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Christian singers are responding to Forrest Frank’s vow to no longer accept awards for his music, with some suggesting his stance is hypocritical because he still accepts monetary compensation for his work.

On Monday, Christian musician Forrest Frank announced in a social media postthat he would no longer accept awards for his music. “As Christians, it’s hard to know where the line is in the sand between being in the world and not of the world,” he said.

Answering his own question, pondering, “Where’s the line in the sand drawn,” Frank concluded, “I’m convicted, personally, that a line that I can draw is that I will not receive a trophy for something that is from Jesus and for Jesus.”

“I was wrestling with this last year. I even said that on stage at the Dove Awards. I said ‘I’m still struggling with the concept of receiving this award, but all glory to Jesus, every name will fade away, including mine, except for one name,’” Frank recalled.

After informing his fans that he would no longer attend the Doves and the Grammys, Frank expressed hope that he could “be an example to the youth that the trophy is our salvation” and that “the trophy is that my name is listed in the Book of Life and I get to have eternal life.”

Jelly Roll, a secular musician who has performed numerous Christian songs, was one of several artists to weigh in on what Frank has referred to as his new “stance of nonparticipation.”

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Dan Perez said:

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You missed it big time, just read Acts 10:45.

Aristarkos

a somewhat relavant post here
Login to view embedded media assuming this is true, and i tend to think it is, it helps explain why i spiritually knew the christian red pill communities would die out, over a decade ago. God wasn't in it.

keep in mind that there are growing pains and backlash as a result of anyone, or anything, losing power. we may be seeing this now.

AvilaSurfer said:

Hamas is 100% at fault here. And they’ve brainwashed their people they’re “governing” to hate Israel and anyone who lives there. It’s disgusting. Hamas needs to be wiped out.

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I have no sympathy for the actual terrorists within Hamas - but I wonder how many of the original terrorists are even still alive?

But the Palestinian people? That's a different story.

Imagine your city was walled off by some hostile power for decades. The power and water and trade are all intermittent and unreliable.

Imagine you were told you cannot visit your cousin who lives maybe just 50 km away in the West Bank. You are a 'security risk' - just because of where you are born. Then you hear your cousin was illegally kicked out of his house. He's so depressed - some Israeli settlers just came and took it. They had soldiers with them. They did not care that your cousin has a sick wife and 2 kids. He's living with friends - but not sure where he's going to go.

Why didn't he protest more? Oh - that's because you are both aware that your OTHER cousin was SHOT DEAD when he did so. No one cared. No one investigated. It's a homicide - maybe even a war crime given Israel should not even BE in the West Bank under international law. It's illegal imperialism - illegal occupation and settler expansion.

But who cares? Israel certainly doesn't - they have the backing of the USA. They have also hypnotised about 4 times as many American Evangelicals as there are Jews on the planet into being so called "Christian Zionists" who use bad end-times theology to justify favouring Israel - no matter what!

It's been like this for decades - and only getting worse.

THEN you hear the WORST news. You understand the frustration - but not the barbarity of the acts. Hamas - your countrymen - have attacked young Israeli's in the worst way possible! It's a full scale terrorist attack unlike anything Hamas has done before.

Your heart races in your chest - as you fear for your own kids. If life was bad before, what's it going to be like if Israel responds in it's usual disproportionate way? They don't practice "Just War" theory. They use Israeli bombs to 'precision target' some 'perceived' enemy lair - but the bomb itself crushes lungs in a 700 meter diameter kill zone.

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Let's get real. Hamas killed 1,219 people and took 251 hostages. If we include ALL the hostages as horrific casualties of war - even the living ones because they were illegally kidnapped for 2 years - we're talking about 1470 casualties.

How are the Palestinians doing? Over 65,000 Palestinians dead! In addition to the numbers, it's the spread. At one point it was about a classroom of children a day. So much for 'just war'.

But the number itself? Is that Just War? Is that a proportional response? That's over 44.2 TIMES the original terrorist attack.

bèlla said:

I think you’ll have better luck joining a bible study and fellowshipping with likeminded believers. Most of the people your age are married with children or have other responsibilities that require their attention. The one-on-one relationship you’re seeking for study and prayer is commonly found with older persons. They have the time to pour into you in the manner you’d like.

