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Chesterton · 2025-11-23T14:30:50-0600

Someone should write a song called "2025". It's been a great year so far.

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sovereigngrace · 2025-11-23T14:17:33-0600

eleos1954 said:
The "rapture" is the first resurrection .... there is no "secrete rapture" ... personally I don't like or use the term. There are two resurrections.

You seem incapable of addressing all rebuttals to your theological theories above. Why is that?

CoreyD · 2025-11-23T14:17:05-0600

childeye 2 said:
Yeah, I don't believe in that. I believe were either serving righteousness or unrighteousness.

Okay. Thank you.
What you don't believe is what is.

The Bible says, at Hosea 14:4, in part...

I will freely love them / I will love them freely

The Hebrew expression nedabah (נְדָבָה) is rendered freewill offering, freely, plentiful, voluntary, offering, willingly, offering.

This Hebrew word comes from the Hebrew word nadab, of which Topical Lexicon says...

The verb נָדַב consistently underlines a movement of the heart that is neither coerced nor merely dutiful. It describes people stirred from within to give, serve, or step forward because they have first been moved by God. Throughout Scripture this spirit of readiness is linked to worship, stewardship, civic responsibility, and warfare, revealing a multifaceted biblical theology of voluntary devotion.

At 1 Corinthians 9:16-18, verse 17 says,

For if I do this willingly, I have a reward; but if unwillingly, I am entrusted with a stewardship.

Paul uses the Greek word hekón: Willing, Voluntary. Which means of one's own free will.

According to Thayer's Greek Lexicon...

STRONGS NT 1635: ἑκών

ἑκών, ἑκοῦσα, ἑκον, unforced, voluntary, willing, of one's own will, of one's own accord: Romans 8:20; 1 Corinthians 9:17. (From Homer down.)

At Philemon 1:14, Paul says...

But I did not want to do anything without your consent, so that your goodness will not be out of compulsion, but by your own free will (Berean Standard Bible; NASB; Amplified Bible; Christian Standard Bible; Holman Christian Standard Bible; American Standard Version; English Revised Version; New Heart English Bible; Majority Standard Bible; World English Bible; Smith's Literal Translation; Anderson New Testament; Godbey New Testament) / according to willingness / willingly / voluntary / not something forced.

The Greek word hekousios - meaning free will, is the neuter of a derivative from hekon; voluntariness -- willingly, which is (an adjective, a primitive term) – properly, willing; "unforced, of one's own will, voluntary" (J. Thayer), i.e. acting on one's own accord. The root (hek-) emphasizes intentional, deliberate action (choice), i.e. "of free-will" (J. Thayer).

voluntary

adjective

Done or undertaken of one's own free will.

a voluntary decision to leave the job.

Acting or done willingly and without constraint or expectation of reward.

a voluntary hostage; voluntary community work.

Normally controlled by or subject to individual volition.

volition

The act of willing or choosing; the act of forming a purpose; the exercise of the will.

The result of an act or exercise of choosing or willing; a state of choice.

The power of willing or determining; will.

These works are not beliefs. There are facts - works of academia.
The definition of the words here, are not subject to change based on one's belief.
They describe free will, voluntary, willful, deliberate, and intentional action.
You cannot accept them... so you claim, but at the same time do not believe them.

I cannot continue this conversation with you, as it would be similar to talking with someone who says they don't believe seas and oceans exist, simply because of their beliefs., and opening works of academia and showing that person that what they are denying is actually proven knowledge makes no difference to them.

