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Trump’s Defense Secretary Accidentally Texted War Plans to The Atlantic: ‘I Didn’t Think It Could Be Real,’ Editor Says

The Secretary of Defense was investigated by what ever investigators were left at the Department of Defense after the Secretary of Defense fired a good portion of them and was found to have not done anything questionable.

Cut and dry! Take that Liberals! You got owned again!
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An Un-asked For Street Debate In Greece

Apparently this has gone viral. Everyone is praising the priest for his patience and gentleness, and everyone is condemning the lady for, well, everything from extreme rudeness to possible demonic possession. I don't know about the demons, but she does seem to have an almost supernatural ability of talking fast. Either supernatural or chemical.

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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

I kindly ask you to reread the post you reacted to. And my previous posts in this thread.
Ok. The messages are below. What did I miss?




Look up International Law and War law. Unless the survivor pauses an imminent danger then the shooting is illegal. This is designed for reciprocity during war.

Personally I have no problems taking the war on drugs to them but it is illegal to shoot survivors.

You realize that you will soon be labelled as a Hamas supporting terrorist lover. How many American flags have you been burning lately?
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6 Craziest Revelations From Scathing Report on Kash Patel — Including His Refusal to Leave a Plane Until He Was Given a Female Agent’s Jacket

I think there doesn't seem to be any evidence that the report is authentic in any way.
So you think those Republican Senators just received an FBI file from some "precocious 15 year old" and then entered into record?

How come you extend yourself to such a lack of reason that you allow yourself to think those thoughts?

Folks complain about people who give trump a hard time all the time having a derangement syndrome but constantly making excuses for poor performance and excusing ineptitude seems a better way of describing a derangement.
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Liberal Christians, what is your position on abortion?

I am opposed to abortion for the majority of situations. I have never been in such a position but if I was, I would not willingly be party to abortion of a fetus I had fathered.

That said, I don't think 13-year-olds should be compelled to deliver their father's baby. I don't think rape victims should be compelled to deliver their rapist's baby. I don't think women should die if an abortion could save their lives. I think these are difficult decisions to be made by the persons involved and not by men in suits.
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‘Go to Berkeley’: Ron DeSantis said students seeking ‘woke’ classes should study elsewhere

While it may not interfere with someone learning STEM. It does interfere with "the normal college experience" for some of the students.

And while it may only be a minority who would actually light a dumpster on fire to prevent an Ann Coulter speech from taking place...

Overall, attitudes toward "squashing free speech that I don't like" are more than just a small minority.



A campus culture of more than just a few outliers being intolerant of "anything but the most progressive viewpoint" was evidently enough of a problem, and some Senior faculty recognized it was something that needed to be addressed in the form of a brand new course called "Openness to Opposing Views"
Yes it needed to be addressed. And they are addressing it, like at a lot of colleges.

I get that Milo and Ann types should be allowed their speech. But why are they even invited in the first place? Its mainly for pot stirring. Actual bigots and people who behave disrespectfully should not be the test case. They are there just to stir the spot and create a "told you so" scene. Its disingenuous.

The test case should be speakers who can present an unpopular opinion without being jerks about it. I'm not saying they would fare much better. But at least the free speech issue would be crystal clear.

Anyway all this is beside the point I was making, which is that for the type of study Desantis considers valuable, Berkeley would make a terrific choice for a student. Actually I think most public U's are pretty great, the main difference among them being not the education on offer, but how much you as a student are pushed by fellow students and the academic environment they create. Highly selective colleges are good for this, but I think a motivated student can get a great ed at most places.
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Nigerian foundation defends Catholic bishop after remarks about Christian genocide

The Kukah Centre (TKC), a Nigeria-based public policy institute, has responded to what it describes as a “mischaracterization” of the remarks of its founder, Bishop Matthew Hassan Kukah, about the alleged genocide of Christians in the West African nation.

In a press release on Tuesday, the executive director of TKC, Father Atta Barkindo, blamed the media for its inadequate reporting of Kukah’s remarks, which he made during the launch of the 2025 World Report on Religious Freedom at the Vatican on Oct. 21, and in his subsequent address to the 46th Supreme Convention of the Knights of St. Mulumba (KSM) in Kaduna on Friday, Nov. 28.

Barkindo said what the media are reporting reflect neither Kukah’s remarks nor the context of his work spanning half a century.

“TKC has followed with humility and keen attention recent reports about remarks attributed to our founder, His Lordship Bishop Matthew Hassan Kukah, concerning the very current issue of the protection — or lack thereof — of the right to freedom of conscience, religion, and worship in Nigeria, particularly as it affects adherents of the Christian faith in northern Nigeria and related concerns about persecution of Christians,” Barkindo said.

