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Yarddog · Sep 11, 2025

Michie said:
Ex-Bush strategist once called the Bible 'a book filled with much fiction'

Cable news network MSNBC has reportedly fired veteran political analyst Matthew Dowd following widespread backlash to his on-air comments linking conservative activist Charlie Kirk's "hate speech" to the "environment" that led to the 31-year-old's fatal shooting in Utah.

The exchange came during MSNBC's live coverage of the tragedy on Wednesday, shortly after Kirk, the co-founder of Turning Point USA, was shot in the neck from long range while addressing a crowd of about 3,000 at a Utah Valley University event. Kirk was pronounced dead a short time later.

As details emerged of the attack, which Utah Gov. Spencer Cox described as a "political assassination," anchor Katy Tur turned to Dowd with a question about "the environment in which a shooting like this happens."

Dowd's response zeroed in on Kirk, whom he called "one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this, who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups."

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MSNBC political analyst fired for blaming Charlie Kirk assassination on 'hate speech'

Cable news network MSNBC has reportedly fired veteran political analyst Matthew Dowd following widespread backlash to his on-air comments linking conservative activist Charlie Kirk s hate speech to

www.christianpost.com

Good to see them do this. I just wish other stations would follow suit with their on air personalities.

Zaha Torte · Sep 11, 2025

Tropical Wilds said:
Well, you and I agree on there being a facet of delusion at play here, at least.

The classic "I know you are, but what am I?"

I guess that is the level of argumentation I should expect.

Pommer · Sep 11, 2025

Valletta said:
BREAKING: Matthew Dowd Fired from MSNBC For Vile Comments Blaming Charlie Kirk For Assassination | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

MSNBC fired far-left political commentator Matthew Dowd on Wednesday evening for his vile comments about Charlie Kirk.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

MSNBC did the right thing here, this is a good sign. Conservatives have been urging people to pull back on the hatred and violent rhetoric.

“Bad thing” happens to person who said unpopular thing?

Zaha Torte · Sep 11, 2025

Pommer said:
Oddly, now only the government is “allowed” to enslave people.

Not according to the Thirteenth Amendment to the US Constitution.

Tropical Wilds · Sep 11, 2025

Chesterton said:
I have no idea what I need to clarify. At no time was Charlie Kirk an elected official.

Now it’s me who has to apologize for going over your head apparently as you seem to have forgotten both what we were talking about and what your stance was. See, the elected official who was assassinated got no lowered flag, nor did they get a call or visit from Trump AFAIK, and your rationale was… Meh. They didn’t do much and the state produced other leaders you don’t like, so one doesn’t need to do much when an official is assassinated in that scenario.

So I’m trying to clarify why the death of an elected official is NBD and the death of this guy has you elevating him to Saint and martyr, and how you can claim that’s somehow a pro-American viewpoint.

Chesterton said:
My apologies. I didn't mean to go over your head.

Nonsense often does.

A New Dawn · Sep 11, 2025

Dan Perez said:
And one I do believe what John 3:3 is real BUT its context speaks to Israel and Jesus is speaking to Nicodemus and

Not to Gentiles .

And I n verse 5 , Except a man. be BORN OF WATER. (. how does that happen ). it happens in Eze 36:25. to Israel ,

and of the Spirit , when does that happen and HOW. did it happen in Acts 2:38 he cannot enter the KINGDOM. OF God

so do you want to be in a Kingdom or do you want to PLACED into the Body of Christ as written. in. 1 Cor 12:13-17 as

you part of the Body of Christ and learn how to rightly DIVIDE the word of TRUTH , 2 Tim 2:15 . And Israel refused the

Holy Spirit and. Israel was set aside in. Acts 28:25-28 !!

dan p

Many scholars debate that the water baptism in verse 5 equals being born of a woman and born of the spirit is the baptism from above. He equates the two in the next verse. So I believe he is equating being born again as the spirit baptism (regeneration).

