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Living by faith, not by sight

We tithe, and wonder to make it every month. I don’t know what we’d do without money coming in. We pray,
we go to church twice a week. We serve. We don’t love our money but it’s survival. Month to month, not complaining.

God has provided for us. But never pray so we can eat every day. Paul fasted a lot, he was a long way from a clothing ministry at times. Having no Money facilitated his ministry, his witness, his writing. He went without between cities. We live by faith for joy and peace and endurance. We live by faith for life every day. We don’t have to worry about food but to stay in Christ in faith in love. God has provided and does provide everything we need.

But are you guys working? Or free as bird with a fiddle? That would definitely be by faith. Traveling?
Out of curiosity, have you ever heard tithing mentioned in the New Testament

Jesus taught that we can't serve God and money, that we'd love one or the other. (Matthew 6:24) The more we profess a need for money, the more we communicate that IT is the source of our provision, and not the God who owns the cattle on the hills.

To answer your question, yes, my wife and I work. But we work for (i.e. serve) God, and not money. Sometimes our work brings in "income"; sometimes it doesn't. But because serving God (and not money) is our motivation, we are just as happy to do our work when we are being paid for it, as when we are not.

How about you? Would you still do your job if you weren't being paid to do it?
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How to Respond to the Cross-Dressing Man at Mass? DIFFICULT MORAL QUESTIONS: What we do and what we tolerate both witness to what we believe.

Has anyone read a Catholic book written by a priest or saint and thought, "they would NEVER approve of such-and-such happening at Mass today"?

I just don't see how the saints of yesteryear (if they were ever a priest) would willingly give such a person Communion. I'm not trying to sound like I'm better than anyone. There is just no way. We've gone so far downhill on how to behave reverently at Mass that it's shocking when we actually want to do what's proper anymore. Do you think that St. Francis de Sales who converted thousands of Calvinists to the faith would think this is OK? Padro Pio? St. Thomas Aquinas? Father Gabriel Amorth? Father Martin Von Cochem? (I'm not knowledgeable enough on the names of "famous" Catholic priests)
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A perspective on Baptism and the plan of salvation that I have not heard before

"Mary is the perfect one, the only one of her mother." NOT TRUE according to scripture.

  • Romans 3:23: "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God".
  • Romans 3:10: "None is righteous, no, not one".
  • Ecclesiastes 7:20: "Indeed, there is no one on earth who is righteous, no one who does what is right and never sins".
  • 1 John 1:8: "If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us".

Firstly, Ecclesiastes was obviously written before the birth of the Theotokos, and Romans and 1 John post-date her demise. We can say this because the Holy Apostles were still alive at the time of her repose. Secondly, these scriptures were written for our benefit - indeed it is unlikely Our Lady ever heard Romans or 1 John per se.

However, just because the Theotokos did not commit forensic sin does not mean she saved herself. Rather she was saved, like the rest of us, through Christ our True God, whose incarnation happened in her womb.

Scripture does clearly assert the Theotokos to be blessed and that all generations shall regard her as blessed.

*Of course, she knew the Holy Apostles, and was particularly well acquainted with St. Luke, who was her physician, and St. John the Beloved Disciple by virtue of having adopted him at the command of her Son from the Cross) although she was no doubt familiar with their message. Ecclesiastes however she was likely well aware of given the nature of her youth. Actually for that matter, most first century Christians would not have heard both Romans and John, since we are talking about epistles written by St. Paul and St. John to specific local ekkelsia, which were only later identified as genuine apostolic writings and included in the New Testament Canon as it was formalized in 367 AD by St. Athanasius based on earlier proposed canons (such as that in the Ecclesiastical History of Eusebius, that of the Syriac Peshitta**, a minimalist 22 book canon that lacks 2 John, 3 John, 2 Peter, Jude and Revelation) and that of the ancient manuscripts like the Codex Sinaiticus which included a few extra books later reckoned spurious if not heretical, like Laodiceans, most likely for fear of omissions (indeed St. Jerome translated this into Latin for the Vulgate despite regarding it as an apocryphon) as well as early Patristic writings such as the Shepherd of Hermas.

