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GoldenBoy89 · 2025-12-18T12:24:24-0600

My problem with the Dems is they aren’t doing enough. My problem with Trump is he does too much.

camille70 · 2025-12-18T12:20:44-0600

essentialsaltes said:
The $1,776 for the military has a price tag of about $2.5 billion.

Trump rebrands Congressionally-approved troop housing subsidy as ‘warrior dividend’ bonus

More than $2.9 billion in reconciliation funds was allocated to beef up troop housing allowances. Now it’s being used for $1,776 checks.

www.defenseone.com

Neostarwcc · 2025-12-18T12:19:53-0600

joymercy said:
As a missionary in ongoing training and outreach, I can assure you that what occurred would not in any way correspond with being a real, actual missionary in practice.

We Listen first and then befriend, because shaming someone publicly like this is NOT love and hurts people instead, more likely driving them away.

Giving a blessing would plant seeds!

Exactly its not typical behavior to embarrass somebody who is just there to support his wife who just lost her father. During a funeral when everyone was grieving no doubt and not just one but twice he said it! And why only single out the Jewish man? Why not say "let's pray for all of the lost in church today so that they can be with the decreased in glory." Why single out the ONLY Jewish man in the whole service? I mean there was a Buddhist there, there were atheists, there were people of other religious views Why not pray for them too?

He had to of known about them my wife said because her mom told him about them on top of Asa (my brother in law thats jewish). So why did he only single handedly attack Asa? Its just prejudiced bias right there!

GoldenBoy89 · 2025-12-18T12:19:50-0600

BCP1928 said:
And there, GB, is the answer. If Trump's Christian supporters think it "hurt the libs" then they will be down with it, even if it's childish.

I don’t really care if they’re Christian or not. This is just shameful behavior for anyone to be excusing or looking the other way from. Like how does it even “hurt the libs” for the president they voted for to continuously be an absolute turd of a human being? It’s so strange to me, but they seem happy with this arrangement.

RamiC · 2025-12-18T12:17:50-0600

I just keep on thinking that candle needs to go jump into the sea.

Say it aint so · 2025-12-18T12:17:06-0600

rjs330 said:
This makes no sense whatsoever.

If you read the anthology(s) that make up Bible(s) without strong consideration of time, as in the paradigm in which it was written; context in which they were written; one will never understand those works. I furthermore will give you two words that also need to considered since these devices were common in that time. The first is Pseudepigrapha where it was routine for writers to write under the name of someone else. The Bible(s) are wrought with that. The others is Syncretism, which also the Bible(s) are full of no different than cultures still do today.

Benaiah468 · 2025-12-18T12:13:11-0600

A new report sheds harsh light on the PA stance on the Hamas terrorist attack of Oct 7 2023. According to "Palestinian" researcher Hani al-Masri, PA leader Mahmoud Abbas described the massacre of Israeli civilians on the morning of the attack as ‘the greatest day in "Palestinian" history’, a statement that further shakes the already fragile trust in the leadership in Ramallah

MEMRI TV
3:08ff

Al-Masri, head of the "Palestinian" think tank Masarat, the Centre for Policy Research and Strategic Studies, made this statement in an interview with "Palestinian" YouTuber Ahmad Biqawi. The topic was the "Palestinian" leadership's immediate response to the Hamas attack in southern Israel. If the account is accurate, it reveals not only a lack of political distance, but also a deeper ideological affinity with an act of violence that has traumatised Israel.

The reaction from Jerusalem was correspondingly clear. The Israeli Foreign Ministry published an excerpt from the interview and publicly asked whether this was really the ‘authority’ that should be established internationally as an alternative to Hamas. The accusation is that terrorism is not being condemned, but legitimised. What is explosive about this is that Al-Masri himself is part of the "Palestinian" establishment and a member of the board of trustees of the Yasser Arafat Foundation.

The statements fit into a familiar pattern. Al-Masri also confirmed that the "Palestinian" Authority continues to make payments to the families of imprisoned terrorists and so-called ‘martyrs’, despite repeated promises to the EU and the US to end this practice. The internationally criticised ‘pay-for-slay’ system therefore continues to exist, albeit in a modified form.

