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timothyu · 2025-11-23T12:24:41-0600

SabbathBlessings said:
it was his own disobedience that killed him, doing something that God told them not to

As it does all of us, ever since it was unleashed in the Garden

The Righterzpen · 2025-11-23T12:22:47-0600

Lybrah said:
Believe it or not, there are teachers who do not want to teach this to children, and “they should just quit” in not an acceptable response.

Yeah, this whole debacle puts all kinds of people in difficult positions professionally as well as violations of one’s own moral conscience.

If there is someone I know who I know is not presenting as their biological sex. I avoid pronouns altogether. I have a problem pretending something is true that I know isn’t.

I know a couple of “trans” people and at least the one I know well, has not said anything to me about my lack of pronoun use.

It’s actually a very sad situation. This is a fellow veteran who’s now been in a locked psych unit at a VA facility for almost 3 months now….basically in order to keep her alive.

And I think I’m pretty much the only person who goes to see her? One other vet has been up there. She’s always “happy” to see me.

It kills me though because where’s all the “trans allies” blah blah blah. No it’s the conservative Christian (who voted for Trump on top of it) who’s visiting her basically because I don’t want to see her die!

Last visit, we spent an hour and half listening to Christian music on her phone. She said the songs help her feel better.

❤️‍ So… yeah.

boughtwithaprice · 2025-11-23T12:18:09-0600

SabbathBlessings said:
I never wrote the Ten Commandments- that's God's Testimony that the Holy Spirit personally wrote Deut4:13 Exo31:18 Rev15:5, something He said He would not change. No where in the entire Bible were the apostles commissioned to change God's times and laws and teach another gospel than what God commanded.

Have you ever dated someone that did all kinds of things for you? Gave you everything, but what you asked. I think we can do that to God. But Lord Lord did I not do this in your name, but Lord Lord did I not do that in your name, only for Him to say I do not know you Mat 7:21-23 because you did not do what I asked.1John2:3-4 God wrote out what He asked plainly in Stone - than wrote it in our hearts 2Cor3:3 Heb8:10 Changing a jot or tittle, yet alone a whole commandment or two, is no longer doing what He asks, but our own will. Its really that simple. We can follow the crowd, or be faithful to what God actually said that comes with His power of His sanctification and blessings. Something no church has the power to do, despite their claims.

If you want the blessing and sanctification of God- keep the Sabbath Isa56:2 Eze20:12- if you want our own sanctification and believe a church has more power than God- one to remove His sanctification and than transfer to a day God made for works and labors Exo20:9 by all means keep going in the direction your heading. We are told whoever we obey is who we serve (worship) Rom6:16 so I guess it will get sorted out in God's time.

This is a misunderstanding of Scripture. You will not find one verse in the entire Bible where the apostles changed God's times and laws- that is something they understood to be bad Dan7:25 and not something they ever did in words or in actions. They faithfully kept every Sabbath in church with both Jews and Gentiles just as Jesus said- My house will be a house of prayer for all nations Mat21:13 and that is on the Sabbath- just like Jesus did who was theirs and our example to follow Luke 4:16 for those who want to join themselves to God, love His name(God) and to be His servants and holds fast to God's covenant- that He said He would not alter His words Psa89:34 not a jot or tittle Mat5:18-19

Isa 56:6“Also the sons of the foreigner
Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him,
And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants—
Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And holds fast My covenant—
7 Even them I will bring to My holy mountain,
And make them joyful in My house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices
Will be accepted on My altar;
For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.

This is what Jesus said who has all authority

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go [c]therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” [d]Amen.

No wonder why the apostles observed every Sabbath decades after the Cross with both Jews and Gentiles as Jesus predicted

Acts 13:42 So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.

Acts 13:44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.

(fulfillment of Jesus prophecy that My house will be a house of prayer for all nations)

Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks.

Acts 15:21 For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath.”

