Apple Sky said:

Phil had posted an image of earth taken from Apollo 16 which I claimed was CGI ,then stronginHim said that we didn't have CGI back in 1972, so I'm asking how come we have the image now ?

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We have the photo because it was a real photo, taken with a real camera from someone who was there at the time.
You tell US how a CGI of the earth was made in 1972 when computers didn't exist.

Apple Sky said:

Well how come they have it now ?

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???
We have computers now because someone invented them.

CGI is Computer Generated Image.
You are saying that a photo of the earth taken from Apollo 16 in 1972 was generated by a computer. Yet they didn't have computers when Apollo 16 was launched in 1972.

David Lamb said:

I am unsure what you mean.

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Phil had posted an image of earth taken from Apollo 16 which I claimed was CGI ,then stronginHim said that we didn't have CGI back in 1972, so I'm asking how come we have the image now ?

Phil G said:

Neither photo I gave was the “blue marble” one referred to in the video nor the Apollo 17 one. So that video does not apply in any way.

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Still, what ever the image is it's CGI , this is not real, if you can't see it well I don't know what else to say.

Apple Sky said:

Well how come they have it now ?

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I am unsure what you mean. There are many things we have now that people back in the early 1970s didn't have - mobile phones, internet, personal computers, electric cars, low energy light bulbs, and many other things. How come we have all those things now? because they have been invented, or developed.

Strong in Him said:

But that was the photo from Apoĺlo 16 which you said was generated by the computer which they didn't have.

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Well how come they have it now ?

mindlight said:

...but do not go to church and are clearly vulnerable to the insidious influence of liberal culture.

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Kids these days, eh? Imagine them having different values to their parents. I don't know what the world is coming to.

Michie said:

But they identify as socialist. Look it up.

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That has nothing to do with Democratic Socialism. Look it up.

Fervent said:

Sometimes I don't, but usually I remind myself that the solemnity is not in my performance but in the testament to God's faithfulness. My understanding of the text in question is that the unworthy manner was because they were missing the fellowship that the Lord's Supper speaks to, through their flagrant injustices towards one another.

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Exactly—Corinth’s problem was love-less greed, not quiet doubts.
I’m with you: the solemnity rests on God’s faithfulness, not my pulse-rate.
Humility still matters—too many services rush the moment and it’s gone; I wish we’d slow it down and let people reflect.
May these shared moments be received in the same grace they were given—humble, honest, and anchored to Christ’s finished work alone.

I’m feeling a year older, and all that goes with it. I feel like I don’t want to do much. But when there is something it gets done. I have a very quiet life and it’s very enjoyable. I feel the Life still surging. Gods love is still there, it needs expressing. Fall wasn’t long enough, spring is far away. Some people hibernate for winter and I sleep and will sit by the fire this winter and I will pray and spring will sprang. Hope will continue God willing.

ThatRobGuy said:

When you consider the vast library of Hitler quotes from various long & laborious speeches (that were scattershot across a myriad of subjects), is it perhaps too easy of a jab to take to merely find "resemblances"?

Overlap in policy & rhetoric doesn't necessarily mean perfect overlap in terms ideological agreement.

"America for Americans" and "France is for the French" existed before Hitler.

And Hitler made quotes about vegetarianism and animal welfare, and I'm sure we could find some "similar sounding" rhetoric between his statements and that of PETA. That wouldn't mean PETA (or the animal rights movement more broadly) should be linked with a propensity for Nazism.


And one certainly doesn't have to be a Nazi to hold the position that fundamentalist Islam is incompatible with Westernized society.

And that's a bidirectional opinion for that matter... Many in the west feel that way... and many Fundamentalist Muslims in the Middle East also feel that their religious ideology and the "excesses of the West" are incompatible.


I'd bet dollars to donuts that at some of those anti-Israel protests that were happening at Harvard, there were probably a lot of things being shouted and written on signs that we could probably track down some overlap with.

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Also when I read the words 'blood and soil' Hitler was the furthest from my mind in relation to American history of fighting for anti slavery and the principles of freedoms and democracy.

They certainly fought and spilt blood on their own soil and that soil produced one of the worlds greatest democracies which gave us freedoms.

But to then equate all this as Nazi is actually the injection of Woke ideologues who turn absolutely everything into being about identity groups. One identity group oppressing another. This isa common MO of the ideologues. They have been calling Trump and his supporters Nazis for 10 years now lol.

Thats why I reckon don't even engage. If you try to defend or talk reason it does not work. This is about ideological beliefs and not objective reality. You can never win. State your beliefs and views when required and don't buy in. Tell the truth when required but don't buy in.

Theres too much fake news in this modern tech world. Too much whitenoise. Too many dark forces at work that will consume you.
Walk away and come back another day. Things may change. But no one will ever win in the culture war and buying in is the fuel that keeps it going.

For a Christian its unbeatable. Just speak the truth and leave it at that. If people don't like it so be it. You can't change them, only God.

