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Mel Gibson's screenwriter says 'Passion' sequel emerged from talk about Protestantism

'Satan's going to come after you'

Screenwriter Randall Wallace, who has worked with actor and director Mel Gibson on some of his major films, including "The Passion of the Christ," revealed during a recent interview that Gibson's upcoming two-part movie about the Resurrection emerged from a conversation the two had about the Protestant emphasis on Christ conquering death.

"We were having dinner one night, just the two of us in Dallas, and I said, 'You know, the thing we need to do is the Resurrection,'" Wallace said on the "Verité Vision" podcast that aired Tuesday.

“It's an interesting thing. Catholic friends have said, and I don't want to over-characterize anyone's particular practice, but in Catholicism, there's much more emphasis on the Crucifixion, on the Passion. One Catholic friend of mine said we almost never talk about the Resurrection," he said.

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Televangelist Benny Hinny and wife, Suzanne, finalize divorce for a second time

More than a year after she filed for divorce from televangelist Benny Hinn, Suzanne Hinn's marriage to the popular faith-healer is now officially over for a second time in 46 years.

Records from the Hillsborough County Court in Florida, first cited by the Trinity Foundation, show the Hinns' marriage ended in an uncontested divorce on Nov. 19.

When Suzanne Hinn filed for divorce in the summer of 2024, the former couple had been living in separate homes more than 60 miles apart.

Matthew Wilson, Suzanne Hinn's attorney who works with the Anton Garcia Law firm in Tampa, declined to comment when contacted by The Christian Post on Wednesday.

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Healing and debate. My testimony

I am considering leaving too. I am tired of people commenting without knowledge . These Christian forums need to cater to only one belief not many because this will invite conflict. I don’t like conflict. I want people that do have spiritual knowledge and understanding. All I have seen here is confusion, too many beliefs and opinions that I see plainly contradict scripture. I usually don’t reply once I see they have no understanding. There is a remnant of true believers and their number is extremely few. I came here to try to find more of this remnant but it’s difficult to do this because of the huge number of people here. I have on another Christian site found two of these remnants and we along with 4 others fellowship on Signal. That will probably be the only thing that I will do once I have had my fill of this site.
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Why 'Third Wayism' is modern gnostic heresy

There is a political party in the US that is exactly that, socially conservative and fiscally liberal. I am a member of it and a few others here are a member of it too. And one doesn't need to be a socialist or communist to be fiscally liberal no matter how much the political conservatives scream that you are if you are fiscally liberal. This political party hails Pro-Life legislature and fair LGB rights responsibly (there is no push for T rights which most Christians would agree). Do a Google search on political parties in the US and there you will find it listed.
I am not sure which party you're talking about but there is not really anything socially conservative about homosexuality. The closest thing we have to social conservatism + fiscal liberalism is groyperism
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The Reality of Free Will

Did God create his intelligent children with free will?
Yes. But has sin affected how free a person's will is actually going to function?

Yes, someone can choose at any moment to do anything, at all . . . but how much does the person's real character affect what the person will choose to do or not?

Because God is all-loving, by nature, He actually does choose to do all-loving things, right?

But if some human has a will but the person is selfish . . . doesn't the person's real character affect what the person's will is able to choose??

Therefore, does the reality of my will include the reality of the character of my will? And does my character have a major influence on what I am really capable of choosing?

But, then > if Jesus makes a person > "free indeed" > in John 8:36 > does this change the nature and reality of the freedom of someone's will?

And where does this new freedom come from, if Jesus makes someone "free indeed"?

It is written > "for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure." (Philippians 2:13)

So, if we are children of God, God Himself is working our wills, it seems to me, from this scripture. So, I see how God is sharing His own freedom with us in our wills, while He is working what we will. And so, we can choose more and better, with God working in us.

Could it be "like" how a car can have the ability to do different things, but what the car can actually do depends on who is operating the car?

If God is operating my free will, then, I can choose - - - with God, in sharing with God - - - to do what is better than what I can choose without God.

So, then, perhaps we can agree that the reality of our free wills has a lot to do with our real character of our free wills, along with whoever is in union with us and really is operating our wills with us.

God "works in you both to will . . .", we have in Philippians 2:13.

