RDKirk said:

But the military is accountable for how they are attacked. They must be attacked within the legal framework of the Law of Armed Conflict that every military member has been taught.

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Would a "double tap" in regards to an aerial strike be considered illegal, if the enemy personnel were attempting to salvage the illegal cargo after the first strike, with no first responders in sight?

Pommer said:

I see, so a society with enough citizens with enough disposable income to mount a legal defense against an overly zealous constabulary is just hunky-dory?
”Land of the free” no more.

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There's a lot of pro bono help readily available.

keras said:

I quoted Daniel 12:10b..... only the wise leaders will understand.
The context is Daniel 12:8.....The Words are to be kept secret until the time of the end.

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The words are unpacked in Revelation for anyone who bothers to understand Apocalyptic Symbolism.
Your fever dreams of 2010 mislead you about 2012 and the AOD in 2026.
Why should we believe anything you say?

keras said:

Also, your rejection of a viable explanation of Zechariah 5,

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NOTHING you say about the OT is 'viable' as you rip everything out of context and make it about now.

Remember - most of the OT prophecies are about THEIR times and THEIR concerns, not ours.
They build and build on this idea of the judgement in the Day of the Lord - as the Assyrians ride in to Israel, as the Babylonians ride into Judah, and as the Persians later ride across the entire Middle East - and grant Israel the right to return home. Prophecy fulfilled! And yet... there are a few passages that refer to more to come.

Most of them are fulfilled in Jesus gospel events in eschatological tension.

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without any sensible alternative, is unreasonable and shows extreme bias, as well as just ignoring the present realty of the Middle East situation.

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Oh, right? That conflict that you said "will not fizzle out." On and on you went - and that was one of your SHORTER posts!


But rather than your futurist goggles on current affairs having all the Muslim countries join a coalition to fight Israel - guess what happened? Your futurist filters fluffed these affairs! There's a ceasefire. It DID 'fizzle out'. I'm not saying there's a lasting peace in the Middle East. I'm saying that THIS war DID fizzle out. You said it would not! You got all dogmatic, and did declareth -

"What that will be, is told to us in the Prophetic Word:"​

Except - wrong again. Fizzle. Oh - and rather than "combined force of the neighbouring countries attacking" - it is Militant Zionism that mainly continues the carnage - even in this 'peace.'

So now you have made false claims about 2012, how Gaza will not fizzle, AND the AOD 2026.
I hoped by now you would have learned?


As the FIRST comment on your Gaza thread of 2023 said:

What do I predict for 2026?​

I predict that unless the Lord returns before then (which he could, because there's nothing theologically required to happen since the gospel reached Rome aka "all nations" nearly 2000 years ago) - I predict that futurists will continue to misread the prophets, misread theology, and misread current affairs.

They will see their patterns, make their declarations, and utterly embarrass the Lord with their false predictions.

Some of them will even be more excited about their pet-theories about the anti-Christ, and will tell non-Christians more about the anti-Christ than they will about Jesus!

That's what I predict.

And given the above examples of how futurism fluffs thinking, I'm pretty sure I'll be proved right.

Unless the Lord returns in the next 5 seconds.
Which he could.

President Donald Trump is still talking about his plan to give Americans a tariff dividend refund in 2026.

Trump discussed the potential checks in a two-hour-plus Cabinet meetingon Dec. 2, during which he also called the "affordability" issue a "Democrat scam," and appeared to nod off.

"Next year is projected to be the largest tax refund season ever, and we're going to be giving back refunds out of the tariffs, as we have taken in literally trillions of dollars," -- [this is literally not true] -- Trump said early in the meeting. "We're going to be giving a nice dividend to the people in addition to reducing debt."

The nonpartisan, not-for-profit The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates Trump's tariffs will raise about $300 billion per year, while tariff dividends would cost about $600 billion per round

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We have an actual US Senator interviewing on Infowars???

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Well, the highest degree he's earned is Coach. We can't expect much.

FAITH-IN-HIM said:

When an action cannot be justified, yet a courageous individual steps up to defend it, that person may be mistaken—entirely in error for trying to support what cannot be defended. Nonetheless, their bravery and willingness to stand apart from the crowd to champion the indefensible should be acknowledged as a form of chivalry.

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That's a kind of wisdom that I cannot disagree with.

An Ex Cathedra statement with a nice encyclical about the history and meaning of the priesthood would put the finishing touch on this.