I had a prayer partner in the past who was older and we attended the same church. We went to lunch every week (often more than once) and were part of a women’s bible study. While I enjoyed her company her need was great and she wanted me in everything and I started to pull away. She was smothering me because of her loneliness. There’s a lot of people like her in the church who’d love the companionship you want. The children are gone and they’re alone.

I was younger at the time and that was my first experience with that form of connecting and I wouldn’t do it again. But that doesn’t mean there’s something wrong with you for desiring the bond. Our need quotients differ and honoring yours is best. Talk with the older people in your community and see how it goes. There’s people your age seeking the same on the site as well. Maybe you can support one another in the interim.

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thanks Bella for the response. My church has many older people. I should pray about approaching one of them and see if someone is put on my mind or will come up to me. Thanks!

RandyPNW said:

I think that's great. Yes, the Law contained all the elements later said to contain moral, ceremonial, and judicial aspects. But they were all a single agreement. Failing to obey Sabbath Law was the same as failure to respect God's name and not use it "vainly." Our failure under ceremonial law was equal to our failure under moral law.

We not only fail to carry out God's instructions at times, but we also fail to abide by morals perfectly. We all are guilty of a kind of murder when we get angry with one another. We are all guilty of lust when we look too long in the wrong direction.

The covenant of Law condemned the whole human race, including Israel who was under that covenant, because all sinners, by their record, are prevented from access to the Tree of Life. It was a single covenant that required holiness of Israel, but at the same time it showed that nobody qualifies for Eternal Life apart from Christ and his mercy.

The Law accomplished an important matter in establishing what had been known since the garden, that the human record under the effects of sin disqualified all sinners from the Tree of Life. And so, moral, ceremonial, and judicial law all condemned Israel as sinners, disqualified from Salvation, if they failed to proceed to God's cure, which is obedience to Christ.

It is quite true that God's Law remains in effect as a moral standard for all mankind. We remain subject to God's word and to God's Law. But we will not find Eternal Life by obeying God's word under the Law of Moses, neither moral, ceremonial, nor judicial. Not only would such an "obedience" disqualify us from Life, but it would show contempt for Christ who fulfilled the very Mercy that the Law of Moses had been directing Israel towards.

We follow moral law, though not under the Law of Moses but now under obedience to Christ, who combines law and mercy. If we live by his Spirit we will not only show his righteousness, but in showing his righteousness we will also qualify for his mercy.

It is not important to show that obedience to God is similar under the covenant of Law and the covenant of Christ. The important thing is to direct our morality to the same God who presided over both covenants and who now asks nothing more than we obey Christ, His Son. In doing so, not only is our record of failure eliminated, but we have mercy through the one whose record qualified him to forgive us.

Under the Law our moral record condemned us. By obedience to Christ we rely on Christ's mercy and the grace of his gift of righteousness. We continue to live moral lives and to live by the law of God's word. But we know that our record would disqualify us if we did not turn to Christ for mercy.

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Amen and further more God's law is a delight and blessing to those saved by grace. Blessed is the man who's sins God does not count against him. Just because one is saved by grace and is perfected forever by Christ's one sacrifice does not mean that they are going to lay the reigns on the neck of lust. Absolutely not. We seek to be holy even as He is holy because we love Him. We adore HIm. And desire to be like Him. Obeying God is not a drag or a sacrifice because we recieve blessing upon blessing by doing so.

We delight to do your will O' God...

Colo Millz said:

A little hard for them to do that now they have no nuclear weapons.

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They also have the missiles to deliver them to Israel. They are merely waiting for the Appointed time.

Psalms 94:1-7 God of vengeance1, show Yourself. Repay the arrogant as they deserve. Rise now and judge the earth, give to the godless their just penalty. Lord: How long will the wicked exult? Evildoers oppress Your people, Your chosen nation. They say: The Lord does not see, the God of Jacob pays no heed.

Isaiah 42:14-15 Long have I restrained Myself2, I kept silence and held Myself in check, now I am like a woman in labour, as in the throes of childbirth. I shall lay waste to the land, dry up rivers and lakes will become deserts.

Psalms 102:13 & 19-20 You will arise and have mercy on Zion, for it is time to pity her. The appointed time has come3. The Lord looks down from His sanctuary on high and surveys the earth. He hears the supplications of the exiles and will set free those threatened with annihilation.

