And this is why it is futile trying to have a discussion with you. Your claim is that Paul is speaking about the Jewish law, and only the Jewish law, when he talks about salvation not being by works, and when I confront you about the fact that the idea of salvation by works has been an issue even throughout the church age, you back peddle and and claim that it is God alone that justifies, not the law. WHICH IS WHAT I SAID.
Have a nice day.
Silliness. I don't have to "back peddle"-I said we're justifed by God alone at least as far back as post #51. We are not
made just by any work, IOW, because that would be
US doing it -and
not GOD.
The issue that you have is with the historic Christian faith, in your insistence that righteousness is merely and solely
imputed to or declared of us at justification: we're made to
look just, IOW, as a cloak put on us, when, in fact we're not just. But, in Christianity, God doesn't save us by
pretending that we're righteous; rather, He saves us by
making us righteous. And if we remain in Him we will remain in that justice, that righteouesness, doing His will. If we're not doing His will, if we're sinning wantonly and egregiously, then we haven't remained in Him and while He'll always seek to draw us back to Himself, to the fold, we can't
presume that He'll override our wills: to sin is to set ourselves against Him and His will to begin with.
God is not expecting perfect sinlessness in this life, only that we get on board with Him on the path He's set out for us, and remain there, or repent and return there if we've seriously strayed. The Way, the path to God, is away from sin. And our wills are involved all throughout that journey. God's purpose from Eden until now has never been about producing automatons but about producing a greater being than He began with, who now, willingly with the aid of grace, has ultimately come to love Him with their whole heart, soul, mind, and strength-and their neighbor as themselves. That's your very purpose, your created
telos.