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How is "glory" different from "ego"?

I can't help but feel immensely disappointed.
Immensely disappointed by.....

A Creator possessing the knowledge of good and evil; knowing the fall was inevitable, but decided to create a cosmos anyways. So by His power, He interjects His will to create life upon a matrix that was destine for the destruction corruption would bring. He knew the only thing that would save this cosmos was if He stepped into it and took upon Himself the judgement deserved; of that which could not stand in the presence of His glory; because the presence of the entity that He is would destroy it. God couldn't stop that from happening because that's just the nature of who He is. A consuming fire. You throw paper in there; it burns up. You throw gold in, it refines and ultimately becomes more valuable.

So He takes on the sin of a bunch of people who hated Him to begin with! Confronts His own wrath on their behalf. Sends His Spirit to resurrect their dead.... arses... from the pit of their own hatred and debase hedonistic destruction caused by the worship of themselves!

And you think God is the one with the ego problem?
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Mass Shooting at Annunciation Catholic Church/School in Minneapolis

California is a good example of how well stronger gun laws work.

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In the 1990s, California had the third highest gun homicide rate – over 50% above the national average – and its gun death rate was substantially higher than the rest of the country. As the state added more gun safety protections, more lives were saved and the trendlines reversed. From 1993 to 2017, California’s firearm mortality rate declined by 55 percent—almost four times the decrease in the rest of the nation. Many of California’s most important firearm laws went into effect in the early 1990s. As California continued to enact strong firearm laws, its firearm death rate continued to decline.”

It's not just California:

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And yet with all thise gun laws people are still dying from them. Whats rhe acceptable rate of death from guns? Is it California's rate? What's the unacceptable rate? Is it the national.average? Are we talking strictly gun deaths or are we talking gun homicides?

If you are serious about ending this then Californias actions are not good enough. You have to ban guns. Thats the only way. Otherwise you have to accept that the killing will go on and rhat you have an acceptable rate in order to hold onto the right to keep and bear arms.
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Prior Auth Comes to Medicare


Under the model, known as the Wasteful and Inappropriate Service Reduction (WISeR) Model, "CMS will partner with companies specializing in enhanced technologies to test ways to provide an improved and expedited prior authorization process" under traditional Medicare, the agency said Friday in a press releaseopens in a new tab or window, adding that the model will help "patients and providers avoid unnecessary or inappropriate care and [will safeguard] federal taxpayer dollars."​
The WISeR Model will test new technologies including artificial intelligence to see whether they can expedite the prior authorization processes for certain items and services "that have been identified as particularly vulnerable to fraud, waste, and abuse, or inappropriate use," the press release noted. "These items and services include, but are not limited to, skin and tissue substitutesopens in a new tab or window, electrical nerve stimulator implants, and knee arthroscopy for knee osteoarthritis."​
Yep they will save in fraud I think while at the same time deny needed treatments. AI is now the gatekeeper to USA elder care.
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How is "glory" different from "ego"?

Well as someone who loathes the act of singing, if it doesn't do anything for Him, it also doesn't do anything for me. That just makes it feel even more vain.
I can empathize with you but consider that he does inhabit the praises of his people. Ps 22:3. There also is a sacrifice of praise that can help us change and stay focused.
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Illinois Gov. Pritzker Says Chicago Is Safe As 35 Shot, 5 Dead Labor Day Weekend

They asked Speaker Johnson about if troops are going to New Orleans. Seems he sort of was embarrassed to talk about it. But let's not deny this area and other's of greater need than Chicago.
Why New Orleans Has the Highest Murder Rate in America
Memphis, St. Louis, and Baltimore and others have higher crime rates than Chicago. Does Trump need a statistician or a political officer to tell him what cities to deploy? While a short-term solution will save lives, if you want to progress further how about the Federal government offering to help fund additional police in the hotspots like they have done in the past?
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Feeling like I don't belong

I think others are less teachable than they should be. If Jesus wants to form us into the person we ought to be, shouldn't we be teachable?

