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A2SG · 2025-11-26T23:23:31-0600

RileyG said:
I only mentioned him based on a website I seen from an ex-trans person. This website is very critical of gender ideology based on her own research and lived experience.

So a biased source. Got it.

See, I went right to the person herself, and she tells a different story. Gee, I wonder which one knows Jazz better?

RileyG said:
If anything, with regards to Jennings, his mother is the one calling the shots. I don’t want to derail this thread, but I very much see him as a victim of narcissistic abuse.

Then maybe you should listen to her, let her speak for herself.

RileyG said:
From everything I’ve seen, it’s beyond disturbing.

And no, I will never call a male a “she,” no matter how much he screams and demands.

Hey, you have the right to be as rude and dismissive of other people as you like.

-- A2SG, and as we move into December, this subject may come up again when some strident religious types complain about stores wishing them a Happy Holiday....

RileyG · 2025-11-26T23:22:37-0600

Stopped_lurking said:
Yeah, but until we live utopia, we have politics and legislation.

Regardless, it has nothing to do with education so it doesn’t need to be discussed in schools.

RileyG · 2025-11-26T23:22:04-0600

Stopped_lurking said:
If you don't agree with using affirmative care as their therapeutic solution, what therapy should they be offered?

What’s wrong with talk therapy and SSRI’s? Or even DBT/radical acceptance?

RileyG · 2025-11-26T23:20:30-0600

A2SG said:
As I've said, I've never heard of any such cases. Ever. And I am extremely dubious of that claim. So feel free to provide documentation if you can, and I'll consider it.

-- A2SG, but if your information comes from the same source as your information on Jazz Jennings, well, let's just say it doesn't look promising....

There is. It’s happening. I cannot post the link, but it’s very common. Especially among many girls who now transition because they had a friend that did (peer pressure) or a controlling mother.

I only wish Jennings the best. No young boy deserves to go through what he did. It’s sickening.

RileyG · 2025-11-26T23:18:33-0600

A2SG said:
Seems she disagrees with your assessment.

From her Facebook page:

My story is valid. My identity is real. And my family has been by my side every step of the way

It’s heartbreaking to see people try to rewrite my journey, turning my truth into a false narrative of abuse and confusion. But let me be clear: gender is not binary, and all identities are valid.The constant attempts to erase trans people while simultaneously trying to define our experiences for us are beyond exhausting. Our existence should never be questioned, yet here we are facing a world that continues to debate our right to simply be.No matter what policies or opinions say, I know who I am. And I will always stand proud with my community and family by my side.

I know times are tough for so many right now, but we must stick together and stay true to our authentic selves. If you call yourself an ally, now is the time to show up—loudly, proudly, and unwaveringly. We need you. Much love, and stay strong

#transgender #iamjazz

I have no idea where you got your information, but perhaps getting that from other people isn't the best strategy. Just sayin'.

I'm sure she has other issues (who doesn't?), but being trans doesn't seem to be the root of them, according to her.

-- A2SG, and who would know better?

I only mentioned him based on a website I seen from an ex-trans person. This website is very critical of gender ideology based on her own research and lived experience.

If anything, with regards to Jennings, his mother is the one calling the shots. I don’t want to derail this thread, but I very much see him as a victim of narcissistic abuse.

From everything I’ve seen, it’s beyond disturbing.

And no, I will never call a male a “she,” no matter how much he screams and demands.

rjs330 · 2025-11-26T23:15:34-0600

iluvatar5150 said:
If he didn't bring inflation down, then he didn't reduce costs. If he did bring inflation down from what it otherwise would've been, I think it's fair to say that he reduced costs.

We'll see what happens if he brings it below Bidens last rates if you are genuine or not. Democrats sure didn't seem thar way before. Remember egg prices? Now that inflation is lower I don't see people saying he brought the cost of eggs down. In March Democrats were still complaining how he hasn't brought prices down when the rate was 2.5%. So pardon me it'll I'm skeptical.

iluvatar5150 said:
I can't get the idea?

No you can't.

