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The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

So the risk of suicide is almost double in veterans than in older gender minority adults. That is a good argument to avoid the military I guess.


In the longitudinal studies comparing pre- and post-surgery risk collated in this review, the risk for suicide are reduced after gender affirming surgery.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/26318318231189836

However the risk is still elevated compared to the population in general, but that is not strange. Living as a trans persons is of course another potential hardship.
Adults can make their own decisions. Just leave minors alone and out of it.

I think that’s a fair compromise.
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The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

We learned stuff.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

-- A2SG, people don't always fit into the tidy boxes some want them to....
Yes. We learned how many people have been harmed by this ideology. Telling impressionable children they were born in the wrong body only causes immense harm.
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The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

I'm well aware of that. The point this exchange derived from was that homosexual experimentation causes psychological damage, and that's far from demonstrable.

Sexual orientation isn't a choice, as you've noted, and even if someone chooses to experiment with a different orientation, the likelihood is they'll find it doesn't work for them, and they'll eventually settle on the one that's right for them. There is no evidence that this kind of activity necessarily results in psychological damage. Perhaps it might in certain specific cases, due to other issues, but for the vast majority of people, they're attracted to who they're attracted to, and they can't make themselves attracted to someone they're not. Which, as I noted, is why conversion therapy doesn't work.

-- A2SG, and I personally believe that anyone who has an opinion about someone else's sexual orientation should keep it to themselves.....
I don’t disagree at all.
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The Biblical Basis of 10 Catholic Distinctives

The Baptists have already won this argument a long time ago by one simple trick: THEY REDEFINE THE HISTORICAL DEFINITION OF "HOUSEHOLD" from all those living under the same roof regardless of age to only adults unless the Biblical text says there are children present. Do not believe this.

So how do we interpret Scripture here? We ask the diagnostic question(s): 1) Do the words and grammar of Scripture determine theological content and belief? 2) Or does your theological belief determine what words should mean in Scripture?

Clearly and plainly, Baptists use interpretative principle #2 when defining the word "household" due to their anti-paedo beliefs. By fiat, Baptists just declare a household can not have children living in them UNLESS THE TEXT SAYS CHILDREN ARE PRESENT! Pure eisegesis but this interpretation emotionally satisfies the Baptist belief in credobaptism. This is interpretive cheating.

Household baptisms scripturally are born from Peter's words....this promise is to you and your children (Acts 2:39). Baptists seem to ignore this passage of Scripture. A household is basically everyone leaving under the same roof regardless of age. A Baptist interpret a household as everyone leaving under the same roof except those under the Age of Accountability. How bogus!

The Merriam-Webster Dictionary definition of a household 1) those who dwell under the same roof and compose a family 2)a social unit composed of those living together in the same dwelling. And certainly the legal definition of a household: A household is composed of one or more people who occupy a housing unit. Tax filer + spouse + tax dependents = household. But of course the credo's discount this also.

The Scriptural definition of a household includes both children and servants .
  • I Tim 3:12 A deacon must be faithful to his wife and must manage his children (τέκνων) and his household (οἴκων) well.
  • I Tim 3:4 [A shepherd] must be one who manages his own household (οἴκου) well, keeping his children (τέκνα) under control with all dignity.
One passage of Scripture which gives the credos harsh criticism is I Tim. 5:8.
  • "But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.”
  • Paul is clearly talking to believers here because only a believer can become worse than an unbeliever.
  • Is Paul saying here because children are not specifically mentioned in this passage, Christian parents are exempt from providing for their smallest and youngest children?
  • Nonsense. As is the same with credo's redefining words of Scripture to match their theological bias and a futile attempt to EXPLAIN AWAY paedobaptism altogether from Scripture.
Well? It did develop over time, but there is plenty of evidence of children being baptized as early as the 2nd century.

Baptism replaced circumcision, which was done on 8 day old male Jewish babies, but in this case, baptism is for ALL.

Baptism saves. It DOES something and is a means of grace. It’s ALWAYS been connected with the forgiveness of sins.

It’s not ONLY symbolic.
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JD Vance responds to Pope Leo's comments about immigration policy

It's hard to take a man surrounded by a giant stone wall seriously when he's asking us to open our borders. It's hard to take people who lock their house doors in gated, elitist communities seriously when they ask us to allow immigrants, illegal and otherwise, to flood our towns. Open borders brings sex trafficking, child abuse, murders, rapes, drug addiction and overdose deaths, a strain on resources (such as housing and medical), and countless other issues. I don't think the Pope's message was intentionally obtuse so much as it was not knowing the right way to serve all people in the best way possible. It's an impossibly difficult thing from a faith perspective, but a rather straightforward and easy thing politically (shut it down, figure out your own country).
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Pro's and con's of using AI in political debate.

I don’t really care what ai knows. I care what people think. That’s why I come to discussion boards. AI doesn’t have any better insight into your opinion than I can try to guess on my own.
Fair enough.

OCCASIONALLY, folks want something different than to know what others think. SOMETIMES, folks want information or analysis.

And yes, many of us like to point to references that show why we say something. I look to AI several times a day; to Google, ALEXA and my car's navigation system, as well as other places.
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OPTION ONE
I could choose not to post an AI analysis from Google that uses hundreds of sites before consolidating and giving an analysis.

OPTION TWO
I could choose only to refer folks to single sources.