** The extra five books of the New Testament canon were later added to the West Syriac Peshitto used by the Syriac Orthodox Church and historically by the Maronite Christians of Lebanon (among whom it survives as a liturgical language, but sadly the Maronites on;y speak Arabic in the vernacular, whereas some West Syriac Christians from Syria, Turkey and the Holy Land, and nearly a million East Syriac / Assyrian Christians in Iraq and Iran, do continue to speak various Aramaic dialects which are related to Syriac, which in turn was historically the predominant form of Aramaic used by Christians. Indeed Christian, Jewish and Mandaean speakers of Aramaic developed their own divergent dialects; the Mandaeans speak Mandaic for instance, although anyone raised speaking Aramaic who later studies the language in depth can with some effort understand these various dialects. However they are quite distinct from Old Testament Aramaic or Gallilean Neo-Aramaic, the dialect likely spoken by Christ our True God, separated by time and geography.

In English, unlike in German, we don’t have many surviving dialects which have intelligibility problems, but there are a few used in parts of England which are very hard to understand, but which usually also exist in a mitigated accent form, for example, Geordie, the dialect spoken in North Yorkshire and Lancashire, or Scots. However we can get a sense of how intelligibility decreases over time by trying to read Middle English (I can read Geoffrey Chaucer’s Canterbury Tales per aspera, but the more removed we get from Modern English the more opaque it becomes, and Old English is unintelligible to me, except with a few recognizable words. Additionally, the West Frisian language, spoken in a province of the Netherlands, is also almost mutually intelligible with English and Scots, hence the saying “Eggs and green cheese is good English and good Fries.”
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Newsome pushed back against Democracy to achieve his political goals

In 2024 Newsom and Bass made cuts to firefighting budgets while Newsom authorized almost 10 billion for healthcare for illegal immigrants. It’s all on your keyboard my friend.
As others have said - please concede the truth about Trump's water lies - and then you will have some street kudos back. We can move onto other claims after we've dealt with this slippery, watery claim from a slippery President.
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You Can’t Get There from Here

As far as the east is from the west
so far does he remove our sins. (Psalm 103:12)

A Dissident Damsel Who Defied the Red Dragon

It has been said, purportedly by G. K. Chesterton, that when people stop believing in God, they don’t believe in nothing but in anything. Even worse is that the things which people believe are not merely godless but deadly and demonic.

Another liberal judge injects her politics into law...

Yes, because we all know that Democracy, civil rights and the Constitution mandate the military occupation of Portland for pretended reasons.
Military occupation lol!

Feds Finally Round Up Portland’s “Untouchable” Antifa Core
Federal agents have ARRESTED several black-clad Antifa militants outside the ICE facility in Portland.
The days of “peaceful protestors” are over...these are the hardcore rioters in full black-bloc gear, now getting a taste of real justice.
Local DA can’t pull the usual no-bail, low-bail trick...these arrests are federal. No easy release. No revolving door.
For years they burned cities, smashed windows, and called it “activism.”
Now? They’re being hauled off in cuffs by the same government they swore to destroy.
Accountability has finally arrived...courtesy of the Feds
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Experimenting with AI

Not Physical or Life Science; more like technology. In any event, with AI becoming ubiquitous, here's an easy experiment: Ask an AI about something concrete but obscure that you're 100% certain of without any shadow of a doubt. Not anything "gotcha" like 11 + 11 (22 decimal; 110 binary). Just something straightforward. Which AI you ask doesn't matter.

I tried this, and the results were less than impressive. The only thing it got correct was the name of the event and when it happened. A supposed participant wasn't there. The specific event that triggered it wasn't mentioned, nor was the aftermath. Most of the response was fluff worded to pass for something authoritative. It didn't work. It read for all the world like a grade school student trying to bluff his way through an essay question.

