Strong in Him said:

You don't recognise the truth of TFE; big difference.

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There's a whole thread on this, I suggest you go read it.

7thKeeper said:

And when you've done all of those and still can't afford it?

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Declare bankruptcy every so often?

There are always going to be people with issues in every organization. While there are dirty cops, I don't hate all cops because their job is to keep the streets safe. Same with ICE. The point of ICE is to detain and deport people who are here illegally. I agree with this. Allowing people to come into our country illegally, only invites people who have criminal history, gangs and other people that are trying to destroy our country from within. I have no issues with asylum seekers or people who want a better life for their family, but hopping the boarder is not the way to do this. And if you disagree with this idea, people should be then trying to change the law, rather than barricading ICE agents in with their cars and pointing guns at them. Or doxing them by posting their home address online so people can go attack their family... This is how bad things happen... and how people are pushed to do things they normally wouldn't do because they feel threatened. I'm not saying its correct or right, but cause and effect comes into play.

The theme of the policy itself isn't unique, it's the vagueness that's the primary concern.

Germany has something similar in their Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution -in conjunction with their Constitutional Protection Act (Bundesverfassungsschutzgesetz) -- say that word 5 times fast

Examples of groups of people whose individual members have been or are observed by the BfV and affiliated organizations are:

• People from associations associated with the right-wing extremist spectrum: Alternative für Deutschland, Der Flügel, Junge Alternative, NPD (NPD banning attempt), Junge Nationalisten, Ring Nationaler Frauen, DS-Verlag, Die Rechte, Der III. Weg, National Socialist Underground, German People's Union, Freie Kameradschaften or those close to them
• People from parties and organizations of the left-wing extremist spectrum, including parts of the party The Left; also the Communist Party of Germany (KPD), German Communist Party, Marxist–Leninist Party of Germany, historically Red Army Faction and Free German Youth, Communist Party of Turkey/Marxist–Leninist, Freie Arbeiterinnen- und Arbeiter-Union, Anarcho-Syndicalist Union of Germany and others, as well as autonomous groups
• Islamic fundamentalist and Islamist organizations ICCB (Chaplains' Association), Millî Görüş, IS, al-Qaida (and derivatives), Hamas, Jihadism, Turkish Hezbollah, Muslim Brotherhood and others
• Persons from the Kurdistan Workers' Party, the Revolutionary People's Liberation Front, Turkish right-wing extremism such as the Ülkücü movement and other extremist groups
• Cyber attack groups
• Intelligence and security services of the Russian Federation, the People's Republic of China, the Islamic Republic of Iran, Turkey and other states active in Germany
• Scientology
• Historically refugees from the Eastern Bloc, as Eastern secret services placed agents among the people who emigrated from the GDR by applying for an exit permit infiltrated, among other things, for the purpose of spying on Western secret holders (Günter Guillaume).
• Historically politicians of the former GDR and other socialist states (wiretapping operations, analyses).

...but the difference is they have more specifics pertaining to an enumerated list of activities that can get you on the "observation list", as well as some additional guardrails pertaining to federal surveillance powers.


I don't necessarily disagree with the overall concept...

Democracy can be used against itself (and that's especially a concern during times of rapid demographic changes), and it's not unreasonable to want to hedge against that.

But it seems like this is another "Ready, Fire, Aim" move from the Trump admin where they tried to slap something together quickly.

I'm sure the German implementation of this took more than a week of preparation to craft and fine-tune.

markbrewer said:

what is "holiness"?

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depends on what your referring to , the bible talks about the being holy of living holy , or there are churched that are called independent Holiness churches

ThatRobGuy said:

Based on the wiki description

"Bread and circuses" (or "bread and games"; from Latin: panem et circenses) is a metonymic phrase referring to superficial appeasement. It is attributed to Juvenal (Satires, Satire X), a Roman poet active in the late first and early second century CE, and is used commonly in cultural, particularly political, contexts.

In a political context, the phrase means to generate public approval, not by excellence in public service or public policy, but by diversion, distraction, or by satisfying the most immediate or base requirements of a populace,[1] by offering a palliative: for example food (bread) or entertainment (circuses).


Wouldn't the numerous concerts that have been hosted at the White House fit that description?

It would seem as if UFC events and Concerts (in general) tend to occupy the same kinds of venues (the major arenas for the higher profile entertainers/athletes... the smaller "dingier" places for the lower profile events.

So, for example, Beyonce concerts and UFC events would happen at Madison Square Garden... A local punk band and low-league mma would happen in a dive bar or gymnasium.

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No. The numerous concerts for various guests and events dont count. They obviously arent big gaudy spectacles. Yes this is a matter of taste. And Im right about it.

retired firefighter said:

it read: we believe in speaking in tongues but don"t encourage it . if you find this , shake the dust off your feet !

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So English only?

