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jonojim1337 · 2025-12-06T20:19:58-0600

Women like to tempt and gain alotta stuff.

The Barbarian · 2025-12-06T20:18:04-0600

I guess we'll never find out what was on that laptop.

jacks · 2025-12-06T20:15:22-0600

joechristianwarrior said:
I’m preparing a video on this topic and would truly appreciate hearing a range of Christian perspectives!

It's a worthy topic and would like to see the video. My only comment would be not to couch it with this statement.

joechristianwarrior said:
Why do you think discussions about justice and greed create such tension among believers?

Do you find it hard to discuss? It hasn't been my experience that Christians shy away from the subject. So instead of engaging on this important subject, you get people reacting to the comment that they shy away from it. Perhaps just discussing the subject, without a judgement on how people view it, would be more effective. Just a thought.

RDKirk · 2025-12-06T20:15:15-0600

Hank77 said:
If that were true, the Navy would have just blown up the second vessel to ensure complete safety.

I mentioned that myself.

Michie · 2025-12-06T20:15:14-0600

peaceful-forest said:
I was wondering if any other Christians are having trouble with making friends. Friendships you're actually happy with and are good for you. It can be with other Christians or non-believers.

I feel like I have trouble. I don't really know where to find other Christians that are like me.

At work I'm around people I do not trust. They lie, they gossip, they're out to get others, etc. So I have to watch what I say and do, and protect myself.

I also haven't been to church in 6 years. I know that's bad. But I'm not impressed with the churches in my area.

Nobody is perfect and neither are you. The Church is full of sinners. Everyone has their crosses to bear. Going to Church is not going to hurt you. It can only help. Set your boundaries if you feel someone is not your cup of tea. Concentrate on the Lord and your devotion to Him. Not others.

ThatRobGuy · 2025-12-06T20:10:45-0600

FAITH-IN-HIM said:
There are more Christians living in Muslim-majority countries than there are Christians living in the United States of America.

Consider the potential impact on Christian communities if a local newspaper in Baghdad or Karachi reported that the United States would not permit the establishment of an Islamic educational institution because Americans fear Islam is threat to American society?

Are you concerned about Christians' safety in Islamic countries, or your concern is only about American Christians?

Actually, there's a slight problem with your line of reasoning there (on a few different fronts)

1)
Comparing the Christian population of 1 country, against the Christian population of 55 different countries isn't a valid comparison.

The inverse would be true if I picked one country, and then compared it to the entirety of Muslims living Christian-majority countries. There are more Muslims living in Christian-majority countries than there are Muslims living in quite a few different individual Muslim-majority countries. Should any of those countries have to self-censor, tolerate huge cultural shifts, or create policy carve-outs for the benefit of the 10% of their population that are Christian out of fear of what may happen to their religious brethren in other countries?

If that rationale was applied going in the other direction, many on the more progressive wing would most certainly label is as "imperialism".

2)
The very fact that you have that concern is proving your opponents' point for them.

The "don't provoke them, or they'll hurt people" rationale isn't sending a very flattering message about the global Muslim population.

Your assertion is, in essence, "You better walk on eggshells when it comes to Muslims, because a majority-Christian country 4,000 miles away passing a law they don't like may just be the thing to set them off which will jeopardize the safety of Christians"

Or, to frame it in a different way
They're saying: "If they gain a stronghold, we're worried that they'll use force, up to and including violence, against people who don't share their religious values"
You're rebuttal to them is: "Why would you say that??? Don't you know that may provoke them to use force, up to and including violence, against people who don't share their religious values in order to retaliate in places where they have a stronghold?"

jonojim1337 · 2025-12-06T20:06:35-0600

Michie said:
You all are so uneducated it’s borders on the ridiculous. Go educate yourself about what you obviously know nothing about. This thread is about the moon landing. Not drooling anti-Catholic stupidity.

Sorry, but Caesar is the only sanctioned authority of our Lord, which is a hereditary title. The Pope does not have say in this matter. Even tho, I understand, he would like to.

jonojim1337 · 2025-12-06T20:01:46-0600

I don’t appreciate these democracies giving citizenship left and right to people. This is the office of Caesar alone.

Tom D · 2025-12-06T19:55:48-0600

ladodgers6 · 2025-12-06T19:48:24-0600

Fervent said:
No, synergistic theologies don't hold a "lofty view of man", they simply don't denigrate man and deny that we are made in God's image. An image that was marred in the fall, but not destroyed.

I never said or even suggested man made in God's image was destroyed. I also hold to an image that is marred, but I will also add that fallen man postlapsarian is Totally Depraved. Now interesting enough Arminius also believe this as well. But other Synergistic theologies do not. Which my friend is a lofty view of fallen man.

Do you believe that Adam needed Donum Superadditum prelapsarian?

