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Gender ideology is choking the truth in school shootings

I've never seen a study done on it, but it might be enlightening to see the percentage numbers for "transsexual" killers in the total "transsexual" population, as juxtaposed against the number of "cisgender" killers in the total "cisgender" population, and see if the "transsexual" numbers are greater within their specific population as a whole. I.e., are they more prone to violent behavior due to the fact of their specific psychosexual abnormality?

I'd like to see the numbers on something like that, but I have no idea where to look, and I'll be hanged if I'm gonna try to crunch those numbers myself, LOL! ;)
I don’t know. But we need to look at the larger issue at hand. Telling someone something they aren’t only harms them imo
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The fascinating reformed theology paradox of Hebrew 6:4-6

“Appealing to ‘Biblical reasoning’ doesn’t solve the problem—it just avoids it. You’re using predestination in Romans 8 as a trump card to reinterpret Hebrews 6,
So Ro 8 is true only in certain circumstances, not across all God's word and, therefore, has no bearing outside Ro?

Is gravity true across God's earth, or only in certain circumstances?
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Evolution, one more argument against

I hope you will note that everything you just wrote is from your imagination -- no facts involved at all.
Did you not read the post? I expressly invited readers to "imagine". Similar to the beginnings of arguments from evolutionary biologists.

Here's some mathematical evidence:

Neo-Darwinism must Mutate to survive​

There has been limited progress to the modern synthesis. The central focus of this perspective is to provide evidence to document that selection based on survival of the fittest is insufficient for other than microevolution. Realistic probability calculations based on probabilities associated with microevolution are presented. However, macroevolution (required for all speciation events and the complexifications appearing in the Cambrian explosion) are shown to be probabilistically highly implausible (on the order of 10−50) when based on selection by survival of the fittest. We conclude that macroevolution via survival of the fittest is not salvageable by arguments for random genetic drift and other proposed mechanisms.


Where? Give an example.
Go through the thread and search the word "fact" and you'll find many examples.
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Several senior FBI leaders ousted without explanation, sources say

Patel in the Senate today. per atrupar

SCHIFF: Did you tell anyone at the FBI that employees who worked on cases against Trump would be fired?

PATEL: People are not removed for case assignments

S: Answer my Q

P: I would never tell anyone they're being removed basically for case assignments [ok, you wouldn't tell them, but did you do it?]

S: This is in the complaint against you
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THE GREAT CONTROVERSY in Baltimore, Maryland

The people of Baltimore will have a preponderance of tissue paper now.

-CryptoLutheran
Very true. According to the NPR program many of the folks in Baltimore have been depositing their copies of THE GREAT CONTROVERSY in their recycling bins. Paper of all sorts which is recycled is frequently converted into the lovely toilet tissue we use.
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Dealing with perfectionism in an imperfect world?

Mo Isom Aiken

Hi, I was watching this video and thought of your situation, particularly in the part where Mo Isom Aiken, the speaker, talks about becoming a leader in your circumstances. Perhaps it may be that God is asking you to take a role of leadership in this situation. What do you think that would look like?
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Ted Cruz torches Tim Kaine for describing God-given rights as 'very, very troubling'

Are you aware of the doctrine of dar al-harb and dar al-Islam? Or taqiyya? If you aren't, I'd suggest you read up on it.

When they are few in number, Medina verses are heavily emphasized. These are the ones like "you have your religion, I have my religion" As they grow in numbers, they shift to the Meccan verses "slaughter the pagans" sort of verses.
I'm aware of everything you mentioned here, and you bringing these specific subjects up as an attempt to show that Islam teaches intolerance and violence proves that you didn't learn about Islam from the sources you mentioned earlier.

the doctrine of dar al-harb and dar al-Islam
In very simple terms, Dar al Islam (House of Islam) historically was a Muslim land with a Muslim government where Islamic law governed. Dar al Harb (House of War) was a land not under an Islamic government or Islamic law, which was openly hostile towards Muslims. Since there are no countries that fit these definitions today, the terms are rarely used by Muslims, with the exception being primarily Islamic extremist groups to justify their actions.

Let's take a look at what the Qur'an says about taqiyya.

First off, the word taqiyya isn't found anywhere in the Qur'an, But here is the definition:

Takiya (taqiyyah, taqiyya); “The principle of dissimulation of one’s religious beliefs in order to avoid persecution or imminent harm, where no useful purpose would be served by publicly affirming them.”

That definition is very specific as to when a lie is permissible.

