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More AI confessions regarding evolutionist consensus "science" over and above objective science. This one regarding dinosaur soft tissues.

Hvizsgyak said:

I agree with you that men drifted away from guiding their young ones through life and the brunt of it fell on mothers. The young ones need to be guided by both of the parents.

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Early life is always mostly on the mothers; by the teen years, most of the raising of boys should be turned over to fathers, as well as a significant proportion of the raising of girls.

It's not all on the fathers that that doesn't happen. My wife explicitly told me to step away from our daughter. And now my daughter blames me for having been "distant."

Always in His Presence said:

If you are worried about health care - Schumer should stop voting to keep the government closed so congress can deal with the issue - just like they had planned to.

Here's the issue:

Congress passed a bill the Democrats didn't like -
Chuck Schumer sees the opportunity to get back what he lost on the bill
Chuck Schumer get a CR that is IDENTICAL to the one he publicly supported and voted for just 6 months ago
Chuck Schumer wants to negotiate ADDING 1.5 trillion dollars in spending to an already bloated budget.

And he finds his talking point - and people believe him.

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LOL, the GOP are going to deal with healthcare. What? That concept of a plan that Trump has where he promised it will be not only better, but cheaper. When the GOP says they are going to deal with healthcare, it means they are going to either do what the lobbyists want and for example kill the mechanism for cheaper prescriptions, or just defund it and leave Americans stranded. Or both, like what is happening now.

Yarddog said:

They do.

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Really, do they teach, preach them repentance for breaking our laws?

fhansen said:

Or if you do don’t choose God, having been made into an elected automaton, you can glory in your election, I guess, while telling your friends that you’re luckier than they are because God chose you for Himself and eternal paradise, while your poor unbelieving friends He chose for suffering in the lake of, fire for all eternity.

Or, knowing of the vital importance of this choice you may, instead, desire and seek the right choice from and for your friends, as Paul did,

“We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God. God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.” 2 Cor 5:20

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Yes, we all know that you can’t abide by the Doctrines of Grace. Thanks for reaffirming your position.

Job 33:6 said:

That's what the Bible says. The earth was formless and void. This is not mans word, it is God's word.

Genesis 1:2 KJV
[2] And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

I'm sure that you've read this passage before.


I would say that they are. For example, if you look at Mars. Do you see any life there? It is empty or bohu. Any cities or buildings or anything of any worth? It is tohu, formless.

In Genesis on days 4,5, and 6, God is filling the earth with life so that it is no longer bohu, or empty.

And in days 1,2, and 3 God is organizing, separating, and ordering the cosmos. Separating waters from waters, gathering waters, etc. bringing form to that which was formless.

So that by the end of Genesis it says:

Genesis 2:1 KJV
[1] Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

Genesis 2:1 NRSV
[1] Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all their multitude.

Genesis 2:1 CEB
[1] The heavens and the earth and all who live in them were completed.

The heavens and the earth were finished (tohu).
And all the host/array/life of them (bohu).

Bohu is about life, hosts, array or multitudes. It's not about physical matter. As the Bible explains.

The earth was empty, like a desert. No life. Not empty in the sense as though there were no matter present. But empty in meaning and value and purpose and life.
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It is bohu, or empty. There is nothing there.

And tohu, formless. No structure, no order, no meaning or purpose. It is nothing. Desolation. Emptiness. Wasteland.

These are common translations of the Hebrew word tohu throughout the Bible.

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form·less
1 : having no regular form or shape


2 : lacking order or arrangement


3 : having no physical existence

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The planets are globe shaped, spherical, round. They have shape, and substance, as your picture above is filled with sand, so they are composed of many different materials, liquids, and gasses.

Strong's Hebrew Lexicon Search Results​

Search results for "8414":
8414 tohuw to'-hoo from an unused root meaning to lie waste; a desolation (of surface), i.e. desert; figuratively, a worthless thing; adverbially, in vain:--confusion, empty place, without form, nothing, (thing of) nought, vain, vanity, waste, wilderness.

Search results for "922":
922 bohuw bo'-hoo from an unused root (meaning to be empty); a vacuity, i.e. (superficially) an undistinguishable ruin:--emptiness, void.