I prayed for him last night.

bèlla said:

There’s a grave disconnection between reality and dreams and an inability to pivot or adapt when required to do so. The last two generations have struggled to do that. None of the issues arrived overnight and the majority could have been circumvented with honesty and prudence

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May be my struggle is not one Jesus would have dealt with.
But i try and not fall into some sort of "sinisterism". Faith helps me much, and my hope i put into Christ.. Into young people also, and elder ones too. Why would resilience be the monopole of a specific age ?
I just hope this struggle is a christian one, and that it wouldn't rival with this of Jesus for the redemption. Why not ?

timewerx said:

"Low level" analysis makes you good at low level analysis.

But offloading workload on low level analysis lets you do more "high level" work and actually become good at high level (strategic, long term analysis) work as well as greatly improving situational awareness of whatever situation you're dealing with.

The world does not have a shortage of geniuses but rather an abundance of them who can crunch complex equations in their head or on tissue paper.

And yet, we still managed to steer the world towards a path of self-destruction. Lack of situational awareness. What is the advantage?

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This needs to be looked at from a generational perspective.
If it is true an over reliance on AI is causing atrophy in the brains particularly of young people, where will the next batch of critical thinking individuals come from capable of performing the high level work?

Then there are the murky objectives of AI research. Is the goal to produce AGI where AI outperforms humans in every aspect in which case even the high level work is done by AI.
We are seeing examples of 'narrow AI' or proto AGI in chess playing computers which train themselves, to research in protein folding in medical research where AI is demonstrating emergent reasoning.

bèlla said:

You’re comparing apples and oranges to make your point.

~bella

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Kept in chains, described cutting himself with the edges of rocks, if we are talking about what happens in mental health wards, he is in a modern day locked ward, and he needs help because of self harm, perhaps would be deemed to have MPD. The "chains" these days would be powerful tranquilizer drugs.

He is not an exceptional case, he is just right there in the Bible being freed by Jesus, no shame or blame required.

If you think that we are only talking about ADHD, well no I do not think that Legion had ADHD (see my post 59 maybe).

Who are the people today who are blind, yet have eyes, who are deaf, yet have ears? They are the spiritually blind and deaf who are not heeding the call of God to die with Christ to sin and to walk in obedience to our Lord’s commands, by God-persuaded faith in Jesus Christ, in the power of God. They can be people in the world who do not profess faith in Jesus Christ, and they can be those who do profess faith in the Lord Jesus, but who have not been crucified with Christ in death to sin, so they have not been raised with Christ to walk in newness of life in him, no longer to live as slaves to sin.

Many of them are weekly participants in these gatherings in buildings called “churches.” But the church is not a building. It is not a church denomination. It is not a corporation under the state in an unholy union with the world and with the government. And it is not a business to be marketed to the world in order to attract the world to their “church” gatherings. Yet that is what so much of what is called “church” has been turned into. But the biblical church is the body of believers in Christ who have died to sin and who should be walking in obedience to our Lord in serving the Lord with their daily lives.

But since so much of what is called “church” these days has turned their gatherings into businesses to be marketed to the world, and so they have incorporated (merged, joined, united, combined) with the government and with the world, both of which God forbids, many have also compromised the message of the gospel in order to attract the ungodly to their gatherings. So they are not teaching the gospel according to Christ and his New Testament apostles, taught in the correct biblical context, for they are teaching that a mere profession of faith assures you of salvation and eternal life with God.

[Matthew 21:12-13; John 2:13-17; Acts 5:27-32; 1 Corinthians 1:10-13; 1 Corinthians 3:1-9; 2 Corinthians 6:14-18; Philippians 3:18-19; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22; Revelation 13:5-8; Revelation 18:1-5]

But Jesus Christ taught that to come to him we must deny self, take up our cross daily (die daily to sin), and follow (obey) him. For if we hold on to living in sin and for self, we will lose our lives for eternity. But if we deny self, die daily to sin, by the Spirit, and we walk in obedience to our Lord and to his commands, in his power, then we have eternal life with God. For not everyone who calls him “Lord” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one DOING (obeying) the will of God (see Luke 9:23-26; Matthew 7:21-23).

For by God-gifted faith in Jesus Christ, which is not of our own doing, we are crucified with Christ in death to sin and raised with Christ to walk in newness of life in him, no longer to live as slaves to sin but as slaves to righteousness in walks of obedience to God’s commands. We are no longer to permit sin to reign in our mortal bodies to make us obey its desires. For if sin is what we obey, it results in death. But if obedience to God is what we obey, it results in sanctification, and its end is eternal life with God (see Romans 6:1-23).

For God’s grace, which is bringing us salvation, is training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives while we wait for Jesus’ return. For Christ “gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.” “For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.” (See Titus 2:11-14; Ephesians 2:8-10)

And we learn in 1 John 1-3 that if we claim that we have fellowship with God, but yet we walk in darkness (sin), we are liars. If we claim that we know God, but we do not obey his commandments, in practice, we are liars. For it is not the one who claims he is “in Christ” who is “in Christ,” but it is the one who has denied self, died with Christ to sin, and who is now walking in obedience to our Lord and to his commands, in practice, and no longer in sin. We have the hope and the promise of eternal life with God in heaven.

