SabbathBlessings said:

I am asking you something very specific.

How did the son of Hagar come about, please post Scripture and why did it come about that way.

How did the son of Sarah come about and why did it come about that way.

This is the topic, nothing else.

Thanks

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Hagar and SARAH are allegories for the two covenants. Ishmael inherited land, so did Israel, as 12 princes. Which seed was to go into slavery? Which seed went into exile to serve other rulers for punishment? Why? because they were under the law. They were still under the kingdom of ROME!

Beats eating kumquats at times!

MQATS

Always in His Presence said:

UK has an income tax rate of 40% if you make more than 52k

France has an income tax rate of 30%

Sweden has an income tax rate of 52%

If you truly believe the taxpayer is not paying for healthcare, you are greatly deceived

30-50% of your income for life.

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Please point out where I made such a claim? The topic was healthcare costs and results.
And you pulled at least some of those numbers from someone's behind. Average tax rate in Sweden for example is ~23%. Please don't tell me you're yet another one who doesn't under how tax brackets work, that seems to be a very common occurrence amongst US conservatives.

Postvieww said:

In 2024 Newsom and Bass made cuts to firefighting budgets while Newsom authorized almost 10 billion for healthcare for illegal immigrants. It’s all on your keyboard my friend.

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Was that an attempt to avoid addressing the lie that someone told you which you mistakenly repeated as a fact earlier?

stevevw said:

I don't think I could do what he does and it makes me wonder if those such as other leaders from Turning point or from any Christian group or an individual Christian who went out in public speaking the same way. Or just evangelising and speaking the truth of the gospel would they also face persecution and death.

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Yes. I believe that if we go out and share not only the Good News but also the bad news, we will face persecution. The bad news must always accompany the Good News.
The bad news is that we have sinned and broken God’s law, and because of this, we deserve death. Without that truth, the Good News makes little sense. Most people believe they are good and that their goodness will earn them heaven, but when we lovingly show them that they are not good, it often offends, and that offence can grow into ridicule or persecution.
Jesus did the same. He exposed sin, and the world hated Him for it. He said, “The world... hates Me because I testify about it, that its deeds are evil.”

In John 15:20 He warns, “A servant is not greater than his master. If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you.”
That’s a sobering verse. Many Christians today have never faced real persecution. We say we follow Christ, but do we truly walk in His footsteps? Too often, believers stay within the safety of the church walls, hoping people will come in to hear the Gospel. But Jesus told us to go and proclaim it to everyone.
The early disciples were fishers of men. While Modern disciples are often little more than aquarium keepers.

stevevw said:

I think maybe Charlie has set a bench mark that in one way or another for Christians that we not be afraid to stand with Christ even if the going gets tough.

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Well said. We have been given the Holy Spirit so that we would have a drive or the strength (power) to go and preach the Gospel (Acts 1:8). The Holy Spirit will also give us boldness (Acts 4:31) and clarity (Acts 2).

zippy2006 said:

So you are unable to follow the argument because you can't understand what it would mean to talk about the Overton window of a subculture? Even the original usage admits of various localities of government, which will each have different Overton windows (local, state, federal, for example).

I don't see that it muddies it at all, given that the concept of an Overton window has to do with the spectrum of what is perceived as acceptable or unacceptable discourse. That concept is useful regardless of the dataset or group it quantifies over. What is being muddied if we remain clear about when we are talking about the subculture and when we are talking about the broader culture?

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Ok, so the mainstream of a non mainstream subculture. (We could even do the 2nd derivative).

I read your 2nd pp like 3 times and Im still not confident I know what you were getting at. Dishonestly applying non main Overton expectations to the mainstream? I dont see how one could get away with that. The mainstream could just dismiss you. They have the money, after all.

o_mlly said:

If all acts of rape are wrong then rape is intrinsically wrong, absolutely wrong.

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Thats easy to say. And I agree as a matter of my own judgement.

But it gets interesting when we try to be precise about what wrong means and where our sense of it comes from. Words like intrinsic and absolute have certain implications that Im not sure are correct. Depends on exactly what you mean.

Michie said:

He passed around 3am. Thanks to all who prayed.