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Trump aides plan megabill marketing reboot for GOP lawmakers​

A Wednesday briefing will urge a focus on "working families" after the president questioned his "big, beautiful" branding.

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GOP frustrations grow over lackluster ‘big, beautiful bill’ sales pitch​

Talk about the massive tax package largely evaporated after Labor Day amid high-stakes fights over releasing documents related to Jeffrey Epstein and the 43-day government shutdown. Yet even before those controversies, polls showed the GOP legislation was unpopular.

This has frustrated lawmakers who say the party needs to do more to sell its signature accomplishment, especially as Democrats hammer them on the issue of affordability.

Complicating the picture for the GOP is a sluggish economic backdrop, headlined by inflation that has ticked upward and tariffs that have contributed to higher prices.

Trump labeled the Democratic affordability chatter a “con job” Tuesday, even as his approval rating slips amid voter concerns about his handling of the economy.

“It’s way too [doggone] expensive to live in this country right now,” one GOP operative said. “We need to be seen as at least caring about that.”

House Republicans are staring down warning signs that their slim majority could be in peril next year, especially after the party won Tuesday’s House special election in Tennessee by single digits in a district President Trump carried by more than 20 points last year.

Another headache for the GOP and its sales pitch is Trump, who has not talked about the tax bill as much as some in the party would like and has largely eschewed political rallies in key states that previously have been one of his hallmarks.

[Well, he has his hands full lobbying for the Nobel Peace Prize.]

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I apologize for the late reply. I often get swamped with notifications and cannot keep track of it all. But to answer your question, if there were survivors and those survivors were positively identified, and those survivors were not still actively trying to resist (like trying to salvage drugs), it would be both morally and legally wrong to kill them. But as I get more information about the topic, it appears that the situation isnt so simple.

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Well, I'd say that the survivors were 'actively trying' not to drown. Just make a mental note that the orders were not 'prevent these drugs from getting to the US'. It was literally 'kill them all'. That's the position you have to square with your conscience.

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'No-win position': GOP careening towards crisis on health care plan​

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GOP faces a familiar dilemma: What to do about Obamacare?​

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They don't seem to have figured it out.

Frustrated GOP barrels toward key health insurance vote without a clear plan​

Republicans say they won’t have their alternative proposal to address rapidly rising insurance premiums ready in time for next week’s vote, leaving some GOP senators dissatisfied about the lack of a clear strategy to counter the Democrats’ bill.

A group of centrist Republican and Democratic negotiators worked over the Thanksgiving recess to make progress toward a bipartisan deal, but they said it won’t be ready in time for next week’s vote, either. This is fueling pessimism about any deal being reached this year.

[Since] The GOP has no consensus on how to proceed on the issue, which may spur a group of Republican senators to cross the aisle next week and vote for a Democratic bill to extend the subsidies under the Affordable Care Act (ACA).

Shaheen, who has been in touch with House colleagues, said that even if the Senate passes a bill, it’s becoming clear that the Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) will not bring it up for a vote.

“What I’m hearing is that it’s unlikely that Speaker Johnson will take up any bill and that it would have to be done by a discharge petition,” she said.

Michie said:

She is still going on crying jags. It’s hard. We’ve been helping her with the financial aspect of things, death certificates, etc. We’ll be contacting an attorney this week to help walk her through the legalities for her protection and security.

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I'm so sorry. She's in our prayers. Jen and I will be going to Ohio this Sunday for the wake and funeral. It's on Tuesday we will be home Wednesday. Tomorrow I'm going to Potsdam to get my Nucala injection for my eosinophilic asthma. It's my first dose. I've been suffering for many, many months so to finally get relief is great. I'm really hoping it works.

Then after we get home from Ohio I've got to start a 4 day prep for a colonoscopy on the 15th. They still haven't found out what's wrong with my constipation and they'll be finding out on the 15th hopefully.

I'll post an update on the prayer wall when they find out what it is.

Delvianna said:

100% agree because then they're just "defending" themselves. Not that this logic would ever fly in court, but that's not the point. It's their own moral compass.

You know, when history says Rome fell from within, I seriously get it now.

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At least part of the blame for the fall of Rome could be blamed on the lead added to wine to clarify it. Fancy wines were 'claret' but the cheap stuff the commoners drank needed the Pb additive to clarify it. In part, they poisoned themselves. But agreed it was mostly a moral compass issue.

An exhaustive Daily Mail investigation has exposed how Immigration and Customs Enforcement has lowered standards so dramatically that the new cohort now includes recent high school graduates and applicants who can 'barely read or write' as well as those who lack basic physical fitness and even have pending criminal charges.

