essentialsaltes said:

Because there is an ongoing risk that Defendants will act unlawfullyand thereby injure Plaintiffs, Governor Newsom and the State of California, the CourtENJOINS Defendants from violating the Posse Comitatus Act as detailed below.

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From an ai check - 40 different resources:

• In June 2025, a federal district judge (Charles Breyer) initially ruled that Trump's federalization of ~2,000–4,000 California National Guard troops for operations in Los Angeles was illegal (violating statutes and the Constitution).
• The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals quickly stayed (temporarily blocked) that lower court order, allowing Trump to retain federal control of the troops while appeals proceeded. This effectively overturned the block in the short term.
• Subsequent rulings (including in August/September 2025) went back and forth, with some lower court decisions again finding aspects of the deployments unlawful, but appeals have generally kept federal control in place for the LA-related operations for now.
• Separate but related cases blocked deployments of California Guard troops to Oregon/Portland.

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What was the video's purpose - what order was illegal - answer - not a one.

CoreyD said:

Where is the noun, and does this mean you are finished with the discussion and want to spend the remainder of time arguing about a word?
It's better to address the question of whether or not God gave man free will.

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Does GOD force salvation on anyone ? Hebrews 10:26 to willingly, willfully sin after being converted there is no more sacrifice for sins. This describes a person who with knowledge of the truth blasphemes the Holy Spirit , there is no forgiveness. Mark 3:29 This concept of human free will was demonstrated in the free will offering Exodus 35:5 Exodus 25:2-7 this concept was continued in the new covenant, 2 Corinthians 9:7 2 Corinthians 8:3-5 2 Corinthians 8:8 Unless you had a shotgun wedding you married your wife willingly because you truly loved her. In a similar sense we love GOD and our neighbor. True love is given willingly, freely otherwise it is not true. You can’t command anyone to love you they must love you because they want to. Matthew 22:37 GOD IS love, GOD loves us willingly and freely and we are to love HIM back in the same way as well as our neighbor. If true love can’t be understood then free will can’t either

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Mark Quayle said:

Very good! I'm curious—how do you view T.U.L.I.P. ?

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Being I am not a Calvinist, I am unfamiliar with the acronym T.U.L.I.P. So my reply is based off of what I got from a quick search.

Total Depravity: This assumes that spiritual death is a cessation of the spirit. If this was true, then I would agree with total depravity. However, I do not believe spiritual death to be the cessation of the spirit, but rather the spirit going into a dormant state where it is no longer sensitive to God's presence. But, it is still capable of responding to the convicting work of the Holy Spirit. If our spirit was actually dead, then even the convicting work of the Holy Spirit would be of no use, and we would remain lost.
Also, and I can't say this with absolute certainty, because we are made in the image of God, I believe the cessation of any part of our being: body, soul, or spirit would result in what looks like physical death. God is revealed to us in three persons, but all are still one God. Being in the image of God we too are made up of three parts, as I just described. These three parts are what makes us human. This would explain why in the new age, we receive new physical bodies. Not only to maintain the image of God, but because we cannot exist without all three parts.

Unconditional Election: I heard TD Jakes say once that God choosing to save whomever it is He chooses to save is a great display of His grace because no one deserves salvation. Rather than lose everyone, God chooses to save some. To me this doesn't paint a very attractive picture of God. If God is capable of saving some, then He is clearly capable of saving all, yet chooses not to? This does not sound like the God presented to us in the bible.

Limited Atonement, Irresistible Grace, and Perseverance of the Saints: These next three are all based of the premise that it is our sins that separate us from God. That salvation is found in getting our sins forgiven. This same premise applies to almost all forms of Christianity being preached today.

Ours sins are not the problem. They are not what separates us from God. Our sin is a form of behavior. Our sinful behavior is a symptom of our condition, not the cause. Our condition is that of spiritual death. Spiritual death was the punishment Adam and Eve received for their disobedience. Because spiritual death plus spiritual death will always equal spiritual death, we've all come into the world already spiritually dead (separated from God). The symptom of our condition, being separated from God, is that we sin.

Now because it is not our sins that separate us from God, getting our sins forgiven isn't going to save us. We are saved when we place our faith in God for salvation. The forgiveness of sins is what makes salvation possible. Everyone from the cross forward has come into the world already forgiven of their sins (this was made know when God tore the temple curtain). Salvation however (which is found in the resurrection), only occurs once we place our faith in God. So now if God has forgiven all of mankind, then clearly salvation must also be available to all of mankind.

When the Holy Spirit convicts us, it is not of our sin, but of our unbelief. All sin is forgiven, but our unbelief isn't. This we must choose to repent of.

