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lucypevensie · 2025-11-29T12:50:12-0600

Health care

lucypevensie · 2025-11-29T12:49:14-0600

(I start my 5-word sentence with the word “honey”)

Honey is nice on toast.

timothyu · 2025-11-29T12:46:33-0600

Dan1988 said:
No, He was sent to save the (elect of God only),

Luke 4: 43 but he said to them, “I must preach the good news of the kingdom of God to the other towns as well; for I was sent for this purpose.”

timothyu · 2025-11-29T12:38:44-0600

FredVB said:
Others should be loved as one loves one's self. The repentance was still there, which Jesus Christ was always speaking for concerning restoration to God. It is more than admitting to guilt which he did. He knew he was deserving of what he was getting. He recognized Jesus was one totally innocent, and recognized with faith he spoke from that Jesus had a kingdom which he was now going to, and with that confession asked Jesus in that position for what he might do on his behalf.

That's right, in the same way we need to admit our backwards ways and admit God's will is better than ours and we should seek to serve Him rather that ourselves and the adversarial world we have built.

7thKeeper · 2025-11-29T12:18:54-0600

Postvieww said:
She was no traitor! She was a victim.

No, a full blown traitor to her nation and her oath.

Say it aint so · 2025-11-29T12:11:42-0600

wing2000 said:
Trump is pardons convicted president who colluded with drug traffickers while his Secretary of War kills suspected drug runners on the high seas.....

"Kill them all"
As two men clung to a stricken, burning ship targeted by SEAL Team 6, the Joint Special Operations commander followed the defense secretary’s order to leave no survivors.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/11/28/hegseth-kill-them-all-survivors-boat-strike/

Trump's Banana Republic. Make Honduras Great Again! (yes, he actually wrote that on Truth Social).

And folks here were questioning why US military were seeking outside counsel regarding illegal orders.
And why that group in congress reminded them their code requires them to refuse illegal orders.

bbbbbbb · 2025-11-29T12:11:08-0600

The Liturgist said:
While that’s true, the situation here is literally the opposite: the Ethiopian Orthodox converting non-Christian Rastafarians away from their decadent and indulgent false religion to the true religion of Christ our God.

To be clear, Rastafarianism didn’t consist of Ethiopian Orthodox Christians who decided to reject 1600 years of Christian teaching in order to smoke massive amounts of marijuana and perform obnoxious Reggae music, but rather, consisted of Jamaicans who heard of Emperor Haile Selassie, and, contrary to the wishes of the Emperor, decided that he was God, for reasons derived mainly from the color of his skin and the connections between Ethopia and ancient Israel. Among Ethiopians the small Rasta community that immigrated there is not well regarded.

Neither the Emperor, nor the Ethiopian church, refused to take action, however - actions to evangelize the people of the Carribean, including the Rastas, were undertaken, and these have been very successful in converting many Rastas to Christ.

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Now that being said, Ethiopia did have, for several centuries, two schismatic, heretical sects which competed with the Orthodox for control of the church, both of which had seriously deranged teachings, however, through the grace of God, the Orthodox party associated with the Coptic Orthodox Patriarchate of Alexandria and most members of the Imperial household triumphed. But the schism was probably the worst one to happen to an Oriental Orthodox church since the Maronites broke away from the Syriac Orthodox Church in (many believe this was because the Maronites opted to embrace the Monothelite heresy being promoted at the time as a means of achieving EO-OO reconciliation, which resulted in St. Maximos the Confessor losing his tongue, and which also resulted in Pope Honorius I being the only legitimate Bishop of Rome (not counting anti-Popes) to ever be anathematized as a heretic by the Roman Catholic Church post-mortem).

Again, thank you for the excellent information. I did not intend to imply that Rastafarianism is a heretical offshoot of Ethiopian Orthodoxy, but merely a cult, not unlike the Mormons, which decided to adopt Christian trappings in order to provide some sort of legitimacy to their cult.