Meanwhile, total novices are being fast-tracked into the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Georgia, where instructors have been left astounded at the levels of incompetence.

In one shocking incident, they were left shaking their heads when one student asked to be excused from class so he could attend a court date on a gun charge.

Other recruits were even discovered to have tattoos associated with gangs and white supremacists when they stripped off their shirts during workouts.

'We have people failing open-book tests and we have folks that can barely read or write English,' one Department of Homeland Security (DHS) official told the Daily Mail.

'We even had a 469-lb man sent to the academy whose own doctor certified him not at all fit for any physical activity.'

The academy recently eliminated the sit-up requirement because so many students couldn't handle them — and subbed in a sprint challenge, the Daily Mail has learned.

Insiders say the vetting process has been so rushed that officials didn't even wait for drug test results to come back before hiring recruits and flying them off to Georgia, only to discover afterward that tests came back positive.

ICE still appears on track to meet its target of 10,000 new hires, an outcome insiders attribute to the lowering of standards.

'They're just trying to process them in as quickly as possible to say that we have people operational. Anything that they think may have a pulse, they're moving through.'

A source said ICE deputy director Madison Sheehan, at a recent meeting, chewed out staff about the purportedly slow pace of hiring, allegedly threatening them saying: 'if you can't meet this number, send me an email now and I'll have you reassigned to FEMA.'

Hentenza said:

“All Scripture is inspired by God and beneficial for teaching, for rebuke, for correction, for training in righteousness;”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭3‬:‭16‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

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All Scripture is inspired by God and beneficial for teaching, for rebuke, for correction, for training in righteousness

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If scripture is inspired by God then it is infallible. All extra biblical material is not God breathed and therefore fallible. The OP is correct.

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"All" scripture, not "only" scripture.

A Chicago suburb church is making a political statement with its nativity scene this year, depicting the infant Christ with zip ties around his wrists and Roman soldiers as U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents.

Lake Street Church of Evanston, Illinois, is affiliated with the American Baptist Churches USA (ABCUSA) denomination and practices “a progressive Christian theology that embraces people from all different religious denominations and religious traditions.”

The church is actively involved in advocacy work for immigrants and racial justice. On Nov. 14, Rev. Michael Woolf, the church’s pastor, was one of 21 individuals detained during a protest at an ICE facility in Broadview, another Chicago suburb.

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It found that the information Hegseth shared had been marked "secret" and could have imperiled American troops had it been intercepted by a foreign adversary, the two people who have read the report said. The evaluation by the Defense Department Inspector General also concluded that Hegseth violated military regulations by using his personal phone for official business, according to those people.

The report also said that Hegseth, as the secretary of defense, is the “original classification authority” and in fact does have the authority to declassify intelligence based on his judgment.

But the inspector general did not address whether Hegseth took the proper steps to declassify the information shared in the chat, the two people said.


Signal gate report via Politico:

YouVersion, the most downloaded Bible app in the world, has revealed the top Bible verse of 2025 as its team reflects on a year of record-breaking Bible engagement worldwide.

In a statement shared with The Christian Post on Thursday, YouVersion identified Isaiah 41:10 as the most engaged-with Bible verse on its Bible app throughout the year. The verse declares: “So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.”

Bobby Gruenewald, founder and CEO of YouVersion, shared his views on the popularity of the Bible verse, which has taken the top spot in four of the past six years.

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seeking.IAM said:

Interesting video. For those who don't want to take 13 minutes to watch it...instructor placed on administrative leave; University decision that her "0" will not be averaged into her final grade for the class. University posted messages that it will not tolerate religious discrimination.

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Good!

Can one affirm both the Mytho-History/cosmic
Temple view and framework hypothesis, or do they conflict in some way?

FOUR UNIDENTIFIED MILITARY-STYLE drones breached a no-fly zone and flew towards the flight path of Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s plane at sea near Dublin Airport late on Monday night, The Journal has learned.

The plane landed, slightly ahead of schedule, just moments before the incident happened at about 11pm. The drones reached the location where Zelenskyy’s plane was expected to be at the exact moment it had been due to pass.

The drones then orbited above an Irish Navy vessel that had secretly been deployed in the Irish Sea for the Zelenskyy visit.

Sources have said that the drones took off from the north-east of Dublin, possibly near Howth, and flew for up to two hours. Enquiries are being carried out to determine whether the drones took off from land or from an undetected ship.

