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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

No I don't. But the logic is based on the fact that we have been digging for centuries. Grave robbers have been looking in all nooks and crannies. Lidar has helped identify more sites.
Your claim that (almost) everything ancient in Egypt is already dug up is NONSENSE. As I said, new sites are still being found and unknown parts of existing sites are still being found, and plenty of known things that haven't yet been excavated still exist. In. Egypt.
But heres the opposing claim I was responding to. That not finding any more of these precision vases must mean they are fake.
Those two things do not correlate.
So why did you not make comment on such a speculative claim from your side. You seem to be monioring the posts. Or are you only monitoring one side.
There is not a "your side", Steve. There is just you and the people you are arguing with. I read most of the other posts responding to you, but not always all of them. I read less of what you write back to them (TL;DR occurs a lot). I always eventually read what you wrote to me.
Give me a break. Do you honestly think the authorities of anything are always transparent. Thats the real consipracy. You are in reality peddling a conspiracy by claiming that authorities are always honest and trasnparent about what information they all out. That they have no vested interests.
Way to infer things that weren't implied. SMH. Your original "they are hiding things from us" is paranoid conspiracy speculation.
Your making humans gods.
I'm not interested in making gods. That's your thing.
Cairo: Egyptology in crisis
Hawass quickly became tainted along with the crumbling regime and was engulfed by damaging charges of corruption and mismanagement. On Sunday 17 July, Hawass was abruptly sacked as the Minister of State for Antiquities Affairs in an overhaul of the country’s cabinet, and his controversial reign as one of the most powerful men in the archaeological world finally came to an end.

Now thats not whacko's saying this. This was generally acknowledged.
What's the conspiracy supposed to be in that article? I didn't spot one.
I just think the whole idea of using the fact that we need to do more escavations which may or may not happen and when may or may not turn up more precision vases means these vases are not real and came from a neolithic time in pre dynastic Egypt.
@Stopped_lurking makes a good point, or rather implies a good question. When new high status graves from this period (predynastic to early dynastic) are found do they contain hard stone vases? If they do, they should be examined and tested. If they don't, or contain very few, why is that the case? Is this related to possible fakes in private collections? I don't know, but the questions are interesting.

For some reason your reply to my comment about new sites and digs you continued...
In fact counting all the out of place signatures we have enough already discovered works to do heaps of investigation on. I agree we are discovering new potential sites through tech like beneath the pyramids or undiscovered chambers in the Giza pyramid.
There is no "tech" below the pyramids.
Or the pyramids ability to generate energy in various forms such as acoustically.
Pyramids *DO NOT* generate energy. Both of these are nutso claims from pyramid freaks that have been around for decades. Do you want us to take you seriously, or not?
Petrie may have discovered the legendary Aswan Labyrith. But so far escavation has been denied. The Labyrith was said to rival the pyramids in magnificance and technological feat. But I guess this is another whacko conspiracy theory that even Petrie thought true.
Did you watch another "unchartedX" video? Sigh.

Now we get to your response to my criticism of the "find the best looking vases" scanning plan as bad science.
How does this happen when everyone is complaining about providence.
No one else is talking about "providence", just you. The rest of us are concerned about the provenance of objects for good reasons. These words are not the same. Please learn the difference.
We may be lucky to find a couple of dozen to test after excluding all private vases and what is made available to testers from museums.
Ideally all would be taken from a single cache, like a royal tomb with lots of objects to randomly sample.
They test what is given to them and appreciate what has been allowed. Like the rediculous and unreal call for blind tests by those arguing with you.
I'm not calling for blind tests. I am calling for uniform sampling. The sampling you are proposing is anything but uniform and unbiased.
But its the same bias.
It isn't.
All this restriction you want to place on those who investigate something you don't believe possible as a piori lol.
You are projecting it onto me. I am not involved in this testing nor do I have any plans to get involved with it. I question the claims made by your vase buddies, but that is irrelevant as I am not designing or executing a research plan. You are talking about a research plan that has confirmation bias built into it. That is *BAD* science.
You would not place thes restrictions on those supporting your ideas and assumptions.
I absolutely would. That's how science works.
If you want to find out the particular proprtird of particular vases proported to be Egyptian or from the Naqada culture then you home in on the ones that will most likely meet this criteria. There are literally 1,000s of vases we can be simple eyesight rule out and its a complete waste of time and money to do so. They can be immediately discounted.
Nope. You catalog the general features of an entire find and then take a balanced sample (by size, style, stone type, etc.) for detailed testing. Interesting questions include things like are softer stone objects more or less circular than hard stone objects. What about smaller verses larger? Etc. That is how you design a scientific study.
The Naqada culture and into the 1st dynasties pottery and vases have literally over 100,000 items. Stone vases, pots, dishes and the like number in 10.s of 1,000s. Are you seriously suggesting that we cannot know that these vases are precise unless we measure 10, 20, 50 or 80,000 vases.