Below is the ONLY verse found in the Qur'an that mentions lying as being acceptable and even then it is better to choose death rather than to lie as the hadith below it states:

"As for anyone who denies God after having once attained to faith - and this, to be sure, does not apply to one who does it under duress, the while his heart remains true to his faith, but only, to him who willingly opens up his heart to a denial of the truth upon all such falls God's condemnation, and tremendous suffering awaits them" (Qur'an 16:106)

"There is a consensus that whomsoever is forced into apostasy and chooses death has a greater reward than a person who takes the license to deny one's faith under duress, but if a person is being forced to eat pork or drink wine, then they should do that instead of choosing death." (Sahih al-Bukhari)

This following hadith makes it clear that lying is forbidden:

"Avoid falsehood, for falsehood leads to wickedness, and wickedness to Hell; and if a man continues to speak falsehood and makes falsehood his object, he will be recorded in God's presence as a great liar. And adhere to the truth, for truth leads to good deeds, and good deeds lead to Paradise. If a man continues to speak the truth and makes truth his object, he will be recorded in God's presence as eminently truthful." (Sunan Abu Dawood vol. 3, no. 4971)

So as you can see a Muslim is only permitted to lie about one’s religious beliefs in order to avoid persecution, imminent harm or death. In all other cases lying is forbidden and will lead to condemnation.

The following hadith says it is one of the greatest of sins.

"Beware I inform you regarding the greatest of the mortal sins: Associating anything with Allah, disobeying parents and lying!" (Wasaelush Shia)

So based on the above, what do you thing the average Muslim's position would be on lying?


There's a playbook, the behavior and teachings depend on the population. When they are few in number, Medina verses are heavily emphasized. These are the ones like "you have your religion, I have my religion" As they grow in numbers, they shift to the Meccan verses "slaughter the pagans" sort of verses.
You can't take single verses from the Qur'an and apply them without including the surrounding verses and the historical and cultural context they were written in, as I mentioned earlier. The verses were revealed during specific battles that took place around 1400 years ago and are not applicable to Muslims living today. There's also not a single verse in the Qur'an that calls for the killing of non-Muslims simply for being non-Muslims. I'll provide a couple examples of what you would call "'slaughter the pagans' sort of verses" to show this below:

Qur'an 2:191: "And kill them wherever you find them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you... kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers."

The historical context behind Qur'an 2:191 and its surrounding verses came after the followers of Muhammad were forced to Migrate from Mecca to Medina due to persecution from the Meccan idolaters leaving everything behind in the process. These verses were instructions to Muhammad's followers telling them that it's permissible to fight back, not just to reclaim what they had lost, but to also insure that the Meccan idolaters could never oppress others in the future.

And fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not commit aggression; God does not love the aggressors.

And kill them wherever you find them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and persecution is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.

And if they cease, then indeed, God is Forgiving and Merciful.

Fight them until there is no more persecution and until worship is acknowledged to be for God . But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors.
(Quran 2: 190–193)

These instructions were self-defensive and restrictive in nature and clearly don't advocate the killing of non-Muslims simply for the act of disbelief.


Qur'an 9:5: "kill the polytheists wherever you find them and take them prisoners, and beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush."

Verse 9:5 was also revealed to address particular groups of people and their relationship with the Muslims at that time. Qur'an 9 starts by saying "A declaration of immunity from God and His Messenger to the polytheists with whom you had made a treaty." This was addressed to Quraysh who broke the terms of treaty that was made between Muhammad, representing the state of Medina, and the Quraysh tribe in Mecca in March 628 AD.

The verse in Chapter 9 where it says "Once the sacred months have passed kill the polytheists wherever you find them" is referring to a very specific group of non-Muslims, the Quraysh which Muhammad had made a treaty with. It's not talking about all non-Muslims.

At the beginning of Chapter 9 we can see which polytheists are being talked about.

1. A declaration of immunity from God and His Messenger to the polytheists [the Quraysh] with whom you had made a treaty.

4. Except for those among the polytheists with whom you had made a treaty, and did not violate any of its terms, nor aided anyone against you. So fulfill the treaty with them to the end of its term. God loves the righteous.


As seen in these two verses, it's not talking about all polytheists. Since verse 4 says "Except for those among the polytheists with whom you had made a treaty, and did not violate any of its terms, nor aided anyone against you," then this automatically tells us that some of the polytheists have broken their treaties.

7. How can there be a treaty with the polytheists on the part of God and His Messenger, except for those with whom you made a treaty at the Sacred Mosque? As long as they are upright with you, be upright with them. God loves the pious.

8. How? Whenever they
[the Quraysh] overcome you, they respect neither kinship nor treaty with you. They satisfy you with lip service, but their hearts refuse, and most of them are immoral.

