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Say it aint so · 2025-12-13T11:17:49-0600

Factotum said:
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FACT: Tish accused Trump of 'real estate and bank' criminality for dishonestly attempting to secure more-friendlier loans/lower rates, from the bank.
FACT: Trump is now accusing Tish of 'real estate and bank' criminality for dishonestly attempting to secure more-friendlier loans/lower rates, from the bank.

Tish sued Trump on the behalf of the state of NY and won a judgement against Trump. The court ruled Trump was indeed, and just like the Trump Org felony conviction, was fraudulently cooking the books. But what can we expect from someone who had their foundation and university shut down for again, fraud. The statements from his ex-lawyer at a congressional hearing that give birth to investigation: "It was my experience that Mr. Trump inflated his total assets when it served his purposes, such as trying to be listed amongst the wealthiest people in Forbes, and deflated his assets to reduce his real estate taxes,”

Come the Tish allegations, since that what they just are. The insurance lawyer who stepped in to replace the AG, who quit after refusing to bring charges seeing there were no charges to bring, is failing to make her case for the third time. I already showed you how both cases in Va and NY how those claims are bogus.

Those aren't even close to being the same.

RDKirk · 2025-12-13T11:16:38-0600

durangodawood said:
Thanks for including us on this signal chat.

Nice, on a couple of levels.

Akita Suggagaki · 2025-12-13T11:13:45-0600

Rather than asking hard questions about our political beliefs and theology we superimpose them with little thought. The Left, however, seems far less concerned about religious concerns. Maybe because they try to tolerate even champion all religions, cultures and lifestyles. And that, pn the surface, seems to challenge Christian norms.

NxNW · 2025-12-13T11:11:24-0600

Factotum said:
Instead of what you say here, I think it's best if I go with the opinions of those scholars and experts over at the Hoover Institute.

I'll go with the judge and jury, thank you very much.

Factotum · 2025-12-13T11:09:41-0600

NxNW said:
Prosecuting criminals is satanic?

The facts show otherwise.

Instead of what you say here, I think it's best if I go with the opinions of those scholars and experts over at the Hoover Institute.

Can you list your credentials which make you equally- or higher-qualified? For veraciously briefing humans on this issue.

durangodawood · 2025-12-13T11:08:32-0600

eleos1954 said:
I think this is ridiculous .... a good place to hold meetings/functions by the white house is needed .... it also provides for a more secure place. It's not just going to be a "dance hall".

Is that what the lawsuit is about? No ballroom no matter what?

Apple Sky · 2025-12-13T11:03:22-0600

When Elohim YHVH created the Firmament,
Expanse, also called the Aether1
it lasted the test of time. It is still
there today and still holds the same power that it did then.
They believe in “The canopy
theory” in which there used to be a firmament above the earth,
but when God let the flood down on Noah, it collapsed and the
galaxy was open for exploration. Nothing could be farther from
the truth.

By Paul Hart.

eleos1954 · 2025-12-13T11:00:00-0600

MarcusGregor said:
Trump sued by preservationists seeking reviews and congressional approval for ballroom project

President Donald Trump has been sued by preservationists seeking an architecture review and congressional approval over his White House ballroom project.

apnews.com

President Donald Trump was sued on Friday by preservationists asking a federal court to halt his White House ballroom project until it goes through multiple independent reviews and wins approval from Congress.

The National Trust for Historic Preservation, a privately funded group, is asking the U.S. District Court to block Trump’s White House ballroom project, which already has involved razing the East Wing, until it goes through comprehensive design reviews, environmental assessments, public comments and congressional debate and ratification.

Trump’s project has prompted criticism in the historic preservation and architectural communities, and among his political adversaries, but the lawsuit is the most tangible effort thus far to alter or stop the president’s plans for an addition that itself would be nearly twice the size of the White House before the East Wing’s demolition.

He's really going about this all wrong. Like I said elsewhere I'm not even opposed to the ballroom on principle. He's just doing it all wrong. In just about every way.

I think this is ridiculous .... a good place to hold meetings/functions by the white house is needed .... it also provides for a more secure place. It's not just going to be a "dance hall".

Hentenza · 2025-12-13T10:58:56-0600

HIM said:
It is not a theory. You are being shown the text and the facts therein. Couple that with the fact that the verse 3 makes no sense any other way. It would be a contradiction within the text itself if the if which is in the text was not translated so. For how could we who do enter into rest, enter therein if God sworn in His wrath that we shall not?

Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

Again, the vast majority of translations do not translate it your way. You are not a Bible scholar with full competency in Greek so I’m going to go with the experts. In fact I find it quite interesting that the KJV and NKJV differ although both are translated using the same text.

eleos1954 · 2025-12-13T10:57:48-0600

MarcusGregor said:
Trump administration says sign language services 'intrude' on Trump's ability to control his image

The Trump administration argues that providing real-time American Sign Language interpretation for events like White House press briefings would intrude on the president’s control over his public image.

apnews.com

The Trump administration is arguing that requiring real-time American Sign Language interpretation of events like White House press briefings “would severely intrude on the President’s prerogative to control the image he presents to the public,” part of a lawsuit seeking to require the White House to provide the services.