So, thank you for the discussion, and you do have an enjoyable day sir.
Good day.

jonojim1337 · 2025-11-23T13:54:16-0600

Well I hope it’s better than this:

Belonging to Abba · 2025-11-23T13:28:24-0600

Thank you, Mark, for your helpful and encouraging reply. As an update, I decided to remove the time limits for texting, not wanting to be in a situation again where I am glued to my phone feeling severely restricted in what I can do. The result is that the only reliable strategy I have to try to control my smartphone use is to turn the phone’s power off when/before I get home. One of the inconveniences is two step verification where I have to get a code texted to my phone for certain websites/accounts I have to use. In the future I am thinking of getting an authenticator app or password manager on another device for this purpose, but for now, if I have to receive the 2FA code, I could power my phone on only for a few seconds and power it off immediately after inputting the code. However, needing to have the phone for 2FA makes the next phase of my plan a hassle. In the future, I want to obtain a special time lock safe (or use a safe with the combination saved in the timelock online lockbox) to lock myself out from the phone for certain periods of time. One of the timelock safes I researched is bypassable by removing the batteries I think, so it might not be an option.

So because I disabled the time limits for texting in the Lock Me Out app, and I may not consistently turn my smartphone’s power off, I am back in the situation where I could waste entire evenings after work spending time on my phone, which seems like a problem to me, but I do not want to be on a smartphone where I am severely restricted. If the phone is powered off, and not locked up in a safe, if I really want to text, I can just get the phone and power it back on.

I also struggle with the inconvenience of powering my smartphone off. It is really convenient to listen to the relaxing music stations on my phone with my bluetooth earphones to block out outside sound in the apartment I live in. With turning off my phone, if I wanted to listen to music with my wireless earphones, I would have more of a hassle of having to turn my laptop on to stream the music, and I think if I run the laptop all the time when I am at home that it wears on the battery so that the laptop gets more worn down sooner in time. I may want to get an iPad or alternate device locked down with restrictions in the future where I can stream music. And there is also an inconvenience where if the laptop connects to the bluetooth earphones, it will always take precedence over connection to the phone, meaning I will have to remove the earphones in settings on the computer if I want to connect them to the phone.

Another inconvenience with powering off the phone is I cannot easily look up phone numbers and make calls, so if I want to call with my landline, I have to use the laptop to look up phone numbers. This inconvenience has sometimes resulted in me deciding to keep the smartphone turned on when I get home to make the call.

CLEEB · 2025-11-23T13:27:06-0600

soldier of light said:
Jesus can teach anyone. That's what my eyes see in scripture

The only teacher is GOD through Jesus Christ the mediator. We are taught of GOD. If anyone learns from the FATHER they must go through Christ. This eliminates deception, GOD cannot lie, neither can Jesus.

CLEEB · 2025-11-23T13:20:38-0600

Akita Suggagaki said:
Our responsibility lies in working for the Lord, whether it is in “looking after orphans or widows in distress” (James 1:27), giving to the hungry, the naked, visiting those in prison (Matthew 25:35-36), serving in our workplace (Colossians 3:22), or doing whatever we do (Colossians 3:23). And our motivation is that we have God’s own promise that our work “is not in vain” in the Lord “since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving” (Colossians 3:24).

What you have listed has nothing to do with politics. I do agree with them but I don’t do these things through government, I do them personally when I see a need and am able to help. These works cannot be ours but GODS work of love in us. Ephesians 2:10 Philippians 2:13 We do not earn salvation by any works of our own we are GODS workmanship. GOD planned our works in advance. Just as Jesus said his FATHER did the works, John 10:14 John 5:19,30 Jesus here sets the example for us that we also do no works, the FATHER does them. In this way GOD receives all the glory.

Fervent · 2025-11-23T13:09:00-0600

zoidar said:
I appreciate your respons, but that's a theological conclusion. Dikaiouminoi believes that conclusion can be made from the grammar. It's a bit annoying I can do nothing with his statements. Kind of kills the discussion.

Grammatical arguments like that tend to be fallacious because they treat the text as if it were a technical document when it is not. Your approach of reading further on in the passage is the more appropriate exegetical move, because it deals with the narrative context rather than being deconstructive and creating a foreign context through linguistic games. Language simply doesn't function in the way that is necessary for the technical grammatical arguments to be anything more than puffery.

Hans Blaster · 2025-11-23T12:56:42-0600

Sam266 said:
What do you think NDEs are about if not the afterlife and the survival of the self? I've studied this subject for the past 20 years. It includes reading more than 5000 accounts from around the world.