So the made-up gospel that is spreading so rapidly in today’s world, which is teaching a faith which is lip service only – no death to sin and no walks of obedience to God required – is not the biblical gospel (see the above four paragraphs for the biblical gospel message). Now there are those who use the word “repent” but not meaning a change of heart and mind resulting in a change of behavior, but just an acknowledgement of sin only. And there are some who teach holy living and obedience, but not as required for salvation. But the gospel of Christ teaches we must die to sin daily and follow our Lord in obedience.

So, please know and believe the truth, and not the lies, for your salvation from sin and eternal life with God are contingent upon you believing and living the truth of the gospel taught in its correct context in the Scriptures.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

Arise My Love

By Eddie Carswell

..Then suddenly a melody filled the air
Riding wings of wind, it was everywhere
The words all creation had been longing to hear
The sweet sound of victory, so loud and clear

Sin, where are your shackles?
Death, where is your sting?
Hell has been defeated.
The grave could not hold the King.

Arise, My love. Arise, My love.
The grave no longer has a hold on you
No more death's sting; No more suffering
Arise....Arise....Arise

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GoldenBoy89 said:

That was disastrous. I don’t think I’ve seen someone with more contempt for basic congressional oversight. I see why Trump picked her.

Besides her looks, of course.

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Don't over look the $25,000 "campaign contribution" that got Florida AG Pam Bondi to not join the multistate case against Trump "university". (Every villain deserves her origin story.)

Sam91 said:

I don't speak in tongues. I don't especially want to though (as in I have never prayed for it as I have a lot of other things to pray about) I have found on 4 occasions recently when overflowing with the spirit unknown words trying to come out. However a few syllables in my tongue would trip up.

However in my former, younger, naive walk with Christ I had less issues to overcome. I didn't speak in tongues then even though I could walk with a far more Christian temperament.

I don't understand why this is? Am I getting in the way? Why now when not before?

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open up to the Holy Ghost, don't fight it, let him flow through you

Servus said:

Paul was shipwrecked, beaten and stoned nearly to death several times, and imprisoned many times. Of it he said:

Not only so, but we also glory in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us. Romans 5:3-5

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And the sombrero. . .nice touch.

“What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep, and one of them gets lost, will he not leave the ninety-nine on the mountain and go in search of the one that is lost? And if it turns out that he finds it, I assure you and most solemnly say to you, he rejoices over it more than over the ninety-nine that did not get lost. So it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones be lost.

The sheep that are My own hear My voice and listen to Me; I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they will never, ever [by any means] perish; and no one will ever snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater and mightier than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.

~bella

Hvizsgyak said:

Many, many points here to contend with on this one. As almost every Christian knows, when Jesus returns, He will do it in the same way as He ascended to Heaven (so the angels said) (They said, “Men of Galilee, why are you standing there looking at the sky? This Jesus who has been taken up from you into heaven will return in the same way as you have seen him going into heaven.” ACTS 1:11).

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We are also told that many will come pretending to be Jesus. What if these false Jesus' arrive the same way Jesus said He would return? How would we know the difference. Yes, maybe after a while we would start to see the falseness in those impersonators but at first, we may not.
And now that I put "the false Jesus appearing the same way the real Jesus is suppose to arrive" into your head, what happens if the real Jesus arrives but we are too cautious to recognize Him afraid we might get duped.

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The born again will know with certainty. . .

o_mlly said:

You mean like slavery?

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That would be another example. (Not sure you want to stand on that quicksand.)

ChubbyCherub said:

So, which commandments does Jesus say that we must follow?

Is it the original 10 commandments, as set out in the book of Exodus, or is it the commandments Jesus talks about in the New Testament?

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False dichotomy. . .

The NT is quite clear in Ro 13:8-10, Gal 3:5 regarding which commandments we are tofollow.

Vambram said:

Sounds like to me that you are in favor of the police state.

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I'm against political actors trying to steal elections.

BCP1928 said:

Do you suppose he really thinks that's what the Gospel of Christ is?

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Let's see...

Attended proto-prosperity Gospel church as a child.
Has run his own multi-level marketing scheme.

Seems plausible that it is what he believes as described by an idiot.

@stevevw why do you continue to perpetrate this lie of Egyptian vases being made to near perfect symmetry?
Doubling down on this assertion without reliable evidence is also an exercise in rank stupidity.

At this stage no one knows the answer until an in depth study is performed using ISO 1101 approved metrology software for calculations.

*LILAC said:

I think the Centtwinz regret having Joshua on their show. The husbands came onto the show to clear things up! lol

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13 minutes in and so far, no humility or regret, just a doubling down that they're going to invite who ever to their podcast because that's the point of it...Okay then