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Kingdom of Israel restored on Pentecost.

Solomon sins, and Israel splits into two. The northern kingdom sins, and they are exiled. Ask chat GTP to show all the OT prophecies about restoring the kingdom to Israel, reuniting all the tribes, rejoining the southern, and northern kingdoms, and then ask chat GPT how it happened on Pentecost. The remnant was regathered from all nations on Pentecost, the Davidic kingdom of Israel was restored (Hosea said it would happen without violence, and Jesus kingdom is not of this world), 3000 believed in Jesus, and will live in the new Jerusalem the promise land forever. All lost sheep of the house of Israel was saved via belief in Jesus by 70 AD when the fullness of the nations came in aka Romans destroyed Jerusalem or by 62 AD when Colossians 1:23 had been written, and "the gospel has been preached to the whole world", and the maximum number of Greco Romans had converted to Christianity. Spiritual circumcision via belief in Jesus Christ replaced cutting the penis as the sign of the Abraham covenant. Belief in Jesus makes someone born again, and become a descendent of Abraham Isaac, and Jacob which replaced physical ancestry. The new Jerusalem replaced the old Jerusalem as the promise land which is why Christians are Jews Israel Abrahams seed heir to the blessing etc Romans 2:28-29 Galatians 6:16, 3:29. The synagogue of satan do not believe in Jesus so are none of those things, and are not Israel despite their lies. They are not Jews aka Gods chosen people. Jew= Judean living in Judah where the God of Abraham lived in a temple. So Judean= faithful to the God of Abraham. Adam, and Eve were Jews same with Abel but not Cain he was from satan. Which is why Christians are Jews. No other way to be faithful to the God of Abraham other than believe in Jesus. Anything else is a different gospel. The third temple the church the Israel of God was born in a day on Pentecost (isaiah 66) . God does not close up the womb because people keep getting born again. It is sin for Christians to support promote , and defend the synagogue of satan, and their country. Jesus said they are blind, and should be ignored not promoted. Worse than that their country is the beast country in Rev 13, and the mark is the hexagram. Will post on that another time if I dont get banned for this
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Yehudi/ yehudim in masoretic hebrew= Judaean/Jew living in Judah in the OT Judea in the NT. First appears 732 BC in 2 kings 16 6 when there is a civil war going between the southern, and northern kingdoms. Ioudaios is the greek word Judean in the septuagint, and NT. Jew-ish. Ish is Germanic, and means like something so judean-ish. Appears only once in the entire KJV 1 titus 14 don't give head to jewish fables. Comes from a derivitive of the greek word for Judean. Judaism also from greek ,and appears only in Maccabees in the septuagint, and in context means the law of Moses. Appears 1-2 times in the NT both times in context of Paul persecuting the church according to his old religion of the traditions of his fathers aka the leaven of the pharisees commandments of men that make the word of God the law of Moses of none effect so basically it is satans religion in that context not Moses religion. So Judaism can mean two different things biblically, and is a confusing word so I don't use it same with jewish. I don't use Jewish either due to confusion. All English bibles in Romans 2 28 29 have Jew. Christians are actually Judeans not Judean-ish but real Judeans. I suppose the synagogue of satan religion is Jew-ish meaning their religion kind of looks like the OT Judeans religion on the outside with claiming they follow the torah of Moses, some feast festival things loosely based on the OT etc- but they are lying they are the synagogue of satan. Ask chat GPT about the etymology of those words. Goyim/goy ethnos/ethne= nations but mostly means non Israelite nations in the bible. If someone defines gentile to mean people not in covenant with the God of Abraham then all non Christians are gentiles. The NT calls the synagogue of satan dogs evil doers, and mutilators of the flesh. Philippians 3:2. They are outside the covenant.

Jude, and 1 Enoch

Everything I said is correct. Revelation is in chronological order, and Rev 13-22 is future. The new Jerusalem coming down to new physical heavens and earth, final judgement lake of fire in rev 20-22 is future still. Rev 13-22 won't happen until 4400-4500 AD based on 1 Enochs 10,000 year starting at creation 5500 BC prophecy.
Whatever the abomination of desolation was mentioned by Jesus happened 70 AD. He was referencing the one in Dan 9, and 12 both ended 70 AD. Dan 8 ended in Maccabees, and Dan 11 ended before 70 AD whenever it was. . The man of sin in Thes had to happen before 70 AD whatever it was. The believers body is the temple of God now.
The language about mountains is found in the old testament too. Paste 1 Enoch 1:1-9 into chat GPT, and ask it to show all the same language from the OT. In some cases it is metaphor for judgement other cases literal eg earthquakes the day Jesus died, and more leading up to 70 AD. All the stuff chat GPT will show was about the Babylonian or Maccabean judgements in the OT but some was about 70 AD too. Jesus about 70 AD-
Luke 21:22 NIV
For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written.

