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Vatican stops use of titles for Mary

The point was lost in a forest of Epiphanios Panarion Collyridians Antidicomarians Alogi Manichaeans Pneumatomach Origenists etc.

The Gospel leads us to Jesus and the Holy Spirit brings us closer to him.
Jesus cannot be separated from the Body of Christ, and removing Him from the surrounding context including Marian titles is more likely to lead astray to a false Jesus than to lead to understanding who Jesus is. Denial of Mary more often is a denial of the incarnation than specifically an issue with Mary, because dealing with His maternity requires we wrestle with the mystery of God made man.
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Gallup: Drop in U.S. Religiosity Among Largest in World

The average Democratic voter is worlds removed from the politicians running the Democratic party.
They arent wound up about "critical theory" either, from what I read.

I suppose there could be a secret cabal who are the keepers of the theories.
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The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

Scriptures points to the saving death of Christ, for them He died for. Now all for whom He died had a legal union with Him and were in Him, so that when He died, they died with Him just as they had a legal union with Adam so that when he died, they died with him. So for those in Christ when He died for them, and rose again, so too also they having died in Him, must also be raised up in newness of life Rom 6:4-6

4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

See those Christ died for shall walk in the newness of life, will be delivered from being a servant of sin, which is unbelief. In other words they for whom Christ died will be born again, partake of the renewing of the Holy Ghost Titus 3:5

5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

The renewing of the Holy Ghost equates to walk in the newness of life in Rom 6:4 above. 9
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Do you keep the Sabbath? (poll)

The issue is not Sabbath keeping, but that in restoring the law you declare Christ's death to have been in vain.
You will need to take that up with Jesus. He never said the Sabbath blessing ended at the Cross but His faithful would be keeping decades later and up to His Second Coming Mat24:20 and for eternity Isa66:22-23. Why the apostles kept the Sabbath decades after the Cross with all nations just as Jesus said Isa56:6-7 Acts 13:44 Acts 15:21 Acts 18:4 etc
And being made for man, if man sees no need to keep it then there is no law being violated. It is not the Sabbath that is problematic in "Sabbath keepers" but their putting themselves under the law despite claiming to have died to it.
Man is not God, I do not think accepting Gods gift of blessings and sanctification will work out for man because we can't sanctify ourselves Isa66:17.

And the Sabbath is very much a commandment of God, God placed it in the same unit as only worshipping Him and not stealing from our neighbor. I think you will need to take your grievances of the Sabbath up with Him, He just wants to spend time with us on the day He asked that He blessed and sanctified. I am not in a place to judge His commandments or find fault with them, I think if we let God be God, He will only ask us for what is in our best interest, why He said the Sabbath was made for man, not against man.
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B flat B♭

But you obviously can't understand that proof of a globe earth is easy to find because it is the truth.

And it is what has been indoctrinated into us since we were kids.
The reason why everyone can find evidence for a globe is the Elite have pushed & pushed this nonsense onto everyone for a very long time.

The reason why F/E's find evidence so hard to come by, is because the Elite don't want the truth getting out, this is also the reason for ridiculing F/E's.
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Sense of community at local oarish

How is it at yours? Ours is a large church with elementary and high school. So if you have children or grandchildren it can be easy to feel integrated. Otherwise I notice the same people at daily Mass and there is a tacit recognition that we share this. Sometimes there are adult education programs or other small groups for people who have the time to attend. I had always hoped for third order or oblate possibility.

Release from Epstein files

This systematic review revealed no incriminating 'client list.' There was also no credible evidence found that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals as part of his actions. We did not uncover evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties.

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What Did You Learn In Church Today?

11/9/25 am on 1 Sam 25
Peace is hard. Conflict. Divisiveness. Anxiety. Hard to keep. Internal.
Nabal doesn't show David hospitality or give David the sheep he wants & David takes an army to get them. Abigail pleads w/ David to turn back & he does.
Abigail shows humility & respect. She does not view herself as better then David, talk bad of him, or puff up her own experiences. She takes action & isn't afraid to avoid conflict & brokenness. Her testimony would've been considered less in that time. Keeping the peace avoids division, but making peace requires the possibility of division.
Rome had acquired peace by power, but Jesus says the peacemakers will be the children of God. The difference between the world's peace & Jesus's peace is the world's peace comes thru human power, & his is a work of God in us.
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Number 12 ..........

Interestingly ...........

We have Twelve disciples
We have Twelve tribes of Israel
We have Twelve hours in a day
We have Twelve months of the year
We have Twelve Jurors who sit on the jury
We have Twelve signs of the Zodiac
We have Twelve inches in a foot
We have Twelve that makes up a dozen
We have Twelve stations of the moon & the sun
We have Twelve ribs our bodies
We have Twelve men who have supposedly walked on the moon

Meaning of Numbers: The Number 12​

The English word "twelve" used for the number 12 is recorded 189 times in 165 King James Bible verses. It occurs 114 times in the Old Testament and has 75 occurrences in the New Testament. The word "twelfth" is found an additional 23 times in Scripture.