Perpetual Student · 2025-11-29T12:08:00-0600

rambot said:
Has he gone to any funeral of import? Didn't he attend a J6 funeral?

There's a pretty shocking list of funerals he didn't attend (Though I think he wasn't invited to some of them).

Who would want a guy with his thumb up near the grave of a loved one?

RDKirk · 2025-11-29T12:01:23-0600

Hans Blaster said:
I generally agree and I have the same concern that you express about subtly accepting the notion that any of this operation is within the 2001 AUMF. The overall Venezuela operation is not popular with the people. I suspect Congress can be turned toward the "Venezuela is not covered by AUMF" resolutions that have failed so far, but hearings on the "double tap" are a way to start that will eventually broaden. (I wouldn't be surprised if there are Senators who are using this as an entry path so they can publicly oppose the whole operation.)

As I said, the Pentagon itself should have both feet on the "double tap" accusation because that would be a clear-cut violation of the Law of Armed Conflict at the basic troop level. The Congress should not be involved at the level of figuring out who pulled the trigger...their involvement would come from how the Pentagon resolves that violation of the LOAC (presuming it actually happened). We don't need Congress investigating a problem the Pentagon is already charged by law to investigate.

But to the extent it keeps Congress from discussing the extent of the resolutions they've passed, it delays the resolution of the problem only they can resolve.

Jan001 · 2025-11-29T11:56:04-0600

Dave L said:
Here's the beauty in Imputation. God imputed Adam's sin to us. Then God Imputed our sin to Christ. And then Imputed Christ's righteousness to us. All according to Romans 5. But look how we made out. Jesus is God, so we now have the infinite righteousness of God worthy of all the blessings only God deserves!!

Baptism with water is what Jesus commanded in Matthew 28:18-20 and which we must receive to remove our sins from our souls. The Holy Spirit then abides in our souls after our sins (Adam's and our own) are removed. It is the Holy Spirit's presence that sanctifies us and keeps us sanctified. We are made holy and kept holy by the Holy Spirit's abiding presence.

1 Corinthians 6:11
And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

Washed - baptized
Sanctified - made holy
Justified - reconciled to God

Freth · 2025-11-29T11:55:30-0600

Hentenza said:
Not really. People read and interpret with the idea of defending their pet doctrines. Most have no clue how to eisegete a verse.

Jesus is the Lord of the sabbath. The early church knew that it was to celebrate the resurrection day not the day that Jesus was still dead.

In context:

Mark 2:27-28 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

The very reason Jesus calls Himself Lord of the Sabbath is because the Sabbath was made for man (therefore). Pointing directly to creation and the Sabbath sanctified. Sunday resurrection taking the place of the Sabbath is nowhere to be found anywhere in scripture.

"The early church knew," and took it upon itself to change the law of God (prophesied by Daniel 7:25) and make it of none effect (Matthew 15:1-9).

Jesus settles the issue concerning Sunday, which is a commandment of man not a commandment of God.

Matthew 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

hedrick · 2025-11-29T11:52:39-0600

I think there are multiple visions here:

Matthew likely sees some kind of eternal punishment for the wicked. I think Calvin is right, that it is unimaginable remorse from being excluded from the Kingdom.
The other Gospels are less clear. I agree with the video above that destruction is a possibility. But so is finite punishment.
Paul seems to be universalist. Commentaries universally try to avoid this. I find their arguments odd. I take 1 Cor 15:20ff to be his vision of the future, but it needs to be coupled with 1 Cor 3:12, which talks about passing through fire, with everything not built on Christ destroyed.

One assumption behind Paul's whole vision is that Sin is a power oppressing people. In the end Christ defeats the power of sin. Christ is the second Adam. "for as all die in Adam, so all will be made alive in Christ." In the end God will be all in all. You can explain away one or two statements like this, but it is a consistent them throughout Paul's writings. As I real 1 Cor 15:20 ff, things happen in order. First, those in Christ are raised. Then he defeats the enemy, and eventually death itself. Finally, everyone will be united in Christ, though 1 Cor 3:12 would qualify that by saying that this doesn't exempt people from judgement.

