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The Liturgist · 2025-12-07T01:17:13-0600

Paidiske said:
Sigh. How is it the second Sunday of Advent already?

Look at the bright side: Gaudete Sunday is next, with the exquisite rose-colored vestments (at least in some Anglican parishes), one of only two occasions when they get used (I myself think they ought to be used on the eve of the Feast of the Holy Apostles St. Peter and Paul, and between Transfiguration and the feast of St. Mary in churches that celebrate both in August).

stevevw · 2025-12-07T01:09:36-0600

I wonder how all these stories of systemic corruption and fraud within these immigration or lack of immigration programs. It seems they are proving Trump right that there is widespread corruption within the whole immigration sector and over the past few years under the Dems they have ripped off the US for billions.

Not to mention that this type of corruption usually comes with all sorts of other crimes and compromises of the law. I think we will find this is very deep and wide and a blight on the whole ideology of the Dems immigration policies and philosophy.

Most Americans are waking up to their own leaders allowing such a situation where billions of their own tax payer money was being siphoned off to corrupt people who were allowed in and to stay despite all the red flags.

Surely now people will be beginning to understand the gravity of this and how there is a need to stop this corruption and completely restructure the system. Sort out the US and its own peoples welfare before trying to save the world and bring all their problems.

This is crazy and I reckon we will see more of this happening in all nations that opened their arms without vetting millions of people who we now know many have brought their problems into what use to be free and safe nations.

Now when the radicals want to attac k ICE agents who are getting these corrupt people who have no right to be here out. They will think twice that the person they are wanting to free has actually ripped their own children off. How can they know. This crazy idea of defying authority based on some misguided ideology is crazy.

In fact the radical ideology belongs in the same basket as the leaders who allowed this and the cause of this whole mess. They are just adding more fuel to the chaos.

David Lamb · 2025-12-07T01:02:52-0600

jas3 said:
The two are related. Often more formal language is also more archaic (e.g. using "whom" is expected in academic publications, but it's almost completely fallen out of use in casual, spoken English).

That is true, but "whom" is still used on contemporary, formal English. It is not archaic, like saying "carriages" for "luggage", "fetch a compass" for "turn around" or "prevent£ for "go before," as the KJV does.

jas3 said:
Only in specific contexts. In the same way, for many (most?) English speakers, ye, thee, thou, thy, thine, etc. are only used in a religious context.

Use of ye, thee, thou, thy, thine, etc. are certainly not a prerequisite of being a Christian, though.

stevevw · 2025-12-07T01:00:41-0600

Hans Blaster said:
So? We're not here to talk about how it makes you feel.

Actually it is exactly about this and about Mind states. By equivicating the Mind as just feelings and unrelaible you are whether you know it or not pushing a belief that the Mind is just feelings or some unrelaible knowledge.

That only methodlogical naturalism can give us the knowledge and it claims that the Mind is just an epiphenomena of the physical brain. Thus this is a belief claim about an epiistemic and by extention ontological truth claim. Which is a belief and not factual or science.

Hans Blaster said:
Irrelevant.

Isn't it hyocritical that you demand peer review or at least some scientific basis which I provide. Yet you just fob it off with a single word. No peer review, no science and no reasoning or explanation for why. This only supports the point I have been making in how this is blantantly biased.

Hans Blaster said:
I see. All you have for this guess (it ain't a theory or even a hypothesis) is some vague hand waving.

No its not just a guess. I gave you the reasoning and evidence.

Hans Blaster said:
I thought a miracle was the suspension of the laws of nature. This isn't the miracle section.

Whatever they are they are supernatural and beyond the naturalistic processes. I disagree with your short dismissal with no explanation. So from now on I will not give any reasoning or evidence and just use short dismissals.

Hans Blaster said:
It's not the point that it is impossible. If I want speculative physics, I'll take a trip at warp speed with the crew of the USS Enterprise.

Its not spectualtive.

Hans Blaster said:
I don't need to. That isn't the subject.

It is the subject.

Hans Blaster said:
As a physicist, I can say they should stick to physics and not pretend to be something they aren't.

It is physics.

Hans Blaster said:
See above.

It is physics.

Hans Blaster said:
Like driving down the road, they should stay in their lane.

They are in the right lane.

Hans Blaster said:
For some reason you are now responding to someone else in the same message...

Sorry not sure how that happened lol.

timewerx · 2025-12-07T01:00:30-0600

Dave... said:
See if you can get a group to do it together. Maybe a church group. Sometimes public busses have a rack on the front to place a bike. Something to maybe look into.

