Tom D said:

I believe it's a symbol of Our Lady, who was a descendant of people with original sin, but was free from origin sin herself.

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Ok. I don’t think the Lotus flower is a symbol of anyone. It’s just a flower.

eclipsenow said:

It turns out that is EXACTLY what you have done!

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It ain't over until the fat lady sings.

Expect amazing and earth shaking things to happen before Jesus Returns. It's unfortunate that most people have no knowledge of God's intentions, all as Written in the Bible; but hidden from their understanding.

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It means that It was only a promise until it actually happened. Physical Israel is a OT type of spiritual Israel. Esau is physical Israel. Jacob is spiritual Israel. Spiritual Israel is elect "in Christ" only. All those in spiritual Israel are "in Christ" as a result of faith and then they become elect with Jesus. Jesus is the One elect. We become elect when we are placed in Him, per Eph. 1:1-14. We are placed in Him when we receive the Holy Spirit indwelling as a result of faith always (Eph. 1:13-14). With the Holy Spirit indwelling we are In Christ, without the indwelling we are not in Christ (Romans 8:9-10). Paul said "we" are the first fruits of the Spirit, meaning the firstfruits of the indwelling (Romans 8:23), the baptism with the Holy Spirit Jesus promised when He, Jesus was lifted up, the promise of the Father, the Holy Spirit, which is part of the promises that those in Hebrews died having not received. OT believers were not in Christ, thus they were not elect except by promise until Pentecost, when they were placed into Christ. All they had was a promise that was to come. They were all still in Adam, yet God knew them already. All that the Father gives me I shall not lose one of them. The Sheep. This is who Romans 8:29 is speaking of. These were already known by God, He predestined them to be conformed to the image of His Son (starts when places in Him), those He called with the Gospel message.... None had yet ascended until the cross because they were not yet "in Christ" and born again (John 3:1-14).

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And you put a lot on my PLATE and I will begin with The sheep in Rom 8:29. and does NOT in any way say SHEEP

and 1 COR 12:13 we care BAPTIZED // PLACED into one BODY. whether Jews or Greeks

Notice also verse 15 we. are his foot

In. verse we are his EAR

And. we are HIS sense of SMELL and that. on earth we are CHRIST and had to leave and will be back. on. TUESDAY. !!

dan p

"Since Tyndale’s English translation in 1526, translators and publishers have created approximately 900 different English Bibles, making it hard to know which to choose.

In the end, no single version of the Bible will perfectly capture every thought or nuance communicated through the Hebrew, Greek, or Aramaic writing in our available manuscripts."

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More Americans are now reading the Bible but fewer believe it’s 100% accurate: ​

The premise for this thread and its title are somewhat misleading - there has been no need to go outside the Christian community itself to find those who would question the accuracy of the translation of events contained in the Bible!

Even within Christianity's 3 major divisions, there is no consensus that even extends to the number of books that merit inclusion in the Bible!#

Protestant Bible - 66 books as determined by Martin Luther
Catholic Bible - 73 books - compiled and translated by St Jerome and confirmed as the Church's canon by the Council of Rome (382 AD)
Eastern Orthodox - 76 books

The Apocrypha, the 7 additional books found in the Catholic and Orthodox Bibles., were removed by Martin Lither – Tobit, Judith, 1st and 2nd Maccabees, Wisdom of Solomon, Sirach (or Wisdom of Jesus the Son of Sirach), and Baruch.

In addition to the removal of these 7 books (Apocrypha), Luther also removed
- Daniel 13
- Daniel 14
- John 7 verse 53 -8;11

Luther also moved four New Testament books—Hebrews, James, Jude, and Revelation to the back of his Bible translation as a means to reduce their influence, referring to these New Testament books "epistles of straw" or "Judaizing nonsense" because they contradicted his theology.

The fact that there are significant differences in the Bibles representing the major branches within Christianity also reinforces the contradictions that exist that apparently can't be reconciled!

