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Charlie Kirk - Martyr or Political Activist?

If Charlie Kirk was simply a man of faith, it is unlikely that he would have been targeted. Political activism is why he was famous. He was murdered by somebody who believed in political violence.
I wouldn't rush to that judgement. Kirk was murdered by a man in love with another man in transition to a woman. Kirk else has come out regarding a disagreement in political issues.

Robinson did not like what Kirk was saying regarding the LGBTQ community. That is both, religiously and political, in nature.
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"Under Title X of the US Code, the President has plenary authority..."

President Trump has cited Title 10, U.S. Code, Section 12406 as the authority to deploy the National Guard to protect federal personnel and property.

§12406. National Guard in Federal service: call
Whenever-
(1) the United States, or any of the Commonwealths or possessions, is invaded or is in danger of invasion by a foreign nation;
(2) there is a rebellion or danger of a rebellion against the authority of the Government of the United States; or
(3) the President is unable with the regular forces to execute the laws of the United States;

The President may call into Federal service members and units of the National Guard of any State in such numbers as he considers necessary to repel the invasion, suppress the rebellion, or execute those laws. Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States or, in the case of the District of Columbia, through the commanding general of the National Guard of the District of Columbia.

Section 12406 of Title 10 permits the President to call the National Guard into federal service under specific circumstances, including invasion, rebellion, or when unable to execute laws with regular forces.

Section 12406 is distinct from the Insurrection Act (10 U.S.C. § 251-255). The Insurrection Act specifically allows the president to use the military for civilian law enforcement during an insurrection, while Section 12406, when used alone, does not override the Posse Comitatus Act and restricts federalized troops to a supportive role, such as protecting property. The decision to use Section 12406 instead of the Insurrection Act may be due to its potentially lower political sensitivity, but it has resulted in legal ambiguity and debate over presidential authority.

Fantastic, except for the conspicuous omission of demonstrating the specific and narrow circumstances of this aspect of Title 10 are satisfied factually.
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Who then can be saved?

Yes, He’s the rest giver not the 4th commandment. The Sabbath is something man does according to God, if that counts Isa 56:2 Exo 20:8-11 its not a commandment for Him to keep so we can profane

Jesus said Mat 11:28-30 and still kept the Sabbath Luke 4:16 Lev 23:3 as did the apostles Acts 13:42,44 Acts 15:21 Acts 18:4 etc Jesus is our example 1John2:6 1Peter 2:21-22
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Another look at the moon landing.

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Astronauts, like most scientists, accept that the Earth is approximately 4.54 billion years old based on extensive geological and astronomical evidence. This age is supported by methods such as radiometric dating of rocks and meteorites, which provide a consistent timeline for the formation of the Earth and the solar system. Wikipedia The Planetary Society

Age of the Earth According to Science​

Scientific Consensus​

Astronauts, like many scientists, accept that the Earth is approximately 4.54 billion years old. This estimate is based on extensive research, including radiometric age-dating of meteorites and lunar samples. These methods provide a reliable framework for understanding the age of our planet and the solar system.

Formation of the Earth​

The Earth formed from a rotating disk of gas and dust around the young Sun about 4.6 billion years ago. This process involved the accumulation of material through collisions and gravitational attraction, leading to the formation of the planet as we know it today.

Comparison with Young Earth Creationism​

In contrast, some belief systems, such as Young Earth Creationism, assert that the Earth is only 6,000 to 10,000 years old. This view is based on literal interpretations of religious texts, particularly the Bible. However, this perspective contradicts established scientific evidence and is not supported by the broader scientific community.

Conclusion​

The overwhelming scientific evidence supports the view that the Earth is billions of years old, a belief shared by astronauts and scientists alike. This understanding is crucial for comprehending Earth's history, geological processes, and the evolution of life.
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Who is on the Lords Side?

He who is not with Me, is against Me….. Matthew 12:30

But, all the nations and people groups currently occupying the Holy Land, are not with Jesus. Only a very small percentage of individual Christian people are there. Isaiah 29:1-4 describes how a small Jewish Christian group will survive.
The Jewish State of Israel continues in its rejection of Jesus and all the Muslim entities worship Allah, the satanic moon god, represented by the crescent symbol.

