RDKirk said:

First, did such a thing even happen? I want to see named testimonies.

Second, if it did happen, did Hegseth actually give such an order? I don't believe for a moment that Pentagon lawyers would let "Kill everybody" go down the chain. OTOH, Hegseth loves to put everyone on chat during military operations, so he could have said that directly to the operational unit. Or the order may have been something ambiguous like, "It's not required to take prisoners," and someone lower down interpreted that as "kill everybody."

But, if it did happen, everyone in the operational unit (I've heard it was a SEAL team) has had Law of Armed Conflict training, so every individual knew such a thing was illegal. What does that mean?

Well, in the Vietnam case of Lt William Calley, the enlisted troops were not convicted of war crimes. Investigation showed that Calley (as an officer) had gotten training in the Geneva Conventions...but the enlisted troops had not gotten specific training. In the military, ignorance of the law is a positive defense. So, in the 70s, the military made absolutely certain nobody in uniform could any longer claim ignorance, hence the creation of annual Law of Armed Conflict training mandatory for everybody.

And the DoD is serious about that. In my last assignment, I was superintendent of the training facility for STRATCOM, a joint command. We trained all the services, and my general was dead on my butt every day until each individual was signed off on their LOAC training each year because the Pentagon was dead on her butt about it. I was in front of her desk every day handing her the numbers and names of those who hadn't taken it yet.

I say all that to point out that everyone in the operational unit knew it's illegal to strafe survivors in the water. What they know will be held against them.

If it actually happened.

Of course, Trump will probably pardon them anyway.

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Landon Caeli said:

Why do you guys get to decide the topic of my thread?

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BCP1928 said:

No, that myth was definitely made up buy the right, and being promoted by right-wing garbage factories like Hillsdale 'College and Prager U.

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FAITH-IN-HIM said:

Your argument goes like this: I read the Book of Job, and the Holy Spirit gives me the understanding that it is accurate; you read the same book, and the Holy Spirit guides you to believe it's inaccurate.

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FAITH-IN-HIM said:

Someone else reads the Book of Isaiah, and the Holy Spirit leads them to think Isaiah was never a prophet, while another person reads the book and feels guided by the Holy Spirit to believe what the prophet Isaiah wrote about the birth of Jesus is true. Is this how the Holy Spirit guides each of us?

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durangodawood said:

Officially at war. Never.

Actually at war.... you could be right. I mean, what are these current attacks? Law enforcement? I dont think so

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Valletta said:

The four years of fraud, the election interference including collusion between the executive branch and social media to defeat Trump, as well as collusion by the courts, the flooding of our nation with 10 to 20 million immigrants who were largely unvetted, the defund the police movement, and the woke policies caused the people to vote for a widely disliked and abrasive presidential candidate. Human trafficking reached a level in our country not seen since the Civil War. The Democratic Party is deeply fractured, with radical leaders in charge but a part of the base that does not believe in the promulgated policies. I am convinced that locating the hundreds of thousands of missing children, jailing criminals and deporting violent illegal criminals, stopping the crazy pork filled spending bills of Democrats, letting the parents decide about transitioning and what their children are taught in school rather than the state, stopping government sponsored drag queen shows for our children, curbing the runaway inflation, and supporting our law enforcement officers and military, that is, keeping the promises made, are essential to our future. Giving in to the authoritarians who will decide what kind of oven you use and what car you drive and what your child will be taught in school and what pronouns you must use and putting men in girls locker rooms will be the end of our nation.

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Oompa Loompa said:

Okay. So we strip mine the planet for rare earth minerals and create millions of tons of toxic waste to manufacture and dispose of solar panels and batteries in hopes that we may lower carbon emissions by a fraction of percent while other countries increase theirs.

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Dan Perez said:

Hi Dave and just asking. as I do not have many Dispensational , Per-Mil and PRE- Mil. response here are you. DIOSPENSATIONAL. ?

Just ready to lay down and you a long list , see you. MONDAY .

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"That it “remains forever” indicates the temporal universality of the kingdom ([Daniel] 7:14), just as the mountain that “filled the whole earth” represents its spatial universality. The term “forever” elevates the kingdom from the temporal to the eternal. The time of world empires is coming to an end, and the timeless kingdom that has no end is coming. Each of the world empires was replaced by its successor, but this kingdom will have no successor."