Add to this the almost 900 Bibles translated since 1526 in English alone, further reflects the ongoing discontent within Christianity that the existing language in the Scriptures fail to convey the same message in the 21st C and/or whether they reflect the beliefs of the reader!

“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

The narrow gate is Jesus and the only way to enter by the narrow gate, is by belief in Jesus for Eternal Life.

The way is difficult because people believe belief in Jesus is not the way. They believe they must repent of sin, be obedient, be baptized, etc... So they are not believing in Jesus, but is actions they do.

Dice likes the terms anti-white racism, and anti-whiteness. I disagree with him there. I think all racism is just racism.

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I live in Logan City (west) so a bit of distance from you in Redcliffe. I didn't play last year, but I played Masters Hockey for some years in the Brisbane competition. We would sometimes have a game in Redcliffe (fairly close to the hospital) which was annoying as it was a long way to go for a hockey game! (66 kms plus return)

I think the climate has changed a bit locally. Like you I can remember the clockwork storms (Newmarket in those days). It would be hot and steamy; the storm would sweep in and cool everything down. But the next morning the heat and humidity would be back.

I think the northside is more prone to storms generally than the southside of Brisbane but that's just my opinion. The weather bureau might have a different opinion.

I also think the westerly winds that used to hit during RNA week in August are nowhere near as strong as they used to be. At one time you could almost set your August calendar by their appearance, but now they hardly seem to be noticeable.

I think the climate is changing.

In this dream, I visited USA in LA as a tourist. We have relatives in LA so I stayed at their house. Then I saw live news of an attack also in LA just several blocks away our relative's house.

At first the authorities say a gas line had ruptured in small business compound and they sent firetrucks and police to handle the situation but they were quickly overcome by what seemed like a deliberate attack and then they sent the National guard who started shooting heavy ammunition towards the compound and they themselves were defeated as well.

It seems whatever they're shooting at inside the building is invulnerable to heavy machine gun fire which penetrated the building structure but not whatever is attacking inside. The National guard then retreated and attack seemed to cease.

With my utter curiosity, me and my sister walked towards ground-zero of the attack which has been cleared of all police, fire trucks, and the army as if nothing had happened. There were people (civilians) who are already at the building that's the source of the attack who appeared friendly and surprisingly invited us in.

We met the owner of the building who is an old man. He had lots of big dogs who barked at us at first but eventually became friendly. Then the old man showed us the source of the attacks and they were 9 to 10 ft tall ape-like creatures with dark gray hair who stood upright who looked like yetis and were very muscular.

They attacked with an unknown energy beam that came from their bodies. The creatures were gathering at the grounds of the building. We approached them but they seemed indifferent. Ironically, they looked harmless and didn't seem to care about our presence.

We then spent the night in one of the nearby houses of one of the people were there who gathered with the creatures. Past midnight, me and my sister returned to the compound where the creatures are gathering. The big dogs came to welcome us. and we saw the creatures who were now in formation, poised to do something. Then simultaneously, they fired their energy beams towards the neighborhood where we took a nap. The ground collapsed beneath the entire neighborhood, including the ground beneath the compound. It caused a massive landslide and took us with it. Incredibly, nobody died but I lost everything we brought with the trip, including my work laptop and phone! I worried a lot about my work that I'm going to miss a day or more and finding a way to let my bosses know without my stuff and having to guess their emails!

It's really ironic when I'm worried about my work more when it seems the world is about to ended by a bunch of bullet-proof Yetis with superpowers.

The yetis then vanished somehow but with the entire USA in panic and the army mobilized expecting another, possibly bigger attack.

Shem's a runner?

"W" is like "D". (Because they start with the same sound.)

STUP

Nobody finds liberal unicorns ever.

UNICO

BPPLEE said:

Spitting on someone is

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It certainly could be.

Bovino testified that merely touching an agent “could be assault depending on the situation. Spitting on someone could be assault.”

