iluvatar5150 said:

lol, the people balking at the covid vaccine while listening to "America's Frontline Doctors" and trying to get hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin were not mad about having to comply with "unscientific claptrap."

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Most people balking at the COVID vaccine were simply paying attention to what was happening around them. First we were told that this was a durable vaccine that would only require two doses and prevent you from getting infected. Then when boosters came out, they pivoted and tried to say that they "always" knew it was a three-dose vaccine. Then when the NEXT booster came out, they changed their story AGAIN and said well, it won't stop you from getting COVID, but at least you won't die. Here's a great compilation of Peter Hotez moving the goalposts with each new vaccine dose.

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The goalposts moved again, and again, and again, and again. And if you listen to Dr. Waleknsky talk about why they made such bold proclamations about how the vaccine would prevent you from getting COVID and would be durable and long-lasting, it was all based on wishful thinking.

Do that long enough and people will stop listening to you.

iluvatar5150 said:

And yet, most of those same folks also balked at restrictions on large, indoor gatherings. What better way to spread a respiratory infection than corporate singing like you'd have in church?

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Just listen to how Dr. Mandy Cohen, Director of the CDC, decided how and when to institute restrictions. Tell me where you hear the scientific process in her statements.


The metrics for when restrictions were implemented and lifted were completely arbitrary and literally changed by the hour. In PA, you couldn't go to a bar... unless they served food. Then you could go and eat... and drink, but only if you also ate. And who can forget one-way aisles in the stores. Or sand-filled skate parks in California. Or 2x4 boards nailed over basketball hoops. Or band students who cut holes in their masks so they could play their wind instruments. Or arresting people for relaxing on the beach by themselves.

The list goes on and on. These were all nonsensical MANDATES by governments at all levels. And anyone with even a modicum of common sense knew they were absurd nonsense. They were practically begging people to ignore their evidence-poor proclamations while flushing all of their trust and credibility right down the toilet.

Goal achieved:

Newsom Firmly In Driver’s Seat Of 2028 Dem Primary After Gerrymandering Gambit: POLL​

Newsom notched 25% support, marking a 13-point increase from the June Emerson College poll, according to the August survey. Meanwhile, 16% of voters said they would support former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg in the 2028 Democratic primary contest and only 11% said they would support former Vice President Kamala Harris, the party’s failed 2024 nominee, according to the new poll.

NxNW said:

There is no such party.

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Sure is - they are the ones loosing support.

NxNW said:

Polio doesn't care what you trust.

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There has been one case of polio is 46 years and that was caused by a vaccine.

iluvatar5150 said:

None of this is different in scale than what we already do for motor vehicles, of which there are currently about 280 million registered in the US. The total number of vehicles owned may be lower, but turnover is far higher, with total sales numbers being around 16-17 million per month.

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Right - however there are some differences

1. There are systems already established an in place.
2. 280 million is a tad more than half of 500 million
3. Driving is a privilege, not a right

Remember the manufacturing numbers are between 9 and 13 million - there is no way of knowing how many millions are traded or sold currently. There is also no way of knowing (at this point) who owns what weapon.

How do you get that information? That is what we have been talking about.

durangodawood said:

Well then all the more reason the release these files. Right?

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Wouldn't bother me in the least - I wish they would

essentialsaltes said:

What did this person say yesterday?

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Look it up - it is searchable.

Clare73 said:

Does not address God's "duplicitousness" with Pharaoh in commanding Pharaoh to do a thing which God hardened his heart against doing "so that" he could not do it (Ex 4:21).

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You might call that duplicitous if you like. But it's not lying because God's desire didn't change. If He had told Pharaoh that He would never harden his heart and then He hardened his heart that would be an instance of lying.

Love your enemies
Matthew 5
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essentialsaltes said:

In 2021, Daskalakis posed for the cover of Plus Magazine wearing a leather harness, an article of clothing popular among gay men and tied to the gay leather and BDSM communities.

