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RileyG · 2025-12-04T13:09:55-0600

JM said:
That is the KJV Premier Collection Reference Bible in Goatskin. I also use the NKJV Premier Reference Bible in Goatskin.

Anything with comfort print is worth buying. Comfort print is a font designed for easy reading and it really helps when reading for long periods of time.

Thanks for the response! Peace

ThatRobGuy · 2025-12-04T13:09:55-0600

BCP1928 said:
A kid who is that impressionable shouldn't be allowed in college, especially if his parents have filled him with crap about "opposite political teams."

Well... that would rule out most teenagers then lol.

Most people are a lot more impressionable from 17-21 than they are from 27-31.

Hentenza · 2025-12-04T13:09:50-0600

eleos1954 said:
The moral law is written on everyone's heart.

It’s actually repeated into Jesus two love commandments, however, the 4th commandment is not a moral law.

eleos1954 said:
ALL will be judged by the moral law ... those in Jesus will be fully pardoned.

Those in Christ are justified which is something that the law cannot do. Also, define “the law”.

eleos1954 said:
The Ten Commandments were spoken directly by God and written on stone by his own finger, while the Law of Moses was written by Moses in a book and includes civil, ceremonial, and sacrificial laws. It was the civil/ceremonial/sacrificial law that was nailed to the cross

And both were given to Moses during the 15 century BCE to give to Israel. This was 430 years after Abraham. The law has never been given to the gentiles.

eleos1954 said:
the "spirit of the law" refers to the underlying intention and principles behind God's commandments, emphasizing heartfelt obedience and love rather than just outward compliance. This is contrasted with the "letter of the law," which is the literal, outward application of the rules without regard for their deeper meaning. The spirit of the law is seen as the principle of love for God and love for others, which is the foundation of all commandments.

Jesus gave the Christian two love commandments which included all if the 10 commandments except for the 4th commandment which He fulfilled by becoming the Lord of the Sabbath. We now rest in Him not on a day.

eleos1954 said:
Mosaic Law: The law of Moses was given to the Israelites through the Sinai Covenant, but it was not given to the Gentiles.

Agreed.

eleos1954 said:
Natural Law: Gentiles demonstrate an instinctive knowledge of God's law through their conscience, which functions as a moral guide. This is what Romans 2:14-15 refers to when it says they "do by nature the things contained in the law".

This is also called providential law because God is supreme.

eleos1954 said:
New Covenant: With the establishment of the New Covenant through Jesus, the Mosaic Law is no longer the binding standard for either Jews or Gentiles, and both are now brought into the fellowship of believers through faith

Agreed.

eleos1954 said:
The phrase "if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law" means that those who are led by the Spirit are no longer under the condemnation of the law, not that the law is irrelevant.

The Christian is no longer under the guardianship of the law but walks in the Spirit which guides and convicts the believer as well as lead the believer in their lifelong sanctification process. The law remains to lead unbelievers to Christ.

eleos1954 said:
A higher calling: Instead of being a burden, the law becomes a benefit to those guided by the Spirit, helping them desire to do what is right

There is a nuance here that you missed. See above.

Michie · 2025-12-04T13:08:29-0600

Seattle Seahawks linebacker Ernest Jones is rejoicing now that he's gotten his “Lord and Savior Jesus Christ back,” and suggested that his recommitment to Christianity has played a role in his team’s athletic success.

The Seahawks posted a video on the team’s X account Sunday featuring Jones' locker room speech from the linebacker. Jones detailed how he had “been through a lot this year” and revealed that he “found myself feeling stuck.”

“I found myself feeling like I was missing something, and what I was missing was God,” he added. “I got back on my knees, I started back praying.”

Jones also shared his belief that his newfound embrace of Christianity was having an impact on the team’s athletic success: “Just look at what we got, man. Look at what’s real.”

As Jones’ teammates erupted into applause, the athlete remarked, “It’s bigger than this interception. I got my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ back, and I’m with my boys.”

Continued below.

Seahawks player rejoices that he got his 'Lord and Savior Jesus Christ back'

Seattle Seahawks linebacker Ernest Jones is rejoicing now that he s gotten his Lord and Savior Jesus Christ back

www.christianpost.com

timothyu · 2025-12-04T13:07:53-0600

Benaiah468 said:
Is Jacob's return home with his two wives not a prophetic image of the future return of the entire house of Israel, the house of Judah and the house of Israel?

