BobRyan said:

Rom 11:
17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” 20 Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear; 21 for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either. 22 Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off. 23 And they also, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these who are the natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree?

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HI. Bob. , just asking , are saying that we the BODY. of CHRIST is or WAS and OLIVE TREE ?

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Paidiske said:

And, on the other side, if you had a really bad morning, you ought to console yourself.

No? Just me?

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That's what the ice cream stands are for. Although they'll be closing for the winter soon. One already did.

People make the mistake of trying to separate them selves from history. They think that because these events happened so long ago, that they have no bearing on what's happening today. Had not the depression of 1929 happened, we would not have the safeguards in place today to prevent the devastation of an economic crash. Our recent economic crash called Black Tuesday was nothing compared to the crash of 1929. Had not Jesus died on the cross some 2000yrs. ago, there would be no such thing as faith in God and repentance from sin. People would still be getting stoned to death on the spot for transgressing God's law. So, what happened in the past has an effect on us today and the one thing that happened in the past that has a profound effect on us is man's iniquity. In the days of Adam, his iniquity brought death to himself and all mankind. "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" (Romans 5:12)

In the days of Noah, God destroyed man from the face of the earth because of his wickedness (iniquity). "And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And the LORD said,” I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them." But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. And God looked upon the earth, and behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth." (Genesis 6:5-13). As a result of Noah's righteousness, only he, his wife, his three sons and their wives were saved from destruction.

Now, in these the last days, God has said that because of the overspreading of iniquity; (iniquity is one of the signs and factors of the end of the world). “And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to show him the buildings of the temple. And Jesus said unto them, “See ye not all these things? Verily I say unto you, there shall not be left here one stone upon another that shall not be thrown down.” And as he sat upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately saying,” Tell us, when shall these things be and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?”; “Because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold, but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the entire world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come." (St. Matthew 24:1-3 & 12-14)

So lets take an in depth look at iniquity, its origin and effect on man throughout history. in·iq·ui·ty (î-nîk¹wî-tê) noun 1. Gross immorality or injustice; wickedness. 2. A grossly immoral act; a sin.

Jesus was speaking to some of the Jews that believed in him and he told them that, "If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. They in turn told Jesus that they were Abraham's seed and that they were in bondage to no man. (Even though at this time the Romans were in control of Jerusalem and Herod the Idumeaen was the ruler). How say to us that we shall be made free?

Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you; whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. And the servant abideth not in the house forever: but the Son abideth ever. If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, "We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God." Jesus said unto them, “If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? Even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” (St. John 8:31-32, 34-44)

Before Satan became known as the Devil, his name was Lucifer, which means light bearer. He was the Angel in charge of bringing God's truth. The prophet Isaiah asked this question of Lucifer, "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations?" (Isaiah 14:12)

Lets take a look and see how bold the Devil is and what he controls , since the days of Jesus. Lets go into Luke 4: 3 And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread. 4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God. 5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. 7 If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine. 8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

So we see that satan uses his power with the kingdom of the earth. Now think about what we just read, the Devil says, "all the Kingdom are his", and that he is worshiped by those to whom he gives power to. Now, if he asked the Lord to worship him, while he was in the flesh; what about the rest of us? Let's go into Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Think about it, how does he deceive the whole world? Which means me, you and everyone else has been deceive at some point for the scriptures did not say he deceive some of the world, or part of the world, but the whole world. Let's take a look and see how Satan used his power with these kingdoms. Let's go into Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. This places are the church, brothers and sisters. Let's go into Luke 22:52 Then Jesus said unto the chief priests, and captains of the temple, and the elders, which were come to him, Be ye come out, as against a thief, with swords and staves? 53 When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.

Did you notice it was the church people who came to arrest Jesus? They did the bidding for there "father" the Devil.

Hank77 said:

I think you'll find that there are 9 more ounces of meat in the nuggets than in the fresh chicken. That will feed at least one more child, if not two, depending on their age.

Doing the math, I found that the package of nuggets was $3.48 less than the same 29 ozs of fresh chicken. That's a huge difference in most families, and for a single parent, it's the difference between a gallon of milk or a loaf of bread.

Maybe my math is wrong....

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I'm a vegan now, but that's pretty much how I remember it working out.

I try to eat healthier but I'm under no illusions how hard that is for most people who aren't born with a silver spoon in their mouth, or how much food gets class coded.

Pray Israelis find Spiritual,Mental,Emotional,& Physical healing in Jesus Christ's Gospel due to all the 7-Oct-2023 injuries & trauma:

Noryang: Deadly Sea. A 2023 Korean film about the December 16, 1598 Battle of Noryang. It was the last battle of the Imjin War (the Japanese invasion of Joseon (Korea) by Toyotomi Hideyoshi). The Joseon navy was led by Admiral Yi Sun Sin who was killed toward the end of the battle (similar to Horatio Nelson's death at Trafalgar). The Ming dynasty also sent naval forces to assist Joseon. With the defeat of their Navy and with the death of Yoyotomi Hideyoshi Tokugawa Ieyasu could take control of Japan and end the invasion of the Korean peninsula (Imjin War). It would also give Tokugawa Ieyasu the path to becoming Shogun after the Battle of Sekigahara on October 21, 1600.

