BelieveItOarKnot said:

The "location" of Satan is not really divulged to us. We can pretty much presume it to be in the unseen arena, of adverse spirits, whatever and wherever that is. And since these bad actors act up in people, we can presume we're part of their habitation, per Mark 4:15 and other scriptures such as Luke 11:24 showing the unclean spirit considers man "his house." And of course the myriad of scriptures that show us in the Gospels Jesus engaging Satan and devils in people. One of the most obvious showings in the Gospels.

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Job 1:7 The Lord said to Satan, “Where have you come from?” Satan answered the Lord, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”

Jesus was not encountering demons in everyone, so how can you say everyone has a demon in them?

BelieveItOarKnot said:

I believe that 1 John 4:7 is true for every person, myself included and that Jesus is the Savior of the world, per the scriptures. I believe He Gets The Job Done too. Most don't. Most think Jesus fails.

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John 4:7 Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. 8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. 9 This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him. 10 This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. 11 Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. 12 No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.

1 John 4:7 Talks about “Godly type Love” which comes with the indwelling Holy Spirit, but as 1 John 4:7-11 points out it is contingent on “if we Love one another”, which is not true of everyone.

BelieveItOarKnot said:

Were there a single named example of such a thing I might buy into it, but there's not one single named person given as an example out of potentially multiple BILLIONS of examples. Not even one named person even threatened with such a fate.

Plus the situation is compounded with difficulty because, scripturally, people are not just people. It's people and the tempter working against all of us, from within.

So I believe Jesus could look any of us in the eye, sentence us to our face to hell and it would apply to the TEMPTER. And I would rejoice then to hear those Words knowing unto whom they are directed. Not run from them like most do.

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There are tons of warnings in scripture directed at individual people and not some demon living in them. Jesus drove out the demons in those who had a demon around Him and it was not everyone.

BelieveItOarKnot said:

Aka Jesus as a failure and people as a failure as well. Not my idea of A Real Savior of the world. Your view makes God held hostage by man's decisions and then, by their failures to save themselves, God is forced into a corner and must burn them alive forever.

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People do not “save themselves”! God does not “force” Love/charity/forgiveness/salvation on anyone. This is not a shotgun wedding with God holding the shotgun (which would not be Loving nor would the love received be Godly type Love). Jesus and God did their part perfectly, you just have to accept the charity as charity to complete the transaction.

BelieveItOarKnot said:

I just don't believe that's the case for multiple reasons. And I certainly don't believe God burns His Own children alive forever or eternally kills them. To me, that's out there. Demonic.

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What is really hard to believe is God’s Love to be so great as to allow His only innocent son to be willingly tortured, humiliated and murdered to save some really guilty unappreciative children deserving of nothing.

BelieveItOarKnot said:

I'll give you an example of one problem with so called "freewill." It DEMANDS that God is ruled OUT of mankinds will and it DEMANDS that Satan's will is ruled out as well so the MAN's bad/sinful decisions only rest on the man. And both of those attempts are simply a leap that doesn't exist in scripture. I'd dare call the claim essentially Godless.

I believe scriptures are quite clear that there are actually 3 wills going on with everyone and that neither the Will of God nor the will of Satan can be ruled out of the picture for anyone.

That makes freewill a very muddled claim, at best. It's mostly used to justify believers and condemn blinded captives of the devils, such as with Adam and Eve. I don't need to move that way, trusting in God in Christ for every person, as we should.and we can remain in condemnation of every devil in man simultaneously. It's an actual working Gospel that can be taken into real life daily.

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We are talking only about a very limited amount of free will, which God is Loving enough and powerful enough to provide to humans, without negatively affecting others with their free will choice. God and Christ have free will and thus can Love with a free will choice, for us to Love like Christ and God we to must have free will.

