GoldenBoy89 said:

It’s already happening. I can’t even speak Spanish with my family without having to rely on several Arabic words. The fall of the West is imminent!

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Like the city of Alhambra. That's an Arabic word that your ancestors kept, even after driving every single Muslim out of the Spanish countryside.

concretecamper said:

Ok, we will use power.

You have the power to make more virtuous decisions than I do. And it follows, someone else may have more power than you do to make virtuous decisions.

So I have the POWER to make virtuous decisions say 50% of the time.

You, 75%

Someone else 80%, and so on.

What what arbitrary subjective limit are the free will deniers going to place on the power to make virtuous choices? 90%, 95%, ??????

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I just thought of an alternative response to this question. If we suppose we orbit around God, then It could be looked at in a 50/50 balance of a carnal/spirit impetus. So even 55carnal 45spirit state of condition could still be in repentance if it changes to 54carnal/46 spirit depending upon the distance between God and us. Theoretically iniquity is unfair measurement or balance. If wickedness is defined as 'wanting' to believe bad things about others (slander = devil ), then love others as oneself would be God's gravity that draws us away from iniquity. Charity and grace is God's Spirit which we experience both inwardly and outwardly when we walk in it.

Palmfever said:

'He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.'

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That's the scope of the atoning sacrifice, not only Jewish people but for people all over the world. If your sins are atoned for you are saved. So it's limited to the saved.

2PhiloVoid said:

Up until you mentioned anything about Alberta and this thing they have called the Notwithstanding Clause, I didn't know anything about this. I then googled it and got a quick summation. See? I'm trying to gain an understanding of the situation.

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Nice! Thanks!

2PhiloVoid said:

So, are the teachers in Alberta wanting to go on strike in relation to pay or benefits and are not being allowed to now by this clause?

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We went on strike because classroom conditions in Alberta are getting really bad (This government is trying to push toward privatizing because...that's what they do). Our province is the only one that has no limits on class sizes (though one has "Recommendations"). They actively create funding models that UNDER fund growing school boards and they stopped monitoring class size. We were striking for 3 weeks.

Essentially, we were hoping to get some kinda pay increase (only had 5.6% since the VERY early aughts) but everyone's focus was really on class size and complexity (and sadly, rural class conditions aren't so bad so rurally, where the ruling party has a lot of support, mnany were not supportive of teachers or the strike cause things, generally, looked good for most of them). Numbers are HUGE and violence against staff is staggering (a recent international study actually put Alberta teachers are the LOWEST teacher job satisfaction on the entire planet. Sadly, our province is REALLY turning into a urban v rural split.

We WERE striking but the government had to utilize the NWC on 4 different occasions to push through their "back to work" legislation as fast as they could.

Most people today are under Roman Christianity faith. All have sinned (broken the law...Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law (I John 3:4) and the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23). When Jesus (the true Lamb of God) was sacrificed, he removed our past sins. If we accept Jesus as our sin offering, we are required to repent and get baptized IN THE NAME OF JESUS ("there is none other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved..."(Acts 4: 12). This is our last chance Brothers and Sister.

To repent means to turn from our sinful ways and start obeying God's law. The water baptism signifies the washing away of our past sins. After repenting and being baptized in the name of Jesus it would be foolish for us to turn around and willingly break God's commandments. If we make an honest mistake Jesus can help us, but if we sin willingly, after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, look out! "...there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation..." (Hebrews 10:26-27).

When Jesus died, only the sacrificial law was done away with, alone with Leviticus priesthood. We still must obey all of God's laws and statues of conduct, from the ten commandments to the least commandment. We cannot choose to obey one without obeying the others. For instance, if it's still good to pay tithes (as many preach), then it is still good to obey God's dietary law (not eating pork, catfish, etc...Leviticus 11:1-47). Similarly, you cannot purposely trip a blind person (Leviticus 19:14) and claim to love your neighbor as yourself. Neither can you break God's Sabbath days (Leviticus 19:30) and claim to love God with all your heart, soul and mind.

