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Hentenza · 2025-11-15T08:20:02-0600

SabbathBlessings said:
There is no need to re-interpret what God spoke, there’s power in His word its very plain all we need to do is believe and do what He asks through love and faith.

There is a need for you to evaluate your interpretation of God’s words. You are twisting God’s message. Start living in the new covenant and let go of what has become obsolete.

BelieveItOarKnot · 2025-11-15T08:17:30-0600

Dan Perez said:
And I do wear glasses BUT. in HEB 9:18 it says ::
# 1. WHERE. UPON //. HOTHEN. is a ADVERB

# 2. NEITHER // OUDE. is also a ADVERB

# 3. THE. // is a DEFINITE ARTICLE. , in the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SIGNULAR

# 4. FIRST // PROTOS. in the NOMINATIVE CASE. , in the SINGULAR

# 5 ( TESTAMENT }. WAS. DEDICATED // EGKAINIZO in. the PERFECT TENSE. invite INDICATIVE MOOD invite SINGULAR

# 6. WITHOUT. //. CHORIS. is an. ADVERB

# 7. BLOOD //. HAIMA. is a GENITIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR in. the HEUTER

# A And what it means is the OLD COVENANT. was set aside because you needed a Priest and ALTER for

a blood sacrifice for sins

# B. BUT all animal sacrifice does not give life since Christ had not yet. died on. the CROSS

# C. AND SHED HIS BLOOD. on. the CROSS. will give ETERNAL LIFE

# D. The only be be saved is what wrote wrote I. ROM 10:9 and 10. .

# E And salvation is ONLY FOUND in. Pauls 13 letters to the BODY OF CHRIST

# AND the GOSPELS and do NOT TEACH THE BODY. of Christ !!

dan p

You seem to be stuck in complication and self justifications land dan

"-everyone who loves knows God and is born of God" capital word spellings not required, but I like the bold

Hentenza · 2025-11-15T08:16:38-0600

Freth said:
God does not change.

Let’s cut to the chase. You guys continue with the Strawman that anyone here is arguing that God changes. What you are missing is that God’s plan included replacing the old covenant with a new one. This is God’s plan and He is certainly powerful enough to do as He wills.

The old covenant with the law was designed by God to point us to a savior, to a messiah. It was always God’s plan to send His beloved Son to die for our sins. ALWAYS. He didn’t change by ushering in faith and completing the terms of the old covenant by the ultimate and final sacrifice of blood.

Freth said:
Psalms 89:34 My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips.

He didn’t break Hs covenant. He issued a new covenant.

Freth said:
Malachi 3:6 For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

He did not change. He issued a new covenant.

Freth said:
Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

He did not change. He issued a new covenant.

Freth said:
James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

The new covenant is the perfect gift.

Freth said:
God's counsel is immutable (it doesn't change). It is impossible for God to lie.

Hebrews 6:16-20 For men indeed swear by the greater, and an oath for confirmation is for them an end of all dispute. Thus God, determining to show more abundantly to the heirs of promise the immutability of His counsel, confirmed it by an oath, that by two immutable things [His promise and His oath], in which it is impossible for God to lie, we might have strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold of the hope set before us. This hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and steadfast, and which enters the Presence behind the veil, where the forerunner has entered for us, even Jesus, having become High Priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek.

Conclusion: If God does not change, God's counsel is immutable, and it is impossible for God to lie, all bases are covered concerning the immutable law of God, the Ten Commandments.

Again, and again, God did not change but merely followed His plan, completed the old covenant, and replaced it but with a new one. This new covenant was prophesied is the Old Testament. You guys are living in the already completed old covenant and are missing the wonderful new covenant and the council of the Spirit.

BelieveItOarKnot · 2025-11-15T08:13:55-0600

fhansen said:
This world is a kind of halfway house where good and evil are experienced

Which of course renders any notions of ignoring or denying the evil facts useless lies by the bearer

Good choices never eliminated evil thoughts to "choose from"

Find honest answers from there

lucypevensie · 2025-11-15T08:12:20-0600

What is the etymology of Memra:?

rambot · 2025-11-15T08:09:41-0600

Servus said:
For me it's not about making Trump look better, it's about refuting malarkey that the left makes up. I'll gladly continue doing so long after Trump is enjoying his retirement.

The problem, and I'm not surprised I'm explaining this, is that your malarkey-o-meter is set to "what does trump wang me to say""

Studyman · 2025-11-15T08:09:10-0600

linux.poet said:
The pro-Sabbath arguments are not quite so easily killed off with contempt. While I’m not about to throw out the wealth of Protestant Scholarship from the Dallas Theological Seminary that states that:

I'm curious, as a person who avoids this world's Gamaliel's and religious schools, choosing instead to study the Oracles of God HE delivered into my own home, where does the tradition come from of creating religious schools to promote one religious philosophy over another? I mean, the JW have their Seminaries, SDA has theirs, Mormon's have theirs, Islam has theirs. Where is this tradition promoted by the Lord's Christ of His Father in the Holy Scriptures?

