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On the Taliban and the dehumanizing “regulations” of radical Islam

Establishing a government ministry to regulate people, creating a morality police department, and establishing laws that vanish the entire female population is saying, fundamentally, that people cannot be trusted to be good and do good.

The Taliban, who took control of Kabul and overthrew the government of Afghanistan in August 2021, have set up a ministry for the propagation of virtue and the prevention of vice. In August 2023, they published a document containing 35 articles, which are to govern the public and private lives of their citizens.

Some of these rules propagating virtues and preventing vices include: the full covering of women in public from head to ankle; women and girls forbidden from speaking, singing, or praying out loud in public; women and girls forbidden from leaving the house without a male relative or using public transportation without a male relative.

Men must be covered between the navel and knees if they are in public; they must grow beards; they are forbidden from wearing Western-style clothes, especially neck-ties, as they are a “sign” of the Christian Cross, which is a sign of infidels; men are forbidden from making friendships with Western people or acting in ways that resemble non-Muslims. Gambling, adultery, pornography, lesbianism, sodomy, and child sexual abuse are outlawed, as are the misuse of radios or the storage and viewing of images of human beings on phones or computers.

Prayers at certain times of the day are mandatory, and everyone’s work schedule, including taxi drivers, must comply to the minute. Farmers and merchants are required to pay certain tithes.

There is more, but you get the idea. No one is exempt from these rules, not even visitors to the country. The ministry has enforcers—a Muhtasib, who is an inspector—and there will be many of them employed to police the private and public lives of the people. The punishments range from one hour to three days in prison, or up to the discretion of the Muhtasib.

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Trump suggests he’ll release Jeffrey Epstein ‘client list’ if elected: ‘I’d have no problem with it’

House Democrats release new Epstein emails referencing Trump

The publication of the emails comes on the same day that House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., is scheduled to swear in Representative-elect Adelita Grijalva, an Arizona Democrat who won a special election last month.

Once sworn in, Grijalva is expected to provide the final signature on a discharge petition to force a vote on a House bill that would compel the Department of Justice to release the government's full investigative files on Epstein.
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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

But your trying to explain this in scientific material terms which defeats the whole idea of alternative knowledge to the scientific paradigm.

The best way I can relate it to consciousness and phenomenal experiences like belief and material sciences. They belong in different paradigms or the lens by which someone sees fundemental reality. Whether its something transcedent or the causal closure of the phycial is all there is to understanding the world and reality.
The lens by which someone sees a fundamental reality is ultimately the lense in our eyes. If it cannot be shown to exist, its effects cannot be observed or reproduced by experiment, if it has no tangible effect on the material world then science will not be able to come to a conclusion about it.

You are talking about "knowledge" that is, human ideas. The only way we can be aware of these ideas is by human action. Human action expresses those ideas in a tangible way accessible to science.
Some theories in Quantum Consciousness posit that Mind is fundemental and actually creates the objective world we see. So obvious there are two ways to see the evidence. One measures the physical and the other the Mind or the phenomena beyond the mind.

Already we see a major difference where science could not even measure the transcedent aspect of reality. Therefore if there is a transcedent aspect then this must connect with the objective aspect fundementally. Thus being immersed in the transcedent or spirit gives a deeper knowledge behind what we see. Thus being able to manipulate or transcend the material world.

Its from this basis that I think ancient knowledge could be more advanced because its more aligned with fundemental reality. We can see how modern physics is now toying with the idea that Mind or consciousness is fundemental and could unlock the physical world.

But remember this is spectualtion and an hypothesis. I am not saying this is exactly the case. I don't know. I am just attempting to explain a possibility.
You don't know, but you are sure that the Egyptians used this ancient knowledge instead of their own technology, even though you don't know what this ancient knowledge was or even very much about what Egyptian technology was capable of. OK.
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Another Church Destroyed in Nigeria

This is Chibok, yesterday.

Boko Haram took down a Church and it’s not even making news. Glory to God, no lives were lost

Context: Chibok is a Christian area in Borno south, where over 270 girls were abducted (mostly Christians) and a precondition for their release was based on renouncing their Christian faith.

For how long can we continue like this?

Another Church Destroyed in Nigeria – Deacon Nick Donnelly on X

The Schumer Shutdown

Um, why are the democrats in the Senate trying to stop poor people AND all the federal employees from getting anything? Think about that before answering.
You misplaced an effect for a cause. The intention, the purpose, the cause was to force Republicans to address healthcare. But Republicans were too obstinate and the shutdown happened. It was Republicans who used it to get what they wanted. And they did.
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New Epstein emails appear to reveal more Trump ties

Democrats on the House Oversight Committee have released three new emails from the estate of convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein that mention President Trump, raising new questions about the extent of their relationship.

In one 2015 email between Epstein and author Michael Wolff, the pair discuss a potential question from Trump's upcoming CNN interview about Trump and Epstein's personal ties.