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I’m so sorry. May he rest in peace.

ThatRobGuy said:

Some of the 10 things they list aren't really "progressive"

"Living in San Fran in the late 80's early 90s"
"Portraying Sexual Harassment as bad"
"Domestic abuse is bad and has consequences"

...aren't exactly what I would call politically polarizing progressive social commentary.

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Today, sure. In the late '80s/early '90s though, the argument could definitely be made.

ThatRobGuy said:

That aside...
My point is that if someone is making some sort of entertainment marketed towards kids, that's intentionally seeking to push the envelope and shape opinions on a controversial subject (knowing full well that parents are already having a hard enough time trying to moderate what their kids see in the age of social media, smart devices, and streaming services), they can't act as if "the other side is just being petty and unreasonable -- what's the big deal??, it's just a kids show" when there is backlash or calls for boycotting.

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The viewpoint coming from the right (at least in this thread) is that the show is inappropriate for children because apparently openly LGBT characters are considered "sexual content." That is, frankly, unreasonable, and I will continue to call it out as such. It's especially laughable because this is a show from three years ago that only got two seasons. Literally the only reason why anyone knows (or cares) about it is that a right-wing ragebait account dredged up a clip from the show and shared it on Twitter.

ThatRobGuy said:

Conservative-leaning parents are already fighting more of an uphill battle on that front than progressive-leaning parents due to the fact that the realms of entertainment and academia are already tilted in favor of the progressive viewpoints.

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Okay? If you want to espouse viewpoints that fall outside of the "mainstream" (the mainstream here being that shows about LGBT characters and issues are acceptable), then you're going to have to go to more effort to make sure that your children are shielded from the mainstream viewpoints.

Look, if you want to cancel your Netflix subscription because you object to the content they have, that's fine. Words cannot express how little I care whether or not anyone has a Netflix subscription. But if you're going to go on social media and broadcast that intent everywhere, sharing reasons that are clearly bigoted, then yeah, I'm going to call you out on it.

keras said:

Which is becoming more and more likely, as we get closer to 6000 years since Adam.

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Humans have been around for way longer than 5,000+ years.

Free2bHeretical4Him! said:

I understand, because of your theological position, your interpretation. But I don’t think it is consistent within the context of Ecclesiastes. I’ll just post the entire chapter, but I see nothing that indicates King Solomon is speaking to his son about anything more than man/mankind in general.
Probably best to move on from this side discussion as it is probably worthy of its own thread, and indeed most certainly already has been discussed in former threads. Please feel free to close out our discussion, just as I have, with any concluding comments you feel relevant to our brief but interesting conversation.
”Remember also your Creator in days of your youth, || While that the evil days do not come, || Nor the years have arrived, that you say, || “I have no pleasure in them.” While that the sun is not darkened, and the light, || And the moon, and the stars, || And the thick clouds returned after the rain. In the day that keepers of the house tremble, || And men of strength have bowed themselves, || And grinders have ceased, because they have become few. And those looking out at the windows have become dim, And doors have been shut in the street. When the noise of the grinding is low, || And [one] rises at the voice of the bird, || And all daughters of song are bowed down. Also of that which is high they are afraid, || And of the low places in the way, || And the almond-tree is despised, || And the grasshopper has become a burden, || And want is increased, || For man is going to his perpetual home, || And the mourners have gone around through the street. While that the silver cord is not removed, || And the golden bowl broken, || And the pitcher broken by the fountain, || And the wheel broken at the well. And the dust returns to the earth as it was, || And the spirit returns to God who gave it. Vanity of vanities, said the preacher, the whole [is] vanity. And further, because the preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge, and gave ear, and sought out—he made right many allegories. The preacher sought to find out pleasing words, and [that] written [by] the upright—words of truth. Words of the wise [are] as the goads, and as nails planted [by] the masters of collections, they have been given by one Shepherd. And further, from these, my son, be warned; the making of many scrolls has no end, and much study [is] a weariness of the flesh. The end of the whole matter let us hear: “Fear God, and keep His commands, for this [is] the whole of man. For every work God brings into judgment, with every hidden thing, whether good or bad.”“
‭‭Ecclesiastes‬ ‭12‬:‭1‬-‭14‬ ‭LSV‬‬

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The OT must be understood in the light of the new revelation in the NT.