Good. Plenty of objects to draw a sample from. That sample has to be at least dozens, perhaps a couple hundred.
Even the specific region and time includes 10's of 1,000s of vases. There was some 40,000 plus just under the Stepped pyramid ranging from soft alabasta imprecise vases that you can see by eyesight and 1,000s of potentially precise vases including I would say 100,000 plus vase fragments like this one I linked earlier.
Don't trust your eyes. MEASURE. Science works on measurement not "eyeballing".
They are also found under Mastaba 17 a predynastic pyramid like this one

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Now lets forget about how exactly precise the method was. The circular marks clearly show some sort of very stable turning going on. PS and its not from a bore stick or bow drill as this was not available or even invented yet until late in the Old Kingdom.
I was talking about sampling and you give a picture of a single object. Do you not understand what sampling is?
So how many vases should we test from these sites.
I gave a number above.
All of them or make a selection of them and if we want to show the precision choose the ones most likely to look like they would come close.
No, not that would "come close" to some idea of perfection. Ones that cover the variety of objects. The kind of testing you have in mind would probably need to exclude broken or damaged objects.
Yeah tests a few softer hand made ones just to show they are different. But they are from the same site. Heck we even have an image of one from done on the site itself above.
Absolutely the sample should contain objects of the different materials. That's how you tell if they are different -- measure both types.
Thats a silly comparison.
It certainly isn't. As I said you clearly don't know anything study design. That's fine. I just wish you would be OK admitting it.
For one theres 101 things you could study about a spider lol. Its legs compared to others. But even thats a specific thing. But the spider itself has many aspects. Whereas the vases if determining methodology is really a pretty single dimensional target. We have stone shaped in various hardnesses. Thats it. Thats precision tooling and machining science only.

If you wanted to find out something specific about the bightest stars or hardest rocks then including other stuff like softest rocks or dim stars will distort your study.
Before you can do a study of O-type main sequence stars you need to know how to define them and what is different about then and say ZZ Ceti stars or your study will be useless.
We already know there are less precise vases in softer stones. We can eliminate all softer stone vases.
No you can't. The difference between hard and soft stone objects is quite important if you want to eventually draw conclusions about construction methodology.
We could eliminate all times except the time period targeted.
If you can determine it, this would certainly be an actually reasonable selection criterion as it would eventually narrow the time period tested. Alternatively objects could be group by time period to see how they differ or are similar.
We can do seperate studies of softer stones or include a couple in the precision tests as done by Max and others.
Different kinds of stone: good. Mixing in measurements from different studies: Problematic.
I think for some reasons the strutiny over researchers testi9ng ideas that fall outside the generally accepted ideas causes them to suddenly increase the criteria to unreal proportions. I don't think they would demand such criterai for similar situations that were confirming their assumptions.
Huh?

Lol so the museum only allows around 10 vases per session and the aim is to find precision vases. You want to include known imprecise vases in that 10. How many lol.
They aren't "known imprecise vases until they have been demonstrated to be so by measurement.
Is one enough or will you complain that its not enough. If the vases are in the museums and have good providence from the period they are displayed under and look like they would more likely be precise.
Documentation on each object will be needed.
Why would they choose obvious imprecise ones. We have already studied the imprecise ones as we have tons of them. Seriously is that the conditions your stipulating on these testers. That they waste their precise opportunity to tests a few vases in museums on vases we already know are imprecise to just confirm their imprecise. Seems unreal.
To repeat a third time: If you don't measure you don't know. Knowledge comes from measurement, not hope. I'm sorry if science is too hard for you and the vase guys. (OK, not that sorry. Buck up, buttercups.)
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What genre is Job?

