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Do Not Boast, Worry, or Assume

Do Not Boast

“Do not boast about tomorrow, for you do not know what a day may bring forth.” (Proverbs 27:1 NASB1995)

“Come now, you who say, ‘Today or tomorrow we will go to such and such a city, and spend a year there and engage in business and make a profit.’ Yet you do not know what your life will be like tomorrow. You are just a vapor that appears for a little while and then vanishes away. Instead, you ought to say, ‘If the Lord wills, we will live and also do this or that.’ (James 4:13-15 NASB1995)

We, as followers of Jesus Christ, should see our lives as under the control of Almighty God who is sovereign over all things. And we should never assume that the next minute, much less the next day, is going to be promised to us. Certainly we have to make plans for the future, but we should always consider and allow for God to do according to his will and his purpose for our lives, which might alter or change entirely what we had in mind.

And yes, we do not know what our lives will be like tomorrow. I certainly did not anticipate what my body has been going through the past couple of weeks, and I have no assurance that I will still be here tomorrow. I have to consider that every day is a gift from God, another day which he allowed me to live on this earth where he has given me the opportunity to share with the people of world what he is teaching me from his word each day.

I have a series of medical tests scheduled for next week, but there are no guarantees that I will live to have the tests done, or that the tests won’t get cancelled because the world is falling apart. Every moment of every day of our lives is in the hands of God, and we just need to pray for God’s will to be done in our lives, and in our circumstances, no matter what may come our way. For he has a plan and a purpose for it all. So we just need to trust him.

Do Not Worry

“So do not worry about tomorrow; for tomorrow will care for itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.” (Matthew 6:34 NASB1995)

This is so true! And worrying and fretting over our circumstances, or over the “what ifs” of life, is lack of faith in our God, number one, and it only makes us sick, number two, and it never makes anything better, number three. So we just have to put our lives and our circumstances in the hands of the Lord and trust him that he is going to do what is for our best, according to his will and purpose, and not according to our human flesh.

And so it is best not to spend much time at all feeding on the news media and what they are saying is happening or is about to happen, for in the USA the media cannot be trusted to tell us the truth, not that everyone lies to us, but many do. And there is so much deception going on, coming from the mouths of our government heads and via the media, including social media. And so we need to be very discerning people and not gullible or fearful.

For so much of what goes on in our news is just drama, drama, drama. So much is faked and AI generated with lies upon lies upon lies. Even the ones who are partially telling us the truth may also be bating us, or they may be withholding half the truth because they want us to believe them, or they want us to respond so that we go on record as aligning with “so and so” and with “such and such.” So much is deceptive and manipulative these days.

Do Not Assume

“So teach us to number our days, that we may present to You a heart of wisdom.” (Psalm 90:12 NASB1995)
“And working together with Him, we also urge you not to receive the grace of God in vain— for He says, ‘At the acceptable time I listened to you, and on the day of salvation I helped you.’ Behold, now is ‘the acceptable time,’ behold, now is ‘the day of salvation.’” (2 Corinthians 6:1-2 NASB1995)

Yes, Lord, teach us to number our days that we may present to you a heart of wisdom, humility, submission, surrender, and obedience to you and to your commands. For so many people these days seem to not take into account that we are not promised tomorrow, or even the rest of the day, and so many people are living wicked and immoral lives apart from God and his word in direct and willful disobedience to our Lord and to his commands.

And this goes right along with not receiving the grace of God in vain. And how does that happen? Well, God’s grace is not a free ride to heaven based on a profession of faith only. God’s grace, which is bringing us salvation, is teaching us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives while we wait for our Lord’s return. But if sin remains our practice, and not obedience, we don’t have life with God.

For Jesus Christ gave his life up for us on that cross to put our sins to death with him so that, by God-persuaded faith in him, we will now die to sin and follow our Lord in obedience to his commands, in daily practice, in the power of God. For Jesus died and rose from the dead, not just to forgive us our sins, but to free us from our slavery (addiction) to sin so we will now serve him with our lives in surrender and in submission to his perfect will.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

What the Lord Says

Based off Isaiah 43:1-44:5
An Original Work / February 24, 2014
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love


This is what the Lord says to you:
Fear not, for I have chosen you.
I have summoned you by your name.
You are mine. I died, you to save.