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WHO IS GOD'S TRUE ISRAEL AND CHURCH? (Part 1/2)

ISRAEL (God’s new name given to Jacob) had 12 sons which make up the 12 tribes of ISRAEL

GENESIS 35:22-26 [22], ... Now the sons of Jacob were twelve: [23], The sons of Leah; Reuben, Jacob's firstborn, and Simeon, and Levi, and Judah, and Issachar, and Zebulun: [24], The sons of Rachel; Joseph, and Benjamin: [25], And the sons of Bilhah, Rachel's handmaid; Dan, and Naphtali: [26], And the sons of Zilpah, Leah's handmaid; Gad, and Asher: these are the sons of Jacob, who were born to him in Paddanaram.

God’s promise of the NEW COVENANT is to ISRAEL…

JEREMIAH 31:31-34 [31], Behold, the days come, says the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: [32], Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; my covenant which they broke, although I was a husband unto them, says the LORD: [33], But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, says the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. [34], And they shall teach no more every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, says the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

144, 000 Come out of the 12 tribes of ISRAEL…

REVELATION 7:3-8 [3], Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads. [4], And I heard the number of them who were sealed: and there were sealed a hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. [5], Of the tribe of Judah were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand. [6], Of the tribe of Asher were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Naphtali were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasseh were sealed twelve thousand. [7], Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand. [8], Of the tribe of Zebulun were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.

Now we have shown the origin of the name ISRAEL let's look at the scripture in detail in the NEW TESTAMENT scripture to see who God's ISRAEL is...

EPHESIANS 2:11-13 [11], Why remember, that you being in TIME PAST Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

[12], That AT THAT TIME [in the Past] YOU WERE WITHOUT CHRIST, BEING ALIENS FROM THE COMMONWEALTH OF ISRAEL, STRANGERS FROM THE COVENANT OF PROMISE, HAVING NO HOPE, AND WITHOUT GOD IN THE WORLD: [13], BUT NOW IN CHRIST JESUS, YOU WHO WERE FAR OFF ARE MADE NEAR BY THE BLOOD OF CHRIST.

GALATIANS 3:28-29 [28], THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: FOR YOU ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS AND IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN YOU ARE ABRAHAM'S SEED FOR YOU ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS [29], and IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN ARE YOU ABRAHAM'S SEED, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE.

God's true ISRAEL in the NEW COVENANT are not by name only but all those in Christ. Those of the FLESH (sinful human nature) are not Abrahams seed but those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God in Christ are God's ISRAEL...

ROMANS 9:6-8 [6], FOR THEY ARE NOT ALL ISRAEL WHICH ARE OF ISRAEL,: [7], NEITHER, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SEED OF ABRAHAM, ARE THEY ALL CHILDREN: but in Isaac shall thy seed be called <Christ> [8], That is, THEY WHICH ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE FLESH, THESE ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: BUT THE CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE <those who believe> ARE COUNTED FOR THE SEED.

God's ISRAEL are all those in CHRIST that have been given a NEW HEART according to the NEW COVENANT promise...

ROMANS 2:28-29 [28], FOR HE IS NOT A JEW WHICH IS ONE OUTWARDLY; NEITHER IS THAT CIRCUMCISION, WHICH IS OUTWARDS IN THE FLESH: [29], BUT HE IS A JEW WHICH IS ONE INWARDLY; and CIRCUMCISION IS OF THE HEART, IN THE SPIRIT, AND NOT IN THE LETTER; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

In the NEW COVENANT all those in Christ are are God's ISRAEL...

COLOSSIANS 3:11 [11], WHERE THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: BUT CHRIST IS ALL IN ALL.

ROMANS 10:11-13 [11], For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. [12], FOR THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JEW OR GREEK: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. [13], FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED.

The New Covenant is for God's Israel...

EZEKIEL 36:26-27 [26], A NEW HEART WILL I GIVE YOU, AND A NEW SPIRIT WILL I PUT WITHIN YOU; AND I WILL TAKE AWAY THE STONY HEART OUT OF YOUR FLESH, AND GIVE YOU A HEART OF FLESH. [27], AND I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT WITHIN YOU, AND CAUSE YOU TO WALK IN MY STATUTES AND YOU SHALL KEEP MY JUDGEMENTS AND DO THEM.

and again...

