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RileyG · 2025-12-01T23:57:24-0600

I'm actually very surprised by this. May God bless him abundantly and help him grow in his faith!

iluvatar5150 · 2025-12-01T23:47:12-0600

Danthemailman said:
JUST IN: Schumer Claims Three of His New York Offices Received "MAGA" Bomb Threats (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila JUST IN: Schumer Claims Three of His New York Offices Received "MAGA" Bomb Threats (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

Anyone else skeptical?

Nice to see you and the Gateway Pundit making light of threats of political violence.

AutisticAnglican · 2025-12-01T23:43:32-0600

Both technically qualify as anime because Tatsunoko (animators of Speed Racer) was contracted by CBN & they have a Japanese version

you can watch them legally online for for free in English here:

Superbook Classic:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0zvCDP_0LjDzjfZ2jKEP6lZB22s2AHwN
This playlist is from CBN's Superbook YouTube Channel

Flying House:
Flying House Episode 1

Just change the number in the link up to 52 (as there is only 52 episodes) & you can watch any of the episodes

Fantine · 2025-12-01T23:39:03-0600

Always in His Presence said:
For Al-Qaida members living in Somalia.

So ridiculous I won't even ask for a reference from a reliable source.

Christsfreeservant · 2025-12-01T23:36:48-0600

“The Passover of the Jews was near, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. And He found in the temple those who were selling oxen and sheep and doves, and the money changers seated at their tables. And He made a scourge of cords, and drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and the oxen; and He poured out the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables; and to those who were selling the doves He said, ‘Take these things away; stop making My Father’s house a place of business.’ His disciples remembered that it was written, ‘Zeal for Your house will consume me.’” (John 2:13-17 NASB1995)

God’s house, prior to Jesus’ death on a cross and his bodily resurrection from the dead, was a physical temple (a physical building) built by human hands. In the temple, in the “Holy of Holies,” was the Ark of the Covenant, and it is where God’s presence dwelt. It was separated from the Holy Place by a curtain, and it was accessible only to the high priest who made yearly sacrifices for his own sins and for the sins of the people, as I understand.

But in Jesus’ death, that curtain was torn in two from top to bottom, symbolizing that the barrier between humans and God was removed, and now, by faith in Jesus Christ, we all can go directly into God’s presence, but not via a physical building called “church,” but via the Holy Spirit of God now living within us who are the church, the people of God, the body of Christ. Thus, God does not dwell in buildings built by human hands, but he dwells within us, by his Spirit, who have believed in Jesus to be our Lord.

So, God’s house today is the body of Christ, the people of faith in Jesus Christ. We are the church, his building, his temple, and we can meet together with other Christians anywhere appropriate for fellowship, prayer, teaching, discipleship, and for Christian ministry on any day of the week, at any time of day. And the meeting place doesn’t even have to be anywhere physical, for it can be via a phone call, or a text message, or an email, or on social media on the internet, or in the blogging world or on Christian forums.

Therefore, the church is not a building built by human hands, but it is us, the people of faith in Jesus Christ, wherever we gather. We are the temple of God, and his holy place now dwells within us. And when we gather together, it is to honor our Lord with our lives in doing what he has directed us that we must do together, as his body. And we are to gather together for mutual encouragement and edification, where each body part does its work as God assigned us our roles (body parts) within the universal body of Christ.

And our Lord is examining our lives individually, as well as collectively, and he is looking at what our gatherings are made of, and who is in charge of them, and what they are focused on to see if they align with his will and purpose for his body, his church. And he is seeing that many of these gatherings called “church” are not under his authority at all, but they are being led by marketing gurus who are training the “church” in how to attract the world to their gatherings, in place of being led by the Spirit of God.

And he is saying to the worldly church which has turned their gatherings into a marketplace to be marketed to the people of the world to “Take these things away” and “stop making My Father’s house a place of business.” And he is telling us all that we are not to turn our gatherings into places of businesses, and that we are not to partner with the ungodly of the world like so many are doing today under the name “church.” For so many have incorporated (merged, partnered) with the world to draw in large crowds.