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Condensed Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew Lexicon or Thayer's Greek Lexicon​

8414

1. formlessness, confusion, unreality, emptiness
   1. formlessness (of primeval earth)
      1. nothingness, empty space
   2. that which is empty or unreal (of idols) (fig)
   3. wasteland, wilderness (of solitary places)
   4. place of chaos
   5. vanity

922

1. emptiness, void, waste

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Make what you wish of course, from the above, as you choose to understand it. As I and others do as well, as it is to vague for any of us to prove to mean what we may each define or envision it as. In any case, scripture and God declare that He changed it from whatever exactly it was then, into a world with far more abundant and vibrant than it is at this day, in six days. Filled with much larger creatures, plants, and variety than we see today.

Akita Suggagaki said:

I am glad you agree that words mean something. So when Trump uses words like “animals” and “vermin” you do not approve.

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That is for criminals. Yes, I approve of calling slave, sex, drug traffickers, and rapists and murderers as such.

Tuur said:

More to the point, will Democrats now turn on Dominion?

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Hang on a moment. What are the facts on the ground? What did Rupert Murdoch actually say about the 2020 election? In court under oath?

Why did he pay over a billion dollars (in Australian dollars) to cut that whole case short? It was a settlement. It could have been a lot worse by the end of the trial!

Tuur said:

Will we see now see forums dominated by Democrats complaining about the machines?

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Well this thing called reality, and this thing called the MAGA universe.

In reality climate change is a thing, vaccines are a thing, surgical masks reduce viral spread because the water droplets are actually trapped within the mask even if the virus is tiny, and a billion other sites things that MAGA doesn't want to think about.

In reality Donald Trump actually has narcissistic personality disorder, as diagnosed by over 230 mental health experts that have analysed hundreds and hundreds of hours of footage over decades.

So if there is enough evidence that Republicans have bought dominion voting machines and actually corrupted them, then maybe yes in a few years we will see evidence of election tampering by Republicans.

Tuur said:

Will they now question the results of any election where polling is done with Dominion machines?

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History doesn't repeat but it rhymes.

In one case there's a fake accusation by the father of lies. In another case? The interesting thing on the ground is that Republicans now own the systems. Did the democrats own them when Trump told his big lie and whined and whined and whined and whined and whined until there was an insurrection at the capital?

fhansen said:

Your point was that we can know with absolute certainty that we're saved, and that's what I've been responding to.

"I want to know Christ—yes, to know the power of his resurrection and participation in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, and so, somehow, attaining to the resurrection from the dead.

Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already arrived at my goal, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. Brothers and sisters, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus." Phil 3:10-14

No, we do them because of the love He's placed into our hearts. And, again, we can fail to do them, we can fail to love. The power is there, but we may or may not remain there, with Him.

No doubt, although Paul's conversion was more dramatic than most. But even he could've failed. Quite unlikely, I'm sure, but, again, God is not into creating automatons- or He never would've let man fall to begin with. There's a reason for our freedom, and its a beautiful reason, because only with it can we become lovers as God loves, even as that love is a gift of grace to begin with at the same time. And that love, as we value it, continue to value it, grow in valuing it, then grows in us as we express it, with all kinds of good fruit resulting.

Just depends on how far and persistently we stray. If we begin sinning like the devil while calling ourselves a child of God, or abusing His mercy by using His forgiveness as a license to remain in sin. then we're mocking Him and the sacrifice of His Son. There's a line....that's all-and your freedom to cross it remains throughout your life, with challenges and tests and temptations that can be quite powerful. In any case the change, based on our relationship with Him as it is, must be real: we must love. Here's an example of the need to reciprocate with the love that's been shown us:

For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins. Matt 6:14-15

Well...yes, that's quite close to what I've been saying.

I've been through all that-I was AOG for several years. It was usually the "Are you saved?" or "Do you know you're saved"? crowd that I ended up unimpressed with, generally speaking. Now, all conversion stories in themselves usually have merit and are intertesting, informative, and helpful. But they're sometimes filtered through the lens of a particular theology that adds its own slant to things.

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I’m not sure from your response(s) that you understand that there is a physical change in you when God gives you a new heart and makes you his own. It is a change that can’t be undone by us. He is sovereign over salvation. It is HIS salvation. He chooses, He changes, He gives us what we need to succeed. You don’t get to decide if you want it or not. There may be circumstances that you can voluntarily walk away from, but you are not unsaved because of it. It may be severe enough that God will correct you in some way, sometimes even by death, but you cannot make yourself unsaved. That’s what perseverance of the saints means.

