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rjs330 · 2025-11-27T13:32:26-0600

BCP1928 said:
gender is more complex, a combination of biological sex, emotional and congnitive states and societal expectations.

No its not. Gender is sex. You can substitute sex for ANYTHING gender related and it would mean the same thing.

Even in your examples.
Emotional state of what?
Cognitive state of what?
Societal expectations of what?

RileyG · 2025-11-27T13:29:33-0600

BCP1928 said:
Neither are trans people. They know what they are and what their biology is and are not trying to deceive anybody about it. They also know how they want to be treated and their dress and overt behavior in a fairly strictly gendered society is the signal they send,

It's tough. Biological sex is fairly straightforward but gender is more complex, a combination of biological sex, emotional and congnitive states and societal expectations. Writing off a failure to meet those societal expectations as "mental illness" is not a solution.

So called gender affirming care hasn’t been a solution either. Saying someone has a mental illness and should seek treatment for it is compassionate route.

And yes, many of them have purposefully deceived people and simply don’t care.

Landon Caeli · 2025-11-27T13:28:48-0600

joymercy said:
Pope Leo wants us to pray for people suffering under the heavy burden of despair.

Not all suicides are obvious ones.....

I am going to guess that this Afgan citizen lost all hope, because he was going to be greatly outnumbered and most likely killed

So he decided he'd just murder a couple people. And we're supposed to feel sorry for him?

Strong in Him · 2025-11-27T13:26:45-0600

prodromos said:
The fact that you keep reposting that list of 200 verses every few months despite it being thoroughly debunked, strongly suggests the onset of dementia.

Or desperation.

rjs330 · 2025-11-27T13:26:26-0600

Stopped_lurking said:
My point is no one actually uses sex to determine what pronouns to use, we go by social and visual clues. I've gotten missexed enough, that I know people can't reliably guess sex if ones features are androgynous. And no one ever asked for a blood sample to check my sex chromosomes either. So I think it isn't true that pronouns somehow are linked to sex

They are. The fact that you've been missexed is irrelevant. It was a mistake. Just like someone can think one is white when in fact you might be native American. You are what you were born as and pronouns are tied to sex. "He" is tied to the male sex. She is tied to the female sex. If it wasn't then it wouldn't be such a big deal to those who want to be called the opposite sex pronouns. If tgey were truly neutral you could call anyone whatever you wanted.

prodromos · 2025-11-27T13:25:04-0600

Apple Sky said:
But they do & people just can't see it or rather they just don't want to see it.

The fact that you keep reposting that list of 200 verses every few months despite it being thoroughly debunked, strongly suggests the onset of dementia.

timothyu · 2025-11-27T13:23:04-0600

RamiC said:
"16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16

This fellow clearly explains what is required in this short, Jesus' Gospel of the Kingdom

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timothyu · 2025-11-27T13:19:12-0600

Dreyma said:
But if you're wanting it in my words... I guess it seems to me that there are two main changes:
1) A heart change - You grow in your love for God and others.
2) A life change - You turn from living for self to living for God.

Agreed
Scripture says no more selfishness, loving all as self and forgiving those who wrong you. Not really a stretch, unless self-interest is your god.

rjs330 · 2025-11-27T13:18:47-0600

Stopped_lurking said:
Where is it published then?

I want their published results.

Talk to them about it.

timothyu · 2025-11-27T13:17:13-0600

RamiC said:
I believe it is a spritual state of separation from God, the people who are in it do not want to be anywhere near Him. He will not drag people to Him if they do not want to be there, that would be rude, and God is not rude.

As it already is in earth

rambot · 2025-11-27T13:14:48-0600

jinkies.

I expect to see Trump supporters on here telling us that we are believing lies guys.

We should know better

iluvatar5150 · 2025-11-27T13:14:35-0600

rambot said:
Really hey?
Well, it's probably silly to think they don't exist anywhere. I'm sure in 30 years there may still be a few Trump defenders too.

I’ve been pretty disappointed with the lack of derision directed at jim. I kind of get not wanting to make Hillary collateral damage, but still… Given the attitudes levied towards other creeps, Bubba should have been run out of town on a rail. But he’s mostly just been allowed to fade into the background like a bunch of creepy famous musicians have.

iluvatar5150 · 2025-11-27T13:10:57-0600

joymercy said:
His friend had been denied asylum by President Trump.

According to the CBS article, his friend died in 2024, so while it’s possible that he was denied by Trump, it seems unlikely to me that he was denied by only Trump.

NxNW said:
Trump let the shooter in.

No, he didn’t.

Lukaris · 2025-11-27T13:10:48-0600

Dreyma said:
I know. Sanctification is a lifelong process, and there are ups/downs. I think there should be an upward trend over the

See 2 Thessalonians 2:13 & read 2 Thessalonians 2:1-17. Also 1 Corinthians 13:12-13.

rambot · 2025-11-27T13:09:43-0600

iluvatar5150 said:
eh… I suppose you could quibble over the definition of “leftist,” but I run across people who, if they don’t outright defend him, are certainly inclined to shrug off his misdeeds. The defense is a shadow of what it was in the 90’s, but it’s not completely gone.