10. Towards a believer they respect neither kinship nor treaty. These are the transgressors.


In the above verses we again see a distinction between polytheists, Those who upheld their treaties (Verse 7) and those who didn't respect their treaties (Verses 8 & 9). Those who didn't keep their treaties are the transgressors.

13. Will you not fight a people who violated their oaths, and planned to exile the Messenger, and initiated hostilities against you? Do you fear them? It is God you should fear, if you are believers.

The above question wouldn't have been asked had there not been polytheists who had already broken their treaty. So when you read verse 5:

When the Sacred Months have passed, kill the polytheists wherever you find them. And capture them, and besiege them, and lie in wait for them at every ambush. But if they repent, and perform the prayers, and pay the alms, then let them go their way. God is Most Forgiving, Most Merciful.

When it says "Once the sacred months have passed kill the polytheists wherever you find them," it's obvious that it's only talking about those who have already broken their treaties, the Quraysh, and not all polytheists.

When you take verse 5 out of context it sounds like a command to kill all non-Muslims:

9:5 kill the polytheists wherever you find them and take them prisoners, and beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush.

But with the added context, it's clear that it's not saying that at all. It also becomes clear that Qur'an 9:5 is not a command for Muslims living in 2025.


What makes you think it is only 1%?
Simple math. In 2021, 580,000 people in the world died violently. This includes conflict deaths, intentional homicides, and killings during legal interventions. If every violent death in 2021 came at the hands of a Muslim, they would represent only 0.025% of the Muslim population. Also, if you add up all the members of ISIS, al Qaeda, Boko Haram, Hamas, Jemaah Islamiya, and even the lesser-known groups like Gama’a al-Islamiyya and Jaysh Rijal Al-Tariq Al-Naqshabandi from the US Department of State Country Reports on Terrorism 2023, there are less than 1,000,000 known Islamic terrorists in the world. Even if you double that number to 2,000,000 just to be sure every single terrorist is counted, like lone wolves, etc., it would only add up to 0.1% of the Muslim population. To reach 1%, there would need to be 20 million violent jihadists.

Using common sense, if less than 1% of the followers of Islam are engaging in violence, then this must not be what Islam teaches.

Are you aware of where the Zakat goes?
Where do you think it goes?

Who do you think funds the ones who actually engage in violent jihad?
Based in The Financial Action Task Force (FATF) Comprehensive Update on Terrorist Financing Risks, most lone wolf actors are self funded. Large terrorist groups rely on a mix of state sponsorship, illegal activities, and donations, and smaller ones through criminal activities like kidnapping, piracy, and extortion. Private donations only account for between 10-30% of the funding and these donations mainly go to long established terror groups like Hamas.

You keep mentioning 2 billion followers, and seem to be ignoring the political landscape of the majority muslim world. Why do you think there are so many Islamic refugees?
War and conflict are the primary factors.
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The USCCB’s Woke Moment Exposed Over Charlie Kirk Moment

The
@USCCB
posted this 4 days after the death of career criminal George Floyd. It’s now been 4 days since the horrific murder of Charlie Kirk and the USCCB is silent. Disgusting!

Continued below.
The USCCB’s Woke Moment Exposed Over Charlie Kirk Moment
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Proclaim the Message of Salvation

I'd like to add that confidence in Christ comes with time and walking with him. For a lot of new people who are just coming to faith, I know nervousness to spread the gospel is common but walk with him, let him guide you and you will get there.

The greatest commandment is to love the Lord with all your heart, soul and mind (Matthew 22:37). If you do that and continually seek him, he can help keep you on the right path. God first above everything, his wisdom, his guidance and ALWAYS test everything you read or hear to the scriptures to make sure it doesnt conflict. (Galatians 1:8, 1 john 4:1)
Thank you.
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Amid anti-DEI push, National Park Service rewrites history of Underground Railroad

That's unfortunate.

Part of the context around historic events that happened at Harper's Ferry was the brutalization that was part and parcel of chattel slavery in the US, so it does a disservice to cultural memory of historic sites to remove actual historical context around them. But it does fit an authoritarian-friendly campaign of "patriotic education" that glosses over the darker chapters in a nation's history.
Plus, if not kept at the forefront, history tends to repeat itself. History should be kept raw and as it happened.
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Sabbatarianism

I agree, "Judaism" was the Pharisee's religion, or as Paul called it, "The Jews Religion".

