The thief on the cross is prophesied and also if you look in faith, the thief on the cross is one one side of Cherist, and the other thief who did not believe on the other and Jesus in the middle, as Jesus divides the sheep from the goats on HIOs right hand and thse on te left, so the thief did all the good He could and also eceived mercy for believin entirely in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Can anyone notice He makes intercession for the transgressors, so we see Jesus does that very thing for the transgressor He was numbered with right there on the cross.




Isaiah 53:12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.



Matthew 27:38 Then were there two thieves crucified with him, one on the right hand, and another on the left.

John 19:18 Where they crucified him, and two other with him, on either side one, and Jesus in the midst.



Matthew 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

Stopped_lurking said:

What is a Euclidean mind (outside of the the brothers Karamazov, that literary construct is not a accepted model of minds that I know of) and why should we weigh eschatological glory against earthly suffering. Even if we go with the rather undefined concept of a rational mind, why wouldn't it be a able to weigh eschatological glory against earthly suffering? I'll check back tomorrow

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This is an extremely dense and sophisticated pair of sentences I am not sure my childish brain can understand ...

However I think this is your main question: "why should we weigh eschatological glory against earthly suffering"?

To “weigh” eschatological glory against earthly suffering is to ask whether the promise of ultimate redemption or joy can justify the immense pain of the present world.

In The Brothers Karamazov Ivan refuses this weighing:

“I don’t want harmony. I don’t accept it. I return the ticket.”

He’s saying: even if all suffering is redeemed in the final accounting, a rational moral sense cannot accept a system that requires children’s torture as its precondition. That’s the "Euclidean" protest - the "economy" of God is unacceptable - to Ivan.

Ivan's position is that the Euclidean mind sees two incommensurable magnitudes - infinite glory versus finite but unbearable suffering - and cannot integrate them.

Abraham1st said:

sin was the transgression of the law, now sin is all who do not believe in the righteousness of Christ, see all of 1 John 3.

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1 John 3:22-24 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

Pray that Japan's recently-elected incoming Prime Minister Sanae Takaichi shows favor to Christians, Christian ministries & organizations

anyone who causes offences to the gospel we have received should have this done to them. ( look who they are bringing with them in these law topics in verse 20)


Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
19 For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.
20 And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.

Its a bit ironic when you consider in the west we are just coming to realise the whole forced conversion of trans ideology on our kids lol.

Nevertheless a good and surprising result and one I think may happen more in this political climate where some of these radical progressive ideas have gone to far and dimissed not only other peoples rights to practice their beliefs. But also reality itself.

It seems Totalian world when Christians gathered and doing what they have done for 2000 years in praying to God for others to help them from their troubles and spiritual affliction that this now be regarded as illegal.

It seems two worldview beliefs have clashed and the world was winning. Hopefully now we will see a bit of balance. But I don't think so by how it seems that anti Christian beliefs are rising in the wake of Kirks death. Though this had already been rising along with antisemetism.

But strangly at the same time there is this awakening to the truth which in turn is causing a certain number of radicals to double down. So even though we are seeing some wins for common sense really at the same time we are seeing acts that are defying common decency and outside the law and people know it and don't care. Its like the line was drawn and crossed and now its war.

maybe everyone can notice this is a thread for dispute not for edification, and that it is also well answered by faith, against suggestions of law.

essentialsaltes said:

Possibly, they know it would be illegal to actually produce, but it was worth spending taxpayer money designing it to own the libs.

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The way this administration is firing its experienced lawyers makes me question whether legality figures into their thinking at all.

o_mlly said:

If we live in community then our social contract extends and limits citizens' rights to pursue happiness.

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Ah, but what about when that 'social contract' fails its moral obligation to the old, the poor, the young, the vulnerable, the neglected, the outcasts, or a myriad other socially disenfranchised and disaffected groups? I would argue that in such situations your venerable social contract gets superseded by the overarching right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. 'Community' isn't sacrosanct, but those rights are.

So yes, where your 'social contract' fails, and it often does, then any claim to authority that the community may think it has becomes null and void.

Everyone has been given the gift of life, and with that life comes the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and no entity exists that can usurp that right.

Valletta said:

Yes, but the argument was that it would be acceptable if the sisters only served Catholics.

