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How much of your income are you willing to have taken for taxpayer funded healthcare.

What percentage of your income are you willing to give for life, so the nation can have ‘free’ healthcare?
Let's say on average I make $50,000.00 a year. As a Sole- Proprietor I pay for my own private insurance. If I want average coverage that would be about $1450.00 per month. So that is $ 17,400.00. This represents almost 35% of my income. So in order to make it more affordable I would be happy to pay half of that figure. Its a win win. Everyone gets healthcare and I get a substantial saving!

Thanks for sharing !
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Israel is losing Americans (support)

That seems a stupid plan, but you never know with Trump. If he thought it would help him to the Peace Prize he would do it in a New York minute. But that would be for afters. Right now the fighting has to stop and in order to do that you have to deal with the people who are actually doing the fighting. Trying to find a more sympathetic leader who might go on be elected in hypothetical elections some time after the fighting has stopped begins to sound like an excuse to keep fighting. What authority would he have to have to order HAMAS to stop fighting? Why should HAMAS obey him?
If the IDF leaves Gaza today, it will not make any difference for Palestinians in Gaza. Saying "fighting needs to stop" overlooks that if the IDF leaves Gaza, conflict is likely to persist—just involving different groups and interests. Hamas will hold Gaza until they are fully defeated. Peace will only come if Hamas surrenders and gives up their weapons.
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Morality without Absolute Morality

Ten pages in, and all I have read was frivolous bickering. Regarding morality, there are two options. Either it is absolute and was given by an absolute moral law giver (God), or is subjectively relative and varies with time and culture. Bandwagon fallacies does not prove anything. There are only two logical positions to have. One requires the acceptance of an absolute moral law giver that surpasses humanity, the other requires accepting that the standards of morality is a social construct humanity has adopted for the survival of the species. It is illogical and contradictory when someone tries to suggest the existence of moral absolutes while simultaneously denying the existence of God. This is all I will say on the topic.
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Three ICE detainees shot, 2 dead, at ICE facility in Dallas; suspected shooter committed suicide.

I'm talking about immigrants like dreamers who have built productive lives that contribute to the community.
Irrelevant. The laws are written to allow good people in and that they have to prove that before they come. The laws are not written to allow everyone to come in and then sort it out later. Obey the laws.
And I'm talking about asylum seekers who genuinely seek asylum
The majority of them do not meet the requirements.
And I'm talking about a president who says those types of immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country,
Those arent rhe ones hes referring to.

Here's the what he said:

"That’s what they’ve done. They poison mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just to three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world. They’re coming into our country from Africa, from Asia, all over the world."

He also clarified his remarks on Truth Social.

asserting on Truth Social that "illegal immigration is poisoning the blood of our nation. They’re coming from prisons, from mental institutions — from all over the world.”

Now I know its not nice language and Trump has tendencies not to be precise. But he has used this type of language when talking about criminals and rapists who are coming over rhe border. Which of course we have learned is true. There are murderers and rapists and other criminals, traffickers etc coming over the border. If YOU arw not referring to those people in your comments the Trump isnt referring to nice illegals in his, especially when clarifying.

So let's just get off rhe bandwagon here.
There are decent people coming as well as bad people coming. But ALL if them rhat are coming illegally are coming illegally regardless. And they should be sent back if caught no matter how long they've been here. This is not a olley olley oxen free country. No country is.
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The Dominican and the Jazzman

Some other known Catholic jazz musicians...

Mary Lou Williams (she also composed a Mass)

Msgr. John Sanders
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UK lawmaker demands reinstatement of nurse suspended for ‘misgendering’ pedophile

A U.K. member of Parliament has called for the reinstatement of a nurse who was suspended after using male pronouns for a biologically male convicted pedophile who identifies as a woman. The case involves allegations of religious discrimination, racial abuse and institutional bias within the National Health Service.

