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On the topic of suffering...

And so a question to health providers .

How much time would you assume it would require for a daily hallucinations believer who associated with hallucinations for 6 months to get back to a non hallucinating lifestyle?

And can hallucinations be induced without the usage of hallucinogenic drugs?


And a question for members of church..

If a dog returns to his vomit and a sow to his sod, how likely a non repenting recoverer?

2 Peter 2:2 "But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire."


But seeing how certain interests are not always a disorder, such as dishonesty, of which if habitual and affecting others can be a disorder, how long of a time before that person returns to an honest way of daily living? A long time practicing thief, for example.



www.medicinenet.com/pathological_liar_vs_a_compulsive_liar/article.htm


So there is a benefit for not leaving far away from home and morals and honesty and a benefit for receiving Godly help to regain.


Which moves on to the next topic..

Matthew 5:13-16 "Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men."

Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house."


Okay. But if entering into another city or town...
Matthew 10:11 "And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, inquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence."


Okay.. so salt, light.. of the city/town... And when entering into another city or town, asking, inquiring who within is worthy...

Who was He addressing?

So who in your city is considered worthy to be trusted, to have time spent with, to be respected, to be cared for, etc.. ?

Those who have homes, families, responsibilities .. etc...

These are the salt, the light of that city.
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How is everybody?

I’ve been ok. I’m so done with summer! My parish has a school and regular activities throughout the year.
There's something I love about the energy this time of year when schools start up and we're transitioning from summer to fall.
Been doing pretty good. Been having some kidney issues since I had pneumonia in February and three surgeries. Everything seems good now as far as I know. My niece had lymphoma and she has finished treatment so keeping a close eye on that. We just lost my husband’s cousin to pancreatic cancer. Mom and MIL seem to be doing fairly well. My sister believe it or not is looking into the Catholic Church. She is still struggling with her mental issues unfortunately. We have a new priest that started last July. Everyone likes him and he seems to be very true to the Gospel and not so worried to conforming to world views as we so often see. How are things your way? :)
Wow 2025 sure has been loaded for you and your family. My goodness. Well, I'm glad things are looking better with your kidneys and I'm happy to hear that your sister is looking at Catholicism. Though, I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your husband's cousin.
Hey, Gnarly---good to see you! :)

It's been a wild and wooly summer. Momma had to go in for a total hysterectomy from April through July; she's on the mend. The kid started school, quit school, and is looking for a full-time job. He feels bad about dropping out, but I told him it is virtually impossible for a man to make a fatal career mistake before the age of 30 or so.....or at least, it didn't in my day, lol.

And me, well, I just get older and stiffer and unable to do more things as time goes on. I will be 65 on December 2nd, and I feel every year of it. :( All those years as a combat engineer in the military and pounding pavement as a beat cop have taken their toll on my body....and yet, I just keep chugging along.

Overall, I can't complain. I have enough to eat and a roof over my head, and I am definitely looking forward to the cooler weather. A lot of leaves have started to change up here in northern Michigan, mostly ferns, sassafras, sumac and some of the trees; some of the sugar maples are a bright flaming red already. If it gets cold enough to kill all the bugs, I'll be happy. :)
In all likelihood your son is better off, unless someone's aiming to be a lawyer, doctor, or teacher, it's really hard for me to see the benefit of college anymore. Especially four-year institutions. The fact that so many people can get tech certifications from community colleges and go on to make great livings with zero debt and support families is kind of proof of that. So whatever your son ends up doing I'm sure it'll work out. It's hard to know what you want to do at that age anyway, especially for us guys.

I bet with the colder air settin in your startin to feel it even more in the joints, eh?

Those fall colors and temperatures sure are a welcome sight and sensation, I'll tell you that!
I’m SO ready for fall. I hate this heat and we haven’t had rain in a long time. We’ve got rain and lower temps in the forecast, so that’s good.
Me too. We've had a milder summer than usual but it's still nice to dip out of the 100s (hopefully for good this year) and even out of the 90s. It's almost as predictable as the sunrise that the real fall temps don't arrive here until the 3rd week of October, but I tell ya what when those overnight lows drop into the 40s that's when I'm a happy camper. I love waking up to that brisk fall morning air.
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A conversation about unity.

A sense of entitlement maybe? It baffles me too. It's like going to a wedding and being mad you can't walk up in the middle of the service and try on the rings yourself.
I can't speak for anyone else, but you clearly haven't read my reply.