Psalms 78:65-66 Then the Lord awoke as a sleeper awakes4, as a warrior suddenly disturbed. He struck His foes and defeated them, to their eternal shame.

Psalms 2:4-9 The Lord, enthroned in the heavens5 laughs and derides His enemies. Angrily He rebukes them and in His wrath, He devastates the nations, shattering them like a clay pot.

Psalms 11:4-6 The Lord is on His throne in heaven5. He observes all people and judges them. He hates those who love violence. He will rain fiery coals and brimstone upon the wicked peoples6; scorching winds will be their sentence.

Psalms 50:1-5 Our God is coming and will not keep silent. A consuming fire runs ahead of Him and around Him a great storm rages6.

Psalms 18:13 The Lord thundered from the heavens5, He raised His voice amid hail and glowing coals. He hurled forth arrows of lightning6 and sped them to their mark.

Joel 1:15, 2 Peter 3:10, Malachi 4:1, Zeph. 3:8, Isaiah 13:9, Isaiah 66:15-16, Jer. 9:22 The Day is near, the Day of the Lord it comes, as a mighty destruction from the Almighty. On that unexpected Day, the sky will be dispersed with a great noise and the earth will be enveloped in flames7. All peoples will be brought to judgement and many will die.
Ref; REB. Some verses abridged.

1/ We know God as a God of love, but also of justice and this means that He must exact a just punishment onto those who deny Him and ignore His commands. Nahum 1:2, Isaiah 1:24, Romans 1:18

2/ The Lord has kept out of world affairs and allowed people to follow their own desires. This is our free will choice. Isaiah 64:7, Eccl. 8:5-7, Psalms 89:46, 1 Thess. 4:6-8

3/ God has a plan and all that is prophesied will come to pass at its appointed time. Isaiah 46:10, Psalms 33:10-11

4/ The Lord springs into action! Haggai 2:21-22, Amos 5:9, Joel 2:11, Psalms 144:5-6

5/ This event is NOT the Return, the Lord stays in His sanctuary. Psalms 7:6-16, Isa 60:1-3

6/ The great Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, prophesied over 100 times throughout the Bible, the Day of punishment on the nations, triggered by an attempted attack by Iran, sending nuke missiles onto the State of Israel. Zechariah 5:1-10, Psalms 83:1-18, Habakkuk 3:12, Isaiah 34:1-5

7/ The only logical explanation for a worldwide fire, is a Coronal Mass Ejection, an explosion of the suns surface. This is confirmed by Isaiah 30:26 and Malachi 4:1.

A CME of unprecedented magnitude will strike the earth, the mass of superheated hydrogen plasma will fulfil all the prophesied effects: in the sky, heat, smoke, electrical, volcanic, earthquakes and the loss of our modern infrastructure. Deut. 32:22 & 34-35, Ezekiel 21:10, Revelation 6:12-17

Tellyontellyon said:

Matthew 18:10 KJV
Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.

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What does this mean? Do the little children have angel in heaven that is connected to them? Do we all have an angel in heaven that corresponds to us?
Do some of our angels do something other than behold God? Is my angel less innocent/good than a child's angel?

Or does it mean that when a child dies it becomes a particularly devoted angel?
Do we become angels if we go to heaven?

Or is the soul actually an angel and we are in heaven at the same time as being on earth without knowing it? We are our own angel, so to speak?

Or... what does it mean?

Cheers

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You may have heard of the idea of a "guardian angel". The popular conception of this is not something I think any Christian should endorse; but historically Christianity does acknowledge (on the basis of biblical texts such as this one) that there are angels who watch over us. So, the simplest explanation here is that Jesus is talking about the angels who have been tasked by God to watch over the little ones.

Does that mean I have a specific angel assigned to watch over me? I mean, maybe? That has been a belief many Christians have had.

But it is just as possible that out of God's love and care for His creation He tasks angels with watching over us--and it doesn't have to be any more specific than that.

As for the other stuff:

Humans don't become angels. Angels and humans are categorically different kinds of creatures--humans are humans and will always be human; angels are angels and will always be angels. So no, people don't become angels, the soul isn't an angel--the soul is simply an aspect of my humanity. The best way to think of the human soul is that the soul speaks of the rational, relational, emotional, and spiritual dimensions of being human. All creatures have a soul--they have the breath of life (that's what the most basic meaning of "soul" is, "breath"); the human soul is unique and distinct in that it is a rational soul; we feel we think we have a rich and complex mind, and most important we can have a relationship with God as moral creatures that were made to reflect God's goodness and love into the world. You aren't a soul with a body; and you aren't a body with a soul--you're a human being, body-and-soul.

