Apple Sky said:

Yes - And never about the subject.

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Rubbish.
Now you're changing the subject - onto me and my posts - to avoid giving an answer.

Apple Sky said:

Why are her posts always about me & never about the subject ?

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They weren't about YOU - I don't know you as a person.
All of those things are statements you have made in your many posts/threads on this subject.

David Lamb said:

I don't think they are. As I said, they are about what you writ in your posts. If you read her post 2243 again, you will se that it is all about things you have written.

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Yes - And never about the subject.

Apple Sky said:

You totally did

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You said;

Apple Sky said:

Yes & I will carry on doing so, as this is not only one big lie it's also absurd, ridiculous & really one big joke & how anyone can believe such nonsense is beyond me.

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I replied;

Strong in Him said:

How anyone can NOT believe this scientific fact, when they know next to nothing about science, is beyond me.

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That is a response to your statement.

Yes, I added a few extra things, but they are totally relevant; just of the other statements you make which are beyond me.

If you want a more specific reply to your statement - which I doubt you do - I believe it because people that I trust tell me that it is true. I.E qualified school teachers, those who write science textbooks, my dad (scientist) and my husband (physics teacher.)
I know little about science/astronomy so I choose to trust those who understand it and/or who have studied and practice it.
I choose to believe the results of their experiments and calculations; I don't know enough to do my own calculations which might show otherwise.
I also choose to believe any information they may have received from satellites or drones.

You don't. You choose to believe your conspiracy theories and the utterances of Dean Odle and Rob Skiba.

Yttrium said:

I've been reading lately about suggestions to denaturalize legal immigrants. The Trump administration has already been working on revoking green cards and deporting legal immigrants in certain cases. I'd like to know what people around here thing about this, and specifically how far the government should be able to go.

Should the government be able to denaturalize legal immigrants if they've committed crimes in the US? Or for any reason at all? For that matter, should the government be able to revoke the citizenship of citizens born in the US and deport them? Although discussion of babies born in the US of illegal immigrants would deserve another thread, I wouldn't consider it to be off topic here.

Personally, I am currently against denaturalization unless fraud was committed during the application process (as per 8 U.S.C. Section 1451). As far as I'm concerned, once you're a citizen, you remain a citizen unless you voluntarily move out and revoke your citizenship.

Now, this isn't meant as a criticism of the Trump administration. They're exploring the legality of denaturalization, and that's fine. I would just hope that they run into a hard legal wall.

MSN

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I think immigrants should be asked, "If war broke out between the United States and your home country, which side would you support?" It the answer isn't immediately "The United States," they should leave.

Apple Sky said:

Why are her posts always about me & never about the subject ?

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I don't think they are. As I said, they are about what you writ in your posts. If you read her post 2243 again, you will se that it is all about things you have written.

Nithavela said:

Well, it makes sense. Once you run out of illegal immigrants to deport, you have to make some more. The quotas must be met so the ethnic cleansing machine can continue grinding, lest it turn on it's creators.

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Ethnic cleansing?

lismore said:

I'm thinking that you don't see mass un-vetted migration from various brutal conflict zones as being a positive?

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You are correct in your assumption. I do not see mass un-vetted migration from anywhere as being a positive. Especially when they immediately are subsidized with welfare. But smart immigration of people who can actually contribute to the country is a good thing.

David Lamb said:

I read it as being about what you write in your posts, not about you as a Christian person. Clearly what you write is connected to who you are, but as I saw it, Strong in Him was responding to your words about the sun being 93 million miles away: "this is not only one big lie it's also absurd, ridiculous & really one big joke & how anyone can believe such nonsense is beyond me." Surely that is the point of a discussion forum. Somebody, in this case you, posts something, and somebody else, in this case Strong in Him, responds to it. She was not changing the subject, as you both wrote about the notion of the sun being 93 million miles away. If she'd started writing about Father Christmas, or how to make Bara Brith, that would be changing the subject.

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Why are her posts always about me & never about the subject ?

JohnB445 said:

I do take advice from AI, but I learned to not treat AI like it is perfect in its answers.

I asked AI about forgiveness, it said it's a good thing, but not good to forgive those who are not remorseful, and who are still malicious.

I would find it hard to forgive those people, and very hard to forgive someone who took pleasure in hurting me.

What does the Bible say, am I supposed to really forgive a murderer that killed my mom and dad if it happened? It did not happen just as an example, what if the murderer doesn't take any accountability has no remorse, and the murderer took pleasure in his crimes. Am I still supposed to forgive?

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You can also ask AI to give you answers from a Biblical context or perspective.

Although ironically, not all parts of the Bible agree about the topic of forgiveness whenever stated.

But generally, AI will answer based on theological studies or typically from a "mainstream" Christian perspective. If the mainstream is guided by the Holy Spirit, you stand on solid ground. If not, you're in trouble!

Apple Sky said:

You totally did, you turned it all around about me as per.

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I read it as being about what you write in your posts, not about you as a Christian person. Clearly what you write is connected to who you are, but as I saw it, Strong in Him was responding to your words about the sun being 93 million miles away: "this is not only one big lie it's also absurd, ridiculous & really one big joke & how anyone can believe such nonsense is beyond me." Surely that is the point of a discussion forum. Somebody, in this case you, posts something, and somebody else, in this case Strong in Him, responds to it. She was not changing the subject, as you both wrote about the notion of the sun being 93 million miles away. If she'd started writing about Father Christmas, or how to make Bara Brith, that would be changing the subject.