Also, we have that there is "the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience" > in Ephesians 2:2. So, how does this affect the reality of someone's will . . . if Satan's evil and selfish spirit is working in the person??
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Do you keep the Sabbath? (poll)

Isaiah 1 shows us that the Sabbath is not the primary commandment. God gave it to Israel for their good, but God desires more than a mere show of worship.

Do you love your enemies? Do you sacrifice your personal will and desires for the greater glory of God? What challenged you most about the scriptures? If you can’t answer or say the sabbath, you miss the point.

13 Offer sacrifice no more in vain: incense is an abomination to me. The new moons, and the sabbaths, and other festivals I will not abide, your assemblies are wicked. 14 My soul hateth your new moons, and your solemnities: they are become troublesome to me, I am weary of bearing them. 15 And when you stretch forth your hands, I will turn away my eyes from you: and when you multiply prayer, I will not hear: for your hands are full of blood.


Are the hands not full of blood when the sabbath is used for arrogance and condemnation rather than the gift of rest that comes from God?


The final Sabbath belongs to Mary. She alone prayed and wept while her Son was in the tomb. The others scattered and ran. One denied, the other betrayed. The Resurrection does not begin with the Sabbath.. Scripture states after the Sabbath was past, toward the dawn of the first day of the week…..,

We have historical record the Christians worshipped thereafter on the first day of the week and then everyday. The old covenant is past the New Covenant is here and the glory of Our Lord Jesus Christ shines forth in the world


It is completely false to say Constantine started Sunday worship to take the place of Sun worship
Christians were worshipping on Sunday in the first and second centuries


The sabbath only relates to the creation of the earth. It does not reveal a divine truth or essence, else Isaiah would not proclaimed that by those sabbaths God will not abide

Scripture also says that heaven and earth will pass away, but my word will not pass away. The sabbath refers to earth. If earth passes away, what then of the Sabbath?


Too much emphasis on creation and not the Creator. God is not bound by His creation. Creation, by Him, lives moves and has its being.

Do we worship the creation rather than the Creator?
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Televangelist Benny Hinny and wife, Suzanne, finalize divorce for a second time

More than a year after she filed for divorce from televangelist Benny Hinn, Suzanne Hinn's marriage to the popular faith-healer is now officially over for a second time in 46 years.

Records from the Hillsborough County Court in Florida, first cited by the Trinity Foundation, show the Hinns' marriage ended in an uncontested divorce on Nov. 19.

When Suzanne Hinn filed for divorce in the summer of 2024, the former couple had been living in separate homes more than 60 miles apart.

Matthew Wilson, Suzanne Hinn's attorney who works with the Anton Garcia Law firm in Tampa, declined to comment when contacted by The Christian Post on Wednesday.

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Free Energy & Tartaria

Of course I do, but Tesla would have achieved his dream if only people had of believed in him, but unfortunately there were rich powerful people who stood in his way who's interest was only money. $
JP Morgan had invested the current equivalent of millions of dollars in Tesla’s ideas. He saw no return on his investment so naturally didn't continue investing more. You make it out as if rich people deliberately blocked Tesla’s developments because his ideas would erode their profits in other areas, which is factually baseless like most of your claims.
This just proves that free electricity was possible.
It does nothing of the sort.
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Relative of Trump Press Secretary taken by ICE

Then he can go with her. Tragic story that could have been avoided if she had followed the law. Therefore, the tragedy is entirely her fault and those that enabled her to stay.

I don’t think you read the rest of my post, so I’ll repeat myself. This story isn’t limited to just this family—it represents millions of Hispanic, Cuban, and other Latino Americans. Many Americans with South American ancestry have relatives who are not legal residents of the United States. These mass deportations are affecting them. The poll indicates that 70% of the Hispanic community do not support President Trump’s policy of mass deportation.

Those who are dissatisfied may not heed your suggestion to "then go with his mother." Instead, if they are of legal age, they are likely to vote for another party, which could place the Republican Party at a disadvantage for at least a generation. Millions of Hispanic Americans affected by this policy may never vote for the GOP again.

You seem only interested in mass deportation over the next three years, without concern for whether the GOP wins future national elections.

I, on the other hand, disagree with President Trump on many issue but still care about the Republican Party. I hope that after 2028, the GOP will become moderate, perhaps following the examples of Ronald Reagan or John McCain, and move forward. However, this cannot happen if the majority of Hispanic voters despise the GOP.
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Imitatio Christi - is the following Biblical?

Abundance to what end?

