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Disneyland 'MAGA Invasion' Organizers Reveal Plans to 'Trigger' Guests and ‘Make Disney Great Again’

You clearly don't know who you're dealing with.
I'd hold you to that, but I know I'll have forgotten about it. You'll have to remind me 95 days from now. I look forward to the reports of all the havoc and terror that will be wreaked by the infamous area code 805 gang. The scourge of Santa Barbara.
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Questions and Answers

Is Ephesians 2:8-10 not clear enough for you? Paul very clearly taught that we are saved by grace through faith and NOT by works.

Paul taught we are saved by faith alone without works.

But the gospel of the kingdom preached by Jesus and the 12 is not saying the same thing.
Is there anything I said there that would lead you to believe I'm saying works are necessary for salvation?

I already pointed out to you the logical form of your argument, but since you don't want to recognize what is modus tollens, so we can move on.
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what did the Bible teach you about death?

It taught me not to fear death, that death is not the ending but will be a beginning of an eternity in paradise.

And that a gruesome end doesn't mean that God wasn't with us. God doesn't promise us a peaceful death in a hospital bed surrounded by loved ones, we could be eaten by a shark for all we know, or get into a bad car accident.

What happens if someone dies before they became a believer, is it their fault?

God's omnipotence, sovereignty and omnibenevolence can allow humans to make some autonomous free will choices out of a Love for humans which can allow them to become like God Himself with Godly type Love.
God is wise enough and powerful enough to be the first cause in the creation of a free will human, who can be the first cause to a very limited number of mental choices which do not negatively impact others.
You're the one limiting God's power to making only robotic type beings.
"Robotic" is a poor designator for the result of Creation's pervasive cause-and-effect.

If you can explain how God causes self-contradictory things to happen, be my guest. Don't just assert that it is so. We do not produce anything 'ex-nihilo'. Nothing happens in a void, expect by First Cause himself.
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Pray societies around world are guided by The Holy Spirit to sincerely debate what aspects of gene-editing human babies are Biblical or Unbiblical

Gracious Heavenly Father and Lord Jesus,
Lord, please protect these unborn children from procedures that could harm them, and help parents to walk in the light of truth.
In Christ's Name,
Amen
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Celebrate Thanksgiving with Thanksgiving Bible/Torah verses

Here's an idea for this coming Thursday's Thanksgiving time.

You're around the table, either for lunch or dinner. Your guests are there, and who knows what they will want to talk about. But YOU are the host. You get to pick the "table topic." When everyone has had their share of roast turkey, stuffing, cranberry sauce, mashed potatoes, and corn, before serving the dessert, have them read and share their take on "10 Bible verses" connected with "giving thanks." What do these verses tell you? How do you personally relate to these verses?

If you have 10 guests, each guest gets a verse. If there are 5 guests, each one gets 2 verses. Do the math, divide up the verses, and let that be the "Table Talk" before dessert.

1 Thessalonians 5:18; Psalm 100:4; Psalm 9:1; Psalm 7:17 1 Chronicles 16:34; Philippians 4:6; Colossians 3:15; 4:2; James 1:17;

2 Corinthians 4:15; 1 Corinthians 15:57

Midrash "Toldot" (generations) Gen 25:19-28;9 "Jacob and Esau"

PARASHAH: TOLDOT (generations) GEN 25:19-28:9


This study starts out with the generations of Abraham and Sarah. After years of waiting and praying, they finally had Yitzchak. The legacy continues, the promise of YHVH is revealed once more, but not without testing of faith. Yitzchak and Riv'kah also had to wait, about 20 years, yet they prayed and entreated the LORD to have a child. “The prayer of the righteous prevails.” The following is from the Talmud (B. Yevamot 64: a): “Why were our ancestors barren? Because the Holy One (blessed be He) longs to bless the prayers of the righteous.”

