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JPPT1974's Daily Devotions

JPPT1974's Tues Thoughts 12/16/2025:
How that when Jesus would
Come from very humble beginnings
He would not be just an ordinary
King but the King of Kings and
Lord of Lords and that He would
Come to serve us and to save
Us from our sins and for us to not be
Eternally separated from God when we
Leave this world or when Jesus comes back.
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A big advantage of fire

Put some fire in that life of your for some amazing outcomes!

*A man can be short, dumpy, and getting bald, but if he has fire, women will like him. -Mae West

E = mc2... Or divided... Mass (m) = Fire (E/c2)...

Natural E/c2 - All mass is basically cooled plasma
Mental E/c2 - Mentally, A mathematical formula, but this has chemical and spiritual properties as well.
Spiritual E/c2 - E (motivation, warmth, love) / c2 (faith, hope, charity, joy)

Is Hell Annihilationism or Eternal Torment

You're welcome. Thank you for also sharing your thoughts on these matters in turn. I appreciate your brotherly composure. :cool:
Yeah, I believe we can have friendly and civil discussions and share what we believe and why we believe it.
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Dream of Jesus Counseling and Teaching

Wondering if this dream fits your current perspective of Jesus?

Wanting His teaching and counseling yet guarded.

We can become so busy and forget that nothing is more important than spending time with Him. Sometimes we compartmentalize Him - setting limitations. Suggest doing a study of some of God's names, titles, and attributions. In my research, I only used the online lists that included Scripture so they could be checked out.
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The Fall of the West (It's Happening Now)

Sure if they can forcibly overrun it.. Not the same as a quiet democratic takeover through numbers
Can you provide an example of a democracy being so quietly taken over? Not overthrown, but over run with a slow creep? Do not use the UK right now, which is still a democracy, name a place where what you are describing has actually happened?
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JPPT's Faithful Thoughts and Devotions (3)

JPPT1974's Thurs Thoughts 12/18/2025:
Mary was a teen that
Really we don't know much
About other than being the
Wife of Joseph and in the
Virgin mom of Jesus and
Not knowing that she would
Really have a huge part in history
Over being the one and only woman giving
Birth while she was a virgin.
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KJV

So we’re gonna keep casually ignoring KJV is the only translation that says Christ was crucified before the Galatians?
Sorry, but where does any translation of the bible say that Christ was crucified before the Galatians? The word "Galatians" doesn't even appear in the KJV (except in the title of Paul's letter to the Galatians. "Galatia" is mentioned 8 times, but not once in connection to the crucifixion:

Ac 16:6 Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia,
Ac 18:23 And after he had spent some time [there], he departed, and went over [all] the country of Galatia and Phrygia in order, strengthening all the disciples.
1Co 16:1 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.
Ga 1:2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:
Ga 3:1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
Ga 6:18 Brethren, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ [be] with your spirit. Amen. [To the] Galatians written from Rome.
2Ti 4:10 For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica; Crescens to Galatia, Titus unto Dalmatia.
1Pe 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
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Why we are not supposed to keep the Sabbath

How did I abuse:

Acts 5: 29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men. 30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree. 31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. 32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.

If you are going to make such serious accusations you should at least provide some evidence. Something I said that contradicts what is actually written in scripture. I don't think God is going to just take your word for it, and either should I. Show me where I twisted these or any scriptures so I can be corrected, isn't that the reason for the Holy Scriptures in the first place, at least according to Paul?

2 Tim. 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:



But Dan, I absolutely answered your accusation towards me by posting for you who Paul was Speaking about when he said;

9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have "before proved" both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;

I showed where Paul "before proved" that "They" (whose damnation is just), not "WE" (Church of God) as you assert, but they are all under sin.

Rom. 2: 7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing "seek for" glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: (Church of God, who Seeks God)

8 "But unto them" that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, ( children of men, who doesn't Seek God)

9 Tribulation and anguish, upon "every soul of man" that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

But You didn't even address Paul's words at all, as I asked. Nor David's Words that Paul quoted that I asked you to review. You didn't even acknowledge them. And now you are accusing me of not answering your questions.

The Church of God are NOT the men that God, David, Paul and Jesus said refused to Seek Him. Someone has convinced "many" that there is no difference between David and Paul, and the Pharisees. But it wasn't Paul, or David or Jesus or the Holy Scriptures, in my view.

Abel was Righteous, Noah was Righteous, Abraham was righteous, Caleb was righteous, David was righteous. Here is what God teaches about Zacharias, not according some preacher I listened to, but according to the Actual Holy Scriptures. Shall I not believe them?

Luke 1: 5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth. 6 And they were both "righteous before God", walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

So according to Peter's Words that I also posted, and were completely ignored, Zacharias should have been given by God, the Holy Spirit, Yes?

Luke 1: 67 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying, 68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people, 69 And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David; 70 As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:

Zacharias actually knew of and believed in the Messiah before HE was even born. While the children of men didn't believe Him when HE was healing people right in front to them.