Failing brains doing weird stuff. Some people recover, most don't. They are also not universal in the "ND" conditions that sometimes induce them.

timothyu · 2025-11-23T12:50:15-0600

timf said:
A question arises as to when the "church" begin.

At Caesarea Philippi when Jesus said it was truth from the Father, and not man,

timf said:
Many consider that all of the promises for Israel

This was the entire House of Israel, all 12 tribes, not just the Jews or Judaea. When Jesus said go first to all nations he meant of the House of Israel, reunite the original kingdom under the Kingdom/governance of the Father.

Fervent · 2025-11-23T12:49:01-0600

There is a point where people lose focus of the Lord by becoming obsessed with their sin, but if your relationship with Christ doesn't result in your abhorring your sin and seeking to be free of it then I can only wonder who it is you are having a relationship with.

timothyu · 2025-11-23T12:29:54-0600

Benaiah468 said:
This prayer movement will culminate in the return of Jesus, the salvation of all Israel, and the completion of G-d's Kingdom ‘on earth as it is in heaven.’

The House of Israel, all 12

timothyu · 2025-11-23T12:24:41-0600

SabbathBlessings said:
it was his own disobedience that killed him, doing something that God told them not to

As it does all of us, ever since it was unleashed in the Garden

biblelesson · 2025-11-23T12:16:53-0600

ChubbyCherub said:
You've explained it well here but still..................I have to pray about it. It's a hard thing to understand

Yes, it can be difficult!

God is a uniplural word
Man is a uniplural word

The whole creation of Man with its billions, upon billions of lives, is still one.

The same as looking at God with Three in the Godhead is still One

A uniplural noun is a word that appears in the plural form but is used for singular and plural subjects alike.

May the Holy Spirit guide your understanding’

Michie · 2025-11-23T12:01:05-0600

Wow….

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eleos1954 · 2025-11-23T11:50:41-0600

Michie said:
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., said Friday night she would resign from Congress in early January. The announcement followed a public breakdown in her relationship with President Donald Trump over issues including the release of Jeffrey Epstein-related files.

In a statement posted to X, Greene said her final day as representative of Georgia’s 14th District will be Jan. 5, 2026, citing Trump’s alleged recent attacks on her as a key reason for her decision.

Trump had called Greene a “traitor” and a “lunatic” after she supported a bill requiring the Department of Justice to disclose its Epstein investigation records, The Christian Post reported earlier this week.

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Marjorie Taylor Greene announces resignation after Trump spat

Rep Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga , said Friday night she would resign from Congress in early January The announcement followed a public breakdown in her relationship with President Donald Trump over

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Trump sees it as a distraction away from what he considers more important matters ... maybe ... but people want to know about it regardless. No doubt it will dominate the news cycle .... people just need to stay on top of the other things going on as well. Focus on all the issues.

Michie · 2025-11-23T11:50:36-0600

Interview with Satan (Dark Humor)

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eleos1954 · 2025-11-23T11:45:24-0600

Bob Crowley said:
I've often mentioned my (old) Presbyterian pastor whom I learnt a lot from, although he discouraged me. The night my father died he turned up in my room.

I was an atheist at the time, but he predicted I'd become Christian, and as part of that "... You will meet a pastor. You'll think he's great, but all he'll do is to discourage you even more!" (than he had himself).

I met the pastor circa 1982/83. When I was going to leave his church in 1991 (I was getting married and moving away) he admitted he had discouraged me, but as I said I still hold him in high respect. Incidentally h was not an admirer of some of the "last days" stuff which comes out of various (mainly Protestant) personalities in the USA in the main, saying "... it's a bit weird..."

But he had some thoughts on the issue. For one thing he was very firm on the business about no man knows the day or the hour of Christ's return. It could be tomorrow, and it could be 10,000 years down the track. We haven't been told.

