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Anybody know if Rob Reiner is okay?

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Interesting how people who do not care a lick about you and people who, you will never be allowed into their world. Can cause such polarization among people arguing over what they say and do. When you have no say in or control over the world they live in, which is not your world and most likely will never be (unless you win the 100 billion$ lottery). Then they may take notice of you not because of you, but because of the money you now have.
Hasn't there been enough about Trump already in this thread?

Let's try to remember the Reiners and their work and how they worked to provide early assistance to all California families with kids under 5.

First 5 offers services such as health care, child care and other programs to the families of California. First 5 have about eight main goals that they strive to address. These goals are school readiness, making sure that all kids have a good transition into elementary school, quality child care in the early years so that each child receives the proper care from child care facilities, emphasis on nutrition and exercise to encourage healthy life styles, health coverage for children to ensure their vaccinations and other health needs are met starting young, dental care so that children maintain a healthy smile and even avoid things such as speech impairments, providing quality pre-schools for good brain stimulation, care for children with special needs, and even the migrant farm workers children.
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Trump administration says sign language services ‘intrude’ on Trump’s ability to control his image

Just as a simple example.

"I used to be a banker, but I lost interest."

"What do you call a bear with no teeth? A gummy bear"

Try to translate that to another language and still have it make sense.

If it's any language where the words for "Interest" (being interested in something) and "Interest" (a rate charged for money lending services) are different, that "play on words" officially makes no sense.
I think you're going to have to use your vast knowledge of ASL to show that there are different signs for "interest" in these two contexts and for gum(my). (Just in case you are tempted to make other claims, it doesn't matter if these jokes don't work in German or Klingon.)
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Why we are not supposed to keep the Sabbath

Citation please.

Not that you have ever addressed or even acknowledged most of the Scriptures I have posted, but so as not to return evil for evil, I will grant your request.

Ex. 4: 10 And Moses said unto the LORD, O my Lord, I am not eloquent, neither heretofore, nor since thou hast spoken unto thy servant: but I am slow of speech, and of a slow tongue. 11 And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD? 12 Now therefore go, "and I will be with thy mouth", and teach thee "what thou shalt say".

Ex. 12: 49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Ex. 31: 18 And he (God) gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.

John 1: 17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

John 14: 15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. ( Jn. 10: 30 I and my Father are one. , Jn. 17:8 For I have given unto them the words "which thou gavest me"; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.) 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

And why did the religions of this world at that time, not know Him, according to the Jesus "of the Bible's own Words"?

John 5: 45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.

46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye "believe not" his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

Thus the reason for the Christ "of the Bible's", Own Words I posted for you in Luke 16. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

If you are not persuaded by these Words, who was chosen to record and carry God's Laws, Statutes and Commandments throughout the nations, it is clear why, according to Christ's Own Words.
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Political violence on the rise: Left wing attacks outnumber those from the right for first time in decades

What a truly bizarre thread. Someone on the right pointing out that atrocities by far right wing extremists are nearly as minimal this year, after over 30 years of being grossly over represented, as those by the far left.

Notwithstanding that the types of acts that are being investigated by the linked paper are rejected as being unconscionable by all reasonable people on both sides of the political fence.

So what's the purpose. Are you implying 'Hey, we are doing almost as little as you'? Or 'We aren't as bad these days as we used to be'.

Who on earth is in this forum that is represented by the 'we'? Are you including yourself? Are you trying to divide people into different sides that would align with far right or far left extremism?

If I supported the political right, I'd be embarrassed to share this article since the statistics reveal more political violence from that side over the past 30 years.

The original poster frequently shares content without fully reading or understanding it. He often react to headlines by starting new threads, and become upset when others point out that the article is incorrect or misleading. In this instance, it appears he did not read thoroughly enough to see that the article actually indicates his own side has been involved in political violence 50 times more over the past thirty years than the side he is criticizing.

