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Limited atonement !

That's not what it says. It says He loved the world. And the context shows that the world included those who were in spiritual darkness. A vast majority of the world was in spiritual darkness before Jesus came. As Paul said, the Gentiles were "without God in the world" before Jesus came and shed His blood to bring them near (Ephesians 2:11-13). That's why Jesus came. How can you not know that? You are blatantly twisting scripture to make it say what you want it to say.
Its what it means, He Loved His own in the world Jn 13:1

Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.
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The Trump DOJ goes "woke" and will target free speech.

I just watched the whole opening, the man said nothing objectionable… Not even slightly. He has nothing to apologize for, nor should he be pulled off air. If people are offended by this, they’re going to have a stroke over South Park.
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Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin's transgender roommate 'hates conservatives and Christians,' relative says

Having a trans partner doesn't mean one is gay. It's a notion that gay men, and men with trans partners, would reject as offensive.
I would say, no. And you're absolutely correct.

However, there are straight men who have reacted very violently when they realize they were intimate with a transgendered person. This is one sad example

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A conversation about unity.

communion comes after unity.

How can that be, when we know there are Wheat and Tares in the Church and we see Church leaders fall in horrendous circumstances?

Paul certainly spoke of many sicknesses on folk's not being in unity in the taking of communion.
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Spirit Airlines Jet ordered to alter course to avoid white and blue 747 at same altitude: "Pay attention. I'm sure you can see who it is."

Trump's Air Force One Has Close Encounter With Spirit Jet: 'Pay Attention!'

Air traffic controllers repeatedly ordered the pilots of Spirit Airlines flight 1300 to turn away from Air Force One Tuesday over Long Island, New York as Air Force One was carrying President Donald Trump, first lady Melania Trump and others to the U.K. for the state visit, CBS News reported.

"Spirit 1300 turn 20 degrees right," an air traffic controller radioed to the pilots, CBS News reported, citing recordings from liveatc.net. of the flight from Fort Lauderdale to Boston. Controllers said, according to CBS, "Pay attention. Get off the iPad."

When the Spirit pilots acknowledged the transmission, the air traffic controller replied: "Pay attention. Spirit 1300 traffic off your left wing by six mi--- or eight miles, 747. I'm sure you can see who it is. Keep an eye out for him—he's white and blue."

Preliminary flight data from Flightradar24 showed that the Spirit Airbus A321 and Air Force One were flying parallel to each other eight miles apart, and were 11 miles apart when they were on the closest path where they could converge.
Sounds like the atc was getting jittery because it was airforce1. Audio here: JonNYC (@xjonnyc.bsky.social)
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The Trump DOJ goes "woke" and will target free speech.

Carr signaled that an apology from Kimmel would be a "very reasonable, minimal step" but also floated a "suspension" by the network as a potential remedy. He also called on licensed broadcasters, particularly those not owned by Disney itself, to "push back" against the House of Mouse and threaten to preempt its content if action isn't taken.​

ABC suspends Jimmy Kimmel’s late-night show indefinitely over his remarks about Charlie Kirk’s death

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How is the Economy Doing Right Now?

Food prices are pretty high right now. My budget for groceries is $100 per month. I used to shop at Kroger, but I've had to switch to Aldi to get more groceries for my money. I am able to get enough food to last a month. Some time before the food prices went up I went mostly vegetarian, and it saved me a lot of money not having to buy meat. I grew up on depression era recipes and vegetarian recipes, so I've been using that knowledge to stretch my food. I'm not struggling...yet.
100 a month? May I ask where you live? Are you very old or very young on your own?


That's impressively small. Good for you!
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Radical Serge in Republican Voter Registrations Sin Carlie Kirk's Death

I'm not really a fan of dystopian fiction, so I'll just wait and see what actually happens.

-- A2SG, people switch parties all the time, I fail to see a major issue here....
Agreed.

People can change their minds and affiliation. It's no surprise.
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Trump calls Ilhan Omar a 'disgraceful, disgusting person' for response to Charlie Kirk's murder

Mr. President, Representative Omar: You both have a tendency to engage in inflammatory speech. Please put down your microphones and observe a moment of silence while the country buries Mr. Kirk. Thank you.
Amen.
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Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin's transgender roommate 'hates conservatives and Christians,' relative says

Family member says individual became 'radicalized' and influenced Tyler Robinson's politics over past year​


ST. GEORGE, Utah - The trans roommate of Turning Point USA Founder Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin "hates conservatives and Christians," one of his relatives told Fox News Digital in an interview.

The 22-year-old, who has not been charged and whose name has not yet been released by authorities, was in a romantic relationship with suspect Tyler Robinson, also 22, according to the relative. She said he is in the process of transitioning from male to female.

The woman, who asked to remain anonymous, told Fox News Digital her relative began to act differently when he turned 18 and said that he developed a hatred of Christians and conservatives.

Continued below.
No surprises here.
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Radical Serge in Republican Voter Registrations Sin Carlie Kirk's Death

You can think that all you want, but the results of the 2016 primaries paint a different picture. Trump won a plurality of votes in most states, getting 35-40% of the votes even when it was 4-wide.

Again, early in the primary, Trump was hovering towards the bottom, but every time a candidate dropped, Trump had a boost. Which tells me that when people's first pick dropped out, they went for option two. I was one of them. Yes, eventually he did come out on top, only after so many people dropped.
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This is the scariest verse in the bible for believers

Where I am, it feels like 95% of the people show no passion for the lost.

I was at one time supporting Ray Comfort in Christchurch.

At the same time I got really honest with God realising that I didn't have a passion for the lost.

Being really honest with God, I repented of this, and asked for it.

Within 3 days I had a dream in which I was being led by the hand to the very edge of the pit by an angel.