For all those Christ died His death exclusively for them acquired:

The invalidation and dissolution of death of his power, Heb. 2:14

14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

2Tim 1:10

10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

All for whom Christ died He will make alive from the dead, even spiritual death, it for them has been invalidated.9

Neostarwcc said:

Yeah I heard about that im sorry for your loss too. I remember seeing about his loss in October. Not sure if I replied to the thread or not i cant remember but Jeanette and I have been praying for your sister in law too. How's your sister in law been coping with the loss?

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She is still going on crying jags. It’s hard. We’ve been helping her with the financial aspect of things, death certificates, etc. We’ll be contacting an attorney this week to help walk her through the legalities for her protection and security.

I don't mean to sound vain, but truth be told, I was highly intelligent from a very young age. At just over 24 hours old, with no training in mathematics, this little single cell was already doing division.

Those first nine months were the best months of my life. I was comfortable, warm and safe. Everything was soft, peaceful and quiet. [fart joke deleted] It was like being in a paradisiacal Garden. No rent, no mortgage. I toiled not for my food, it was given like manna from Heaven. I didn't even have to breathe! How cool is that? It was like what 20 year old Communists think Communism is like as long as they've never endured it.

Very early on though, I did have a slightly disappointing notion that I was meant for something more. Don't get me wrong, there's no shame in being in utero. It's just that I felt my potential was somewhat limited.

Eventually, like the Jews in the wilderness, I started complaining. The accomodations were not to my liking. I began to get restless. At about 20 weeks, I began moving. But there was nowhere to move to.

Then one day, something strange happened. I had the sensation of being pushed, and although they were muffled, I could hear the anguished cries, screams, yells, grunts and moans of someone who was obviously being tortured. "May God curse the cruel person responsible for inflicting such torment!" said I.

On a sudden, I realized I was being pushed towards the place (whatever a "place" is) from which this weeping and gnashing of teeth emanated. I was sure I was dying, and if I wasn't dying, I wanted no part of this place.

So I devised a plan. I managed to turn myself around 180 degrees from the direction towards which I was being pushed. That way, I could use my feet to brace against the forward motion. In the process I managed to wrap my umbilical cord around my neck. My memory is foggy; I can't recall if this was an accident or a suicide attempt.

In any event, my plan was foiled. My mother later told me that the doctor decided at the last minute that he had to do an emergency C-section to save both our lives. Afterwards the doctor told my mom that it was the longest, bloodiest and most dangerous C-section he'd ever done.* Mom never forgave me for that, and loved to remind me of it on every birthday of mine.

The only other things I remember of that day are being cold, and being physically assaulted by a slap to the butt, completely unprovoked. This was not good. Then I knew that man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward.

* The stuff about trying to come out feet first, getting the cord around my neck, and the bloody C-section is true.

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Anyone else skeptical?

Prayers for you and your husband and son. May God lay His healing hand upon all of you body, mind, and spirit and grant you peace.

It is one of my favorites, too. My parish is using it as the Communion Hymn for all 4 Sundays. We're also singing the Missa Emmanuel Holy, Holy, Memorial Acclamation, Amen, and Lamb of God. The instrumental accompaniment at the Mass at which I serve is piano, trumpet, acoustic guitar, and double bass.

The one tune we're not doing this Advent that I really miss is Conditur alma siderium / Creator of the stars of night. I prefer it a cappella in either Latin or English.

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Lady: Are you the police?
Elwood Blues: No, ma'am, we're musicians ... We're on a mission from God.

CoreyD said:

Isn't making a game that glorifies violence

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At the start there is now a title screen which asks if you want blood and gore or not. If you choose no it goes to the "Unbrutal Bible Bubblebaths" title screen and there is no blood or chopping. Originally I had groans and sighs instead of screaming but a Christian gave a negative review saying things like:
"...the game fails to demonstrate the real suffering that took place in Philistia and Phoenicia"
So that is why I added screams of agony.

CoreyD said:

and sexual immorality a gross sin against the Lord?

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I don't think it is glorifying sexual immorality because the soldiers and you need to kill those people.

