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Trump Foster’s yet another peace deal

From the article:
Trump hosted Kagame and Congolese officials at the recently renamed Trump Institute of Pace in Washington, D.C., on Thursday for the signing of the peace agreement.​

I think they meant "Peace" not "Pace". Whatever happened to the tradition of naming things after a president only after he has died or at least left office?
Considering that Trump is immortal and will remain president for the rest of the existence of planet earth, I don't see the sensibility of continuing this practice.
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B flat B♭

Well my claim was simply, there is no recorded flight that passes the pole and onto the other side.
Well as commercial flights very rarely, if ever, happen, there's no reason why there should be. That's not the same as saying that it cannot happen - i.e it's impossible.
Admittedly, you may not have been saying that, but I know that @Apple Sky has and does.
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Etymology of bible words jew, jewish, gentile, judaism

I was just looking at that. That part is a letter from the Spartans to the Jews. Basically they are sucking up to the Jews to make a political alliance. Jews write back in the same chapter calling the Spartans their brothers. Or maybe they were not sucking up maybe they were physically descended from Abraham based on this here saying the Spartans believed they came from Heracles / Hercules


and Josephus saying Hercules was a descendent of Abraham

The Antiquities of the Jews, 1.240–1.241​

Flavius Josephus translated by William Whiston
240And indeed Alexander Polyhistor gives his attestation to what I here say; who speaks thus: “Cleodemus the prophet, who was also called Malchus, who wrote a History of the Jews, in agreement with the History of Moses, their legislator, relates, that there were many sons born to Abraham by Keturah: 241nay, he names three of them, Apher, and Surim, and Japhran. That from Surim was the land of Assyria denominated; and that from the other two, Apher and Japbran, the country of Africa took its name, because these men were auxiliaries to Hercules, when he fought against Libya and Antaeus; and that Hercules married Aphra’s daughter, and of her he begat a son, Diodorus; and that Sophon was his son, from whom that barbarous people called Sophacians were denominated.”

But the Spartans did not circumcize which was the sign of the Abrahamic covenant in Genesis so if they were descended from Abraham it is strange they did not follow that custom.

No, it’s not actually strange. Galatians 5.

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The rise of menace as a mainstream political tool

Threats pile up as Indiana Republicans confront pressure from Trump on redistricting

[It's up to a dozen, now]

It’s a bewildering and frightening experience for lawmakers who consider themselves loyal party members and never imagined they would be doing their jobs under the same shadow of violence that has darkened American political life in recent years.

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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

Actually it is exactly about this and about Mind states. By equivicating the Mind as just feelings and unrelaible you are whether you know it or not pushing a belief that the Mind is just feelings or some unrelaible knowledge.

That only methodlogical naturalism can give us the knowledge and it claims that the Mind is just an epiphenomena of the physical brain. Thus this is a belief claim about an epiistemic and by extention ontological truth claim. Which is a belief and not factual or science.
This thread is about ancient civilizations and their physical remains. It is not about human perception of sound. That's why you list of articles was irrelevant.
Isn't it hyocritical that you demand peer review or at least some scientific basis which I provide. Yet you just fob it off with a single word. No peer review, no science and no reasoning or explanation for why. This only supports the point I have been making in how this is blantantly biased.
Peer review is not needed to recognize material that is off topic.
No its not just a guess. I gave you the reasoning and evidence.
No, no, no. You have provided a plethora of links to crank archeology sites, videos, etc. Nothing explaining *what* that "melting" is is provided or connected to any "evidence" other than things that "look melted". Even if they were ultimately correct, they are at speculation stage. They have not even formed a hypothesis of the mechanism.
Whatever they are they are supernatural and beyond the naturalistic processes. I disagree with your short dismissal with no explanation.
Then they are not on topic for this sub form, unless you'd like to submit them to scientific scrutiny...
So from now on I will not give any reasoning or evidence and just use short dismissals.
If only we could be so lucky.
Its not spectualtive.
"simulation theory" is absolutely speculative (and wrong) and not the topic of this thread on ancient human civilizations.
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Love codified in the Ten Commandments

You say I'm “reconciling God to Paul,” but Paul’s writings are God’s word (2 Tim 3:16, 2 Pet 3:15-16). The problem is not Paul—it’s your assumption that “law written on the heart = the same Sinai code on stone.” 2 Cor 3 never says that. You are adding that idea to the text. Paul’s entire contrast is between two covenants (old vs. new), not between “same law, new location.”