My question remains the same. With Jesus, it is more than Judah and the rest of the brethren of the house of Israel. It is the entire world that has been broken free of the rule of the elohim over the nations, returning to God's Will, the Kingdom. No longer is God's piece of real estate in a world of nations, formed after Babel, relevant other than as capital of the new world. The Kingdom, which covers all, is the new promised land.

Michie · 2025-12-04T13:05:10-0600

An appeals court panel has ruled that efforts to stop pro-life pregnancy centers in New York from informing patients about abortion pill reversal are unconstitutional, as such organizations find themselves increasingly subject to investigations from Democratic politicians.

In an opinion on Monday, a three-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit unanimously upheld a lower court ruling siding with two pro-life pregnancy centers, Gianna’s House and Options Care Center.

The pro-life pregnancy centers filed a preemptive lawsuit against Democratic New York Attorney General Letitia James after she sued 11 similarly situated pro-life organizations, alleging fraud for promoting abortion pill reversal.

Continued below.

Court rules NY's efforts to censor pro-life pregnancy centers unconstitutional

An appeals court panel has ruled that efforts to stop pro-life pregnancy centers in New York from informing patients about abortion pill reversal are unconstitutional, as such organizations find

www.christianpost.com

martinlb · 2025-12-04T13:04:31-0600

Yes, I had a college professor in a maybe Christian college who used to pray "...as we pillow our heads in slumber..." as class ended and he wished us the best for the upcoming night.

I think this stuff, as minor as it may seem, might actually be pretty important. As with the experience you referred to, people seem to go KJ English only uner certain circumstances, pretty much connected to church and gatherings of fellow believers.

Aren't we expected to be who we are, in truth and all the time? Why slip on KJ English as though it was some kind of vestiment? Well, I'd suggest that maybe unconsciously, people different when they use that language. More spiritual? More connected to God?

I obviously can't speak for them, but I'd love to hear what they've got to say. When I've had a chance to bring this up in person all I've got back is sort of blank faces.

Aryeh Jay · 2025-12-04T13:01:22-0600

RDKirk said:
Or a handful of US students.

I know that there's a medical school somewhere in that country.

Dave... · 2025-12-04T13:00:58-0600

tturt said:
Agree that Spirit baptism is different from the baptism when we're born again and of course, water baptism.

There's 3 main Biblical baptisms, immersions. All 3 persons of the Godhead involved each baptism.
1 - By The Holy Spirit into Jesus reconcilng us to God (at salvation). By this iimmersion we are a new creature in Christ (ii Cor 5:17).
2- By Jesus who sends the promise of the Father baptists us "by," "with" and "in" the Holy Spirit and comes upon us (The Spirit baptism)
3 - By another believer. Matt 28:18-20, Accounts of Jesus' baptism in Matt, Mark, Luke and John. We're to follow His example He only did what The Father said. Joh 3:5-6, 5:19

" I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire " (Matt 3:11) Mark 1:8, Luk 3:16, Joh 1:33, Acts 1:5,
8:14-17, 10:44-48, 11:16)

This is when the Holy Spirit comes upon us and endures us with power for service to Him and to keep His Word

"And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high." Luk 24:49

"And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness." Acts 4:31

"And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us." I John 3:24

Hey tturt:

I believe that the Spirit baptism that you have listed 2nd is the same as the one that you have listed in 1st. Jesus is always the baptizer, and the Holy Spirit is the agent of His baptism. The Promise of the Father given in Acts is the same indwelling that a believer today gets when he or she first believes. It's just that there was a unique point in time in history when believers were owed that promise, but had to wait for the cross. The Holy Spirit didn't dwell in believers until there was blood to cleanse the Temple, that being us, Temples of the Holy Spirit. Even if He could, there were no ingredients to save us.

I try to always make a mental note of each passage, and the point in history when it happened, either before of after the cross. If it's before the cross, it's OT. If it's after, it's NT. Remember, Jesus said that He must ascend before He could give that Promise. That's a promise that goes all the way back to Ezekiel 36:26-27. Still future in John 7:38-39. From the second post.

essentialsaltes · 2025-12-04T13:00:46-0600

essentialsaltes said:
the details will not please the conspiracy theorists.

