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Heating up down under

How bad do you want it? Bad enough for people to freeze in the dark?
More stonewalling. Who is going to freeze in the dark?
A "modernized" electric grid: that consists of what? I can pretty much guarantee that the grid in 2025 is not the grid that existed in 1925.
Parts of it are.
What exactly is this "modernization" that you want?
Is that what the problem is? Are you so fond of our current electrical grid that you don't want to see it updated?
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The law, the commandments, and Christians.

God made many promises to different people in scripture.

It does not mean you are entitled to ALL of them

Otherwise, you might as well conclude that, since "Christ confirmed the promises", I will be like Abraham and father many nations.
It makes no difference to be the father of many nations or to have that one as your father, all in the kingdom of heaven are together, the others are thrust out.


Matthew 8:10 When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.
11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
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Is AI making the human race dumber?

On the one hand it seems dangerous to me to be developing technology that could destroy us all, on the other hand, we have already got Hydrogen Bombs, but I might feel a bit safer if we at least did not have AI, mentally ill AI, and H-bombs.

I get the impression that computer scientists couldn't care less about what other scientists think about their inventions.

Until I came here and started hearing academians talk, I was under the impression all scientists were required to respect each other's work, as long as it passed peer review.

Then I saw this cartoon:

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... and all that changed.

Another thing I noticed is that scientists make some kind of "I know more than you do" game with other countries by displaying rankings of who's on top.

This AI stuff shows me that computer scientists are willing to thumb their noses at what their comrades in whitecoats think.

Scientists are too busy biting and devouring one another to really take an interest in this planet at all.

Let alone the things of God.
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Is President Trump Corrupt? Three Stories.

The Republicans who investigated all 14,000 pages of bank records couldn't find anything illegitimate at all, which is why Biden was never impeached.
The question was what LEGITIMATE service did Biden provide for the millions from Ukraine and China.
You should stop trying to felon. Biden with false accusations. He's a far better man and President than Trump the felon.
Yes Trump was convicted in a kangaroo court by a soon to be felon prosecutor. The hunted has now become the hunter! Enjoy the karma display.
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DID ANYTHING JESUS SPOKE TO ISRAEL SAVE THEM, OR IS IT ONLY WHAT JESUS DID, THAT SAVES THEM, IF THEY BELIEVED IN CHRIST CRUCIFIED?

Deuteronomy 32:44 And Moses came and spake all the words of this song in the ears of the people, he, and Hoshea the son of Nun.
45 And Moses made an end of speaking all these words to all Israel:
46 And he said unto them, Set your hearts unto all the words which I testify among you this day, which ye shall command your children to observe to do, all the words of this law.
47 For it is not a vain thing for you; because it is your life: and through this thing ye shall prolong your days in the land, whither ye go over Jordan to possess it.

2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
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Criminal Illegal Alien Who Offered $10,000 Bounties to Murder ICE Agents Arrested in Dallas, TX

You sure about that?

Aguilar entered the U.S. illegally in 2018 as an unaccompanied minor. On February 8, 2019, an immigration judge issued him a final order of removal. His criminal history in the U.S. includes charges for violating liquor laws.
And now hes in trouble for wanting to kill federal agents. Thats quite a leap feom liquor law violations to proposing killing federal agents. I wonder what else he had been up to.

Sounds like he should have been deported a while ago..
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The law of his God is in his heart; none of his steps shall slide.

A BODY YOU HAVE PREPARED ME.

FOR THE DAY OF THE LORD IS AT HAND; FOR THE LORD HAS PREPARED A SACRIFICE AND BID HIS GUESTS.

MY EYES HAVE SEEN YOUR SALVATION WHICH YOU HAVE PREPARED BEFORE THE FACE OF ALL PEOPLE.

A GREAT SUPPER AND BADE MANY. SENT HIS SERVANT AT SUPPER TIME TO SAY TO THEM THAT WERE BIDDEN, COME, FOR ALL THINGS ARE NOW READY. (A BODY YOU HAVE PREPARED ME/THE LORD HAS PREPARED A SACRIFICE, HE HAS BIDDEN HIS GUESTS.)

THE SERVANT CAME AND SHOWED HIS LORD THESE THINGS, THE MASTER OF THE HOUSE SAID GO AND BRING IN THE POOR, THE HALT, THE MAIMED AND THE BLIND, THE SERVANT SAID THERE IS YET ROOM, THE LORD SAID GO INTO THE HIGHWAYS AND HEDGES AND COMPEL THEM TO COME IN THAT MY HOUSE MAY BE FILLED.