2 Cor 3:7–11 explicitly says the thing engraved on stone—not Moses’ face—is the “ministry of death” and is passing away. Paul doesn’t say the glory on Moses’ skin was passing away; he says the ministry written on stone was. That’s the text. You’re reversing it to protect a conclusion the passage does not teach.

Hebrews also contradicts your reading:
The old covenant (called the Ten Commandments in Deut 4:13) is “obsolete” (Heb 8:13). The new covenant is established on “better promises,” not the re-installation of the Sinai treaty. Hebrews never says the 10 = the New Covenant law. The NT writers don’t place Christians back under the Sinai code; they place them under Christ (Rom 8:2, Gal 6:2, John 15:10). Revelation uses “commandments” the same way John always does—referring to Christ’s teaching (1 John 3:23), not to the tablets of Sinai.

So the issue isn’t that I’m reading Scripture “through the lens of man.” The issue is that your interpretation requires ignoring the plain statements that the old covenant—the one defined by the tablets of stone—has been replaced.

Happy to leave it there, but the text simply doesn’t support the idea that the Ten Commandments continue unchanged as the New Covenant law.
I never said Paul's writing is not Scripture or inspired, but in the inspired Scripture we are warned about people twisting Paul's writings as they do the rest of Scripture to their own destruction. Paul in the inspired writings is still not God or above His words. No one is. So if we are using Paul's writings against God's own promises, I personally would be concerned about the warning.

The New Covenant has been addressed so many times about what God placed in the hearts of His New Covenant believers- His Laws- only God can define them, not us and He did written and spoken by God Exo31:18 that Jesus not to destroy Mat5:17 but to fulfill or magnify Isa 42:21 which means make greater not smaller as most teach as if Jesus failed. He promised not to edit His words Deut4:13 Psa89:34 Mat 5:18-19, I am going to stick with what He said James2:11. . Why its still a sin to break God's Laws 1John3:4 James2:11 because man is not God, nor will they ever be. We can't make something perfect written by the Holy Spirit more perfect Psa19:7 Rom7:12 the issue will always be man, not the Law of God. We can rebel Rom8:7-8 that's always a choice or we can keep them and trust God knows what He is doing Exo20:6 John14:15. Life is about choices and our choices comes with consequences Rom6:16 that one day cannot be changed Rev22:11
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What happens spiritually that makes us born again?

What are the spiritual mechanics of being born again?

I'll give my thoughts on this matter and we'll go from there. Just for the record, if I'm speaking of baptism, it's the spiritual baptism that I'm speaking of unless otherwise noted. I'll tell you if I mean water baptism.

If you ask someone what being born is, they're likely to respond with something like the wind blows where it wills, all from John 3, etc. But I think the Bible does give us some insight and that insight helps tremendously in interpreting Scripture over all.

When we are placed into/immersed/baptized into Christ, we receive everything at once, all the ingredients to be saved. Thus we are complete "in Him" and lacking nothing (Col. 2:10-14). This is the Church, the Body, that the placing into, or the baptism with the Holy Spirit spiritually unites us with. By receiving the indwelling as a result of our faith, we are placed into Christ, becoming one with Him. Setting aside the legality of our salvation, that is, being saved/delivered from the penalty of sin, the focus in this thread will mainly be in our being saved/delivered from the power of sin. This is the practical side of being saved and is called being born again, which not only frees us from the power of sin, but also allows us to begin to be conformed to Christ likeness (Gal. 3:2-3).

Being born again is the result of being placed into Christ.

When the Bible speaks of our being raised up with Him, or raised up in Christ, it's speaking of our being born again. When it speaks of being crucified with Christ, dying with Him, that is the necessary death that must precede being raised up with Him. When we are placed into/immersed/baptized into Christ, we're also placed into/immersed/baptized into His death, and raised up with Him, thus we are born again.

These are verses that I believe are speaking of being born again, though they do not use the typical language. These are all speking of the Spirit baptism, known as the baptism with the Holy Spirit by Jesus.

Romans 6:3-11 Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection, knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. For he who has died has been freed from sin. Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him. For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Col. 2:10-14 and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power. In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

Gal. 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.

Gal. 3:2-3 This only I want to learn from you: Did you receive the Spirit (baptism with the Holy Spirit) by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh? ---- *(added by me)*

26-27 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as were baptized (with the Holy Spirit) into Christ have put on Christ. ---- *(added by me)*

Ephesians 2:5-6 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,

1 Peter 3:21 There is also an antitype which now saves us--baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

Being born again is simultaneous to being placed into Christ, also being placed into Jesus' death and raised up with Him.