Many fight to uphold man's traditional holidays (Sunday the 1st day as the Sabbath, Christmas, Easter and Halloween), but few are obeying God's Holy Days (Saturday the 7th day Sabbath, the Passover, Pentecost, etc...Leviticus 23:1-44). All of God's laws are still good and must be obeyed if we want eternal life. We might not be able to observe everything perfectly, but can fight a good fight. Paul said in (1 Cor. 9:24-27) (v.24) Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. (v.25) And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown: but we an incorruptible. Paul says that when you run in a race every body is running for a prize. But this prize that he is referring to is eternal life, that’s what he means by an incorruptible, he’s talking about an incorruptible body, a heavenly body. (v.26) I therefore so run, not as uncertainly, so fight, not as one that beateth the air: (v.27) But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

You see Paul knew exactly what was going on that why he says he has to bring his body under subjection. Under subjection to what? To God’s Law, Paul knew that if he didn’t continue to keep Gods law that even after he had preached to many that he himself could still become a castaway. If we do this our prize awaits us at the end. "...if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments" (Matthew 19:17).

Warden_of_the_Storm said:

What's with the simping for Russia? You're a Swede, a country with a long standing rivalry with Russia.

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Yes, it started with Gustav Vasa, who rebelled against the Tsar and founded the Swedish separatist state. But I’m not Swedish

Always in His Presence said:

Don't cheer too quickly -

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Looks like game over to me. I'm sure there are still some good political targets for Trump to throw lawyers at.

Larniavc said:

That’s why souls don’t exist and witness testimony is widely known as prone to error.

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I've usually got a pretty fair idea whether I've seen something or not. I used the same brain and optic senses to see my father's spirit the night he turned up and to take in the bedroom I was in at the time.

There was a rather plain chipboard bookcase against the wall, and I can still remember seeing it through him if I wanted to.

In other words I had no issue seeing the ordinary things around me, and the most unusual spiritual witness at the same time.

I know my mind better than you know my mind thanks.

essentialsaltes said:

On to Raleigh

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‘Is the price of doing this worth it?’: North Carolina Republicans worry about Trump immigration raids​

The concerns surrounding Trump’s immigration clampdown in the Tar Heel state speak to a tension at the center of the president’s immigration agenda.

probinson said:

The Democrats SWORE that the ONLY way to continue the subsidies was to hold the line with the government shutdown. Obviously, they were wrong.



The bottom line is, all the Democrats had to do was agree to the clean CR, which they ultimately did anyway, and then address this issue separately. Had they done that, there wouldn't have been a government shutdown.

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Their proposal isn't a straight extension of subsidies. It will force people into junk plans

rambot said:

Sorry. I'm fairly certain much of this is laid out for Judaism as well.

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We don't see it in Israel though, so how can you say that?

Whatever happened with the “freedom phone” some right wing influencers were trying to hawk a couple years ago?

ThatRobGuy said:

Has the right gone further right, or moved more toward the middle between 2019 and now?

If the right (circa 2025) is fracturing over the "Fuentes Factor", and the circa-2025 is the most extreme version of "the right" we've ever had, then this kind of stuff would've been even more fracturing back in 2019 by that reasoning, correct?

That would be logical conclusion, right?

If the 2025 version of the right is the "most right-wing that the right has ever been, bordering on fascism" as some have said, and half of them are like "whoa, what's the deal with this Fuentes dude saying the holocaust didn't happen!?!?, I don't know if I want to be a part of this"

Wouldn't that reaction be even more pronounced among the 2019 right, who were a little less far-right?



I think my reasoning is rock solid on this.

Social media is a major driver in politics.

The excesses of either faction have the effect of being off-putting to a lot of people.

