One of the problems people can have with studying the bible is trying to make everything fit to apply to us today/ The Word of Faith people try to make the promises to Israel of prosperity apply. The Charismatics try to make the spiritual gifts of the early church apply. Some even try to make the kingdom promises Jesus gave his disciples all apply to us today.

For greater clarity we might look to the writings of the Apostle to the gentiles, Paul. It is pretty obvious that Paul had a different gospel than Peter. Perhaps most significantly those of Israel had to endure to the end for their salvation while those in the body of Christ already have their eternal life.

Gal 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

You may be right Mari17. The narcissism could be some of the ocd. As far as the pain meds I feel I began to use them for the wrong reason. Sure I would have a surgery and need them but I would continue to use them for psychological reasons and not for pain. I felt I was was choosing my flesh over what God wanted or expected. I feel that I hardened my heart through that and God had just had enough and it put me beyond repentance. I wonder if choosing my flesh was rejecting Christ. I never felt I was but the more I read I wonder if Jesus looked at it that way. No one really knows but God.

Coolerranch said:

Hi, I don't know how often I'll be able to post on here but I wanted to be able try and see if there could be a discussion about how genuine Christianity fits into different media and if the media fails to why it does. I think it might be a good idea for people to hopefully find such discussions on the internet with honesty and clarity.

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Stopped_lurking said:

This must do wonders for the moral among admirals and generals.

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Them that's left post-purge.

Oompa Loompa said:

Let him speak for himself. His answer seemed pretty clear to me. "It looks like a human, but who am I to judge."

Correct. Just like a transgender woman is a man with a bunch of weird looking body mods.

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What's different between you and me is that I don't consider a female body "weird looking".

If we truly love God, then we will obey "Every word" that proceeds out of his mouth (Matthew 4:4). Baptism is one of those words. In order to be baptized, certain events must take place: You must repent, give up a lifestyle where sin has dominion, (ruler ship) over you. Sin according to 1 John 3:4, Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression (breaking) of the law. You must be taught "The Word", before you can adhere to God's commandments (judgments\statues). These laws are found in the Holy Bible; beginning with Genesis and ending with Revelation. You must believe what the bible says and finally, you must confess that Jesus is Lord.

Once this has been accomplished, you are qualified to be baptized in the name of Jesus.

"And he said unto them, go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." (Mark 16:15-16).

"And all the people that heard him, and the publicans, justified God, being baptized with the baptism of John. But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him." (Luke 7:29-30). People, if you are in a position to be baptized, why reject the counsel of God? Rejecting God's counsel will get you eternal life in the burning flames (lake of fire) with the scribes and Pharisees. "For I say unto you, that except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, Ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 5: 20).

Anyone that is not baptized is a person with their sins yet upon them, because it is the baptism that washes away our past sins. "And now why tarriest thou? Arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord." (Acts 22:16): Remember, before his crucifixion, Jesus told his disciples that his time (death) is not yet come; He also informed them that their time (death) can come at any moment.

Oompa Loompa said:

Let him speak for himself. His answer seemed pretty clear to me. "It looks like a human, but who am I to judge."

Correct. Just like a transgender woman is a man with a bunch of weird looking body mods.

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Oh, so what it is, is that you just didn't like his ironic answer. LOL!

Matthew 25:31-46 tells it all that there is an everlasting punishment for the unsaved ( KJV, NKJV) in verse 46.


46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.



While a Christian should know salvation by grace by grace ( Ephesians 2:8-10),at least pray for evangelism ( Matthew 9:36-38) & pray for all ( Timothy 2:1-6). The commandments guide us in this ( Matthew 22:36-40, Matthew 7:12, Matthew 19:16-19 etc.).

We should have hope for others in our prayers ( 1 Corinthians 13:12-13, per 1 Corinthians 13:1-13). There are those the Lord knows & we do not ( Psalm 15:1-5, Ezekiel 18:4-9, Romans 2:1-16).