It is not yet known who launched and controlled the drones or where the drones are now.

[I can make a guess!]

The incident mirrors similar drone incursions in Europe in recent months which led to the closure of airports in Brussels and Denmark and caused significant security tensions.

It is understood that the drones missed the approach of the Ukrainian leader’s plane and then turned their attention to the LÉ William Butler Yeats, the Irish naval vessel which was secretly deployed off Dublin.

Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world

The ex-wife of Hillsong Church's first black lead pastor insists his infidelity led to him being extorted by a trans-identified male prostitute, to whom she claims he paid $10,000 to keep quiet, even though he denies being unfaithful during his marriage.

During an interview on the “Girls Gone Bible” podcast in October, Toni Collier revealed that her ex-husband, Sam Collier, told her he was being extorted by a trans-identified prostitute months before she announced she was getting a divorce in 2023.

Toni Collier, who married Sam Collier in 2015, claimed she discovered her ex-husband had a pornography addiction and was paying women for sexual favors during the second year of their eight-year marriage, which was well before he was announced as Hillsong Church’s first black lead pastor in the U.S. in 2020.

“Our second year of marriage, I found out he had a porn addiction. He was hiring women for sexual favors, y'all. And then I would say I just was really isolated, and I was nervous to tell my parents and my friends, and then I didn't want to go through another divorce,” she revealed.

She said she tried to fix her marriage and assumed that conditions had been improving until 2023, when Pastor Collier told her he was being extorted.

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A suspect in attempted pipe bombings in Washington, D.C., has been arrested after remaining at large for nearly five years as an investigation into his motives continues.

United States Attorney General Pam Bondi discussed the details during a press conference at the U.S. Department of Justice headquarters Thursday alongside FBI Director Kash Patel, U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia Jeanine Pirro and other law enforcement officials to announce that Brian Cole Jr. was arrested early Thursday morning in connection with the placement of pipe bombs near the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee and the Republican National Committee in January 2021.

“We were going to track this person to the end of the Earth,” said FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino. “We didn’t have to track him to the end of the Earth” because “he wound up in Woodbridge, Virginia.”

Woodbridge is located 23 miles from Washington, D.C.

“He has been charged with violating 18 USC 844, which is use of an explosive device,” Bondi said. Pirro clarified that Cole was arrested for “transporting an explosive device in interstate commerce” and “the attempted malicious destruction by means of explosive materials.” If convicted under the statute mentioned by Bondi, Cole could face up to 10 years in prison on the former charge and between five and 20 years behind bars for the latter charge.

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JulieB67 said:

How about as a starting point start with Psalms and work your way through Proverbs. Quite a few verses in there about what ultimately happens to the wicked.

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I’ve read them as part of my many researches into scripture and there are written using a great assortment of literary devices. For example, psalms are mostly poetic and some of them were meant to be sang so a lot of symbolic teachings. I’ve yet to find support for annihilation there.

Three Language Groups Will Soon Have Bibles

Front-line workers in Nepal report that three language groups will soon have Bibles available in print for the first time. Praise the Lord for the years of faithful translation work that have been completed and for the culmination of this work. Pray for the next steps of the printing and distribution of God’s Word to people who have long waited to have it in their own languages. Finally, pray that every Bible produced in these new translations will reach fertile ground and lead to spiritual maturity and church growth among all of Nepal’s people

Call For Unity

Front-line workers request prayer for unity amonG Kyrgyz Christian communities, especially those including Muslim-background believers. Converts from Islam are often beaten, and the small Christian minority is generally oppressed by society. Due to this constant pressure, church groups often have trouble trusting each other and working together. “Pray for the unity of the persecuted body there,” a front-line worker requested, adding that unity among Christians will help to advance God’s kingdom.

Emotional Healing For Survivors

Kemi, her husband and several others were abducted in 2017 by radical Islamists. The militants killed most of the Christians, including Kemi’s husband, but spared Kemi. Instead, they marched her into the forest and abused her. For nine months she prayed that God would rescue her. One day, while fetching water, she was able to escape her captors. After living on wild fruit for three weeks, she finally stumbled onto a road, describing it as a miracle. Later she learned she was pregnant, and her community rejected her and the baby. Kemi became depressed, and she had trouble sleeping and taking care of herself and her child. With the help of VOM and a local counseling ministry, Kemi has received spiritual and emotional care. She can now sleep, work and serve in her local church. Front-line workers requested prayer for spiritual and emotional care for others like Kemi who have suffered for their faith.