If I may humbly share with you my understanding of this tradition as practiced by the Pharisees, Gamaliel was the popular theologian in Paul's Time. He promoted the teaching of the Pharisees which consisted of centuries of theologians study and research into the Septuagint translation that Jesus often quoted from.

And yet these schools produced preachers of a religious sect that " Full well rejected the commandment of God, that they may keep their own tradition." That produced "hypocrites", and a people who draweth nigh unto God with their mouth, and honoureth God with their lips; but their heart is far from God. A people worshipped God in Vain, "teaching for doctrines the commandments of men" Not God!

These great religious men who ruled Solomon's Temple in the city of David for years, persecuted God's Church, killed the Prophets and murdered their own Messiah based on the teaching of the religious schools of their time.

While Zacharias, John the Baptist, Simeon and Anna, who clearly were not indoctrinated by these religious teachings, not only knew who Jesus was before HE was even born, but knew His Purpose and waited for Him for and relied on Him for the remission of their sins.

Doesn't Jesus, and the Prophets God sent before Him, warn about men who "Profess to know God"?

Jer. 23: 16 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision "of their own heart", and not out of the mouth of the LORD. 17 They say still unto them that despise me, The LORD hath said, Ye shall have peace; and they say unto every one that walketh after the imagination of his own heart, No evil shall come upon you.

21 I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.

Anyway, I mean no malice here, it just seems important to find the source of the traditions promoted by this world's religions that exist in the world God placed us in. I'm interested in your thoughts about this specific tradition.

David Lamb · 2025-11-15T08:05:32-0600

Apple Sky said:
Never, with or without evidence, there are no such thing as orbiting satellites.

So come on, tell us, as you have been asked to many times, where the signals come from that are picked up by fixed domestic satellite dishes to produce constantly good-quality pictures on television sets. You have suggested things which move, like balloons and aeroplanes, things which don't give constant reception, like the ionosphere, but nothing that would feed constant signals to a fixed dish. You must have a viable alternative to be able to say that the satellites don't exist.

DaisyDay · 2025-11-15T08:04:11-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Prison staff fired after leaks about Ghislaine Maxwell's special treatment: lawyer
Leah Saffian, an attorney for convicted sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell, said that staff at Federal Prison Camp Bryan were fired after details about special treatment for her client were leaked to Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MA).

Would that be covered by whistleblower protections? This whole thing reeks of corruption.

Aryeh Jay · 2025-11-15T07:58:17-0600

If Argentina fails then it opens up another failed commie socialist country close to our southern border. Possibly headed by an atheist Islamic fascist terrorist.

stevevw · 2025-11-15T07:45:51-0600

BCP1928 said:
Nobody thinks Petrie was a "whacko." He just doesn't support your argument.

I am pretty sure on this very thread Petrie was regarded as an old man know did not know what he was talking about and just now dismissed as irrelevant because his opinion is outdated.

But good observation. Why do you feel the need to step in and help lol. I think I gathered that he doesn't support my arguement. I don't think he knows what that is. I am not sure you know.

BCP1928 said:
So it's notable that his opinions do not support your argument.

Are you talking about Petrie or Hans lol.

BCP1928 said:
For my part, I don't know how those cuts were made and have never offered any "claims,: only conjecture. You're the one making claims.

I never asked how they were made. But what they look like. What the marks look like if we were applying a tool to explain the mark. Which tool or method does the marks look like they were made by.

Its not hard. Just say whatever comes to mind lol. So for example for me I would say the long cut along the rock face looks like some sort of planer shaved off a thin layer. Thats saying what the image looks like.

Perhaps by saying it you may get your first clue to how they were made. Or at least admit the obvious so as to address it and find out if its the case. But if we cannot admit what they even look like then how can we address all the possibilities.

BCP1928 said:
No competent egyptologist or journeyman machinist would agree with you that the only possible way those signatures could have been produced is by lost ancient indigenous knowledge obtained by communing with nature.

I don't know if I would sum up that this is my arguement. I don't think you know my arguement. You just made a strawman out of it. Where did I say that that the knowledge from nature was the only possible way.

I proposed this as spectulation remember. Now your conflationg that as my arguement as a fact that cannot possibly be refuted. Please don't do my thinking.

You appeal to authority rather than address the observations in front of you. I am not arguing anything at the moment. JUst a simple first step of what you think the signatures look like. What you think would most likely make them based on the marks in the stone.

