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Pope Leo XIV: My priority is the Gospel, not solving the world’s problems

Pope Leo XIV said his primary role as leader of the Church is confirming Catholics in their faith and sharing the Gospel with the world, not resolving global crises.

Speaking to Crux senior correspondent Elise Ann Allen in the first sit-down interview of his pontificate, Leo also said he was "trying not to continue to polarize or promote polarization in the Church.”

Leo’s first formal interview as pope took place as part of the biography “Leo XIV: Citizen of the World, Missionary of the 21st Century,” by Allen, out now in Spanish and next year in English.

“I don’t see my primary role as trying to be the solver of the world’s problems. I don’t see my role as that at all, really, although I think that the Church has a voice, a message that needs to continue to be preached, to be spoken and spoken loudly,” he said.

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Newsome calls out Trump for making up stories again...

‘Take your dementia meds, grandpa’: Newsom takes aim at Trump over ‘lie’ about California’s wildfire rebuild

Newsom has taken to using Trump-style social media digs as he spars with the Republican president
“How unfair is that to the people that have suffered so much!” Trump continued. “Newscum allowed their houses to burn by not accepting Hundreds of Millions of Gallons of Water from the Pacific Northwest, and now, the Low Income Housing starts rising long before he gets Permits for California Citizens to rebuild, but long after the Federal Permits were issued.”
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“Take your dementia meds, grandpa,” the governor’s office wrote on X. “You are making things up again.”
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The post from Newsom’s office claimed Trump’s message had at least five lies, saying there was no new state effort to build low-income housing in the Palisades and water from the Pacific Northwest doesn’t even reach California hydrants. The governor’s office added that the city and county of Los Angeles have approved nearly 900 rebuilding permits, while there’s no such thing as a federal housing permit.


Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass had a similar take, responding to Trump’s diatribe with a one-word post on X: “Lies.”

Bad time for Donald Trump, whose approval rate dropped to 39% in the last You/Gov Poll:

Trump approval falls to new second-term low

  • 39% of Americans strongly or somewhat approve of Donald Trump's job performance as president, while 57% disapprove
    • The 39% of Americans who approve of Trump is the lowest share to do so in any weekly Economist / YouGov Poll in Trump's second term
    • The 57% who disapprove is the most to do so in Trump's second term
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The Conjunction of Opposites

“The opposites always balance one another—good and evil, beauty and ugliness, love and hate, spirit and matter. Heaven and hell are born together. The dissolution of opposites is the precondition of the highest consciousness.”

That's an interesting philosophical musing, but I don't put much stock in Carl Jung's view on theoretical psychology.
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New belief among teenagers. What do you think?

So, my question is, do we really as a society want to encourage and coddle this delusional lifestyle where grown people have social problems because of this fad/trend? Here's one that got me. A person had their ears made pointed (plastic surgery) so they would look like an elf. This self expression is wrong and it should not be encouraged and it is totally bizarre that the medical and psychiatric fields have nothing intelligent to say about it. Their attitude seems to be, "let them do what they want, they aren't harmful". Really?!!!
Getting plastic surgery to resemble an elf is extreme. However, the percentage of fantasy fans who do so is negligible. Furry is an offshoot of the science fiction fandom that overlaps with the fantasy fandom. Enjoying science fiction or fantasy doesn't mean you want to become Frodo Baggins or Captain Janeway. It doesn't even necessarily mean you want to roleplay as a fictional character. Some do and some don't. There isn't one unified furry lifestyle much like there isn't one unified fantasy or science fiction fan lifestyle.

Furries tend to be imaginative people. Many of whom are creative in fields like art and technology. We need to decouple this from unhealthy behavior. Some are healthy and some are unhealthy. A furry with psychological problems is a human being who needs help. The others are about as harmful as the typical healthy person. That's why the medical and psychiatric establishments don't have much to say about them. Anthropomorphic animal characters were popular long before the fandom became a thing and liking them isn't a disorder.
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Charlie Kirk's murder: What the First Amendment doesn't protect

In the wake of Charlie Kirk’s assassination, one would expect sympathy for him and his family. Calls for peace. Well wishes for his family. An overall desire for things to get better.

But that is not what happened.

Horrific comments filled the internet. Lies about Kirk. Calls that other people, including his wife, to be killed next. This development only compounds the despair. It tells us that the bloodlust was not isolated. The murder came with the support of a very vocal minority that fostered the online environment that incited Kirk’s killer.

Consider comments like this one by a policeman, which accused Kirk of being “openly racist” and, as a result, “ain’t really winning in the empathy department.” Or this one saying that Kirk “hated the LGBTQ community.” Thismusician said that more political violence will have to happen against conservatives to have “a better world.” Or this one that says “lets make more martyrs.” Stephen King lied about Kirk, saying he had openly advocated for stoning “gays,” which he later admitted was not true.

