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House Democrat exchanged texts with Epstein during 2019 congressional hearing

What's that old saying 'don't throw stones if you live in a glass house'. Its funny how on just about every issue the Dems have gone crazy and fixated on in trying to blame Trump and Rep with. It ends up being the exact thing the Dems have done.

You can just about know where the Dems are at by using the very accusations they label Trump with. Those who judge others have to be prepared to be judged by the same standards.
This is so very true. Just a few examples, gerrymandering, insurrection, destroying democracy, talking campaign money from big corporations and billionaires, more recently starving children. This could go on and on but I believe the point is made. You are absolutely correct if they are claiming Republicans are doing something wrong you can bet they have already done or are doing it now.
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An Epistemological Look at the Resurrection

And what would be the epistemic goal in letting those of us who are still Christian know that the historical evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus is, as you've said, "weak"? Is your intention to merely inform us? To infuse us with needed Critical Thinking skills that we often lack? To humble us and urge us to appropriate doxastic humility, especially where politics is concerned?

I have to ask because being that your divulgence to my earlier question implies that theology and apologetics will be stepped on here in the attempt to explicate a particular view of The Philosophy of History and/or Historiography, you run the risk of having this thread closed and removed. And that would be an unfortunate waste of time for both of us.
My goal is to inform, to challenge, and to help people think more clearly. Every worldview is a philosophical claim, even the Christian worldview. That said, I'm going to end this thread, because I don't want to run the risk of spending so much of my time on something that's going to be deleted. I'm surprised that so many Christians are unwilling to be challenged, not that you're necessarily saying this, but the implication is there. I see this on the political left all the time. They shout you down, refuse to listen, and ostracize you. It's a way of sealing themselves off from counter-evidence, and it's a shame. Not all Christians are like this, but many are. I want to listen to your response in case I've misinterpreted something.
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Six Democrats urge military members to 'refuse illegal orders' in viral video; Hegseth responds

First, there are already processes in place for dealing with unlawful orders such as the chain of command and the judge advocates. Second, where the heck were Democrats when service members were being kicked out of the military for refusing the COVID vaccines? Third, what illegal orders are these democrats talking about?
You can make a reasonable case that orders to bomb boats with alleged smugglers are illegal. You can also reasonably argue that use of the national guard in cities has often been illegal. Judge rules Trump's National Guard deployment to D.C. is illegal. In both cases, however, these issues are going to be dealt with in the courts. It would not be a good idea for individual soldiers to disobey.

On the other hand, Trump has been pushing the boundaries of presidential powers. It's not unreasonable to ask whether in the next 3 years he might go further and issue orders that should be rejected.

It's not so clear that the chain of command is going to work in this case. There's reason to think that JAG's are being overruled by politicians, as noted in a previous article. The Comey prosecution is another example of the same thing: the real prosecutors were fired, and someone brought in whose only qualification was a willingness to do the prosecution. This is not an administration that can be relied on to use internal controls.
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Is the Bible inerrant?

That is very kind of you. :pray:


It does not include the perspectives or traditional ways of practicing Christianity that some Christians know are valid, and that do not require belief in inerrancy or infallibility of the Bible. I will go through it for the rest of this post, I will use italics for direct quotes from the article you linked, and dark blue for quotes from other articles or documents.

"The Bible claims to be infallible in 2 Peter 1:19, “We also have the prophetic message as something completely reliable.” Peter continues with a description of how Scripture came to be: “No prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things. For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit” (2 Peter 1:20–21)."

There is clear point about what 2 Peter is reffering to with the word "Scripture" - 2 Ptr 1:19-21 - "This is often used as a proof-text about the whole of Scripture being effectively authored by God, but this goes well beyond what the passage is actually saying. Firstly, it refers specifically to OT prophecy, not to the whole of the Bible as we now have it." Bolding mine, from this link - What does the Bible really say about inerrancy?

The Got Questions website, which is the source of the article which you linked to, says this
"Actually, 2 Peter 1:20 emphasizes the source of Old Testament prophecies, not who has the right to interpret the Bible today." Bolding mine, in another article here - What does 2 Peter 1:20 mean about interpreting Scripture? | GotQuestions.org .