Political violence is a serious issue in America and should be condemned regardless of which group perpetrates it. However, this chart—previously unfamiliar to me—demonstrates that the political right has committed more acts of violence than the political left. The narratives suggesting that BLM causes widespread disruption appear minimal when compared to the data presented above. It seems that right-wing media have repeatedly misrepresented BLM and Antifa as being more violent than the right.
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The law, the commandments, and Christians.

Christ is a model but this needs to be qualified as to how far that model extends. I suspect what you mean is Christ is a model so far as it pertains to the things you value in your faith. For example, Christ was circumcised physically; therefore, as a model, should we not be circumcised physically? Christ died for our sins; therefore as a model, should we too die for the sins of others? Christ radically challenged the de facto interpretation of the law of the day, so as a model, should we not radically challenge the de facto interpretation of the law too? How far does this modelship go? Simply calling Christ a model is not a mic drop as it's a loaded statement and used only to prop up whatever it is you're trying to prop up.
You're still over-complicating the matter. Christ shows us that obedience is possible, that man was never created to sin and that there's a way, one Way, to overcome the sin that otherwise earns us death.
As it pretains to Sabbath law, Christ shows us as a model of Sabbath that it is better to do good (Mat 12:12). So rather than plan to have a ritual rest on the Sabbath day, it is better to plan to do good (even if that involves work) but no one whats to admit that logic and would rather keep their sabbath day as the 4th has instructed them to, rather than actively seek goodness as Christ has modeled.
Ye, it's good to do good on the Sabbath. And so?? One of those goods, for our own benefit as the Sabbath was made for man, is to regulary take that time dedicated to the devotion and partaking of God.
"Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor." The law can certainly show us moral action, but it should not function as our guide to a moral foundation and if it does we will end up missing the point.
And how faithful are we being, or what good would our faith be, if we were persistently and unrepentantly engaged in breaking the commandments? Here's a great quote that happens to be from a former pope:

"This faith, however, is not a thought, an opinion, an idea. This faith is communion with Christ, which the Lord gives to us, and thus becomes life, becomes conformity with him. Or to use different words faith, if it is true, if it is real, becomes love, becomes charity, is expressed in charity. A faith without charity, without this fruit, would not be true faith. It would be a dead faith."
I may not kill, not steal or not lie to my neighbour, all law-keeping things, but I also may actively hate him and have a motivation towards him that is incompatible with Christian living, all while saying the law is my tutor so I am justified.
??? The law as a tutor only points to our lack of justice, our lack of love, IOW, in such cases!
I suspect the thing that keeps you fixated on the law is the 4th commandment so you have to maintain this false dichotomy of law to prop up the 10 and smuggle them into the NC.
There's no smuggling them in to the NC. They simply stand as truth regarding certain basic matters of justice, even though they cannot accomplish that justice/righteousness in us by merely observing them. Again, they're innocuous for one who would be "perfected in love", but we prove that we still benefit from their tutorship to the extent the we sin, wherever we fail to love, IOW. They help convict us that our hearts and minds are not in the right place.
Is not Christ the Lord of the Sabbath, meaning he has authority over it? The 10 communicates these values in Christ but in ignorance and unrevealed. Why would you hold on to those value?
What does that even mean? If we were actively breaking the commandments we only prove that we don't even know Christ, let alone love Him and neighbor.
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Antinomianism, definition and a Question "is this you"?