I have no "sense of entitlement"; I don't normally go to a Catholic church and have no intention of doing so in the future.
And I also have no intention at all of going to Mass, trying to trick the priest into giving me communion and telling him the truth afterwards.
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Revelation 12 walk through

A nation born in a single day fulfilling Isaiah 66:8. And the reunification of the northern nation and southern nation back into one nation fulfilling Ezekiel 37. Jesus soon to return to be the King of Israel embraced by the Jews.
All wrong:
1/ The Jewish nation of Israel, took 50 years from conception to birth.
2/ Ezekiel 37:15-28 very plainly remains unfulfilled.
3/ You fail to read and comprehend the Prophesies about the Jews, the House of Judah;
Many prophesies tell us that God intends to Judge and punish them; to smash them like clay pots, Jeremiah 19:1-15, to burn the righteous and wicked alike; Ezekiel 21:1-7 and only a remnant will survive. Romans 9:27.
Just a few will survive, hiding underground; Isaiah 29:1-4, Isaiah 6:11-13
Randy PNW; take note of what the Bible actually says about the faithless Jews.
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Former Pink Floyd member Roger Waters faces possible prosecution after supporting banned Palestine Action

Of course you won’t. This is all in your imagination.
I won't need to because you will find out in a few years. Is it my imagination that woman are being raped all over the UK and Europe by these "immigrants"?

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Jesus was crucified on Thursday

Hi Aaron112, good to see you on this thread. Nisan 15 was not known as a Sabbath when Jesus died. If it fell on the weekly Sabbath the Sabbath was called a high day. That's why the Sabbath after Jesus died was called a high day (greek: Great). It was called a high day because it was an annual holy day that fell on the weekly Sabbath. Nisan 15 would not always fall on a Sabbath. Sometimes it could fall on either day of the week but the year Jesus died Nisan 15 fell on the weekly Sabbath.

The Sadducees controlled Temple worship in Jesus's lifetime and they determined the holy days according to their beliefs. They did not buy the Pharisee's beliefs that Nisan 15 was a Sabbath. Some 20 years after Jesus's death the Pharisees gained control of the Temple worship after Rabbi Yohanon ben Zakkai, a Pharisee, gained leadership of Nasi, or leader of the Sanhedrin.

Find a search engine you trust and search for who controlled Temple worship when Jesus was alive.


Can Nisan 15 be referred to as “the sabbath”?

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Negative and unbiblical lyrics in modern worship led me to write my own songs

Yes, I agree with your premise about many contemporary worship songs. I can say I like the songs though I have not gone over the lyrics yet. There is some good style and sounds in there. A mix of Bob Bennet, America, Hall and Oates with even some Tim Weisburg. In the opening solo that sounds like a flute though perhaps synthesized, I was wondering what an Irish flute would sound like there? Love the more classical flute sound though in the later songs. Thanks for sharing them with me. I was going to say too that you might consider copyrighting your songs if you do not already do so. God bless!
It's quite a blessing for you to list the artists that these songs remind you of. You are right about the flutes, I make them out of bamboo after the bansuri style of India. It's quite similar to the Irish flute in the tone and range. Some are larger or smaller giving them a different range. Thanks so much for your comments, I am smiling!

As far as the lyrics, many of them are phrases that appear in scripture with standard concepts being reworded for lyric flow. I've enjoyed writing the songs with the bible in front of me, sometimes in awe over how connected the word is to itself with so many cross references and tie ins from the old and the new testaments.

Most of my lyrics are simple and basic declarations of faith, loving Jesus and admitting need for God. I do have copyrights on my list of things to do. Thanks for reminding me . . .

God bless you too!
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What are we doing here?

As to heresy, we may also become misguided. Paul reminds us


12 For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and powers, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places


The spiritual warfare is real, but it does not involve persecution death and destruction. Neither should gross error and heresy be tolerated. The devil is crafty, he plays on our fear of conflict and likes to accuse us of being disruptive, even if we are only engaged in a battle of wits


People love to blame the Catholic Church for persecution, but we see from Jeremiah 6, if we stop fighting the good fight, give in to sin and say peace, peace when there is no peace, God brings calamity upon us

14 And they healed the breach of the daughter of my people disgracefully, saying: Peace, peace: and there was no peace. 15 They were confounded, because they committed abomination: yea, rather they were not confounded with confusion, and they knew not how to blush: wherefore they shall fall among them that fall: in the time of their visitation they shall fall down, saith the Lord.

