• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

RFK Adjusts Hepatitis B Vaccine Recommendations; Democrats Lose Their Minds

As opposed to your open-mindedness... :rolleyes:
Yes. :oldthumbsup:
But OK then. Nice talking to you!
:wave:
Perhaps your eyesight is failing you. There is source listed right on the image. It's a bar chart showing the number of VAERS reports over the years. If you don't trust the chart, you can query CDC Wonder yourself to verify. :rolleyes:
Thanks - I do have a hard time seeing pale gray letters on a white ground, but magnifying the image helps. The source is OpenVAERS.com. What is that and who runs it?

OpenVAERS is a project developed by a small team of people with vaccine injuries or who have children with vaccine injuries.​

OpenVAERS, a site set up in early 2021 to spread vaccine misinformation by misusing federal data, is being operated by Liz Willner, 55, who lives in the wealthy enclave of Piedmont, a community completely surrounded by Oakland, California, according to new research conducted by AI-powered misinformation tracking group Logically, and shared exclusively with VICE News....

...By presenting unverified data as fact, OpenVAERS has become one of the most powerful tools in the anti-vaxxer community. For example, the site on Thursday declared that over 12,000 people had died as a result of taking a COVID-19 vaccine. While that many deaths may have been reported to VAERS, the figure is completely unverified and proves no connection between the vaccine and the subsequent fatalities.​


Thanks for this handy tool. I had been unaware of it.
Upvote 0

Democrats flip Miami mayor’s office, winning control for first time in nearly 30 years

Great, another American city will now turn into a hotbed of illegal drug activity, crime, and debauchery. I give it a week before communist Cuban flags are flying everywhere and Spanish in spoken openly in the streets and shops. Good job Democrats.
Shows you what perseverance can do.
Upvote 0

Archbishop performs rite of reparation at Annunciation Catholic Church after shooting

Three months after a deadly shooting in Minneapolis that left two students dead and injured 18 others as well as three adults, Archbishop Bernard Hebda, along with Auxiliary Bishops Kevin Kenney and Michael Izen, said a special Mass at Annunciation Catholic Church on Dec. 6 that included a rite of reparation to restore the church for worship.

On Aug. 27, Robin Westman — who was born “Robert” and identified as a woman –shot through the stained glass windowsof the church during a morning Mass filled with Annunciation school students in first through eighth grade, killing Fletcher Merkel, eight, and Harper Moyski, 10.

Westman, who had posted anti-Christian and explicit messages on social media before the attack, then killed himself at the scene.

"Our Blessed Mother lived this faith and cooperated with God's plan for her life, despite the difficulties it would occasion,” Hebda prayed outside the building just before the Dec. 6 Mass. “We profess that our souls now will rejoin hers in proclaiming the greatness of the Lord in this church, dedicated in her honor, and now reclaimed for the glory of God."

Continued below.

Pope says Trump Ukraine plan would weaken U.S. alliance with Europe

Pope Leo XIV said President Donald Trump’s plan to end Russia’s war against Ukraine threatens to break apart the alliance between Europe and the United States.

Asked by reporters Dec. 9 to comment on the initiative's fairness, the pope said, “I would rather not comment on that. I haven’t read the whole thing. Unfortunately, some parts I have seen make a huge change in what was for many years a true alliance between the EU and U.S.”

The pope commented to reporters after meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at Castel Gandolfo.

Pope Leo said, “The remarks [by Trump] that were made about Europe recently are, I think, trying to break apart what I think is an important alliance today and in the future. It’s a program that President Trump and his advisers put together, and he’s the president of the U.S. And he has a right to do that.”

Continued below.

Can a young child become a Christian?

I’ll be happy to address this in just a bit. I’m in transit right now.

In the meantime I have a Question for you.

How does a four month old repent?
A four month old has nothing to repent from.

They do however, come into the world with a fallen nature. And their parents have spiritual authority over them, do they not?
Upvote 0

Dear Pete Hegseth, I’m Grateful the Japanese Navy Spared My Grandfather’s Life

What else was it? You don't fool anyone. Don't kid yourself, for heaven's sake.