The left went out of their way to silence and hide the excesses of the right on social media on the basis of "mean words could hurt peoples' feelings", while the excesses of the left were amplified and put at the top of everyone's Twitter feed.


From a Democratic strategy perspective, this picture sums it up...
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If I was running for office, and the Westboro Baptist Church was supporting my opponent, and the Church of Scientology was supporting me, and my supporters pulled levers to get FB, YT, and Twitter to suppress Westboro posts, and amplify Scientology posts, that'd be a pretty stupid move (strategically), right? -- Despite the fact that morally speaking, the Westboro Baptist Church is more immoral than the Scientologists becomes irrelevant at that point, as the general public is only going to be made aware of the "crazies" on my side, and not hear anything about the "crazies" (who are actually worse) supporting the other guy.

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I wonder if the election of Biden could have possibly influenced what your seeing?

OF course it could.

A common enemy? As ruthlessly conniving and doting and inneffectual as he was Biden could be a GREAT target for a united Right. A right united to defeat Biden and a right that was willing to keep the uglies at bay for a while.


If Biden hadn't been elected, do you HONESTLY this particular portion of the timeline would STILL be happenning now.

The election of Biden CAUSED the delay in what we're seeing.




By the way, what is stopping Republicans from solving their problem here?

stevevw said:

I am not sure what you meran by deflect. Deflect into what lol. Into something like the Atlantis myth. Why would I do that and make it even worse for myself lol. You grossly underestimate those who can understand the difference.

But yes I am able to discuss the Atlantis legend if you want and its context to the difference between the science and the legend.

This was based on the fact that the idea of Atlantis as a conspiracy is being used to dismiss everything any person who may be associated with such conspiracies as wrong in everything they say. A sort of coverall to automatically dismiss the person without actually investigating what they said.

It is a fact that you have dismissed everyone and what they actually have said without knowing what they have said on this by the fact you called them all grifters without any evidence.

The bible made up the Flood myth as a moral tale. But it still had a real event as the basis. This is how it works. Moral tales come from real events percieved as from the gods or mother nature. Thats what gives them legs. Otherwise its just some unbelievable tale with no real substance.

Throughout time we see the same theme over and over of a great city or culture or Empire failing or destroyed because of their hubris and pride.

It makes perfect sense that there was such a legend or a number or glocal and local stories floating around that was used in other ways with a similar moral lesson. Which PLato an dothers drew upon. It makes sense that just like the Flood myths are based on real flood events in all cultures. That from those flood myths could come a great city or culture that was destroyed. A moral lesson within a lesson.

Yeah the same theme is elaborated on over and over. But this stems from a real event sometime in the past. Give enough time and the worldwide tsuami we had a decade ago will become something sent by the gods. The story is probably being laid down within the cultures that directly experienced it. In fact if you listen to their accounts many say it was the gods being angry.

This is a natural inclination of humans.

Yes they are. You started with the idea its all conspiracy suggesting there was alternative or advanced lost knowledge. Full stop.

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It's not a conspiracy, just dumbitude. If there's a conspiracy it's the one you are floating, that scientists reject evidence because it interferes with their materialism

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You labelled it all as conspiracies like Atlantis and aliens and those who are investigating such possibilities are grifters and liars and fools. Without any evidence direct from those you accuse actually promoting such things.

Therefore I have been from the start of this thread having to defend these good people from your stereotypical labels and false accusations.

So you are more or less dismissing a good chunk of science in how we can understand the ancients and their culture and knowledge. Your more or less saying we should only understand them from a 21st century worldview and not how they believed and thought.

How can you even come to understand them by know knowing their worldview. Or not understand human cognition and behaviour in this context as a behavioural science. They are not machines and this is I think the missing aspect that material sciences dismiss. The agencies and self determinant aspects that come from culture such as belief and spirituality.

Not in the way your making out. Its extreme and narrow minded. As much as any conspiracy.