Matthew 12:26 If it is Satan who fights Satan, he is divided against himself - how can his kingdom stand?

Todays kind of situation is nothing new; the Sunni sect of Islam hates the Shi-ite sect and even Christian peoples fight each other. The original example is when the Northern ten tribes of the House of Israel opposed the Jewish House of Judah; Israel is in rebellion against Judah unto this day. 1 Kings 12:19

God is in control and He allowed the Jewish State of Israel to be established by a group of Zionist atheists under communistic principles. Most do not acknowledge their Creator God and they arrogantly rely on their own strength. The criteria for citizenship is not ethnicity, but mainly the practice of Judaism.

The reason God has tolerated their existence is that the Jews are the symbolic face of ancient Israel, while God, thru the Holy Spirit, works with the real Israelites of God - those grafted into the olive tree, Jew and Gentile. It is the faithful Christian peoples who display the fruit of the Spirit. Galatians 5:22-25, Matthew 21:43

Many Bible Prophesies say that the Lord will clear and cleanse the Holy Land and will then gather His peoples to live there. It is our destiny and great privilege to be alive at this pivotal point in human history.
Be ready to stand firm in your faith and trust the Lord, as we pass through all that must take place until the glorious Return of Jesus as Lord of Lords and King of Kings.

Anxiety about hell and eternal torture

Lately I’ve really been struggling with anxiety and OCD, especially around intrusive fears about hell. It’s been taking over my thoughts and making it hard to get through the day. Sometimes I get stuck worrying about people I care about possibly “going there,” and other times I spiral into fear about myself.

Whenever I come across posts that talk about eternal torture or damnation, it makes everything worse — it triggers the anxiety and sends me into a loop I can’t easily escape. I know these thoughts don’t reflect who I am or what I truly believe, but they still feel so real in the moment.
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If you have believed in Jesus for God's free gift of Eternal Life. Then you should have absolute no fears as John states.

“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.


That is not a you may, but a Most assuredly, I say to you,
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Freed Israeli Hostage: Hamas Was "Very Scared" Of Trump, They Wanted Kamala

Pretty cool they were kept abreast of US politics while being held in captivity.
lol I had to go back and read the article again. It was not the hostages keeping abreast of US politics it was their captors. The hostage is recalling what their Hamas captors said.
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Slipped disc

I am a board certified pain specialist and have treated this condition in many patients. The poster that said your mileage may vary is absolutely correct.

Your doctor may have already explained this to you, but a slipped disc is a mechanical injury. There are normally 5 low back vertebrae, and we can imagine them as sandwiches. Squeeze to hard and the peanut butter comes out the sides.
Unfortunately there are nerves there and when the disc causes pressure on the nerve, we can pain, numbness and in extreme cases, weakness.
The worst case, which requires emergency surgery, is when your bottom feels so numb that you will lose control of your bowels and bladder.
If that happens, go to the hospital and get surgery or the loss of function could become permanent.

Ordinarily, surgery should only be used if there is weakness or loss of function. If you have surgery only for pain. The wear and tear will cause the pain to come back in 6 months to two years and you will wonder why you had the surgery.


The three ways to treat slipped disc are physical therapy, steroid injections and surgery

Physical therapy takes time, up to two to four years for maximum benefit, so pain meds are added to help complete the therapy. Pain meds do not treat back pain, they alter your perception of pain so physical therapy can be completed

Physical therapy strengthens the muscles around your spine to keep the individual vertebrae from moving. If the vertebrae move, the disc slips out more and the bones develop arthritis from the constant wear and tear
The best exercises are low impact. Swimming is gentle as it removes some of the effect of gravity. If you want to run, get an eliptical machine so your feet won’t touch the ground. If you run on a treadmill or the street, every time your foot hits the ground, a shock wave goes up your spine that makes the slipped disc worse

One of the overlooked causes of back pain is mechanical strain due to one leg shorter than the other, even as little as 5mm. A simple test is to feel the back of your lower legs. If one is bigger than the other, you may have strain due to mismatched length of legs. If you do, you can have your legs measured and an insole made for one of your shoes, think of it as an alignment. If your legs are the same length the stress will be taken off of your back and the pain improves

If the pain is too much or therapy is taking too long, there are steroid injections to shrink the disc and relieve inflammation, but they don’t take the place of therapy to strengthen your back. If your back muscles are weak, the bones move, which causes arthritis and the disc to slip again

