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Priest reported missing in Mexico is found dead

The body of Father Bertoldo Pantaleón Estrada was found on Oct. 6. The Mexican priest had been reported missing on Saturday, Oct. 4, in the state of Guerrero.

The Mexican Episcopal Conference (CEM) and the Diocese of Chilpancingo-Chilapa confirmed that, according to authorities, the priest’s remains were found around 2 p.m. local time. Pantaleón Estrada was the parish priest in the town of Mezcala, located in the southeast of the country.

So far, there are no details regarding the cause of death. The Guerrero state attorney general’s office reported that it has launched an investigation to “clarify what happened.”

In a statement, the bishop of Chilpancingo-Chilapa, José de Jesús González Hernández, asked the authorities to “help us determine the responsibility of those involved in this unfortunate event.”

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Weekly homilies

Saturday, October 11 2025

27th OT



Joel 4:12-21

"Wield the sickle, for the harvest is ripe; Come and tread, for the wine press is full; The vats overflow, for their crimes are numerous. Crowds upon crowds in the Valley of Decision; For near is the day of the Lord in the Valley of Decision."



These people see God as the one who punishes. But when a person does evil, they punish themselves.



After a sin, let us quickly return to the Love of God and avoid blaming others for our evils and then blaming God too.



Luke 11:27-28

Jesus declares: "Blessed are those who hear the word of God and observe it!" »



Here, Jesus says "the word," not "the words."

What is this single Word of Jesus?

Jesus is the Word, He is the Word, and His Word is Love (peace and joy).



Biblical texts: NAB-RE

Normand Thomas.
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The Schumer Shutdown

Whoo boy... Let's go through some misconceptions and out right falsities in that list.
Why do you worry about soybean money from China? Trump's tariffs are raking in hundreds of billions, not to mention the hundred billion dollar investments overseas companies are making here as a result. U.S. Tariff Tracker | How Much Are U.S. Tariffs Raising in Revenue? | Bipartisan Policy Center
That money is coming off of US tax payers pockets. So you've lost all money coming from China in this regard and are about to give, was it 20 billion to the country that took pretty much all of the business you lost.
Noteworthy deals in 2025
  • European Union (EU):In July 2025, the U.S. and the EU finalized a major trade deal.
    • EU commitments: Pledged over $600 billion in U.S. investments by 2028 and $750 billion in purchases of U.S. energy products, such as liquefied natural gas (LNG).
    • U.S. commitments: Agreed to reduce tariffs on most EU imports to a 15% rate, down from a previously threatened 30%.
There is no deal. That's right, there is no signed deal at all. This is what von der Leyen suggested, but right now it looks to be receiving enough resistance from the parliament that it's not going to be signed, because so many groups think it's a bad deal.
Unlike what some in the US seem to think, von der Leyen doesn't have the authority to agree to something like this, it has to be voted on.
Also, some the details are outright false. EU didn't agree to 600 billion in investment. In fact, EU didn't promise to invest a single dollar or euro. What von der Leyen said is that EU companies would do so. Well try to. Because the EU has no means to force private entities to invest in the US if they don't want to. A "please?" is essentially the most.
This is kinda the same when, I think it was during the last Trump term, there was supposedly a huge deal with China that would invest billions into the US. Which never happened and only a small, small fraction ever occured.
  • Japan:The U.S.–Japan Strategic Trade and Investment Agreement was finalized in late July 2025.
    • Japanese commitments: Pledged $550 billion in U.S. investments and increased purchases of U.S. automobiles and energy products.
    • U.S. commitments: Agreed to lower tariffs on Japanese auto imports to 15%, with similar caps on tariffs for pharmaceuticals and semiconductors.
This is also so far a non binding agreement. Nothing is certain yet and the elections that were in Japan a little while ago would affect this as well as, from what I remember, the new PM wasn't a fan of this and has said that the agreement would be re-examined.
  • Middle Eastern investments:Foreign investment pledges in the U.S. were also made by several Gulf nations.
    • United Arab Emirates: Committed to investing $1.4 trillion in the U.S. over the next decade.
    • Qatar: Pledged to generate $1.2 trillion in an economic exchange with the U.S..
    • Saudi Arabia: Committed $600 billion in U.S. investments over four years.
I could find so very details on these that's it's hard to say anything about them right now. So far it seems to be just more of the same "oh yeah, sure we'll do it" without anything concrete.
Besides UAE getting Nvidia chips and a crypto startup Trump is involved in getting investment money.
  • U.S. neighbors:New tariffs were a major factor in trade relations with Canada and Mexico. The U.S. imposed tariffs using powers under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA), citing illegal immigration and illicit drug trafficking, but exempted qualifying goods under the U.S.–Mexico–Canada Agreement (USMCA).
    • Canada: Faced increased tariffs on most goods and a 10% tariff on energy products, with higher rates for transshipped goods.
    • Mexico: Initially faced a 25% tariff on most goods, with higher rates proposed but later delayed.
  • China: A temporary agreement was reached to reduce tariffs previously imposed by both countries, but other tariffs remained in effect. The U.S. also maintained a baseline tariff on all goods from China.
Potential benefits for America
  • Increased foreign investment: Pledges of hundreds of billions of dollars in investments can lead to the creation of new facilities, expansion of U.S. manufacturing, and job growth.
  • Export growth: Purchase commitments, such as the EU's pledge to buy U.S. energy products and Japan's purchase of U.S. agricultural goods, can increase U.S. exports and support domestic industries.
  • Lower consumer prices: Removing or reducing tariffs can lead to lower prices for imported goods, which benefits U.S. consumers.
  • Market access: Trade agreements provide American companies with greater access to foreign markets and help level the playing field by reducing trade barriers imposed by other nations.
  • Stronger alliances: Trade deals can strengthen diplomatic ties and alliances with partner countries.
Did... Was this list just blindly created using an LLM? That's what it reeks of.
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So, what does a Christian marriage look like?

