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  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

He’s a citizen with a Real ID. ICE detained him anyway. Twice.

If you feel your civil rights have been violated contact an attorney to see if you have a legitimate case. There are problem officers, I remember a study in Chicago said that if they got rid of 1% of the officers the city would have saved a ton of money. Although a large majority of complaints are found to have no substance, there are that 1 or even 2 percent of officers who are repeat offenders and should be removed. As in other professions they somehow find a way to manage and keep their jobs.
I see, so a society with enough citizens with enough disposable income to mount a legal defense against an overly zealous constabulary is just hunky-dory?
”Land of the free” no more.
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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

Watch the video, it's only a minute and 45 seconds.

He calls for an "international strike force" to go after the "narco-terrorists where they live".
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"International Strike Force" could be the DEA or Coast Guard. He didn't say anything about the U.S. military.
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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

Rep. Jim Himes, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said, “What I saw in that room was one of the most troubling things I’ve seen in my time in public service.”

“You have two individuals in clear distress without any means of locomotion, with a destroyed vessel, who are killed by the United States,” the Connecticut lawmaker said.

He later said that “the admiral confirmed that there had not been a 'kill them all' order, and that there was not an order to grant no quarter.”

In a joint statement, Himes and the House Armed Services Committee's ranking member, Adam Smith, D-Wash., said, “we saw or heard nothing today to convince us that the decision to strike the vessel a second time was justified.”

chairman [Tom Cotton] said that in the video, he saw two survivors “trying to flip a boat” and “load it with drugs” before they were killed.

Sen. Chris Coons ... added that he and Cotton emerged from the briefing with “different understandings” of what they saw.
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Trump to pardon Ex-Honduras President Guilty of Drug Trafficking and conspiring to import cocaine into the United States

What sense does it make at all, that Trump would pardon Hernandez, if there wasn't factual evidence that the Biden DOJ did something shady?

...A jury wouldn't know if, say, the Biden DOJ made some special arrangements with some witnesses, especially if those arrangements were kept classified.

When an action cannot be justified, yet a courageous individual steps up to defend it, that person may be mistaken—entirely in error for trying to support what cannot be defended. Nonetheless, their bravery and willingness to stand apart from the crowd to champion the indefensible should be acknowledged as a form of chivalry.
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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

Can you name any democrat or republican leader (prior to 2015) who called for the direct use of military force to go after drug traffickers? Admiteddly, my memory might be fuzzy, but I can't think of any. Certainly, no president in my lifetime has ever called for using our military in this manner.
Watch the video, it's only a minute and 45 seconds.

He calls for an "international strike force" to go after the "narco-terrorists where they live".
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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

Such people were also the mainstream democratic party in recent times. Until the party changed drastically immediately after Trump became president.

Can you name any democrat or republican leader (prior to 2015) who called for the direct use of military force to go after drug traffickers? Admiteddly, my memory might be fuzzy, but I can't think of any. Certainly, no president in my lifetime has ever called for using our military in this manner.
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Exclusive: The White House is looking to replace Pete Hegseth as defense secretary


It found that the information Hegseth shared had been marked "secret" and could have imperiled American troops had it been intercepted by a foreign adversary, the two people who have read the report said. The evaluation by the Defense Department Inspector General also concluded that Hegseth violated military regulations by using his personal phone for official business, according to those people.

The report also said that Hegseth, as the secretary of defense, is the “original classification authority” and in fact does have the authority to declassify intelligence based on his judgment.

But the inspector general did not address whether Hegseth took the proper steps to declassify the information shared in the chat, the two people said.


Signal gate report via Politico:

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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

Unfortunately such action appeals to certain people, who see it as forceful, direct, appropriate and effective. (While it is the first two, it is certainly not the last two.) By what I am confident is the purest of coincidences such people also tend to be MAGA supporters.
Such people were also the mainstream democratic party in recent times. Until the party changed drastically immediately after Trump became president.
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Now does everyone understand why the "right to refuse illegal orders" video was made?

@Oompa Loompa: So is this morally abhorrent?
I apologize for the late reply. I often get swamped with notifications and cannot keep track of it all. But to answer your question, if there were survivors and those survivors were positively identified, and those survivors were not still actively trying to resist (like trying to salvage drugs), it would be both morally and legally wrong to kill them. But as I get more information about the topic, it appears that the situation isnt so simple.
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Christian OU student flunked after calling gender ideology 'demonic'

Interesting video. For those who don't want to take 13 minutes to watch it...instructor placed on administrative leave; University decision that her "0" will not be averaged into her final grade for the class. University posted messages that it will not tolerate religious discrimination.
Good!
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Four unidentified military-style drones breached no-fly zone to target Zelenskyy's arrival in Dublin

FOUR UNIDENTIFIED MILITARY-STYLE drones breached a no-fly zone and flew towards the flight path of Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s plane at sea near Dublin Airport late on Monday night, The Journal has learned.