These employees act surprised when they get fired or suspended from their jobs. This has led these recently terminated people, or media personalities like Don Lemon, wrongly invoking “free speech.” The term is thrown about without any understanding of its limits.

It should be prefaced by saying that all First Amendment cases have to be evaluated on their individual merits. So, any individual example cannot be generalized within an op-ed. But there are general principles that do not seem to be understood.

First, the First Amendment only restricts the government from regulating speech. But this does not limit the consequences of speech, especially if one is privately employed. An employer likely does not wish to employ someone who advocates for violence or knowingly spreads lies.

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Pray that Jesus Christ Immediately Stops the spread of the deadly brain-eating amoeba in the provincial state region of Kerala, India

Pray that Jesus Christ Immediately Stops the spread of the deadly brain-eating amoeba in the provincial state region of Kerala, India:

Charlie Kirk and Our Christian Founding

Sorry if I missed this one if already posted. Possibly, there wasn't a transcript of his incredible talent on display. If his response is not fit for Christians to comment on here, then that is really unfortunate. This video (scroll down) which I believe has been out for some months has been hacked up depending on where you go to get it. This transcript is the fullest I could find and it is a little fuller than the video (sorry). Otherwise, enjoy patriots!

Charlie Kirk and America’s Christian Founding (Q&A)

Questioner: As stated yesterday by a couple of my friends that our country was not founded on Christian principles. Our country was founded on common law. Uh because the declaration only refers to God four times and in the Constitution doesn't refer to God at all. It Only articulated the structure of government. And, is common law Christian in nature or is it not.

Charlie Kirk: So, first of all, remember that we were a collection of states and colonies and you need to read the state constitutions before anything else. Nine out of 13 of the original states required you to be a Bible believing Christian to serve in government. All 13 required you to have a declaration of faith, nine out of the thirteen required you to be a Protestant, except Maryland which was Catholic which still required a declaration. In almost every single one of the original state constitutions, Pennsylvania included, they had I profess Lord in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior in the original state constitutions. Secondly, 55 out of 56 of the original signers of the declaration were Bible believing church attending Christians.

You asked about common law. So common law is inherited from Blackstone who was Christian. It a common law is an outgrowth of the scriptures. So let's go to three principles of common law.

1. Presumption of innocence,​
2. Due process,
3. Jury of your peers.

All three are biblical principles. So, and all wrapped into the ultimate biblical principle that you shall not favor justice if you are richer or poor, which is in Leviticus 19. Right before most famous part of Leviticus 19, which is that you should love your neighbor as yourself. But before that is that in the administration of justice, you shall not favor the rich or the poor, which is the idea of blind justice. We get that in the west, which is incorporated also in the New Testament ideal, “neither slave nor Greek nor Jew. You're all one in Jesus Christ”. So, we got the idea of human equality. These are all biblical ideas. Is they're not enlightenment ideas, which is they kind of get conflated at the time.

But more importantly than that, they say that God was only mentioned four times in the Declaration of Independence. Well, that's a big deal. Okay. Laws of nature and nature's God. The last paragraph of the declaration reads as a prayer. It says, "We appeal to the supreme judge of the universe”. Who's the judge of the universe? Jesus Christ. As it says in Revelation that Jesus will judge the earth on his throne. This. So in the declaration they were praying to Christ our Lord as a prayer very specifically.

Thirdly as I said on stage yesterday, Deuteronomy was by far the most quoted book religious or non-religious in the time of the founding when they were putting together constitution more than John Lock, more than Montisscu, more than Blackstone. So the book of Deuteronomy which talked about laws, customs, traditions, it was Moses farewell address as he's, you know, about to say goodbye. Say, "Hey, good luck in Canaan guys. Here's how you should set up your form of government."

But finally, and most importantly, let's look at actually what the founders said. John Adams seamlessly said, "The Constitution was only written for a moral and religious people. It was holy and adequate for the people of any other.” The body politic of America was so Christian and was so Protestant that our form and structure of government was built for the people that believed in Christ our Lord. One of the reasons we're living through a constitutional crisis is that we no longer have a Christian nation but we have a Christian form of government and they're incompatible. So you cannot have liberty if you do not have a Christian population.

So then they'll go to the first amendment which is has two parts of the first amendment which get conflated. First of all, separation church and state is not in the US constitution. That is a single letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1807 to the Danbury Baptist Convention in Massachusetts assuring them that the government would not come after the church. Okay, which is the opposite of what they would say. However, that was then resurrected by the Warren Court and the Burger Court in the 60s where they said, "Hey, you know, all of a sudden we're now going to make this as if it's the Constitution."