Bottom line up front, I thing Job is not historical narrative, but a story comparable to a parable. Although the events did not actually occur, it contains biblical truths. Particularly the truths about disinterested faith, meaning that we are not to worship God because of a promise of reward, nor out of fear of punishment. But solely because God is God and we are not. Your thoughts?
You seem to have given an answer to your own question. How can you be so certain that the events did not actually occur? I came across the following paragraph at the website Was Job a Man or a Myth?

"Man from Uz
First, take the way the book opens: “There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was Job” (Job 1:1). Now compare that with the beginning of Judges 17:1, which begins a story: “There was a man of the hill country of Ephraim, whose name was Micah.” Or compare it to the beginning of 1 Samuel: “There was a certain man of Ramathaim-zophim of the hill country of Ephraim whose name was Elkanah” (1 Samuel 1:1).

Now, one of the ways to assess whether a piece of writing is history or whether it bears the traits of fiction would be to compare how the books are written. The fact that Job begins the way those chapters begin, which are not presented as parable or fiction, is at least one pointer to the way readers would have taken it as they began to read this book. They would have taken it the way they took Judges or 1 Samuel — as an account of things that really happened. That’s my first argument."

Like the author of that paragraph, I believe Job was a real person.
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Trump's brokered peace - phase 1 being celebrated

I love how Trump said Egypt's President had been a "good friend since his fight against Crooked Hillary." Huh? Why Clinton? Why now? That's 9 years ago - what?

Oh yeah.

It appears El Sisi gave Trump $10 million dollars to fund his own campaign - and then Egypt won all these deals.

What a friend we have in .... Eeeeeeeggyyyyypppt.

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The law, the commandments, and Christians.

or worse yet, a particular debate partner, is only the road to pain in my 14 years on online forums. I would encourage you to take a deep breath in the power of Holy Spirit and step off that road.

I’m very sorry you’ve had that experience - most of my activities on ChristianForums I don’t regard as debates, and I have made several very good friends on this forum
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Please explain CCC 536 regarding Jesus and the Spirit: 'possessed in fullness' yet 'comes to rest on him'.

It is also interesting to contemplate that the God the Holy Spirit sent Christ our True God into the world by causing the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Theotokos - the Mother of God, to conceive Him, while Christ our True God in turn sent God the Holy Spirit into the world to serve as the Comforter and Paraclete to the Christians who had been grated onto the Body of Christ - the Church.

In Orthodox theology we, for this reason, really prefer to stress that the uncreated Son and Word of God, our Lord, God and Savior Jesus Christ, begotten of the Father before all worlds, and the uncreated Holy and Life Giving Spirit, our Lord and God who is everywhere present and fills all things, the Comforter and Paraclete, who proceeds eternally from the Father, both share in the divine essence of God the unoriginate Father, rather than allowing the Divine Essence to be regarded as some sort of impersonal field of divinity in which the three persons of the Trinity subside, which is deeply unsatisfactory. And regarding the Divine Essence as shared by the Father with His Only Begotten Son and His Holy Spirit, three uncreated, coequal and coeternal persons, ever One God, does not require one reject a belief in the filioque, since there have been Orthodox tolerant of it, such as St. Maximus the Confessor, who played a vital role in defeating the heresy of Monothelitism that infected the Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox churches as a result of a disastrously misguided attempt at reunification (which ironically probably caused the schism between the Maronites and the Syriac Orthodox).

However we do of course officially disagree with the Filioque, and for good reason, a position also taken by our Oriental Orthodox and Assyrian brethren.
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A conversation I am having right now with DeepSeek LLM/AI.

Test it yourself.

Go watch a video.

Then watch it again.

You'll know ahead of time who is going to say what and when.

In fact, you'll know how it ends before it even starts.

Yet the actors in that video had 100% freewill.
I get it now, you are trying to claim that the actors in the movie/video still had a free will to do otherwise, had they wanted to.

But that's also not what I'm saying or am trying to argue here also, it's about any other being knowing what anybody or anything will do 100%, and if they know 100%, then there is not any other way it can happen or go 100%, otherwise no being anywhere can know it 100%, because it's not 100%, and that's the very math/nature/logic of possibilities that either are or are not 100%, and no being anywhere can know them for 100% sure if they are not 100%.

In your video, if the actors could have ever been able to choose or do anything otherwise, even if that possibility was infantesimaly small, then no being anywhere could have ever known it for sure 100%, unless that possibility was absolutely 100%, and then and only then can you/me/they ever know it for 100% sure 100%.