The one autonomous free will choice mature adults need to be able to make to complete their earthly objective is to humbly accept or reject God’s help (charity/mercy/grace/Love/forgiveness) as pure charity. In other words: sinful humans can choose to hang in there, be macho, pay the piper and take the punishment they fully deserve or they can wimp out, give up and surrender to their hated enemy, while they still hate their enemy (God) they are just willing to humbly accept their enemy’s undeserved pure charity. They still might feel they deserve from their enemy to be severely tortured to death, for their previous war crimes, yet they are willing to take undeserved charity. They are not being righteous, holy, glorious, honorable, worthy and noble in what they are doing, since it is for selfish reasons, they are willing to accept their enemy’s charity.

God is not forcing his charity on the sinner like some kind of shotgun wedding with God holding the shotgun, since that would not be Loving on God’s part nor would the sinner obtain Godly type Love in that manner. By accepting this Love in the form of forgiveness Jesus has taught us “…he who is forgiven much Loves much…” so humbly accepting pure undeserved forgiveness of an unbelievable huge debt automatically results in the former sinner receiving an unbelievable huge Love (Godly type Love) and thus fulfill the first part of sinners earthly objective.

Verses supporting free will

Gen. 1-3 Did Adam and Eve have free will?

Exodus 35:29 “All the Israelite men and women who were willing brought to the Lord freewill offerings for all the work the Lord through Moses had commanded them to do.” Are these truly free will offerings?

Jonah 3: 10 “When God saw what they did and how they turned from their evil ways, he relented and did not bring on them the destruction he had threatened.” Did the people of Nineveh change what God said he would do?

How is this not saying that God’s actions are contingent on the choices of the people?

"You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life." (John 5:39-40). Note that Jesus does not say, "you cannot come", which the Greek does not say here, but, "you refuse to come", in order that you may have eternal life. It was their own rejection of Jesus and the Gospel, that would damn their souls, and not because they were "unable" to make the "choice" themselves.

Christ is God here on earth. The “whomsoever” does not mean only the elect, but lots of people, who then made the choice to accept or reject Christ. "You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life." (John 5:39-40)

To say: “Christ only reveals Himself to those who God have chosen to accept Him”, means God is guilty of not helping others to accept Christ.

John 15: 22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin.

If they have no free will, they have an excellent excuse for sinning?

There are all the “whosoever” verses making it contingent.

BelieveItOarKnot said:

Well, at least you manage to get the other party on the table, and that alone makes yours a fuzzy picture of blame to man, knowing full well that sins are not counted against people, 2 Cor. 5:19. IF we really believe that there is only one party left on the table to count sins against and that is the devil and his own.

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2 Cor. 5:19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation. 20 We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God.

Yes God is in the process of reconciling the world to himself, but we are also to be doing that as His ambassadors, making His appeal through us, but it is an “appeal”, meaning something which can be accepted or rejected.

BelieveItOarKnot said:

I've never said God excuses any evil. He doesn't. Nor does God forgive sin. God does count sins against the devils.

Nor did the devil make anyone do it. The devil does it. Satan does what Satan does. Sins in people.

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There are plenty of places talking about people sinning and it does not say the devil sinned through them, so the people are not sinning.

BelieveItOarKnot said:

No matter how much we might try to hang our heads and repent, that never made anyone sinless.

We are undoubtedly commanded to love our neighbors as ourselves and we don't have to concede or accept anything devils do in people, starting with the LOG in our own eye on this matter.

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If you are forgiven of the sins you have done, you are a previous sinner.

Yes we are to work on ourselves first and after being forgiven confessing and repenting we can help others.

BPPLEE said:

Yeah, he knew ahead of time that some nut would kill two people.

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You don’t need to be Nostradamus to predict something like this. I’m surprised it hasn’t happened sooner.

Hammster said:

Sometimes people do need that. Then they grow up and become adults.

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And when they are adults not medically trained they rely on medical advice from their health department.

A Devil's Advocate said:

The goal of Christianity is to know God. This is something you could spend ten lifetimes in pursuit of and still have barely scratched the surface of everything there is to know about God.

It amazes me the amount of wasted time and energy people put towards this goal of sinning less and ultimately, not sinning at all. Does anyone read the bible for what it actually says, or does everyone read it for what they've been told it says?

