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The Schumer Shutdown

only for that to weaken my employer to the point where he can no longer afford to keep the union around, let alone me.
Why do you have a responsibility to support your boss? If he can’t run a business without being able to pay a fair wage he should go out of business and someone else should step up.
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China on the rise

China is very calculated and extremely slow to anger. They are the only country who seeks to have a relationship with every country no matter what political ideology. Their strategy is ultimately one of peace through power.

My take anyway.
They seek connections but usually on their own terms. Relationship implies some sense of equality. They respect national sovereignty and the rule of international law when it does not conflict with their own agenda. e.g., in the South China Sea. Their strategy seems more like wait until we are powerful enough to do whatever we please. Until then, just play both sides, present as the Peacemaker, and avoid unnecessary conflicts.
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Pet Reincarnated?

I have a pet dog that died almost 10 years ago and a week before my birthday. Missed her dearly, she was my best friend.

Couple of months ago, I saw her in a dream. It was her except in slightly different colors. Same typical Malinoise (German Shepherd) colors but without the white spots and her claws, instead of being transparent, her claws was black in the dream. She was young again. I was playing with her in that dream. A really nice and happy dream because my late dad was also there.

Last month I finally visited a cousin out in the countryside. She had invited me to her house so many times already but couldn't due to problems and commitments until finally, I decided to go.

She had around 10 dogs in her house but only saw 5 who greeted us when we arrived.

After two days in her house, I saw one of her dogs I hadn't seen since I got to her house. It was the same dog in my dream! A young Malinoise-looking and colored dog with no white spots and had black claws!

I approached the dog slowly at first and she began wagging her tail. The other dogs didn't, all barked me at first but didn't take long to become friendly.

As I got even closer she fell on her back and still wagging and started panting in excitement. I started rubbing her belly and she started play-biting my finger.

The other dogs didn't behave the same way, though they went rushing to me to get a head rub but none fell down on their back and as the other dogs got closer, "my" dog start chasing and biting them away, she's smaller than the other dogs and wanted my undivided attention.

Here's the shocker, the last day I saw my original dog alive, she also fell on her back and kept on wagging her tail and won't come back up. She don't usually do it but seemingly begging me to stay and not leave (to work in the Middle East).

The next few days, the new dog just wanted to seek me out and play chase with me. I also played chase with my original dog A LOT and play-biting was also her thing! But it was me who initiated the chase but with the new dog, the roles have reversed.

My cousin tells me that dog is extremely shy and potentially dangerous to strangers, yet somehow, strangely, behaved quite different around me. Not shy but rather excited.

I am happy. I truly believed it was my old dog we had reunited and happy to see her and also doing quite well.

Yet I should have been much happier yet somehow, my emotions are not as sensitive anymore. I feel like a part of me has died from all the trauma I've been through since. Just to make it clear, I didn't go to Middle East as a soldier. I went there as an office assistant in a civilian company. Back home is where I had PTSD.

Yet, these could all be symbolic from the dream to the actual witnessing of exactly the same events in my dream - reuniting with my dead dog who is alive again in a better place (my cousin's place is literally 10x better than ours!)
God told me that cats, dogs and other pets never die, they go to heaven like Enoch (Hebrews 11:5), so they dig their way out of the grave and go to heaven with their physical body, their earthly tent and get healed there, and they don’t get cremated the angels at the crematorium just warm them by a fire then they wake up and wander off and you are just given some of the ashes from the fire. If you dig up the grave it will just be a hallucination. Then they can appear to you again as other cats and dogs and can find you again and be your pet again, just with different coat markings, though they will probably look similar. So the dog you saw was your actual old pet. I believe this that they never die. God said to me also, “I would never kill your childhood best friend.” When He told me all this I have told you He also passed the test of spirits (1 John 4:1-3).
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CATFISHING? Ai Videos Use Prominent Pastor's Name to Push Their Heretical Teachings

so sad now you can't trust anything you see or hear.
Perhaps someone knows where Jesus said basically do not trust what you can see with your (physical) eyes, and do not trust what you can hear with your (physical) ears.
i.e. perhaps it is so sad that that is what deceives everyone - they do not recognize what is important vs what is not.
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JK Rowling slams Emma Watson for 'trashing' women's rights in favor of gender-confused men: 'She's ignorant'

This is what we are seeing at the moment. The walking back of progressive radical ideology. But this is really another manifestation of the same thing. The ideology is very adaptable and will change with the circumstances to survive.

