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Gallup: Drop in U.S. Religiosity Among Largest in World

Not all theocracies are created equal. Just because I wouldn't want to live in an islamic caliphate doesn't mean I would mind living in a Society of Friends led presbyterian government, or even a Sihk or Brahminist government if I have to go with a non-Christian religion. The specific details matter, not just broad strokes categories that are barely informative.
No thanks. No islamic caliphate, no presbyterian one either. No Sikh or Hindu governments that you. No religious governments at all, thanks.
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Fundamentalist or Evangelical?

Ah. In that case, it's not very helpful that I've been throwing the names of American denominations at you. Sorry.

I didn't know that the no-drinking-no-dancing thing was found outside the US. I also thought that Christian Fundamentalism was primarily an American phenomenon. Well, I get to learn new things every day.

I know that there are Christians in various parts of the world who are well-read in philosophy and other subjects, because I've read their writings. There are also many Christians in the world who aren't distracted by things like prohibitions on pop music and dancing. But I don't know about specifics of churches in your area, unfortunately.

Blessings to you in your journey, wherever it leads.
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President Trump Jokes That Eric Metaxas Is the ‘Guy Who’s Going To Get Me to Heaven’

Best-selling author and radio host Eric Metaxas shared a video of President Trump pointing at him and joking that Metaxas is the “guy who’s going to get me to heaven.”

Explaining the context of the video, which has over 6 million views on X, Metaxas said, “Last night, at my friend Mike Wilkerson’s wedding at Mar-a-Lago, the President showed up. As he walked in, he pointed right at me and joked, ‘This is the guy who’s going to get me to heaven…’” Metaxas shared that he “laughed” and then told the president, “‘I’d really like to talk to you about that…but another time.’ Then I reminded him, ‘Don’t forget—you’re America’s Supercentennial President.’”

“Truthfully, I would love to have that conversation with him one day. But this wasn’t the place,” Metaxas told his social media followers.

“The Prez was SO gracious to show up at my friend’s wedding and obviously taken with the happy couple. When he saw me he joked that my evangelistic efforts were having an effect but he was pulling away so it wasn’t possible for me to say more,” he added. “I would have loved to! Pls pray for that!”

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Robert George resigns from Heritage Foundation board over Kevin Roberts video

Robert P. George, a Catholic academic focused on philosophy and law, resigned from his board position at the conservative Heritage Foundation on Nov. 17 after the think tank’s leader Kevin Roberts posted a video defending Tucker Carlson’s interview with Nick Fuentes.

In the interview, Carlson and Fuentes bonded over criticism of Israel, and Carlson pushed back on Fuentes for tying his criticisms of Israel to Jewish identity and blaming “organized Jewry” for the American support of Israel. Jewish organizations and some conservative and other political commentators argued that Carlson platformed Fuentes’ views and kept a friendly tone without adequately pushing back against antisemitic claims. Carlson allowed Fuentes to speak uninterrupted and challenged general blame levied against Jewish people but did not address each specific claim Fuentes made.

Roberts, who has since apologized, said in his initial video that he abhors “things that Nick Fuentes says” but urged debate instead of “canceling him.” He said Heritage would stay friends with Carlson and criticized the “venomous coalition” attacking Carlson.

In the video, Roberts said: “Christians can critique the state of Israel without being antisemitic.” Roberts issued an apologyfor using the term “venomous coalition” amid accusations that it was an antisemitic trope and said Heritage would continue to fight antisemitism.

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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

It matters to those promoting the error of “soul sleep” which is why you should be careful with some people’s intentions and having the proper understanding of the verse.
Human wisdom does not guarantee an absolute. Like I said, it can go either way but the result is the same. The thief following God's will placed him in the Kingdom.
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How pregnancy centers help women: Centers provide $450 million in value, report finds

When Jessica Williams became pregnant with another man’s child while she and her husband were separated, her husband pressured her to abort the child.

As soon as she took the first abortion pill, mifepristone, she regretted it.

“As a nurse, the reality of what I had done had hit me hard,” said Williams, who was nine weeks pregnant at the time. “Here I was working to save lives and about to take one of my own child’s lives.”

