Brother Del said:

No matter how far above the earth a person goes, the horizon always rises to eye level. This would not be so if the earth were a ball. Another observation.

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Apple Sky said:

I'm only quoting what Scripture says.

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You're quoting - and taking literally - the exact words of one translation of Scripture.
You're making no effort to understand what the writers meant, how they thought at the time or even the original words that were used.

Phil G said:

Stop trying to argue with God’s Word.

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I'm not but you are.

Jerry N. said:

I really didn’t mean to pick on Applesky, but I did see that post on another thread. It made me wonder what it was about. I suppose that too many negative reactions might help somebody to change their style. I just thought that a person might get a free book or something. Otherwise, I see no motivation.

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Sorry, I wasn't implying that you were picking on her, and I'm not trying to either.

If her motive is as suggested I can kind of understand it.
I joined this forum because I was ill with M.E and couldn't get to church or even out much. At a time when much had been taken from me, having people agree with, and 'like' my posts did feel like something of an achievement. Like I still had a voice and interesting/helpful things to say - pathetic, I know, but it was a difficult time.
I don't know, but it could be the same for Apple Sky.

Love old torn socks

WSPD

Strong in Him said:

Yes.
That was a reference to another thread where Apple Sky thanked another person for "really bumping her score up."

I have no idea.
@Apple Sky has certain health issues and, I gather, doesn't get out much. (Not even to church.) It might make her feel more important/that she has achieved something - I don't know.

Certainly there has to be some reason she posts threads/asks questions on the same topic again and again - even though she gets the same answers, and arguments, each time.
If it's not due to bad memory, I can see no other reason.

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I really didn’t mean to pick on Applesky, but I did see that post on another thread. It made me wonder what it was about. I suppose that too many negative reactions might help somebody to change their style. I just thought that a person might get a free book or something. Otherwise, I see no motivation.

Brother Del said:

In the multitude of words there wanteth not sin: but he that refraineth his lips is wise.
Proverbs 10:19

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A shame you didn't consider that before you decided to wade in here

Brother Del said:

I'll leave you to your echo chamber.

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I don't think you will be able to find your own echo chamber on these forums. We expect people who make claims to be able to back up those claims

Brother Del said:

I'm out gentlemen.

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Larniavc said:

Being capable of doing good makes his general mendacity even more the abhorrent.

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I'd like at least some independent verification before I believe the stories in the OP and following post actually happened. So far I've only found a woman claiming this happened to her:

Helping a distressed woman in New York: In the 1990s, Trump encountered a woman in tears near the Brooklyn Bridge who was contemplating suicide after her parents' deaths. He spent time talking her down, prayed with her, and slipped a $100 bill into her hand, which she later framed as a symbol of his compassion.

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The idea that Donald "I have nothing to repent" Trump prayed with a random suicidal woman in distress while prowling the streets near brooklyn bridge is almost as funny as the idea of Trump "slipping her" a benjamin and her framing it like Scrooge McDuck.

Jerry N. said:

Please educate me here. The reaction score seems very important to a certain person.

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Yes.
That was a reference to another thread where Apple Sky thanked another person for "really bumping her score up."

Jerry N. said:

Why? What good is it?

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I have no idea.
@Apple Sky has certain health issues and, I gather, doesn't get out much. (Not even to church.) It might make her feel more important/that she has achieved something - I don't know.

Certainly there has to be some reason she posts threads/asks questions on the same topic again and again - even though she gets the same answers, and arguments, each time.
If it's not due to bad memory, I can see no other reason.

Brother Del said:

I was honest enough to post the transliteration and the pronunciation. Nice job omitting the evidence that supported my claim.

That's not very truthful.
And laughably ironic.

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I posted the pronunciation back here. A transliteration of a word is not the word itself, and in this case doesn't reflect the phonetic spelling or pronunciation of the Hebrew word. There wasn't any evidence to omit.
If I was to say the Greek word for "lentils" out loud in polite company, people would think I was swearing, but the Greek word and what people might assume was the English word, are completely unrelated.

Strong in Him said:

Well I'll tell you something, the earth doesn't go round in circles as often as this argument does.

What's the matter, aren't we doing enough to bump up your score?

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Please educate me here. The reaction score seems very important to a certain person. Why? What good is it? I can see that it might be an indicator for the people running the forum, but I can’t see how it benefits the user.

The idea of humanism or secular ideology is that all humans are equal and there is a diverse range of different cultures and beliefs which all humans live by and are all included and acknowledge. We live together with different beliefs in a happy inclusive utopia.

That was the idea that permeated academia and the institutions. Was the foundation for a new world order that would finally bring peace and happiness.

But what ended up happening is that this divided society. You cannot have different beliefs with sometimes opposing and conflicting beliefs exist in the same society. Itherwise you have to put a harness of someones beliefs when they conflict with anothers. You have to side with one over the other.

We managed to get away with this plurity of beliefs for a while. Belief remained on the sidelines and politics was divorced from belief and morals. But now the political has become the personal different beliefs are clashing and it becomes a matter of life and death.

A different belief is no longer just one belief of many that is accepted. Its now seen as a threat to ones self identity in the world and ultimate its a matter of existence. Of the right to exist and express those beliefs. So one side has to give way. It seems thats God and Christianity.

The inevitable and logical conclusion is that Christ and Christianity becomes a threat to the ideological beliefs of the world and the world is winning. Whhen it comes to push and shove if Christianity gets in the way then it will be attacked as being a threat to the new world order.

Brother Del said:

Strong in Him seems like a rather bold name for such a fragile person.

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I thought you were all about not name calling and disparaging people.

Brother Del said:

Let me guess, you put your faith in Big Pharma too, all vaxxed up, maxx boosted?

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and here come the logical fallacies.

MOD HAT ON!

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Brother Del said:

I have not disparaged anyone's views.

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Your first post in this thread was to disparage the heliocentric model and imply those who accept it as being deceived.

Brother Del said:

Neither have I been rude or insulting.

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It is rude and insulting to jump into the middle of a thread and make claims that have already been dealt with in the same thread.

Brother Del said:

You seem to think its fine to insult people and call them names when they disagree with you, and then get all excited when they respond in a similar fashion.

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Where have I insulted you or called you names?

Brother Del said:

I don't think you are deceived, I'm certain of it.

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So why can't you respond to any of the points I've raised?

Brother Del said:

And you are just as certain that I am deluded and in danger losing my salvation, which is a bridge too far for me.

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Making false claims is not of the Holy Spirit. Draw your own conclusions.

Brother Del said:

We can be polite, we can agree to disagree. Or you can continue being hostile and be ignored.

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You can try and respond to points I've raised regarding your false claims,

Brother Del said:

A very wise man once said, "always assume the person you are talking to knows something you don't, it makes for much better conversation, and you just might learn something"

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So what have you assumed about me?

Brother Del said:

This seems to be an almost existential issue for you, you should maybe meditate on that a bit.

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Truth is existential. I always find people making baseless claims to be annoying.