"Also, we see infallibility implied in 2 Timothy 3:16–17, “All Scripture is God-breathed” and has the effect of producing servants of God who are “thoroughly equipped for every good work.”

"Firstly, the Bible ‘is able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus’ – in other words, the Bible points or leads you to the person of Christ and encourages you to have faith in him, which is what ‘saves’ you. So the Bible here is simply the witness to Jesus." Bolding mine, from the same link above - What does the Bible really say about inerrancy?

Again, Got Questions itself makes this point elsewhere - link to article called "Do I have to believe the Bible is inerrant to be saved? - Do I have to believe the Bible is inerrant to be saved? | GotQuestions.org, which says "We are not saved by believing in the inspiration or inerrancy of the Bible. We are saved by believing in the Lord Jesus Christ as our Savior from sin (John 3:16; Ephesians 2:8–9; Romans 10:9–10). At the same time, though, it is only through the Bible that we learn about Jesus Christ and His death and resurrection on our behalf (2 Corinthians 5:21; Romans 5:8).

"If God is infallible, then so will be His Word. The doctrine of Scripture’s infallibility is based on an understanding of God’s perfection of character. God’s Word is “perfect, refreshing the soul” (Psalm 19:7) because God Himself is perfect. Theologically, God is closely associated with His Word; the Lord Jesus is called “the Word” (John 1:14)."

This, I myself cited in post #39 of this thread, and it is very important. The article appears to condradict itself with this bit, because absolutely the first verses of the Gospel of John make it clear that "the Word" is not actually the Bible, but Jesus. Fervent seems to have been trying to say the same thing in post #29, with my apologies to Fervent if I am wrong about that.

In the Christian faith tradition that I follow, we have a historic document that refers to this matter, based on John 1-14 "II. Of the Word or Son of God, which was made very Man The Son, which is the Word of the Father, begotten from everlasting of the Father, the very and eternal God," and our position on the Bible is refferred to here "VI. Of the Sufficiency of the Holy Scriptures for Salvation Holy Scripture containeth all things necessary to salvation..." and "XX. Of the Authority of the Church...and yet it is not lawful for the Church to ordain anything that is contrary to God's Word written, neither may it so expound one place of Scripture, that it be repugnant to another." Link to 39 Articles of Religion - 39articles .

"It should be noted that the doctrine of infallibility concerns only the original documents. Mistranslations, printing errors, and typos are obvious human mistakes and are easily spotted, most of the time. However, what the biblical writers originally wrote was completely free from error."

It is for this reason that I asked "Which one?" in my first post in this thread, I meant "Are we talking about inerrancy in the original hand written and untranslated form, or one of 776 languages this is a link, or about 900 English language versions. This is a link."?

"The Bible claims complete (as opposed to partial) perfection in Psalm 12:6, Psalm 19:7, Proverbs 30:5, and many other places."

Psalms and Proverbs written before the New Testament existed, before the Incarnation, do not necessarily refer to anything written after themselves.

"It is factual throughout"

Now this is a problematic phrase, because we know that the Bible is a diverse collection of different types of literature, many of which are not even attempting to be factual. That does make any part of the Bible false, or fallible, but it does make this statement wrong.

"and, in fact, judges us (rather than vice-versa),"
No, it is a collection of books, and it is powerless without the saving influence of the Holy Ghost to guide and secure our comprehension of it's messages.

“The word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart” (Hebrews 4:12)."

Again, "the word of God" is identified here already, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made." John 1 1-3 NIV
Thank you very much for the time and effort you put into all of that to address things for me. I really do appreciate it and will bookmark to reflect.

My husband and adult child are not believers. We read the bible almost nightly, though, and they have many questions about events, timelines, authors etc. Some of these are addressed in the study bible I am using, some are not. Some I would like to be addressed via church elders but they have not come back to me after I asked to whom I should go for these questions. We don't pause reading the bible but the questions remain unanswered, in the meantime.

I know that we have had Tyndale Publishers in our church who often refer to Greek texts and translations, and who are not happy with the NIV translation, for example, due to errors in translating from Greek to Latin to English etc but I have no one sitting down with me to confirm a) provenance/validity of Greek texts being used as a measure b) breaking down the translations re: how they are versus how they should be e.g.