If I was to ask you; do you identify as your sinful nature, or do you identify as the good you want to do but struggle with a sinful nature, which would best describe you? Most likely it will be the later of the two. You are the good you want to do but struggle with a sinful nature. Which would align you with what Paul talked about in Rom 7:14-20.
Now say by the power of grey skull, I snap my fingers and suddenly you no longer have a sinful nature. Will you continue to do the evil you do not want to do, or will you only do the good you so desire to do? Obviously, the good you desire to do is all that you are going to do.
Okay then, in your pursuit to stop sinning, what is it you are trying so hard to improve on? The good you already desire to do, or the sinful nature?

The good you desire to do clearly needs no improvement since it already desires to do good. The sinful nature, on the other hand, cannot be improved on. Scripture is vividly clear on this. If it could be improved on, then Paul would not have wrote what he wrote in Rom 7, and the Gospel wouldn't have been necessary.

Before you try and tell me Paul is speaking of before he was saved... this is the real world, not some fantasy. At what point, before you were saved, did you ever struggle between doing the good that God desires you to do and doing evil? The truth is you didn't. You simply did whatever felt good to you in the moment.

Before salvation we are spiritually dead, separated from God. Without spiritual life, there is no desire to do the will of God. Without spiritual life, the desires of the flesh are what rules us. We have no desire, what so ever, to do the will of God. After receiving new life (spiritual life), that is when we are suddenly presented with a dilemma. To now do the will of God.
This new dilemma is the very struggle Paul talks about. And the reason Paul talks about it is to make it clear to his readers that the very idea that we can stop sinning is ridiculous. He states very clearly that sin resides in the flesh. Unless you live in the fantasy world I mentioned earlier, until the day you die, you will remain in the flesh. The flesh is corrupt as a result of sin. And until our corrupted flesh is destroyed, and we are given new non corrupted bodies, this struggle will remain.

The time and energy put towards the goal of sinning less and ultimately not sinning at all, is misplaced, misleading, and ultimately leads us back into the bondage of sin. That time and energy should be put towards getting to know more of God. The logic is simple, if you are doing what you are supposed to be doing, you wont be doing what you aren't to be doing. The more of God you know, the more of God is revealed through you, and naturally, the less you will sin. No effort, no fuss, no worries.

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The way to know God is the same as the way to refrain from sin (1 John 3:4-6). The Hebrew word “yada” refers to intimate relationships/knowledge gained by experience such as with Genesis 4:1 where Adam knew (yada) Eve, she conceived, and gave birth to Cain. God’s way is the way to know (yada) God by embodying His likeness through experiencing being a doer of His character traits, which is the narrow way to eternal life (John 17:3). For example, in Genesis 18:19, God knew Abraham that he would teach his children and those of his household to walk in His way by being doers of righteousness and justice that the Lord might bring to Him all that he has promised. In Exodus 33:13, Moses wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him to walk in His way that he and Israel might know (yada) Him, and in Matthew 7:23, Jesus said that he would tell those who are workers of lawlessness to depart from him because he never knew them, so the goal of the law is to graciously teach us how to know God and Jesus by walking in His way, which is the content of His gift of eternal life. Sin is the opposite of walking in God’s way and sin is the transgression of God’s law because it was graciously given in order to teach us how to walk in God’s way (1 Kings 2:1-3).

DaisyDay said:

I'm pretty sure he is referring to Social Security as being the pyramid scheme (although I don't think bag holding is involved, even metaphorically).

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Lol! Imagine what would happen in America if there were zero social supports for the poor?

@The Liturgist, Regarding the Lutheran view of self denial, mortification of the flesh, and the idea of memento morti (think of the imposition of Ashes on Ash Wednesday) is certainly not unheard of in Lutheranism. Pastor shared this video about a group of Lutheran Church Missouri Synod clergy that are advocating these practices for lay men. It is not a short interview, but is worth a look for those trying to understand these practices. Login to view embedded media

essentialsaltes said:

But that's Greg Bovino's superpower!