In picking something concrete but obscure, you're asking the AI for something there's not a lot of info online to train it. No telling how many words are written about, oh, Washington crossing the Delaware, or calculating the value of Pi, and what AI regurgitates might be passable. Might. Something obscure isn't going to have many words online about it, and what AI comes up with can be questionable. It might be questionable even if there's a lot of words written about it, because it has no reasoning to fact check itself. This experiment is sort of looking at boundary conditions that evaluates the accuracy of AI.

Add to the mix topics that people debate. Add to it things that some people consider as not concrete. And consider that AI has no reasoning to evaluate its own responses.

Now consider the posts that show up on CF that are essentially "AI says." Then consider that if AI can't be relied on when it comes to the obscure, how can we rely on it for anything where it has to imitate "general knowledge?"

Has Kirk's Death Prompted You?

Even Jesus Christ said there's reason to get a divorce (adultery) so divorce isn't universally a sin. Each case is unique as to whether it is a sin.

However there's no instance of homosexuality that isn't a sin.

That's why the two things are approached differently from a policy making standpoint in society writ large, although keeping marriages together and the father in the home is a necessary thing in society so it's heavily promoted by the political right, as two parent families are the backbone of any society

When we aren't dealing with the exact same thing, we have to treat them differently. We can't promote making divorce illegal in our society when not even Jesus did that, for example, whereas we can in the case of homosexuality - and seeing the harm it causes to society, it likely should be illegal.
Jesus said that "since the beginning it was not so" regarding divorce. Since this is the same argument the church uses against homosexuality, The distinction is not apparent.
When we make murder illegal and a criminal offense, we are "telling others what to do". Aka, we are telling everyone who wants to kill that it's not acceptable here, and if they do so will face punishment for it.

The law told Charlie Kirks murderer not to murder Charlie Kirk before he committed the crime.

Society makes rules based on the shared values of that society - and every society has their own version of what's acceptable and what kind of punishments should be meted out for which crimes.

The left of today is pathological and anarchist, while the rest of us are simply trying to keep a society the majority citizens are safe in and can potentially prosper in.
This post didn't read what I said, so there's nothing to respond to.
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US Citizens detained for hours during massive immigration raid that empties Chicago apartment building in the middle of the night

Rhis is FANTASTIC! So glad they are doing this.

The good citizens who are here should be glad their apartment building is being liberated from these criminal.illegal gangs. If it was me, I'd be fine with being held while they checked things out. Cause I'd know rhey were involved in a very dangerous situation and don't have time to work their way through every person immediately.

I'd be thanking them and showing my gratitude for getting rid of these terrible people.
Why stop at apartment buildings?
Why not round-up whole towns to sort out who is who?
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The law, the commandments, and Christians.

AND immutable you SAY. !!

And Romans 6:14 says , FOR sin will NOT //. OV. and the Greek word OV , is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE , which

means. , sin will rule over you for you are NOT. // OU. is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE , and these means you will

NEVER , UNDER THE LAWWWW EVER RRRR. but UNDER GRACE !!

And there were NO CHRISTAINS under Law until Acts 11;26. where it translated FOLLOWERS. and that is what

the word Christian , means , FOLLOWER. and since we are NOT UNDER THE Law , that. means NO more Priests either !!

dan p

On this point you have fallen victim to an ambiguity in English-language translations of scripture.

If we look at the Greek and Hebrew / Aramaic original texts, we will find that the Jewish priesthood, Kohanim, is a sacerdotal hieratic priesthood, where the word Kohen is equivalent to the Latin word Pontifex (meaning bridge-builder) or the Greek word Hierus, meaning divine, and all Christians are members of a royal hieratic sacerdotal priesthood in that we can appeal directly to God, for example, through the Lord’s Prayer, without making use of an intermediate Kohen.