Say it aint so said:

White House says admiral approved second deadly boat strike​

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The White House on Monday confirmed a second strike in September had killed wounded civilians after the first effort failed, and put responsibility largely on the naval commander leading the mission.​

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Spokesperson Karoline Leavitt said U.S. Special Operations Command head Adm. Frank Bradley was “within his authority and the law” in conducting the second strike on alleged drug traffickers in the Caribbean, after the force of the first strike tossed them from the boat.​

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I was listening to Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling last night. There are some here who may be currently in, or were in the military who can confirm this. Hertling was saying the code training literally uses as the example of shooting of survivors in the water as an illegal act. Not him but me, but I kind of remember soldiers of other nations being brought to trial and executed for those such acts. Feel free to correct me if I am misremembering.

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That only happens when you lose a war.

Also, apparently they were narco-terrorists and thus had lost all their human rights.

Richard T said:

Yes, we should have known the boat strikes themselves are questionable as well as the use of U.S. Military to fight crime inside of America. So the idea that all the occupants of the boats are hardcore cartel members seems untrue. Criminals yes, but capital punishment seems quite harsh to me. To gun them down after an initial strike is the far worse crime.

There is a good article in the Wall Street Journal of how the drug boats,(called "go fasts." operate out of Columbia. (Here is the teaser, but it is behind a paywall).

https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/deliver-or-die-inside-the-drug-boat-crews-ferrying-cocaine-to-the-u-s-590657eb?mod=world_trendingnow_article_pos3

The most basic way to ship includes a Pilot (Captain) some helpers and one representative from the drug shipper. The pilots often are former fishermen and know the waters really well. The interview with one of the workers suggested that they got 10k in cash for delivery. He acknowledged that some boats were being blown up but said he would probably do it again for 13k. "Crew members like the 29-year-old are more like freelancers—young men recruited for a job." The pilot makes the most money. No one seemed to think that the boats blowing up would slow the drug business down. That they would accept loads and do it as a sort of job.

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Clearly none of that justifies the actions taken by the US. You just can't claim war against some outfit without some kind of concrete war is the only recourse as justification. There was a justification written by the White house lawyers. What info did they rely on? Trump's claims about the cartels.This stuff is bonkers.

The memo, which was completed in late summer, is said to open with a lengthy recitation of claims submitted by the White House, including that drug cartels are intentionally trying to kill Americans and destabilize the Western Hemisphere.

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RDKirk said:

There are areas of the forum open to explicit non-Christians.

And to those who have a misunderstanding of what being a follower of Christ means.

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From some of the responses in this forum one would think it means blowing up the survivors of the boat strike in the water.

Say it aint so said:

Maybe I have a misunderstanding of what a follower of Christ means.

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There are areas of the forum open to explicit non-Christians.

And to those who have a misunderstanding of what being a follower of Christ means.

Servus said:

There must have been a glitch. When I clicked on the "this report" link I got a Yahoo article. Now I'm getting a report.

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It was the NYPost's article that had the report linked to it. I changed it the actual report to make it easier.

Servus said:

Is there solid evidence of that?

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Solid evidence that Hegseth attributed the order to Admiral Bradley?

JulieB67 said:

We are still talking in the future tense here. We have to remember this revelation is being revealed to us. Judgement Day has not arrived and the new heaven and earth are not in place as of yet. So he is just reiterating these two facts. And we see what happens to the former at Judgement Day.

Revelation 22:14 "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."

Revelation 22:15 "For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie."

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All of the book of revelation is in the future. I’m not sure what you are saying here but I you used the book of revelation to attempt to prove your point but when I use it you object?

Also, what bible translation are you using?

Rev. 22:14 reads in Greek: μακάριοι οἱ πλύνοντες τὰς στολὰςαὐτῶν ἵνα ἔσται ἡ ἐξουσία αὐτῶν ἐπὶ τὸ ξύλοντῆς ζωῆς καὶ τοῖς πυλῶσιν εἰσέλθωσιν εἰς τὴνπόλιν

In English it should read: Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they will have the right to the tree of life, and may enter the city by the gates.

The word commandment does not appear in the Greek.

JulieB67 said:

We have to continue to take the bible as a whole. When we do, it's always been life or death.

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I was trying but apparently only you can lol

JulieB67 said:

In the context it is given as destroying both body and soul, the definition is clear. As are all of the other verses that pair it with life. It's not life or ruination in hell. You are inserting that both have eternal life in all of these verses and that's not the case and that's not what's written.

