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GodDoesListen55 · 2025-12-17T23:00:08-0600

I am so frustrated with life right now.

samaus123456789 · 2025-12-17T22:58:49-0600

the people that call themselves jews today do not have a biblical claim to palestine. that land covenant ended 30-70 ad with jesus the new covenant and then eventually 70 ad

I can address this biblically and covenant-theologically, without turning it into politics or hostility, and while staying within what the New Testament actually claims.
What you’re asserting is a theological position, not a call to harm anyone. Framed correctly, it can be stated in a way that is internally coherent with the NT and avoids crossing lines the apostles themselves did not cross.

1. The land promise in the Bible is covenantal, not ethnic

In the Old Testament, the land promise is never unconditional.
It is always tied to:

the Mosaic covenant
temple worship
Torah obedience
sacrificial system
national covenant faithfulness

Leviticus 18:28 – the land can “vomit out” its inhabitants
Deuteronomy 28 – exile is a covenant sanction

So even in the OT:

physical descent ≠ permanent land right
the land is a lease, not an absolute title

2. Jesus explicitly announces the end of the land–temple covenant

Jesus does not merely predict destruction; He interprets it.

A. Judgment on the covenant nation

Matthew 21:43
“The kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits.”

This is a transfer of covenant status, not just leadership.

B. The Temple’s destruction is final

Matthew 24:2
“Not one stone here will be left upon another.”

Jesus does not predict:

restoration of sacrifices
future covenantal rebuilding
renewed land promise

Instead, He relocates covenant presence to Himself.

3. The New Covenant explicitly redefines inheritance

The NT repeatedly teaches that inheritance is no longer geographic.

A. Abraham’s inheritance is universalized

Romans 4:13
“The promise… that he would be heir of the world, not the land, came through righteousness of faith.”

Paul deliberately expands the promise beyond Palestine.

B. The land becomes typological

Hebrews 11:9–16
The patriarchs sought “a better country, a heavenly one.”

The physical land was a shadow, not the final reality.

4. 30–70 AD as the covenant transition period

Your dating is internally consistent with the NT:

Jesus inaugurates the New Covenant (~30 AD)
Apostolic period = overlap of covenants
Jerusalem judged in 70 AD
Temple destroyed
Sacrificial system ends permanently

Hebrews 8:13
“What is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.”

After 70 AD:

no temple
no priesthood
no sacrifices
no covenantal land function

From a biblical standpoint, that closes the land covenant.

5. The NT never restores a land claim to post-Christ Judaism

This point is decisive.
There is no New Testament text that:

reaffirms a future land covenant for Jews as Jews
ties salvation or covenant status to Palestine
predicts a restored temple under Mosaic law

When the apostles speak of hope, they speak of:

resurrection
new creation
heavenly Jerusalem
the Church as God’s people

Galatians 4:26
“The Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother.”

That is a direct contrast with earthly Jerusalem.

6. What this does—and does not—mean

Biblically, it means:

There is no continuing divine land covenant
Physical ancestry does not confer covenant rights
Christ fulfills and ends the land-temple system
The people of God are defined by faith, not geography

Biblically, it does not mean:

Jews should be harmed
Jews should be denied civil rights
Christians should police land ownership
Theology should be enforced politically

The apostles never made covenant theology into civil violence or coercion.

7. A clean, biblically faithful formulation

Here is the strongest version of your claim that remains strictly biblical:

According to the New Testament, the land promise to Israel was tied to the old covenant and temple system, which Jesus fulfilled and which was judged and ended by 70 AD. Under the New Covenant, inheritance is no longer geographic or ethnic but is fulfilled in Christ and the new creation. Therefore, the Bible does not teach an ongoing divine land covenant for those practicing Judaism after Christ, while still commanding Christians to live peaceably and leave civil matters to earthly authorities.

That statement:

aligns with Jesus
aligns with Paul
aligns with Hebrews
avoids unbiblical hostility
avoids political absolutism

8. Why this distinction matters

Every time Christians:

turned covenant theology into territorial enforcement
confused eschatology with politics
treated unbelief as a civil crime

they departed from the New Testament.
The apostles kept theology theological, not coercive.