However, while all Christians are hieratic and under the archierus Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son and Word of God, God Himself incarnate for our salvation, who is both our advocate and our judge, which is good for those of us who believe on him, not all Christians are presbyters (elders) or episkopoi (overseers or bishops). These pastoral roles are clearly delineated, along with that of the Diakonia (Deacons) and the qualifications for them are plainly set out in 1 Timothy (for example a man married to more than one woman, even if divorced or widowed and remarried, is supposed to be disqualified from being a presbyter).
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Has Anyone Hired a Moving Company Before?

I’m getting ready for an out-of-state move and starting to feel a bit overwhelmed. I’ve handled smaller moves on my own before, but this one is a lot bigger, so I’m thinking about bringing in professionals. Has anyone here used an affordable and reliable moving company they’d recommend? I came across Three Movers while searching online, their reviews seem okay, but I’d love to hear from anyone who’s actually worked with them or has other good suggestions.

Is AI making the human race dumber?

I actually don't think computers are capable of truth-preservation (validity). You can get them to mimic the symbol-moves of certain formal logical systems, but this isn't possible with natural language because natural language is not a formal language.

Well, we know computers excel at logical verification using formal logic, but the output of LLMs is by itself non-deterministic (although Business and Enterprise users of chatGPT, and I think Pro users also, can make use of an embedded code interpreter and data analysis subsystem which can do things like run python code generated by the LLM, which allows the system to create software on the fly, test it, and execute it.

Outside of the domain of AI, Prolog is a computer programming language specifically written based on formal logic. One programs using predicates and so forth. It isn’t widely used, but it does exist. Most actual logic validation is done using conventional functional-procedural languages. Indeed the VeriLog language used for quite a long time now for designing logic circuits like CPUs, memory, GPUs and so on*, is intended to provide among other things verification of the design logic, although there are numerous other verification steps required as should be obvious if you read my footnote.

However, formal verification of computer software does have its limits. For example, the Halting Problem, discovered by Alan Turing, - basically it cannot be mathematically verified whether a computer program will halt or continue running indefinitely given a specific instruction set even if you try to create some kind of meta-computer that evaluates all actions of the computer being simulated. The problem is that mathematically, it is simply unsolvable. However, this does not mean a computer program cannot do basic logic verification. Indeed much software we use on a daily basis, and by much I mean virtually all of it, is doing that, in various ways. Math is used for public key encryption; boolean comparisions are used to generate binary opposite patterns of data for various applications from graphics to program logic and compilation, hashing algorithms are used to create encoded representations of data such as passwords or message texts using protocols like SHA-2 or outright, and floating point math is done on GPUs for vector graphics.


*This can be used to generate a digital simulation of the device, or program an FPGA (field programmable gate array**, a dynamically reprogrammable hardware device) or used with complex toolchains from companies like Siemens EDA (formerly Mentor Graphics) to set up workflows to prototype, verify and begin mass production of CPUs, GPUs, ASICs and so on at semiconductor fabrication facilities or fabs, the industry leading fabs being operated by TSMC in Taiwan, and to a lesser extent Samsung and Intel, using $300,000,000 extreme ultra violet laser lithography tools which are the most complex machines in existence, assembled by a Dutch company called ASML with elaborate optics from a German company, Carl Zeiss SMT, and many subsystems from other companies some of which are wholly owned, like Cymer***, and others of which are independent and exist as part of the overall industrial ecosystem required for technology of this scale to flourish.

** FPGAs are not just used to test new electronics but are also used on some hardware platforms to provide dynamically reprogrammable logic circuits. For example, high end networking hardware such as switches, firewalls and so on can include FPGAs to allow for high speed processing for various applications such as blocking denial of service attacks, ultra-low latency network for real time trading, and other purposes. Indeed there are FPGAs affordable to mere mortals which can be used to run open source hardware for various porpuses.