Nobody skates in our church. There are many cyclists but I'm not into cycling anymore. All they do is eat. That's one reason I prefer riding solo. It takes them the whole day to cover the same distance I'm doing because they make lots of stops to eat. Some members, instead of losing weight, they gain weight and I have to maintain a certain weight.

We have a skating group but I only meet them on sundays. Some of the members I know personally also meet on Friday and Saturday evenings but I don't go out at night.

Nithavela · 2025-12-07T00:57:58-0600

Factotum said:
What I feel is saddest?
Is if we hate our nation and/or the US President so much... to whereas we vehemently protect Terrorists' desire to traffick that which factually exterminate vulnerable USA citizens and residents without regard for human life, as if USA humans are vermin.

So we've gone from narco-terrorists to just pure terrorists, hmm?

If one is serious about human rights, one protects the rights of every human.

Of course it is a common trope that we can't spare a single ounce of compassion, or even basic decency, for "them" when we haven't fully taken care of "us".

Yet we never seem to get around to actually helping "ourselves". We are far too busy stomping on "them".

Factotum · 2025-12-07T00:55:42-0600

Nithavela said:
still people... They are not vermin you are free to exterminate without regard for human rights.

What I feel is saddest?
Is if we hate our nation and/or the US President so much... to whereas we vehemently protect Terrorists' desire to traffick that which factually exterminate vulnerable USA citizens and residents without regard for human life, as if USA humans are vermin.

7thKeeper · 2025-12-07T00:54:51-0600

Desk trauma said:
Nurgle approves.

7thKeeper · 2025-12-07T00:53:03-0600

Nithavela said:
I seriously doubt that even if you include drug deaths caused by people willingly getting into a drug habit and buying the drugs, you get to more than 200.000 deaths caused by "these cartels" every year.

And besides, they don't actually care about the drug deaths. Everyone was suddenly very quiet when Trump pardoned a man responsible for bringing in a ton of drugs into the US. Because it's not actually about the drugs.

7thKeeper · 2025-12-07T00:51:14-0600

Oompa Loompa said:
Cartel drug smugglers are not uniformed combatants deserving of special rights and privileges. Especially after they rape the illegal immigrants the left loves so much before making them sex slaves to pay off their debts. Comparing these monsters to Japanese pilots is an insult to Imperial Japan. Pirates can be shot on sight, so why not drug smugglers?

And they aren't given any. There's no "special rights" in the UCMJ, just rights and rules regarding this sort of situations.
The people killed haven't been shown to be traffickers, no evidence has been given, just claims that they are and "Trust me, bro". And you aren't going to give any either, you will just ignore this or post a link to an article that gives no evidence either, just a statement that they are. Which isn't evidence.
And the British saved the survivors of Bismarck from the sea as well as they could.

And for that last statement, any evidence that this is so? And I mean purely on sight, like while they are walking down the street and not actively engaging pirating with force being used. Because you're describing very different situations and trying to equite them. Are you going to be walking around the streets of US and gunning down drug dealers/smugglers while doing so? Apparently you seem to think you can. And now let's watch you ignore the rest of the post in any possible replies and just concentrate on this for moral outrage.

Nithavela · 2025-12-07T00:41:11-0600

Oompa Loompa said:
Those are rookie numbers compared to the rape and deaths caused by these cartels every year.

I seriously doubt that even if you include drug deaths caused by people willingly getting into a drug habit and buying the drugs, you get to more than 200.000 deaths caused by "these cartels" every year.

stevevw · 2025-12-07T00:37:40-0600

sjastro said:
Here we go again you can't stick to the same story.
So now the latest version is dolerite pounders at Aswan are not contemporary with the melting process technology???

Stop trying to put things in my head lol. I never said any of this and your are creating strawmen. Its not an either/or answer. We are trying to work it all out.

All we can do is gather data to get a better understanding. I am not saying the marks are from melting stone or any particular method. Only that the studies done show it was not from small dolerite pounders. Along with the analysis of the patterns in the mark showing a different and more uniform method.

As though the granite was scooped or dug out with a uniform method that was similar to the shape of the scoops. Along with other evidence showing the impracticality of using pounders in tight situations where its impossible.

sjastro said:
Where is the support by showing evidence of vitrification on the unfinished obelisk, instead you post images that have nothing to with the unfinished obelisk let alone vitrification.

Like I said this is not a one size fits all kind of determination. There may be a number of methods employed over 1,000s of years. Knowledge comes and goes and changes.

It may be that the scoops in stone come from a different method to thermal treatment. Look at the scoops in stone throughout the world. There are many that show no vitrification. Yet they show softened or weakened stone.