Fervent said:
The options are not Arminianism or Calvinism, that false dichotomy is bound to lead to error.

I never said these are the only options. There are obviously a lot more false heresies than just Arminianism.

Fervent said:
There is no saving ourselves, as the "decision" is an act of surrender to God's pursuit, not a seeking of God. Monergists seem to have a place for everything in their theology except themselves, the sin belongs to Adam and the faith belongs to God. No place for the monergist, none at all.

Well friend, either we are under a curse of sin or not. Either we are exiled or not. Either we can save ourselves or not. Either we are dead in sin or not. There is no third category as synergists suggest between life and death somewhere in limbo (Prevenient Grace). This friend is a man-made heresy. Like, "you will not surely die", one suggested.

Fervent said:
No one said it was.

Good! But the Synergists say otherwise. Sometimes you have to take the time and read the fine print.

Fervent said:
Hallelujah and amen. But again, that's not relevant to the question at hand.

It is the crux of it!

Fervent said:
Salvation is certainly a gift, but gifts must be received. According to you, God not only gives the gift but also receives it, so what part do you have in your salvation?

Gift means it's given freely to whom ever he wills because it is not earned nor can be because we are fallen. The only thing I contribute is sin, I have nothing else. Which it is why God also gives us renewed minds to understand him and new hearts to believe him.

This is why Jesus says he came to heal the sick. He will make the lame walk, the blind see, the deaf hear, and the dead rise! It's His doing friend which is why we must be humbled, because we receive it with empty hands not by God owing us anything by what we do or will do.

Fervent said:
yeah, and the options are not Arminianism or Calvinism. There are more worlds than these, ladodgers6

stevevw · 2025-12-06T19:39:52-0600

Hans Blaster said:
Acoustics is the study of sound propagation, not "mind states"

But it may be associated with Mind states.

How Music Resonates in the Brain

How Music Resonates in the Brain

Scientists tune in to the brain’s emotional response to music

magazine.hms.harvard.edu

Binaural Beats’ Effect on Brain Activity and Psychiatric Disorders: A Literature Review

https://openpublichealthjournal.com/VOLUME/17/ELOCATOR/e18749445332258/FULLTEXT/#:~:text=showed%20that%20binaural%20beats%20at,performance%20%5B1%2C%205%5D.

The Intentional Use of Sound Design in the Egyptian Temples and the Great Pyramid

https://www.scienceopen.com/document_file/5059a30d-dce1-47a6-8089-e6f916b4c59a/ScienceOpen/247_Smith_EVA23.pdf

Archaeoacoustics: Physiological Effects of Sound in Ancient Megaliths

Archaeoacoustics: Physiological Effects of Sound in Ancient Megaliths

Ancient megaliths across the globe have been a source of wonder and inspiration since their discoveries. How and why they were built remain a mystery but some of their functions, whether intentional or just a coincidental by-product, can be measured.

www.academia.edu

Hans Blaster said:
Name. The. "Tech". Don't just wave your hands about. What is that tech? Panther urine? Miller Lite?

Lol, how do I know, that is what we have to work out. Like I said if there was some chemistry or physics involved in softening or weakening stones. Then its something the ancients discovered that we have lost. If I know what that was I would be very rich.

Hans Blaster said:
We are not talking about miracles.

But its the same principle. If a miracle comes from knowledge that is beyond what science can explain. Then the same with direct conscious experiences that may give deeper knowledge. Just like science cannot explain a 'Red Experience'. It belongs in the same realm as spirituality and the supernatural phenomena.

Hans Blaster said:
Sheer nonsense. Anyone propagating "simulation theory" has no idea how to do an actual simulation. (I do.)

Thats not the point. Its a thought experiement and I doubt that you could create such a simulation that would contain people like ourselves believing we are conscious beings. When it was really a simulation all along.

The point is can such a possibility happen. Can be be living in some sort of Information reality or like a hologram or characters in a computer game. How can you tell if you cannot get outside your own mind to check.

Hans Blaster said:
You haven't demonstrated any thing else it could be. All we get is dodging and hand waving.

You also have not demonstrated that all there is is the physical.

In fact I at least gave scientific support that the physical may just be an illusion and the fundemental reality is Mind or Information. It is a logical interpretation from QM.

Even John Wheeler, Wigner and Hentry Stapp who were all pioneers on QM support this idea.

Hans Blaster said:
A philosopher?

A psychologist? Good grief.

So what about Wheeler, Wigner, Stapp, Heisenburg, Schrodinger, Plank and Bohr. All toyed with and supported the idea of Mind, Consciousness and Information as being Fundemental.

In fact I think it was Bohm who said electrons have rudimentary "mind-like" qualities, a concept supported by quantum mechanics' weirdness (like wave-particle duality and superposition).