"I think you should let him hang himself," Wolff wrote. "If he says he hasn't been on the plane or to the house, then that gives you a valuable PR and political currency. You can hang him in a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you, or, if it really looks like he could win, you could save him, generating a debt."

The Power of Praying with a Prayerful Heart

Imagine! Inner peace from God, a deeper relationship with Him, access to His powerful graces, strong faith, lively hope, and ardent charity—all these gifts from a few moments in prayer. This is the power of praying with a prayerful heart.

Newsome pushed back against Democracy to achieve his political goals

Those are already tilted to the Democrats. My point is there is little left for them to change.
That's more true of those vast tracts of red you mentioned.

You could fit nearly 100 Rhode Islands into Wyoming, but Wyoming only has one representative (and RI has 2). You can't gerrymander a state with only one district.
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U.S. bishops to consecrate nation to Sacred Heart of Jesus

The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) approved the consecration of the nation to the Sacred Heart of Jesus in 2026 to accompany the country’s 250th anniversary.

At the USCCB Fall Plenary Assembly in Baltimore, bishops voted “to entrust our nation to the love and care of the Sacred Heart of Jesus.” Devoting the nation is an opportunity “to remind everyone of our task to serve our nation by perfecting the temporal order with the spirit of the Gospel as taught by the Second Vatican Council,” Bishop Kevin Rhoades of Fort Wayne-South Bend, Indiana, said.

“One hundred years ago, in 1925, in his encyclical instituting the feast of Christ the King, Pope Pius XI, drawing on the teaching of Pope Leo XIII, referred to the pious custom of consecrating oneself, families, and even nations to the Sacred Heart of Jesus as a way to recognize the kinship of Christ,” said Rhoades, who serves on an advisory board for President Donald Trump’s Religious Liberty Commission.

To help Catholics prepare for the consecration, Rhoades said the bishops will develop prayer resources, including a novena. He said they are already putting together other resources for use by dioceses, parishes, and other groups to engage Catholics.

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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)


To influence Trump on Colombia, Sen. Bernie Moreno brought a fake image of the country's president in a prison jumpsuit


Two days before the lunch, Trump, at odds with Petro for months, posted on social media that Petro was “an illegal drug leader strongly encouraging the massive production of drugs” in Colombia. Trump said he was stopping all U.S. aid to the country and told reporters he would soon announce new tariffs on Colombia.

Moreno wanted to encourage Trump to take a more targeted approach — directly aimed at Petro. To do so, the senator brought along a document titled “The Trump Doctrine For Colombia and the Western Hemisphere.” In addition to five policy ideas, the one-page outline featured large images of Petro and Nicolás Maduro, the president of Venezuela, in orange prison jumpsuits.

Three days after the lunch with senators, the Treasury Department announced sanctions against Petro, his family and a government official over allegations of involvement in the global drug trade, with Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent saying in a statement that Petro “has allowed drug cartels to flourish and refused to stop this activity.” Petro has strongly denied involvement with the drug trade and has said he will fight the sanctions in U.S. courts.

On Sunday, the publication Cambio Colombia first reported on the existence of the document when it discovered that the White House had posted a photo from the Oct. 21 event showing James Blair, a deputy chief of staff, holding Moreno’s memo.

Petro posted on X that he was recalling the Colombian ambassador to the U.S. for the second time in a month and demanding to know why he is being portrayed “as if I were a prisoner,” calling the print-out “a brutal disrespect” to his supporters and nation.

Speak loudly and carry a banger meme.
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Artificial intelligence is not an all-powerful deity, university expert warns

AI is increasingly being used for scams.

Fortunately there are some who are using AI to fight back, although it remains to be seen how effective they will be.


Apate.ai, a spin-out from Macquarie University, uses conversational, realistic, multilingual AI bots to keep scammers on long fake calls, diverting them away from the many victims who lose money to global cybercriminals every day.
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Overturned bus injures dozens returning from California Catholic youth retreat

As a group of mostly teenagers made its way home from a Catholic youth retreat in the mountains of Southern California this past weekend, the bus rolled over at a winding turn, injuring 26.

Nearly 40 parishioners of Our Lady of Guadalupe Catholic Church in Santa Ana were on their way home from a three-day retreat at Camp Nawakwa in the San Bernardino Mountains on the evening of Nov. 9 when their bus crashed on a two-lane highway near Running Springs.

When emergency responders arrived, passengers were still escaping from the bus, with many exiting through the roof hatch. Twenty-six passengers were treated for their injuries, including 20 who were later hospitalized, according to the San Bernardino County Fire Department. Three passengers had major injuries.

Jarryd Gonzales, a spokesman for the Diocese of Orange, told CNA that the Diocese of Orange “offers heartfelt prayers and support to the youth, families, and staff of Our Lady of Guadalupe Catholic Church in Santa Ana who were involved in a serious bus accident.”

