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Historic Premillennialism vs Amillennialism

You left out that prophey is given in riddles (Nu 12:6-8), not clearly and subject to more than one interpretation,
the only rule being that all interpretation must be in agreement with NT apostolic teaching (1 Th 4:16-17) of Christ (Lk 10:16),
which dispensationalism is not.
The riddles invites the listener to engage with the message more deeply. For those open to his words, the parables encourages to seek the hidden meaning, ask questions, and come to a personal understanding that are found scattered about in scripture.
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No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

Acts 17:26-31 clearly states the God structured things so that man can and should seek Him, and that He wants all to repent.
Sure, in our minds we want to seek God but our hearts always fall short of doing it. As Paul said in Romans 7 " the good I wanted to do I don't do, but the evil I don't want to do this I keep on doing it"..
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Texas will require public school classrooms to display Ten Commandments under bill nearing passage

A hypothetical made by the Judge in the decision:

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The separation of church and state is one of the things that let this little experiment of a democratically elected republic work. That along as with what the judge said about the majority not having special rights to trample over the minority. Those principles along with the principles of separation of powers those Puritans came to establish in the states are being stress tested right now. Hopefully, it still works out as intended.
They would at least have avoided the trap that those advocating posting of the "Ten Commandments" are heading for.

No Muslim kid needs to embarrass the teacher by asking, "How come those commandments aren't the same as the ones we learn at the mosque?" Because they are the same. But there will be a lot of Christian kids asking that same question of their teachers if the Texas version of the commandments gets posted and as far as I can tell the teachers will have no credible answer. "How come those commandments aren't the same as the ones we learn in sunday school?"
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What happens if someone dies before they became a believer, is it their fault?

Free will is either free or not free. There is no "sorta free". If the will is indeed free to do as it will, whether within bounds and limitations, then it operates independent of causes—and THAT is the problem. We do not operate independent of causes. Therefore, our choices are not entirely free, entirely spontaneous.
That is just your definition of free will, making it only totally free in every and all situations. Each choice can stand on its own, being a free will choice or not a free will choice. Humans are not God, having total free will.

Calvinists (again, I don't claim to be one) often say that a person is free to do what they want, but that is a different use of the word, "free". It doesn't imply causelessness. "Somewhat causeless"? What would that even mean? Yet that is what you seem to want us to agree to.
A man can lust in his heart for a woman of his own free will, but not have the free will ability to physically satisfy that lust, so man’s free will actions are very limited. The same person might keep from lusting after that same woman by lusting after another woman, avoid seeing the woman, and/or be busy doing some spirit filled work and not take the time to lust after the woman.
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Trump pardons Giuliani, Sidney Powell, John Eastman, Mark Meadows, all fake electors for their attempt to overturn 2020 election, pardon official says

While I agree that absolute pardon power is something presidents should not have, and that there is a long list of pardons from Biden that appear questionable - most of them appear to be much more petty crimes. At face value, they also don’t appear to be pardons that Biden would have benefited from politically (though digging deeper might reveal otherwise).

The pardons being issued by Trump are high profile cases. We’re talking elections interference here - something that should be one of the most serious crimes.

The false equivalencies that Trump likes to dabble in are dangerous, and we should not buy into them. If you want pardon power taken away, then fine - but don’t let “they are all corrupt” be an excuse for every immoral action.
There are shenanigans going on in government (both sides) that's not an "excuse" that's a fact .... eventually the truth comes out but it can take a while for it to do so.

Yes ... our elections should be a high priority and everything possible should be put in place to ward off "interference" and so far that has not been done. Ending mail in voting and requiring proper ID would help.
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Video: Professor Crashes Turning Point Meeting and Berates Students

Cheryl Mueller.
Cite? I can't find anything.
They need to stop calling people fascists and racists, to stop the persecution of those who don't have socialist ideologies.
Are they allowed to call actual fascists and racists "fascists" and racists"?
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Are the Jews Israel, or is the church Israel? Or does it depend on the context of the passage?


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Historic Premillennialism vs Amillennialism

A sound interpretation will be consistent with the rest of the Bible's teaching and will not contradict other Scripture.
You left out that prophey is given in riddles (Nu 12:6-8), not clearly and subject to more than one interpretation,
the only rule being that all interpretation must be in agreement with NT apostolic teaching (1 Th 4:16-17) of Christ (Lk 10:16),
which dispensationalism is not.
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Is purgatory a Biblical or extra biblical teaching?

How does this statement -- "Just because we do not have a preserved writing that directly speaks to a teaching prior to a certain point in time, that is not evidence that the belief was not in place prior to that." prove that a teaching is extra Biblical?
Because we have the canon - there is nothing missing. Remember we are discussing is the teaching biblical (found in the Bible) As demonstrated numerous times - it is not there
If that is the case then the dogma of the Trinity is "extra Biblical". The first time the term Trinity is seen in any writing (including the Bible) is around 180AD. So based on your reasoning, the Trinity is an extra-Biblical teaching. Are you a non-Trinitarian Christian?
Not at all the Tri union of the Godhead is found numerous places in both the Old and New Testaments.