Since Yitzchak and Riv’kah (Isaac and Rebecca) were righteous, and part of the covenant promise, YHVH (in HIS timing) answered their prayer. Does that mean that ALL prayer is answered? Yes, it is, but not always the way we want Adonai to answer it. The answer comes in three forms: Yes, No, and “later on.” The sick are prayed over, and many are healed; others are prayed for, and YHVH takes them home. It doesn't mean to stop praying or pray once; God likes “continuous prayer.” The birth of Jacob and Esau came as a surprise, “twins inside,” and the battle ensued. Yet the LORD speaks to Riv'kah, saying:

“Two nations are in your womb, two peoples shall be separated from your body; One people will be stronger than the other, and the older shall serve the younger.”

When we look at this today, we see prophecy revealed plainly as day. From “Ya'akov”(Jacob), we get “Am Yisrael (The Nation of Israel) and from “Esav” we get the name “Edom” which is almost the same as “Adam” except for the “o” or in Hebrew the letter “Vav” (v) If we look at the paleo-Hebrew, one could get the symbolism of “Esau” who was made of “Blood and spirit” was connected (Vav) to “chaos” Esav was a “man of the earth, disinterested in spiritual things, he was materialistic, he related more to the “red” earth than the things of God. From “Esav/Edom” we get Haman (the Agagite), and from Haman, the nation of “Rome” came into being. All nations hated Rome, as Rome was a conquering empire and took control of many lands. Many nations hate Israel, as Israel is the "anointed" of God, and the recipient of HIS blessings. (jealousy?)

Israel was under the yoke of Rome, YET today, we look at Israel, it has the strongest and one of the most advanced and modern Military in the world. And it was indeed an honor to serve under the IDF ten years ago, and I would gladly do it again.

Jacob and Esau, twin brothers, but two separate nations, two brothers, yet worlds apart, one spiritual, interested in the things of God, the other, interested in the things of the world. Esau and Jacob represent the world of today. We have the “lost” “unrepentant man,” and we have the “born again believers,” which include ALL who have accepted Yeshua the Messiah as LORD and Savior, doesn't matter if we are a Sabbath observing messianic believer, or a Sunday church going believer, we are ALL part of God's family.

Yet we see that Jacob exhibited “carnal behavior” he wanted things “his way” yet when God sent Jacob to uncle Laban's “school of hard Knocks” he came out different... (but that is in the next Torah/Bible study). Jacob symbolizes “all believers,” both carnal and spirit-filled. We ALL have growing and maturing to go through on this side of heaven.

I would like to examine three names: Adam, Esau, and Jacob/Israel. How are we like these names? Adam and Edom are spelled almost the same. Adam was the first man made in the “image of Elohim.” he was made from the earth, “Edom means “red” perhaps the earth with which Elohim made Adam was a reddish color. Esau was a carnal man, and gave in to his hunger and ate of Jacob’s “red” lentil stew. Adam was made perfect in all ways, yet sin broke fellowship between him and God, thus, sin was passed down to all generations. Esau and Jacob, one could say were like “twins”. Yet one sought after spiritual things and the other, after carnal things. Jacob and Esau symbolize the spiritual man and carnal man, yet we can decide which “man” we want to follow and emulate

Esau despised his birthright for lentil stew. We can see the same today, many people will prefer a life of sin, money, fast cars, drugs, fame, you name it, and reject the gift of God, “Salvation” (YESHUAH), and then “perish” for all eternity. That's kind of like “exchanging” Eternal life with God for a “temporary life” of comfort and ease, riches, etc. Just doesn't make sense, does it?

We can also see this in believers. In believers, we have the “Esau” nature and the “Jacob” nature. The “Esau” nature is our carnal sin nature, which responds to the flesh, but the “Jacob” nature is our “spirit-filled” nature, which is attracted to the things of the spirit, the things of God. It is our choice which “nature” governs our lives.

The time of blessing comes, Isaac is old and blind, and there has been a family “division.” Isaac loved” Esau (because of his wild game) yet Rebecca “loved” Jacob. Does that mean that Isaac didn't love Jacob and Rebecca didn't love Esau? No, only means that there were “family favorites” which is a big NO, if we are to live in peace with our children today, even between “students and teachers” no favorites, please!

