Vanellus said:

A lay preacher I had a lot of time for as a young Christian told me a basic principle: "The OT is in the NT revealed, the NT is in the OT concealed). And I've been thinking there is a warning here not to take the OT as normative without reference to the OT. A good example is why Christians believe that the system of OT sacrifices of animals don't apply to the Church today.

But I wonder if there are not more examples. Now I know some Christians make a lot of

Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
Mt 5:17-20

But, in Jesus' day, those commandments would include the commandments for animal sacrifices that were still being done in Jesus' time.

Another aspect of the OT is there's a lot of wars and killing. If Israel was successful on the battlefield (i.e. killed lots of people) then that meant God was blessing them and vice versa. When Jericho fell we read:

They devoted the city to the Lord and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys. Josh 6:21
The donkeys might lead them into idolatry! Everyone seems to include babies.

David is praised not so much for his poetry but for killing lots of people. Joshua holds up Moses' arms so the Israelites can kill lots of Amalekites:
So Joshua fought the Amalekites as Moses had ordered, and Moses, Aaron and Hur went to the top of the hill. 11As long as Moses held up his hands, the Israelites were winning, but whenever he lowered his hands, the Amalekites were winning. 12When Moses’ hands grew tired, they took a stone and put it under him and he sat on it. Aaron and Hur held his hands up—one on one side, one on the other—so that his hands remained steady till sunset. 13So Joshua overcame the Amalekite army with the sword.
Ex 17:10-13

And there are many more examples in the OT. Not exactly blessed are the peacemakers or turning the other cheek. So I think we need to be very careful about drawing moral lessons for Christian behaviour from things that were done in the OT narratives or history books. Reference should always be made to the relevant teaching in the NT and we should interpret the OT in the light of the NT not vice versa. So hopefully any donkeys that might stray into a church in the next few weeks will be safe.

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According to our risen Lord, God and Savior in the closing paragraphs of the Resurrection Gospel in Luke ch. 24 the Old Testament is Christological prophecy. That should be how we interpret it.

FredVB said:

But there was real repentance, that is essential.

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The thief spoke truthfully, that he was a thief deserving his fate. the second time he spoke, and asked Jesus to remember him

Honesty in the face of God seemingly went a long way

I’m really surprised, to be honest.

bob121 said:

ViaCrucis, thank you for painting the altar-side scene—“Mt. Calvary present here and now” is exactly the kind of threshold moment I was hoping to collect.
I’ll happily let the mods shuffle the thread if they wish; in the meantime, keep the pictures coming, everyone—sounds, smells, sights, or silent heart-flips that tell you, “I’m on holy ground.”

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I would add removing one’s shoes in a Coptic or Ethiopian Orthodox parish.

Valletta said:

Some liberals are acknowledging Trump's successes:

Charlie Sheen Blasts His Father Martin Sheen for Attacking Trump Right After He Brokered Gaza Peace Deal

Actor Charlie Sheen said his father's criticism of President Donald Trump was poorly timed because the "West Wing" star's attack came on the same day that Trump was the toast of the world due to his Gaza peace deal.

www.breitbart.com

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Please answer the question.

BryanJohnMaloney said:

They took control of those corporations at that time? I was not aware of that. Socialism is the control of the means of production and commerce by the state.

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It is also taxing the people and giving money to they feel need it. Giving corporations tax money is socialistic, just as medicade, etc.. is.

AstralHammer said:

I'll join. If it turns out not for me, then that's ok. I wont know til I try.

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sounds good what's your discord, even if it doesn't work i'd like to game with other believers, even if me and you started a christian group

Opening Prayer
Heavenly Father, You are the God who restores. You see the wounds of our hearts, the losses we have endured, and the seasons that felt stripped bare. Yet You promise that nothing is wasted in Your hands. Thank You for being faithful to redeem what was taken and for reminding me that restoration is not only possible, but certain in Your timing. May this devotional be a reminder that You are the Potter, shaping me into a vessel of honor, and that my latter days can be greater than my beginning. In Jesus Mighty Name, Amen.