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Under a suit…it’s tame, (the horrors though).

Valletta said:

Winston Churchill

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Churchill was known for being pretty uninhibited, to the point that he frequently talked to advisors while on the toilet and once had a meeting with FDR in the nude. I would be pretty amused if Trump tried something like that.

Hoping2 said:

Good observation.
With God, there are no "gray areas".

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And just to questions ??

# 1 And the word CHRISTIAN // CHRISTIANOS was first written in Acts 11:26. !!

# 2 And you said that the BURIED treasure. , the BORN AGAIN Christians to be saved , are you speaking of John 3:3 and 5. ?

# 3 Since you believe that verse How can anyone be BORN AGAIN. in John 3:3 ??

# 4 And how are you born of WATER and the Spirit in verse 5. ??

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probinson said:

What they objected to was being told that they had to comply with unscientific claptrap.

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lol, the people balking at the covid vaccine while listening to "America's Frontline Doctors" and trying to get hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin were not mad about having to comply with "unscientific claptrap."

probinson said:

You seem to be glossing over the fact that PPE in certain contexts has been shown to be beneficial, mostly because people are trained how to wear the PPE so that it is effective and because the PPE is specific to the task at hand. OTOH, telling everyone to make masks out of old T-shirts and wear them outside when they were alone was always ridiculous nonsense.

What people objected to was the imposition of things that had no evidence base.

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And yet, most of those same folks also balked at restrictions on large, indoor gatherings. What better way to spread a respiratory infection than corporate singing like you'd have in church?

Vambram said:

Those lower level judges are consistently being overruled by higher appeals courts and the SCOTUS.

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Nuh-uh. Most of these cases are so new that nothing has reached full SCOTUS review, though SCOTUS has allowed some actions to continue (and forbidden others, like eliminating birthright citizenship in certain states) for the time being. And things are only slowly getting to the Appeals stage.

MarkRohfrietsch said:

Henry, good to see you and good to be here, don't worry, I won't be apologizing for mine either. As I get older, I have became more resolute in my faith and more steadfastly confessional Lutheran; the faith my ancestors suffered for in Europe and that which they built and maintained here in the new world. I have witnessed (physical and not just spiritual) healing through the eucharist, both personally and in others who had made their peace with God. I have also witnessed how the Eucharist affected one who was demonically possessed. My faith in Christ and the Holy Sacrament is unwavering.

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We can all rejoice in what Jesus does during the breaking of bread.

Many from all denominations gathered from the streets and participated together in this way and I was not ordained, yet had the support of my church. Many were healed at this time as you also witnessed. Such is our Fathers Love for all.

Some low moments this week:
---In addition to my aunt passing away:
---I found out an online friend elsewhere committed suicide the other day. It really stings. It'd be like if one of you did. Please don't. Please remember the Lord & his goodness to you.
---My friend is struggling w/ health. Probably nothing to fret over, but you never really know, we are too young to be struggling w/ health.

A reminder he changes the times & the seasons

Aldebaran said:

If criminals feel so oppressed that they stop their criminal behavior, I'm ok with that.

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What are you even talking about "if criminals feel oppressed?"
Do you think there are no common citizens in Chicago? Do you think EVERYONE is a criminal there? Do you think every Chicago citizen would be happy about the NG coming there.

Also, if big city American police aren't going to stop gangsters....you seriously think the NG is going to get it done?
That is some signficant, baseless, hope.

Aldebaran said:

Seems to have worked out well in DC.

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What are you even talking about? There was insufficient crime to send the NG to DC too. They're doing landscape work because there is nothing to do.

They weren't needed before. Their impact is nothing. Their morale is low (probably because they are 100% aware that this is political posturing and nothing a necessary operation)

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Remember we are talking about minority on minority crime, since the good mayor took office:

Total Estimate (May 15, 2023 – September 3, 2025):

• Victims:
  • 2023 (May 15–Dec 31): ~1,591 victims.
  • 2024: ~2,125 victims.
  • 2025 (Jan 1–Sep 3): ~1,120 victims.