They are already saying Brian Cole died in 2014.

timothyu · 2025-12-04T13:00:03-0600

His Will be done, not ours.

timothyu · 2025-12-04T12:58:15-0600

Those of the Kingdom will be reunited with the tree of life while the rest will not. No different than the elohim, where to loyal remain with the tree of life while the fallen will not.

iluvatar5150 · 2025-12-04T12:57:18-0600

Landon Caeli said:
What sense does it make at all, that Trump would pardon Hernandez, if there wasn't factual evidence that the Biden DOJ did something shady?

Trump exhibits poor and/or corrupt and self-serving judgment on a regular basis. How would him following the advice of former associate and fellow criminal Roger Stone not make sense given his track record?

GoldenBoy89 · 2025-12-04T12:56:03-0600

essentialsaltes said:
DOGEd

Trump team revokes $11 billion in funding for addiction, mental health care
Drug overdoses linked to fentanyl and other substances have declined sharply in recent years, thanks in part to a surge in funding for addiction treatment during the Biden administration. But street drugs still kill more than 84,000 people in the U.S. every year, according to the latest data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

President Donald Trump has made fentanyl smuggling a top concern during the opening weeks of his administration, extending an emergency declaration linked to the powerful street opioid.

But his team has also rapidly slashed the number of federal researchers focused on addiction and Trump pardoned a tech mogul convicted of building a "dark web" platform used to traffic illicit drugs.

The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration is also being merged into a new organization, called the Administration for a Healthy America (AHA), as part of a restructuring of HHS that's expected to eliminate 20,000 federal employees.

AHA, of course.

Hentenza · 2025-12-04T12:55:49-0600

Bro.T said:
Let's take a look at Roman 8: 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. This is true, because Jesus says in John 4: 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. Jesus also say in John 6: 63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. So walking in the spirit is the word of God, which is keeping is Commandments Jesus says in John 14: 15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. Abraham was a good example of this Spirit of life in Christ Jesus. Because he believe and had faith, and his works prove it. By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: (Hebrews 11:8,9) Also this was before the Children of Israel, before the Lord instituted the priesthood, the Commandment, Statues and Judgement.

So now, when we deal with the last part of that verse…..made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

Now, what law is this Paul talking about. This law is animal sacrificial law, not the royal law (Ten Commandments, statutes and Judgement). Paul explained this law in; (Heb.10:1, 9-10,18,26-27) (v.1) For the law (what law, the law of animal sacrifice?) having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. (v.9) Then said he, (Jesus) Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first that he may establish the second. (v.10) By which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

When Jesus died on the cross that was the end of the first covenant, which consisted of the blood of animals and the keeping of God’s commandments. And his death also brought in the second covenant, which consist of the blood of Jesus and the keeping of God’s commandments. (v.18) Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. In other words, no more animals are going to die for your sins. (v.26) For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins.

Now do we understand what’s being said here? If you sin willfully after you have knowledge of what the truth is, no more animals are going to die for you. (v.27) But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Now if you are being deceived into believing that once you are under God’s grace you no longer have to keep his commandments, all you have to look forward to is the day of judgement and the lake of fire (fiery indignation).

Now, Let's get back to Romans 8: 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

So what is the righteousness of the law? Let allow Paul to tell us in Paul said in (Rom. 7:7,12) (v.7) What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, THOU SHALT NOT COVET. Paul asked a question, is the law sin? He said God forbid, he said the only way that he knew what sin was, was by the law. (v.12) Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

The Sabbath day on the seventh day of the week, it is consider walking in the spirit because its part of the law (Commandments), to be carnally minded is walk contrary to the law of righteousness. It says in (1John 3:4) Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Now we have just read the biblical definition of sin, the transgression (breaking) of the law (commandments.) It doesn’t matter what you or I think sin is, it’s what God says sin is that counts. So keeping the Sabbath day is one of the most important laws of all the laws.