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MARK OF THE BEAST - REVELATION 13-14; 17; 18

I was with you until you projected past the New Testament era. The REALITY amongst theologians that matter is Daniel's 4 kingdoms are REALLY complex to interpret - but that it's past. It's either fulfilled by Rome or not - and the complicated apocalyptic symbolism around the end of this sequence is pointing to Jesus. Or not. It's very, very tricky.

I was lucky enough to have a Professor of Old Testament at my church for years - and even he says it's very, very tricky.
There are debates about how it might unfold around Antiochus - or up to Jesus. The years don't work as years either way - but might work as chunks - as rough fractions of time in a symbolic sense.

And Revelation borrows from this imagery, but John does his own thing with it. The 4 beasts are amalgamated into one - representing ALL God's enemies.

Trying to get literal with calendars just makes me yawn.
It's just. Not. True!

That's the way of endless disputes amongst various tribes of futurist - and is why I leave this forum for 6 months at a time.
When were you “with me.” You just disputed everything I said. None of which was futurism.
It’s only complicated when people try to make the Bible’s prophecy about the end of the world.
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Deal To End Shutdown Lets GOP Senators Sue Biden’s DOJ For J6

There's already an obvious Constitutional violation,
Is there though? Prosecutors requested a subpoena, got one based on showing probable cause, and collected the information that the subpoena allowed them to. Your disagreement with the prosecution's argument doesn't make it unconstitutional.
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Christians Killed in NW Nigeria, Homes Burned in Northeast

ABUJA, Nigeria (Christian Daily InternationalMorning Star News) – Seven Christians, including a 12-year-old boy, were mourned on Saturday (Nov. 8) after they were killed in an attack in Kaduna state, Nigeria, the same day Islamic extremists burned homes and a church building in Borno state.

At a funeral in Damakasuwa town, Kauru County in northwest Nigeria’s southern Kaduna state, hundreds of people including many from outside the area attended the service for the Christians slain on Oct. 31 by Fulani herdsmen and other terrorists, residents said.

“We have laid to rest seven of our beloved Christians who were killed by terrorists and Fulani herdsmen,” area resident Daniel Dodo told Christian Daily International-Morning Star News. “The funeral is a ceremony of tears being shed by Christians in the midst of deliberate violence against us because of our Christian faith.”

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Trump proposes 50-year mortgage



I think this is a wonderful idea. You get to save some money per month, and when you die halfway into paying back your mortgage, your legacy lives on.
I understand my kind of conservatism no longer exist today.

But back then when my kind of conservatism existed , we used to think should not intervene in matters between individual citizens and banks.
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Using AI vs. Talking To Humans

None, I would say a little sloppily because I think I get what you mean. My only objection is that your example is underspecified (perhaps mine was too, I should have said when a fluid flows over an airfoil) Automobiles don't all have the property of motion, but if we add some conditions I'm sure we could identify that as an emergent property as well. To me it only means it sometimes is meaningful to talk about phenomena at different levels of granularity.

Perhaps I stepped into a discussion without a good grasp of what was discussed.
I agree that things emerge, but simply saying that doesn't explain anything. If my young son asked me "Daddy, how does a car move?", I could give him an actual explanation - all about the engine, the transmission, the axle, etc., etc. But if I just say to him "the car's motion is an emergent property", I'd be telling the truth, but not really telling him anything worth saying.

It's the same with the video that brought this topic up. The fellow says that human free will is an emergent property, but doesn't actually explain how it emerged.
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B flat B♭

If Tartaria could receive signals from the Ionosphere, why couldn't we do today, after all the Elite knew all about Tartaria and it's free energy from the Ionosphere.

What they have done is just use Tesla's knowledge on the subject & have just put a cash meter on it.
Because the ionosphere is notoriously unreliable for long term signal transmission and reception. Anybody can receive and transmit signals skipped off the ionosphere, I've received them myself with short wave radio for example. But anybody who has done so can tell you that the ionosphere's properties are very dependent on conditions, even the time of day and solar flares affect its reliability.

My satellite equipment has given me years of reliable reception. The only problem I had was a number of years ago when I lost some channels when other people were still getting them. The problem was at my dish which I resolved.

But apart from that, and the change over to HD signals as opposed to SD, I have had more than twenty years of reliable and consistently clear pictures, any time day or night. The ionosphere cannot provide that consistency.

As for a cash meter, I don't pay anyone for the free channels. I just bought the equipment, installed it and all the channels I get are provided free.

You seem to like AI overviews, so here's one for the ionosphere:

"Reliability of radio signals from the ionosphere is highly variable due to its constantly changing nature, making communications prone to disruption. Factors like solar activity, daily cycles, season, and geographic location significantly impact the ionosphere's ability to reflect radio waves, which can lead to signal degradation, blackouts, or unpredictable performance. Reliability can be improved by choosing the correct frequency and using modern models to predict ionospheric conditions, but it remains a significant challenge for consistent communication."
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