Zaha Torte · Sep 11, 2025

iluvatar5150 said:
oooohhhh.... that's what we're working with... ok

Oh? I don't remember that. To what are you referring? I do recall the incident in Charlottesville, and the incident in Austin, some others where I can see the visuals but forget the location, a couple different states trying to make it easier to run over protestors,

Yeah - the reason being the media only likes to show these types of crimes when the perpetrators are White - not when they are members of any "minority".

They tried ignoring the stabbing of Iryna Zarutska on the light rail and people still don't know about the trans and ANTIFA stuffed engraved on the casings of the bullets in the gun that assassinated Charlie Kirk.

They ignore, downplay, try to empathize with the criminals or just blame Trump.

The incident I initially referred to was the Waukesha Christmas Parade attack - which for days the media claimed "an SUV" ran over a bunch of people - because they didn't want to admit the driver was a black man.

essentialsaltes · Sep 11, 2025

chevyontheriver said:
You must not live in a state gerreymandered by Democrats.

Not yet, but come November it might be.

Pommer · Sep 11, 2025

Zaha Torte said:
Slavery used to be legal - did that make it right?

Oddly, now only the government is “allowed” to enslave people.

Tropical Wilds · Sep 11, 2025

ThatRobGuy said:
I'm just hoping people don't try to make some sort of "folk hero" out of them like they did for Luigi.

I’m sure he will be. If his name is Mario, it will be an entire thing.

Chesterton · Sep 11, 2025

Tropical Wilds said:
Then by all means, clarify what you mean, because I have to tell you it looks like you’re saying something awful shocking for a dude who says hateful rhetoric belongs only to the left.

I have no idea what I need to clarify. At no time was Charlie Kirk an elected official.

Tropical Wilds said:
And floor slippery when wet to you too, my guy.

My apologies. I didn't mean to go over your head.

Tropical Wilds · Sep 11, 2025

Zaha Torte said:
Yes. The Left is engaging in simple projection. They are delusional.

Well, you and I agree on there being a facet of delusion at play here, at least.

Tropical Wilds · Sep 11, 2025

rjs330 said:
I don't recall anyone saying that.

I didn’t say anybody said it. I said it.

rjs330 said:
As we learned from Charlies death "punishing" your opposition doesn't work. We can't punish our way out of the rhetoric the left is spewing. The only way to stop this violence is for those who are on the left to do it themselves. We can punish the perpetrators of violence, but only those on the ideological side of those who would do this can stop it.

I don’t know, I feel like people uniting to decry crazy people shooting people is kind of a bipartisan stance. Or it was, at some point.

A New Dawn · Sep 11, 2025

I use an NASB study Bible for my own personal Bible because it is the closest to the original manuscripts, and the church pew Bibles are ESV.

Zaha Torte · Sep 11, 2025

Tropical Wilds said:
Is this… Is this serious…?

Yes. The Left is engaging in simple projection. They are delusional.

Zaha Torte · Sep 11, 2025

NxNW said:
Carl Sagan wrote a great piece decades ago that refutes your argument. I'll let you Google it up. But you're getting off topic.

The topic is abortion. People keep claiming there is some magic argument out there, but they never share it.

boughtwithaprice · Sep 11, 2025

SabbathBlessings said:
Heres some more context to that passage

Mat 5:38 But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe. 39 You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. 40 But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.

41 “I do not receive honor from men. 42 But I know you, that you do not have the love of God in you. 43 I have come in My Father’s name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive. 44 How can you believe, who receive honor from one another, and do not seek the honor that comes from the only God? 45 Do not think that I shall accuse you to the Father; there is one who accuses you—Moses, in whom you trust. 46 For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. 47 But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”

If we do not believe and have Him and His word abiding in us, the Scriptures won't matter. The word of God needs to live inside us so we are doers of His word, not just hearers James 1:22. They read the Scriptures, but didn't believe Jesus even through the Scriptures testified of Him. He goes on to say this For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”

Like the testimony of Moses in the Scriptures of what was inside the ark of the covenant,

We are told very clearly, the word it to be the light to our path Psa 119:105 outside God;s word, there is no light Isa 8:20

Most of your post I agree with, but you fail to note that the Old Testament was a shadow of things to come. We are now living in the New Covenant. The old Ark is lost as it is not needed. The temple is destroyed not one stone upon another because it is no longer needed.

