"ILLEGAL" immigrants.

Adventures of the Gummi Bears

rambot said:

Just for Context:

When Trump gives someone 25,000 dollars, that is the equivalent of me dropping 50 cents into a homeless persons cup (comparing the donation to our net worths)

So I'm wondering, could we start a thread about how awesome I am when I drop a fiver in the Salvation Army bowl?


How low does the bar have to be?

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Pretty much anything isn't going to be good enough for the Trump hate camp, so what's the point? Although probably every little bit of good he does irks them.

Bradskii said:

It really seems that you don't like the guy and that he's going to be bad new for NY. I think you don't want him to do well. But I Really like that you don't feel that you always have to agree withTrump. That's quite refreshing.

From here: Trump says he ‘absolutely’ would live in Mamdani’s New York during unexpectedly cordial first meeting – US politics live

'When asked by a reporter whether he would live in New York under Mamdani’s leadership, Trump said “absolutely”. “We agree on a lot more than I would have thought,” Trump said. “I want him to do a great job, and we’ll help them do a great job.”

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I will say, that was an entertaining meeting...

I especially chuckled at the part where a reporter asked Mamdani "You've said Trump is a fascist, do you still feel that way?"

Mamdani was just starting to give his "political" answer of "well, I've stated before that..."

When Trump grabbed his arm and said "It's okay, just say yes...it's a lot easier to say yes... I don't mind" and they both laughed.

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Maybe we're witnessing the beginning of a comedic "Odd Couple" situation

Or perhaps a begrudging "well, we're stuck with each other, might as well try to make the best of it" situation like this

Vambram said:

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President Donald Trump has not issued ANY illegal orders to the military.

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In your opinion.

Vambram said:

On the other hand, those Democratic Senators are encouraging the military to disobey the chain of command.

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Nope. Not in the slightest. They didn't tell them to disobey lawful orders. They correctly told them to disobey unlawful orders, which the military also does.

Here's my honest take...

The racists they're referring to were always part of the coalition. (even back in 2016)

They're just much more vocal and visible now.


The reason why this wasn't as visible from 2016-2023? Internet/Social Media censorship.

I tried making this argument back a few years ago... the argument of "sunlight is the best disinfectant". And that "you're actually helping Trump by hiding his most radical supporters from public view"


And that's really the ironic part, it was the "We need to ban any and all offensive speech and microaggressions" crowd (that hates Trump the most) that delayed people coming to realization, on the basis of "needing to protect peoples' feelings online"

I think we can mostly agree that the catalyst behind this "awakening" moment some in the conservative movement are having, is largely due to Nick Fuentes content not being censored anymore and a lot of people on the conservative half are learning about him (and his views) for for the first time.

Had some of the BlueSky-type crybabies not demanded content censorship on the major platforms back in 2016-2020, this "realization" that's leading to a "MAGA fracturing" could've happened 3-4 years ago when it actually mattered -- BEFORE he got elected again instead of afterwards.

People having that realization now changes nothing. With or without a "unified MAGA", Trump is your president until Jan. 2029.

Brother Del said:

I'm out gentlemen.

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That's a shame. I was hoping you could tell me why the moon appears upside down in Sydney compared to how it appears in Oregon.

Trump is easily charmed.

JimR-OCDS said:

The Church only has the fullness of revealed truth. There is much more to be learn as God see fit to reveal to us.

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And how much beyond our understanding? Beyond words even.

Dan Perez said:

And I wrote. Heb. 9 :18.

#1. WHERE UPON //. HOTHEN. is an ADVERB

# 2 NEITHER. // OUDE. is an ADVERB

# 3. THE // is a DEFINATE ARTICLE in the NOMINATIVE CASE in the SINGULAR

# 4 FIRST // PROTOS in the NOMINATIVE CASE n the SINGULAR

# 5 ( TESTAMENT ). WAS DEDICATED //. EGKAINIZ. in the PERFECT TENSE in the INDICATIVE MOOD in. the SINGULAR

# 6 WITHOUT // CHORIS. is an. ADVERB

# 7 BLOOD //. HAIMA in. the GENITIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR in. the NEUTER

This isbn why the OLD COVENENT. could could not save BECAUSE CHRIST BLOOD had not yet shed

ON THE CROSS and why Gentiles would never be saved

AS ATONMENT was what kept all SAFE with. the

The PRIEST

The ALTER

THE SACIFICE

THE BLOOD THAT WAS SPRINKLED ON THE ALTER

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Yes you're right the old covenant could not save anyone.

