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Exclusive: The White House is looking to replace Pete Hegseth as defense secretary

Sure. Rubio. He's gone way, WAY out of his way to become a Trump sycophant. Frankly, it's kind of impressive how much he's sacrificed his former principles.

If you watch his expressions you’ll notice cracks in the facade. The operation in Iran is a good example. He was forcing himself to be expressionless when Trump spoke and it looked unnatural. While JD was the most relaxed followed by Pete.

~bella
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The Brokenness of Christianity

A relationship with God is the most important. This helps keep you safe against false doctrine. My attitude in scripture is, I let go of all my preconceived notions of what people tell me scripture says, and if it's truth, when I look into it and research for the answer, I will eventually come full circle. If God takes me in another direction, then I'll follow that until I reach an end point. This is why I say a relationship is most important because without one, where is my guidance and direction? I trust that the Lord will guide and direct me and I don't need a pastor to explain to me what the verse tells me... If they're correct, then the Lord will show me they're correct and if they aren't, then I can ignore them. People put WAY too much stock in spiritual leaders. We have but ONE teacher and that is Christ.
Christianity is not broken. We are. That includes every single one of us. Taking Christianity and warping it is done by us. It’s not just within Churches as is so often said but how people interpret it when they are alone in a room claiming to need nothing but their Bibles and private interpretations.
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Israeli hostage's sister rebukes Greta Thunberg for using starving brother's image in propaganda post

The sister of Israeli hostage Evyatar David has rebuked Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg for using a photo of her starving and frail brother in a social media post accusing Israel of mistreating Palestinian prisoners.

Thunberg, who was among hundreds of activists from the Gaza-bound Global Sumud Flotilla deported from Israel on Monday, shared a graphic on her Instagram earlier this week that featured pictures of Palestinians detained by Israel.

One of the slides featured in the graphic claims that many Palestinians held in Israeli detention “have been taken from their homes, held in brutal conditions, tortured, silenced, and forgotten by the world that claims to care about human rights.”

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Evil Is Not the Opposite of Good, It Is the Opposite of Truth

In the moral sense, it also incorporates hatred. On occasion I've seen what I think were demonic faces on people, and something that seems to come through even more than evil is a sense of hatred.

I've never been a fan of the "absence of good" as the whole explanation for evil.

Hatred involves the will, not a mere absence of a moral quality.
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Trump’s Israel-Hamas peace plan is a big deal: All hostages coming home

Israel’s war in Gaza moved one step nearer to resolution on Wednesday, when Hamas and Israel both agreed to “the first phase” of President Donald Trump’s peace plan. “This means that ALL of the Hostages will be released very soon, and Israel will withdraw their Troops to an agreed upon line,” Trump wrote Wednesday afternoon on Truth Social. “This is a GREAT Day for the Arab and Muslim World, Israel, all surrounding Nations, and the United States of America.”

The agreement covers “all terms and mechanisms for implementing the first phase of the Gaza ceasefire agreement, which will lead to stopping the war, releasing Israeli detainees and Palestinian prisoners, and allowing aid to enter,” said Qatari Foreign Ministry spokesman Majed al-Ansari.

While public pronouncements are light on details, Israeli officials expect the simultaneous release of all the living hostages within 72 hours, likely on Monday. The clock starts, and the ceasefire officially begins when the deal is ratified by the Israeli government.

Israel also insists on Hamas returning the bodies of all deceased hostages, although Hamas claims that will take longer to achieve, as some of the bodies are buried under rubble or lie behind the Israeli lines.

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Labor Dept warns Immigration Policies Threaten Stability of the Domestic Food Supply

The Labor Department warned in an obscure document filed with the Federal Register last week that “the near total cessation of the inflow of illegal aliens” is threatening “the stability of domestic food production and prices for U.S. consumers.”

Also, contradicting comments made by Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins that the U.S. farm workforce will become “100 percent American” as an effect of mass deportations, the Labor Department noted that Americans are not willing to step into farm work and lack the skills to fill agricultural jobs that undocumented immigrants are abandoning.

“The Department concludes that qualified and eligible U.S. workers will not make themselves available in sufficient numbers,” the agency said.

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"...the Department concludes, based on all available evidence and studies, that immediate reform to the H-2A program's minimum wage policy, or the AEWRs, is necessary to avoid imminent widespread disruption across the U.S. agricultural sector. Without prompt action, agricultural employers will face severe labor shortages, resulting in disruption to food production, higher prices, and reduced access for U.S. consumers, particularly to fresh fruit and vegetables. Further, the Department concludes that qualified and eligible U.S. workers will not make themselves available in sufficient numbers, even at current wage levels, to fill the significant labor shortage in the agricultural sector. As discussed in detail below, the reforms contained in this IFR of the H-2A program's wage policy are urgently needed to restore the usability of the H-2A program and to provide a practical, lawful workforce alternative to illegal aliens. These changes ensure that agricultural employers offer fair wages to legally authorized workers—consistent with wages paid in comparable farm and non-farm jobs—while maintaining compliance with immigration law and supporting the stability of the nation's food supply.