Please don't say you don't know as skeptics are always claim that the signatures look like the traditional methods. I think we can at least have a good guess. This can help as a first step to working out what is going on. If we cannot acknwoledge what is in front of our eyes and describe what we see how can we even do science.

The Liturgist · 2025-11-15T07:38:52-0600

essentialsaltes said:
AI has much to teach us, too.

What did that teddy bear say? Study warns parents about AI toys
When a researcher asked the teddy bear about “kink,” Kumma went into detail on the topic before asking the researcher for their sexual preferences, according to the study.

“FoloToy’s Kumma told us where to find a variety of potentially dangerous objects, including knives, pills, matches and plastic bags. This was in its default setting, using Open AI’s GPT-4o chatbot. FoloToy’s Kumma … demonstrated poor safeguards over longer interactions, even getting very sexually explicit,” the study states.

Such as the importance of (a) engineering, (b) testing, (c) not using a product not optimized for the problem domain, (d) being aware of the options the vendor has, such as a mode safe for teens, (e) complying with the vendor terms of service - minors 12 and under are not supposed to have unsupervised access or their own accounts for openAI, and (f) hiring managers who have more than three brain cells not temporarily or permanently addled by the abuse of whatever Schedule I controlled substances are trendy in the “bio-hacking” and “self-administered micro-dosing” communities (if Trump becomes genuinely tired of criticism from tech bros, he need do nothing more than clamp down on DEA enforcement in the Bay Area), and (g) hiring workers whose command of the English language is not solely derivative of an ill fated attempt to learn Java Enterprise Edition at a technical college in 2008.

Also 4o isn’t the only chatGPT or AI version willing to divulge rather too much information, indeed 4o is better than most at having a sense of discretion. I collect weird, explicit, disturbing and frightening things GPT 5 and now its equally problematic upgrade 5.1 say.

HIM · 2025-11-15T07:37:49-0600

SabbathBlessings said:
Happy Sabbath all and God bless!

Blessings to you also!

Studyman · 2025-11-15T07:24:06-0600

pasifika said:
The Pharisees we're promoting the old covenant Law.

That is a popular teaching promoted by this world's religious system. But in my studies, the Jesus "of the Bible" said more to define the religion of the Pharisees that anyone in the New Testament. Can you show me even one verse where Jesus taught men that the Pharisees were promoting God's Laws given to Moses? I mean, they were promoting "some" of God's Laws. Even satan promotes "some" of God's Laws.

Matt. 23: 23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Malachi, all teach that the father's of the Pharisees rejected God's Laws, not that they promoted them. Who then, if not Jesus, or Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, or Malachi, is teaching you that the Pharisees were "promoting" God's Laws?

Benaiah468 · 2025-11-15T07:23:35-0600

Yusuphhai said:
Judaism believes that "Messianic Judaism" (MJ) is the ultimate form of broad Christianity and the heresy of Judaism, MJ is more likely to have a confusing effect. What the acceptable Christian model for Judaism is Noahide (son of Noah) Christianity.
MJ is considered the most powerful means of spreading Christianity to Jews. So Noahide Christianity is the response of Judaism to Christian evangelism. MJ can also be seen by Judaism as a pattern of Noahide Christianity . Judaism can communicate with it, but the most dangerous friend.

Yes, ‘Noachide Christianity’ is an offer to non-Jews to have a place before G-d without converting to Judaism.

Although both groups have fundamentally different belief systems. Orthodox Judaism rejects the belief in Jesus as the Messiah, while Messianic Judaism believes in him as the Messiah and at the same time adheres to Jewish laws. The Orthodox Jewish view is that Jesus did not fulfil the Messianic prophecies.

Noachidism focuses on adherence to the seven Noahide laws, which are intended to apply to all people. Those who adhere to these laws can be considered ‘righteous’ and have a share in the world to come, which is why Judaism does not consider it necessary to proselytise other believers. They do not have to become Jews to be righteous before G-d.

The Jewish concept of the Noahides sees this as a G-d-pleasing path, but Christianity sees the relationship with Jesus as decisive.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-15T07:22:51-0600

Strong in Him said:
You don't care what people think,

Do people care what I think ? Do people debate over the probabilities ? No, people just laugh & scorn & are always in demand of the evidence.

This is the same ol story what ever I post.

reddogs · 2025-11-15T07:15:52-0600

The site where the Temple stood, is now dominated by two structures which keep Jews from any chance to build or restore, which are the al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock, near the center of the temple mount, which is seem as one of the holiest Islamic structure in the world, and has been the scene of much resistance to Jews coming near.

