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durangodawood · 2025-12-11T12:44:04-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
If you want to fight against a top-down GOP, it'll be hard to do that without a top-down DNC.

lol, I mean, in a different time and under a different set of circumstances, perhaps more age would be better.

Sadly probably true. Just like the Ds need to be competitive with gerrymandering even though they would abolish everywhere if they had their way. You have to play the game youre in and not some other ideal one.

ThatRobGuy said:
But we're approaching a time where two hot topics are going to be
1) Crypto-related matters
2) Artificial intelligence

And I'm thinking that in the next 3-5 years #2 will be THE paramount topic, and I don't think I'm saying anything controversial by suggesting that the "tech stuff" (especially new tech stuff) is more of a young man's game that younger people are going to be more familiar with as a general rule.

Yep. Its number one (of the obviously foreseeable issues). Funny tho how even among people most connected to the industry there's nothing like consensus about what its all going to mean. "Very serious" people see everything from heaven on earth to total human extinction.

ThatRobGuy said:
Same goes for the Senate, they have even a worse aging problem in the upper house.

I just don't think that crypto and AI are going to be effectively evaluated & regulated by a group of people who are in the age demographic that they often need to get a niece or grandson to help them figure out how to connect to their printer.

The young person advantage is less profound as every year passes. Soon even "old" folks will have come up in the digital/mobile age. I say that as a person who grew up with a rotary dial phone connected to a land line.

bling · 2025-12-11T12:43:20-0600

Dave... said:
Hey bling

I'm not sure what your point of contention is here. Elaborate on it if you have one. Right now I'm only guessing. Yes, all those verses say water baptism. Do you agree that Jesus did and still does baptize with the Holy Spirit in response to a genuine faith, which "places us" in Him, a spiritual "immersion" that makes us one with Him, the Body, the true Church? You'll notice that anything that I wrote that is between "quotation marks" are used in place of the word baptism, because they mean the same thing. Example....

This takes some explanation.

I see in scripture several different “portions” of the Holy Spirit. John talks about Jesus coming

Matthew 3:11 “I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

Baptism of fire is what?

Luke 12: 49 “I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! 50 But I have a baptism to undergo, and what constraint I am under until it is completed!

“Baptism of fire” seems to refer to the severe persecution which lots of Christians get to endure, but not every individual Christians will go through a baptism of fire, so will all Christians go through a baptism of the Holy Spirit John is referring to?

Numbers 11: 17 I will come down and speak with you there, and I will take some of the power of the Spirit that is on you and put it on them. They will share the burden of the people with you so that you will not have to carry it alone.

There are tons of scripture referring to the Holy Spirit, like in Numbers 11 the Spirit can be portioned out.

John 20: 21 Again Jesus said, “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.” 22 And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.”

John 14:17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.

John 7:39 By this he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time the Spirit had not been given, since Jesus had not yet been glorified.

Jesus could breathe on the disciples and they received some portion of the Spirit, but the indwelling portion which is always with them (yet can be quenched) had not yet come.

Acts 8: 14 When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent Peter and John to Samaria. 15 When they arrived, they prayed for the new believers there that they might receive the Holy Spirit, 16 because the Holy Spirit had not yet come on any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then Peter and John placed their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit. 18 When Simon saw that the Spirit was given at the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money 19 and said, “Give me also this ability so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.”

Acts 8 seems to be saying the Samaritans were immersed water baptized, but had not received the outwardly visible miraculous powers of the Spirit until the Apostles laid hands on them, so water baptism was around separate from Holy Spirit baptism. This is also seen in Acts 19: 4 Paul said, “John’s baptism was a baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in the one coming after him, that is, in Jesus.” 5 On hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 When Paul placed his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied. 7 There were about twelve men in all.

Acts 19:6 is not a continuation of Acts 19:5 with some translators putting an period or a conjunction between them showing separation. Acts 19:6 is no a description of the baptism, but you might want further study on this.