But as a nurse, Williams knew that in spite of the pill cutting off the progesterone supply to her child, the baby might still be alive. She hadn’t yet taken the second pill, misoprostol, which would expel the child from her body.

When she found a pregnancy center, First Choice Pregnancy Services in Las Vegas, staff immediately brought her in for an ultrasound.

“They provided a free ultrasound, and that moment changed everything,” she said.

Her baby was still alive.

First Choice helped her through the abortion pill reversal process, a practice to reverse the effects of mifepristone soon after the woman takes the first abortion pill.

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Release from Epstein files

Yeah.

A known trafficker of young girls has Trump's email over 1600 times; he's been talking out of two sides of his mouth for YEARS on this topic.

Of course there's nothing....that is the logical conclusion.


Yeah. Democrats are fighting about:
Democrat leadership is entrenched in old ways of thinking and don't support common people.


The Republicans are fighting about:

Should we release a list of child rapists
...and some of you guys are saying "no".

We don't "love" the republicans are fighting...well, I don't. Frankly, I find it sad and pathetic you guys are fighting. I find it morally represensible and a blight against America that there is a fight over this at all.



What is going on?!? Are you now suggesting that individuals who raped girls should NOT be arrested or at LEAST pursued to the full extent the law allows?


What happenned to the American right? You guys were bulldogs at "protecting kids" from trans book readings. Now you are suggesting we shouldn't bother releasing a list of child rapists?


When you guys reflect on this, doesn't it seem weird how your opinion on this issue has morphed so much?
Dude, im for releasing the files and letting the chips fall where they may. I could care less about protecting anyone who was involved in pedophilia. If you are a pedophile you should be locked up forever as far as Im concerned.

You do know that just because you emailed Epstien doesn't mean you are guilty of pedophilia right? Or even if you ride on his plane or had dinner with him?
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SO HOW DO YOU KNOW YOU ARE SAVED ??

And FLi. has it right ON. one some. and the book of HEBREWS. is just one. of. the books that. show why. that does SAVE

with CHRIST DEATH on. the CROSS. then Gentiles can be saved with Rom 10:9. and 10. and this means that ISRAEL

has been set aside. ,and means we the GENTILES. are saved by GRACE , EPH 2:8.
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and Jews can ALSO. be saved by 2 Cor 3:13-15. !!

And we ARE NOT VINES od BRANCES. as we are CHRIST'S we are his FOOT , we are his HAND , we are HIS his EARS , we are his EYES

we are his. HEARING , we are his SENSE of SMELL

We are CHRIST !!

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Grace is the life of God, the power of the Holy Spirit in us that enables us to overcome sin now. The New Covenant was never about being a reprieve from man's obligation to be holy but, in fact, is the means to accomplish that very holiness. "Apart from Me you can do nothing." John 15:5 That's what we're here to learn, of our absolute need for Him.
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The 2025 Government Shutdown Thread

What a farcical excuse for the worst healthcare of any modernised democracy. Hey, why don't you actually show us how this farcical claim actually works. Show us some figures, give us some data, reveal the evidence. I don't mind waiting while you investigate because I am certain that you've made zero effort to do so thus far.
It's not an excuse for Obamacare. It's common sense that with less people and the same amount of doctors that doctors will have more time per patient and thus better healthcare. Obamacare was subsidized from the beginning to hide the actual costs, and prices have gone up and up, the insurance companies and the Pelosis got rich and yet there were not better outcomes for patients. President Trump pushed competition in his first term, and that's the way to go.
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Catholic bishop calls Sheikh Hasina death sentence ‘one-sided’ and ‘abuse of power’

The secretary of the Bangladesh Catholic Bishops’ Conference has criticized the death sentence given to ousted Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina as unilateral and politically motivated, reaffirming the Church’s opposition to capital punishment.

Bishop Ponen Paul Kubi, CSC, of the Mymensingh Diocese, told CNA that the verdict handed down Nov. 17 by Bangladesh’s International Crimes Tribunal was “one-sided” and that “the accused had no lawyer and that the current government used political power to give this verdict.”