JimR-OCDS said:

The felony charges against Donald Trump were nothing but political.

Everyone could see the writing on the wall except the left who like to keep referring back to the
34 felony convictions.

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You do not have trust in our legal system. Nd you give a free pass to him.

I used to do powerlifting at a public gym then switched to my home gym 2 months ago due to the place being so crowded. Until last week I only had a womens Olympic bar so I was limited on the amount of weight I could put on there (due to the size of the collars) with my thick bumper plates.

But then I found a nice fancy mens Olympic bar at one of my local amazon auctions. This allows me to load up the weight properly for my favorite exercise: box squats. So yesterday I got up to 415 for 5 reps on box squats and it felt great. I was actually surprised to have retained strength for the heavy weights after not training that way in over 2 months. Back then I was doing 450 for 5, but to do 415 and it not feel bad seems like a great place to start.

Now my goal is to push past my 510 max by the end of the year!

Amo2 said:

Enough for the highest angel in heaven to rebel against God through false accusations against His character, and take a third of the angels with him.

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So rapes can happen in Heaven?

Whenever I read this passage of Scripture in Isaiah 55, it reminds me of Jesus’ words to the church in Laodicea in Revelation 3:18-19:


So, what does it all mean? For this is speaking largely figuratively and not of literal food and drink and garments and salve, etc. What is the spiritual condition of the people in Isaiah’s passage? In the passage in Revelation? And how can we apply these messages to our lives and to the church and to the world today? How can we relate the times in which we now live to the messages God was giving to the people through Isaiah and through John?

In both cases these messages were spoken to people who professed to be of God, to be his people, but who were not living up to God’s standard of righteousness. So God was calling them to repentance, to have a change of mind and heart and behavior consistent with one who is following Jesus Christ with his life. This was a call to leave their fleshly lives behind them and to now live holy and morally pure and upright lives for the glory and praise of God and for genuine salvation from sin and eternal life with God.

In our world and church today this would be speaking of people who give lip service to God only but who do not follow him in walks of obedience to his commands and in holy living. Or they may be those of genuine faith in the Lord who have wandered from the truth, or who have fallen back into sin, or who have become spiritually lazy and slothful and nonchalant about their relationships with the Lord and their walks of faith and obedience to him. So they need a fire lit under them to bring back that passion for the Lord.

This is a call to full surrender of our lives to Jesus Christ, to walk in his ways and in his truth and righteousness, and to leave our lives of sin behind us. And this is a call to walks of obedience to our Lord and to his commands and to no longer walk in sin or to play with sin, gambling that God will still let us into his heaven even if we live for the flesh and walk in sin and ignore him and his commands. And we need to take this to heart, for if sin is what we practice, and not obedience to God, we will not inherit eternal life with God.

For God’s grace, which is bringing us salvation, is training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives while we wait for Jesus’ return. For Christ “gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.” “For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.” (See Titus 2:11-14; Ephesians 2:8-10)

We, as God’s holy people, are to be those who hunger and thirst after righteousness and holiness, and who long for the Word of the Lord that we may walk in his truth. We are to be diligent in persevering in our walks of faith and obedience to our Lord and to not be slothful and nonchalant. Our lives are to be committed to walks of obedience to our Lord and to no longer walking in sin, and to letting the Holy Spirit lead us each day in his truth and in what our Lord would have us do in service to him for his purposes.

We should be passionate about God’s word and about obeying our Lord and about living the truth of the gospel and about sharing that truth with others so that they can come to know him, too. And that truth is that Jesus died and was raised from the dead that we might die to sin daily and walk in obedience to his commands in holy living. That is the essence of the gospel message, but it includes the fact that if obedience to our Lord is not our practice, but if sin is still our practice, we will not enter the kingdom of God.