THE LORD SAID, NONE OF THOSE WHO WERE BIDDEN SHALL TASTE OF HIS SUPPER.( EXCEPT YOU EAT THE FLESH OF THE SON OF MAN AND DRINK HIS BLOOD YOU HAVE NO LIFE IN YOU/A BODY YOU HAVE PREPARED ME/IN BURNT OFFERINGS AND SACRIFICES FOR SIN YOU HAVE HAD NO PLEASURE.)






Hebrews 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

Zephaniah 1:7 Hold thy peace at the presence of the Lord God: for the day of the Lord is at hand: for the Lord hath prepared a sacrifice, he hath bid his guests.

Luke 2:30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,
31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people;
32 A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.

Luke 14:16 Then said he unto him, A certain man made a great supper, and bade many:
17 And sent his servant at supper time to say to them that were bidden, Come; for all things are now ready.

Luke 14:21 So that servant came, and shewed his lord these things. Then the master of the house being angry said to his servant, Go out quickly into the streets and lanes of the city, and bring in hither the poor, and the maimed, and the halt, and the blind.
22 And the servant said, Lord, it is done as thou hast commanded, and yet there is room.
23 And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.
Luke 14:24 For I say unto you, That none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my supper.

John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.








A BODY YOU HVE PREPARED ME.

THE LORD HAS PREPARED A SACRIFICE, HE HAS BID HIS GUESTS.

A CERTAIN KING MADE A MARRIAGE FOR HIS SON, AND SENT HIS SERVANTS TO CALL THEM THAT WERE BIDDEN TO THE WEDDING, AND THEY WOLD NOT COME. HE SENT FORTH OTHER SERVANTS SAYNG, TELL THEM WHICH WERE BIDDEN, BEHOLD, I HAVE PREPARED MY DINNER. (OXEN AND FATLINGS ARE KILLED/A BODY YOU HAVE PREPARED ME/THE LORD HAS PREPARED A SACRIFICE AND HE HAS BID HIS GUESTS.) AND ALL THINGS ARE READY: COME UNTO THE MARRIAGE.

THEN HE SAID TO HIS SERVANTS,THE WEDDING IS READY, BUT THEY WHCH WERE BIDDEN WERE NOT WORTHY.

GO INTO THE HIGHWAYS, AS MANY AS YOU SHALL FIND BID TO THE MARRIAGE. THE SERVANTS WENT OUT INTO THE HIGHWAYS AND GATHERED TOGETHER, ALL AS MANY AS THEY FOUND, BOTH GOOD AND BAD AND THE WEDDING WAS READY WITH GUESTS.

THEN SHALL THE KING SAY TO THEM ON HIS RIGHT HAND, COME BLESSED OF MY FATHER, INHERIT THE KINGDOM PREPARED FOR YOU FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD. (A BODY YOU HAVE PREPARED ME, THE LAMB SLAIN FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD. Revelation 13:8. Hebrews 10:5. Luke 2:30-32.)

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, YOU CURSED, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:





Hebrews 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

Zephaniah 1:7 Hold thy peace at the presence of the Lord God: for the day of the Lord is at hand: for the Lord hath prepared a sacrifice, he hath bid his guests.

Matthew 22:2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,
3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.

Matthew 22:8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.

Matthew 25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:





ACCORDING TO ALL THE CURSES OF THE COVENANT THAT ARE WRITTEN IN THIS BOOK OF THE LAW

I saw IN THE RIGHT HAND OF HIM THAT SAT ON THE THRONE A BOOK WRITTEN WITHIN AND ON THE BACKSIDE, SEALED WITH SEVEN SEALS.

I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, WHO IS WORTHY TO OPEN THE BOOK, AND TO LOOSEN THE SEALS THEREOF?

And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.


