Dan Perez said:

And your Psa 37:27-29 is talking about Israel , the righteous shall INHERIT the Land , is not for the B O C !!

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You would think, but then Jesus showed up and rained on their religious parade.
You don't accept My teaching because you are of your father the devil, John 8:43-44
If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God. John 8:42
The Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, John 5:37
God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 1 John 5:11

BCP1928 said:

So why add to it? Why demonize another group for no good reason? It only adds to the bullying.

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No one is being demonized. If you are going to accuse someone of that you should back it up.

BCP1928 said:

Yeah, but she had a choice, and knew ahead of time that there are employers who hate tats. Nobody told her that her desire to have tats could only be either pretended or the result of mental illness and that she would burn in hell for it.

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Well, we have seen people pretend to be trans. And being trans IS a mental illness. That's why people are trying to treat it. And I don't recall saying anyone who is trans is going to burn in he'll cause they are trans. Man you do throw out wild claims don't you.

keras said:

Anybody with a modicum of common sense and a logical viewpoint, can see your inference is not valid.

The hour of trial, involves the whole world, everyone dwells on earth, nowhere is it said that only the godless will be there when God sends His fiery wrath.
In fact; Revelation 13:7 and Daniel 7:25 prove that Gods holy people are present and they never leave the place we humans were made to live in.

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You don’t recognize the two groups in Rev 3:10: “You” is the word for believers. “Those” is the word for unbelievers. Only “those” are on the earth after the pre-Trib rapture. Many of “those” will be converted. They will all be martyrs for the two groups of the GM.

Rev 6:10 proves “those who dwell on the earth” are unbelievers. The ones crying out in that verse are converted unbelievers. They are the martyrs for the first group of the GM (Rev 6:11).

The saints in Rev 13:7 are converted unbelievers. They are martyred as the second group of the GM (Rev 6:11). They are resurrected in the last sentence of Rev 20:4. The GM is in Heaven in Rev 7:9-17.

You can’t disprove the facts above and below.

Acts 1:9-10 prove that Jesus ascended by Himself, and only in the view of believers (His disciples).

To fulfill Acts 1:11, Jesus will descend by Himself (1 Th 4:16), and He will descend into the view of believers, only (1 Th 4:17).

We will ascend to Jesus in 1 Th 4:17. But, we are first changed into our glorified bodies (1 Cor 15:52). We meet Jesus in air and go to Heaven (Rev 4:1).

Apple Sky said:

King James Bible
Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?

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How does God respond to everything Elihu has said to Job in chapters 32-37?

GOD in Job 38:2 said:

Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?

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I think that succinctly sums up the flat earthers approach to Scripture.

Is it a matter of mind over matter?

Grafted In said:

May I?

As a gentile, I have a deep desire to continue studying the Feast Days.
A couple of years ago I visited a church, a full gospel denomination. After talking with one of the elders, I suppose he was, and sharing my interest in them, he told me my interest was demonic.

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I would wipe the dust of that church from my feet.

YHWH calls his people out of the nations (gentiles). He calls his who seek him out to be fellow citizens of Yahsar Al (Israel).


(CLV) Eph 2:11
Wherefore, remember that once you, the nations [gentiles] in flesh—who are termed "Uncircumcision" by those termed "Circumcision," in flesh, made by hands-

Not anymore!

(CLV) Eph 2:12
that you were, in that era, apart from Christ, being alienated [gentilesr] from the citizenship of Israel, and guests of the promise covenants, having no expectation, and without God in the world.

Not anymore!

(CLV) Eph 2:19
Consequently, then, not longer are you guests (Ger Toshav) and sojourners (Ger), but are fellow-citizens of the saints and belong to God's family,

The Liturgist said:

I thought it was Archbishop Fulton Sheen? Anyway, I love watching recordings of his program on YouTube.

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You are correct. Yes, he took on many spiritual and social issues which are still quite relevant today.

HopeSings said:

People hate me because of my religious beliefs, mental illness and sin.

I'm feel despised, rejected, scorned, mocked, walked on, lorded over, disliked and hated.

I have no friends but Jesus and I'm an imperfect sinner. I repent of everything but I struggle with lustful thoughts still. I'm pretty low. I have nothing but judges and haters

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Nah, you have friends. You are just learning tough love. You may feel unworthy, but the spirit is deeper than your feelings.

I'm not trying to depreciate your negative experience. Keep the faith and you will get through it.

