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RileyG · 2025-11-25T02:18:29-0600

PloverWing said:
I've heard sermons to this effect, but I don't buy it. It weakens the definitions of "god" and "worship" if we just mean "something I value" or "something of very high priority to me".

When I use the word "worship", it includes a sense of the sacred or holy or (to use Rudolf Otto's word) numinous. Financial success might be something a person values and pursues to a fault, but it's hard for me to imagine people seeing money as genuinely numinous. Reddit can be a tremendous time-thief ("Why do you spend your money for that which is not bread?", indeed), but, again, numinous?

By contrast, I think the idols mentioned in the Old Testament really were perceived as embodying spirit-beings, or maybe the numinous aspects of the sun, fertility, the earth, and so on. It's tempting to apply these OT passages to modern activities like shrewd financial investing, but most modern Americans aren't genuine polytheists in the way that the ancients were. They saw gods everywhere. Post-Enlightenment, many Americans see gods nowhere.

Not to go off topic, but did you study theology academically or have an academic degree?

God bless

Stopped_lurking · 2025-11-25T02:10:46-0600

rjs330 said:
Yes there are schools that do.

Perhaps in the US, but Hentenza and I was talking about swedish schools.

Do those schools have physicians on staff then? I would guess the right to prescribe medication is still limited to physicians even in the US.

rjs330 · 2025-11-25T02:07:26-0600

FAITH-IN-HIM said:
Most often MAGA fails to see that the US economy relies on two million immigrants annually.

Then why do we need 20 million illegals?

contratodo · 2025-11-25T01:56:40-0600

Der Alte said:
Malachi 4:3-4 Refers only to a one time event in this world "in that day". It does not refer to eternal punishment

Yes, during the day of the Lord the wicked are consumed away, annihilated. I believe that any due torture would be received in Hades for those who deserve torture, and then Hades itself is thrown into the lake of fire. As shown in my previous post, it is this world that becomes the lake of fire, everything in it consumes away into smoke, only the devil is described as being tormented forever.

And this thing do remember, that one day with the Lord is 1000 years and 1000 years one day. 'The day' of the Lord refers to the 1000 years.
At the beginning of it the armies gathered to fight Christ are reduced to dead burning bodies, and at the end of it, this current land sky and sea are consumed by fire.

Bob Crowley · 2025-11-25T01:47:26-0600

Catholic Church - Christ the King.

RamiC · 2025-11-25T01:42:30-0600

Dan1988 said:
It's one thing to pluck verses of scripture out of their intended context and then apply your unbiblical interpretation to them. You quote "Father forgive them", but you don't tell us who the "them" are so you leave us confused.

What is out of context?

Dan1988 said:
You then go on to quote other verses about what God has revealed to us by His Spirit, but again you give us no clue as to what those things are, leaving us even more confused.

Do you believe people can know things that are revealed by the Holy Spirit or not? You seem to believe that there are things revealed by God to people, while also that if anyone thinks they know those things, that is "witchcraft"?

Dan1988 said:
As you can see, nobody knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. So please stop pretending that you're an exception to the rule.

How am I excempting myself from a rule?

rjs330 · 2025-11-25T01:33:20-0600

Philip_B said:
Have you run out of words yet?

I hope not. His information is very informative.

rjs330 · 2025-11-25T01:28:51-0600

iluvatar5150 said:
If you read my post as claiming that, then it would seem that the other guy wasn’t the only one struggling to comprehend what I understood to be something pretty basic.

I gave up. Since you can't get the idea that if something is more expensive after you were told it would be cheaper then I don't know what to say.

If I was buying a car and the cost was 20 grand and the car salesman told me, I'm going to save you 5 grand in this car, if you just sign this deal. And I did and he handed me a bill for 30 grand, I would know I had just been bamboozled by a used car salesman.

rjs330 · 2025-11-25T01:15:53-0600

FAITH-IN-HIM said:
You mean things have improved today. The media now more frequently criticize the administration, which is appropriate in a democracy.

You mean the media frequently criticizes THIS administration. We saw little of that with Obama and Biden.

FAITH-IN-HIM said:
Members of Congress also speak out and share their views more often than they did 25 years ago.

Do they?

FAITH-IN-HIM said:
I love America! This is the way it should be. Media, citizen, and elected official speak up!

