SarahsKnight said:

Sir Dreyma, I don't really know if this fits your particular struggle that you've recently spoken on here, but, perhaps this can help with a little perspective
It's the beginning of an article I found concerning scrupulosity, Does God Love Me? Why We Doubt His Love - Scrupulosity.com
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Recently, a friend sent me the book, “He Loves Me! Learning to Live in the Father’s Affection.” In the first chapter, author Wayne Jacobsen compares our relationship to the Father’s love to a child pulling petals off a daisy.

“He loves me, He loves me not. He loves me, He loves me not.”

Circumstances and emotions dictate how we feel about God’s love towards us, and it turns our Christian experience into an ever-changing round of petal-pulling. He describes the chaotic ups and downs of our perception of God’s love:

In this sense, the Father’s love is subject to my own perception of it.

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Thank you for taking the time to share this. I appreciate it.

I think my struggle is a bit different than the one expressed here. My salvation doubts don't stem from external circumstances or emotions but my lack of good fruit (John 15:5-8; Matthew 3:7-10; Matthew 13:22; Galatians 5:22-24) and my failure to repent of certain sins (Romans 2:4-6; 2 Corinthians 7:8-10).

I go back & forth on this.
Gun to my head, I'll tell your it's eteneral torment.
But you just don't see 'eteneral torture in hell' spelled out in the Bible. Sometimes it makes me think it was a later invention.
But I don't think that's right. I think it is eternal torment.

I think it takes focus off the real Gospel which is on personal sin, your standing w/ God, & eternal salvation. I think it takes focus off the individual & the individual's sin. I think it limits sin to broad society issues. The only sin preached tends to be you having more then someone else. It doesn't look at other problems in your heart. What about stuff like sexual sin? Who God is? Not liking where your life is now? They don't look at God's soverentiy, his eternal redemptive plans, his requests for us to be thankful, etc.

I was 'stuck' in a social justice church for a few years & every message was on fixing society & blaming the rich. That's not the Gospel. The Cross puts us all on level-field & we all have different sins & struggles & are in need of it

As I've learned a little bit more about the Social Justice Gospel, I've learned it is a form of works-righteousness. I remember the preaching would always end 'we have to do better.' The Bible says we can never be good enough but can rest in Christ.

If people want to try to help fix society, that's great, & we s/ all do the best we can as individuals to do that, but the Message must always go back to who God is & what the Cross did

prodromos said:

But you don't claim a vast universe. You claim a limited dome with all the stars and the sun and moon contained therein.

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It depends on how big the firmament really is.

RileyG said:

Welcome!

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Thanks

Michie said:

I know how to feel about it. Stop politicizing our Savior. Ri-freakin-ridiculous.

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In that case, I 100% agree.

CTB777 said:

Hello Brothers and sisters

New to this forum. It will come in handy for the future if I have questions to ask or things on my mind or if I want to educate myself.

First off ( I will make another topic about this but I might as well ask here too) Can anyone help me with getting the bible on SD card or on something that I can listen to the Bible with head phones, MP3 player perhaps?

I'm useless when it comes to computers and gadgets so keep that in mind when dealing with me

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Welcome to CF!

About 9 years ago I went looking for the Bible in MP3 format, so that I could listen to it in the car and on my phone. I made sure to listen to samples and read reviews before I bought a set.

What I didn't know until I downloaded it is that the set wasn't separated by chapter or verse, it was separated by book. If I wanted to find a specific chapter I would have had to fast-forward through the book. I fixed this by using software to auto-split files by chapter by looking for the few seconds of silence between chapters. I then went through and renamed the files according to their book and chapter.

Alexander Scourby's audio bible seems to be a popular option, and they have a phone app, so no need to deal with MP3's.

I am a Protestant, & in addition to what's been said, I kind of agree w/ the Catholic idea of saying your sin to a Pastor. Not that b/c he can forgive sin, but just b/c it's good to. I wish this was encouraged more in Protestant churches

But overall I believe it's a general if you do wrong, don't be afraid to say you did it. & the Spirit working in your heart will lead you to

Since the Mi-Lai massacre back in the Vietnam days I'm certain that our military does desk work studying in classes on this kind of stuff. The delegation of six was clearly using their office to put in the head of the military some pretense to protest & disobey. Now if such soldier took that risk, they could be risking their career. For what? A bunch of cowards in Congress. My guess that bunch of cowards in such an event would clearly desert the scene before the [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] crows 3 times. Trump is having success on the foreign policy side & getting things done that no previous president would do. Most presidents want to be liked regardless of principle. Even back in Reagan's term he gave amnesty-his worst decision. But as VP Vance said ya know the US can't take in this much people without financial consequences & other consequences. It places a premium on space & frankly I like my open space. Why give employers the upper hand to hire cheap labor & then have a working population not pay taxes.

That sounds interesting. It's wonderful reading non-modern Christian works like that book you were reading.
I think some Christians were hostile to movies when they first were introduced. This is why for example there's not many in Hollywood. There's definitely a stereotype today Christians are against movies.
My own thought is they can be beneficial & good for what they are & they don't overtake your love of Christ & your own life or become an idol.

BTW, I like your avatar. I like Thomas the Train. Growing up we had a big book of all the original stories w/ that style art. Do you have model train sets?

Man I feel pretty guilty past couple days. I wish I could say I got corrupted by the world & my experiences, but a lot of it was me myself, my own heart

RocksInMyHead said:

Most of the people actually in the boats are just poor fisherman trying to make living with a side job (as opposed to the masterminds behind the scheme). But, regardless, does that really change the argument?

"Even the top Nazis were put on trial. How are these South American drug traffickers so much worse?"

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But also many Nazis were executed right in the camps. Likewise remember Osama Bin Laden. Obama gave the order. He didn't say oh let's have a show trial. And if you review very old film clips, Sec. Anthony Blinken also referred to the thugs as narco terrorists & a much younger Joe Biden did the same thing a long time ago. I think some people get mixed up in semantics. The advance of human civilization brings more ingenious types of committing terrorism. It could be slamming airplanes into buildings, starting a forest fire, drug-running, using a computer program to bring the grid to a halt. It's a shame that some people are backing terrorists & not seeing the forest thru the trees. You cannot negotiate with evil.

Interesting. Not sure how I feel about this.

Apple Sky said:

Jerry N was right.
We cannot see the same stars in the north as in the south & visa verse due to the vastness of the universe.

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But you don't claim a vast universe. You claim a limited dome with all the stars and the sun and moon contained therein.

Apple Sky said:

Scale, perspective and horizon

This is Utter Nonsense.

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Your claim is utter nonsense because it uses the above terms with no explanation of how they are relevant. It is empty words yet again.

That’s so odd. I’m happy she had the initiative to do it on her own!

jacorian said:

My understanding is that the survivors were trying to access another vessel. But as in any military or police operation, munitions firing is carried out to ensure complete safety. I.e. it's not a quota of shots & you're done.

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That's not correct.

Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of our death.
Amen

Me too!

My understanding is that the survivors were trying to access another vessel. But as in any military or police operation, munitions firing is carried out to ensure complete safety. I.e. it's not a quota of shots & you're done.

Praying for an end to this practice worldwide and for all post abortive women!

That’s unfortunate. Thanks for sharing.

rjs330 said:

If the OP is true I am totally opposed to the lowering of standards. There were other police agencies that did that because they couldn't get officers and it didn't go well. So, no, not a fan of doing this in any LE agency.

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I agree.