CoreyD said:

The LORD examines both the righteous and the wicked. He hates those who love violence. Psalm 11:5

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It is cartoonish though. Also there are a large number of games that glorify violence like the Doom games and Mortal Kombat. But I'm including gameplay that is based on Bible passages.

CoreyD said:

The Bible does not glorify violence.
Rather, these accounts are there that we can learn from them how God feels about them, and the consequences.

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Well what you and the soldiers do involves the consquences.

CoreyD said:

In like manner, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, who indulged in sexual immorality and pursued strange flesh, are on display as an example of those who sustain the punishment of eternal fire. Jude 1:7

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Well in the gameplay you are the punishment for those kinds of things.

CoreyD said:

If God did not recount these things for his people, they would not have clear examples that would help them avoid falling into the same conduct.
Now these things took place as examples for us, that we might not desire evil as they did. 1 Corinthians 10:6

I have in mind making a game based on the Bible, but it will be playable by all - adults and children, and both entertaining and educational.
I will certainly not be glorifying what God hates.

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I thought I'd portray things that are normally ignored in Bible games, etc. If there was no "Sinful Temple" in the game then the player wouldn't really understand why they need to kill everything that breathes.

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And now they're closed.

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lol

On a more serious note, I checked out the place on google maps. It's less than a 10 minute drive from Staunton, a small city that has a primary care provider with 5 doctors.

Perhaps they could also scrounge up the ressources for a mobile clinic to service the small towns in the vicinity.

Reluctant Theologian said:

Not all churches are internally ready to host/welcome homeless believers in their fellowship (thinking of The Visit (Adrian Plass), 1999). They're usually the opposite of the ones who are welcomed because they can easily grow into leadership and pastoral roles, or contribute financially.

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That's a good point. In my experience of inviting homeless people into a church ministry someone has to go the extra mile to make them feel welcome, because many of the members will consciously or subconsciously give them the cold shoulder. It can work well and be a tremendous blessing to the homeless visitors (and to the church to fulfill their calling), but someone will have to go that extra mile. God Bless You

Barraco said:

The symbolism could still be relevant, but I don't think it's driving this particular interpretation. Daniel 2 shows us that the ten toes would try to cleave to one another but would ultimately fail. That is nationalism in a nutshell.

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Is there something in the text here that references Daniel 2? I'm more interested in how John merges bits of the other beasts into one uber-beast. It's saying Rome is more powerful than all the previous empires. But it's also very universal in appeal - as in - this is Rome - but it could be any government that threatens God's people.

Barraco said:

I have not seen it.

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You sound like a reasonable person committed to reading God's word in context, and with reference to sensible theology. (And not just playing subjective "pin-the-tail-on-the-anti-Christ" like others here.)

Please consider putting the Bible Project on your list of resources for a quick overview of any book of the bible. It's like having a shorter audio-visual pamphlet on your bookshelf.

Try Revelation for starters.
First half:
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Second half: including Rev 13 and the mark of the beast

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In John's time, the image was an image of Caesar that would be placed within a tribune to prove allegiance to Rome and its gods.

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Absolutely. Wasn't there a new tribune installed at some point, and people required to turn up and swear allegiance?

Barraco said:

This was showcased to its zenith during the Diocletian Persecution. Asia Minor's culture leaned heavily into imperial cult, regardless of who ruled over them. That made its persecutions so much more devastating than those in Europe at that time. Crossing the contextual bridge, the torch passed easily to Soviet Russia, which began persecuting Christians and spreading Stalin's cult of personality after the Bolshevik Revolution.

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Across 2000 years? I'm not sure causation is demonstrated - but history certainly rhymes now and then.

Barraco said:

The two criteria all seven churches were evaluated by, and a repetitive theme in Revelation, is bearing a faithful witness of Jesus to the world by keeping His testimony (forehead) and obeying God's commands (right hand). Deuteronomy 6 drives this home.