People are now the temple of the Holy Spirit and the Ark of the New Covenant is our Blessed mother Mary. Jesus even says behold thy mother. He did not say hey John do me a favor and take care of my mother. He said to Mary behold thy son signifying that disciples are now sons of Mary. As revelation says the seed of the woman keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ

You can try to explain it away by your own personal interpretation, but you cannot produce scripture which explicitly denies it

Jesus said to be as little children to enter the kingdom of heaven. Children need a mother
We do not worship Mary, but we humble ourselves before the one who bore God Himself, because it is God’s will. He planned it that way

Zaha Torte · Sep 11, 2025

pastorwaris said:
Beloved in Christ,

Yes, I have read all the Books of Enoch, and I must tell you I was amazed. It opened my eyes in ways I didn’t expect. Of course, I want to say right at the start that our foundation is and always will be the Word of God, the Holy Scriptures. That is our anchor, and nothing outside of it can take that place.

That being said, when I read Enoch, I saw it as a historical and spiritual book that gives us a window into how early believers understood the unseen world, the reality of angels, the seriousness of sin, and the majesty of God’s judgment. Even though it is not part of our biblical canon, the Bible itself makes references that remind us Enoch’s writings existed and were known. For example, Jude 1:14–15 actually quotes from Enoch.

What struck me most was how the book highlights the holiness of God and the consequences of rebellion, whether by angels or mankind. It reminded me that spiritual warfare is real and that the choices we make carry eternal weight. Reading Enoch gave me a deeper reverence for the righteousness of God and a fresh appreciation for the grace we’ve been given through Christ Jesus.

Now, would I build doctrine solely from it? No. But do I believe God can use even these ancient writings to stir our hearts toward holiness and readiness for the return of Christ? Absolutely, yes. To me, reading Enoch was like being reminded that our faith is not just a Sunday religion. It is rooted in a long history of God moving, warning, and preparing His people.

So, if you’ve never read it, I’d say approach it prayerfully. Let it point you back to Scripture and back to Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith. At the very least, you’ll gain a greater sense of awe about how big God’s plan truly is.

What about you, dear friend? Have you found that reading Enoch increased your hunger for God’s Word or deepened your awareness of the spiritual battle around us?

Grace and peace to you, in the mighty name of Jesus Christ.

A very articulate and pleasant response.

The more I explore apocryphal writings the more convinced I am that our version of Genesis is incomplete and that early scribes -deliberately or not - removed how everything was centered in Christ even from the beginning.

I do not believe that Enoch's references to the "sons of God" was about angels - but mortal men - sons of Seth and Priesthood holders who forsook their oaths - broke the holy covenant - and debased themselves with the daughters of Cain and brought much wickedness to the world that eventually caused God to act in order to save Mankind by means of the Deluge.

Tropical Wilds · Sep 11, 2025

iluvatar5150 said:
oooohhhh.... that's what we're working with... ok

LoL I had the same, exact reaction. I did an actual “oh my.”

Niels · Sep 11, 2025

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rjs330 · Sep 11, 2025

Tropical Wilds said:
I think this death is bringing out a new level of radicalization, and I fear that means we are just at the beginning of this wave of… Whatever we call this… And “punish the libs” is about to be the rallying cry for some very bad things.

I don't recall anyone saying that. As we learned from Charlies death "punishing" your opposition doesn't work. We can't punish our way out of the rhetoric the left is spewing. The only way to stop this violence is for those who are on the left to do it themselves. We can punish the perpetrators of violence, but only those on the ideological side of those who would do this can stop it.