Admiral Yi Sun Sin used a ship referred to as a "Turtle Ship" or geobukseon. The ship was heavily armored including an armored roof. the ship used spikes, arquebus shooters and cannons as its weapons. It was a strong ship used in the coastal waters of the Korean peninsula. Supporting ships with open decks often were armed with the hwacha, which was essentially a early and very crude version of a multiple-launch rocket system.

Michie said:

Stewardship Prayer

Dear Heavenly Father,
My parish is composed of people like me;
I help make it what it is.

It will be friendly, if I am.
Its pews will be filled, if I help fill them.
It will do great work, if I work.
It will make generous gifts to many causes,
if I am a generous giver.
It will bring other people into its worship and fellowship,
if I invite and bring them.

It will be a parish of loyalty and love,
of fearlessness and faith,
and a parish with a noble spirit,
if I, who make it what it is, am filled with these same things.

Therefore, with Your help, O God,
I shall dedicate myself to the task of being all things
that I want my parish to be.

Amen.

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That's really nice, you seem to have a good prayer arsenal.

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I’m sure that the channel you linked to was a lower key infowars knock off.

FreeinChrist said:

at least 10 others have been re-arrested.

From

At least 10 pardoned insurrectionists face other criminal charges - CREW | Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington

At least 10 January 6th insurrectionists pardoned by President Trump have already been rearrested, charged or sentenced for other crimes.

www.citizensforethics.org

Andrew Taake - arrested for solicting a minor

Edward Kelley - arrested and convicted for plotting the murder of FBI agents who investigated his J6 offences

Emily Hernandez - serving 10 years for a 2022 drunken driving incident that killed one.

Daniel Ball - Arrested for gun possession. He had a history of domestic violence.

David Daniel - possession of child porn

Shane Jason Woods - convicted of reckless homicide and drunk driving

Theodore Middendorf - convicted of sexually molestation of a 7 year old in 2024

Taylor Taranto - illegal gun possession and threatening to blow up a building

There are two more.

Now this fellow.

Trump should have been more judicious in who he pardons.

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Three of ten of them, nailed as pedophiles. What is going on with those guys?

CoreyD said:

Well you just struck the cord that inspired the OP - the cord that asserts the truth cannot objectively be presented by any of us, but "it's only another opinion".
The OP is created for the purpose of laying that satanic lie to rest.
The question is not philosophical at all.

To make such a claim is to diminish or invalidate Jesus' words at John 4:23, 24; John 17:17... as well as a few other texts, including 1 Timothy 2::3, 4.

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Pressing the question is not the same as making a claim.

CoreyD said:

It's simple.
You tell the person asking, Christians don't know what truth is.
Now only would you give them mixed emotions - whether to be puzzled or laugh, but you would have added to the confusion and perhaps the meaninglessness of Christianity today.

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A dash of humility goes a long way.

CoreyD said:

Do Jesus' followers know the truth?

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The question isn't do, but how?

CoreyD said:

Can Jesus' followers know the appropriate method for making the identification?

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You tell me

CoreyD said:

Can Jesus' followers answer the question?

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It takes engaging with it to make a determination

CoreyD said:

From your response and another poster, it seems the OP isn't being read in full, or the comments aren't being connected, or linked to each other. Or something...

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the thread had been ongoing for a while when I jumped in, so my response wasn't directly to the OP

CoreyD said:

Acts 17:1-4, 10-12
It was Paul's custom, to reason with people from the Scriptures; explaining and proving by giving evidence of what was true. Acts 17:2, 3
The result:
Some of the Jews were persuaded and joined Paul and Silas, along with a large number of God-fearing Greeks and quite a few leading women. Acts 17:4

Those in Berea examined the Scriptures every day to see if these teachings were true.
The scriptures were what revealed truth to them. They could compare what Paul said, with the scriptures to see if what Paul said was in line with truth.
The scriptures were like a measuring rule.

Did the Bereans find the truth?
Was it clearly outlined in the OP what method led to their finding it?
It wasn't John 17:17, which says what the truth is.

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This is exactly the circularity I was referring to

GloryToHisName said:

Thank you in advance for your grammar-based analysis. I look forward to your insights.

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Untrue, the 70th week has yet to come upon Israel God rent or left the temple when Jesus died. Israel MUST ACCEPT the Messiah before the 70th week can end.

A Devil's Advocate said:

Have you ever raised someone from the dead? Have you ever walked on water, given the blind sight or cured someone of their disease? Have you ever raised yourself from the dead? In all honesty, do believe you ever will?