There are NO issues with what I said. Rev 13-22 is future still.
Christians are supposed to love neighbor, and God help the poor sick needy etc or teach the bible preach. Not supposed to love money and focus on worldly gain.
The last kingdom of Daniel 2, and 7 is still future. It overlaps with Rev 13. It is the country "Israel", and the mark of the beast is the hexagram.
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Evolution conflict and division

Belief in things unseen seems to be the problem.
God doesn't seem to think so:

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.

Fortunately, evolutionary theory is based on evidence of confirmed predictions of the theory. Would you like to learn about some of those?
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Do you keep the Sabbath? (poll)

How could an Israelite be saved by the Old Covenant Law? The Old Covenant was never about salvation. All the Law could do was point out sin. Only Jesus saves.

How are Jews who have not accepted Jesus any different than the rest of humanity? Gal3:
19 Why, then, was the law given at all? (to Israel) It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was given through angels and entrusted to a mediator. 20 A mediator, however, implies more than one party; but God is one.

21 Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law. 22 But Scripture has locked up everything under the control of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.


In Matt 5, we read that Jesus came to fulfill (bring an end) the prophecies concerning His coming. In the same sentence, he also claimed the same for the Law. Doesn't that mean that during His time on Earth He ratified the New Covenant? The New Covenant then had to supersede the Sinai covenant. The Sinai covenant could not save one soul. It could only point out sin. Every living soul can hear the Word and claim the promises that Jesus made in the New and better Covenant. The Old Sinai Covenant is now history. No one is subject to a covenant that ended at Calvary.

To all who believe they are still under the guidance of the old covenant I would point you to Gal5:21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— 26 he did it to demonstrate his righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.

What good would it be for Jews to still under laws that Jesus brought to an end? Gentiles are not under those Law, and we find Jesus.
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Minnesota is drowning in fraud.

Did how did I know what article and authors were referenced? Prophecy?
I was referring to the article that I posted which you quoted. I am also referring to the article which said 500 Minnesota government workers are whistleblowers about the billions dollars fraud committed by Somalians in Minnesota.
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How Can People Get Confused with Christianity and Nazism?

To put it simply, it's because
I've been thinking about the stark contrast between Christianity and Nazism, yet I've noticed that some people seem to conflate the two. One promotes love, forgiveness, and humility, while the other is rooted in hatred, domination, and prejudice.

Context: One prays, the other preys.

How is it possible for individuals to draw parallels between these two ideologies? Could it be due to historical misinterpretations, propaganda, or a misunderstanding of faith itself? I'd love to hear your thoughts on this confusing juxtaposition.

  • What examples can you share that highlight these misconceptions?
  • How can we better educate others on the true message of Christianity in light of such conflation?
  • What role do you think social media plays in perpetuating these misunderstandings?
Looking forward to a thoughtful discussion!
el3venS1x (Dell)
To put it simply, it's because satan wants to conflict the idea of us Christians being part of the new world by God's grace and thinking that people can earn their salvation to try to earn bringing a new heaven and earth by our own will. Also for some strange reason, it appears that satan's idea of "Nazism" is being pushed around a lot instead of just being honest about what national socialism was in Germany and how that effected the world at the time. Also, in the purist sense of the term "Christian Nationalism" is technically necessary for today since I think it a good thing for people in society to be proud of being a part Zion/Israel/Jerusalem/God's Holy City by God's Will.
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Father, sons drowned teen daughter over her ‘Western lifestyle’

I think almost all countries have a Constitution. The thing that actually enables totalitarian states of the left or the right and irrespective of religion, is single party rule.
There is an obscure island off the coast of France that doesn't have one.
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Why we are not supposed to keep the Sabbath

Before Moses read the book of the covenant in v7 (the reference is in Ex 24 not 34) v3 "Moses came and told the people all the words of the Lord and all the judgments. And all the people answered with one voice and said, “All the words which the Lord has said we will do.”". These are all the words in Ex 20-23. So what part of of 20-23 is of God and which parts are of Moses?
This was addressed in post #863 the clear Scripture breaks this down for us.
I'm not "adding to the 10" the 10 still remain 10 but the point is they do not act alone and are a part of a greater covenant.
If no more was added to the Ten Commandments Deut5:22 and told its the whole law, so how are they part of a “greater covenant”. No more added means they are the greater covenant all by Itself without man having to make it complete.

