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essentialsaltes · 2025-10-09T15:32:34-0500

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem today accused Oregon Gov. Tina Kotek and Portland Mayor Keith Wilson of "covering up" terrorism on Portland's streets.

"I was in Portland yesterday and had the chance to visit with the governor of Oregon and also the mayor there in town, and they are absolutely covering up the terrorism that is hitting their streets," Noem said during a roundtable about antifa that Trump held at the White House this afternoon.

"These leaders in these local cities, along with Pritzker and Johnson, ignore what’s going on, or, sir, they’re helping antifa cover it up," she added.

Always in His Presence · 2025-10-09T15:30:46-0500

It is October 9, 2025 - 170 days later and Pete Hegseth is still in office.

I state this because it is the topic of the thread - seems to be going off topic lately...

PloverWing · 2025-10-09T15:30:19-0500

Hvizsgyak said:
Based on what I have read so far, people who lean more to the left feel there would be no problems with the Liberals running the country. Although, I not sure how many of them understood that there would be no opposition from the right (great sadness yes but no opposition). They seem to be okay with Jan Schakowsky, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Eleanor Holmes Norton, Jamie Raskin, Greg Casar, Barbara Lee and others and that they would lead our country to success. I thought there would be some objective thinking here and some words of caution about giving some people too much power,

In your original post, I thought your focus was on how it would be if Liberal policies were implemented more broadly. Properly-funded education, environmental protections, human rights protections, universal health care -- hey, I don't see a downside.

But you raise a good point in this post. The total disappearance of an opposition party would be a dangerous situation. When everything is functioning well, the opposition party raises thoughtful questions that are important for the majority party to consider. "How are we going to raise the funding to pay for that?" "You're protecting the rights of group X, but that's in conflict with the rights of group Y; how are you going to protect group Y?" And so on.

I don't think the conservatives in Congress have been serving in the role of a thoughtful opposition party for the last decade or so. (And, of course, they're now the majority in Congress, not the opposition). But if I imagine a party made up of people from an earlier era -- folks like Warren Rudman, John McCain, and Mitt Romney -- a party like that could serve as a useful counterweight to the liberals in Congress.

Always in His Presence · 2025-10-09T15:25:17-0500

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer has faced criticism and scrutiny over his stance on the current government shutdown, particularly because he previously voted for a similar spending bill that could have averted it.
Earlier in the year, Schumer joined eight other Democrats and one independent in voting to advance a Republican-crafted bill that avoided a shutdown but handed President Donald Trump a legislative win. At the time, Schumer defended his vote by arguing that a shutdown would have been worse for Americans. However, this move sparked backlash from within his own party, with some Democrats calling for new Senate leadership.

Always in His Presence · 2025-10-09T15:23:13-0500

Senate Democrats vote down Republican bill to keep funding the government putting it on path to shutdown

Always in His Presence · 2025-10-09T15:22:01-0500

WATCH: Schumer speaks after Senate Democrats reject latest measure to end shutdown

Democrats are demanding that Congress extend healthcare benefits, while Republicans are refusing to commit to anything until the government is reopened. They are trying to wear Democrats down to vote for a House-passed bill that would reopen the government temporarily, mostly at current spending levels.

The bipartisan bill passed in the House - Schumer is using the shut down for political gains -

The Liturgist · 2025-10-09T15:22:01-0500

RDKirk said:
This is a very important point. I've seen "revelations" that ChatGPT considers American black people the most moral ethnic group and the ethnic group it would most want to be if it were human. These revelations are the result of exactly what you're describing, and I've been able to duplicate them rather easily.

"Would you like to play a game?" -- WOPR

Indeed, although I will also say chatGPT has very good guardrails against racism so what could be going on there is prompt hacking and/or outright fakery. Did you see screenshots or was it just purported output.

wing2000 · 2025-10-09T15:21:28-0500

essentialsaltes said:
‘Who?’ Trump stumbles after being asked about the suspension of Habeas Corpus during Antifa roundtable
During the roundtable, Trump was asked: “Have you given any more thought to possibly suspending habeas corpus to not only deal with these insurrectionists across the nation, but also to continue rapidly deporting illegal aliens?”

“Suspending who?” Trump responded, either mishearing the question or thinking habeas corpus was a person.

