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Meet the 7 saints Pope Leo XIV will canonize on Oct. 19

One of the new saints is St. Peter ToRot, who was martyred by the Japanese during World War II


Two ladies from our church went to PNG or Rome (I'm not sure which) to watch the ceremony in some form as they were originally from PNG.
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Christian parents take Sweden to top European court after separation from daughters

Two Christian parents have taken their case against Sweden to the European Court of Human Rights after being separated from their two eldest daughters for more than two years. The couple says the Swedish child protection system wrongfully removed their children and violated their parental rights.

Daniel and Bianca Samson, Romanian citizens who had lived in Sweden for nearly a decade, filed the case this week, according to the human rights group ADF International, which is supporting their case and contends that it raises "serious concerns" about delays, overreach and possible discrimination against Christians in Sweden’s child welfare system.

The parents say their daughters, ages 10 and 11 at the time, were taken by Swedish social services in December 2022 after one of them falsely reported abuse at school. The child later withdrew the claim, but authorities refused to return the girls.

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Sidebar Political Question: Where to Discuss Energy Tech.

They start at expensive and go up. Even banks of lead acid batteries are expensive, but at least in a fixed location weight isn't a big problem. But lead acid batteries have to be changed out about as regularly as you change out a car battery, and this application calls for deep discharge batteries, like marine batteries.

Battery storage is expensive enough that standby generators tend not to use them. They come on and burn fuel as long as grid power is out. But if you size it for peak demand, then on the low demand end it uses more fuel than perhaps is needed. The result is that, after a natural disaster, you can run up an eye popping fuel bill pretty quickly.

Example: A propane powered standby generator sized for a residence can use 2 to 4 US gallons of propane per hour, depending on the load. Let's call it 2.75 and assume most of the time it's not peak demand. Power is out for a week. That's 168 hours. 168 x 2.75 = 462 gallons. At $3 a gallon, that's $1,386. But something fun: Fuel companies only fill propane tanks from 80% to 85% capacity to allow for gas expansion. Once saw a over-filled tobacco barn propane tank overpressure valve vent, so it does happen. So a 500 gallon tank only holds 400 gallons. Oops. So we're talking less than a week of power unless the propane company can make a delivery, which is iffy in a natural disaster. A 1,000 gallon tank would be good for about 290 hours at 2.75 gallons per hour, and that's 12 days. Post-Helene, it was 16 days before we got all the lines back on, though most had power restored in a week. If someone had run a backup generator the entire time, that's 1,056 gallons of propane and a $3,168 bill for the propane alone.

This gets into how often a Helene scale event happens and how long you're willing to be without power. Have seen ice storms knock out power for days, so it isn't always a hurricane. Bottom line is that if you have to replace batteries several times on the average before a long duration event, it might be cheaper to pay through the nose for fuel.

That's assuming you're allowed to have fuel in the first place. That's straight-up politics, but can see that happening.

I lost power in an ice storm once for an entire month, that was the worst outage I was ever in.

There's benefits to losing power in winter, one is that you don't lose all the food you just freeze it outside, instead of inside. (Yes, that's the sound of me dragging the deepfreeze outside in an ice storm... Lol)

It's the water pipes that are a problem in winter, but there's more than one way to skin a cat. (This is a reference to skinning catfish, not kittens, it's actually difficult to remove the skin from the fish and there's many techniques, everyone has their own ideas for the best way)

If you are somewhere where a wood burning stove is an option for the home, you can use a wood stove as backup heat in a winter power outage.

That will heat the home beautifully and no pipes will freeze. You can sell the wood stash periodically and replace with fresher as needed, so it's not an expense beyond the store and the wood.

What electric is needed for in a winter situation with wood heat backup is then greatly reduced, and so is any need for generator fuel, since your essentially just wanting to keep the refrigerator running and the kitchen stove and coffee pot accessible, and the laptop charged for a little movie entertainment.

For light we use kerosene lanterns in power outages, I have them for every room.

This is far less costly than trying to run an entire house on backup generator power in the winter.

I think where you live, where and when the outages are most likely to be and how often they might hit are all things to factor in, and for every individual in each location the answers and the needs are potentially very different.
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Morality without Absolute Morality

It never gave me any "gifts".
His preferred pronoun is "He"; not "it".

The Holy Spirit's gifts are given but one must accept the gift to actuate its effects.

Other gifts include knowledge, wisdom and understanding. The fruit of "joy" follows. The pagan Aristotle knew as much, "Now what is characteristic of any nature is that which is best for it and gives most joy. Such to man is the life according to reason, since it is that which makes him man."