If antinomianism (lit. against law) is regarding no longer being bound by the "moral law of God"
so then if the dictionary and history of the NT church is correct?
then the critical question is what is the "moral law of God".
yep. Hence all the confessions of faith addressing that very point and even the definition for antinomianism pointing to the TEN Commandments
which begs the question: Is this responsible terminology/should we be using it?
It is probably a bit uncomfortable if one is used to posting in opposition to the Ten Commandments, given how the definition for antinomianism reads.
Scripture doesn't bifurcate law
Until you read Heb 10 where "He takes away the first to establish the second" vs 4-10 where it is explicitly speaking of "animal sacrifice and offerings" all the while "The Commandments of God" are strongly affirmed in 1 Cor 7:19 where "Honor your father and mother is the first commandment with a promise" Eph 6:1 in that still valid unit of TEN

So apparently the definition for Antinomianism is indeed accurate in what it says happened in first century church history
, and when the subject of law is raised, law is treated as whole units defined within covenants. Some indeed have more of a moral foundation and others ceremonial/ritual or symbolic,

No wonder the Baptist Confession of Faith sectn 19, and the Westminster Confession of Faith sectn 19 , and D.L. Moody's sermon on the Ten Commandments, and R.C. Sproul, and C.H. Spurgeon affirm the TEN as included in the moral law of God




Almost every Christian denomination on Earth affirms the continued *"unit of TEN" for Christians today

[*]The Baptist Confession of Faith section 19
[*]The Westminster Confession of Faith section 19
[*]Voddie Baucham
[*]C.H. Spurgeon
[*]D.L. Moody
[*]Dies Domini by Pope John Paul II
[*]D. James Kennedy
[*]R.C. Sproul
[*]many others as well..

* - 10 as-is or else in edited form
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Citizens are fed up with Dem-invited migrants that have disdain for US law and culture

I am not twisting scripture. I am merely quoting it. I am pointing out that our mandate cannot be cherry picked to suit whatever political cause you want. That goes for everyone. The legitimacy of scripture is diluted when we decide we are going to pick and choose which ones we want to follow. Its diluted even more when we pick and choose which ones we want the government to enforce. We shouldn't do that. That is nothing more than you deciding what kind of Theocracy you want.

Jesus commands are for YOU. You should help the poor. You should help the needy. He does not command governments to. If anyone is twisting scriptures it is those who try and use it for political purposes to force others to care for illegal immigrants whether they want to or not.

Incorrect. You and far too many Christian liberals are the ones who are intertwining religious obligation and civil law. Can you please quote Christ or any apostle who says the religious obligations of followers of Christ ought to be codified and enforced by law?
So how do you justify wanting to make laws against sinful sex?
Neither Christ nor the apostles said anything about social justice. That is nothing more than liberal political nonsense. And it does violence to the actual mandates of scripture. The greatest commandment is to love the Lord your God with all your heart. Are you for forcing that upon civil law?

He commanded YOU to do it. It was not a mandate for governmental law. You give out of your own pocket, not someone else's.

Except that scripture also commands other things as well. As I pointed out. Its a violation to pick and choose which ones you want to follow. And its also a violation of scripture to cherry pick which ones you want the government to enforce.

You are commanded to help the needy and to love God by obeying all his commandments. That is for you to do.

If you were trying to give water to the thirsty and the government told you, you can't then you should disobey the government.

Mercy does NOT negate consequences for illegal acts. If someone murdered your loved one you may show them mercy by forgiving them. But that doesn’t mean the government is now obligated to release them.

Justice and mercy are what we should be seeking. And if you are demanding mercy then you should also be demanding justice. Illegals should be rounded up for disobeying the law. They should be treated humanely, given food, water, medical treatment, and their needs should be covered. Then they should face the consequences of their illegal acts and be deported.

8 He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.

15 “ ‘Do not pervert justice; do not show partiality to the poor or favoritism to the great, but judge your neighbor fairly.
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Wisconsin Supreme Court reverses course, now says Catholic is charity exempt from unemployment tax

The Wisconsin Supreme Court has ruled that a Catholic charity can be exempt from an unemployment insurance tax, affirming an earlier ruling from the United States Supreme Court.

In an order released Monday, the state high court concluded that Catholic Charities Bureau (CCB), Inc. and four sub-entities were “eligible for the religious purposes exemption to unemployment taxation.”

The Wisconsin Supreme Court ordered that the case be sent back to the circuit court level with the instruction to vacate a decision by the Labor and Industry Review Commission (LIRC) against the CCB.

