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MarkRohfrietsch · 2025-12-14T06:01:00-0600

Unqualified said:
Thank you. You’re so friendly. Beautiful house. You probably like being there. Very cozy looking. We had snow about five years ago. Sometimes it stays. Pretty proud of this. Brings out the mountain man.View attachment 374465

Great photo!

Days are somewhat short here in the winter. With the snow on the ground, our nights seem not quite as dark.

Yes, very small, but cozy. My wife always says that the "smoke" coming out of the chimney makes it look warm (natural gas furnace and water heater). Next picture is from Highway 7 near forest taken on the 12th, that is about an hour south west of us:

rocknanchor · 2025-12-14T05:59:40-0600

Michie said:
After retiring from law enforcement, I became a pastor and began witnessing restoration of a different kind, spiritual revival. That same heartbeat led my daughter and me to launch Boost Others to help people in crisis through small, practical acts of care. Working alongside social workers, we fill gaps covering groceries, rent, or a child’s bed — and often, when people are open, we share the hope that brings lasting renewal.

Revival in the trench or some affluent's altar or some other unchartered area of life. His Spirit you know can supply where lack or uncertainty has captivated all. One measure of His will can break these hinderances down. Glory to God for your labor to these ends!

Larniavc · 2025-12-14T05:59:18-0600

essentialsaltes said:
The Trump administration on Monday kicked off a scramble among the 50 states for a slice of a new $50 billion fund for rural health care, but experts on the ground fear the program’s rushed timeline, lack of guardrails and potential for politicization will leave some hospitals struggling to stay open.

It’ll end up in someone’s pocket.

stevevw · 2025-12-14T05:56:58-0600

Hans Blaster said:
Whether people claim that body/mind thing or not --

1. it is not a conspiracy
2. changing that about Christianity does not define "Dark Ages" (please, learn what that actually is)

and...

3. I don't care about philosphy or theology.

Then don't jump into my posts with another lol. It was not about you but a disagreement I was having with another person. I know my own arguements with others and what is being said and how to respond to this. I don't need your help lol. That just makes it worse lol. You don't know the context in which I was discussing this and why I was responding the way I did.

I was the other way around. The Dark Ages and Hellinistic thought was being used to negate that Christianity has its own knowledge about the mind and body divide.

The original point was about how religious belief and Christianity inparticular does not need a lesson in the idea of mind and body. That its a human inclination to believe such things and that Christianity as far as Christians are concern hold the truth to the mind and body divide.

So please if you are going to jump in then know the context. Otherwise you are going to make these false representations of what was going on.

Larniavc · 2025-12-14T05:53:49-0600

Aryeh Jay said:
BIDEN!!!!!!

IKR? The most Machiavellian dotard ever to exist.

Normandt · 2025-12-14T05:50:39-0600

Homily Monday, December 15 2025

Numbers 24:2-7, 15-17a

“Their king will rise higher.”

The king is the one of peace.

The dominion is that of Love, which contains joy and peace.

Matthew 21:23-27

“By what authority are you doing these things? And who gave you this authority?”

God’s authority does not enslave but sets humanity free.

Biblical texts: NAB-RE

Normand Thomas.

Larniavc · 2025-12-14T05:49:53-0600

Richard T said:
Perhaps the decisions to arrest and make a big deal of this was so that the firing for "just cause" would be certain? So it could have been money motivated by the boosters and university officials at Michigan. But yes, how better it would have been to show more mercy but perhaps there is more to come about this case in which he deserves everything they are doing.

It does seem odd that the ex rang their attorney before the police. But on reading this it just seems another example of American society just being a gruelling place to exist in.

Rescued One · 2025-12-14T05:48:18-0600

Everything is very difficult for me at my age. I just addressed my second card but can't walk to the maibox.

Larniavc · 2025-12-14T05:41:46-0600

How do these intellectual giants get to be part of the American ruling class?

Apple Sky · 2025-12-14T05:39:00-0600

I've spent many a Christmas in Spain & I just loved this Christmas song.

(In Spanish)
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stevevw · 2025-12-14T05:37:35-0600

Stopped_lurking said:
If it is good science is to be determined by the their peers.

