mourningdove~ said:

Winter is coming!
(Anyone old enough to remember this? )

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I remember those as well as those raincoats we all used to wear that made us look like knights!

12 is the number of lictor states in the original Roman Kingdom. To me this signifies it’s restoration. It doesn’t exclude the multitudes, who take part in the second resurrection, but the first fruits, or the first born, inherit the power structure.

essentialsaltes said:

Speaking of name changes...

Sources: Trump wants Commanders' new D.C. stadium named for him​

Well, at least it's not RFK Jr.

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Trump knows how this works. Pay the naming rights through the Trump Organization for a few million per year and the name can be his.

How clean is clean?

Carl Emerson said:

Jesus spoke truth and often offended.

Discuss how this applies in our world.

Are we loosing an 'edge' if we don't offend?

Is the church largely silent on public issues for this reason?

Your input appreciated.

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“The church”? Do you mean some sort of collective “all who profess Christ”? There is a wide range of such. Left and Right

I understand Islamophobia, religious intolerance (Across the board) and fear mongering

How ever I will point out that there is a Mosque and religious center about an hour from here, that offers a food bank for EVERYONE I mean ANYONE Not just Muslims. They have a free clinic for ALL PERSONS including free eyeglasses ANYONE can seek help there

With SNAP Benefits unavailable, they will be granting meals and food to anyone who needs groceries. ANYONE Free Food Just show up with the SNAP card and get some food on the table

I made mention a week ago to a friend who is a Baptist pastor that with SNAP benefits declining perhaps the congregation should pitch in and help out those who need food.

He has yet to respond

I am increasing donations to local secular/community food banks now since no churches are involved, I am giving directly to secular community food banks and charities. I really do not know many Muslim people, but if they
asked me for help I were surely help them

keras said:

The Jewish State of Israel. Which is a misnomer as they represent the House of Judah only.

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It is not a misnomer. The majority of individual Jews themselves don't know which of the twelve tribes each of them belong to. They are expecting the messiah to inform them. That is what the Jews have told me.

The priests to serve in the coming rebuilt Temple on the temple mount must be of the tribe of Levi.

The nation of Israel has been reunited. You have no viable explanation regarding Ezekiel 37:15-18, the reuniting of the nation of Israel.

Fervent said:

You weren't in a dialogue,

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Call it what you like. We had exchange a series of posts. If you are going to respond to my post, respond to what I wrote and support. I am not part of a team. I am not here to back any one specific poster or to oppose them. I may even agree with you on occasion.

Fervent said:

you butted into a conversation that was already going.

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This simply isn't true. I responded to a post about a scientific paper. That post was made in response to a post by you, but..;

I discussed the paper, not you or your ideas.
I discussed the science, not morality (the overarching theme of this thread and sub-forum.)

If (as you say below) the paper was not relevant, you had no need to reply to me or talk about my post. You did both. When I did reply to your first response, I did reply to your post not directly to me, but a very similar post from you that had included your indirect discussion of my post.

Fervent said:

I return to my question about the holocaust.

They very much are, because the issue is whether or not what a given society considers moral makes that moral. The example was expressly chosen because it is assumed that it is indisputably immoral, but if morals vary depending on the society cannot be condemned.

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I'm not going to play this game. I've watched this thread for weeks and the seen your repeated attempts to drag @Bradskii through the mud over "murder" and "rape". (The latter the likely source of your rape/evolution comment, but I didn't dig into it.)

Fervent said:

You've presented nothing worth arguing about.

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Your choice *should* be to not reply. The opportunity was right in front of you at the beginning 24 hours ago.

Fervent said:

Yes, I have stated that the criticisms you've lobbed aren't really relevant to the issue that was being addressed. I responded to you because the context of why that paper was even referenced in the first place matters more than the paper itself, especially given the thread topic.

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We can discuss the relationship between evolution and morality (as we have) or not. It is up to you.

Fervent said:

I'm not up on psychologists lingo, so my confusion was more general regarding how "theory" is used.

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It's not really about how "theory" is used but a very important specific concept of "theory of mind" that is central to the psychological understanding of moral interactions, empathy, and social interactions. Frankly it is hard to have a properly informed discussion on the origin of morality if you don't know about it.

Fervent said:

Sure

Sure thing, but such artificial oughts render the whole enterprise suspect.

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Which is exactly why I feel that way about objective and absolute morality.

Truth7t7 said:

The Great Trib Will Be Upon The Antichrist And Wicked, The Church Is Protected, Dont Be Deceived

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If the church were protected on earth during the time of the great tribulation - there would not be the great tribulation martyred saints.

Instead, the church will not be here on earth during the time of the great tribulation. The church will be taken in the resurrection/rapture event before the great tribulation begins.

The great tribulation will try everyone worldwide who will dwell upon the earth during that time.

Revelation 3:
10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

zoidar said:

The underlined is incorrect! Please substantiate with references.

