
Sun rules over the day, yet we can often see her during the
daytime, illuminated (not reflectively) by herself... Waxing.

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MarkRohfrietsch · 2025-12-08T05:26:12-0600

The Liturgist said:
That’s hilarious! I would actually like to see that. I wonder if some people interpret that verse, or if in the future if knowledge of Koine Greek becomes extinct, and English is the only surviving language, if our descendants will grow up assuming that in response to sacrilege, our Lord drove the money changers out of the temple by crushing them in a dance-off.

AI will likely never understand context well.

Apple Sky · 2025-12-08T05:22:30-0600

prodromos said:
He barely gets a mention in these threads.

Yes he does, every time God is mentioned.

christianlloydteegardin · 2025-12-08T05:20:07-0600

The nature of idolatry is a frightening one. One thing leads to another...

Pioneer3mm · 2025-12-08T05:13:50-0600

I have been working with Christian leaders in Philippines..
- for many years.
They were involved in pioneering missions/ministries..
- in the midst of persecution.

CLEEB · 2025-12-08T05:09:35-0600

Matthew 24:29-31 immediately after the tribulation Christ returns. The two witnesses were killed by the beast, Moses and Elijah were not killed, they died many years before the transfiguration which was only a vision as Jesus said, Matthew 17:9 I see you are a Catholic Preterist. Are you full or partial ?

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CLEEB · 2025-12-08T05:01:50-0600

Jan001 said:
The Great Tribulation in Matthew 24:15-22 was in the first century AD.

“So when you see the desolating sacrilege spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains; 17 let him who is on the housetop not go down to take what is in his house; 18 and let him who is in the field not turn back to take his mantle. 19 And alas for those who are with child and for those who give suck in those days! 20 Pray that your flight may not be in winter or on a sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. 22 And if those days had not been shortened, no human being would be saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.

According to Jesus, the desolating sacrilege standing in the holy place will be the Roman armies that will soon be encamped around Jerusalem within this generation. These armies were comprised of soldiers from the many nations of the Roman Empire.

Luke 21:20-24 But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation has come near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, and let those who are inside the city depart, and let not those who are out in the country enter it; 22 for these are days of vengeance, to fulfil all that is written. 23 Alas for those who are with child and for those who give suck in those days! For great distress shall be upon the earth and wrath upon this people; 24 they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led captive among all nations; and Jerusalem will be trodden down by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

The two witnesses that the disobedient Jews rejected were the law and the prophets, which were symbolized by Moses and Elijah. Luke 9:28-37
The Old Testament foretold Jesus the Messiah's birth, death, and resurrection. Luke 24:44

Dan1988 · 2025-12-08T05:01:47-0600

Studyman said:
Well there you go then. You don't need Jesus or His Warnings or Peter's teaching, as you are already there, based on your own words. JW's also teach the same about themselves. Calvinists too. And Catholics, and Mormons and SDA. All claiming they live by the one true gospel and are members of the only true church as they compete against one another for contributing members.

For me, I still need Jesus and I still need His Instruction and His warnings, and the Teaching HE gave me through His Prophets and Apostles, because I am a corruptible human, surrounded by an evil world that "professes to know God" but are disobedient to Him.

"Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many."

"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."

It might be prudent to remind you that the "Very Elect" takes Heed of the "many" who call Jesus Lord, Lord, that they are not deceived. You promoted this to SB. "We can only obey after we are born again and receive the Holy Spirit, and it is the Holy Spirit who leads us and enables us to obey."

Peter, in my understanding, wasn't deceived when the Spirit of Christ had him write down the Words I posted, that you refused to even to acknowledge.

You seem to have your reward. Good for you. I'm still seeking it.

That's right I don't need Jesus or His warnings, because I already have Him. I would only need Him if I didn't already have Him. I don't need Peters teachings, because I already know what He taught.

I'm very much aware of the fact that the majority o professing Christians reject the awful truth of the gospel. And I already know they are in for a horrible shock on judgement day.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying "I still need Jesus and His instructions and warnings". I don't know of anyone who claimed we no longer need Him. Salvation is not a one time deal and then we run off to live your best lives now.

How on earth did you arrive at the conclusion that "If" means "it is"??? your theology is riddled with inconsistencies. The Lord said "if it were possible" meaning that it's not possible but you twist it to mean that it's not only possible but probable and that is twisting Gods Word upside down.

