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Jordan says ICE agents ‘doing the Lord’s work’

You think conservatism is just common sense, and liberals don't have it? How unfortunate to think this way.

Unfortunately, this is the perception that contributes to polarization in America today. Each side believes it possesses all the common sense and facts, while considering the other side delusional. Progress will be limited until we acknowledge that both liberals and conservatives possess common sense, and that each ideology aims to improve America and the world.

The remainder of your comments regarding border security are not accurate. It is true that during the Biden administration, more undocumented immigrants have crossed the southern border compared to his predecessor. However, attributing sole responsibility to President Biden lacks factual basis and does not adequately consider the complexity of the issue.

For over six decades, the United States has faced challenges related to migration from the south and individuals overstaying their legal status. This was a significant factor leading President Reagan to grant amnesty to nearly three million undocumented immigrants. Subsequent administrations, including those of Presidents Bush, and Obama, pursued comprehensive immigration reforms to address the ongoing issue.

Nearly 2 million undocumented immigrants crossed the US southern border during President Trump’s first term.

Your post suggests this issue only emerged during the last four years under the Biden administration, as if it hasn’t happened before in American history.

One principle of conservatism is accurately assessing facts. It is important to begin with factual understanding before making claims about common sense.
Forcing transgender on our children is more than divisive, it is control over our lives. For sure liberals are in fact divisive and control freaks.
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Another look at the moon landing.

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Astronauts, like most scientists, accept that the Earth is approximately 4.54 billion years old based on extensive geological and astronomical evidence. This age is supported by methods such as radiometric dating of rocks and meteorites, which provide a consistent timeline for the formation of the Earth and the solar system. Wikipedia The Planetary Society

Age of the Earth According to Science​

Scientific Consensus​

Astronauts, like many scientists, accept that the Earth is approximately 4.54 billion years old. This estimate is based on extensive research, including radiometric age-dating of meteorites and lunar samples. These methods provide a reliable framework for understanding the age of our planet and the solar system.

Formation of the Earth​

The Earth formed from a rotating disk of gas and dust around the young Sun about 4.6 billion years ago. This process involved the accumulation of material through collisions and gravitational attraction, leading to the formation of the planet as we know it today.

Comparison with Young Earth Creationism​

In contrast, some belief systems, such as Young Earth Creationism, assert that the Earth is only 6,000 to 10,000 years old. This view is based on literal interpretations of religious texts, particularly the Bible. However, this perspective contradicts established scientific evidence and is not supported by the broader scientific community.

Conclusion​

The overwhelming scientific evidence supports the view that the Earth is billions of years old, a belief shared by astronauts and scientists alike. This understanding is crucial for comprehending Earth's history, geological processes, and the evolution of life.
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Mississippi School Homecoming Celebrations Turn Deadly as 8 People are Killed 20 Injured in Separate Shootings

You're right, many criminals in Mississippi don't buy their guns in stores; neither do many criminals in California. But Mississippi’s high gun violence rate (29.4 per 100,000) compared to California's (8 per 100,000) shows that comprehensive gun laws do work. California's gun violence rate would be even lower if it didn't share a border with states with weaker gun laws. Most guns used by criminals in California come from Arizona, which, like Mississippi, has some of the weakest gun laws in the country. This is why strong gun laws at the federal level are needed. If every state was required by federal law to have the same gun laws California has, the number of gun deaths and incidents of gun violence nationwide would fall significantly.
Go ask Grok. I knew that in my state "gun crime" decreased since we implemented constitutional carry. Turns out, it's decreased in every state which has implemented constitutional carry.
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Who then can be saved?

According to Jesus owns words He said this:

Mat 2:28 Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath.”

Jesus is the Creator, not the creation. Jesus never turned into the 4th commandment so we do not need to keep it. The Sabbath is something man does Isa 56:2

Are you claiming that the apostles who kept every Sabbath decades after the Cross negated Jesus sacrifice? Acts 13:42 Acts 13:44 Acts 15:21 Acts 18:4

Jesus who told His faithful to pray 40 years after the Cross for their flight not be on the Sabbath day, Mat 24:20 negated His own Sacrifice?

The Sabbath is personally claimed by Him, reaffirmed repeatedly, and tied to His identity as both Creator Exo 20:11 Eze 20:20 and Sanctifier. Eze 20:12

Sorry, this argument is nonsensical.
Matthew 11:28-30
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Who then can be saved?

I choose Him everyday. He's the best thing going and I thank Him for showing me something trully, ineffably Good and worthy of my love and adoration in this otherwise god-forsaken hopeless world. Sometimes I stray, however, fool that I am, proving that I'm still capable of a compromised loyalty, distracted and drawn to lesser, created things now and then over Him; sometimes I sin, IOW, not yet perfected in the love that He gives me.
If you have to choose him every day, then you are not putting your trust in Him. You are trusting to your own works.
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‘If we ever had a leak of this chat we would be cooked’: 7 months of shocking private messages among rising GOP leaders

Yada yada free speech, right? Right? I mean, leftists can celebrate a man's murder, talk about wanting kids dead because their parents are conservative, and the left back their own. But oh, but NOW it's terrible and we should do something about this kind of thing. No one cares about jokes anymore, unless it's a Republican making them. Utter hypocrisy.
Yep. It seems they were joking. More likely mocking the histrionics of the left.
And these are from years long posts. Tasteless, yes, But before alot of violence made things more serious. But we will see if there is anything to it. A couple of these no longer work there. That is just a few tid bits I could gather.
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Trump's reputation will age like fine wine

Tell that to James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson.