It does say in the Constitution two things, which is the establishment clause and the free free expression clause. The establishment clause is that Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise thereof. What they were most worried about was a Presbyterian or, a Anglican or, a Quaker type religion taking over Federal Government, Instead, it was that there is not going to be a state-run religion or a state-run government. Did you know that one of the first acts of Congress was taxpayer funded Bible printing and distribution? Did you know there were Church services held in the Supreme Court building as late as the Jackson presidency in the 1820s? But going back to this idea of separation of church and state, it's not constitutional because you go a layer deeper.

People that even say that, do you believe in separation of morality and state? Nobody does. So all laws are reflection of morality and all morality comes from somewhere. There is no such thing as neutral morality. And we believe what the founders believe because they put it in the halls of Congress. They put it in the Supreme Court and they put it all throughout the country which is that the decalogue the ten commandments, is the core morality of how a society and a civilization should should exist. Right? The the ten commandments of every person. And finally and this is the kicker. If the founding fathers were not Bible believing church uh church Christians, why did they put Leviticus on the liberty bill? Not John, not Psalms, not Proverbs, not Genesis. Leviticus. Most Americans can't spell Leviticus. Leviticus 25:19. Proclaim liberty throughout the land of which you are in.

It is one of the most sinister, most unsubstantiated lies that does not come up against any sort of academic scrutiny. This idea the founding fathers were a bunch of enlightenment common law deists.

The reason they hate it is because if they the reason they must say this is that if we actually go back to our Christian roots and we go back to where we once were, it's America's best hope for revival and for a great future."

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I like Charlie Kirk, but I think it's more accurate historically to say that the U.S. was strongly influenced by Christianity through a plurality of Christian traditions brought over from Europe rather than that it was objectively and clearly founded upon the Christian faith. We need to be more willing to admit into our overall evaluations the various historical evidences both pro and con which exist so we don't end up pushing a narrative supported by an interpretation born out of confirmation bias.

With that said, of course it would be preferable if our nation could turn to Jesus Christ in every aspect of its civic and spiritual identity. I'm not sure that will ever happen, but it would be preferable.
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Al from NY

Hello,

My name is Al from Westchester, NY. I was raised RC, but non practicing for many years. I did do 16 years of parochial schools, elementary through college. I have a friend that introduced me to the "Through the Word" app. I have beed listening to it for 4 weeks now and I have been reading the NIV bible. Eeven though they are both "Protestant", I consider myself a Christian first and a RC second. I find the NIV study bible a little easier to read than the Catholic NABRE version. I plan to go back to the NABRE version eventually. I'm retired now, so I do have the time. I just registered at my local parish and plan to go back to mass soon, but I also hope to go to a non denominational church with my Evangelist friend. I feel that I'm on the right path and grateful that I have decided to trully listen to God's word.
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CAN YOU HAVE GOD'S GRACE WITHOUT GOD'S LAW?

The commandments in the law which God gave show what sin is, and sin is separating any from God. God's grace is needed and with Christ sent from God and the way of atonement provided through his all he did for it the way of deliverance is provided, with faith that is with our repentance that has it possible through Christ. This is not removing us from commandments but from judgment with the law. The sins they show are such for us to turn from in coming to God to willingly live in God's will for us.
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John 4:23–24: How Should We Worship God in Spirit and in Truth?

From the moment we start believing in the Lord, although we may pray, read the Bible and sing hymns every day, and go to church, praise the Lord, and listen to sermons every week, does worshiping God in spirit and in truth involve only these external practices? We can recall that when the Samaritan woman asked the Lord Jesus where she should worship God, and the Lord Jesus replied: “The hour comes, when you shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. … when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeks such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth” (John 4:21, 23–24). The Lord Jesus clearly told people God’s will and requirements: It doesn’t matter where one worships God, nor should one follow any rule or ceremony, but rather one must worship God in spirit and in truth. This is also our principle of practice for worshiping God. But most of the time we only focus our effort on our external practices; we are careful to pray a little longer and say a little more; we read verses in the Bible over and over, trying to memorize them; we attend church in all weather, wind or rain, hot or cold; we organize all kinds of activities or put on various shows to praise the Lord, and we always take part with a positive attitude; and so on. From the outside, we appear to be expending much effort and paying a high price to praise the Lord, and that we suffer greatly, but how many times do we speak what’s in our hearts when we pray to God? How many times during the course of reading the Bible, singing hymns or attending church and listening to sermons do we make efforts to be close to God and contemplate the Lord’s words? How many times as we worship God do we seek the Lord’s will and understanding of the Lord’s words? Some brothers and sisters have practiced in this way for many years, yet they still don’t understand the truth, they have no knowledge of the Lord, and when things happen to them, they still sin frequently and live within the bondage and constraints of sin. In this we are faced with a serious problem, which is that most of the time we spend praying, reading the Bible, going to church and listening to sermons, we are merely going through the motions. We are not actually worshiping God in spirit and in truth, nor are we practicing the truth to satisfy God. No matter how well we may keep to these external practices, God does not approve.