Paul says in (Rom. 13:7-10) (v.7) Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour. (v.8) Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. That’s the biblical definition of love, the keeping of God’s law. (v.9) For this, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, THOU SHALT NOT KILL, THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS, THOU SHALT NOT COVET; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF. (v.10) Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

And that is what God’s holy commandments are all about; the first four tells you how to love God and the last six tells you how to love your neighbor. If you love your God you will not do any thing to offend him, like having other gods before him. You will do as he says like Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy on the seventh day of the week. If you love him you will obey him when he tells you not to eat certain meats etc… And the same goes for your fellow man, if you love your neighbor you wouldn’t steal from him, you wouldn’t kill him, you wouldn’t try and sleep with his wife and so on and so forth. (See exodus 20: 1-17)

This is God’s definition of love and it is perfect in its ways. The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: The testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple. The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: The commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes. 9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: The judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether. More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: Sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb. Moreover by them is thy servant warned: And in keeping of them there is great reward. (Psalm 19: 7-11)

The book say in Revelation 21: 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Within this wall of text there still is not a post crucifixion verse that requires the Christian to keep the 4th commandment. Also, within the same wall of text, there is not a verse prior to Moses that shows anyone keeping the sabbath. Still waiting.

Dan Perez · 2025-12-04T12:47:19-0600

ais

Guojing said:
Not too sure about that procedure.

Because while the New Testament indeed began with the death of Christ, it does not follow that the New Covenant also began then.

It will be clearer if you read Hebrews 9 in the KJV, they differentiate between covenant and testament correctly.

And if you recall the Old covenant of Law, it started not when Moses was given the 10 commandments at Mount Sinai, it only started after the nation of Israel collectively agreed to fulfill the requirements at Exodus 24.

You quoted Pauline scripture in your posts but they are not referring to the Body of Christ under the New covenant.

Paul never said we are under Israel's new covenant, instead, he made it clear that those covenants belong to Israel (Romans 9:4).

And in. Matt 10:5. and 6 reads The 12 .Jesus sent out. and commanded. them saying . DO NOT // ME is a

DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE meaning NEVERRRR. go. the the GENTLES and do NOT // ME a DISJUNCATIVE

PARTICLE NEGATIVE. , enter a city of the Samaritans

verse 6. , But go rather to THE LOST SHEEP of. the House of Israel

This show that the 4 gospel are spoken to ISRAEL. and not GENTILES and also not to the NEW COVENANT !!

dan p

keras · 2025-12-04T12:46:48-0600

Strong in Him said:
Nowhere did Jesus say, "read the words of Isaiah/Zechariah/Daniel and work out what they could apply to and how they could be fulfilled in the future."

Jesus certainly did quote the ancient Prophets and He respected them, as did 2 Peter 1:19

Your idea that we should not try to understand he Prophesies, is a much worse misapplication of scripture, than mine.
Daniel 12:10b says that some will understand, but most will not. Easy to figure your category.

Michie · 2025-12-04T12:46:01-0600

Critics say changes could lead to silencing 'offensive' speech

Canadian legislators are on the cusp of eliminating key religious protections from the nation's hate speech statutes, potentially paving the way for prosecutions over biblical teachings on marriage, sexuality and other faith-based views.

Under a reported bipartisan deal between the ruling Liberal Party and the Bloc Québécois, religious exemptions from Canadian hate speech laws would be eliminated in order to advance support for Bill C-9, which would criminalize the display of the Nazi swastika and other antisemitic expressions.

Canadian law currently exempts any hateful or antisemitic speech "expressed or attempted to establish by an argument an opinion on a religious subject or an opinion based on a belief in a religious text." Such speech is also exempted when it is "intended to point out, for the purpose of removal, matters producing or tending to produce feelings of hatred toward an identifiable group in Canada" or if "they expressed or attempted to establish by an argument an opinion on a religious subject or an opinion based on a belief in a religious text."

Continued below.

Canadian lawmakers near deal to remove religious protections from 'hate speech' laws

Canadian legislators are on the cusp of eliminating key religious protections from the nation s hate speech statutes, potentially paving the way for prosecutions over biblical teachings on marriage,

www.christianpost.com

rjs330 · 2025-12-04T12:41:45-0600

rambot said:
I wonder how this poisoning of the term empathy came about? It seems like a new idea, to put boundaries on compassion and empathy.