We do not receive Jesus' blood intravenously, so blood type is irrelevant.

Pommer said:

Evidenced by His stance in the gospels?
Withdrawn, believe what you’d like about your Deity.

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Show me in the Bible where the Lord God condones the LGBTQ agenda.

9Rock9 said:

So, do you think the Bible is completely without error in everything it touches on?

I do believe the Bible is infallible, but idk if I would go to say that it is entirely without error on matters of history, details, etc. The point is to point people to Christ. It's not meant to be a collection of raw information to mine through.

I do think Scripture is God breathed, but unsure whether I lean towards verbal plenary inspiration or dynamic inspiration.

What about you?

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Have you found any errors?

Long live the counter-culture

I don’t see how anyone can expect this administration to release anything that might be damaging to the president or anyone loyal to him.

2PhiloVoid said:

From one philosopher to another, welcome to Christian Forums!

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It looks like the philosophy section has been discontinued.

Staff Paper

Found the above and thought it was interesting enough to share, as this is a small part of Beethoven's 5th Symphony's autograph (the original that he wrote in his own hand, IOW).

Guojing said:

Abraham has physical descendants as well as spiritual descendants, so you are correct.

Abraham had 2 seed, spiritual and physical, while Jacob only has one seed, that is physical

God promised numerous descendants to Abraham in a number of places in Genesis

Genesis 12: 2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:

Genesis 15 (our favourite passage): 5 And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.

6 And he believed in the Lord; and he counted it to him for righteousness.

Genesis 17:4 As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.

5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.

6 And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee.

Genesis 22: 17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;

Notice how God specified to Abraham that his seed will be of 2 groups:

-Stars of the heaven
-Sand upon the sea shore.

While for Jacob, it was found in Genesis 28

12 And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.

13 And, behold, the Lord stood above it, and said, I am the Lord God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon thou liest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed;

14 And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.

Here is the critical alteration in the promise of numerous descendants to Jacob can be found. While Abraham was promised seed that will be the stars of heaven, Jacob had no promise of that.

Instead, God promised Jacob specifically that his seed shall be as the dust of the earth

It is Jacob's seed that became Israel, which is also Abraham's physical seed.

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I'll have to look into what you're saying, I'll get back to you at some point, I am way too brain dead right now to research lol but thank you for your thought out reply.

Guojing said:

James was the head of true Israel, the remnant that believed in Jesus as their Messiah.

The resurrected Christ never told any of them that the Law is now optional for them. Instead he continue to tell them "to obey everything he commanded (Matthew 28:20), which includes obedience to the Law.

It is rather arrogant of you to claim that they were incorrect for more than 20 years after the cross.

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Is it rather foolish of you to deny that the old covenant law was made obsolete by the blood of Christ despite scripture teaching that in Hebrews 8-10. His blood established the new covenant and made the old covenant obsolete. That is what it clearly says in passages like Hebrews 8:6-13 and Hebrews 10:1-14. But, you are contradicting that by claiming that the old covenant law was still in effect after His death.

The rise of Islamist extremism in the north of the country, especially in regions such as Cabo Delgado, has had a devastating impact on the lives of believers. Churches have been burned down, pastors abducted and many killed. The objective of these groups is to, while church youth leaders are at particular risk from violent drug traffickers.

Meet "Pastor Mario"

In Mozambique, we Christians are targets of much persecution, many believers are raped, killed, several churches and houses destroyed.

PASTOR MARIO, CHURCH LEADER IN MOZAMBIQUE

What has changed this year?

Mozambique rose by two positions on this year's World Watch List. Islamist militants continued their hate campaign against Christians, which intensified after 11 Christians were executed in September 2023. In 2024, extremists launched a campaign targeting Christians called Kill Them Wherever You Find Them. Additionally, the fight against Islamist militants in Cabo Delgado was weakened after a multi-national peacekeeping mission withdrew their troops.