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As a private charity that doesn't accept public money, apart from tax relief.

Valletta said:

They refused to check a person's religion at the door to the soup kitchen.

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Okay, but what has that got to do with providing health insurance to their employees?

Valletta said:

In this case the point was made that the hospital is a "public" hospital. It is not a rare occurrence for an ER at a hospital to send someone to another hospital, I hope that in this case the lawsuit is not brought with any thought against freedom of religion.

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In this case, they didn't transfer the person, but made an actively hemorrhaging patient get herself there which is a refusal of necessary emergency service.

Paulwat said:

God is about love and forgiveness. I refuse to believe he would allow such a place like hell to exist, let alone send people there for mistakes.

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Sin and mistake are not the same thing. Sin seperates people from God, but sin must be a willfully made choice, it is freely made choices that make the difference, not mistakes. However, if I make a mistake and it hurts someone, I say sorry. God accepts apologies, and forgives.

Officials restrict Chicago airspace, citing 'credible threat' of attacks on agents​

The Federal Aviation Administration confirmed a temporary flight restriction was put in place “at the request of the Department of Homeland Security."

The restrictions, which largely target drones, include aircraft from the surface to 400 feet, citing “security reasons.” The restricted zone extends in a 15-nautical-mile radius stretching from downtown Chicago to north of Evanston, west of Elmhurst and south of Dolton.

The American Civil Liberties Union said the restrictions could “effectively block private citizens and the media from using drones to observe and track ICE raids and arrests.”

“These restrictions appear to follow a disturbing pattern with the Trump Administration — attempting to limit the ability of the public and the media to monitor and demand accountability for their actions,” Ed Yohnka, director of communications and public policy at the ACLU of Illinois, said in a statement.

CHAP. XVII.—THE CHRISTIANS ARE REFUSED POLYCARP’S BODY.

But when the adversary of the race of the righteous, the envious, malicious, and wicked one, perceived the impressive nature of his martyrdom, and [considered] the blameless life he had led from the beginning, and how he was now crowned with the wreath of immortality, having beyond dispute received his reward, he did his utmost that not the least memorial of him should be taken away by us, although many desired to do this, and to become possessors of his holy flesh. For this end he suggested it to Nicetes, the father of Herod and brother of Alce, to go and entreat the governor not to give up his body to be buried, “lest,” said he, “forsaking Him that was crucified, they begin to worship this one.” This he said at the suggestion and urgent persuasion of the Jews, who also watched us, as we sought to take him out of the fire, being ignorant of this, that it is neither possible for us ever to forsake Christ, who suffered for the salvation of such as shall be saved throughout the whole world (the blameless one for sinners), nor to worship any other. For Him indeed, as being the Son of God, we adore; but the martyrs, as disciples and followers of the Lord, we worthily love on account of their extraordinary affection towards their own King and Master, of whom may we also be made companions and fellow-disciples!

Alexander Roberts, James Donaldson, and A. Cleveland Coxe, eds., “The Encyclical Epistle of the Church at Smyrna,” in The Apostolic Fathers with Justin Martyr and Irenaeus, vol. 1, The Ante-Nicene Fathers (Buffalo, NY: Christian Literature Company, 1885), 42–43.

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More attributes of God and Christ alone being applied to Polycarp in the above inflated testimonies. Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is the only man after the fall, who has been blameless since the beginning. Nor do any of us sinners have holy flesh. Our Flesh being the old man which all of us must contend and do battle with. As the apostle Paul clearly taught in his testimonies, not to mention Paul’s testimony as to when the saved will receive immortality as well, which the above inflated testimony also declares Polycarp had already received beyond ability to dispute. And what of Polycarp himself according to the above testimony, thinking himself to be so greatly admired, as to his body being worshipped in the place of Jesus by professed Christians after his death? If this testimony be true, which I begin to doubt the further along I read.

Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. 18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

1Th 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Jhn 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; 27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

stevevw said:

I am not sure what you mean. How would this help as skeptics would say it is unrelaible having poor provedence only going back to the mid 20th century. In fact you already have these examples in the vases that are being objected to. These have the machining marks.

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Which archaeologists when arguing for and presenting the orthodox methods, used vases with uncertain provenance? My guess is that they have vases with very good provenance and perhaps they compare vases with unknown provenance to those with good provenance. That is not using vases with bad provenance to argue for a new manufacturing method. You asserted that there is a double standard, I'm curious in what way?