I know there are instances where people thought they were saved because they might have had an emotional response to something, but that doesn’t save you, and the proof would be if you could walk away from it. If you can, then it wasn’t salvation, because Christ said that He would not lose even one whom the Father gives him to be saved.

And the issue you had with the “Are you saved?” crowd (whatever that means other than that all people have shortcomings) is just proof that instead of putting your faith in fallible men you should only put your faith in God.

Even the Orthodox who I believe deny the immaculate conception due to disagreements with doctrine on original sin, recognize that the term Kecharitomene means Mary has been kept free from sin


Mary represents and is a demonstration of everything God can do for us if we submit to His word. She is the first to obey God and possesses the fullness of His grace


This point is hammered home in Luke 11, which happens to be our friend Bob Ryan’s favorite verse to contradict the role of Mary. Jesus tells us not to worship her person and think that life flows from her body, He says that blessing comes from hearing the word of God and keeping it.
We are all children of Adam who succumbed and we suffer the consequences of the disobedience of Eve.
Mary is the first to obey God. She possessed the grace of God and continues to possess the grace of God, as the term Kecharitomene implies, but we are not her children by blood, yet she is our mother because she obeyed and brought forth Our Savior Jesus Christ. We did not make her, God made her and told us it would be so.

Mary says behold the handmaid of the Lord, be it done to me according to your word. Perfect virtue demonstrates perfect humility. Jesus does not insult Mary by refusing praise to her flesh, He knows she is highly exalted by her obedience instead. We can be exalted by God if we deny ourselves and humble ourselves in obedience just as Mary did first
Mary had no other biological children, yet all the redeemed are her spiritual children by obedience.
Her seed keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ
Jesus is very clear and the Catholic Church agrees that the family of God is not the biological children of Mary, but those that do the will of the Father in heaven is part of God’s family, my brother, my sister and mother. Mary being the first to obey, is the new Eve, but her children are not biological by her blood, yet spiritual by the blood of her Son, the Lord Jesus Christ

Mercy Shown said:

Many misread Paul by claiming that modern Christianity denies personal responsibility or that obeying God’s commandments is an attempt to “earn salvation.” But Scripture makes a crucial distinction between the works of the law, which cannot justify anyone (Romans 3:20; Galatians 2:16),

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The problem with this teaching, is that those who promote it don't understand or believe that Paul was teaching against the mainstream preachers of his time, the Pharisees.

I know I'm up against popular religious philosophies here. But to believe your teaching on this matter, I would have to believe that the "children of the devil" in Galatians and Acts 15, were trying to get peop0le to obey God's Commandments. And even now you will not actually discuss David's actual words in Ps. 5 and 14.

Paul addresses "Works of the Law" VS. "Faith" for the remission of Sins in Romans 3.

I will ask you this question, in hope that you might honestly engage with me on this issue. In the Old Priesthood "After the Order of Aaron", what "Works of the Law" was required before remission of sins were provided for? Please answer this question because it is central to Paul's teaching concerning the Jews, "Who had the Oracles of God".

Did Moses say, "If a man sins, he shall "Love the Lord His God". and his sins shall be forgiven? Did he say, "If a man sins, he shall Keep the 7th Day Holy, and his sins are forgiven?

Please simply answer the question concerning what "LAW" the Pharisees, who didn't believe Jesus was the Prophesied Priest, were trying to require for the "remission of sins that are past".

There is only one Truthful answer. And from there we can, from foundation of truth, continue.

Most promoters of this world's religious philosophies refuse to answer or engage, even though they know the answer. I am hopeful that you are different.

Mercy Shown said:

and the good works that are the fruit of faith (Ephesians 2:10). We are saved by grace through faith — not by works — yet true faith always produces obedience through the Spirit. To “walk as He walked” (1 John 2:6) is not self-righteousness; it’s the evidence of Christ living within us.

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Yes, and a religion which lives by or promotes judgments that are not wrought in God, commandments that are not given by God, high days that were not prescribed by God, or a religion that promotes images of God after the likeness of man, is evidence that the Spirit of Christ is not living within those who have adopted this religion. In fact, this is how John teaches me that I can know if I'm a liar, or if I truly know Him.

Paul teaches:

1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that "ye present your bodies" a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

2 And be not conformed "to this world": but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

This is why I wanted to share with others that the Posters philosophy that David and Paul is teaching of the members of the Body of Christ, those who refuge is the Lord, that "Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:."

That there was no difference between the children of disobedience, and the children of obedience. Although popular, according to all that is written., their isn't the message of Paul, Jesus the Prophets, and certainly not David. Peter understood.