The order also rejects an attempt by state officials to eliminate the religious exemption altogether, according to the religious liberty law firm Becket, which represented the CCB.

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Left-Wing Terrorism Is on the Rise

1. Quit trying to excuse it by continuing to say, "well the right is worse".
I think what we are saying is that the Right is no better.
2. Quit claiming the right hates everyone and they don't agree with and are just relying to take e away all their rights.
Nobody is saying the Right hates everybody.
3. Quit claiming that the right is a bunch of Nazi, misogynistic racists.
Nobody is claiming that about the entire right. Even Hillary only accused half of you.
4. Quit claiming that Trump's administration is an authoritarian government using gestapo tactics.
Watch the news.
Just those 4 things would tone down the rhetoric that has led to so much violence from the left. The permission structures for violence need to be ended. Because if ANY of those are true then violence is justified in order to defend oneself self and defend the nation against people who want to take away your rights and and act like Nazis and set up some sort of authoritarian government and destroy the constitution.
Wait! I thought you were condemning left wing violence, and there you go excusing it.
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2 Canons of the bible

Luke 24:44-53 He said to them, “Remember when I was with you before? I said that everything written about me must happen—everything in the law of Moses, the books of the prophets, and the Psalms.” Then Jesus opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures.

Law Psalms Prophets - this canon list excludes 1 Enoch, and other OT texts (Jubilees, Test of the 12 patriarchs, Tobit, 1/2 Maccabees, and others). Josephus gave the same canon list around 100 AD, and it was Genesis to Malachi organized into around 24 books. This is the primary canon.
Greetings again sambas

I presume your second paragraph is a support for the verse above it. If not, then my apologies. It appears you are suggesting that the Luke 24:44 verse, when it says "the law of Moses, the books of the prophets, and the Psalms", means to include 1 Enoch. But I don't know of any support for this. Could you give me your source so I might study this inclusion of 1 Enoch into what Luke wrote in Luke 24:44?


Peace to you brother
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Strangest Places you've ever witnessed at!

On my knees in the dirt holding and praying with a woman who was crying and destitute, with prostitutes walking in front of us trying to get to the car behind us where a dealer was waving around a 9mm, and having someone sell drugs out of the back seat to the people on the streets, and cop cars kept rolling by and never stopping, while we risked our lives for the spreading of the gospel at the gates of hell on earth if necessary..
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DeSantis admin diverted $36.2 million in child welfare and medical funds for consultants, ads to defeat voter ballot initiatives

You can call it what you want. Conservatives are expected to fight against abortion and many fight against decriminalization of pot. American churches often too try to make such leaders more like "Church officials." we see it al the time. Regardless though the ends do not justify the means. Desantis should have used private money, not state money.
The *governor* should not be doing it at all. If some church-paid friend wants to do it with private funds that is one thing, but a governor is still not a church official.
I am not sure how loose Florida is on this. I'm guessing he will get a pass though. I am thinking his stock for political influence is waning. Like Trump he is too authoritarian. I doubt America will vote like that again.
DeSantis put all of his political theater into action to get the 2024 nomination. He's got nothing left and has made almost no news in the last year plus. Trump crushed dreams by running for reelection.
I asked google ai what USA Governor was the most authoritarian. DeSantis was indeed first. Newsom though was also mentioned.
don't care what "ai" says.
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November Unemployment Rate Unexpectedly Rises to 4.6%

The US economy added 64,000 jobs in November while the unemployment rate rose to 4.6% from 4.4% in September, according to the latest report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Due to the federal government shutdown, data for the unemployment rate series was not collected in October.

The unemployment rate had been forecast to remain steady at 4.4% in November. Meanwhile, nonfarm payroll employment had been forecast to show an increase of 40,000 according to FactSet. The Labor Department reported that the US economy lost 105,000 jobs in October. Job gains were revised down for September to an increase of 108,000 from an originally reported increase of 119,000.