Acts 10: 44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came on all who heard the message. 45 The circumcised believers who had come with Peter were astonished that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on Gentiles. 46 For they heard them speaking in tongues and praising God. Then Peter said, 47 “Surely no one can stand in the way of their being baptized with water. They have received the Holy Spirit just as we have.” 48 So he ordered that they be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked Peter to stay with them for a few days.

Acts 11: 15 “As I began to speak, the Holy Spirit came on them as he had come on us at the beginning. 16 Then I remembered what the Lord had said: ‘John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.’ 17 So if God gave them the same gift he gave us who believed in the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I to think that I could stand in God’s way?”

Peter is water Baptizing and the Spirit seems to be Spiritually baptizing these gentiles first. Notice Peter has to go back to Pentecost to get a similar “Baptism of the Spirit” example so it was not regularly happening.

A book could be written on Christian water baptism and the Holy Spirit baptism, which seem to be two different actions.

Dave... said:

1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink into one Spirit.

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Christian water baptism included the Spirit as Paul points out in Acts 19: 1-7. As shown in Acts 8 there was definitely Christian water baptism and only with the apostles laying on of their hands was Holy Spirit baptism given.

Dave... said:

My translation: For by one Spirit we were all "placed into" into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink into one Spirit.

another....

Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

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Not everyone receives a baptism of fire or the Holy Spirit, but all true believers do receive the much more important indwelling Holy Spirit.

Are you seeing obvious miraculous Holy Spirit miracles being performed today that can be scientifically verified (something the Baptism of the Holy Spirit produced in the first century)?

Dave... said:

My interpretation: I indeed "immerse" you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will "immerse" you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

Sorry, it sounded to me like you're playing both sides of the fence. So many today are wrongly taught that water baptism is what initiates the Spiritual baptism. If you're being water baptized, you already have faith, and are already spiritually baptized by Jesus with the Holy Spirit before you hit that water. Agree?

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I do not limit God/Spirit’s actions, so when a person obtains the power of the indwelling portion of the Holy Spirit is up to Deity and does not have to precede water baptism.

Dave... said:

Sorry bling, I disagree. I believe that the water represents God's judgment. That's what the flood was. "In Christ", our Arc, we are protected from that Judgment just like Noah and family were. It's a perfect picture of our Spirit baptism. Not the removal of filth from the flesh is just like saying not water baptism. Just so there was no misunderstanding.

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Where the Samaritans in Acts 8, Christian water baptized without being given any miraculous Holy Spirit powers?

Dave... said:

Hey bling, the circumcision's comment was just a point of possible interest that I threw in there.

OT water baptism was simply identifying with a persons teachings publicly. That's all it is. A public testimony. That idea carried over to the NT. It pictured outwardly what had already happened inwardly as a result of faith. It identified us with Christ Jesus publicly. Some were baptized only into the name of Jesus because the Holy Spirit and the Father were already understood to be a part of them. The point of contention with the public testimony of these OT believers would have been the name Jesus. Others, found it better to publicly identify with the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, since they were never believers in the OT.

OT believers were baptized into the name of the teacher they were under. Remember Paul confronting the Corinthians for arguing about being baptized by Paul or Apollos? It all came from that. The one true baptism is the one BY Jesus with the Holy Spirit. It's a spiritual baptism initiated by faith. Water baptism comes after that fact as a public testimony. Paul even finished by saying that "Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel". That would be a very, very odd thing to say if water baptism had anything to do with anything beyond a public testimony.

1 Corinthians 1:12-17 Now I say this, that each of you says, "I am of Paul," or "I am of Apollos," or "I am of Cephas," or "I am of Christ." Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, lest anyone should say that I had baptized in my own name. Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas. Besides, I do not know whether I baptized any other. For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of no effect.

bling, I've seen this with Catholicism before, they are not really doing what they are doing, and not really saying what they are saying. You're language just sounded very familiar to the kind of language that they so often use, hence the "playing both sides of the fence" comment. Sorry if I misunderstood.

