timewerx said:

I suppose excluding a few 3rd world nations that are actually contributing to the economy makes the plan even better. it's not a good thing to generalize. Not every 3rd world country gives "rotten" immigrants.

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....and yet, you did just that. Generalize.

Apple Sky said:

No they haven't.

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They have.

Apple Sky said:

I have but when I do I just get laughed off.

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No you haven't.

Oompa Loompa said:

Says the auto pen. But this is the mantra of the left. Do you deny it? Why not put your money where your mouth is and send that woman back home?

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Hmm. A woman whose story we don't know, but who could have came here to escape a bad situation and seek a better life. Is it breaking the law by staying here undocumented? Yes. But still something I would wager many of us might do in that situation. A much more understandable offense than say:

1. George Santos: Convicted of fraud. Even admitted to it, if I'm not mistaken. Pardoned by Trump.
2. January 6th Offenders: Violent offenders who stormed the capital, resulting in the eventual deaths of several capital police officers. Given a blanket pardon by Trump.
3. Rudy Giuliani et. al: Conspirators in the fake electors plot. Also pardoned by Trump. At least Giuliani still has civil suits against him, but he should be held accountable to the full extent of the law.

Take all those, and compare them to "the woman" who seems so decidedly evil in your eyes. Do you think the God who you claim to support would take the same stance as you?

David Lamb said:

I don't need to mention them as other posters have done so.

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No they haven't.

Strong in Him said:

If you don't have a bad memory, what's the alternative? That you are doing deliberately to wind people up? That you want to get attention or a higher post count which might make you feel good for a while?

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Not at all, the reason is to get my point across to as many as possible.

Apple Sky said:

I have but when I do I just get laughed off.

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And you don't seem to understand that that's because your views are not based on science - sometime, not even on reality.

"The Elite" want to con us. "The Elite" lie to us. "The Elite" want us to believe".
Come on!

Kjelete said:

I was thinking, scientists say psychics breaks down when a star implodes. Everything`s limited to the speed of light, except when a star is imploding, dying, it can expand as fast as it wants to, they say.

Does that mean you can find a dying star, and then ride the wave when it implodes to travel faster than the speed of light? Is that the only way do it also?

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The light and other material that expands out when the core of a star collapses is still limited by the speed of light... in fact, everything moving through space is.

Apple Sky said:

And what are they ?

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I don't need to mention them as other posters have done so.

pc_76 said:

Apparently sexual desire itself is a sin according to Christians.

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Sexual desire is built into all people. It is the proper application of it that matters. To lust outside of marriage is sin. To lust for another inside marriage is adultery. Lust is the cause of all sin. Lust to steal, lie, murder, commit adultery or fornication , idol worship or anything not of GODS love.

Apple Sky said:

I don't know what your moaning at, it's not been debunked in my book.

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Well, let's look at the first few of the actual Scriptures the list of 200 plus mentions:

Genesis 1:1-19 doesn't mention the shape of the earth. You have agreed that nowhere in Genesis 1 is the earth's shape mentioned.

Genesis 2:1 says:

“Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished.” (Ge 2:1 NKJV)

Again, no mention of the earth's shape.

Job 38:4-5 makes no mention of the earth's shape.

Nor does Jeremiah 31:37, which says:

“Thus says the LORD: “If heaven above can be measured, And the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel For all that they have done, says the LORD.” (Jer 31:37 NKJV)

Proverbs 25:3 says:

“[As] the heavens for height and the earth for depth, So the heart of kings [is] unsearchable.” (Pr 25:3 NKJV)

No mention of shape.

Isaiah 40:22 says:

“[It is] He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants [are] like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.” (Isa 40:22 NKJV)

That verse does not say "The earth is a circle." It mentions the circle or circuit of the earth.

The context of Job 38:13-14 is the way the coming of dawn causes the shape of the earth (mountains, valleys, etc.) to become visible. You have to ignore that context in order to make the verses mean that the whole earth is flat.

Well, that is the first seven of the 200 plus so-called "Flat Earth Bible Verses." I don't have the time to refer to all 200-plus.

SabbathBlessings said:

I understand that may be your view, but what I care about is what does the Scriptures state, are the feasts days about animal sacrifices. I am not sure if we are reading the same Bible but the annual feast days were all about animal sacrifices and atonement.
So I going to ask you again, why would God kill innocent sheep and goats before there was sin, just for fun?

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I never said, nor does the Bible say, that God killed innocent sheep and goats "before there was sin".

It is my understanding of Scripture, not just a verse here or there, but "ALL" Scriptures, that God desires obedience, respect, honor towards HIM, which is only a reasonable expectation given our very existence is 100% founded in His Mercy and Love to create us in the first place.

