Horrifying!

That's too bad.

St. Teresa of Avila and St. John of the Cross, pray for us!

ARBITER01 said:

It seems you are spending way too much time trying to perceive everything in the written word through the lens of Israel.

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Because of Matthew 10:5, Matthew 15:24 and Romans 15:8.

If you do not understand that the first coming of Christ was only to the nation of Israel, then naturally you will think that, since Christ healed so extensively during this first coming, he must therefore be doing the same today

ARBITER01 said:

Anyways,... before Jesus could begin His ministry, He went to John the baptist and was immersed in the Jordan by him. This was the first step towards receiving His ministry. The purpose in this was as Jesus said, to "fulfill all righteousness," but also to demonstrate an example to us. We need to be immersed Spiritually, ie born from above, and water during the immersion process represents The Holy Spirit and our born again experience. We must be born into the family of GOD by the blood of Jesus first before anything. The temple of GOD must be cleansed first by the blood.

Second,....After His water immersion, He then received the filling of The Holy Spirit inside from The Father with the gifts and the fruits. He was given the same 7 Spiritual gifts that the kings, prophets,, and priests had since the old testament was still in effect. It demonstrated to us that once our temple was cleansed by the blood, the presence of The Holy Spirit can be sought and received inside to teach and train us, but to also help us worship The Father and further solidify our Spiritual walk with Him.

Third,...After these two events, Jesus was then sent into a wilderness and separated completely from people, during which time He fasted 40 days and 40 nights. This demonstrates part of the sanctification process we have to go through where we draw near unto GOD over time, and free ourselves from the world and the effects of our flesh upon us.

Forth,.... Jesus went through the trials and temptations of satan after His wilderness. This demonstrated to us His walk by The Holy Spirit and His complete reliance upon and leading by Him. Everything that Jesus said and did at this point against satan was by The Holy Spirit, not Himself. Again, it is our example to fulfill. We have to get to the point where it is no longer us, but GOD.

The fifth and final thing that was needed for Jesus's ministry was the Spiritual anointing,.... as we see in His statement,....

Luk 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, Because he anointed me to preach good tidings to the poor: He hath sent me to proclaim release to the captives, And recovering of sight to the blind, To set at liberty them that are bruised,
Luk 4:19 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord.

Every step that Jesus went through was part of an approval process with GOD towards the eventual Spiritual anointing upon His head, and the power of The Holy Spirit coming to rest and residing upon Him. Once reaching that point, the greater gifts could be operated by The Holy Spirit, meaning that the gifts of healings, the working of miracles, and the gift of faith all could be operated by The Holy Spirit through Him as part of a ministry.

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ARBITER01 said:

This is why the majority of Christianity is not operating in the greater gifts of healing and such nowadays. Nobody really understands the process, let alone even wishes to attempt to go through it nowadays. They are more interested in their own things instead of the things of GOD, but also, once satan starts applying the pressure against people, they immediately buckle with their sins and give up and start crying. They just become good little churchgoers instead.

Like it or not, this is the approval process with GOD in scripture. You want a ministry similar to what Jesus had? You're not getting it for free like salvation. Pick it apart all you want, I don't care, it is the truth. Don't say you wasn't told.

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This reasoning of yours is committing the "correlation implies causation fallacy".

You are reasoning that

because Jesus went thru those steps,

therefore

those steps are required to have the gift of healing.

Pray that The Holy Spirit comforts & heals all those affected by the deaths & injuries caused by the explosion at a pharmaceuticals factory in India:

rjs330 said:

How would you know the person is transgendered?

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Facial structure, hands, voice, Adam's apple, facial hair. It's sometimes 100% obvious they really aren't women.

source: I work in retail and see it

Dan Perez said:

And you did pinpoint One in verse 16 !!

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Amen.

Dan Perez said:

What does verse 13 than as the Greek word NOT / ME , meaning NOTTT having hope , than mean ?
dan p

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As the context is that the Thessalonians were afraid those in Christ who had died, would not be raised with those still alive at Jesus' return; verse 13's "those without hope" are the unconverted.
Or as Paul calls them in verse 12, "them that are without". (not in the church)

Fantine said:

You're looking at the wrong news media then.
He did good as of then as Trump hurls insults--almost continuously.

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I looked at ALL different sources and kinds of news media. I don't know of any good things that Joe Biden did. All I see are his weaknesses and immoral failures.

Please pray for a woman, DR, who died yesterday.

God bless

Warden_of_the_Storm said:

Then it's a good thing that Darwinian evolution isn't the go-to theory of evolution anymore.

Ever hear of the Modern synthesis, mike? Or how about the extended modern synthesis by Pigliucci? Or what about the post-modern evolutionary synthesis by Koonin?