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Deposition of Border Patrol Cmdr. Gregory Bovino went off the rails at hello, transcript shows​

The full transcript of Bovino’s deposition was made part of the court record as attorneys in an ongoing lawsuit accused immigration agents with Border Patrol and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement of routinely violating a restraining order issued by U.S. District Judge Sara Ellis limiting the use of force against protesters and media.

Ellis blasted Bovino for his antics and answers during the three-day deposition, issuing a scathing 233-page ruling earlier this month that described the tough-talking field general as “evasive” and accused him of “either providing ‘cute’ responses” or “outright lying.”

Strong in Him said:

Again, you have chosen to select one one phrase of my reply to you. What about the rest of it?

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What do you mean 'What about it the rest of it' ?

DaisyDay said:

Not even as they were not married.

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Then she is not a relative at all -

Postvieww said:

I don’t. I oppose undermining the Commander in Chief.

Ridiculous. Not our job nor the members of congress. Sad these six have duped so many in to believing their behavior had a pure motive. It was to undermine Trump nothing more or less.

Typical liberal diversion. You are just proving my point, this is all about hating Trump.

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Kindly explain how making a factual statement that troops should not follow unlawful orders is undermining the Commander in Chief?

The zero evidence for modern lathe work, stone softening, moulding stones etc is also reflected in the vocabulary used in the Old Kingdom.
While the Old Kingdom had words to describe tools attested to by archaeological discoveries such as abrasives, saws, copper chisels, hammerstones, and verbs for cutting, carving, grinding and polishing, there is nothing to describe lathe work, softening and moulding.

Below is a table of Old Kingdom craft-related vocabulary with their Gardiner sign codes and the corresponding hieroglyphic spellings.
I’ve also included an image group showing examples of the key signs used in these words (drill, chisel, adze, grinding, craft tools).
This keeps things accurate and avoids speculative or reconstructed glyph forms.

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Hieroglyphic Signs Used in Old Kingdom Craft Vocabulary​

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Vocabulary Table With Hieroglyphs (Using Standard Gardiner Codes)​

Term (Transliteration)	Meaning	Hieroglyphic Writing (with Gardiner Codes)	Notes
ḥs	grind / rub / polish	ḥ (V28) + s (S29)	Used for smoothing stone surfaces.
šd	cut / carve	š (S29 variant) + d (D46)	Appears in stone- and wood-working contexts.
qd	carve / shape	q (Q3) + d (D46)	Common in statuary and vessel carving.
ḫtm	drill / bore	ḫ (AA1) + t (X1) + m (G17)	Matches bow-drilling and tube-drilling activities.
mrḳ	polish / burnish	m (G17) + r (D21) + q (Q3)	Final finishing stage for hard stone vessels.
dbn	hammerstone / pounder	d (D46) + b (D58) + n (N35)	Depicted in quarrying scenes.
mnḏ	copper chisel	m (G17) + n (N35) + ḏ (Aa1/ḏ sign)	Copper chisels attested archaeologically.
mr	adze	m (G17) + r (D21)	The adze is shown as sign T1, the tool itself.
sḏm	scrape / file / hear	s (S29) + ḏ (Aa1) + m (G17)	Used in smoothing and finishing contexts.
sṯ	saw	s (S29) + ṯ (X4)	Sawing depicted with copper saw + abrasive sand.
ḥmt	craftsman / artisan	ḥ (V28) + m (G17) + t (X1)	Appears in scenes of copper- and stone-working.
ḥmw	craftsmen	ḥ (V28) + m (G17) + w (M17×2)	Collective term for workers in workshops.
khn	hollow out	k (V31) + ḥ (V28) + n (N35)	Used in hollowing stone bowls and vases.
šsp	chip / flake	š (S29) + s (S29) + p (Q3)	Associated with chipping stone or wood.
bḥn	emery / abrasive stone	b (D58) + ḥ (V28) + n (N35)	Identified mineral abrasive for polishing.
šʿt	grindstone	š (S29) + ʿ (G1) + t (X1)	Refers to grinding or sharpening tools.