We seen this with how some progressive politicians changed to suit whatever audience they were addressing. One moment a Southern Baptist and the next a radical BLM activist and supporting radical trans or Islamist.

Good on Emma if she is genuine and we should welcome such change and move on. But I think it takes more than some social media status. Lets hope this is the beginning of some sanity and unity.
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Thus says the Lord

I don't usually look at the dates of posts - no matter the date, the truth remains the truth. (there may be exceptions, but that's a different matter)
We are not alone, as you say, but few in number; several or many have been silenced in our lifetimes; and many won't visit a forum anywhere because of the ungodly contention and lack of support for the truth, or few seeking truth.
Yes, I agree that many sadly fall into worldly ideas about God, Jesus Christ, salvation, etc. rather than suffer hardship or ridicule for the sake of Christ. Such thoughts make me so grateful to God for the opportunity He has granted me to write a weekly bible message of about 300 words for our local (secular) newspaper.
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Emergency abortion denials by Catholic hospitals put woman in danger, after her water broke at 17 weeks, lawsuit claims

It's a hospital open to the public for fee. No dice.
The soup kitchens of the Little Sisters of the Poor are open to the public as well. There is nothing in the Constitution that says religious freedom is thrown out the window for hospitals and soup kitchens.
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Hamas Accepts part of Trumps Peace Plan before deadline

All I know is I don't trust Hamas or any of the Palestinian organisations or representative swith connections to radical Islam. No matter what they say it is not because they have suddenly come to their senses and have found some humanity and support for democratic government.

In this political climate and culture wars I don't trust anyone. Any peace deal being promoted is one of this world and the principalies and dark forces pulling the strings. Its a peace agreement that is held together with threats of war and hidden agendas.

At the end of the day Hamas and other radicals only understand one thing hate and terror and the power of war. They are capitulating because they know the end is near for them in Gaza. If they don't surrender they will be eradicated from Gaza.

Any deal must have the return of hostages but also a complete surrender and the installation this time of a democratic government under the guide of a international body.

THis will be hard as we have seen that even in western domestic politics homegrown radicals including politicians are trying to undermine democracy and freedoms with ideology.

So not only does a democratic government need to be installed. But a model one needs to be upheld and nt bring the same culture wars that are happening in western nations that will undermine this transition.

Perhaps this can be a time when the world comes together to re-establish the truth principles we built our nations on in helping the Gazans establish themselves.
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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

To be honest I did not even read the detail. Just took it for granted that a certificate of authenticity stating its a predynastic vase was a certificate of authenticity for a predynastic vase. Thats what the certificate says. Its certifying its authenticity as a predynastic vase lol. Otherwise its false advertisement and they can be sued.

If you notice down the bittom of the certificate it says purchase dare 1979 and mentions it comes from a collection. I think this collection is what gives it provedence from memory in another article. Some vases were from a famous collector in the 60's after the 6 day Isreali war who was a Isreali general who had obtained vases directly from digs when Isreal took back the land in parts of Egypt.

Anyway I am not trying to hide the provedence of any vase and have acknowledged that some come from the 60's and 70's. I argued that it would be silly for a forger to fake high precision in vases when it was totally unnecessary as precision was not an issue back then. No one was going on about it back then.

Just making the vase would require specialist and be very expensive to make for a back street fake antiques dealer. They could have got away with a far less precise vase as they appear similar until you get down to the micro level. So the whole idea about fakes being made 60 odd years ago is a weak arguement.

Its then pushed to deny the fact that many vases come from museums. So unless you want to start calling museum pieces fakes I don't think the whole provedence red herring is enough to refute the precise vases being made in predysnastic times.
So if this story is to be believed it is a looted artifact taken from occupied territory during a war. He should repatriate it to Egypt then as he does not legally possess it.

I just found another vase from Matt Bealls collection that has provedence back to 1962 with excellent precision. Even does a live metrology to show its precision.
What dig? (I don't buy the gold is original for one second, either.)
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Were Andronicus and Junia apostles?

