Kathleen30 said:

Prodomos no one doubts the ability of the astronauts in their profession . Yet that doesn’t change the reality of how they acted with the media. For someone who had just conquered the moon they should have been over the moon with joy. Instead as I said they were like death warmed up and rather subdued and very guarded with their words.

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That is how they were trained to communicate. Calm, accurate, nothing superfluous. There is also the fact that the press conference was held weeks after they had returned. That was weeks of medical examinations and debriefing including 2 weeks isolated at Tripler Medical Center in Hawaii, just in case they brought back some bug from the moon.

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Also there was question asked by a reporter how did they view the stars. Neil Armstrong states that he didn’t really see any and then Michael Collin’s jumps in and says I can’t remember seeing any stars. Michael was never on the moon. But he should have seen the glory of the universe and lots of stars whilst orbiting as pilot more so on the dark side of the moon of which he would have orbited around the moon well over a good 10 times and probably more. That’s how I see it and find it rather odd.

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No stars are visible during daylight. Michael Collins was likely preoccupied with monitoring his orbit or getting sleep when in the moon's shadow. He wasn't on a sightseeing trip.

Kathleen30 said:

Prodomos you mention something about being wrong ? And yes lead is certainly is used on X-rays for protection but it was also used for protection on the Apollo 11 too. The Apollo 11’s Capsule aluminium shielding amounted to a wall of lead about 7 millimeters thick so it was certainly part of Apollo 11’s protection

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The aluminium body of the command module was equivalent to 7mm of lead. There was absolutely no lead used in the Apollo missions.

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Not that it would have protected them as you say from the gamma rays or neutrons of the Van Allen Belt. And certainly not also by choosing the quickest way through the Van Ellen belt, that would mot have protected them one bit either. You may say that lived to tell the tale. That is of course if they ever went.

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Gamma radiation is not significant in the Van Allen belts. They are made up of charged particles, primarily electrons and protons. Neutrons are not charged particles (big hint in the name "neutron") and are not present in the Van Allen belts. The risk to the astronauts from radiation was relatively minor compared to the risk of sitting on the top of a controlled explosion, or the possibility of damage causing the loss of their oxygen.

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Then You write my of my comment ( of food for thought ) you write ( No its simply fear mongering from conspiracists ? Prodomos I would say to that when reading through the histories of our world. That conspiracy’s happen all the time and probably everyday. Just look through our history and you’ll find plenty. Actually the words conspiracy theory was hijacked by the CIA and being weaponised and used by them with negative connotations in a way to destroy anyone who didn’t conform to the Warren commission at the time. And it hasn’t stopped since . As conspiracy theorists continue to be slandered as tinfoil mad hatters until this very day. That’s aIl me say on the matter

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The level of conspiracy that would be necessary to fake the moon landings if they never happened is simply too mind bogglingly stupid to take seriously for a moment. It would require agreements between enemy nations spanning decades despite ongoing conflicts. You really need to have a tenuous grip on reality to be able to believe it.

This is separate to remind Jerusalem of the new FAITHFUL covenant...


Hosea 2:16 And it shall be at that day, saith the Lord, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali.
17 For I will take away the names of Baalim out of her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name.
18 And in that day will I make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field and with the fowls of heaven, and with the creeping things of the ground: and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the earth, and will make them to lie down safely.
19 And I will betroth thee unto me for ever; yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment, and in lovingkindness, and in mercies.
20 I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness: and thou shalt know the Lord.
21 And it shall come to pass in that day, I will hear, saith the Lord, I will hear the heavens, and they shall hear the earth;
22 And the earth shall hear the corn, and the wine, and the oil; and they shall hear Jezreel.
23 And I will sow her unto me in the earth; and I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; and they shall say, Thou art my God.

partinobodycular said:

Since 'irrational humans' are part of what's being tested, it would be poor protocol to use them as part of the standard. Therefore the only standard left for me to test them against is me. Using myself as the standard, and allowing for a reasonable deviation therefrom, do people behave rationally?