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Check part 2 of Revelation above for the forehead and right hand.

Barraco said:

An interesting observation is that every nation will turn against Christ at some point. Notice the formula:

1. The four horsemen wreak havoc on a kingdom
2. The people blame and persecute saints and prophets
3. People fill up their wickedness until God's wrath comes upon them
4. God gives that kingdom to people bearing "fruit" (deeds) for His kingdom

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Hmmm - I'm not sure I've seen that as a pattern. The people I read seem to see Revelation as covering a multitude of themes, not necessarily linked in that way? Could you just add the chapters where you see this pattern emerging?

Cheers, good chatting with you

humor related to thanksgiving

The Pagan Origins of Thanksgiving lol

For example, in ancient Rome they celebrated the holiday of Cerelia, which honored the harvest goddess of grain called Ceres. ... Let’s begin with the Cornucopia, which was an important symbol in ancient Greece and Rome. A cornucopia is a horned shaped basket that is usually filled with harvest fruits and vegetables. This symbol goes back to a story from Ancient Greece where a goat pulled off his horn and offered it to the God Zeus. This was a magic horn that would refill indefinitely with food and drink ensuring that Zeus would never go hungry. ... Many Native American tribes view Turkey as a symbol of fertility and abundance. ... animal spirits ...Celtic pagan harvest festivals usually included some type of sport or competition. The Pagan Origins of Thanksgiving — ARCANE ALCHEMY

The Roman goddess Abundantia with a cornucopia in a painting by Rubens.... https://medium.com/the-pub/yes-thanksgiving-is-a-pagan-holiday-9cf425af4fb4

In 1621, Native American religions were diverse and often rooted in animism, emphasizing harmony with nature and the spiritual significance of all living things.

But some of the biggest festivals occurred around harvest time.

This was a time to give thanks to the gods for a bountiful harvest and to celebrate the success of another growing season.

There were many different types of harvest festivals, but the biggest three were Lammas, Mabon, and Samhain – each honoring different gods and celebrating different parts of the harvest and the changing of the seasons.

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Although harvest deities varied from tribe to tribe, many Native American cultures paid homage to "creator gods" that were believed to have helped the Great Spirit complete the earth in its physical form. One such creator god was the Earth Mother, who some tribes believed was the one to bring corn – a harvest staple – to the Native peoples.
The Secret Religious History of Thanksgiving
See how the pagans held the original Thanksgiving, how the Christian Church eventually coopted the holiday, and what symbolic evidence lives on.
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49. What kind of music did the pilgrims like?
Plymouth Rock.

50. If April showers bring May flowers, what do May flowers bring?
Pilgrims

51. Why do the Pilgrims have trouble keeping their pants on?
Because their belt buckles are on their hats.

What did the turkey say after a big meal?
“I’m stuffed!”
What’s a turkey’s favorite type of music?
Anything with drumsticks.
Why was the Thanksgiving soup so pricey?
It had 24 carrots.
Why did the scarecrow win an award at Thanksgiving?
Because he was outstanding in his field.
What’s the best thing to put into pumpkin pie?
Your teeth.
Why don’t you ever tell secrets at the Thanksgiving dinner table?
Because the corn has ears.

1. Why did Mom’s turkey seasoning taste a little off last year? She ran out of thyme.

2. What did Dad say when he was asked to say grace? “Grace.”

3. What’s the official dance of Thanksgiving called? The turkey trot.

4. What’s one thing that you’ll have in common with a teddy bear on Thanksgiving? You’ll both be filled with stuffing.

5. What was the turkey suspected of? Fowl play.

6. What did the Pilgrim wear to dinner? A (har)vest.

7. What song should you listen to on Thanksgiving? “All About That Baste.”

8. How can you unlock the greatest Thanksgiving experience ever? By making sure to bring the tur-key.

9. With Coronavirus being a possible concern this year, what’s likely to be the most popular side dish? Masked potatoes.

10. What kind of ‘tude is appropriate at the family dinner? Gratitude.