Your not understanding. If there was such a paper that proposed say that ancient Egyptians gained knowledge of chemistry and physics through their belief and conscious experiences. It would not get past the front door in the first place. You will have to go to alternative journals within philosophy or metaphysics to get such an idea published.

We are talking about two different things. One is the science in chemistry and physics for example. That can be tested and hypothesised within a certain method and paradigm. The quantifying sciences.

But apart from the tests and articles which I think were in journals already on the casting of stones and the potential energy in the pyramids this is ongoing. I think this is enough in the meantime to declare its not a conspiracy or psuedoscience.

Stopped_lurking said:
To determine that I would need to test the hypotheses against each other.

If you see a melted of softened stone or one thats vitrified that your left with whether it was naturally formed or man made. When you see vitrified stones in caves or where only the works are vitrified and the surrounding natural stones are not you can begin to make some findings.

Its all the lines of evidence that are mounted together and the common practices and examples that build the case. By looking at all this we can make some conclusion. When tests then back this up with peered revied or not they cannot be dismissed.

Therefore you already have evidence you can deal with and offer your explanation as to why this is not human made changes to stone.

Stopped_lurking said:
First we would have to look at the supposedly vitrified stone, to make sure it actually is vitrified stone.

Already done this and it was ignored. If people cannot first even acknowledge the images and that they need to be examined and determined then its not going to work.

First acknowledge that the examples at least look vitrified and we need to look further. Just like the many machine cuts that were exampled and ignored. Just admit they look like machine cuts and not like the orthodox method could produce them. Then we can take the next step to see if this is the case. But if the obvious observations are dinissed in the first place then how can we even find that out.

Stopped_lurking said:
Then we have to make sure that the vitrification isn't the effect of some other process such as a lightning strike

Yes and yet some have declared that it was the result of natural occurrances without evidence. Thats the double standard.

I am quite open to any investigation. But you cannot do that if the examples are either fobbed off as naturalistic or not even acknowledged in the first place.

Stopped_lurking said:
I think that was me, mentioning that vitrification happens in nature from time to time due to lightning strikes and fires. That would have to be excluded as a possibility of at least be shown to be much less likely.

Actually it was not just you which shows how this is the standard orthodoxy and the first explanation always assumed by the material science worldview. Has to have a naturalistic explanation and anything else is unreal or deemed less credible.

In fact the naturalistic explanation was forced. That I was a fool for even suggestion something other than the naturalistic explanation. Thats dogma not science.

Stopped_lurking said:
Tell them to get it published.

Nah I am happy with the work so far. It doesn't need to be peered reviwed to be good science. In fact its a cop out to keep fobbing it off as not meeting some gatekeepers criteria.

Stopped_lurking said:
Because it is premature before the researchers have sat down and written their article detailing their findings and have it go through the process

They already have written the analysis for the tests. Do you think they do tests and make observations an dthen not write anything about this lol.

Stopped_lurking said:
I already know that you believe otherwise than me, that is not a problem.

It is a problem if we both take the position of just fobbing off what each other says without any explanation. Thats easy. Just say the opposite and give no reason. The discussion would breakdown in minutes and be going nowhere lol.

Stopped_lurking said:
It needs to be evaluated by subject matter experts.

The problem like I said is that this is all fairly knew. For example the casting of stones was hyothesised a few decades ago but it was then a fringe idea and dismissed. It took one scientists to relook in recent years to realised that no one had actually checked the work. When he did he found it had some merit.

The whole subject of alternative knowledge and tech had been rejected and pushed to the sides. Its only been with modern tech and more independent archeologists and researchers in the field now discovering obvious evidence that was ignored for decades.

So its still a case of pushing against the mainstream to even get this stuff acknowledged let alone be accepted in mainstream journals lol. In the meantime the best e=we have is the research, analysis and tests I have been presenting which is not yet up to the stage of being accepted. But if you keep rejecting it because it is yet to get to that stage then how can it ever get to that stage lol.

This is all there is and if you reject it theres nothing else. Not because there is no evidence but because there has been a bias about even accepting it in the first place. Which is the point of this thread ironically.