The answer unfortunately, is no. The question is, why? Is the standard unrealistic? Quite possibly.

Hence the question of reality's objectivity remains unanswered, but the course of action seems fairly clear... when they suffer, cherish them as if they're real... when they err, forgive them as if they're not.

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Ironically, even those we perceive to be the best and the brightest and smartest among us don't behave or even think rationally either.

Biased / programmed thinking and behavior is the biggest weakness of humanity. It makes us extremely susceptible and weak against external influences. Really makes us no different from animals or even insects, slave to our senses and feelings.

"Sentience" is also a poor test because it still uses a standard that serves as the foundation of human weaknesses.

"Consciousness" might be a better test but many would actually fail it in some scenarios.

This is probably why if superior alien species exist, they haven't formally introduced themselves to us yet, because if they are truly conscious / self-aware, we'd be like animals to them.

HARK! said:

If that's the case; why are central bankers, all over the world, creating more funny money to buy it up as fast as they can lay their hands on it?

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Because stupid is as stupid does?

Don't go into dept over speculative deals. Just don't. The bottom could drop out and then you're left owing more than what you bought is worth. That's how a lot of banks got in trouble when the real estate bubble popped.

I’m wondering if anyone here knows of a reputable place I could find any tactile icons? I’m looking for a gift for a blind friend at our parish. Thanks

Reading the posts...

One grandfather was a drunk for a significant portion of his life. I know this because he told me. He told me how he got drunk, and the event that convinced him to give it up. He told me as a warning: He was convinced that a tendency toward alcoholism ran in the family. Given what we know about alcoholism, he may well have been right.

If his propensity toward alcoholism is genetic, should we think that efforts to get alcoholics "on the wagon" are useless? But if they are useless, how was it that this grandfather of mine went from being a drunk to sober the rest of his life in the span of just a few days? Shouldn't that be just as useless? If it's all useless, why did he warn me about the tendency to drink? Was he mistaken? And what of me taking his warning to heart and not drinking? Am I mistaken as well?

Remember, we're talking about something that's supposed to be "baked in." That's why my grandfather used his experience to warn me. Was my grandfather mistaken that someone with a tendency to be a sot could avoid becoming a sot? But if he was mistaken, what of his own experience?

What does his experience say about the topic under discussion, which is also supposed to be "baked in?"

JulieB67 said:

I asked if you a question and you sidestepped once again.

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I've never sidestepped. You just continually fail to grasp a simple concept, which (again and again) is this:

People are not "just people." There is the person, and there is the tempter (or his own) operating in them.

You just don't get it, and there's a very legitimate scriptural reason that you can't get it, no matter how many times it's repeated. It can be set right in front of your eyes and you will continually fail to grasp it. And will deny it instead, as it applies to yourself. It's quite funny to observe, but at some point it's also just as sad. Because I do post precisely to rub that spot, to try to make it obvious and then the bad actors "flare up." It's not even you as a child of God doing it.

JulieB67 said:

That verse does not apply to Satan and his angels. We both know they have already been judged to the Lake of Fire. They are not in the book of life. So that verse does not even refer to them.

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See above, rinse, repeat.

You see only people. There is no such creature on earth. There are people and there are the devil and his messengers both walking in the same pair of shoes. Openly shown and evidenced in the N.T. Gospels by Jesus, continually.

Mark 4:15 is a reality for everyone

Just look at where you landed. God says "love your neighbors as yourself". Your SELF.

And you instead promote them to burn alive forever (or be eternally annihilated as if that is better) and you let yourself, your own "sinning SELF" off the hook, as if you are the better sinner (or insert whatever SELF justification formulas suit you.)

The reality IS you landed in the exact opposite place of Jesus' Own Command and you STILL can't see it.