“The Catholic Church has never supported the death penalty,” Kubi said. “I think that even if Sheikh Hasina committed a crime, she should be punished in a way that is remedial.”

Describing the verdict as an abuse of power, Kubi added: “If we judge in a hurry and give a verdict as we wish, we are no longer living in civilization, we have gone back to the primitive era.”

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The Significance of the Temple Curtain Being Torn in Two

That a false gospel. Anti biblical.
I am not sure who it is your responding to when you make the claim that it is a false Gospel. Either way it assumes that you have a far greater understanding of the Gospel than they do. So then, it should be easy for you to explain why it is a false doctrine, and to do so without just parroting a bunch of scripture, which is common practice for those who don't actually know what it is their talking about. If you're unable, or unwilling, to defend your position, then maybe it would be wiser to not say anything at all.
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The Schumer Shutdown

How about that replacement that’s going to fix all this?
Thats a good point. I don't see one on the table from the Republicans or Democrats.

The point i was making was the Aca didnt actually fix anything and didn't do as promised and still is massively supported by subsidies and did not bring the cost of anything down. Its terrible, its costly and I think we were lied to about it.

But a different plan? Right now neither party has put one on the table as a serious alternative. But just because no one has doesnt mean Obamacare is a good plan.
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The 5 stages

The man of sin reveals himself as such by sitting in the temple of God, claiming that he is God.

2Thessalonians2:
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
No, that is what Paul surmised in a Letter to the Thessalonians, like Daniel he was npt in the know on those things, he took Jesus words in Matthew 24:15-16 and wrongly interpreted them.

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, {whoso readeth, let him understand} (Notice it says STAND, so it is not a person standing, but an IMAGE created that STANDS in the holy place)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

Paul was writing letters, not "Thus Saith the Lord Prophetic Utterances. Of course like we are doing here, with each other, we are giving interpretations, and many people on here are wrong, lots of times. Paul gave them his thoughts on what that statement meant. In Rev. 13 some 25-30 years later, John tells us what Jesus/Holy Spirit told him about this, that the False Prophet gets the people (the 2/3 Jews who do not repent) to create am image unto this man the E.U. President IMHO, whom John was told was the last Beast. The 2nd Beast (False Prophet, Jewish High Priest as was Jason under Antiochus) makes the Image at the 1290 (1230) and the AC can not go forth conquering until the 1260 (1260) middle of the week which is 30 days later. As a young Christian it never made sense to me why God allowed the AC to conquer Israel, then told them to flee Judea. But when one understands the AoD is the 2nd Beast, a Jewish High Priest like unto Jason, then it all fits........He forbids Jesus Worship in "his temple" (takes away THE SACRIFICE) and places the AoD which defiles the temple, which means God had to have cleansed the temple, it was defiled when Jesus died, God rent the temple or forsook Israel.

The TIMING FITS when you read Zech. 13:8-9, the 1/3 repent then in the very next vs. in Zech. 14:1 we see the DOTL arrives. In Malachi 4:5-6 we see Elijah is sent back [just] BEFORE the Great and Dreadful Day of the Lord. So, Israel repents via the 1335 Blessing (2 Witnesses) and thus the temple is cleansed by the 1/3 Jews going to "their temple" to Worship their Messiah Jesus. The False Prophet High Priest hates this and uses his connections with the E.U. Gov. to impose restrictions on Jesus worship for some made up reason, and he then will place an IMAGE of the E.U. President in the temple at the 1290, this gives the Jews 30 days to flee Judea before the AC goes forth conquering at the 1260 middle of the week events (DOTL).

John and Daniel were given the Prophesies, Paul was called to convert the Gentile Nations.

The Jews are looking for their messiah (someone they believe as other than Jesus).
They ARE NOT looking for a Gentile Messiah, the Beast is a Gentile. The 1/3 repent BEFORE the 1290 and 1260, at the 1335. The 2/3 are probably atheists or Orthodox Jews like the False Prophet.

John 5:43 was fulfilled in 67-70 AD. Jesus was speaking specifically to the Pharisees.

There is no biblical basis that Israel will join the EU. What is you basis for that opinion ?