Part of the challenges of faith are the exact thing they are complaining about it. It's hard to be a christian because being empathetic is hard. But the solution seems to be to change the expectation instead of work toward greatness.

More purposefully misrepresentation of Christian conservative thought. Our faith also says that kind of action is unChrist like.

Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice.

When you close your ears you will never hear.

camille70 · 2025-12-04T12:36:27-0600

PloverWing said:
The baptistnews.com article helps fill in some of the missing information. It's hard to evaluate the grading of the essay without a) reading the essay itself, b) reading the exact wording of the assignment, and c) reading the article she was responding to. The article fills in some of those pieces, though information is still incomplete here. The main question should be whether the essay met the requirements of the assignment.

The CBN video was informative to listen to. At the end, there's this exchange:

"I assume that, you know, you wouldn't change things if you could. Knowing everything you do now, you would do the same thing, right? I mean, I would assume that's true."
"Yes, absolutely."

This far into it, she probably needs to make that statement when speaking in public. But privately: if she could do it over, would she improve the essay in any way? Construct a more compelling argument, or address the research article more directly, anything?

The essay is linked in the article via another site.

OU student says essay grade was a violation of her rights. Read the essay

In the essay, she wrote traditional gender roles should not be considered stereotypes. What do you think? Read the full essay and professor responses here.

www.oklahoman.com

There is also a google drive link to the instructions.

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drive.google.com

I haven't found a non paywalled article for it but if you search Relations Among Gender Typicality, Peer Relations, and Mental Health During Early Adolescence Jennifer A. Jewell, Christia Spears Brown the ai options will provide a summary.

Edit: Instructor comments are also linked at the Oklahoman.com url.

Michie · 2025-12-04T12:36:26-0600

Christian humanitarian group 'did not serve as sponsor' but doesn't rule out providing 'services'

The Evangelical aid charity World Relief says it “cannot confirm” if it assisted in the resettlement of an Afghan national to the U.S. who later shot two National Guard members, killing one.

A spokesperson for the Christian humanitarian organization, which partners with both local churches and the U.S. government under its official title, World Relief Corporation of the National Association of Evangelicals, said it was “shocked and devastated” by the shooting of two members of the West Virginia National Guard in Washington, D.C., last week.

The shooter, 29-year-old Afghan national Rahmanullah Lakanwal, entered the U.S. in 2021, following the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan under "Operation Allies Welcome," which allowed him to live and work in the U.S. for two years while he applied for permanent status.

Continued below.

World Relief 'cannot confirm' if it assisted National Guard shooter under refugee resettlement programs

The Evangelical aid charity World Relief says it cannot confirm if it provided assistance in the resettlement of an Afghan national to the U S who later shot two National Guard members, killing one

www.christianpost.com

Unqualified · 2025-12-04T12:26:04-0600

YeshuaFan said:
Henry are nice, very accurate for lever action rifle

yeah but I got tired of working it and not enough bang. I mean it I need a certain amount of recoil.

YeshuaFan said:
What is interesting is that with modern bullets and faster twist rate barrels, old war horses like those can keep right up with modern day guns such as the Creedmo

some had accelerated rifling. Are you referring to the 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser?

pastorwaris · 2025-12-04T12:24:15-0600

samaus123456789 said:
I had a mistake in the maths at one point not doing things in the right order.

In Dan 9 the messiah was going to be cut off (the crucifixion) at the end of 483 years (69 times 7) starting from when a decree went out to rebuild. One of the decrees is in Nehemiah 2 the 20th year of Artaxerxes of Persia which based on archeology was 445 BC. The author of Genesis (150 days, 5 months) Jubilees (150 days, 5 months) , and Revelation (times, time, half a time, 1260 days) are using 360 day a year calendars. So 445 BC minus 483 = -39 AD then minus another 1 year when going from BC to AD or vice versa 40 AD in Gregorian years. To convert to 360 day years then 483 times 5.24 days (the difference between Gregorian years of 365.24 and 360 day years)= 2530/ 360 = 7 year difference. Subtract 7 from 40 AD puts the crucifixion at 33 AD. Please explain if there is a problem with that math.

