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Ren

I accidently stumbled upon this guy called Ren. I spotted a street performance and thought this guy has got something. I like alternative music, and music as an expression of art or self and the world.

Sometimes you get sick of the same old algorythms played all the time and you need something different. Something that makes you stop and listen as it is different and yet provokes you into taking more notice.

But music is a matter of taste and it may not be everyones cup of tea.

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@Apple Sky also still hasn't told us how the 'local' sun and moon stay the same size as they pass from the East, to almost directly overhead, to the West, on the 'true' flat earth.

She claims it is 3000 miles up, but from where I am in Sydney the sun is approaching the East coast of Africa, some 9000 miles away which according to Pythagoras will put the sun about 9487 miles away before sunset, yet the sun is exactly the same size as it was at noon in Sydney. According to the flat earthers it should be one third the size.
How? She can't claim "perspective", because that would make the sun appear to get smaller, which doesn't happen.
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Gallup: Drop in U.S. Religiosity Among Largest in World

Sounds like you're telling Christians how to live their lives. Normative ethics is a part of public life, so why should Christians sit silently while baseless "moral"s run rampant instead of holding firm to the normativity of their ethical principles?
Because a person’s right to flail their arms ends when that hit’s another in the face.
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Why do people hate ICE...

Then you are anti-immigration. It’s that simple.

I say we do want and need more citizens. What makes your opinion more valid than mine, as an American?

No I'm not. I am choosy who we are bringing in as citizens and I don't think we are right now. I'm good with immigration if its done right.

I don't know if your opinionnis more valid or not. Becauae I don't know what your opinion is except that you want more immigrants. That's too broad of a statement to be able for me to say whether it is a more valid than mine due to cogent reasons.
I disagree. We need more.
Why?
We especially need more from the 3rd world
No we don't. Seeking a better life is not a valid reason to allow them in. We've seen that outcome and its not good.
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Will Russiagate scandal forever taint Obama’s legacy?

That anyone believes and swallows the lies of progressive left wing liberal activists and politicians astonishes me.
That anyone watches FOX propaganda outlet astonishes me!
That anyone believes a WORD that comes out of Trump's mouth astonishes me.

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"What’s the one Bible command that wrecked you—in the best possible way?"

I think the 2nd commandment lol. Thats a hard one. It always brings me back to earth. Which sort of relates to loving your enermies, turning the other cheek and especially sacrificing self for others.

It captures all the verses that are about obedience, servitude, suffering for good, and reproving yourself in how you treat others.

I think its one of the most powerful reminders and self checks not just for Chjristians but for human behaviour. Its a fundemental principle of psychology that forgiving and treating others as yourself is a powerful way to overcome yourself.

But unlike therapies it is spiritual so its transofrmative in nature. Its not just a cognitive therapy that retrains the mind to adhere to a theraputic way of life. It transforms the persons very core spiritually which eminates to all parts of the person.

Whenever I am feeling frustrated or getting upset with my fellow humans this powerful commandment brings me back down to earth. Or rather back up to heaven lol.
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Zions New Children

Jesus said that Gods secrets are hidden from the wise and learned - Matthew 11:25
Been there, done that.
Yet no temple.

You asserted you had ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY because you were the special one.
It was like listening to Jake or Elwood.
"We're on a mission from God."

This fact is proved by how 'expert theologians' fail to agree amongst themselves.
And you futurists REALLY agree! :doh:
So evident here on these forums.
However, there is say 80% agreement amongst the Amil theologians I read.

Where there's almost 80 to 95% disagreement between your tribe of futurists.

No matter how stridently you assert you are superior to all other futurists.... you're one of them.
A dime a dozen.

Where's the temple?
Your "Timetable" is running out.
Your original "Holy Spirit" inspired one anyway.
That timetable you defended as an ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY as you basically called friends and clients of mine apostate, like the Pharisees.

Also - again you misunderstand most OT prophesies.
Only a FEW are actually about end times events.
Most are about gospel events - or heaven itself.
But in gospel events, they are either about....

The new people of God - the church.
The new river of God - Jesus - the water of life.
The new temple of God - Jesus - as his body crucified and raised again becomes the new temple "built" in 3 days.