The covenant to be confirmed in Daniel 9:27 for a 7 year period will be the Mt. Sinai covenant, in the method Moses described in Deuteronomy 31:9-31.
The word Covenant in Hebrew simply means Agreement. The Agreement will be with the AC and in Dan. 7 we see the 10 horns and Rev. 13 we see it has 7 Heads and 10 Horns.

7 = Divine Completion and 10 = Completion. So, the 10 represents the Complete E.U. reunited as one just like in Rome's day. The 10 horns arises out of the Fourth Beasts Head (Rome) as does the 1 Little Horn who arises amidst the 10 = he's born in the E.U. and Dan. 8:9 mandates he must be born in Greece AND Greece is in the E.U.

Israel CURRENTLY has 7 year agreements with the E.U. under the European Neighborhood Policy, look it up. The stated goal of the E.U. is to advance relationships with everyone in the region, the Israel is a signee and so is Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Tunisia, Morocco, Libya and Algeria these are THE MANY of Dan. 9:27, Dan. 8:25 and Dan. 11:40-43. Look it up, its on Wikipedia and elsewhere. Part of the E.U.s stated goals is to maybe one day offer STATEHOOD to some of these nations, to be a part of the E.U. The E.U. currently passes out over 15 Billion Dollars to these nations every 7 years. Now, lets look at Old Rome on a map, and the E.U. + Israel and THE MANY the AC will conquer in Dan. 11:40-43.

Rome in 117 AD

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The E.U. as it will look after it conquers Israel and THE MANY in Dan. 11:40-43.

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Turkey is not a part of the 7 Year Deals per se, but as Dan. 8:9 shows the Little Horn conquers TOWARDS the East and South or the born in Greece AC conquers from the Northwest, as the E.U. fits that bill also, because Greece is now in the E.U.

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See it now? The E.U. + Israel and THE MANY is why the Mortal Wound to the Fourth Beast is HEALED.

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what is Calvinism answer to how God works?

Well, that's helpful! I can answer you in your own framework, demonstrating its self-contradiction, but you can't answer mine, though you claim it is self-contradictory.
I don't need to answer yours because the supposed "problem" doesn't exist. God isn't double minded, so when He says He desires all to come to knowledge of the truth, what more is needed?
Who says anyone believes anything of their own accord? What does that even mean?
It means that whatever reasons a person claims to believe determinism are not actually related to their belief in determinism, should determinism be true.
Your affirmations only show that you affirm whatever you affirm. And no, I don't know what you mean by determinism —I can only guess. And I asked you to define free will in order to demonstrate its self-contradictory nature. I know full well you intend "libertarian" free will, which is in essence "full spontaneity", as though the free willed person was his own first cause, which is a logically invalid notion. That a person is free to choose as he will is self-evident. But what he always chooses is chosen at enmity with God, if he is not born-again.
You seem to misunderstand the argument, because it's not just that i affirm what I affirm, but that whether we affirm or deny free will we must do so on the basis of an act of free will. So in order to make an affirmation of determinism, the claimant must first demonstrate their affirmation to be false.
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Trump promises $2000 tariff dividend to all Americans

Those that can afford luxury will pay for it but the rest are filling stores like Walmart looking for the lowest cost. High quality is great if you don’t need that extra cash it costs to pay rent and feed your family.
And when you are buying them are you thinking deeply about how they are made by child or slave labor in authoritarian regimes so we can have a worthy peer to go to war with, like another poster suggested? Or are thinking about it at all and just buying whatever is cheaper?
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Refuting Losing Salvation!

Jews that disbelieve in Christ but love God will inherit the New Earth; and all the Christians will inherit the New Heaven.
That's not scriptural at all. John 3:16, John 3:36, John 6:29, 1 John 3:23. Be careful to add anything into your beliefs that aren't bible backed. You're altering salvation. Telling anyone that they'll be saved even if they disregard Jesus, isn't going to save them.

Also, search scripture to make sure people are correct in their stance of scripture. Quoting Albert Barnes, John Gill or literally anyone for that matter doesn't make them correct.