Israeli Foreign Minister Gideon Sa'ar accused the PA of deceiving the international community once again. Payments to convicted murderers are now declared as pensions or social benefits for members of the "Palestinian" security services. However, nothing has changed at its core. ‘This is distorted. End “pay-for-slay” now,’ Sa'ar demanded.

x.com

Against this backdrop, the latest revelations take on particular significance. While Western capitals continue to discuss reforming or ‘revitalising’ the "Palestinian" Authority, such statements and practices reveal the huge gap between political rhetoric and actual attitudes. Anyone who does not clearly condemn Oct 7, but instead romanticises it as a historic moment, places themselves outside any credible peace process.

essentialsaltes · 2025-12-18T12:04:41-0600

rjs330 said:
And if a community as a whole decides

That is not what happened in Llano County. A group of residents wanted certain books removed. And another group of residents wanted them to stay. The community as a whole was not of one opinion on this.

rjs330 · 2025-12-18T12:03:13-0600

BCP1928 said:
Ah, yes--the innate superiority of Western Christian Culture. You expect Somalis to "assimilate" to that nonsense? You can't even get all of your native born fellow citizens to buy it.

No I expect Somalis to assimilate to Western Culture. Never said anything about Western Christian culture. In fact I brought up Denmark and specifically mentioned the fact that is not a Western Christian culture country. Yet you decided to make a false claim about what I posted. You do that a LOT. I really wish you would stop. Its disingenuous at best and dishonest at worst.

prodromos · 2025-12-18T12:01:54-0600

Kathleen30 said:
Thats right Prodromos. Geocentrism was the prevalent view of the Orthodox Church along the Protestant and Catholic Church there was certainly nothing else that looked like a prevailing view until the 16 century that even looked like a competitor until the Heliocentric model began . And you did mention the Orthodox Church did you not in your post 48. before unleashing your brutal remarks in saying I was Full of it. Maybe you should read more carefully before shooting your mouth off with such brutal comments more so when they turn out not to be true.

And still, I never claimed that the Orthodox Church NEVER embraced Ptolemy's system, which is what you falsely claimed I said. Perhaps you should read more carefully before shooting your mouth off. I had pointed out that in Greece, Aristarchus of Samos had already shown evidence of the earth orbiting the sun before the 2nd Century BC, so whereas geocentrism was the only view in many other countries it was not so in Greece, nor was it dogmatically declared to be so in the Eastern Churches, unlike Rome.

Say it aint so · 2025-12-18T11:57:04-0600

camille70 said:
The offical tally is 200 billion in tariff revenue collected.

Thanks To President Trump, CBP announces record-breaking $200 billion in tariff revenue

WASHINGTON—Between Jan. 20 and Dec. 15, 2025, U.S. Customs and Border Protection collected more than $200 billion in tariffs thanks to more than 40 executive orders put in place by President Donald Trump’s Administration. This figure underscores CBP’s effectiveness in promoting secure, fair, and compliant trade, strengthening America’s national and economic security.

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So.... not several trillions?

So then giving 1.5 million service members $1,776 each comes out to 266 Billion. How does 200B cover that?

The Barbarian · 2025-12-18T11:51:28-0600

eleos1954 said:
Several passages show that Jesus believed that man was created at the beginning of creation

Genesis 1 makes it very clear what was there at the beginning, and man was not.

eleos1954 said:
The Bible teaches that there was no animal or human death before the Fall of Adam and Eve.

But you can't find a verse that says so? Why not? God tells Adam that he will die the day he eats from the tree. Adam eats from the tree, but lives on physically for many years after. If God is truthful, then it was not a physical death He was speaking of.

eleos1954 said:
So the geological record of rock layers and fossils could not have been millions of years before the Fall.

Here, you're assuming what you proposed to prove.

eleos1954 said:
The genealogies of Genesis 5 and 11 give us the years from Adam to Abraham, who virtually all scholars agree lived about 2000 BC.

There are two, contradictory genealogies for Jesus in scripture. So we know they can't be literal genealogies.

Always in His Presence · 2025-12-18T11:47:18-0600

Growing up in the Roman Catholic Church the Crucifix was always the symbol we had in the home. After leaving the church and becoming Pentecostal, now it is a Cross.

Which do you choose, and why.

Let's show our good Christian attitude and take jabs at each other.

For me - I choose the Cross, because I view it like I view the empty tomb - the Risen Savior.

The Barbarian · 2025-12-18T11:46:19-0600

eleos1954 said:
However, as a concession, she required one sealed copy to be deposited with the federal court in the Eastern District of Virginia (where any renewed Comey case would proceed), allowing potential future access only via a new, valid warrant.

Hard to say how this plays out.