A2SG · 2025-11-26T23:15:00-0600

RileyG said:
Literally. There’s plenty of cases. Search at your own discretion. It’s beyond depressing.

As I've said, I've never heard of any such cases. Ever. And I am extremely dubious of that claim. So feel free to provide documentation if you can, and I'll consider it.

-- A2SG, but if your information comes from the same source as your information on Jazz Jennings, well, let's just say it doesn't look promising....

A2SG · 2025-11-26T23:11:19-0600

RileyG said:
Actually, it has happened in minors.

Jazz Jennings (real name Jaron Bloshinsky) received sex change surgery at age 17.

Now he is experiencing a binge eating disorder, multiple meltdowns, has no sexual function or arousal, and will never experience a normal sexual relationship because he was his parents “experiment.” His fertility, puberty, and health was exchanged for fame and fortune.

Shame on his parents!

Seems she disagrees with your assessment.

From her Facebook page:

My story is valid. My identity is real. And my family has been by my side every step of the way

It’s heartbreaking to see people try to rewrite my journey, turning my truth into a false narrative of abuse and confusion. But let me be clear: gender is not binary, and all identities are valid.The constant attempts to erase trans people while simultaneously trying to define our experiences for us are beyond exhausting. Our existence should never be questioned, yet here we are facing a world that continues to debate our right to simply be.No matter what policies or opinions say, I know who I am. And I will always stand proud with my community and family by my side.

I know times are tough for so many right now, but we must stick together and stay true to our authentic selves. If you call yourself an ally, now is the time to show up—loudly, proudly, and unwaveringly. We need you. Much love, and stay strong

#transgender #iamjazz

I have no idea where you got your information, but perhaps getting that from other people isn't the best strategy. Just sayin'.

I'm sure she has other issues (who doesn't?), but being trans doesn't seem to be the root of them, according to her.

-- A2SG, and who would know better?

JSRG · 2025-11-26T23:08:00-0600

Vambram said:
I see Comey’s lie right there in that article and I heard his lie while testifying to the Senate.

Despite the fact you claim to "see" it, you seem unable to actually identify it, for if you did surely you would explain it. Instead you simply respond with nothing more than the message I just quoted in which you avoid actually answering the question.

Once again, as the article notes:

Here the specific text of the question Comey answered in his testimony matters a lot—for a number of reasons. Grassley asked Comey: “have you ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation” (emphasis added).

It is thus not adequate for proof that Comey made a false statement for the government to show that Richman interfaced with reporters on Comey’s behalf. That fact has never been a secret (Richman did much of this work in the open and on a named basis), and Comey has never denied it. In fact, it was Comey who dramatically announced Richman’s role in Senate testimony that the brief later quotes (see pages 10-11).

Rather, to prove that Comey lied, the government has to show (a) that Richman was “at the FBI” at the time; (b) that Comey “authorized” the press contact; (c) that he authorized Richman to do the contact anonymously; and (d) that the contact concerned the Trump or Clinton investigation.

The government's brief had a lot of words, but ultimately, as the article notes after going through all of it, none of it appeared able to point to any example of when Comey authorized Richman to anonymously contact the press about the Trump or Clinton investigation while Richman was at the FBI.

So, for example:

The next paragraph (page 8) is where things really go off the rails. “Mr. Richman also corresponded with Reporter 1 via text message shortly after the defendant’s termination as FBI Director. Over a period of days beginning on May 11, 2017, the pair texted,” the government alleges and follows with a string of texts between Schmidt and Richman in which Richman does, in fact, appear to be waiting for authorization to speak to Schmidt as an unnamed source.

But there’s a problem with using this exchange to prove Comey a liar for his May 3, 2017, testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee. It took place a week after that testimony, when Comey was no longer FBI director and when Richman was thus no longer in any conceivable sense “at the FBI” (having resigned) as an adviser to the director (who had been fired). By this time, Richman was part of Comey’s legal team. And what’s more, none of the communications between Richman and Schmidt even plausibly regard stories about the Clinton investigation. Instead, their exchanges concern Schmidt’s reporting about a variety of other topics, including Comey’s forthcoming public testimony before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the investigation of Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser.