So, I really only have CF and the internet to use for a guide and I hope this explains why I have come across so passionate about trying to understand things.

Again, thank you for your time and effort.
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Can Truth Be Known? How

It wasn't the components of ark material that David valued, but the power of God that killed Uzzah

2 Sam 6
6 And when they came to Nachon's threshingfloor, Uzzah put forth his hand to the ark of God, and took hold of it; for the oxen shook it.
7 And the anger of the Lord was kindled against Uzzah; and God smote him there for his error; and there he died by the ark of God.

The Law it seems is indeed a KILLER. Maybe not in such dramatic fashions as Uzzah, but the shadow of that event definitely STUCK here:

Romans 7:
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died

POWER against Uzzah killed him. Just trying to "help out" the law

The Law needs no help of man. It proved all of us, sinners, long long ago. In the Garden iirc, on day one
I never said it was the components of the ark material that David valued, not sure where you got that from.

You are misunderstanding the Scriptures. It wasn't the Law that killed Uzzah, it was his own disobedience that killed him, doing something that God told them not to. The Law shows us our sins, so we do not depend on what we feel is right our wrong, but reply on God's righteousness.


Still doesn't change anything from my post about what David believed of the ark of God- where God holds His Testimony written by God Himself Exo31:18 Rev15:5 that is under His mercy seat Exo25:21 where justice and mercy will come together soon Exo20:6 James2:11-12 Pro28:13 Rev 11:18-19 based on God's standard of Truth Psa119:151 and Righteousness Psa119:172, which His endures forever Psa119:142 Psa100:5, not based on our truth or our righteousness (right and wrong doing)
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Weekly homilies

Homily Monday, November 24 2025

34th OT



Daniel 1:1-6, 8-20

The question of food in Daniel's time is not an issue for Catholics. Except for meat offerings to idols.



The example we can draw from this is to distance ourselves from evil and allow ourselves to be loved by God.



Allowing ourselves to be loved by God, drives away evil.



Luke 21:1-4

What Jesus says here is a lesson in itself:

"Those others have all made offerings from their surplus wealth, but she, from her poverty, has offered her whole livelihood."



As we know, Jesus wants to guide us to the realities of heaven.



The "surplus wealth" is a danger of pride.



But, for the little woman, she is present with her heart, and in her heart is peace.



Let us be like this little woman who allows God's Love to go ‘round.



Let us allow all people to discover simple joy within themselves.



God's Love is in all hearts.



Biblical texts: NAB-RE

Normand Thomas.
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The Sheep of His Pasture

“Shout joyfully to the Lord, all the earth.
Serve the Lord with gladness;
Come before Him with joyful singing.
Know that the Lord Himself is God;
It is He who has made us, and not we ourselves;
We are His people and the sheep of His pasture.
Enter His gates with thanksgiving
And His courts with praise.
Give thanks to Him, bless His name.
For the Lord is good;
His lovingkindness is everlasting
And His faithfulness to all generations.” (Psalm 100:1-5 NASB1995)

In the United States of America, where I live, marked on our calendars is a yearly day of celebration and thanksgiving to God. Evidently, one of our former presidents by the name of Abraham Lincoln, who was later assassinated, declared it a national holiday in 1863 during the Civil War. “Lincoln’s proclamation was a way to unify the nation during the war by establishing a day for ‘Thanksgiving and Prayer’” (source Google AI). And this day of celebration will be this Thursday, November 27, 2025.

But for us who have trusted in Jesus Christ to be Lord and Savior of our lives, every day should be a day of “Thanksgiving and Prayer.” Every day we should be giving thanks to the Lord for the breath of life and for his love and forgiveness, and for saving us from our sins, and for giving us new life in him to be lived for his glory, and for his purposes, and for his praise. And this is not to be verbal only, but from our hearts of gratitude, and shown in how we live our lives in submission to God and to his purpose for our lives.

For thanksgiving to God is not in words only or it is not true thanksgiving. For if we are truly thankful that he saved us from our sins, and that he has given us new lives in him to be lived for his purpose, then we should be following him with our lives in doing what he commands. We should be walking in obedience to his commands, and sin must no longer be our practice. This doesn’t mean that we will never sin (1 John 2:1-2), or that we will never fail, but day by day we should be following Jesus with our lives.