If the decree was 7th year of Artaxerxes 457 BC in Ezra then 457-483= -26, - another 1= 27 AD - 7 = 20 AD so that makes no sense unless someone has Jesus being born around 10 BC (the NT says something about Jesus 30th year)

Dear Brother, thank you for all three replies your effort, calculations, and desire for accuracy are genuinely appreciated.

You clearly care deeply about chronology and the integrity of the text, and I respect that.
Let me address your points carefully and biblically.

1. About the 360-day year

You have argued strongly that the Bible uses a 360-day year, based on:

Genesis 7–8
Jubilees
Revelation 11–12

These examples do show the prophetic calendar using round 30-day months, especially in apocalyptic literature.

However, the question is:
Does Daniel 9 require a 360-day year?
The answer is no, because Daniel 9 never assigns any days, only:

שָׁבֻעִים – “weeks / units of seven”

The Hebrew term means “sevens” not days, not lunar months, not solar years.
There is zero linguistic requirement for 360-day years in Daniel 9.
Most Jewish interpreters from antiquity (including Josephus, Philo, early rabbis) treated the 70 weeks figuratively or symbolically not as exact-day mathematical calculations.
So:
✔️ 360-day prophetic calendar exists
❌ but Daniel 9 doesn’t mandate it.
This means the conversion math may be interesting, but the text doesn’t require it.

2. About the decree date: 445/444 BC vs. 457 BC

You argued strongly for a Nehemiah 2 (445–444 BC) decree.
That is a valid view many dispensational scholars hold it.
But the Hebrew wording in Daniel 9:25 says:

מִן־מֹצָא דָבָר לְהָשִׁיב וְלִבְנוֹת יְרוּשָׁלִַם

“From the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem”
The key word is:

לְהָשִׁיב – “to restore” (not just rebuild walls)

Ezra 7 (457 BC) is the only decree that:

restores Jewish law
restores autonomy
restores worship
restores judicial authority
restores the temple economy

Nehemiah’s decree (444 BC) does not restore it only repairs the walls.
So historically and textually:
✔️ 445 BC is possible
✔️ 457 BC is linguistically stronger
This is why most classical and Jewish scholars use 457 BC, not 444 BC.

3. About the math leading to 20 AD or 18 AD crucifixion

Dear Brother, you are honest enough to admit your calculations were changing.
That alone shows your sincerity.

Let me lovingly say this:

If the math produces an impossible crucifixion year, that means the system not the Bible is flawed.

The Bible is consistent.

Jesus’ ministry begins in “the 15th year of Tiberius” (Luke 3:1) → 27/28 AD
Jesus is “about 30” at that time (Luke 3:23)
Passover crucifixion fits 30–33 AD astronomically

Anything earlier (18–25 AD) simply does not match the New Testament.

So any chronological system that pushes the crucifixion earlier than 30 AD is mathematically elegant, but biblically impossible.
This is the problem with forcing 360-day conversions on a text that never requires them.

4. “2 Thessalonians 2 happened in 70 AD”

Paul says the man of lawlessness:

exalts himself as God (2 Thess 2:4)
sits in the temple of God
performs false signs and wonders (2 Thess 2:9)

Josephus records:
❌ No individual claiming to be God
❌ No supernatural signs
❌ No global deception
❌ No covenant with many (Dan 9:27)
❌ No stopping of sacrifices by a false messiah
❌ No “breath of the Lord destroying him” (2 Thess 2:8)

So respectfully,
70 AD simply does not match Paul’s description.
Paul also wrote 2 Thess before 70 AD and said:

“Do not think the Day of the Lord has come.”
(2 Thess 2:2)

So Paul contradicts the idea that 70 AD fulfills the passage.

5. “All of Matthew 24 happened in 70 AD”

Jesus says:

the gospel will be preached to all nations (Matt 24:14) not completed in 70 AD
the sun and moon will be darkened (24:29) did not happen
tribulation such as never was or never will be (24:21) WWII exceeded 70 AD
they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds (24:30) did not occur
angels gathering the elect (24:31) no record of this event

This cannot be compressed into 70 AD.
Jesus clearly divides:

Local signs (70 AD) Luke 21
Global final signs (end times) Matthew 24

6. “Revelation was written in 41 AD”

There is zero historical evidence for a 41 AD date.
All early Church fathers agree:

Irenaeus (AD 180)
Clement of Alexandria
Origen
Victorinus
Eusebius

all testify Revelation was written during the reign of Domitian (81–96 AD).
There is no manuscript
no commentary
no Greek tradition
no early writer
no historian
that places Revelation in 41 AD.
So that part of your system is historically unsupported.