I will ask you a question whose answer is necessary before an honest discussion of Scriptures between us can conclude. I answered your question, there is no atonement or Blood (The life of a being) needed, when there is no transgression.

So here is a question for you, and we will see if you will answer.

"In your understanding, Did God know Adam and Eve would sin when HE placed them in the garden"?

We will see if you are really interested in real fellowship and discussion of Scriptures.

prodromos said:

Of course not. You just block your ears and cry "la, la, la, la". You don't engage in any rational discourse when your views are challenged.

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I have but when I do I just get laughed off.

Apple Sky said:

And what are they ?

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You've been told what some of them are - stop trying to change the subject because you don't know the answer.

Dreyma said:

I hope you're right. That does seem more just to me.

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If my cat or my dog made a mess, how much punishment do they deserve? Very little, if at all. I would be an evil person if I torture them.

Despite our pitfalls and addictions, we trust ourselves and others in the loving hands of God and Christ.

Apple Sky said:

I don't know what your moaning at, it's not been debunked in my book.

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So explain it then.

Strong in Him said:

He can still be wrong.
And the fact that you purchased some of these Flat Earth cards and handed them out, proves nothing - except that you don't always check your sources before you pass them onto others.

1. "earth created before the sun",
"universe is complete",
"creation worshippers",
"Be still and know that I am God",
"everyone sees Jesus",
and others do not even mention, never mind prove, the shape of the earth.

2. "Matthews Bible mentions flat earth" is a completely ridiculous statement. The reference given is 2 Samuel 11:11. This verse is in the middle of a passage about David and Bathsheba. Bathsheba's husband was telling David that he was not going to go home and seduce his wife while his men were fighting a war. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the shape of the earth. Putting that on a poster titled "200 Flat earth verses" is an embarrassment to whoever designed the poster.

3. "The earth has ends", contradicts your verse from Isaiah which you insist says the earth is a circle. Ditto, "the earth has corners".

4. "earth has pillars and hangs on nothing" contradicts your statement from another thread that the foundations are rooted in the underworld.

This is only a few of the problems. The biggest being that all verses are taken out of context so that the Bible is made to say whatever the author of the poster wants it to say.
I've no doubt this guy is a born again Christian - the shape of the earth doesn't affect that. I highly doubt he knows how to read the Bible.

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Apple Sky said:

If that's the case then you & few others on here must have it.

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Not at all.

I'm not saying for one minute that you do have it, and I certainly wouldn't wish it on anyone.
But the fact is, there must be a reason why you ask questions on here, or post pictures/YouTube clips; get them answered, debate those answers and then, weeks, or months later, post the same thing again. You must know that people disagree with you and, in many cases, you have been proved to be wrong.
If you don't have a bad memory, what's the alternative? That you are doing deliberately to wind people up? That you want to get attention or a higher post count which might make you feel good for a while?

You will probably say that these are your beliefs and you want others to know the "truth". Considering the number of people who disagree with you and prove that you are mistaken - not only in your understanding of science but also your knowledge of Scripture - how's that going for you?

You haven't answered my post, #1,973. I'm guessing you can't.

Apple Sky said:

Really - I thought it was as a stroke if genius & I think Nathan Roberts understands Scripture perfectly well.

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Yes, you would think that

Jerry N. said:

That is convenient, but wrong.

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Why is it wrong ? They only tell the public the truth when it suits them which is hardly ever.

Apple Sky said:

I don't know what your moaning at, it's not been debunked in my book.

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Of course not. You just block your ears and cry "la, la, la, la". You don't engage in any rational discourse when your views are challenged.

Servus said:

Someone being rude to me isn't going to prompt me to have a discussion with them.

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Well, if it came off that way, I do apologize.

What I'm seeing from my end is that when confronted with evidence that contradicts your point, you change the subject and act like the evidence was never presented. Whether it was intentional or not, I see that quite a bit on these forums. I understand that its a politics forum, so that's par for the course. But the naive Christian in me somewhere deep down still expects better when it comes to dealing with other Christians.

David Lamb said:

It is, but they were only examples, as I said. There are others.

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And what are they ?

Strong in Him said:

I must admit, the first couple of times you posted it I ignored it. But then I started looking up some of the references.
The thing's a joke and the person who produced it should be embarrassed that it just shows their inability to read Scripture and argue logically.

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Really - I thought it was as a stroke if genius & I think Nathan Roberts understands Scripture perfectly well.

High Fidelity said:

Great news. I wish the UK would do the same. We don't want more Muslims here.

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Lot of those third world countries are christian majority.

prodromos said:

So despite you having been shown it is rubbish, you intend to post it again and again in the hope that someone who hasn't seen it being debunked might fall for the deception. That shows despicable character.

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I don't know what your moaning at, it's not been debunked in my book.