Last week, I commented on the Apostle Paul’s command to Christian husbands “to love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it.” (Eph. 5:25) in my column, "Doug Wilson's view on Christian marriage is blasphemous."

Numerous readers have requested that I expand commentary on the meaning of that comprehensive apostolic instruction.

God considered the institution of marriage to be so sacred and special that He used it as an analogy to describe His relationship with His Chosen People (Israel) and Christ’s relationship with His Bride (the Church).

As the Apostle Paul noted, Jesus died for the Church, giving Himself as a sacrifice that He might redeem humankind. What higher sacrifice can one make than to give his life for another? Husbands are to give themselves in service to their wives, including, if necessary, the sacrifice of their lives.

The husband is to “so love his wife even as himself” (Eph. 5:33). The Apostle Paul amplified these instructions using the word agape, which is morally the highest form of love, in that it is “an in spite of kind of love” that endures all and forgives all. Just as Jesus loved each of us while we were still sinners in rebellion against Him (For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life,” Rom. 5:10).

In fact, agape love is identified as a fruit of the Holy Spirit in one’s life (Galatians 5:22). It is not “natural” to fallen man to love with agape love. Only the redeemed who have the Holy Spirit abiding in them as a consequence of the new birth have the capacity for the agape love with which Christian husbands are commanded to love their wives.

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Another look at the moon landing.

Is the film actually from NASA? Has that been confirmed? If it is from NASA, what was the purpose of the film? For training? For testing equipment? I have not watched it for a while and don't remember how much of it was shown in that nonsense film you posted about. Flat earthers are notorious for editing footage in order to hide the context, so they can claim it proves one thing, when the full context often demonstrates the opposite

The radiation the astronauts were exposed to in those 3 hours was less than what a patient getting an MRI is exposed to in a few minutes.
Adromus as far as I know with the film it’s never been denied as not being NASA”s footage. Many claims that the producer of the film fabricated the footage. But never proven . You say that it’s nonsense Ok many have seen the film and see and think much differently and would disagree with you. As to the radiation claims by NASA the medical books prescribe a much grimmer outlook. Suddenly NASA proclaims to the medical profession it’s all going to be alright. I don’t think so
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The Rise and Rise of the Traditional Latin Mass Pilgrimage

Resurrected pilgrimages to some of the oldest Catholic nations’ most significant spiritual sites are continuing to surge in popularity among devotees of the Traditional Latin Mass.

Former Intel CEO urges Christians to harness AI: 'Another Gutenberg moment'

LITTLETON, Colo. — The former CEO of Intel exhorted an audience of Christians earlier this week to harness the burgeoning potential of AI technology, which he hopes can become "a force for good in this era."

"I believe deeply that technology is neutral," said Pat Gelsinger, who led Intel from 2021 to 2024 and now serves as executive chair and head of technology at Gloo, a technology platform that connects various organizations within the faith ecosystem.

“It's neither good nor bad," Gelsinger said of AI during his keynote address to hundreds at "AI for Humanity: Navigating Ethics and Morality for a Flourishing Future," which The Christian Post and Gloo hosted Tuesday at Colorado Christian University.

"It's how we shape it, how we use it, how we form it," he said. "And we, as the Christian community, we as believers, will we be shaping technology as a force for good? Are we going to show up to be bending the arc of technology for good?"

'We must be engaged'

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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

Well, at least you're managing to drag the perp into the picture.

Let me guess though. You're exempt?

So funny
Oh no. The perp messes with everyone but I just tell him to go to hell.
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Average consumer now carries $6,329 in credit card debt. 'People are stretched,' expert says

One is more likely to be murdered for their fiat currency.

It's important to be discreet, and to be aware of one's surroundings.

Don't flash cash; and be aware that jugging is on the rise.
People are likely to be murdered for whatever other people want. If people are more likely to be murdered for paper money, it's only because paper money is more common, not because it's fiat currency. Unless someone's flashing it, it doesn't attract that much attention. If someone knows that someone has large sums of money at home, they, too, can become a target.