Purgatory is not,
Also, I've repeatedly asked you this:

What does being saved only as through fire mean to you?
I've already answered - even asked a question from Scripture as part of my response -
I would appreciate the courtesy of a reply.
So would I - you have not answered the question I posed when I responded to you as referenced above.
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Origin of Life

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God is life, there is no separating life and God. God did not exist and then one day decide to bring life into existence.

There is not such thing as origin of life, that is a science lie. Sadly that is something Bible believing creationist have adopted as a belief
I didn't ask whether he is "life" (whatever that means). I asked whether he is alive.
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What happens if someone dies before they became a believer, is it their fault?

babies have a sinful nature that they need to be delivered from , so then they need a Savior. And as we see in 1 John 2:2 they have a Savior. He has them covered, thank God, and they have no need to "make a decision" to be covered by Christ. Babies do not make decisions
Did Adam and Eve have a sinful "nature" before they sinned?
Did Christ have a sinful "nature" while here on earth?
Maybe the reason they do not need "to make a decision", is because they are in a safe condition, but are you saying as is said in 1 John 2:2 " He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world." the baby has sinned"?
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Historic Premillennialism vs Amillennialism

Keeping in mind that Revelation is prophcy, which is given in riddles (Nu 12:6-8) not spoken clearly and subject to more than one interpretation, which "millennium" is not in agreement with NT apostolic teaching (1 Th 4:16-17) of Christ (Lk 10:16).
A sound interpretation will be consistent with the rest of the Bible's teaching and will not contradict other Scripture.

Revelation contains more than 500 allusions and references to the Old Testament. The most helpful tool for understanding its symbols is often in other parts of the Bible, especially the books of Daniel, Ezekiel, and Isaiah.

Revelation 20 - Satan Bound

According to Revelation 20 ... There is indeed a 1,000 year period in which is referred to as the "millennium " (another word for 1,000 years) in the book of Revelation ... one of the main differences in interpretations is a matter of where the 1,000 years is spent. (in heaven or on earth)

Spent in heaven ...

  • Revelation 20:4: This passage states that saints reigned with Christ for a thousand years and refers to the righteous who were resurrected.
  • 1 Thessalonians 4:17: This verse describes the righteous being "caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air".
  • 1 Corinthians 6:2-3: This passage suggests that the saints will judge the world and even angels.
  • John 14:2-3: Jesus promised His followers, "I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also". (Jesus is in heaven)
  • John 13:33: Jesus tells His disciples, "Little children, yet a little while I am with you... as I said to the Jews, so now I say to you, ‘Where I am going you cannot come.’" This refers to His departure to the Father, which is consistent with believers eventually joining Him in heaven.
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Is purgatory a Biblical or extra biblical teaching?

and you are more than free to do so - It very adequately demonstrates the teaching is extra biblical.
How does this statement -- "Just because we do not have a preserved writing that directly speaks to a teaching prior to a certain point in time, that is not evidence that the belief was not in place prior to that." prove that a teaching is extra Biblical?

If that is the case then the dogma of the Trinity is "extra Biblical". The first time the term Trinity is seen in any writing (including the Bible) is around 180AD. So based on your reasoning, the Trinity is an extra-Biblical teaching. Are you a non-Trinitarian Christian?

Also, I've repeatedly asked you this:

What does being saved only as through fire mean to you?

I would appreciate the courtesy of a reply.
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Gallup: Drop in U.S. Religiosity Among Largest in World

I'm spiteful? It's strange that I'm not the one taking a personalized and direct initiative to camp out for a very long while on one of the "oppositions" courtyards [such as CF here] so I can press my protestations and "be heard."
This is not an "opposition" courtyard. What I do see here is Christians blaming the decline in religiosity on anyone but themselves.
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Eve and the Fallacy of Moral Choices

You missed the point entirely, but no wonder. Mark 4:15 is very real to this day.

In scripture there are no individuals. There is the person and the tempter or his own. This is scriptural reality.

Since one of the parties is unseen, people are simply unaware.

The instant you recognize internal temptations via the tempter, you might get the picture, personally. That is, if you can move past our enemy.

Adam and Eve were both compromised internally by the tempter immediately after The Word was spoken to them, just as Jesus stated. And the evidence is clear, once seen/perceived PERSONALLY.

IF however you are still thinking you are exempt, then you are also being dominated, and can't speak about it factually, i.e. you can't relate.

IF a sin of Satan transpires in the person, the flesh pays the eventual price called death. Romans 8:10

As to blame God clearly BLAMED the serpent, directly and 1st:

Gen. 3:
14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

The "dust" the serpent eats is our FLESH BODY, it's habitations perpetually being retured to the DUST.


Absolutely that was the case. ALL have sin, Romans 3:9, and sin is "of the devil," 1 John 3:8, Mark 4:15 (and a huge number of other scripture citings)

It couldn't be any clearer in the Gospels that Jesus showed DEVILS in people. No one is exempt, other than Jesus.


I never stated that. Adam was God's son, he went directly back to his Father at the end of his life, as did Eve, as do all people, Eccl. 12:7
I do not know where to even begin with all you are saying.

God gave man an objective:

Why did God make humans in the first place?

Why is satan wondering around and/or in people?

This “all people go back to God” suggests universalism, so is that what you are saying?

Do you believe: “the devil made me do it”?
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