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Cardinals

And that’s the thing. Many present themselves as couples. They do not look like individual blessings. I’ve even seen priests wear rainbow sashes while doing so.
I mourn the death of Pope Francis as a person but not as a Pope. Does that sound cold? Oh well :|
(I say that because he is the one that did this blessing stuff of the same-sex couples)
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Can AI possess intuition?

Well what would you call it then?
Back in the early 80's when everyone was trying to figure out desktop computers, I was an assistant engineer in a world class research group at Tektronix. The lab was staffed with 45 PhD level computer scientist, of which as an assistant engineer I was certainly not one. That was a pretty interesting time for me. I learned a lot there. One department was working with Smalltalk which at the time was branded an AI program. I've posted a link below about Tektronix Smalltalk becomeing an AI Language. AI has matured a lot since than, but its still built on a computer program language. Intuition, the way I look at it, is an aspect of conscousness. At most, all a machine can do is process an AI program language that mimincs a form of pseudo-conscousness. From some level of pseudo-conscosness a machine running an AI program can exercises a type of pseudo-intuition. But in the end, it's just a computer program.

How Smalltalk Became a AI Language
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Trump threatens Harvard's tax-exempt status after freezing $2bn funding, demands apology

I provided it before, here it is again.



New York, NY, USA 15 May 2024—Now in its 13th year, Deloitte’s 2024 Gen Z and Millennial Survey connected with nearly 23,000 respondents across 44 countries, examining the evolving circumstances shaping the workplace and the societal experiences of these generations globally.

“This year’s survey spotlights two generations who are grappling with financial insecurity, high stress levels, and mounting climate anxiety.


From their 2024 reports:
-- revealed that nearly half of Gen Zs (50%) and just over four in 10 millennials (43%) have rejected/refused assignments at work, and 44% of Gen Zs and 40% of millennials have rejected employers, due to perceived misalignment with their sociopolitical beliefs.
Good for them. But your implication was that because of that they were all unemployed.
-- found that 53% of Gen Z said they would decline a job offer if the employer’s mission did not adequately align with their beliefs, even if they were unemployed.


We're talking about 2 generations who are very "soft" in comparison to their predecessors.
Why "soft?"
And given that:
Around 62% of Gen Z high school graduates enrolled in college, compared to 67% of Millennials

2/3 of those both generations enrolled in college.

The boomer and Gen X generations weren't so "squishy", so they didn't get those traits from their parents.

So if it's not universities that are creating this, then it's k-12... but I don't think it's the latter. Despite some conservative talking points, I don't think k-12 has been captured quite to that degree yet like universities have.


You're right, it's the K-12. The critical thinking skills you think they lack which makes them prey to intoctrination should have been taught in K-12;
Conservatives are against it.
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DNC chair rips vice chair David Hogg’s plan to challenge incumbent Democrats

Party leaders shouldn’t “lead”?
Alright, then.
Eh, as much as I initially defended Hogg as a DNC vice-chair in concept, I don't think that party leadership should be actively involved in undermining Democratic candidates. See the anger over the shenanigans the DNC pulled for Clinton to head off Sanders in 2016. It's good to see that current leadership is trying to prevent a repeat of that situation.

The purpose of a party's National Committee is to steer the ship and direct overarching strategy. This can include figuring out which candidates to put forward, privately pressuring specific people to run (or not run), and deciding who gets Committee support for their campaign. But that's all in the background, behind the scenes - they (and their leadership) should not be out there trying to primary incumbents and running attack ads against other party members.

If Hogg wants to do that, that's fine. But he shouldn't be doing it as a DNC vice-chair. I think that's a perfectly reasonable ask.
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ELCA will not remove conscience protections for gay marriage opponents: official

Mainline Lutheranism encourages a great deal of moral autonomy. Evangelical Lutheran social statements are usually very broad and general in tone, rarely dictating specific outcomes, and are usuallly descriptive rather than prescriptive.

The United Church of Christ takes a similar approach. We also share a democratic polity that is congregationalist, and our social statements are likewise descriptive rather than prescriptive.
No offense, but it sort of sounds like Baptists. But Baptists don't have a hierarchical system. If a congregation goes too far, it can be removed from whatever association it may be in, but the congregation remains.
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Those who believe in healing, gifts etc

Its because you want to see yourself as part of Israel and their covenant with God (Romans 9:3-5).

That's understandable, as I said, under the covenant of Law, Israel was promised physical healing if they obey the terms of the covenant. (Deuteronomy 7:15, Exodus 15:26).

