BPPLEE said:

So much for heredity and environment, at least the environment part. He was with the Son of God and saw all the miracles

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And on top of this, he experienced the love, virtue, and power that poured out from The Lord to those around Him. He knew The Lord Jesus was the Son of GOD and the prophesied one to come, but chose money instead.

He knew the truth and turned from it.

Oompa Loompa said:

Then he told her to not to continue with her sinful lifestyle and deny her the happiness she received having a relationship with her lover. Not very empathetic is it seeing how Jesus had the audacity to tell another person to change their sinful lifestyle instead of just accepting it. Am I right?

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I really don't understand this tack. If there are drug addicts, we encourage them to get clean. If there are starving people in Africa, we don't encourage them to get fed. We feed them. But now we don't.

HARK! said:

Central bank purchases have been the main driver of the sharp rise in gold prices, Struyven said. “Central banks are now buying roughly 80 tonnes per month. That is about five times faster than before 2022. Several important Asian and emerging market central banks are still underweight gold and have significant room to increase their reserves,” he explained. He expects central banks to continue buying at a rapid pace for the next three years, pushing gold prices even higher.

Growing expectations of additional US Federal Reserve rate cuts later this year have further supported the safe-haven demand for gold. Prices have also been buoyed by concerns over a possible US government shutdown.

Gold could hit $4,300 per ounce by end of 2026 driven by central bank purchases: Goldman Sachs - CNBC TV18

Central banks are driving gold prices higher, with purchases hitting record levels and supporting a rally that could take the metal above $4,000 per ounce by next year. Analysts say silver could also see gains if investors shift from gold, as geopolitical uncertainty and potential Fed rate cuts...

www.cnbctv18.com

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I don't care how much bling the bankers buy.

A New Dawn said:

John 6. Check that out.

You are creating a dichotomy where none exists. Of course election is from God’s perspective. He has not given us a list of those HE elected for salvation, but that doesn’t mean that God hasn’t selected people of HIS choice for salvation. And to add to this, God selected (for his own reasons) that hearing the gospel preached is how HE chooses to work in those HE chose. So of course we must be ready to share our hope of salvation with others.

Do you have a problem with God choosing Israel as his people? If not, I am confused as to why you would be so upset that God is continuing to choose whom He will for salvation.

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Excellent perspective. I like your analogy with Israel having been elected by God to be His people, leaving the Gentiles outside the covenant.

Uzziel

o_mlly said:

More word games?

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I thought that was your thing.

o_mlly said:

No, your and their idea of morality changed.

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Who else's ideas would there be but us apes?

o_mlly said:

The morality of direct abortions has not.

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So you claim.

o_mlly said:

Moral truths are outside the mutable thinking of human minds.

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This is precisely the thing I deny. Can you prove this claim or is this just an assertion?

o_mlly said:

So, Who can tell us the eternal moral truths?

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No one. That is the point.

ViaCrucis said:

When this administration targets political opponents and threatens violence, that's ok.

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Let’s talk about violence. Who is literally attacking ICE agents, murdering Charlie Kirk, and trying to kill Trump. This list could be much longer but the pattern is clear.

Obedient Obadiah

Always in His Presence said:

Just curious - Trumps was out incredibly fast and pasted all over - where is Comey's?

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Comey wasn't arrested.

Harriet Harris

Clare73 said:

You'll have to demonstrate, rather than just assert, how your post #38 or #39 refutes my idea in my post (#37) #40, following:

That is precisely what Ro 5:17 states, ". . .by the trespass of one man, death reigned through that one man,"

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Physical death reigned in mankind through the one, because he was cast out of Eden, being denied access to the Tree of Life. Spiritual death reigned in mankind through the one, because we inherited the sin nature. There is nothing in here but presumption to say that Adam's sin was imputed.

Clare73 said:

as does Ro 5:18-19 - "the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men. . .through the disobedience of one man, the many were made sinners."

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Condemnation came to all men because the sin nature was transmitted to Adam's progeny. The context of this has to do with people who have sinned, not infants who haven't sinned. Again, there is nothing in here but presumption to say that Adam's sin was imputed.