Dave Darling said:

Hey, a question- is the garden of eden eternal? According to the scripture it seems so, apparently it is still out there, but no one is allowed in, it is being guarded by cherubim. Apparently there will never be a return to the garden after the fall of man, this is eternal. What do you think of this?

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I personally think it ceased to exist in Adam's time--maybe even in the time of the Flood. The main point is that Adam could not return to the place where he had access to Eternal Life. It was parabolic, but it was a real place.

For my mom, her biggest thrill as a kid was the hoop and stick.
Very high tech.

Diamond7 said:

My wife had a pastor like that. Yet he was still a good pastor and she learned a lot from him. I thought people had to be believers but I guess not. Someone in a position of authority in the church told him it was ok.

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Yes, I've learned from those who teach the Scriptures, but I would never have them as primary leader, or pastor. Those who are not truly Born Again will never fully understand the Christian experience in which our nature originates from Deity.

Their "change" is purely external, coupled with a spiritual "experience." Actual change makes one not just act kind but be kind. That kindness can only come from God when He imparts it to us through the New Birth.

We can have spiritual experience with God without actually changing into His image. We need to not just have a spiritual experience, but more, a spiritual transformation into God's likeness.

To give a hypothetical example of a form of Historicism that would not conflict with the Early Church beliefs would be to see the Beast as Islam/Muhammad, and his conquest as being the empire of the beast. That'd take place after the Early Church period and be consistent with their futurist premillennial beliefs from their point of view, and to some degree it would fit.

It's still require a lot of allegory and messing with the definition of a "generation" but, Irenaeus didn't outright shoot it down like a 70AD fulfillment.

AlexB23 said:

Hey, yes, there are science deniers here, but let us not try to judge others, or call someone ignorant. Some scientists can be ignorant also, such as those who promote the trans ideology, when in fact, science itself proved in 1905 that there are only two genders (XX and XY), and not multiple ones, just as the Bible stated millennia ago.

Two genders, proven in 1905: https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/352001

Matthew 7:1-5: "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."

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There is being ignorant with regards to not knowing something as well being ignorant which generates racism, sexism, anti-intellectualism etc.
This particular individual without knowing anything about my sister boldly declared she will burn in hell for being an atheist, or I am a crook for supporting IAU's stance on reclassifying Pluto.

As I have mentioned on numerous occasions, it is a sad state of affairs there are individuals who cannot respectfully disagree but need to express their disagreements in the form of assuming to be morally and ethically superior to those who do not share their opinions.

Dan Perez said:

When reading Eph 3:6 I do fine the word Gentiles // ETHNOS , and have yet to IGNORE or to FIND the word Jews in that CONTEXT !!

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Salvation is from the Jews. John 4:22

Theirs is the adoption to sonship; theirs the divine glory, the covenants, the receiving of the law, the temple worship and the promises.
Theirs are the patriarchs, and from whom, Christ the eternally blessed came, who is over all. Amen. Rom 9:4-6

This covenant and this oath, isn't just for you; it is also for your seed. Deuteronomy 29:12-15

You shall spread abroad to the west and the east, to the north and the south; and in you and in your seed all the families of the earth
shall be blessed. Gen 28:14

And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed.’ To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you,
in turning away every one of you from your iniquities. Acts 3:25-26

Christ would be the first to rise from the dead, [That in all things He may have preeminence Col 1:18] and proclaim light (salvation) to the Jewish people and to the Gentiles. Acts 26:23

Therefore, glorify God together.
Now I say that Jesus Christ has become a servant to the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made to the fathers,
and that the Gentiles might glorify God for His mercy, Romans 15:7-9

He proclaimed peace to you [It shall be everlasting Ezekiel 37:26] who were afar off and to those who were near. For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father. Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone. Eph 2:17-22

Fellowship with Him and One Another
The life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear witness,...
God is light and in Him is no darkness at all. 1 John 1:1-6

So now that means both Justices Thomas (husband of insurrection supporter Ginni) and Alito are irreparably compromised in every single case involving the attempts to overturn the election and the events of 1/6.
They must recuse themselves--although retirement would be preferable.
The arrogance and shamelessness disgust me.

BPPLEE said:

And you totally missed the point,

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Yeah, quite possibly. I remember asking you a few posts ago, what the point was of your post. But it seems you didn't clarify.

hislegacy said:

If you feel closer to God by living in rags and being sick - run with it.