Sad, really

But I know Jesus will save you anyway. Not so much for your adversary tho

bèlla said:

We used to play a bingo game together and my mother joined in and it was fun. My daughter and I were on a team and the competitions were fierce. But it was evident by the level of time and spending the app was monopolizing people’s lives. The spending was out of hand and well into the thousands and I remembered a quote Yuval Harari made at WEF that encouraged me to quit.

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It's crazy how wasting people's time is a lucrative business. I suppose it's like selling drugs. Many people also do this on social media platforms as influencers with time-wasting content that doesn't add value to anyone.

I still play a simple blocks game app with mom. Not more than 15 mins a day. The objective is simply beat each other's high score.

their purpose was distraction and a method for killing time for useless people

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Or turning useful people into useless people.

But when you’re losing most of the day that’s a problem.

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It's not just video games. Men can be very involved with hobbies and even fiercely protective of them. I used to have the same problem. But I started losing interest in everything but a few things.

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I'm not sure what plenary authority over National Guard deployments has to do with deportations.

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Trump wants to deploy the NG to Chicago to protect ICE.

Strong in Him said:

If God blots people's names out of the book of life when they sin how do you account for the fact that David sinned, but repented and was called a man after God's own heart? He sinned more than once.
If God blots people's names out of the book of life when they sin, Peter's name mustn't be in there - unless God wrote it in again afterwards, then blotted it out again when Peter was accused of hypocrisy.
If a Christian has their name removed from the Book of Life the first time that they sin after conversion, none of us would be here. It would also have been wrong of Jesus to tell us to forgive 70 x 7. Why should we, if God himself is unable to?

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Exactly. Blot, write back in again, reblot, rinse and repeat

There is a much shorter track through this morass of scriptural technicalities.

Sin are simply "not counted" against people, per 2 Cor. 5:19 for example.

But sins are counted against the devil and his messengers who happen to operate "in people"

It's such a critical point, but unfortunately nearly always overlooked, because it's a present tense reality and our adversary fights against being discovered "in us." Anyone who has experienced internal/mind temptations such as Paul notes in Romans 7 "should" be able to figure out this activity is from the TEMPTER.

but alas, the tempter (and his own) has been around for long enough to keep himself on the downlow

Amo2 said:

Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Strange, that so many people worship a God or believe the testimony of a book which states that God Himself said the above words, while basically believing the testimony to be a lie.

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Genesis 1:1-2 NRSVUE
1 When God began to create the heavens and the earth, 2 the earth was complete chaos, and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters.

The Bible doesn't say how long the earth was formless and empty before God began to create it in those 6 days. Only that it was so when God began to create it by giving it form.

I recall when I was younger and had way more patience.

Since the development of these digital technologies, my inner lament of having to watch a video that is more-than-five-minutes .. is evidence.

But one thing I learned from this.

Though discovering that I have no patience, I have learned to "exercise patience."

So perhaps exercises of a similar nature and prayer can be helpful in the day to day.

Psychological things can be quite complex, so having more than one way to deal with them is more effective than just one thing.

johansen said:

paul in my opinion mixes up "law" and "knowledge of transgression" and "law of moses" with the tree of knowledge of good and evil. and over the last half dozen years in various forums i point this out.. usually no one replies to argue he doesn't mix this up.

I think peter made the same mistake but it is not overt and to my knowledge, no one seems to be interested in arguing about peter and potentially James' positions, they would rather argue paul is correct.

So when Peter stands up at Pentecost and declares to the masses "God in former times over looked such matters but now commands everyone everywhere to repent"

well... God has always been commanding everyone everywhere to repent, and i seem to be the only person on the entire internet who has ever pointed this out (yes seriously, if you can find someone who has written some article to the effect that peter was wrong in declaring this, please link it to me) . its just a matter of.. repent to which law? the gentiles were not under the torah, but the ten commandments has always been.. pretty much self evident.