Because the punishment for all sin was forgiven at the cross, there remains no more punishment to be handed out by God. Because there is no more punishment left to be handed out, there is no longer any possibility of spiritual death, separation from God. Because spiritual death is no longer a possibility, there is no way to lose your salvation, or to wilfully lose it by walking away since you can't wilfully choose to spiritually die. That is in God's hands alone.

Having said all this, in the end, I honestly don't think it matters what one believes in terms of salvation, but rather who we believe in for salvation. Anyone who places their faith in God for salvation will be saved, regardless of whatever else they choose to believe.

Now before anyone comes at me with their nickers in a knot claiming that John 14:6 says we must believe in Jesus to be saved... let me be the first to remind you that Jesus is God! Not simply a means too God. He established the fact that He is God in the first part of the verse. Therefore, He is not saying no comes to the Father/God/Me except through the Father/God/Me. This makes absolutely no sense. Why do you need to go through God in order to get too God when going through God means you're already with God?

What Jesus is actually saying is that regardless of how you choose to come to God, you will have come through Him. He is the one that made salvation possible. It is only through His forgiveness of sins that anyone can now come into the presence of God for salvation.

BPPLEE said:

Which is more believable
A. Life came from non life by random chance
B. God created life

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C. proto-life arose from self-organizing chemicals.

zippy2006 said:

As a libertarian do you think federal meddling is going to fix the economy for everyone? That there is some benevolent motive from the federal overlords that is bound to bring us into utopia?

The whole framing of the issue as, "How the federal government can create an economy that works for everyone," is remarkably naive.

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I'm not that much of a "full blown libertarian" anymore...I was some years back

But that aside...

Yes, there are certain forms of competition in the markets that can lead to anti-competition (monopolies being the most obvious form of that) if left unchecked.


Economically speaking, there are certain imbalances and problems where the free market is too blunt an instrument to correct the issue in the timeframe it needs to be corrected.

If you want to see how things look completely unchecked, the country's business landscape would look pretty much like a series of these

...where the housing, store, and services were all provided the company you worked for, and you were paid in a special company currency that only worked for the services they offered, basically just funneling employee earnings right back to the company they work for.


I said it a few times in this thread, if you want to see a meaningful change in our economy in a way that works for more people, society needs to be less enamored with college degrees for the litany of jobs that currently require them, but don't actually need to.

comana said:

For Trump verbally attacked means the press asking him a question he doesn’t want to answer.

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Well? There is room for improvement, but given his age, I doubt he will change. His personality can definitely be a turn off to some. I get it.

jonojim1337 said:

Can’t trust AI.

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Congratulations, this is the most circuitous route to a point that I've ever seen.

BNR32FAN said:

I’m a young earth creationist and I don’t see any conclusive evidence to support evolution. Evidence in support of a particular theory or position doesn’t verify the validity of that theory or position if the evidence is inconclusive.

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A theory is never proved conclusively.

Landon Caeli said:

What about AI that observes whether you yawn too much at work, or if your eyes appear tired too often? Would you be okay with that? Because that tech already exists, and is in use.

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Why would I care?

Dan Perez said:

And we are not under the LAW but under Grace , Rom 6:14.

Do you have a verse !!

If you say we are , can. you EPLAIN how anyone can. be saved under the NEW COVENANT.

And you EXPLAIN HEB. 9:18. , PLEASE ??
dan p

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Romans 3:25, James 2:26 etc

Hebrews 9:18, it's about the new way to God through the new covenant. this knowledge which was kept hidden since the time of the old covenant. Now we can know this mystery by the teachings of Jesus and the Apostles. Col 1:25,26

Valletta said:

Insurrection and sedition are serious offenses, and we have come as close to those in the last year as any other time since the Civil War. For something that is well known to the public and has been done before, a lawsuit is the proper course for those who think it is un-Constitutional.

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According to whom?

BelieveItOarKnot said:

Your position just makes grace into classic legalism

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It's OK to be obligated to be good (Rom 8:12-14)- it's very good, even- but with a righteousness apart from the law (Rom 3:21), apart from legalism IOW. Unless God created you to be a sinner, then such a righteousness certainly must exist. This is not a "righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ—the righteousness that comes from God on the basis of faith" (Phil 3:9). This righteousness comes as God the Holy Spirit indwells us. That's the chief difference between the old and new convenants: reconciliation resulting in the union with God that man was made for: "Apart from Me you can do nothing" ( John 15:5).

As an FYI, this topic is already being discussed here

Maybe they should stop lying about the citizens they shoot and/or arrest for protesting their actions.