7. “The final 7 years were 63–70 AD”

Daniel 9:27 says the one who makes the covenant:

strengthens a covenant with many
stops sacrifices
sets up an abomination
is destroyed at the consummation

Nothing in 63–70 AD fits that complete sequence.
The Zealots stopping sacrifices was:

not covenant-related
not done by a single ruler
not accompanied by abomination signs
not followed by the ruler’s destruction
not followed by everlasting righteousness (9:24)

Back to the Topic: Does Daniel 9 support a dual 70-week structure?

Yes! because:

1. The Hebrew word נֶחְתַּךְ (“divided out, cut off”)

allows sequential “divisions” of time.

2. The structure of the prophecy is chiastic

A–B–C–D–C’–B’–A’

3. There is a clear gap after the 69th week (Dan 9:26)

4. Jesus places part of Daniel 9 in the future (Matt 24:15)

5. Paul places elements of Daniel 9 in the future (2 Thess 2)

6. John places elements of Daniel 9 in the future (Rev 11–13)

Thus:
✔️ A dual-layer fulfillment fits both the textual grammar and the biblical canon.

Blessings Dear Brother

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Dear Brother, thank you for all three replies your effort, calculations, and desire for accuracy are genuinely appreciated.​

1. About the 360-day year​

שָׁבֻעִים – “weeks / units of seven”​

2. About the decree date: 445/444 BC vs. 457 BC​

מִן־מֹצָא דָבָר לְהָשִׁיב וְלִבְנוֹת יְרוּשָׁלִַם​

לְהָשִׁיב – “to restore” (not just rebuild walls)​

3. About the math leading to 20 AD or 18 AD crucifixion​

If the math produces an impossible crucifixion year, that means the system not the Bible is flawed.​

4. “2 Thessalonians 2 happened in 70 AD”​

5. “All of Matthew 24 happened in 70 AD”​

6. “Revelation was written in 41 AD”​

7. “The final 7 years were 63–70 AD”​

Back to the Topic: Does Daniel 9 support a dual 70-week structure?​

1. The Hebrew word נֶחְתַּךְ (“divided out, cut off”)​

2. The structure of the prophecy is chiastic​

3. There is a clear gap after the 69th week (Dan 9:26)​

4. Jesus places part of Daniel 9 in the future (Matt 24:15)​

5. Paul places elements of Daniel 9 in the future (2 Thess 2)​

6. John places elements of Daniel 9 in the future (Rev 11–13)​

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Trump team revokes $11 billion in funding for addiction, mental health care

Dear Brother, thank you for all three replies your effort, calculations, and desire for accuracy are genuinely appreciated.

1. About the 360-day year

שָׁבֻעִים – “weeks / units of seven”

2. About the decree date: 445/444 BC vs. 457 BC

מִן־מֹצָא דָבָר לְהָשִׁיב וְלִבְנוֹת יְרוּשָׁלִַם

לְהָשִׁיב – “to restore” (not just rebuild walls)

3. About the math leading to 20 AD or 18 AD crucifixion

If the math produces an impossible crucifixion year, that means the system not the Bible is flawed.

4. “2 Thessalonians 2 happened in 70 AD”

5. “All of Matthew 24 happened in 70 AD”

6. “Revelation was written in 41 AD”

7. “The final 7 years were 63–70 AD”

Back to the Topic: Does Daniel 9 support a dual 70-week structure?

1. The Hebrew word נֶחְתַּךְ (“divided out, cut off”)

2. The structure of the prophecy is chiastic

3. There is a clear gap after the 69th week (Dan 9:26)

4. Jesus places part of Daniel 9 in the future (Matt 24:15)

5. Paul places elements of Daniel 9 in the future (2 Thess 2)

6. John places elements of Daniel 9 in the future (Rev 11–13)