However I think it's safest to stick with Mark, Luke, and maybe John, and leave the nature of judgement a bit ambiguous.

Perpetual Student · 2025-11-29T11:48:55-0600

Landon Caeli said:
James Hansen predicted that burning all existing fossil fuels "would make most of the planet uninhabitable by humans"...

Which we haven't (yet), so Hansen's prediction doesn't apply.
Another thing to keep in mind is to check when a certain prediction was done and whether it was the best case scenario, the most probable or worst case scenario.
Prior to 2014 it was projected that we would cause a rise in temperature of 4°C for the year 2100. In 2015 the Paris Agreement was accepted targeting 1.5°C or maximum 2°C increase. Different measures taken have indeed lowered the expected warming from 4°C to 2.7°C by the year 2100. Still very bad, compare that with an obese person who has lowered its BMI from 40 to 37, that person will still have severe health issues, but less severe than if it stayed at 40.

I know most of the planet is not all the planet, so I guess Gates built kind of a strawman, but even then, sources say we've already burned half of earth's supply, and all we've seen so far are a couple tennis court size islands go underwater.

Which is only one consequence of global warming.
It is expected that a big area will be inhabitable due to heating, and that in an even bigger part of the world heat stress will cause a lower life expectancy.

Heat and health

Protecting health from rising temperatures and extreme heat - WHO factsheet on heat and health.

www.who.int

Heat stress and climate change: New report a call to action for workers' safety

The ITUC notes with deep concern the findings of the new WHO-WMO report, which highlights the growing risks of workplace heat stress due to escalating global temperatures. Climate change and workplace heat stress: technical report and guidance, outlines how heat is now one of the most dangerous...

www.ituc-csi.org

Besides that, if the lives and wellbeing of outdoor workers is of no concern, their economic productivity will decline also.

Climate change: How global warming is stressing people and the economy | AXA IM Corporate

High temperatures resulting from climate change continue to impact populations. Annually, 2.4 billion workers - over 70% of the global labour force –…

www.axa-im.com

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2212095524002682

https://www.ilo.org/sites/default/files/wcmsp5/groups/public/@dgreports/@dcomm/@publ/documents/publication/wcms_711919.pdf

concretecamper · 2025-11-29T11:45:16-0600

The Liturgist said:
No one alive today is entitled to call themselves an Apostle. If that were the case, then surely St. Clement, St. Ignatius of Antioch, St. Justin Martyr, St. Polycarp of Smyrna, St. Ireaneus of Lyons, St. Victor of Rome, St. Cyprian of Carthage, St. Gregory the Wonderworker, St. Gregory the Illuminator, St. Nino the Enlightener of the Georgians, St. Athanasius of Alexandria, St. Basil the Great, St. Gregory the Theologian, St. John Chrysostom, St. Cyril the Great, St. Cyril and Methodius, St. Herman of Alaska and others would be venerated as Apostles. As it happens, some, such as St. Nino, are venerated as Equal to the Apostles, and some such as St. Athanasius, are venerated as Apostolic.

However, there are bishops in Apostolic succession, both according to the definition of succession of St. Cyprian of Carthage which requires doctrinal orthodoxy for apostolic succession to be transmitted, and the definition of St. Augustine of Hippo, which does not.

Obviously some bishops are more deserving of the episcopate than others.

Additionally there are evangelists who have received a blessing from the Orthodox Church to preach, such as Billy Graham, memory eternal, who assisted the Russian Orthodox Church, the Georgian Orthodox Church, the Armenian Apostolic Church, and the other canonical Orthodox churches in the former Union of Soviet Socialist Republics by preaching there, with the blessing of the Patriarchate of Moscow, for during the Soviet Union, the churches therein were prohibited from catechizing the youth, preaching became dangerous, and many parishes were closed so accessing church became very difficult, and in some cities there was no church at all*.