I think this is my problem too. I'll notice an error in someone's Christian beliefs, but they don't agree with me. To give a real example - once in Bible study class we were going over Exodus. The teacher believed that God forced Pharaoh to sin and led him to his death. I don't believe that, because God doesn't make anyone sin (but may allow them to sin). But she insisted on her position. And she's a Bible study teacher at church.

I think there's issues in non-Christian areas as well. As you mentioned - politics.
Yes, it is difficult. It'd been 7 or 8 years now since I'd gone to any particular church with any consistency. The one church, myself and my son had been at for about a decade; we got burned really bad. He stopped going now at all too. He has a friend who's in college and he'll go with the friend to church; but isn't particularly interested in going with me.... "trying to find the right place".

There's only one church experience I'd ever had where I felt like the people there were happy to see me when I walked in the door. This was a house church, lead by a southern fellow and his wife who'd just moved into the area and were "trying out" churches in the area and just happened to run into me at one of the ones they were trying. And since I had an intense interest in studying the atonement; they asked me if I was interested in joining their group. I did and it worked out well for me.

I'd just gotten out of the military and I was extremely depressed. The fellow that ran the group worked for the Department of Defense and so he was very familiar with veterans. I had PTSD from Desert Storm. (1991 Gulf War). But also had PTSD from my childhood. His wife was very kind in trying to help me through the stuff that happened when I was a kid. She was kind of like a mom / big sister to me.

Unfortunately though, they didn't stay in the area as long as they thought they were going to. It was supposed to be a 5 year contract as his work, but it was probably only about 6 to 8 months before the DOD sent him someplace else. So they moved. Another couple in the group also moved. (They went to help her take care of her parents.) The third couple; the husband decided he wasn't saved and wanted nothing more to do with church; and so it was down to just me and one other couple. We continued to meet; just the three of us for about a month or so when they told me; they'd decided that we all probably should just try to find conventional churches.

And that was that!

Eventually we all lost track of each other and.... so many times I've wished I could track them down. But I lost the contact information and not even sure I remember their names correctly any more? They were pretty common names, so I'm not thinking I'm ever going to find them at this point, on this side of eternity. I don't even know if they are still alive. That was 30 years ago now.

Where'd the time go?

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Trump in talks to deploy private army to Ukraine to protect American interests in the country if peace plan emerges

Wonder how much the market rate is for US citizens to go? I'd say 100k at least. (Make sure there is a death benefit too). Or just offer a path to citizenship to Ukraine if a foreigner serves a year, US green card if you serve three? Outsourcing labor like this can be a good deal. Perhaps no tariffs to the nation that wants to step up in masse.
I think there are certain religious groups too, perhaps even Christians that would step up to fight for occupied lands if they were told they could keep it. Some autonomous states are formed from fighting, might as well make things interesting. Seems a way better option that just ceding land to Russia.
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Democrat Appellate Judge overturns half billion dollar fine

In a liberal State with a liberal judge and a liberal AG who ran on getting Trump...yep nothing to see here! No James declared Trump guilty before there even was a case! That is how witch hunts work!
No, that is how all prosecutions work. Unless you think prosecutors should go after people who they do not think are guilty just to see if they can get them convicted?
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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

lol, the horizontal impressions are not cuts or attemp at cuts. Like I said this fine cut in on a giant relief imbedded in it at Karnak.

This is the relief or rather the face of an obelisk which I pointed out when I first posted this pic with an image. Notice the giant image. The bit you refer to is the outer framing and artwork of the relief.

The thick line you think is a saw cut is actually part of the artwork, a border and the vertical line that runds with the cut is some sort of spear of fancy border as well.


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There is another cut to the side of the same section as though the entire edge was to be removed to shape the obelisk.