Dave

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David, you are misunderstanding.

Paul did not want the people he converted and/or physically baptized by him, to boastfully say “I am a Paul follower.”

Paul did not want to physically baptize anyone for the same reasons Jesus did not baptize others.

Was Jesus physically water baptized as an example for us?

Jesus commands His disciples: “19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit”. We are to baptize them, but if the Holy Spirit is actually baptizing them, how can we follow that command?

DaisyDay · 2025-12-11T12:43:16-0600

BPPLEE said:
It's apparently not him but the guy who posted the video is walking free

Somali Student in Minnesota Rages on TikTok, Vowing to Shoot ICE Officers

Somali college student Hasan Mohamed faces massive backlash for threatening to shoot ICE agents in a viral TikTok rant; his apology is slammed as a 'Logan Paul' copy.

www.ibtimes.co.uk

I don't think that's a good excuse to rough up this guy.

jacks · 2025-12-11T12:42:56-0600

Interesting article, one thing I saw was that there is something called a "Snake Bandage". Used to wrap around the limb and slow the spread of venom. Much different than the razor blade and suction kits, they sell in the states. Looks like a much better idea.

AstralHammer · 2025-12-11T12:42:33-0600

CoreyD said:
One thing I can tell you, as a long time gamer, is that games made in the 20th century are not very creative.
The creative minds of the past, made, and still make the best games. So, if you want to find a game that's not a bundle of meaningless confusion... The only downside, is that most aren't cheap.
However, there are tons of freeware games out there... I just remembered... most people don't have Windows XP, or Windows 7, so most of those games won't play on a new Windows OS.
This is what I mean by getting left behind.

I wonder about these in terms of an older OS. I have came across these sites in the past but have not played any games off of them yet.

I believe these are all free. They even have Below the Root, an old Commodore 64 game I remember from when I was a kid.
My Abandonware: My Abandonware: because old video games were better

DOS Zone | DOS games in browser DOS Zone is free too. If you want to keep your saves in the cloud, it’s dirt cheap. Like $1 a Month.

BCP1928 · 2025-12-11T12:36:52-0600

essentialsaltes said:
“As to whether or not we should support schools that have Christian values or that want to be a specific orientation to a religion of some sort, just so everyone’s aware, pre-the 1960s in every public school they taught the Bible and they prayed every morning in the classrooms, which was very much a part of our national heritage that every school promoted the values of the Ten Commandments and the Bible,” D’Avola said. “And they were funded. So there you go.”

Every school where? My personal experience of public school dates back to 1948 and includes attending it, teaching in it and having children in it in five different states. I have never encountered prayer or Bible study in any public school.

Landon Caeli · 2025-12-11T12:36:41-0600

Stopped_lurking said:
So what do you mean when you say that untramelled migration, and backing dictatorships are aligned with European politics? If you have data for the changing sentiments of the people of the different countries, we can discuss that. But that is of course reflected in how people vote, so what is the difference between that and policy?

The difference is that policy lags behind. We can see where things are headed, in the near future, by looking at the Universities, and the kinds of clubs, societies, programs and mood shifts within them. Policy might take 5 or more years to catch-up, but it eventually does. I think it can be figured out right here, where Europe is headed, but it's not going to be a simple task. We'll have to put in the time, together.

Universities teach the grade/high school teachers, who, in turn, teach the children. This is the catalyst for widespread political and ideological change in any given society. And it doesn't take long.

CoreyD · 2025-12-11T12:33:16-0600

AstralHammer said:
It's public. It's ok.

One thing I can tell you, as a long time gamer, is that games made in the 20th century are not very creative.
The creative minds of the past, made, and still make the best games. So, if you want to find a game that's not a bundle of meaningless confusion... The only downside, is that most aren't cheap.
However, there are tons of freeware games out there... I just remembered... most people don't have Windows XP, or Windows 7, so most of those games won't play on a new Windows OS.
This is what I mean by getting left behind.

johansen · 2025-12-11T12:32:23-0600

narnia59 said:
Fortunately for me, you are not the One who can judge that.