Thus, with the blessing of the Russian Orthodox Church, Billy Graham did a great service for the Christians of the former Soviet Union, by preaching throughout; his popularity was such that the Soviets dared not interfere without embarrassing themselves on the world stage.

But Billy Graham did not claim the title of Apostle; this title has only been used to refer to the Twelve (including St. Matthias, ordained to replace Judas Iscariot), the Seventy and St. Paul. Self-appointed Apostles are always a red flag; no traditional denomination has allowed anyone to claim such a title.

*for example, in Pripyat, although there was an Orthodox church nearby in Chernobyl, which survived the disaster, has miraculously low radiation levels and is still open for liturgy, the only operational church in the Exclusion Zone.

Saint Innocent of Alaska is referred to as an Apostle in the Russian Orthodox Tradition.

Also, we cannot argue that the 318 Fathers at Nicea were not guided by the same Holy Spirit, in equal measure to those 120 at Pentecost. Ignatius, ordained by Peter, carried on the Catholic faith at Antioch. Are we to believe that Ignatius was somehow inferior? On the contrary. Ignatius led the Church in Antioch with no less authority or affect than Peter.

Apostolic Succession is precisely what it says

rjs330 · 2025-11-29T11:43:58-0600

FenderTL5 said:
He didn’t mention that the shooter failed to cooperate with police, just as someone trained in CIA protocols and somehow, inexplicably, he failed to mention this man had been granted legal asylum by the Trump administration this past April.

Or as trained by Islamists who hate America. And the fact he was an asylee, is a stain upon the administration that let him in and the one that granted him asylum. Its a clear failure and just another reason why we need to be highly skeptical of anyone who wishes to come here from an Islamic country. Particularly the men.

Jan001 · 2025-11-29T11:40:36-0600

Abraham1st said:
......They are called unto liberty, but they use it as occasion to the flesh, BITING AND DEVOURING ONE ANOTHER, CONSUMED OF NE ANOTHER, instead of LOVING YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOURSELF. ( they do not hear the word of faith, to WALK IN THE SPIRIT, as we see they were caught up in the LUST OF THE FLESH.)

If you truly love your neighbor as yourself, you will not harm your neighbor in any way.
You will only do good to him instead of evil.
If you are truly doing good to him, you cannot sin against him.

Belk · 2025-11-29T11:39:58-0600

Huh. Who could of guessed putting anti-intellectual ideologists in charge of a system of education would lead to a poor outcome?

Jan001 · 2025-11-29T11:28:26-0600

Douggg said:
In Matthew 24:32-34, Jesus said to learn the parable of the fig tree to know the time of His return. That generation would not pass away without seeing Jesus's return.

The fig tree represents Jerusalem, as Jesus cursed a fig tree beside the road for not having fruit as he and the disciples were entering Jerusalem the week he would be crucified, rejected by his own people the Jews.

In 1967, the Jews regained control of Jerusalem.

1967 + 70 years for a generation (Psalms 90:10) = 2037. Jesus will return by the end of 2037, not later than. We are living in the end times.

Jesus will not return bodily to earth until the time of the resurrection of the dead and the final judgment. 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17, 1 Corinthians 15:52

However, Jesus spiritually returned in judgment against the unbelieving Jews in Jerusalem in 70 AD. It was this spiritual return of Jesus that fulfilled his prophecy. From his throne in heaven, he enabled the Roman armies to destroy these wicked Jews. This prophecy was fulfilled in 70 AD. Jesus said it was this generation that would not pass away until it was fulfilled.