Because God does not change. The Sabbath was from the very beginning made for man started at Creation Exo20:11 and will continue on for eternity where all of God's saints (saved) will continue the Sabbath for worship but instead of in spirit since sin separated man from God, it will be before the Lord Isa66:22-23

We do not want to miss this! But if we are so opposed to God's holy day now, will we suddenly want to once He returns? If God was going to force His will on people we would not be in the mess we are in today a world full of sin and sorrow. We can follow traditions, but it doesn't come with the sanctification or power of God, no wonder why Jesus told us to obey God's commandments over man made ones Mark7:7-13 Mat15:3-14 and the apostles never taught anything different Col2:8

I do wish you well and hope you will consider what God says because while there may be temporary great authority on this earth that most follow- its not equal to God's.

Then why did you take until 1860 to start preaching? No one, not even Ellen White taught as you did before that

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2025-11-23T12:17:26-0600

Apple Sky said:
But he does.

But he doesn't.

Brightfame52 · 2025-11-23T12:17:16-0600

zoidar said:
The text does not explain why they listen and learn, why they are God-taught. It simply presents these as qualities of those whom God draws.

Because the Father draws them

biblelesson · 2025-11-23T12:16:53-0600

ChubbyCherub said:
You've explained it well here but still..................I have to pray about it. It's a hard thing to understand

Yes, it can be difficult!

God is a uniplural word
Man is a uniplural word

The whole creation of Man with its billions, upon billions of lives, is still one.

The same as looking at God with Three in the Godhead is still One

A uniplural noun is a word that appears in the plural form but is used for singular and plural subjects alike.

May the Holy Spirit guide your understanding’

Brightfame52 · 2025-11-23T12:12:37-0600

Palmfever said:
Yes.
He drew "ALL MEN.'

He did not pick and choose.
'For God so loved the 'world.'

So it's not about their freewill. It's Christ will and power

jonojim1337 · 2025-11-23T12:10:58-0600

partinobodycular said:
This is where you and I disagree, because I don't think that's true. To me mercy isn't about what someone deserves, it's about what we as victims are willing to forgive, in spite of what they deserve. For me, that's what being a Christian is all about... to do justly... to love mercy... and to walk humbly with thy God. And I can't help but believe that that last bit isn't just talking about my God, or your God, but anybody's God. Do those three things, and you're a Christian, simply because of what you do, and not because of what you call yourself. Thus it can say 'agnostic' in my profile and I trust that in God's eyes it really doesn't matter... His mercy will come regardless.

I think I’m pretty damn merciful.

partinobodycular said:
So who are these people? Who are these Pharisees? It wasn't the Gentiles that Jesus rebuked, or the Samaritans, or the tax collectors, or even the Romans. But there was something about the Pharisees in particular that Jesus disliked. To me it's their strict adherence to the law, and the little room that this left for mercy. Yes, Jesus told the adulteress to go and sin no more, but only after showing her mercy.

This is why I told you to look in the mirror, because you seem to be someone who's too preoccupied with with every jot and tittle of a book that can actually be reduced down to two simple commandments... 'love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbor as thyself.'

If I've misjudged you, then please accept my apology.

Back in the day, they did not have fanciful, scientific words like narcissist and psychopath, so in the Biblical universe, they are called Pharisees. In other words, what you would call an archetype.

It’s interesting that in the story about the adulteress, the mob had the intellectual capacity to consider if the law applies to them as well, in a broader sense maybe, and the fear of God enough to change their ways. The Pharisees had neither of those qualities and only used the law for their own end like modern public servant.

I think what is talked about here is relevant as well.

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Are you ready for this? Not for the faint of heart…

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Nithavela · 2025-11-23T12:10:08-0600

comana said:
https://disneyland.disney.go.com/park-rules/#guest-courtesy-and-attire-policies

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Current single day ticket prices range from $104-$224 per person. I guess if they want to spend that kind of money just to “trigger the libs” and also get thrown out of the park, go for it.

Best way to trigger the libs is to self-own.

For example, look at the current state of the economy.

Nithavela · 2025-11-23T12:04:45-0600

Good news, everyone.

Clare73 · 2025-11-23T12:04:21-0600

eleos1954 said:
The "rapture" is the first resurrection .... there is no "secrete rapture" ... personally I don't like or use the term. There are two resurrections.