“Habeas corpus,” the person repeated, causing Trump to defer to Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, who was sitting alongside him during the panel.

“I don’t know. I’d rather leave that to Kristi,” he said, turning to ask Noem, “What do you think?”

Noem awkwardly replies, “No, sir. I haven’t been part of any discussions on that.”

Does Noem know what Habeas Corpus is...yet?

ralliann · 2025-10-09T15:13:39-0500

mark46 said:
I guess that it is the wrong time to congratulate Trump, Qatar, Egypt and Turkey.

I would note that for the last two years, the Arab states have celebrated the demise of the terrorists in Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, and Gaza (and celebrated the bombing of Iran).

By this time next year, Israel will have completed the Abrahma Accords and signed an agreement with Saudia Arabia.
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And I pray that we will have a new Israeli government that will fully withdraw from the West Bank and allow peace within Palestine (Gaza and the West Bank). Never have the Arab states been so united in a cause, except when they have opposed Shiite terrorists.

Where have you been? Peace has been sought for many, many years. Still they wanted Israel gone..

essentialsaltes · 2025-10-09T15:13:15-0500

Renewable electricity use rose to 34.3% of global consumption in the first half of 2025, while coal's use fell to 33.1%, the energy think tank Ember found. Renewable energies include sources like solar, wind and hydro, as opposed to fossil fuels like coal and natural gas.

Populous developing countries like China and India led the charge in making the switch to renewable energies, Ember reports. Meanwhile, Western societies including the European Union and the United States increased their consumption of coal during this period.

China has been the largest driver in the move to renewable energy sources, accounting for 55% of global solar generation growth. The United States' share, by contrast, was just 14%. Renewables might slow as the Trump administration moves to sharply reduce clean-energy development.

"China took technologies that were originally developed in the United States back in Bell Labs in the 1950s and figured out how to scale them up, and just relentlessly year after year make them cheaper and cheaper and slightly better performing each time to the point that the cost of solar panels has fallen by well over 90% and the cheapest solar panels in the world are being manufactured in China," Cohan said.

in related news...

California says goodbye to coal and hello to cleaner electricity

One of the most consequential moments in California’s drive to beat back climate change will take place next month. The state will stop receiving electricity from the Intermountain Power Plant in Central Utah, meaning our reliance on coal as a source of power will essentially be over.

My colleague, Sammy Roth reported on the historic breakthrough recently in The Times, detailing how the state has gradually been moving away from burning coal, which spews greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, thereby warming the planet and exacerbating droughts, wildfires and other scourges.

As Sammy reported, the U.S. got nearly half its electricity from coal-fired plants as recently as 2007. By 2023, that figure had dropped to just 16.2%. California drove an even more dramatic shift, getting just 2.2% of its electricity from coal in 2024 — nearly all of it from the Intermountain plant.

LoricaLady · 2025-10-09T15:11:45-0500

Oct. 09, 2025 | Israel
West Bank Christians Threatened
[12] prayers in [2] nations have been posted for Christian converts.

Radical Muslims in the West Bank have threatened to kill a Christian convert from Islam and his family, including his four children. After receiving the death threats, the man and his family fled from Bethlehem to hide in a larger city. They request prayer that Israeli authorities will allow them to stay. Another West Bank convert to Christianity was confronted by his parents and his village imam with an ultimatum: Return to Islam within a month or be imprisoned by local Palestinian officials. Read More.
Oct. 09, 2025 | China
Pastor Arrested, Wife Harassed in Ongoing Persecution
[9] prayers in [1] nation have been posted for Pastor Chang Shun.

Pastor Chang Shun of Maizhong Reformed Church was detained on June 29, 2025, on suspicion of "organizing illegal gatherings." His wife, Li Yunyan, reported that he has faced ongoing persecution by the authorities since 2021, including detentions and fines. She said local authorities forcibly entered their home to arrest her husband in June and also detained several of their house guests for questioning before expelling them from the city. Since her husband's arrest, Li Yunyan has been harassed and followed, and her two young children fear for their father. Read More.

ralliann · 2025-10-09T15:11:23-0500

kinshasa19 said:
I am astounded by some of the comments by 'discerning' christians who support Israel's murderous slaughter of children, women and innocent men. I have never visited USA, but I have heard of your deluded zeal for the state of Israel.