However I find that if he thought something would happen it did sooner or later. Several of his predictions have come to pass since he died in 1992, including my becoming Catholic (1997); there would be a lot of priestly pedophile cases after I became Catholic (media from around 2002); my sister would get leukemia and not live very long which happened (2005 aged 45); his own eldest son would have a major health breakdown which was a stroke (1996 or 97); there would be a pandemic (Covid 2020); there would be a second Gulf War as the "... Americans will have had enough of Saddam Hussein and they will get rid of him. But I think they will lose a FEW men the next time (2003); I'd make a silly mistake at work and "they" would use that to get rid of me (1995); etc. These were all predicted and they all happened.

He wasn't an admirer of Zionism, commenting that ".... they've served their purpose ..." (it's up to the Jews to recognise Christ, not the other way round). But he also conjectured "I think He (God) is going to drive us off the planet... I think we'll learn to teleport..."

He died in 1992, and (from Wikipedia) "the first successful The first successful experimental quantum teleportation of a photon's polarization was achieved by two independent research groups in 1997", five years later.

It's a long cry from that event to teleporting material objects, and even more so living creatures which have a spirit.

But I think we'll get around that obstacle eventually, although there will most likely be a considerable hiatus between the first inanimate teleportation and the first biological teleportation.

We've moved a long way in space travel since World War II. Robert Goddard's rockets might have gone a couple of hundred feet into the air in the 1920's. The V2's were flying about 250 kms in 1944; and NASA landed men on the moon a mere 25 years later. And of course we now have AI and robotics both of which would be absolutely necessary for a civilisation in space. It's obvious God is letting us do these things, which implies they form part of His plan.

As Dietrich Bonhoeffer might have put it, Man has "Come of Age".

Now suppose his prediction happens, that God does indeed drive us off the planet - what price Jerusalem or for that matter Rome in a civilisation which might be spread through a fair section of the Milky Way? I'm Catholic and I accept the Petrine Chair - Christ was setting up an office and giving the church authority when He declared Peter the Rock.

But I know of no Biblical mandate for Rome to be the "eternal city".

The way politics is going we could well be heading for nuclear wars, and those cities could easily be destroyed.

So I'm not over impressed with hardline pronunciations about either Jerusalem or Rome for that matter. In the end they're just cities.

That's my cold blooded view, and that's what I think.

Just follow the Lamb wherever He goes .... can't go wrong with that ;o)

Nithavela · 2025-11-23T11:37:30-0600

Valletta said:
The crime problems are similar to those in New York City, Chicago, and San Francisco. Older Asian women are targets. Add to that poor planning. The system should not have been above ground and the above ground system was put on street level which means now putting in turnstiles instead of the current honor system would be extremely expensive. A number of homeless simply lived on the rail cars or at the stops. Instead of focusing on the perpetrators of the crimes St. Paul was working on reparations and "gun violence." Repeat offenders do not seem to phase them.

St. Paul becomes first city in coalition to pass gun violence prevention ordinance

St. Paul, Minnesota, has adopted a comprehensive gun violence prevention ordinance on Wednesday. The ordinance bans assault-style weapons and high-capacity magazines. It was passed unanimously by the City Council.

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You know, if mankind went extinct, all those safety issues would go away.

ChubbyCherub · 2025-11-23T11:36:47-0600

SabbathBlessings said:
Hi Chubby,

You might like this Bible study on Revelation and than they go into Daniel. Its 112 episodes that are about 30 minutes each. There are two pastors and two lay people going through the Book of Revelations and this is a great study.

Revelation is highly symbolic but the Bible explains what these symbols means clearly, if we allow Scriptures to interpret Scripture.

Anyway, it was a Bible study I really enjoyed, listened to it twice. If you go through it please be sure to have your Bible handy, because its pretty much just going through it word for word.

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Thank you very, very much! I will take a look!

I have not read Revelations with the family yet so any assistance with what I know will be a million questions will be gratefully received.