Devotional Message
Key Verse: “And the Lord restored Job’s losses when he prayed for his friends. Indeed the Lord gave Job twice as much as he had before.” Job 42:10 (NKJV)
Job’s story is one of profound loss and miraculous restoration. He lost his possessions, his family, his health, and even the support of those closest to him. Yet when he prayed for his friends, God restored him. His wealth was doubled, his family renewed, and his latter days were blessed more than his beginning. Job’s testimony became a witness of God’s faithfulness across generations, showing that restoration often comes after obedience and forgiveness.

Joel’s prophecy echoes this truth: “So I will restore to you the years that the swarming locust has eaten…” (Joel 2:25 NKJV).

God’s promise is that what feels wasted will never remain wasted in His hands. He redeems time, fruitfulness, and dignity. Restoration is not only about material things but about peace, joy, and testimony being renewed.

Jeremiah 30:17 assures us: “For I will restore health to you and heal you of your wounds,” says the Lord. (NKJV). His restoration touches every part of our lives - body, mind, soul and spirit.

When I read Job 42:10, I sensed God confirming to me that, He is working on my behalf to restore what was stolen. Just as Job’s restoration followed forgiveness and prayer, my act of forgiving those who wronged me has opened the door for renewal. The “doubling” may not always be material, but it will be seen in spiritual fruit, ministry impact, and the quiet dignity of restoration. God’s reassurance is like a steady anchor. Even when circumstances feel uncertain, His promises remain unshaken.
Scripture confirms this promise across generations: God restores time and seasons lost (Joel 2:25 NKJV), health and dignity (Jeremiah 30:17 NKJV), and gives a double portion of honor and joy (Isaiah 61:7 NKJV). He restores joy, strength, and peace (Psalm 51:12 NKJV; 1 Peter 5:10 NKJV), and rebuilds what was ruined, bringing new beginnings (Amos 9:14 NKJV; Isaiah 43:19 NKJV). Undoubtedly, the latter days can be greater than the beginning, and what was consumed will be redeemed for His glory. Restoration is God’s work, not mine; forgiveness and obedience unlock blessing, and my testimony - like Job’s - will echo His faithfulness.

And the Lord restored Job’s losses when he prayed for his friends. Indeed the Lord gave Job twice as much as he had before. Job 42:10 (NKJV)

Meaning: Job’s restoration began with forgiveness. His willingness to pray for his friends - the very ones who had misunderstood and accused him - revealed humility and obedience. God honored this posture by restoring him abundantly. This shows us that restoration is not triggered by demanding justice or clinging to bitterness, but by surrendering to God’s way of mercy.

Application: Forgiveness is often the hardest step, yet it is the key that unlocks renewal. When I intercede for others, even those who hurt me, I align myself with God’s heart. My prayers become seeds of blessing, and God’s favor flows into my life. Restoration begins when I let go of resentment and choose obedience.

Affirmation: I choose forgiveness and prayer, knowing that God’s restoration flows through humility. My obedience opens the door for His blessing, and my prayers for others invite His renewal into my own journey.

“So I will restore to you the years that the swarming locust has eaten…” Joel 2:25 (NKJV)

Meaning: The locusts symbolize destruction, wasted time, and fruitfulness consumed. God’s promise is that even years stripped bare by pain or emptiness can be redeemed. He is Lord over time itself, able to restore dignity, fruitfulness, and joy.

Application: I can trust that no season of my life is wasted. Even the barren years are woven into God’s plan of redemption. What felt consumed will be renewed, whether through ministry impact, fresh opportunities, or renewed joy. His timing redeems what seemed lost forever.

Affirmation: I believe God is redeeming my lost seasons. What was consumed will be returned in abundance, and my testimony will shine with His faithfulness.

