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Oompa Loompa · 2025-11-25T16:18:56-0600

Yarddog said:
That means that Capitalism can't work either.

It can and does with appropriate legislation to protect workers. I still think it is amazing how liberals are now out in the open about how they really feel about socialism.

Bro.T · 2025-11-25T16:16:27-0600

Hentenza said:
Quite preachy, don’t you think? It does not add to your credibility. So you reject the Spirit In favor of the law? Do you not see your folly?

“And when you were dead in your wrongdoings and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our wrongdoings, having canceled the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2‬:‭13‬-‭14‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Colossians 2:13-14 And when you were dead in your wrongdoings and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our wrongdoings, having canceled the certificate of debt co | New American Standard Bible

And when you were dead in your wrongdoings and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our wrongdoings, having canceled the certificate of debt co

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Christ nailed the law to the cross. It’s really that simple. Tell you what, you actually address my post and I’ll give you the gift to show you why and for what purpose the law was established as Paul explains in Romans 3:31.

I agree, Christ nailed the law on the cross, but you my friend don't seem to know which law it was. Paul preach about more then just one law, more then just one death.

Paul didn’t come preaching and teaching his own thing, but he abided in the doctrine of Christ. (Rom. 3:20) Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sights for by the law is the knowledge of sin. The deeds of the law is referring to the animal sacrificial laws, all those sacrifices can never remove sins, so they could never be justified. This is true because the blood of Jesus can only justify us. The animal sacrificial laws was added because people continue to sin, and the wages of sin bring for death. So instead of God killing people every time they sin, the Lord gave Moses a law to use, animals. So by the other law (Ten Commandments, Statutes and Judgement) is the knowledge of sin. Because, Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Now we have just read the biblical definition of sin, the transgression (breaking) of the law (commandments.) It doesn’t matter what you or I think sin is, it’s what God says sin is that counts. (1John 3:4)

Paul says in Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. So when you quoted all the places in the Bible that do away with this animal sacrificial law, not understanding that Paul talks about two sets of law. The Royal law (Ten Commandments) and the animal sacrificial law sometimes in the same verse you bring can bring destruction to yourself not knowing which law is which.

At some point common sense should kick in. If I'm reading about the doing away of a law or not under a law, then somewhere else Paul tell you that the law is Holy just and good, another place break mostly all the Ten commandments down. A light bulb should come on in your head, Paul have to be talking about two sets of laws. In other places Paul explain the animal sacrificial law.

Paul says in (Rom. 4:15) Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. If there is no law there is no sin.

Oompa Loompa · 2025-11-25T16:16:08-0600

rambot said:
I'll be the first to say this is an old poll and I am more than welcome to see new contradictory evidence if it can be presented but....
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/14/politics/independents-pew

I have never really met a self identified "Independent" who has had a truly centrist position (or; who argues "both sides" with equal vigor)

What do you all think of Independents? IF you are one, do you believe that you are an exception to that rule?

I think that at this point, people who call themselves "independent" are either uninformed or think that claiming to be independent gives them more street cred.

Pommer · 2025-11-25T16:15:34-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Trump Canceling GDP Report Comes Under Scrutiny
The U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis said on Monday that it has canceled the release of its advance estimate of third-quarter GDP. [And no future release date has been set.]

The department said the release was being canceled due to disruption caused by the federal government shutdown, but the announcement has sparked criticism and speculation that the report is being held because of disappointing data.

It’s a good thing that the American economy isn’t in thrall to Official Government Reports that shed light on what is going on in the American economy!
0h wait…

DaisyDay · 2025-11-25T16:15:33-0600

rambot said:
And what has been the trend in each of the polls.

Because this thread seems to be about trends generally.

Polls are mostly about trends, changes from one point in time to another, rather than anything approaching absolutes.

