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AvilaSurfer · 2025-12-13T19:14:15-0600

Of course we do.

RileyG · 2025-12-13T19:10:16-0600

FaithT said:
If others were veiling at the Latin Mass then I probably would too.

Makes sense to me! As they say “when in Rome…”

JohnClay · 2025-12-13T19:09:09-0600

d taylor said:
No person knows what heaven is like, so how do they know that they are experiencing heaven on earth.

I think the expression "heaven on earth" can be pretty straight forward - like being about feeling like you're in a paradise or utopia in your everyday life. There is also the expression "hell on earth".

Tom D · 2025-12-13T18:59:07-0600

Awesome, this archaeological discovery CONFIRMS Catholicism.

zoidar · 2025-12-13T18:45:07-0600

Dikaioumenoi said:
What other interpretations are plausible? What is the syntactic argument for their plausibility?

Where have I been unclear? Can you specifically quote what portion of my argument breaks down and fails to produce the conclusion I offered?

Where I find lack of clarity is when phrases like "the grammar itself provides the reason" or "so there's the reason" are used, since that language sounds like a claim of textual necessity rather than interpretation.

I’m not equipped to engage at this level of technical detail you are asking for, so I’m going to step back for now.

jonojim1337 · 2025-12-13T18:33:58-0600

RDKirk said:
The problem here is your use of the word "sin."

I don't think Paul had any intention of implying that Emperor Nero respected the concept of "sin" as Paul himself did.

No one is above the Word. Emperor Nero would do good to keep the commandments.

RDKirk said:
And not "sins" that the Body of Christ should expect worldly governments to punish.

The concept of a worldly, or secular government, was foreign at the time. This grew out of the Reformation, where one first started to question the definition of Caesar, and then culminated in the French Revolution I guess, where the concept of Caesar didn’t even matter anymore and could just mean any government at all, and especially that of wicked men governing themselves.

There is no authority that is not from God means just that, if the authority is not from God then it is not an authority. We do not have an obligation to follow the whims of wicked men. Honor to whom honor is due.

The Barbarian · 2025-12-13T18:29:09-0600

YeshuaFan said:
well, jesus stated that Genesis was a literal historical account

Can you cite a verse?

The Barbarian · 2025-12-13T18:26:56-0600

essentialsaltes said:
After they get through with studying vaccines and autism, they'll get on this hypothesis.

We obviously need to start drafting pirates now.

.Mikha'el. · 2025-12-13T18:23:20-0600

DragonFox91 said:
Me too. You used to whine about it too? I never would’ve guessed. I am trying not to anymore tho I want to

There are other sources of unhappiness beyond being single that gnaw at me more these days. If you have the rest of your life in a good place, then being frustrated as single would really weigh one down because it's the biggest void.

Belk · 2025-12-13T17:52:32-0600

JSRG said:
There actually was some strategy to this. If they didn't indict in time, then that was it; it was over due to the statute of limitations. By indicting in time, even if it was rushed and sloppy (hence the dismissal), they'd have an extra 6 months to bring a new indictment (probably--there is an argument that the initial indictment might have been botched so badly it doesn't actually count as an indictment, and that it therefore wouldn't fall under the statute that grants the 6-month extension for re-indictment after a dismissal if it's now past the statute of limitations).

Granted, the case against Comey is by all appearances so weak I have doubts they can even bring it to trial, and I'd be absolutely amazed if they could actually convict; it would've made more sense to just not bring it at all, hence why they notoriously had to fire the prosecutor who didn't want to bring it in and bring in someone who had no experience prosecuting to do it instead. Still, if your goal is to convict, however slim your odds are, and your choices are "do a rushed and sloppy indictment and keep the case alive or don't indict at all and you lose it forever" the former is obviously the better one.

There is also the issue that they botched this one so badly they now have to throw out a lot of the evidence. I don't think they were planning on using the six month extension, I think they lucked into that.

RickardoHolmes · 2025-12-13T17:47:52-0600

I spent Christmas Eve once driving 1200 miles 955 miles to be home with family arriving at 230 AM That was decades ago and was the last time I missed the Midnight Christmas Eve service Which to me IS celebrating Christmas

jonojim1337 · 2025-12-13T17:39:04-0600

Hentenza said:
This is irrelevant regarding my question to the other poster. Nothing in my question about shadows.

The part where the covenant is broken. Dietary laws belong to that covenant.

ThatRobGuy · 2025-12-13T17:36:42-0600

Richard T said:
I just hope that the US has it's facts right about the motives and intents of all the players involved. Too often governments use such events to twist it to their desired outcomes.