No, you dance around it. You've been saying that due process should be followed on US soil. That it's the FBI that has to break down doors and use those handcuffs. Except now, at last, we get you saying exactly what you'd prefer. That all this bulldust about that due process is just that. Bulldust. Kill them. And to blazes with due process. Because hey, it's cheaper and easier.

Because not many people, including you, want to admit what you've now admitted. People have to be poked and prodded. People have to be prompted. But eventually the desire to speak your mind becomes too great. We 'getcha' to tell us what you really want eventually.
I have not danced around anything. You just refuse to read what I actually stated. You call it "poking" but it is actually harassment. Would i prefer them to be blown up in the water? Yes! But did I ever suggest they should not receive due process if on US soil? Absolutely not.
Upvote 0

There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

Just like the images I gave of clear machine like cuts which were ignored. I gave plenty of examples of melted and softened stone that was clearly not the result of anything natural or from some accidental lightening strike.
I asked about vitrification. Why shift the subject?
Upvote 0

Did angels really carry the Holy House of Mary to Loreto, Italy?

What do Galileo, Mozart, Descartes, Cervantes, and St. Thérèse of Lisieux have in common? They all traveled hundreds of miles to step inside the Virgin Mary’s house, which is preserved inside a basilica in the small Italian town of Loreto.

Catholic pilgrims have flocked to the Holy House of Loreto since the 14th century to stand inside the walls where tradition holds the Virgin Mary was born, raised, and greeted by the angel Gabriel.

In other words, if it is actually the house of Nazareth, it is where the “Word became flesh” at the Annunciation, a point on which the history of humanity turned.

There is an often-repeated story that angels carried the Holy House from Palestine to Italy and while modern listeners may doubt the legend’s veracity, historic documents have vindicated the beliefs of pious pilgrims over the centuries — with an ironic twist.

Tradition holds that the Holy House arrived in Loreto on Dec. 10, 1294, after a miraculous rescue from the Holy Land as the Crusaders were driven out of Palestine at the end of the 13th century.

Continued below.

Disability advocates sue Delaware over allegedly ‘discriminatory’ assisted suicide law

Several disability and patient advocacy groups filed a lawsuit in the U.S. District Court in Delaware on Dec. 8 alleging that Delaware’s new physician-assisted suicide law discriminates against people with disabilities.

In May 2025, Delaware passed a bill legalizing physician-assisted suicide for terminally ill adults with a prognosis of six months or less to live. The law, which goes into effect Jan. 1, 2026, allows patients to self-administer lethal medication.

The 74-page complaint alleges that the new law is unconstitutional under both Delaware and federal law and violates the Americans with Disabilities Act as well as the Fourteenth Amendment’s Equal Protection Clause, among other challenges.

Plaintiffs include the Institute for Patients’ Rights; The Freedom Center for Independent Living, Inc., in Middletown; the Delaware chapter of ADAPT; Not Dead Yet; United Spinal Association, the National Council on Independent Living; and disability advocate Sean Curran.

The lawsuit, which names Gov. Matthew Meyer and the Delaware Department of Health and Human Services as two of several defendants, said that “people with life-threatening disabilities” are at “imminent risk” because of Delaware's new law.

Continued below.

‘Persecuted and thriving’: Catholic priest on resilience of Christians in Nigeria

Christians in Nigeria continue to demonstrate resilience and vitality amid violent assaults by extremist groups such as Boko Haram, a priest from the West African country has said.

In a recent interview with Christian Peschken of EWTN Germany, CNA’s news partner, Father Maurice Emelu, now a U.S. citizen and founder of Gratia Vobis Ministries, describes the extraordinary ability of faith in Nigeria to blossom “in harsh soil.”

“In Nigeria, faith grows in the very places where life tries to break it. Our people are not romanticizing pain; they are discovering Christ in it,” Emelu said. “The Church thrives not because our challenges are small but because grace is stubborn. Grace has a way of blooming in harsh soil.”

In an attempt to describe the persecution of Christians in Nigeria, he said, “Suffering here has a face… Violence and killings happen with such astonishing frequency that one feels it isn’t real. People tell me many killings never even reach the media. The pain is simply unbearable.”

