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peter2 · 2025-12-05T22:03:14-0600

Mary is the woman that tells Gabriel yes, likely assents this yes is valid for her son too, at least as long as Jesus 's not given the signal for the end of her protection, when she, with Joseph, finally discover him in the temple.

I feel it like Jesus' protection switches then from hers to God's, and she tells "yes" to this change as well.

Which makes me assume she tells yes to the death of Jesus too. Actually, i'm not sure, and thus is it i have a question please :
Hadn't there been this episode of his 12 year od in the Temple, wouldn't have Mary tried and avoid the cross for him ?

And, second question :
what makes me subsequently wonder whether she'd not guessed about resurrection is this trustful yes of her, for her giving birth to the son of God, for her accepting God's protecting takeover of the 12 year old Jesus, and finally this death, is (at least in my opinion) to make sense or consistency with the plan God gives through Gabriel's initial speech.
So, do you think, please, she could have guessed about resurrection, since it seems it was the only option that could make sense for her after the cross ?
(Actually up back to recently, i considered the three days for the finding Jesus in the Temple was linked with the three days for resurrection, but i just saw this as a mean for her to not fall in despair, whereas i question myself now up to what preceeds)

RileyG · 2025-12-05T22:02:18-0600

For those who aren’t aware: The American Baptist Church is a mainline Protestant denomination. Part of the 7 sisters Churches of mainline Protestantism.

(The seven sister Churches include The Lutheran Church-ELCA, The Episcopal Church, The United Methodist Church, Disciples of Christ, The United Church of Christ, Presbyterian Church-USA)

They are known to be progressive and focus on social justice.

Kamala Harris is a member of the American Baptist Church.

The American Baptist Church used to be known as the Northern Baptist Church and split from the Southern Baptist Church (evangelical) over a century ago.

CLEEB · 2025-12-05T21:59:01-0600

The gospel is the message Jesus preached that must be understood to have the hope of salvation. 1 Corinthians 15:2 Romans 1:16 Faith is believing in the gospel.

Lost Witness · 2025-12-05T21:58:39-0600

Language models aren't A.I at all.

Always in His Presence · 2025-12-05T21:57:16-0600

Bradskii said:
The Japanese were attacked by US forces because they were at war. They were a threat to American lives and their ship destroyed. Thirty nine survived the attack. Maybe you'd say that the situation with the drug runners was the same (you'd be wrong, but we'll assume that would be your view). So their boat was destroyed and two survived. For over an hour: US airstrike survivors clung to boat wreckage for an hour before second deadly attack, video shows

'Two men who survived a US airstrike on a suspected drug smuggling boat in the Caribbean clung to the wreckage for an hour before they were killed in a second attack, according to a video of the episode shown to senators in Washington.'

So this wasn't even a one-two strike. The boat was destroyed, most occupants were blown up and people watched two men struggling in the sea for over an hour. And then decided to kill them in cold blood. Trying to defend this is unconscionable.

We’re the drug runners in a life boat?

SilentCompany · 2025-12-05T21:53:06-0600

God through and in Jesus is dynamic enough to transform the hearts into submitting and doing what is pleasing and compatible to his will through the power of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is a dynamic companion and helps to work the miracle of changing the hearts. soon or later a believer becomes transformed. its a promise. IT WORKS. and the arguments become less an less ..the heart of man transitions into wanting to please the Father, nothing we can do can overpower the power of God..this is what it means..Gods will is to save you..your GOING to be saved! He wills it! and so much of man is about doubting he can do it..and that, somehow, binds us, in our doubts. and for good reason..
We can not overcome the feverish drive of our compelling will to want ..want, want..Only God has the formula to change our heart. Its our believing and surrendering to him to DO it..letting HIM..trusting him..praying in a posture of surrender..turning off the mind and letting in some HOPE ..in that time when temptation grabs hold..the praying posture of the heart. light the candle in your heart..and get real close to it..enough to feel its flame, let that flame be all you focus on..let it be a representation that you are trying to get close to him..its just about all we can do..is hold on..look to him..draw close to him..and like a candle, you can feel its flame ..even if its small..take comfort in the idea its alive...and you can still see and feel it.

Yea man can screw around and mess things up..but God shows us in our ongoing relationship with him that he is in charge of whats right for what HE wants for us.. His grace is known as to how long its going to take for us to figure that out., one on one. I know others can and do sin..they are doing it to themselves and God is right in there face about it.
No one can escape. Sometime they look like they are getting away from God, Its sad to see ..
I know God is going to bring all to his glory in the end..and what better end is that to know yea?

FaithT · 2025-12-05T21:48:56-0600

I

Michie said:
The Register contacted pastors across the country asking the question whether emergency personnel call them to life-threatening situations. For the most part, the answer is No.