Aldebaran said:

The "huge organization" is the place where "little guy" applied for a job, and was granted it while understanding what "at will" employment is.

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Which ignores the question.

Aldebaran said:

Now you're engaging in "whatabouts".

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Not at all.

rambot said:

I don't see that.
https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive?utm_source=adfontesmedia&utm_medium=website

Looks like smattering over the spectrum.

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Actually, according to the site you posted, other than Fox and WSJ most of the large mainstream media lands on the left side including Al Jazeera.

Aaron112 said:

ooops. Are you referring to the circumcision of the heart that only God does ?

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that only God does ?​

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Deuteronomy 10:16 ​

Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.

Jeremiah 4:4
Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah
and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings.

A vehicle crashed near the steps of Los Angeles City Hall shortly after 4 p.m. on Friday, prompting an evacuation of the building and road closures in the area, according to authorities.

The driver remained in his car during a nearly two-hour standoff with police, until he voluntarily emerged shortly before 6 p.m. and was taken into custody. A crisis team with the Los Angeles Police Department spoke with the driver by phone before he walked to 1st and Spring streets, where he was handcuffed by officers, according to KTLA.

Helicopter footage appeared to show there were two posters on the car’s dashboard and an oxygen tank in the passenger seat. The posters appeared to have the written messages, “Don’t want to hurt no body,” and “I need ur help D. Trump U.S. Vet.”

rjs330 said:

Yeah I dont think he was ever "nice" either. But he was effective. And this time around he gets it more i think. The Trump we see today is tge direct result of what he faced last time and

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Trump being forced to take responsibility for his actions always has had a history od getting his ire up. And fair point why should he take responsibility for anything? Nothing bad is ever his fault.

rjs330 said:

The attacks, the deep state and political prosecutions, assassination attempts all built into him the determination to win like never before. He's learned lessons from last time. He was unlearned last time, but he understands now.

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Actually it's vengeance. It's not a righteous holy war against those who've slightest him.

There's a difference.

rjs330 said:

The Democrats and leftists created this.

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Lol!!
It is ALWAYS rhe democrats fault.
Even trumps behaviour now is democrats fault.
Just like trump says it's never his fault he's somehow got his supporters to parrotnit as well.

"I didn't HAVE TO use well over 200 executive orders in 5 months to imitate a dictator but the democrats MADE ME do it."

This is how America's ideals fall apart.

eclipsenow said:

As @HARK! said "The American voters have spoken." Those here illegally will be removed, those who self-deport will have a chance to become American citizens. The move by the Biden administration, letting in 10 to 20 million people, so many millions not vetted or improperly vetted, created a disaster that this administration is cleaning up. A lot of people were exploited as a result of Biden administration policies, and I feel sorry for them. But we can't set a precedent of letting any group violate our border laws and swamp the nation with illegals in order to win future elections.

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BPPLEE said:

Then why are you supporting this man who was wanted for a gun violation and had a gun in his car?

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I’m not. I’m saying he has assimilated perfectly into American society.

Marilyn C said:

I said quote : - Jesus will come to the Mount of Olives just as God`s word said - (Acts 1: 11 & Zech. 14: 4) And that is to deliver Israel and bring vengeance upon the rebellious. So please read more carefully.

Jesus comes for His Body prior to the trib, and after the trib, He will come (with His angelic army) to earth for a time to deliver Israel, judge the rebellious and then set up His kingdom rule through Israel, (as promised).

Then the Lord returns to His own seat of power and authority in the third heaven, given by the Father. (Ps. 2: 6 Eph. 1: 20- 22) It is from there he will rule over all God`s great kingdom.

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Hi Marilyn,

When Jesus returns to earth to stand on the Mt. of Olives, He will sit on King David's throne in Jerusalem for next thousand years.

Of course, that does not restrict Jesus to earth during that time. So, imo, Jesus will be going back and forth between Jerusalem here on earth and His Throne in the third heaven.

At the end of the thousand years, when Satan is loosed to deceive the nations again, it likely that Jesus will be in the third heaven at that time. Since while on earth, Jesus will rule the nations with a rod of iron to prevent any such rebellion.