[Matthew 21:12-13; John 2:13-17; Acts 5:27-32; 1 Corinthians 1:10-13; 1 Corinthians 3:1-9; 2 Corinthians 6:14-18; Philippians 3:18-19; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22; Revelation 13:5-8; Revelation 18:1-5]

For if zeal for God’s house consumes us, this is not about loyalty and devotion to a building or to a business, but this is about us being passionate about sharing the truth of the gospel with the people of the world and caring for one another within the body of Christ to meet one another’s spiritual needs and any other needs that need to be met by us within the body of Christ. And it is about following our Lord in obedience to his commands in holy living, and it is about calling out the lies which we need to reject.

[Acts 2:14-18,42-47; Romans 12:1-8; 1 Corinthians 12:1-31; 1 Corinthians 14:1-5; Galatians 6:1; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:1-16; Ephesians 5:15-21; Ephesians 6:10-20; Philippians 2:1-8; Colossians 3:12-16; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:13; Hebrews 10:23-25; James 5:19-20]

Zeal for Your House

Based off John 2:17; Psalms 69:9
An Original Work / August 1, 2016
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Zeal for Your house, it consumes me.
Lord, I love my times with You.
I love to worship You and sing Your praises.
Time in Your Word brings me closer to You,
List’ning to You speaking to me,
Gently guiding me in truth.

Lord, You are my life’s example,
Showing me how I should live.
I love to walk with You where’er You lead me.
No greater joy have I when serving You.
Loving, giving, resting in Your strength,
I’m yielding to Your will.

Zeal for Your house, it consumes me.
See the church turned upside down:
Marketing ventures taking place of worship,
Men of the gospel turning into clowns.
Gospel message made appealing,
So the world will feel at home.

Lord, we need a great revival.
Turn their hearts, Lord, back to You.
Open the blind eyes, turn them all from darkness,
Lord, to the light. May they return to You,
Turn from their sin, forsake idols,
Be restored to God again.

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Zeal for God’s House
An Original Work / December 2, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Guojing · 2025-12-01T23:36:47-0600

A Devil's Advocate said:
The present age is the age we are in now, before Christ's return. The age to come is after Christ's return when the heavens and earth are renewed and God's kingdom is now on earth. There is no longer any death.

The term “age to come”, where did you get it from scripture?

Hans Blaster · 2025-12-01T23:26:26-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Immigration judge fired by Trump administration files lawsuit claiming discrimination
Tania Nemer is one of scores of immigration judges that have been dismissed.

Nemer was "abruptly fired" in the middle of her probationary period despite receiving "the highest possible performance," the lawsuit alleges.

The former Cleveland judge is among the more than 100 immigration judges who have been fired, resigned through the Department of Government Efficiency's "Fork in the Road" offer, or transferred out of immigration adjudication, according to the union representing immigration judges.

The lawyers called the DOJ's position that it can fire federal employees without a reason -- despite civil rights statutes -- a "breathtaking assault on a landmark federal statute."

Among the hundreds of reforms needed, it is clear that the system of immigration judges under the control of the DOJ is not good. Put them under the management of the district courts like the magistrate judges.

RileyG · 2025-12-01T23:23:54-0600

May the Lord have mercy upon her and restore her to full health and strength!

RileyG · 2025-12-01T23:23:18-0600

May God bless them abundantly!

RileyG · 2025-12-01T23:22:59-0600

May they rest in peace and rise to glory!

RileyG · 2025-12-01T23:22:39-0600

How sad! May God protect the persecuted!

RileyG · 2025-12-01T23:22:18-0600

Michie said:
U.S. President Donald Trump signed an executive order Thursday that aims to improve the nation’s foster care system, including the modernization of the current child welfare system, the development of partnerships with private sector organizations, and prioritizing the participation of those with sincerely held religious beliefs.

The executive order issued Nov. 13 states that the Trump administration is “dedicated to empowering mothers and fathers to raise their children in safe and loving homes.”

The order says current problems with the foster care system include overworked caseworkers, antiquated information systems, and policies that “prohibit qualified families from serving children in need as foster and adoptive parents because of their sincerely-held religious beliefs or adherence to basic biological truths.”

The legal group Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF) has represented Christian families who were barred from serving as foster parents because of their faith, suing on behalf of Brian and Katy Wuoti and Bryan and Rebecca Gantt after the Vermont Department for Children and Families informed the two families that their belief that persons cannot change biological sex and that marriage is only between a man and a woman precluded them from serving as foster parents in the state.

Continued below.

Trump signs order prioritizing faith-based participation in foster care

President Donald Trump signed an executive order Thursday that aims to improve the nation’s foster care system.

www.catholicnewsagency.com

Good! Leave the good faithful alone! They have God to answer to!