It was horrific... the stench - overwhelming.

I said to the angel 'do I have to go any further? - I had seen enough...

If you don't have a passion for the lost, get real and honest and ask for it.
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The Trump DOJ goes "woke" and will target free speech.

Technically speaking then what the right’s DOJ is being accused of has not happened yet either.
But they have announced they are aiming to, hence people’s concerns.

What you’re saying is like saying “you could have punched me in the face, but didn’t, so I am going to punch you in the face” followed by “just because I said I was going to punch you in the face you’re acting all weird around me, I don’t get why.”
Just in time fallacies permeate this forum anyway.
So might as well contribute to them, I guess. YOLO.
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BUSTED - 12 False theories refuted:

Rebuilding the Temple:
The prophetic Scriptures clearly predict that the Third Temple will be built and the sacrifices reinstated, in the final years leading up to the Return of the Messiah. It is clear, too, that there will be more than just the Jewish people living in the Land of Greater Israel. All the Israelites from all 12 tribes of Israel, plus those grafted in, will migrate to New Israel soon after the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, the terrible Day of fire and storms, that will clear and cleanse most of the Middle East.

The place of the new Temple, will be to the North of the existing Dome of the Rock, because this is in the direct line of the now sealed Eastern gate. The Bible, the Torah, and Josephus, all agree that the Temple was in that location.

The Jewish sage, Moses Maimonides, known as Rambam, declared that the Temple will be rebuilt and the exiles from around the world gathered back into the Promised Land.

The Messiah will appear and re-establish the glory of King David.

In the Talmud Yerushalmi, Rabbi Acha says; The Beit Hamikdash [Holy Temple] will be built first, before the advent of the Kingdom of David.

The Pnei Moshe states; The Land will be settled first, then the people will become prosperous, after that they will build the Temple and finally, the Messiah will come.

In the Mar’eh Punim the Gaon Moshe Margolis wrote that when Jacob predicted the future of Judah, he foretold that the Temple would be rebuilt first, then the Messiah would come. But the Jews are not prophesied to build the new Temple.

The whole scenario of the end times, has a logical sequence to it. Now in the latter days,, we can see how things are happening that will see a confederation of Islamic states and entities that will be motivated to get rid of the ‘ cancer ‘ in their midst, that is the State of Israel. The moment of their attack, is the moment that God will intervene. This great Day of the Lord, will take the form of a natural event: a Coronal Mass Ejection, a massive sunstrike of cosmic particles, causing intense heat and electrical storms. The attacking armies will be destroyed by their own weaponry, as they all explode before delivery. This literally fulfils the prayer in Psalms 83:13-18

Many prophesies speak of the regeneration of the Land of Greater Israel, “in a very short while”, Isaiah 29:17, after this great clearance and cleansing of the entire area.

Christian Israelites- “His people, who love the Lord and follow in His ways” will then gather “on the mountains of Samaria”. This is described in Ezekiel 20:34-38, Psalms 107
Over 40 prophesies describe how God’s holy people, every faithful Christian, will live in peace and security in their own Land. At last, they will be as God originally intended, “a light to the nations”, they will “exemplify My Holiness for all to see”. Ezekiel 39:27-29 [The attack by Gog/ Magog will come during this period]

WE will build the Third Temple, Zechariah 6:15, and “the splendour of this latter House will surpass that of the former”. Haggai 2:9 Zechariah 8:9-13 has wonderful promises of restoration and redemption; Courage! Do not lose heart!
Ref: logostelos.info
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Erika Kirk Delivers Powerful National Address, Says Movement Will Not Die

The context of being hired because of the color of your skin instead of your education level, talent and abilities is helpful to know.
Well, of course. All airlines are awarding people their wings simply because they're a minority. Ol' Jimmy nearly flew into the control tower on his last flight. His aced his last landing, but it was at the wrong airport. Buy hey, he's a black guy so we gotta do what we gotta do I guess.

Maybe somebody should take some time to explain to you what DEI means. Maybe they should explain that it grants equal opportunity to groups of people that otherwise might not have that opportunity. Absorb this:


Only 3.4% of U.S. airline pilots are Black, 2.2% are of Asian descent, and 0.5% are Hispanic or Latino. Women make up just 4.6%.

Now, do you think that us white guys are just natural born flyers and that's why we are so overrepresented? Or do you think that there might, just might be another reason. Me, I'm going Option 2. Because there's a boatload of reasons why minorities don't get the opportunity even to be given the chance. And one of them is people like Kirk making monstrously stupid comments like 'Whoa, there's a black dude at the pointy end. Are we going to get to Atlanta safely?'

So DEI gives more people the opportunity. If you don't know your flaps from your ailerons after a few lessons then you're out. Whatever colour or gender or minority you are. But if you get through an extremely demanding and lengthy course (not to mention the expense - see Option 2 again) then you get your stripes. Whatever colour or gender or minority you are. It is plainly idiotic for anyone to suggest otherwise.

If Kirk had had any sense then what he should have said is ' Hey, look. The pilot's a black woman. Getting your stripes is a tough gig, but to do it from her position really shows that she's got the right stuff!' But then, he wasn't the type of person that would think that.
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Eric Trump on Charlie Kirk’s Legacy and the Radical Left – “This Could Have Been the Greatest Mistake These People Have Ever Made” (VIDEO)

Idaho Trantifa drag queen teacher resigns after praising killing of Charlie Kirk

First link looks fun. Second two not so much. Would pick drag bingo or the parade.
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Trump says ‘we have to beat the hell’ out of ‘radical left lunatics’ after Kirk killing

Obama spoke at the Jefferson Educational Society. I haven't watched the entire thing. I was trying to post just the relevant clips from twitter about Charlie Kirk but I couldn't embed them as either x or twitter links.

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