16 Thus saith the Lord: Stand ye on the ways, and see and ask for the old paths which is the good way, and walk ye in it: and you shall find refreshment for your souls. And they said: we will not walk. 17 And I appointed watchmen over you, saying: Hearken ye to the sound of the trumpet. And they said: We will not hearken. 18 Therefore hear, ye nations, and know, O congregation, what great things I will do to them. 19 Hear, O earth: Behold I will bring evils upon this people, the fruits of their own thoughts: because they have not heard my words, and they have cast away my law. 20 To what purpose do you bring me frankincense from Saba, and the sweet smelling cane from a far country? your holocausts are not acceptable, nor are your sacrifices pleasing to me.

Too frequently in congregations we are told to tolerate sin. One has a porn addiction, another is greedy, another steals all attention to themselves, another has their daughter abort a child because they do not want the shame of having an illegitimate grandchild. Nothing gets done. If one objects, they are labeled as harsh, judgmental and unforgiving, so we just sit back, clap our hands, play pretend church and put on the false smile. Righteous deeds are no longer honored, but popularity rules the day. If one is to mention penance, they are shunned. This should not be

No, I do not wish to promote a physical war against heretics. We cannot change their minds by force, but neither do we encourage their deeds by tolerance
We speak up and say this is not right. If we do not repent, God is not going to say don’t worry, you can’t lose your salvation. If we are not heard, we leave. Scripture says if they endure not sound doctrine, have a form of godliness, but deny its power, from such turn away
I often wondered what form of godliness but deny its power meant. Some people treat grace as just forgiveness of sins, which then gives them license to commit more. Some even brag that they are just as bad a sinner after 40 years in the faith as when they first believed. They deny that grace gives us the power to overcome sin and strive for holiness and perfection. A person with grace accepts correction and loves his enemies. One without cries leave me alone, you are judging me, and offers every kind of excuse not to repent, nor has a desire to do so.


No no, we do not learn Christ that way. We proclaim the Gospel of Our Lord, who is mighty to save and grants virtue to anyone that asks it of Him. The battle against sin is a worthy one. No Christian should think he is getting to heaven on a technicality of not being able to lose his salvation if he refuses to stop committing the mortal sins listed in scripture. Scripture is clear

1 Cor 6
9- Know you not that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers 10 Nor the effeminate, nor liers with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor railers, nor extortioners, shall possess the kingdom of God.


God has said He will forgive all sins, but we must make them part of our past and not justify them as we continue to commit them and refuse to repent.
No, I will not kill heretics, neither will I tell them they are saved. I don’t care how many times they say the name of Jesus. We are reminded not to take the name of the Lord in vain. If we are overcome by the habit of sin, we need to take a stance of penance not arrogance. God will give grace to the humble and you will see the power of God’s grace save you from sin that once so easily beset you. That is what He did for me, and will do for all who asks.
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Russia-linked group planned parcel bomb attacks in Europe, according to Lithuanian prosecutors

A Lithuanian investigation has determined Russia-linked suspects packed explosive devices in packages shipped by land and air to the UK, Poland and Germany. Authorities say more attacks were in the works.

Several suspects with ties to Russian military intelligence were involved in the plot, a Lithuanian general prosecutor and criminal police said.

According to Lithuanian National Television (LNT), among the suspects charged are nationals of Russia, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Ukraine.

Homemade incendiary devices were to be concealed in massage cushions and cosmetic tubes. The suspects packed the parcels with thermite, a highly flammable substance used for industrial and military purposes.

Several of the suspects were reportedly tied to a foiled May 9, 2024, arson attempt at an IKEA store in Vilnius, LNT said.

Additionally, one device being carried by DHL exploded July 20 at Leipzig Airport in Germany, while another detonated the next day in a DPD truck in Poland.

A third parcel exploded July 22 at a DHL warehouse in Birmingham, England, while a fourth did not ignite due to a technical malfunction.

DOJ Quietly Deletes Study After Charlie Kirk's Death That Says Right-Wing Extremists Engage in 'Far More' Political Violence

No, that belongs to the citizens of the US.
The People magazine sources the now deleted site.
So that is the source to read, or apparently look at the "The requested page could not be found."
And I notice you still haven't answer my question.
Or is your, "it's their content they can take down if they want to" your response.
Bingo. It's their website and they can delete whatever they want to on it. Was I supposed to come up with a conspiracy theory?
I mean are you ok with them deleting justice reports, health reports, climate reports because it doesn't suit their alternative reality?
I don't care because I don't read those things and neither do you.
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Trump’s business has expanded since 2016 — and so have his potential conflicts

Trump and Co’s extraordinary conflicts of interest in his second term

The $Trump meme coin is an ethics regulator’s waking nightmare. There is little transparency around who is channelling money into it, and even less around the potentially nefarious motives of investors.