Reluctant Theologian · 2025-12-01T23:12:01-0600

Ellesmere said:
Productivity–Pay Tracker
Change 1979q4–2025q2:
Productivity
+87.3%
Hourly pay
+32.7%
Productivity has grown 2.7x as much as pay

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The graph indicates that from 1948 until 1973 hourly wages and worker productivity operated largely in tandem!

starting in 1974, however, this link began to unravel - hourly compensation flat-lined while productivity continued with its upward trajectory!

Between 1979 and 2025 productivity increased by 87.3% while wages increased by a modest 32.7%!

That translates into an average increase of 1.4% per year in productivity versus 0,6% average increase in wages

Even !he advantage of a 2.7X factor in favor of productivity wasn't enough to satisfy some corporations transfer their manufacturing to off-shore locations - meanwhile citing high labor costs in America as the underlying justification!

Fast forward to 2025 with the Trump Administration with massive cuts being made to fund massive tax cuts for the wealthy
- federal s of Nov 18, 211,000 government employees have left the workforce
- insisting on stringent rules for the 42 million SNAP recipients,
- dispensing with financial support for Obamacare that translates into 10 million losing their healthcare insurance -a projected 15 million by 2034
- insisting that prices are decreasing despite evidence confirming the contrary

The wealthiest 50% of Americans own 98% of America's wealth, those at the very bottom of the other 50% with a combined 2% of the wealth and receiving government assistance have become the designated target by the rest of society!-

Meanwhile the top 0,1% which control 13.8% of the nation's wealth and benefited most from the productivity/wage gap since 1979 are waiting at the front of the line because they are deserving of yet another tax-cut - adding to the national debt that becomes the responsibility of all Americans

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"According to a 2021 White House study, the wealthiest 400 billionaire families in the U.S. paid an average federal individual tax rate of just 8.2 percent. For comparison, the average American taxpayer in the same year paid 13 percent."
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"The US government is estimated to have lost around $135 billion in revenue due to corporate tax avoidance in 2017. In contrast, corporate philanthropy has amounted to less than $20 billion a year.""

"Corporations shifted nearly $1 trillion in global profits to tax havens in 2022—depriving countries all over the world of desperately needed tax revenue.

According to the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy, 23 of the largest and most profitable companies in the US paid no federal corporate income taxes from 2018-2022. And 109 corporations paid zero federal tax in at least one of those years."

The wealthiest members in American society are waiting in the wings while the poorer segments are fighting over "THE SCRAPS" - denouncing each other for taking advantage of the system! while the real culprits get a "FREE PASS!"

https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/by-the-numbers-harmful-republican-megabill-will-take-health-coverage-away-from

Do the rich pay their fair share?

Billionaire wealth and corporate profits have surged. New Trump administration proposals will affect both. Are they paying their fair share?

www.oxfamamerica.org

Interesting ... I'm not a USA resident but it can't be a coincidence that exactly from that year the gold-standard for the USD was abandoned (Bretton-Woods) and inflation started to erase the value of money in the USA (and similar patterns have emerged in other currency areas).

RileyG · 2025-12-01T23:01:27-0600

Kingdom

Vambram · 2025-12-01T22:49:07-0600

Danthemailman said:
W.Va. Gov. Patrick Morrisey on Newsmax: Guard Victim Andrew Wolfe Is Responsive

https://www.newsmax.com/us/national-guard-shooting-wolfe/2025/12/01/id/1236611/

Praise the Lord! That is encouraging.

Amen and Hallelujah!!!

GodAndChocolateVanilla · 2025-12-01T22:09:40-0600

A new Hobby of mine right now is painting Rocks!! ^w^

I love painting and I love Rocks!!

I also like collecting Rocks and Crystals. ^w^

Multifavs · 2025-12-01T21:50:24-0600

I put up most of the Christmas decorations today. Tomorrow I'll take care of the tree.

BCP1928 · 2025-12-01T21:47:53-0600

RDKirk said:
I said that earlier myself.

Maybe they'll find a way to let him weasel out. It depends on how bipartisan the Congressional complaints get. All it does is feed fuel to the fire of troops being sure not to obey illegal orders, particularly if the lower ranking people catch heat.

He wouldn't have had to say anything, simply not do it. The survivors of the later boat were rescued alive.