I would however caution against believing that you can put yourself in His place by making such a claim.

go read the chapters.. they talk all about it.

heart of flesh to replace your heart of stone.
a new spirit that calls out to your father..

etc.
its pretty simple, those chapters are fulfilled in Jesus's baptism of the Holy Spirit.

there was a partial fulfillment in John's baptism for repentance. which seems to be what many are stuck in.

anyone can walk into a church and get baptized. it doesn't do anything for someone who is not willing to actually follow Jesus.

Say it aint so · 2025-12-11T12:31:49-0600

What's that leopards eating my face line again?

Dan Perez · 2025-12-11T12:30:57-0600

Dave... said:
Hey Dan.

The wheat and the chafe was just an expression that I borrowed from Scripture to make a distinction. People of the OT, believers, thought that they were saved because they were physical Israel. That's who Peter is speaking to in Acts. Physical Israel has wheat and chafe. Spiritual Israel only has wheat. In Acts 2:36, 41 Peter is calling physical Israel to Spiritual Israel by faith in Jesus. Jesus is the the Body of Christ. Only those placed into Him were part of that Spiritual church. That began at Pentecost when the Agent of that placing into was given, the Holy Spirit. Saul died having not received that Promise.

1 Tim 1:16? Did you quote the wrong verse?

Romans 9:6-13 Not all Israel is Israel.

And when. those in Acts 2:36. and in verse 37 what will we do ??

Then in verse 38 , Peter says. , REPENT and be BAPTIZED. for. the name of JESUS CHRIST. and you will receive the gift of. the HOLY SPIRIT

But b. there were only about 3000. souls were added. IN Acts 28:25-28 n. Israel was set aside and ISA 6:1-13 !!

Which SAUL ARE YOU TAKING ABOUT ??

dan p

MarcusGregor · 2025-12-11T12:29:08-0600

Judge orders Kilmar Abrego Garcia to be immediately released from immigration detention

The Department of Homeland Security is criticizing a judge's order that Kilmar Abrego Garcia be immediately released from immigration detention and vows to oppose it.

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BPPLEE · 2025-12-11T12:27:30-0600

MarcusGregor said:
If it was him do you think he'd be walking free right now?

It's apparently not him but the guy who posted the video is walking free

Somali Student in Minnesota Rages on TikTok, Vowing to Shoot ICE Officers

Somali college student Hasan Mohamed faces massive backlash for threatening to shoot ICE agents in a viral TikTok rant; his apology is slammed as a 'Logan Paul' copy.

www.ibtimes.co.uk

narnia59 · 2025-12-11T12:26:58-0600

johansen said:
well, then you are not born again. read Ezekiel 35 through 38.

Fortunately for me, you are not the One who can judge that.

I would however caution against believing that you can put yourself in His place by making such a claim.

FAITH-IN-HIM · 2025-12-11T12:24:41-0600

Landon Caeli said:
Allowing untramelled migration is also a branch off the woke tree. It has a lot of nasty branches, all stemming from a very *toxic* form of empathy. Other branches include supporting terrorists and even turning a blind eye towards welcoming them in, backing dictatorships, reverse racism, and rooting for the enemy out of "compassion"...

European politics seem to align with all of this, and may even be the source of it through media infiltration from the inside out. A covert tactic perhaps? Or maybe the result of intercommunication altogether in a more connected world, who all seem to speak our language. Maybe all these things.

With the exception of roughly 10%–15% of American or European liberals, support for unrestricted migration is rare. Your assertion presents a misleading narrative, though you are entitled to your opinion.

Personally, I welcome immigrants from all regions of the world and support providing a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants who have lived in the USA for many years. I have voted for several Republican presidents who held these views; one president I supported twice referred to himself as a "compassionate conservative." Anyone who claims that compassionate conservative George W. Bush is "woke" is entirely mistaken.