You have too many posts you've left uncommented regarding this passage but keep on going like it doesn't matter. Do you really want to properly go back and address the jots and tittles? Jesus was speaking of the Torah and the prophets (as he said so in v17) and jots and tittles are a strong indicator he is also speaking of scrolls of the Torah written with an later script that perfectly matches the expression over the tablets which are written with an archaic script that does completely doesn't fit the expression.
That’s interesting considering so much Scriptures I have posted has not been addressed. I typically will not address commentary.
Most of your posts have been just been your own commentary, I do not view commentary as the same as Scriptures.

I have addressed Mat5:17-30 many times. Basically all we need to do is read it just as Jesus speaks and allow Him to define which law He is speaking about, and not add our words like Jesus ever writing in scrolls with ink which is not in our Bibles, plus He already promised jots and tittles from the scrolls written with ink would end. Dan9:27 Heb10:1-10 2Cor3:3 so obviously that can’t be the Law He speaks of.

He quoted directly from the Law He was referring to from Ten Commandments and fulfilled what He promised to do Isa 42:21 magnify His righteous and eternal laws which He gave clear examples of Him doing so using two of the commandments from the Ten Commandments so no need to lean on our own understanding the Law He was referring to Mat5:19-30. And this Law was written on stone by God Himself Exo31:18 If a law was going to be eternal without editing, would it be one written by the Holy Spirit , God’s own written and spoken Testimony, or the laws written by man on paper. Sad this is even a debate. I think man has been taught to lower the works of God, where mans word are equal and above God’s when it comes to His holy, righteous and perfect law. It’s not an argument I will ever understand. People say in one breath thats not true but spend every post debating against the Law of God or trying to edit it, exactly what God told us not to, not a jot or tittle, God will not alter the words of His covenant Psa89:34 Deut4:13 Deut5:22 , because God means what He says and makes no mistakes, man does. This is what we need to understand and change our perspective. Not change the law of God to suit our lifestyle, that has never worked out for anyone in Scripture, Jesus tells us it won’t work out at His Second Coming Mat5:19-30 Mat7:21-23 Rev 2:14-15

I have supported my arguments with Scriptures, I am going to stick with that and move on and leave it as agree to disagree.
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"Make Money Not War: Trump’s Real Plan for Peace in Ukraine"


The title is from the Wall Street Journal, and the article there goes into the details of how the Russian/USA negotiations over Ukraine went down. Sorry that article is behind the paywall for non-subscribers ,so this Forbes article summarizes parts of it. Here is the WSJ link, you can get a few articles for free if you register.


Of course now there are reports that Russia and Ukraine cannot yet agree on the territory to be ceded. The EU too is also upset as the deal leaves them out concerning teh future of Ukraine. Of course the deal negotiated by Russian and the USA could create peace at least for some time but the land area seems to be a sticking point. The future also has alleged cooperation possibilities between Russia and the USA to share business interests in frozen Russian assets, the rebuilding of Ukraine and Antarctica among others.

The meetings were attended by Jared Kushne, Steve Witkoff, and Kirill Dmitriev. These poeple are far more financial than diplomatic, but the point is that they worked on this as a way to make money, while at the same time as stopping the war. I can't judge myself if this is diabolical, but it does present the possibility of all kinds of conflict of interests. As one WSJ commentor pointed out if you follow the logic it does not seem to add up:

"Putin strategy?
  1. Invade
  2. Gain Donetsk
  3. Lose 1M soldiers
  4. Use business deals as off ramp"

The WSJ attributes Dmitriev as suggesting "There were no limits to what two longtime adversaries could achieve." Even suggesting they could do joint missions in space, even bringing in SpaceX an Elon Musk company.

While this might sound innoccous to some Americans the point is that it was a deal for two; USA and Russia. Sure it stops the war in Ukraine, but it leaves the EU out, and even China to an extent to focus on one thing: making money. The article has drawn quite a bit of attention and just hours ago we see that Russia and Ukraine look far apart on this deal.

So lots of implications here for prayerful considerations.
The future relationship between the USA and the EU.
The ending or expansion of the war in Ukraine.
The use of the 200 billion or so of Russian asssets that are frozen in Brussels
The real goals of Putin and Trump
The role of the love of money and power in politics.