Continued below.

Will you let the bible ...

Why conjure the severe (or severest scenarios) to apply? None of us really can travel to a black hole, it is really more possible that a black hole would be traveling toward us. If so we could not escape. And from what is known with physics we could not survive that. Modern depictions of hell that I find from anyone are not what I would speak of as being reality. Fair judgment could be applied to all, of humans. Everyone would be without excuse for not looking, earlier people are included, There must be some from earlier times that we who would be saved will find have been saved too. The difference since the gospel of Christ has been revealed is that its message is available and being spread, for much more opportunity to all those reached to respond, along with all that is made known of Christ provided to them. Earlier individuals might have only responded for themselves without a message from them that would have others more likely to come to that than they already were. Abraham would have been pretty unique with effectively spreading faith of the one true God who should be trusted. A few others who were earlier were shown doing that too, still.

With fairness of justice in judgment from God it would be fairly applied to those apart from deliverance in Christ, who bore all of what is needed for any who come to him, that they are covered in him. As God he could bear all of that, which no mere human could do, so that deliverance is available. Conjuring the most extreme sentences imagined for others would not dispense the fairness in judgment that God can and will apply to any that remain apart from the deliverance provided. The fairness amounts to the different degrees any will suffer throughout the afterlife they come to, when there is the judgment for them, that will be with fair justice to them, for each.
Who knows, indeed? We can only speculate based on the paltry number of verses in the Bible. I, for one, hardly wish this fate on anyone, even the vilest person living. You did pose the apparent conundrum of an eternal fate of being in an outer darkness as well as in a lake of fire. The God of the universe is quite capable of doing anything, I believe, and to transport a soul to one of the vast number of black holes is hardly beyond His power. The only object in the universe of which I am aware which is intensely and infinitely dark, as well as incalculably hot at the same time is a black hole. Apart from His mercy and grace in Jesus Christ, we have no hope at all.
Upvote 0

Pew study: Religion holds steady in America

The number of American adults who identify with Christianity, with another religion, or with no religion have all remained steady, a new Pew Research Center report finds.

Surveys conducted since 2020 have generally found that about 70% of U.S. adults identify with a religion. The numbers have slightly fluctuated, but there has been no clear rise or fall in religious affiliation over the five-year period.

A Pew Research Center study, Religion Holds Steady in America, summarizes the latest trends in American religion and examines religion among young adults. The report is based on Pew’s National Public Opinion Reference Survey(NPORS), which has annually surveyed a random sample of U.S. adults since 2020. It also draws from the U.S. Religious Landscape Study (RLS), which surveyed 36,908 adults from July 17, 2023 to March 4, 2024.

The report also uses data from the General Social Survey and the American Time Use Survey.

The research revealed that after Pew found a decline in Christianity in the country from 2007 to 2020, the decline has halted and there is a stable presence of Christianty and religion in the nation.

Young women’s religiosity shifts​


Continued below.

Trump Says US Will Permanently Pause Migration From 'Third World Countries'

And anytime a person is arrested they go into the data bank / their fingerprint, their age, their address, their name, their nationality and whether they are illegal or not. All over the USA and today with computers it is easy to keep up with.
No they are not. The fact they are illegal or legal is not entered, unless the jurisdiction actually asks and the person is honest. The peraon could lie and the jurisdiction does not collect their birth certificate.
No I am not saying illegals should be allowed to come here, you can assume that if you like
Then what was the point of saying Americans commit crime? It seems like you were arguing that it is no argument to say we shouldn't allow illegals in because they commit crime. I don't get your point then.
I didn't say illegals were supposed to get aid and wasn't saying that citizens shouldn't be at the top of the list.
Then why mention it?
I believe I indicated this if not I'm saying it directly the majority of the US citizens think that those type of jobs is too low, to menial for them and will not do it. Jobs that the slaves did what did Trump call certain jobs /Black jobs.
Again what is your point in pointing out illegals do these jobs? How do you know Americans won't do them? Maybe Americans wont do them for the wages illegals will? If we get rid of the illegals maybe they would have to raise the wages to get Americans. Or at least the legal immigrants. It might actually force Congress to pass immigration reforms to allow legals in to work those jobs specifically.
Forcing, funny how people who don't believe in scripture always use the word forcing, who have I forced to do anything. Churches Don't Force anyone to do anything they speak of what's written in scripture do all people follow it no, most people mess up and mess up big.
You were the one preaching how we as a country should follow scriptures. But I wonder if you really believe that or if its actually political for you. Because what I have found is so many who claim we should be taking in and helping people who cross our borders and want to use scripture as an admonition to do so, only want to use it for that purpose. They are not using scripture to support outlawing things that scripture says we shouldn't be doing.