Clare73 said:

That is precisely what Ro 5:12-14 demonstrates. . .in
that they all died between Adam and Moses when there was no law to transgress/sin against to cause their death (Ro 5:14),
therefore, their death was caused by the imputation of Adam's sin (Ro 5:17), and
which was the pattern (Ro 5:14) for the imputation of Christ's righteousness (Ro 5:18-19).

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In regard to Rom. 5:12-14, here was my response that refutes your idea:
You are interpreting Paul's statement as "there was no law between Adam and Moses, therefore no transgression." But Paul has to mean something different than that, because there was certainly law, albeit not the law of Moses. Examples: Cain most certainly knew he had violated an unwritten (or unspoken) law "you shall not commit murder." If he thought he was innocent, he would not have lied to God saying he didn't know where Abel was. But he did lie, because he wanted to escape the impending judgment in violation of that moral principle. This is how we know there was law prior to Moses. Another example is when God said to Noah if a man sheds another man's blood (murder), his blood shall be shed (capital punishment). This is most certainly law before Moses. A 3rd example is God rained fire and brimstone on Sodom and Gomorrah because their sins stunk to high heaven. In this we can see there was most certainly law and transgression prior to Moses. Therefore Paul had to mean something different than what you claim.

Bro.T said:

Paul says in Romans 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. In other words if there is no law there is no sin. Sin is not imputed or no blame can be accredited to any person when there is no law. Now, let’s see what Sin is according to the Bible in I John 3:4 it states, "whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." So if the law was nailed to the cross that would mean its okay to use the Lords name in vain, put other gods before HIM, make graven images and bow before them, pollute the Sabbath day, steal, commit murder, commit adultery and bear false witness. If all these things are okay to commit, then we might as well throw the Bible out the back door and do what ever feels good to us.
We will see that Paul was in fact a law keeper and how he preached out of the Law and the Prophets.

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The law of God was never nailed to the cross. It is immutable and eternal (Matthew 5:17–18; Psalm 119:89). Yet we are no longer under its curse, for we are under Christ, who fulfilled the law in us (Romans 8:3–4; Galatians 3:13). God has given us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 15:57).


Are you suggesting that these are things you would like to do but refrain from doing in order to earn salvation, at least in part? No truly saved person desires to do such things (1 John 3:9). We walk after the Spirit (Romans 8:1, 4–5; Galatians 5:16). If salvation depended on our refraining from these behaviors, then we would live under the threat of eternal damnation, and fear would be our motivation (Romans 4:15). But because the law has been fulfilled in us by Christ, our motivation is love alone (2 Corinthians 5:14; 1 John 4:18–19).

Bro.T said:

Now let's begin by taking a look at both of the laws and how they worked together. We will see there were two laws given to Moses, they were the commandments and the sacrificial law. Watch how they worked together.

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I do not believe you have established that there were two laws from the biblical text. I don't think that you can because it is not there in the bible.

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And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a soul shall sin through ignorance against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which ought not to be done, and shall do against any of them: (Leviticus 4:1-2) The law in the scriptures above is the commandments.

Notice something else very important in these two scriptures. It states, "if a soul shall sin through ignorance." Notice that the scripture did not says on purpose. Why? There is no sacrifice for a sin that is committed willfully. Let's find out what was to be done if a person committed a sin against the Lord unintentionally. Let's skip down to the 27th verse and take a look at the second law (which is the sacrificial law).

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Almost all sins are committed willfully, and if one takes Christ’s Sermon on the Mount to heart, we realize that we sin far more than we are willing to admit (Matthew 5:21–22, 27–28, 48; Romans 3:23). That is why John reminded his flock, “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness” (1 John 1:9). Yet we cannot confess what we are unaware of.

