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Fraudster’s Victims Are Seething After Trump Commuted His Sentence

Then why provide an apologetic of some unknown white house official arguing his wrongful conviction?
Um.. because that is what they believe -
Trump pardoned yet another con man, seeing he can relate to con men.
He did NOT pardon him - he commuted his sentence - reduced it to time served - the man is still a convicted felon - his record has not been expunged (like what happens with a pardon). Hate the President all you want - but let's be intellectually honest - please.

Also it is shown they have NO connection to each other. So please - let's stay in reality.
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Pray Christians Emphasize Private & Corporate Devotion & Worship over the Serious Mistake of finding False counsel/peace in AI

Gracious Heavenly Father,
I pray along with this one’s concern for Your Body. Help us not to rely on technology for wisdom, but to look to Your Word for guidance in the power of Your Holy Spirit.
In Christ’s Name,
Amen
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Please pray for me to find a job

If I may comment on your use of the word unemployment and offer potentially a new perspective on your job search. I say this to build you up and give you more confidence.

To be considered unemployed in the USA, you have to be actively seeking a job. While that is possible, it seems unlikely that you were unemployed for years. If there were significant times that you were not looking for work, that is simply a gap in employment, which sometimes needs an explanation on a job application. I asked google ai if long term unemployment was a bias by potential employers. It answered "
Yes, numerous studies and anecdotal evidence suggest that the long-term unemployed (LTU) often face significant bias and are less likely to be hired by employers. This phenomenon is often referred to as "stigma" or "discrimination" against the LTU"

My point in all of this is that if you choose not to work because you were a homemaker or for any other good reason like caring for a family member etc., then you can reduce the stigma of your employment gap. Your attitude and how you present this to potential employers is a key. In other words, choosing not to work is better than no one would hire me. Gaps explained by I was fortunate to be able to use this time to care for a family member or manage a household give a far better vibe than I was "unemployed."

So hopefully you were not "unemployed for years," that you simply opted out of wage earning employment. That you can remove the stigma and bias of long-term unemployment and replace it with showing an enthusiasm or upbeat attitude to potential employers. For instance, rather than say you were forced for economic reason back into the labor market, you could say you accomplished everything you needed during your employment gap and am excited to re-enter the labor market.

If I may also offer the spiritual dimensions to your job search. You are a child of God, a sister to the King of Kings. You have the host of heaven to assist you and as such you are a true blessing to an employer that God will provide. Yes, God loves you and wants to partner with you in your job search. So you can be optimistic, confident and even believing there is a good job that awaits you, even if you have been looking for work for years.

I would also suggest you look at your skills in a new way. In God, you can be reliable, trustworthy, have an eagerness to learn, and bring the fruit of the spirit to your workplace. Now you might not be able to tell a potential employer all of this but you can know for sure on the inside, that yes you are a great candidate for a suitable job.

With that said, we pray and agree that God has a good job for you. That you can find suitable employment and resources that are according to God's will. That you can better see your situation from God's perspective and love. That you are a treasure created from God, that awaits God's hand to bring you the right employer. God bless you and give you peace.
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Didascalia Apostolorum Teaching of the Apostles inspired scripture

Yes it can be reconciled. I believe the internal date of Didascalia, and that it is inspired.
It is so funny you are blinded to your own biases.

Romans 1:22-32

King James Version

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Also what books of the protestant canon do you believe are pseudepigrapha? I believe the internal date of all. This is just to let readers know you likely do not even believe internal dates in the protestant canon. Lets see if you are honest enough to answer. More specifically do you believe the torah is pseudepigrapha? Therefore when Jesus quotes it, and says Moses says, you think Jesus is wrong correct? Also I notice you dodged the question about gospel of Nic.​

It won't let me copy paste from chatGPT for some reason. Just tell it to reconcile the internal timeline of Diascalia with the NT, and assume the Diascalia is historical, and not pseudepigrapha, and it will. Tell it to reconcile the Peter rooster event too.