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He's doing pretty much what he did the first time around.

RFK Adjusts Hepatitis B Vaccine Recommendations; Democrats Lose Their Minds

The metanalysis in the Cochrane review that you are citing has a number of flaws.

It does not. The Cochrane review has existed since 2007, and its findings have remain unchanged. Masking simply does not slow respiratory spread, and it doesn't matter if we're talking about paper masks or N95. It never has, it never will.

I highly recommend the Substack "Trust The Evidence", which is written by Carl Heneghan and Tom Jefferson. Tom is the lead author of the Cochrane masking review. You might find this article particularly interesting, as it addresses the "flaws" you cited above.

Over a year after social media influencer Zeynep Tufekci pressured Cochrane Editor Karla Soares-Weiser to put out a statement that smeared researchers and undermined Cochrane’s review that found masks have little benefit in stopping the spread of viruses, Soares Weiser released a second statement on Friday that announced she would not be making changes to the mask review.
Soares-Weiser’s reversal comes after Tufekci wrote a misleading March 2023 New York Times essay that disparaged the Cochrane mask review and falsely claimed she had “corrected” it. Bouncing off Tufekci’s spurious Times essay, author Laurie Garrett posted on X that the Cochrane authors were “bozos” who had confessed to “fraud.”
Suffice to say, there were no "flaws" in the Cochrane review. Despite blatant lies from everyone up to and including then Director of the CDC, Walensky, no changes were made to the review and it has not been "retracted". There was a coordinated smear campaign against the authors of this review because their data found that the mask mandates did not have a solid evidence base. The article above is a good place to start if you want to see exactly how "experts" react to data that doesn't support their narrative.

But... if you have conspiracy theorist caliper confirmation bias, none of that matters.

:rolleyes:

So cherry picking the studies that agree with your preconceived notions, and running with that.... is that the data integrity that I'm missing here?

That's what you're doing., This particular Cochrane review that has existed since 2007 is suddenly "flawed", in your opinion, for some reason. Also, you have to ignore scads of real-world evidence. There was literally nowhere that mask mandates were instituted where transmission was slowed. Not even in retrospect can you find the institution of a mandate and a correlating reduction of viral spread.

Let's take the studies wholistically - even the ones which may have been poorly designed. There are a lot of studies (if I'm not mistaken) which say that high quality masks work to reduce transmission, and some that say they don't.

Yes. There were tons of "studies" run on masking that supported the mask mandates, like the one I posted above. They gathered data by having people self-report in a telephone survey their masking habits and if they had COVID. Boy, that's some scientific rigor there! But no matter. It arrived that the "right" result, so they published it, and the media trumpeted it as if were the gospel truth.

Or how about the infamous CDC hairdresser study? Two hairdressers wore a mask and no one who they worked on got COVID. This is the foundation of the "science" of masking evidence. Methodology that would get you laughed out of a 5th grade science fair was all of a sudden the standard of evidence for the pandemic.

OTOH, you say that the Cochrane Review has "flaws", as compared to these astounding pieces of cow flop published int he CDC's MMWR. The irony is palpable.

Let's even be generous and call it a 50/50 split.

Are you aware of the evidence pyramid? Not every piece of evidence carries the same weight. Guess where the studies that found a benefit to masking sit in that pyramid?

A virus is circulating which results in death for some people

Yes. That's happening right now too. Why did people stop masking? There are always viruses circulation that will result in death for some people. You just don't hear about them 24/7, until the industry has a vaccine to sell you. Do you know how many respiratory viruses there are circulating. Yet we only ever hear about Flu, COVID and RSV. I suppose it's just a funny coincidence that those are also the viruses that have available vaccines.

The truth is, if you really believe in your altruistic stance that you're proposing here, you can NEVER stop masking. Not at any point. There are ALWAYS respiratory viruses floating around that could kill people. Always have been, always will be. So I hope you're "caring" for your neighbor by committing to masking every day and everywhere you go for the rest of your life.