Matthew 23:26-37

Luke 21:20-24 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation has come near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, and let those who are inside the city depart, and let not those who are out in the country enter it; 22 for these are days of vengeance, to fulfil all that is written. 23 Alas for those who are with child and for those who give suck in those days! For great distress shall be upon the earth and wrath upon this people; 24 they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led captive among all nations; and Jerusalem will be trodden down by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.....32 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away till all has taken place. 33 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.

stevevw · 2025-11-29T11:18:00-0600

Hans Blaster said:
As I've said before, I often skip your long convos with other posters to reserve the time I can spend here to actual interactions with me (or other threads), so I didn't see this comment originally, and only saw it after scrolling past your later post this morning the words "Higgs boson" caught my eye. The Higgs interjection came from @Stopped_lurking used the search for the Higgs as an example to what they thought you were indicating. When I ask my questions below, I am not directly looking for the Higgs thing (as it wasn't your example), nor the pyramid EM focusing models from which this arose, but I ask a more general question.

What do you mean that modeling for theoretical physics is not replicated by is still accepted? Do you have specific examples or categories in mind? I ask for those of us who work in modeling systems in theoretical physics.

Well if you work in physics its understandable that 'Higgs' caught your eye.

Um I mean exactly what it says. Take even the Standard Model of Cosmology. There are anomelies but its still accepted because it fits the data. At one point it was the BB and then it was Inflation theory to help reconcile quantum physics. But even this has problems. But theorectically the modelling stands up and aspects have been verified enough to continue to support this until too much counter data undermines it.

The same with Evolution theory. Its not completely mapped out and there are some glaring anomelies. The idea of Genetics and random changes as the sole means of variation and NS as the sole means of selection are being undermined. Yet its accepted theorectically despite ongoing tests to verify these anomelies.

Because the modelling stacks up and works in other ways to be confident that it will stand up over time when further testing is done.

The point being that theory and modelling are part of the process. The modelling will usually stand up because it is itself based on proven fieled tests. If there is nothing wrong with the modeling then it should also be the case in reality. So in the meantime the modelling of done well is still part of good science and should not be dismissed as nothing.

orbiter · 2025-11-29T11:15:31-0600

Peace in Christ.

Why seek the living among the dead….the dead man-based churches where they are continuing to serve the sin and are mortally perishing to the grave?

He is not there among them for He is risen.

He is alive now so that we might have His risen life now in our mortal bodies. Jesus died in our place. He died in the flesh and was resurrected in the flesh so that our mortal flesh is made alive by Him as His life is to be made manifest there.

Don’t believe the man-based preaching of their covenant with death and their agreement with the grave. The Son of God comes to give us an understanding so that their lies and deceptions are swept away as He opens up the Scriptures to our understanding.

The “two men” in shining garments = Moses and Elijah = the Law and the prophets. We are to hear Him (Jesus) as He opens up their words to our hearing ears.

Luk 24:
(3) And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.
(4) And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:
(5) And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead?

Jesus IS RISEN. He is not in the dead man-based churches where they are all mortally perishing because they continue to serve the sin. Jesus is alive now so that we might have His life now in our mortal flesh.

(6) He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee,

Yet, no flesh is being saved in the man-based churches where the Son of man is being given up into the hands of sinful men who are actively preventing His life from ever being made manifest in the mortal flesh of their deceived congregations.

(7) Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.

The “princes of this age”….our church rulers….are actively NOW crucifying His life (the Lord of glory) from being made manifest in this earth. The come to nothing as their end is destruction of the flesh. “world” = age.

1Co 2:6-8
(6) Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world (AGE), that come to nought:
(7) But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world (age) unto our glory:

The “Lord of glory” is already RISEN NOW to glory. But, they are actively crucifying the Lord of glory from this earth in their ignorance of the gospel of the glory of Jesus. His manifest glory life is not being made manifest in the mortal flesh of those they are deceiving….who are perishing away mortally to the grave without this manifestation.

(8) Which none of the princes of this world (AGE) knew: for had they known it, they would not crucify the Lord of glory.

The Prince of life is being “killed” from this earth who God has ALREADY RAISED FROM THE DEAD. We are denying the Holy One and the Just when we choose “another jesus” that the princes of this age are preaching to us.

Act 3:14-17 KJV
(14) But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;
(15) And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.
(16) And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.