Healing was not random under their covenant, it was not "God may heal, God may not, we just need to trust him", that we gentiles have now under the Body of Christ (Philippians 2:27, Philippians 4:6-7)
No Israel's covenant is by far inferior. From the fall of Adam to our eternal life, God's provision has been progressive and expansive. The Israelites never had the spirit of God in them, it came upon them. Their sins were passed over, our sins are forgiven. They never had the authority that Jesus provided for us. Luke 10:19 “ Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
They never had the shield of faith that could extinguish all the fiery darts of the enemy. It is not even close, what the new covenant can do. Paul himself knew this when he prayed this in Ephesians. It is said we use something like 10% of our brain. Perhaps in our spiritual walk it is similar, that we simply are failing to understand our authority and power into Christ.
Ephesians 1:18-19 (NASB)
18 I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened, so that you will know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints,
19 and what is the surpassing greatness of His power toward us who believe. These are in accordance with the working of the strength of His might

Though I may waver, I just don't see any lack on the part of God. On the other hand, I have seen lots of human failure, even in my own life that keep us from living in the abundance that God provides, including healing. The devil kills, steals and destroys, Jesus gives abundant life. Sure there are trials and temptations, and yes, there are some conditional promises but still no lack on God's part. When anyone conveys the gift of salvation to an unbeliever, it is always in their best interests. So those who convey healing and the genuine things of God to believers too are doing that to others in their best interests. Even in this conversation my faith has grown stronger to this point of raising other's levels of expectation for God to move on their behalf. Sure there will be failures, but nothing on God's part that I can see.
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Year-Old VA Mortgage Rescue Program Ended by Trump Administration

There is a bill that has been going through congress since March 3rd that appears to be a replacement for this program.




The Mortgage Bankers Association has been advising on gaps in the bill.



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If We Go On Sinning

Exactly. Those who believe in the concept of Eternal Security or "once saved, always saved" often overlook this little detail. Christ taught us what to do with our lives and one of those things was to leave sin behind. He also taught stuff like using our time and resources to help those less fortunate. I heard an old preacher one time say "If Christians just spent their time and money doing what Christ taught they wouldn't have any time or money left to engage in sin".
Thank you for sharing that. As you can imagine, I don't normally get many people agreeing with this, for so many are believing that they can just give lip service to the Lord and they have forgiveness of all sins and heaven guaranteed them. But if they read the Scriptures in context, they can't miss it that faith in Jesus involves leaving our sins behind us and following our Lord wherever he now leads us, in obedience to him as our Lord - all because of what Jesus did for us on that cross, by the grace of God, and in the power of God, for the glory of God.
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War in the Heavenlies: Israel V. Persia

If the princes of Israel and Persia are at war,

who then is Israel and the US at war with?

AI Overview

Several modern-day countries were part of the Persian Empire, including Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Turkey, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and parts of Central Asia and the Caucasus. At its peak, the Persian Empire stretched from the Balkans in Europe to the Indus River Valley in India, encompassing a vast swathe of territory across the Middle East and parts of North Africa and Central Asia.


Here's a more detailed breakdown:

If you "can't" go to Divine Mercy Sunday

Here I go again. I might not be able to go to Divine Mercy Sunday, even though I'm going to try to go to regular Mass. This is kind of sad. I see my devotion waning because of circumstances. I'm still thankful I went to Easter Vigil but still.

Anyone who hasn't gone, what do you do to "make up" for it? I could say the Divine Mercy Chaplet myself (I hate to sound bad but I find it annoying the way my parish sings it anyway), but I'd be missing out on the Homily and Confession.

To be honest, the DMC (Divine Mercy Chaplet) has never interested me (I am truly sorry, I do not intend to offend). My comment is knowingly subjective. It does not hit the spot for me. I prefer a decade of the Rosary than the entire DMC but as I said, I am stating an opinion.

However, I think my post is "copium." I'm trying to find ways to "look critically" at this because internally, I wish I could be going. I highly doubt it will work out for me tomorrow.

China largely silent on Pope Francis’ death amid global tributes

They aren't actually in communion, though? right?
Officially the Chinese Patriotic Association IS the Catholic Church in China. According to China. According to the Vatican. The underground Catholics have been thrown under the bus for the Sino-Vatican deal. I don't know if the undergrounders are technically in schism now but they don't get the time of day from the Vatican.
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A Flame Of Fire

Revelation 1:14 His head and hair were white like wool,

as white as snow, and His eyes like a flame of fire.

The word ‘fire’ appears twenty-five times in the book of Revelation, as there is a whole lotta burning going on. Only three times this word is modified by ‘a flame’, and only to describe the Master’s eyes. They are not the red hot mixture of gasses erupting from a burning pyre, they are the pure and clear flame of swirling heat above the fire, and for those who have been trained by it, the source of all comfort.

Do the Master's eyes reveal judgment to you, or comfort?

2 Corinthians 1:

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,

the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,

4 who comforts us in all our tribulation,

that we may be able to comfort those

who are in any trouble, with the comfort

with which we ourselves are comforted by God.

Servants of the Lord are not ministers of fiery judgment, they receive the Lord’s Comforter, and deliver comfort to others. This comes in the form of loving correction that may not seem pleasant, but painful, while enabling us to use the same meek touch in offering correction.

Galatians 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

A Flame of Fire will come from the Lord in Judgment

2 Thessalonians 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us,

when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven

with his mighty angels,

8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God,

and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.


Fire, or a Great Blast of Heat?