Stopped_lurking said:
No.

So you will accept say the testimony of the ancients themselves. When they tell you that they did not make these works and that they were made by people from the gods or by some other peoples with great knowledge like the gods.

Will you accept this evidence as just as relevant as the material sciences. Or do you treat this with less credibility to begin with. See to the ancients they would regard this experiential and lived reality over westernised material sciences as the source of true knowledge and reality.

Like Christians. When the westernised material science or naturalistic paradigm claims there is no evidence for God or spirituality they are deying the testimony of Christ, the diciples and all those Christians who pass this knowledge down. They say that material sciences is the illusion and that God is the truth and reality.

Can you see the giant difference in the worldview outlook as to what is classed as real knowledge and the source of real knowledge.

Stopped_lurking said:
If any process leaves an impact on the physical it can be studied.

Yes but this tells us nothing about what caused it or how the knowledge that created that physical impact was gained. Methologic al naturalism just describes what is happening. It offers no explanation of how or what the nature of that activity represents.

Like I said you could be describing something you have been programmed to percieve and describe. Just like a flea on an elephant may be describing what he thinks is the world and reality. Not knowing that there is a far greater reality beyond the elephant he is riding.

What is an electron. How is describing an electron tell us anything about whether nature or reliaty is fundementally physical or not. Or whether the ancients could not have understood the fundementals of electrons through their conscious experiences.

If Bohr is right and the electron displays rudimentary forms of consciousness. Then maybe this is the backdoor to a greater and deeper knowledge that the ancients discovered. You don't know and cannot dispute it because science cannot measure this. Its beyond science.

Stopped_lurking said:
I have read works by Edmund Husserl. But vitrification is amenable to optical investigations microscopically and chemical investigations.

Already done and I linked this for you.

Kathleen30 · 2025-12-14T05:20:02-0600

We

prodromos said:
Do you have any reason to believe we would do that based on past interactions on this forum? You are not giving us enough credit and are giving far too much to Apple Sky.

Well with all the accusations leveled at Apple in allegedly contreadicting herself in the AI overview post which was never the case and knowing what Apple believes she was merely showing the influences of freemasonry upon NASA. Didn’t mean she believed everything in the reference post . More so when we all know that she doesn't‘ believe in the moon landing. Yes I do from the AI post . And I say again from which some have made a mountain out of a mole hill . That is all

rockytopva · 2025-12-14T05:16:33-0600

The suspect, who was described as wearing dark clothing and estimated to be in his 30s, is still at large.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/brown-university-shooting-12-13-25

Richard T · 2025-12-14T05:15:52-0600

Seems like the rule applies to both democrats and the GOP alike. I do not see it as RINO. it is a conciliatory act to defer to the state's Senators. I am glad the experienced Senators kept the tradition.

Richard T · 2025-12-14T05:05:48-0600

I Imagine many of those folks are not legalistic but just wishing the widow to come out of grieving and do something that takes her mind off her husband's death. In general though you seem right on focusing on the true meaning of Christmas.

Bob Crowley · 2025-12-14T04:56:32-0600

I thought you were older than that!

Unless you have successive lines of forebears all using the same meme!

Aryeh Jay · 2025-12-14T04:55:45-0600

In other completely normal news, apparently the Trump administration is doing what every single other administration has done and is requesting immunity for war crimes from the International Criminal Court.

Richard T · 2025-12-14T04:52:33-0600

Michie said:
A Republican U.S. representative is sponsoring a bill that would require fathers to cover half of pregnancy-related costs for mothers carrying their children.

Rep. Ashley Hinson, R-Iowa, is sponsoring the Supporting Healthy Pregnancy Act, Fox News Digital reported.

The bill would require the father of a child to pay for at least half of out-of-pocket medical expenses involved with pregnancy and delivery. This would become a legal requirement only after the mother puts in a request.

Hinson said she is working to “expand access to maternal care” and to “ensure women have resources throughout pregnancy and beyond.”

Continued below.