Now, with regard to the words, “without price” or “without cost,” we should not take these words to mean that there is no cost to us at all if we decide to believe in Jesus Christ and to follow him with our lives. While it is true that Jesus Christ paid the price with his death on that cross for our freedom from sin, it is not true that nothing is expected of us or that there will be no cost to following Jesus with our lives. Can anyone of us come to faith in Jesus Christ of our own accord? No! Only as God the Father draws us to Christ.

For all throughout the New Testament, Jesus and his NT apostles told us of the cost of following Jesus with our lives. We will be hated and persecuted as Jesus was hated and persecuted. And if truly we are obeying our Lord in doing what he says we are to do, as his followers, we are to be speaking the truth of his word to each other, in love. And we are to be telling all people that they must die to sin and obey our Lord, in practice. So, we are going to be rejected, cast aside as unwanted, and even killed for our faith.

[Matthew 5:10-12; Matthew 10:16-25,34-39; Matthew 24:9-14; Luke 6:22-23; Luke 12:49-53; Luke 21:12-17; John 15:18-21]

Biblical faith in Jesus Christ means to be persuaded of God. And what does God persuade us to do? He persuades us to deny self, die daily to sin, and to follow him in walks of obedience to his commands. For, if we hold on to our lives of living in sin and for self, we will lose them for eternity, regardless of what our lips profess. But if for Jesus’ sake we deny self (lose our lives), die daily to sin, and follow him in walks of obedience to his commands, by the grace of God, we have the hope of eternal life with God (see Luke 9:23-26).

Gospel:[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

Living Water

An Original Work / November 21, 2013
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love
Based off Various Scriptures

My people have forsaken Me,
Their Savior, who died on a tree;
Made idols, and they worshipped them;
So empty, they will ne’er fulfill.

Lord, You are the hope of Your chosen ones.
Those who turn away from You will be shamed;
The Spring of Living Water left behind.

Living Water satisfies.

The thirsty, let them come and drink;
Believe in Jesus as their King;
The gift of Jesus given them,
So they will never thirst again.

Indeed, the Living Water flows within.
It springs up like a fountain cleansing sin.
Eternal life in heaven promised them.

Living Water glorifies.

Oh people, won’t you come to Him?
Obey Him and repent of sin.
Let Jesus come and live within.
Surrender all your life to Him.

My people, won’t you turn your hearts to Me?
Forsake your idols and then you’ll be free.
Won’t you come now to Me on bended knee?

Living Water sanctifies.

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Listen to God and Eat What is Good
An Original Work originally posted on October 15, 2024
Reposted (with slight editing) on October 5, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

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Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of our death.
Amen

ViaCrucis said:

I'm sure there probably are people who believe the Church has replaced Israel, but the overwhelming majority of the time the accusation of "Replacement Theology" is nothing more than a pejorative to dismiss what is basic, biblical, and historic Christian teaching.

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It's not "replacement" theology, it is fulfillment theology.

ViaCrucis said:

St. Paul gives us a key to helping us get our cards laid out.
"I ask, then, has God rejected His people? By no means! For I myself am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, a member of the tribe of Benjamin. God has not rejected His people whom He foreknew. Do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he appeals to God against Israel? 'Lord, they have killed Your prophets, they have demolished Your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my life.' But what is God's reply to him? 'I have kept for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.' So too at the present time there is a remnant, chosen by grace. But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace." - Romans 11:1-6

The Apostle compares the remnant of faithful Israel who refused to bow to Baal with those who have embraced Jesus as Messiah and Lord. This is relevant, because when the Apostle talks about the inclusion of the Gentiles, he speaks of the Gentiles as being included in the commonwealth of Israel, as wild branches grafted onto the olive tree.

"Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called 'the uncircumcision' by what is called 'the circumcision', which is made in the flesh by hands--remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one and has broken down in His flesh the dividing wall of hostility by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that He might create in Himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, and might reconcile both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility. And He came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who are near. For through Him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the cornerstone, in Whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. In Him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit." - Ephesians 2:11-22

In the Messiah the Gentiles have been grafted in, brought in, and along with believing Jews are together one new people; there is neither Jew nor Greek. In Christ both Jew and Gentile are one. The Gentiles are now children of the same promises given to Israel, they are members of Israel, and Abraham is the common father of all who have faith in the Messiah. And in this way the promise made to Abraham is fulfilled, that he would be the father of many nations, through the promised Seed--that is, Jesus Christ (see Galatians 3:16).