The Bible tells us that we are saved/delivered through the resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe this is saved/delivered both judicially and being born again. But when the Bible speaks of being 'raised up with Him', like Ephesians 2:6, I believe that it's specifically speaking of our being born again.

Do you recognize this Scripture of speaking of being born again? Is this a metaphor, or does this really happen spiritually when we receive the Holy Spirit.

Dave
Yes, you are right that Jesus saves us "all at once". The "mechanism" that transforms us from lost to saved is that Jesus saves us (Rom 10:13). It is difficult to choose between spiritual baptism and spiritual birth as the specific means He employs to save us, but I don't think we need to choose between the two. We can see that receiving Jesus into our hearts is what it means to be born of God (Jn 1:12) and we can see that receiving Jesus into our hearts is what makes us baptized into Christ (Gal 3:27).

Spiritual baptism brings in the concepts of death because of sin but new life through resurrection from the dead (Rom 6:3). Spiritual birth brings in the concepts of being a new creation (2 Cor 5:17) and partaking of God's divine nature (2 Pet 1:4). But the end of both is the same -- being joined with the Lord and being one spirit with Him (1 Cor 6:17). Both concepts are valid, but they point to different aspects of the same event.
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A Christian being friends with a non-believer with a lying problem

There can be a spectrum in what one calls a "friend". Obviously trust is inversely proportional with lying. However, if one asks the person if he is aware of his lying and if he is is he interested in working on fixing it, you might offer to help him work on it.
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what is Calvinism answer to how God works?

I never said or even suggested man made in God's image was destroyed. I also hold to an image that is marred, but I will also add that fallen man postlapsarian is Totally Depraved. Now interesting enough Arminius also believe this as well. But other Synergistic theologies do not. Which my friend is a lofty view of fallen man.​
The only way man could be totally depraved is if the imago dei was destroyed in the fall. it's not a lofty view of fallen man, you simply have a misanthropic view.

Do you believe that Adam needed Donum Superadditum prelapsarian?​
I don't think grace is over and above, and that all men including Adam are dependent on grace at every moment.



I never said these are the only options. There are obviously a lot more false heresies than just Arminianism.
It is Calvinism that is heresy, given that it didn't crop up until the 16th century.
Well friend, either we are under a curse of sin or not. Either we are exiled or not. Either we can save ourselves or not. Either we are dead in sin or not. There is no third category as synergists suggest between life and death somewhere in limbo (Prevenient Grace). This friend is a man-made heresy. Like, "you will not surely die", one suggested.​
The curse of sin is mortality and infirmity, not Total Depravity/inability
Good! But the Synergists say otherwise. Sometimes you have to take the time and read the fine print.
No, synergists don't. We are not Pelagians.
It is the crux of it!
Nope, just under your false dilemma.
Gift means it's given freely to whom ever he wills because it is not earned nor can be because we are fallen. The only thing I contribute is sin, I have nothing else. Which it is why God also gives us renewed minds to understand him and new hearts to believe him.
Freely given to all men, but only effective for those who receive. And under Calvinism you don't even contribute sin, as that's provided by Adam. so you have no part in salvation, it is irrelevant to you.
This is why Jesus says he came to heal the sick. He will make the lame walk, the blind see, the deaf hear, and the dead rise! It's His doing friend which is why we must be humbled, because we receive it with empty hands not by God owing us anything by what we do or will do.​
We must receive it, God doesn't do that part for us. Unlike what Calvinism teaches.
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For those who are gamers, how do you handle Christian Ethics vs gaming?

I understand how you are seeing it, but when God says, "You must not anan." That is, cloud over, giving rise to the idea of veiling or obscuring (figuratively) to act covertly, i.e. practice magic, there is a clear distinction between magic and miracles.
So while I have heard persons argue that they are both the same, the Bible does not equate the two.
Otherwise, people could not perform miracles, and Jesus would be a magic practicing rabbi... which would make him an enemy of God.

However, Jesus did not practice magic, but used the power of God, which his disciples were given access to.
At Deuteronomy 18:10-14, God says, "There shall not be found among you anyone who ... anan (figuratively) acts covertly, i.e. practices magic... for these nations, which you are about to dispossess, anan (figuratively) acted covertly, i.e. practiced magic.. But as for you, the LORD your God has not allowed you to do this.