So, how can we worship God in spirit and in truth as we pray or read the Bible? Let’s read a passage of God’s words together. God’s words say, “A normal spiritual life is a life lived before God. When praying, one can quiet one’s heart before God, and through prayer, one can seek the Holy Spirit’s enlightenment, know God’s words, and understand God’s will. By eating and drinking of His words, people can gain a clearer and more thorough understanding of God’s current work. They can also gain a new path of practice, and will not cling to the old; what they practice will all be to achieve growth in life. As for prayer, it is not about speaking a few nice-sounding words or breaking down in tears before God to show how indebted you are; rather, its purpose is to train oneself in the use of the spirit, allowing one to quiet one’s heart before God, to train oneself to seek out guidance from God’s words in all matters, so that one’s heart can be drawn to a fresh new light each day, and so that one will not be passive or lazy and may set foot upon the right track of putting God’s words into practice

Normandt' meditations

234. Can we even imagine





Let’s embark with the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit and receive the fruits of the Spirit. Let’s welcome everything from the Trinity.

The person who doesn’t maintain the quality of their vehicle for a very long journey may discover that the destination might get longer and demand more time. The transmission chain of our life is the Holy Spirit and we need to make sure he’s constantly with us. May our hearts be in order to receive the Holy Spirit, to continue on the path of salvation and for the salvation of our neighbour.



Let’s not limit the Holy Spirit. We would take one reality and close ourselves to the other graces of the Holy Spirit? Let’s not do that. We cannot limit the Holy Spirit without limiting ourselves.



We have not finished discovering him and he will surprise us. Let’s dare to let the Holy Spirit ignite and illuminate us with all his fires.

Jesus proposes to evangelize:

“Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you.” Matthew, chapter 28, verses 19 to 20a



Can we even imagine all the graces we receive to go on a mission, if we listen to him?



It is the Spirit of Jesus and the Father who guides his Church, who guides us in our journey, which is our guarantee of the presence of Jesus in us. We have the special grace of being in the Catholic Church with a marked dimension of the Holy Spirit. This is the Blessing for the Church. It’s a privilege for us.

The Holy Spirit is in perfect communion with the Father and the Son. When we pray to the Holy Spirit, it’s impossible to be removed from the Father and the Son. Mary is present too. All the saints are united with us.



In praying the Holy Spirit, we don’t exclude the Father or the Son. The three are eternally one. We don’t favour. We are in God when we walk with the Holy Spirit. We don’t further favour the Holy Spirit.

We know what the Holy Spirit of Jesus and the Father has done so far in our lives. We know what the Holy Spirit is doing in our lives right now. We will then discover what he will achieve by passing through our soul, our heart, our spirit, in the future. We would not believe the extent and possibilities if the Spirit told us all that he’s able to do in us and through us.



Let’s not block the Holy Spirit to one reality. May we not dictate to him what we want. But let him decide what he wants for every person in the Church, to give us strength, justice, temperance, prudence, theological virtues, charisms, gifts, fruits, etc.

Let’s keep the courage and the determination to want the Holy Spirit in our life and to walk together, despite our differences which are so many beauties for each other.



The new American Bible, 2011-2014

Book: Joy in heaven, Normand Thomas
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Which Way Do You Lean Politically?

Politically, if there is a Center, then on either side is leaning to the Right or to the Left for anyone, even if slightly either way.
After voting, elaborate in comments, if you wish.

I am, and always have been, for the peace and order party, which places me above center [not below it] and is clearly represented by this lil' simplistic meme I came up with several years ago:

"I believe in resurrection, not insurrection; I believe in revelation, not revolution!"
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Revelation 12 walk through

We have a nation in the holy Land now, who call themselves Jewish and their nation Israel.
A nation born in a single day fulfilling Isaiah 66:8. And the reunification of the northern nation and southern nation back into one nation fulfilling Ezekiel 37. Jesus soon to return to be the King of Israel embraced by the Jews.
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Christian Artists Remember Charlie Kirk

I didn't notice this being a part of the memorial for Charlie Kirk - I doubt Charlie Kirk would support that type of message.

It's good the artist clarified his intentions behind his words. I would hate for anyone to say such a thing instead of honoring Charlie Kirks memory. .

I quoted the piece in my previous post which was taken from the article. Whether he clarified it or not it didn’t land well and that’s the message the reader hears and what others will reference. They’re not going to look for the explanation. That’s why it’s important to have someone in public relations on staff to avoid gaffe‘s like that.

~bella
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