I BEHELD AND LO IN THE MIDDLE OF THE THRONE STOOD A LAMB AS IT HAD BEEN SLAIN, (THE LAMB SLAIN FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD/A BODY YOU HAVE PREPARED ME/COME BLESSED OF MY FATHER RECEIVE THE KINGDOM PREPARED FOR YOU FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD/Depart from me, YOU CURSED, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels/according to all the curses of the covenant that are written in this book of the law.) having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

HE CAME AND TOOK THE BOOK OUT OF THE HAND OF HIM THAT SAT ON THE THRONE, WHEN HE HAD TAKEN THE BOOK THE FOUR BEASTS AND THE FOUR AND TWENTY ELDERS FELL DOWN BEFORE THE LAMB. THEY SANG A NEW SONG, THOU ART WORTHY TO TAKE THE BOOK AND TO OPEN THE SEALS THEREOF, FOR YOU WERE SLAIN AND HAVE REDEEMED US TO GOD BY YOUR BLOOD OUT OF EVERY KINDRED AND TONGUE AND PEOPLE AND NATION AND HAVE MAXDE US UNTO OUR GOD KINGS AND PRIESTS AND WE SHALL REIGN ON THE EARTH.

ALL UPON THE EARTH SHALL WORSHIP HIM (THE BEAST) WHOSE NAMES ARE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE OF THE LAMB SLAIN FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD.

BLESSED ARE THEY WHICH ARE CALLED UNTO THE MARRIAGE SUPPER OF THE LAMB, AND HE SAYS UNTO HIM, THESE ARE THE TRUE SAYINGS OF GOD.





Deuteronomy 29:21 And the Lord shall separate him unto evil out of all the tribes of Israel, according to all the curses of the covenant that are written in this book of the law:

Revelation 5:1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.
2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?

Revelation 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Revelation 19:9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
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Why you can't debate unbelievers into the Kingdom of God

From the article: "Jesus modeled that perfectly. He could dismantle the Pharisees’ logic with a single question, yet with sinners, He was tender."

On CF, we also have two audiences. In the "Christians Only" forum, the latter attitude and disposition obtains. In the open forums, as the Church Militant, the former attitude and dispositions obtains in opposing the unbelievers who "prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls". Many more read than post and some readers may be questioning their faith.
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The Vatican opens a Muslim prayer room, Sparking debate (article link)

Reports circulating in media outlets and on social media in October 2025 allege that the Vatican has opened a prayer room for Muslims in the Apostolic Library.

Claim: The Vatican Library has opened a prayer room for Muslims.

CNA finds: The library does allow Muslim scholars a room in which to pray while they are on site doing research in the Vatican’s extensive archives.

Breakdown: In mid-October 2025, sensational news coverage rocketed around internet media outlets and social media feeds: The Vatican is “allow[ing]” a “designated Muslim prayer room” in its Apostolic Library (National Review); the library has “add[ed] a Muslim prayer room” (The Dallas Express); the Vatican has “[set] up [a] dedicated Muslim prayer room at [the] heart of [the] pope’s 500-year-old library” (GB News); the Holy See has “open[ed]” a “Muslim prayer room in [the] Apostolic Library” (EuroWeekly News).

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Special Counsel Nominee with “Nazi Streak” Withdraws After Racist Texts Revealed

Good. All of them should be dismissed for these texts, and some have already been let go from major law firms in NYC.

On the other hand, Senator Sanders and several liberal Democrats have endorsed Graham Platner, who displays NAZI resemble symbols on his body.
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I got a chance to meet Michael Mahoney the apostle of our Lord Jesus Christ

I just hope that Dean Odle doesn't make a similar claim to Michael Mahoney's - the claim of being an apostle.
Sigh..... it looks like a lot of the errors a.s. has posted came from the VERY strange church/ dean odle..... sorry and sad to say.
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Weekly homilies

Thursday, October 23 2025

29th OT



Rm 6:19-23

"You are not under the law but under grace. (v. 14)"



We are God's friends.



Lk 12:49-53

Jesus said: "For from now on a household of five will be divided, three against two and two against three."



This division may seem like family tensions. These tensions do exist. But let us remember that Jesus is not talking about earthly things, but about the reality of heaven.



What does division have to do with heaven? Nothing. But this division is for us. What is the most important division? Cutting off evil and preserving what is of God: Love, joy, and peace.



Let us continue to distance ourselves from evil, from the past, and from the future. Let us live in peace, joy, and the in Love of God from now on.



Biblical texts: NAB-RE

Normand Thomas.
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Is Every Human Being Unique and Unrepeatable?

Are all human beings biologically identical, or, is each person distinct – one from another? Are there not many shared similarities in terms of biological traits – while each individual remains exclusively unique and unrepeatable?