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What context? You can’t cite context when you are not recognizing other definitions and interpretations. Is called exegesis.

JulieB67 said:

Hey, I was taught the same as you've been taught but upon study, it's not there when we take the bible as a whole. And it's also not in the nature of God, who doesn't even want anyone to die. And when we know this fact, we can reasonably know he's not going to burn someone for an eternity. He's going to destroy them in the Lake of Fire and then go on with the new heaven and earth.

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Then you drank the kool aid because to sin against an infinite being requires an infinite punishment. The good news is that for those that believe in Christ redemptive sacrifice they have been justified and the punishment mitigated.

iluvatar5150 said:

It is? It sounds like every call for revival and evangelism that I've ever heard. I guess that could be considered aggressive, but that strikes me as an odd thing for a Christian to throw shade at

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That's nice. But I'm not an Evangelical, and I'm not discussing Evangelical Christianity... So.

Show me that modern day Jews are descendants of Abraham and we’ll take it from there.

iluvatar5150 said:

Perhaps, but it wasn't the CHIPS Act that cause NVDA to skyrocket; it was the AI boom.

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iluvatar5150 said:

I don't know enough about it to have an opinion. Maybe there's something there.; maybe there isn't. I don't have any interest in defending her if there is, but I also don't take your sites' claims at face value.

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Cool so i wont take your sites' claims at face value and we'll walk into the sun

durangodawood said:

How did I miss this part.

Cal actually has some of the very best STEM programs in the whole country. Across the board. It is widely known for those - unless your only source of knowledge in this world is recent culture wars axe grinders. Between faculty and alums, the list of Nobel prize winners is ridiculous.

For sure Berkeley (town and U) has a certain radical subculture. But the other 90+% is just doing normal college stuff at a high level.

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It has always been that way. Marxist professors and all. I was there in the '60s, not at Cal, but another college nearby, took some courses there, and the whole time most of the students in Berkely were buckled down to the business of just getting degrees. I think that's true of all the universities that Trump accuses of woke activism. How many students of, say, Harvard Business School are really under the thumb of CRT? Or even Harvard Law where it originated?

another_lost_guy said:

The speaker of the house will always have a better insight on the passing of an act than you or me. Totally immoral to trade individual stocks when an act worth over a QUARTER TRILLION dollars affects the exact stocks you're trading.

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Perhaps, but it wasn't the CHIPS Act that cause NVDA to skyrocket; it was the AI boom.

another_lost_guy said:

Care to comment on that 2008 visa thing or are we sweepin dat under the rug

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I don't know enough about it to have an opinion. Maybe there's something there.; maybe there isn't. I don't have any interest in defending her if there is, but I also don't take your sites' claims at face value.

JosephZ said:

The 1971 bombing was carried out by the Weather Underground, she wasn't associated with that group. She was associated with the group that splintered off from the Weather Underground, which carried out a bombing at the Capitol in 1983, but even then, she wasn't found to be directly involved.

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Oopsies. Man what a psycho girl though. Crazy that there were multiple leftist bombings of the capitol. I was never taught about that in school but I am willing to bet school will indoctrinate kids about January 6th in the future as if it were some national tragedy.

comana said:

What benefit have the tariffs produced?

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iluvatar5150 said:

Nothing on pelositracker.app suggests anything untowards.

The CHIPS Act was signed on Aug 9, 2022 and had existed in earlier incarnations since at least 2019. Its passage was not a secret.

According to the tracker, in the 13 months prior to its passage, she made 5 transaction on NVDA: two purchasing options, two purchasing stock, and one selling stock, in that order. With the value ranges being as broad as they are, it's possible that she sold all of her stock prior to its passage. Regardless of how much she sold at that point, it would have been for a net loss since the price had dropped a bit over that year.

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The speaker of the house will always have a better insight on the passing of an act than you or me. Totally immoral to trade individual stocks when an act worth over a QUARTER TRILLION dollars affects the exact stocks you're trading. Care to comment on that 2008 visa thing or are we sweepin dat under the rug

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It's unfortunate that conservatives' standards for evidence are so low that unsourced numbers on a blog are good enough for you all.

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The key to happiness is low expectations

iluvatar5150 said:

It was fake news. That was what I pointed in the other thread.

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