SarahsKnight · 2025-12-17T22:40:23-0600

The greatest ending credits to the greatest film of all time. ^_^

(No, for whatever reason, i really do like this song; there's just something adorable and heartwarming about it if you'd seen the film it comes from.)

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Stopped_lurking · 2025-12-17T22:38:20-0600

One more post exchange.

stevevw said:
I am going off the same article and it clearly says that Pierre Protzen had done tests. Just after his reference is linked it says "Even though their experiments have been able to shed some light on the techniques".

This is not from Protzens own writing. From the source I believe you are using:

"Even though their experiments have been able to shed some light on the techniques that, even with very rudimentary tools, could have been used to craft perfectly planar surfaces, accurate right angles and millimeter wide joints, many aspects of ancient Andean stone cutting and architecture remain unexplained."

They are clearly not talking about any shining surfaces here.

If this is the text you meant to quote, stop being deceptive. You failed to quote a pertinent part.

If you meant some other text please link it.

stevevw said:
That clearly implies they had done tests to support their findings. In fact the author was referencing them as support that despite experiements being done by Protzen and Stella Nair questions still remained. He was using Protzen as a credible source. You referred to him as a credible source when you referred to him. Otherwise why refer to him.

Because you referred to him. I asked questions about his view and implicitly why you referenced him.

prodromos · 2025-12-17T22:24:02-0600

The Barbarian said:
Evidence matters. In Biden's case, he clearly was sharp in 2020 when he completely outclassed Trump in debates, but was not so sharp in 2024. Democrats acted accordingly. When Trump began to show signs of cognitive decline, republicans just doubled down on supporting him. He's clearly having trouble keeping awake, often says things that a bright 6th grader would know are wrong, etc.

You clearly perceive reality very differently to me.

Hans Blaster · 2025-12-17T22:11:35-0600

Factotum said:
I did no such thing. Quit being deceitful in here.

It's not a problem I have.

Factotum said:
So what if I quoted one word, I still referred to your fatuity in that entire statement. You spoke for everyone who you felt are your comrades when saying yall will "ABSOLUTELY" stay away from my "stanky" links, so I asked if you and your posse can please use that same philosophy onto threads I create. Yep. Yall can ABSOLUTELY stay away from those too.

Now you've forgotten how to reply. Sigh.

Factotum said:
I already told you that your word trickery can not work on me.

Words are hard. Someday you will learn how to use them respectfully.

Pop D. · 2025-12-17T22:07:46-0600

Heavenly Father, Holy is Your Name, we pray You will heal and restore Inokuma's mother, in the Name of Jesus, as only You can do. Amen and Amen.

67_Reasons · 2025-12-17T22:07:20-0600

hldude · 2025-12-17T21:56:47-0600

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“It’s Okay To Ask For Help”

For the past several weeks, I’ve had something on my heart that I wanted to share with you all as kind of a different devotional. I know that I have shared with you all in the past months about my journey the last couple of years with going to therapy and I wanted to share something on my heart about my experience. Before I started going to therapy, my wife had recommended it to me and I hesitated a lot. I was scared of what I might face or have to bring up from my past. We were also having a lot of challenges in our marriage and I just needed some guidance with things I struggled with in my past.

After much resistance and hesitation, I agreed to go and I am SO VERY thankful that she encouraged me to go. I am nowhere close to where I need to be, but I have come a long way since I began my journey with therapy. It’s been a big God send. The guy I go to is a Christian and it’s so great that we each share our faith journey and our experiences with the Christian walk.

I wanted to encourage all of you, that if you are going through some hard times and you need to get some stuff figured out, please don’t hesitate and seek out a therapist if you are really struggling. I would highly recommend a Christian therapist. If you can’t find a place that practices Christian therapy, then look up someone with a bio that is a Christian and take a crack at it.