I don’t see any implication of St. Paul having had abundance in terms of personal comfort.

My position, that he was an ascetic, stands.
Agree.
There's no "prosperity gospel" in that passage.
It's also interesting that in the posts above, that passage is chopped at the seemingly rhetorical question in 1 Cor 9:11

11 If we have sown spiritual things for you, is it a great thing if we reap your material things?

Which echos another Pauline passage from Romans on the same topic.
if the Gentiles have been partakers of their spiritual things, their duty is also to minister to them in material things.

It's not a rhetorical question. he addresses it in subsequent portion of that passage.
Nevertheless we have not used this right, but endure all things lest we hinder the gospel of Christ...
.. I have used none of these things, nor have I written these things that it should be done so to me; .. I have been entrusted with a stewardship. What is my reward then? That when I preach the gospel, I may present the gospel of Christ without charge, that I may not abuse my authority in the gospel.

The Apostle had a right to monetary contributions but rejected them. To "present the gospel of Christ without charge.." he asked nothing from the congregants. Which is quite contrary to today's prosperity teachers who consistently "fleece the flock."
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Independents....

I disagree that Independent implies Centrist. We can have opinions without being beholden to party politics, especially on the local level where power dynamics dictate the party more than policy does.

Then, too, these labels can overlap - an Independent can be fiscally conservative and socially liberal, for instance, without being centrist. Or straight up conservative or liberal. I used to be officially Liberal, but that designation was abolished in my state and I got recategorized as an Independent by the BOE.

I haven't taken any loyalty oaths or purity tests, nor will I.
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SLOTKIN STUMPED! Senator Admits She's 'Not Aware' of Any 'Illegal' Orders From Trump to Military [WATCH]

Charitably speaking, a military lawyer's job is to explain to the commander how the commander can get his mission done legally. The lawyer doesn't say, "You can't do it," the lawyer says, "This is how to do it legally."

Without speaking charitably, that job does not necessarily involve invoking any kind of personal moral views. The morality of the matter is encoded within the applicable laws.

For instance, the Law of Armed Conflict (which includes applicable portions of the Geneva Conventions) states that US forces are prohibited from attacking a school or hospital--unless enemy forces are already using that school or hospital as an operational location. In that case, US forces may attack that school or hospital. The Law of Armed Conflict (in concert with the Geneva Conventions) places the moral fault on the forces that first began using those buildings for miltary purposes.

That particular lawyer may personally feel different. He may feel that the US should not under any circumstances attack a school or hospital. But it's not his job to transmit his own personal morality, but the morality encapsulated in the LOAC.



Depends on how they interpret the current Congressional resolutions. The president has presented his interpretation...it's up to Congress to dispute it.

Which Congress hasn't done yet.

What we think about in the peanut gallery is for us to make clear on election day.
Correct. It is the Chaplain's job to advise commanders on morality. The JAG advises on how to accomplish the commanders objective legally.
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National Parks to raise fees by $100 for international tourists to popular U.S. parks

...so what happes if I take a non-resident into one of the parks in my vehicle? Are NPS staff going to check if every occupant of a vehicle is a U.S. resident? Imagine the additional time and entrance backups that will incur...
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Pentagon investigating Sen. Mark Kelly over 'refuse illegal orders' video





This should be interesting.
Investigation won't turn up anything wrong. It's like me telling my son to obey the law and don't do anything illegal, regardless of who wants you to.
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Judge dismisses James Comey and Letitia James cases, finding prosecutor's appointment invalid

Maybe you can help the prosecution find the lie, because they seem to be struggling on that point:

Here the specific text of the question Comey answered in his testimony matters a lot—for a number of reasons. Grassley asked Comey: “have you ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation” (emphasis added).

It is thus not adequate for proof that Comey made a false statement for the government to show that Richman interfaced with reporters on Comey’s behalf. That fact has never been a secret (Richman did much of this work in the open and on a named basis), and Comey has never denied it. In fact, it was Comey who dramatically announced Richman’s role in Senate testimony that the brief later quotes (see pages 10-11).

Rather, to prove that Comey lied, the government has to show (a) that Richman was “at the FBI” at the time; (b) that Comey “authorized” the press contact; (c) that he authorized Richman to do the contact anonymously; and (d) that the contact concerned the Trump or Clinton investigation.