JEREMIAH 31:33-34 [33], BUT THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL; After those days, says the LORD, I WILL PUT MY LAW IN THEIR INWARD PARTS,AND WRITE IT IN THEIR HEARTS; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. [34], And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, says the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Paul proclaims it here...

HEBREWS 8:10-12 [10], BUT THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL; After those days, says the LORD, I WILL PUT MY LAW IN THEIR INWARD PARTS, AND WRITE IT IN THEIR HEARTS; and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: [11], And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. [12], For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

The NEW COVENANT is for GOD'S ISRAEL which represent those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God’s WORD.

If you are not part of GOD'S ISRAEL then you are not a part of the NEW COVENANT (Hebrews 8:10-12).

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CONCLUSION: God's ISRAEL is the name given by God to all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. GENTILES are now grafted in. If you are not a part of the God's ISRAEL then you have no part in the NEW COVENANT. GOD'S ISRAEL ARE ALL THOSE WHO BELIEVE AND FOLLOW GOD'S WORD (The Church)

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Question; What are your thoughts? Is God's true ISRAEL the Church?

God bless..

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Wolseley said:

The Islamic Caliphate of Britainistan (formerly known as the United Kingdom) is a cautionary tale for all of us.

I figure I have about fifteen, maybe twenty years left before I kick the bucket, so hopefully, I will be dead and gone before America falls.....and if anybody's been keeping up with the attitudes, beliefs, agendas, and voting patters of the under-30 population in this country, fall it will.


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ENGLAND FELL WITHOUT A SHOT.
AMERICA’S TROJAN HORSE IS ALREADY INSIDE.

You’re looking at a country that doesn’t exist anymore.
This is the postcard in your head.

England didn’t fall with tanks and smoke.
It fell with silence.

You probably still think the England in your head is real.
The postcards in your mind? They’re gone.
The photos in your camera roll are out of date.

Let me show you what changed… and why every American should be paying attention in 2025.
Look at the little horse in the reflection on that London street.
That isn’t an editing trick.
That’s the Trojan Horse every American is pretending not to see.

I want to take you somewhere gentle first —
somewhere millions of Americans have walked or always dreamed of walking.

England.

Not the England of today’s headlines.
The England you remember.
The England in movies.
The England you imagined as a kid.

I lived there during the fall of my senior year of college.
And I can still feel it.

The smell of rain soaking into old stone.
Black cabs sliding over wet cobblestones.
The ding of a double-decker bus pulling to a stop.
Real accents — Cockney, Midlands, Yorkshire — drifting through the air like a soundtrack.

If you’ve ever wandered London, even once, you know exactly what I mean.

Big Ben rising over the Thames like a cathedral tower.
The Changing of the Guard — boots hitting pavement in perfect time.
Red phone booths so iconic they looked painted onto the street.
Fish and chips wrapped in paper, vinegar sharp in the air.

That was England.
Calm. Ordered. Civil.
A place where history wasn’t something you read —
it was something you walked on.

I studied Shakespeare in Stratford-upon-Avon.
I’d sit by the River Avon watching swans glide under willow trees older than our country.
I’d grab a ploughman’s lunch — thick bread, sharp cheddar, Branston pickle — the taste of the countryside in one bite.

Everywhere you went, the country knew who it was.
Quietly. Proudly. Confidently.

The problem was simple:
England had too many manners and not enough nerve.
It was so careful not to offend that it forgot how to defend.

That was the England I lived in.
That was the England millions of Americans believed still existed.

But the country you loved has been quietly swapped out while you were busy being told not to notice.

Here’s the truth — simple, final, unavoidable:

That England is gone.
Gone forever.
And it’s not coming back.

If you still believe that kind of loss can’t happen where you live, you’re already behind.
If you have kids or grandkids, their America will not look like yours unless you learn from what England did to itself.

America in 2025 isn’t the America of the 1950s.
Cities grow. Cultures mix. Generations shift.
But what happened in England wasn’t drift —
it was direction.

A direction written in government numbers before anyone dared say it out loud.

According to the UK’s Office for National Statistics, the early 2000s showed two trends colliding:
declining birthrates among longtime British families…
and sharply higher birthrates in newer communities.

At the same time, official data recorded net migration at levels never seen in modern British history —
year after year, stack after stack.