All those thousands of hours of debates here, and endless words on your blog.
Wrong.
A waste of time.
Better to stick with the basics of the gospel - and sharing that.

Oh look - I found it! It's in Wonderland - where it should remain.
Jesus is our temple, our prophet, priest and king, our perfect sacrifice, our Moses showing us the new way, our redeemer kinsman, our saviour, our Lord, our brother, our ladder to heaven.

Rebuilding some temple in the middle east would be a blasphemy!

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Tick tock buddy.
Your temple is late, late, for a very important date!
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Progressive government is the antithesis of a biblically based republic.

We have had decades now of preogressive ideology and enough time has passed for us to see the outcomes of such ideas and beliefs. The many lies told as a replacement for Gods law and order for the world.

A new world order was proclaimed with the revolutions of the mid 20th century. A counter culture claiming true freedom and happiness.

But what we are seeing is chaos and misery. Lies that destroy marriage, the family and society.

Now as these ideas begin to crack and crumble instead of realising the wrong they double down even fighting with violence to maintain the counter culture. Which is primarily aimed at God.

Its a battle between how we order society and the world. About who is God over the world. Humans or the one true God in Christ.
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Wes Huff Responds to Claim the Bible Was ‘Compiled Hundreds of Years’ After Jesus by a ‘Pagan Emperor for Political Reasons’

Agreed it already existed. They just put an official stamp on it... you know... how authourity likes to do to make themselves authoritative. They wre setting up a religious dynasty contrary to the Gospel of the Kingdom.
Christ established His church from the start. Christ church is not some church or proper worship we can find somewhere along the way in our history that has discoverd the true way to worship. When anyone ever says that then you know its suspect.

It was not a case that there was no church and then it came about later. It was there from the very beginning and it has not changed because Christ said Hades will never overcome it. .
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  • Geographical challenge: Antarctica's location at the South Pole means that most satellites in geosynchronous orbit (which circle the Earth above the equator) are blocked by the Earth's curvature. ^_^ This makes continuous, high-speed communication a challenge.
  • Large antennas at bases: To compensate for the low angle and limited visibility of available satellites, research stations utilize large, fixed antennas (often within massive radomes to protect against hurricane-force winds) to capture signals when satellites pass over the horizon.
Antarctica is not "located at the South Pole." The South Pole is a point on Antarctica. Anyway, how does that prevent satellites being in geosynchronous orbit over the equator?

Then, having posted an image headed, "Satellites are a Myth," you say (or quote somebody else saying,) "To compensate for the low angle and limited visibility of available satellites, research stations utilize large, fixed antennas (often within massive radomes to protect against hurricane-force winds) to capture signals when satellites pass over the horizon." How are mythical satellites available? How do they pass over the horizon?

You still haven't told Phil G where the television signals come from that he picks up on his satellite dish which is pointed at the sky. The things mentioned in your image wouldn't work - how would a sky-pointing satellite pick up signals from an undersea cable? How would a fixed dish pick up a constant signal from a moving balloon, plane or drone? How would Phil G's dish, which points to the sky above the equator, not to any tower, antenna or parabolic reflector?
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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

What peer-reviewed articles have been dismissed without argument? What peer-reviewed articles have been dismissed at all?
I guess you were not paying attention. This is a few and there are more.




https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0167577X10008979

https://www.europhysicsnews.org/articles/epn/pdf/2012/06/epn2012436p28.pdf


https://pubs.aip.org/aip/jap/articl...-of-the-Great-Pyramid?redirectedFrom=fulltext
https://ceramics.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1551-2916.2006.01308.x
The one about the bracelet, no. The one about pottery advocating for turntables, no. The simulation of electromagnetic properties in pyramidal objects exemplified by the Khufru pyramid, no. The one about the use of digital photogrammetry, no. The use of piezoelectric cracking of rock, no. The possibility of using some plasters on the surface (this one I haven't touched, but I've seen others write about it). Have their been anymore peer-reviewed articles? I might have missed some. The latest foray into Egyptian acoustic energy generation haven't included any peer-reviewed articles have it?

No one of these present any positive evidence for ancient technology or lost knowledge.
Refer to above.