For the Christian, nothing gives more joy than to use the Holy Spirit's gifts to defend our beliefs against the worldly non-believers. John 15:18.
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Russell Brand prays in Jesus' name at TPUSA event: 'There's a revival happening'

Comedian and actor Russell Brand closed out his appearance at a Turning Point USA event in Oklahoma on Thursday by praying in the name of Jesus, noting he found God through pain and that he believes revival is happening.

"Lord, I would ask for divine inspiration, I would ask for new conversations that pursue the lines that Charlie Kirk was pursuing in earnest, open discourse; love," Brand prayed in a packed auditorium of thousands at Oklahoma State University in Stillwater.

The late Charlie Kirk was scheduled to speak there on his college tour before he was assassinated at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah, on Sept. 10.

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The Receptive Pulpit of Tongues

Too many preaching the love of money, politics and spheres of influence. But revival and a wave of God comes though humility first. Maga for instance likely will fail, but that actually could be God's will to humble his people. To give more compassion and care to others, to re-engage kindness and politeness and to focus more on doing the gospel. God bless!
Not off topic, as an un-willing spirit has surfaced to resist God's structure of ''boundaries'' he established (Acts 17:26).
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Women Warriors for Life

Of all the many dark centuries in the history of Christendom, there is no denying that the 20th century was one of the darkest. It was also the deadliest. In terms of the sheer body count, the last century, with its wars of irreligion, fought with industrialized weapons of mass destruction, was the most murderous in human history—and among the most tyrannous. New secular fundamentalist ideologies, such as communism and Nazism, ushered in a culture of death in which millions perished on the altar of “political correctness.”

prayer room in Vatican

No, the Vatican is not opening a general prayer room for Muslims, though the Vatican Library has opened a prayer room specifically for its Muslim scholars. This prayer room is intended for scholarly use and reflects the Vatican's efforts to accommodate Muslim academics who visit for research, not to provide a public place of worship for all Muslims
don't be mislead , any intrusion from the Muslim faith is an open invitation for Satan to come in , Muslims shouldn't be allowed on the grounds . just one more step of many along the long path of the falling off the Gospel wagon
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To Ponder Jesus, Listen Like Mary Did

[Jesus] went down with [Joseph and Mary] and came to Nazareth, and was obedient to them; and his mother kept all these things in her heart. (Luke 2:51)

Any Old School Holiness Pentecostals?

The terms Holiness Pentecostal, or Holiness Church, aren't used here in Australia, to my knowledge. I think those in Pentecostal churches here would assume that holiness, however you might define it, goes hand in hand with the beliefs associated with Pentecostalism (or "churchianity" in general) in any case, so adding the name Holiness to Pentecostal, or Church, would be superfluous.
so sorry you are mis informed, i assume you are catholic?
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The Both And of Immigration

The Catholic Church’s answer to the world’ binary questions often tend to be “both and” rather than “either or.” We believe in scripture and tradition, faith and reason. We believe Jesus is God and man. God offers us mercy and justice. Sacraments are symbols and they convey the actual Grace they symbolize.

A Christian response to "No Kings."

As a Christian standing on the sidelines I find it interesting and amusing.

The ongoing fixation on one man. First he was a fascist and Nazi and everything else under the sun. Now he's a King lol. What next Willy Wonka. Actually thats probably not a bad description lol.

In some ways it is the people who are fixated that are making him a King. They keep saying it until they believe it. They dedicate time and effort to make it an issue in their life that it controls their thinking.

If they spent as much time making Christ King and proclaiming His truth in the streets we would be better off.
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Mississippi School Homecoming Celebrations Turn Deadly as 8 People are Killed 20 Injured in Separate Shootings

Hasty generalization fallacy.



Stephen is anti-Islam. Islam is a religion not a race.

Don’t know much about Anthony, but I could only find anti-immigration statements. No statements specifically about race.

To quote another member here: “Words have meanings.”



Again, the hasty generalization fallacy.
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Oh, do not destroy his little racism world where the evil caucasian is the cause of the worlds problems.
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Is 'once saved always saved' a biblical teaching?

And you will provide a verse that we are Born of WATER. is a persons PHYSICAL. BIRTH. ?? REALLY. ??

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Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?”
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That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
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How do we set aside the grace of God?