That is 4,836 victims

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Source?

essentialsaltes said:

Judges are literally telling them to stop violating the law.

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Those lower level judges are consistently being overruled by higher appeals courts and the SCOTUS.

Always in His Presence said:

500,000,000 weapons - a whopping 0.028% of which are used in some type of crime. That leave 99.972% of that 500 million never used for criminal activity.

Let me explain - I have x number of weapons in my home right now - not one of which is registered - why? Because I don't have to. I'm not alone - there are tens of millions of gun owners just like me. How does the Government know what I do and do not have? There is no way for them to know.

What if someone changes their barrel?

In addition, it has been suggested and roundly defeated for reasons already cited. But your post bring something else up I would like to ask about.

According to the ATF

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Between 9.9 million and 13 million weapons are manufactured each year.

Picture what would be needed to build a database that would house 500,000,000 current weapons and 9-13 million additional weapons a year that would actively track them from manufacturer to subsequent owners - giving access to 3,142 counties and innumerable police departments.

While it is not a bad idea - I doubt if it is even partially obtainable from the start.

Somehow I doubt that.

But thanks - It is an interesting point.

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None of this is different in scale than what we already do for motor vehicles, of which there are currently about 280 million registered in the US. The total number of vehicles owned may be lower, but turnover is far higher, with total sales numbers being around 16-17 million per month.

keith99 said:

I'm pretty sure there once was a European country that did this. But that is what The Leader wanted back then, and it is what Leader Trump wants now.

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Yep, and the playbook hasn't changed much.
Redefinition of citizenship and who are citizens.
Replacing judges with those who support the party line.

iluvatar5150 said:

You read and responded to that entire post and yet somehow managed to miss my point, which was that it wasn't specifically vaccine mandates that people objected to.

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I got your point. I disagree with it.

iluvatar5150 said:

What they objected to was a disruption of what they were used to.

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What they objected to was being told that they had to comply with unscientific claptrap.

iluvatar5150 said:

People had normalized and accepted mandated vaccines in certain contexts for years such as for school admission and for certain jobs like healthcare and military service. And yes, whether or not you like the term, it largely was anti-vax kooks who balked at them prior to covid. There was no large scale backlash to those mandates.

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That backlash is growing quickly now. Vaccine uptake was harmed across the board because of ill-advised, ineffective COVID vaccine mandates. Gruber and Krause warned of it and pandemic preparedness plans talked about how coercion of forced vaccinations were counterproductive. It's not even a little bit surprising to me that ALL vaccine uptake has suffered because of foolish COVID vaccine mandates.

iluvatar5150 said:

Likewise, there was no backlash to mandates for wearing PPE in certain contexts, like construction or health care jobs, because people had grown to accept those mandates.

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You seem to be glossing over the fact that PPE in certain contexts has been shown to be beneficial, mostly because people are trained how to wear the PPE so that it is effective and because the PPE is specific to the task at hand. OTOH, telling everyone to make masks out of old T-shirts and wear them outside when they were alone was always ridiculous nonsense.

iluvatar5150 said:

What people objected to was the imposition of something new.

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What people objected to was the imposition of things that had no evidence base.

fhansen said:

As I said. So the question for you today remains the same. Did God want his people to remain in captivity or did he want his people to be set free as he told Pharaoh?

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Does not address God's "duplicitousness" with Pharaoh in commanding Pharaoh to do a thing which God hardened his heart against doing "so that" he could not do it (Ex 4:21).

essentialsaltes said:

Epstein List Could Be Read On House Floor Under Constitutional Immunity​

Republican Representatives Thomas Massie and Marjorie Taylor Greene have said they would be willing to take advantage of a constitutional immunity rule to read the names of Jeffrey Epstein's associates allegedly involved in abuse.

But will she show us anyone's junk this time?

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Tales of the Stopped Clock?