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Notes on Hieroglyphic Accuracy​

• Old Kingdom spellings vary; the versions shown are standard Middle Egyptian forms, which are the conventional way Egyptologists represent the words.
• Craft vocabulary is well-attested in tomb scenes (e.g., Ti, Ptahhotep, Mereruka) and tool lists.
• All signs listed follow Gardiner's Sign List, the standard system for citing Egyptian hieroglyphs.
  

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Isn't it a 'remarkable coincidence' the absence of hi tech evidence also shows up as an absence of terms describing them.

PloverWing said:

If we've been sufficiently kind to our atheist neighbors, maybe they will also be kind to us religious folks when they're in the majority.

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Fortunately, we have our own reasons for retaining the secular government our Founders set forth.

Vambram said:

If judges are allowed to pick and choose federal DA's, then judges are overstepping their roles as judges. The DA must be selected by the Presidents and then approved by the Senate.

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Yes, which is why you can't just interim appoint one person after the other and bypass the senate altogether. They may have more interim AGs than senate confirmed. So the actual law renders Keith Gross and Mike Davis points moot. What they are just saying is the same thing as you, you just don't like the law. Why is it so hard for this admin to just follow laws?

Next up: Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Jacuzzi​

Donald Trump Reveals New DC National Mall Project to Fix ‘Biden Filth’​

In a post to Truth Social accompanied by a video, the president posted, "This is the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool before Secretary of the Interior Doug Burgum and I fix it. Study it hard because you won’t be seeing this Biden filth and incompetence much longer!"

I guess my question would be, what is the underlying challenge or problem the training would be aimed at?

Conflict resolution training sounds more like it's aimed at helping the team work well together. I have done training on the sort of thing you're talking about, but it was presented more as "conflict and aggression management" as an aspect of worker safety.

(As in, there's a difference between training aimed at resolving conflict between team members, and training aimed at helping workers respond to and manage difficult clients. I'd think it's a matter of making sure you get the right kind of training for your situation).

Honestly, the best thing the training I did achieved, was helping build confidence among our volunteers. They had been very intimidated by some of our more difficult folk, but being given some simple tools and some approaches to think about, helped them to not be so anxious; which in turn helped them to not escalate situations that didn't need to get out of hand.

DaisyDay said:

I don't recall making that comment. Are you mistaking the OP for me or vice versa?

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Ah yes, was confusing you for the OP... nevermind

I am just waiting for the first liberal to say, "Well, if the National Guard wasn't there in the first place, they wouldn't have been shot." Followed by Trump bashing.

boughtwithaprice said:

Isaiah 1 shows us that the Sabbath is not the primary commandment. God gave it to Israel for their good, but God desires more than a mere show of worship.

Do you love your enemies? Do you sacrifice your personal will and desires for the greater glory of God? What challenged you most about the scriptures? If you can’t answer or say the sabbath, you miss the point.

13 Offer sacrifice no more in vain: incense is an abomination to me. The new moons, and the sabbaths, and other festivals I will not abide, your assemblies are wicked. 14 My soul hateth your new moons, and your solemnities: they are become troublesome to me, I am weary of bearing them. 15 And when you stretch forth your hands, I will turn away my eyes from you: and when you multiply prayer, I will not hear: for your hands are full of blood.


Are the hands not full of blood when the sabbath is used for arrogance and condemnation rather than the gift of rest that comes from God?

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Lets look at the context of this passage

God is addressing rebellion with His people

Isa 1:4 Alas, sinful nation,
A people [c]laden with iniquity,
A [d]brood of evildoers,
Children who are corrupters!
They have forsaken the Lord,
They have provoked to anger
The Holy One of Israel,
They have turned away backward.

Isa 1:13 Bring no more futile[f] sacrifices;
Incense is an abomination to Me.
The New Moons, the Sabbaths, and the calling of assemblies—
I cannot endure iniquity and the sacred meeting.
Your New Moons and your appointed feasts
My soul hates;
They are a trouble to Me,
I am weary of bearing them.
15 When you [g]spread out your hands,
I will hide My eyes from you;
Even though you make many prayers,
I will not hear.
Your hands are full of [h]blood.