I am able to take what I think makes sense or is supported and leave that which I think is not. You don't have to throw the baby out with the bath water. Often much of what is said is reasonable and something we should question and consider. Its not that controversial.

But because this entire topic can so easily slip into spectulation the two get conflated. Thus throwing out the legitimate. Unfortunately some people give this whole topic a bad name.

You literally just agree that the whole UAP and advance tech related to this thread.

And you did not check it out to actually see what it was about. This only shows you tar people by association. You also don't believe peoples own words. So why should anyone then believe yours. Is this not just personal feelings and beliefs.

Your just proving my point.

Fair enough

It is when your not providing evidence. Anyone can make accusations. Its easy. You just say the words enough.

Its more the principle that you so easily dismiss people based on heresay and not actually getting to know them or what they actually said. You were dismissing for the beginning of everyone and everything. You had already made your mind up before you walked in the front door lol.

Hum thats what you have called everything posted lol. You have constantly tied it back to Hancock and Dunn as representing everything said.

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Farmers – long Trump backers – bear the costs of his new policies​

Big pro-Trump bloc hit hard by tariffs, restricted immigration and slashed renewable energy subsidies​

In the past, farmers’ loyalty to Trump has overridden economics. In our study of the 2018–19 trade war between the U.S. and China, we found that farmers in Trump-voting counties kept planting soybeans even though the trade war’s effects were clear: Their costs would rise and their profits would fall. Farmers in Democratic-leaning counties, by contrast, shifted acreage toward alternatives such as corn or wheat that were likely to be more profitable. For many pro-Trump farmers, political belief outweighed market logic– at least in the short term.

Today, the economic effects of policies affecting farmers are broader and deeper – and the resolve that carried farmers’ support for Trump through the first trade war may no longer be enough.

If the first Trump trade war tested farmers’ wallets, this one tests their faith – and faith, once shaken, is far harder to restore.

Tariffs: The familiar pain returns​

Labor: Fewer hands, higher costs​

Subsidies and symbolism: The Argentina shock​

Clean energy: The new rural subsidy under threat​

RDKirk said:

Trump is carrying out the purge of military leadership that the right-wing falsely accused Obama of doing.

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There's a lot of corruption within the military and intelligence services. You can't have people in there who would damage our country and/or pursue their own agendas.

Always in His Presence said:

I have no reference to quantify what is posted. The question in the OP is on Biblical status - "is it Biblical" That means is it found in the Bible.

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Of course you do. The Orthodox hymn is Biblical as is the idea that Christ trampled down death by death.

Always in His Presence said:

Sorry - I understand the position that you hold in beliefs about Mary - we dod not need to o down that well worn path - but please - One and One one can Save us - His Name is Jesus

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That reply was not addressed to you.

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FredVB said:

This world having life would be for thousands of years, I am believing it would not have been millions of years. It was the unformed world before the days of creation, and it could have been much longer that way. We have nothing revealed showing what it was in any case.

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Thankfully God took the guesswork out of it. God created the world ~6000 years ago and it took him 6 days to create the heaven and the earth...and all that is in them. Jesus died a little less than 2000 years ago - Matthew (to Abraham) and Luke (to Adam) both explained that creation was ~4000 years from the birth of Jesus.

stevevw said:

What we know is that there are some very different and weird mammals and marsupials in Australia. Just as there are some unique animals to certain locations in the world. Such as elephants in Africa.

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Elephants aren't unique to Africa. There's also the Asian elephant.

Elephants also had a huge range historically. The Asian elephant has a historical range that ran from the southern fringes of the Middle East all the way through the Indian subcontinent and across to Eastern China and Southeast Asia.

The ancestor species of African elephants were spread even more broadly. Remains have been discovered across the entirety of the Eurasian land mass and parts of North America.

...neither the White House or Department of War have yet to brief Congressional committees regarding the military build up in Venezuela.

Nor, afaik, Republican committee chairs have not called for any hearings.