“My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.” (John 10:27-30 NASB1995)

Yes! As Jesus’s true sheep (followers) we are to be listening to (heeding, following, obeying) his voice, and we should be following (obeying, abiding by) his teachings and his commandments (New Covenant). And we are those to whom he gives eternal life, and we will never perish, and no one can snatch us out of his hands and the hands of God the Father because we pay close attention to our Lord’s words, and we love and obey our Lord and his teachings, and we follow him wherever he leads us in doing what he says.

And that is the best thanksgiving and praise that we can give to God, is when we bow to him in submission to his will and we follow him wherever he leads us in doing all that he commands that we must do as his followers. Yes, I am certain that he loves to hear us sing praises to him and to give him verbal thanks and praise, but provided that our praise is sincere and that it is accompanied by genuine submission to him as Lord of our lives. For the praise that he desires most is our surrender of our lives to him as our Lord.

And this will be evidenced by us serving him with our lives in doing what he has called us to do collectively and individually. And it will be shown through our humility in recognizing that all we have is from the Lord and not of our own doing, and when we become his true and abiding sheep (followers). For true thanksgiving to God is not in lip service only, but in surrender to his will in doing all that he commands that we must do as his followers. And the Lord is good, and his lovingkindness and faithfulness is everlasting. Amen!

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

My Sheep

Based off John 10:1-30 NIV
An Original Work / June 24, 2012
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love


My sheep hear me. They know me.
They listen to my voice and obey.
I call them and lead them.
They know my voice, so they follow me.
They will never follow strangers.
They will run away from them.
The voice of a stranger they know not;
They do not follow him.

So, I tell you the truth that
I am the gate, so you enter in.
Whoever does enter
Will find forgiveness and will be saved.
Nonetheless whoever enters
Not by the gate; other way,
He is the thief and a robber.
Listen not, the sheep to him.

Oh, I am the Good Shepherd,
Who laid his own life down for the sheep.
I know them. They know me.
They will live with me eternally.
The thief only comes to steal and
Kill and to destroy the church.
I have come to give you life that
You may have it to the full…

They know my voice, so they follow me.

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The Sheep of His Pasture
An Original Work / November 23, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Phil Keaggy - Strong Tower

As a young Christian and someone who was into Led Zeplin, Floyd, Hendrix, and Cream ect Phil Keaggy filled that gap well. Even better as even his guitar work sounded Christian lol. I remember having the Sony Walkman and listening walking down the street or on a bus. It was great.

My favorite song was 'Time'

I love the studio version of the original album 'Love Broke Through'. But I also like this later version from a few years ago.

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The new mind. Not politics

Oour responsibility lies in working for the Lord, whether it is in “looking after orphans or widows in distress” (James 1:27), giving to the hungry, the naked, visiting those in prison (Matthew 25:35-36), serving in our workplace (Colossians 3:22), or doing whatever we do (Colossians 3:23). And our motivation is that we have God’s own promise that our work “is not in vain” in the Lord “since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving” (Colossians 3:24).
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The goal of Christianity in 'Not' to stop sinning!

16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
Excellent citing. Shall not fulfill never said we won't have the lusts to contend with.

The lusts are in fact demonic in origin. We are all "tempted" in mind. Often quite subtly I hear. Most think it's just them, but it's not.

There's a very good reason to take "every thought" captive. Captives belong in jail.

When Paul says "bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ" just how might that apply to our adversary, the tempter (or his own unseen influencers)?

We know where the Word is sown, Satan steals, resists, tempts, etc.

So, anyone can test this theory for themselves.

How many times has any believer read Mark 4:15 and said to themselves, "that doesn't apply to you because you are a believer?"

I did, perhaps thousands of times as I've read scriptures a lot for a long time, before it finally hit me, that it DOES happen to me. Kind of an Oh Crap moment for me because, you see, I had been in DENIAL of Jesus' Own Words, openly so, and never saw it or realized that voice in my head doing the DENYING was "not me."