Proposed U.S. law would require fathers to financially support pregnant moms

Here is a roundup of recent pro-life and abortion-related news.

www.catholicnewsagency.com

That is a good law. It will help mothers along and the dad needs to start being responsible since he will be paying for quite some time. Of course if the woman in wrong about the father, then all that money needs to be returned. Since some pregnancy expenses are quite large, I would hope that men at risk of getting someone pregnant have a chance to upgrade their health insurance to cover such an event.
The one negative I see here though is that some men may try to push the woman into an abortion even more to avoid the expenses.

Dan1988 · 2025-12-14T04:35:47-0600

RamiC said:
You said you could...post # 146 "I can give you a truckload of verses showing that those in the lake of fire are all tormented day and night for ever and ever."

That's right I could, but I won't because you wouldn't believe them. You must have already read them before and dismissed them so I'm not going to confront you with them again.

RamiC said:
You said you could...post # 146 "I can give you a truckload of verses showing that those in the lake of fire are all tormented day and night for ever and ever."

Dan1988 · 2025-12-14T04:29:00-0600

Studyman said:
What a fascinating and astonishing religious philosophy. Because I am told by God and His Son Jesus, to Seek Him, and I do, you preach to the world that I am contradicting Scripture, lying to you, and abusing scripture and that I don't believe God, because David said among men who say there is no God, "there is none that seek God".

When I show you David and Paul's actual words, you completely ignore them, refusing to even acknowledge they even exist .

And then you accuse me of Abusing Scripture and that I don't believe God.

It's OK that you do these things, Jesus said you would. I was just hoping for more of an actual discussion about what is written.

Now Wait a minute Dan, You have said over and over, "there is none that seek after God". When I point to Scriptures that show men who, like myself, have and continue to Seek God, to Seek His face, to Seek His Righteousness, you accuse me of "Abusing Scripture", of "Twisting Scripture", basically lying about both God and myself. And you accuse me of not believing God.

But now, all of the sudden, your preaching has changed. Now all the sudden, are were actually men that do seek God. Which is what the Scriptures I posted, that you called irrelevant, have said all along.

Fascinating.

I see, so in your religion, God just randomly picks men to seek Him, not by them humbling themselves, as the Scriptures teach, but by some secret Holy Lottery in which even though God tells all men to SEEK Him, He withholds the capacity to do so for many, based on nothing a man chooses. And of course HE chose you but apparently didn't choose me.

Imagine that.

I see, so the Bible, the Prophets, Jesus, the Apostles, all of the Scriptures are a lie in your religion? All Irrelevant in your religion. All the pleading with God to the people of the earth to turn to Him, to Seek Him, is all a deception, Hollywood, an illusion. All Jesus' teaching for men to "repent" and "come to Him, just an illusion because men have no choice, and never had a choice in the matter.

So then, according to what you call the "Facts" of your religion, Abraham's Righteousness and faith were given to Abraham by God, based on nothing Abraham chose to do or even wanted. While the same God withheld from the men of Sodom, the same Faith and the same Righteousness or the desire to have them. Then the same God destroyed the men of Sodom, "because" there was no one righteous among them.

What a Fascinating judgment against God. That HE tells men over and over and over and over in the Holy Scriptures, to turn to Him in repentance, but according to your religion, withholds from them the ability for them to do so. Then slaughtered them by the thousands when they refused to turn to Him in repentance.

While at the same time forcing others like Abraham, based on no choice they ever made or desire they ever exhibited, to turn to Him in repentance, promising to reward them with the gift of eternal life in paradise, "Because" they turned to Him in repentance.

Therefore, you have no need for scriptures, Jesus, the Prophets, God's Word, faith, righteousness, as you yourself declares, these things are all irrelevant in your religion, because God does it all for you. But withholds the same for me.

Because You hit the Holy Lottery, and I didn't.

What an astonishing and fascinating religion. And a great one for those like you who hit the Holy lotto.

Not so great for the rest of us, who believe what is actually written..

No, that is just another of your many misrepresentations of both my words and Gods. I am not, nor can you find even one word in any of my posts, where I am proposing that I resurrected myself. You know this, and yet you still promote the falsehood. This shows more about your heart, than mine. Nevertheless, to address what you said, I was Spiritually dead, not physically. What you refuse to accept, and no doubt will refuse to even discuss, is that God is a Spirit, and therefore I, who was dead spiritually, not physically, can hear Him.