Richard T · 2025-11-25T16:13:59-0600

rambot said:
I'll be the first to say this is an old poll and I am more than welcome to see new contradictory evidence if it can be presented but....
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/14/politics/independents-pew

I have never really met a self identified "Independent" who has had a truly centrist position (or; who argues "both sides" with equal vigor)

What do you all think of Independents? IF you are one, do you believe that you are an exception to that rule?

I don't really buy their definition of a true independent. Some are not middling but instead take every issue and examine it through their own lens to support or oppose. Senator Rand is like that and so is Senator Sanders. These are the kind of people the government needs because otherwise it is just a herd all running their direction, well two herds actually. To solve America's problems we need more choices. Both parties seem quite stagnant. Many too are too defensive about their views and preferences. Who really knows the answer to some really hard questions like how much government do we want and how should that be divided up? It is not a right and wrong answer, it is just a personal preference in many cases.

RDKirk · 2025-11-25T16:07:35-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Our War Secretary

View attachment 373648

Someone on Reddit posted this:

I used to do military comms and am now an editor for military publications, and I think the Secretary was wrong to say "reversed," but there is a swap that needs to be done on Kelly's uniform. The second row of medals in the photo, starting with the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal, should be swapped with the third row, starting with the Navy Achievement Medal. I assume this is what Hegseth was referring to with "reversed."

If we're talking about medal rows that include an Expeditionary Medal and a Navy Achievement Medal, we're down into the "participation trophy" levels, below the "I actually did important hero stuff" level. And he does have some genuine "hero stuff" medals at the top.

Nobody seriously cares about that bottom stuff that practically everyone has; most people stop at the astronaut wings at the top.

But seriously, this is stuff that some grumpy old retired guy like me might bring up while eating a slider at the VFW, before someone brings up the football playoffs as a much more interesting topic.

SarahsKnight · 2025-11-25T16:06:14-0600

Dan1988 said:
Now for a dose of the bitter medicine, also known as the awful truth.

Are you hearing yourself?

This is what the Gospel is to you (you know, the GOOD News)? Bitter medicine and an awful truth?

Landon Caeli · 2025-11-25T16:06:05-0600

Yarddog said:
That means that Capitalism can't work either.

AI bots cannot be good or evil? Because they don't have a conscience?

DaisyDay · 2025-11-25T16:04:18-0600

Vambram said:
Bondi targets James Comey, Letitia James in legal battle: 'Hold... accountable for unlawful conduct'

Attorney General Pam Bondi defends prosecutor Lindsey Halligan and promises legal action after court dismisses cases against James Comey and Letitia James.

www.foxnews.com

Such a shame that a once well respected office has come down to this. Bondi should seek her pardon before Trump gets 25thed.

Yarddog · 2025-11-25T16:01:49-0600

Oompa Loompa said:
You are correct. People are evil. Which is why socialism cannot work.

That means that Capitalism can't work either.

Landon Caeli · 2025-11-25T15:57:05-0600

rambot said:
And why capitalism doesn't work either then?

Go with Muskism. Muskism is the idea of having everything automated 100% into a cashless society, where bots make so much of everything, nothing ever runs low, and everyone can have infinite amounts of anything they want for the rest of their life.

...I choose a Muskist economy!

RileyG · 2025-11-25T15:53:03-0600

Hentenza said:
View attachment 373640 This was the atheist symbol.

View attachment 373641this was the Catholic symbol.

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And this was me in 2011. lol .

Nice! The old format brings back a lot of memories!

sjastro · 2025-11-25T15:50:40-0600

The Tatarians were only good for making tartaric acid.

Tartaric acid - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2025-11-25T15:49:53-0600

prodromos said:
They were just copying Hagia Sophia after they turned it into a mosque.

Oh, Lord, but she posted the pictures and I actually forgot that one of the main principle things of the Tartarian load of bull is that any grand building, either in the Old World or New World, had no way of being built by anyone else except this long lost, forgotten civilization. Surely they couldn't have been built by the people who lived there. Surely not!

And she's from Wales like me! A nation within a nation with a strong history of castle building along with cathedrals! Oh, it's horrible! Horrid!