Paul calls them apostles, not that the apostles that knew Jesus personally, the remaining 11, all came together to talk about the many thousands of Christians at that moment. They had an ancient postal service between them in Rome and Russia and Greece, Jerusalem, India and Egypt... it could not work that they took "note".
Paul doesn't say that Andronicus and Junia are apostles; he says that among the apostles, they were of note, in ither words, the apostles counted them as noteworthy. As John Gill wrote in his commentary on the verse concerned: "they were well known by, and in great account with the twelve apostles, though not of their number." Barnes gives a more lengthy comment: "This does not mean that they were apostles, as has been sometimes supposed. For,

1. there is no account of their having been appointed as such.

2. The expression is not one which would have been used if they [had] been. It would have been, "who were distinguished apostles." Comp. Ro 1:1 1Co 1:1 2Co 1:1 Col 1:1.

3. It by no means implies that they were apostles. All that the expression fairly implies is, that they were known to the other apostles; that they were regarded by them as worthy of their affection and confidence; that they had been known by them, as Paul immediately adds, before he was himself converted. They had been converted before he was, and were distinguished in Jerusalem among the early Christians, and honoured with the friendship of the other apostles.

4. The design of the office of apostles was to bear witness to the life, death, resurrection, doctrines, and miracles of Christ. Comp. Mt 10 Ac 1:21,22 22:15. As there is no evidence that they had been witnesses of these things, or appointed to it, it is improbable that they were set apart to the apostolic office,

5. The word apostles is used sometimes to designate messengers of churches; or those who were sent from one church to another on some important business; and if this expression meant that they were apostles, it could only be in some such sense as having obtained deserved credit and eminence in that business. See Php 2:25 2Co 8:23.
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The Doctors Are Real, but the Sales Pitches Are Frauds

If it seems too good to be true it probably is. Unfortunately scammers appeal to emotion and prey on the weak. Best thing to do is to verify any claim to make sure is true. The good thing about the internet is that it usually will have information that will help catch the scam for those that research the claim.
Unless, of course, the mainframe system is responsible for the scams and has produced unlimited studies or documents without merit.
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The danger of conspiracy theories

This is as much—and maybe more—of a public health threat as Covid-19.
If as is the case often-times, the 'leaders' (whoever, wherever) have deceived the public to cover up the facts whether to 'look good' or to try to avoid liability, then the worse threat is that the public will continue to believe those same leaders and be led to destruction (of body or of soul) because "business as usual" is notven close to "truth is usual" but , I think, much more often, to make more money as usual or to protect anyone in a position of authority or power who produced much harm in many people on a "business as usual" purpose or excuse.
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The Son of Man and the Throne Room

What does that have to do with Jesus coming to earth? I thought you were questioning whether Jesus even returns to earth? Clearly, you're not admitting that he comes to the Mt. of Olives!

So now, your point seems to be that Jesus comes to the earth for Israel but takes the Body of Christ to heaven to be there? Please explain for me what you're trying to say in this regard?
I said quote : - Jesus will come to the Mount of Olives just as God`s word said - (Acts 1: 11 & Zech. 14: 4) And that is to deliver Israel and bring vengeance upon the rebellious. So please read more carefully.

Jesus comes for His Body prior to the trib, and after the trib, He will come (with His angelic army) to earth for a time to deliver Israel, judge the rebellious and then set up His kingdom rule through Israel, (as promised).

Then the Lord returns to His own seat of power and authority in the third heaven, given by the Father. (Ps. 2: 6 Eph. 1: 20- 22) It is from there he will rule over all God`s great kingdom.
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The law, the commandments, and Christians.

The Law, as revealed by God and fulfilled in Christ, serves as a moral compass and pedagogical guide for the Christian faithful. It includes the Mosaic Law, especially the Decalogue, and finds its perfection in the New Law of the Gospel. “The Law has become our tutor unto Christ” (Galatians 3:24), and its enduring moral precepts are reaffirmed by the Church as binding. The Catechism teaches that “the Old Law is a preparation for the Gospel” and “remains necessary for man” as it “denounces and discloses sin” (CCC §1963–1964).