People have always spoken up. What we see today though is the proliferation of something along the lines of, "well, since someone spoke up, it must be a sign that the administration is doing something wrong". Its a ridiculous point of view. As I pointed out just because some speak up it doesn't mean anything is wrong. In fact it very well could mean, the speaker is completely wrong on the subject. Just like they were in WWII.

FAITH-IN-HIM said:
The only un-American and undemocratic act in this story is threatening the lives of those who criticize the administration.

Who threatened the lives of anyone. Surely you aren't referring to the president are you? I don't recall him saying he was going to kill anyone.

He was rightfully ticked off for the Democrats pulling such a stupid stunt. Intimating illegal orders are being given. But I dont recall him saying he was going to kill them for it.

Hans Blaster · 2025-11-25T01:15:43-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
You realize you're actually kind of proving his point for him right? (about the toxic purification process)

This is what you think. It isn't about "purification".

ThatRobGuy said:
(I've heard people on the left souring on Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian recently too)

Are they still around? I haven't heard from them in years.

ThatRobGuy said:
Any particular reason you think he's a joke?

Every time I read some comment from him it is some bad take. No particular item, jut a cumulative impact on my memory. I can't say I've ever read any of his stuff and apparently he has a podcast I've never heard.d

ThatRobGuy said:
He's dedicated the last 20+ years to doing solid journalism and writing that came from a progressive perspective, and was highly praised by the left,

and I only heard of him in the last few years. Writes for some rag.

ThatRobGuy said:
but then a lot of them turned on him because of how he responded to the Charlie Kirk shooting.

I saw this claim, so I googled it. I understand why though. Klein's column completely didn't understand who Kirk was and praised him for having "debates" with students.

ThatRobGuy said:
Basically, because Ezra opted to not stick the boot in while the body was still warm, people on the left turned on him.

The best time to criticize awful people is when the are alive. When they are newly dead is the second best time. Unlike a lot of people I hang with, I am not obsessed with Dick Cheney, so I didn't go after him this week. I just didn't care. Kirk was an awful person. He didn't deserve to die, but he didn't deserve praise either.

ThatRobGuy said:
They turned on Glen Greenwald (for holding a contrary viewpoint on Ukraine) as well.

First time I ever heard of GG he was messing up his reporter's opsec so badly he helped some naive young woman 5 years in the clink for leaking secrets. Then there is his involvement in the Snowdon/Assange operation.

ThatRobGuy said:
However, if you have a different reason why Ezra no longer passes progressive muster, I'm all ears.

The fact that any of those guys would be considered "persona non grata" within the Democratic movements baffles me.

I just think he is a joke with bad takes.

GodAndChocolateVanilla · 2025-11-25T01:14:10-0600

And I love Typography Art!! ^w^ =3

Isaac the Recluse · 2025-11-25T00:45:24-0600

Cheeseburgers have a nice tang.

EESEB

Gene2memE · 2025-11-25T00:41:49-0600

Landon Caeli said:
Do you think that it matters in the reality of the world, which nations participate in that?

No, but it matters for that graph. It's measuring poverty rates between OECD peers. That's only capable because they have an agreement that ensures there is data sharing on a like for like basis.

Landon Caeli said:
The comment was made that socialistic economies are better for the poor than capitalist ones, while excluding a huge number of countries in the data set. That's not useful.

No, the comment was that "democratic socialist" countries populate the low end of child poverty rates.

Democratic socialist is a subset of socalist countries.

They - generally speaking - combine democratic representative governments with substantial state involvement in the economy with universal social safety nets. Typical features include state-owned monopoly corporations which act according to a charter rather than purely financial considerations, some form of state-led economic planning and strong regulatory controls, particularly around labour.