It automatically results in not 100% full omniscience unless all possibilities are always absolutely 100%. Which would automatically mean that no other possibilities exist, etc.

God Bless.
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The Lutheran Hail Mary and the Orthodox Angelic Salutation

I had previously mentioned to my friend @MarkRohfrietsch and my other Lutheran friends such as @Ain't Zwinglian and @ViaCrucis and I think also my Anglican friend @Shane R that the Orthodox form of the Hail Mary tends to either be identical to the Roman Catholic one, or so similar in wording as to be effectively the same, but that there are Theotokia (Marian hymns) and antiphons in the Octoechos, or Eight Tones, the hymnal of eight weeks, that look very much like the Lutheran form of the Hail Mary in that they lack the request for intercessory prayer. However, I could not remember exactly where these were. While reading the Vespers for Sunday (said on Saturday) in the Eigth Tone I came across it, known as the Angelic Salutation.

Glory from the Menaion, if appointed, otherwise:

Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit, both now and ever and unto ages of ages. Amen

Theotokion:

O unwedded Virgin! * thou who ineffably conceived God in the flesh, * Mother of God Most High: * accept the supplications of thy servants, O all- immaculate one, * granting unto all cleansing of transgressions; * and, accepting now our supplications, ** pray thou that we all be saved.

Now lettest Thou Thy servant depart ...,” (the Evangelical Canticle known as the Song of Symeon, from Luke ch. 2, also known as the Nunc Dimitis) followed by the Trisagion. Then, the Angelic Salutation:

O Theotokos and Virgin, rejoice, * O Mary, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; * blessed art thou among women, * and blessed is the Fruit of thy womb, ** for thou hast borne the Savior of our souls. (This is normally repeated thrice)


Note: If it is a regular Sunday Vigil, we chant “O Theotokos and Virgin ...,” (Thrice). If it is one of the 12 great feasts, we chant the Troparion of the feast (Thrice). If it is a Sunday coinciding with some other feast, we chant “O Theotokos and Virgin ...,” (Twice), and the Troparion of the Feast (Once).


Thus we can see from the above rubrics that the Lutheran form of the Ave Maria does indeed have ancient Patristic precedent, even though the majority of Theotokia do indeed contain petitions, such as the one preceding the above. We can also say Martin Luther’s use of the Ave Maria mirrors the use of the Angelic Salutation in the Prayer Rule of St. Seraphim of Sarov (which is the closest Orthodox equivalent to the Rosary, consisting of typically 100 Angelic Salutations, along with the Our Father, and the Nicene Creed, prayed on a special leather Lestovka that normally costs around $200, but I was able to get one at a parish sale for $10 in a real stroke of luck; the lestovka being the traditional leather alternative to the prayer rope used by both the schismatic Old Believers but in much larger quantities by canonical Russian Old Rite Orthodox in Russia, Romania, Ukraine, Belarus and possibly Georgia, and in at least one parish in the United States (we also have some schismatics in Woodburn, Orgeon, who are of the “Priestless” variety believing the last canonical bishop died in the 18th century, meaning no Eucharist, a very sad condition; I would love to see an effort made to evangelize them, for indeed the Church of the Nativitiy in Erie, PA, was until the 1980s a Priestless parish), which was the norm before the Nikonian form introduced the Greek prayer rope; the original form of Lestovka has different sections for different prayers, for example a counter for 40 Kyrie Eleisons, a section for counting how many times one has Prayer of St. Ephraim the Syrian said repeatedly during Lent, with prostrations, a section for the Jesus Prayer, and other things; indeed there are so many different counters on the standard Lestovka that one can use it as a kind of analogue computer on which to implement a wide range of prayer rules, by using one section for multiplication and another for addition.

Of course, Eastern and Oriental Orthodox also use a regular English translation of the Ave Maria with intercessory prayers (this being the official English version used by the Syriac Orthodox), or add “Most Holy Theotokos, save us” to the Orthodox Angelic Salutation, and the antiphon “Through the intercessions of the Theotokos, Savior, save us” is commonly heard during the Eastern Orthodox Divine Liturgy, and there are other prayers of specific Marian devotion that usually feature intercessions in both the Byzantine (Eastern Orthodox) and the various Oriental Orthodox liturgical rites (Coptic, Syriac, Armenian, Ethiopian) and there is also the Western Rite Orthodox Communion. And a great many Theotokia from the Eastern Orthodox Divine Liturgy closely resemble the Angelic Salutation in structure, while containing intercessions as well as material proper to the liturgical occasion.