A good exercise for back pain is planking. Lay on your belly, get up on your elbows and tip toes while keeping your back totally straight, not humped. Most can hold that position for 10-30 seconds at first, but if you keep trying and eventually make it to 4 minutes, your back is a maximum strength

Also if your disc is bad, don’t sleep laying flat. Gravity is not your friend, and your discs will fill up with water and push harder on the nerves if you lie flat. You may notice back pain is worse in the morning and gets better as you stand up and move. If that is the case, sleep in a recliner sitting up, and you may notice your mornings are better.

There are other treatments for back pain depending on the cause

Sorry if this explanation is too long, if you have any questions feel free to ask

Hope you feel better
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Bill Gates launches micro-patch implants to serve as "vaccination passport" for entry into public and commercial buildings

It’s been awhile since I saw this movie but my understanding is that she was raped by a demonic entity or Satan after she was drugged by the elderly couple / Satanists and her husband was used as a vessel. Kinda far fetched but…

I read the book a few years ago and watched the film afterward. They drugged her and she had relations with her husband initially but the demonic entity took over. If I recall it happened a few times. She was given something during her pregnancy that made her sick but the baby required it.

When it was born they took it away but she would hear it crying and realized it was in the unit beside hers and broke through the adjoining wall. It was resting in a black cradle with a black veil above and black toys overhead. As another shared it wasn’t human.

The common denominator in the films is deception. One party usually knows the truth and targeting is common. They choose someone naive and trusting they can manipulate and there’s usually a group or individual in the picture who makes sure things go as planned. Although it’s a film they use a similar blueprint today and we see it with celebrities.

~bella
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Why Those in Hell Can Never Leave

God bless you. Also, the Church teaches that hell is a state of separation from God, not necessarily "fire and brimstone."

(I'm aware you aren't Catholic)

His grace and peace to you.
Thank you, I really appreciate that. I know a lot of traditions understand hell more as separation from God rather than literal fire, and that perspective definitely feels less frightening to me. My anxiety just tends to latch onto the harshest interpretations, even when I know they don’t line up with God’s love and mercy.

I’m working on reminding myself that God’s nature is compassion, not cruelty , and that fear doesn’t come from Him. Thank you for your this post and for taking the time to say that. It really means a lot. :)
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What Am I Missing Here?

On the last page of the novel The Grapes Of Wrath, a young mother breastfeeds an adult man because he is starving. It's a fictional story, and it's done for shock value IMO, but I assume the milk would always be beneficial.
Never read that novel, thanks for the input!
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Trump’s Name Chanted in Israel AND Gaza After Peace Deal: ‘Nobel Prize to Trump!’

Do we need anymore proof that Palestinians cannot govern themselves? If this continues, the only thing Hamas is going to govern is a pile of rubble.

I think the acknowledgement of that reality is likely why the negotiations included governing bodies from other Arab states filling some leadership roles in the short term.

From what I've read about it thus far, it sounds like the idea that's been pitched involves Egypt and Jordan taking quasi-administrative roles during the transitional/reconstruction phase.

It think that's the right move for both practical and PR reasons.

From a practical perspective: Palestinians are going to be more receptive to Egypt and Jordan filling that role than they would be a perceived "colonialist power". From a PR perspective, if there are any conflicts that involve some necessary use of force for certain incidents, Egypt and Jordan "wielding the sword" (instead of Western powers or Israel) will deflate and diffuse a lot of the typical domestic talking points.
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What denominations believe in the Rapture?

Thank you my friend, that is extremely kind of you. I am for an information dense style that many readers such as yourself enjoy; I can’t be all things for all people, and sometimes some readers criticize me for this style, but I am comforted by the knowledge that other readers appreciate it

I’m about to do a series of threads and posts on liturgical subjects, on the views of those who support EO-OO unification such as the numerous hierarchs of the International Orthodox Theological Association, and on ancient canon law and why evangelicals and other Protestants ought to apply it, and how it will protect churches from scandal.

Does that sound good to you?
Since I am not Orthodox, Eastern or Oriental, I'm not sure if I have much opinion on a unification. With that said, I would love to learn more about it.

Peace
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