But there are men that are trying to convince me that Abel's, Noah's, Abraham's, Caleb's, Daniel's, Shadrack's, Simeon's, Cornelius's and even Zacharias's, "mouth is an open sepulechre". That Paul was judging all these faithful obedient men, of never seeking God.

Consider the words of David that Paul quoted;

Ps. 9:9 The LORD also will be a refuge for the oppressed, a refuge in times of trouble. 10 And they that know thy name will put their trust in thee: for thou, LORD, hast not forsaken "them that seek thee".

But there are those who will not Seek the Lord.

Ps. 10: 4 The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will "not seek after God": God is not in all his thoughts.

Ps. 27: 4 One thing have I desired of the LORD, that "will I seek after"; that I may dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to behold the beauty of the LORD, and to enquire in his temple.

Ps. 22: 26 The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the LORD "that seek him": your heart shall live for ever.

Ps. 24: 3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place? 4 He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully. 5 He shall receive the blessing from the LORD, and righteousness from the God of his salvation. 6 This is the generation of them "that seek him", "that seek thy face", O Jacob. Selah.

Ps. 27: 8 When thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, "will I seek".

Ps. 34: 10 The young lions do lack, and suffer hunger: but they "that seek the LORD" shall not want any good thing. 11 Come, ye children, hearken unto me: I will teach you the fear of the LORD.

Ps. 63: 1 O God, thou art my God; early "will I seek thee": my soul thirsteth for thee, my flesh longeth for thee in a dry and thirsty land, where no water is;

I could go on and on and on. The teaching that Paul and David, who Paul quoted, is teaching that there is NO ONE that Seeks God, might hold water if a man rejects the entire rest of the Bible.

What I'm saying is that according to what is actually written in scriptures, when all of them are considered, there are "Children of men" who refuse to Seek Him. But there are also those men who believe what Jesus instructed us to do, "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and "his righteousness"; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Paul and Peter and Zacharias, and David and Abraham and Noah and all the Faithful examples God gave us in the Scriptures that make up the Church of God, are not the target of Paul or David or God's teaching. Not because I said so, but because of all the Holy Inspired Words of God, that I posted for men's consideration, said so.

10 As it is written, Ps. 14: 1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. 2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. 3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one. 4 Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the LORD.

5 There were they in great fear: for "God is in" the generation of the righteous.




It was the teaching of the Post that I challenged, as I am instructed to do. It was nothing personal, except that it was your post.



God, His Son, the Jesus "of the Bible", James, Peter and Moses, all the Prophets and Paul all refute this religious philosophy when a man considers all of their teaching, in my view. I even posted Peter's own Words in the hope that men might consider them and become "renewed in the spirit of their mind" and consider Peter's teaching. Men are free to lash out at me, Jesus said it would be this way, and I really don't care. And God knows I don't like being corrected either in the moment, but have grown to be thankful for the correction, once I get control of my flesh. It's more important to me personally that men consider the Scriptures and maybe by discussing them we can grow in the knowledge of the Lord.



God Word seem to contradict this in my understanding. While every man has sinned, there are those who "repented", Turned to God", and brought forth "works worthy of repentance", as Paul teaches both Jew and Gentile. If men are interested in finding out who God said obeyed Him, I am happy to provide for them several people who God's Word Itself, Glorified to the point that everyone, who has ever had a Bible, knows that they were Faithful obedient servants to God. How many men who died in Sodom, do we know the names of? Not One, Yes? But we do know about Abraham whose SEED was blessed by God Himself, as God Said "Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws. Why would a person want to demean these most Faithful men by preaching to others that they, or their faithful obedience to God never existed, and in the process, accuse God of Lying about them?



I would really be interested in the source of this teaching, because I know that the Holy Scriptures, nor the God who inspired them, nor Moses and the Prophets HE sent, nor His Son Jesus, nor any of His Apostles ever said that God gave His People Laws, to show them they couldn't keep them, which means both HE lied to men when HE told them they could keep them, and yet God killed them by the thousands when they didn't keep them. I would advocate really "Taking heed" of a religious sect or business that promoted such a philosophy, given what is actually written in Scriptures.

We are all born into a world in which religious deceivers exist "that Profess to know God". Just as Eve was placed in the same world.

I advocate that men "come out of her" and follow the Christ "of the bible", and become a "Doer of His Sayings" and not a hearer only.

But it seems like a very controversial position to take, in this world God placed me in.
To abuse Gods Word, is to contradict what God has said. I already asked you, why you don't believe what Gods Word says in Romans 3:11 "There is none that seek after God".

Gods Word says "there is none that seek after God", but you reject it and contradict God, by claiming that you seek after Him everyday. So that's why I responded the way I did.

So, instead of giving a reason why you reject the truth that Gods Word clearly revealed, and list a bunch of unrelated verses which speak about Gods elect prophets. You seem to have forgotten the fact that none of those prophets were seeking after God,, until, God gave them the gift of repentance, and the gift of His grace, and the gift of faith, and the gift of His Holy Spirit and a long list of other gifts which are all necessary for salvation.