Imagine that? Americans are unwilling to harvest their own food.
Agree!
The shortsighted actions of Krist Noem is unfathomable. Trump has publicly suggested he would offer some leniency, like temporary deportation passes or legal work status, to undocumented immigrants working long-term in agriculture and other essential industries to prevent harm to those sectors. However, Noem and her team of special forces have intensified overall immigration enforcement, which includes these individuals.

To those who believe this is a good course of action, let us reason, please!
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anyone know anything about Gematria?

Starting from the first decimal place, the three numbers beginning at the 622301st place are π 222,
The word wisdom appears in 222 verses in the authorized King James Bible!

In π, this is the 606th occurrence of the number 222.

Referring to index position 606 of π, Φ and e, the numbers 8,8,8 appear

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The Greek name Jesus, Iésous, adds up to 888!

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Faith

You ever kindle a fire? There is a lot to it. Sometimes you could be at it for a while. It can get frustrating. IT IS WORK. Especially back then. Flipping a switch or turning a knob is not.
Nice evasion. The point God made was not the work entailed in taking wood, rubbing the flint to strike a spark and create a fire, but simply starting a fire by any means. You Pharisee, limiting yourself to the letter of the Law, while avoiding its actual intent!

I start fires every day. I have a gas-fired furnace which I used during winter months. I have a gas cooking stove which I use daily. I have a car with an internal combustion engine. The moment I hit the starter on the car I start the fire which propels the car.

One could evade this scenario, as many do, by using electricity instead of gas, but ultimately heat is being generated to provide the electric power. The nice thing is that the heat being generated is not being initiated on the Sabbath. The only niggling problem is that the end user is not using it constantly without interruption during the Sabbath and must initiate its use by starting the electric appliance.
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Palisades Fire live updates: Wildfires spread in Los Angeles, prompting mandatory evacuations, as Santa Ana winds expected to intensify

The photo is quite telling and reminds me of the scene at the end of the Joker film where chaos erupts and it amuses him. They were depicting the spirit of lawlessness and there’s a deeper meaning to evil clowns.

~bella

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Who then can be saved?

If you chose God, then you have something to boast about. You can tell your friends that you're wiser then they are because you chose God and eternal paradise, while your poor unbelieving friends chose to suffer in the lake of, fire for all eternity.
Or if you do don’t choose God, having been made into an elected automaton, you can glory in your election, I guess, while telling your friends that you’re luckier than they are because God chose you for Himself and eternal paradise, while your poor unbelieving friends He chose for suffering in the lake of, fire for all eternity.

Or, knowing of the vital importance of this choice you may, instead, desire and seek the right choice from and for your friends, as Paul did,

“We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God. God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.” 2 Cor 5:20
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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

Well, consider that we moved closer to the facts

Perhaps then, seeing how the perp messes with YOU (and I) how the Words of God describing the perp's exposure, demise and finality could apply directly to our own faces, just as Jesus rebuked Satan speaking from Peter

In other words the CONDEMNATION/WRATH/JUDGMENT/LoF scriptures are in fact our Best Friend

Surprise!
I just tell Him to go to hell. Why didn’t you quote that part of my post? Did you not have a response? You give the perp a bit more credit than He reserves. He has already been defeated so get off the pity party.
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Emergency abortion denials by Catholic hospitals put woman in danger, after her water broke at 17 weeks, lawsuit claims

Can cause! A rupture of the amniotic membrane does not always proceed to an infection and may heal allowing the pregnancy to continue. If infected, and even before signs of infection, antibiotics can be administered to prevent infection.

If the infection of the amniotic membrane does in fact occur and fulminates, Catholic hospitals bioethics do allow the administration of drugs to induce contractions of the mother's uterus in order to expel the infected membranes. Therapeutic interventions on the mother's body to save the mother's life are good. The death of the premature child is bad but tolerated under the principles of the Double Effect.
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Is 'once saved always saved' a biblical teaching?

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There is no such thing as a born again child of God loosing their Eternal life and going back to the state of being in spiritual death and facing the great white throne judgment and the second death.
For if we died with Him,
We shall also live with Him.
If we endure,
We shall also reign with Him.
If we deny Him,
He also will deny us.
If we are faithless,
He remains faithful;
He cannot deny Himself.


If a person is teaching the loss of Eternal Life of a born again child of God, they are teaching a lie.
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Discussion Andronicus and Junias Apostles.

Cessationism? It is an issue surrounding the belief that gifts and powers, offices go on today unstopped. I suppose I have heard some say the perfect thing to come, can't be Jesus and others that by interpretation it is Jesus. First 1 Corinthians 13:10 and then 2 Corinthians 4:6-7 and Revelation 22:1-2.
Most of the arguments I have heard that there can only be 13 Apostles comes from cessationists, trying to end elements of the Bible to whittle away at callings and gifts. If they can start casting doubt on the ongoing validity of one thing in scripture they can cast doubt on anything else. That, and they hate the people that they can categorize New Apostolic Reformation, so if they can call contemporary apostles heretics they can discredit them with one accusation. And people like Sproul and MacArthur made a lot of money holding anti-Holly Spirit rallies. Those 3rd resort homes don't pay for themselves
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AND HOW CHRIST FORMED THE BODY OF CHRIST !!

And I know why. you left OUT verse in Acts. 10:28.
I didn't leave out anything but apparently you do, vs 28 says: "... but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.", that's why Cornelius and the gentiles with him received holy spirit.

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