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A perspective on Baptism and the plan of salvation that I have not heard before

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prodromos said:
If Mary was "kept" from sinning, then there is nothing praiseworthy of her sinlessness.

Mary was conceived with the same nature as every other human since the fall of Adam.
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I see your point of view. By saying Mary was kept from sinning, I did not mean to imply that she lacked free will. It is precisely by her consent that she became the mother of Our Lord. God does not force His will upon us.
Mary was kept from sinning by the grace of God in that the Father did not allow her to be deceived. For us the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. We would always choose the good if we were able, but we don’t and we fall. Mary is virtuous in that she always chooses the good, without counting the cost.

Your second statement is where we differ. It is a theological debate that we need not have unless you are willing.

My post was not meant to mischaracterize your position, but simply a statement that despite our disagreement on Immaculate conception and original sin, we both agree that the Theotokos is sinless. Is that not true?
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Chat thread - Friendship Court edition

bèlla
peaceful-forest said:
I'm going to try to learn Koine Greek again. I really want to read the New Testament in its original language!
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Amazon has a book on sale for $7 on kindle. You have to get it today.

Basics of Biblical Greek Grammar: Fourth Edition (Zondervan Language Basics Series)
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Sept 23rd Rapture

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bèlla said:
The internet is a lab. Never forget that. Everything you do is tracked and measured. I don’t mention that as a scare tactic but in relation to its purpose. This is the best place to gauge reaction and test it too. Everything you see isn’t always from the origin you assume. It isn’t difficult to pay someone to make content and watch the reactions.

Joshua is a good example. He could be a genuine believer or a psyop. I lean towards the latter given the time frame he shared. He was “aware“ of it during the pandemic when the majority were home but didn’t speak. If spoil was the goal that was the perfect time. But we’re in a different position economically and hardship has many longing for home which increases the demand for messages like his.

If you wanted to study christians the internet is the perfect setting. People don’t censor themselves because they’re anonymous or so they believed. They share their thoughts, feelings, experiences and more. It’s a goldmine of data delivered to your enemy. You can’t assume everyone talking is an ordinary Joe. Israel is paying American influencers $7,000 a post to make pro-Israeli content. Do you think they’re the only one? Of course not. The story went viral because of Gaza.

The people watching rapture predictions are drawn for different reasons. I’ve read the comments and the majority are weary and tired of their hardships. I see similar remarks on christian content which leads me to believe it’s not the rapture in itself but a desire for relief that’s driving them.

Bear in mind, most christians listen to different teachers. It’s fairly common. I mentioned the problem with that on Sue’s thread because you can’t track the leaven. And we’re equally blind when we like someone too. We’ve created an avenue for deceit and shouldn’t be surprised when it occurs. But it’s harder to hide because of the internet. Now the world knows the truth.

You should expect more videos like his and ministers too. You’ve proven you’re gullible and the wolves will come. Because weakness has a scent and when people do things like that they’re ripe for the picking.

~bella
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Yes, North America is an experiment.
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I don't like my church - need advice

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It is difficult to form a relationship between and individual and an organization. This can leave people at loose ends. It might be more satisfying to see if you can observe an individual who clearly show the love of Christ in their service and conduct. You might ask that person to help you know Jesus as well as they do.

The key would be to make relational connections with individuals on your own or finding a church so samll that you can help but have relational connections.
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Whose groceries are more Expensive?

bèlla
camille70 said:
Also, contradicting comments made by Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins that the U.S. farm workforce will become “100 percent American” as a result of mass deportations, the Labor Department noted that Americans are not willing to step into farm work and lack the skills to fill agricultural jobs that undocumented immigrants are abandoning.
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Americans have no interest in becoming farm workers and the wages are low. An agency was recruiting for farmers in Louisiana and the rate was $11 for 9-10 hours. That isn’t a livable wage and many are losing their farms now. That isn’t only due to deportation. Their reliance on government subsidies is the problem. The farmers who didn’t are fine.

~bella
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10/7/23 Anniversary Hamas Attacked Israel

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ViaCrucis said:
Please answer the question I asked.
Are Palestinians of equal value as Israelis?
Are Muslims of equal value as Jews (and Christians)?
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I did when I said...
Killing innocent ones world wide is wrong...and hamas is evil.
All innocent life is of value, even innocent ones growing in the womb.

Is your moral rubric just for those you can see outside the womb, but not the innocent growing ones you can't see in the womb?
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