Hans Blaster said:
No. But your confusion illustrates my point that we should expect any better from you in reasoning on this topic. The limitations of your thinking are laid bare repeatedly.

They seem to be supported by some great minds as above.

Hans Blaster said:
I was being generous, and as you will eventually get to, I gave you three ways to gain/maintain credibility and then there was the fourth option -- continue to do what you are doing here. Please, for the love

No, no, no, no. If you want to go with the "advanced tech" route, you just need to demonstrate actual physical technologies, but not at the same time invoke "supernatural woo woo". (That is path A.)

Still not "either/or" and your "alternative knowledge" claims seem to very much fall in this category of the esoteric non-physical claims.

Not from the view over here on "Science Island".

I'm not interested in discussions of "perceptions of reality". The topic is ancient civilization development levels, paces, and regression.

You are confusing science and its goals with philosophy or religion. I am only here to discuss the former.

sjastro said:
In another post you accused me of lying for making things up,

Show me where I said this.

sjastro said:
in my last response part of it was made up as comedic value.
The Egyptians never wore pyramid headwear to increase their brainpower and the neuroscientists Hunt, Blunt, Lunt and Cunningham are fictitious and their surnames lead to an unfortunate word association.

Ok so you got me there lol.

sjastro said:
Here lies the problem, if you cannot seperate fact from fiction, how are you able to recognise rubbish such as the Egyptians having the technology to soften granite?

Its funny as you want to make claims without evidence to tell whether its fact or fiction and now you want to make destinctions. The line between fact and fiction has already been blurred with all the logical fallacies.

I was taking your word and maybe I should have checked. But the thing is thats exactly what has been happening on this thread and you have never called it out. So the precedent had already been set. If anything you should be flattered that I respected your word enough to take it as truth.

But it was not just out of thin air. There is evidence that the pyramid can have influence on the brain.

sjastro said:
As pointed out dolerite pounders were found at the Aswan granite quarry in large quantities in various states of wear because it is harder and more durable than granite hence was used as pounder stones.

Yes but this does not show that they were used to pound the block out. The tests done show that the signatures don't match small pounders.

This is the problem that your associating tools found with the work must have created the work. Thats an assumption.

sjastro said:
If granite was softened to a paste then why would the Egyptians go through the trouble of using dolerite when any material harder than this paste such untreated granite, limestone or even copper tools would have sufficed?

As mentioned the pounders may have been from a different period. The fact is the signatures within the scoops do not match small dolerite pounders. So we can discount them. Whether it was from a different time or the pounders were used for something else. It was not dolerite pounders.

sjastro said:
Then their your favourite word signature,
why is there no signature for softened granite such as a modification of its crystal state to a glassy state which can occur in nature due to lightning strikes or meteorite impacts?

There is lol. The vitrification of many of the megalith stones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VX4Qv5upeE&t=236s

Remember I showed the snake cut into the stone block wall which had melted glass like edges and you ignored it. I have shown these before and they were ignored.

The ‘melted’ granite stairs in the Temple of Hathor, Egypt.

Belk · 2025-12-06T19:31:12-0600

Oompa Loompa said:
I wish liberals would show the same level of empathy and compassion for an unborn child that they do for murdering rapist drug smugglers.

I wish conservatives would stop equating an embryo with a person. Guess we will both be disappointed.

Oompa Loompa said:
If so, abortion would be completely banned. But here is an interesting question, if you had the chance to kill the 9/11 hijackers before they boarded the planes that killed 2,977 people, would you?

If I had true knowledge of their later actions? Yes. But since that is only possible for a god that is not relevant in this case.

Oompa Loompa said:
But every year, 72, 776 people in the US die from fentanyl, and 29,449 with cocaine. That is over 34 9/11 attacks in the United States every year!

No. People dying from drug overdose is not the same as a targeted attack. The comparison is bizzare. Unless you think we should be shooting doctors because they might over prescribe?

Oompa Loompa said:
So yes! I celebrate the deaths of every single one of these monsters so that innocent people can live.
So who is more "pro-life?"

Not the guy celebrating people being killed by selectively applying a weasel word like "innocent ".

Akita Suggagaki · 2025-12-06T19:30:56-0600

essentialsaltes said:
The question is what is appropriate for "the People's House"? A robber baron's palace that would make Hearst blush, or something less conspicuously ostentatious?

It is the best of times. It is the worst of times.

jonojim1337 · 2025-12-06T19:22:56-0600

A Reformation-era game would be fun, given the right, historical sources. I’m an FPS guy, so I refuse to be involved in anything else.

Edit: but that’s a large scale project, as it was, a world war. Sack of Constantinople would be another great theme on a smaller scale.

