Zions New Children
- By Guojing
- Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum
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Don't negate the promise to Abraham of the "seed" which will never die which means ethnic Jews (biological descendants of Abraham). We don't replace Israel, as Paul says, we gentiles are grafted in. The original branches are still there and will always be.
Abraham has physical descendants as well as spiritual descendants, so you are correct.
Abraham had 2 seed, spiritual and physical, while Jacob only has one seed, that is physical
God promised numerous descendants to Abraham in a number of places in Genesis
Genesis 12: 2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
Genesis 15 (our favourite passage): 5 And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.
6 And he believed in the Lord; and he counted it to him for righteousness.
Genesis 17:4 As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.
5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.
6 And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee.
Genesis 22: 17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;
Notice how God specified to Abraham that his seed will be of 2 groups:
-Stars of the heaven
-Sand upon the sea shore.
While for Jacob, it was found in Genesis 28
12 And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.
13 And, behold, the Lord stood above it, and said, I am the Lord God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon thou liest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed;
14 And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.
Here is the critical alteration in the promise of numerous descendants to Jacob can be found. While Abraham was promised seed that will be the stars of heaven, Jacob had no promise of that.
Instead, God promised Jacob specifically that his seed shall be as the dust of the earth
It is Jacob's seed that became Israel, which is also Abraham's physical seed.
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