So while God allowed his servants to perform miracles, he does not allow them to practice magic - something distinct and different from miracles.
Magic is never a miracle. It is a hidden - covered over - practice, that involves some sort of deception.
Is that not true?
I'm linking this to modern day use of the word "magic". I understand the biblical connotations, but the world doesn't. To subscribe a video game developers use of the word "magic" is essentially assuming they're using the biblical context of "magic" when I highly doubt they are and why I don't think you have to strictly adhere to the biblical concept when someone uses it. People in general will call God's power "magic" instead of power or any other word choice. You can call satans magic "power" too. So I think being afraid of the word instead of applying context, is being a bit too linear.

But like I said, if someone disagrees with me and hates the word entirely, then that is completely fine.
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Relative of Trump Press Secretary taken by ICE

Mom of Karoline Leavitt’s Nephew Speaks Out After Her ICE Arrest

In an interview with The Washington Post, published Sunday, Bruna Ferreira called the White House’s depiction of her as an absentee mother “disgusting,” and said she "made a mistake" in trusting Leavitt [over her only sister] to be her son's godmother.

Ferreira is a Brazilian national who traveled to the U.S. legally at the age of 6 and previously held Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals status.

Since [the arrest], the White House has depicted the 33-year-old—her relationship with her son, the press secretary and the broader Leavitt family—in a way that sharply contrasts with her own account.

In a recent interview with Newsweek, Ferreira’s attorney Todd Pomerleau said that his client has no criminal record and maintains close ties to the Leavitt family, contrary to the administration’s portrayal.

A spokesperson for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) previously told Newsweek that Ferreira had an arrest for battery on her record, and in a statement to CNN, the DHS called Ferreira a “criminal illegal alien from Brazil.”
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Do you keep the Sabbath? (poll)

Since the begining there has always been law.

Well certainly not the Levitical Priesthood Law God gave on Mt. Sinai, because of Transgressions. It didn't exist in the beginning. Levi wasn't even born until centuries after Abraham. God's Grace existed, man's Faith existed, God's definition of Sin existed. But the Priesthood Covenant God made with Levi, because of Transgressions, added 430 years after Abraham, didn't exist in the beginning.

Why would a man, who professed to know God, choose to refuse to accept or even acknowledge this simple and undeniable Biblical Fact?

That does not mean that the Sinai Covenant reached back to the beginning,

That is the point of Paul's teaching in Gal. 3. The "LAW" Abraham didn't have, that the Pharisees were still promoting, that was ADDED "Because of Transgression" and was only to be in place, Till the High Priest, "After the Order of Melchizedek should come", didn't reach back to Abraham's time. Abraham was justified of his sin, "Apart" from this Law. The Pharisees were trying to force the Galatians, and the Gentiles in Acts to come to them, Priests in the Temple, for the remission of sins, as per this LAW.

I have asked you before and you refused to answer. But I'll ask again, maybe this time you will answer.

This "ADDED" Law Paul speaks to, what was it ADDED to? And this LAW that was added, "because of transgressions", transgressions of what?

ant that doesn't mean that mankind today is subject to all of the previous laws.

Certainly man was not under all the previous Laws of the Levitical Priesthood Law for the remission of Sins, that Abraham wasn't under, that wasn't even added until 430 years after Abraham, and was Prophesied to end at the coming of Gods Prophesied High Priest, "After the Order of Melchizedek".

The mainstream preachers of Paul's Time was still promoting it, as they rejected this Prophesied Messiah, and murdered Him. But truly it was not God's Intent for this Priesthood Law to stay the same forever. I was intended to lead men to the True Lamb of God, as it did for Zacharias, David, Simeon, Anna and the Wise men. Even Abraham saw the Day of Jesus, and was glad.

Gen. 22: 7 And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering? 8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.

Jesus gave mankind a New and better Covenant. Every human being is under the new covenant because Jesus fulfilled the old one. The question I have for you who claims to be under the Law, how do you go about picking some laws and culling others?

Yes, Jesus is a High Priest of a New and better Priesthood Covenant for the remission of sins, not like the Priesthood Covenant God made with Levi on Mt. Sinai. I'm happy to discuss Gods Laws you preach to others I am "culling", but please be more specific.

in other words who has given you permission to avoid parts of the all the covenants God has ever placed on

Like I said, I am happy to discuss the parts of God's Laws you accuse me of avoiding. But you will have to be more specific in your accusations towards me.