When a multi-ton pile of clay covered a steam-shovel fireman in Cambridge, Massachusetts, in early December 1952, a 40-year-old Catholic priest had himself lowered upside down into a hole workers had dug to try to save the man.

“Only the tips of the priest’s heels were visible as his murmured prayers were heard above,” The Boston Globe reported the next day. Only a portion of the man’s leg was visible when the priest first got near him, and by the time workers freed the rest of Elpidio Baia, a 55-year-old father of three, the accident victim had died. But Father John Tierney’s efforts to bring him the last rites of the Church are an example of what used to be common — police and firefighters calling a priest to an accident so he can administer sacraments to the critically injured.

Priests still frequently offer confession, Eucharist and anointing of the sick at hospitals, of course, but not so much at the scenes of accidents. The words “priest called to the scene” and similar phrases appeared in many news stories in the United States during the last century until the late 1960s, when they started tapering off, according to searches of online databases conducted by the Register.

It’s not common anymore.

Continued below.

‘Someone Call a Priest’: Sacraments at Time of Crisis Are Not Administered as Often as They Used to Be

The Register contacted pastors across the country asking the question whether emergency personnel call them to life-threatening situations. For the most part, the answer is No.

www.ncregister.com

I have a card in my wallet that says that I’m Catholic and to call a priest in case of an emergency. I think I got it from Rugged Rosaries.

RileyG · 2025-12-05T21:47:31-0600

Factotum said:
Thank you!

You’re welcome

RileyG · 2025-12-05T21:46:58-0600

Tom D said:
I learned today that a great drink for fighting cold and flu during winter is ginger tea.

Good to know! I heard ginger helps with the stomach!

RileyG · 2025-12-05T21:45:08-0600

FaithT said:
I hope my priests don’t feel this way but they aren’t just recently out of seminary. They are probably in their 60’s or 70’s. We did have a younger priest who’s probably in his mid 30’s now who‘d been transferred. He seemed to have adjusted well to priesthood but you never know what people are thinking and feeling.

We must pray for many more young men to join the priesthood! Also related, many young men and women to join the religious life!

Lord, hear our prayer!

I’m 30, and one of the priest at my parish is younger than me. He was ordained this past year. I think he’s maybe 27 or 28?

Bob S · 2025-12-05T21:44:03-0600

Studyman said:
Well, you must remember, I read your posts, so I know your stated religious philosophy according to your own words. According to your stated religious philosophy, God's LAW was "NEVER" relevant to the Non-Jew.

Hentenza is right on that the Sinai covenant was never relevant to Gentile nations. A mixed multitude came out of Egypt, and it appears they all accepted the covenant. Any Gentile who entered Israel was permitted to become a believer. God never subjected any other Gentile nation to the covenant He gave Israel.

Jesus' command to the disciples was to go into all the World and spread the Good News. I have yet to discover any nation that has upheld the Sinai Covenant. None of them follow the 613 rules given at Sinai.

.Mikha'el. · 2025-12-05T21:41:07-0600

I am watching the weekly sermon on the YouTube channel I frequent. Happy Sabbath to all of you out there.

BCP1928 · 2025-12-05T21:35:04-0600

stevevw said:
If this is the case then you have just admitted that humans can gain knowledge through direct experiences of nature and reality.

No one has denied it. In fact I think most of us would maintain that it is the only way to get knowledge. You seem to be the one touting more than one way.

RocksInMyHead · 2025-12-05T21:29:33-0600

Valletta said:
Note too the following from the article:
"DHS says the suspect has an extensive criminal history that spans almost four decades, including an attempted murder charge in 1987, an armed robbery charge in 1991 and a charge of annoying or molesting a victim under 18 in 2007."

Sounds like he was a pretty bad dude in general. Not sure what your point is though.

MarkSB · 2025-12-05T21:16:25-0600

MarkSB said:
I enjoy most home improvement tasks, but caulking has always been something I despise. Today I may have found a runner up... hanging lattice. Using the vinyl lattice definitely made it much more painless. Not to mention, it looks a lot better. And it was a decent day to be outside.

Hopefully now there will be no more critters (or litters of stray kittens) under the deck.

Looking back at this... I have most certainly found a home improvement task that I despise a hundred times more than caulking: Installing insulation baffles in an attic with a 4:12 pitch roof. Squeezing into that little corner of the attic is a treat. (I am wearing a good mask, of course, for safety).

All these posts make it sound like I don't enjoy home improvement tasks, but actually I do. Unfortunately, just not the ones that currently need to be done. :/

Hans Blaster · 2025-12-05T21:14:22-0600

BCP1928 said:
In the fight? Were they shooting back? I hadn't heard that.

Tom 'Shoot the Protestors' Cotton is pushing this narrative.

Oompa Loompa · 2025-12-05T21:13:23-0600

comana said:
Why try? at this point it’s clear you will twist anything positive about Somali immigrants into a negative so you can be right.