What has happened to Israel then? Has it been replaced? Of course not. Israel has always been Israel. But Gentiles, formerly estranged, foreign, having no participation in the covenant and promises of Israel are now, through the Messiah, included and are full citizens along with the Jews. So that Jew and Gentile, together in the Messiah, are Israel. But even as it was in the days of Elijah, where there were those who were faithful to YHWH and those who were unfaithful; faithfulness to YHWH is in believing in the Messiah--in Jesus. Not that God has turned His back on the Jewish people; but that those who are in the Messiah remain faithful to YHWH; and every Gentile who formerly was an alien and a stranger has come to know YHWH and is now a member of His House, His Covenant People. It is not circumcision in the flesh that matters, but spiritual circumcision of the heart that matters--for the one who has been baptized has put off the old self and is made new in the Messiah (Galatians 3:21, Colossians 2:11-13).

For there is a New Covenant established in the blood of the Messiah, as it was in ancient times foretold by Jeremiah the Prophet,

"Behold the days are coming, declares YHWH, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant that they broke, though I was as their husband, declares YHWH. For this is the covenant that I will made with the house of Israel after those days, declares YHWH: I will put My law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they will be My people. And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, 'Know YHWH,' for they shall all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares YHWH. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more." - Jeremiah 31:31-34

The author of Hebrews adds this:

"In speaking of a new covenant, He makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away." - Hebrews 8:13

The Old Covenant was established in order that it might serve to point to Messiah and His new and better Covenant. For Christ doesn't point to Moses, but Moses to Christ. It is Christ who is the spiritual rock in the wilderness (1 Corinthians 10:1-4). He brings in a new and better priesthood, one that isn't established on the basis of genealogy, but which precedes Aaron and Levi, in the order of Melchizedek. And He offers as Great High Priest the once-and-perfect Sacrifice of Himself which has atoned for the sins of the whole world.

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The Church has not replaced Israel. The Church is Israel.

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Precisely. . .the people of God are only those who believe in Jesus Christ.
Unbelieving Israel, having been cut off for unbelief, is no longer part of the tree of the people of God.
They are on the same footing as unbelieving Gentiles; i.e., salvation is only by faith in Jesus Christ.
"And IF (not "when") they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in. . ." (Ro 11:23), as will the Gentiles.

ViaCrucis said:

I, a Gentile, am a member of the commonwealth of Israel through the Messiah; and therefore can call Abraham my father. Not in arrogance, as though God has turned His back on the Jewish people, or as though I am as a wild shoot grafted upon the tree better than the natural branch which was pruned (for if a natural branch can be pruned, how much more the grafted branch?). But I am, along with all Jewish and Gentile believers in the Messiah, members of God's household which is of faith, established by His grace, that all who believe belong to Him.

Not as though God has turned His face away from those Jews who do not believe, but that they too should also repent and believe the Good News. Even as this Gospel is to go forth to all nations, beginning in Jerusalem, throughout all of Judea and Samaria, and unto the uttermost parts of the earth--so that every Jew and Gentile, every man, woman, and child, whether they be king or peasant, slave or free, rich or poor, might hear this Good News, and be transformed by the power of God's grace, and brought into the peace of Christ, reconciled to God, and have a place at the Table. For we should affirm with St. Paul, that we are "not ashamed of the Gospel, for it is the power of God to save all who believe, the Jew first, and also the Greek." (Romans 1:16), for the Apostle will go on to say in Romans 11, where I first began quoting in this post, that "God has consigned all to disobedience in order that He might have mercy on all" (Romans 11:32). For whether Jew or Gentile "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by His grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus," (Romans 3:23-24).

Therefore, God wills and desires that all who repent and be saved. It is the good will of God that all things should be united together in the Messiah.