Not that that is wrong I never pointed it out. There is no need to. Did Adam have a law prohibiting his son for taking his daughter.

Gen. 6: 1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the "sons of God" saw the "daughters of men" that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

I only know what God chose to reveal to men in Scriptures. I am not foolish enough to believe I am privy to every Word God Spoke, or that I know or have been given perfect knowledge of all of his creation, since I only "know in part". Since I'm not here to justify a dislike and rejection of some of God's Laws, I'm not inclined to accuse or assume Abel sinned against God or that Noah was the product of human inbreeding.

You are free to make whatever judgments of God and His Word that you want, after the imagination of your own heart. You certainly wouldn't be the first.

I do know that Noah's sons knew it was a sin to look on the Nakedness of their father, and that one son, Ham, just like you, didn't like God's Law telling him what to look at and what not to look at. But his other two sons respected God in this matter. I believe it is because they chose to honor and humble themselves to God, while Ham chose to dishonor God choosing instead to satisfy the Lusts of his own flesh. This was also done by Eve, who didn't like God's Law telling her what to eat, or Cain who didn't like God's Law showing him how to treat his brother, or Sodom who didn't like God's Law defining His Righteousness that HE showed them, or the Children of Israel who despised God's Judgments and didn't Like God's Law telling them what day was Holy, or the Pharisees who didn't like God's Commandments so they created and promoted commandments of men.

And now here you are, trying to justify yourself "because" you don't like Gods Law telling you what to eat, or His Laws telling you what to look at, or His Laws telling you how to treat your brother, of His Laws defining God's righteousness, or His Laws telling you what days are to be Holy to you, or His Commandments, and you have created your own commandments.

This is "the course of this World", and we all have walked in it. We are supposed to repent from this evil behavior, as defined by God, and be renewed in the spirit of our mind, and "put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

The old self "that doesn't like to be told by God what to", crucified with Christ, replaced by a New Man who Yields himself to God, and his body as instruments of God's Righteousness. Who strives to be perfect, even as his Father in heaven is perfect, who delights in God's Laws.

Hard to do when you judge God's instruction in righteousness as unworthy of your honor and respect.

The rest of your post deserves attention, if nothing more than for mere courtesy. I'll deal with it in another post.
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Is Amazon Renewed a good place to find an iPad?

I'm considering using Amazon Renewed to find a good quality cheap refurbished iPad. I am wondering how reliable a refurbished device would be, because one time a friend bought a refurbished Samsung Galaxy phone from Walmart and it had severe charging problems. So I have a distrust of buying refurbished, and wonder if I want to go with a brand new device. I have a brother who has autism and lives at a care center, and I can FaceTime him if I have an Apple device, and the care center is overly restrictive on not allowing any cross platform apps (not allowing Zoom or WhatsApp for Windows or Android).
I have always bought refurbished .... depending on how much II spend .... I might pay a extra for an extended warranty ... I have gotten them off of ebay

Amazon extended warranty

Cost Varies: Prices depend on the iPad's price and plan length (e.g., 2-year, 4-year).
  • For a 2-year plan, you might see prices from around $30-$40 for lower-end tablets up to $175-$200+ for higher-end models.
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Making a Video Game

So, are you interested in making a game, then?
If you would like to try out generating your models, you can use this link. It gives you 300 credits for free.
If you have models made already, you can retopologize them for 10 credits, and rig them for 20 credits.
I would like to hear what you think of it, so be sure to give me some feedback.
Have you started making any games before?

I don’t have time for that. But I think a historically accurate, FPS game would be fun.
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In that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness....

We shall be persecuted by the man-based churches for leaving them and those who will stay put in them will not believe in the Word of Truth when they will hear it and will behave badly in unrighteousness.

But we are to “suffer” with Christ…partaking in His sufferings, so that His glory shall be revealed in us to the people of the outside world.

Rom 8:18-21 KJV
(18) For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

Let there be light. The intense anticipation of this world waits for the manifestation of the sons of God who will shine His light to them. The creation is currently in deep darkness being made subject to emptiness.

(19) For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
(20) For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

(21) Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

We, His people, are to hear the Word of Truth….and hearing is believing in it. Hearing is being swift to hear and slow to speak and slow to wrath over what we hear. The “deaf” shall hear the words of the book as the Lord opens up the Scriptures to our hearing ears.