Department of Justice attorneys haven’t elaborated on how doing so might hamper the portrayal President Donald Trump seeks to present to the public. But overturning policies encompassing diversity, equity and inclusion have become a hallmark of his second administration, starting with his very first week back in the White House.

The National Association for the Deaf sued the Trump administration in May, arguing that the cessation of American Sign Language interpretation — which the Biden administration had used regularly — represented “denying hundreds of thousands of deaf Americans meaningful access to the White House’s real-time communications on various issues of national and international import.” The group also sued during Trump’s first administration, seeking ASL interpretation for briefings related to the COVID-19 pandemic.

What image is that, Mr. President?

I think it should be available..

Aryeh Jay · 2025-12-13T10:54:34-0600

Akita Suggagaki said:
Blasphemy!

Agreed, but there's a large group of people in the US that have no problem with it.

Akita Suggagaki · 2025-12-13T10:52:31-0600

Blasphemy!

eleos1954 · 2025-12-13T10:50:10-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5645133-supreme-court-second-amendment-challenges/

An unusually large pileup of Second Amendment challenges has landed at the Supreme Court, which will consider taking up the cases behind closed doors Friday.

It would add to what is already a major term for gun rights. The justices previously agreed to hear two cases early next year that involve whether unlawful drug users can carry firearms and Hawaii’s gun permitting regime.

I have mixed feeling about these. I'll explain why.

Preface: Scotus can only evaluate what's presented to them and elevated to their court, not perfect world scenarios to make new legal stipulations.

Hawaii and similar states having a "may issue" permitting system.

The two sides of that coin, a person pays the application fees, spends money to dot all of the I's and cross all the T's, and then an issuing agency says "Nah, sorry, we're not going to give you a carry permit".

The flip side, an issuing agency has guys like this show up:
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"Hi, I passed the background check did the paperwork, the gremlins who live in my closet said I should carry a gun, rabbit skins feel nice don't they...anyway...can I have my permit please?"

...perhaps some discretion is a good thing in some instances.

On the "felon" stuff...I've long maintained that people with non-violent felonies (like cooking the books) are less of a public threat than a person with violent misdemeanors on their record, and shouldn't be denied the right of self defense. The problem is, SCOTUS has a narrow scope to work with to establish precedent and isn't involving that sort of nuance to make the distinction between violent and non-violent felonies, and I certainly don't want former armed robbers being legally licensed to carry.

As far as the drug users thing, that's also too broad. Despite marijuana being closer to alcohol on the "risk spectrum", its lumped in with PCP and heroin (federally), so SCOTUS striking down laws on behalf of some casual pot users could have the negative effect of allowing some hardcore drug users to get their hands on guns.

I think anyone with a Class D felony should get a automatic 5 year loss of gun rights ... if no other offenses during that time their gun rights restored.

A-C they permanently lose their gun rights.

Conceal carry should be allowed nation-wide.

bbbbbbb · 2025-12-13T10:45:43-0600

SabbathBlessings said:
I am assuming you are speaking of EGW, I only quoted Scripture. What activities on the Sabbath did she promote that is in violation of what God said we should do on the Sabbath. Please stop making vague accusations and provide what you are speaking about. Remember, we are accountable for any false testimony we have against others.

Actually, there was nothing at all that the Pharisees did that violated any of the Law. Their problem was that they added their own traditions to the Law, as many have done since, not merely Mrs. White.

Which of Mrs. White's additional traditions have you personally rejected?

essentialsaltes · 2025-12-13T10:44:52-0600

essentialsaltes said:
US veterans agency lost thousands of ‘core’ medical staff under Trump, records show
Departures are exacerbating existing shortages and creating ‘very unsafe’ conditions for patients, veterans and health workers say

U.S. Veterans Affairs agency plans as many as 35,000 health-care job cuts this month, Washington Post reports

The cuts come after the agency cut about 30,000 jobs in July [previous story, more or less]

The U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs plans to eliminate as many as 35,000 health-care positions this month, the Washington Post reported on Saturday, citing an internal memo, Veterans Affairs staffers and congressional aides.

Reuters could not immediately confirm the report.

“The health-care system is eliminating about 26,400 of its open jobs, which he described as ‘mostly COVID-era roles that are no longer necessary,’” the Washington Post quoted Veterans Affairs Department spokesperson Pete Kasperowicz as saying.

durangodawood · 2025-12-13T10:44:50-0600

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Maria Billingsley said:
Thank you for sharing your strong views on the White House renovations. However, your descriptions of those areas as an 'abandoned empty lot' or a 'derelict structure' are highly political opinions—not factual or historical descriptions. While I see you're using that strong language to defend the President's actions, those terms actively dismiss the historic significance of the spaces and the preservation concerns that led to the legal challenges mentioned in the OP.

Aryeh doenst always believe exactly what he says. At least I hope not.

