The Venting Thread
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I am going to ask God what I should do....
Because I do not know!!
Because I do not know!!
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That cannot be accomplished in a day.The silence from the “free Palestine” crowd is deafening. Would have thought that freeing Palestine would include freeing it from an oppressive terrorist organization.
True enough. Though, Halligan still needs some excuse, and I just don't see it.I agree that she's done nothing criminal, but that doesn't seem to be an impediment to the current DOJ.
You still say verse 31 goes before verse 30. I showed irrefutable proof yesterday that your claim is in violation of English grammar. The Bible is 100% correct. You are wrong.SDA or not , you need to deal with the actual text itself starting with vs 29
Kinda reminds us of..
Matt 24:
29 “But immediately after the tribulation of those days ...31 And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.
There is no "God's wrath exausted" in vs 28.
But there is vs 29-31 saying that after that tribulation Jesus takes the saints.
Indeed it appears to end in the text with Christ's coming
In fact it is pointing to the sequence of what happens after the tribulation.
We see a lot of sequences in the Bible and yet no rule that every step in Bible sequences must have the word "Jesus" in it
30 And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. 31 And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other. NASB
The term "Son of man" is exactly what we see in Daniel 7 for Christ. And is the term Jesus uses for himself in the Gospels
The text says that the events that follow are all happening immediately after the tribulation not "immediately before the tribulation".
To get the rapture event of vs 31 to be shuffled back BEFORE vs 29 you need to put it before all the tribulation texts that preceed vs 29.
A rather large leap in logical order of the text. Not at all the apparent reading in the text..
SDA or not , having to re-order the chapter out of its sequence merely to service an a priori bias is a form of eisegesis in my POV
Yes, Augustine put it this way:A faith that never existed can’t move mountains. I think what he’s saying is that even a faith strong enough to move mountains is useless without love, which would imply that love isn’t an automatic byproduct of faith. That’s how I read it.
What do you expect of Hollywood?I’m now all but certain there has never been a movie about exorcism that has had Christ at its heart.
I am okay agreeing to disagree.
I'm curious when you say the service is 2.5 hours -- it's normal for the liturgy to be 1.5-1.75 hours, 2 hours tops, and that would be unusual. Are you including matins/orthros in that? I'd really recommend that, if you have a pile of kids just getting used to going to church like this, that you focus on just the liturgy until they're more acclimated. Obviously if the local priest suggests otherwise you should follow his lead, but you have to start by biting off what you can chew.
I wish I had had better teachers when I was younger
Perhaps? But I just wanted you to know that opinions vary of the subject, etc. But, either way, and as for me, I'll stick to what I said in post #53.-A major Biblical error seeing these two different events as being the same event.
“When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’
“Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’
“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’
“Then they also will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
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Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
Get him the New American Standard Bible, easy to read and very accurate.I have a family member that is going through some trouble. He is in his 20s, has money problems, smokes marijuana, and is expecting a baby with his girlfriend.
I have thought about buying this family member a Bible, but I do not know which one to buy him. I believe his current problems are happening and God is allowing them so that this family member will turn to Christ for salvation.
What recommendations do you all have?
Thanks.