Lily76_ said:

Sorry I am Dyslexic (it says in my signature) but thank you

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No, it is me who needs to apologise. I should have noticed your signature, and I am so sorry that I didn't do so.

Guojing said:

Of course he is quoting Joel, I am just asking you a simple question, what does Acts 2:16-21 says literally?

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And again, Apocalyptic Symbolism is not literal, it's literary.

Otherwise I agree with a LOT of what you're saying - especially with their vision of their military leader also being the "Day of the Lord". The OT often mixed images of their military leader and salvation together, and yet there was also the suffering servant images.
So I really empathise with those who didn't get it.

Guojing said:

If you don't want to do that, we can move on.

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So you're reading a certain interpretation of Daniel 9 and assuming it into Peter's mind via Joel.

Problem is - that sort of cosmic language often describes the fall of ancient empires - not just one prophecy in Daniel 9!

Isaiah 13:10​

"For the stars of heaven and their constellations will not give their light. The rising sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light."

It's similar language - and speaks of the judgement of Babylon and her celestial gods.

Ezekiel 32:7-8​

Pharoah and Egypt!

"When I extinguish you, I will cover the heavens and darken their stars; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon will not give its light."

Isaiah 34:4​

"All the stars of heaven will be dissolved. The skies will be rolled up like a scroll..."
It's about Edom - but it's also a sort of double-prophecy that hints at how completely universal God's judgement could become.
Falling stars often represent earthly rulers, armies, and states.
Their collapse is as dramatic as stars falling from the heavens.

Amos 8:9 - Israel!​

Assyria will take out the Northern Kingdom of Israel.
"And on that day,' declares the Lord God, 'I will make the sun go down at noon and darken the earth in broad daylight.'"
Noon = daylight = safety.
Right when they expect safety, disaster would come.

What does Acts say?

It's the same language of celestial upset and darkness to represent turmoil and the smoke of war below - how the sun and moon look through the awfulness of wartime smoke.

Acts 2:

I will show wonders in the heavens above
and signs on the earth below,
blood and fire and billows of smoke.
20 The sun will be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood
before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord.
21 And everyone who calls
on the name of the Lord will be saved.’


So again, what evidence do you have that the Apostles were thinking of Daniel 9 specifically?

essentialsaltes said:

Florida judge grants DOJ motion to unseal Epstein grand jury transcripts​

U.S. District Judge Rodney Smith – a Trump appointee – determined that the language of the recently-enacted Epstein Transparency Act "overrides" federal rules prohibiting the public disclosure of grand jury materials.

Smith is one of three federal judges asked by the DOJ to unseal grand jury materials in cases involving Epstein and his convicted co-conspirator, Ghislaine Maxwell. Smith is the first to rule. Two judges in New York are expected to issue their decisions next week.

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Grand jury proceedings in the United States are traditionally conducted in secret. This secrecy is designed to protect the integrity of the investigation, encourage witness cooperation, and safeguard the privacy of individuals involved.

Strong in Him said:

I'm not changing the subject.

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You totally did, you turned it all around about me as per.

7thKeeper said:

Oh right. Dressed way more sharply too.

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We need more Hugo Boss in our uniforms.

7thKeeper said:

Please sir, stop talking to the mirror.

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What in the world are you talking about?

I just realized why we are killing everyone instead of arresting them.
By killing them right off, President Trump dosen't have to pardon them after they get convicted.

Aryeh Jay said:

Yes, but those survivors were just nazis, they weren't drug dealers.

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Oh right. Dressed way more sharply too.

christianlloydteegardin said:

The Devil loves it when we assume things are neutral when they're not.

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I absolutely agree, like when we assume that the earth moves when it does not.

Apple Sky said:

Now who's changing the subject ?

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I'm not changing the subject.
You said that how anyone could believe the sun is 93,000,000 miles away - which is a scientific fact - is beyond you.
I replied that how someone could NOT believe it is beyond me - not to mention some of the other nonsensical things that you say.

Saying, "now who's changing the subject?" is changing the subject - you have no answer for what I've just said so you make a false accusation.

Also, "For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:" (Matt 6:14)

"And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you." (Eph 4:32) etc

Dr Derek Prince, who was a Greek scholar at Cambridge and knew other languages including Hebrew, has several teachings on youtube that could help. Some are only about 10 min.

Strong in Him said:

How anyone can NOT believe this scientific fact, when they know next to nothing about science, is beyond me.
How anyone can say that they want the truth and then say that, whatever evidence they are given, they are going to stick to their beliefs, is beyond me.
How anyone can say that we should believe a person they consider to be truthful because this person is a born-again Christian, yet say that another born-again Christian is a liar, is beyond me.
How someone can constantly make such sweeping statements like "NASA are liars", when they don't even know one NASA employee, never mind all 17,000+, is beyond me.
How someone can seriously believe that all that the governments of the world are interested in is trying to deceive the rest of us about the shape of the earth, is beyond me. You think that Putin and Zelensky, who are knocking 7 bells out of each other, sit round a table with Trump, Starmer, Netanyahu et al and say "how can we deceive them further this week?"
How anyone can follow Jesus who is the Truth, yet also admit they are addicted to conspiracy theories, which have nothing to do with the Gospel and are not important, is beyond me.

And yet here you are.

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Now who's changing the subject ?