When you go through your trials, so deep,
I will be with you; you will not sink.
You are so precious always to me.
Trust in your Lord, Savior and King.

This is what the Lord says to you:
He who gave salvation to you;
Who delivered you from your sin;
Takes your burdens now upon Him:

Forget the former things of your life.
Give of your heart not now up to strife.
See all the new things I have for you.
Walk in vict’ry. Trust in what’s true.

This is what the Lord says to you:
He who made you; who will help you:
Do not fear what humans may do.
Walk in freedom. Follow what’s true.

Drink of my Spirit given for you.
Trust in my mercy, for I love you.
I have a plan for all of your life.
Follow my ways. Do what is right.

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Do Not Boast, Worry, or Assume
An Original Work / October 4, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

$1 Trump coin: Treasury shares draft design for America's 250th birthday

Too wordy for a coin.


How about “covfefe”?
No its not too wordy! I like the idea of the whole paragraph in tiny print that makes you want to read it just to see what it is.

"covfefe" could replace "fight" on the other side.

Actually lets just do his face on one side and a QR code to a donation site on the other.
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In Need of Prayer

I pray that God would be with you during this difficult time and that He would guide the doctors to give you complete healing. I pray that these tests would be pain-free, not at all scary, and that the resulting medical procedures would lead to you becoming completely cancer-free. In Jesus' name, amen.
Thank you, and God bless you! I appreciate your prayer for me very much!!
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WHY THE LAW HAS PASSED AWAY TODAY !!

Paul immediately has Timothy circumcised after the Acts 15 general council completes as we see in Acts 16. Then in Acts 21 Paul is challenged by Christian Jews in Jerusalem (dare we say "Messianic Jews") to address the accusations made against him. Specifically that he was supposedly telling Jews who converted to Christianity not to circumcise their children.

Acts 21:20 “You see, brother, how many thousands there are among the Jews of those who have believed, and they are all zealous for the Law; 21 and they have been told about you, that you are teaching all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children nor to walk according to the customs. 22 What, then, is to be done? They will certainly hear that you have come. 23 Therefore do this that we tell you. We have four men who are under a vow; 24 take them and purify yourself along with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads; and all will know that there is nothing to the things which they have been told about you, but that you yourself also walk orderly, keeping the Law. 25 But concerning the Gentiles who have believed, we wrote, having decided that they should abstain from meat sacrificed to idols and from blood and from what is strangled and from fornication.” 26 Then Paul took the men, and the next day, purifying himself along with them, went into the temple giving notice of the completion of the days of purification, until the sacrifice was offered for each one of them.

Now one line of argument is that Paul was doing the very thing that he was being accused of and yet inexplicably tried to deny it by going through the process that the Christ Jewish leadership recommended.

The other line of reasoning is that the Christian Jews knew that this was a false accusation against Paul, but that it kept surfacing so they wanted to put it to rest once and for all. Paul's compliance without a word of objection seems to support this option.

One thing is for certain the old Acts 15 controversy was settled since neither New Testament nor Old Testament laws dictated that "gentiles must be circumcised to be saved" which is the very thing being argued in Acts 15:1-2, and so it was refuted in Acts 15. They never go back against that decision.
Paul immediately has Timothy circumcised after the Acts 15 general council completes as we see in Acts 16. Then in Acts 21 Paul is challenged by Christian Jews in Jerusalem (dare we say "Messianic Jews") to address the accusations made against him. Specifically that he was supposedly telling Jews who converted to Christianity not to circumcise their children.

Acts 21:20 “You see, brother, how many thousands there are among the Jews of those who have believed, and they are all zealous for the Law; 21 and they have been told about you, that you are teaching all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children nor to walk according to the customs. 22 What, then, is to be done? They will certainly hear that you have come. 23 Therefore do this that we tell you. We have four men who are under a vow; 24 take them and purify yourself along with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads; and all will know that there is nothing to the things which they have been told about you, but that you yourself also walk orderly, keeping the Law. 25 But concerning the Gentiles who have believed, we wrote, having decided that they should abstain from meat sacrificed to idols and from blood and from what is strangled and from fornication.” 26 Then Paul took the men, and the next day, purifying himself along with them, went into the temple giving notice of the completion of the days of purification, until the sacrifice was offered for each one of them.