I predict that in 30 years, the large majority of Americans will look back at the Trump years with great embarrassment. This is regardless of whatever accomplishments he might make.
I predict that in 30 years the large majority of Americans will look back on the Trump years with great admiration.
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Who is on the Lords Side?

He who is not with Me, is against Me….. Matthew 12:30

But, all the nations and people groups currently occupying the Holy Land, are not with Jesus. Only a very small percentage of individual Christian people are there. Isaiah 29:1-4 describes how a small Jewish Christian group will survive.
The Jewish State of Israel continues in its rejection of Jesus and all the Muslim entities worship Allah, the satanic moon god, represented by the crescent symbol.

Matthew 12:26 If it is Satan who fights Satan, he is divided against himself - how can his kingdom stand?

Todays kind of situation is nothing new; the Sunni sect of Islam hates the Shi-ite sect and even Christian peoples fight each other. The original example is when the Northern ten tribes of the House of Israel opposed the Jewish House of Judah; Israel is in rebellion against Judah unto this day. 1 Kings 12:19

God is in control and He allowed the Jewish State of Israel to be established by a group of Zionist atheists under communistic principles. Most do not acknowledge their Creator God and they arrogantly rely on their own strength. The criteria for citizenship is not ethnicity, but mainly the practice of Judaism.

The reason God has tolerated their existence is that the Jews are the symbolic face of ancient Israel, while God, thru the Holy Spirit, works with the real Israelites of God - those grafted into the olive tree, Jew and Gentile. It is the faithful Christian peoples who display the fruit of the Spirit. Galatians 5:22-25, Matthew 21:43

Many Bible Prophesies say that the Lord will clear and cleanse the Holy Land and will then gather His peoples to live there. It is our destiny and great privilege to be alive at this pivotal point in human history.
Be ready to stand firm in your faith and trust the Lord, as we pass through all that must take place until the glorious Return of Jesus as Lord of Lords and King of Kings.

Another look at the moon landing.

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Science claims are faith base, people who believe what science states (like going to the moon, etc..). These claims are believed by a person having faith in people, institutions and Governments and what they have claimed to have done or doing.
Nonsense. The scientific method leads to repeatable and verifiable data. Conspiracy theories on the other hand leads to absurdity.
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Anxiety about hell and eternal torture

Lately I’ve really been struggling with anxiety and OCD, especially around intrusive fears about hell. It’s been taking over my thoughts and making it hard to get through the day. Sometimes I get stuck worrying about people I care about possibly “going there,” and other times I spiral into fear about myself.

Whenever I come across posts that talk about eternal torture or damnation, it makes everything worse — it triggers the anxiety and sends me into a loop I can’t easily escape. I know these thoughts don’t reflect who I am or what I truly believe, but they still feel so real in the moment.
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If you have believed in Jesus for God's free gift of Eternal Life. Then you should have absolute no fears as John states.

“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.


That is not a you may, but a Most assuredly, I say to you,
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Another look at the moon landing.

Well Hentenza as me has to remind you. Even with less radiation and the quickest route you’re still going into a sea of radiation with the Van Ellen belt . And metal is something that sends radiation berserk . And they even have certian metal makeups within their space suit including their space helmet. Your stats say from the unmanned space craft only 13 rads others would disagree. Other scientists say anywhere from 600 rads to 1100 rads there also be the solar flares. You might like to watch on U tube . ( Radiation reloaded the complete series ) it goes into some on the future Artemis future flights you mentioned and there also be a series of short filmed called ( radioactive anomaly .) View attachment 371586 As to the moon rocks that would depend if we ever made to the moon. Would you believe they claim the moon rocks to be over 4 billion years .old. And considering that creation only goes back some 7000 yrs. I do wonder if these people have ever counted 4 billion years ?
Well, none of the astronauts that went to the moon developed illnesses consistent with radiation exposure nor any one of them suffered an early death because of it. The end total radiation that were on their skin ranged from .18 to 1.14 rads which is no different than on earth. The shielding, speed, and trajectory worked flawlessly. If the “other” scientist that you spoke off were correct then the astronauts would have developed cancers and other radiation related illnesses. So the proof is the fact that none of them developed radiation exposure illnesses.
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The Schumer Shutdown

Incorrect -

The current continuing resolution (CR) offered in Congress is based on the old budget levels from FY25, not a new budget. Here's the breakdown:

  • CR Timeline: The House Appropriations Committee released the Continuing Appropriations and Extensions Act, 2026, which funds the government through November 21, 2025.
  • Budget Basis: The CR continues funding at FY25 levels, as Congress has not passed any of the twelve FY26 appropriations bills. Only a few have cleared either chamber, and none have reached the President.
That isn't fantasy in my mind - that is established fact.
I'm confused - what does the IRS mean when they say this?

The One, Big, Beautiful Bill has a significant effect on federal taxes, credits and deductions. It was signed into law on July 4, 2025, as Public Law 119-21.​
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Another look at the moon landing.

It isn't an issue. I've been exposed to a lot more radiation with all the x-rays and scans I've had done than the astronauts were in those few hours. I am now in my 60's and still in pretty decent health. No cancers or extra appendages growing anywhere.
Ok Prodromos we make you a prime candidate for the next flight on the Artemis ‍: )
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Trump's reputation will age like fine wine

Time often smooths rough edges. Political movements tend to turn polarizing leaders into symbols — simplified and idealized.
People will remember “he spoke for ordinary Americans” more than “he tweeted insults at 3 a.m.”
Populism will remain strong globally, Trump will come to represent the origin point of a major political realignment rather than just a single administration.
Tell that to James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson.

I predict that in 30 years, the large majority of Americans will look back at the Trump years with great embarrassment. This is regardless of whatever accomplishments he might make.
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