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Now who's changing the subject ?
I'm not changing the subject.
You said that how anyone could believe the sun is 93,000,000 miles away - which is a scientific fact - is beyond you.
I replied that how someone could NOT believe it is beyond me - not to mention some of the other nonsensical things that you say.

Saying, "now who's changing the subject?" is changing the subject - you have no answer for what I've just said so you make a false accusation.
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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

That was not in Bradley's own words, but the words of some unnamed sources.
The source stated that Bradley said this.
It is in direct contradiction to the link I posted. We'll see if we ever get to see what actually happened ourselves.

But even in your clip the boat is said to be non-functional, it's hard to see that a second strike was justified then, IMO.
We will just have to wait and see. But already we have seen the lies from legacy media accusing Hegseth or ordering the killing and commiting war crimes. Extreme bias and designed to undermine Trump. So I will not trust anything that is said until it is confirmed.
I guess you haven't seen the actual film of what happened yourself?
Neither has those with TDS who are making all these claims lol. Its the same MO as all the other fake news they have claimed from so called anonomous sources who they never name.

Even doctoring other peoples words to change what they have said. Just because they hate Trump and his admin so much. Or hiding the evidence because it contradicts their poisonous narrative against Trump.
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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

If you love Jesus and his Father may I offer you up this message:

We do have something in common I think, we both love Jesus and his Father and I feel that it is an important Bond even though we may believe differently.
:) :sparklingheart:
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State leaders speak out about plans to expand the Islamic Academy of Alabama

Islamism is the biggest and most deadly threat in the world today.
More than malaria? Or climate change? Or the surprise arrival of a catastrophically large meteorite impact?

Do you mean ‘biggest threat to Christianity’?

I know a bunch of Muslims and they are no different to Christians insofar as they believe in a version of the Abrahamic faith.

They are certainly not shouting ‘Death to the non-religious’ down my way.
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Minnesota is drowning in fraud.

Apparently I was not clear enough since even you cannot think of a single example of Somalian heritage and culture that brings value to the United States.
I'm thinking that you don't see mass un-vetted migration from various brutal conflict zones as being a positive? However, with the demographic change caused by a high abortion rate, some commentators say you need uncontrolled migration from the third world to replace those murdered in the womb. Kind Regards.
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Eve and the Fallacy of Moral Choices

Most Bible translations are done by a group of really good Biblical scholars who hat to agree or will include multiple translations in the footnotes, so can you point me to another translation of scripture supporting your interpretation?
There's a perfectly good and obvious reason why terms in the KJV with regards to a lot a scripture using terms such as "these" and "they" rather than people.

The reason us contained right there in the parable and exampled by Jesus and the Apostles that shows the devil and his messengers operate in and through people.

So, you will term people as just some people but the term some isn't in the parable

ALL people have the Word stolen from our hearts. ALL. That theft is perpetual. None have perfect and full understandings. None. There are no exceptions. Never have been other than God Himself in the flesh
Satan roams the earth, and some people are demon possessed,
We're not discussing possession
Satan is the tempter and Jesus was tempted by satan, but being tempted does not mean you automatically sin.
Temptation equates to evil lawless thoughts which defile everyone. Again no exceptions. Never have been exceptions
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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

If you want to talk about mystical gibberish go post on the mystical gibberish sub-forum. I'm not here to discuss you "spirituality".
Actually the thread is on alternative forms of knowing. Its actually about philosophy and metaphysics and behavioural sciences which includes cultural and mystical beliefs lol.

That you call it gibberish only proves my point that you regard this alternative knowledge as unreal and dismiss it.
Do. Not. Care.
Then. Don't. Post. But. Because. You. Keep. Posting. You. Do. Care.
Nonsense. The physical is described by this:

And what caused these forces and fields. Where do they originate from. Or is this just a description of reality within a certain parameter of the physical forces and fields.

What about quantum indeterminism.

What is an electron. How do we know electrons don't have a form of consciousness. How do we know these wiggling bits of energy are not created by God. Where did this energy come from.
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Andrew Wolfe's Complete Recovery

Thank you, Pop D. :)
Thank you to everyone who is praying. You don't have to be a personal friend of people who need our prayers. I didn't intend to start two threads but couldn't find the other one until today.

The National Guardsman who is fighting for his life after being shot last week in Washington, D.C., is a "miracle" who is now "able to open both eyes," Attorney General Pam Bondi told "Fox & Friends" on Friday.

God is answering our prayers!
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Now does everyone understand why the "right to refuse illegal orders" video was made?

It is actually reported that there is immorality among you, and of a kind that even pagans do not tolerate: Killing men who are survivors at sea.
There's an awfully big difference between condoning an immoral act and not seeing something as an immoral act based on what's known at the time.
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I love and pray for law enforcement

I contiue to pray and am thankful that others also pray.