The Ten Commandments, given to Moses on Sinai (Exodus 20:1–17), are “fundamentally immutable” and “engraved by God in the human heart” (CCC §2072). They express the natural law and are reaffirmed by Christ, who deepens their meaning in the Sermon on the Mount (cf. Matthew 5–7). The Commandments are not abolished but fulfilled in charity: “If you love Me, keep My commandments” (John 14:15). They are the foundation of Christian moral life, guiding the faithful in their duties toward God and neighbour.

For the Christian in this world, the Law and Commandments are not burdens but paths to freedom and holiness. Grace enables their fulfilment, and the Spirit writes them anew on the heart (cf. Jeremiah 31:33; CCC §1965–1966). The faithful are called to interiorise the Law, living it not merely by external observance but through love: “Love is the fulfilment of the law” (Romans 13:10). Thus, the Commandments remain essential, not as relics of legalism, but as living expressions of divine wisdom and the way of life in Christ.

The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

I never said I could not sort through these points.
You said what you said.
I think you need to be careful adding to what people are saying and perhaps even worse, doing the same to the Scriptures, since I never see you actually post Scriptures. I have learned its hard to reason when one uses their words as if its equal to God’s Word.
What a stretch! You said, "I see a lot of opinions here, too much to even try to sort through and saying things I never said or even indicated." And now you try to condemn me for inferring from this that you didn't want to "sort through these points?" Even worse, from this you deduce that I read things into the Scriptures? Baloney.
I have sorted through these points too many times to count, but I’ll post it here for people who want to look a little deeper at what Paul is saying.
Oh, I've already dealt with you before, and others like you. The Scriptures say that we are not under the Old Covenant, the Law of Moses. However, that Law does inform us about what Christ would look like using "shadows."

We don't follow shadows--we only follow Christ. Paul condemned those who would put us back under the Law. Those who simply wanted to observe Jewish festivals because they were Jews Paul allowed to happen, because they were cultural and not a matter of law.
So let’s bring more context into Col 2:16-17. There are more than one sabbath in the Scripture. Paul was told to spread the gospel, not change God's commandments written by God Himself, that God promised He would not alter.
Where is this in the passage, that Paul was not told to "change God's commandments" in the Law? It seems like you're making things up, rather than proving things from Scriptures as you claimed you would?
Psa 89:34 Mat 5:18 If we look at the context closely its obvious Paul is not contradicting Jesus who is God on His holy Sabbath- God's own Testimony, that is in heaven Exo 15:5 Rev 11:19 where His word is settled Psa 119:89.
None of these passages prove your point, that Paul upheld Sabbath observance. Reciting OT passages or reciting the Gospels where Jesus is still under the Law does not prove anything with respect to New Covenant law!
God blessed, man cannot take away God's blessing or sanctification. Almost all Scripture on the Sabbath has a thus saith the Lord- God blessed, man cannot reverse Num 23:20
God's blessing upon Israel does not prove anything with respect to New Covenant law! Where is the fulfillment of your promise to prove from the Scriptures that Sabbath observance is still being required?

Quite the opposite, you referred to Colossians 2 where Paul said the exact opposite, that we are not under Sabbath observance. You just declare, without evidence, that there is more than one set of Sabbath requirements that Paul is talking about. Or, perhaps you are recognizing that there are different elements to the entire set of Sabbath requirements? Regardless, Paul in Col 2 rejected the entire set of Sabbath requirements.
and Paul's writings came with a significant warning 2 Peter 3:16 so we must be very careful with his writings and compare it to other Scriptures, such a Jesus own testimony saying His Sabbath would not end at the Cross but His faithful would be keeping 40 years after Mat 24:20 and also for eternity Isa 66:23
There is zero proof of what you promised to prove from Scriptures here.
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

So these are things that are against man. Is the Sabbath that is holy, sanctified and blessed by God against man?
You are trying to use proof texts that are against your position to prove your position! What audatious means you use, to use texts that state the opposite of what you claim.
Lets look at what Jesus said:

