Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist
- By Studyman
- Controversial Christian Theology
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Can you please show me a single place where I claimed that man is born immortal, I would never make such a silly statement in the first place.
We are debating, as the thread shows, whether mortal human lives (soul/spirit/essence, whatever you consider as "human") are tortured for eternity, along with evil immortal angels, in a fire specifically created for them. I am addressing your statements, like the following. This is not "Flaming", as you have asked me to show you what "You Claim", therefore, I should be withing the rules of this forum to provide an honest reply to your questions.
Dan1988 said:
"The Lord Jesus taught that eternal punishment in the lake of fire, awaits Satan and sinners alike. So what you said about people not being cast into the lake of fire to be tormented in fire for all eternity,, is not supported by the Bible. It's just your wishful thinking which is futile and doesn't change the fact that sinners will experience unimaginable torment in fire forever and ever with no hope of any ending."
And in this post.
Dan1988 said:
"Those who are cast into the lake of fire do not cease to exist, no they suffer Eternal Conscience Torment in Hell. So they are separated from "Life", to live is to be in Christ. Death is being separated from God for all eternity, so they experience dying an d death forever while they are fully conscience with all of their feelings intact."
So in each case, you are saying that some, perhaps many mortal humans will be placed in this fire, reserved for immortal angels and therefore, of course, the fire will burn forever and ever because angels are immortal.. But in your statements above, you are saying that this fire won't kill/destroy the mortal humans. That somehow these humans have become "immortal" and will therefore be tortured eternally just like the immortal angels that deceived them.
But where did these humans receive this immortality, you say they must have, come from? It can only come from God, in my view as a believer in God. So they were either born with it, which is what "many" who come in Christ's Name promote in this world God placed me in. Or God grants them the gift of immortality after HE raises them from the dead, and then casts them into the Fire..
I think both philosophies are, as you say, "Silly". Nevertheless, according to your statements, you are at least one of these silly teachings.
I have heard from men in this world that there are many different life's, deaths and genders and so on and so forth. But in my understand of the Holy scriptures, there are only 2 genders.
Male and Female,
And there are only two kinds of death.
A death from which there is a resurrection. (temporary death).
A death from which there is no resurrection, (death everlasting).
Just as there are only two kinds of Life.
A temporary life. (Mortal)
An Eternal life (Immortal)
And in each case, it is God who determines which is which.
What Paul advocates for is trusting in the Holy scriptures "for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
And then accepting His Determination and definition of these things, when "ALL" of His Word's are considered.
I believe Paul.
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