Albert Barns - Technically he's right but it's not just "worship" they broke the agreement they signed up for. They worshiped other gods and set up idols. An example of worship is prayer. How they prayed wasn't necessarily wrong, just who they prayed to. So it's not a 100% correct statement.

John Gill - There's instances in the bible of gentile nations following Jewish tradition. Jonah is a great example of that. What did the gentile nation do when they were given the warning? They repented. But not just repented... they clothed themselves in sackcloth and fasted which is a Jewish ordinance. So she's wrong in saying the gentile nations were "ignorant". God chose the Jews to teach the world about his ways and when they continually failed, God changed it to the gentiles to make them "jealous". I don't think she understands how salvation flowed from OT to NT.
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‘This is love in motion’: Church gives away groceries to 400 families in need

A congregation in Georgia recently gave away groceries to 400 area families in need.

Solid Rock Church of Midland, which has an average weekly worship attendance of 300 people, held a grocery giveawayevent on Saturday.

Lead Pastor Jay Bailey told The Christian Post that the event was “much more than giving away food,” as it was truly “about neighbor helping neighbor.”

“We decided to do the grocery giveaway because we realized that many in our community are going through a difficult time, and if we could, in some small way, make a difference in helping to fill the gap, we would be living out the love of Christ,” said Bailey.

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Anyone up for a chat thread?

True, but this sort of problem is endemic in our churches. So what would help improve them?
A long time ago a colleague once told me, "Some people are just malcontents." (colorful adjective omitted). Others are just determined to have their own way. Communication to navigate differences assumes both parties are at least semi-reasonable. Not everyone is.
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Priest kidnapped from home; Christian man killed during attack in Nigeria

Armed assailants abducted a priest and others while killing the brother of another church leader during a Monday attack in Nigeria’s troubled Kaduna state, according to a leading Catholic charity.

In a press statement, Aid to the Church in Need said it received an official communication from the Archdiocese of Kaduna stating that unidentified assailants attacked the residence of 39-year-old Father Bobbo Paschal, the parish priest of St. Stephen Parish, on Monday in the Kagarko Local Government Area. Paschal and many others were taken captive while the brother of Father Anthony Yero was killed.


“Church authorities are urgently calling on all people of goodwill to join in prayer for the safety and swift release of Fr. Bobbo Paschal and all those abducted, and for the peaceful repose of the deceased,” the statement reads. “ACN expresses deep concern over this latest act of violence targeting Christian communities and clergy in Nigeria and remains in close contact with the local Church as the situation develops.”

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Democrats finally vote to open Government

They're not going to approve a bill that has potential consequences. It would be incompetent to do so.
Not what I asked. I asked if they had the power to. They did. The Democrats on the other hand had no power to pass the bill on their own. Thus, the Republicans owned the shutdown because they could have unilaterally avoided it.
The amendment made in the Senate was not what Schumer's counter proposal was seeking. Read page 57 of the counter
proposal, which would've continued to fund everyone legal and illegal. The bill modification in the Senate only extended
the current healthcare bill. The House then approved it and sent it back to the Senate and then to Trump.
Ok? It's still a different bill then the one the House passed and thus would have required the House to pass again. Which would have been hard to do since Johnson intentionally recessed the house before the budget deadline with no set time to return. So even with this compromise, the shut down would have happened.
Schumer wanted to go back to spending $1.5 trillion which included illegal immigrants and as it was done
before Trump took office. Schumer faced criticism from the democrats when he voted for the resolution
back in March. This time he tried to appease them.

Even Senator John Fetterman (D) sided with the republicans and criticized the democrats for shutting down the government.
The democrats who negotiated with the republicans to reopen the government, blamed Schumer and the DNC for the
shutdown.
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that all those democrats are moderate to conservative, represent purple states, and were courting Republican votes.
The healthcare solution is only kicking the can down the road. Insurance companies will merely raise their premiums
based on how much the government is willing to give them. The president and congress, democrats and republicans,
are going to have to get us away from the "for profit," healthcare system we currently have. A single-player universal
healthcare package will have to be put together, which will be run by a private company with government oversite.
Guess who opposed Hillarycare and put out propaganda against it? The health insurance companies.
I mean I agree with you about this, but that's never going to happen.
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