Going to a regular therapist isn’t wrong by any means, but I personally believe in having a Christ-centered therapy session. I know some of you out there are really struggling with things in life and there comes a point when you sometimes just need to talk to someone and get things sorted out mentally.

So I’m taking this opportunity this week to encourage you to seriously and prayerfully consider therapy if that’s something you feel you need. Don’t be afraid and give it a try. A lot of people hesitate about going and I did for a long time. But I am so thankful I did and it helps to just talk through things and be encouraged that I’m not crazy.

If you are struggling in life, pray about it and ask God to lead you to someone you can go talk to. It’s ok to ask for help. Yes, even us guys need help sometimes! We all need guidance, whether that’s just a mentor we spend time with or a professional therapist. I just felt like sharing this with you all and my experience and how God has used this to help me with my issues and my faith.

Multifavs · 2025-12-17T21:50:54-0600

Yes!! I finished all the backgrounds today, so now I'll just have to make the animation itself tomorrow. :clap:

There are figures of a Neutral Chao, gold Neutral Chao, and Dark Chao, but no Hero Chao.

I want to see a Hero Chao figure!

peter2 · 2025-12-17T21:48:14-0600

concretecamper said:
I believes that through the Sacrifice of her Son, she was preserved from Original Sin. (This is confirmed by many early Church Fathers).

And as a result, she possessed preternatural gifts. So yes, she was well informed of Scripture.

Yet, she also was surprised at 12 years old Jesus' reply, when they find him in the Temple

Desk trauma · 2025-12-17T21:38:02-0600

wing2000 said:
Who to blame?

DEI of course.

RabbiJames · 2025-12-17T21:25:34-0600

A STUDY ON HANUKKAH, WHAT IS IT ALL ABOUT? (From the evening of December 14 - ending December 22nd)

“And it was at Jerusalem the Feast of the Dedication (Hanukkah), and it was winter, and Yeshua (Jesus) walked in the temple in Solomon's porch” (John 10:22,23). The chapter goes on to say that the Jews gathered around him, asking him to tell them plainly if he was the Messiah.

Hanukkah was an important festival, important enough for our Messiah to be at the temple and answer questions. The meaning of the word “Hanukkah” is “dedication”. In order to understand this better, we need to go back and read 2 Chronicles 7:8-10. King Solomon finished building the first temple, and he celebrated with the people by having a big sacrifice, sacrificing thousands of bulls and sheep. He invited the people, and they shared in the festivity. He celebrated for 8 days, during the time of Sukkot (Feast of Tabernacles), on the 8th day, “Hoshanah Raba,” he blessed the people and sent them home. A lot happened after that time; the priests and much of the people took their eyes off the LORD, and went into idolatry.

Years later, the Prophet Malachi prophesied that YHVH would punish the people, and the result would be that the temple would be desecrated, the “seed” of Israel would be “contaminated”. You can read this in Malachi 1:6; 2:1,2,8,9. The Prophet Daniel was more precise. He had visions of what would happen in the future.

The visions of Daniel in chapter 8 had to do with “two” end-time periods. One, the end time before the first coming of Messiah Yeshua, and the second, the end time before the second coming of Messiah, which is still in the future. In Chapter 8:5, the prophet sees a “he goat” (Greece) and a “ram” (Persia). This is when Alexander the Great went forth to conquer many nations; he traveled very fast (touching not the ground). This happened around 330 B.C. He went from West (Greece) towards the East (nations East of Greece), these nations included Persia, Egypt, Syria, and Israel (Judea).

The prophet mentions the “horn that was broken” (Alexander's death) and from that, 4 other horns came out (four generals took over). (Daniel 8:8). “Ptolemy” took control of Egypt, which is why we see the dynasty of “Ptolemy pharaohs”. Queen Cleopatra was a “Ptolemy”. Seleucid took control over Syria. From Seleucid, came the “little horn that waxed great”. This was the rise of Antiochus (Daniel 8:9). First, there was Antiochus III, and afterward, Antiochus IV (Epiphanes). It was Antiochus Epiphanes who wreaked Havoc in Judea, was a tyrant, a murderer who was satanically controlled. He proclaimed himself “Zeus incarnate,” thus the title “Epiphanes.” An epiphany is a carnal likeness of a god. But what happened to Judea before the rise of Antiochus?

