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Prayers for the Departed

Novena for the Holy Souls Day 6 11-27-25

My Divine Redeemer, Thou didst die for me on the Cross, and hast so often united Thyself with me in Holy Communion, and I have repaid Thee only with ingratitude. Now, however, I love Thee above all things, O supreme God; and I am more grieved at my offences against Thee than at any other evil. I will rather die than offend Thee again. Grant me the grace of holy perseverance. Have compassion on me, and, at the same time, on the holy souls suffering in Purgatory. Mary, Mother of God, come to their aid with thy powerful intercession.

Say one Our Father, one Hail Mary, and the Prayer to Our Suffering Saviour for the Holy Souls in Purgatory below.

Prayer to Our Suffering Saviour for the Holy Souls in Purgatory

O most sweet Jesus, through the bloody sweat which Thou didst suffer in the Garden of Gethsemani, have mercy on these Blessed Souls. Have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

O most sweet Jesus, through the pains which Thou didst suffer during Thy most cruel scourging, have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

O most sweet Jesus, through the pains which Thou didst suffer in Thy most painful crowning with thorns, have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

O most sweet Jesus, through the pains which Thou didst suffer in carrying Thy cross to Calvary, have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

O most sweet Jesus, through the pains which Thou didst suffer during Thy most cruel Crucifixion, have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

O most sweet Jesus, through the pains which Thou didst suffer in Thy most bitter agony on the Cross, have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

O most sweet Jesus, through the immense pain which Thou didst suffer in breathing forth Thy Blessed Soul, have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

(Recommend yourself to the Souls in Purgatory and mention your intentions here)

Blessed Souls, I have prayed for thee; I entreat thee, who are so dear to God, and who are secure of never losing Him, to pray for me a miserable sinner, who is in danger of being damned, and of losing God forever. Amen.
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Free Energy & Tartaria

Sorry you seem to have though I was being bossy. I didn't mean it like that. I only made the suggestion so that the rest of us know whether the words you post are your own, or somebody else's.

No not at all, I know your not being being bossy & I appreciate you reminding me :)
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I am almost certain that I have read a post from you where you agreed that Genesis 1 does not mention the shape of the earth. Have you changed your mind? Which verse(s) Genesis 1 do you think teach the shape of the earth? I cannot find one. If no mention is made in Genesis 1 of the earth's shape, then somebody could believe that the earth was shaped like a pyramid and still believe Genesis 1.

Thank you for clearing this up for me, I thought strong meant that you can believe in a flat & a globe earth
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Free Energy & Tartaria

I watched a YouTube video of this guy using a drone to carry a mesh antenna up to the legal limit for drones, trailing a wire down to a series of home built instrument which indicate voltage, which successfully resulted in a couple of thousand volts.

So free energy, right?

Not really, as there was only a tiny current so barely 100th of a Watt of power, insufficient to do any kind of useful work. Plus his drone was expending a huge amount of energy to carry the weight of the antenna and trailing lead, way, way more than was being generated. Of course he could have used a balloon, but that ignores the large amount of energy necessary to extract helium from the atmosphere in the first place.
There simply is no such thing as free energy.
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Two National Guard soldiers shot in Washington DC

Amen! It blows my mind how certain people seem to have no problem with the Unuted States being flooded with ILLEGAL immigrants or with despicable, radical left policies and rhetoric that fan the flames of hatred, violence, lawlessness and treason. They only have a problem with Trump because he is standing up against the radical left's agenda to destroy America.

Come on, destroy America? They don't want to destroy America, they just want to reshape it to a woke gender fluid commie socialist atheist Islamic Caliphate where the wealth is distributed to those who deserve it most with abortions and gender realignment services are performed free of charge without parental consent at the government run indoctrination centers formerly known as public schools.

I'm sure it will be fabulous.
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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

This is exactly what you are suspicious of in post #684. They, just like you announce here, believe that they are lead by God and therefore immune to deceit.

CF Rules state "Stating or implying that another Christian member, or group of members, are not Christian is not allowed." Terms and rules
I don't know who the true Christians are, only the born again believer and God know. So I would never conclude that someone is not a Christian. But I can point out erroneous and unbiblical interpretations of scripture.

I'm not sure if you've ever heard of the expression "iron sharpens iron", this is where Christians encourage each other by sharing the truth of the gospel.
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How can a person believe in both ?
I am almost certain that I have read a post from you where you agreed that Genesis 1 does not mention the shape of the earth. Have you changed your mind? Which verse(s) Genesis 1 do you think teach the shape of the earth? I cannot find one. If no mention is made in Genesis 1 of the earth's shape, then somebody could believe that the earth was shaped like a pyramid and still believe Genesis 1.
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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

Or the likes of you. You've no guarantee that you aren't one of the Evil Robots, now do you?