It may some way the structure of the granite was weakened and it was not melted but rather then material was changed at the molecular level. Such as with sonic cutting which weakens the crystals within the stone.

But the point is I am only guessing at the method. All we can do is look at the data which definitely shows the marks of a different method to dolerite pounders and nore like the stone has been scooped out as though the stone was compromised in some way.

sjastro said:
For example the image of "melted stairs" of the temple of Hathor is wrong on many counts.

Firstly the steps are not made out of granite but limestone which does not not undergo vitrification but chemical decomposition of the calcium carbonate to lime. This is basic high school chemistry.

If its basic highschool stuff then the ancient Egyptians knew about this. We should expect that many of their works will contain softened or melted limestone. Making it easier to work with. Including the building works containing limestone.

But then we also have examples of basalt and granite melted. What do you say about these.

sjastro said:
Secondly the temple and stairs were constructed during the Late Period thousands of years after your invisible technology supposedly disappeared.

No this is the point. Knowledge can come and go. The important thing is they were still living within the same immersion of direct conscious experiences of nature. Which enabled them to discover chemistry and physics. How nature worked and how it could change the physical world.

sjastro said:
Thirdly since the stairs are made from limestone which is vulnerable to a process known as haloclasty where salt crystallizes in cracks and pores which breaks down the limestone. This in combination with limestone being of low hardness and wear resistance results in erosion from centuries of people walking on the stairs giving the melted appearance look.
Limestone outcrops which degrade due to haloclasty but subject to wind and water erosion instead can also exhibit a melted look.

I want to know why you specifically choose this example and avoided the others. None of what you have said negates the facts and reality that we have examples of softened and melted stones around the world. Showing there was advanced knowledge in how to mess around with the material structures of rocks.

sjastro said:
Fourthly vitrification can only be confirmed in the laboratory to precisely characterize the structural change from crystalline to an amorphous glass state at the atomic level.

• X-ray diffraction (XRD)
• Sharp peaks = crystalline; broad diffuse humps = amorphous (vitrified).

• Scanning electron microscopy (SEM)
• Reveals surface morphology: smooth glassy vs. granular crystalline.

• Transmission electron microscopy (TEM)
• Atomic-scale imaging of amorphous vs. ordered lattice structures.

• Differential scanning calorimetry (DSC)
• Measures glass transition temperature (Tg) to confirm vitrification.

• Spectroscopy (Raman, FTIR)
• Detects changes in bonding and molecular structure after vitrification

As usual your images are next to useless they do not show vitrified or melted rocks, it is another example of pareidolia where you see things that are not there.

As usual you skip over the evidence and ignore most of it.

durangodawood · 2025-12-07T00:28:52-0600

Nithavela said:
Yeah, that was more an allied thing.

In a sense, not much has changed, hmm?

I would not have assumed killing the shipwrecked was either allied habit or policy either.

Oompa Loompa · 2025-12-07T00:26:54-0600

Nithavela said:
Lol

Nanjing Massacre - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

An insult because they don't rape enough people I assume.

Those are rookie numbers compared to the rape and deaths caused by these cartels every year.

durangodawood · 2025-12-07T00:19:14-0600

Servus said:
It adresses all of the feigned moral outrage taking place.

Wow. Instead of examining the morality of the topic at hand, you have finger wagged at an anonymous "they", accusing "them" of a character deficiency, This is just pot stirring that adds zero to our understanding of the event we're here to discuss.

Rvmb · 2025-12-07T00:17:26-0600

Tuur said:
Consider the following:

Approximately 71% of the Earth's surface is water.
Of that, approximately 2.5% is fresh.
Of fresh water, very little is carbonated to the point where it releases CO2 when shaken.

Therefore, in terms of carbonated water, the Earth is most definitely flat.

Lake Baikal is flat & frozen flat many months of the years (80kmX600km)
If you sat on the edge of the lake with a 100km range powerful tripod telescope approx 1 meter above the ice, how far away on the flat ice would I have to be before you could no longer see me ?

Nithavela · 2025-12-07T00:15:20-0600

durangodawood said:
I would not have assumed killing the shipwrecked was either German habit or policy back then.

Yeah, that was more an allied thing.

In a sense, not much has changed, hmm?

durangodawood · 2025-12-07T00:10:05-0600

Nithavela said:
Depending on the time that happened, they probably had standing orders not to help shipwrecked people because the allies kept attacking them during their rescue attempts. The german navy never had a habit of killing shipwrecked people.