Abraham and Moses and everyone else you tried to misrepresent, were all saved in the exact way that I was. We were all born "dead in our sin", we were all born as slaves to Satan, we were all born hating God, and loving our sin. We were all born enemies of God, and His Word was foolishness to us and we would never believe any of it in a billion years.

So, now that we have established those few facts, we can conclude that none of us chose to repent and put our faith in the One we hate. So God had to do everything for us, we could do nothing for ourselves because we were dead and dead men can only stink and that's all.

But you're proposing that dead men can resurrect themselves and create their own faith and repentance, to cash in on the free offer of eternal paradise, instead of remaining on the path to the lake of fire., See you private opinions are not supported by any scriptures at all,, and you gave no viable defence for your unbiblical theology.

Please show me where the Bible says that dad men can resurrect themselves and create a new nature for themselves, where they are transformed from God hater to God lovers, and where they hate everything they loved before and love everything they hated before they resurrected themselves.

I'll save you time, by confirming that no such scriptures exist, someone has taught you man made religion, instead of what Gods Word actually teaches.
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Tim Walz Vows to Bring More Somalis to Minnesota, Despite Growing Fraud Scandal Reaching Into the Billions

And what of those who were members of the Minnesota government who knew about the fraud, covered for it, and benefited from it? Let's say people like Ilan Omar and Tim Waltz?
If there's evidence of wrongdoing, charge them and let the courts decide. If not, they're innocent until proven guilty, just like everyone else.

-- A2SG, supposedly.....
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What does the Bible teach about the role of men?

Men should love their wives and wives should respect their husbands.

Considering how many of Satan's resources are applied to attack and subvert men, we can assume how important it is to resist.
How much respect should she give an unbelieving husband?
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Wake Up Dead Man

I just finished watching "Wake Up Dead Man", the third movie in the Knives Out series. It's a complicated murder mystery, which I won't spoil by discussing any plot details here. But what caught my attention most about the movie is that, in the character of Father Jud (a Catholic priest), we see one of the most accurate portrayals of the Christian faith at its best that I've ever seen on screen.

Most often, movies don't even address religion. If they do, it's often generically bland; or, worse, the religious dialogue is clumsy, and the religious characters are flat caricatures. Only rarely have I seen Christian characters portrayed with a faith that resembles my own and dialogue that sounds like Christians I know in real life. This is one of those rare movies. I recommend it, for that reason.

Also, it's a good murder mystery. :)
Thanks .. I was just considering watching it in two hours :) High IMDB rating also ...
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MS-13 Gang Member Kilmar Abrego Garcia to be Deported to African Country of Eswatini

You basically told the truth about Trump. I was happy you noticed the truth about Trump. I guess for some strange reasons, the truth = Sarcasm.
All I have to say is that you have been gaslighted by whatever media you choose to ingest. You will believe what you want to believe.

#Isupportthelatestthing
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State leaders speak out about plans to expand the Islamic Academy of Alabama

You missed the boat. While racism and religious bigotry still exist today in the United States, truly our nation had advanced and was known as the "melting pot" before the recent cultural revolution in the United States. The great positive was that immigrants from nations around the world came to the United States and did live in their own communities there was a lot of intermingling and because of that people learned respect for one another. In the early 1900s Americans, due to crime and other problems, Americans realized that bringing in too many of one culture too fast had negative consequences and thus enacted quotas by country.

What was that culture we "brought in too many of" such that quotas were established in 1924?
Unfortunately a significant portion of Muslims in the world today express contempt and even hatred for Jews and Christians, and even for fellow Muslims (Shiite vs. Sunni) to the point of violence and the justification of killing. Too many see the United States as the Big Satan and Israel as the little Satan. Worldwide events should leave no doubt about this. The slaughter of Jews in Israel was real. The threats of Iran and rocket launched and production of nuclear grade uranium was real. And the "river to the sea" chants and attacks on Jews on U.S. college campus were real. Thus ignoring the successful quota and vetting system in place, PARTICULARLY in this situation, was foolhardy and dangerous at best. Proper vetting should have taken place so that only those Somalians and others who love America and wished to positively assimilate into our culture should have been let in.
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James Comey case: Ex-special counsel John Durham undercut case against James Comey in interview with prosecutors: Sources

They fleeced the laws since 2018, to manufacture reasons to go after Trump...
Nobody had to manufacture anything. Trump committed criminal acts and was found guilty.
so of course they'll fleece the laws TODAY to protect those who committed that lawfare against Trump.
If Trump was competent, he could have made a case. But he's not, so he couldn't.
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Average consumer now carries $6,329 in credit card debt. 'People are stretched,' expert says

Your source started with the 1930s.

The 1930s was a decade.

1933, and 1934, are within the same decade;
Correct, and the fixtures represent the decade, not individual years
so your source is debunked right out of the gate.
Because you misinterpreted the figures?
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