He begets us with the Word of Truth (the "deaf" shall hear) so that we should be a kind of firstfruits (which is the 144,000…..the house of Jacob…the vessels of His mercy) of His creatures (which is the “great multitude” of the people of the outside world sitting in deep darkness). The “blind” shall then see.

Jas 1:18-20 KJV
(18) Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.
(19) Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:

(20) For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.

After we hear the Word of Truth….the good news of our salvation…we BELIEVE and are sealed with the Holy Spirit of the promise. Those who hear His voice shall live...receive an age-lasting life. We receive the promise of His presence by which we shine the light of Christ to the people of the outside world who are sitting in deep darkness.

Eph 1:13
(13) In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of the promise,

With His manifest presence, we bring about the redemption of the purchased possession (the believers of the outside world who will “see” Him through us manifesting His presence to them). They will then praise God above when they see His glory shine through us. We are to be unto the praise of His glory as the people of this world shall see Him through us and praise God above.

(14) Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

Christ the firstfruits (the 144,000 who will HEAR the Word of Truth and BELIEVE in it) shall be made alive…and then those that Christ’s IN His presence…the believers among the people of the outside world currently sitting in deep darkness. We manifest His presence to them with our “open face”. The Spirit of God moves upon the faces of the waters. They “see” Him through us and believe. Let there be His light in their deep darkness. They shall “see” the light and believe and praise God.

1Co 15:22-25
(22) For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
(23) But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's in his PRESENCE.
(24) Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

(25) For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

We ...the firstfruits of Christ...are to obtain an inheritance with having His presence be made manifest through us: to gather in one all things in Christ both of which are in heaven (the people who have their citizenship in heaven now in this earth) and all things which are in the earth (the people of the outside world).

We preach the Word of Truth to His people who are to hear and believe (the “deaf” shall hear)and we shine His light to the outside people who will then “see” His light in their darkness and believe (the “blind” shall then see).

Eph 1:10-14 KJV
(10) That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
(11) In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
(12) That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
(13) In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

(14) Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

We, with Christ our light, are to participate in the raising up of the tribes of Jacob….to restore the preserved of Israel (those who have their citizenship in heaven) and to shine His light to the nations (the earth)…to bring His salvation to them. We preach the Word of Truth to the tribes of Jacob (the vessels of His mercy) and we shine His light to the outside nations….bringing His salvation to them. The "deaf" shall hear the Word of Truth and the "blind" shall see His light from those who will hear and believe.

Isa 49:6-7 KJV
(6) And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.

In the man-based churches we do not shine His light to the people of the outside world . The Holy One (Jesus Christ) is despised among the nations because of them. The nations abhor us. We have been a servant of rulers as the people of the outside world rule over us rather than us over them.

But we are redeemed from among the man-based churches. We are delivered from those who are living in error. We come out from among them and are separate so that we may shine His glory light to those who once hated us. He chooses us to participate with Christ in gathering all things in Him.

Then, their kings shall see and arise and prince shall worship.

(7) Thus saith the LORD, the Redeemer of Israel, and his Holy One, to him whom man despiseth, to him whom the nation abhorreth, to a servant of rulers, Kings shall see and arise, princes also shall worship, because of the LORD that is faithful, and the Holy One of Israel, and he shall choose thee.

WHENEVER CHRIST SHALL APPEAR. In His times (in the appointed occasions), God will show/display Christ Jesus who is King of kings (of those who are currently ruling) and Lord of lords (those who are currently lording). God has appointed occasions to show Christ appearing in us to them who will believe. They will see the “appearing”…the epiphany…of the Lord (of lords) Jesus Christ through us. The believers among the kings and rulers of this earth shall then see who is the only true King and Lord through us. They will see the Only Ruler. He makes us a royal nation....a kingdom of priests...in this earth by His appearing through us to their seeing eyes.

1Ti 6:13-19 KJV
(13) I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;
(14) That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
(15) Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

(16) Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

And we are to charge them…the rich (the believing kings and lords in this world) not to be highminded….

(17) Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;
(18) That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;

(19) Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.

Jesus Christ shall be highly exalted. The believing kings of this earth shall SEE Him through us. They will not have heard the Word of Truth but shall SEE Him. Seeing is believing for them.

Isa 52:13-15 KJV
(13) Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high.
(14) As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men:

(15) So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider.
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Eve and the Fallacy of Moral Choices

Do at least some Christians have the indwelling Holy Spirit and if so does demons, devil or some other evil beings also dwell in these people?
Paul himself had evil present with him, Romans 7:21, never claimed to be sinless, Romans 3:9 and even outright stated he had a messenger of Satan in his own flesh, 2 Cor. 12:7, inclusive of temptation in his flesh, Gal. 4:14. Paul also never exempted himself from any Word of God, as most are prone to do today.

