Strong in Him said:

Which can't mean anyone who is wise, as Jesus, himself, had wisdom.

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I believe that Jesus created Wisdom before creating anything else.

In men's eyes, whatever is held in high esteem (like so-called wisdom) , God calls an abomination; thus God is well-please to hide everything about salvation from those who are 'educated the flesh.

The apostle chosen to preach to the gentiles, renounced his education which was more than any other known human, and considered it lower than dung! (or less politely lower than woman's bloody rags) , as written in the inspired Scripture.

Kathleen30 said:

Keres it’s an interesting perspective depending when the resurrection of the living and the dead occurs I guess . Would God tolerate any unregenerate humanity in his new heavens and new earth ?. Anyway i keep in mind what you say

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There is no indication in @keras that anyone unregenerate ever may see the Kingdom of heaven , nor the new earth.

It is not a question of God tolerating it - Simply His Word Says Clearly all unforgiven, unregenerate sinners are dispatched without options to the lake of fire , or other judgment in harmony with God's Word and Plan.

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Well, I did tell you that date settling has just started, and we should expect more of this in the future. That comment has aged well. ^^

But no worries, this planet is still in the end times, get your sun-cream ready. xD Severe burns are on the way.

(may transfer to some other section if desired; no sense or purpose in this section if not wanted)

eclipsenow said:

It's not in the theology section or asking in particular emphasis what the "Christian" approach to this scientific subject is.

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I see no biblical mandate for assuming we are protected from our own actions. Sure - generally speaking - we are to "seek first his kingdom" and all this will be given us.

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:k "all this will be given us." ----- it is sure and certainly in the Bible even if someone does not see it yet.
and the promise is not that anything (except sorrow and grief and pain and punishment)
will be given anyone who seeks answers in the flesh/science.

Note that God says He Himself curses anyone, including His followers, if they put trust in the flesh.

The remedy, the salvation, from all things harmful, is Jesus, as written in the Bible. Science usually harms, so it is awkward trying to exclude Jesus from an answer to the multitude of problems caused by what is falsely called knowledge/science. Humans overall are not trained in what is good or right or truth.

Benaiah468 said:

Those who finance the murderers of Jews with millions in payments cannot guarantee Israel's right to exist.

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That is not a valid source - but feels more like a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.
It's also not that credible given the numbers involved.
Hamas committed an awful act - far beyond anything the French resistance did.

Yet Israel are still today's NAZIs when one considers the DECADES of operating internment camp ghettos and persecution.

67,000 dead - 18,000 children.

How dare they!

Jesus Saves from all things harmful, not just from sin.

The mind set simply on Jesus, is kept by Jesus in perfect peace.

Humans do not usually tell of this, nor learn of this, nor experience this, since the enemy has more widespread advocates than Jesus does.

Aaron112 said:

Many worries then....... might try reading Psalms and asking the Creator if He Would Grant Understanding ? in any case, trust Him.

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I'm not sure if you get the purpose of this particular forum or thread. It's not in the theology section or asking in particular emphasis what the "Christian" approach to this scientific subject is. If you have any particular theological questions about it - please ask in maybe the Christian Theology, Philosophy & Ethics forum - and PM me to let me know you created a different thread - and I'll respond there.

Otherwise I understand this to be the science forum, where we have a more practical focus on the science of the subject - and what - if anything - we can do about it.

Robban said:

What does it help if I gain the whole world but forfeit my soul.

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webpage not video on how profiteering ruined american health care possibility. It is insane!
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or
watch how and why 10,000 humans died (after the war was over) from eating normal food - their stomachs were so shriveled from not having a meal in years, when they got free by the allies, when they ate 'regular' human food, their stomachs tore or ripped open .....
The documentary The Long Way Home, released in 1997, focuses on the experiences of Holocaust survivors in displaced persons (DP) camps following World War II.

keras said:

After Jesus Returns; Rev 19:11 ......He commences His Millennium reign. when Jesus completes the thousand years, He will hand the Kingdom back to the Father God, 1 Corinthians 15:24 Then comes Eternity.

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Keres it’s an interesting perspective depending when the resurrection of the living and the dead occurs I guess . Would God tolerate any unregenerate humanity in his new heavens and new earth ?. Anyway i keep in mind what you say

NxNW said:

As usual, gold and silver are the ones crashing, because they are terrible investments.

Gold, silver tumble in biggest daily drop in years
Gold (GC=F) and silver (SI=F) prices tumbled in their biggest daily drops in years as stunning rally in precious metals came to a halt. Spot gold dropped as much as 6.3% to just under $4,100 per troy ounce, its largest intraday drop since 2013. Silver also tumbled more than 8% in its worst day since 2021.

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After such a sharp rise, a pull back should be expected.

With the weakening dollar, with teetering on a dot com bust, with teetering on a office building bust, and the potential for that to cause bank failures, and rising tensions of war worldwide, I expect to see continued investment in the safe haven of monetary metals.

If the price keeps dropping; it presents greater opportunities to buy more.

Strange that the Corpratocracy media haven't been reporting as these metals have been sharply ascending. I suppose that they were helping the bankers keep this on the hush, as they were quietly buying it up en masse.

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January 6 occurred after the biggest censorship of American citizens by the US government and tech companies such that America - even the world - has never seen. The level was massive scale censorship by the government to favor the Dem Candidate.
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When you need to deprive - and I mean deprive - conservatives of their constitutional right to engage in political discourse - censoring actual citizens in every possible way a person can be censored in our modern day, then you lost before you began.