Angels are angels.

-CryptoLutheran

Fang Face

Desk trauma said:

Holy omission Batman! Yes they’re not going to get power from that coal burner in Delta anymore, but, the brand new natural gas/hydrogen turbine that’s replacing it was built specifically to send power to California.

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'Tis true, California is not abandoning fossil fuels.

A New Dawn said:

John 6. Check that out.

You are creating a dichotomy where none exists. Of course election is from God’s perspective. He has not given us a list of those HE elected for salvation, but that doesn’t mean that God hasn’t selected people of HIS choice for salvation. And to add to this, God selected (for his own reasons) that hearing the gospel preached is how HE chooses to work in those HE chose. So of course we must be ready to share our hope of salvation with others.

Do you have a problem with God choosing Israel as his people? If not, I am confused as to why you would be so upset that God is continuing to choose whom He will for salvation.

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Excellent perspective. I like your analogy with Israel having been elected by God to be His people, leaving the Gentiles outside the covenant.

Uzziel

o_mlly said:

More word games?

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I thought that was your thing.

o_mlly said:

No, your and their idea of morality changed.

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Who else's ideas would there be but us apes?

o_mlly said:

The morality of direct abortions has not.

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So you claim.

o_mlly said:

Moral truths are outside the mutable thinking of human minds.

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This is precisely the thing I deny. Can you prove this claim or is this just an assertion?

o_mlly said:

So, Who can tell us the eternal moral truths?

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No one. That is the point.

Obedient Obadiah

Harriet Harris

Clare73 said:

You'll have to demonstrate, rather than just assert, how your post #38 or #39 refutes my idea in my post (#37) #40, following:

That is precisely what Ro 5:17 states, ". . .by the trespass of one man, death reigned through that one man,"

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Physical death reigned in mankind through the one, because he was cast out of Eden, being denied access to the Tree of Life. Spiritual death reigned in mankind through the one, because we inherited the sin nature. There is nothing in here but presumption to say that Adam's sin was imputed.

Clare73 said:

as does Ro 5:18-19 - "the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men. . .through the disobedience of one man, the many were made sinners."

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Condemnation came to all men because the sin nature was transmitted to Adam's progeny. The context of this has to do with people who have sinned, not infants who haven't sinned. Again, there is nothing in here but presumption to say that Adam's sin was imputed.

Clare73 said:

That is precisely what Ro 5:12-14 demonstrates. . .in
that they all died between Adam and Moses when there was no law to transgress/sin against to cause their death (Ro 5:14),
therefore, their death was caused by the imputation of Adam's sin (Ro 5:17), and
which was the pattern (Ro 5:14) for the imputation of Christ's righteousness (Ro 5:18-19).

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In regard to Rom. 5:12-14, here was my response that refutes your idea:
You are interpreting Paul's statement as "there was no law between Adam and Moses, therefore no transgression." But Paul has to mean something different than that, because there was certainly law, albeit not the law of Moses. Examples: Cain most certainly knew he had violated an unwritten (or unspoken) law "you shall not commit murder." If he thought he was innocent, he would not have lied to God saying he didn't know where Abel was. But he did lie, because he wanted to escape the impending judgment in violation of that moral principle. This is how we know there was law prior to Moses. Another example is when God said to Noah if a man sheds another man's blood (murder), his blood shall be shed (capital punishment). This is most certainly law before Moses. A 3rd example is God rained fire and brimstone on Sodom and Gomorrah because their sins stunk to high heaven. In this we can see there was most certainly law and transgression prior to Moses. Therefore Paul had to mean something different than what you claim.

Bro.T said:

Paul says in Romans 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. In other words if there is no law there is no sin. Sin is not imputed or no blame can be accredited to any person when there is no law. Now, let’s see what Sin is according to the Bible in I John 3:4 it states, "whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." So if the law was nailed to the cross that would mean its okay to use the Lords name in vain, put other gods before HIM, make graven images and bow before them, pollute the Sabbath day, steal, commit murder, commit adultery and bear false witness. If all these things are okay to commit, then we might as well throw the Bible out the back door and do what ever feels good to us.
We will see that Paul was in fact a law keeper and how he preached out of the Law and the Prophets.