1 Pet. 1: 13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; 14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:

15 But "as he which hath called you is holy", so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;

16 Because "it is written", Be ye holy; for I am holy.

I would ask you another question to see if you are willing to have honest discourse here. "Where is this written"

Mercy Shown said:

The poster’s argument confuses this distinction, creating a false dichotomy between faith and obedience. Yielding to God’s righteousness isn’t earning salvation;

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My post represented Paul's Teaching. I fully understand that your posts represent a philosophy that doesn't align itself with Paul. In the hope of true fellowship, I would post Paul's Words here for your examination and discussion.

Romans 2: 7 "To them" who "by" patient continuance in well doing "seek for" glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

Why is Paul patiently continuing in well doing here? Is he not "SEEKING SALVATION"? And shall he not, "by" patient continuance in well doing, Seeks for Glory, Honor and Immortality, find it?

This is a perfect example of the dangers of adopting the religious philosophies of this world. Where does this whole "Earn Salvation" doctrine come from?

1st. it is widely a widely taught, but insidious lie and wickedness, that the Pharisees were trying to "Earn Salvation" by obeying God's Laws. This evil teaching, is easily proved as such by simply reading EVERY WORD Jesus says about the Pharisees.

2nd. As is their custom, they isolate and twist Paul's words "And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

There is no "LAW" of God which promotes that a man should live after "his own righteousness". What these deceivers who promote this teaching, which has led many astray, won't tell you, is the truth about the "Jews Religion" that Paul used to partake of. This religion had "Full well rejected God's commandments so that they might promote for doctrines, the Commandments of men, not God. Paul tells us this.

Phil. 3: 5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;

6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, (Pharisees Law) blameless.

We know, according to the teaching of the Jesus of the bible, that the Pharisees taught for doctrines the commandments of men. That they full well rejected God's Commandments. That they claimed to truth Moses, but they didn't believe him. That they declared, "We have a Law, and by our Law, HE should die". This Law was used against others, the Prophets before Jesus, and Stephen after Jesus. They even went after Paul.

Paul even told us in Romans 10, that the Pharisees "went about establishing their own Righteousness, refusing to Submit unto the Righteousness of God. But Paul had changed, become renewed in the Spirit of his mind, and no longer walked in the "LAW" of the Pharisees, who had established their own righteousness. Now he Labored that he might be accepted of God.

9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, "which is of the law", but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

Peter warns abut men twisting Paul's words. I will ask you, and see if you will answer, "Where is it written in the Law and Prophets, even in one place, where a man, "By LAW" can establish his own righteousness?

Please show me in the Scriptures one place where Jesus or Stephen or Paul teaches that the Pharisees were walking in or promoting God's Laws. Just ONE! And if you can't, then how will you respond, by clinging onto popular religious philosophy, or by being renewed in the spirit of your mind.

"For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers."

Mercy Shown said:

it’s what genuine faith looks like. Scripture never separates grace from responsibility — “for we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ” (2 Cor 5:10). Paul’s “laboring” and “pressing toward the mark” (Phil 3:12–14) refer to sanctification, not justification.

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Yes, I agree, "Seeking Sanctification" is Good. Just "Seeking Justification" of a religion isn't "good".. But both God and His Son Jesus, told Paul, "Be ye perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect".

And since Paul teaches all men, Jew and Gentile to "Yield themselves" to God, and "become servants of God's Righteousness, and to, " by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality", maybe the Bible is right, and this world's religious system is wrong, and we who want to "Enter Life", should "SEEK" to be accepted by God, to be "Diligent" that we are found by Him without spot and Blameless.

That we should "SEEK" immortality, and "SEEK" God's Righteousness, as Jesus instructs, not from all the other voices in the world God placed us in, as is the tradition of this world, but as Paul teaches, by trusting the Holy scriptures, for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished "unto all good works".

Not to "Earn" salvation, but to "Find it".

Mercy Shown said:

The gospel is simple: salvation is God’s gift, but obedience is its natural outcome. True righteousness is not our work for God, but God’s work in us.

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If this were true, this entire world's religious system would be Glorifying God, and Living by His Every Word, as Jesus instructs. If this were true there would be no internal battle "against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

If this is true, there would be no Labor, no pressing toward sinless perfection and no striving against sin.