Landon Caeli · 2025-11-25T15:49:49-0600

BCP1928 said:
That's just arguing over what our national history and national identity actually are. Maybe instead of tearing down statues of old Marse Bob we should tear down Hillsdale College.

You want to tear down the Christian college that Pat Sajak is the trustee of? Why on earth would you say that?

Vambram · 2025-11-25T15:49:42-0600

Bondi targets James Comey, Letitia James in legal battle: 'Hold... accountable for unlawful conduct'

Attorney General Pam Bondi defends prosecutor Lindsey Halligan and promises legal action after court dismisses cases against James Comey and Letitia James.

www.foxnews.com

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2025-11-25T15:47:51-0600

Apple Sky said:
Amazing

What's amazing is your lack of knowledge and your lack of desire to actually learn...

prodromos · 2025-11-25T15:46:55-0600

Apple Sky said:
Amazing

All domed building like some of these.

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Not a single one of these domed structures can be found in 'Tartaria'. So once again there is not a single shred of evidence of any such structures claimed by your conspiracy theorists.
Nor do any of the domed structures presented harvest any energy from the Ionosphere. They might have a lightning rod, but then that is simply connected to a cable running to ground. No devices are connected to the cable. It is purely to prevent lightning hitting anywhere else on the roof which could cause significant damage.

prodromos · 2025-11-25T15:44:11-0600

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
A lot of Islamic structures have domes. She might mean them. Which comes across as just a bit racist.

They were just copying Hagia Sophia after they turned it into a mosque.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-25T15:43:08-0600

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
Yes, people easily built things in the past with the tools they had available. Just because you personally lack the knowledge on how to do it doesn't mean others were in the same boat as you.

Amazing

prodromos said:
What buildings are you talking about?

All domed building like some of these.

essentialsaltes · 2025-11-25T15:41:58-0600

Our War Secretary

Dan Perez · 2025-11-25T15:39:50-0600

SabbathBlessings said:
Hi Linux,

I answered this question on another thread and since it was long I'll post most of it here.

Many think the 4th commandment is just how to keep the Sabbath, but it actually tells us how to keep all days. Also, many think its just about rest, but its actually telling us to rest from our work and labors so we can keep the Sabbath day holy. In the Sabbath commandment there is a provision for it to be kept for everyone.

Exo 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Isa 58:13 “If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath,
From doing your pleasure on My holy day,
And call the Sabbath a delight,
The holy day of the Lord honorable,
And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways,
Nor finding your own pleasure,
Nor speaking your own words,
14 Then you shall delight yourself in the Lord;
And I will cause you to ride on the high hills of the earth,
And feed you with the heritage of Jacob your father.
The mouth of the Lord has spoken.”

The Sabbath is about putting away all secular things, resting from works and labors and focusing on God for one full day, on the Sabbath- God's holy day, The only one God claimed in the entire Bible. The Sabbath is a delight, not meant to be a burden as many teach. How can spending time with God on the day He set aside from Creation that comes with His power of blessings Isa56:2 and sanctification Eze20:12 and know He is our God Eze20:20 ever be a burden.

God said the Sabbath is for a holy convocation or church

Lev 23:3 ‘Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, a holy convocation. You shall do no work on it; it is the Sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings.

God does not want His people being on an island. The Sabbath is meant for God's people to come together as a church family to worship Him and we see this in the life of Jesus and the apostles and continuing on in the New Heaven and New Earth,

We can learn how to keep the Sabbath through the life of Jesus, the Lord of the Sabbath

Luke4:16 So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read. What He read from is the Book of Isaiah if you keep reading in this passage

Jesus healed on the Sabbath which the Jews in their legalism said it was breaking their sabbath (not God's)

Can you imagine if Jesus could cure someone from suffering why would that not be a blessing to do on the Sabbath or any day. Why Jesus said

Mat 12:12 Of how much more value then is a man than a sheep? Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”
Mark3:4 Then He said to them, “Is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?” But they kept silent.