Thus hopefully my confessional Lutheran Orthodox friends will now feel confident if anyone challenges them on the antiquity of their version of the prayer - the correct answer is that the version of the Ave Maria prayed by Martin Luther very closely resembles the ancient Orthodox prayer known as the Angelic Salutation, which is probably a common ancestor of both the Western Hail Mary and of many of the Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox liturgical and devotional hymns to the Theotokos. In turn, the Angelic Salutation like other older Marian hymns such as All of Creation, by St. John of Damascus (used in the Divine Liturgy of St. Basil, as well as the newer and somewhat more commonly heard It Is Truly Meet used in place of All of Creation during the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom, written by an anonymous Athonite monk, which is still a thousand years old, but not from the eighth century) or Blessed Are You, O Mary, a late fifth/early sixth century hymn by the Syriac Orthodox hymnographer, St. Jacob of Sarugh (known as the “Flute of the Spirit: for his metrical homilies and hymns complemented those of the fourth century Harp of the Spirit, St. Ephraim the Syrian) show a common lineage back to the ancient Greek hymn Sub tuum praesidium , which survives on a third century papyrus, but could be much older, and was revitalized in the West by a plenary indulgence in the Roman Catholic Church in the 18th century, while the Eastern Orthodox have for at least a thousand years or so used this prayer at the end of Vespers, and the Armenians use it in Compline:

Beneath thy compassion,

We take refuge,

O Theotokos:

do not despise our petitions in time of trouble:

but rescue us from dangers,only pure one, only blessed one.


A particularly beautiful class of such hymns, those of which without intercessions might be of great interest to my Lutheran friends, are the Stavrotheotokia, which are hymns which pertain to the real and sorrowful moment when the Theotokos was with our Lord at the food of the Cross, at which time he made St. John the Beloved Disciple her adopted son (I suspect this was as much for St. John’s benefit as it was for hers; if we consider the very long life St. John enjoyed, before becoming the only Apostle to not be martyred but to repose of natural causes, and the short life expectancy of Galilean fisherman due to the dangerous nature of the work and the severe weather the Sea of Galilee remains notorious for even now, and the intemperate nature of St. John and St. James the Great during their formation which caused our Lord to give them the loving and gently amusing nickname “Sons of Thunder” (which is a testament to the gentle nature of Christ our True God, who had a sense of humor but was not cruel about it, nor, in seeking to guide his disciples in the formation of their character, did he resort to cruel manipulations but rather lovingly catered to the needs of each one), and also our Lord holding St. John at the Last Supper - it seems to me probable St. John and St. James were teenagers, and St. John was perhaps between the ages of 13 and 15 - this I should stress is a theologoumemnon, a theological opinion, and in this case a private one, and not an example of the many theologoumemna which are not official church doctrine but are the prevailing view among members of the Orthodox Church.

I would like to thank my friend @MarkRohfrietsch in particular for stimulating my curiosity and prompting me to research this interesting area of liturgical history, which I think Lutheran, Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox participants in Traditional Theology, and also our other participants, such as those from the Roman Catholic and Anglican churches, should all find beneficial (and we should try to get some more members of traditional churches - we need more Oriental Orthodox, some members of the Assyrian Church of the East or the Ancient Church of the East, some Old Catholics, perhaps some Moravians, some traditional liturgical Methodists, some liturgical Congregationalists and Reformed Catholics whether from the Reformed Episcopal Church or from liturgical Congregationalist parishes or Scoto-Catholic parishes in the Presbyterian tradition, and others…

*The number of these prayers varies slightly between the Old Rite and Sabaite-Studite typikon used with regional variations in Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Latvia, Lithuania, half of the Estonian church, Japan, the surviving parts of the Chinese Orthodox Church not exterminated under Mao, and with more extensive variations, in Serbia, Montenegro, Georgia, Mount Athos, the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Jerusalem and the Church of Sinai. In North America, the Sabaite-Studite Typikon is used by the massive OCA diocese in Alaska, founded by Russian missionary St. Herman of Alaska in the late 17th century, and home to saints such as St. Peter the Aleut, a 15 year old boy leading a fishing expedition who was martyred by Spanish officials in San Francisco in the 18th century, and St. Innocent of Alaska, and the recently glorified St. Olga, and by those Russian Orthodox parishes of the Orthodox Church in America on the Julian Calendar, and also by ROCOR, the Patriarchal parishes, and the Serbian and Georgian Orthodox. The formation of the Edinovertsy also provided a basis with Russian Orthodoxy (and by extension, Antiochian Orthodoxy) for the formation of the Western Rite Vicarates.