Welcome to the wrestling match
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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

So have anyone measured the 10 kN vibrations in the pyramids? This presupposes that the pyramid vibrates, this is directly measurable. Why doesn't those proposing it just measure if it is the case or not?
I thought the electromagnetic wave effect at the location of the pyramids has already been established with the Schumann resonance frequency.
Resonating electromagnetic waves with a frequency of around 8 hertz which can be measured in the Earth's atmosphere. This natural phenomenon is called the Schumann resonance frequency.

This causes a constant vibration in the quartz crystals. So any further effects are building on this. The way the stones are located in relation to each other. The granite chambers are under tremendous pressure and the addition of certain acoustics and all sorts of activity can be produced.

The modelling that the findings are theorised on has only just been done. Still further modelling is needed. Then this has to be physically applied. Getting access to the pyramids for testing is another story.

I think so far the only on site testing has been on acoustics which shows piezoelectric effects concentrated in the granite chambers. In fact from memory the effect increased as it reached the Kings chamber. So the design at least for sound energy was intentional I think. The chanting and all that.
The authors mean to put the hypothetical system in an area with geothermal and seismic activity.
Yes and I think there are some papers on the granite and basalt stones showing evidence of thermal and/or stress damage. But also I think the reflective outter casing if white or bright would have radiated.

They may have harnessed natural weather events such as thunder storms and lightening. But just the location with so much quartz crystals and underground water ways. It was an active location in many ways and potentially it seems unreal that the Egyptians would not of at least come to understand all these natural events going on around them.
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Solemnity of Our Lord Jesus Christ, King of the Universe











Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

Not what I said, but your outlook tells you otherwise. Yes, death was the result of A&E putting their will ahead of the Will of God. It was a factory built safety in case we went rogue like the elohim previously. The dead were dead as resurrection never became a thing until 2000 years back. Choice was what Jesus gave us as to whether we follow the Will of God or our own in achieving the Kingdom. Those that died before Jesus still had been told all through the OT of the same choice, the same choice given A&E. The difference is now, yes, we still will die as soon as we put our will first and we all do, but now we get a chance to repent and find life again, having understood and shown we are worthy of the Kingdom and accept His will over our own. That understanding was not available to A&E as they had not yet taken the knowledge to be able to understand. They were restricted to 'don't touch' as they had no way of understanding why. We do and should make the right decision, not thinking we can have it both ways, pulling a rabbit out of the hat on our deathbeds but lacking the fruits to prove our allegiance to the will of God.
Man, you sure used a lot of sticky tape to hold your theology together. It's like the patchwork on a Mosaic Quilt, it's inconsistent and incoherent. Makes no sense at all and it's unbiblical.

I don't know who the "elohim" are that you're referring to. If you mean the "Angels who sinned" then just refer to them as Demons or fallen Angels.

I don't know what you mean by "the resurrection never became a thing until 2000 years back". If you're suggesting that those who died before Christ came into the world, were under a different covenant, then you're wrong again. God only made two covenants with mankind. The first was "the covenant of the law", only Adam and eve were under that covenant. And the rest of mankind is under thew "covenant of grace".

No third covenant was ever made so we are under the same covenant as Abraham (He is a born again Christian), just as Job, Moses, David and all those who lived before Christ came were.

The only difference between Moses and myself, is Moses placed his trust in the coming Messiah and he was saved by the same Lord Jesus who saved me. But I look back and Moses looked forward. None of us met the Lord Jesus,, but both of us were saved by Him.

God never gave anybody a choice, you have no choice. There is no such thing as free will, because everyone is born into slavery to Satan. Nobody can escape Satan's grip on them, if God doesn't free the captive, then nothing else can.

There is no difference now, the only difference is, I know more than Moses and Abraham put together, they would have loved to know what I know but it was hidden from them. I have the completed canon of scripture, while they only has fragments.

The biggest problem with your theory, is that you failed to take onto consideration the fact that a leopard cannpt change his spots. Just as the natural man can't change his nature. We can only act according to our nature, we are all born with a sin nature, so we sin because we are sinners by nature.
You can't, change your own nature, because you don't have access to the reprogram your operating system Only God has access because He knows the the password.
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Last Sunday After Pentecost








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‘Just atrocious’: Trump’s polling numbers just hit a new low

If only Kamala had gotten elected, then we would be in good shape as millions of illegals keep flooding across the border.