Michie · 2025-11-23T11:20:54-0600

University ignores deception, blatant policy violation

A Gender Studies professor has secretly booked rooms for Irish 4 Reproductive Health (I4RH) using a fake club name. I4RH, an unofficial student group, uses the reservations to meet and distribute contraceptives on campus—a direct violation of university rules.

Professor Pamela Butler, Associate Director and Director of Undergraduate Studies for the Gender Studies Department, books the rooms under the “Gender Studies Club,” an organization that does not exist on Notre Dame’s club database. I4RH uses Butler’s reservations to host students in Debartolo Hall, where the group distributes free “resource bags” for attendees, which contain condoms, Plan B, and cards with information on abortion services for students.

As I4RH told the Rover, the group is “not affiliated with the University in any official capacity, nor do we intend to be.” Student Activities Office (SAO) guidelines limit the use of campus rooms to official student clubs only, which would prevent I4RH from meeting on campus in an official capacity. Despite this, I4RH uses Instagram to publicly advertise its meetings in Debartolo Hall.

Butler primarily researches “feminist, queer, and trans theories of race and racialization” and “reproductive politics,” according to the Gender Studies website. She teaches courses on “Feminist and Queer Prison Studies,” “Race and the Politics of Reproduction,” and “New Readings in Transgender Theory,” which she is offering this spring.

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Associate Director of Gender Studies Secretly Books Rooms for Condom, Plan B Distribution - Irish Rover

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Michie · 2025-11-23T11:16:13-0600

Ahead of his upcoming Apostolic Journey to Türkiye, Pope Leo issues the Apostolic Letter 'In unitate fidei' on the 1700th Anniversary of the Council of Nicaea, broken down into 12 points, with the hope of "encouraging the whole Church to renew her enthusiasm for the profession of faith."

Ahead of his upcoming Apostolic Journey to Türkiye, Pope Leo XIV issued on Sunday, 23 November, the Solemnity of Christ the King, the Apostolic Letter 'In unitate fidei' on the 1700th Anniversary of the Council of Nicaea.

The full Letter, which has the hope of "encouraging the whole Church to renew her enthusiasm for the profession of faith," is broken down into twelve points, and can be read in its entirety HERE.

In 2025, the Catholic Church is commemorating the 1,700th anniversary of the First Council of Nicaea, convened in 325 AD by Emperor Constantine I in the city of Nicaea.

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Pope Leo issues Apostolic Letter 'In unitate fidei' on Nicaea Anniversary - Vatican News

Ahead of his upcoming Apostolic Journey to Türkiye, Pope Leo issues the Apostolic Letter 'In unitate fidei' on the 1700th Anniversary of the Council ...

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Michie · 2025-11-23T11:07:09-0600

The Sisters Adorers of the Royal Heart of Jesus Christ Sovereign Priest are drawing young women who seek a contemplative life rooted in tradition, adoration and prayer for priestly vocations.

NAPLES, Italy — Since its foundation 35 years ago, the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest has inspired men and women to embrace a traditional vocation dedicated to honor God and the sanctification of priests in the service of the Church and souls.

Animated by a deeply missionary spirit, the institute seeks to spread the reign of Our Lord Jesus Christ in all spheres of human life.

Today, the Institute of Christ the King includes 147 canons and 108 seminarians serving in 13 countries around the world, carrying out their apostolic work in the churches entrusted to them, in schools and missions in Africa and through retreats, catechesis and spiritual guidance.

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‘Bride of Christ’: Meet the Sisters Adorers Dedicating Lives to Praying for Priests

The Sisters Adorers of the Royal Heart of Jesus Christ Sovereign Priest are drawing young women who seek a contemplative life rooted in tradition, adoration and prayer for priestly vocations.

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Desk trauma · 2025-11-23T11:00:59-0600

essentialsaltes said:
state subsidization of abortions

What are the odds of Israel getting called out on this? Zero? It’s zero right?

Michie · 2025-11-23T10:55:00-0600

Celebrating Christ the King: 12 Interesting Facts About Christ the Redeemer Statue

Learn the little-known story of a Catholic princess who worked to end slavery in Brazil.

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