Easter Sunday vs Bible recorded Resurrection Day
- By rstrats
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No, I don't. Why do you ask?Do you dispute that figures of speech are common in every language?
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No, I don't. Why do you ask?Do you dispute that figures of speech are common in every language?
Egypt was in the same place it is today -- the delta and the flood plain of the Nile, surrounded by the desert. It was a thoroughly agricultural place then and now just as the central valley of California is today. This talk about some primative connected to nature talk you keep invoking does not resemble ancient Egyptian agricultural civilization of 6000 years ago. (The people who made the vases, and the one ones who 1000 years later made the pyramids.)The area was actually quite wet due to the Nile delta and ideal for crops. They used the natural fertile basin. I guess thats why they chose such a place.
Have you ever been anywhere *NEAR* agriculture? Agriculture is about planting things and caring for them until they can be harvested. It doesn't matter how many times you pray for rain or to avoid locusts or hail, if you don't plant and don't harvest you get nothing. Framers know this and they have always known this. Demonstraing they sacrificed ibex to their gods for good crops (or any other religious activity) doesn't make agriculture based on spirits or gods.But I am talking about the spirits and gods that agriculture was based on. What role this played as part of the natural and spiritual world they lived in.
You keep saying things like this and I wonder something....How they treated the plants and respected nature and worked with it.
Ancient knowledge, nah, but your claims of them -- you betcha.Are you trying to rationalise away all ancient and indigenous knowledge as just imagination.
There population was around 1 million at the time period we are discussing, but this "are the peaks" thing would be from the study of cultural anthropology of religion. Have you read that literature on the subject of who was the most spiritual civilization of all time? (I suspect they would actually dismiss the notion of measuring it, but tell me what it says.)An evolutionary by product of survival.
I think there were two aspects going on at the same time. The further you go back the more everything was gods and spirits. The Egyptians and other megalith cultures are the peaks. As populations grew they became less based on the spirits and gods. Obviously progression naturally takes over.
That I think is why this spiritual knowledge was lost. Just as the Indigenous and native peoples culture and knowledge was lost as colonialism grew.
The Egyptians being a peak were transitioning. So we can see both the gods and spirits as well as modern civilisation taking over. They were really the first great civilisation who invented many things.
So it is just your speculation.So I think when we go back it becomes more spiritual.
Because it is lost in the mists of time, if not mythology.What the Egyptians call the time of the gods. In fact most cultures have the same transition and refer to the ancestors as the time of the gods or spirits.
A thousand or more years later.I thought it was common knowledge that just about everything was seen through the eyes of spirits and gods or some transcedent entity. Even later pharoahs actually made themselves gods.
Are there gift tags: "To Ra"? Are there texts on the walls stating the purpose as gifts to their gods? My recollection of Egyptian grave goods is that they are placed in the tomb with the body so that the deceased can use them in the after life which is why they include foods, cosmetics, etc.The precision vases were for the gods. They were placed in tombs to bring favor to the gods.
Keeping in mind that Jesus was a "damnationist," in fact, he is the only one in the NT who speaks of hell.If the damnationists are correct, most of them are punished for being born in the wrong place.
A thought is not a behaviour. It might seem complicated but it is really not.So it is and it isn't behavior. I guess you win since I am at a complete loss as to how to respond to that.![]()
When following the scriptures with my translation, it says at the second sixty, it will be returned. The second sixtyth week is when Jerusalem was returned to Israeli control in 1967. So it doesn't give the 7 62 1 in the first set.As to the timing issues: so if 1542 was the start, we should have seen something in 1976 (marking the 62nd week), which I can't find. Treaty with Egypt in 1975, 1977, 1978, but nothing really notable.
I'm totally open to the idea of 2025-2032 finishing out the 490 years, but I just don't see the evidence for that.
For my part, I view the 70 weeks as double but with 2 literal 70 weeks portions. One 70 week portion to get us from a Jerusalem Day (call to restore Jerusalem holiday) to Sukkot.
(Purely hypothetical!)
June 5, 2024 (Wednesday) to Sukkot/ Feast Tabernacles (Tuesday) Oct 7, 2025 which would begin the Trumpets in earnest (with the major effects coming on the 'winter, Sabbath' Dec 20/ 21, 2025).
Feast of Tabernacles is referenced at the start of the Trumpets in Rev 7 as I've shown here in this post:
Sukkot and Shushan Purim
Because some forum members think that the idea of the great tribulation beginning on the Feast of Tabernacles is strange, I thought I would put this post up. Does the Bible give clues as to the timing of the events of Revelation? Once we look at the timing of the 6th Seal, then hopefully the...www.christianforums.com
The mistake I made there (if the Trumpets have indeed begun) is that I assumed the 5 months of Rev 9:5 were Bible / Hebrew lunar months and didn't count on solar/ Babylonian months. March 7, 2026 constitutes a 5 month timeframe going from Sukkot and ending on a Sabbath, (the 'winter, Sabbath' of Matt 24:20).