*** Cymer makes the high-powered laser system used to generate flashes of extreme ultraviolet light. The way it works is a molten tin droplet is first deformed into a concave shape (from the laser’s perspective) and then vaporized with two precisely timed pulses, which produces the flash of extreme ultra violet light which has a wavelength small enough so that when used with the proper optics can produce the extremely small details on modern semiconductors, which are just a few nanometers in size. Indeed we’re approaching a point where the features will be so small quantum tunneling is likely to be an issue (this will be a bug, not a feature, because it does not enable quantum computing; quantum computing, if we are ever able to get it to work at scale, requires supercooled hardware which is isolated from the outside environment, but there are concerns about whether or not quantum computers will actually work, how scalable they will be and whether or not they will actually outperform conventional computers. If the many engineering problems are definitively solved, quantum computers will paradoxically give us unbreakable quantum encryption while also breaking most forms of classical encryption. I personally hope quantum computing proves to be a dead-end because my fear is that these systems could divide us between quantum computing haves and have-nots, thus allowing rogue states, totalitarian regimes and non-state actors who have access to the technology to violate the privacy of ordinary citizens or steal their data for various nefarious purposes if that data is passed over an internet connection, which is increasingly the case.
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Deportations and Assaults on Human Dignity

The felony charges against Donald Trump were nothing but political.

Everyone could see the writing on the wall except the left who like to keep referring back to the
34 felony convictions.
You do not have trust in our legal system. And you give a free pass to him.
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Fitness/Diet Accountability Thread

I used to do powerlifting at a public gym then switched to my home gym 2 months ago due to the place being so crowded. Until last week I only had a womens Olympic bar so I was limited on the amount of weight I could put on there (due to the size of the collars) with my thick bumper plates.

But then I found a nice fancy mens Olympic bar at one of my local amazon auctions. This allows me to load up the weight properly for my favorite exercise: box squats. So yesterday I got up to 415 for 5 reps on box squats and it felt great. I was actually surprised to have retained strength for the heavy weights after not training that way in over 2 months. Back then I was doing 450 for 5, but to do 415 and it not feel bad seems like a great place to start.

Now my goal is to push past my 510 max by the end of the year!
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Listen to God and Eat What is Good

“Come, everyone who thirsts,
come to the waters;
and he who has no money,
come, buy and eat!
Come, buy wine and milk
without money and without price.
Why do you spend your money for that which is not bread,
and your labor for that which does not satisfy?
Listen diligently to me, and eat what is good,
and delight yourselves in rich food.
Incline your ear, and come to me;
hear, that your soul may live;
and I will make with you an everlasting covenant,
my steadfast, sure love for David.” (Isaiah 55:1-3 ESV)

Whenever I read this passage of Scripture in Isaiah 55, it reminds me of Jesus’ words to the church in Laodicea in Revelation 3:18-19:

“I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, so that you may be rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself and the shame of your nakedness may not be seen, and salve to anoint your eyes, so that you may see. Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent” (in context, read Revelation 3:14-22).

So, what does it all mean? For this is speaking largely figuratively and not of literal food and drink and garments and salve, etc. What is the spiritual condition of the people in Isaiah’s passage? In the passage in Revelation? And how can we apply these messages to our lives and to the church and to the world today? How can we relate the times in which we now live to the messages God was giving to the people through Isaiah and through John?

In both cases these messages were spoken to people who professed to be of God, to be his people, but who were not living up to God’s standard of righteousness. So God was calling them to repentance, to have a change of mind and heart and behavior consistent with one who is following Jesus Christ with his life. This was a call to leave their fleshly lives behind them and to now live holy and morally pure and upright lives for the glory and praise of God and for genuine salvation from sin and eternal life with God.

In our world and church today this would be speaking of people who give lip service to God only but who do not follow him in walks of obedience to his commands and in holy living. Or they may be those of genuine faith in the Lord who have wandered from the truth, or who have fallen back into sin, or who have become spiritually lazy and slothful and nonchalant about their relationships with the Lord and their walks of faith and obedience to him. So they need a fire lit under them to bring back that passion for the Lord.