The plane landed, slightly ahead of schedule, just moments before the incident happened at about 11pm. The drones reached the location where Zelenskyy’s plane was expected to be at the exact moment it had been due to pass.

The drones then orbited above an Irish Navy vessel that had secretly been deployed in the Irish Sea for the Zelenskyy visit.

Sources have said that the drones took off from the north-east of Dublin, possibly near Howth, and flew for up to two hours. Enquiries are being carried out to determine whether the drones took off from land or from an undetected ship.

It is not yet known who launched and controlled the drones or where the drones are now.

[I can make a guess!]

The incident mirrors similar drone incursions in Europe in recent months which led to the closure of airports in Brussels and Denmark and caused significant security tensions.

It is understood that the drones missed the approach of the Ukrainian leader’s plane and then turned their attention to the LÉ William Butler Yeats, the Irish naval vessel which was secretly deployed off Dublin.

Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world
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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

Sure, let's address effective ways to reduce the supply and demand for illegal drugs. Blowing up fishing boats over a thousand miles away from our sures isn't going to cut it.
Unfortunately such action appeals to certain people, who see it as forceful, direct, appropriate and effective. (While it is the first two, it is certainly not the last two.) By what I am confident is the purest of coincidences such people also tend to be MAGA supporters. Who would have thought?

Targets (not for bullets, but for relevant action) should be , as you imply, the drug lords at one end of the chain and the users at the other end.
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Is Hell Annihilationism or Eternal Torment

How about as a starting point start with Psalms and work your way through Proverbs. Quite a few verses in there about what ultimately happens to the wicked.
I’ve read them as part of my many researches into scripture and there are written using a great assortment of literary devices. For example, psalms are mostly poetic and some of them were meant to be sang so a lot of symbolic teachings. I’ve yet to find support for annihilation there.
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Christian OU student flunked after calling gender ideology 'demonic'

Additional note: Yes, the article is in my university library. It's about the connection between "gender typicality" and things like popularity and teasing in middle schoolers, much as the abstract describes. I'm glad I connected with this article, because one of my research interests is exploring ways to make computer science more inviting for female students, and in our current culture, interest in computer science is considered gender atypical for girls and women. This article and its references give some useful background about middle schoolers and the social pressures they experience.
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I Commit To Pray requests.

Three Language Groups Will Soon Have Bibles

Front-line workers in Nepal report that three language groups will soon have Bibles available in print for the first time. Praise the Lord for the years of faithful translation work that have been completed and for the culmination of this work. Pray for the next steps of the printing and distribution of God’s Word to people who have long waited to have it in their own languages. Finally, pray that every Bible produced in these new translations will reach fertile ground and lead to spiritual maturity and church growth among all of Nepal’s people

Call For Unity

Front-line workers request prayer for unity amonG Kyrgyz Christian communities, especially those including Muslim-background believers. Converts from Islam are often beaten, and the small Christian minority is generally oppressed by society. Due to this constant pressure, church groups often have trouble trusting each other and working together. “Pray for the unity of the persecuted body there,” a front-line worker requested, adding that unity among Christians will help to advance God’s kingdom.

Emotional Healing For Survivors

Kemi, her husband and several others were abducted in 2017 by radical Islamists. The militants killed most of the Christians, including Kemi’s husband, but spared Kemi. Instead, they marched her into the forest and abused her. For nine months she prayed that God would rescue her. One day, while fetching water, she was able to escape her captors. After living on wild fruit for three weeks, she finally stumbled onto a road, describing it as a miracle. Later she learned she was pregnant, and her community rejected her and the baby. Kemi became depressed, and she had trouble sleeping and taking care of herself and her child. With the help of VOM and a local counseling ministry, Kemi has received spiritual and emotional care. She can now sleep, work and serve in her local church. Front-line workers requested prayer for spiritual and emotional care for others like Kemi who have suffered for their faith.
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Game based on Bible passage about killing everything that breathes

Holy hand grenade???
How far we have fallen.
It's from Monty Python and the Holy Grail and Worms
Satan loves to make what is bad good, and the scriptures warn... Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who turn darkness to light and light to darkness, who replace bitter with sweet and sweet with bitter. Isaiah 5:20

What do you think about this:
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Well it is in early access and 35,000 people have put it in their library, 7,300 people have played it, and 213 have bought the DLC. Chris says having a good capsule image (that costs $300+) is extremely important but I don't have a very good capsule image.
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What are some of your guns own and use then for Hunting and target practice?

yeah but I got tired of working it and not enough bang. I mean it I need a certain amount of recoil.


some had accelerated rifling. Are you referring to the 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser?
was referring to that with faster twist rate barrels and copper bullets, calibers such as 270 win/30 06 can kept very well with the latest and greatest ones such as the creedmoors, and western and Prc rounds
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State leaders speak out about plans to expand the Islamic Academy of Alabama

Plans proposed by the K-12 school were denied by a Hoover zoning commission.