And the same sort of thing applies to it looks like everything else that supposedly shows he lied. So, once again, as it concludes:

And that is all there is. You can pore over this brief all day long, and you won’t find anything else suggesting that Comey’s Senate testimony on May 3, 2017, was false—or that his standing by that testimony five years less three days before his indictment was false.

All of which raises the question: Where’s the lie?

I was wondering if maybe I was overlooking something, but it appears both you and the government are either unable or unwilling to give a real answer to the question.

Though I should point out once again that even if the government's case against Comey was actually strong, it still would have nothing to do with whether Halligan was properly appointed or not, which is what the dismissal was about.

RileyG · 2025-11-26T23:07:17-0600

rjs330 said:
No, they should receive intensive therapy until they are 18. Not affirmative care.

Yup! Reduce harm. Doing irreversible surgery to minors who may be going through a phase is just unforgivable! Let them live their lives in peace!

another_lost_guy · 2025-11-26T23:06:54-0600

Also, the closest thing we got to a real Christian presidential ticket was Ye24.

rjs330 · 2025-11-26T23:05:23-0600

Stopped_lurking said:
Are schools are forcing gender affirming care on any minors? Trans persons exists in society, as such schools have talk about them. Many societies have laws and regulations that forbid discrimination based on gender identity, that includes schools in many cases. What do you mean when you say leave minors out of it?

Does that mean that a gender diverse kid shouldn't get care?

No, they should receive intensive therapy until they are 18. Not affirmative care.

RileyG · 2025-11-26T23:04:04-0600

rjs330 said:
Stop putting out unreliable information. No one really knows the regret rate. Putting out garbage information only reinforces false belief systems.

This. Only time will tell.

RileyG · 2025-11-26T23:03:47-0600

Stopped_lurking said:
I guess we differ there, to me at least the school has an obligation to the students to explain phenomena in society. LGBTQ people exists, they are discussed in the news, there are laws governing society's view regarding them, they have rights that protect them from discrimination in many states and countries. They were a persecuted group in history (in some places even today). So if discussions of other civil rights and their histories have a place in schools then the discussions about the rights of LGBTQ people should also have a place in school.

If you add to that, depending on legislation, the school might have an obligation to protect LGBTQ students and staff. They have to make clear that being LGBTQ is not a valid ground for discrimination. How would the school get around to explain that without talking about them. There is also a good thing that the schools are an example that many views exists in society that might or might not be at odds with the views of the parents. The parents view is not Truth™.

Yes, we should protect them without approving of a specific agenda. Treat everyone right, doesn’t mean any school should endorse or approve of an alternate lifestyle, especially one filled with so much risk.

Or people can just treat people right without caring what people choose to do with their lives.

rjs330 · 2025-11-26T23:03:32-0600

rambot said:
Your use of the phrase "suicide stats" is really vague as it's split into ideation, attempt and successful attempt. Generally, these all follow the same pattern from what I've seen but not always.
That said, a lot of the studies I've skimmed are comparing post op suicide attempts with the GENERAL population and I gotta say right off the bat, that is NOT an apprpriate comparision.
All of the stats you are quoting above is PRE-op. The link you provided didn't actually refer to "Gender affirming care" just "Gender minorities getting treatment and gender minorities with disabilities [nonspecified]. It cannot be deduced that the article was referring to "post op" individuals but seems to be referring to 'preop" phrase of their transition. Maybe I missed it?

The suicide ideation rate pre-op is 40% in trans kiddos (has has been consistent with the 4 trans people I've worked with (not really...they all had suicidal ideation).

So ....unbelievably shocking, that is somehow an improvement.

What is so utterly and completely baffling is that the regret rate for these surgeries is just, unbelievably low compared to so many other kinds of surgeries.

If this regret rate is low (and it's undeniably low), then one has to wonder if the surgery remains the problem 10 years later or if, perhaps their own belief or treatment and lack of acceptance in their society would continue to make them feel ostracized, alone and suicidal (paraphrasing a study that noted this as the likely reason).

