concretecamper said:

So I've challenged the status quo as an experiment and you all didn't disappoint.

You guys become unhinged when someone challenges you. And further, you have no independent proof other than what you've been told. And I have no independent proof for the opposite view. But I'm not unhinged like you all.

Sheeple is all I can say

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Nah. You didn’t do that at all.

You are not going to get many responses to your posts because most can see through your legalistic teachings. Christians are no longer under the law. I posted this for you a while back and you just ignore it. Maybe you can address it now.

The moral commandments of the Jewish law including the Ten Commandments were summarized in Jesus’s two commandments.

“Upon these two commandments hang the whole Law and the Prophets.””
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭22‬:‭40‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Which law and which prophets do you think Jesus is talking about? It says ALL of it not just some of it.

“For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.””
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭5‬:‭14‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬


The WHOLE LAW was fulfilled (completed) in ONE word. All of the law is now one word in the one commandment. Pretty cool that Jesus can put all 613 laws including the 10 commandments into one word. I guess that is what happens when Jesus is the only one that was ever able to keep it perfectly therefore nailing all of it to the cross.

If you want to stay in the law then go right ahead but the rest of us will live by the Spirit which is now the one that convicts us of our sins.

Tell me BroT, are those under the law able to confess their sin in order to be forgiven? Were the Jews under the law able to do that? Let me explain to you how is done after Christ sacrifice for the propitiation of our sins. It’s simple really.

“If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous, so that He will forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭1‬:‭8‬-‭10‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

With Jesus we still sin but ALL we have to do now is just confess our sins and He is faithful and forgives us. Can people under the law do that ? Of course not. But, you ask, how do we know that we are sinning without the law? Well, Jesus tells us of course.

“But I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I am leaving; for if I do not leave, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you. And He, when He comes, will convict the world regarding sin, and righteousness, and judgment: regarding sin, because they do not believe in Me; and regarding righteousness, because I am going to the Father and you no longer are going to see Me; and regarding judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged.”
‭‭John‬ ‭16‬:‭7‬-‭11‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬


Look the Helper that Jesus is sending, the Holy Spirit, will take the responsibility of convicting us of our sins. Why? Because we still sin just like you do and I do, but the good news is that we no longer LIVE in sin because of the guidance of the Spirit. Why would we need the law if we have something much better? So what happened in the past has been wiped clean by the grace of God through faith in Jesus Christ who died in the cross for the propitiation of our sins.

hedrick said:

You can make a reasonable case that orders to bomb boats with alleged smugglers are illegal.

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Alleged? Spare me.

I dont see any fishing gear. Perhaps it is under the stacks of drugs?

hedrick said:

You can also reasonably argue that use of the national guard in cities has often been illegal.

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Nope. They are protecting federal property. Completely legal. Otherwise, judge advocates would have advised the president otherwise.

concretecamper said:

So I've challenged the status quo as an experiment and you all didn't disappoint.

You guys become unhinged when someone challenges you. And further, you have no independent proof other than what you've been told. Sheeple is all I can say

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You did nothing of the sort.

concretecamper said:

Newsweek, CBC

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... yeah that tells me nothing of how you think the technology that got humans to the moon is 'lost'. Those are just names for news channels/shows.

So I've challenged the status quo as an experiment and you all didn't disappoint.

You guys become unhinged when someone challenges you. And further, you have no independent proof other than what you've been told. And I have no independent proof for the opposite view. But I'm not unhinged like you all.

Sheeple is all I can say

Warden_of_the_Storm said:

No tech has been lost at all. Where did you get that idea from?

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Newsweek, CBC

concretecamper said:

You proved nothing other than you worked on components which could have been door hinges

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lol Do you assume much? I’m an electrical engineer so door components would not have been my cup of tea.

concretecamper said:

And no, I do not deny we went to the moon.

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Surprise me.

concretecamper said:

I just found it curious that we lost the tech.