This is a call to full surrender of our lives to Jesus Christ, to walk in his ways and in his truth and righteousness, and to leave our lives of sin behind us. And this is a call to walks of obedience to our Lord and to his commands and to no longer walk in sin or to play with sin, gambling that God will still let us into his heaven even if we live for the flesh and walk in sin and ignore him and his commands. And we need to take this to heart, for if sin is what we practice, and not obedience to God, we will not inherit eternal life with God.

For God’s grace, which is bringing us salvation, is training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives while we wait for Jesus’ return. For Christ “gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.” “For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.” (See Titus 2:11-14; Ephesians 2:8-10)

We, as God’s holy people, are to be those who hunger and thirst after righteousness and holiness, and who long for the Word of the Lord that we may walk in his truth. We are to be diligent in persevering in our walks of faith and obedience to our Lord and to not be slothful and nonchalant. Our lives are to be committed to walks of obedience to our Lord and to no longer walking in sin, and to letting the Holy Spirit lead us each day in his truth and in what our Lord would have us do in service to him for his purposes.

We should be passionate about God’s word and about obeying our Lord and about living the truth of the gospel and about sharing that truth with others so that they can come to know him, too. And that truth is that Jesus died and was raised from the dead that we might die to sin daily and walk in obedience to his commands in holy living. That is the essence of the gospel message, but it includes the fact that if obedience to our Lord is not our practice, but if sin is still our practice, we will not enter the kingdom of God.

Now, with regard to the words, “without price” or “without cost,” we should not take these words to mean that there is no cost to us at all if we decide to believe in Jesus Christ and to follow him with our lives. While it is true that Jesus Christ paid the price with his death on that cross for our freedom from sin, it is not true that nothing is expected of us or that there will be no cost to following Jesus with our lives. Can anyone of us come to faith in Jesus Christ of our own accord? No! Only as God the Father draws us to Christ.

For all throughout the New Testament, Jesus and his NT apostles told us of the cost of following Jesus with our lives. We will be hated and persecuted as Jesus was hated and persecuted. And if truly we are obeying our Lord in doing what he says we are to do, as his followers, we are to be speaking the truth of his word to each other, in love. And we are to be telling all people that they must die to sin and obey our Lord, in practice. So, we are going to be rejected, cast aside as unwanted, and even killed for our faith.

[Matthew 5:10-12; Matthew 10:16-25,34-39; Matthew 24:9-14; Luke 6:22-23; Luke 12:49-53; Luke 21:12-17; John 15:18-21]

Biblical faith in Jesus Christ means to be persuaded of God. And what does God persuade us to do? He persuades us to deny self, die daily to sin, and to follow him in walks of obedience to his commands. For, if we hold on to our lives of living in sin and for self, we will lose them for eternity, regardless of what our lips profess. But if for Jesus’ sake we deny self (lose our lives), die daily to sin, and follow him in walks of obedience to his commands, by the grace of God, we have the hope of eternal life with God (see Luke 9:23-26).

Gospel:[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

Living Water

An Original Work / November 21, 2013
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love
Based off Various Scriptures


My people have forsaken Me,
Their Savior, who died on a tree;
Made idols, and they worshipped them;
So empty, they will ne’er fulfill.

Lord, You are the hope of Your chosen ones.
Those who turn away from You will be shamed;
The Spring of Living Water left behind.

Living Water satisfies.

The thirsty, let them come and drink;
Believe in Jesus as their King;
The gift of Jesus given them,
So they will never thirst again.

Indeed, the Living Water flows within.
It springs up like a fountain cleansing sin.
Eternal life in heaven promised them.

Living Water glorifies.

Oh people, won’t you come to Him?
Obey Him and repent of sin.
Let Jesus come and live within.
Surrender all your life to Him.

My people, won’t you turn your hearts to Me?
Forsake your idols and then you’ll be free.
Won’t you come now to Me on bended knee?

Living Water sanctifies.

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Listen to God and Eat What is Good
An Original Work originally posted on October 15, 2024
Reposted (with slight editing) on October 5, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love


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