Not according to the authoritative apostolic teaching (1 Th 4:16-17) of Christ (Lk 1:16),

unless the rebirth from eternal death into eternal life by the sovereign will (as unaccountable as the wind, Jn 3:6-8) of the Holy Spirit (Jn 3:3-5) is referred to metaphorically as a "resurrection" in the prophetic riddle (Nu 12:6-8) of Rev.

Lukaris · 2025-11-23T12:03:27-0600

I would consider what my faith community is doing as a whole and consider how to help serve it. If people are being led to the Lord, something must be going right. I’m speaking in broad generalities & realize life circumstances affect how we can do this.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-23T12:02:21-0600

Hentenza said:
The site has a total of 442,000 posts site wide not 140 million,

Sorry I posted the number wrong.

So you've read through 140,600,000 posts already

RDKirk · 2025-11-23T12:01:48-0600

Yarddog said:
Military personnel take an oath to the Constitution. It is also for military operations. Of course, they also have rules of engagement, which are far stricter than what police officers are supposed to follow.

Military personnel do not have the authority to interpret the Constitution, however.
No military court is going to rule a presidential order as "unconstitutional."
That's never going to happen.
That is out of their jurisdictional wheelhouse.

Yarddog said:
I understand death. What military rule allows the military to kill civilians. There is nothing in the videos supplied to the public which shows any attempt to stop or disable the boats without killing the occupants. It has also not been provided to Congress.

The military kills civilians all the time, in every war. What are you talking about?

Michie · 2025-11-23T12:01:05-0600

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Clare73 · 2025-11-23T11:59:10-0600

bling said:
Since God has the power to send the Devil and his messengers to hell, why were they ever allowed to spent time on earth?
What is their purpose for being here?

See Ro 9:22-23.

RDKirk · 2025-11-23T11:58:47-0600

BCP1928 said:
What about the enlisted men who followed Calley's orders?

Some of them faced court-martial, but none of them was convicted.

The Calley case was the specific issue that caused the DoD to greatly enhance its Law of Armed Conflict training as I knew it (and taught it) during my career. Immense emphasis was placed on the soldiers understanding what an "illegal order" specifically is, what an "illegal order" would look like in their specific military specialties, and that they had a duty to disobey an illegal order.

For instance, the specific kinds of things that would be criminal in my task of targeting nuclear weapons in a major command headquarters are different from the kinds of things that would be criminal for an infantry soldier in the field.

The military judicial system has some interesting differences from the civilian judicial system, and one of them is that justifiable ignorance of the law is a defense. That's why military leadership advises troops of their duties "nine ways from Sunday and on every Monday," because if the troop can prove his ignorance or confusion was reasonable, he may walk.

In the case of Calley's soldiers, the military courts realized that there was too much confusion of who did what and who knew what in that moment of "fog of war" to convict anyone else.

BCP1928 said:
I don't think that philosophical judgements are being called for and that for most soldiers the problem does not even arise, but it might, and it puts the soldiers themselves in a difficult position. It's not merely a "philosophical position" that a National Guard soldier should not shoot his own unarmed fellow citizens, even they they have gotten away with it in the past.

I keep saying: You are posting things for which specific laws already exist. There are already specific laws covering "shooting his own unarmed fellow citizens." So, no, that would call for philosophical judgments. Y'all keep doing that. Everything you think of is already covered by existing laws and would be "illegal orders."

My point continues to be: Trump is never going to issue a clearly "illegal order." His lawyers are smarter than that. They are going to nuance the hell out of his orders, so that they will call for philosophical judgments from Corporal Snuffy Smith.

Clare73 · 2025-11-23T11:56:56-0600

concretecamper said:
I think the fact that some can lead more virtuous lives than others displays that the extent of our free will is within our control. There is no need of any other "proof". We limit ourselves.

C'mon, you know better than that. . .

Just because I can climb a tree as does a money doesn't mean I, therefore, can safely jump from tree to tree several feet apart.

