ARE ALL THE 10 COMMANDMENTS IN THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT?
- By Hentenza
- Sabbath and The Law
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Glad we agree.
First problem.
“For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about; but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.” Now to the one who works, the wages are not credited as a favor, but as what is due. But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness,”
Romans 4:2-5 NASB2020
Romans 4:2-5 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about; but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? “ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS CREDITED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS.” Now to | New American Standard Bible - NASB
For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about; but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? “ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS CREDITED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS.” Now to
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No works are necessary for faith. Abraham was not justified by works. In fact, works in general are not necessary but the faith is what is credited as righteousness.
The old covenant of laws were given to Moses to give to Israel. I have heard them call the Jewish covenant or the laws of Moses. No big mystery here.
I would not use the title of gentile since the Israelites were the descendants of Jacob which was a descendant of Isaac which was a descendant of Abraham. The knew of God so their religious beliefs were not pagan like the Egyptians.
Agree except for the works part. As the scripture states salvation is by faith not works. The law was impossible to follow perfectly which led to Christ.
Learning doctrine, even that preached by the different denominations, does require discernment but the scriptures exhorts the Christian to belong to the body of Christ.
I’m not sure if I am understanding you correctly here. While I agree with you that by the time Jesus came to earth the Jewish version of the old covenant had become quite corrupted. As Jesus stated He did not come for the sake of their traditions. However, even in its purest form, Jesus fulfilled the law and was the only man that was able to keep it perfectly. This covenant remain only for the Jews that did not or have no faith in the redemptive sacrifice of Christ. The promises that God made to Israel remain in effect until God fulfills them at the end of the time of the gentiles and not before.
Paul doesn’t agree with you. Here is what Paul says that the gospel is:
“Now I make known to you, brothers and sisters, the gospel which I preached to you, which you also received, in which you also stand, by which you also are saved, if you hold firmly to the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain. For I handed down to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that He appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. After that He appeared to more than five hundred brothers and sisters at one time, most of whom remain until now, but some have fallen asleep; then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles; and last of all, as to one untimely born, He appeared to me also.”
1 Corinthians 15:1-8 NASB2020
1 Corinthians 15:1-8 Now I make known to you, brothers and sisters, the gospel which I preached to you, which you also received, in which you also stand, by which you also are saved, if you hold firmly to the word which I | New American Standard Bibl
Now I make known to you, brothers and sisters, the gospel which I preached to you, which you also received, in which you also stand, by which you also are saved, if you hold firmly to the word which I
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Secondly, Paul, of course, worships the same God of Israel but just believing in the law does not mean that he followed them. Here are Paul’s words on the matter.
“Therefore there is now no condemnation at all for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.”
Romans 8:1-4 NASB2020
Romans 8:1-4 Therefore there is now no condemnation at all for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law c | New American Standard Bible - NASB
Therefore there is now no condemnation at all for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law c
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The Christian walks in the Spirit and are not bound by the law. So it would be quite inconsistent that in one place Paul stated that he follows the law and then in another teach that the law is weak and not necessary for salvation.
This is correct.
Now we are getting personal and not remaining civil.
It is in fact quite deceitful to assign context without understanding what is being taught.
Isaiah 48 brings the prophesy of the redeemer not the gospel of good news. In fact, Jesus is telling them that He will come because Israel has been a rebel from birth. They have never been able to keep God’s commandments perfectly. They have profaned His name. The gospel was not given to them but will be given by the redeemer in the future.
““You have not heard, you have not known. Even from long ago your ear has not been open, Because I knew that you would deal very treacherously; And you have been called a rebel from birth. “For the sake of My name I delay My wrath, And for My praise I restrain it for you, In order not to cut you off. “Behold, I have refined you, but not as silver; I have tested you in the furnace of affliction. “For My own sake, for My own sake, I will act; For how can My name be profaned? And I will not give My glory to another.”
Isaiah 48:8-11 NASB2020
Isaiah 48:8-11 “You have not heard, you have not known. Even from long ago your ear has not been open, Because I knew that you would deal very treacherously; And you have been called a rebel from birth. “For the sak | New American Standard Bible - NA
“You have not heard, you have not known. Even from long ago your ear has not been open, Because I knew that you would deal very treacherously; And you have been called a rebel from birth. “For the sak
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They were false prophets (Matt 7:15). They did not promote the gospel but were “sheep in wolf clothing”. There are many people now that claim faith in Christ and even do works in His name that have evil in their hearts. This is nothing new. In fact read the parable of the soils which teaches the different levels of faith.
I will exhort you that learn the gospel if good news and be saved by the grace of God through faith not by works (Eph 2:8-10). Now read Paul’s words that follows:
“Therefore remember that previously you, the Gentiles in the flesh, who are called “Uncircumcision” by the so-called “Circumcision” which is performed in the flesh by human hands— remember that you were at that time separate from Christ, excluded from the people of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of the promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who previously were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ. For He Himself is our peace, who made both groups into one and broke down the barrier of the dividing wall, by abolishing in His flesh the hostility, which is the Law composed of commandments expressed in ordinances, so that in Himself He might make the two one new person, in this way establishing peace; and that He might reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, by it having put to death the hostility.”
Ephesians 2:11-16 NASB2020
Ephesians 2:11-16 Therefore remember that previously you, the Gentiles in the flesh, who are called “Uncircumcision” by the so-called “Circumcision” which is performed in the flesh by human hands— remember that you wer | New American Standard Bible -
Therefore remember that previously you, the Gentiles in the flesh, who are called “Uncircumcision” by the so-called “Circumcision” which is performed in the flesh by human hands— remember that you wer
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Christians are not part of the old covenant. Christians are not Israel. Christian are not under the law. No one has even been justified by the law and no one will ever be justified by the law.
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