Daniel 3:

22 Therefore, because the king’s command was urgent,

and the furnace exceedingly hot,

the flame of the fire killed those men who took up

Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego.

23 And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego,

fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.

The Day of the Lord brings the heat!

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night,

in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the

elements will melt with fervent heat
; both the earth and the works

that are in it will be consumed.

The Lord Yeshua is not a fire exhaling dragon!

2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then the lawless one will be revealed,

whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth

and destroy with the brightness of His coming.

A "Flame of Fire" is the heat plume from the fire.

Only Three Are Tormented Eternally

Revelation Twenty:

10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire

and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are.

And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

[
note: not second death]

Revelation Twenty-One
:

7 He who overcomes shall inherit all things,

and I will be his God and he shall be My son.

8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers,

sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars

shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire

and brimstone, which is the second death.


The Second Death is Death not torment Duh!

ECT for the unsaved is a cruel lie against the Lord,

and such who hold this belief are anathema, deceived

by a vain attempt to "scare sinners straight" by telling

them they will spend an eternity in fiery torment.

Salvation is received one way, in Love. You can drop the

scare tactics, show them the Love of the Father.

Revelation Twenty: In the Heavenlies, or On Earth?

Revelation Twenty:

7
Now when the thousand years have expired,

Satan will be released from his prison

8 and will go out to deceive the nations

which are in the four corners of the earth,

Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle,

whose number is as the sand of the sea.

9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and

surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city.

And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them.

To think that Satan could convince the world to go to war against the Son of God Himself is utterly ludicrous. The Elect reign with Christ for 1000 years, and not by Grace.

"For out of Zion shall go forth the law,
And the word of the Lord from Jerusalem."

Do you not understand that during the Millennium, the death penalty required for any trespass will be enforced by The Elect?

Get a clue, this is fully foreshadowed in the Testimony of Israel. After 40 years of the most glorious kingdom reign, Israel immediately revolted against the House of David.

Why?

First Kings Twelve:

4
“Your father made our yoke heavy; now therefore, lighten the burdensome service of your father, and his heavy yoke which he put on us, and we will serve you.”

Year to year, the nations will come to Jerusalem and appear "before the Lord"as they did under Law, even before there was a Temple. A Temple was not required to keep Sukkot.

"year to year" = time remains.

Satan most certainly is NOT bound at this time as he has continued to steal, kill, and destroy. How completely duplicitous to claim there is no scriptural support for the Millennium when the words "thousand years" appears 6X!

And what will you do when the heads start to roll? There will be no rapture, just a choice to be made.

Revelation Twenty:

4
And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

Consider this carefully friends. If Yeshua has to return to the earth for us to reign with Him for a thousand years, then we have dismally failed in our training.
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Trump denies aid for Arkansas after storms that killed more than 40 people

Wait, what happened to:

As long as I am your governor, the meddling hand of big government creeping down from Washington DC will be stopped cold at the Mississippi River.

Ugh, looks like big government didn't make it across the Mississippi.
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Managing Extroverted Greeters

That is a place of lying fakery. Go find the Lord's church, which is not that.
There is a difference between autistic "masking" in order to not come across as disturbing in social situations and a dark church that forces everyone to put on a mask and play a role in order to be accepted.

My advice is to try and find an Christian autism support group, if one exists. Then the group can go to church as a pack and support each other rather than trying to navigate social misunderstandings alone.
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The Resurrection: 2000 Years Ago or Two Days Ago. What's The Difference?

Watch how simple this is...

Revelation Twenty:

7
Now when the thousand years have expired,

Satan will be released from his prison

8 and will go out to deceive the nations

which are in the four corners of the earth,

Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle,

whose number is as the sand of the sea.

9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and

surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city.

And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them.

To think that Satan could convince the world to go to war against the Son of God Himself is utterly ludicrous. The Elect reign with Christ for 1000 years, and not by Grace.

"For out of Zion shall go forth the law,
And the word of the Lord from Jerusalem."

Do you not understand that during the Millennium, the death penalty required for any trespass will be enforced by The Elect?

Get a clue, this is fully foreshadowed in the Testimony of Israel. After 40 years of the most glorious kingdom reign, Israel immediately revolted against the House of David.

Why?

First Kings Twelve:

4
“Your father made our yoke heavy; now therefore, lighten the burdensome service of your father, and his heavy yoke which he put on us, and we will serve you.”

Year to year, the nations will come to Jerusalem and appear "before the Lord"as they did under Law, even before there was a Temple. A Temple was not required to keep Sukkot.

"year to year" = time remains.

Satan most certainly is NOT bound at this time as he has continued to steal, kill, and destroy. How completely duplicitous to claim there is no scriptural support for the Millennium when the words "thousand years" appears 6X!

And what will you do when the heads start to roll? There will be no rapture, just a choice to be made.

Revelation Twenty:

4
And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

Consider this carefully friends. If Yeshua has to return to the earth for us to reign with Him for a thousand years, then we have dismally failed in our training.
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