Federal prosecutors drop charges against Marimar Martinez, woman shot by CBP agent in Chicago​

In a statement on the decision to dismiss the charges, U.S. Attorney's office spokesman Joseph Fitzpatrick said in a statement that federal prosecutors are "constantly evaluating new facts and information relating to cases and investigations arising out of Operation Midway Blitz, the largest ever law enforcement surge in the Northern District of Illinois."

In a court filing, her attorneys pointed to body camera video they said shows the agent turned his wheel and caused the crash before he jumped out of the car and started shooting.

Meantime, federal prosecutors on Thursday also dismissed charges against 70-year-old U.S. Air Force veteran Dana Briggs, who was arrested in September during protests in Broadview.

He was initially charged with felony assaulting or resisting federal agents, but the charges were downgraded to a misdemeanor in October. All charges against him have now been dropped.

BelieveItOarKnot said:

John 3:5
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

Every person is born through a WATER SAC i.e. born of WATER.

And 1 John 4:7 applies to every person as well.

Therefore, love ALL neighbors. We'll be spending eternity with them all

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And 1 John 5:18 says that whosoever is BORN. of God does NOT. SIN. !!

And in 1. John 1:8 says If we say. that we have no SIN WE DECIVE. OURSELFS and the TRUTH is nor in us !!

What says you !!

dan p

essentialsaltes said:

Oh, those ICE witnesses...

Body-camera video appears to contradict the government’s claim that Marimar Martinez drove toward officers before one of them opened fire at her Saturday morning in Brighton Park, her attorney alleged.​

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DOJ dismisses charges against 2 people accused of ramming vehicle of federal agents conducting Chicago immigration sweeps​

U.S District Judge Georgia Alexakis dismissed the charges against Marimar Martinez and Anthony Ruiz after the Department of Justice abruptly requested her to do so.

The decision by the DOJ to dismiss the charges against Martinez and Ruiz came a day after a federal judge in Chicago ordered the government to turn over to the defense additional text messages by the CBP agents involved in the incident.

Alexakis dismissed the charges without [sic] prejudice, meaning the case cannot be brought back. [CBS says it was with prejudice.]

An October DHS statement said CBP agents opened fire on Martinez in self-defense, alleging she was "armed with a semi-automatic weapon" [it was in her purse and legal] and was driving one of three vehicles that "cornered" and rammed the CBP agents' vehicles.

sovereigngrace said:

Oh! Really? We are now ethnic Israel? Wow! Never heard that before. Strange belief.

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You asked for simple answers, I did my best.

Its only a strange belief if one has allowed themselves to be tethered to a single side of the issue.

Satan loves this or that questions which keep the children of God, and would be children of God alike, in constant conflict and turmoil. As is evidenced so clearly in these forums.

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Judge grills government over apparent lapses in Comey indictment​

The case's prosecutor said the full grand jury didn't see the final indictment.

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In reversal, DOJ says Comey indictment was reviewed by full grand jury​

In a reversal from what the Department of Justice represented in court and in written filings Wednesday, federal prosecutors said Thursday that the full grand jury reviewed the indictment of former FBI Director James Comey.

Farid7 said:

Hello,

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Hello back and welcome to CF!

Farid7 said:

The most nothing, is there even such a thing as the most nothing? Yes, there can be less nothingness than nothing, it is timelessness. What makes timelessness more nothing than nothing is the fact that nothing can age, thus making it less nothing than timelessness.

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Sounds pro.

There's spacelessness too!

Apple Sky said:

Oh, so we're all pagan now for knowing the earth is flat, well, I suppose it makes a change from being called retarded or stupid.

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You don’t “know” the earth is flat. You’ve got no evidence, nothing, just an irrational belief that is refuted by the evidence all around us.

WolfGate said:

He's actually right, but it's not the battle he thinks it is. The real battle is to prevent the church from being overrun with the heresy of placing political power and influence over the gospel. You can be both conservative and denounce the violent and dehumanizing rhetoric sweeping through Republican politics - and liberal Christians can do the same when it occurs from Democrats. Unfortunately, Christians are choosing to remain silent on that topic even while often repeating the most opposed-to-scripture talking points of their political idols.

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The true Church, which is the actual body of Christ, the Israel of God, and the Temple made without hands, has no part in this conflict, our battles are not with flesh and blood.

The godless entity passing itself off as "the church" was overrun quite some time ago.

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THE LAW IS FULFILLED
“Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.” Romans 13:8–10 (KJV).

And everyone who has come into the new covenant knows that this does not mean freedom to practice sin, because God’s will is in our new nature, in our hearts. “We have the mind of Christ.” 1 Cor. 2:16.