The National Guardsman who is fighting for his life after being shot last week in Washington, D.C., is a "miracle" who is now "able to open both eyes," Attorney General Pam Bondi told "Fox & Friends" on Friday.

Praising God!
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Has anyone attempted a 40 day fast?

Fasting for 40 days and 40 nights would be very hard on the body and could easily cause bodily harm. Jesus fasted for the 40 but then was ministered to by the angels and survived - Matthew 4:11. Will he send His Holy angels to minister to you also?? Or should Matthew 4:5-7 be considered? Also Luke 4:9-12
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Canada's assisted suicide continues to rise, 5% of all deaths: report

After seeing my mum starve herself to death after she got terminal Cancer, diagnoses make her death agonizing to watch. I can understand the reasons be hide it is love, because you don't want someone you love being in such pain, but only God can decide who lives and who dies.
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Why Do Christians Resist the Idea of “Social Justice”? A Theological Question

We can see social justice at work in the Tower of Babel. Here, the leaders transformed stones (everybody unequal) into bricks (everybody equal.) Their path put civilization on a dangerous path where everyone could get wiped out in a war. Hence, God was forced to step in to save everyone. This is based on the oral Torah as told by Rabbi Daniel Lapin.

Bricks or Stones? - YouTube

Take a look at how God feels about brick or hewn stone (cut stone or brick):

Exodus 20:25 And if thou wilt make me an altar of stone, thou shalt not build it of hewn stone: for if thou lift up thy tool upon it, thou hast polluted it.

Isaiah 65:3 A people that provoketh me to anger continually to my face; that sacrificeth in gardens, and burneth incense upon altars of brick;

Altars of brick are a no-no because the brick has symbolic value. People are stones, not bricks.

Social justice seeks to transform people from stones into bricks.
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Listen to and Follow Jesus

God through and in Jesus is dynamic enough to transform the hearts into submitting and doing what is pleasing and compatible to his will through the power of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is a dynamic companion and helps to work the miracle of changing the hearts. soon or later a believer becomes transformed. its a promise. IT WORKS. and the arguments become less an less ..the heart of man transitions into wanting to please the Father, nothing we can do can overpower the power of God..this is what it means..Gods will is to save you..your GOING to be saved! He wills it! and so much of man is about doubting he can do it..and that, somehow, binds us, in our doubts. and for good reason..
We can not overcome the feverish drive of our compelling will to want ..want, want..Only God has the formula to change our heart. Its our believing and surrendering to him to DO it..letting HIM..trusting him..praying in a posture of surrender..turning off the mind and letting in some HOPE ..in that time when temptation grabs hold..the praying posture of the heart. light the candle in your heart..and get real close to it..enough to feel its flame, let that flame be all you focus on..let it be a representation that you are trying to get close to him..its just about all we can do..is hold on..look to him..draw close to him..and like a candle, you can feel its flame ..even if its small..take comfort in the idea its alive...and you can still see and feel it.

Yea man can screw around and mess things up..but God shows us in our ongoing relationship with him that he is in charge of whats right for what HE wants for us.. His grace is known as to how long its going to take for us to figure that out., one on one. I know others can and do sin..they are doing it to themselves and God is right in there face about it.
No one can escape. Sometime they look like they are getting away from God, Its sad to see ..
I know God is going to bring all to his glory in the end..and what better end is that to know yea?
SC, thanks for reading and for taking the time to respond and to share your thoughts on this subject.
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The Shepherd of The Sheep

“’Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter by the door into the fold of the sheep, but climbs up some other way, he is a thief and a robber. But he who enters by the door is a shepherd of the sheep. To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he puts forth all his own, he goes ahead of them, and the sheep follow him because they know his voice. A stranger they simply will not follow, but will flee from him, because they do not know the voice of strangers.’ This figure of speech Jesus spoke to them, but they did not understand what those things were which He had been saying to them.” (John 10:1-6 NASB1995)

We learn in verses 7-9 that Jesus Christ is the door of the sheep and he is the way by which we must enter into salvation from sin and eternal life with God. No other way is the right way. And who are the sheep? They are all who believe in Jesus Christ to be Lord and Savior of their lives who listen to what he teaches and who obey his teachings (see John 10:27). We are those who have entered into the fold of the sheep (the church, the body of Christ) by way of the cross of Christ in death to sin and walks of obedience to God.

But there are others who have entered into the gatherings of the sheep by another way other than through Jesus Christ and his gospel message. For there are many false shepherds of the people out there who are “thieves and robbers” who are leading people to believe in a false gospel message which is infected with half-truths (lies) and distortions of truth created in the minds of humans who reject Jesus’ gospel message because they don’t want to have to die to their sins and to submit to God in obedience to his commands.

So “the gospel” message these “thieves and robbers” are bringing to the people are filled with bugs, i.e. with errors, many of which are willfully being planted within the gospel message to purposefully lead people away from Christ to a false gospel message of salvation from sin and eternal life with God. And many of them have deliberately skirted (bypassed) the parts of the gospel that teach death to sin and obedience to God, and they have diluted the gospel to a mere verbal profession of faith in Jesus, no change of heart.