“For I will restore health to you and heal you of your wounds,” says the Lord. Jeremiah 30:17 (NKJV)

Meaning: God’s restoration is holistic. He heals physical wounds, emotional scars, and spiritual weariness. His renewal touches every part of life, bringing wholeness where brokenness once reigned. Restoration is not partial - it is complete healing.

Application: In weakness, I can cling to His promise of healing. Whether I face physical pain, emotional scars, or spiritual fatigue, God’s restoration brings wholeness. His healing is both present and eternal, renewing me daily and preparing me for eternity.

Affirmation: My health, joy, and peace are being restored by the Lord’s faithful hand. I am being renewed from the inside out, and His healing is my testimony.

“Instead of your shame you shall have double honor… everlasting joy shall be theirs.” Isaiah 61:7 (NKJV)

Meaning: God replaces shame with honor and sorrow with joy. His blessings exceed losses, showing His abundant grace. Restoration is not equal exchange but overflowing abundance. Where shame once defined me, dignity now reigns.

Application: Even when I feel diminished or overlooked, God promises to lift me up. His restoration is abundant, replacing shame with dignity and sorrow with joy. He does not simply balance the scales - He pours out double honor.

Affirmation: I rejoice in the portion God has given me. My shame is replaced with honor, and His joy is everlasting in my life.

“Behold, I will do a new thing… I will even make a road in the wilderness and rivers in the desert.” Isaiah 43:19 (NKJV)

Meaning: God’s restoration is creative and surprising. He brings life where there was barrenness and makes a way where there was no way. His new beginnings spring forth in unexpected places, proving His power to transform desolation into abundance.

Application: I can expect renewal even in desolate places. His restoration is not limited by my circumstances; He creates rivers in deserts and paths in wilderness. What feels impossible becomes possible in His hands.

Affirmation: God is making a way in my wilderness. He is bringing new beginnings, and His rivers of life are flowing into my desert places.

Closing Prayer
Lord, thank You for Your promises of restoration. You are faithful to redeem what was lost, heal what was broken, and multiply what was diminished. Teach me to walk in forgiveness, obedience, and trust, knowing that Your timing is perfect.
May my testimony, like Job’s, echo with hope and encouragement for others. Strengthen me with peace, dignity, and joy as You unfold new beginnings in my life. Anchor me in Your reassurance and let my life shine as a vessel of Your Word, Spirit, and love. In Jesus Mighty Name, Amen

Journalizing Questions to Ponder
1. What losses in my life do I need to trust God to restore?
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2. How does forgiveness open the door to renewal in my journey?
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3. Which scripture on restoration speaks most deeply to my current season?
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4. How can I testify of God’s faithfulness even before restoration is complete?
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5. What new beginnings might God be preparing in areas that feel barren?
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To the Holy Spirit
Thank You for guiding every word, guarding every step, and glorifying Jesus through it all. All glory, honor, praise and worship goes to
God Almighty, for He alone is worthy to receive it all.
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Scripture Acknowledgement: All Scripture quotations are taken from the New King James Version® (NKJV). Used with permission.
All rights reserved. Special thanks to Bible Gateway for providing accessible, searchable Scripture resources that support devotional
writing and spiritual study.
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May these words echo grace, healing, and truth wherever they are read.
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Bro.T said:

Most people today are under Roman Christianity faith. All have sinned (broken the law...Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law (I John 3:4) and the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23). When Jesus (the true Lamb of God) was sacrificed, he removed our past sins. If we accept Jesus as our sin offering, we are required to repent and get baptized IN THE NAME OF JESUS ("there is none other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved..."(Acts 4: 12). This is our last chance Brothers and Sister.

To repent means to turn from our sinful ways and start obeying God's law. The water baptism signifies the washing away of our past sins. After repenting and being baptized in the name of Jesus it would be foolish for us to turn around and willingly break God's commandments. If we make an honest mistake Jesus can help us, but if we sin willingly, after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, look out! "...there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation..." (Hebrews 10:26-27).