Your position is that, even though the body of available evidence says that wearing a mask might prevent the spread of the virus to the vulnerable population,

That is not my position. My position is the body of available high-quality evidence says that wearing a mask does absolutely nothing to prevent, nor even slow, the spread of viruses.

the prudent path for one who reveres God is to NOT wear the mask?

I get that you've been convinced that masking is the ultimate altruistic gesture towards others, but it's simply not true.

My question to you is - what exactly do you stand to lose by wearing the mask?

Well for one thing, improper handling of PPE can actually increase your likelihood of infection. This is well-established, and "experts" warned of this at the beginning of the pandemic before every recommendation flipped almost overnight. Constantly touching your mask brings you in contact with viral particles that otherwise may have fallen harmlessly to the ground, but are now trapped in a mask that you carry with you everywhere you go. Did you watch people touching their masks during the pandemic? Did you see people crumple them up and put them in their purse or stuff them in their glove box, only to pull them back out again and put them back on their face? There are all sorts of downsides to wearing a mask in public.

Secondly, masks give people a false sense of security. By convincing people that they are now "safe": because someone has an ineffective security blanket across their mouth and nose, they are more likely to let down their guard. People who are truly at risk are now convinced that they can put themselves in high-risk situations that they may have otherwise avoided because they're wearing a mask. But it's a bit like telling someone that they'll be safe if they jump out of the airplane with a backpack that has no parachute in it. iIt might look good as you jump out of the plane, but you're in for a nasty surprise when you pull the rip cord.

Put aside the "righteous" protest against mask mandates... and forget they don't exist. Based solely on the basis of care for your neighbor, which is the more prudent choice, and why?

You've inadvertently hit the nail on the head for why people embraced mask mandates. It was never about evidence of benefit. Not only did the mask serve as a placebo for people who had been subject to relentless fear campaign, but it also made them feel good about themselves because they were "caring for others". They were "doing something". Unfortunately, that "something" they were doing was completely performative and had no real benefit.

Since you don't like the Cochrane review, how about this systematic review of masking by the CDC published in May 2020? I've emphasized the findings relevant to this discussion.

Face Masks
In our systematic review, we identified 10 RCTs that reported estimates of the effectiveness of face masks in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the community from literature published during 1946–July 27, 2018. In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks (RR 0.78, 95% CI 0.51–1.20; I2 = 30%, p = 0.25) (Figure 2). One study evaluated the use of masks among pilgrims from Australia during the Hajj pilgrimage and reported no major difference in the risk for laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infection in the control or mask group (33). Two studies in university settings assessed the effectiveness of face masks for primary protection by monitoring the incidence of laboratory-confirmed influenza among student hall residents for 5 months (9,10). The overall reduction in ILI or laboratory-confirmed influenza cases in the face mask group was not significant in either studies (9,10). Study designs in the 7 household studies were slightly different: 1 study provided face masks and P2 respirators for household contacts only (34), another study evaluated face mask use as a source control for infected persons only (35), and the remaining studies provided masks for the infected persons as well as their close contacts (1113,15,17). None of the household studies reported a significant reduction in secondary laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the face mask group (1113,15,17,34,35). Most studies were underpowered because of limited sample size, and some studies also reported suboptimal adherence in the face mask group.
Disposable medical masks (also known as surgical masks) are loose-fitting devices that were designed to be worn by medical personnel to protect accidental contamination of patient wounds, and to protect the wearer against splashes or sprays of bodily fluids (36). There is limited evidence for their effectiveness in preventing influenza virus transmission either when worn by the infected person for source control or when worn by uninfected persons to reduce exposure. Our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza.

Also, just to reiterate what I said earlier, that study also says this:

Proper use of face masks is essential because improper use might increase the risk for transmission.
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State leaders speak out about plans to expand the Islamic Academy of Alabama

Alabama’s senior senator has accelerated attacks on Americans of the Islamic faith and called for their forced deportation.