Really? How interesting! How long have you been into amateur psychology?

Nah, I just sit back and marvel at the sort of rubbish that some folks believe that God does or doesn't do based on God-only-knows what. And part of the marvel is how that can blow and posture and pontificate s though they'd been given their, she we say, dubious, notions of what God will or won't do via Divine revelation of some sort.

How novel! I'd have sworn that He hangs on your every word. <Laugh>

The actually question isn't whether God should accept my counsel, but whether anyone at all should accept yours. I read the Gospels, and I read your beliefs, and I'm dogged if I see very much overlap there. Why did our Lord have to die if He had already who would roast and who wouldn't before He created Adam.

Could He have done that? Of course! Did He actually do that? If so, why? Why God through all the trouble of ctrting the illusion that there was hope for at least some of humanity, when in fact there was none? And why did our Lord say so much stuff that, if your pernicious beliefs are true, were simply false?

Nah, the trick is that if your rubbish was actually true, then the gospel is simply a practical joke played to see how many will fall for it.

Not with you, matey; on that we may rely.
The only way I could be one of the "Evil Robots", would be if God was a liar. But we know that it's not possible for God to tell a lie. He simply can't do it, so it absolutely impossible.

Here are just a few proof text confirming that I am already saved and nothing can change that fact. I'm a born again believer so all of the following verses are describing me.

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life".

John 5:24
"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life".

John 10:28
"And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of My hand".

1 John 5:12
"He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life".

1 John 5:13
"These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God".

As you can see, there are no "Evil Robots" mentioned so you'll have to go and do some more homework.

Psychology is quackery, it has nothing to offer Gods elect. It's based on human wisdom and philosophy, and both have nothing but false hope to offer their victims.

God had no other option, but to send His only Son to suffer and die for the salvation of His elect. (Which is a small number, referred to as the remnant). It was impossible to forgive His elect, without having His Son stripped naked, then tortured to the point where He was unrecognisable. His back had flesh hanging of it from being whipped, they ripped His beard of so his face had flesh hanging off it and He was spat on by countless people.

Don't you think that God would have spared His Son all of that suffering and indignity, if there was an easier way. The only reason it doesn't make sense to you is because you're putting yourself (a totally depraved) sinner in Gods place (a Perfect and thrice Holy God).
You are judging God with your fallen mind, so it's no wonder you're theology is so messed up.
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Two National Guard soldiers shot in Washington DC

When deploying them in our own country is in harm’s way that tends to show that their deployment is necessary
Amen! It blows my mind how certain people seem to have no problem with the Unuted States being flooded with ILLEGAL immigrants or with despicable, radical left policies and rhetoric that fan the flames of hatred, violence, lawlessness and treason. They only have a problem with Trump because he is standing up against the radical left's agenda to destroy America.
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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

That is independent of the rules and doctrines of their denomination? Focusing only on the Gospel of the Kingdom? Won't find one.
There is only One true Church and only one true gospel. The one true Church is not governed by any "denomination" or external authority. Our only authority is the Lord and His Word.

The Lord Jesus is the Head of the Church, and all of Gods elect from every age are members of His body. If you asked God to lead you to a true Church, He will. But it might not be what you're expecting and you may not like hearing the truth of the gospel.
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The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

If you don't agree with using affirmative care as their therapeutic solution, what therapy should they be offered?

I’m not being rude. It’s simple biology. Men are not women or vice versa. The truth isn’t rude.

Actions speak louder than words.
Of course it’s rude. If you say something that upsets people you are the one being rude regardless of your feelings.
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The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

Actually, it has happened in minors.

Jazz Jennings (real name Jaron Bloshinsky) received sex change surgery at age 17.

Now he is experiencing a binge eating disorder, multiple meltdowns, has no sexual function or arousal, and will never experience a normal sexual relationship because he was his parents “experiment.” His fertility, puberty, and health was exchanged for fame and fortune.

Shame on his parents!
This Jazz Jennings? The one going to Harvard?

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Two National Guard soldiers shot in Washington DC

Foolish actions like pointless deployments of our National Guard, putting them in harms way.
When deploying them in our own country is in harm’s way that tends to show that their deployment is necessary
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Pursue Peace, Exemplify Grace

“Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord. See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many be defiled.” (Hebrews 12:14-15 NASB1995)

Peace with all people must include peace with God. For we are never to compromise our faith and biblical convictions and the teachings of Christ and of his New Testament apostles in order to be at peace with anyone. We are never to compromise truth, righteousness, and moral purity so that others will like us, and so they will approve of us. But if we know that we said or did something to offend another person, because of something we did or said in the flesh, then we need to repent of our sin and seek their forgiveness and reconciliation. And they may still reject us, but we must do our part.