"In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace, which He lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight, making known to us the mystery of His will, according to His purpose, which He set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in Him, things in heaven and things on earth." - Ephesians 1:7-10

"I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands, and crying out with a loud voice, 'Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!' And all the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures, and they fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, saying, 'Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom and thanksgiving and honor and power and might be to our God forever and ever! Amen!'"- Revelation 7:9-12

"And He who was seated on the throne said, 'Behold, I am making all things new.' Also He said, 'Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.' And He said to me, 'It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I will give from the spring of the water of life without payment. The one who overcomes will have this inheritance, and I will be his God, and he will be My son." - Revelation 21:5-7

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Holy God. Holy Almighty. Holy Immortal. Glory to You.

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FAITH-IN-HIM said:

Fighting will persist after the war, just with new character. Instated of IDF , it will be Hamas who will be fighting on the street of Gaza.

If Hamas oversees Gaza they will oppress their own people, and fire rockets toward Jerusalem.

But no one would care because Palestine will be killing Palestinian, and Palestinian firing rockets, all the liberal will be ok with the situation in Palestine as long as IDF don’t retaliate. We have seen this movie again and again past 25 years.

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Let's not pretend that it is only liberals that are apathetic to this.

essentialsaltes said:

In related hurt feefees...

MAGA Figures Call for Creed to Play Rival Superbowl Show​

After Bad Bunny was confirmed as the performer, Posobiec posted on X "By every measure Creed has earned the Superbowl halftime gig. It is time for them to take us Higher. To a place with golden streets."

Auron MacIntyre, the podcast host and author, posted on X, "Demanding that Trump replace him with Creed through executive order." As of reporting, that post has been viewed 1.6 million times.

In November of 2024, a post went viral on X claiming that Creed had replaced Kendrick Lamar as the Super Bowl halftime show performer. The post amassed over 100,000 views but was ultimately untrue.

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Creed, who the heck wants them? After the ex-band members of Creed dumped their fellow Alter Bridge front man Myles Kennedy to restart Creed, I wouldn't go see them even at a horse and pony show.

GoldenBoy89 said:

What about Portland or Los Angeles or DC or Baltimore or Philly?

Are all these cities near international borders?

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ICE is not the Border Patrol. CBP is assisting ICE, I don’t know all the locations they’re involved with

AI Overview


Yes, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), which includes Border Patrol, works with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), as they are both part of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and are involved in enforcing U.S. immigration laws. While CBP focuses on security at and between ports of entry, ICE conducts interior enforcement, including investigations and removals. Collaboration between the agencies happens through various avenues, such as when Border Patrol assists ICE with interior enforcement efforts, leading to public protests and political tension in sanctuary cities.

Key Differences and Collaboration

• • CBP (including Border Patrol):
    Primarily responsible for border security, preventing unlawful entry, and enforcing immigration laws at the border and between ports of entry.
  • ICE:
    Focuses on interior enforcement, such as identifying, arresting, and removing individuals who violate immigration laws within the United States.

How They Work Together

• • Shared Department:
    Both agencies operate under the Department of Homeland Security, allowing for coordinated efforts in immigration enforcement.
  • Interior Enforcement Support:
    Border Patrol agents have been deployed to assist ICE with interior immigration enforcement operations, particularly in areas outside the immediate border region.
  • Information Sharing and Joint Operations:
    As part of the broader immigration enforcement framework, there are partnerships and information exchanges between CBP and ICE to achieve their respective mandates.

So like, what's the difference between Adultism and Adultery?

Is this just a case of teenage angst?

GoldenBoy89 said:

No calls for boycott from prominent right wing influencers?

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I don't think anybody from the right wing uses TikTok (except maybe their kids and they probably don't let their parents know they are using it). If they do, "BOYCOTT IT NOW!!!". How was that? I personally would not allow a kid to have a cell phone until they are at least in High School. Unfortunately, most people would disagree with me so I'll have to pass my complaint onto Trump and see if he can executive order that proposal .

rjs330 said:

Rhis is FANTASTIC! So glad they are doing this.

The good citizens who are here should be glad their apartment building is being liberated from these criminal.illegal gangs. If it was me, I'd be fine with being held while they checked things out. Cause I'd know rhey were involved in a very dangerous situation and don't have time to work their way through every person immediately.

I'd be thanking them and showing my gratitude for getting rid of these terrible people.

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I believe this is called licking the boots.