Are there demons who are partly human?

P.S. A couple of tidy-ups:
"For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels." (verse 10)
The citation is from 1 Cor. 11:10.

There is a theory that the wives of Noah's sons may have carried perverted DNA from before the flood...
However, scripture tells us that Noah's genealogy was untainted: "These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God." (Gen. 6:9). Perfect does not mean sinless; perfect refers not to Noah's behavior (e.g. the guy got drunk), but to the genetic status of his descendants.

And the need to tie this back to the OP:

Are there demons who are partly human?​

That which is corrupted is not eligible for salvation. No resurrected believer will hold anything in common with devils. (It was never intended that devils/demons would be eligible for salvation anyway.)

Finally, Jesus Christ told us that his return would be like it was in the days of Noah:

"the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?...But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (Mat. 24:1, 37-39)

IOW, malevolent beings will once again be walking the earth, doing the same things they were doing at the time of the flood. Are you ready?
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The New Testament begins in Acts not Matthew chapter one.

For the most part, yes, but there are distinctions. I made a second post that specifically dealt with Covenant instead of Testament. It's still awaiting moderator approval. Is this normal for all new members to need every post approved?

Not too sure about that procedure.

Because while the New Testament indeed began with the death of Christ, it does not follow that the New Covenant also began then.

It will be clearer if you read Hebrews 9 in the KJV, they differentiate between covenant and testament correctly.

And if you recall the Old covenant of Law, it started not when Moses was given the 10 commandments at Mount Sinai, it only started after the nation of Israel collectively agreed to fulfill the requirements at Exodus 24.

You quoted Pauline scripture in your posts but they are not referring to the Body of Christ under the New covenant.

Paul never said we are under Israel's new covenant, instead, he made it clear that those covenants belong to Israel (Romans 9:4).
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Game based on Bible passage about killing everything that breathes

Isn't that like me making a game with porn, and giving the player the option to choose whether or not they want to see nudity or not?
Do you see a difference?
Actually there is a hidden version of the game that is more explicit. It quotes Ezekiel 23 including verse 20 which I think could be considered pornographic (if the language is more literal like the NIRV rather than using euphemisms in the translation). It is $1 which limits it to people with access to payment systems and you need certain options enabled.
Groans and wailing leave it to the imagination of the audience, just as two people kissing, but the audience cannot see their lips, or two people naked under the covers, but the audience cannot tell if they have on underwear or not.
When we look at how things are censored, we get the idea that the makers are considering their audience, since they are not catering to people that love things that are shocking.

You know whom you are catering to, John, don't you?
Well the title is "Brutal Bible Bloodbaths" and the capsule shows a woman being sliced open vertically. If it didn't deliver blood and gore they might feel disappointed. Though on the other hand there is the option to turn off the blood and gore where they have a Y or N choice at the warning screen.
Also I got a negative review from a Christian about the lack of suffering. I don't want to get any more of those negative reviews. I wanted to point out that you aren't the target market.
...There are ways to make a game, or movie of the Bible without being graphic, and still let the audience know something is sinful, or some form of punishment has taken place.
Movie makers do it all the time.

It's usually up to the developer what they want to be seen, or not seen... promoted, or not promoted. Isn't that so?
Well I wanted to have a different approach to regular games about the Bible. I think the passages are shocking so the gameplay reflects that - in a cartoonish way (a bit like South Park). If the graphics were photorealistic it would be more shocking.
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Qumran cave 7 7q5 Mark 50 AD dead sea scroll fragment

Yeh I tried on a different browser not logged in, and nothing came up so I assume it takes some time to show up to others.
Yes, I can't see it yet .. maybe a permission problem still? Anyway, looking forward to reading it :) Be blessed .. !
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WHAT DOES PAUL. SAID OF Eph 1 : 4. !!

Glad to see you DAVE ~~

In. Eph. 1 :4 we were CHOSEN , BEFORD //. PRO. is a PREPOSTION

THE FOUNDATION //. KATABOLE , is in the GENITIVE CASE , IN. THE SIGNULAR and. the SIGNULAR means ONLY

CHOSEN ONE TIME ONLY

of the WORLD //. KOSMOS. and also in. the GENITIVE CASE also. in. the SINGULAR.

dan p
In Him...We were chosen in Him. One time was Jesus chosen. When we are in Him we are chosen with Him.
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