When Jesus died, only the sacrificial law was done away with, alone with Leviticus priesthood. We still must obey all of God's laws and statues of conduct, from the ten commandments to the least commandment. We cannot choose to obey one without obeying the others. For instance, if it's still good to pay tithes (as many preach), then it is still good to obey God's dietary law (not eating pork, catfish, etc...Leviticus 11:1-47). Similarly, you cannot purposely trip a blind person (Leviticus 19:14) and claim to love your neighbor as yourself. Neither can you break God's Sabbath days (Leviticus 19:30) and claim to love God with all your heart, soul and mind.

Many fight to uphold man's traditional holidays (Sunday the 1st day as the Sabbath, Christmas, Easter and Halloween), but few are obeying God's Holy Days (Saturday the 7th day Sabbath, the Passover, Pentecost, etc...Leviticus 23:1-44). All of God's laws are still good and must be obeyed if we want eternal life. We might not be able to observe everything perfectly, but can fight a good fight. Paul said in (1 Cor. 9:24-27) (v.24) Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. (v.25) And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown: but we an incorruptible. Paul says that when you run in a race every body is running for a prize. But this prize that he is referring to is eternal life, that’s what he means by an incorruptible, he’s talking about an incorruptible body, a heavenly body. (v.26) I therefore so run, not as uncertainly, so fight, not as one that beateth the air: (v.27) But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

You see Paul knew exactly what was going on that why he says he has to bring his body under subjection. Under subjection to what? To God’s Law, Paul knew that if he didn’t continue to keep Gods law that even after he had preached to many that he himself could still become a castaway. If we do this our prize awaits us at the end. "...if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments" (Matthew 19:17).

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Quite preachy, don’t you think? It does not add to your credibility. So you reject the Spirit In favor of the law? Do you not see your folly?

“And when you were dead in your wrongdoings and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our wrongdoings, having canceled the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.”
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Christ nailed the law to the cross. It’s really that simple. Tell you what, you actually address my post and I’ll give you the gift to show you why and for what purpose the law was established as Paul explains in Romans 3:31.

Gene2memE said:

Elephants aren't unique to Africa. There's also the Asian elephant.

Elephants also had a huge range historically. The Asian elephant has a historical range that ran from the southern fringes of the Middle East all the way through the Indian subcontinent and across to Eastern China and Southeast Asia.

The ancestor species of African elephants were spread even more broadly. Remains have been discovered across the entirety of the Eurasian land mass and parts of North America.

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Yes some animals are found in more than one place. But usually only in a few specific places due to a similar environment. I think there is another species of Kangaroo besides in Australia as well.

But the point is however they ended up in their locations it was either more suitable or they adapted to survive in those locations. Or maybe some of the species have evolved in those locations that were not there before.

If they all originated from one location then an elephant for example is only going to migrate to environments where it will survive. Its not going to be the desert or mainland US. Though this may have been the case around the last iceage when mammoths roamed the northern hemisphere.

But even back then when the mega creatures ruled there were giant kangaroos and wombats roaming Australia.

I am not sure where the kangaroo for example came from before it landed in Australia. But it would have still needed the same sort of environment as it does in Australia. It would not have survived the cold winters of Britain and Europe. Maybe around north Africa somewhere.

But if the sea levels were much lower then there would have been many land bridges. The same for the Aboriginals. They would have had to have migrated down from around north Africa and the middle east somewhere. I think through Asia and Papua New Guinea as there was a land bridge.

essentialsaltes said:

... as an Indiana state senator was swatted at his home on Sunday just hours after Trump criticized him and other Republican lawmakers for not moving forward with redrawing the state's congressional map ahead of next year's elections.

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Indiana’s governor and at least 8 lawmakers have been swatted or threatened as state Republicans face redistricting pressure​

Indiana Gov. Mike Braun said he and his family are among the Republicans targeted in a wave of threats against state officeholders this week as President Donald Trump pressures Hoosier State lawmakers to redraw the state’s congressional maps.