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What tech did we loose?

concretecamper said:

And, tin foil hat comment prove my earlier point about calling people crazy. And all I am trying to do is get you to admit that all you are doing is relying on "trust the science". Geez

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Well, you are posting crazy. If it fits……

Ave, María, grátia plena,
Dóminus tecum.
Benedicta tu in muliéribus,
et benedíctus fructus ventris
tui, Iesus.
Sancta María, Mater Dei,
ora pro nobis peccatoribus
nunc et in hora mortis nostrae.
Amen.

November 23, 2025 Day 2

Woe to me, unhappy being, so many years have I already spent on earth and have earned naught but hell! I give Thee thanks, O Lord, for granting me time even now to atone for my sins. My good God, I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee. Send me Thy assistance, that I may apply the time yet remaining to me for Thy love and service; have compassion on me, and, at the same time, on the holy souls suffering in Purgatory. O Mary, Mother of God, come to their assistance with thy powerful intercession.

Say one Our Father, one Hail Mary, and the Prayer to Our Suffering Saviour for the Holy Souls in Purgatory below

Prayer to Our Suffering Saviour for the Holy Souls in Purgatory
O most sweet Jesus, through the bloody sweat which Thou didst suffer in the Garden of Gethsemani, have mercy on these Blessed Souls. Have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

O most sweet Jesus, through the pains which Thou didst suffer during Thy most cruel scourging, have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

O most sweet Jesus, through the pains which Thou didst suffer in Thy most painful crowning with thorns, have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

O most sweet Jesus, through the pains which Thou didst suffer in carrying Thy cross to Calvary, have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

O most sweet Jesus, through the pains which Thou didst suffer during Thy most cruel Crucifixion, have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

O most sweet Jesus, through the pains which Thou didst suffer in Thy most bitter agony on the Cross, have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

O most sweet Jesus, through the immense pain which Thou didst suffer in breathing forth Thy Blessed Soul, have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

(Recommend yourself to the Souls in Purgatory and mention your intentions here)

Blessed Souls, I have prayed for thee; I entreat thee, who are so dear to God, and who are secure of never losing Him, to pray for me a miserable sinner, who is in danger of being damned, and of losing God forever. Amen.

November 22, 2025 Day 1

Jesus, my Saviour I have so often deserved to be cast into hell how great would be my suffering if I were now cast away and obliged to think that I myself had caused my damnation. I thank Thee for the patience with which Thou hast endured me. My God, I love Thee above all things and I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee because Thou art infinite goodness. I will rather die than offend Thee again. Grant me the grace of perseverance. Have pity on me and at the same time on those blessed souls suffering in Purgatory. Mary, Mother of God, come to their assistance with thy powerful intercession.

Say one Our Father, one Hail Mary, and the Prayer to Our Suffering Saviour for the Holy Souls in Purgatory below

Prayer to Our Suffering Saviour for the Holy Souls in Purgatory

O most sweet Jesus, through the bloody sweat which Thou didst suffer in the Garden of Gethsemani, have mercy on these Blessed Souls. Have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

O most sweet Jesus, through the pains which Thou didst suffer during Thy most cruel scourging, have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

O most sweet Jesus, through the pains which Thou didst suffer in Thy most painful crowning with thorns, have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

O most sweet Jesus, through the pains which Thou didst suffer in carrying Thy cross to Calvary, have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

O most sweet Jesus, through the pains which Thou didst suffer during Thy most cruel Crucifixion, have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

O most sweet Jesus, through the pains which Thou didst suffer in Thy most bitter agony on the Cross, have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

O most sweet Jesus, through the immense pain which Thou didst suffer in breathing forth Thy Blessed Soul, have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

(Recommend yourself to the Souls in Purgatory and mention your intentions here)

Blessed Souls, I have prayed for thee; I entreat thee, who are so dear to God, and who are secure of never losing Him, to pray for me a miserable sinner, who is in danger of being damned, and of losing God forever. Amen.

concretecamper said:

I just found it curious that we lost the tech.

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No tech has been lost at all. Where did you get that idea from?