But its not just peer review. Its the discrediting of experts like King. You don't need peer review to work out that King knows what he is talking about. He virtually makes the same shape parts of the vases. He knows the tooling and machining involved. Yet he is rejected out of hand.
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B flat B♭

You mean towards Antarctica where there are giant fixed relay sat dishes, or sat dishes in the south towards the Arctic.

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I mean that it has already been explained (by other posters, not me) that the satellites used for tv signals are located over the equator, so the further north you are from the equator, the more your satellite has to point south. If you are on the equator, the dish must point directly overhead. If you're south of the equator, the dish must point to the north. I don't know anything about relay sat dishes; we've had several posts here from somebody who set up his own satellite dish, and he certainly didn't say he had to angle it to any relay station.
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Why do people hate ICE...

I fully support President Trump’s efforts to enhance border security. However, the situations occurring within the country, such as in cities like Chicago, Los Angeles, and now in Charlotte , are contrary to biblical teachings.
Are they? Where does it say in scripture that a country should not enforce its border laws? Where does scripture say a country should let criminals go and there should be no consequences for violating a countries laws?
feed the hungry, give water to thirsty, give shelter to stranger, clothed the naked, look after the sick, visit those who are in prison.
This has nothing to do with deporting people who are here illegally or crossing the border illegally.
take care the widow
This has to do with the church and those that belong to the church and what the church should be doing with its members. Its not a mandate that a one country shoild be responsible for another countries people.
give justice to the weak and fatherless
This has nothing to do with a country enforcing its own laws. In fact justice would demand that the laws be enforced in a fair and impartial manner.
take care immigrants
This is one of the most mis-used and misunderstood passages in scripture. At the time there were no border laws. Yet countries still had borders. In this particular passage the Hebrew word for the foreigner is rhe word "ger", which is a reference to someone who is not an Isreali, but a foreigner who has permission to be there. Those who are allowed to be there should be given the same courtesy the Israeli gets.

This is not a reference to those who come to the country without permission or those who are passing through.

Thos passage is not a condemnation of immigration or border laws. In fact the chapter talks about the Jews obtaining permission to be in Egypt which is another reference to borders.
whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.
Once again this is a reference to how we as believers should treat people in need as an individual. There is no command here for countries not have immigration law nor to have open borders nor does it
condemn nations who have and enforce border laws and remove people who have broken the countries.laws.

No where in scripture is there a command that governments should not have border laws nor enforce them. In fact Justice would demand they do enforce the laws they have.
I'm glad the Catholic bishop spoke out against ICE actions. I'm curious how Protestant Christians will respond—will they remain silent about family separations, deporting parents while leaving children behind, or ICE agents arresting people at schools churches?
I'm not the Bishops were out of line and are doing what many do. Misappropriation of the gospel. No where in the gospel does it teach that countries should not have immigration laws nor enforce them.

The family separation is a strawman meant to inflame emotions. Families.are separated all the time when a family member breaks the law. There arw many fathers, brothers ,sister, mother's who are in prison today who are separated from their families. For years. The difference is the families cannot go live with them. In the case of illegals, families certainly can go.be with the family member. In fact illegals are allowed to take their children with them if they want to. In prison today, mother's ir father's cannot bring the children with them.

Yet we dont see any emotional.outrage over that. Its emotional manipulation to satisfy a political belief. The belief being its okay to come and stay in America even if you are illegally here.

These Bishops are violating scripture and twisting it for political means.
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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

What's the difference between natural geometry and ordinary geometry?
Natural geometry is about the natural geometry we see in nature such as Sacred geometry, the Golden ratio or Phi and Pi. Geometric patterns that create the fundamental structure and templates of life in the universe.
Yes, how to do that is called metrology and it is clear that ancient Egyptians understood it.
Yes I think that had a very advanced way to measure things.
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Obama care collapsing.....

Follow the money -

Make a law that there can be no lobbyist - no PAC Money, no contributions to any politicians - then also bar them from any stock purchases connected to the health care industry.

Watch how many still support them.
Follow the money? Sure....


-- A2SG, just as the Heritage Foundation undoubtedly intended.....
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