HIM · 2025-12-13T10:43:49-0600

Hentenza said:
The problem with your theory

It is not a theory. You are being shown the text and the facts therein. Couple that with the fact that the verse 3 makes no sense any other way. It would be a contradiction within the text itself if the if which is in the text was not translated so. For how could we who do enter into rest, enter therein if God sworn in His wrath that we shall not?

Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

Aryeh Jay · 2025-12-13T10:43:07-0600

Anyone on Facebook knows.

sjastro · 2025-12-13T10:39:24-0600

stevevw said:
I did lol.

There is very little work done of these examples. There was one test on a small sample taken from a site called Tetecacca from the glazed surface. They showed traces of Silicon, Aluminum and Magnesium which is not natural to the stones. It was like a thin glaze over the stone. This is common all the the sites around Peru. Another unusualy feature is that these stones are very magnetic.

The info on the Snake impression starts at around the 7.20 minutes mark if you don't want to watch the short video. It also covers other stones that have been vitified.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u7x6xrGO8I

Looking at only the first few minutes of the video I found it was are riddled with errors.

(1) The rock is made from Andesite which has a MOH hardness 5.5 - 6.5 not 7.0 as reported in the video.
(2) Andesite is an igneous rock, to refer to it as a geopolymer is nonsensical.
(3) Andesite is composed of Plagioclase feldspar, Pyroxene, Hornblende, Biotite, Magnetite, Apatite, Ilmenite, Zircon, Quartz and Olivine.

According to the screenshot in the video the SEM and EDS (Energy-Dispersive X-ray Spectroscopy) spectrum has an 'excessively high level' of iron (Fe).

There is nothing out of the ordinary for the Fe content, of the mineral composition mentioned, the Fe bearing minerals are Pyroxene, Hornblende, Biotite, Magnetite, and Ilmenite.

(4) There is nothing out of the ordinary for Andesite having magnetic properties either given Magnetite is one of the minerals found in Andesite.
(5) The presence of guano which is bat and bird droppings is clearly an external contamination and not a component of the 'geopolymer'.

Whereas the sample from the monument is contaminated by guano, the reference guano EDS spectrum is also clearly contaminated by the presence of silicon (Si) in the form of dust particles.
In the forensic investigation of engine wear of pistons, rings and cylinder walls due to lubrication problems, a main culprit is the external contamination of engine oils from Si in the environment and is found by EDS.

These basic errors where enough to convince me viewing the entire video would have been a waste of time.

Maria Billingsley · 2025-12-13T10:39:10-0600

Aryeh Jay said:
More fake liberal outrage. The Democrats had years to demolish parts of the White House but sat on their hands doing nothing. But as soon as President Trump paved over an abandoned empty lot or removed an old unused derelict structure, oh! It's the end of the world!

Thank you for sharing your strong views on the White House renovations. However, your descriptions of those areas as an 'abandoned empty lot' or a 'derelict structure' are highly political opinions—not factual or historical descriptions. While I see you're using that strong language to defend the President's actions, those terms actively dismiss the historic significance of the spaces and the preservation concerns that led to the legal challenges mentioned in the OP.

rockytopva · 2025-12-13T10:38:32-0600

The human spirit can have a sensation of warmth (E), frequency, and vibration (c2). Unknown, unseen, not measured in pounds or kilograms... But is somehow very pleasantly there..
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Always in His Presence · 2025-12-13T10:34:31-0600

johansen said:
at some point, replies like this become a waste of forum bandwidth and only decrease the ability of anyone else reading the thread to understand what anyone is talking about.

As is replying to and complaining about a posters comments a similar waste of bad width

johansen said:
for what its worth, i agree with everything ain't zwingling in post #78.

Do you believe your comment is a better use of bandwidth?

johansen said:
whats left if you aren't either of those?

Terminology is the issue here - a Baptist is most commonly the title of a Protestant denomination. Of which I am not a member. I do not have a clue what the other types of baptist the poster mentioned are and the poster offered no clarity nor explanation.

Aryeh Jay · 2025-12-13T10:32:04-0600

durangodawood said:
Thanks for including us on this signal chat.

I just got the joke. It's already been a long day.

essentialsaltes · 2025-12-13T10:30:30-0600

Trump's 'historic' peace deal for DR Congo shattered after rebels seize key city

The US ambassador to the UN has accused Rwanda of leading Africa's Great Lakes region toward war, just over a week after a peace deal was signed in Washington to end the decades-long conflict.

[T]he M23 rebel group says it has "fully liberated" the key city of Uvira in an offensive the US and European powers say is backed by Rwanda. UN experts have previously accused it of having "de facto control" of the rebel force's operations.

The rebels were not signatories to Trump's deal - and have been taking part in a parallel peace process led by Qatar, a US ally.

The M23's new offensive in South Kivu started a few days before Kagame and Tshisekedi flew to Washington last week to ratify the agreement first hammered out in June.

durangodawood · 2025-12-13T10:29:56-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
....."Ladies, Gentlemen, Heads of State, Ambassadors, we'd like to welcome you all to this gala affair, there's some bug spray by the salad bar if the mosquitos get too bad"

The US is something of an outlier in this regard.

Do most countries have their ballroom or similar at the capitol building or executive residence/office?

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