It really shouldn't be all that hard to figure out, even without scriptures, that we are tempted often, and internally, in effect blindsided from out of nowhere, and not from our own minds, but in mind nevertheless.

These are not hard observations by either scripture or by experience. We ALL have an evil conscience.

And we ALL have adversaries that are unseen. This really should be common knowledge among believers, not this lying "I am exempt" nonsense that most carry. It's really not even them making such statements. They are statements under the influences.

God bound everyone to disobedience...Romans 11:32 and that disobedience is an unseen spiritual adversary, Eph. 2:2

These are, in essence the very same TWO VESSELS that Paul writes of in Romans 9, in ONE LUMP Paul termed "me."
I am still waiting on you to find on NT translation done by a group of scholars which has Mark 4:13-20 using people.
It was your used translation that used the term "some people." That doesn't exist in the KJV or other translations.

ALL parables consist of 3 parties: God/people and the devil

The parable is The Word. Luke 8:11

Most often these terms are rightfully stated as "these" and "they. No one is exempt from Mark 4:15 OR the remaining parts of the parables because ---> ALL people are God's children bound with our adversaries in our flesh. It's also the identical principle spoken of by Paul in Gal. 4:21-29, and many other places throughout the scriptures.

God does really want people to understand, but likewise the devils will never understand and to them, they will neither understand and they will resist, obfuscate, disobey every single time.

Since in the end there will be no harm, no foul to people, it all works out and we will have served His Purposes for us in these events of our lives.
You have to look at the context for both the soils and different individuals, they are not all the same people.
That is only what you'd prefer it to say. I really don't see how anyone can honestly come to that conclusion if they believe Jesus, that man shall LIVE by EVERY WORD of God.

Your position has obviously both rejected personal applicability of Mark 4:15 and Matt. 4:4, Luke 4:4 and Deut. 8:3

Again, no blame to you as a person. It's really meant to happen this way
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Rosie O’Donnell’s Trump ‘Fixation’ Made Her Therapist Challenge Her to Go Two Days Without Posting About Him — She Made It a Few Hours

Rosie O’Donnell’s hatred of President Donald Trump led her therapist to recently plead with her to go two days without posting anything about the president on social media; O’Donnell, according to a Washington Post profile on Saturday, only lasted “a few hours” before she was compelled to post about Trump again.

The comic’s “fixation” on the president, as WaPo put it, has also become a concern for her longtime friends. One of those friends, Jeanne Kopetic, insisted O’Donnell has “got to disconnect” from following the news, because she is so consumed by what Trump does.

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The 'alt-right fringe' is pushing its way into normal conservative circles

Blaming news is antiquated and those young fellas aren't watching as much news as commentary online.

It's the talking heads that are really doing a number on male youth right now.
Yes that is definitely a problem. Kids these days are so easily tricked by social media.
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Majority of pastors now using AI to prepare sermons amid rapid embrace of technology: study

A majority of pastors are now using artificial intelligence to prepare their sermons, with ChatGPT and Grammarly reported as the top two AI tools, new survey data shows.

"ChatGPT is the most visible generative AI tool that can engage in human-like conversations and assist with a wide range of tasks, from answering questions to generating content," researchers wrote in "The 2025 State of AI in the Church Survey Report" prepared by AiForChurchLeaders.comand Exponential AI NEXT.

“As the most popular AI tool among church leaders (26%), ChatGPT is being used for applications such as sermon preparation, research, and crafting church communications. Its versatility and ease of use make it a powerful asset for streamlining ministry work and sparking creative ideas."

The data, based on responses from 594 pastors and church staff members, shows that church leaders are now more concerned about "the weighty ethical and practical considerations involved" in the use of AI as they continue their rapid embrace of the technology.