So God sent Jesus in a world where the mainstream religion, "who professed to know" the God of Abraham, was the Pharisees and the Sadducees religion. Paul was a zealous member of this religion during the lifetime of Jesus on earth, and even participated in the murder of Stephen several years after Jesus ascended.
Thank you. When we read the Gospels we read in context of how they practiced and considered the days and the counts.
Civil calendar day of the month (begins at night), verses Liturgical days (morn and even sacrifices "daily") , and feasts days (evening to evening spanning parts of two calendar days.). This includes the judaic "inlusive counting"
The rest of your problems with Catholicism has nothing to do with what I am getting at.
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Something extremely strange has happened to me but I don't know how to explain it. Can someone please help?

I agree with the idea of what you're saying, but don't agree with the nuance. I'm not sure if I can elaborate without breaking the rules, but I will say though that there are always 4 spirits we must contend with, God's, fallen angels, God following angels and our own. Since we still struggle with the curse of sin/flesh, our own mind can do a lot of things on its own. I know people tend to immediately jump on the bandwagon to claim its occult, or demons, but sometimes it's our own thoughts that can be intrusive enough to warp our own realities/perception. Biology plays a huge part in this which is why anti-depressants, anti-anxiety, and anti-psychotics work because there can be an imbalance chemically in the brain that can alter our moods and make our thoughts swing to extremes. Sometimes people feel better by just being in prayer, and eating healthier. That's not to say that demons can't weasel their way in, as I have personal experiences dealing with them for myself and others, but biology definitely can be the answer in some instances.
Thank you for considering what I had to say, I can certainly see where you're coming from.

In terms of dealing with anxiety, Philippians Chapter 4 has some good content related to that.
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A record number of congressional lawmakers aren't running for reelection in 2026. Here's the list [so far]

I wonder if it's because Congress has become a non functional cog in the government machine, or did they reach the monetary amount they needed to live a comfortable life.
Those are possible options. A couple others I can think of.

I remember in another case where the GOP was heading for the exits, one of them said "It's not fun to not be in the majority anymore." They may be sensing a blue ripple that will flip the House.

Perhaps connected to that, a lot of these folks are getting earfuls of anger at their town halls (if they have the guts to hold them). They may realize that the Big Billionaire Buffet and cuts to healthcare are not popular and they're having difficulty justifying their own votes to their own constituents.
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Why are all these leading Democrats suddenly facing mortgage fraud charges? Trump's retribution guy at the Federal Housing Finance Agency

A divided federal appeals court on Monday night ruled Cook can keep her job, turning aside an appeal by the Trump administration that sought to fire her ahead of the central bank’s key meeting this week.
Trump has accused Cook of mortgage fraud — a charge she denies — and has sought her dismissal, but the three-judge panel said the president violated Cook’s rights by not giving her a chance to defend herself against the accusations.

“The government does not dispute that it failed to provide Cook even minimal process — that is, notice of the allegation against her and a meaningful opportunity to respond — before she was purportedly removed,” the majority wrote in the 2-1 ruling.


The Trump administration is expected to appeal the case to the US Supreme Court.
The SCOTUS should have no business taking up this case or therefore lack of case. It's Roberts himself who has said the Fed Reserve has a special protection status from Trump's authoritarian firing that same Robert's court granted Trump. But then again, it's the Roberts court, so who knows.
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AI and I stumbled on something huge that could change the world in the next few years

I can't give the clue. I know how smart you are and you'll figure it out. But a clue to the clue to the clue is philosophical in nature.
I wasn't fishing for a clue. The information you have given described a physically impossible configuration.
I intend to build it with less than $2000 budget with used components. The concept is relatively simple. No high tech components needed and some of the parts can be sourced from a junk shop.

I'm not really well off. I only make $600 each month and most of it goes to just paying bills and debts. I'll save $2000 eventually but another problem is that I simply have no time to build a prototype without sacrificing my job and leaving or getting fired from my job is a risk I cannot afford to take.
Yes, I got that. It is not my place to tell you that this is a foolish move. That's up to you.
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The U.A.E. Got Chips. The Trump Team Got Crypto Riches.

Yes, Trump did use that reasoning, but the execs are paid millions and surely the astute ones and the boards should be smart enough to play the long game?

lol, no.

I've worked for three companies now that started private, were bought by publicly traded firms, and remained as small entities, with their amount of autonomy diminishing over time. The culture among the workers at all of them was closer to small business/non-corporate, but at the last two, I've had upper management tell us explicitly that publicly traded firms have different incentives and you have to keep that stock value going up-up-up, which means making different choices than you would if you were private and playing the long game. At my current company, the difference has been pretty stark. I came on after the sale, but it was recent enough that tales of The Before Times are still bandied around frequently.

I don't think that 6 months would make much difference in terms of planning for the corporation.

I'm inclined to agree, but a boy can dream.
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