Where do you think economies come from? The sky? Bad economies require bad decisions by business people. They need to go out of business, so businesses who make good decisions can take over. That process is cut short by government interference when it tries to make the economy better.

What really happens if the people via the government keep interfering with the economy over many decades? All those bad decisions accumulate until the economy stops working normally, then it is ready for a depression. This takes about 60 to 80 years of stability. We are at 80 years now.

The damage was already done before Trump got elected. It's too late now.
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The Miraculous Medal Novena

Day 6... 11/23/25

O Immaculate Virgin Mary, Mother of Our Lord Jesus and our Mother, penetrated with the most lively confidence in your all-powerful and never-failing intercession, manifested so often through the Miraculous Medal, we your loving and trustful children implore you to obtain for us the graces and favors we ask during this Novena, if they be beneficial to our immortal souls, and the souls for whom we pray.

(Privately form your petitions here.)

You know, O Mary, how often our souls have been the sanctuaries of your Son who hates iniquity. Obtain for us, then, a deep hatred of sin and that purity of heart, which will attach us to God alone so that our every thought word and deed may tend to his greater glory. Obtain for us also a spirit of prayer and self-denial, that we may recover by penance what we have lost by sin, and at length attain to that blessed abode where you are the Queen of angels and of men. Amen.
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When You Lose Interest In A Series You Once Liked

I don't know if the internet is the cause, but I find it almost impossible to watch more than 10 or 15 minutes of a movie or tv show before I have to find something else to do. Yet I'd watch YouTube! shorts for hours if I'd let me. I've got the attention span of a three year old.
Yeah that might have ruined us. But then again it seems to me that flipping through yt shorts isn't much different than channel surfing. A little while ago I saw that Roku has Law & Order. But it's live streaming and I didn't want to be tied down to sitting through a whole episode without being able to pause it.
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Do you keep the Sabbath? (poll)

That is your interpretation of the Scriptures. God anointed Apostles for us to obey, not a book for us to interpret as our limited minds see fit.
Scripture has right interpretation and wrong interpretation. Jesus being tempted by Satan in the desert proves that beautifully. Satan quoted scripture to Jesus in order to tempt Him to sin.
Satan’s interpretation was not wrong, but is was incomplete and misleading in an attempt to get God to contradict Himself. Jesus rebuked him.
I am a disciple of Jesus Christ, and I subject myself to Apostolic teaching, of which we have a record over the last 2,000 years.
Has anyone referenced any of that? Did the Apostles teach the scriptures the way they are being taught today? I don’t see a concrete reference that they did. We even have evidence that they taught contrary to what is being promoted by modern Christians that rely on sola scriptura.
Have modern Bible readers received direct commission from God to go and promote their interpretation and compel obedience? If you are honest, you would have to confess no, but you believe your interpretation is correct.
So what am I to do? Subject myself to those personally anointed by God or subject myself to the opinions of others on what the scripture should say?
Jesus gave the great commission to the Apostles telling them to teach all that I have commanded YOU. He did not hand out gideons bibles and tell them to go into all the world and give them this book and let them figure things out on their own. The Bereans used the scriptures to test Paul, when Paul was shown to be true, they obeyed the Apostle. They did not start an independent Berean congregation

If y’all want to believe modern prophets in no way connected to the Apostles and follow independent thought that is your choice. Do you know where the word heresy comes from? It is derived from the Greek word for choice, hairesis.

It’s ironic that the 1960s counter culture began with growing long hair. You can even hear the song about it from the play Hair, a celebration of freedom of thought and even modern people call themselves pro-choice Ironic that they all sing of the glories of heresy

I whole heartedly agree with your last statement, Sabbath blessings. Jesus is the author of salvation to all that obey Him. It does not say to all that obey you.
To command obedience, one must have Apostolic authority, not free choice independent thought. The Apostles were anointed with tongues of fire, and spread their anointing through the laying on of hands. We have the direct line of apostolic succession all the way back to Peter. What commission from God do you have that we should believe you rather than them?
In order for you to hold yourself above the Apostles, you should at least know what they taught. Have you read Iraneus, demonstration of the Apostolic preaching? Have you read the Catechism of the Catholic Church and all the references included with the teaching?
If not, then you are speaking from independent thought or free choice aka heresy. I don’t follow that choice, I obey God as your final quote states
I admit that my own thoughts can be in error and I submit to being corrected by apostolic teaching. We do not subject ourselves to the choice of men.
I never wrote the Ten Commandments- that's God's Testimony that the Holy Spirit personally wrote Deut4:13 Exo31:18 Rev15:5, something He said He would not change. No where in the entire Bible were the apostles commissioned to change God's times and laws and teach another gospel than what God commanded.