At least eight Republican state senators said they had been the subject of swatting attempts, threats of violence or intimidation efforts this week. Most of the attempts were reported after the Senate on Tuesday voted to adjourn until January — rejecting Braun’s call for a special session focused on redistricting.

Law enforcement has not attributed the Indiana threats to a specific person or identified a cause. But the most recent reports come after Trump posted multiple times this week on his Truth Social platform about Indiana, where Republican senators have declined to convene for a special session to attempt to eliminate one or both of the state’s Democrat-held seats in the US House.

At least three congressional Democrats’ offices were targeted by bomb threats after they participated in a video urging US troops to disobey illegal orders. Trump described the Democrats’ video message as “seditious behavior, punishable by death.”

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On to Raleigh

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‘Is the price of doing this worth it?’: North Carolina Republicans worry about Trump immigration raids​

The concerns surrounding Trump’s immigration clampdown in the Tar Heel state speak to a tension at the center of the president’s immigration agenda.

Whatever happened with the “freedom phone” some right wing influencers were trying to hawk a couple years ago?

Farmers – long Trump backers – bear the costs of his new policies​

Big pro-Trump bloc hit hard by tariffs, restricted immigration and slashed renewable energy subsidies​

In the past, farmers’ loyalty to Trump has overridden economics. In our study of the 2018–19 trade war between the U.S. and China, we found that farmers in Trump-voting counties kept planting soybeans even though the trade war’s effects were clear: Their costs would rise and their profits would fall. Farmers in Democratic-leaning counties, by contrast, shifted acreage toward alternatives such as corn or wheat that were likely to be more profitable. For many pro-Trump farmers, political belief outweighed market logic– at least in the short term.

Today, the economic effects of policies affecting farmers are broader and deeper – and the resolve that carried farmers’ support for Trump through the first trade war may no longer be enough.

If the first Trump trade war tested farmers’ wallets, this one tests their faith – and faith, once shaken, is far harder to restore.

Tariffs: The familiar pain returns​

Labor: Fewer hands, higher costs​

Subsidies and symbolism: The Argentina shock​

Clean energy: The new rural subsidy under threat​

FredVB said:

This world having life would be for thousands of years, I am believing it would not have been millions of years. It was the unformed world before the days of creation, and it could have been much longer that way. We have nothing revealed showing what it was in any case.

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Thankfully God took the guesswork out of it. God created the world ~6000 years ago and it took him 6 days to create the heaven and the earth...and all that is in them. Jesus died a little less than 2000 years ago - Matthew (to Abraham) and Luke (to Adam) both explained that creation was ~4000 years from the birth of Jesus.

...neither the White House or Department of War have yet to brief Congressional committees regarding the military build up in Venezuela.

Nor, afaik, Republican committee chairs have not called for any hearings.

I am interested in what exactly has caused the courts to think that the Calvery church is a cult. Because this could mean that any religion or denomination could be classed as a cult.

Determining something a cult is really a subjective determination. Unless there is some obvious harm then this is really a matter of opinion and belief itself. One belief determining another belief.

Its interesting that they mention that its because the biblical teachings violates the First Amendment. Is this the standard biblical teachings which all Christian denominations follow. If so this could set a precedent banning the bible as a belief.

I think this is a continuation and expansion of the growing dislike and attacks on Christian beliefs.

I have heard similar narratives about Christians who profess their beliefs. Progressives thinking the simple belief of traditional marriage and family, or pro life, opposing practicing LGB and Trans ideology is hateful and something that needs to be stopped.

There is clearly a divide and conflict growing between the world and Christian belief where Christianity and the bible are being made out as cultish, hateful, delusional, a cause of trouble and conflict and being seen as a threat to modern day norms.

Andrewn said:

I’ve long since set aside the idea that this icon represents the Holy Trinity.

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The icon was specifically intended by St. Andrei to represent the Trinity in a symbolic manner.