Astounding Christians would accuse them of this and not Hamas.

kinshasa19 said:
Satan will tell you 10 facts, and 9 of them will be true. Let me tell you a secret, the true nation of Israel is not in the middle east, and Izra el are not God's chosen people. They are deluded.
2 Thessalonians 2:11
Isaiah 66:4

And this.

essentialsaltes · 2025-10-09T15:04:12-0500

‘Who?’ Trump stumbles after being asked about the suspension of Habeas Corpus during Antifa roundtable

During the roundtable, Trump was asked: “Have you given any more thought to possibly suspending habeas corpus to not only deal with these insurrectionists across the nation, but also to continue rapidly deporting illegal aliens?”

“Suspending who?” Trump responded, either mishearing the question or thinking habeas corpus was a person.

“Habeas corpus,” the person repeated, causing Trump to defer to Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, who was sitting alongside him during the panel.

“I don’t know. I’d rather leave that to Kristi,” he said, turning to ask Noem, “What do you think?”

Noem awkwardly replies, “No, sir. I haven’t been part of any discussions on that.”

sjastro · 2025-10-09T14:59:28-0500

stevevw said:
Its not a lie though. You are complaining about some of the measures that are a little more imprecise. But that those measures like in the widest parts of the vase where there is more room for slight deviations is small fry still. We are talking 2 or 3 thicknesses of a piece of paper lol.

But at the best which in in many more places we are talking a hair or two.

So all the complaining about the so called imprecisement numbers are red herrings as far as whether or not this negates the fact that a lathe was used. We had some saying a 1950's lathe would do that is not as precise as modern machining.

To achieve some of these most precise symmetry, circularility, straightness and flatness down to a hair or two is well recognised as signatures of lathing. The more precise the more sophisticated the lathing as far as fixed and stable machining that will not move or deviate hardly at all.

So in reality its not a matter of whether a lathe was used but how sophisticated it was. Skeptics like to say 'no lathe' and it was all free hand with a few simple tools. Expert machine toolers and engineers doing the tests say the witness marks match modern machining to achieve such near precision.

In fact most on this thread have had to begrudgingly acknowledge some sort of lathing was involved. Even if that was a Bore stick type rotation. I have even linked evidence that mainstream archeology acknowledges that some sort of lathing must have been involved with these precision vases going back 100 years.

So all this objection does not negate that some pretty advanced methods were used at a time when the potters wheel was not even around.

Your cognitive dissonance has apparently affected your understanding of the English language. What part of my post(s) did you not understand where suspect software or its failure to analyse scans as 3D objects which is a given fact, cannot lead to any form of conclusion on how the vases were manufactured?

stevevw said:
Give me a break. This was used. Its rediculous that you think somehow the proper software is going to suddenly show that the numbers are wrong in the metrology. Explain how the different software will change the measures in the vase. Change the measure for symmetry or circularity found.

Stop making stupid ignorant comments on subject matters clearly beyond your level of understanding.
ISO 1101 is nothing more than a collection of letters and numbers to you, it defines zonal tolerances for 3D objects which is beyond the scope of the amateur software of Maximus.energy and Artifacts Foundation.

stevevw said:
How does this change the guage metrology that finds a hairs deviation in circularity or flatness. How does this change the circularity or concentricity found in the vase by structured light scanning. Do the numbers change somehow with the software.

If you had the necessary comprehension skills, the answer has been given on numerous occasions. Also don't let the facts get in the way when vase data analysed by Polyworks and Zeiss Inspector do not show 'hairs' deviation.

stevevw said:
The testers clearly state that these methods of testing are the 'Industry Standard'. They explain why they used the specific methods and software and why they chose this as being the best method.

What a load of BS the software they used is not industry standard.

stevevw said:
Why is it that many have downloaded the files and none have complained like you. Why has absolutely no one formally objected but only you on some social media platform. This is all red herrings. Write a formal paper showing that they are using the wrong methods and send it in.

Another concept beyond your level of understanding involves echo chambers. Did it ever occur to you they are preaching to the converted and so why should any doubts be raised?

Since you are presenting their arguments here I'm asking you why did they not use professional approved software in the analysis?