This wasn’t rumor.
This wasn’t theory.
It was their own math, in their own reports.

Math doesn’t care about politics.
Birthrates don’t care about feelings.
Demographics don’t ask permission.

Then came another shift.

In 2016, a government-commissioned investigation — the Casey Review — confirmed that Sharia councils were operating in parts of England, handling civil and family matters outside British courts.
Not a headline.
Not an opinion.
A government finding.

Police officers admitted — quietly — that they changed tactics in certain neighborhoods.
Not official “no-go zones.”
Just unofficial hesitation.
A sign the old authority no longer moved with confidence.

Call it “respect.”
Call it “sensitivity.”
On the ground, it felt like one group playing by different rules while everyone else was told to keep clapping.

England didn’t collapse in a single moment.
It faded in a million tiny silences —
every time someone noticed a change, felt uneasy, and told themselves not to say anything.

And one morning, without a single shot fired, the truth was unavoidable:

The England that stood for centuries had disappeared —
not conquered, not invaded…
but surrendered by silence.

A country that wouldn’t stop apologizing eventually forgot who it was and what it was apologizing for.
And when people finally asked, “When did this change?” the answer was simple:

While you were busy calling each other names online.

That’s how nations fall now.
Not with tanks.
Not with fighter jets.
But with Trojan Horses rolled through the gates while everyone whispers that nothing is happening.

And here’s why this matters to every American reading this:

If you want to see England’s future in miniature, you don’t need a passport.
You only need to drive to Dearborn, Michigan.

Recent census data show Arab Americans are now the majority in Dearborn, making it the first Arab-majority city in the United States.

America isn’t approaching England’s doorway.
We’re standing in it.
And the Trojan Horse isn’t approaching —
it’s already in the living room.

If you’ve watched your own town change like this — in your schools, your hospital, your streets — drop your city in the comments. America needs to see the map.

Part One is the memory.
Part Two is the blueprint — the laws, the votes, the policies that flipped England from postcard to warning label.
Part Three is Dearborn — the test case every honest American should study.

Nations aren’t losing wars on battlefields anymore.
They’re losing them in comment sections and quiet living rooms.

If someone you love still says,
“It can’t happen here,”
hit share and put this in their feed before Part Two drops.

Because it can…. And it's already started.

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Danthemailman said:

Criminals have become emboldened and even seem to have an entitlement mentality, thanks to soft on crime policies, particularly in blue states.

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rambot said:

How can that be?

I've heard socialism is the one with poverty; capitalism has none?

Or maybe it's that wealth is getting highly centralized and not flowing through the system and down to the workers very well. There is no incentive to work because PAY is poor. And if you are going to work HARD and be poor, you may as well be just as poor and not work.

The solution is wage increases.

But for some CRAZY reason, nobody complains about the private sector; just the government.

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Hans Blaster said:

No one. It evolves naturally.

The US absolutely was not. I can't say about the other nations, and frankly I don't care.

Simple reality is beyond your comprehension? Perhaps you should stick to Aussie politics. Your understanding of US politics and history is extremely poor.

The US government does not regulate belief and nothing in that paragraph even argues counter to that. To use your example of abortion, changing the legal status one direction or the other does not change the *beliefs* people have about it. There were major changes a couple years ago and my belief didn't change.

No wonder you think it is a strange mix, you are mixing things up in your head.

It is still back and forth between some stream or strength of left and of right.

The Christian Right declared war on American culture a few decades ago.

I'm not interested in your persecution complex projection. This is pathetic Steve, you are projecting your self into persecution in a country where you don't live and there is no such persecution. Here in the US we have entered a month-long season dominated by a Christian religious claim. That isn't anti-Christian persecution. Not in the slightest.

Too bad.

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Lady Bug said:

Whether or not the hymn is cliche for the Advent season, it never fails to move me. I love it

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Lost4words said:

I used to believe in an old Earth. Not too sure now...

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DamianWarS said:

Exodus has unfolding covenant events, with the 10 the first is in Ex 24

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Then [Moses] took the Book of the Covenant and read it to the people. They responded, “We will do everything the Lord has said; we will obey.” Moses then took the blood, sprinkled it on the people and said, “This is the blood of the covenant that the Lord has made with you in accordance with all these words.”