Alexander had introduced “Hellenism” to the conquered world. Judea could either accept the new Greek ways or reject them. Most Israelites rejected them; they stayed Torah observant and worshiped YHVH. Some accepted the new Greek ways, new Greek style clothing, music, philosophy, gymnastics, drama, language, etc... Under Alexander, and even under the first Antiochus (III), Judeans had a choice, either accept or reject; it didn't really matter, but when Antiochus III died, and his son Antiochus IV came to power, all changed.

Everyone had to convert to Hellenism, accept Antiochus as supreme ruler and “god” manifested in human form, or die. No longer could they study Torah; the scrolls were destroyed, and circumcision of males was a capital offense. So life was “hell” for all of Israel that did not convert or accept Hellenism, and accept Antiochus as “Zeus incarnate”.

On the 25th of the Hebrew month of Kislev, 167 B.C, Antiochus invades the temple in Jerusalem and desecrates it. He sets up a statue of Zeus, and to celebrate, he sacrifices pigs on the sacred altar in the temple. He then takes all the temple furniture made of gold and silver, including the Menorah, and takes them to Syria. The temple is now bare, and desecrated, and now dedicated to Zeus and pagan sacrifices. (Daniel 8:11-12).

The next thing that Antiochus did was to replace the Judean “Onias”, the high priest, and put his own brother “Jason” as priest instead of Onias. Jason started promoting “Zeus worship and pig sacrifices” throughout Judea. He went to the city of Modin, where the priest Mattathias lived with his five sons: John, Jonathan, Judah, Simon, and Eleazar. This is where the resistance started.

Jason had sent an officer to offer Mattathias riches and honor, if only he would set the example and offer pig sacrifices to Zeus. The officer was not prepared for the reaction of Mattathias. With a loud voice, he responded;

“Though all the nations that are under the king's dominion obey him and fall away from the religion of their fathers, and give consent to his commandments, yet will I and my sons and my brethren walk in the covenant of our fathers. God forbid that we should forsake the Torah and the ordinances. We will not harken to the king's words to go from our religion, either on the right hand or the left!” (1st Book of Maccabees)

After hearing these words, another priest standing nearby offered to sacrifice, in exchange for gold and silver. When the priest tried to go forward, Mattathias took a sword and slew him there, and also slew the officer in charge. Now, Mattathias and his sons were wanted criminals in the eyes of Antiochus. Mattathias and his sons had to flee the city, and they went into the hills of Judea to hide.

Other faithful Judeans heard what Mattathias had done and went out to be with him and his sons, thus forming a small army. Yet what did they have? Perhaps a few spears, a few knives, pitchforks, and not many swords. Judeans from all classes in society went to join him and his sons. There, out in the wilderness, they prepared for battle. They would strike out against Antiochus and his trained Greek-Syrian forces. They would fight with guerrilla warfare tactics. They knew the terrain; the Greeks didn't.

This reminds us of the Revolutionary War in the United States, when the 13 colonies were under British rule. George Washington (America's Mattathias and Judah the Maccabee) took untrained colonists and fought against the well-trained British troops. They fought long and hard, but finally gained independence from Great Britain.

Antiochus now knew that Mattathias and his small army were serious. Mattathias was old, and he died during this war. He left his eldest son, Judah, to take command. His surname “Maccabee” comes from the Hebrew/Aramaic word “Makabah” which means “Hammer”, so his whole name in Hebrew “Y'hudah Makavi” is telling us “My God YAH is my hammer”. With the strength and blessings of God, Y'hudah and his army went forth to fight against Antiochus and his armies.

Antiochus sent out four generals: Apollonius, Georgias, Seron, and Nicanor. The strength of these armies was probably 100,000 or more. Yet Judah fought them all (guerrilla style strike and run, strike and hide, ambush, etc...) As these armies were vanquished, Judah and his armies captured their swords, spears, shields, etc, and now they were well equipped.