For we are also to pursue “the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord.” And sanctification is holiness and purification. For when we believe in Jesus Christ with God-gifted and God-persuaded faith in him, it results in us being crucified with Christ in death to sin, and us being raised with Christ to walk in newness of life in him, no longer to live as slaves to sin but as servants of God and of his righteousness, in holy living. And to be holy is to be separate (different, unlike) the world because we are being progressively conformed by God to the likeness of character of Jesus Christ, our Lord.

And if we are to see to it that no one comes short of the grace of God, what should that look like for us? Well, the grace of God is his kindness towards us who are sinners by nature. And in his kindness he sent his only begotten Son Jesus Christ, who was God in the flesh (fully God and fully human), to die on a cross and to put our sins to death with him so that, by faith in him, we will now die to sin and live to God and to his righteousness in walks of obedience to his commands in holy living and in surrender to his will. For this purpose Jesus gave his life up for us on that cross to free us from sin.

And God’s grace, which is bringing us salvation, is training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives while we wait for Jesus’ return. God’s grace to us is never free license to keep on living in sin and for self. For Christ “gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.” “For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.” (See Titus 2:11-14; Ephesians 2:8-10)

So, if we are to see to it that no one comes short of the grace of God, then we are extending ourselves to others to show them compassion and forgiveness of sins. This does not put our stamp of approval on their sins, for that is the opposite of biblical grace. So to show them the grace of God is not only in us forgiving them, but it is in us sharing with them the message of the gospel of our salvation that Jesus died on that cross, not just to forgive us our sins, but to deliver us out of our slavery (addiction) to sin so that we can now serve him with our lives in obedience to his commands.

We are never to become bitter, angry, and unforgiving people. But again, forgiveness and grace are not tolerance of deliberate and habitual sin. Grace never approves of sin, but it forgives the sinner who is repentant, and it gives the sinner a chance to change, and a chance to be forgiven and to live a new life in Christ Jesus free from addiction to sin, and free to now serve God with their lives in holy living. But forgiveness is not permission for the sinner to continue in sin without punishment. For all who make sin their practice, and not obedience, they will not inherit eternal life with God.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

His Strength Is Perfect

Steven Curtis Chapman

I can do all things
Through Christ who gives me strength
But sometimes I wonder what He can do through me
No great success to show
No glory of my own
Yet in my weakness He is there to let me know

His strength is perfect when our strength is gone
He'll carry us when we can't carry on
Raised in His power, the weak become strong
His strength is perfect, His strength is perfect

We can only know
The power that He holds
When we truly see how deep our weakness goes
His strength in us begins
Where ours comes to an end
He hears our humble cry and proves again

His strength is perfect when our strength is gone
He'll carry us when we can't carry on
Raised in His power, the weak become strong
His strength is perfect, His strength is perfect

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Pursue Peace, Exemplify Grace
An Original Work / November 27, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

Please share with all of us where your understanding of "Biblically correct" comes from.



Good, because the Lord Jesus is the only person who should ever do that, He is God.


"The “fear” that perfect loves casts out is the fear of God’s judgment. We know that Judgment Day is coming, but those who are in Christ know the love of God, which drives away fear of condemnation. The dismissal of the fear of judgment is one of the main functions of God’s love. The person without Christ is under judgment and has plenty to fear (John 3:18), but, once a person is in Christ, the fear of judgment is gone. He is reconciled to God, and “there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus”" (Romans 8:1).

"In summary, the word perfect in 1 John 4:18 means “complete” or “mature,” and the love that is referred to is God’s selfless agape love. The fear that this perfect love drives out is the fear of punishment. We have God’s promise that believers in Jesus Christ will not be judged with the world: “God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ” (1 Thessalonians 5:9; cf. 1 Corinthians 11:32). We can say with the psalmist, “In God I trust and am not afraid” (Psalm 56:11)."

What is the meaning of “perfect love casts out fear” (1 John 4:18)? | GotQuestions.org


Do you believe that you will know the truth when you hear it?


How do you know this?


Yes it does. 10 Key Bible Verses on Wisdom and Discernment
My understanding of Gods Word, comes from God, just as everything else does.

I don't know why you failed to accept the fact that "the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom". You tried outsource your response, by referring me to an unrelated bunch of verses which say nothing about hew fear of God.

I already know the truth, so I'm not waiting to hear about it.

Only Gods elect, (born again believers) know the difference between the true gospel and a false version of the gospel. This doesn't mean that I'm smarter than those who are being deceived by the wolves in sheep's clothing. It just means that I am le by the Holy Spirit, and He will not allow me to fall victim to the doctrine of demons.

Gods Word confirms that it's impossible to, deceive one of His elect.

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