Guess what? They weren't all Venezuelan.

RocksInMyHead · 2025-12-01T21:27:36-0600

Servus said:
So what crimes are acceptable for a president to pardon?

In theory, any crime is eligible to be pardoned, because pardons are primarily about the person, not the crime. Generally speaking, I'm not opposed to pardons in cases where there appears to be a miscarriage of justice or where the law has changed such that what the person was convicted of is no longer a crime (or is a much less serious crime - e.g. a misdemeanor instead of a felony). Commutations make sense in cases where the person has been a model prisoner, has served a significant chunk of their sentence, and has shown an effort to reform and give back to the community. But that's really about it.

childeye 2 · 2025-12-01T21:23:30-0600

CoreyD said:
Well, I'm glad to hear you admit you are not addressing the OP, but only an argument that exists in your head, because the OP is proving free will exists in man. Nothing else.

I am talking about the op. The op claims Adam acted on his own free will, which is a noun. All of the terms you use to prove this act of free will are adjectives, not nouns in scripture. You need to prove that a voluntary choice (The noun, see below) exists in the moral/immoral context. To be clear, scripture teaches there are two masters, righteousness and unrighteousness, and we must serve either one or the other. You need to disprove that. When scripture speaks of a neutral position between the two masters, it's called doublemindedness not free will. This is why I'm saying the only true free will is the one set free from sin just like Jesus and Paul taught.

freewill

1 of 2

adjective

free·will ˈfrē-ˌwil

Synonyms of freewill
: voluntary, spontaneous
free will
2 of 2

noun

1
: voluntary choice or decision
I do this of my own free will.

2
: freedom of humans to make choices that are not determined by prior causes or by divine intervention

So watch this: When you say God created his children with free will the noun, notice how if we fill in the blank with the adjectives you provide as proof of free will, it doesn't make any sense.

God created his children with voluntary
God created his children with willing
God created his children with uncoerced
God created his children with unforced
God created his children with willful
God created his children with intended
God created his children with deliberate
God created his children with intentional
God created his children with free-willed

Notice the term will as a noun (meanings 2-6 below, not meaning 1). See how the noun makes sense and is coherent. -->
God created his children with a will.

Will
2 of 3

noun

ˈwil
1
: a legal declaration of a person's wishes regarding the disposal of their property or estate after death
especially : a written instrument legally executed by which a person makes disposition of their estate to take effect after death

2
: desire, wish: such as
a
: disposition, inclination
where there's a will there's a way

b
: appetite, passion
c
: choice, determination

3
: the act, process, or experience of willing : volition

4
a
: mental powers manifested as wishing, choosing, desiring, or intending
b
: a disposition to act according to principles or ends
c
: the collective desire of a group
the will of the people

5
: the power of control over one's own actions or emotions
a man of iron will

6
a
: something desired
especially : a choice or determination of one having authority or power
b(1)
[from the phrase our will is which introduces it] : the part of a summons expressing a royal command
(2)
archaic : request, command

CoreyD said:
Since you do not have anything against this information,

The Bible says, at Hosea 14:4, in part...

The Hebrew expression nedabah (נְדָבָה) is rendered freewill offering, freely, plentiful, voluntary, offering, willingly, offering.
This Hebrew word comes from the Hebrew word nadab, of which Topical Lexicon says...
The verb נָדַב consistently underlines a movement of the heart that is neither coerced nor merely dutiful. It describes people stirred from within to give, serve, or step forward because they have first been moved by God. Throughout Scripture this spirit of readiness is linked to worship, stewardship, civic responsibility, and warfare, revealing a multifaceted biblical theology of voluntary devotion.

At 1 Corinthians 9:16-18, verse 17 says,

Paul uses the Greek word hekón: Willing, Voluntary. Which means of one's own free will.
According to Thayer's Greek Lexicon...
STRONGS NT 1635: ἑκών
ἑκών, ἑκοῦσα, ἑκον, unforced, voluntary, willing, of one's own will, of one's own accord: Romans 8:20; 1 Corinthians 9:17. (From Homer down.)

At Philemon 1:14, Paul says...