Freth said:

"Also, consuming fire." In addition to.

"For our God is a consuming fire." is referring to both His countenance (Exodus 24:17, Revelation 1:16, Revelation 19:11-16) and His wrath (Jeremiah 4:4, Revelation 6:15-17, Revelation 19:21). His countenance is like the sun. A CME isn't necessary. Fire and brimstone from heaven comes after the thousand year reign of Christ (2 Peter 3:7, Revelation 20:7-9).

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Isaiah 30:26, specifically mentions the sun as causing all the graphically Prophesied things. A CME is a one day event; the blast carries on into outer space.
The Lords terrible Day of wrath, must be a natural event, so as the ungodly people can continue in their rejection of God.

Emoji faces are so cute ☺️

Breeding season

Delvianna said:

Don't negate the promise to Abraham of the "seed" which will never die which means ethnic Jews (biological descendants of Abraham). We don't replace Israel, as Paul says, we gentiles are grafted in. The original branches are still there and will always be.

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Jesus said: I know you are descended from Abraham....If you really were Abrahams children, you would act as Abraham did. John 8:37-40
Paul said: .....it is those with faith who share the Blessings with Abraham. Galatians 3:6-9 and - If you belong to Christ, then you are a child of Abraham

All the natural branches were cut off the Olive Tree of Jesus and only a few became Christians and got grafted back, then and still today. That remnant will join with their brethren, as a small minority of Gods peoples. The rest of the apostate Jews, are just the same as every other ungodly people and will share their fate. Isaiah 6:11-13, Luke 19:27

Akita Suggagaki said:

...But this is a good place to practice virtue.

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I feel the same, too.
It's better than many other forums (to practice virtue), even pagan ones---Unbelievable.

bob121 said:

Fervent, that momentary “Am I even doing this right?” ( I have the same go through my mind ) pause is the danger-light Paul talks about—thanks for naming it.
What helps you push through the “ordinary” feeling and actually take the bread and cup anyway?

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Sometimes I don't, but usually I remind myself that the solemnity is not in my performance but in the testament to God's faithfulness. My understanding of the text in question is that the unworthy manner was because they were missing the fellowship that the Lord's Supper speaks to, through their flagrant injustices towards one another.

I think we'd have to define what it means to keep the Sabbath in order for anyone to answer this question, especially in identifying how certain restrictions that are set out in the Bible apply to modern life. Is using electricity causing a fire to be lit? How about driving a car that uses internal combustion in its engine? Is carrying a Bible against the restriction on carrying? And what of the other 30 some categories of work that were forbidden by the Jews on the Sabbath? What do we mean when we say "keep the Sabbath"?

Fervent said:

For me, every time we take communion I have a momentary pause where I question whether I am eating in a worthy manner. It is especially strong on those days when I am just going through the motions and don't feel emotionally connected to the worship or my relationship with Christ in general. Those days, it all just feels so ordinary and I wonder if I am feeling an appropriate sense of awe and gratitude.

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Fervent, that momentary “Am I even doing this right?” ( I have the same go through my mind ) pause is the danger-light Paul talks about—thanks for naming it.
What helps you push through the “ordinary” feeling and actually take the bread and cup anyway?

For me, every time we take communion I have a momentary pause where I question whether I am eating in a worthy manner. It is especially strong on those days when I am just going through the motions and don't feel emotionally connected to the worship or my relationship with Christ in general. Those days, it all just feels so ordinary and I wonder if I am feeling an appropriate sense of awe and gratitude.

Yarddog said:

I've never had a negative experience with the Eucharist. I have received miraculous healing though.

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That’s beautiful—healing at the table is a powerful testimony. Thanks for sharing it, YardDog.

It's never been without risk, since you never know how some random person will react. But are you suggesting that it has somehow become more dangerous? How many street preachers have faced reprocutions, and how does it compare to people who generally make spectacles of themselves in public?(i tried to phrase that less provocatively, but I couldn't quite figure out how to phrase it appropriately)

com7fy8 said:

While I was a Catholic, I had the moment >

"I'm not sure the Eucharist is really the body of Jesus; and if it isn't, I can't take it."

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Thank you for that honest one-liner—what a weighty moment. Grace to you.

I was speaking to a friend about vows of silence. Why people use to take vows of silence like Monks or were generally more quiet and said less as church leaders. Clement of Rome I think mentions how the Elders were of quiet disposition and how this was Christlike. That it was their example that spoke for them.

Paul mentions that it was his reputation for exampling Christ that the church knew he represented the truth. They did not need rationalisations as they could tell by his Christlikeness. When he did speak he was taken seriously and respected. Like many of the early leaders. There was a unity behind the Elders because everyone was unified in Christ. They could recognise the signs.

Whereas today with all the whitenoise of modern rationalisations and even false facts and narratives appealing to feelings. Its hard to tell. We have to stop and listen and try and block out all that white noise to know the spirit and the good fruits.