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Dave... · 2025-12-03T12:54:36-0600

Hebrews Outline by Kenneth Wuest

HEBREWS Analysis by Kenneth S. Wuest Wuest's Word Studies From the Greek New Testament I. The New Testament is better than and takes the place of the First Testament because its Founder, the Messiah, is better than... (1:1-8:6) 1. The prophets (1:1-3) since Messiah is... ....a. God the Son...

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Dave... · 2025-12-03T12:52:24-0600

III. Faith, not works, the way of salvation, as proved by instance of First Testament saints (11:1-12:2)

1. Faith defined (11:1-3)

2. Faith illustrated (11:4-40)

3. Faith exhorted (12:1,2)]

IV. Final Warnings and Exhortations (12:3-13:25)

1. If these Jews remain under the chastening hand of God, and do not seek to escape persecution by renouncing their professed faith in Messiah, that is an evidence that they are saved. But if they do the opposite, that shows that they have never been saved (12:3-17)

2. When they come to New Testament truth, they come, not to the thunders of Sinai, but to the grace of Calvary (12:18-24)

3. They are warned not to refuse the Lord Jesus, for those who refused Moses were punished (12:25-29)

4. General exhortations (13:1-17)

5. Closing words (13:18-25)

iluvatar5150 · 2025-12-03T12:45:26-0600

Always in His Presence said:
It is December 3, 2025 and what was supposed to happen in the OP still has not.

How long will they hold onto a hope that just plainly is not happening.

We have a concept of a replacement SecWar.

camille70 · 2025-12-03T12:45:15-0600

rjs330 said:
Good Lord, why are we holding people for 3 months? If they are illegal, it shouldn't take three months to ship them out. And we absolutely are responsible to see they get the medical care they need. It's unconscionable that they don't.

Follow the money.

Dave... · 2025-12-03T12:45:06-0600

Both these first two OT passages are speaking of being born again, but still a future event to be realized. Later in John it's called the Promise of the Father. The Holy Spirit.

OT-EZ 36:26-37 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them.

OT-John 7:38-39 He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water. (born again)" But this He spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those believing in Him would receive; for the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.

OT-John 16:12-15 I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you. (John 3:3 points to the same fulfilment, notice, they still cannot see).

OT-John 3:13-14 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, (Jesus must first be glorified)

OT-John 15:26, 14:25-26

OT-14:14-20 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever-- the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you. "A little while longer and the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you will live also. At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you.

Do you see it? Born again? A future promise. Aligned with the indwelling, that baptism with the Holy Spirit. The baptism that saves. See Romans 6:3-11, Gal 3:26-29, Col. 2:10-14, 1 Peter 3:21.

Jesus the prophesied baptizer by John the Baptist himself. Fulfilled at Pentecost.

CLEEB · 2025-12-03T12:45:01-0600

seeking.IAM said:
I am opposed to abortion for the majority of situations. I have never been in such a position but if I was, I would not willingly be party to abortion of a fetus I had fathered.

That said, I don't think 13-year-olds should be compelled to deliver their an move baby. I don't think rape victims should be compelled to deliver their rapist's baby. I don't think women should die if an abortion could save their lives. I think these are difficult decisions to be made by the persons involved and not by men in suits.

This is indeed a very difficult question. When answering it we cannot allow human emotion to be the only determining factor. Ask, is it right to murder the innocent over the sins of adults ? I believe abortion is murder. The fetus in the mother is not the mothers body, it is a new person developing in the mothers body. There are arguments brought by those who support abortion that the fetus is nothing more than a bunch of cells and is not truly alive. Well all people are a bunch of cells in or out of the womb. If something is alive it must take in food, excrete waste, can move, respond to external stimulation and undergo continuous cellular development. NASA has even lower standards to prove alien life. The only innocent person in the abortion is the fetus. Who knows what that aborted fetus could have been as an adult ? Here are some people whose mothers were encouraged by medical professionals to abort their child; Stephen Curry, Tim Tebow, Justin Bieber, Andrea Bocelli, Celine Dion, Oprah Winfrey, Pope John Paul II, Jack Nicholson, Cher, Brook Shields and Steve Jobs. Who knows how many that were aborted could have had a potential to do something great in their lives ? There is an old saying that two wrongs don’t make a right. It matters not if a woman and man is promiscuous, if it is incest or rape the only innocent party is the child. Abortion is making the innocent pay for what the guilty have done. Even the 6th commandment says thou shalt not do murder. Sin is something that touches more people than just the sinner and because we do not love our neighbor as ourselves leads to all manner of sin. Each one us will give an account to GOD for our choices we make in this life life so they had better be good ones.