Laconia incident - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I would not have assumed killing the shipwrecked was either German habit or policy back then.

Christsfreeservant · 2025-12-07T00:07:21-0600

“I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd. For this reason the Father loves Me, because I lay down My life so that I may take it again. No one has taken it away from Me, but I lay it down on My own initiative. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This commandment I received from My Father.” (John 10:16-18 NASB1995)

When Jesus spoke these words, his sheep (his followers) were primarily the Jews who had believed in him to be their Lord and Savior. So, the “other sheep” he was speaking of were the Gentiles who were soon to be included in the family of God, by faith in Jesus Christ, because of Jesus’ sacrifice on that cross for the sins of the world. And Jew and Gentile, by faith in Jesus Christ, were to become one people of God, no longer divided by Jew and Gentile, but now all one family, with Jesus Christ as their only shepherd.

For Jesus Christ made both groups into one and broke down the barrier of the dividing wall that stood between them, and he made the two (Jew and Gentile) into “one new man,” that he might reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross. For through Christ we both (Jew and Gentile) have access in one Spirit to the Father so that non-Jews who believe in Jesus Christ are now fellow citizens with the Jewish saints of God who have trusted in Jesus Christ to be their Lord, both of whom are now of God’s household.

For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, and not all who are physical descendants of Abraham are the children of Abraham. For it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but it is the children of the promise who are counted as offspring. So, if you belong to God, by biblical faith in Jesus Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise, because Jesus Christ is the seed of Abraham, and God’s promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed (Galatians 3:16).

So, there is no more division between Jew and Gentile. We are all one people, one holy nation, by genuine faith in Jesus Christ. And all who deny that Jesus is the Christ are not of God, but they are antichrist, denying both the Father and the Son (Jesus Christ). So physical Jerusalem is no longer God’s holy city because she is of Hagar, the slave woman, and not of Sarah, the free woman. But spiritual Jerusalem, which is not a physical place, is the family of God by faith in Jesus Christ. We are God’s holy city, his people.

[Genesis 17:7-9; Genesis 18:19; Matthew 5:13-16; John 8:18-19,38-47; Romans 2:28-29; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; Romans 9:4-8,25-28; Romans 11:1-36; 1 Corinthians 3:16-17; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 3:16,26-29; Galatians 4:22-31; Ephesians 2:11-22; Ephesians 3:1-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-16; Hebrews 8:6-13; 1 Peter 2:9-10,24; 1 John 2:22; Jude 1:5; Revelation 2:9; Revelation 3:9]

But we are not included in God’s family merely by verbal professions of faith in Jesus Christ. So here is what it means to be of faith in Jesus Christ:

Jesus Christ taught that to come to him we must deny self, take up our cross daily (die daily to sin), and follow (obey) him. For if we hold on to living in sin and for self, we will lose our lives for eternity. But if we deny self, die daily to sin, by the Spirit, and we walk in obedience to our Lord and to his commands, in his power, then we have eternal life with God. For not everyone who calls him “Lord” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one DOING (obeying) the will of God (see Luke 9:23-26; Matthew 7:21-23).

For by God-gifted faith in Jesus Christ, which is not of our own doing, we are crucified with Christ in death to sin and raised with Christ to walk in newness of life in him, no longer to live as slaves to sin but as slaves to righteousness in walks of obedience to God’s commands. We are no longer to permit sin to reign in our mortal bodies to make us obey its desires. For if sin is what we obey, it results in death. But if obedience to God is what we obey, it results in sanctification, and its end is eternal life with God (see Romans 6:1-23).

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

Seek the Lord

Based off Isaiah 55
An Original Work / July 20, 2012
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love
Musical Instrumentation by Mark Bradley

“Come to Me all you who thirst; come to waters.
Listen to Me, and eat what’s good today,
And your soul will delight in richest of fare.
Give ear to Me, and you will live.
I have made an eternal covenant with you.
Wash in the blood of the Lamb.”

Seek the Lord while He may be found; call on Him.
Let the wicked forsake his way, in truth.
Let him turn to the Lord, and he will receive mercy.
Freely, God pardons him.
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways My ways,”
declares the Lord, our God.

“My word that goes out of My mouth is truthful.
It will not return to Me unfulfilled.
My word will accomplish all that I desire,
And achieve the goal I intend.
You will go in joy and be led forth in peace.
The mountains will burst into song… before you,
And all of the trees clap their hands.”

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One Flock with One Shepherd
An Original Work / December 7, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Paidiske · 2025-12-07T00:00:25-0600

Sigh. How is it the second Sunday of Advent already?

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