We see in Chapter 27 that Jacob passes for Esau, and Esau gets the shorter end of the stick. Taking advantage of poor Isaac's blindness, yet there is a saying “The chickens come home to roost” and “What goes around, comes around.” We will see LATER what happens, Jacob is the younger, and pretends to be the older. When Jacob gets married, he thinks he's getting the younger daughter, but gets the older daughter. Jacob deceives Isaac in his “darkness” (blindness), and Jacob gets deceived, being in the “darkness” (night time, dark tent), and maybe he had too much to drink to know who got in bed with him.

Esau doesn't change; he marries a “Hittite” woman and then gets another wife from his uncle Ishmael, all to “get back” (maybe) at Isaac for giving away his birthright, but didn't he already sell it? Hello?

So, the question is: “Jacob or Esau,” who do we resemble most? It might be a thought-provoking question, but it is a question we must ask ourselves. We may be born-again believers, yet if our thoughts are earthly, and God’s Word doesn’t fill our minds daily. If our daily life is more carnal than spirit-filled, and our words are less than kosher, then we would have to be honest with ourselves and say, “We are Esau!” Yet it doesn’t have to be that way.

If we say, “I take after Jacob!” then does God’s Word, his Spirit, guide us? Remember that his name was changed to “Israel” (Yashar-El), “Straight to God.” Do our thoughts go “straight to God?” Are we living our own lives, or are we living the “God-in-us” lives? Is it really our life or God’s life that is within us?

The Mamdani Model: More Socialist Mayors to ComeBeware! The DSA will attempt to repeat Mamdani’s success in other Democrat strongholds.

Which politics in particular?

Certain left-leaning political moves are drawing quite a bit of backlash in Europe right now (at least on the immigration front)

Things like universal healthcare are obviously popular in Europe and Asia, but those aren't things that are decided at a Mayoral level.
Those two issues aren't coupled together as tightly as you think, either. I notice that Orban, for example, takes a hard line on immigration and gay rights, but Hungarians still have affordable housing and education, universal health care, outstanding public transportation infrastructure and the toughest gun laws in the EU. In many ways the place is a model of Democratic Socialism. ;)
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Prince Albert II blocks bill expanding abortion law in defense of Monaco’s Catholic identity

Prince Albert II of Monaco has announced that he will not sign into law a bill that aims to relax the conditions for accessing abortion in the European microstate.

The monarch confirmed his rejection of the new bill — passed by the National Council by a margin of 19-2 last May — during an interview given to the Monaco-Matin newspaper on Nov. 18 on the occasion of the holiday celebrating the principality’s nationhood.

The legislative proposal aimed to authorize abortion up to 12 weeks of pregnancy and up to 16 weeks in cases of rape, and to lower the minimum age for waiving parental consent from 18 to 15 years old.

While he said he understands “the sensitivity of this issue,” the monarch pointed out that the current legal framework “respects our identity and the place that the Catholic religion occupies in our country, while simultaneously guaranteeing safe and more humane support.”

Continued below.

Why do people hate ICE...

FACT: 70% of ICE arrests have involved illegal aliens convicted of, or charged with, crimes. According to the Center for Immigration Studies, 35.7% of the illegal aliens in ICE detention have criminal convictions, 30.5% have pending criminal charges, and the remaining 33.8% are “other immigration violators” — while nearly 70% of those removed from the country have criminal histories. As a result of this unprecedented effort, scores of gang members and national security threats have been taken off our streets.
Pending charges are meaningless - under our legal system, people are assumed innocent until proven guilty. And, given CBP's involvement in the various enforcement operations throughout the country, that article's assumption that persons arrested by CBP are solely border encounters is flawed.
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Kilauea Volcano is spectacular today.

Eruption resumed high fountaining with episode 37 about one hour ago. Video streams are posted in posts #5, 12, 68. Video has 12 hour scroll back. Episode should last 5-10 hours or so.

Only the north vent today, but a double fountain from it. Here's a big tongue of lava reaching the far side of the caldera:

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The slight shade change on this side of the hot lava tongue from dark grey w/ white spots to a browner color is the limit of lava flows in this eruption over the last 11 months (lined up with the near edge of the black flow to the left.
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