Belk · 2025-12-03T12:43:50-0600

Servus said:
It sounded to me like you misinterpreted the term strongman to mean someone who tends to be fair and generous. Terms like strong as in virtuous, and strong willed, and strongman are not synonymous. Therefore it doesn't make any sense to compare the term strong as in virtuous to the term strongman just because they both contain the word "strong". Otherwise one might as well throw strong odor into the mix.

Huh. Well that is an interesting view, but that was not my point. My point is that being mediocre and being a strongman are not mutually exclusive. In point of fact I think they go hand in hand.

Hentenza · 2025-12-03T12:43:05-0600

Always in His Presence said:
Pulled from notes taken long ago - -

Often terms get used without full understanding of their meaning and use. The purpose is to explore what the term exegesis means.

Biblical exegesis (from the Greek ἐξήγησις, exēgēsis, meaning "leading out" or "explanation") is the critical interpretation and explanation of the text of the Bible using a systematic, disciplined methodology to determine the original intended meaning of the author as understood by the original audience.

Text-centered: It starts with the biblical text itself (usually in its original languages: Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek) rather than imposing external ideas onto it.

Historical-grammatical method: The most common approach seeks to understand:

What the human author intended to communicate

The historical, cultural, and literary context

The grammatical and syntactic structure of the original languages

The genre of the literature (narrative, poetry, prophecy, epistle, allegorical, etc.)

Objective as possible: Aims to let the text speak for itself rather than reading assumptions or theological systems into it (contrast with eisegesis, which means "reading into" the text).

This is important because proper exegesis is centered and focused on the TEXT of the Scripture verses. Many times people get the two terms exegesis confused with eisegesis.

NOTE: The main reason why I do not use eisegesis is because it calls for "reading into", or reading in one own ideas or Religious agenda.

Proper exegesis includes:

Textual criticism – Establish the most accurate original wording.

Translation / linguistic analysis – Study the original languages (syntax, semantics, idioms).

Literary context – Examine the passage in its immediate context and the broader book.

Historical-cultural context – Research the time period, customs, geography, politics, etc.

Genre analysis – Identify the literary form and its conventions.

Theological analysis – Trace themes across Scripture (canonical context).

Application – Only after determining original meaning do responsible interpreters move to contemporary significance.

Good post thanks. It is a good reminder for those that claim context but don’t exegete the verses (it is always verses not just a verse).

mourningdove~ · 2025-12-03T12:40:48-0600

Always in His Presence said:
The man who wears a 1,000.00 suit?

joymercy · 2025-12-03T12:40:12-0600

Dear Sue

Your works are truly a gift from God that He has supernaturally imbued into your soul.

Thank you so very much for sharing all of this with us, as this gift is meant to be shared.

He wants us to use our gifts, time and treasure to serve Him by reaching others with His love.

Your last song that you sang had me in tears as you sang to us from your heart.

It was the one you made on vimeo.

What a treasure you are creating for all of us and those to come!

Lukaris · 2025-12-03T12:35:45-0600

Thanks be to God: Father, Son, & Holy Spirit. Our Lord Jesus Christ Who grants our faithful priests wisdom to witness to His holy word.

Proverbs 2:5-11

Hans Blaster · 2025-12-03T12:17:48-0600

PloverWing said:
Hey, me too, on both counts. I wonder if we ever met under our real names there...

I think I only posted a couple of times and it was definitely through my university account. (And about 30 years ago.) I was more of a reader than a poster.

Hans Blaster · 2025-12-03T12:14:42-0600

Always in His Presence said:
from the link:

WASHINGTON – Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on Tuesday was given a final copy of the completed Defense Department Inspector General report that examined his sharing sensitive military information on a Signal group chat back in March, according to two people familiar with the investigation.

Are they the same people who said Trump was looking to replace Hegseth? How many times do people need to be embarrassed before they stop taking information from unviable, unsubstantiated sources?

You could try working out who might have that information. (It is an intermediate bit of media literacy.)

For starters:
People in the SECDEF's office like his top aides, admins, chief of staff. They would likely know that a report was delivered.
Top ranking DOD officials like the Deputy Secretary, or the service branch secretaries. A good chance they would know about a delivered report.
The investigative team definitely knows.
The heads of the Senate and House Armed Forces committee (both parties) might also know by now as they will certainly be receiving the report at some point.

You could check the bios of the reporters. In this case both are Nat. Sec. reporters so that doesn't narrow anything (they typically have contacts with the related members of Congress, not just the Pentagon). If there was a "Congressional reporter" on the byline then we could be certain that one of the sources was from Congress.

Finally how do the reporters cite their sources? In this case with a rather bland "sources familiar with the investigation". Not particularly revelatory. This could even include private defense attorneys if any one has them.