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And if any one of the common people sin through ignorance, while he doeth somewhat against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which ought not to be done, and be guilty; Or if his sin, which he hath sinned, come to his knowledge: then he shall bring his offering, a kid of the goats, a female without blemish, for his sin which he hath sinned. And he shall lay his hand upon the head of the sin offering, and slay the sin offering in the place of the burnt offering. And the priest shall take of the blood thereof with his finger, and put it upon the horns of the altar of burnt offering, and shall pour out all the blood thereof at the bottom of the altar. (Leviticus 4:27-30)

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You do relize that we are under the new covenent. The New Covenant is God’s gracious promise, established through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, by which He forgives sins and writes His law on the hearts of His people. Unlike the Old Covenant, which was based on the law written on stone and mediated through continual sacrifices, the New Covenant is grounded in Christ’s once-for-all sacrifice and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Jeremiah foretold this covenant: “I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people… for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more” (Jeremiah 31:31–34; cf. Ezekiel 36:26–27).


Jesus declared that His blood was the seal of this New Covenant: “This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood” (Luke 22:20; cf. 1 Corinthians 11:25). Hebrews explains that Christ is the mediator of this covenant, which makes the old one obsolete (Hebrews 8:6–13; 9:15). In the New Covenant, God’s people are no longer under the condemnation of the law (Romans 8:1–4), but are empowered by the Spirit to walk in obedience, motivated not by fear but by love (2 Corinthians 3:6; Romans 5:5).

Bro.T said:

When the common people sinned through ignorance and it came to their knowledge, what did they have to do? They brought an offering, a kid of the goats, a female without blemish, for their sin which they had committed, then the priest would offer the animal to the Lord. Think about this for a moment. If an animal was killed for a person that committed sin, what will happen to us today if we a trespass against the Lord?

Now we see how the sacrificial law was used when a person broke a commandment unintentionally.

Let's go into Paul's writings and take another look at both of these laws. We will go into the Book of Galatians chapter 3. This is one of the chapters that the majority of Christian preachers use to do away with the Lord's commandments. Now, let's read carefully!

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You will have to take this up with preachers who preach that, just as I take up the issues of salvation by works with thise who teach that.

Bro.T said:

Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. (Galatians 3:19)

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And the seed has come.
1. “It was added because of transgressions”

Paul is explaining that the law was not the original plan for humanity’s relationship with God. The promise of God to Abraham (Genesis 12:1–3; 15:1–6) came before the law and was based on faith, not works. The law came later “because of transgressions,” meaning it was added to reveal sin, regulate behavior, and make people aware of their need for God’s grace (Romans 3:20; 5:20). It functions as a custodian, showing what is right and wrong until the Messiah comes.

2. “Until the offspring should come”

The law was temporary, in place only “until the offspring [Greek: sperma] should come.” Paul identifies this “offspring” as Christ (Galatians 3:16), the one in whom the promises to Abraham are fulfilled. Once Christ came, faith in Him—not adherence to the law—became the means of receiving the promised blessing of righteousness.

3. “Put in place through angels by a mediator”

This phrase likely reflects Jewish understanding of Sinai, where the law was given with heavenly involvement (Acts 7:53; Exodus 19:16–25) and mediated by Moses. Paul emphasizes that the law was given through a mediator, whereas the promise to Abraham was directly from God. This contrast highlights the superiority of the promise over the law and sets up his argument that justification comes by faith, not by works of the law.

Bro.T said:

Take heed to what Paul's says above, "Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions." What is transgression? Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. (I John 3:4) Transgression is braking of the commandments. What law was added because of the braking of the law? The sacrificial law! Paul is simply asking these Gentiles, "why perform the sacrificial law? It was added because of sin until the seed should come. Who is the seed?

Let's back up in this chapter and find out.

Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, and to seeds, as of many; but as of one, and to thy seed, which is Christ. (Galatians 3:16) Who is the SEED? CHRIST! So, this law was added (which is the sacrificial law) until Christ came. What was the sacrificial law used for until Christ came? Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. (Galatians 3:24)

The sacrificial law was our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ. Before we continue, we must clear one thing up. Are we justified by faith alone? Let's see. Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. (Romans 3:31) What law is established? Certainly not the sacrificial law, we have seen above that it was added because of transgression until the Seed came (which was Christ). The Royal law to be established forever which are the Ten Lords commandments!