Stop putting out unreliable information. No one really knows the regret rate. Putting out garbage information only reinforces false belief systems.

RileyG · 2025-11-26T23:01:37-0600

rjs330 said:
There is no reliable evidence that it reduces suicide rates.

If anything, the hormones make it worse.

Children are NOT guinea pigs!

They have a right to their bodies, sexual health, and normal puberty! Period!

another_lost_guy · 2025-11-26T23:01:25-0600

Hvizsgyak said:
Oh, what a "brilliant" connection! You aren't even in the same ballpark with that answer. Here I'll give you the initials to the political party, ASP. Please stop trying to use unnecessary labels like groyperism for shock points.

American Solidarity Party? I've never heard of it before. I guess it seems cool but I still stand by what I said. Homosexuality is not worth conserving. That's socially liberal. And from what I'm seeing off Wikipedia the groypers have done more to advance this party's movement more than this party despite groyperism being a younger movement. The only noticeable difference I see is the issue of immigration. And I'm not saying this to make fun of either party, it just seems like you get more mileage out of your support by supporting the groypers

Belk · 2025-11-26T23:00:47-0600

Postvieww said:
Many current and former former military men and women have figured out what these disgraceful six were trying to do and have called them out. Not my problem if you can’t figure it out.

I'm former military and I think it is bunk. You seem unable to articulate the reasoning of why I should find it to be "undermining the Commander in Chief". If you can't even explain the reasoning you have no case.

rjs330 · 2025-11-26T23:00:19-0600

Say it aint so said:
Now suppose the implementation of those gender affirming actions reduce suicide rates.
If it does, is there more empathic value in that or just get rid of them regardless?

There is no reliable evidence that it reduces suicide rates.

GodDoesListen55 · 2025-11-26T23:00:15-0600

Shrek.

RileyG · 2025-11-26T22:59:59-0600

A2SG said:
So some say. But I've yet to hear of an actual, documented case where a stranger walked up to a random kid and said "Hey, kid...you're transgender now. Let's go get you some surgery!"

Stuff like that doesn't happen.

-- A2SG, except in the minds of some really weird paranoid types.....

Literally. There’s plenty of cases. Search at your own discretion. It’s beyond depressing.

RileyG · 2025-11-26T22:59:26-0600

A2SG said:
That's exactly what happens. No legitimate medical professional would recommend, let alone perform, surgery as the first option.

Surgery is not performed on minors. And for the very few adolescents (usually aged 15-17) who do get gender affirming surgery, in the vast majority of cases, it's top surgery, which would not compromise sexual function or fertility at all.

So your worries are unwarranted.

-- A2SG, doesn't that make you feel better?

Actually, it has happened in minors.

Jazz Jennings (real name Jaron Bloshinsky) received sex change surgery at age 17.

Now he is experiencing a binge eating disorder, multiple meltdowns, has no sexual function or arousal, and will never experience a normal sexual relationship because he was his parents “experiment.” His fertility, puberty, and health was exchanged for fame and fortune.

Shame on his parents!

A2SG · 2025-11-26T22:58:02-0600

RileyG said:
No. It’s been happening.

So some say. But I've yet to hear of an actual, documented case where a stranger walked up to a random kid and said "Hey, kid...you're transgender now. Let's go get you some surgery!"

Stuff like that doesn't happen.

-- A2SG, except in the minds of some really weird paranoid types.....

A2SG · 2025-11-26T22:54:52-0600

RileyG said:
Yes. Help such as talk therapy and SSRI’s, and social support.

That's exactly what happens. No legitimate medical professional would recommend, let alone perform, surgery as the first option.

RileyG said:
Compromising a minor’s sexual function and fertility so early on in life is flat out cruel, especially if they’re going trough a phase.

Surgery is not performed on minors. And for the very few adolescents (usually aged 15-17) who do get gender affirming surgery, in the vast majority of cases, it's top surgery, which would not compromise sexual function or fertility at all.

So your worries are unwarranted.

-- A2SG, doesn't that make you feel better?

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