The Greek word hekousios - meaning free will, is the neuter of a derivative from hekon; voluntariness -- willingly, which is (an adjective, a primitive term) – properly, willing; "unforced, of one's own will, voluntary" (J. Thayer), i.e. acting on one's own accord. The root (hek-) emphasizes intentional, deliberate action (choice), i.e. "of free-will" (J. Thayer).
voluntary

adjective
Done or undertaken of one's own free will.
a voluntary decision to leave the job.
Acting or done willingly and without constraint or expectation of reward.
a voluntary hostage; voluntary community work.
Normally controlled by or subject to individual volition.
volition
The act of willing or choosing; the act of forming a purpose; the exercise of the will.
The result of an act or exercise of choosing or willing; a state of choice.
The power of willing or determining; will.

As well as this information
Adjective
▲
Voluntarily imposed upon oneself
voluntary

freewill

uncoerced

unforced

willing

willful

intended

deliberate

conscious

ungrudging

willingly given

intentional

free-willed

Then we have nothing else to talk about.
Freewill; Free will; Free-willed decisions are indeed a reality.
That is my point.

You need to prove that free will the noun exists in the moral immoral context. These terms you've listed above are neutral terms in the moral/immoral context. Therefore, in the moral/immoral context, you still have not proven Adam was not persuaded by the woman who was deceived, and you still haven't proven people can be good apart from God's Spirit. You need to prove these fruits listed below come according to the volition of mankind not by God's Spirit:

The Fruits of the Spirit

Love: A selfless, unconditional affection towards others, reflecting God's love for humanity.
Joy: A deep-seated sense of happiness and contentment that is not dependent on external circumstances.
Peace: A tranquility and assurance that comes from trusting in God, providing a sense of calm amidst chaos.
Patience: The ability to endure difficult situations and the imperfections of others without frustration.
Kindness: A disposition to be helpful, generous, and considerate towards others.
Goodness: Moral integrity and a commitment to doing what is right, even when it is difficult.
Faithfulness: Loyalty and reliability in relationships, reflecting trust in God and His promises.
Gentleness: A humble and considerate approach to others, characterized by meekness and compassion.
Self-Control: The ability to regulate one's emotions, thoughts, and behaviors, demonstrating discipline and restraint.
These fruits are seen as evidence of a believer's relationship with the Holy Spirit and are essential for living a Christ-centered life. They reflect the character of God and guide believers in their interactions with others and their spiritual growth.

You’ve shown that Scripture uses adjectives like hekón and hekousios to describe voluntary actions. But voluntariness is not the same as free will the noun. Scripture never says Adam had ‘free will’ as a faculty of autonomous moral choice. Instead, it says Adam was persuaded by Eve (Genesis 3:17), Satan’s will is bound to lies (John 8:44), and all who sin are slaves to sin (John 8:34). Paul says creation is subjected to vanity ‘not willingly’ (Romans 8:20). So yes, people act voluntarily, but that does not prove they possess free will in the moral/immoral sense. The only true free will Scripture acknowledges is the will set free from sin by Christ (Romans 6:18; John 8:36).”

Job 33:6 · 2025-12-01T21:20:10-0600

2PhiloVoid said:
Actually, language has at least a little to do with the contexts that affect how something is written, being that language is always used in tandem with the background culture and traditions of the peoples or peoples who developed the specific language used for a particular rhetorical moment or a piece of writing............even one that comes by way of a not completely known process of communication from God in ancient times.

Yea this is exactly right.

It's like in America how we have phrases like "it's raining cats and dogs". A non-american might be confused by a statement like that. But language and culture are quite entwined in many ways that I think most people are so accustomed to, that they don't even notice.

Man that job was a piece of cake!

Hey don't spill the beans, it's a secret!

Hey, stop pulling my leg!

Wow, he really hit the nail on the head.

Well, that only happens once in a blue moon.

And on and on. And every language and culture is entwined. But of course in the Bible we miss all of this because we simply have English translations.

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It's not as though God has a long nose and instructed Moses to call him "long of nose" in the Bible. It's just part of the Hebrew culture.

Adam, the Hebrew word for "humanity". Before it was even a name, it was simply a Hebrew word. Hebrew, a language invented by people that didn't even exist when Adam would have lived.

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bbbbbbb · 2025-12-01T20:56:16-0600

Today we returned to the dark, gloomy weather with a fine, misty snow which gradually accumulated on the 10+ inches on the ground.

timothyu · 2025-12-01T20:53:54-0600

Mark Quayle said:
What you just said is theology.

We made an institution out of it, not God

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