The same might be said about the Trumps’ other big crypto venture, World Liberty Financial, which was launched last September by Trump’s sons. The president himself is listed by the company as its “chief crypto advocate”.

Giant Trump statue holding Bitcoin displayed outside US Capitol to mark Fed rate decision

“The installation is designed to ignite conversation about the future of government-issued currency and is a symbol of the intersection between modern politics and financial innovation,” said Hichem Zaghdoudi, a representative of the collective of crypto investors who have funded this artistic installation.


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Limited atonement !

"Apples for oranges" - what is that supposed to mean?

To be fair it was you who started the thread - and you have drawn a lot of opposition to your views, and you are still here 33 pages on arguing. What is the point? You thought you would win everyone to your standpoint?

Strict calvinism and strict arminianism are both theological aberrations and cannot be supported from Scripture. John Wesley was effective IMO because he wasn't a strict Arminian. CH Spurgeon was effective because he wasn't a strict Calvinist, as one can see from some of his sermons.
It meant what I stated
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Old Hymn : Are you washed in the Blood of the Lamb?

What is washed in the Bible ?
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Praise from the Great Multitude
…13Then one of the elders addressed me: “These in white robes,” he asked, “who are they, and where have they come from?” 14“Sir,” I answered, “you know.” So he replied, “These are the ones who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15For this reason, they are before the throne of God and serve Him day and night in His temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them.…
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Why we Christians still have to struggle with sins?

Why we Christians still have to struggle with sins?​


Why was Jesus able to have victory over them? Part of it was He was innocent and knew no sin, but as also a man upon the earth, He was tempted in all respects like us.

So what was His secret to His victory?

He, unlike us, was born without Original Sin; He shared in our mortal humanity, but did not have the same inborn spiritual disease that the rest of us have inherited from Adam.

He was never a slave to sin, was never a slave to His passions and bodily appetites, His (human) will was always and is always in perfect unity with the Divine Will so that in all things He is and always was in perfect agreement in mind, will, and act with the Father.

He could be tempted, He was human. But the sinfulness that infects us and drives our desires inwardly to gratiate ourselves was never a part of Him. That is why He is the perfect and blameless Paschal Lamb who suffered and died in our stead--He who was without sin and knew no sin was "made sin" for us sinners. The perfect life of Jesus was laid down, death had no claim over Him (the "wages of sin is death"), He said He freely lays His life down and freely takes it up again. His death was not earned, but was a freely offered participation in our death, in our suffering, our mess.

His victory over sin is His laying down His life and suffering the ignoble and shame of the cross in order to destroy the very power of sin which holds the world in bondage. The "secret to His victory" is that He is the God-Man.

It is our union to Him, by the grace of God and the indwelling of the Spirit, i.e. our regeneration and having become new that we are charged with a new obedience to follow Christ and live according to the Spirit, to put to death the old man through repentance, and to pursue holiness. We will, in this life, never attain impeccability--because as long as these old bones are hanging around the old Adam still breathes--but we in the New Adam are given a new breath of life, and thus are invited to cooperate with God in living according to justice in love of our neighbor. To reckon ourselves no longer slaves to sin, but slaves to justice.

The Day is coming when these old bones will be laid down, whether through mortal death or kingdom come, and these old bones shall be raised and changed, having borne the image of the first Adam, we shall bear the image of the Second; what is sown in dishonor is raised in honor; what is sown mortal is raised immortal; what is sown decaying raises without decay, incorruptible. This flesh must be changed, from soulish to Spiritual.

But these old bones are still here, and so ours is a struggle between the Old Man and the New. Simul iustus et peccator. We are sinner-saints. We must take up our cross and follow Jesus Christ. If we could shrug off the Old Man then it wouldn't be a cross.

-CryptoLutheran
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Hypothetically, if you committed the unforgivable sin, how would you live the rest of your life?

How would you live your life if you truly were doomed to hellfire because of this sin? I don't want to hear anyone say that if you are worried about it, you haven't committed it. Please just give me a straight answer to this question please.
You would do whatever you desired to do.
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