RamiC · 2025-11-23T11:54:35-0600

ChubbyCherub said:
My church really endorses NIV which is contrary to their guest speakers. It is non-denominational.

Could the guest speakers have been trying to sell other versions of the Bible? If some people at your church might have bought one, that is fine activity, but you do not need to let it prevent you from just using the best one for you.

NIV Bible - New International Version - they have a fine looking website there, with a blog that looks especially helpful for articles about application to life.

What is the New International Version (NIV)? | GotQuestions.org - and here is Got Questions? website on the NIV.

This is an easy summary of different translation styles:

Formal Translation: A very word-for-word translation that often uses formal, more archaic language (example: the King James Version or NASB);
Dynamic Translation: A thought-for-thought translation (example: NIV or NLT);
Paraphrase Translation: An idea-for-idea translation that involves much more interpretation from the translator (example: The Message);

from here.

NIV is a Dynamic translation, so it is formed in English to blend easy readability with what the original languages said. Here is the NIV websites' own answer about which original texts were used "The translators of the NIV have used the Old Testament and New Testament texts that are widely accepted among modern scholars as giving the committee the best possible access to what God inspired in the original documents.

For the Old Testament the Masoretic Text, the standard Hebrew text as published in the latest edition of Biblia Hebraica, has been used throughout. The NIV translators have sometimes used variants of the Hebrew Masoretic tradition or other ancient versions, where these seemed to provide a superior text than the Masoretic tradition. These are all noted in the NIV translator footnotes that appear at the bottom of the page of the text that they reference.

For the New Testament, the translators have used the accepted Greek New Testament text as printed in the Nestle-Aland and United Bible Societies’ Greek New Testaments. Here also the translators have occasionally accepted a variant printed in these editions. Footnotes usually indicate the options in each case."

eleos1954 · 2025-11-23T11:50:41-0600

Michie said:
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., said Friday night she would resign from Congress in early January. The announcement followed a public breakdown in her relationship with President Donald Trump over issues including the release of Jeffrey Epstein-related files.

In a statement posted to X, Greene said her final day as representative of Georgia’s 14th District will be Jan. 5, 2026, citing Trump’s alleged recent attacks on her as a key reason for her decision.

Trump had called Greene a “traitor” and a “lunatic” after she supported a bill requiring the Department of Justice to disclose its Epstein investigation records, The Christian Post reported earlier this week.

Continued below.

Marjorie Taylor Greene announces resignation after Trump spat

Rep Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga , said Friday night she would resign from Congress in early January The announcement followed a public breakdown in her relationship with President Donald Trump over

www.christianpost.com

Trump sees it as a distraction away from what he considers more important matters ... maybe ... but people want to know about it regardless. No doubt it will dominate the news cycle .... people just need to stay on top of the other things going on as well. Focus on all the issues.

Michie · 2025-11-23T11:50:36-0600

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eleos1954 · 2025-11-23T11:45:24-0600

Bob Crowley said:
I've often mentioned my (old) Presbyterian pastor whom I learnt a lot from, although he discouraged me. The night my father died he turned up in my room.

I was an atheist at the time, but he predicted I'd become Christian, and as part of that "... You will meet a pastor. You'll think he's great, but all he'll do is to discourage you even more!" (than he had himself).

I met the pastor circa 1982/83. When I was going to leave his church in 1991 (I was getting married and moving away) he admitted he had discouraged me, but as I said I still hold him in high respect. Incidentally h was not an admirer of some of the "last days" stuff which comes out of various (mainly Protestant) personalities in the USA in the main, saying "... it's a bit weird..."

But he had some thoughts on the issue. For one thing he was very firm on the business about no man knows the day or the hour of Christ's return. It could be tomorrow, and it could be 10,000 years down the track. We haven't been told.

However I find that if he thought something would happen it did sooner or later. Several of his predictions have come to pass since he died in 1992, including my becoming Catholic (1997); there would be a lot of priestly pedophile cases after I became Catholic (media from around 2002); my sister would get leukemia and not live very long which happened (2005 aged 45); his own eldest son would have a major health breakdown which was a stroke (1996 or 97); there would be a pandemic (Covid 2020); there would be a second Gulf War as the "... Americans will have had enough of Saddam Hussein and they will get rid of him. But I think they will lose a FEW men the next time (2003); I'd make a silly mistake at work and "they" would use that to get rid of me (1995); etc. These were all predicted and they all happened.