In a statement, the Academy said objections to their plan were “…unrelated to zoning criteria and instead reflected harmful stereotypes and conspiracy theories about Muslims and Islamic institutions.”

[Article provides ample evidence of the harmful stereotypes and conspiracy theories]

“We really just don’t have a place for such here,” said Rep. Butler. “Where you’re screaming ‘kill the infidel, death to America.’ That’s just not welcome here. There are plenty of Muslim countries that would welcome that.”

“What they’re doing is going against our Constitution,” said Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) in an interview with Breanna Morella on Infowars, speaking out against the Academy. “I mean, you can’t preach hate, you can’t preach death. ‘Kill all infidels. Kill all Christians.’ You can’t do that.”

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I quoted Daniel 12:10b..... only the wise leaders will understand.
Half a verse.
The context is Daniel 12:8.....The Words are to be kept secret until the time of the end.
The context is the whole chapter - if not the whole book.
Daniel 12:1: "at that time" - at what time?
In verse 6 Daniel is asking how long it would be before all these things would be fulfilled.
Daniel 12:7 - "when the power of the holy people is broken". Then Daniel said that he heard but did not understand, so he asked what the outcome of those things would be.
Daniel 12:9, he was told to go on his way.
Daniel 12:10 - all of it, not just the bit you quoted:
Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.
Future tense. Many WILL be purified, those who are wicked WILL continue to be wicked, the wise WILL understand.
You seem to be applying that now - you've already judged which category I am in.
Also, your rejection of a viable explanation of Zechariah 5, without any sensible alternative, is unreasonable and shows extreme bias, as well as just ignoring the present realty of the Middle East situation.
I've given you an explanation of Zechariah 5; the fact that you keep asking suggests that either you reject it, or that you are actually looking for a viable application to the world situation today.

This is what I've been asking all along: why do you think that you have the authority to apply prophecies to today?
Why do you read them and say; "this applies to ......" , "X situation is this passage being fulfilled"?
Why do you speak so scornfully of clergy and theologians - apparently they have it wrong and you, alone, are right?
It could be that many others, throughout the ages, have believed those verses were for their day. What makes you think you have it all sorted out - given that you've been wrong at least once already?
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Trump said he’s looking into an Australian-style retirement program for America. Here’s how it works

...curious to see what our Aussie friends have to say.
This one thinks it's excellent. My wife and I made a point of putting a little extra into our super fund over the years via what is called Salary Sacrifice. That's where part of your salary goes into your super and you don't pay tax on tax on it. So we retired with quite a decent amount. And we don't pay tax on the super fund when we access it.

Employers contributions are mandatory and you can pick your own fund managers or DIY. Our fund manager is doing a great job. We live very well on it. We've been drawing on it since we retired 7 years ago and there's actually more money in the fund now then there was when we retired. Not being able to spend it fast enough is just the sort of problem you want.

The federal pension is not accessible to us as it's means tested. So a decent super fund means you're totally self sufficient. That seems fair. If people do spend most of it (maybe I'll get that Harley and we'll start flying everywhere first class) then the government eventually steps in.
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FBI makes arrest in investigation into pipe bombs placed in DC on eve of Jan. 6 riot, AP source says

Werent people right here at CF saying it was a female LEO
That's what The Blaze went with:

or federal intel employee ?
Probably. 'Fedsurrection' seems to be trending again on twitter as the tinfoil hat crowd adjusts their headgear.
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TRUMP "MISSED THE DEADLINE" TO CALL OFF TX GERRYMANDERING; CALIFORNIA WILL NOW DRAW NEW, MORE “BEAUTIFUL MAPS”

I may not have the highest opinion of Trump's intelligence, but I expect he's aware that Democrats can and will gerrymander, given that plenty of Democratic-controlled states have done so. For just one example, take Illinois's notorious congressional district map (source):
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More plausibly, he (or whoever was the one who suggested it to him) thought that the Democrats had already gerrymandered so much in their states that they really couldn't gerrymander harder enough to make up for the gains the Republicans hope they'd with their Texas gerrymander, but overlooked the way California could increase it, or thought it unlikely that its citizenry would embrace gerrymandering so much as to actually deliberately vote for it.
Ooh ooh, can I play?

Check out our last couple iterations:
(2003-2013)
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(2013-2023):
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They've since been made normal, but it was pretty wild for a while.
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