Hans Blaster said:

Posting while unconscious is difficult. Have you mastered that "skill"?

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Thank you for proving my earlier point.

Yarddog said:

They should know what is required of them.

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To obey US laws. Yeah. To interpret the Constitution for themselves, no.

Yarddog said:

Collateral damage which result in death to civilians will occur in armed conflicts but we are not talking about that.

The Coast Guard and Navy are highly trained in how to stop alleged drug smugglers at sea. They do it hundreds of times every year. Very few result in deaths. They know what they are doing and what is expected of them.

Now, because Trump wants to blow boats up, instead of stopping them and arresting those on board, we see murder occurring.

Anyone of those boats could have been stopped and boarded, to confirm they were operating illegally.

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You're going to have to get the Supreme Court to call it murder, if you want any legal action taken.

Hentenza said:

lol How do you think components work? I even gave you the way out by telling you about the calculations for space flight and yet you decided to respond with nonsense. And now you are also a moon landing denier? Tin foil hat anyone?

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You proved nothing other than you worked on components which could have been door hinges

And no, I do not deny we went to the moon.

I just found it curious that we lost the tech.

And, tin foil hat comment prove my earlier point about calling people crazy. And all I am trying to do is get you to admit that all you are doing is relying on "trust the science". Geez

Andrewn said:

In Orthodox theology, the Ancient of Days is understood as the Son of God, the second person of the Holy Trinity.

In Daniel's prophecy, the Son of God appears as a distinct figure who approaches the Ancient of Days.

However, they are actually meant to be the same person.

How does Orthodox theology clarify this interesting situation?

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Why would the Ancient of Days and the Son of Man as appearing in Daniel be the same person? God the Father is not a human being, so I would never use the word 'person' for Him in this day and age (that would cause confusion given the definition of 'person' in any English dictionary). The ancient of Days and the Son of Man in this passage obviously are two distinct beings/identities though - and that's fully Biblical; one can see the same pattern in Psalm 110:1, and several others ..

concretecamper said:

Working on components doesn't qualify anyone. Hopefully Boeing doesn't lose the information like the Government lost the knowledge to go to the moon.

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lol How do you think components work? I even gave you the way out by telling you about the calculations for space flight and yet you decided to respond with nonsense. And now you are also a moon landing denier? Tin foil hat anyone?

BTW- the government dd not loose the “knowledge“ to go to the moon.

concretecamper said:

Are you being woke?

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concretecamper said:

Working on components doesn't qualify anyone. Hopefully Boeing doesn't lose the information like the Government lost the knowledge to go to the moon.

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concretecamper said:

No, sheeple at worst.

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... what on Earth are you even going on about?

Do you have anything to actually say about the topic of flat earth or are you here to just vent and rant?

concretecamper said:

Working on components doesn't qualify anyone. Hopefully Boeing doesn't lose the information like the Government lost the knowledge to go to the moon.

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Nobody lost anything.

prodromos said:

That would make me a liar.

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No, sheeple at worst.

Hentenza said:

I’m an engineer. I worked for Boing in the 80’s on components for the space shuttle. I know scientifically and by observation that the earth is a sphere. All calculations for space flight are based on a spherical earth. So yes, I know for a fact that the earth is a sphere.

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Working on components doesn't qualify anyone. Hopefully Boeing doesn't lose the information like the US Government lost the knowledge to go to the moon.

Hans Blaster said:

Your particular phrasing has a specific cultural context which is not the subject of the thread. We suggest you go find a different, and on topic thread, to discuss that particular bit of anti-science.

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Are you being woke?

Hentenza said:

We already received it by the grace of God through faith as a result of His ultimate sacrifice for the propitiation of our sins.

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E ph. 1:7 says In whom. we have redemption. through His BLOOD .the forgiveness of Traspasses. , according. to. the riches

of His Grace !!

Warden_of_the_Storm said:

Is Boing a special division of Boeing?

(I could not resist)

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lol I guess it is now.