The 'locusts' appear to be the armies of the US/UN that will enforce the 'flood' peace treaty (if this is the start).
The 2nd set of 70 weeks would be the last part of Dan 8's 2300 days: add up the timeframes of Revelation: 150 days (5 Babylonian months) + year, month, day, hour + 1260 days + 3.5 days + (implied) 490 days to cleanse the temple defiled by the 2nd abomination at the 7th Trumpet= 2300 days.
Cuba was far left. Communism.
Again, there is no recent hermeneutical evidence or scholarly evidence to change the comma. I’m sorry that it doesn’t agree with your doctrine but you can’t use the “it shouldn’t be there” error to justify it.Your first two paragraphs confirm the reasoning for punctuation being added in the 1500’s as I stated. However, for you to say, “The comma is of no consequence to the context or message of the verse” is void of rational reasoning. As it is placed in our bibles today, the verse states that the thief and Christ both would be in paradise that very day. And this is what you and most christians believe including many scholars. When the comma is placed after the word “today”. It reads, “truly I tell you today, you will be with me in paradise.” Which coveys the thought that Christ promised the thief that day, that he would be with Him in paradise but not specifying when. Completely different meaning of the verse as most individuals would agree.
Yes there is no doubt that Jesus died before sundown the sixth day of the week, Friday to us. But to say that, “There is no precise time of death for the thief but it does not need to be,” does not further your position, since you believe Jesus told the thief they would be together that, “very day” the sixth day of the week, in Paradise.
You also state, “Moving the comma after the word today does not make any sense in the context of the verse or the message that Jesus was conveying.” Actually the comma in either place assures the thief that he would be with Christ in paradise, the placement of the comma determines the timing, of which we disagree.
What will you do with Jh. 20:17, In which Jesus told Mary, early on the first day of the week, “touch me not for I have not jet ascended to my Father.” Surely you can see that Jesus did not go to Paradis to be with His Father the day He died, which stands in opposition of what you understand Lk. 23:43 to convey. To ignore it is not a pathway to clearly understand all that the Bible has to say on this subject.
There are people who are going to lose their healthcare.ah, the nazi card - been a while since that has been pulled out.
Who here believes bipartisanship (Democrats working with Republicans), is similar to the nazi's - good grief!
What do you mean? He already gave the example that if Trump cured cancer we would still find blame! How much more do you want?Maybe you want to reword that. You just said some people criticise everything he does for no reason. Maybe you can throw one or two examples out and we can investigate.
If people here want to have a conversation with AI they’re better off just skipping the middle man and pose their questions directly to AI and not the poster they’re replying to.What is the difference between AI or using Google, Wiki etc to research and post?
Besides speed and ease of use?
If the post is in error - then show the error - otherwise what is the difference?
Or deport them back to Womenistan.Easy. No different with Blacks in the south and Hispanics in Texas, you go to the census and find out where those young white women live, and then you gerrymander those districts till those districts look like Jackson Pollock paintings.
And if she was the hundredth such woman to come across your door? 10,000? You seem to believe that this is the only needy person who is coming to these churches asking for help, which is almost certainly not the case.If a woman came to my door with a crying child I'd slam rhe door in their face and say, nope nothing for you.
Pretty awful when I say it like that hey? Maybe the church could learn a lesson there.
Is adoption not eternal? What's the difference?The predestined us to adoption is not to eternal life, but that believers would be adopted to Jesus as sons
Some of Jesus' last words on the cross - "it has been fulfilled", "it has been accomplished", or "it is finished".Always have been in that respect...other than Yeshua coming through the line of David.
Where did Jesus say keeping the commandments was not enough in these verses? The commandments the rich young ruler said he kept were not the commandments about loving God. Which is why I beleive Jesus was testing him over.21 And he said, “All these I have kept from my youth.”
22 When Jesus heard this, he said to him, “One thing you still lack. Sell all that you have and distribute to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
It's not about "the Protestant denominations," it's about the word of God in Scripture.Well, looks like the new Pope wants to get closer to the Protestant denominations. He puts out a decree that firmly rejects the claim that Mary is Co-Redemptrix...
The Scriptures seems clear....In the new covenant, what we are to obey is to be in our hearts that we act on those things.
That's easy for him to say when he's got a 3-year buffer to the next election. I find it curious that no Democrats up for re-election in '26 voted for it (Durbin and Shaheen are retiring).Tim Kaine - who's in a state with over 100k federal workers - made a statement (justifying his support for voting in favor of re-opening) to the effect of "people are expecting their elected officials to vote to reopen, and those who don't, could very well be replaced at the ballot box"