You reckon, your seeking, but God's Word tells us >>> Romans 3:10-12 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one".

As you can see, Gods Word states there are none who seek, but you reckon that's not right because you're actively seeking.

Robban · 2025-12-08T04:57:29-0600

Kjelete said:
Everyday, something new and mean stuff is coming from American online. For example that unemployed people drain the system. That's how I understand it from you. Now it's like your dream of a society where everyone works will never happen, a kind of utopia. The reason I'm writing is because my mother worked in a factory for 32 years or something, and got a medal, and my father has worked for about 30 years also in different places, woke up to the same alarm every day for 30 years, yet they are treated degradingly when we are out because they "just" go there.

Its fun to be mean perhaps, I never understand it, but americans have to kinda weirdos to put all this nonsense out there. I'm always treated well because I've sung so much, but I think it's a bit the opposite of what it should be, maybe then, I've learned a lot on my own, worked hard, but I think 30 years in a factory is tougher

Well, we are 8 billion +and no one can carry all the burdens of the world.

We are all good at something even factory work, best is to do what you are good at. makes life more stressless.

Trust in God conduct oneself with integrity, and the One above will take care of everything.

"Think good and it will be good."
The Rebbe.

prodromos · 2025-12-08T04:56:18-0600

Apple Sky said:
No, it's about the truth.

Truth is a person, the 2nd person of the Holy Trinity, our Lord, God and Saviour, Jesus Christ.
He barely gets a mention in these threads.

prodromos · 2025-12-08T04:54:03-0600

@Apple Sky you've posted these same verses many times and you are still misunderstanding them. They are not about the earth, they are about God.

johnnypapa · 2025-12-08T04:51:13-0600

12/08/25 Day 5

O St. Lucy, whose name proclaims the radiance of light, we approach you with humble confidence to seek your holy intercession. Obtain for us, through your prayers, that sacred illumination which guides our souls away from the shadows of sin and leads us toward the brightness of virtue.

Obtain for us also these petitions which we offer to you in this novena:

[Mention your petitions now]

We beseech you, St. Lucy, through your powerful advocacy before the throne of the Lamb, the protection of our eye sight, and for the grace to employ our eyes always in service of God’s glory and never for that which offends His divine majesty.

Help us to perceive with clarity the truths of our faith and the needs of our neighbor, that we may walk steadfastly in the light of Christ and labor earnestly for the salvation of souls.

Pray for us, St. Lucy, that having honored you as our advocate in this earthly pilgrimage, we may one day behold with you the eternal splendor of the Lamb of God, Jesus Christ our Lord, in whose divine light all shadows flee away forever. Amen.

Strong in Him · 2025-12-08T04:50:33-0600

Apple Sky said:
Zec 1:11 ...and, behold, all the earth sitteth still, and
is at rest.

Isa 44:13 The carpenter stretcheth out his rule; he
marketh it out with a line; he fitteth it with planes,
and he marketh it out with the compass, and maketh
it after the figure of a man, according to the beauty
of a man; that it may remain in the house.

So that proves he didn't walk on the moon, does it?
Your interpretation of Scripture is more important than a Christian brother's eye witness testimony?

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Apple Sky · 2025-12-08T04:34:56-0600

Welcome @Factotum :wave:

Apple Sky · 2025-12-08T04:30:30-0600

The Earth has borders. Antarctica is
an ice wall surrounding us.

Job 26:10 He hath compassed the waters with
bounds, until the day and night come to an end.
Job 38:8 Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it
brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?
Job 38:11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but
no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?
Psa 74:17 Thou hast set all the borders of the earth:
thou hast made summer and winter.
Psa 104:9 Thou hast set a bound that they may not
pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth.

Dan1988 · 2025-12-08T04:29:24-0600

2PhiloVoid said:
It's not a mystery at all. I've given plenty of information on what I think the Christian Faith is (in line with the Nicene Creed), and I've been doing so for over 15 years on these forums.

From what I have gathered, you don't hold to a biblical systematic theology, based on "sola scriptura". You seem to mix Bible doctrine with worldly wisdom, such as philosophy. my understanding is that these are mutually exclusive so you can't hold on to both.

Having a sound theology is not based on how many years you've been studying Church history or the bible. And salvation has nothing to do with how well you know the scriptures, the vast majority of saved people never even had access to a bible. God is not impressed with any mans wisdom and understanding of scripture, He saves people by His grace and not by how wise they think they are.