Some may seek socialist reformation of the economy, while others are more concerned with market socialism as a way to curb the 'race to the bottom' excesses of unregulated capitalism. Generally that's a social democracy vs democratic socialism distinction, but time and popular usage has blurred those lines.

another_lost_guy · 2025-11-25T00:14:51-0600

I never had a girlfriend in my 22 years of life until I met the love of my life in 2024. She passed away earlier this year. She wasn't perfect but was closer to it than anyone I've ever met. Witty, innocent, gorgeous, thoughtful, forgiving, the whole 9 yards. We were waiting until marriage to have sex, both of us were virgins. She told me she didn't know what she would do if I died first, and that she would probably become a nun. I told her I would never remarry if anything were to happen to her. We didn't get a chance to get married to begin with, but sure enough, something did happen to her. I intend to honor the spirit of what I promised, I know there is no Biblical obligation, but I find it to be romantic to do so. But it has been and will be difficult for me. It's been 6 months since she passed now. I don't know why the Lord took her from this earth so early. She was just 19. I know that there's no marriage in heaven, but I really want to see her again. Without getting too graphic, we were not 100% innocent. We never had sex, but we definitely had very intimate moments together. Have I already defiled the marriage bed with her? Were/are we one flesh? Does that even matter when it comes to seeing her again? How can I find the resolve to honor what I promised to her? I don't mean to spark any played-out gender war nonsense but I am generally unimpressed with the American dating pool. I'm not necessarily longing for another woman, but I always envisioned myself having a family one day. Has anybody else been in a similar situation?

Servus · 2025-11-25T00:12:30-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Which 'certain libs' do you assert are triggered?

Those who would get triggered by the presence of that group at Disneyland. What do you want, names and adresses? If there's none who will be triggered by it, then it's a moot issue.

rambot · 2025-11-25T00:01:00-0600

BPPLEE said:
Why is it okay to copy and paste some article from a source that leans left, or right but it's not okay to use AI?

Because you don't know what source the AI got it from. How do you know hte AI source is good?

This should be basic stuff here.

BPPLEE said:
Either way is dialing it in but I don't see anyone complaining about copy and paste jobs as long as a source is given

Yes. Because. source is given.

AI is not a source. AI is like a slave that finds you the information that it wants on the topic you ask it to. But it doesn't tell you where it found it all. So. The slave is not the source; where the slave gets it; that's the source.

It should not be a hidden trinket of knowledge to understand that knowing the source of information is going to add legitimacy to a piece of information.

durangodawood · 2025-11-24T23:51:42-0600

RDKirk said:
Nobody will be charged under the AI overview.

Not yet.....

christianlloydteegardin · 2025-11-24T23:23:17-0600

timothyu said:
Understood. We sometimes assume things are not what they are.

The Devil loves it when we assume things are neutral when they're not.

Belk · 2025-11-24T23:15:29-0600

essentialsaltes said:
‘She’s Trying to Take Down Trump’: Laura Loomer Slams ‘Despicable Traitor’ MTG for Joining Epstein Files Push
Far-right provocateur Laura Loomer is going scorched earth on Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), accusing the congresswoman of betraying Donald Trump by joining a bipartisan push to unseal the long-buried files of Jeffrey Epstein

“There’s become two Americas,” Greene said during the press conference. “There’s the America for the rich and the powerful and the elite—where they never face any struggles or problems… And then there’s forgotten America that faces all the problems and deals with all the issues and never gets justice for being sexually assaulted and raped by a monster.”

“This isn’t one political party or the other,” she added. “It’s a culmination of everyone [who] worked together to silence these women and protect Jeffrey Epstein and his cabal.”

Greene later revealed on Real America’s Voice that she had received “a lot of pushback” from Trump’s orbit for supporting the petition—but stopped short of blaming Trump himself.

Will the true protectors of Donald Trump please stand up? Is it the group trying to hide the files or the group trying to expose the files?

Isn't this admitting that Trump will be damaged by the release of the files?

RDKirk · 2025-11-24T23:07:59-0600

stevevw said:
Who ever has to mention him every day and be completely consumed with him lol.

Are you kidding. The ABC is like the BBC lol. I would not trust them at all. Another State controlled media who push a partisan narrative.

The statue was real, and not reported only by ABC.

GodDoesListen55 · 2025-11-24T23:00:09-0600

Both.

Adidas or Nike?

Guojing · 2025-11-24T22:30:19-0600

Spiritual Jew said:
@Douggg doesn't seem to understand that you do believe that works are required for salvation in what you call "the gospel of the kingdom" that you think is only for the Jews. Can you explain your belief in two gospels to him so that he doesn't waste his time trying to defend you just because he doesn't understand what you believe?

I guess you won't agree, even when I point out the logical form of your reasoning, that you are saying works are necessary for salvation?

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