In ignorance though do we do this ….as do our church rulers….the princes of this age… which come to nothing as their end is destruction of the flesh.

(17) And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers.

The “princes of this age” are serving only for their own belly (they preach themselves only)…which is the “god of this age” ….and so their minds are blinded to the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ who is the image of God.

This knowledge of the gospel does NOT enlighten them. They have no understanding of it. If they did, they would be preaching it to their congregations so that they may manifest His light to the people of the outside world.

2Co 4:3-7 KJV
(3) But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost (PERISHING):
(4) In whom the god of this world (AGE) hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
(5) For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.

We are to shine the glory of God to the people of the outside world (who are in deep darkness) in the face of Jesus Christ that we with “open face” reflect and manifest to them so that they may “see” Him through us and be saved. The light within us is to shine forth to the people of the outside world giving them the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ whom we are to reflect to them so that they may "see" Him through us.

(6) For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

This is not about “dying and going to heaven” (as currently being taught by all man-based churches)…this is about having His life NOW in our mortal flesh…in this “earthen vessel.” We have this treasure in “earthen vessels.”

(7) But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

Now if we are dead with Christ (dying to the sin…being freed from the sin), we believe we shall also live with Him…for He is RISEN NOW so that we might have His life NOW in this mortal body.

Rom 6:4-11
(4) Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
(5) For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
(6) Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of THE (definite article) sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve THE sin.

He that is “dead” is freed from the sin. This is our “death” now.

(7) For he that is dead is freed from THE sin.

Now if we are dead (from serving the sin) with Christ, we believe also that we shall LIVE with Him.

Christ gives our mortal flesh His life so that we do NOT mortally die for He is ALIVE NOW…He is risen. He has already tasted mortal death for us so that we do not die. He has ALREADY mortally died in our place so that we do not have to die.

(8) Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

Christ is already raised from the dead and dies no more. Death has no more dominion over Him.

We also are to reckon ourselves to be “dead” unto THE sin but ALIVE mortally unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Death has no more dominion over our mortal bodies because Christ does not die any more. Remember that Jesus died in the mortal flesh and was also resurrected in the mortal flesh in this earth.

(9) Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
(10) For in that he died, he died unto the sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
(11) Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto THE sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

His life is not being found among the man-based churches where they are crucifying the Lord of glory as His life and glory is not being seen among them. Yet, MANY are thinking that He is there among the transgressors. He is not there.

He was reckoned among the transgressors 2000 years ago. What was written was accomplished in Him at that time. He is no longer among the transgressors as this prophecy was COMPLETELY fulfilled at that time.

Luk 22:37-38 KJV
(37) For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.

The two swords show us that this prophecy had a definite beginning and a definite end. He is NO LONGER among the transgressors....the man-based churches. You will not find Him among them for He is RISEN now. If He is alive now, we are to have His life now in our mortal flesh. We do not see His life being made manifest in any man-based churches. So He is not there among the dead man-based churches where they are actively crucifying the Lord of glory who is already risen to glory and sits at the right hand of God.

(38) And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.

The Scripture was completely fulfilled 2000 years ago. We should not be numbering/estimating/reckoning that He is among the transgressors today. He is not among the man-based churches.

Mar 15:27-28 KJV
(27) And with him they crucify two thieves; the one on his right hand, and the other on his left.
(28) And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors.

But in the minds of many (a place called "Golgotha"....the place of a skull...where the mind is located) they do crucify the Lord of glory for they are reckoning that He is among the transgressors to this day .

Mat 27:33-35 KJV
(33) And when they were come unto a place called Golgotha, that is to say, a place of a skull,
(34) They gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when he had tasted thereof, he would not drink.
(35) And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.

Hans Blaster · 2025-11-29T11:11:37-0600

another_lost_guy said:
No but the idea that the universe centers around one country is.