So essentially what you’re doing is saying you’re setting aside the iconographer’s own intentions as well as those of the Orthodox Church in favor of a hyper-literal interpretation.

Which would be fine if we were talking about an Anglican icon or a passage of Scripture, but since this is an Eastern Orthodox icon, frankly, disagreeing with the Eastern Orthodox Church about its interpretation is absurd. It would be akin to if I were to argue against prevalent Anglican interpretation of an aspect of the Anglican faith that is specifically Anglican, without the mitigating factor that I used to be Anglican as a member of the Episcopal Church, before I joined the Orthodox church just under 12 years ago.

Seems a little different from what another Pope said not too long ago...

“The risen Lord instructed his apostles, and through them his disciples in all ages, to take his word to the ends of the earth and to make disciples of all people,” retired Pope Benedict wrote. “‘But does that still apply?’ many inside and outside the church ask themselves today. ‘Is mission still something for today? Would it not be more appropriate to meet in dialogue among religions and serve together the cause of world peace?’ The counter-question is: ‘Can dialogue substitute for mission?’

“In fact, many today think religions should respect each other and, in their dialogue, become a common force for peace. According to this way of thinking, it is usually taken for granted that different religions are variants of one and the same reality,” the retired pope wrote. “The question of truth, that which originally motivated Christians more than any other, is here put inside parentheses. It is assumed that the authentic truth about God is in the last analysis unreachable and that at best one can represent the ineffable with a variety of symbols. This renunciation of truth seems realistic and useful for peace among religions in the world.

“It is nevertheless lethal to faith...


I wonder what 'outdated' theological disputes he is talking about?

“Truly, what unites us is much greater than what divides us!”

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Hear that a lot these days and I immediately think, huh? One True Church, One True Faith, The Sacraments, The Eucharist is the Source and Summit of the Chritian Faith...

Repentance is total change and often the result of continual failures, each more condemning of our selfish nature than the previous until we hopefully start running pollution free

Millions of Americans Are Defaulting on Loans​

Credit card balances alone jumped $24 billion, reaching an all-time high, while the share of balances in serious delinquency—90 days past due—climbed to a nearly financial-crash level of 7.1 percent.

Credit Card debt has been on a pretty constant upward trajectory for 15 years.

I did an End Times bible study through Dr. Brant Pitres Catholic Productions and learned that the End Times scenario includes...

1. The Ascension of Jesus and the “Last Days”
2. The Conversion of All Israel
3. The Final Tribulation and the Antichrist
4. The Second Coming of Christ
5. The Resurrection of the Dead
6. The Last Judgment
7. The New Creation

I wonder how many Catholics know of #2?

Stage 2: The Conversion of All Israel and the “Delay” of the Parousia
Since the Ascension Christ’s coming in glory has been imminent, even though “it is not for you to know times
or seasons which the Father has fixed by his own authority.” [Acts 1:7] This eschatological coming could be
accomplished at any moment, even if it and the final trial that precede it are “delayed.” (CCC 673)

The glorious Messiah’s coming is suspended at every moment of history until his recognition by “all Israel,” for “a hardening
has come upon a part of Israel” in their “unbelief” toward Jesus... St. Paul [says]; “For if their rejection means
the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead?” [Rom 11:15] The “full
inclusion” of the Jews in the Messiah’s salvation, in the wake of the “full number of the Gentiles,” will enable the People of
God to achieve “the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ,” in which “God may be all in all.” (CCC
674).

You don't really hear about that part too much these days.

DaisyDay said:

Unfortunately, as is so often the case with these things, this is ironically named as the civil service system is merit based. Trump is scrapping that for fealty based. This is corrupt.

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Let's remember that the 2025 plan is to remove merit-based selection entirely from the Senior Executive Service (the Civil Service equivalent of general officers) and replace them with political appointees.

Apparently, certain politicians are above the law. Our two teir justice system that is more about politics than it is about justice is a joke!