What does Open Doors do to help Christians in Mozambique?

Open Doors supports persecuted Christians in northern Mozambique by providing emergency aid, persecution survival training and economic empowerment projects.

How can you pray for Mozambique?

• Pray for protection for believers in northern Mozambique as the region remains unstable and vulnerable to attacks from extremist groups.
• Please pray that God will comfort and heal Christians who are severely traumatised because of the violent attacks.
• Pray for Open Doors partners who work in Mozambique to be protected as they seek to strengthen the faith of believers.

d taylor said:

Even images like this one are not showing the curve of a sphere earth. But is showing the land of a flat surface turning back toward the observer/camera, as the camera would show in a 360 view the earth as a circular disk.

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The fact that you can only see as far as about 370 miles to the horizon from that altitude proves the earth is a sphere.
Congratulations on your own goal.

Mr. Homan is correct. There are legal pathways & laws to follow. I think sometimes people get this impression of Christ that He is trying to just be liberal & liked & thus allow every behavior. No He had a standard. We have trouble deciphering it. All nations must have border laws in order to retain sovereignty. We don't exist as a bunch of tribes on this planet in a vacuum where we can all sit down at the campfire. The reality is that all humans live in tension. I like so many people wait for a 2nd Coming that would dissolve this toxicity. But one has to understand the financial burden place on citizens from this huge transgression. The Democrats allowed this because they want a compliant people to come in & eventually get to the voting booth. This people will do what they're told which is to vote for the hand that feeds. It's Pavlovs dogs. Then you lose all control of society. If they can get freebies, then maybe John Q should not pay his property taxes. Or maybe John Q should go steal a bicycle or rob a bank. Society breaks down if you don't have a decorum. Its all too easy to want to be liked & look benevolent to the people. It's like better to be popular than right. Well being popular is not always correct. This is not a matter of 50 migrants. It's much more. Why should the American people redistribute their hard-earned income now to these people & bring down their own standard of living. They could jeopardize their own ability to eat, pay rent or mortgage, get food, etc. And please don't give me this but if you do great in heaven will be your reward. Tell that to a cancer patient. And the Church does not appear to have an answer to the drug problem, trafficking, & crime. It's like saying don't worry we have the money to pay for the cost on society for the fentanyl. don't worry if someone does too much charity & now can't pay the rent, we will send 2 loaves & 5 fish. It's also easy to see that church attendance has declined & it may appear that these migrants make for easy bait to fill the pews. So it appears everyone has a motive of exploitation. When a society lacks a standard & plays everyone gets a trophy, it degrades the standard. We have our own homeless, our own vets, drug addicts, mentally ill, poor, & even these days middle class.

Perhaps the most surprising aspect of the Somalia fraud story is the scale, with total costs running into the billions of taxpayer dollars. That raises the question: What happened to all that money?
The Somali fraud rings have sent huge sums in remittances, or money transfers, from Minnesota to Somalia. According to reports, an estimated 40 percent of households in Somalia get remittances from abroad. In 2023 alone, the Somali diaspora sent back $1.7 billion—more than the Somali government’s budget for that year.
Our investigation reveals, for the first time, that some of this money has been directed to an even more troubling destination: the al-Qaida-linked Islamic terror group Al-Shabaab. According to multiple law-enforcement sources, Minnesota’s Somali community has sent untold millions through a network of “hawalas,” informal clan-based money-traders, that have wound up in the coffers of Al-Shabaab.

The Minnesota government hands out taxpayer money with little checking or follow-up.

ranunculus said:

You downplay his actions and call it merely boorish, I'll call it fascistic when a single leader is demanding complete unchecked power while siccing the military on his own constituents and using his crypto coin grifts as slush funds for dark money and foreign government bribery, among a myriad of other crimes.

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Call a man a Nazi long enough and people start believing it.

ranunculus said:

Maybe you missed the sarcasm indicator denoting the facetious nature of my comment but would you like you an actual prediction?

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You predicted Trump family flees to Russia. You mean you think he won't?