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Well looks like your Ai cannot destinguish the difference between a clear cut with art work.
I note your critical thinking skills have let you down again.
We have now fast forward to the 18th dynasty 1000 years after the Great Pyramid into Egypt's Bronze Age where far more bronze tools have survived than copper such as bronze axes.
While bronze is harder than copper, a bronze axe will not cut into granite and bronze saws still required the use of abrasives.
The question still stands how did the Egyptians make such fine cuts?

Even if the horizontal feature is not the result of a copper saw and abrasion cut but an artistic relief it doesn't solve your dilemma but makes it worse.
The image I presented clearly shows the vertical slit passing through the relief in the bottom left hand corner. It means the vertical slit came well after the relief when steel was hard enough to cut into granite without the aid of abrasives to produce fine slits.
Also the slit does not add to the artistic representation but a defacement of the obelisk.
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Here’s how the first proteins might have assembled, sparking life

I'm not sure what your point is. The newly generated species reproduce on their own and can't reproduce with their parent species. If that's not a new species, what do you think is a new species?

If you're actually denying that new species can arise, you're really out on your own island. IIRC even YEC organizations don't deny it (it's how two members of a "cat kind" can produce all the current species of cats after the flood).
My point is I don't see how selected breeding in a lab among similar species proves how humans came from mushrooms.
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Mass Shooting at Annunciation Catholic Church/School in Minneapolis

Here's a directory to the gun laws already in existence in all 50 states. Kind of puts to rest the idea that guns are unregulated: State Laws and Published Ordinances - Firearms (35th Edition) | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Let me know when you finish reading them all.
But you are arguing that they are going after your guns...and yet here is a list of laws that do no such thing. How about the paranoia relaxes when new gun laws DO get introduced.


I am NOT arguing that guns are unregulated.

That is a "strawman" argument.
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Trump Threatens Federal Takeover of Washington After Member of DOGE Is Assaulted

...since the National Guard is reportedly used for picking up trash, spreading mulch and walking around the National Mall and trainstation, I submit it would be more efficient for the Feds to hire people to do those jobs....
They have been given more than one job here. Their presence is helping deter crime and rhey are beautifying the place at the same time. Win/win.

I also think they should hire more people to pick up trash and beautify the place.

The federal government has totally failed the city. Shame on them. Thank you President Trump for providing a way forward. Now its time for Congress to act to continue the way. Give the city the money to hire the cops ans people to do what federal officers and the NG is doing. Keep them there until this is accomplished.

If they dont do it, then Congress is a reckless as we believe they are. This should be a no brainer.
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ICE moves to deport Guatemalan children despite judge’s order

Ok, but I don't trust that it is always both parents at least in all cases. Elian Gonzales, if you are old enough was an example of one parent that fled to the USA from Cuba with his mother. His mother drowned but for a time we placed him with his uncle here in the USA. President Bush though returned him to his father back in Cuba. Elián González - Wikipedia If she had not drowned I do not think he would have been returned.
I guess to really know for these children we would have to look at each case as to how and why they got here and what the living conditions were for them back home. (being poor is not enough of an excuse, but abused likely would be). I suppose ICE has done that, but have they done it well? So, I am till ok for a judge to determine their fate. I can't trust ICE because they have proved to be deceitful. Some lawyers that advocate for illegals have too. So I guess that leaves the courts unless this judge is overridden.
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Mass Shooting at Annunciation Catholic Church/School in Minneapolis

Indeed, the violence in large liberal cities is out of control. Their policies are not working, and more regulations along such disastrous lines seems crazy to those with common sense. What they seek is control of the people, an authoritarian government, whether it be what you drive or the stove you can cook on or the pronouns you use. All of this, including more gun control laws and regulations, is supposedly for your own good. That is the propaganda.
Sorry.

Are guns laws at a civil or state level?


You are complaining about the possibility of a left leaning authoritarian government but seem fine with an actual right thing authoritarian government I suppose.
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