Mat 2:28 The Sabbath was made for man

The Sabbath was made for man, what God makes for man is not against us. The Sabbath is blessed and sanctified by God, its not the definition of contrary and against.
The fact Sabbath was made for man does not contradict the fact it was given to Israel *before the cross.*
So looking at the immediate context shows clearly Paul is not speaking of the Sabbath commandment.
Nothing in the immediate contet shows Paul speaking of anything other than the Sabbath commandment,
Nor does Paul have the authority to change God's written and spoken Testimony Exo 31:18 the words of the covenant Exo 34:28 that God promised He would not alter Psa 89:34 they went from written on tables of stone to written on tablets of the heart 2 Cor 3:3 Heb 8:10 because God keeps His promises.
You are using OT citations under the Law and NT promises to prove Sabbath law is still in effect? That does not follow--non sequitur. The OT is the OT, and NT promises are NT promises. None of this means Sabbath observance is still in effect in the NT era.
The Greek word for sabbath here is plural not singular. So its not speaking of "The" Sabbath day "The holy day of the Lord" as already seen in the context.
Well, the Sabbath laws were varied, but they would all come under the heading of "Sabbath requirements."

The fact that laws were kept in the ark has no bearing at all. The ark was part of the temple, which was destroyed and was part of the Law.

Jesus is the new and eternal temple. His obedience is within him, and in nobody else except by extension of grace.
Paul is quoting Ezekiel all of the sacrifices and offerings.

Eze 45:17 And it shall be the prince's part to give burnt offerings, and meat offerings, and drink offerings, in the feasts, and in the new moons, and in the sabbaths, in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the sin offering, and the meat offering, and theburnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel.
Where did Paul quote Ezekiel? There is no mention of Ezekiel in Paul's statement in Col 2.
What was predicted would end when Jesus came?

Dan 9:27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate."

So this is not about any of the Ten Commandments but about the food and drink offerings, feast days that some were also annual sabbath(s) that were handwritten by Moses placed besides the ark of the covenant that came after the fall of man. The Sabbath started at Creation before sin Exo 20:11 so can't be a "shadow" of anything as it is part of God's perfect plan before sin took over and a need for a plan of salvation.
This is a different argument. It seems you're admitting that the sacrifices and offerings came to an end at Christ's crucifixion. That's when *all* of the requirements of the Law were nailed to the crosss.

But now you're arguing for God's rest after creation. That is not what Paul was talking about. He was talking about Sabbath Law under the Law of Moses. Not the same thing.

Israel was given the Sabbath Law as an acknowledgement of God as Creator who rested on the 7th day. But that was God's Sabbath--not Israel's Sabbath. Israel had their own Sabbath to show their recognition of God's Sabbath.
There is so much more evidence I could provide like comparing what Jesus said which in using Col 2:14-16 against the Sabbath commandment contradicts His teachings.
You haven't provided any evidence at all that Paul rejected Sabbath observance as under the Law of Moses. Nothing is more clear in Paul's writings than he was opposed to anybody who tried to reimpose the requirements of the Law upon anybody.

And if in your attempt to reinstate Sabbath Law you're trying to reestablish the authority of the Law of Moses Paul would condemn you. You'll never find your obedience accepted if it is not under authority of Christ. And Christ's forgiveness is free, and not under the Law of Moses.

If you want to observe Sabbath Day as a custom feel free. But you're not free to require any aspect of the Law of Moses. It is passe.
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Are infants guilty because of Adam's sin?

These arguments rarely produce fruit in my opinion.

What i can say though from personal experience is that i sinned, while still in the womb, and became affected by a generational curse of powerlessness from my moms side of the family.

This matter was revealed to me initially, indirectly, in a dream 6 years ago. It took about 5 months to get rid of it.


I tend to believe that the imputed sin nature is biological in nature. Its the animal instinct that lies. Cheats, steals, to feed its own face.
Its the part of the brain that when you cut the connective tissue and show a person an image in their left or right eye(i cant recall which) the other half of the brain which knows the other part saw something it cant see, Will Lie and confidently blurt out something random that it insists it saw.

The devil was a liar from the beginning
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Poems

I have written numerous short stories of varying lengths of differing genres. One of them is an apocalyptic 3,000-word story entitled "The Return." It is a story of the rapture and the return of Christ to the earth. I've tried to place it with a magazine without success. I would like to find a home for it.
Why don't you share one or two with us?
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