If I had to guess, there is a Pentagon source and a Congressional one with one of the two having an existing "non-attribution" agreement with the report to let them know when the report is finished, followed by confirmation from across the Potomac.

Delvianna · 2025-12-03T12:11:33-0600

There are instances of people in scripture quoting secular sources because that truth was correct but that doesn't mean the entirety of that writing is correct. For instance, Paul quotes the Greek poet Aratus in one of his poems "For we are also his offspring" but the poem was to Zeus. Paul repurposed it, but that doesn't mean we should go and accept Aratus's poem to Zeus and start incorporating it or believing in it.

The book of Enoch is widely regarded as a Pseudepigrapha. One reason why it was not written by Enoch is because it's in Aramaic (specifically the dialect that puts it around Daniels time) which puts the writings MUCH later. Now, as far as the "many authors" account, is because the styles, focus, and context changes. If there was a single author, it wouldn't do that. That's not even taking account of the inaccurate origin of evil vs what the bible says. There's a lot of scriptural problems between what the bible says and what the book of Enoch says. Examples:

1. Enoch (1 Enoch 6-8) says the primary source of corruption is the rebellion of 200 angels who had sex with women.
Scripture says its the fall of Adam and Eve due to sin. (Genesis)

2. (Pure blasphemy) Enoch (1 Enoch 37-71) says the heavenly figure of the "Son of Man", the "Elect One" and the ultimate judge is Enoch himself (1 Enoch 71:14)
Scripture says the "Son of Man" is Jesus (Mark 2:10, Mark 14:62, Mark 10:45, John 8:28)

It comes down to, which do you believe? The scriptures, or the book of Enoch because I choose the bible. Just because Jude referenced it, doesn't make the whole dang thing correct.

Unqualified · 2025-12-03T12:06:43-0600

I pray for a healing for this person, body, mind, spirit. I pray he would relate to the supernatural for help and go to the eternal for strength to continue and not to do anything rash. I pray he would look to you lord to recharge his batteries of resistance to his hopelessness. It is a fight, please look to God it’s not his fault. It’s meant to turn you to him in an intimate way. God has not left you, you need Him. Where God has provided, He will equip you for a fighting chance, for a purpose. Your suffering is not for nothing. Please help him see oh God. Please give him joy in trials and pleasure in afflictions. Turn him back to you. In Jesus Name.

FreeinChrist · 2025-12-03T11:57:15-0600

ADVISOR HAT

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Hentenza · 2025-12-03T11:51:27-0600

Perpetual Student said:
I kindly ask you to reread the post you reacted to. And my previous posts in this thread.

Ok. The messages are below. What did I miss?

Hentenza said:
Look up International Law and War law. Unless the survivor pauses an imminent danger then the shooting is illegal. This is designed for reciprocity during war.

Personally I have no problems taking the war on drugs to them but it is illegal to shoot survivors.

Perpetual Student said:
You realize that you will soon be labelled as a Hamas supporting terrorist lover. How many American flags have you been burning lately?

Michie · 2025-12-03T10:40:25-0600

The Kukah Centre (TKC), a Nigeria-based public policy institute, has responded to what it describes as a “mischaracterization” of the remarks of its founder, Bishop Matthew Hassan Kukah, about the alleged genocide of Christians in the West African nation.

In a press release on Tuesday, the executive director of TKC, Father Atta Barkindo, blamed the media for its inadequate reporting of Kukah’s remarks, which he made during the launch of the 2025 World Report on Religious Freedom at the Vatican on Oct. 21, and in his subsequent address to the 46th Supreme Convention of the Knights of St. Mulumba (KSM) in Kaduna on Friday, Nov. 28.

Barkindo said what the media are reporting reflect neither Kukah’s remarks nor the context of his work spanning half a century.

“TKC has followed with humility and keen attention recent reports about remarks attributed to our founder, His Lordship Bishop Matthew Hassan Kukah, concerning the very current issue of the protection — or lack thereof — of the right to freedom of conscience, religion, and worship in Nigeria, particularly as it affects adherents of the Christian faith in northern Nigeria and related concerns about persecution of Christians,” Barkindo said.

Continued below.

Nigerian foundation defends bishop after remarks about Christian genocide

The executive director of The Kukah Centre blamed the media for its inadequate reporting of Bishop Matthew Hassan Kukah’s remarks that he made at the Vatican.

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Michie · 2025-12-03T10:38:25-0600

Prayers that God lays his healing hands upon your uncle and that Mary, Queen of Peace, St. Peregrine, the cancer saint, all the Angels and Saints, please help him. Amen.

JulieB67 · 2025-12-03T10:34:46-0600

Hentenza said:
but the wicked to eternal punishment.

In other words according your belief- "some to eternal life but the wicked to eternal life in hell" Even though not one verse when talking about eternal life contrasts it with eternal life in hell. It's always contrasted with perishing or death.