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Prayers for my sister in law

Gracious Heavenly Father and Lord Jesus,
Please hold Michie’s sister’s broken mind together, so that her body may not have to suffer from going to the hospital yet again. Help her to obey Your command not to worry, and to remember Your wisdom as to why that is unproductive.
In Christ’s Name,
Amen
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BUSTED - 12 False theories refuted:

That doesn't alter the fact that when Jesus spoke of his return in Matthew 24 he used the analogy of a thief in the night.
Please write out where Jesus mentions His Return in Matthew 24:36-44
We know His 'coming' in fiery wrath, He will not be seen. Hab 3:4, Psalms 18:11 and He remains in His Holy Temple in heaven, Psalms 11:4-6

It is obvious that the event that comes unexpectedly, is not the Glorious Return. Those Christians taken to the place of safety on earth, Rev 12:14, only need to mark off 1260 days to know when Jesus will Return.
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Please pray for my mother who might have pneumonia

Gracious Heavenly Father,
I pray for healing for Inokuma’s mother and relief from worry for Inokuma. I thank You for the concern for her mother that is her heart, that You have given her love for her and the ability to care for her. Guide them both with Your wisdom.
In Christ’s Name,
Amen
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Texas launches plan to open Turning Point USA chapters in every high school

:rolleyes: Yeah right - does this have plausible deniability?

Yeah, I would agree it's stupid to attempt to pretend it's not clearly linked to one party.

Turning Point is overtly a conservative movement aligned with the GOP.


If I were Abbott, I would've just owned that fact and presented it as a counterbalance to the NEA and state Teachers' Unions (organizations that are overtly aligned with the Democratic party, and already have members and influence in just about every public school)
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Pray for this Forum (4)

Gracious Heavenly Father,
I pray for relief from forum slowdowns and 502 errors. You know what we are doing here, hoping to glorify You. Help our legacy to stand and efforts to survive. May all needed minds be present and may You guide the admins with Your wisdom through the frustrating maze of technology in which we live.
In Christ’s Name,
Amen
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Zions New Children

Yes.
But if you told the average non Christian that Jesus wasn't returning for 15-20 years, they would think they could put off making a decision. Especially if they were young and had no thought of dying; that's what I'm saying.
Not very smart. Death can come to anyone at any time.
How could someone make a covenant with another person/party if that person/party was nowhere near ready to make a covenant?
Sounds to me like you think it's conditional; that we have to do something to earn it.
The condition is; that we gather and live in the Holy Land. THEN Jesus will appear to His faithful Christian peoples and make the new Covenant.
2 Thess 1:10, Revelation 14:1
That the NC is not yet made, is proved by Hebrews 8:10-12 being unfulfilled. The Blessings to follow it, which you fail to address.
Also stated in Jeremiah 31:31-34, in the context of the Lords faithful people being gathered into the Holy Land. Jeremiah 31:8
He said "this is my blood OF the new covenant," not "in anticipation of the new covenant".
A Covenant was not made with the 12 Disciples. We have Communion in our Church services as a remembrance of Jesus Sacrifice.
The Disciples are all gone; the NC must be made between Jesus and living people. Ezekiel 34:25 says it, in the context of His people in the Holy Land, a Covenant for their peace and prosperity.
Millions who were/have been affected by 2 world wars, Tsunamis, the pandemic etc, would disagree.
Those things are just the birth pangs of the new age to come. That they are getting closer together, is a sign of the immanence of the end.
They are not worldwide, as the Flood was [maybe just the area of human habitation at that time] but the Day of the Lords wrath will cover all the earth. Zephaniah 3:8, Revelation 6:12-17
THE event will be the return of Jesus.
How can anyone say that? It means you dismiss all the Prophecy from now until the Return and force into a one day event.
Simply crazy and a total abrogation of most of the Bible.
"that's ok, no one believed the prophets either."
Another truth, proved correct by Daniel 12:10b and Matthew 11:25-26
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MIT nuclear science professor Nuno Loureiro found shot dead in home

Originally the FBI was saying there wasn't a link between the Brown shooting and this one...

But from this Guardian article from 2 hours ago, evidently they're now investigating potential connections between the two events

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End times time-frames verses

Here is the list of verse (15 totl) in the bible that have the end times time-frames in them.

Revelation 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

Revelation 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Revelation 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.


Daniel 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.


Daniel 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.


Daniel 8:14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.


Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Ezekiel 39:9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:

Ezekiel 39:12 And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land.