I do believe that I have always stated that once we get to the point of eternal life we must do works to stay in the spirit to live physically. We also must obey the 2 commandments of:

1 John 3:23 This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us. 24 The one who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. We know by this that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. NASU

I don't know how many times I posted the above. Maybe I wasn't too clear about what to do in the tribulation. When I say we must stand in Jesus, I meant we must always continue to believe in Him. That, to me, means we do not take the mark of the beast.

John 15:4 "I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing. 6 "If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire and they are burned. NASU

John 13:34 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another. 35 "By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another." NASU


Above are the 2 commandments we are to keep as Jesus stated them in the gospel of John.
What about the greatest commandments to love God with all our heart, mind and soul? Jesus said there are no greater commandments than these. Mark 12:29-31 What about all the other commandments Jesus spoke of and kept during His time on earth telling us not to break the least of these commandments Mat5:19-30 Mat 15:3-14 Mark7:7-13 Mat19:17-19 etc Mat12:12 Mat4:4. I am not familiar with the verses that says one teaching of Jesus deletes another one.

Salvation is not by keeping any laws, God's laws are kept (His version) as a result of salvation, abiding in Him, not a means to it. However on the flip side, no one is saved in their sins Heb10:26-30 We need a conversion in Christ leaving our old sinful way behind through love and His power John 14:15-18, walking as He did, for our example. 1 Peter 2:21-22 1John2:6
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About one-world government and the future of this world

Yep - Governed & led by the Antichrist for seven years until the return of Jesus.
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That will be Paul's man of sin also known as the beast from the sea or in Daniel the king of the north and not the antichrist.

The antichrist (beast from the land) brings worship to the (image) of the man of sin/beast from the sea/king of the north.

Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon. And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived. He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
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Why do people hate ICE...

130 of those 170 were arrested for obstructing or assault. Not for being suspected illegals.

It sounds like 50 of those arrested were released without charges.

There was a recent court case ordering agents to use body cams. I'm highly in favor of that.

But basically Americans are rarely being detained as illegals. Even 20 of the Americans picked up were kids who were with illegal parents. Which is a LEGITIMATE AND LEGAL thing to do.

So all total, there have been 20 American adults picked up in ICE raids on illegals. Pretty miniscule. And under the circumstances understandable.

That's being used as a pretext.
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These cases have often wilted under scrutiny. In nearly 50 instances that we have identified so far, charges have never been filed or the cases were dismissed. Our count found a handful of citizens have pleaded guilty, mostly to misdemeanors.
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I've been anointed by God to send the one True Word! I would love some feedback and discussion!

Not sure I understand here, you're saying a person must believe in Jesus for Eternal Life but also that he didnt say to accept him?
Either way, I can tell you that the second part of what you quoted, is not referring to Heaven - but that a person shall live , if they believe in him , even through any struggle.
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I would suggest reading The Gospel of John (carefully), as this book of The Bible was specifically written to tell people how to have life (eternal life).

And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.

In The Gospel of John it is stated again and again to believe in Jesus for Eternal Life

And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
“He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

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Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.


Saying accept Jesus as Lord and savior is church talk and is not from The Bible.
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Twenty-Ninth Sunday in Ordinary Time (Year C)






Don Trump Tilts at Windmills: Rescinds All Offshore Wind Energy Areas in the US; current leases up for review

Diesel can go "bad" over time. Seriously. Diesel motors require surprising levels of maintenance. When we ran great big diesel generators the size of semi-trailers until natural gas peaking stations came online, we'd have to do maintenance fairly often based on hours of use. The same for standby generators. Propane is less energy dense than diesel, but doesn't go "bad" just sitting there. It burns cleaner and that leads to less maintenance. That's why it's popular for home standby generators here.

Now, on a farm, where diesel is going to be used for tractors, it's not going to sit around long enough to go "bad." Connecting a generator to a PTO means that the required maintenance is already being done, so that's a different situation than a standby generator.
True, I forgot that diesel as a car fuel is uncommon in the US. There are petrol generators available, I guess?
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Weekly homilies

Monday, October 20 2025

29th OT



Rm 4:20-25

"Abraham gave glory to God and was fully convinced that what he had promised."



Jesus accomplished everything. God accomplishes everything with Love.



Lk 12:13-21

Ah, the wisdom of God!

Jesus said, "The things you have prepared, to whom will they belong?"



Our spring cleaning. And it would also be interesting to cleanse our thoughts and entrust to the Lord everything that is negative, then rejoice in what is wise.



Biblical texts: NAB-RE

Normand Thomas.
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