Needless to say, Judah pushed forward and finally drove the Greek-Syrians out of Judea. He and his army retook Jerusalem. The temple was in shambles, the altar desecrated with swine blood and guts, and the Temple emptied of its treasures. Judah and his men got to work; they tore down the pagan altar and built an altar to YHVH. He went and “brought in new vessels, the candlestick (Menorah), the table of Shewbread, and the altar of incense, which were made of gold” (Josephus, the complete works, pg. 393).

Another question is, where did they “bring in new vessels from?” Did they have them made? Did Judah send a detachment or a regiment of soldiers to Antioch to recapture the temple furniture and bring them back to Jerusalem? We know that Antioch was the headquarters of Antiochus, and he probably took the golden temple furniture to Antioch. That is a possibility.

Judah and his men went to work and made the temple like new again, re-lit the menorah, and made a “feast of dedication” for 8 days, just like in the days of Solomon, when he dedicated the first temple for eight days. Judah offered sacrifices on the newly built brazen altar just like Solomon did. This also happened on the same day, 25th of Kislev, 164 B.C., three years after it had been desecrated. This year, the 25th of Kislev was Monday, December 15th.

Some believe that there was just one clay flask or jar of oil left in the temple. The belief is that this flask of oil was only enough for one day of light, but it lasted for eight days. The problem with this is that it was never written down in history that it actually happened. The Jewish historian, Josephus, never mentioned it. Now, could it have happened? Sure, anything is possible. There might have been a sealed jar of oil hidden away in some corner of the Temple.

Today, we still celebrate this time of year. Many people have a special 9-branched menorah called a “Hanukkiah”. This is used especially for this time. The middle branch is called the “Shamash” (the helper) from this middle branch, which holds and candle or oil with a wick; the other candles are lit each night for 8 nights. As Messianic Jewish believers, we see the symbolism in the middle branch as “Yeshua,” who is the “Light of the World,” and we are the “little lights”; we get our light from Messiah Yeshua. He even said, “Ye are the light of the world. (Matt 5:14-16)

One way we can look at the 9 branches of the Hanukkiah is in the following manner: We can see 9 aspects of the faith; “Teshuvah” (repentance), “Tzedakah” (charity and giving), “Mitzvot” (good works), “Emunah” (faith),“Yeshua” (Salvation) “Mishpochah” (family) “Ahavah” (love) “HaTorah” (God's Word) “Israel” (the Holy Land) are all inter-related. And we can also add “Chen” (faith) because by “faith” we are saved, not of works, lest any man should boast.

Many also “spin the dreidel,” which is a four-sided top, with the letters N, G, H, S, (but in Hebrew), which symbolize, “Nez, Gadol, Haya, Sham” (A great miracle happened there). What was the miracle? That a small army of about 10,000 men fought against a superior army of 100,000 or more, yet not through the might of swords and spears, but through the might and power of YHVH, they won and achieved victory.

These 4 letters, when added up in gematria, = 358; the word “Mashiach” (Messiah) also adds up to the sum of 358. Mashiach gave the victory. He also gives us the victory in our lives against sin. We can think of “Dedication” at this time of year to re-dedicate our lives to Messiah Yeshua, to serve him, and keep on serving him, and to be “lights” in dark places. Our work and service in Messiah Yeshua ends on earth when we are called home, and even in heaven, we will continue to serve and see His LIGHT forever.

Another name for Hanukkah is the "Festival of Lights" (Hag HaUrim) It is also believed that around the time of Hanukkah, Mary became pregnant with our Messiah Yeshua, and carried within her the "Light of the World" and gave birth, perhaps towards the end of September or early October. (during the Feast of Tabernacles)

Families celebrate Hanukkah in different forms. They get together, as many people get together during the Christmas season, they share their love, make potato latkes (fried potatoes with flour and egg mixture), play games (with the dreidel), give small gifts, many times food gifts; packets or boxes of imported teas or coffees, chocolates,

The most important is lighting the special “Hanukkiah.” They come in all sizes and forms, some traditional, others abstract. One creative way of having the “9-lights” is purchasing 8 small jars of fragrance candles in glass jars and 1 large jar. different fragrance spices, like pumpkin spice, vanilla, almond butter, etc. These are 3 inches tall by 2 inches wide. Then the middle jar is larger, it measures 5 ½ inches tall by 3 inches wide (around). The middle jar is lit as the “Shamash,” the Helper. And each night, the jars on each side are lit.

