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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

What false claim? I didn't say murdered. Were they not killed, did they survive? Where have you read that? Are you arguing that the two survivors were not in peril at sea? Their boat was non-functional, I think no one is disputing that?
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/05/politics/suriname-boat-strike-bradley

At least I have prima facie reasons to believe the boat was functionally destroyed.

How does this relates to my question to you?
You implied murder. If it was truely unknown as to what happened then you would not frame it the way you did as though they have done something wrong.

Your using language "in peril at sea" implies innocent people were killed. When you don't know the context. This is not some boating accident but terrorist actively engaged in the transfer of drugs.
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Second Sunday of Advent

December 7, 2025

Our Morning Offering – 7 December – Veni Redemptor Gentium, Saviour of the Nations, Come! By St Ambrose


One Minute Reflection – 7 December – ‘My brethren, do not let us remain in carelessness … ‘

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Now does everyone understand why the "right to refuse illegal orders" video was made?

Apparently it's a nobel ideal that you and many other conservatives in this thread disagree with, so I don't see why you have a problem with democratic governments not following it.

I'm joking. Of course I see why.
Were you against violating human rights when many conservatives were denied them by their government. Do you need a list.?
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That’s oxygen, but there’s also other gasses, and at no point will it be next to a vacuum, as that is impossible.
All the gases making up the atmosphere are thinner at higher elevations. Climbers only carry oxygen because they don't need Nitrogen and it would be extra weight.

I just told you, the atmosphere gets thinner and thinner. There are gas molecules in the moon's orbit, they are just spread out incredibly sparsely.

What is nonsense is the flat earth claim that the earth's atmosphere is sealed beneath a firmament. It we were in a sealed container then air pressure would be constant regardless of altitude. Clearly this is not the case, thus the flat earth claim is falsified.
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State leaders speak out about plans to expand the Islamic Academy of Alabama

And in America where Christianity is still dominant for now, there is no such thing.
The fact remains that there are Christians in America calling for and celebrating the deaths of gay folks. And there are Christian’s Nationalists who want to rule America.

Remind me how that is different from American Islamists who want to do the same?
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Now does everyone understand why the "right to refuse illegal orders" video was made?

That is a noble ideal that was lost on the Obama and Biden administrations. The evidence is starting to be exposed. The truth will prevail. We shall see who really is above the law .
Apparently it's a nobel ideal that you and many other conservatives in this thread disagree with, so I don't see why you have a problem with democratic governments not following it.

I'm joking. Of course I see why.
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Does Open Carry Cause Problems?

Personally I believe that any and all "carry" makes us less safe, and I think that all those who read the Gospels with an open heart and mind would heed Jesus' message about non-violence.
Luke 22:36
Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
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Why we are not supposed to keep the Sabbath

I am referring back to God's written and spoken Testimony of what is the Sabbath. :)

Exo 20:10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God

And this never changed Heb4:4 because no one is above God to change His written and spoken Testimony. Exo31:18

Right but in Revelation only those who are beheaded for Christ’s sake rest from their works so which way you gonna have it?
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B flat B♭

The atmosphere gets progressively thinner as you rise in altitude. Ask anyone who has tried to climb Mt Everest without carrying an oxygen tank. There is no sudden line where there is atmosphere on one side and vacuum on the other, it just gets thinner and thinner.

Yep, that's an apt description.
That’s oxygen, but there’s also other gasses, and at no point will it be next to a vacuum, as that is impossible.
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Have craving or urge to wear ex-wife ring on ring finger

Do you have a copy of your divorce decree? If not you should be able to get a new copy from the courthouse, or wherever it is stored at your location.

That is your proof that you were married. You got married, and it ended. You have the freedom to heal, grow, and move on with your life, whatever that might be.

Get your mind grounded in reality, but do it in a healthy way.
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I’m pretty sure no one has taken a measuring tape and measured the circumference of the earth, in both directions. Actually, there’s no cross polar flights recorded in history even.
I'm taking it that you haven't followed the advice of @Apple Sky

Also, the Australian adventurer Dick Smith circumnavigated the earth via the poles in 1982.
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Majority of pastors now using AI to prepare sermons amid rapid embrace of technology: study

A majority of pastors are now using artificial intelligence to prepare their sermons, with ChatGPT and Grammarly reported as the top two AI tools, new survey data shows.

"ChatGPT is the most visible generative AI tool that can engage in human-like conversations and assist with a wide range of tasks, from answering questions to generating content," researchers wrote in "The 2025 State of AI in the Church Survey Report" prepared by AiForChurchLeaders.comand Exponential AI NEXT.

“As the most popular AI tool among church leaders (26%), ChatGPT is being used for applications such as sermon preparation, research, and crafting church communications. Its versatility and ease of use make it a powerful asset for streamlining ministry work and sparking creative ideas."

The data, based on responses from 594 pastors and church staff members, shows that church leaders are now more concerned about "the weighty ethical and practical considerations involved" in the use of AI as they continue their rapid embrace of the technology.

Continued below.
So now AI is more reliable than the Holy Spirt? Some pastors may want to revisit their calling.
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Why we are not supposed to keep the Sabbath

We rest from our works to keep the Sabbath day holy Exo20:8-11 why Jesus and the apostles were going to church Luke4:16 Acts18:4, reading the Bible Acts 13:44 Acts 15:21, praying Acts 16:13 and doing things to keep the Sabbath day holy, honoring God Isa58:13. We do not enter into the Sabbath, we keep the Sabbath, its something man does Isa56:2 , we enter into Christ rests, through faith and obedience. Those who enter His rest also cease from their works Heb4:10 as God did, on the seventh day Heb4:4 Exo20:8-11

If, by the seventh day, you mean the rest of your life, eternity in Christ, then yes.
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