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The law of God was never nailed to the cross. It is immutable and eternal (Matthew 5:17–18; Psalm 119:89). Yet we are no longer under its curse, for we are under Christ, who fulfilled the law in us (Romans 8:3–4; Galatians 3:13). God has given us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 15:57).


Are you suggesting that these are things you would like to do but refrain from doing in order to earn salvation, at least in part? No truly saved person desires to do such things (1 John 3:9). We walk after the Spirit (Romans 8:1, 4–5; Galatians 5:16). If salvation depended on our refraining from these behaviors, then we would live under the threat of eternal damnation, and fear would be our motivation (Romans 4:15). But because the law has been fulfilled in us by Christ, our motivation is love alone (2 Corinthians 5:14; 1 John 4:18–19).

Bro.T said:

Now let's begin by taking a look at both of the laws and how they worked together. We will see there were two laws given to Moses, they were the commandments and the sacrificial law. Watch how they worked together.

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I do not believe you have established that there were two laws from the biblical text. I don't think that you can because it is not there in the bible.

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And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a soul shall sin through ignorance against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which ought not to be done, and shall do against any of them: (Leviticus 4:1-2) The law in the scriptures above is the commandments.

Notice something else very important in these two scriptures. It states, "if a soul shall sin through ignorance." Notice that the scripture did not says on purpose. Why? There is no sacrifice for a sin that is committed willfully. Let's find out what was to be done if a person committed a sin against the Lord unintentionally. Let's skip down to the 27th verse and take a look at the second law (which is the sacrificial law).

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Almost all sins are committed willfully, and if one takes Christ’s Sermon on the Mount to heart, we realize that we sin far more than we are willing to admit (Matthew 5:21–22, 27–28, 48; Romans 3:23). That is why John reminded his flock, “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness” (1 John 1:9). Yet we cannot confess what we are unaware of.

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And if any one of the common people sin through ignorance, while he doeth somewhat against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which ought not to be done, and be guilty; Or if his sin, which he hath sinned, come to his knowledge: then he shall bring his offering, a kid of the goats, a female without blemish, for his sin which he hath sinned. And he shall lay his hand upon the head of the sin offering, and slay the sin offering in the place of the burnt offering. And the priest shall take of the blood thereof with his finger, and put it upon the horns of the altar of burnt offering, and shall pour out all the blood thereof at the bottom of the altar. (Leviticus 4:27-30)

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You do relize that we are under the new covenent. The New Covenant is God’s gracious promise, established through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, by which He forgives sins and writes His law on the hearts of His people. Unlike the Old Covenant, which was based on the law written on stone and mediated through continual sacrifices, the New Covenant is grounded in Christ’s once-for-all sacrifice and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Jeremiah foretold this covenant: “I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people… for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more” (Jeremiah 31:31–34; cf. Ezekiel 36:26–27).


Jesus declared that His blood was the seal of this New Covenant: “This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood” (Luke 22:20; cf. 1 Corinthians 11:25). Hebrews explains that Christ is the mediator of this covenant, which makes the old one obsolete (Hebrews 8:6–13; 9:15). In the New Covenant, God’s people are no longer under the condemnation of the law (Romans 8:1–4), but are empowered by the Spirit to walk in obedience, motivated not by fear but by love (2 Corinthians 3:6; Romans 5:5).

Bro.T said:

When the common people sinned through ignorance and it came to their knowledge, what did they have to do? They brought an offering, a kid of the goats, a female without blemish, for their sin which they had committed, then the priest would offer the animal to the Lord. Think about this for a moment. If an animal was killed for a person that committed sin, what will happen to us today if we a trespass against the Lord?

Now we see how the sacrificial law was used when a person broke a commandment unintentionally.

Let's go into Paul's writings and take another look at both of these laws. We will go into the Book of Galatians chapter 3. This is one of the chapters that the majority of Christian preachers use to do away with the Lord's commandments. Now, let's read carefully!

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You will have to take this up with preachers who preach that, just as I take up the issues of salvation by works with thise who teach that.