The article then goes on to do what seems to me to be a very good job explaining how none of the things the prosecution tries to point to in their filing as evidence actually show the aforementioned things required to make Comey's statement false. So, where's the lie?

That said, once again, even if the government had the strongest evidence possible that Comey lied, that wouldn't have any effect on the question of whether Halligan's appointment was lawful.
I see Comey’s lie right there in that article and I heard his lie while testifying to the Senate.
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The Mamdani Model: More Socialist Mayors to ComeBeware! The DSA will attempt to repeat Mamdani’s success in other Democrat strongholds.

Also you math isn't mathing very well.

A "23% increase of converts to Islam (20,000 Americans annually)" sure reads as if the raw number of convert rose from about 16000/year to 20000/year in some unspecified time frame.
My mistake. Fresher data shows around 30,000 Americans convert to Islam annually, a number that has shown an increase, particularly in recent years.
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Texas A&M fires lecturer, administrators over classroom gender discussion caught on video

The only thing they should be teaching in college (or any educational class from K thru 12) about gender identity is that males are males and females are females and if you think otherwise, you have a mental disability.
LOL!
What pathetic argument.


I guess I have a mental disability. Which is weird! I'm fairly familiar with the DSM and I've been involved in mental health for quite a while now.

I've never known my imposter syndrome means that I have mental disability. I'd guess 80-90% of doctors are also cookoo.


Said that, for YOUR world to be comfortable, people who you disagree with have to be burdenned with a "mental disability".
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Lesser-known Treasures from the Divine Services and Liturgy of the Orthodox Church

Today is the feast of St. John Chrysostom, who like the other members of the Three Holy Hierarchs, has his own feast in addition to the combined feast in January (by the way, i have often wondered why we do not group St. Athanasius with the Three Holy Hierarchs given his extreme importance; it is because of the three Holy Hierarchs, two of them were alive during the Second Ecumenical Synod and the end of Arian persecution of Christians, and St. Basil despite reposing several years before his best friend St. Gregory the Theologian, was a contemporary of St. Gregory)? Perhaps because they picked up the torch of St. Athanasius after his repose and ensured that Arianism would not prevail?

That question aside, this is a feast with lovely hymns worthy of St. John the Golden-mouthed. Vespers begins with a bang:

In abstinence thou didst emulate well * thy namesake the Baptist, O father, * and didst imitate the great Elijah in purity and fasting. * Wounded by the zeal of both, O Chrysostom, * as a pastor of the Church of Christ ** thou didst speak boldly even against the imperial majesty. (Twice)
The sound of thy dogmas, * passing throughout all the world, as it is written, * hath illumined the world with the divine inspiration of the Word; * and thou hast thrown open to us the door of repentance, * embodying the Gospel of Christ ** in thy care for the poor.
The pure and undefiled light of thy soul * shineth upon the world * with sun-like beams of the dogmas of piety, * O wise father John Chrysostom, * dispelling the darkness ** and illumining the universe with piety.


Like with all hierarchs, we have quotes from the Wisdom of Solomon, the most frequently quoted book among those the Catholics call “deuterocanon”, at Vespers, but we also have a proper Matins Gospel instead of the cycle of 11 Resurrection Gospels read on Sundays. The Matins Gospel and Gospels during the liturgy are part of the common service for Holy Hierarchs from the General Menaion, however, the Old Testament prophecies differ slightly, with two quotes from the Wisdom of Solomon rather than one. Those interested might enjoy the text here: https://st-sergius.org/services/Emenaion/11-13.pdf


From the Canon at Matins, Ode IV is my favorite:

Irmos: Thou, O Lord, art my strength and Thou art my power, * Thou art my God and Thou art my joy, * Thou Who, while never leaving the bosom of Thy Father, * hast visited our poverty. * Therefore with the Prophet Habbakuk I
cry unto Thee, * ‘Glory to Thy power, O Lover of mankind!’
Christ Who, in that He is good, exerciseth forethought for all in His providence, hath given thee to us, O all-blessed John Chrysostom, as another peer of the apostles, a proclaimer of the heavenly liturgy, and a divine expounder of celestial mysteries.