Now one line of argument is that Paul was doing the very thing that he was being accused of and yet inexplicably tried to deny it by going through the process that the Christ Jewish leadership recommended.

The other line of reasoning is that the Christian Jews knew that this was a false accusation against Paul, but that it kept surfacing so they wanted to put it to rest once and for all. Paul's compliance without a word of objection seems to support this option.

One thing is for certain the old Acts 15 controversy was settled since neither New Testament nor Old Testament laws dictated that "gentiles must be circumcised to be saved" which is the very thing being argued in Acts 15:1-2, and so it was refuted in Acts 15. They never go back against that decision.
And GAL6:13-17 was Witten AFTER the book. of Act , and we are not the Law of Moses , BUT SAVED BY GRACE

and we are to IMITATE Paul as he is the APOSTLE to. the. Gentiles as Witten in 1 Cor 11:1 and and we do not have PRIESTS
NOR DO WE have and Alter and animals sacrifices. !!

dan p
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A perspective on Baptism and the plan of salvation that I have not heard before

Jesus is the ONLY one who never sinned .... that's a given. The point is/was about Mary ... yes Mary sinned.
Wrong, obviously newborns never sinned Mary never sinned. And you see there are righteous people referred to in the Bible. This is the problem with taking one sentence, such as a lament, from the Bible and not taking others into account.
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Israel and the New Covenant.

What other faith is there?
Are you unaware of "faith in God" which denies Christ?
Where did I say I have a problem with John3:16 I hit reply to your post it wasn't there when I did so.
It's Jn 3:18.

My post doesn't appear in parts when I hit "Post reply."

It's either all there, or nothing is there.
And my post #159, following, shows no edit. . .it was all there:
The only way we are part of God's Israel is through faith in Christ (Jn 3:18).
Whereas you post #160 quoting my post #159, omitted "in Christ" from my post, and which has now been put back in your edit 5 minutes later.

Your omission in post #158 of "in Christ" in reposting my post #157 is misrepresentation.
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Can we talk about ADHD... and such ?

Is anyone else concerned about the rise of 'modern' conditions that grip lives and ensnare them in pharmaceutical dependence at great expense ?
Did the Creator know before time existed that would happen ? Of course ! Did He make provisions for everyone who calls on Him ot be saved ? (healed). Of course!
but is healing permitted anywhere ? Not really. Not on forums, in churches, nor even, surprising, in hospitals !

In caves? yes. In forests ? yes. "Outside the camp" where we follow Jesus ? YES!
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Morality without Absolute Morality

I think a sense of absolute morality has been useful. And so thats why we've encouraged it over the eras.

But that doesnt require it being a real thing. And theres perfectly good explanations for the human moral sense aside from invoking things from a proposed inaccessible beyond.

Also, the most terrific being declaring right or wrong still sounds kind of arbitrary. It has a "because I said so" vibe to it.
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God, omnibenevolent or omnipotent and omniscient?

Onmibenevolence, Omniscience, omnipotence?
These are manmade terms that depict concepts that even the human mind can't fully comprehend.

We shouldn't use them.

Thinking of God in these terms will usually lead to questioning God's intentions.

The most common result is asking why there is still evil in spite of the presence of God, why doesn't "omnipotent" God make it right, and other, similar questions.


Consider this:

Scripture tells us we will be refined, like silver.

What this means is that silver is not naturally pure... It naturally has imperfections that must be "burned out."

The product of this is called dross. Evil is the dross- It's the byproduct of refinement, or of making something pure.

God created life on a lifeless planet, using nonliving material to make a living being.

Naturally, to perfect His creation, He must refine it.
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Three ICE detainees shot, 2 dead, at ICE facility in Dallas; suspected shooter committed suicide.

Well, if they aren't dealt with and they're allowed to continue their horrific crimes, then they ARE poisoning the blood of our country.

If they're committing crimes the authorities will deal with it. That is meant to imply that I believe Sin/crime is NOT crossing the border into a righteous land nor poisoning our blood. I believe they want to work and be good citizens.
That's not what he was claiming.
That's what Hitler was claiming. Trump is talking about the blood of the millions of migrants here, documented or not, poisoning our country. He doesn't want birthright citizenship. What's that tell you?
Now you're showing a negative prejudice against "everyone".
About this below.
Aldebaran said:
But here in the USA where kids in school are taught that America is the great oppressor of the world and that we should pretty much be...
I think this above happens to some degree.