Revelation 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Revelation 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

Revelation 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Revelation 9:10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.

payment situation and computer not working

The payment situation is being resolved, praise God for that! I should be getting a money order for some of the hours tomorrow, it will take some time to fully resolve, but at least I will be getting my money. Continued prayers!

I’ll let you know when I have some time to go after that computer problem, eh.
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Prayer for Healing, Wisdom, and Peace in a Mentorship Relationship

Gracious Heavenly Father,
I pray for courage for Jane, that she may be able to address this with her mentor and get to a resolution. Help her to see her mentor as You see her mentor, that she may not be reading cold and distance into places where it is not. Clear them both from hidden faults.
In Christ’s Name,
Amen
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Woman fatally shoots man after break-in

Ultimately it comes down to how people prioritize the risk/reward trade-offs.

I've presented this example before.

I'll use the closest "major city" as an example. (Cleveland Ohio)

Based on the statistics, if a person goes to a major city in Ohio
The chances of being the victim of attempted robbery are 1 in 90.
The chances of being the victim of simple assault are 1 in 100.
The chances of being the victim of sexual assault (for women) are 1 in 250.

A person's chance of being murdered by a person with a gun in Ohio is approximately 1 in 22,000

If Ohio adopted England's gun laws (and we pretend it would have the exact same effect), the chances go down to approximately 1 in 102,000. (However, that would be unlikely due to the already high proliferation of firearms)

For many, that's not worth the trade-off to make the already unlikely thing a little more unlikely, at the expense of leaving oneself underprepared for scenarios that are far more likely.


Speaking personally, I'd rather keep my chances at 1 in 22,000, and have something readily available for the 1 in 90 chance someone tries to rob me, as opposed to lowering the odds of that, but having no choice but to comply the criminal in the 1 in 90 chance of a robbery attempt.


Often times estimates on DGU (defensive gun uses) will vary wildly (I've seen estimates as low as 50k, and others as high as 2M), but JAMA just did a report last year.



Approximately 92% of participants with firearm access said they had never used a gun defensively. Approximately 0.7% of participants had told someone that they had a firearm or shown their firearm to a perceived threat within the past year. Approximately 0.3% of participants had fired in the vicinity of a threat, whereas about 0.2% of participants had fired at a perceived threat in the past year. There are approximately 260 million adults in the US, and our results suggest approximately 38% have access to a firearm in the home, cohering with other estimates.19 Taken together, this means approximately 97.8 million US adults have household firearm access, which equates to approximately 195 600 instances of DGU per year in which someone fired at a perceived threat. When including the additional 0.3% of respondents who said they fired in the vicinity of but not at a threat, the annual estimate of DGU in which a gun is fired totals approximately 489 000 events per year.


So even based on this more conservative estimate, DGUs still outnumber gun deaths in the US.

Per the CDC, there were 47,000 gun-related deaths in the US.
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Why Is It So Hard for Christians to Talk About Justice and Greed?

Well, I'm not sure what good specificity would do first of all if one is opposed to the idea of social justice at the outset. But, ok, though some of these we're already offered: we specifically oppose slavery first of all as an evil that must be stopped, without regard to any reparations or who may've caused it, etc. Likewise for human trafficking, starvation, genocide, domestic and child abuse, discrimination based on race or gender, and maintain that it's the duty of mankind to fight these issues using whaterever availalble resources might apply to the particular need: churches, religious orders, relief agenceis, sometimes police, military, etc.
I don't know of any Christian church or organization that is afraid to talk about these things. I want to share my sincere concerns with "social justice" as a modern concept. I would hope that you read this carefully and respond to the concerns. Please do not write it off as a fear of talking about social justice.

My thoughts on social justice
I want to offer a concern—not about justice itself, which Scripture clearly affirms—but about the way “social justice” is often used as a broad, undefined category in Christian discussion.

One of the pitfalls of this language is that it can blur biblical categories. In Scripture, justice is grounded in the character of God and tied closely to righteousness, mercy, repentance, and covenant faithfulness. In modern usage, however, social justice can mean many different things, often shaped more by contemporary political or ideological frameworks than by Scripture. When Christians adopt the term uncritically, biblical concepts like sin, grace, reconciliation, and redemption can quietly be replaced by categories such as power, oppression, and identity.