Really hey?
Well, it's probably silly to think they don't exist anywhere. I'm sure in 30 years there may still be a few Trump defenders too.

Multifavs · 2025-11-27T13:08:52-0600

Happy Thanksgiving!

Akita Suggagaki · 2025-11-27T13:08:30-0600

"Undeniably, those who willfully shut out God from their hearts and try to dodge religious questions are not following the dictates of their consciences, and hence are not free of blame; yet believers themselves frequently bear some responsibility for this situation. For, taken as a whole, atheism is not a spontaneous development but stems from a variety of causes, including a critical reaction against religious beliefs, and in some places against the Christian religion in particular. Hence believers can have more than a little to do with the birth of atheism. To the extent that they neglect their own training in the faith, or teach erroneous doctrine, or are deficient in their religious, moral or social life, they must be said to conceal rather than reveal the authentic face of God and religion." #19

Gaudium et spes

Pastoral Constitution on the Church in the Modern Word: Gaudium et spes

www.vatican.va

Dreyma · 2025-11-27T13:08:27-0600

timothyu said:
Described as what?

There are plenty of descriptions in the Bible of what it looks like to live in the spirit rather than the flesh.

But if you're wanting it in my words... I guess it seems to me that there are two main changes:
1) A heart change - You grow in your love for God and others.
2) A life change - You turn from living for self to living for God.

(Of course, the two changes are not easily separated. The second change flows from the first.)

eleos1954 · 2025-11-27T13:06:30-0600

another_lost_guy said:
You may have read this thread title and thought "of course atheism exists, my coworker is an atheist" or something like that.

No, your coworker just calls himself an atheist, but in reality he just worships lower gods than Christ (such as video games, anime, porn, money, etc

Here is the scripture I see as backing this up:

“Their end is destruction, their god is their belly, and they glory in their shame, with minds set on earthly things.” - Philippians 3:19

In my opinion, as someone who is neither a priest or a theologian, this shows that all atheists worship their own god(s), which dismantles many pretentious atheist arguments such as "I just worship one less god than you do" and "religion is inherited", etc;

Scripture does not really define what atheism is aside from it being foolish so I wanted to make this thread to ask if we as Christians should even believe in such a thing as atheism

Atheism is the non belief of any gods.

The term "atheist" isn't used in the Bible, but the concept of practical atheism is described as "the fool says in his heart, 'There is no God'" (Psalm 14:1).

God's law is written on everyone's heart ... has to be .... because all are judged according to the law .... judgement is entirely up to Jesus and we are not privy to His judgements. The reality is we don't know who will or will not be in heaven. What I do know is that God knows everything and I trust His judgement completely.

The apostle Paul warns the Philippians in Philippians 3:18-19 about false Christians who are "enemies of the cross of Christ" because they live "earthly things" and "set their mind on earthly things". He describes these individuals with sadness, saying he tells them about this "even weeping". Their ultimate fate, Paul states, is "destruction".

iluvatar5150 · 2025-11-27T13:05:41-0600

rambot said:
The point is, now: there are no "leftists" defending clinton. It's all the ghosts of the left that haunt the brains of old republicans who remember the discomfort the left felt back then and were not as condemning. And then metoo happenned and people realized....hey, actually, we should believe women and women are being hurt too often.

eh… I suppose you could quibble over the definition of “leftist,” but I run across people who, if they don’t outright defend him, are certainly inclined to shrug off his misdeeds. The defense is a shadow of what it was in the 90’s, but it’s not completely gone.

iluvatar5150 · 2025-11-27T13:01:42-0600

BPPLEE said:
What fear? I thought he was granted asylum

The post to which I was replying claimed that the basis for his asylum claim was an “Islamic lie.” I would say that working for the CIA would be sufficient to fear retaliation and establish credible justification for asylum.

RocksInMyHead · 2025-11-27T13:01:41-0600

BPPLEE said:
What fear? I thought he was granted asylum

Yes - the accusation was that his asylum application being accepted was "another example of Islamic lies in order to gain entry to this country."

Dreyma · 2025-11-27T12:59:42-0600

RamiC said:
It can be slow, and steady. It is not always a sudden revolution.

I know. Sanctification is a lifelong process, and there are ups/downs. I think there should be an upward trend over the years, though.

Strong in Him · 2025-11-27T12:59:03-0600

Apple Sky said:
But they do & people just can't see it or rather they just don't want to see it.

No - that's just you.

How does, "be still and know that I am God", teach, and support, a flat earth? How?
How does the fact that Matthew's Bible "mentions" flat earth - in a completely different context - teach us about the shape of the earth?

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