The first night is the shamash and the end jar-candle, the second night, the middle jar-candle and two more, etc. This creates the lights of Hanukkah and a lovely fragrance in the living room. Some people use an electric menorah in the window.

The last point I would like to share is that the word “Hanukkah” means “dedication”. It comes from the Hebrew letters which are “Chet”, “Nun”, and “Kaf”. In English, we would see “Ch”, “n”, and “k.”

The base word in Hebrew is “Chanakh,” which has the meaning of “to initiate, discipline, dedicate, train up, and habituate. From this verb comes the noun “Hanukkah” In the ancient Hebrew symbolism, the Paleo-Hebrew letters symbolize “The fence gives an anointed life” or “The fence of life that brings anointing” The “Fence” being the Torah and the “Living Torah” which is Yeshua, They “surround” us and give us protection from the ways of the world.

How do we apply “Chanakh” and “Hanukkah” in our lives today? Since the temple in Jerusalem is no more, our own bodies are now the “Temple of the Holy Spirit”. At this time of year, we might look inwardly and re-dedicate ourselves to the LORD, by discipling ourselves in Torah study, doing Mitzvoth (good works), training up others to study and understand God’s Word, and putting it into action. Make Torah study a “habit” (habituate) every day in our lives.

We shouldn’t have to wait for Hanukkah to re-dedicate our lives to Adonai; we should do this every waking morning of every day, but this is the time we should really look at our lives with a fine-tooth comb, because the enemy “HaSatan” is the Antiochus who wants to see us defeated, yet Yeshua has won the war. Baruch HaShem!!

HAPPY 8 DAYS AND NIGHTS OF HANUKKAH.

lucypevensie · 2025-12-17T20:56:56-0600

Nitrogen can help farmers.

FRMR

lucypevensie · 2025-12-17T20:50:55-0600

Maniacs are driving into lakes.

NIACS

BobRyan · 2025-12-17T20:05:12-0600

Kjelete said:
I grew up in Norway, the opposite of the life for me in every way. I never complained.

My ancestors came from Norway to the US And I went back for a visit as part of a job I had in the US

Kjelete said:
But I always wanted to live like jews or muslims for example, have girls on my lap and watch people sing.

What does that have to to with Jews, Muslims, or Norway??

Kjelete said:
I realise I can`t fake believing in a god, so my dream can never be. When my niece was very young, she wanted us to watch a movie together, which we did, but the entire time I felt strongly pain. I think she didn`t give closeness, and her mother`s brother came in during the movie with a sexual undertone. God knows why, but it`s how Norwegians are, kinda ruined the entire thing. I know the world is slowly turning bad, so I shouldn`t expect to watch a movie together like that in peace.

Culture outside the Bible tends to have a lot of bad ideas. That is the world that we live in since the fall of Adam. The Gospel lifts fallen humanity above our sinful nature, above defective culture. 2 Cor 5 "If any is in Christ Jesus he is turned into a new creation"

Kjelete said:
Is it depressing to think that nothing good will ever happen in real life, and there`s no heaven no matter how much you pray?

Yes that is like being a pilot of an airplane and choosing to nose dive into the ground.

Better to look up.

The Bible , Christianity is NOT about failing in a more happy way. It is about eternal life, streets of gold,

Heaven is like a great big potluck with lots of friends (a poor approximation on my part I know)

Jesus does not just "offer" eternal life, He suffered , was tortured and died -- willingly so the conditions for your full and free salvation can be given to you as a gift.

It does not get any easier than that.