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Just when you think things couldn't get any worse... and then you're surprised when it does. Maybe I'm too optimistic? What's next? We taking our spiritual teachings from animals now when the world creates their first ever animal translator? ... scratch that, I don't want to give people ideas...
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Zions New Children

Galatians 3:7-9:
7 Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham.8 Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you.”[d] 9 So those who rely on faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

Galatians 3:15-17:
15 Brothers and sisters, let me take an example from everyday life. Just as no one can set aside or add to a human covenant that has been duly established, so it is in this case.16 The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,”[i] meaning one person, who is Christ.
Don't conflate literal vs spiritual. The promise God made to Abraham was literal descendants that will be like the stars in the sky. That is a biological promise. When it comes to being "heirs" of the promises God made with what he will do with Abraham's descendants, we share in that promise but that doesn't do away with the literal biological promise God made to Abraham.
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The Big Beautiful Bill shall became Law

It passed out of fear. All the Republicans know that if they do not vote for it , like it or not, Donald Trump will punish them and the state they represent.

Very few, if any, in the GOP have the courage to not comply with whatever craziness hw wants. Our only hope as a democratic nation is mid term turnovers.
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Judge dismisses James Comey and Letitia James cases, finding prosecutor's appointment invalid

Judge temporarily blocks Justice Department’s use of evidence in dismissed Comey case

The judge’s order sets up a fast-moving emergency court proceeding over this week that could exclude key pieces of evidence from any future proceeding against Comey, potentially limiting what prosecutors may present to a grand jury after his previous case was dismissed for different reasons.

The development follows a court challenge from Comey’s friend and former lawyer Dan Richman, who went to court after learning federal investigators may have used unauthorized access to his digital communications to prosecute Comey.

“The Court concludes that Petitioner Richman is likely to succeed on the merits of his claim that the Government has violated his Fourth Amendment right against unreasonable searches and seizures by retaining a complete copy of all files on his personal computer (an ‘image’ of the computer) and searching that image without a warrant,” DC District Court Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly wrote in a four-page ruling.
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Although I don't believe this apparently scientists believe life formed on its own

This is no better an explanation than what has been presented before and none every can explain the emergence of life. Or the emergence of anything from nothing and it does not matter how far you want to take the beginning back to.

THis is the fundemental issue that keeps coming up again and again and I think the fallacy of this explanation is being exposed more and more as we actually look deeper into the complexity and design of life.

Now we are at a point where we actually have to explain life. Not the inanimate world but the living and breathing life with agency and free will and conscious experiences of the beyond.

It cannot all be explained by non life creating life. Or combinations of inanimate objects somehow rubbing together to create life like some epiphenomena of consciousness.

This is completely an inadequate explanation and material science will never be able to account for life. Or existence for that matter. In fact I think the more we go on the more it will become aparent that there is something more alive or conscious in the very fabric of existence beyond what naturalism can possibly account for.
That may well be and science does not deny it or rule it out. You're just irked because they pretty much have already ruled out your version of the Christian God as a likely candidate.
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Do the Ten Commandments apply to Christians today?

BobRyan said:

Not true.

Adam did not "take God's name in vain"
Gen 6-7 shows that even the distinction between CLEAN vs UNCLEAN animals we observed before the flood
Again, no verse that shows that anyone kept the sabbath before Moses.

Secondly, Gen 6-7 contains the 7 Noahic laws which included not eating the flesh of a live animal not about clean vs unclean.

Third, God had an opportunity to require the sabbath rest for Noah and his people but He did not make it part of the 7 laws. The 4th commandment was not given until Moses and the to Israel.

1. your response Irrelevant in a discussion of the flood in Gen 6,7
It is relevant. Read above.
2. Sabbath is in Gen 2:2-3 according to the Sabbath commandment of Ex 20:11 long before Gen 6
Which no one knew about or read until the 15th century BCE when Moses wrote the book of Genesis. This is basic biblical history.
3. Made for mankind Mark 2:27
And mankind corrupted it which is why Jesus became the Lord of the sabbath. My rest is in Jesus.
refusing to see the flaw in your own argument is not a funny kind of "proof" in support of it
Apply that you yourself. I am using context including historical and linguistic context to interpret scripture but you are not. What actual biblical evidence do you have to show that the sabbath was kept prior to Moses? It’s time for you to post the proof to your argument.
The very fact that "do not take God's name in vain" is not in Gen 6 or 2 or 3 and yet you still admit it was always true totally undermines your argument against any other one of the Ten Commandments in that regard... and we all know it
You continue with your straw man. No one has made the argument that it is ok to take Gods name in vain. Secondly your argument is one of silence which is quite the fallacy. You argument is that since the commandment to not take Gods name in vain (which you are using for drama effect) does not appear in Genesis but people did not take His name in vain (as far as you know since God destroyed everyone except for 8 so they could have been taking His name in vain) then all other commandments including the 4th commandment are equally “present”. That, my friend, begs the question.
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