The Venting Thread

I am not sure why you seem to be opposed to the idea of everyone getting saved and being forgiven by God.

He isn’t opposed and is correct in his objection. What you describe isn’t biblical. It’s a principle held in universalism. They believe everyone will be saved. You may wish for the same but God honors our free will. If the wicked choose not to repent they won’t be forced nor will they spend eternity with Him as He promised.

~bella
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Morality without Absolute Morality

In other words...you can't think of an act without any context whereby we can determine the morality of said act. Can you agree with that, please? Then we'd be done.
No because I cannot agree with its premise in the first place. Your more or less asking me to agree that the fact we cannot find any facts that God is real there God is not real.

Part of the idea or perhaps the complete idea of using context to determine there is no moral objectives is the premise that morality must be rational in terms of reasoning out what is right and wrong by human reasoning about the subjective beliefs they place of what is morality. Its a self fullfilling and yet self defeating premise.

Why would I even agree with this. Its agreeing with your worldview beliefs and not anything objective and real itself. I don't think you understand how ideology is mixed in to this assertion.
Failing that, your only other option (and there are only 2) is to agree that the morality of all acts are determined by the context.
No they are determined by the moral truths in each and every moral situation. Those moral truths will depend on reason but will have some belief basis about what is moral or not. Context is just the subjectiove expression of that subjective belief and will be different to those involved.

But none prove moral truth. The contextual morals can contextualise evil just as much as good. It all depends on subjective or relative determinations.

I think you are trying to say that context somehow helps in determining moral truths. But it actually encourages moral nilhilism.
Which is it? It's not possible to disagree with both.
Yes it is and base morality on a completely different premise. That its not context as the determining factor but a moral truth that is never contextual. All context is doing is subjectifying about what is the moral truth.

If there are moral truths like laws and like how laws of physics works then just like we cannot contextualise laws of physics to mean different things in different situations. We cannot contextualise moral laws and truths. They are what they are and stand truth regardless of human subjective rationalisations.

Contextualising morality is like the arguement that you cannot get an "ought fron an is". The rationalisations and logic are trying to impose an "is" on morality as the basis for what counts as moral or not in contextualised situations. When its based on a completely different paradigm.

So even the paradigms are different for what counts as determining morality. One worldly, rational, logical and material and the other other worldly, sometimes issrational to logic and based on phenomenal belief.

If you discount phenomenal beliefs and experiences as irrational and make believe then you are limiting the possibilities to your worldview pardigm. So I would not even go along with the belief assumptions about what morality is and how we should measure it in the first place.
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Ezra Klein: Charlie Kirk was practicing politics the right way

No, your position is merely inaccurate. Most trans-gender individuals are not gender dysphoric, nor are they"faddists" although I am sure some exist.
What are they if they aren't dysphoric or faddists?
Where did this occur?
Everywhere. Here's something just on "preferred".

If you've looked into the subject of pronoun use in the past, you may have encountered the word "preferred" as a prefix to pronouns, as in the question "What are your preferred pronouns?"

However, it's best that this word is avoided when discussing pronouns. Preferences tend to indicate that one is choosing something, whereas identity is not a choice. "What are your pronouns?" is the appropriate question to ask others, and, "My pronouns are..." is the safest way to share your own.

https://www.verywellmind.com/why-pronoun-use-matters-5113217

We really didn't gave this until the 2000s. And grew exponentially. It started with just he/him, she/her and they/them. Then we started seeing more genders, requiring more pronouns. Until we ended up with at least 72 genders and many nonsensical pronouns.

Honestly I wonder where you have been?
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Trump's reputation will age like fine wine

Their criticisms, accusations, etc... should be given the merit they deserve, which is very little.
If their opinions came as a surprise and they had reasons to lie then I'd be suspicious. But they are confirming everything that we can see ourselves.

In which case what they says is not the only evidence against him. It's further confirmation of what we already know.
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