It sounds really great, and truly a seductive religious philosophy and truly "many" who call Jesus Lord, Lord have adopted it. Paul it's not the Gospel of Christ that Israel rejected, but the the Church of God in Acts 2 didn't.

ralliann said:

It is not callous nor dehumanizing. It is an accurate term. It is not me applying wrong ideas to the terms. Liberals do this sort of thing all the time. Words mean things.

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I am glad you agree that words mean something. So when Trump uses words like “animals” and “vermin” you do not approve.

Tuur said:

The article sounds like "But who will pick our cotton?" circa 1860.

The conceit is that all migrant labor is illegal. That's not the case. There's such a thing as work visas, and many non-US migrant workers have them. Casual observation is that there are plenty. How many? Enough to set out a 100+ acre field with watermelons in less than a day. Enough that same field had migrant labor harvesting it until the only melons left were culls. Enough that I've seen no noticeable impact in local stores and restaurants. Have seen zero impact in fields. Have heard zero complaints from farmers.

That doesn't fit the narrative, and I fully expect to be told that what I observe is wrong.

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It seems you didn't read the referenced document.
"that immediate reform to the H-2A program's minimum wage policy, or the AEWRs, is necessary to avoid imminent widespread disruption across the U.S. agricultural sector."

The raqia is the visible sky over the earth.

And God called the "raqia" Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day.

Aristarkos said:

I didn't leave out anything but apparently you do, vs 28 says: "... but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.", that's why Cornelius and the gentiles with him received holy spirit.

Aristarkos

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AND anyone that reads ACTS 10:28 will see that is NOT WHAT. . Acts 10:28 say

AAND HERE IS WHAT Acts 10:28. really says what the HOLY SPIRIT. had Luke write !!

And he declared to them. , you understand how UNLAWFUL it is for a Jewish man to join HIMSELF. or to. come near a

foreigner and God. showed me to call no man common. or unclean .

AND. THIS WHY CORNELIUS and anyone that checks Acts 10:28. will see I have written what Acts 10:28 says

and you and have left me AGOG again. ??

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Melania

Winston Churchill: "United wishes and good will cannot overcome brute facts," Churchill wrote in his War Memoirs. "Truth is incontrovertible. Panic may resent it. Ignorance may deride it. Malice may distort it. But there it is."

Charlie put himself out there for people to prove him wrong. It has yet to happen. I think that speaks volumes.

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You have not answered the question. The point has not been made that scripture is the sole rule of faith.
You said it yourself. “I vetted every point.”
So is scripture only scripture if it has been “vetted” by you? How do you deal with disagreements with your vetting, as there are many?
What is the standard that you use?

Does someone that disagrees with your interpretation have an evil spirit? How do you know that you do not have an evil spirit?

Many claim sola scriptura, yet there is no consistent sola scriptura faith. How can we know truth?
If you say the Holy Spirit leads you into truth, the others say the same thing. Is there Holy Spirit the same as yours?
Claiming self knowledge and self spiritual enlightenment is no different than the Mormons who claim the burning in the bosom, or the Bhudists or New age spiritists that claim enlightenment.
Are they right, or is there another standard for truth?

Are you claiming that only those that come to your way of thinking are Christians and others are still in the dark despite having the same scriptures as you? How does that work?

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2 Timothy 2:15-16 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

Seems straight-forward to me.

Good comedy, are better promises all that the scriptures say they are, which we just saw all those scriptures, or all of that totally ignored and someone say they are what he decides they are now ?


No wonder the time came they turn to fables and those teachers ( of the law who don't know what they teach or affirm.) and away from the truth.

What are better promises ?


Hebrews 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.



Follow the pattern of promise, Israel had a king who they chose, Saul. ( rejecting the Lord from reigning over them.)



1 Samuel 8:7 And the Lord said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.
8 According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt even unto this day, wherewith they have forsaken me, and served other gods, so do they also unto thee.



Keep watch and see what happened when God had removed king Saul, God raised up unto Israel to be their king, and gave testimony that David was found after Gods own heart, which shall fulfil all of the Lords will. That will is of the seed of David according to the Lords promise, He raised unto Israel a Saviour Jesus.

This was preached to Israel, see now the testimonies in Acts, the glad tidings declared to them, ( who will kil Stephen anyway) how the promise ( established upon better promises) God has fulfilled the same unto the children of the fathers, in raising up Jesus again, as written God declaring, that This is His Son, this day ( of resurrection) He has begotten Him. David was given the promises of sure mercies, and to not suffer His holy one to see corruption. David saw corruption, He whom God raised again saw no corruption. Be it known ( believed) to them, that through Christ is preached the forgiveness of sins, and by Him all that believe are justified from all things, which they could not be justified by the law of Moses. ( THESE ARE THE BETTER PROMISES.)