....ashamed of ourselves for being American (and especially white), pretty much anything antithetical to that idea must seem to be "Hitler" in nature. <--This sounds like the effects of the propaganda including the Hitler stuff.

childeye 2 said:
Is this what's on your chest? My guess is that everyone is entertaining all the propaganda. <-- I think this happens. Sentiments carry energy to move people. I'm saying if we want the lies to stop we need to not believe slander.

We did. That's why Trump is president instead of Biden/Kamala.
I'm sorry to say, I think Trump slanders more people than anybody I've ever seen.
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Younger Evangelicals less likely to believe that Jews are 'God's chosen people': poll

Evangelical Christians under the age of 35 are less likely than their elders to believe that Jews are God's "chosen people" and are more likely to support "Replacement Theology," according to a recently released survey.

Infinity Concepts and Grey Matter recently released a report titled "Crossroads of Belief: Evangelicals and the Jewish People" that examined how Evangelicals view the Jewish people. The report drew on an online study conducted earlier this year, which gathered data from a sample of 1,008 Evangelical Protestants. No margin of error was stated.

While 49% of overall respondents said that they believe Jews are God's chosen people, only 29% of respondents below the age of 35 agreed.

By contrast, 50% of respondents aged 35-44 said the Jews were God's chosen people, as well as 51% of those aged 45-54, 55% of those aged 55-64 and 56% of those aged 65 and above.

Continued below.
They also don't know the Word of God at all, unless their parents are believers and made efforts to teach them. We live in a very different society than the one in which we and previous generations grew up. So how would they know?
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Is an Apology Necessary?

"Sometimes you can do everything right...and still fail." -- Jean-Luc Picard (Star Trek: The Next Generation)

If you did everything right and still failed...do you own anyone an apology, even if your failure caused them injury?
Biblically a payment for the injury or harm or loss caused, but perhaps

"CHRISTIANS NEVER APOLOGIZE - Faith Bible Church

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https://www.faithbible.com › blog › 2021/01/25 › real-c...




Jan 25, 2021 — In the Bible, the primary means to seek reconciliation is through asking for forgiveness[4], not by apologizing"

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Muslim Fundamentalism

1) view politics as a means to move government and laws to reflect their values and positions
2) generally have women in a subsidiary role to men in life and in politics
3) be anti-gay and strongly oppose rights for homosexuals
4) believe that the majority persecutes or wants to persecute them
5) opposes compromise, especially with those of their faith
6) believes and strong military and strong national police force to enforce the will of the leading politicians
7) believe in autocratic government (certainly trusting the masses and democracy can't be the right path)
8) prefer to focus on punishing sinners rather than focusing on the support of the poor and weak (a strong element of Islam)
1, 2, 3, and 7 are part of Islam and not just "fundamentalism," and this is arguably true for many of the other points as well.

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Megachurch Pastor Ed Young: Half-hour sermons are 'way too long'

Depends. If it is totally anointed like the Sermon on the Mount (!!!) by Jesus and a handful of others I have heard in my lifetime, one where even the babies remained silent so we could listen (I had one at that time), it can't be long enough.

Most, where they are just blathering on with some prepared message, especially if they didn't even write it themselves (yes, they sell canned messages (!!) and today even use AI), 20 minues is too long.

It's up to the listener to distinguish between the hirelings and the actual shepherds, and he had better know the Word very well to do so.
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The Lost House of Israel

"The phrase "circumcision not made by human hands" refers to a spiritual transformation described in Colossians 2, where believers are said to be circumcised in Christ through a divine act that removes the sinful nature. This spiritual circumcision is not a physical procedure but an inward change accomplished by Christ, symbolizing the removal of the "body of the sins of the flesh". It signifies the cutting away of sin and the old self, made possible through faith in Christ's work on the cross. This concept applies to all believers, regardless of gender or ethnic background, and is contrasted with the physical circumcision required under the Old Covenant, which Paul taught was not necessary for salvation under the New Covenant. The phrase emphasizes that this transformation is initiated by God, not by human effort."
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