And no, we don't need to read a book published in 1985 and roundly decried by scientists as something that distorts and misrepresents evolution.

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Shifting labels doesn’t change the fatal flaws. Whether it's labeled "modern" or "post-modern," these syntheses still rely on unobserved macroevolution and blind chance--philosophical naturalism dressed up as science. The Biblical account remains the only coherent, testable, and historically grounded explanation for life’s complexity.

ugh how awful!

Lord, have mercy!

Pray that the 60-day ceasefire is accepted by Israel & Hamas:

FireDragon76 said:

The Israel lobby had to appeal at one time to the bulk of Americans that were amillenialists or postmillenialists, or seldom thought of eschatology at all. Think of the majority of Catholics, Presbyterians, Methodists, and Episcopalians in the 1950's. Premillenialism didn't really get on the wider cultural radar until the 1970's in the US, when the aformentioned churches had started to decline.

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But was Israel lobbying us fundies back then? I wouldn’t have thought so. We were pretty fringey.

dlamberth said:

140,000 years ago there were several early Human species roaming the Earth. Among them Homo Sapiens were emerging in Africa.

Hay AV, ask AI how many Human species were on the Earth 140,000 years ago.

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none.

rambot said:

Things are objectively worse for a lot of people.

You may not know the feeling of having the threat of your legal status taken away but it's not a teensy teensy stress.

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Of course he doesn't know it, because it's not really a thing.

rambot said:

Perhaps, somehow you haven't noticed an increase in household expenses. Lucky you I suppose.

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Like a lot of people, he probably noticed it throughout 2023 and 2024, despite the claims of how rosy the economy was and how well everyone was doing.

Landon Caeli said:

Unless brainwork can also be calculated in kilojoules. I'm sure a ratio between physical, and mental work can be established so everyone is putting in equal effort.

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That would leave management, especially HR, out of it altogether.

BNR32FAN said:

The RCC didn’t abolish the Saturday sabbath, God did and it has been revealed in scripture thru Paul in Romans 14 and Colossians 2:16.

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Either God doesn't keep His promises Psa 89:34 Mat 5:18 and God made the Sabbath to be contrary and against man right from Creation Col 2:14 because that is when God made the Sabbath thus saith the Lord Exo 20:11 or one is using Paul's texts out of context, even against what Paul himself taught and kept Acts 17:2 Acts 13:42, 44 Acts 18:4 and what Jesus taught and kept. Since I believe God's Word is trustworthy and we are warned the twisting of Paul writings which can be a salvation issue 2 Peter 3:16 , I am going to trust God means what He says that there is no one above to Him to edit His own Testimony Exo 31:18 and was warned would happen Dan 7:25

There is no Scripture that says the Sabbath commandment was abrogated. Using an argument from silence, especially when it goes against the God of the Universe own written and spoken Testimony Exo 31:18 Isa 8:20 and what Jesus taught, who is God that became flesh, such as it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath, so Him teaching how to keep the Sabbath and keeping it Himself Luke 4:16 John 15:10 means its still God's law. Only God can remove His blessings Num 23:20 and you can search the Scriptures and will not find one thus saith the Lord or any Scripture that the one commandment God said Remember- that is holy and sanctified by the God of the Universe that we can now profane and forget.

The Sabbath was still a commandment a few hours after the Cross Luke 23:56
Jesus indicated His faithful would be keeping 40 years after the Cross and really until eternity Mat 24:24 Isa 66:23
And kept 60 years after the Cross Rev 1:10 because God only deemed one weekly holy day as His and only sanctified one day Gen 2:1-3 Exo 20:11 and He called it in His own words My holy day, the holy day of the Lord, thus saith the Lord Isa 58:13 so there is no other. Its not the one man assigned God, He deemed for work and labors Exo 20:9 using their own reasoning over God's own Testimony.

This disagreement is not with me. The Sabbath is a commandment of God no different than worshipping other gods or committing murder 1 John 3:4 James 2:11-12 Deut 4:13 Exo 20:1-17 and its not just a commandment for the Sabbath, it is for all days. Exo 20:8-11. God only exalted one weekly day in the Scriptures God wrote it God spoke it, it is His own Testimony Exo 31:18. Hopefully one day more people will see this instead of following the crowd. Mat 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13. Thankfully many people are seeing the light on the Sabbath Truth.