What are you talking about? What positive aspect of Somalian culture and heritage has been presented that says, "Yeah. They bring something to the table to contribute to the United States." "But they value family." Yeah. So did the mafia and Vin Diesel in the "Fast and Furious" movies. So what?

Valletta · 2025-12-05T21:11:51-0600

reddogs said:
Well, Pope Leo is trying to bring all the world together, but at the same time spreading fear and terror of a third World War....

"Pope Leo on first foreign trip says future of humanity at stake from conflict
Pope Leo XIV has warned that the world should not give into "a heightened level of conflict on the global level", at the start of his foreign trip in Turkey.
"The future of humanity is at stake, said the Pope, urging President Recep Tayyip Erdogan to act as a source of stability because of the need to promote dialogue and stability.
Leo warned that today's wars were like a "third world war fought piecemeal"....

Over recent months, though he has spoken out on some issues dear to him such as the dignity of migrants, he has certainly not been as overtly political as his predecessor could be.
He has walked such a fine line that in some cases both progressives and traditionalists within the Catholic Church have made the case that he supports their school of thought.
It was for similar reasons that cardinals of different persuasions were thought to have coalesced around him at conclave.
Pope Francis was seen as a visionary but one who was not overly worried about creating consensus, leaving behind a somewhat divided Church. Pope Leo has so far operated very differently, gently holding on to some of the progressive ideals of his predecessor while paying heed to the views of traditionalists."Pope Leo visits Turkey and warns humanity at stake from high level of conflict

Looks like he will say whatever is needed to spread ecumenism with the other churches....

Pope Leo is speaking frankly about the wars in the world--that is not spreading fear and terror. I don't think most practicing Catholics viewed Pope Francis as a visionary. I liked his message of mercy. Unfortunately a lot of his statements caused confusion. There is no reason to think Pope Leo is walking a "fine line," realize Jesus cannot be categorized as solely a progressive or traditional.

timothyu · 2025-12-05T21:09:06-0600

All those people complaining about a king are outta luck. No tea party this time.

Dan1988 · 2025-12-05T21:03:17-0600

eleos1954 said:
What kind of a loving God would torture people for eternity? I would not ... could not worship a god like that.

Theres all kinds of scripture that teaches death is a sleep ... including from Jesus himself.

John 11:11-13:
Jesus says of the deceased Lazarus, "Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep, but I am going to awaken him from his sleep." The disciples misunderstood, thinking He meant literal sleep, but Jesus clarified, "Lazarus is dead".

1 Thessalonians 4:13-14:
Paul writes, "Brothers, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him".

Daniel 12:2:
"Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt".

Matthew 9:24
& Luke 8:52: Jesus tells mourners at a girl's death, "Go away. The girl is not dead but asleep," before raising her.

Acts 7:60:
Stephen's death is described as "falling asleep in the Lord" after he cries out to Jesus.

Meaning of the Metaphor:

Temporary State: Sleep is temporary, implying an eventual awakening (resurrection).

Unconsciousness: It signifies a state of inactivity and unconsciousness, where the dead know nothing.

Hope: For believers, it offers comfort, pointing to the resurrection and eternal life in Christ.

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No it's not opinion ... it's from scripture

1 Deuteronomy 31:16: “The Lord said to Moses, Behold, thou shalt sleep with thy fathers.”

II Samuel 7:12: “When thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers.""

I Kings 1:21: “When my lord the king shall sleep with his fathers.”

I Kings 2:10: “David slept with his fathers.”

I Kings 11:21: “David slept with his fathers.”

I Kings 11:43: “Solomon slept with his fathers.”

I Kings 14:20: “Jeroboam...slept with his fathers.”

I Kings 14:31: “Rehoboam slept with his fathers.”

I Kings 15:8: “Abijam slept with his fathers.”

I Kings 15:24: “Asa slept with his fathers.”

I Kings 16:6: “Baasha slept with his fathers.”

I Kings 16:28: “Omri slept with his fathers.”

I Kings 22:40: “Ahab slept with his fathers.”

I Kings 22:50: “Jehoshaphat slept with his fathers.”