Now, Jesus Christ is the shepherd of the sheep (verses 11-18), as well as he is the door into the fold of the sheep (the church, the body of Christ). And it is God the Father, I believe, who is the doorkeeper. For he is the one who sent Jesus Christ (God the Son) to the earth to be born as a baby and to one day die on a cross in order to put our sins to death with him so that, by God-gifted faith in him, and empowered by God, we can now die to sin and live to God and to his righteousness in walks of obedience to his commands.

And all those who become Jesus’ sheep by dying with him to sin and being raised with him to walk with him in obedience to his commands, by faith in him, they listen to Jesus’ words. They heed his words, and they follow him in surrender to his will in walks of obedience to his commands. And they follow Jesus because they know his voice. But they do not follow the strangers who are lying to the people, because they do not recognize their voices. For God has given them the discernment of the Spirit to know truth from lies.

For if we are truly following our Lord in obedience to his commands, and sin is no longer our practice, but righteousness is our practice, by the grace of God, and because we are now listening to the Lord, and we are heeding his words, then as we grow in our walks of faith in obedience to the Lord we should be able to recognize more and more the lies of the enemy which are opposed to the truth of the gospel which Jesus and his New Testament apostles taught (in the correct biblical context, and not out of context).

And we should be those who are rejecting the lies of the enemy and their messengers, who are discerning truth from lies and those who speak truth vs those who speak lies. For the Holy Spirit is living within us speaking truth to our hearts and minds, and he is revealing to us the lies vs the truth so that we will now follow the truth and reject the lies. And if we are Jesus’ true sheep, we will not resist the Holy Spirit’s voice and end up following the lies, but we will desire to live for our Lord in doing what pleases him.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

When I Am Afraid

Based off Psalms 56-57
An Original Work / October 17, 2016
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love


When I am afraid, Lord, I will trust in You.
Your Word, Lord, I praise. I yield my life to You.
Enemies pursue me, slandering Your Name.
Lord, have mercy. I trust in You. Hear my cry today.

Lord, I love Your Word. It comforts me today,
As I look to you, and bow my head and pray.
You are Christ, my Lord. You saved me from my sin,
That I may walk, Lord before You, purified within.

Steadfast is my heart, O God, I sing of You.
I will praise You, Lord. To You, I will be true.
Oh, how great Your love. Your faithfulness endue.
Be exalted, God of heaven. Glory be to You.

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The Shepherd of The Sheep
An Original Work / December 6, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Street Preaching

I have been thinking about the current political claimte and how people are being cancelled and even killed for their views. Is street preaching or declaring the gospel in public now a dangerous occupation.
You're right. Many street preachers have been arrested in the UK in recent days. But every other religion is ok. Shocking. God Bless
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Problems with Dan 9 decrees, and dates

Ezra 7 8 Ezra arrived in Jerusalem in the fifth month of the seventh year of the king

Nehemiah 2 2 In the month of Nisan in the twentieth year of King Artaxerxes, when wine was brought for him, I took the wine and gave it to the king.


The month of Nisan corresponds to March/April. Which is when passover was which is when Jesus was crucified so the Nehemiah 2 decree is the only possible decree it can be, and not the Ezra 7 one.

⭐ 1. BEFORE the Babylonian exile (Torah era)

The Bible never uses the word Nisan.
Instead, it only calls the first month:

“Abib” (אָבִיב)​

Meaning: “green ears (of barley)” — a description of the harvest stage, not a calendar name.
Verses using Abib:
  • Exodus 13:4 — “On this day in the month of Abib you are going out.”
  • Exodus 23:15 — “...in the month of Abib.”
  • Exodus 34:18 — “You shall keep the Feast… in the month of Abib.”
  • Deuteronomy 16:1 — “Observe the month of Abib…”

So originally:

⭐ The first month = Abib (harvest month)​


❌ NOT “Nisan”​




⭐ 2. AFTER the Babylonian exile (Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther)


Only in the post-exilic period does the name Nisan appear.


This is because the Jews adopted Babylonian month names during the exile (6th century BC).


First appearance:​


Nehemiah 2:1


“In the month of Nisan, in the twentieth year of King Artaxerxes…”

Also appears in:


Esther 3:7


“In the first month, which is the month of Nisan…”

Thus:


⭐ “Nisan” = a Babylonian loanword​


⭐ Adopted by Jews after exile​


⭐ Used in Second Temple Hebrew, not Torah-era Hebrew​




⭐ 3. What time of year is Nisan?​


Nisan corresponds to March–April.


This is because:


  • Nisan 14–15 = Passover
  • Passover is tied to the spring barley harvest, meaning the spring equinox season

Modern correlation:
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