Claire Coutinho, the Shadow Equalities Minister and Conservative MP for East Surrey, last week met with nurse Jennifer Melle at Westminster to discuss the disciplinary action taken against her, the conservative group Christian Concern reported.

Coutinho said she would write to the Chief Executive of the Epsom and St. Helier University Hospitals NHS Trust, as well as to the Nursing and Midwifery Council (NMC), to advocate for Melle’s reinstatement and to question why she is under professional investigation.


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The rise of menace as a mainstream political tool

Posting this here to keep an eye on it:
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Can we talk about ADHD... and such ?

At about 1 hour, Komisar links ADHD to early childhood stressors. According to her, children are supposed to be with their mothers for their first three years of life. Separating them from their mother by putting them in daycare is a stressor that is harmful for them, causing the amygdala to expand to a huge size and shrink, which leaves the child to suffer a lifetime of emotional dysregulation, because their amygdala cannot regulate their stress response, which leads to ADHD symptoms. “It’s like a PTSD response.” Komisar says.
This I can believe. Young human beings need to know there is an adult there for their needs, I am not sure if it really must be their mother, but one consistant person, not group daycare does make sense.
Komisar also links this trauma to poor parenting, lack of mothers and fathers for children, and the key role of the mother in first few years of a child’s life.
I was not conscious much in my first few years, and then my mother was tranquilised, it definitely was not good. People say these things about the first few years of life and I think, er, but I was not at my first few years.

Thank you for the interesting post.
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law discussions belong in the law/sabbath area, or controvertial.

It depends on what you mean by "keeping the Sabbath?" If you are suggesting the NT Scriptures *require* under Law obedience to the Sabbath Law, you are quite wrong. We do not have liberty to teach Sabbath observance *as Law!*

I'm not hiding a thing, and shame on you for accusing me of something that is untrue. I've preached this thing for many years and in many places. I do try, and sometimes fail, to be tactful, but my position has been long established.

If you say there is no Law under the New Covenant that is untrue. The New Covenant is literally filled with laws! Just read the NT Scriptures, and you cannot deny this. We are required under the New Covenant to do lots of things, including many of the things required under the Old Covenant, such as love God alone and respect others, etc.

Yes, Sabbath Law is ritual or repetitive, and if not done in the Spirit it was rote. However, even ritual laws, when done by the Spirit, were moral laws. They were a matter of following God, and as such, expressions of faith for His mercy in sustaining them in covenant relationship despite their sins and weaknesses.

I really don't know why you come across so loveless and accusing? Please explain?
I must apologize to you. This reply was meant for someone else. My deepest apologies.
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Lex Movendi, Lex Intelligendi

At Mass at one church, everybody stands after the Sanctus, but for just the first sentence of the ever-used second Eucharistic prayer. We are supposed to kneel once the priest calls down the Holy Spirit upon the gifts. What this means, in practice, is that the clomp-clomp of kneelers and the shifting of bodies breaks up the prayer and interrupts the priest.

Kamala Harris interviewed by Brett Baier

Well, no. You can always write in a candidate who isn't on the ballot...but that rarely amounts to anything even with a serious, concerted and organized effort behind it. The only example I know of where it worked for a major election was with Senator Strom Thurmond in 1954.

-- A2SG, beyond that, it's still rarely successful, and even then, pretty much limited to local elections....


Lisa Murkowski had a successful write in. She was, of course, already well known.
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Where Heaven Still Touches Earth

While in Buffalo, New York for a work trip, a friend took me to see the basilica, Our Lady of Victory. It’s breathtaking in its splendor, and a little shocking to the senses to step from an American city and into this piece of medieval Europe.

Another liberal judge injects her politics into law...