Bro.T said:

Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. (Galatians 3:19)

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And the seed has come.
1. “It was added because of transgressions”

Paul is explaining that the law was not the original plan for humanity’s relationship with God. The promise of God to Abraham (Genesis 12:1–3; 15:1–6) came before the law and was based on faith, not works. The law came later “because of transgressions,” meaning it was added to reveal sin, regulate behavior, and make people aware of their need for God’s grace (Romans 3:20; 5:20). It functions as a custodian, showing what is right and wrong until the Messiah comes.

2. “Until the offspring should come”

The law was temporary, in place only “until the offspring [Greek: sperma] should come.” Paul identifies this “offspring” as Christ (Galatians 3:16), the one in whom the promises to Abraham are fulfilled. Once Christ came, faith in Him—not adherence to the law—became the means of receiving the promised blessing of righteousness.

3. “Put in place through angels by a mediator”

This phrase likely reflects Jewish understanding of Sinai, where the law was given with heavenly involvement (Acts 7:53; Exodus 19:16–25) and mediated by Moses. Paul emphasizes that the law was given through a mediator, whereas the promise to Abraham was directly from God. This contrast highlights the superiority of the promise over the law and sets up his argument that justification comes by faith, not by works of the law.

Bro.T said:

Take heed to what Paul's says above, "Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions." What is transgression? Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. (I John 3:4) Transgression is braking of the commandments. What law was added because of the braking of the law? The sacrificial law! Paul is simply asking these Gentiles, "why perform the sacrificial law? It was added because of sin until the seed should come. Who is the seed?

Let's back up in this chapter and find out.

Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, and to seeds, as of many; but as of one, and to thy seed, which is Christ. (Galatians 3:16) Who is the SEED? CHRIST! So, this law was added (which is the sacrificial law) until Christ came. What was the sacrificial law used for until Christ came? Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. (Galatians 3:24)

The sacrificial law was our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ. Before we continue, we must clear one thing up. Are we justified by faith alone? Let's see. Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. (Romans 3:31) What law is established? Certainly not the sacrificial law, we have seen above that it was added because of transgression until the Seed came (which was Christ). The Royal law to be established forever which are the Ten Lords commandments!

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You premis that is not supported by scripture. It is an assumption that Paul parsed the law.

mark46 said:

I apologize. I cannot find the details of bills within the last week. However, the New York Times says that more is included that extending Obamacare subsidies. For example, Democrats have a clause regarding public broadcasting. I suspect that the reversal of the shifting of various Medicaid costs is still in there as it was when rival bills were presented prior to the shutdown.
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As I said, I strongly support the proposal of a clean bill with the one change of extending the Obamacare subsidies.

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Do you mean this bill (the Dems)?

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/2882/text

or maybe this one (the GOP)?

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/5371/text

Note that if you find something in the Dems bill, it would be good to see if it is in the GOP bill.

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essentialsaltes said:

"The Church, like a mother, accompanies those who are walking," Leo wrote in the document released by the Vatican on Thursday.

"Where the world sees threats, she sees children; where walls are built, she builds bridges. She knows that her proclamation of the Gospel is credible only when it is translated into gestures of closeness and welcome. And she knows that in every rejected migrant, it is Christ himself who knocks at the door of the community."

The pope praised the longstanding tradition in the church to welcome migrants, citing the efforts of the Catholic charities umbrella group Caritas Internationalis. On Thursday, Leo also sent a message to the Catholic Charities USA Network, which has been impacted by the freeze of federal funds for nonprofit organizations, praising their work with migrants and encouraging them to continue their efforts as "agents of hope."

The exhortation, "Dilexi te" (I Have Loved You), divided into five chapters, is addressed to "All Christians." It was signed on Oct. 4, on the feast of St. Francis of Assisi and follows in the footsteps of his predecessors, who starting with St. John XXIII issued forceful document urging nations and believers to care for the poorest in society.

"No Christian can regard the poor simply as a societal problem; they are part of our 'family,'" Leo writes. "They are "'one of us.'"

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Matthew 25 : 41
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels:
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for I was hungry, and ye did not give me to eat; I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink;
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I was a stranger, and ye took me not in; naked, and ye clothed me not; sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
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Then shall they also answer, saying, Lord, when saw we thee hungry, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
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Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not unto one of these least, ye did it not unto me.
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And these shall go away into eternal punishment: but the righteous into eternal life.