You either want the governemnt to follow scriptural admonition on all things or you should keep it to yourself. The Bible is not a club only to be used for your pet political positions.

It is not a treatise for how government should operate. It was written to teach Chriatians how they ought to be in their personal lives and for how the church itself ought to govern itself.
Actually in a court of law lying is out lawed - line to the feds is outlawed. Lying to cops you can get fined.
According to scripture we are not supposed to lie to anyone. Do you think we ought to follow scripture and ask government for laws against all lying.
Homosexuality at one point was outlawed not that long ago, funny how you use this, why not outlaw cheating / why not outlaw adultery / why not outlaw disrespect for your parents / why not outlaw disrespect for your neighbors / which are other things that Bible speaks against but you chose homosexuality.
I used that to prove a point. That often those who want to use scripture for certain things are often politically motivated to do so and not really interested in being consistent. And homosexuality is a quick way to determine where they really are. In the past I have used adultery as an example as well. Don't get hung up on the fact I didn't list every sinful act. My point is bigger than that.

To be clear, when it comes to asking, wanting or supporting the governement in following a scriptural standard, then we should not use it only for certain things we want, but should use ALL of scripture and not just the pet ones we like. That goes for all of us. If I am going to say that we should outlaw homosexuality because the Bible says its bad, then I should also support big government welfare taking care of all poor. We either accept all of scripture being followed by government or none of it. Picking and choosing is political and hypocritical.
Upvote 0

Rep. Jasmine Crockett’s pastor, Frederick Haynes, launches bid to fill her congressional seat

Rev. Frederick Douglass Haynes III, senior pastor of the 13,000-member Friendship-West Baptist Church in Dallas, Texas, who counts Rep. Jasmine Crockett, D-Texas, among his flock, launched a bid to fill her District 30 congressional seat Monday after she formally announced her run for the U.S. Senate on the same day.

The announcements from both Haynes and Crockett came just a day after he delivered a politically charged sermoncritical of President Donald Trump and the U.S. Supreme Court, with Crockett in the audience. He would later pray for Crockett, asking God to protect her and give her courage.

“She's Jasmine putting injustice in jeopardy. She's Jasmine. She's cool. She's calm, collected, and a Crockett,” Haynes told his church as he claimed the 44-year-old staunch liberal politician is “the nation’s congresswoman.”

Continued below.

A look at how world’s 5 Communist countries are cracking down on Christians: report

Governments in the world’s five remaining Communist countries are intensifying control over Christian churches, according to an analysis by a persecution watchdog, which says churches are facing growing legal, financial and operational restrictions under regimes in China, Cuba, Laos, North Korea and Vietnam.

Authorities in China require churches to register with the state and operate under a system called Sinicization, which mandates that sermons and practices incorporate Chinese cultural elements and Communist Party ideology, according to an analysis by the U.S.-based group International Christian Concern.

Churches in China must also submit to financial audits by government officials and disclose all sources and uses of funding, it adds.

A 2022 regulation known as the Measures for the Financial Management of Venues for Religious Activities empowers Chinese religious affairs departments to inspect and audit church assets, the report explains. Article 43 of the regulation states that relevant government departments may conduct inspections of religious activity sites, it points out.

Continued below.
  • Informative
Reactions: Pioneer3mm

Filter

Forum statistics

Threads
5,879,512
Messages
65,434,945
Members
276,443
Latest member
tigerfox