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You premis that is not supported by scripture. It is an assumption that Paul parsed the law.

iluvatar5150 said:

Tennessee man arrested after posting meme in Facebook group for Charlie Kirk vigil

Members of the Perry County community reportedly believed he was making threats against local schools

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A Tennessee man was arrested on Monday for making “threats of mass violence” after posting a meme in a Facebook group where people were organizing a vigil for Charlie Kirk.​

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Larry Bushart Jr., 61, a former police officer, posted a meme of President Donald Trump in the Perry County community group page as members of the page were organizing a vigil to honor Kirk.​

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“‘We have to get over it.’ – Donald Trump, on the Perry High School mass shooting one day after,” the text on the meme read.​

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However, members of the group interpreted Bushart’s post as a threat against their local high school, which is also called Perry County High School.​

“Investigators believe Bushart was fully aware of the fear his post would cause and intentionally sought to create hysteria within the community,” Perry County Sheriff Nick Weems told The Tennessean.​

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As a result, Bushart was arrested early Monday morning and charged with making threats of mass violence on school property and activities.​

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I don’t see it, I don’t think they have a case

mark46 said:

I apologize. I cannot find the details of bills within the last week. However, the New York Times says that more is included that extending Obamacare subsidies. For example, Democrats have a clause regarding public broadcasting. I suspect that the reversal of the shifting of various Medicaid costs is still in there as it was when rival bills were presented prior to the shutdown.
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As I said, I strongly support the proposal of a clean bill with the one change of extending the Obamacare subsidies.

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Do you mean this bill (the Dems)?

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/2882/text

or maybe this one (the GOP)?

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/5371/text

Note that if you find something in the Dems bill, it would be good to see if it is in the GOP bill.

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essentialsaltes said:

"The Church, like a mother, accompanies those who are walking," Leo wrote in the document released by the Vatican on Thursday.

"Where the world sees threats, she sees children; where walls are built, she builds bridges. She knows that her proclamation of the Gospel is credible only when it is translated into gestures of closeness and welcome. And she knows that in every rejected migrant, it is Christ himself who knocks at the door of the community."

The pope praised the longstanding tradition in the church to welcome migrants, citing the efforts of the Catholic charities umbrella group Caritas Internationalis. On Thursday, Leo also sent a message to the Catholic Charities USA Network, which has been impacted by the freeze of federal funds for nonprofit organizations, praising their work with migrants and encouraging them to continue their efforts as "agents of hope."

The exhortation, "Dilexi te" (I Have Loved You), divided into five chapters, is addressed to "All Christians." It was signed on Oct. 4, on the feast of St. Francis of Assisi and follows in the footsteps of his predecessors, who starting with St. John XXIII issued forceful document urging nations and believers to care for the poorest in society.

"No Christian can regard the poor simply as a societal problem; they are part of our 'family,'" Leo writes. "They are "'one of us.'"

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Matthew 25 : 41
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels:
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for I was hungry, and ye did not give me to eat; I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink;
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I was a stranger, and ye took me not in; naked, and ye clothed me not; sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
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Then shall they also answer, saying, Lord, when saw we thee hungry, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
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Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not unto one of these least, ye did it not unto me.
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And these shall go away into eternal punishment: but the righteous into eternal life.

knox blox

ARBITER01 said:

I disagree with you.

I think the catholic belief system is designed around works in pursuit of faith. I won't get into a great argument about it.

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There's no need to argue about it, or to guess either; the teachings are easy to find. In Catholicism there are three "theological virtues": faith, hope, and love. "Theological", in reference to these virtues, means that they are supernatural gifts, of grace.

Faith is the doorway to union with God the Vine, through whom will flow any righteousness that produces good fruit such as serving others, spreading the gospel, overcoming sin, etc. Nothing good comes unless by and through God, the Holy Spirit working in us

Soyeong said:

Any law that God has given is part of the set of laws that God has given.

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Thank you for the crisp and precise answer. Do you believe that one ought never to kindle a fire on the Sabbath?

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