Looks like the judge derailed Trump's weaponization of the Justice Department, while making sure that the information was still available if they could present a legal basis for having it. I doubt if even the corrupt SCOTUS we have would invent such a basis.

rjs330 · 2025-12-18T11:45:27-0600

durangodawood said:
Interesting observation. Many Christians really are very selective about what Biblical morality belongs to the state and which to just the individual or church. And it sure does look like personal political preference is where the line gets drawn.

Totally agree on this. And that has been the point I have been making. But because it opposes those who have used scripture to support their political preferences concerning a welfare state or certain immigration policies, this is rejected.

Scripture was never intended to force a secular society to conform to it. It was written to the church and meant for Christ followers. It is perfectly okay to use it to express our views as long as we are following all of it and not just the ones we think are supporting our personal political view. But they were never meant for a secular government and for us to use a secular government enforce it.

fhansen · 2025-12-18T11:31:04-0600

Hawkins said:
It's more or less like how Jesus asked those Jews without sins to stone the prostitute. You need someone just to enforce justice. We are righteous simply because of our Faith, not how just we are.

Moreover, in a sinners' world, "society" more or less belongs to Caesar (Caesar is doing a semi-job of "social justice");

Romans 13:3-4
For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.

Socai justice sets down platform of principles by which to know and be opposed to social evils, aimed even at Caesar if necessary when when he's wrong. Some leaders of countries actually condone evils that should be condemned. So do we draw back in fear of being judged as judgmental, or do we oppose and perhaps become actively involved in some manner in opposing human trafficking, the exploitation of labor, genocide, etc?

BCP1928 · 2025-12-18T11:29:22-0600

Well, it isn't working. That's why Trump is looking for an excuse to get rid of all Somali immigrants as a way of getting rid of Omar.

eleos1954 · 2025-12-18T11:24:17-0600

Valletta said:
House passes Republican health care bill that does not include extension of Obamacare subsidies

The bill, dubbed the Lower Health Care Premiums for All Americans Act, was passed in a 216-211 vote, with just Kentucky GOP Rep. Thomas Massie voting with Democrats against the legislation.

justthenews.com

Finally a bill that will actually cut costs for patients instead of making insurance companies wealthier.

It will have to pass the senate ... I'm not confident it will

eleos1954 · 2025-12-18T11:22:26-0600

JohnB445 said:
If in the future, we have the technology to colonize other planets. Do you think this would be possible? Or if God would want that?

Only very recently in human history have we been able to land on the moon and set foot on it, then send a robot to mars. Whats next?
We have been confined to Earth for most of human history, God gave the gift to mankind to be intelligent enough to travel outside the planet, is there anything in the Bible or that we know about God that says we can't live on other planets?

And we need to ask ourselves, why would we want to colonize mars?

God owns all of creation and can and is fully capable of doing what He wants.

Elon is unsure about how we came about ... regardless whether colonization of Mars comes to fruition or not ... in the process there will likely be things that are developed that will likewise benefit mankind on earth in the process of the pursuit.

Personally I think the Lord will return before that happens .... but who knows?

The Bible doesn't confirm or deny life on other planets; it emphasizes God's power, humanity's uniqueness (made in His image), and Earth's special role in His plan,

LoricaLady · 2025-12-18T11:17:04-0600

Though weakened by cancer, Chan continues to worship the Lord and pray.

A Christian widow and certain family members in Laos are facing expulsion from their village in northern Laos for their faith. Chan, 63, first welcomed the message of the gospel in February 2025, hoping to be healed from liver cancer. She and the four children and two grandchildren who live with her came to faith in Christ on the same day. Physical healing has not come, yet they love the Lord and have continued to grow stronger in their faith, attending worship services every week and listening to Christian radio programs. Read More.

Dec. 18, 2025 | Turkey
Iranian Christian Family Fears Arrest, Deportation
[8] prayers in [1] nation have been posted for Christian family.

The Turkish government has made it increasingly difficult for Iranian Christian refugees to remain in the country. Iranians do not need a visa to visit Turkiye, so some Iranian converts to Christianity fled there in recent years seeking refuge. One Iranian Christian family currently living in Turkiye faces the constant threat of being deported back to Iran. In 2017, the couple was arrested in Iran along with their entire house church before fleeing the country. If they were sent back to Iran, they would almost certainly be apprehended upon arrival and their children taken to be raised by strangers. Read More.
Dec. 18, 2025 | Pakistan
Pastor Gunned Down, Killed
[9] prayers in [1] nation have been posted for Pastor's family.