That's always a possibility...

However, in this instance, the "likely an ISIS gunman" isn't far fetched considering it happened in Syria.

I believe Syria still has the 2nd largest ISIS presence in the world behind Iraq.

If Wikipedia is accurate about this, ISIS controls 6 provinces (out of 14) in Syria, which would substantiate the Pentagon spokesman's statement about it happening "in an area where the Syrian President does not have control."

Hans Blaster · 2025-12-13T17:14:05-0600

rockytopva said:
The human spirit can have a sensation of warmth (E),

warmth, is a sensation derived from a positive thermal flow ( dQ > 0 ) from another object or being.

rockytopva said:
frequency,

Humans don't have a "frequency".

rockytopva said:
and vibration (c2).

Vibrations do have a frequency, f, and they have amplitudes, but "c^2" has nothing to do with them. Period.

These are all physics words that people abuse, and you do so in almost every post I see from you. Please stop, or at least learn what you are talking about.

rockytopva said:
Unknown, unseen, not measured in pounds or kilograms... But is somehow very pleasantly there..
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For those kinds of vibrations, you need a theremin.

peaceful-forest · 2025-12-13T17:06:01-0600

Apple Sky said:
The story of Santa Claus has a dark origin in the legends of Saint Nicholas, who is said to have resurrected three boys murdered and pickled by an evil innkeeper. This gruesome tale was a part of his mythos in medieval Europe and contributed to his being associated with dark companions like Krampus or Père Fouettard, who punish naughty children. Over time, the modern, cheerful Santa Claus image emerged, largely through Clement C. Moore's poem and Thomas Nast's illustrations, which downplayed or ignored these darker origins.

I haven't heard about this.

But I think if Christians are going to claim that Christmas is about Jesus, it should certainly look that way! Why do we have to put up an Evergreen tree, decorate it, buy people presents, and and the Santa thing with children in order to be thankful and worshipful towards Jesus and what He did for us? It makes no sense.

I think more people are being convicted of this as the years pass.

Dan Perez · 2025-12-13T17:02:07-0600

A New Dawn said:
Many scholars debate that the water baptism in verse 5 equals being born of a woman and born of the spirit is the baptism from above. He equates the two in the next verse. So I believe he is equating being born again as the spirit baptism (regeneration).

In. EPH 4:5. it reads ONE LORD , ONE FAITH , ONE BAPTSM. and HEIS in the GREEK MEANS ONE

# 1 THERE IS BAPTO

#2 THERE IS BAPTISMO

#3. THERE IS BAPTISM

#4. THERE IS BAPTIZING

#5 THERE IS BAPTISMA

# 6 THERE IS SPRINKING

# 7 THERE IS SO CALLED IMMERSION

# 8 RHER IS SUBMISSION

So . which. one is THE ONE BAPTISM. ??

dan p

timothyu · 2025-12-13T16:55:57-0600

Ain't Zwinglian said:
A great diagnostic question

Amalgam. We were built hybrids, flesh and spirit.. The choice of which nature to follow was also built in. A&E took the lead in making that choice when they followed their fleshy instinct to serve self instead of the spirit of God. Self became their god. I doubt God expected any different, combining two opposing wills. Is not understanding the result of learning rather than following and memorizing/mimicking? It's not like other creatures who follow self with no other option, being flesh. We need to learn how best to use this new concept. Its not like God hasn't continually told us how, but of course being focused on self, we'd rather find our own way. Good luck with that.

LizaMarie · 2025-12-13T16:54:18-0600

probinson said:
Fear not. The health insurance companies are more than happy to continue covering this vaccine dose, despite there being no evidence of benefit to low-risk children.

Parents will still be able to get the hepatitis B vaccine for their children at no cost even though the US Centers for Disease and Control Prevention’s vaccine advisers recommended a major change to the immunization practice.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/07/health/hepatitis-b-vaccine-insurance-coverage

You know what I find really odd about this story? They say this:

The revised recommendation calls for mothers who test negative for the virus to consult with a doctor or other health care provider before having their babies vaccinated. This could create confusion and place additional hurdles in front of parents and result in fewer children being immunized.

So the new recommendation is, consult with your physician. Not don't get it. Not, it's harmful. Not any of the other nonsense the media has portrayed. Simply "consult with your physician". Apparently, people believe that consulting with your physician about medical interventions could create "confusion".

That statement is astounding. But it's not really all that surprising. If you've followed COVID and the vaccines that followed, it always made sense to "consult with your physician". But to avoid "confusion", they decided that they should just "recommend" it to everyone.