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Want to know a secret? You’re saved before you know it

Rom 10: 8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach): 9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
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Is Hell Annihilationism or Eternal Torment

but the wicked to eternal punishment.
In other words according your belief- "some to eternal life but the wicked to eternal life in hell" Even though not one verse when talking about eternal life contrasts it with eternal life in hell. It's always contrasted with perishing or death.
. During the second death all are resurrected,
There's not one verse stating that.

Christ states -Revelation 20:14 "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death."

Revelation 20:15 "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."


Revelation 21:1 "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Revelation 21:4 "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away."

Revelation 21:7 "He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son."


Revelation 21:8 "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."




Most updated translations use stole which translates as robes or garments.
Well, a deeper study on which manuscripts to believe in is sometimes in order. There are discussions on which Greek word is the correct one in this case.
I like the KJV just for the fact that every word at least can be translated back. Sure there's some mistakes in the KJV (Easter, etc) but not every translation is perfect. But at least I can take a verse with the word "taken" for example -if I take it back to the Greek we come up with multiple Greek words for just that one word. And with multiple meanings as they are being utilized in certain verses. I don't think the new versions can do that. But correct me if that's the case. But I believe given the context in verse 11 the word ἐντολή entole is correct one.

Revelation 22:11 "He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still."

Is that not a commandment to us? I believe so.
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The world will be re-Christianized after World War III

World War III will break out in 2026 and last for six years before concluding. The old world order will then come to an end. The Luciferian dark forces currently manipulating Western Nations from behind the scenes will retreat, the rule of God will be restored, and the world will be re-Christianized.

America's mandate has ended. The liberal international order, sustained by Pax Americana, will cease to exist after the war. The United Nations, secular nation-states, and liberal democracy will all be consigned to the dustbin of history.

A portion of the old state powers will be destroyed by nuclear bombs, born from the very darkness they themselves nurtured.

As a crucial part of the divine plan for humanity's redemption, he will personally choose a devout Christian monarch in the East. Holding his hand, God will raise up a universal empire aligned with Christian ideals and righteousness. Using this empire as a sword, He will judge this fallen world, and the monarchy-aristocracy system will be restored.

The future of the world is a New World Order led by the emerging Christian Universal Empire.

2037 (tentative) marks the beginning of the New World Order.
A new era of mythology has arrived.
The Eastern Crusaders will wage war against all antiChrist forces.

The future of the world is a New World Order led by the emerging Christian Universal Empire.

「“Who has stirred up one from the east,calling him in righteousness to his service?He hands nations over to him and subdues kings before him.
He turns them to dust with his sword,to windblown chaff with his bow.」(Isaiah 41:2 )

Now does everyone understand why the "right to refuse illegal orders" video was made?

Well, yeah. We're all going off of reporting and information released to the public. What else would be expected on a public forum? What else should we talk about in this thread about this incident?

But it remains that the incident apparently did happen and there will (should) be accountability.
I'm responding to your previous comment:

The incident happened. The law was broken. Who needs to go to prison for war crimes? Thats really the only question that needs to be answered now.
Before a charge is laid
Before any discovery is done
Before there is a court martial

We sit back listening to news sources who are reporting unsubstantiated claims - the first one already proven false - and you are suggesting that the only thing left is finding someone to go to jail.

Really?
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My Role in the Pachamama Event.

The problem is that it wasn't a church as the article states it was. It more of a storage
area for non-Christians to keep the items they may have brought with them to the ecumenical
event. What they culprits did was wrong, and more likely turned non-Christians away from
conversion.
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"Trump Accounts"

As long as it's not a long con to eliminate or reduce Social Security or other public benefits, it's a good thing. It's not hard to make a lot of money on the stock market if you start early and leave the money there for two decades (or more). I was left some stock, maybe a few hundred dollars worth, in a single company by a great-uncle when I was an infant. It helped me put a down payment on my first house 35 years later.
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Over 90% of college students think 'words can be violence' after Kirk assassination: poll

An overwhelming majority of college students believe that “words can be violence,” according to a new poll that found undergraduates are more reluctant to express their views on campus following the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

The Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression released a new reportTuesday examining students’ views on free speech following the assassinationof the TPUSA founder during a speech at Utah Valley University in September. The survey was conducted from Oct. 3-31, sampling 2,028 undergraduates nationwide and 204 students at Utah Valley University.

The survey asked students whether they felt more or less comfortable engaging in a variety of activities following Kirk’s Sept. 10 assassination. A majority of Utah Valley University students felt a “great deal” or “slightly” less comfortable expressing their views on “a controversial political topic during an in class discussion” (68%), expressing their views on “a controversial political topic to other students during a discussion in a campus common space” (64%), and expressing controversial political opinions to classmates on social media (65%).

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If words can be violence then what is actual 'violence' violence to be called? Apologies to Whoopie.

Is burning a building down 'mostly peaceful'?

How soon will the Second Amendment to the constitution be repealed? Or, maybe more likely if the revolutionaries get their way, will free speech never make it into a successor constitution?
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