Another danger is moral reductionism. The Bible recognizes unjust systems, but it never treats injustice as merely structural. Jesus consistently locates the root of evil in the human heart (Mark 7:20–23). When injustice is framed only in systemic terms, personal repentance and the need for grace are minimized, and the gospel can be reduced to activism rather than transformation.

There is also a risk of substituting discipleship with causes. Doing good works is essential to Christian faith, but it is possible to confuse moral action with reconciliation to God. Jesus rebuked those who emphasized certain forms of justice while neglecting faithfulness to God Himself (Matt. 23:23). Justice matters—but it must flow from devotion to Christ, not replace it.

This raises an important question: Is social justice the main thrust of Christ’s mission?
The answer, I believe, is no—though justice is certainly not irrelevant.

Jesus is clear about why He came: to seek and save the lost (Luke 19:10), to reconcile sinners to God (1 Pet. 3:18), and to inaugurate the kingdom of God through repentance and faith. While His teaching has profound ethical and social implications, He consistently refuses to reduce His mission to political or social reform. His kingdom is “not of this world” (John 18:36), and lasting justice flows outward from transformed hearts, not imposed structures.

The early church followed this pattern. They proclaimed Christ crucified, practiced generosity and mercy, cared for the poor, and lived as a holy people within a broken society—without attempting to engineer a worldly utopia through power.

A healthier Christian framing may be this: justice is not the gospel, but the fruit of it. We are called to love God and neighbor, to do justice and love mercy, and to walk humbly with God (Micah 6:8). When justice is biblically defined, rooted in the gospel, practiced personally, and held together with mercy and truth, it reflects Christ rather than replacing Him.

Keeping Christ at the center guards both our theology and our witness.
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Why do we do things not written in the Bible?

Where Did Christmas Come From?

World Scope Encyclopedia (1960 vol.3) states, "Christmas, the festival observed by the Christian Church on the 25th day of December in commemoration of the birth of Jesus Christ. No certain knowledge of the birthday of Jesus Christ exists and its observance was not established until some time after the organization of the first churches. The 25th day of December was advocated by Julius 1, Bishop of Rome from 337 to 352, as the most suitable time to commemorate the birth of Christ. The day was finally placed on December 25th, which made it possible for all nations to observe a festival of rejoicing that the shortest day of the year has passed. The end of December was an especially significant time in the northern hemisphere. Days were short; nights long. The sun was at its lowest point. This called for the celebration of special festivals of thanksgiving and encouragement to the waning sun. When at the winter solstice in late December, the days began to lengthen once again, there was great festivity lasting into the first part of January. The reason was that the declining sun---the light of the world--had been reborn and began to gain in strength. Moreover, the newly converted peoples found it convenient to get a kind of substitute for their original celebrations of the solstice ". The birth of Jesus the Christ was assigned the date of December 25th, because on this day, as the sun began its return to the northern skies, the pagan devotees of Mithra (the Persian's Sun God) celebrated the dies natalis Solis Invicti (birthday of the invincible sun).

The history book a Pictorial History of the Italian People states, "Saint Gregory was repelled by Graeco-Roman civilization and, paradoxically, did more than anyone else to facilitate the absorption of pagan residues into Italian Christianity. Through that process of absorption, any paganism hostile to Christianity remaining in Italian rural communities faded away".

The simple fact is that, as more and more people from throughout the Western Roman Empire became converted to an increasingly popular Christianity, they brought many of their favorite customs with them. "The pagan [winter festivals of the] Saturnalia and Brumalia were too deeply entrenched in popular custom to be set aside by Christian influence... The pagan festival with its riot and merrymaking was so popular that Christians were glad of an excuse to continue its celebration with little change in spirit or in manner... Christians of Mesopotamia accused their western brethren of idolatry and sun-worship for adopting as Christian this pagan festival. Yet the festival rapidly gained acceptance and became at last so firmly entrenched that even the Protestant revolution of the sixteenth century was not able to dislodge it..." (The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge, Volume III, article "Christmas.") You see this going on in churches today. Churches are constantly recruiting new members from other denominations and they often bring some aspect of their previous church to the new one. If you notice, many Christians today celebrate the Roman Catholic tradition of Lent. Historically, Lent, was not celebrated by Protestant churches.
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