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Don't you believe that the bible s God's inspired word? That He inspired the human writers (Moses, Jeremiah, Matthew, John, Peter, Paul etc.) to write His truth? If you believe that Peter and Paul (and possibly the other human authors) made mistakes in what they wrote which is in the bible, what is the basis of your faith? How can you be sure, for example, that John wasn't mistaken when he recorded Jesus saying, "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." John 14:6?

Always in His Presence said:

it could have happened in November when it was originally scheduled and agreed upon -

it is scheduled for THIS November to be in committee.

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Oh, so it's scheduled to happen, but hasn't happened yet. So you're saying that democrats should just trust that the GOP will bargain in good faith a month from now, when there's no government shutdown to force their hand?

Yeah, we know how that works.

Always in His Presence said:

Schumer is using it as an excuse.

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Schumer is using the shutdown as a tactic, to force the GOP to come to the table and negotiate. That they haven't, and don't seem willing to, shows the electorate that the GOP doesn't care about them, or whether or not their health care can be affordable.

But, rather than deal with the issue of health care, the GOP would rather throw blame around and pretend they're more than willing to talk about this....later. When their back isn't against the wall.

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Ok, thanks all for your help.

I still don't really understand so please be patient.

What about clothing? We weren't meant to wear clothing and only did so after Adam and Eve sinned. Are we supposed to be naked? I don't understand why food is the one thing that is picked up as something men only did after Adam and Eve sinned since almost everything we do now is due to Adam and Eve sinning e.g. wearing clothes, being mortal etc.

Many thanks and God bless, as always.

Dan Perez said:

And you never read Rom 16:25. and 26 and you make me. AGOG. !!

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Of course I read it, but I also read Phil. 1:10, did you? I know it's easy to believe that everything is the same, but it isn't.

I know the mystery in Rom. 16:25, 26 is denied by almost everyone, but what is it actually about? It can't be about the mystery hidden in God of Eph. 3:9 which says "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world (Gr. aions) hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:"

Rom. 16:25 says "... and by the scriptures of the prophets ...", so it was in the Scriptures but under a veil, the mystery of Eph. 3:9 was hidden in God, nowhere to be found in Scripture until Paul received it's revelation.

When you read Romans it goes in chapter 5 back to the sin of Adam, it puts Adam against Christ. Note, not Eve, not Adam and Eve, but Adam alone. According to general believe, Eve must be the one who first sinned, she listened to Satan (the "serpent") — not Adam — and she plucked the apple — not Adam — from the forbidden tree and than gave it to Adam, but in Romans Adam and not Eve is mentioned. Why? We read by one man in Rom. 5:12 "... as by one man sin entered into the world ...", not one woman, not "one" woman and man, but one man, Adam. What happened with Adam — his sin — happened before Eve was even created, that is the mystery in 16:25, 26.

Aristarkos

This teaching is under the Old Covenant God had with his people Israel (Jews only). But much of it is taught to us again in the New Testament under the New Covenant God has with his people Israel (Jew and Gentile by faith in Jesus Christ), the body of Christ. And what is repeated for us under the New Covenant, we are to apply to our lives in obedience to our Lord.

Now under the New Covenant we are taught that in the last days, which I believe began with the birth of Christ, there will be people of faith in Jesus Christ who are filled with the Spirit of God (all who believe in Christ have the Spirit) who will prophesy, see visions, and dream dreams. And to prophesy is to speak God’s messages to the people. So prophecy is not always (or primarily) predicting the future. So, we should not discount prophecy, dreams, and visions, but we should test everything against the New Testament Scriptures to make certain they are not against the truth.