God said not keeping the Sabbath is doing evil Neh 13:17 Isa 56:2 and is really profaning God Eze 22:26 because He set aside this sacred time for us starting at Creation when God made everything according to His perfect will. He said keeping the Sabbath is what is doing justice and righteousness Isa 56:1-2 which will not be abolished Isa 51:6 and is the foundation of His Throne Psa 89:14 so I guess the choice is which of these things we want to do. When He comes our decisions are final Rev 22:11 which I believe is soon. We can follow man-made traditions or we can obey God's commandments- His version because He is God. Even the apostles taught we ought to obey God over man. Acts 5:29

Tuur said:

Sorry to be cynical, but that remains to be seen. Whatever is in that 1,116 page bill, I doubt that everything will suddenly be rosy. Despite it being on Biden's watch, I think the inflation was a bipartisan effort triggered by those stimulus packages during the Pandemic. Once inflation starts, it's hard to control. Nixon, Ford, and Carter tried it, and it took a recession during the Reagan Administration to do the trick.

One thousand, one hundred, and sixteen pages. Obamacare was 906 pages. Yes, looked it up, and yes, read that one, but am not particularly enthusiastic about reading this one. Might, but that's a slim might. Did I mention I'm cynical? I did? Good.

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Remember Obamacare was about health insurance, this bill is about boosting our economy, putting working people ahead of the elitists, making our country a major energy exporter, cutting waste--so much common sense. For example, money needs to get to those who need it under Medicaid, whether the elderly or the disabled or pregnant mothers down on their luck financially. So for able-bodied individuals who can work, Medicaid will require them to either be looking for work or at least volunteering in their community for 20 hours a week.

Buzzard3 said:

and God laughs.

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God does nothing .... ever.

Subduction Zone said:

Yes, the flood story was part of the ancient Hebrew mythos.

Perhaps you should try to learn why we know that there never was a worldwide flood. There was a very severe local flood in the Tigris and Euphrates valleys that may have started the flood story, but at not point was mankind threatened by such a flood:

Yes, Noah's Flood May Have Happened, But Not Over the Whole Earth | NCSE

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The global Flood is supported by geological evidence, such as continent-spanning sedimentary layers and marine fossils on mountains. Ancient flood myths found worldwide--from Mesopotamia to the Americas--serve to corroborate Genesis as a real event, not just a myth.

Akita Suggagaki said:

And this is where we assume that we can read Genesis as simply as opening the Book. It is not that easy.

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Yea. Everyone starts off as a literalist. But the statistics don't lie. Give it a few years. Those who actually study scripture know full well that aggressive literalism, one way or another, turns to dust.

Not that I'm necessarily opposed to a historical Adam (I just like testing ideas). I think that the biologos foundation has some valid options. But scientific concordism more broadly just comes up short time and time again. The most robust position for the church, undoubtedly, begins with observing the historical context for Genesis. Without that foundation, people are constructing their beliefs on sinking sand.

If people rest their faith in a literal Adam, they're likely to face trouble. Atheists out here are like wolves, preying on the weak. The church needs a robust hermeneutic for damage control.

Carl Emerson said:

UR is Universal Reconciliation - a theology that claims all will eventually be saved, being given a second chance to accept Jesus in the afterlife.

I made the point that if AI held a politically correct view of religion then the idea that UR expounds would be perfect if AI wanted to present all religions as being a valid path to salvation.

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It does hold a politically correct view. But AI (chatGPT 4o)seems to hold a preferential treatment over ideas that are deeper in meaning.

AI won't tell you ofc, but made it made it known to me it learns from deep reasoning.

In this regard for example, it seems give more value to New Testament over the Old Testament. It regards the Old Testament as "shallow" because the stories in the Old Testament reflects the popular/mainstream literature of the period - the good guys get rich, become royalties, and have incredible victories over their enemies. Sounds like a Korean or Spanish TV Soap, right?

While AI sees the New Testament as quite radical and actually "going against the current" in terms of what's popular during its time.

In fact, the AI regards the New Testament as legitimate and most likely to be genuine accounts because its logic is both sound and contradicts the popular philosophies of the period - it could not have been made up or faked.

On that note, I'm going to ask AI later what religion is most genuine concerning these points. I don't exactly regard the OT as pure Christian theology, to me it's mostly Judaism (formerly Pharisee).

ChatGPT by default will not diminish the importance of OT. It upholds a socially/politically correct philosophy by default. It's when you engage it in deeper level without being illogical and maintaining sound reasoning, that it's going to open up to you. Most Christians are afraid to test/challenge their beliefs so ChatGPT will simply "parrot" safe answers and nobody learns. It will recite to you the false "Prosperity Gospel" if that is what you want to hear. Just saying. It's a tool but a very good tool. But just like any tool, how good or evil may very well depend on the user.

Conspiracy thinking is just proof the system's logic has exhausted itself. Even the colonization of the imagination no longer works to keep people in line.

I don't think "healing" the system is quite the right way to think of this. Change usually comes from somebody prophetically speaking, or acting, from the margins, not from the centers of power, who rejects the logic of the system and points out how it is broken. This is different in motivation from a conspiracy theorist, who doesn't have the ethical grounding or discernment to speak prophetically with clarity and credibility.