Pepperdoodle said:

I didn't say it all was their fault, but they aren't as innocent as they claim to be.
Of course there were some from the Right involved.
Do you think the Left had nothing wrong they did that day?

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No. I do not think “The Left” had anything to do on that day.

walter45 said:

Could you please explain to me why Jesus uses these words: "will not see life" at John 3:36 and at Matthew 7:14 "the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."

I would appreciate any light you can shed on the subject. I am just trying to make sense of these two scriptures.

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I'm having a little trouble figuring out what you are after, here. Is there something about those two verses that is puzzling you?



"Will not see life" harkens back to quotes and references all through the Bible—particularly in the New Testament—concerning spiritual life. Ever since Adam's disobedience in the Garden, we are spiritually dead, until we are "born again"—born from above, by the Spirit of God. (This is God's doing, and, it is evident that not all people experience it the same way; some may not even know at first that it has happened. Some say things like, "One day I just realized that I believed!")

But John 3:36 expands that fact of being given life by God, which is in THIS temporal existence of ours an "already-but-not-yet" sort of thing, into the eternal life aspect of Salvation. We (believers) are saved during this life, but that life we now to some degree experience will be SEEN when we see Him as He is, in Heaven. HE IS our life. (1 John 3:2)

John 3 begins with Jesus' conversation with the Pharisee, Nicodemus; it is a very well-known passage about being born of the Spirit of God (who is as unaccountable as the wind in this context, does what it does without reference to what people do), and about belief and condemnation, and about spiritual light and darkness. Then Jesus moves on to another place where he was with his disciples and baptized. John the Baptist speaks about Jesus then, and it is my opinion that the rest of that chapter (verses 31-36) is also John the Baptist speaking. It could have been John the apostle, to whom the Gospel of John is attributed, adding his own commentary after quoting John the Baptist, and, I suppose, it could have been Jesus—regardless, it is the inspired word of God, and fits the rest of that chapter, and fits the whole book of John.

The apostle John also wrote 1st, 2nd and 3rd John, in my opinion, because they all sound like the same author as wrote John 3, and focus on much the same issue, though different aspects of it. They are worth reading, even if only because they shed light on this verse you are asking about. (Keep any Bible verse in the immediate context and in the context of all of scripture. It is easy to be misled by considering any verse by itself. Scripture always agrees with Scripture; anywhere it seems to contradict it is either a language issue or teaching method or some other such thing, or (more likely) a misunderstanding by the reader.)



These verses were not written in English, and in translating, it is hard to make them 'mean' the same thing they do in the Greek. The versions that try to explain often do so to the detriment of plays on words and symbolism and so on that Jesus used. So try to hold any one passage loosely in your mind, and read the Bible voraciously to gain depth behind the single verses that you have questions about.

We know that elsewhere (John 14:6), Jesus said that HE is the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE. Nobody can come to the Father (the "Heavenly Father") but by HIM. And in John 10:9, he even uses the same "figure" of the gate through which one goes and is saved.

That few 'find it' is self-evident, I think. However, it is also worth considering it a play on words, in that, as I mentioned, some realize that they now believe, so it is with "finding" The Way. Some say, "Well, yes, but no! It found me!"

Our wills are totally involved in the faith, the desire for Christ, the work of obedience, repentance and thoughts concerning God. But it is not our wills that save us, nor even that drive us to Christ. We believe because GOD 'gives us to believe' —not because we considered it a practical good idea. We yield our will to him because GOD made us spiritually alive. "We do so because it is so."

State Medicaid programs and other policies have had a substantial impact on the effectiveness of the Hyde Amendment, a longstanding prohibition on federal tax dollars funding abortions that has been attached to spending bills for half a century, a new research report suggests.

The Charlotte Lozier Institute, the research arm for the grassroots pro-life activist organization Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America, released its updated calculations of the number of lives saved by the Hyde Amendment on Tuesday, the provision's 49th anniversary.

Michael New, a senior associate scholar at CLI and an assistant professor of social research at The Catholic University of America, authored the report. He was aided by researchers Mia Steupert, Tessa Cox and Elyse Gaitan.

Researchers considered data from all 50 states, plus the District of Columbia, from 1976 to 2025 to determine the overall impact of the Hyde Amendment.

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