OPTION THREE
I could choose only to give my own opinions without giving sources supporting my conclusions.
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Personally, I am capable of evaluating an analysis of a poster. Personally, I don't give much credence to I saw this one speaker or study on the internet as supporting evidence, unless I know the source. And yes, the consolidated conclusions are more likely to be better support than a single source.
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"Don't Give up the Ship"

Why would anyone expect the president to be as smart as the White House lawyers in crafting Executive Branch documentation?
I don't think an understanding of his positions limits and what kind of things constitute illegal orders is a high bar to set, if even a one. Just feels like you don't expect anything of him.
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Questions and Answers

I guess you won't agree, even when I point out the logical form of your reasoning, that you are saying works are necessary for salvation?
Of course I won't agree because I didn't say that and don't believe that.

Is Ephesians 2:8-10 not clear enough for you? Paul very clearly taught that we are saved by grace through faith and NOT by works. Good works are what God prepares for us AFTER we are saved by grace through faith. Is there anything you don't understand about that? Is there anything I said there that would lead you to believe I'm saying works are necessary for salvation? If you think so, then your reading comprehension skills need a lot of work. If works were necessary for salvation, then the thief on the cross wasn't saved. Yet, he clearly was saved.
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Are the Jews Israel, or is the church Israel? Or does it depend on the context of the passage?

Jesus never said anything, even after he rose from the dead, that the Law is now optional for any of them (Matthew 28:20).

So if obedience to the Law was required to enter the kingdom before the cross, it continue to be required after the cross.
You continue to just ignore the fact that scripture teaches that the old covenant law was made obsolete (was no longer in effect) by the blood of Christ, which also established the new covenant, as written in Hebrews 8-10. Nothing you say can change that.
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Are the Jews Israel, or is the church Israel? Or does it depend on the context of the passage?

There is a simpler explanation, but it won't matter to you.
Your repeated false explanations don't matter to me. You're right about that. But, that doesn't mean you can't share your opinions. Others can read your posts, too. If you think your explanation is the truth, then you should share it.
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The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

"Gender affirming care" (According to Medicare data) increases suicide stats by double compared to "cis gender" population.
Another stat I saw cited that almost 20% of 10 year post op transgender individuals commit suicide. (40% attempt) I think that may be the HIGHEST suicide rate in any population. (At last it's the highest stat I've ever seen.)

Suicide rates general populations:
(Veterans = 14%)
(Police = .021%)
(Incarcerated in state or federal prisons = 8%)

Your use of the phrase "suicide stats" is really vague as it's split into ideation, attempt and successful attempt. Generally, these all follow the same pattern from what I've seen but not always.
That said, a lot of the studies I've skimmed are comparing post op suicide attempts with the GENERAL population and I gotta say right off the bat, that is NOT an apprpriate comparision.
All of the stats you are quoting above is PRE-op. The link you provided didn't actually refer to "Gender affirming care" just "Gender minorities getting treatment and gender minorities with disabilities [nonspecified]. It cannot be deduced that the article was referring to "post op" individuals but seems to be referring to 'preop" phrase of their transition. Maybe I missed it?


The suicide ideation rate pre-op is 40% in trans kiddos (has has been consistent with the 4 trans people I've worked with (not really...they all had suicidal ideation).

So ....unbelievably shocking, that is somehow an improvement.


What is so utterly and completely baffling is that the regret rate for these surgeries is just, unbelievably low compared to so many other kinds of surgeries.

If this regret rate is low (and it's undeniably low), then one has to wonder if the surgery remains the problem 10 years later or if, perhaps their own belief or treatment and lack of acceptance in their society would continue to make them feel ostracized, alone and suicidal (paraphrasing a study that noted this as the likely reason).
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Corrie ten Boom: Restoration Through Forgiveness

That is wonderful to hear - what a special connection to Corrie ten Boom’s story. Her faithfulness in the midst of such trials continues to inspire so many of us. I love that you aspire to grow in faith as she did; her testimony reminds us that God’s grace can strengthen us to be faithful wherever He has placed us.
The house in Haarlem is left in its original state and is still a museum: Home | Corrie ten Boom House

Her testimony is humbling - I'm only underway and in a position of humility given past failures - but maybe that's exactly where Yeshua wants us to be.
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The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

Extreme ideologies such as these don't belong in public schools. Impressionable minors don't need to be exposed to it. Let them live their lives. Boys are boys, and girls are girls. 15-20 years ago, we never heard of this! Now it's everywhere! What changed? ugh
We learned stuff.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

-- A2SG, people don't always fit into the tidy boxes some want them to....
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The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

No one is saying otherwise. Behavior, is a choice. Sexual orientation and sexual behavior are two different things. That's the difference.
I'm well aware of that. The point this exchange derived from was that homosexual experimentation causes psychological damage, and that's far from demonstrable.

Sexual orientation isn't a choice, as you've noted, and even if someone chooses to experiment with a different orientation, the likelihood is they'll find it doesn't work for them, and they'll eventually settle on the one that's right for them. There is no evidence that this kind of activity necessarily results in psychological damage. Perhaps it might in certain specific cases, due to other issues, but for the vast majority of people, they're attracted to who they're attracted to, and they can't make themselves attracted to someone they're not. Which, as I noted, is why conversion therapy doesn't work.

-- A2SG, and I personally believe that anyone who has an opinion about someone else's sexual orientation should keep it to themselves.....
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