We all agree that these are “extraordinary times”, what we disagree on is what makes them so.
The President sure seems like he really needs to invade (some of) the several states to “save” them, after some fashion, for no other reason than he wants there to be peace across the land…once he’s finished. If he got some sort of “Prize” for that, I’m sure that he’d accept it with dignity and grace.
Which brings us to "mostly peaceful protests" at ICE facilities in Portland.
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Trump plan would limit Social Security disability benefits for older Americans

The OP‘s messege was that an older person’s age wouldn’t be a factor in-favor for obtaining benefits from the disability provisions of the Social Security Act (as amended).
60 years-old and got a bad back!?
“Tough it out!” says our government, which had promised that if we were 60, couldn’t work because of a medical/mental condition, the Government would “help” us if we paid into it.

”Bait and switch” is still bait and switch if it takes eighty-years to get to the switch part.
"Bait and switch" doesn't fit. Bait and switch happens when the advertised good isn't in the store. This is altering a deal that has been altered before. Even SSI wasn't part of the original deal. Waiting to 67 for full benefits certainly wasn't.
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how old is too old?

28 year old with 40 year old would make me more cautious than a 38 year old with a 50 year old. At 28 the brain is fully developed, but there is a discrepancy in wisdom and life experience that can only be gained by time and age.
Another thing is that life stages and goals can differ a lot more between 40/28 than between 50/38.
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BUSTED - 12 False theories refuted:

I find this idea to be beyond belief and without any credibility.
John 3:36 - whoever believes in the Son has eternal life.
John 5:24 - whoever hears my word ..... has eternal life.
John 6:47 - the one who believes has eternal life.
John 6:54 - whoever eats my flesh has eternal life.
John 17:3 - this is eternal life; that they know you.
Romans 6:23 - the gift of God is eternal life.
1 Timothy 6:12 - take hold of the eternal life which you received .......

Jesus came to give life in all its fulness. He did not say, "just muddle along in this life, for now and you will have fulness of life when you die."
(And no, that does not mean I believe the Prosperity Gospel.)
The time when all those worthy will obtain immortality, is after the Millennium. Revelation 20:15-21
We are only worthy through Jesus - who makes us righteous, 2 Corinthians 5:21.
However; your belief of now for Eternal life, is not a bad thing, just keep in mind it cannot be a reality yet.
So Christians don't have any assurance or security?
We shouldn't sing the hymn, "Blessed assurance, Jesus is mine", but "let's hope, one day, we will have eternal life"?
What did John write? "I am writing to you who believe in the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life", 1 John 5:13.
The problem with it, is the confusion and mistaken ideas of our role in the coming Kingdom.
The Kingdom is already here - though not fully.
It started when King Jesus came to earth. It is found wherever Christians honour and accept Jesus as king, are telling others about him and are doing the work that he has called us to. It will be seen in all its fulness when King Jesus returns in glory.
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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

As usual you continue to ignore scripture and sidestep.
I think we have delineated that your positions have zero accounting for the workings of the adversary, the tempter, in us all. A very basic void in your positions.
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The Time Has Come to Upgrade 2A

‘’Criteria for Denial, Mental health issues (only if declared by a court).’’
Think that's an isolated incident to deter our 2A freedom?
Look at who is performing the work for the anti-2A crowd, ,
''As an academic who relies upon the FBI for accurate reports on crime, I am disappointed by the many errors found in their crime data, particularly on their active shooting data,” said Gary Mauser, an emeritus professor at Simon Fraser University in Canada who has extensively studied gun control and defensive gun uses.''

''The news media, federal lawmakers, and courts frequently rely on the FBI’s active shooting reports. News media articles rely on the FBI data to argue that guns are rarely used to stop these attacks. Headlines illustrate this framing: “Rare in the U.S. for an active shooter to be stopped by a bystander” (Associated Press); “Rampage in Indiana a rare instance of armed civilian ending mass shooting” (Washington Post); and “After Indiana shooting, one hero but no lasting solution to gun violence” (New York Times).''

The 'reliability' of gov't stats identified as: Defensive Gun Use or, Active Shooter Incidents

SOURCE
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