U.S. Sen. Tommy Tuberville accelerated attacks on Muslim Americans over the weekend, calling for the forced deportation of those of the Islamic faith.

The Alabama Republican’s remarks followed attacks on a school for Muslim children and Somali immigrants in Minnesota, accompanied by the filing of two bills targeting Muslims.

In recent days, Tuberville accelerated his assaults. On Sunday, Tuberville’s Facebook account posted a statement that said Islam is “not a religion. It’s a cult.” and claimed that “Islamists aren’t here to assimilate. They’re here to conquer.”

“Stop worrying about offending the pearl clutchers,” the statement said. “We’ve got to SEND THEM HOME NOW or we’ll become the United Caliphate of America.”

He also referred to the Islamic Academy of Alabama, which withdrew a proposal relocate to Hoover amid criticism and threats.

“I was asked about it,” Tuberville said during his comments on Thursday. “And I said the only place this Islamic academy should be moving is out of Alabama and out of our country.”

A spokesperson for the school declined to comment on Tuberville’s statement, referring instead to a news release published after the Hoover planning and zoning committee denied the school’s proposal to move its site from Homewood.

“Not one word of these allegations reflects the teachings, values, curriculum or culture of our school,” Stacy Abdein, the school’s assistant principal said in the news release. “They are irresponsible fabrications that fuel fear, prejudice and division.”
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The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

Old test scripture testifying to the saving death of Christ, His Blood for them He died for, or shed it for. Christs blood shed was in regard to a covenant death Matt 26:28

28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Now lets look at OT Zech 9:11


As for thee also, by the blood of thy covenant I have sent forth thy prisoners out of the pit wherein is no water.

That this is speaking also about Christ we appeal to Vs 9

9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

Which corresponds to Christ here Jn 12:12-15


12 On the next day much people that were come to the feast, when they heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem,

13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.

14 And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,

15 Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt.

Christs Covenant Blood brings Salvation with remission of sins! 9
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Erika Kirk slams conspiracy theories

The kids are innocent, it's the parents job to protect them. As far as I know, their kids are more protected. Than most kids. If she's going to continue to do whatever her husband did. Then she has to deal with what she complains about.
So you are saying that Charlie's memorial then deserves to be desecrated. Thank you for sharing. Truly the marks of a compassionate Christian.
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Let's Track the Economy (with objective empirical data?)

The unemployment rate in November rose to 4.6%, the highest level since September 2021.

....Amercans are not taking the jobs left behind by the two million people Trump claims to have deported this year?
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What Jesus Said About Adam and Eve

God gave us a living soul and that made all the difference. This is important. While biology can show that human bodies evolved from other species, it has nothing at all to say about how we became living souls.

It is disrespectful to demote God to a mere "designer." Limited creatures design. God creates.

You are the one that is disrespectful, insinuating that that is the only way I view God.
Demoting God to "designer" denies his omniscience. God has no need to figure things out.
The theory of evolution is just that, a theory.
The theory of gravitation is just a theory. Gravity and evolution are observed phenomena.

Perhaps you don't know what a scientific theory is. What do you think it is?

Mankind having faith in their own wisdom and reason is the greatest stumbling block on the way to salvation
Faith should be good enough for you.

How did self reliance and self actualization work out for Adam and Eve?
I had no idea that they had any concept of self-actualization. Do you have a verse?

so when our Lord Jesus interprets Scripture literally
Do you have a verse wherein He says all scripture is meant to be understood literally?

My faith tells me that I would be foolish to assume such a doctrine formulated by a man, or men. You are free to take that risk, I am not willing to do so.

Fortunately for you, what you think of the way God created things, will not determine your salvation. Only if you make an idol of your interpretation and insist that all must believe it to be saved, will your salvation be at risk.
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