Just because you disagree with these policies does not make them "woke."

MarcusGregor · 2025-12-11T12:23:23-0600

BPPLEE said:
He looks like the guy who made a video stating that he was going to ambush any ICE agents that came to the area and shoot them.
I'm not certain it's him, I will see what I can find

If it was him do you think he'd be walking free right now?

AstralHammer · 2025-12-11T12:21:10-0600

CoreyD said:
I'm not going to take a look at the list, because I might be critical, and then your list might be blank.
So, I'll let you decide... unless you really would like me to evaluate it from the scriptural perspective.

It's public. It's ok.

Factotum · 2025-12-11T12:19:05-0600

Which one would you consider to be the nba's G.O.A.T. player?
OR, maybe you believe its someone else ...who?

HARK! · 2025-12-11T12:17:03-0600

Gold is rocketing up too today.

Landon Caeli · 2025-12-11T12:15:59-0600

Stopped_lurking said:
Could you please break that down per country so that I can get to what you are talking about? What does even untramelled mean? What countries support terrorists or turn a blind eye of welcoming them in? What countries in Europe back dictatorships?

What do you mean with European politics?

Edited to add!
Untramelled seems to mean unrestricted, what country in Europe have ever had unrestricted immigration? Not Sweden at least.

When you ask me to break down which countries I'm talking about specifically, that means I'll be restricted to talking about "policy", per government, and not the changing sentiments of the Euroean people's. There's no way I'd be willing to baracade myself into a narrow conversation like that. Especially not when people are the ones who change policy over time.

We can see how wokism, amongst the people, have already changed the face of the democratic party, here in the United States, in the most drastic of ways.

Instead, I would prefer to focus on the root of all political change within a democratic society, which is the people themselves. I'm sure we can all see in our countries how opinions have evolved, and how politics follows. I'm sure we can all see how we're now communicating across the Atlantic.

...So we should all be paying close attention, and if people from across the Atlantic are forming political alliances with people here in the U.S., this should be noted, and understood.

BPPLEE · 2025-12-11T12:15:02-0600

DaisyDay said:
ICE agents tackle, arrest American citizen in Minneapolis

Federal immigration agents tackled and arrested a Somali American man in Minneapolis on Tuesday and detained him for about two hours for no apparent reason other than his ethnicity.

www.mprnews.org

Federal immigration agents tackled and arrested a Somali American man in Minneapolis on Tuesday and detained him for about two hours for no apparent reason other than his ethnicity. The man who was arrested said that the agents had trouble finding the Bishop Henry Whipple Federal Building at Ft. Snelling while driving him there.

The 20-year-old was not suspected of any crime, and described his ordeal during a Wednesday news conference alongside Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey and Police Chief Brian O’Hara, who each denounced the agents’ actions.

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This is state sponsored terrorism.

He looks like the guy who made a video stating that he was going to ambush any ICE agents that came to the area and shoot them.
I'm not certain it's him, and since he only gave his first name I can't confirm

johansen · 2025-12-11T12:12:26-0600

well, then you are not born again. read Ezekiel 35 through 38.

narnia59 said:
There is no such thing as "baptism of the heart" mentioned in Scripture. Just Baptism. And Baptism by definition is a ritual with real water.

bbbbbbb · 2025-12-11T11:56:22-0600

Then who can be saved?

SabbathBlessings said:
The next verse begs to differ Mat5:20. The Pharisees were keeping their man-made traditions over obeying the commandments of God (Jesus quoting from the Ten Commandments) and Jesus in His own words said it made the word of God of no effect by keeping their traditions over obedience to God's commandments Mat15:3-14 Mark7:7-13, if our righteousness does not surpass theirs we will be no means enter into the Kingdom of heaven hence the warning in Mat5:19

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essentialsaltes · 2025-12-11T11:55:38-0600

Not so surprising: Cole thought Trump won the 2020 election.

More surprising: Brony.

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