I don't see a problem, unless you are stating it is a problem for you. Brother Fervent seems par for the course so far, I would agree with him generally speaking on this.
The scriptures - God's inspired word says...
Proverbs 18:13 He who answers a matter before he hears it - this is folly and disgrace to him.
You are saying it's not a problem to reply to a matter before hearing the facts?
God's word disagrees... and anyone else who agrees with you.
It has been repeatedly observed that when people jump into a conversation midway, they miss the context, and communication becomes problematic.
Jumping into a conversation midway without knowing the full context can lead to misunderstandings because you lack the necessary information to grasp the overall purpose or meaning of the discussion. When you enter a conversation late, you may understand individual words or sentences but miss the broader point, which increases the risk of misinterpreting facts or placing them in the wrong context. This is especially problematic when the information differs from your own perspective, as it can trigger competitive listening, where you focus on how the speaker is presenting their ideas rather than truly understanding them.
AI-generated answer. Please verify critical facts.
Could you elaborate on where the problem is you are encountering?
I'm not encountering a problem.
I'm pointing out why jumping into a conversation midway, having not heard the facts, is a problem.
You just demonstrated here, why it's a problem, by your asking me a question based on your interpretation of what I said, which does not have anything to do with what you think.
Do you see how misunderstandings are created, when one does what Proverbs 18:13 rightly advises against.
The scripture are always correct, and the wisdom of Solomon, in the book of Proverbs are tried and tested. It's God's wisdom, which we do well to listen to.
I'm going to take the liberty of making a guess here and say it looks as though Fervent is using the word "it" to refer to "the truth."
It takes engaging with the truth to make a determination of the truth?
That's even more difficult for me to understand what is meant, because I don't understand what is meant by "engaging with the truth", and I can't see how any engagement with the truth is necessary to determine it, or how it's even possible to engage with something if one doesn't even know what it is, or how to identify it.
Asking AI what does engaging with the truth mean?
Engaging with the truth means actively seeking and honestly confronting reality, not merely accepting beliefs based on emotion or personal preference. It involves a commitment to discerning what is accurate and factual, even when it is difficult or challenges one's own views, and requires a willingness to listen, question, and learn from others in good faith.
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Is that what you meant?
That left me frowning, because having a commitment to discerning what is accurate and factual, even when it is difficult or challenges one's own views, is making an honest search for the truth.
So, how can someone who is searching for the truth, of which they do not know what it is, actually engage with the truth?
Perhaps you can explain that first.
If that is the case, it makes perfect sense. He is responding to your OP according to your inquiry.
Fervent said:
the thread had been ongoing for a while when I jumped in, so my response wasn't directly to the OP
Are you saying
@Fervent is responding to the OP?
If I were to answer this question I would have replied exactly, and I do mean exactly verbatim with this statement or something very close. Maybe it wouldn't be as concise and precise, but meaning-wise, exactly that point.
Can you specify what statement you are referring to?
There are a lot of statements in the posts. I am lost as to which you are speaking of.
So this, essentially, is the short answer to your OP.
It takes engaging with it to make a determination is the short answer to the OP?
Then please respond to comment three in this post.
Correct me if I'm wrong Fervent
If it wasn't what Fervent meant, it is still what I would say. You have to engage with the truth to decide if it is the truth.
Okay. Thank you.
Please see my response in the third comment in this post.