Have you ever dated someone that did all kinds of things for you? Gave you everything, but what you asked. I think we can do that to God. But Lord Lord did I not do this in your name, but Lord Lord did I not do that in your name, only for Him to say I do not know you Mat 7:21-23 because you did not do what I asked.1John2:3-4 God wrote out what He asked plainly in Stone - than wrote it in our hearts 2Cor3:3 Heb8:10 Changing a jot or tittle, yet alone a whole commandment or two, is no longer doing what He asks, but our own will. Its really that simple. We can follow the crowd, or be faithful to what God actually said that comes with His power of His sanctification and blessings. Something no church has the power to do, despite their claims.

... you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify.
—The Faith of Our Fathers, by James Cardinal Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore, 88th edition, page 89. Originally published in 1876, republished and Copyright 1980 by TAN Books and Publishers, Inc., pages 72-73.

If you want the blessing and sanctification of God- keep the Sabbath Isa56:2 Eze:20-12- if you want your own sanctification and believe your church has more power than God- one to remove His sanctification and than transfer to a day God made for works and labors Exo20:9 by all means keep going in the direction your heading. We are told whoever we obey is who we serve (worship) Rom6:16 so I guess it will get sorted out in God's time.

To command obedience, one must have Apostolic authority, not free choice independent thought. The Apostles were anointed with tongues of fire, and spread their anointing through the laying on of hands. We have the direct line of apostolic succession all the way back to Peter. What commission from God do you have that we should believe you rather than them?
This is a misunderstanding of Scripture. You will not find one verse in the entire Bible where the apostles changed God's times and laws- that is something they understood to be bad Dan7:25 and not something they ever did in words or in actions. They faithfully kept every Sabbath in church with both Jews and Gentiles just as Jesus said- My house will be a house of prayer for all nations Mat21:13 and that is on the Sabbath- just like Jesus did who was theirs and our example to follow Luke 4:16 for those who want to join themselves to God, love His name(God) and to be His servants and holds fast to God's covenant- that He said He would not alter His words Psa89:34 not a jot or tittle Mat5:18-19

Isa 56:6“Also the sons of the foreigner
Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him,
And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants—
Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And holds fast My covenant
7 Even them I will bring to My holy mountain,
And make them joyful in My house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices
Will be accepted on My altar;
For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.


This is what Jesus said who has all authority

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go [c]therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” [d]Amen.

No wonder why the apostles observed every Sabbath decades after the Cross with both Jews and Gentiles as Jesus predicted

Acts 13:42 So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.

Acts 13:44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.

(fulfillment of Jesus prophecy that My house will be a house of prayer for all nations)

Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks.

Acts 15:21 For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath.”

Because God does not change. The Sabbath was from the very beginning made for man started at Creation Exo20:11 and will continue on for eternity where all of God's saints (saved) will continue the Sabbath for worship but instead of in spirit since sin separated man from God, it will be before the Lord Isa66:22-23

We do not want to miss this! But if we are so opposed to God's holy day now, will we suddenly want to once He returns? If God was going to force His will on people we would not be in the mess we are in today a world full of sin and sorrow. We can follow traditions, but it doesn't come with the sanctification or power of God, no wonder why Jesus told us to obey God's commandments over man Mark7:7-13 Mat15:3-14 and the apostles never taught anything different Col2:8

I do wish you well and hope you will consider what God says because while there may be temporary great authority on this earth- its not equal to God's.
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Needing a pastors counsel

I don't feel like I can pray right anymore. I'm scared I'm going to hell. I hallucinated audible demons. I have diagnosed schizophrenia but it felt so real.
I pray that God directs a pathway for you, both spiritually and physically, and pray that in Jesus' name.

Are you on a prescribed medicine, and taking it ?
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