The sheer volume of advertising costs - because make no mistakes it's billions in advertising when tech companies are working as the mouth pieces of the Democratic party and censorsing everything a conservative might say so people only hear one side before an election...

That was billions of dollars worth of in kind campaign contributions and free advertising not given to the other side of the aisle.

They violated every law in every possible way in order to win the election.

That's a stolen election, stolen from the American people and I'm still mad I was censored and cancelled. So no.... Nothing like J6.

No Republican did that. No, it was Democrats depriving us of our right to free speech in an election. The right side of the aisle still has every right to be angry because the censorship of American citizens is still largely unaddressed.

That arty is crooked and has zero respect for the constitution or our rights - and they have no issues missing the power of the US government to gain power.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah....we've heard all the conspiracy theories, no need to rehash them again.

-- A2SG, they weren't credible to begin with, and they've not gotten any better over time....

A2SG said:

Yep, that's a very good assessment of the events that occurred on January 6.

-- A2SG, straight and to the point....

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January 6 occurred after the biggest censorship of American citizens by the US government and tech companies such that America - even the world - has never seen. The level was massive scale censorship by the government to favor the Dem Candidate.
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When you need to deprive - and I mean deprive - conservatives of their constitutional right to engage in political discourse - censoring actual citizens in every possible way a person can be censored in our modern day, then you lost before you began.

The sheer volume of advertising costs - because make no mistakes it's billions in advertising when tech companies are working as the mouth pieces of the Democratic party and censorsing everything a conservative might say so people only hear one side before an election...

That was billions of dollars worth of in kind campaign contributions and free advertising not given to the other side of the aisle.

They violated every law in every possible way in order to win the election.

That's a stolen election, stolen from the American people and I'm still mad I was censored and cancelled. So no.... Nothing like J6.

No Republican did that. No, it was Democrats depriving us of our right to free speech in an election. The right side of the aisle still has every right to be angry because the censorship of American citizens is still largely unaddressed.

That party is crooked to the bone and has zero respect for the constitution or our rights - and they have no issues misusing the power of the US government to gain more power.

People on Jan 6 were coming off the great censorship campaign, not able to trust media anymore and had just watched months of left wing violence and riots and took those frustrations to the feet of the People's House.

It wasn't right that they got out of hand, but for the amount of frustration there was, it was at least understandable and limited to one out of hand protest rather than the hundreds of violent ones we had just spent the summer watching destroy American cities brought to us by the left.

People were actually disenfranchised. They just woke up one day as second class citizens in America, and while the world maluged we conservatives, we didn't even have the right to self defense because we were censored.

Vambram said:

They are drug traffickers and they are narco terrorists.

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"Narco terrorists" is a MAGA invention.

As Tom Nicols noted today:

"The president is establishing the principle that he can order the murder of anyone he deems a threat. And Congress is letting it happen."

Jo555 said:

especially on spiritual matters like this,

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Spiritual matter? Not in this thread/ topic.

eclipsenow said:

Sorry - I need a source.

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Those who finance the murderers of Jews with millions in payments cannot guarantee Israel's right to exist.

Hentenza said:

That is true but the coast guard is authorized to use deadly force if necessary and am sure that there has been those times in the past.

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Use of deadly force is authorized if necessary (i.e. to defend Coast Guard personel).
Blowing boats out of the water with missiles from aircraft or drones is not necessary. It's a deliberate act of murder.

ChubbyCherub said:

So, which commandments does Jesus say that we must follow?

Is it the original 10 commandments, as set out in the book of Exodus, or is it the commandments Jesus talks about in the New Testament?

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When a discipled asked Jesus which is the greatest commandment, Jesus replied to love God with all your heart and to love your neighbor as yourself.

A new commandment for us to love each other as he loves us. When you look at the Ten Commandments the first four are concerning loving our Father. The next six all are concerning loving other people. So is it actually a new commandment or a shortened and more direct commandment? If we love one another we will follow those 6 of the Ten Commandments. And if we love God we will follow the first four.

ThatRobGuy said:

Trump’s Name Chanted in Israel AND Gaza After Peace Deal: ‘Nobel Prize to Trump!’

Israelis and Gazans alike celebrated into the night, chanting President Donald Trump’s name after he announced a peace deal to bring hostages home, with chants in Israel calling for him to be awarded his much-coveted Nobel Peace Prize.

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https://edition.cnn.com/2025/10/09/politics/trump-nobel-prize-analysis

(CNN)
A Washington Post-Ipsos poll last month showed even about half of Republicans said Trump didn’t deserve one. Just 22% of Americans overall said that he did.

But on Wednesday a Trump Nobel suddenly became more plausible with the announcement of a phase-one ceasefire deal in Gaza.

Much remains to be ironed out, and time will tell how successful it is. The news also didn’t seem to arrive in time for this year’s prize announcement, which happens to be Friday.

But even some nonpartisan foreign policy experts and Trump critics are starting to take the possibility more seriously, albeit for next year.

“If the peace plan moves forward, Mr. Trump may have as legitimate a claim to that Nobel as the four American presidents who have won the peace prize in the past,” longtime New York Times national security reporter David Sanger wrote, “though with less bombast and lobbying.”

And it came after Trump took some remarkable steps. His administration has made a point to build relations with Middle Eastern leaders and make them a key part of the process. And perhaps most notably, Trump has exerted an unusual amount of pressure on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

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He probably told netanyahu to have certain people chat his name.

How many US presidents has intervened with the Israelites and their wars as well as other countries and their wars?
And Trump is not the first as he boasting he is.

HIS ballroom _ sounds like you plans on staying even after the 4-year term is up.