Acts 13:22 And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave their testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will.
23 Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:
24 When John had first preached before his coming the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel.

Acts 13:32 And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers,
33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.
34 And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David.
35 Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
36 For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption:
37 But he, whom God raised again, saw no corruption.
38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.



That promise that Abraham should be heir of the word, and his seed, was not through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

Jesus Christ as a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God to confirm the promises made unto the fathers.



Romans 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

Romans 15:8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the TRUTH of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:



All that was testified to Israel for faith, are the better promises preached, no need to dream up what they may be, they are told, so anyone hearing them and believing in them would be established in the present TRUTH. ( 2 Peter 1:12.)

Here are those promises of life again, David being a prophet and knowing that GOD HAD SWOWN WITH AN OATH TO HIM, that according to the flesh of the fruit of his loins, He would raise up Christ to SIT ON HIS THRONE. ( David spoke of the resurrection of Christ, that the soul of David would not be left in hell, as David saw this before.

Jesus being by the right hand of God exalted, received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, and shed forth that on the people who saw and heard. David saw the Lord speak unto the Lord, ( there is one Lord. Ephesians 4:5.)to sit on HIs right hand, until His enemies are made to be HIs footstool. ( When all is subdued unto Him, then the Son Himself shall be subject unto the Father which out all things under Him, that GOd may be all in all/ no longer only at His right hand. 1 Corinthians 15:28.) This testimony of faith let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that GOd had made the same Jesus, who they crucified, both LORD AND CHRIST.


1 Corinthians 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Acts 2:25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:
26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:
27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.
29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this,which ye now see and hear.
34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.





What are those better promises established ? The present truth, Sitting upon the throne of David, and his kingdom, to establish it with judgement, and with JUSTICE, for ever.

In mercy ( GRACE.) the throne is established, He sits upon it in TRUTH, in the tabernacle of David, judging and hasting RIGHTEOUSNES.

In RIGHTEOUSNESS they ( heavenly Jerusalem) shall be established, terror cant come nar. ( as it is NEW and from above.)

But what was the fault of the previous promises ?

It was how Israel was established, or went about to establish, being IGNORANT OF GODS RIGHTEOUSNESS, and going about to ESTABLISH their own righteousness, had not submitted themselves to the righteousness of God. ( FOR CHRIST IS THE END OF THE LAW FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS, TO EVERYONE THAT BELIEVES.

That is exactly wat better promises established are, seeing the one that Israel tried to establish and now the better one stablished replacing it entirely. ( THEIR RIGHTEOUSNESS IS OF THE LORD/ Isaiah 54:17.)



2 Peter 1:12 Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though ye know them, and be established in the present truth.

Isaiah 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.

Isaiah 16:5 And in mercy shall the throne be established: and he shall sit upon it in truth in the tabernacle of David, judging, and seeking judgment, and hasting righteousness.

Isaiah 54:14 In righteousness shalt thou be established: thou shalt be far from oppression; for thou shalt not fear: and from terror; for it shall not come near thee.

Isaiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of me, saith the Lord.

Romans 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.




So that establishes the better promises and then the better law, which one ? ( of works and people trying to be a law teacher WHO DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TEACHING ON THIS LAW AND SABBATH FORUM?)

Of faith, and faith does not do the deeds of the law, but as it is established on better promises, it does BETTER.


Hebrews 6:9 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak.
Hebrews 7:19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
Hebrews 9:23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
Hebrews 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.



Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Romans 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.


1 Timothy 1:7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.

Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

bèlla said:

This is a quote from the link you posted.

Did you catch that? With regular use, your physical senses can be exercised to discern what is of God and what is of the enemy.

Do you believe that?

~bella

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I think that is a uncertain territory unless scripture based

com7fy8 said:

example

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If we see evil in what ever shape or form we are to stand up just like Jesus

bèlla said:

The lack of edification is the problem.

~bella

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what do you mean specifically?
By the way, I forgot to mention, he goes to church. we discussed it a bit. As well, we are to do like Jesus did, eat with sinners. Socialise sinners. And be genuine friends not just to win them. But be the light. As well I have made clear I can`t make it. If there ever is something it`ll be a meal.