Gold for purchases is non-existent in the US. You can't walk into a store and pay for things in gold dust. Have never seen a gold coin used for such. The moment you pull it out of your pocket, it will attract attention. If gold was used like paper money, it wouldn't attract as much because seeing purchases made with gold would be common place. Anything unusual attracts attention. If someone has gold and starts spending it, it will attract attention just by the novelty of it.
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Family Advice

Thank you for your comment. I absolutely agree with what you're saying. I prayed for my mum to know Jesus, and she did, and now she is coming to church every week. I will continue to pray for my sister too and hope that one day, she'll find Jesus like I did and my mum. I will be here for her if she ever asks any questions about Jesus, church or scriptures.

Thank you for your insight.

Blessings to you
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No One Is Above The Law

Answer my question first:

Question. When a right-wing nut commits a violent crime (let's say ten right-wing nuts commit violent crimes) does that make everyone on the Right violent?

For example, do the J6ers mean everyone on the Right is violent?

-CryptoLutheran
Who is fighting against the rule of law in this country today. Who is committing that popular word “insurrection “ in Chicago and Portland among other places? No everyone on the left does not support violence but far too many do. Fetterman is one notable exception.
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The law, the commandments, and Christians.

Are you living in willful sin?

That's an interesting question completely out of left field.

My answer is no, you can't be living in willful sin and be following Jesus,....

26 ¶ For if we sin willingly after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remaineth a sacrifice for sins,

Let me ask you a question completely out of left field also,... do you own an 83 f250 with a 460 in it? if not, why not?
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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

There you go and thats why I think your too biased to trust. You label these researchers as part time and amateur exposing your true colors. You have it in for anyone who dare suggest that these ancient vases involved advanced knowledge and tech. Before any credentials are checked.

They happen to be employed in precision tooling and one with over 50 years including NASA and pioneering tooling techniques. As well as actually living and being employed in the industry to see the evolution of machining from the 60s to modern times.
So what are their credentials then?
No one at the Artifact Foundation seems to have a strong foundation in metrology (the science).
About | Artifact Foundation

Maximus Energy is the product of Max Fomitchev-Zamilov, and he publishes in actual scientific journals (at least one, Scientific reports).
Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Nothing that is relevant for 3D measurements though.

So who are the metrology experts that I'm missing? It seems that I'm missing one group here, since you said that there were 3 groups doing these kinds of measurements.
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Saving a Soul in the Last Week of Life

Sometimes when we’re younger, reaching out to help someone might include urging them to stop smoking or using drugs or drinking so much. Or to finish school, stick with a job, not drive so fast.These are important and are a way of charity, of caring for others when there’s no benefit to ourselves. We shouldn’t assume someone else is pointing them in the right direction. Addicts often say no one ever tried to persuade them to stop.But once in a while the opportunity presents itself to nudge someone toward something far more important and eternal.

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Does reality pass the Turing test?

Harking back to a previous a post, when the time comes, which seems to be rapidly approaching, that AI can pass the Turing test, or any test that we can devise, will you accept that it's conscious under the same premise... that its consciousness is as real as it needs to be? Will you grant it the right to vote.

I don't think the Turing Test is a good test for consciousness.

There are situations that even people thinks and behaves like programmed entities and this means even programmed responses can pass the Turing Test if programmed responses are not happening most of the time.
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Assembly of God, no longer Pentecostal ?

I visited a local Assembly of God here in Sequoyah County Okla. last weeks mid week service and again yesterday morning , I saw no evidence of the Holy Ghost, no gifts of the Spirit
It is unfortunate to have to travel (maybe you do) to get to meetings of Holy Spirit repute. Reportedly, both east, west and south of you are:

Choctaw Assembly of God, (Choctaw, OK) Engages in regular prayer meetings that emphasize prophetic prayer and healing services.

First Assembly of God, (North Little Rock, Arkansas) Hosts regular Sunday services with intentional space for spiritual gifts, including testimonies of healing.

Gateway Church, (Southlake, Texas) Focuses on Biblical teaching with an emphasis on the use of spiritual gifts in various ministries.''


As far as being a legitimate Pentecostal Church, that AOG district oversight hopefully still maintains that qualification.
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The Conjunction of Opposites

Does this adversary have a free will?
Nope. It's nothing more than robotic action. The switch will be turned off at some point and the antispiritual machinery will be shut down and tossed aside into the eternal fire junk pile

And on we will go
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The Lost House of Israel

influencing humans...
Absolutely that was and continues to be the case

There's a reason "they know not what they do."

Blinded by the god of this world. Captive slaves of an unseen adversary.

All have sin. Sin is "of the devil."

Hey!
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Economic loss for the US

Those Koreans were not here to immigrate. They were not here to work illegally. They were here as employees of a Korean company who thought they were legally here. They were here helping to build a factory for Americans to work in, a factory too technicaaly advanced for US corporate management to understand. That's why ICE was called in.
Why would a large corporation be ignorant of visa laws? Guess they need more lawyers and less factory expertise.
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