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Do we have to take a vow of poverty to be a Christian?

BobRyan said:

We have the term "Lord's Day" in Rev 1
We have "The Son of Man is LORD of the Sabbath" in Mark 2
We have "the Sabbath - the Holy Day of the LORD" in Is 58:13

But to your point - we don't have any other text that speaks to the Rev 1 term.

So then do you view Is 58:13 as a mistake?

13 “If, because of the Sabbath, you restrain your foot​

From doing as you wish on My holy day,​

And call the Sabbath a pleasure, and the holy day of the Lord honorable,​

And honor it, desisting from your own ways,​

From seeking your own pleasure​

And speaking your own word,​

That Is 58:13 text may help explain why there is such agreement between Sabbath keeping and non-Sabbath keeping scholarship that "The Lord's day" in the Bible - in the OT was the 7th day Sabbath up until the cross (At which point the two groups differ in their views).

I agree that outside of the concept of "my holy day" and "the holy day of the lord" there is also the day of God's wrath and vengeance (a future event) called "The day of the Lord"

3 Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, 4 and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue just as they were from the beginning of creation.”...
10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.

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I got a reply from the Rabbi,

"I can’t tell you what the term means in the NT. To the best of my knowledge the Sabbath is not referred to as “G-d’s day,” but it is referred to (in the Torah) as “G-d’s Sabbath,” or His rest day.

When the prophets speak of “the day of G-d,” it refers to when G-d will display to the world that He is the ultimate power, and that those who have sinned will receive their retribution, and G-d will be recognized by all the world as the sole G-d and the sole power. Thus, for example, Isaiah 2 says: ‘A day for G-d of hosts is coming, for every haughty and exalted person, and for everyone that is raised up or lowly... Then the high among men will bow low, and the exalted among people will be brought down; and G-d alone will be elevated on that day.’ "

Gary K said:

If what you said here is true why do you insist we cannot stop sinning?

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The difference between a born-again Christian and a sinner is that the born-again Christian knows when he/she sins and hates it, whereas a sinner is unaware of most of their sins and loves them. When we repent, we turn away from sin toward the one we love, but we still have a body of death, and there is still a war in our members. At one time, we loved what we did, but when we are saved sometimes what we want to do we do not do, but what we hate we do. And if we do what we do not want to do, we agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer we who do it, but it is sin living in us.

KevinT said:

I'm not following your point here. Can you elaborate?

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I May be getting threads confused. As well as abrogating the Law, pagan/Christians have changed the Lord's Day from Saturday to Sunday. I was trying to make two points, that the Lord's mentioned in Rev 1:10 has nothing to do with the Sabbath, and to call the Day of God's wrath the Sabbath dismisses the importance of Revelation, which reveals that day.

Jipsah said:

Trying too hard, mate..

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Better that; than wasting effort to just reject and denigrate others who make a genuine attempt to understand the Prophetic Word.
Paul says in 1 Thess 5:4 We should not be in the dark, about what God has planned for our future.

a time to be quiet

Tuur said:

Ah, no. The only clear example of that that I know of is that a private school founded as a response to segregation.

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It does not surprise me at all that a segregation academy was so named.

Tuur said:

If you wish to argue that it was for white supremacy, then look for institutions named after Brown vs Board of Education. Prior to that is the concept of hero and reconciliation. The latter goes as far back as Grant's troops honoring Lee's after the surrender at Appomattox. Lee, who has been reviled, asked for reconciliation rather than continued guerilla action. And guess who said the following:

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The memorialization of confederates for current political purposes goes back to the era of the second klan (1920s) at least.

discombobulated1 said:

So maybe some of the people crossing the border are like those children and their families; they want a better life. I am all for that.

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I do send money to other countries like the aforementioned, but I could probably send more. But I am still against an open border. Let those people come LEGALLY.

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I see that you love helping the poor in poor countries, but you also want them to come legally in a rich country like USA.

You contradicted yourself with that statement that's never going to happen as if you're saying you never want to see poor people from other countries entering USA.

Because the only way for people from poor countries to enter USA legally is they cannot be poor or they be have highly marketable skill in USA which will most likely give them a good life at some point anyway.

A poor person in a poor country with no marketable skill have no hope of entering USA legally except as refugee and that's something that doesn't happen often.

It's stated in USA immigration requirement that someone from a poor country must be able to financially support themselves while in USA and that amount is absolutely not affordable by a poor person.