The temple mount is the base and is the place where the past Jewish temples stood, which makes it among the holiest sites in Judaism to say nothing of how Christians look at it. The First Temple was built by Solomon, the son of David, in 957 BC, and was destroyed by the Babylonian Empire, in 587 BCE. The Second Temple was constructed under of Zerubbabel in 516 BCE, was renovated by King Herod, and this is the temple that was standing when Christ came. The second temple lasted until AD 70, when it was razed to the ground by Roman soldiers under Titus.

Now today, we have many evangelicals and many orthodox Jews want to reestablish the temple and even the sacrificial system. Many Christians hold that the Jewish temple will be rebuilt before Christ comes, and have set up Christian ministries to assist in the building of the temple to hasten the return of Jesus. For many of them, they think such an event will signal the start of the final events of earth’s history, but they are confused on the subject of the temple. They claim certain text as proof such as 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4..
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

They misinterpret who the man of sin is, and think it is a future antichrist, when the apostate church has already revealed itself and persecuted the faithful and burned them at the stake and tried to wipe them out, which history shows us clearly is here in the Papacy.

Now, the Jews have claimed Donald Trump as a new 'King Cyrus' by some evangelical Christians and Israeli political figures for his Gaza Peace initiative and strong support for Israel, as part of a divine plan. And we have Orthodox Jewish "tradition" that claims it is here, in the city of Jerusalem that the third and final Temple will be built when they say the 'messiah comes'. But if Christ came and they did not recognized him, then what 'messiah' are they waiting for. And we have Gods Word which tells us what Temple or Tabernacle its talking about..

Hebrews 6:20
19 Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil;
20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

Hebrews 9:11
But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
Hebrews 10:19-23
19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
20 ;By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
21 And having an high priest over the house of God;
22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
23 ;Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)

Christ is the fulfillment of God’s promise to live among His people by a "greater and more perfect Tabernacle not made with hands'.

o_mlly · 2025-11-15T07:08:54-0600

The Barbarian said:
I've never observed nuclear fusion in the lab, either. But like macroevolution, scientists have observed it.

Nothing new here. Keep looking and, as I'm sure you will, keep your faith in evol theory.

The Barbarian said:
"Macroevolution" means the evolution of new species. If that seems meaningless to you, we've located the problem.

Nothing new here either and, yes, we've located the problem. Belief in things unseen seems to be the problem.

stevevw · 2025-11-15T07:03:09-0600

iarwain said:
Yes, and the political becoming the personal (and spiritual) explains why people now have such heightened feelings over politics that they hate those that disagree with them. The addition of Islam is interesting because Islam is tolerated whereas Christianity is not. Why would an atheist grounded ideology give such a approval to Islam? Apparently, because they both have a common enemy in Christ, and Christians.

Because of the common enermy, The Jews and Christians. But ultimately its Christ.

Even to the point where despite Islamist being a worse offender against rights such as LGBTIQ+. They are still willing to unite against Jews and Christians. Well the western ideologues are willing. But the Islamist will deny their freedoms more than the Jews. So they are willing to suffer so long as the Jews and Christians are destroyed.

Which is interesting in itself because sociologically there is no reason for this. Christians and Jews have not done anything different or worse than other religions or cultures in the world. You could say they are more representative of freedoms and rights.

Which points to this not being anything about politics, cultural differences, religious differences or rights. But something deeper that is spiritual in nature. Which is a belief.

Only a belief can cause people to become irrational and extreme in feelings to the point that they hate and want to kill. Its like they are possessed and we can see the evil in how some celebrate with glee in their eyes over the destruction of other humans. Its actually scary like some demons are being released.

BCP1928 · 2025-11-15T07:02:45-0600

mindlight said:
It is a crisis of credibility for the West that Cultural Christians are being so heavily pruned in recent years. It does not bode well for Western culture and explains a lot of the relative loss of power, wealth and influence also in recent years. The true church is still there. Young people are being challenged by the moral relativism, egoism and materialistic reductionism of liberal atheism but my hope is that they will see through this hopeless culture of despair in time. Meanwhile around the world people continue to be overwhelmingly religious and the global church keeps growing as it has done for 2000 years already.

Yes, it makes one wonder why so many Christians in the US are devoting their energy to supporting Christian Nationalism rather than evangelizing.

Strong in Him · 2025-11-15T06:59:32-0600

Apple Sky said:
Never, with or without evidence, there are no such thing as orbiting satellites.

So even if you have evidence of orbiting satellites, you will not believe there are orbiting satellites?

I think that says it all.
There's no point in answering all your demands of "prove it" - you won't believe it.
There's no point in you starting threads with the question, "thoughts?" or "what do you guys think?" You don't care what people think, nor what the evidence says. You only believe what you want, and have decided, to believe.

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