[Acts 2:12-18; Joel 2:28-29; Matthew 7:15-23; Matthew 24:11-14; John 10:1-15; Romans 16:17-19; 2 Corinthians 11:3,13-15; Ephesians 4:11-16; Philippians 3:2; 2 Peter 2:1-22; 1 Thessalonians 5:19-22; 1 Timothy 1:3-7; 1 Timothy 6:3-10; 2 Timothy 3:1-9; 1 John 4:1-6; Jude 1:1-25]

For we do have people among us today who profess faith in Jesus Christ and who call themselves prophets and/or teachers, some of whom claim that God speaks to them through dreams or visions, whose words are against the teachings of Christ and of his New Testament apostles. And some of them are indeed leading the people to follow after false gods of man who are lying to the people about what the Scriptures teach. And many people are blindly following them. And they are teaching that we do not have to obey God and his commands and that we can keep sinning and still have life in Christ.

But if we are of genuine biblical faith in Jesus Christ, we should be those who love the Lord our God with all our heart and with all our soul, and so we want to obey our Lord and his commands. We want to do what pleases God and to not live to please the sinful desires of the flesh. Yes, obedience to God and to his commands is required of us in the New Testament under the New Covenant God has with his people who believe in Jesus Christ. We are not under the Old Covenant liturgical and ceremonial laws, but we have to obey God’s teachings to us under the New Covenant God has with us.

For, if sin continues to be our practice, and not obedience to God, according to the Scriptures we do not know God, we are not in fellowship with Christ, and we do not have eternal life with God. So, we need to take this to heart.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]


But under the New Covenant we don’t have all the laws about putting people to death that they had under the Old Covenant. We are not to kill anyone, but we are to leave all retribution to the wrath of God. Now we, as the body of Christ, though, are to exercise church discipline on those within the church who are living in sin and who refuse to repent and who are impacting and influencing the rest of the body of Christ to follow suit (1 Corinthians 5 as an example). And we are not to put up with false teaching (2 Corinthians 11:1-4), but we are to be followers of the truth who expose the lies.

As the Deer

By Martin J. Nystrom
Based off Psalm 42:1

As the deer panteth for the water
So my soul longeth after You
You alone are my heart's desire
And I long to worship You

You alone are my strength, my shield
To You alone may my spirit yield
You alone are my heart's desire
And I long to worship You

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linux.poet said:

No offense taken, but I’m actually your sister in Christ. I need to edit my signature again, as I noticed the line that says as much is being cut off.

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Ok! It’s unusual for women to be interested in Linux

Romans 13:1-5 said:

Every person is to be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. 3 For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same; 4 for it is a servant of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a servant of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil. 5 Therefore it is necessary to be in subjection, not only because of wrath, but also for the sake of conscience.

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I honestly think Catholics believe that Romans 13 is the inspired Word of God, and therefore, they should follow the State of California law in how they run their hospital. As we have established, this situation is not an abortion and therefore does not violate the numerous Scriptures against abortion or Catholic teaching against abortion. If it was an abortion, they would have the religious freedom not to perform it, but that is not the case here.

Therefore, the Catholics should be free to follow their religion, by actually following their religion. I don't see a religious freedom issue here. All I see is a medical tragedy that was handled improperly as regards the law. Neither Christianity nor the law are at issue, because California laws allows for full-on abortions and definitely wasn't scaring doctors away from the correct procedure, and Christianity says, in the absence of conflict with other Scriptural regulations, you submit to the laws of the government. The hospitals need to update their procedure to better deal with this situation in the future, minor detail.

But maybe there's some other thing in the Magisterium somewhere that complicates this. I wouldn't know it because I'm not Catholic.

What I do know is that if I have a miscarriage or other nonviable pregnancy in my womb, I want it removed without having an argument. I'm anti-abortion as they come, but I'm not up for dying of hemorrhage or sepsis because of pesky ethics dithering. I'm as anti-abortion as they come, but I think I will be going to the secular hospital until things change, as part of my religious freedom to not die of preventable medical causes.

Genesis just talks about Adam and Eve facing death as a punishment for their sin. I was wondering what would have happened after that? Would they be resurrected and judged by Jesus? If they are saved I wonder what about Cain? Thanks.