Let us honor the golden John Chrysostom of golden eloquence, who hath rendered all things golden through the golden luster of his teachings, and hath illumined the world with his tongue, which shineth brighter than gold, is full of light and poureth forth divine grace.
Thou wast wholly the habitation of God; thou wast shown to be wholly the instrument of the Spirit, sounding forth a divinely inspired hymn of every virtue and the cause of salvation, and revealing the beauty of the kingdom of heaven, O all- blessed John Chrysostom.
Thou didst proclaim the compassion of God, setting forth examples of repentance, and most excellently instructing us how to avoid evils, O most blessed, most perfect and most honored father Chrysostom, pouring forth excellent teachings on good works.
Theotokion: After God, we have acquired thee as our intercessor; for thou wast the Mother of God, the Creator and Fashioner, Who took upon Himself our guise, saving it from corruption and death, and glorifying it with divine glory, O all- immaculate one.


But Vespers really shines for this feast, for in addition to the stichera I quoted earlier, after the Litya we are treated to these exquisite hymns; this is in contrast to many Orthodox feasts where much of the exciting material is in Matins.

The composition of Anatolius, in Tone I:
O luminary John, mouth of golden luster, ornament of divinely wrought virtues, receptacle of mystic writings: thou wast the most pure and incorrupt treasury of the all-holy Spirit, from whence thou hast brought gladness to the whole Church by thy salvific discourse; wherefore, having found boldness before God, amid the enjoyment of heavenly delight, pray thou for us, O most holy father.

Grace was poured forth through thy lips, O venerable father John Chrysostom, for
which cause God anointed thee a high priest for His people, to shepherd His flock in holiness and righteousness. Wherefore, girded about with the armor of the Mighty One, thou didst cut down the blasphemies of heresy. And now, cease thou never to pray, that peace be granted to the world, and that our souls be saved.

The composition of the Studite, in Tone II:
Praising thee with love, the great high priest and pastor, innocent and venerable, the preacher of repentance, the golden mouth of grace, we pray: grant us thy supplications, O father, unto the salvation of our souls.
The composition of George of Nicomedia, in Tone II: Having been adorned with thy golden words as with golden ornaments, O John Chrysostom, the Church crieth out to thee: “I have drunk my fill of thy flowing golden waters, adorned with thy drink of golden honey mingled with gold; for I am brought from works to vision because of thy teachings, and am united to Christ, the noetic Bridegroom, reigning with Him.” Wherefore, assembling to honor thy memory, we also cry aloud: Cease thou never to pray to the Lord for us, that our souls be saved.

Thou didst receive the most elevated philosophy, O hierarch, and didst transcend the world, living above visible things; and in godly manner didst show thyself to be an undefiled reflection of God. And ever united with the Light, thou didst receive the Light and a most clearly blessed end. Pray thou, O Chrysostom, on behalf of our souls.

In Tone IV: Thou didst manifestly water the earth with words of golden luster, possessed of a body and soul flowing with gold, O all-blessed one; and having by thy discourses on thy dogmas rendered all things golden, O maker of gold, and written books of golden letters, thou didst fly up to the heavens. Wherefore, we cry out to thee: O river and mouth of gold, entreat Christ God, that He save our souls.

Glory ..., the composition of Germanus, in Tone II:
It was fitting for the queen of cities to have John as its hierarch, as a certain royal adornment and a golden trumpet instructing all the ends of the earth with the dogmas of salvation, and moving all to zeal in chanting divinely splendid hymns. To him do we now cry aloud: O thou of golden discourse and golden mouth, entreat Christ God, that He save our souls.

Both now ..., Theotokion, in Tone II:
Thee have we obtained as a rampart, * O most pure Theotokos, * a favorably calm harbor and confirmation. * Wherefore, we who are tempest-tossed in this life beseech thee: ** do thou guide us and save us!

On the Aposticha, these Stichera, in Tone V: Spec. Mel.: “Rejoice ...”:
Rejoice, divinely inspired instrument of the Church, beauteous and of golden luster, O tongue which lovingly describes to us images of repentance; mind of golden sheen, golden-mouthed swallow, dove who with golden wings shineth like gold, chanting hymns amid the verdure of the virtues, golden stream pouring forth waters and serving as the surety of God's love for mankind! Entreat Christ God, that He send down upon our souls great mercy.
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Trump praises NYC Mayor-elect Mamdani after White House meeting

I'm not referring to Trump as I already mentioned. I'm referring to Mamdani.
Please ask who a person is referring to next time instead of assuming it's Trump.
From the description I thought you were clearly describing Mt Trump who fits the description very well.
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