JulieB67 · 2025-10-09T14:53:47-0500

BelieveItOarKnot said:
You merely use context in order to eliminate God's Words from applying to YOU

I use context in order to rightly divide the Word. Something you continue to refuse to do. You pretty much just admitted that Christ wasted his time separating them into groups with the parable in Mark chapter 4. Why didn't he just say these apply to everyone if that was certainly the case?? But he didn't. He specifically separated them. So why don't you? We are to follow his lead. You continue to make no sense with how you are reading and comprehending the Word.

BelieveItOarKnot said:
Christians trying to eliminate God's Words remain under the influences of the adversary

Well, you must be completely tied to the adversary since you throw out much of the Word in order to form your unbiblical doctrine. We can't just cherry pick verses.

And since you refuse to see context it's pointless to continue this.

Paulos23 · 2025-10-09T14:49:39-0500

Larniavc said:
What I don’t understand is why everyone has not made the right financial decisions in life to be as financially secure as I am now as an avuncular gentleman in is early 50s.

It’s a mystery.

You are assuming I have not made any wrong financial decisions. I have. I had a large credit card debt and no house at 40. If I didn't have my job, I would not have made it back from that.

Still, far comment. I managed to have support that most do not get.

GoldenBoy89 · 2025-10-09T14:42:19-0500

Just saw the clip of her recent interview.

Yikes.

She’s totally unfit to lead a state like CA. If there’s one thing I can’t stand in a candidate, it’s a feeling of entitlement to some high office. It’s what I hate most about Trump and I see the same in Porter’s answers to the interviewer. Like elections are just formalities. We don’t need that kind of attitude in charge of place as big and important as California.

Delvianna · 2025-10-09T14:34:40-0500

As much as I would love to see the 10 commandments posted in schools, forcing public schools to do so, I think is wrong. God never forces us to comply with his own rules, so I think this is going a bit too far to make it law. If a teacher wants to post it, they should be able to but if a teacher doesn't, I think it's equally fine that they don't.

GoldenBoy89 · 2025-10-09T14:26:31-0500

I don’t hate ICE. I hate what they’re doing to people, both American and non. There’s no excuse for the level of cruelty and underhanded tactics they are employing in their mission.

prodromos · 2025-10-09T14:24:08-0500

d taylor said:
I have one question not related to your post, do you believe in evolution?

I personally do not. There is not a snowflakes chance in a supernova that all the complex, specialised cells that make up any living organism, all working together in concert, could have come about from random mutation.

MotoToTheMax · 2025-10-09T14:20:27-0500

BCP1928 said:
I know some husbands who deserve it. He's lucky it wasn't a cast iron frying pan.

Nobody deserves that, including the pan or anything else.

Benaiah468 · 2025-10-09T14:19:36-0500

It is a problem what Donald Trump has done to the entire "Palestinian" protest scene, which has been up in arms for weeks, both worldwide and in Germany, and is almost rampaging through the streets everywhere. And always with the aim of branding Israel as the devil of the world, with whom it is somehow impossible to talk, who must be destroyed, etc. In other words, full-on Hamas propaganda.

And now, to be honest, something like a worst-case scenario is happening. Hamas itself is signing an agreement with Israel through the mediation of, wait for it, the next enemy, Donald Trump. And that must be the ultimate worst-case scenario for this scene, because now they are losing their mobilisation issue. They can't even say that Hamas has been treated badly, unfairly beaten or anything like that. No, Hamas signed it themselves and took the first step towards this peace agreement. And Greta Thunberg is part of this pro-"Palestinian", pro-Hamas, anti-Israel, anti-Jewish scene.

And that could be a problem for Greta Thunberg, because Greta Thunberg and protest are, in a way, also a business for her. She cleverly tries to keep that under wraps; for example, there is no official information about her personal wealth. One business magazine estimates that she is worth around 3.5M USD. But there is evidence that shows that cash flows are obviously also dependent on the respective political climate. And so far in 2025, things may have been going quite well for her with the flotilla she organised and her appearances. But apart from that, she hasn't really found anything groundbreakingly new after the climate issue.

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Pastor Arrested, Wife Harassed in Ongoing Persecution

‘Who?’ Trump stumbles after being asked about the suspension of Habeas Corpus during Antifa roundtable