Tom8907 · 2025-12-08T04:24:03-0600

Hell is indeed eternal and this makes sense. Sinning against an infinitely thrice Holy God does indeed have infinite, eternal consequences.

Douggg · 2025-12-08T04:23:28-0600

@keras,

How can you not understand this ?

Apple Sky · 2025-12-08T04:19:27-0600

Strong in Him said:
yet you say that he is lying just because he knows what shape the earth is because he saw it.

Zec 1:11 ...and, behold, all the earth sitteth still, and
is at rest.

Isa 44:13 The carpenter stretcheth out his rule; he
marketh it out with a line; he fitteth it with planes,
and he marketh it out with the compass, and maketh
it after the figure of a man, according to the beauty
of a man; that it may remain in the house.

Dan1988 · 2025-12-08T04:18:38-0600

2PhiloVoid said:
I've had enough of your accusations. And yes, "truth" is a thing. Christ is Truth in the Ultimate, Supreme spiritual sense, but that fact doesn't override that there are other forms of truth and truth statements, such as: The sun rises in the East. This statement isn't true simply because Jesus is Lord. It's 'true' because the statement is born out by many rational and empirical tests we can make of the claim about 'the sun rising in the East.'

No, according to the Lord Jesus you are wrong again. Because Jesus said "He is the truth" and the Lord Jesus is not "a thing".

John 14:6 "Jesus said to him, 'I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.'"

John 1:14 "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth".

John 1:17 "For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ,"

John 8:32 reads, "And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free,"

1 John 5:20 says: "And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life."

As you can see there are not many truths or other truths, there is only One truth and His name is the Lord Jesus.

You seem to have confused the laws which govern Gods natural creation, these are called facts of nature, not truths of nature. It's a fact of nature that the sun will keep rising and setting without ceasing until the Lords pleasure is fulfilled.

Aggie · 2025-12-08T04:09:31-0600

Anybody remember me? I was a regular on this forum from 2004 until 2018, after which I mostly moved on to other things. I don't plan on becoming a regular here again, but I'm back for the time being to ask about a recent piece of evolutionary anthropology news.

https://x.com/OriginsUnveiled/status/1964040999468224774

According to this analysis, when the human and chimpanzee genomes are compared while including portions that hadn't previously been sequenced, their similarity drops from the commonly given 98% value to 84.7%. On the surface this seems valid, and the conclusion has been accepted by Jerry Coyne, an evolutionary biologist who is qualified to evaluate it. Jerry Coyne's post from yesterday is what brought this analysis to my attention.

But there is something odd about this conclusion: it's virtually identical to an argument made in 2012 by Jerry Bergman and Jeffrey Tomkins in the Journal of Creation. Bergman and Tomkins' 2012 argument was that when human and chimpanzee genomes are compared using data typically omitted from these comparisons, the percentage similarity drops to somewhere in the 81-87 percent range. Either the recent analysis by "Origins Unveiled" is an example of a major creationist claim being vindicated by mainstream evolutionary anthropology, or it's a very clever false flag operation by a creationist or Intelligent Design proponent, which was convincing enough for even Jerry Coyne to be fooled.

Looking more closely, I've noticed a few other possible red flags. First, the argument made by "Origins Unveiled" (and accepted by Jerry Coyne) is based on a paper published in Nature on April 9th. The exact same argument made by "Origins Unveiled"—that this paper shows the creationist figure of 81-87% to be correct—was previously made six months ago by Casey Luskin of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture. And second, "Origins Unveiled" is a relatively new Twitter account (registered in 2024) without any identifying information, aside from that they were a were considering a Ph.D in evolutionary anthropology until they quit due to "the rampant political correctness I witnessed among professors and students in potential university programs". Some of the account's other posts include accurate summaries of evolutionary anthropology concepts, but a fair number of creationists have legitimate PhDs and have published mainstream biology or geoscience research, so the ability to accurately explain these concepts doesn't prove the account's provenance either way.

I would like some help evaluating whether the "Origins Unveiled" Twitter account is for real, and whether it's a coincidence that they've reached the same conclusion as Luskin (and also previously Bergman and Tomkins), or whether this Twitter account is being operated someone associated with the Discovery Institute who's posing as an evolutionary anthropologist. I suppose it's also possible that this account belongs to a creationist or ID proponent but that the substance of their argument is still correct. I'm aware of one other case where a creationist objection (not to the theory evolution itself, but to the way it's been presented in textbooks) turned out to be valid.

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