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Apelles 2
- By JohnEmmett
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What happens if someone dies before they became a believer, is it their fault?
- By RandyPNW
- General Theology
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My position isn't popular, but when has that stopped me from trying to help?
I believe God has chosen, up front, who He wants in His kingdom. Those He has chosen will always choose for Him because it's in their nature to want Him. It really doesn't matter if we die before we accept Christ. It is already established who would, if given the chance, accept the Lord. The advantage of living a full life is that it gives an opportunity for God to express the full range of redemptive activities in a person's life. If that life is cut short, God will not dock them for failing to express their full potential.
Those who aren't chosen are products of evil angels and evil men who make use of God's creation to produce human agents who are repelled by God. They naturally assume the nature of the ones who have influenced their coming into existence. According to Jesus, they are "planted by the enemy."
I do believe in free choice, but I also believe God has made His own choice, as well. And He never intended to produce rebels--just those He calls His children. Those He has chosen will be able to live with Him in paradise. Those who he has not chosen will be judged based on their deeds, some suffering many stripes and some suffering only few stripes.
The problem with not being chosen is that there is a natural propensity to reject Christ. And the result is Outer Darkness, which may be a more severe or a much milder punishment.
I know we have all heard that Hell is hideous and gruesome. But I believe we are told that the fire is simply to remove all sinners from God's paradise on earth--not to torture people. The suffering is simply the fact of being removed from Paradise conditions, along with the remorse of having done wrong.
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Supreme Court rejects Kim Davis’ request to reconsider landmark gay marriage ruling
- By Delvianna
- Current News & Events (Articles Required)
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But not homosexuality? Seems like a huge omission, assuming you have it right. You do know that the sin exposed in Sodom was sexual assault, not homosexuality, right?
Yep. Sexual assault. Which is what seems to have God convinced to destroy them.
Genesis 19:6 Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him 7 and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. 8 Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.”
9 “Get out of our way,” they replied. “This fellow came here as a foreigner, and now he wants to play the judge! We’ll treat you worse than them.” They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break down the door.
Bible Gateway passage: Genesis 19 - New International Version
Sodom and Gomorrah Destroyed - The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. “My lords,” he said, “please turn aside to your servant’s house. You can wash your...www.biblegateway.com
I'm pretty sure that Lot's offer to the aspiring rapists was not something Jesus would have approved.
Some bible verses that tell what sins Sodom had:
What is sexual immorality and "strange flesh"? Homosexuality. So sexual assault wasn't their only sin. They had tons and homosexuality was also 1 of them but to attribute sexual assault as the only sin that convinced God makes no sense when others were also present like the proof I gave of homosexuality.
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