That isn't science, it is delusion, and I dont' think even the world centers on my country. I, personally, am mostly interested in the current events and politics of my own country as it takes too much time to track everything everywhere. I have also some lesser focused interests in a few other countries, but Christians are oppressed in any of those either.

another_lost_guy said:
And I answered too, and you eventually revealed that you were never actually open to discussion by saying it was impossible to truly know someone else's motive

Mass shooters have particularly disordered minds and their "manifestos" (when written and available) are messy jumbles of things from which it is difficult to find any organizing principle or motive.

My original inquiry arose from Steve's claim that Christians were being murdered *for believing* and when I asked him to give an example, he did -- Charlie Kirk. (Steve is usually good about answering such inquiries, which is part of why I engage him in conversation.) I already stated my disagreement with the assessment that Kirk was killed for *his belief in God*, rather than for other things. You could engage with that disagreement if you like, instead you inject school shootings, most of which are perpetrated by current or former students.

another_lost_guy said:
I've been given no evidence to the contrary on any of my claims

Not at all.

Sure I did. I mistook this as a thread in American politics where I often post. I was not dissuaded from that notion as all posts above mine were full of references to US history and politics. [If you see the "path" at the top of the page you can use that to navigate the site. Clicking on the "Politics" will take you to the page containing all of the politics sub-fora (including this one and the US politics one). In the entry for each forum there is on the right side a link for the latest post in each forum. If you go up one more level you will see a single entry of all of politics (next to other links to the science forum, the current events forum, etc.) and the same entry for the most recent post in all of the politics section. I likely saw this thread there and clicked on it out of curiosity not realizing it was post to "general politics" rather than "US politics". It is the same way I end up in threads started by people on my "ignore list".

another_lost_guy said:
It's his thread. You seemingly follow this guy around wherever he goes.

I read nearly all threads in P&LS and reply to many of them.

another_lost_guy said:
Never said you did.

Yes, I understand what science is. Some of science's branches include anthropology, genetics, and sociology. For example, higher melanin production and hair phenotypes are all measurable factors in determining someone's race.

And if you knew anything about the subject you would know that there is no such thing as a biological race in humans. It is all social construct.

another_lost_guy said:
You certainly argue like one.

And you are but a youth. They key is to argue the points, not the man, or your perceptions of him based on a few simplistic labels.

another_lost_guy said:
I'm tired of individually debunking each of your claims though because every time you get something factually wrong like denying the existence of the sexual revolution or the persecution of Christians outside of America you just flat out ignore it instead of conceding

I mock the notion that the "sexual revolution" is an actual revolution. No governments were overthrown. It was a social movement.

As I've written a few times, I was never discussing persecution of Christians outside the US. I am well aware that Islamic countries exist. I have been steady in limiting my discussion to the US (or more broadly "the West") where the notion of "Christian persecution" is laughable.

Jan001 · 2025-11-29T10:53:25-0600

The Church is seen as the new Israel in a spiritual and covenantal sense, not in an ethnic or national one. It is a multi-ethnic, multi-national community united by faith in Jesus Christ, fulfilling the prophetic vision of Israel becoming a blessing to all nations.

I see the New Covenant olive tree to be the Christian people of God, regardless of ethnicity or national boundaries. The first covenant (Old Covenant) was fulfilled (finished, made obsolete) by Jesus' sacrificial death on the cross.

Akita Suggagaki · 2025-11-29T10:48:23-0600

Servus said:
McEntarfer was discharged for falsifying job numbers before the 2024 election in an attempt to boost Kamala Harris' chances of victory.

Not possible

PloverWing · 2025-11-29T10:48:04-0600

Apple Sky said:
I would have liked to have gone too a local gay pride parade & held up banner which said, ' Read Romans 1:27' I'm glad I didn't as a few of them were arrested.

Our town's street preacher does this each year at the town's pride festival. He picks I Corinthians 6:9-10 for his sign, but it's the same idea. In the US, this is protected speech, so he's legally allowed to be there with his sign as long as he's on public property and doesn't make the festival participants feel unsafe.

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