These recommendations are not evidence-based. They are based on convenience. What a weird place we've arrived at where simply recommending one to consult their physician before making a decision is now deemed "confusing".

Things really went south with COVID, I blame Trump who bungled it at first, to Biden who mandated the COVID vaccines. As someone else upthread said Covid got really politicized on both sides. I don't think the vaccines should have been mandated, and they were rushed out too fast. So while probably generally safe, people could be excused for not trusting them. I have not had a Covid shot or booster in almost 3 years and don't plan to for awhile.
Polio, MMR and DTAP and Hep B vaccines however have years of proven safety records, and are far safer than the diseases they prevent. Of course there are people who can't tolerate vaccines. I have a friend who can't take any vaccines.

linux.poet · 2025-12-13T16:52:03-0600

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Danthemailman · 2025-12-13T16:51:38-0600

Here we go again. :pray:

BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER at Brown University - Two People Dead - At Least 20 Injured - Shooter Still at Large | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

Update: Two people are dead and at least 20 are injured in the mass shooting, according to NBC News.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

walter45 · 2025-12-13T16:49:41-0600

What's more important, something You or I explain, or something Jesus and the Apostles explain?
Isn't Jesus words Paramount?

- If you could please state your belief.
- Then list the scriptures that explain it.

Focusing on the "context in scripture", not so much our Viewpoints or Explanations.

This subject I have thoroughly discussed maybe there is another subject that interests you?

Philip_B · 2025-12-13T16:41:30-0600

It is 27 degrees Celsius here at 9.00 am. That is the forecast maximum for today; however, I am fairly certain we will surpass it.

linux.poet · 2025-12-13T16:38:19-0600

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Pop D. · 2025-12-13T16:20:47-0600

Heavenly Father, Holy is Your Name, we pray You will watch over Caroline and Adeline, and keep them healthy, in the Name of Jesus, as only You can do. Amen and Amen.

MarkRohfrietsch · 2025-12-13T16:16:14-0600

Meester-Chung said:
why did Martin Luther removed them?

Well, he did not; when Lutherans here transitioned to English, the available translation was the "Protestant" KJV (which originally included these books as well) Here is some additional information (the whole article can be found here: The Apocrypha, Early Church Councils, and Martin Luther - Shepherd of the Hills Lutheran Church ).

Luther (1480-1546)

During his lifetime, Luther translated the Bible into German. His translation did include the Apocrypha; so Luther did not reject the Apocrypha. What Luther did that was novel was his placement of the Apocrypha: he placed them between the two testaments. This tradition of placing the Apocrypha between the two testaments helped set in place two views of thought:

Positive: The Apocrypha was a secondary category of books within the Bible. This was nothing new, and may, in truth, have helped better understand the Apocrypha as deuterocanon and/or anagignoskomena.

Negative: By putting all the Apocrypha together instead of interspersing them as before, Luther helped set up a churchly culture that could later more-easily remove the Apocrypha altogether from the Bible. And this largely took place in the Bibles Protestant used in the 1800s (1900s for German Lutherans who were transitioning to English).

Luther’s most-famous quotation about the Apocrypha comes from his preface to the Apocrypha in his German translation of the Bible: “These books are not held equal to the Scriptures, but are useful and good to read.”

Yet, Luther’s view of Scripture is more complex than today’s simple yes-or-no approach. Luther’s view was more catholic than the average Christian has today. Ralph Bohlmann in Criteria of Biblical Canonicity, wrote:

In both Testaments Luther thus regarded a number of books to be of lesser authority than the chief books. But did inferiority mean non-canonicity? The answer is not simple, for in spite of Luther’s negative attitude toward such books, they were included in every edition of Luther’s Bible published during his lifetime (and for many years thereafter). If the disputed books were not in some sense “biblical,” it is difficult to understand why Luther neither eliminated them from his Bible nor added other useful apocryphal writings to each Testament. Moreover, his language at least occasionally suggests that these books remain “Scripture,” as, for example, when he contrasts them with “all other Scripture.” [pg. 120]

So we find that Luther included the apocryphal books in his Die Bibel. He did not consider them equal in authority to canonical Scripture, and held they should not be used to define Christian doctrine. In other words, Luther saw them as secondary, yet still worthy of being read, as anagignoskomena.

Although Luther’s denigration of the Apocrypha was atypical, his views were still within the norm of the Church catholic in that he treated the Apocrypha as biblical but not canonical, not for making or creating doctrine.

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