I do not defend, support or excuse ANY person who would think that murdering someone for their beliefs or political advocacy is the right thing to do. That dude who murdered that law maker in Minnesota is as evil and wicked as the one that killed Charlie. We cant murder our way out of this division.

Tropical Wilds · Sep 11, 2025

Chesterton said:
Might want to get your hearing checked.

Then by all means, clarify what you mean, because I have to tell you it looks like you’re saying something awful shocking for a dude who says hateful rhetoric belongs only to the left.

Chesterton said:
Okay, it could be that the left has a dimmer switch, the right has an on/off switch.

And floor slippery when wet to you too, my guy.

iluvatar5150 · Sep 11, 2025

Zaha Torte said:
All the J6 claims have been debunked. The Feds were the only ones doing damage that day while the patriots were escorted in and around by Capitol Police and had a nice tour.

oooohhhh.... that's what we're working with... ok

Zaha Torte said:
I do recall a motor vehicle being used by a deranged leftists to hurt White people

Oh? I don't remember that. To what are you referring? I do recall the incident in Charlottesville, and the incident in Austin, some others where I can see the visuals but forget the location, a couple different states trying to make it easier to run over protestors,

Fisherking · Sep 11, 2025

Douggg said:
Near the end of the 7 years, in Daniel 11:40-44, the beast-king headquartered in Jerusalem will be attacked from the south, then north, then east.

Armageddon is Jesus who comes from the East alone. Dan. 11:40-43 is the Anti-Christ conquering Israel and THE MANY (every nation on the Mediterranean Sea Coastline save those in the E.U. Thus Rome is Revived under the auspices of the European Union.

Rome.........The Church Age comes.....then the 70th week comes as of the church age never existed.

Douggg said:
Why ? We can only speculate. imo, it will be because the beast-king (king of the West, i.e the EU with likely allies of Canada and the United States) will be directing all the middle east oil to the western alliance. Oil being the life blood of the nations, will give them no choice but to attack the beast-king to free up the oil.

The USA will be burning (the 1/3 is a destination point, not 1/3 of the trees burning. Its the New World burning, how was fire from the New World or vice versa going to ever jump across the ocean after the asteroid impact? So, the USA is not in the equation at all, and Canada is a joke militarily speaking. Its spiritual in nature, not about oil. Gog & Magog may be about oil/natural gas.

Douggg said:
It should be noted that the attack from the east will be by the armies of China (Revelation 16:12). In Revelation 9:13-19, there will be a third of mankind killed by a 200,000,000 size army. So I think that will be by the armies of China as they march westward through Pakistan, India. Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, and other "stan" countries.

The 200 Million are Angels, nit men on horses. They deliver plagues from God, Satan CANNOT wipe our or kill Satan, Jesus told us that. Plagues are of God, now reread Rev. 9:20-21. You get off-tracked by starting off road.

Douggg said:
So there will be a big battle near the end of the 7 years, Daniel 11:40-44.

That battle happens in the exact middle of the week, he has to rile over Israel for 1260 days.

Douggg said:
As the battle is taking place, like a thief in the night, the sixth seal event will happen and the world will see Jesus in heaven, sickle in hand.

The THEIF can only be referring the Pre Trib. Rapture, in Rev. 16 God is MOCKING THOSE who did not heed the prophets warnings. As in I told you so, SEE, SEE, SEE, you fate was SEALED when Jesus came for he Church, like a thief in the night you missed the Rapture.

Douggg said:
In the face of the threat to their existence, the nations will stop battling with the beast king and his armies, and will unite under the beast-king's leadership (Revelation 16:12-16). And with their armies already in the middle east will gather at Armageddon to prepare for making war on Jesus and His army of heaven.

The AC 9s voted to be the E.U. President and he ONLY Conquers Israel and THE MANY, no one else.

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