On Friday, Dec. 5, 2025, Pastor Malik Salamat was taking his teenage daughter to school in Gujranwala when assailants gunned him down in front of his home. Immediately rushed to a hospital, he did not survive. Pastor Salamat had previously been attacked for his ministry work in another city and had moved to Gujranwala with his family, hoping to find a safer location. Read More.

LoricaLady · 2025-12-18T11:13:39-0600

A Christian widow and certain family members in Laos are facing expulsion from their village in northern Laos for their faith. Chan, 63, first welcomed the message of the gospel in February 2025, hoping to be healed from liver cancer. She and the four children and two grandchildren who live with her came to faith in Christ on the same day. Physical healing has not come, yet they love the Lord and have continued to grow stronger in their faith, attending worship services every week and listening to Christian radio programs. Read More.
Dec. 18, 2025 | Turkey
Iranian Christian Family Fears Arrest, Deportation
[8] prayers in [1] nation have been posted for Christian family.

The Turkish government has made it increasingly difficult for Iranian Christian refugees to remain in the country. Iranians do not need a visa to visit Turkiye, so some Iranian converts to Christianity fled there in recent years seeking refuge. One Iranian Christian family currently living in Turkiye faces the constant threat of being deported back to Iran. In 2017, the couple was arrested in Iran along with their entire house church before fleeing the country. If they were sent back to Iran, they would almost certainly be apprehended upon arrival and their children taken to be raised by strangers. Read More.
Dec. 18, 2025 | Pakistan
Pastor Gunned Down, Killed
[9] prayers in [1] nation have been posted for Pastor's family.

On Friday, Dec. 5, 2025, Pastor Malik Salamat was taking his teenage daughter to school in Gujranwala when assailants gunned him down in front of his home. Immediately rushed to a hospital, he did not survive. Pastor Salamat had previously been attacked for his ministry work in another city and had moved to Gujranwala with his family, hoping to find a safer location. Read More.

BobRyan · 2025-12-18T11:10:42-0600

DamianWarS said:
if you intend to smuggle in the entire 10 because Paul says "the first commandment with a promise" then read all that you need to bring in with in. Ex 20-23 is the context of where the 10 are first introduced,

"God spoke the TEN And ADDED no more" as I pointed out before. By ignoring the details in the discussion you require that they be posted "Again"

Deut 4: 13 So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.

Deut 5:22 22 “These words the Lord spoke to all your assembly at the mountain from the midst of the fire, of the cloud and of the thick gloom, with a great voice, and He added no more. He wrote them on two tablets of stone and gave them to me.

You frequently respond to bible details with "smuggle smuggle " as if that game proves some sort of point.

Everyone else can see that the Ten are being treated as a unit where God says "HE added no more" just when you need obfuscation and confusion.

DamianWarS said:
along side a bunch of other commandments directly from God

Obviously NO OTHER commands were spoken by God directly to the people.
By ignoring enough scripture in your responses you could cobble just about any idea as a speculative suggestion. Why not keep track of the facts?

In Heb 10:4-11 Paul says of "Animal sacrifices and offerings" that 'HE takes away the first to establish the second". Your eisegesis tries to turn that into something of the form "well I don't admit to any difference in Laws so then taking away animal sacrifices would delete the law that says not to take God's name in vain". Your eisgesis based argument is pretty weak.

BobRyan · 2025-12-18T10:57:27-0600

NewLifeInChristJesus said:
It is curious to me that promoting a creed is seen as the thing that puts them at a crossroads between legalism and faith and that fixing the creed would save the church.

All major denominations have some sort of "Confession of Faith" as is the case with every Christian on this forum.

Consider how far in the dark, that left fringe AT would have to have gone, not to notice.

Sif · 2025-12-18T10:53:07-0600

This is only my personal opinion. Santa Claus (as visualized and conceptualized in general) does have some aspects of Odin. However, Santa has no ravens (Huginn and Muninn) or wolves (Geri and Freki). I see Santa more like the Finnish mythical hero Väinämöinen. Väinämöinen rides a sleigh towed by reindeer. Väinämöinen has magic abilities, mostly his magical singing voice.

The fictional character Gandalf from Tolkien's Lord of the Rings also shares many similarities with Väinämöinen, as well as Odin.

durangodawood · 2025-12-18T10:52:00-0600

Servus said:
When it comes to national and worldwide issues, for some reason there are those who think I'm only talking about a few people in a thread, or worse yet someone who thinks I'm only talking about them personally. When most of the time I'm talking about thousands to millions of people overall.

OK, the random millions "out there". You probably have even less access to their wide ranging opinions on things than you do with people right here at CF. Yet you feel confident to judge?

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