Hentenza said:
. During the second death all are resurrected,

There's not one verse stating that.

Christ states -Revelation 20:14 "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death."

Revelation 20:15 "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."

Revelation 21:1 "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Revelation 21:4 "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away."

Revelation 21:7 "He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son."

Revelation 21:8 "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."

Hentenza said:
Most updated translations use stole which translates as robes or garments.

Well, a deeper study on which manuscripts to believe in is sometimes in order. There are discussions on which Greek word is the correct one in this case.
I like the KJV just for the fact that every word at least can be translated back. Sure there's some mistakes in the KJV (Easter, etc) but not every translation is perfect. But at least I can take a verse with the word "taken" for example -if I take it back to the Greek we come up with multiple Greek words for just that one word. And with multiple meanings as they are being utilized in certain verses. I don't think the new versions can do that. But correct me if that's the case. But I believe given the context in verse 11 the word ἐντολή entole is correct one.

Revelation 22:11 "He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still."

Is that not a commandment to us? I believe so.

Miaomiao · 2025-12-03T10:31:30-0600

World War III will break out in 2026 and last for six years before concluding. The old world order will then come to an end. The Luciferian dark forces currently manipulating Western Nations from behind the scenes will retreat, the rule of God will be restored, and the world will be re-Christianized.

America's mandate has ended. The liberal international order, sustained by Pax Americana, will cease to exist after the war. The United Nations, secular nation-states, and liberal democracy will all be consigned to the dustbin of history.

A portion of the old state powers will be destroyed by nuclear bombs, born from the very darkness they themselves nurtured.

As a crucial part of the divine plan for humanity's redemption, he will personally choose a devout Christian monarch in the East. Holding his hand, God will raise up a universal empire aligned with Christian ideals and righteousness. Using this empire as a sword, He will judge this fallen world, and the monarchy-aristocracy system will be restored.

The future of the world is a New World Order led by the emerging Christian Universal Empire.

2037 (tentative) marks the beginning of the New World Order.
A new era of mythology has arrived.
The Eastern Crusaders will wage war against all antiChrist forces.

The future of the world is a New World Order led by the emerging Christian Universal Empire.

「“Who has stirred up one from the east,calling him in righteousness to his service?He hands nations over to him and subdues kings before him.
He turns them to dust with his sword,to windblown chaff with his bow.」(Isaiah 41:2 )

essentialsaltes · 2025-12-03T10:23:59-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Hey everybody, free pardons for public corruption!

Everyone is eligible! America deserves the best government somebody can buy.

Trump says he's pardoning Democratic Rep. Henry Cuellar after bribery indictment

JimR-OCDS · 2025-12-03T10:22:46-0600

The problem is that it wasn't a church as the article states it was. It more of a storage
area for non-Christians to keep the items they may have brought with them to the ecumenical
event. What they culprits did was wrong, and more likely turned non-Christians away from
conversion.

essentialsaltes · 2025-12-03T10:14:29-0600

As long as it's not a long con to eliminate or reduce Social Security or other public benefits, it's a good thing. It's not hard to make a lot of money on the stock market if you start early and leave the money there for two decades (or more). I was left some stock, maybe a few hundred dollars worth, in a single company by a great-uncle when I was an infant. It helped me put a down payment on my first house 35 years later.

chevyontheriver · 2025-12-03T09:53:00-0600

Michie said:
An overwhelming majority of college students believe that “words can be violence,” according to a new poll that found undergraduates are more reluctant to express their views on campus following the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

The Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression released a new reportTuesday examining students’ views on free speech following the assassinationof the TPUSA founder during a speech at Utah Valley University in September. The survey was conducted from Oct. 3-31, sampling 2,028 undergraduates nationwide and 204 students at Utah Valley University.

The survey asked students whether they felt more or less comfortable engaging in a variety of activities following Kirk’s Sept. 10 assassination. A majority of Utah Valley University students felt a “great deal” or “slightly” less comfortable expressing their views on “a controversial political topic during an in class discussion” (68%), expressing their views on “a controversial political topic to other students during a discussion in a campus common space” (64%), and expressing controversial political opinions to classmates on social media (65%).

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Over 90% of college students think 'words can be violence' after Kirk assassination: poll

An overwhelming majority of college students believe that words can be violence, according to a new poll that found undergraduates are more reluctant to express their views on campus following the

www.christianpost.com

If words can be violence then what is actual 'violence' violence to be called? Apologies to Whoopie.

Is burning a building down 'mostly peaceful'?

How soon will the Second Amendment to the constitution be repealed? Or, maybe more likely if the revolutionaries get their way, will free speech never make it into a successor constitution?

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