He wasn't an admirer of Zionism, commenting that ".... they've served their purpose ..." (it's up to the Jews to recognise Christ, not the other way round). But he also conjectured "I think He (God) is going to drive us off the planet... I think we'll learn to teleport..."

He died in 1992, and (from Wikipedia) "the first successful The first successful experimental quantum teleportation of a photon's polarization was achieved by two independent research groups in 1997", five years later.

It's a long cry from that event to teleporting material objects, and even more so living creatures which have a spirit.

But I think we'll get around that obstacle eventually, although there will most likely be a considerable hiatus between the first inanimate teleportation and the first biological teleportation.

We've moved a long way in space travel since World War II. Robert Goddard's rockets might have gone a couple of hundred feet into the air in the 1920's. The V2's were flying about 250 kms in 1944; and NASA landed men on the moon a mere 25 years later. And of course we now have AI and robotics both of which would be absolutely necessary for a civilisation in space. It's obvious God is letting us do these things, which implies they form part of His plan.

As Dietrich Bonhoeffer might have put it, Man has "Come of Age".

Now suppose his prediction happens, that God does indeed drive us off the planet - what price Jerusalem or for that matter Rome in a civilisation which might be spread through a fair section of the Milky Way? I'm Catholic and I accept the Petrine Chair - Christ was setting up an office and giving the church authority when He declared Peter the Rock.

But I know of no Biblical mandate for Rome to be the "eternal city".

The way politics is going we could well be heading for nuclear wars, and those cities could easily be destroyed.

So I'm not over impressed with hardline pronunciations about either Jerusalem or Rome for that matter. In the end they're just cities.

That's my cold blooded view, and that's what I think.

Just follow the Lamb wherever He goes .... can't go wrong with that ;o)

Lukaris · 2025-11-23T11:39:47-0600

MT Green was thrown under the bus as was Schumer by the far radical left on the left side. Things like honor & respect are dead in today’s American politics. This isn’t new but I think it’s almost total now. Before it was at least haphazard.

I can’t stand Schumer ( politically) but if I was a lib, he would have been a hero to me. Instead, he failed on the shutdown ( his failure wasn’t stupid) & all his past efforts are yesterday’s sawdust.

Nithavela · 2025-11-23T11:37:30-0600

Valletta said:
The crime problems are similar to those in New York City, Chicago, and San Francisco. Older Asian women are targets. Add to that poor planning. The system should not have been above ground and the above ground system was put on street level which means now putting in turnstiles instead of the current honor system would be extremely expensive. A number of homeless simply lived on the rail cars or at the stops. Instead of focusing on the perpetrators of the crimes St. Paul was working on reparations and "gun violence." Repeat offenders do not seem to phase them.

St. Paul becomes first city in coalition to pass gun violence prevention ordinance

St. Paul, Minnesota, has adopted a comprehensive gun violence prevention ordinance on Wednesday. The ordinance bans assault-style weapons and high-capacity magazines. It was passed unanimously by the City Council.

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You know, if mankind went extinct, all those safety issues would go away.

ChubbyCherub · 2025-11-23T11:36:47-0600

SabbathBlessings said:
Hi Chubby,

You might like this Bible study on Revelation and than they go into Daniel. Its 112 episodes that are about 30 minutes each. There are two pastors and two lay people going through the Book of Revelations and this is a great study.

Revelation is highly symbolic but the Bible explains what these symbols means clearly, if we allow Scriptures to interpret Scripture.

Anyway, it was a Bible study I really enjoyed, listened to it twice. If you go through it please be sure to have your Bible handy, because its pretty much just going through it word for word.

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Thank you very, very much! I will take a look!

I have not read Revelations with the family yet so any assistance with what I know will be a million questions will be gratefully received.

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