The Spirit of God tells all the Spiritually Dead, from Abel and Abraham to Paul and me, " To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation."

The teaching you are promoting, that God tells those who are spiritually dead in trespasses and sins, "To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.", but then hardens their heart so they cannot do as His Voice instructs, and then punishes them with everlasting destruction, "Because" their heart was hardened by no choice of theirs, is an evil and wicked judgment against God.

I will not join you in this astonishing and false religious judgment against God.

Given you have exalted yourself as a Judge against God, accusing Him of all manner of wickedness and injustice, it is no surprise that you would also make such judgments against me.

This is actually an honor for me, and a signal from the Christ "of the Bible", that I am on the right tract.

Nevertheless, there is a point in which I am instructed to shake the dust. I have reached that point. I hope that you might consider what the Scriptures actually teach about these things, even if it is in the privacy of your own home, just you and God. But there is no edification for anyone to continue in this manner of discourse.

So long.

I get the sense that your not interested in what the truth of the matter is. You seem to be more interested in defending your religious denomination, then defending the truth of the gospel.

God said that none seek after Him, and you just can't accept that He said that, even after I showed you the verse several times.

The only reason I can think of why you reject the scripture, is because you don't believe that mankind inherited death from Adam. You seem to think that carnal, spiritually dead men can fabricate faith, repentance and create a new righteous spirit for themselves.

All of the scriptures you cited, spoke about regenerated, converted people. None of them chose to obey the gospel, while they were still dead. God had to quicken them to life and give them the gift of faith, the gift of repentance and everything else that pertains to salvation. The only thing they contributed were filthy rags and a stinking corpse.

All of the exhortations to seeks out Gods will and to seek to obey Him, were for people who are already saved. You probably don't believe that anyone is saved until they reach the end of their life and then their good deeds will be weighed against their evil deeds.

The scripture I quoted described the whole of mankind in their natural sate, meaning everyone is born with a sin nature which makes them think that seeking God is foolish, and serving Him even more ridiculous, so they would never find it within themselves to repent.

Your theology is alien to me, it just doesn't line up with any of the doctrines I find in the bible.

BPPLEE · 2025-12-14T04:24:27-0600

Pommer said:
I’m fairly certain that Muslims believe that Yahweh and Allah are the same Being.
Whatever it is that you, personally, know about the subject, you might not be…correct, based on the fact we’re talking about how other people believe.

What they believe has no bearing on what I believe

Richard T · 2025-12-14T04:23:35-0600

We live in a tech age, where tech seems to be even bigger than God. Charlie Kirk was a great influencer but he did not fit in that narrative. Neither did the American Pope who one could also argue as man of the year. In a sense it shows the pride of the USA, the focus is not on God and not religious people. It seems likely that after focusing on money and tech, that a lesson on humility may be next depending on what happens to American in 2026.

Bob Crowley · 2025-12-14T04:08:55-0600

Some more details have emerged.

Breaking: Ten people, including one shooter, dead after Bondi Beach attack

Ten people, including one shooter, have been killed in an attack at Sydney's Bondi Beach, NSW Police have confirmed.

www.abc.net.au

mindlight · 2025-12-14T03:50:42-0600

Hans Blaster said:
Of course not, the USA has not bananas, nor is it in Africa. (Banana republics are in Central America and fruit companies no longer control any nations.

Both Hawaii and Florida grow bananas. Banana republic was a term that originated in Central America but it has been applied to African countries also e.g. Central African Republic and South Africa were both referred to as such.

The main point here is about gerrymandering and manipulations of the system to ensure the incumbent stays in power. I doubt if you disagree with that vis a vis Trump.

Factotum · 2025-12-14T03:16:32-0600

RocksInMyHead said:
...the criminality concepts might be similar...

Yes, I agree with that. As it is the sole point I was trying to make... that Tish likely sat up, imagined that Trump might be committing the same bank criminality she's been committing for decades, created a campaign around the goal of prosecuting him, then... charged him, just like she promised to if she won.

Just a reprehensible and corrupt woman.

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