Do you honestly think living in the twentieth century, within a culture where your understanding of language, the present world around you, and God Himself, that you are interpreting scripture the same way the audience of the day, who scripture was written directly too, would have understood it?

I'm not saying it wasn't written for us, but it certainly wasn't written to us. The very fact that we can have so many different and conflicting understandings is proof of this reality.

If you understand the very foundation upon which the Gospel is built, but certain scriptures later on appear to contradict this, isn't it more likely we have miss understood those pieces of scripture?

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I haven't, but GOD did through me on some of those things.

Christianity is a Spiritual walk of faith, of which Jesus is our only true example to follow, just like Paul did.

I'm not here to argue and debate. Enjoy what you have so far been able to achieve with GOD. Laters.

We learned some witnessing techniques to Common objections from people. False religions claim the Bible is corrupt. But it is still powerful enough to be effective, to change, to bless. Then pastor preached a little directly from 1Tom 4. It is well with us so we want to spread it around and get some people saved before the church is taken to the clouds and bless some and give them eteternal security for living now.

JimR-OCDS said:

Not faith but often an ego-identity attachment, or superstition.

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Try not to judge others.

boughtwithaprice said:

With all due respect, I love Mexican culture. I don’t like being singled out because of my race, but if my race was associated with increased criminal activity, that only means that I have to
try harder to prove myself, which I am all too happy to do

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But this kind of mind set leads to all kinds of absurd ideas. Think about it for a minute. Whites commit 69% of all rapes and 74% of all sexual crimes. Should the police stop all whites for suspicion of rape or sexual crimes? Blacks commit 52% of all robberies should all blacks be stopped for suspicion of robbery?


Do you see the absurdity? There is no difference in the look of an illegal alien or a legal alien or citizen walking or driving down the street. There is no sign hanging from their necks identifying them either way. In general, a brown Mexican born here looks no different than one that did not.

Look, I have no problems deporting every illegal alien criminal living in the US which is what Trump ran his campaign under. But the bedrock of our justice system is probable cause and due process. Everyone in the US that is accused of a crime needs to go through the judicial system not just arbitrarily adjudicated guilty. What Trump is doing parallels to what we did to the Japanese during WWII. If our judicial system is not for everyone then the system fails everyone. Who knows another president might decide that Christians need to go and Trump is setting precedence.

boughtwithaprice said:

There are many criminals crossing the southern border, not just Latinos. The border must be secure. Bexar county may have voted for Harris, but it was due to propaganda.

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Agreed.

boughtwithaprice said:

What does the democrat party do? Play identity politics. We are sick of it and are not falling for it anymore: I do not have Latino American or that idiotic Latinx, nor African American friends. I have American friends, and we all love our country
The same is true in Our Catholics Churches here in San Antonio. Scripture says there is no
Jew nor Greek, but here we say there in no Anglo nor Latino, black nor white, we are one in the body of Christ Jesus. We respect the laws of the nation in which we reside. We do not claim exemption from law due to race.

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I did not vote for Harris because of where the Democratic Party its been heading for quite some time. Trump, at the time, was the lesser of two evils but an evil nonetheless. My vote was against Harris but not for Trump. Both parties are operating at their respective extremes and that needs to change.

boughtwithaprice said:

I’ll grant you that there are right wing crazies and there are left wing crazies. I admire that you are centrist. I am centrist in that Christ died for all people, not identity politics because it is evil in that it attempts to divide and demonize.
That is the very thing Christ preached against. He said love your enemies and pray for those that persecute you, not practice identity politics
Division plays into Satan’s hands. Is Christ divided? God forbid!!

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He also said to love the your neighbor and not oppress the stranger. I don’t think that we should demonize a whole race merely because some have crossed the border illegally.

““You shall not oppress a stranger nor torment him, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.”
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭22‬:‭21‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Michie said:

Here’s a roundup of the latest Catholic education news in the United States:

Notre Dame drops ‘acceptance and support for Catholic mission’ from staff values​

The University of Notre Dame has dropped acceptance and support for its Catholic mission from the list of staff values it has held for the past 20 years.

The university’s leadership announced new updates to its staff values at its Fall 2025 Staff Town Halls on Oct. 29 and 30, according to a press release. Human Resources President Heather Christophersen said the new values were “an expression of how we seek to advance Notre Dame’s mission as a global, Catholic research university.”

Continued below.

Notre Dame drops ‘support for Catholic mission’ from staff values

Here’s a roundup of the latest Catholic education news in the United States.

www.catholicnewsagency.com

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The Catholic colleges listed on he 'Newman Guide' wouldn't do that.

Jipsah said:

It meant what it said to those to whom it was written. Remember them ? Almost nobody seems to remember the folks to whom the Revelation was explicitly written.

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Imagine if someone ran around saying that 1 Corinthians had to be written to their particular church in the 21st century for it to MEAN anything?

That's what these people are doing with Revelation