Hank77 · 2025-12-06T19:13:35-0600

Hentenza said:
But that is literally what the verse says. I’m not sure where you are going with this.

Here's a hint....

Isaiah 53:12
Therefore, will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

DavidS · 2025-12-06T19:12:19-0600

Gregory Thompson said:
Yes, it's just total anarchy.

Bob asks for one thing with total faith and Suzy asks for the opposite with total faith.

All the prayers cancel each other out, what can you do?

half joking because it involves speak-it-into-existence folks.

David Lamb said:
If I misunderstood the OP, I apologise. However, it does contain these words:

"It holds that there are seven aspects of society that believers seek to dominate: family, religion, education, media, arts and entertainment, business, and government."

That seemed to be saying that Christian believes are to dominate those 7 aspects of life. If my understanding of the OP is wrong, then sorry for wasting your time. I didn't do so diliberately.

I would say that Christians are to influence (not dominate) these spheres. I reject Dominionism in the usual sense of the word, but I believe that Christians are to pray for the spheres. I believe that this should be done by small groups of Christians gathered together for the purpose of listening in silence for a word from God as to what to pray, who to pray for, and maybe some specific activity to take. However, before a word is accepted, all members of the group must be inwardly convinced that it is truly from God (Mat.18:19-20).
I appeal to all reading this to prayerfully consider forming such listening prayer groups specifically for the spheres of influence. You may also like to start a discussion on listeningprayer@groups.io

ARBITER01 · 2025-12-06T19:03:33-0600

bling said:
Where are you finding in scripture: "John's water immersion was an immersion of repentance, meaning it was symbolic of the Spiritual immersion/born"? John's baptism was a covenant action to show a commitment to accepting God's forgiveness and turning your life around.

How do you show: Immersion in water is always symbolic of the Holy Spirit, since the Jew immersed ceremonially in many ways?

These are basic NT understandings,.... why don't you understand them?

JoeySoley · 2025-12-06T19:01:21-0600

Venables said:
We haven't been to Mykonos but we were on Lefkada earlier this year, it's one of the mid-sized Greek islands off to the west, Ionian Sea I believe. It was an majestic experience, particularly for mission groups. A sizeable number of beautiful and inspirational churches and deep tradition. I'm having one of those days and can't quite recall the name, but there was one church in the particular that was extraordinary and stayed with us. From the Byzantine architects, a redoubtable design and beautiful frescoes within it. Reminded us of some of the churches on the French Mediterranean coast. Even without the icons, but the architecture on the coast seems it was similarly inspired.

You may be thinking of the Lefkada Church of Panagia Hodegetria (Παναγία Οδηγήτρια)? It's a very old church in an old village, but yes incredible and moving frescoes, though most moved to an institution in Athens as I recall.

Robban · 2025-12-06T19:00:10-0600

I know that many have plenty to do this time of year, out of tradition or not but it is nice to see all the lights in the windows,
and expectations hanging in the air.

Thinking about this I came to think of an old song, for me personally a seamans song, where a sailor far from home and thinking of the folks there at home.

First the song adopted by Svensk-Americans in english,

Second an old version, actually on listening to it brought back memories, Middle of the Atlantic, Irish sea among other places, pretty touching.

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jonojim1337 · 2025-12-06T18:57:41-0600

Well, I thank the Lord, that I have not befallen the whims of women, and that I can focus on his Grace alone ^_^

jacks · 2025-12-06T18:48:42-0600

Great message, thanks for posting.

civilwarbuff · 2025-12-06T18:40:43-0600

Write to your Senator and CongressCritter: Demand that Trump stop killing innocent drug transporters.
Support your local narcotics dealers. After all, they are just trying to make a living and they have families to support too!!!

Hentenza · 2025-12-06T18:36:43-0600

SabbathBlessings said:
Our thoughts and ideas are not Scripture nor do they trump the Testimony of God or Jesus. I know this cannot be reasoned with but I will say this last thing and than just let you have the last word and agree to disagree.

It’s called exegesis a verse. You have to look at the context before you can dogmatically interpret it.

SabbathBlessings said:
Jesus never became the Lord of the Sabbath as if He is the creation,

Well, He is the God of creation, the alpha and the omega, so He most certainly is the Lord of the sabbath.

jonojim1337 · 2025-12-06T18:23:00-0600

timothyu said:
Depends if they understand the concept of being selfish.

My understanding is that people understand very little. By the grace of God, they get a standard that they are satisfied with, and have little concern for anything else.

jonojim1337 · 2025-12-06T18:00:15-0600

I think it’s important to store your treasures in heaven, and not in video games. That being said, I do occasionally play a little video games, and it’s nothing I’m particularly proud of. He must increase and I must decrease, and whatever is in store for me, I guess I’ll find that out eventually.

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