The covenant was already established (clearly as there was a book of the covenant) but there are key points where the covenant relationship is affirmed and marked with ceremony and this is one of them. This is before the tablets, but the 10 were revealed already in Ex 20 along with a host of other commandments from 20-23. This event acts as a covenant bond as other events do to as well. As it pertains to Exodus, these are not different covenants, they are all the same covenant but they are reaffairmed. This is not unusual and the same thing happens in Genesis with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, there are multiple covenant moments. With Exodus they indeed include the 10 but are not limited to the 10. You are choosing only to see a very limited meaning from a limited context but it is not the full picture. I would suggest to read Exodus from the beginning and try and trace the language and event for the covenant relationship established but you can't hide the fact the 10 are presented in Ex 20 along with a host of other commandments in 21, 22, and 23 then there is a covenant ceremony that bind them to these commandments.


Yes, Jot is the name of a letter and has nothing to do with the medium used. But the reference Jesus uses is for the smallest features (jots and tittles). In Aramaic square script the Jot is the smallest letter so this makes sense. There are also letters that look near identical except for the smallest addition of a tittle. Jots and tittles are important features in Aramaic square script

In Paleo Hebrew is it not the same, and jots as a small feature is simply not true not does it make sense to highlight a jot. The scrolls of the Torah were written in Aramaic square script (because they were not the originals) but the tablets in Paleo Hebrew (because they were the originals) so in order for this expression to make sense, Christ would be referencing the scrolls of the Torah (and prophets) to which was available when he spoke it as there was a lot of tiny Jots and tittles in it.

The tittles are not a reference to ink itself, they are characteristics of a stroke. As it pertains to writing strokes are not how engraving work, they are not through strokes but through etchings. A stroke could be with a brush, pen, quill, pencil, and yes a finger could qualify. As I mention this doesn't limit God using strokes on the 10 since a finger can produces a stroke (but a chisel can't) but the audience Jesus was speaking to would relate a tittle to a stroke that you would see on a scroll (if that was ink or paint or something else I don't know)


It depends on what you ask ChatGPT. Tittles are not ink but do suggest charterisrics consistent with the Assyrian script (which was more modern and better adapted for handwriting) over Paleo Hebrew which has a primitive form, blocky and less stylistic or expressive for handwriting however it is easy to see how well it could be used on stone. Given the choice I would much rather etch paleo Hebrew in stone over modern

Conceptually Jesus wasn't highlighting the the scrolls or the 10 uniquely even if the imagery would lend itself to the scrolls. It's an expression he uses to put value on the entire law which would contrast how the pharaisees would teach and emphasize aspects, even adding to it but fail to obverse other parts like how Jesus calls them out in Mat 15. Mat 15 is more pointed but this expression in Mat 5 has similar value calling out pharisaical hypocrisy as he was clearly addressing who "teaches others accordingly". In our western abstract minds this mean everyone, but in Christ's day it would carry a more weighty direction to those who held teaching offices.

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DaisyDay said:

Obviously you read the OP as you wrote it, so you know that DeSantis chose Berkley as the counterpart to his vision of what a university should be. BYU seems totally irrelevant to this dilemma.

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DaisyDay said:

How would it be like that? Both Berkley UC and New College are state universities. New College had been respected until it got taken over and revamped to be what it is now. It's not just some bad private for-profit school but a creature of DeSantis' own making - or unmaking.

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JohnClay said:

Well I didn't understand what it was saying. I think people would sometimes refer to a Bible commentary. I don't think it is a passage that has an obvious meaning. I liked how the AI explained that two of the passages are basically saying opposite things. I never would have realised that. Also I don't enjoy trying to make sense of hard to understand passages for myself.
I disagree that I can do better than Copilot. It can summarise all of the theological content on the internet and also clarify anything if I want it to. It can tell me the for and against arguments for anything theological.

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JohnClay said:

Is it saying that those in the Old Testament will be raised at the end times and all be judged by Jesus? (based on a couple of the words)

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Leviticus 19:34 (NIV):

"The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God."

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Numbers 15:15-16 (NIV)

"The community is to have the same rules for you and for the foreigner residing among you, a lasting ordinance for the generations to come. You and the foreigner shall be the same before the Lord: The same law and the same regulations will apply both to you and to the foreigner residing among you.”

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