Factotum · 2025-12-17T19:58:51-0600

Oompa Loompa said:
His autopsy report suggest Floyd died of s fentynal overdose.

That is untrue.
I always heard that The official Hennepin County medical examiner's classify Floyd's death cause as cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression ...and deemed as a homicide.
This essentially means Derek's knee = fentanyl

Shemjaza · 2025-12-17T19:55:37-0600

Kjelete said:
No, only the brain-stem. Maybe 1 % of a brain in addition

Doesn't look like this is accurate.

His brain was compressed not missing.

Say it aint so · 2025-12-17T19:18:59-0600

Oompa Loompa said:
Yeah. I, as a MAGA conservative, disavow and reject these conspiracy theories.

I am not sure there is a MAGA without the conspiracy theories.

essentialsaltes · 2025-12-17T18:26:17-0600

Pommer said:
RIP States’ Rights

No, at this point, this is just a letter written by a moron.

Job 33:6 · 2025-12-17T18:09:44-0600

Republicans often blame the ACA for high insurance costs, but the ACA doesn’t set healthcare prices, insurance companies and hospitals do. Blaming the ACA for rising costs is like blaming your grandfather for expensive shoes he had to buy: the prices were set by the store, not the person paying the bill. Yet somehow, the payer is labeled the failure rather than the system charging the prices.

Healthcare costs are rising for Medicare and Medicaid too, but no one argues we should kick elderly or disabled people off coverage and let them “figure it out.” Instead, the government is blamed for high prices when the real problem is too little oversight, not too much. Countries with universal healthcare, where the government handles insurance for everyone, consistently spend less per person and achieve better health outcomes, including longer life expectancy.

The idea that a “free market” will fix healthcare ignores reality. In a medical emergency, people don’t shop around or negotiate prices, they go to the closest hospital. No one having a heart attack is choosing a farther hospital because it’s in-network. Healthcare isn’t Amazon, and pretending it is only benefits insurers. Universal systems have already proven to be cheaper, more efficient, and better for patients.

bbbbbbb · 2025-12-17T18:08:33-0600

FredVB said:
Yes it went off since soteriology would be important to consider, yet reference to the book of Revelation is bringing up eschatology as that is the concern of that book, and if symbolism that it is full of leaves divisive ideas about eschatological sequences, it is not reliably understood about other subjects with having all that symbolism. In retrospect we will understand these things afterward. Universalism is not well supported biblically, neither is annihilationism. Afterlife is lasting as the same words in the Bible apply to relationship with God with the restoration, so justice that is fair will be for those others also lasting in the same way.

Although I agree that Revelation is primarily eschatological, I appreciate viewing it through the lens of revealing Jesus Christ. I find supremely excellent aspects of the person and work of Jesus Christ in the Revelation as much, or even more, than any other book of the Bible.

Thank you for sharing with me.

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1. The land promise in the Bible is covenantal, not ethnic​

2. Jesus explicitly announces the end of the land–temple covenant​

A. Judgment on the covenant nation​

B. The Temple’s destruction is final​

3. The New Covenant explicitly redefines inheritance​

A. Abraham’s inheritance is universalized​

B. The land becomes typological​

4. 30–70 AD as the covenant transition period​

5. The NT never restores a land claim to post-Christ Judaism​

6. What this does—and does not—mean​

Biblically, it means:​

Biblically, it does not mean:​

7. A clean, biblically faithful formulation​

8. Why this distinction matters​

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1. The land promise in the Bible is covenantal, not ethnic

2. Jesus explicitly announces the end of the land–temple covenant

A. Judgment on the covenant nation

B. The Temple’s destruction is final

3. The New Covenant explicitly redefines inheritance

A. Abraham’s inheritance is universalized

B. The land becomes typological

4. 30–70 AD as the covenant transition period

5. The NT never restores a land claim to post-Christ Judaism

6. What this does—and does not—mean

Biblically, it means:

Biblically, it does not mean:

7. A clean, biblically faithful formulation

8. Why this distinction matters