Science attributes variation among living beings to (DNA), deoxyribonucleic acid: “a molecule that contains the genetic instructions used in the development and functioning of all living organisms. It is the very code that determines how cells behave, how they replicate, and how they interact with each other. Essentially, DNA acts as a set of instructions for building and maintaining your body.”[1]

And, although:

The human genome consists of approximately 3 billion base pairs of DNA. It is often said that all humans share about 99.9% of the same genetic code. This means that, despite the vast differences in appearance, behavior, and health among humans, the genetic makeup of all people is remarkably similar. Yet, the 0.1% of genetic variation is what makes each person uniquely themselves.
This small percentage of variation accounts for everything from your physical characteristics, such as eye color, height, and susceptibility to diseases, to more complex traits like your mental health, cognitive abilities, and even some aspects of personality. Though our genetic makeup is mostly shared, it is this 0.1% that drives the vast diversity we see in humanity.[2]
This fact alone, is nothing short of astonishing – that all humans share 99.9% of the same genetic code – and that 0.1% of genetic variation drives the vast diversity seen amongst humanity. To encounter such diversity within a 0.1% genetic variation, has to suggest that there is a God, a God who created all things and holds them in being: “‘Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.’”[3]

It is at conception (fertilization) that a new life is formed, with his, or her, own unique DNA, distinct from the DNA of Father and Mother:

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U.S. Releases Video of Attack on Semi-Submersible and Sends Survivors Home

It looks like she did to me, but you are free to clear up my confusion.
We're talking about two different people. I was referring to the person who brought it up to begin with
I replied to CCW;
Well someone, who is usually fairly liberal on most issues suggested that Americans should just stop buying drugs
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Leviticus 20, Charlie Kirk, and Homosexuality

God blessed the Sabbath and told man to keep it holy. But, there is more to the The Lord's rest than a day of no work.
Agreed. We are to rest from our work so we can keep the Sabbath day holy. Exo 20:8-11 its about a day turning off all the distractions of the world and focusing our attention on God Isa58:13 as the examples of Scripture though His word, prayer, helping others in need, and coming together as a family for worship Luke4:16 Acts 13:44 Acts 18:4 which continues in heaven Isa66:23
The 7th day is our eternal rest in the Lord Jesus Christ.(righteousness through faith, not works) People look at scripture and fail to see the Spiritual truth which lies with. Hidden from those who won't see.

So obeying God the way God said is "work" so therefore we should disobey God and people who look for Scripture and God's word as "Truth" Psa119:151 John17:17 to guide them Psa119:105 is really being deceived. And the Holy Spirit of Truth is leading people away from keeping God's commandments through love according to you instead of what Jesus said John14:15-18 I think we need to be careful of what some are teaching sadly even from the pulpits as Jesus warned Mat 24:5 Mark7:7-13 Mat5:19 Col2:8

God was giving man commands from the beginning.
Is this what you think Exo20:11 means?
Just as Paul tells us about Sarah and Hagar are allegories, so are others in Genesis. Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel...
What does this have to do with Exo20:11 there was no Sarah or Hagar at Creation. That story was a result of sin,. There is no Scripture that says we should use all Scripture as learning and correction, means it deletes the actual event.

At Creation God made everything according to His perfect plan before the fall. God does not change. Heb13:8. No one was breaking the Ten Commandments at Creation Exo20:1-17 and no one will be breaking them upon entrance back to the tree of life Rev22:14 we need a transformation now before He returns Rev22:11
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Who is on the Lords Side?

Why make such silly comments? Obviously He means - Spiritually.
Are you going to divide Jesus into parts now?

Jesus never left. So notions of some external physical return are a moot point.

The "REVEALING" of Jesus happens at the end, in full, IN US, His Temple.

And in fact He is already seated therein. Just tapping His fingers....biding His time.
Another unnecessary question. The Bible tells us it will be after the Millennium, when all sinfulness will be removed for Eternity.
So your millennium still has the devil and his messengers? Is this your position?

The devils are still here, still sinning in PEOPLE? Doesn't sound like much of a millennial reign does it?
Do you really think the Prophesies of the end times are just fables and won't actually happen?
I've already stated that thee end time is THEE END for the devil and his messengers.

I think it will be utterly fantastic myself. The GREAT TRIBULATION will transpire INTERNALLY, in us, when that separation transpires.
Revelation 5:13, refers to the Eternal state. Proved by -....for ever and ever.
For all of creation no less.

Welcome to my side of the fence
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