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It's not incorrect. Show me how it's incorrect. The semantic core of ἑλκύω denotes a decisive movement from one position to another. We've already discussed this in another thread. You've seen my argument there. Where is your interaction with it?

I'm not interested in trading barbs. At this point, both of you are arguing for the sake of argument. I've been more than patient in taking the time to read and respond, yet neither of you has addressed the actual arguments I've presented. Instead, you continue deflecting to peripheral issues. Until you engage the substance of my points directly, I will not be responding further.

BNR32FAN said:

Again he just ignored my post about John 12:36.

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In this conversation, I have referred you to posts #35, #75, #91, #93, #100, #118, #119, and #124. You've engaged with none of them, at least not meaningfully. So yes, I'm ignoring you at this point, because you're not here to discuss; you're here to play games. If you actually care about dialogue, start with my comments on the context of John 12 in posts #75, #93, and #100, and interact with the argument. I have repeatedly laid out an argument that answers your understanding of verse 36. Show me where the error lies, or find something better to do with your time. I have no obligation to refute bare assertions, and I won't engage further with posts that show no effort beyond that.

1 John 2:29; 4:7, and 5:1. There's been no answer. (See posts #91, #118)

John 6:44-45. There's been no answer. (See posts #35, #119, #124)

Context of John 12, cf. John 6. There's been no answer. (See posts #75, #93, #100)

That wraps things up.

What goes around comes around.

The misconception of charity, charity is not giving, charity is sharing.

It is not a case of "What`s in it for me", we are blessed in all ways so we can share with others.

Yet another person who is unable to comprehend poetic language.

comana said:

If the economy is so great, why is he floating the idea of stimulus checks?

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Like hitting the nitrous on an already fast car. This is America, bud.

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I heard the Trappist Monks in Spencer MA chant the Apostles Creed in English. It was awesome!

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

The problem with this is that Pesakh can basically be on any day of the week while EO Pascha and Roman Easter is always on a Sunday. Also, since we now know the exact astronomical full moon date and time, the first Sunday after it would simply celebrate the resurrection.

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But Passover and the passion observance and Easter will be the same week for Jewish, the EO and Catholic religions.

Anyway, it's not up to me. Stronger minds than mine are at work over it.

Oompa Loompa said:

Cooperation?

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No, She's just keeping her mouth shut. That's why they put her a cozy place. It's not just Trump, that wants her mouth shut.

Michie said:

At the Basilica of St. John Lateran on Sunday, Pope Leo XIV urged Christians to build the Church on “solid foundations” rooted in Christ rather than on “worldly criteria” that demand immediate results and overlook the value of patience and humility.

Celebrating Mass for the solemnity of the Dedication of the Lateran Basilica — the cathedral of the bishop of Rome and the oldest church in the city — the pope reflected in his homily on the meaning of this feast and on the Church as a living temple built of “living stones.”

“The millennial history of the Church teaches us that with God’s help, a true community of faith can only be built with humility and patience,” he said. “Such a community is capable of spreading charity, promoting mission, proclaiming, celebrating, and serving the apostolic magisterium of which this temple is the first seat.”

The pope drew on the image of the basilica’s physical foundations to speak about the spiritual foundations of the Church. “If the builders had not dug deep enough to find a solid base on which to construct the rest, the entire building would have collapsed long ago,” he said. “As laborers in the living Church, we too must first dig deep within ourselves and around ourselves before we can build impressive structures. We must remove any unstable material that would prevent us from reaching the solid rock of Christ.”


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Pope Leo XIV: Build the Church on the solid foundations of Christ

At the Basilica of St. John Lateran on Sunday, Pope Leo XIV urged Christians to build the Church on “solid foundations” rooted in Christ.

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That's the same message promoted by Bishop Sheen.

It's good that at least some of these people are being held accountable.

Benaiah468 said:

Jesus is coming back to finish the job! He will restore all things, bring the whole earth back under G-d's rule, and fulfil G-d's promise to Abraham.

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Replacing the sons of God, the rebellious elohim that have ruled over the nations since creation

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I Believe In You And Me - Whitney Houston

HIM said:

Be nice? I am being nice. We have the responsibility to share and guide others to the Truth through the Spirit.

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I don't take your comment about how you think I need to "recant" as a form of Christian fellowship. If anything, it's a form of gaslighting parading itself as "prophetic warning."

Again, I'm going to assert that I'm NOT sinning if I, or any other Trinitarian Christian, worships on 'sunday' rather than 'saturday.'

I also don't have the Mark of the Beast if I so decide to worship on Sunday.

I fellow Comrades, I am watching the Great Proletariat Revolution in a Commune far, far away:

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I do believe there are guardian angels. I have seen mine...my grandma several times. While many do not share my viewpoint on this, that is alright with me. It brings me comfort and peace to know she is still around watching out for/and over me.