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Testing AI in Reading & Comprehension
- By Chesterton
- Recreation Room
- 61 Replies
I've got you beat. I was born when the highest technology machine in a house was the television, with no remote control. You had to walk across the room to change the channel.
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Intercessory Prayer
- By FaithT
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
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OFF TOPIC, but Fr. Mike is really handsome.CHALLENGE
“Unanswered prayer disproves Christ’s teaching on prayer. Jesus said, ‘If you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, “Move from here to there,” and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you’ (Matt. 17:20b). But experience shows that we can’t do such things by prayer.”
DEFENSE
Jesus’ teaching is more complex than this challenge suggests. It doesn’t involve a promise that we’ll always get what we ask.
First, Jesus makes the statement when the disciples have just failed to exorcise a demon. When they ask why they were unable to drive it out, he says, “Because of your little faith” (Matt. 17:20a). If the apostles, who were accustomed to working miracles, including driving out demons (Matt. 10:1, 5–8), could have inadequate faith, then we may, too. (Also, in this instance the disciples were trying to cast out a particularly powerful type of demon; Mark 9:29).
Continued below.
Unanswered Prayer
DAY 338 CHALLENGE “Unanswered prayer disproves Christ’s teaching on prayer. Jesus said, ‘If you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to t...www.catholic.com
Why doesn’t God always answer our prayers? - The Catholic Voice
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Why doesn’t God answer my prayers? - Catholic Digest
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Do you keep the Sabbath? (poll)
- By Hentenza
- Sabbath and The Law
- 34 Replies
Yep. Encapsulated in Jesus two love commandments except for the 4th commandment whivh Jesus fulfilled on Himself and became the Lord of the sabbath.
Yep. Encapsulated in Jesus two love commandments.
Yep. Encapsulated in Jesus two love commandments.
Think about this one for a bit. First, the word commandment does not appear in the verse.
“Where then is boasting? It has been excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith. For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. Or is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one. Do we then nullify the Law through faith? Far from it! On the contrary, we establish the Law.”
Romans 3:27-31 NASB2020
Romans 3:27-31 Where then is boasting? It has been excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith. For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. Or is God the G | New American Standard Bible - NA
Where then is boasting? It has been excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith. For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. Or is God the G
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Secondly, which law is Paul establishing? He tells us in verse 27, the Law of faith not the law of works (OT law including the 1v commandments). Why? Because Paul tells us in Gal.3:12 that the law is NOT of faith.
“However, the Law is not of faith; on the contrary, “The person who performs them will live by them.””
Galatians 3:12 NASB2020
Galatians 3:12 However, the Law is not of faith; on the contrary, “THE PERSON WHO PERFORMS THEM WILL LIVE BY THEM.” | New American Standard Bible - NASB (NASB2020) | Download The Bible App Now
However, the Law is not of faith; on the contrary, “THE PERSON WHO PERFORMS THEM WILL LIVE BY THEM.”
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Follow the verses in Rom. 4. What is Paul talking about when he says that where there is no law there is no sin?
“For the promise to Abraham or to his descendants that he would be heir of the world was not through the Law, but through the righteousness of faith. For if those who are of the Law are heirs, then faith is made void and the promise is nullified; for the Law brings about wrath, but where there is no law, there also is no violation. For this reason it is by faith, in order that it may be in accordance with grace, so that the promise will be guaranteed to all the descendants, not only to those who are of the Law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all, (as it is written: “I have made you a father of many nations”) in the presence of Him whom he believed, that is, God, who gives life to the dead and calls into being things that do not exist. In hope against hope he believed, so that he might become a father of many nations according to that which had been spoken, “So shall your descendants be.” Without becoming weak in faith he contemplated his own body, now as good as dead since he was about a hundred years old, and the deadness of Sarah’s womb; yet, with respect to the promise of God, he did not waver in unbelief but grew strong in faith, giving glory to God, and being fully assured that what God had promised, He was able also to perform. Therefore it was also credited to him as righteousness. Now not for his sake only was it written that it was credited to him, but for our sake also, to whom it will be credited, to us who believe in Him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead, He who was delivered over because of our wrongdoings, and was raised because of our justification.”