The apostles kept the Sabbath with these same basic principles

As a holy convocation, reading and preaching the word of God, keeping the Sabbath holy by focusing on God through His word, prayer, and church gathering

Acts 13:14
But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day and sat down.

Acts 13:27
For those who dwell in Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they did not know Him, nor even the voices of the Prophets which are read every Sabbath, have fulfilled them in condemning Him.

Acts 13:42
So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.

Acts 13:44
On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.

Acts 15:21
For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath.”

Acts 16:13
And on the Sabbath day we went out of the city to the riverside, where prayer was customarily made; and we sat down and spoke to the women who met there.

Acts 17:2
Then Paul, as his custom was, went in to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures,

Acts 18:4
And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks.

In summary, I like to model how we are told in Scriptures and how Jesus and the apostles kept the Sabbath, I like to prepare for the Sabbath as much I can on Friday which is the preparation day, so house cleaning, grocery shopping, prep meals when I can etc.

On the Sabbath I like to start out with quiet devotion of prayer and reading the Bible. Then I go to church with my church family. Sometimes we have potluck which is nice. Our church organizes a lot of outreaches either help bring food to the needy or clothes or will provide Bible studies etc. After church I go back home and will usually spend the rest of the day reading the Bible, prayer or reasoning with others on the Scriptures or visiting family. I will also watch sermons. I also like to get out it nature and appreciate everything God made for us in nature. I was not a Sabbath-keeper for most of my life and went back about 5 years ago and it changed my life. There is nothing in this world that can take the place of resting with God Heb4:4 Heb4:10 on His holy Sabbath day. Nothing can replace God's Sabbath, no shopping trip, house project etc. will ever be more valuable than this sacred time with God.

His holy Sabbath convocation continues on in the New Heaven and New Earth but instead of worshipping Him in spirit, it will be before Him!

Isa66:22 “For as the new heavens and the new earth
Which I will make shall remain before Me,” says the Lord,
“So shall your descendants and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass
That from one New Moon to another,
And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.

And in. ISA 66:22 WHO is God speaking TOO.

# 1 TO Israel ?? And how. are you saved by the LAW , will you PROVIDE A VERSE. ?

# 2 To the BODY. of CHRIST. ??

dan p

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2025-11-25T15:39:14-0600

prodromos said:
What buildings are you talking about?

A lot of Islamic structures have domes. She might mean them. Which comes across as just a bit racist.

Richard T · 2025-11-25T15:39:09-0600

I lost someone young too though with far different complications than what you have. I can say too that while it has lasting affects, the problem with my relationships has not been any sort of promise, but rather the idea of other women not measuring up.
While your promise is noble, I think you should void it. Why? because there is no marriage in heaven. I imagine the woman who died would want you to have a chance. I would confess that promise as a sin, and try to move on giving yourself at least the option for marriage. It seems likely you are hardwired for marriage, so trying to short circuit that now is going to result in some pain for you. In your confession, I would tell God too that you are sorry you made that promise too if you did not consult with Him. Chalk it up to trying to do the right thing, that ended up in tragedy, but please don't carry that tragedy much further. Honor her life by remembering her and learning to grow in Christ with all that God can bless you with including a wife and family.
As to comparisons of her to other women, you will be able to overcome that. You have to see your role and any future woman you date from God's perspective, not yours. I will say too that God is very compassionate when you lose someone close like that. He will certainly try to bless you out of that loss when the time is right. Am alternative that helped me too was to consider foreign women.
I am certain the whole ordeal is like a test to you, with all kinds of emotions and thoughts. Rather than having even a hint of blaming God, which you may or may not be doing, you have to dig deep and let the relationship serve to inspire you to do even greater things for God. That death in my life inspired me to become a Christian, to this day, decades later, it continues to help me care more about others. I pray her death will be a positive catalyst for you too in every way, including marriage if you find the right person. God bless.

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