The number 12 is one of the foundations of Scripture. The meaning of 12 is that it symbolizes God's power and authority, as well as serving as a perfect governmental foundation. It can also symbolize completeness or the nation of Israel as a whole.

God specified that twelve unleavened cakes of bread be placed every week in the temple with frankincense next to each of the two piles that were to be made. The priests were commanded to change the bread every Sabbath day (Leviticus 24)

Stepping from Fog into Sunlight: What is your "Holy Ground" moment?

I have issues with anxiety, and borderline panic attacks. One thing that I've found works for me extremely well is reciting the Jesus prayer, "Lord Jesus Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner." Most of the time when i do this, I get this sense that I am not alone and my anxiety disappears and is replaced with a sense of bold confidence. I sense the Spirit carrying me, and know that what He wills, He makes provisions for.
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Bowing Head at Mass

“A bow of the head is made when the three Divine Persons are named together and at the names of Jesus, of the Blessed Virgin Mary, and of the Saint in whose honor Mass is being celebrated.”



Well, not at my parish. There has never been education or formation on this. Maybe half a dozen people among 500 will bow.

How about yours?

There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

You really need to take a step back and settle down lol.

I was making a joke about how easy it is to make up stuff by just typing the words onto the paper.

Notice how I copied exactly your words and just replaced two of them In fact I only had to change "nonsense" by replacing the 'non' with 'common' lol.

The point was that anyone can just say the words. If you make claims or objections about people without evidence. Then I can turn those claims and objections into falsehoods and claim the exact opposite without evidence. If this is the way you want to determine the truth.
Do you know what Poe's law is? (You should it originated on this site.)

To use the vernacular form, no one here believes you are "a Poe".
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No Mayor - you cannot control privately owned businesses - if they want to leave, they can.




So is the the stores or the news companies that are exaggerating?




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January 6 rioter, freed by Trump pardon, arrested again on federal weapons charge

A third former Jan. 6 defendant, Dan Wilson, also faced firearms charges unrelated to Jan. 6, and two weeks ago, the Justice Department rejected his claim that Trump’s clemency covered those charges. But on Thursday, his attorney urged a court to delay the start of his prison sentence, saying the Justice Department had agreed to “take another look” at his case.

Trump pardons Jan. 6 rioter for gun offense and woman convicted of threatening to shoot FBI agents

Wilson was pardoned for the gun charges, as for the woman...

After FBI contacted her in 2021 about a tip indicating she may have been at the Capitol on Jan. 6, she posted a video on social media citing her Second Amendment right to carry a gun and she threatened to shoot agents if they came to her house.

I guess threatening federal agents is okay this week.
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Harvard conservative magazine is suspended by its own board after publishing article laced with Nazi rhetoric

Also when I read the words 'blood and soil' Hitler was the furthest from my mind in relation to American history of fighting for anti slavery and the principles of freedoms and democracy.

They certainly fought and spilt blood on their own soil and that soil produced one of the worlds greatest democracies which gave us freedoms.
Okay, that is what the words "blood and soil" evoke in your mind. Something about the honor/sacrifice of those who gave their lives for America.

But that is not what "blood and soil" meant in Nazi ideology. Today we might say "genes and soil" -- that something about the German people was specifically connected to the land. And that the people were better because the land was better. And people who didn't have German blood didn't belong on the German soil. (and 'them' not being connected to the land, congregated in the cities, and filled them with moral turpitude.) Per wiki: a racially defined national body ("Blood") united with a settlement area ("Soil").

So now we ask ourselves how the author of the Harvard Salient used it. The full text isn't public (as far as I know), but what we know of it is that it does not seem to be about the battlefields of Saratoga or Gettysburg, but about Muslims not belonging in America.

Whereas Hitler said, “France to the French, England to the English, America to the Americans, and Germany to the Germans,” Army wrote, “Germany belongs to the Germans, France to the French, Britain to the British, America to the Americans.”

(This again is connecting a nation of people directly to a place.)

Army also called for the adoption of notions of “blood, soil, language, and love of one’s own” in response to concerns over large-scale migration of Muslims into Europe.

This is pretty clearly a very similar sentiment to the way the Nazis used the phrase -- to separate an us (our blood/genes, our soil, our language, our love of us) from some other, who doesn't belong.
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Priest and layman liberate Christian slaves from bondage in Pakistan

Three Christian families in Pakistan have been liberated from bondage thanks to the ongoing efforts of an Argentine priest and young layman who recently returned to Spain from the Muslim-majority country.

Father Rico, a priest with the Order of St. Elias based in Argentina, told CNA that he paid Muslim Pakistani businessmen the equivalent of $1,700 to liberate three Christian families from debt bondage.

Men, women, and children have been subjected to generational hard labor making bricks to pay off debts, enduring rape, forced marriage, and forced conversion in Pakistan, especially since the 1980s, when relations between Christians and Muslims deteriorated.Christians have been attacked and murdered there following accusations that they have violated Muslim religious laws.

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