Romans 4:13-25 NASB2020
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For the promise to Abraham or to his descendants that he would be heir of the world was not through the Law, but through the righteousness of faith. For if those who are of the Law are heirs, then fai
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Paul uses the example of Abraham. Look at the verse that follows, for this reason it is by faith, in order to be in accordance with grace thst the promise is guaranteed to all. By the wrath of the law the promise was guaranteed to no one. The law is not of faith and not in accordance to grace. Now, follow the verses until it tells you why. Abraham faith was credited to him as righteousness the same way that the believers faith is credited as righteousness through Jesus sacrifice on the cross BECAUSE of our wrongdoing. The result of this faith is justification.
Do you know what justification is? Here it is:
“On account of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, the demands of the law of God are met, and believers are granted the status of being righteous in the sight of God.
Justification is grounded in the death of Jesus Christ
Jesus Christ’s death shields believers from God’s wrath Ro 5:9 See also Ro 3:24; 4:25; 5:18; 1Pe 2:24
Jesus Christ’s death fulfils the demands of the law of God Ro 8:3-4 See also Ro 3:25-26; Gal 3:13; 1Jn 2:2
Justification is grounded in the resurrection of Jesus Christ Ro 4:25; 10:9-10 See also Ac 2:22-39; 4:10-12; 17:30-31; 1Pe 3:18-21
Justification means believers are reckoned as righteous through the death of Jesus Christ Ro 5:19; 1Co 1:30; 2Co 5:21 See also 1Co 6:9-11; Php 3:8-9 The term “imputation” is used to refer to the process by which God treats believers as being righteous in his sight on account of Jesus Christ’s death.
Justification is received by faith Ro 1:17 pp Gal 3:11 See also Hab 2:4; Ro 5:1; Eph 2:8
The example of Abraham Ge 15:6 See also Ro 4:1-5,9-22; Gal 3:6-9,16-18
The example of David Ro 4:6-8; Ps 32:1-2
Manser, Martin H. 2009. Dictionary of Bible Themes: The Accessible and Comprehensive Tool for Topical Studies. London: Martin Manser.
What are the results of justification?
Justification brings a changed relationship with God and a future hope. It will also bring a change in behaviour.
Peace with God, access to his presence and the hope of his glory Ro 5:1-2 See also Ro 8:30; Tit 3:7
Assurance of forgiveness Ro 5:9; Eph 1:13-14
Knowing Jesus Christ and participating in his resurrection Php 3:10-11 See also Ro 6:5
Freedom from condemnation Ro 8:31-34 See also Ro 8:1-4; Gal 3:13-14
Freedom from domination by sin Ro 6:14,17-18
Adoption into God’s family See also Ro 8:15-17; Gal 4:6-7
Righteousness in the sight of God Ro 5:17; Php 3:8-9 See also Ro 3:20-22; 1Co 1:30
Justification must lead to good works Jas 2:24 See also Ro 6:15-18; Gal 5:13-16; Jas 2:14-26
Manser, Martin H. 2009. Dictionary of Bible Themes: The Accessible and Comprehensive Tool for Topical Studies. London: Martin Manser.
The law does not justify so why would I want to be under the law? We were put to death in regard to the law. We belong to Christ who died for the propitiation of our sins. We have been released from the law.
“Therefore, my brothers and sisters, you also were put to death in regard to the Law through the body of Christ, so that you might belong to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. For while we were in the flesh, the sinful passions, which were brought to light by the Law, were at work in the parts of our body to bear fruit for death. But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.”
Romans 7:4-6 NASB2020
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Therefore, my brothers and sisters, you also were put to death in regard to the Law through the body of Christ, so that you might belong to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that
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So again, Why would we need the law if we have something much better?
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