II Kings 8:24: “Joram slept with his fathers”

II Kings 10:35: “Jehu slept with his fathers”

II Kings 13:9: “Jehoahaz slept with his fathers”

II Kings 13:13: “Joash slept with his fathers”

II Kings 14:16: “Jehoash slept with his fathers”

II Kings 14:22: “The king slept with his fathers”

II Kings 14:29: “Jeroboam slept with his fathers”

II Kings 15:7: “Azariah slept with his fathers”

II Kings 15:22: “Menahem slept with his fathers”

II Kings 15:38: “Jotham slept with his fathers”

II Kings 16:20: “Ahaz slept with his fathers”

II Kings 20:21: “Hezekiah slept with his fathers”

II Kings 21: 18: “Manasseh slept with his fathers”

II Kings 24:6: “Jehoiakim slept with his fathers”

II Chron. 9:31: “Solomon slept with his fathers”

II Chron. 12:16: “Rehoaboam slept with his fathers”

II Chron. 14:1: “Abijah slept with his fathers”

II Chron. 16:13: “Asa slept with his fathers”

II Chron. 21:1: “Jehoshaphat slept with his fathers”

II Chron. 26:2: “The king slept with his fathers”

II Chron. 26:23: “Uzziah slept with his fathers”

II Chron. 27:9: “Jotham slept with his fathers”

II Chron. 28:27: “Ahaz slept with his fathers”

II Chron. 32:33: “Hezekiah slept with his fathers”

II Chron. 33:20: “Manasseh slept with his fathers”

In Job, believed to be the oldest book in the Bible, death is again referred to as sleep:

Job 7:21: “Now shall I sleep in the dust”

Job 14:12: “They shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep”

In the Psalms, death is a sleep:

Psalm 13:3: “Lest I sleep the sleep of death”

Psalm 90:5: “Thou carriest them away as with a flood; they are as a sleep”

Daniel promises a resurrection of the sleeping dead:

Daniel 12:2: “Many of they that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake”

Jesus described death as “sleep”:

Matthew 9:24: “The maid is not dead but sleepeth.”

Mark 5:39: “The damsel is not dead but sleepeth”

Luke 8:52: “She is not dead but sleepeth”

John 11:11: “Our friend Lazarus sleepeth”

At Jesus’ crucifixion:

Matthew 27:52: “Many bodies of the saints which slept arose”

Luke reiterates I Kings:

Acts 13:36: “David...fell asleep, and was laid unto his fathers”

Paul describes death as sleep:

I Cor. 15:20: “Christ is risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that sleep”

I Cor. 15:51: “We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed”

I Thess 4:13: “I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope”

I Thess. 4:14: “If we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus”

Thanks for sharing your private opinion, that God contradicts Himself but I reject that opinion, because the Bible is clear that God does not lie, nor does He contradict Himself, nor does He change His mind, nor does He go back on His promises.

So regardless of what you read on Reddit or any other mans opinion, Gods Word is the only authority I submit to. If I was to follow your private opinion, I would have to reject what God has said about the matter.

I see you believe that the word "death" is only used in one single context in the bible, that's why you stayed well away from the other 100 verses which confirm that the word is used to describe many different things. You are asking me to put on my blinkers and ignore all of the ways, just to give your opinion legitimacy.

Here's a challenge, how many different ways is death described in the bible, lets see what Doctor google tells you

ARBITER01 · 2025-12-05T20:43:35-0600

Richard T said:
I personally like K.E. Hagin's teaching on tongues. While he is known as a faith teacher, his teaching including books on the gifts and tongues in particular show the subject was important to teach. I don't think all Rhema trained pastors though emphasize it as much.

Hagin's teaching mirror's Howard Carter's teaching on the gifts, and expands it in some areas. I find his teaching on the gifts to be excellent.

Fervent · 2025-12-05T20:32:34-0600

Hentenza said:
Yes they do. The ECFs considered scripture unique, inspired by God, and the authority for all matters of doctrine. If you have an argument then state it otherwise your opinion does not count.

Talking about the ECFs while relying on two quotes hardly establishes anything, the existence of councils and other mediations speaks against the idea that Scripture was exhaustive of God's revelation, and no one argues that Scripture isn't the cornerstone authority. Sola Scriptura goes further than simply asserting Scripture as the chief authority but claims that it is hostile to tradition rather than being a portion(the chief cornerstone, certainly) of a broader tradition.

Hentenza said:
Actually I have moved on beyond the question but you are still stuck behind it. Again, either put up an argument or concede that you dont have one.

You have given no answer to it and instead want to move on without it being addressed. I've presented my argument, which is that God-breathed has nothing to do with inspiration when we consider how it was used by contemporaries and near contemporaries of Paul rather than those who post-date Origen. You've provided no response to this challenge, since you want to move onto other topics.

Yarddog · 2025-12-05T20:29:58-0600

Monastic1952 said:
All the time I hear Christians insist that Creationism is a science. In that case--shouldn't Creationism be taught at public schools? After all, Evolution is taught at public schools, so why not Creation Science as well?

No, not all church's teach it as science. Many accept evolution and teach it in their schools.

prodromos · 2025-12-05T20:17:59-0600

Apple Sky said:
It depends on how big the firmament really is.

No, you always claim we can only see so far, which is why you claim the sun 'appears' to rise and set. Now you want to claim we can see stars which are orders of magnitude less bright than the sun, at much greater distances. Your claims are contradictory thus they are not true claims.

Flat earthers are ever shifting the goal posts

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