Here's another example. Does God not want us to pray? When we turn our ears from hearing His laws (laying it aside as it is not for me Mark7:7-13 Mat15:3-14) even our prayers are an abomination to Him. So is prayer the issue or is the issue our disobedience. The same principle God is saying in Isaiah 1.

Pro28:9 One who turns away his ear from hearing the law, Even his prayer is an abomination.

God is referring to the annual feast day offerings, some are annual sabbaths it wasn't the Sabbath that was the issue, what is God calling them out for? Their sins that they were not turning from, the sacrifices to God will mean nothing if we do not have a sorry heart and turn from sin Pro28:13, they are futile.

He is rejecting their sinful behavior combined with forced religious rituals.

They were committing sin and showing up to their feasts and Sabbath without a changed heart or turning from sin. This is what God was condemning.

All you have to do is read a little further in Isaiah to know the Sabbath was not the issue.


Isa 56:1 Thus says the Lord:

“Keep justice, and do righteousness,
For My salvation is about to come,
And My righteousness to be revealed.
2 Blessed is the man who does this,
And the son of man who lays hold on it;
Who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,

6 “Also the sons of the foreigner
Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him,
And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants—
Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And holds fast My covenant—
7 Even them I will bring to My holy mountain,
And make them joyful in My house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices
Will be accepted on My altar;
For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.”

And in Isa 58 and Isa 66.

boughtwithaprice said:

The final Sabbath belongs to Mary.

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Not in our Bibles

boughtwithaprice said:

She alone prayed and wept while her Son was in the tomb.

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Not something we can find in our Bibles

boughtwithaprice said:

The Resurrection does not begin with the Sabbath.. Scripture states after the Sabbath was past, toward the dawn of the first day of the week…..,

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The Sabbath was kept according to the commandment after Jesus was crucified and died by His disciples Luke23:56 The reference you make is a historical statement, it has nothing to do with changing a commandment of God. We would need a Test from God for that.

boughtwithaprice said:

We have historical record the Christians worshipped thereafter on the first day of the week and then everyday.

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Not in our Bibles - I guess that's why you keep only quoting "you". If you mean corporate worship every first day, not in our Bibles. There are a couple Text where they gathered on the first day, but it says nothing about it being for corporate worship, or changing one of God's commandment. Jesus ratified His covenant at His death. To make a change in His covenant- He would have to die all over again, but His sacrifice was once and for all. The apostles were commissioned to spread the gospel, not change God's times and laws they knew would happen from Daniel. They never rebelled against God. The faithfully kept every Sabbath preaching the word of God to both Jews and Gentiles just as Jesus predicted- His house would be a house of prayers for all nations. Isa56:6-7 Acts 13:42 Acts 13:44 Acts 18:4 etc.

boughtwithaprice said:

The old covenant is past the New Covenant is here and the glory of Our Lord Jesus Christ shines forth in the world

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Amen! The New Covenant is God's laws, the tablets of stone went to tablets of the heart Heb8:10 2Cor3:3 God not altering the words of His covenant Psa89:34, not a jot or tittle Mat5:18-30

boughtwithaprice said:

It is completely false to say Constantine started Sunday worship to take the place of Sun worship
Christians were worshipping on Sunday in the first and second centuries

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This is not something your church even believes - they openly admit to changing God's Sabbath commandment based on their authority over the word of God.

Question: Which is the Sabbath day?
Answer: Saturday is the Sabbath day.

Question: Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
Answer: We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.
—Rev. Peter Geiermann C.SS.R., The Convert’s Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, p. 50

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... you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify.
—The Faith of Our Fathers, by James Cardinal Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore, 88th edition, page 89. Originally published in 1876, republished and Copyright 1980 by TAN Books and Publishers, Inc., pages 72-73.

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Deny the authority of the Church and you have no adequate or reasonable explanation or justification for the substitution of Sunday for Saturday in the Third - Protestant Fourth - Commandment of God... The Church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.'
—Catholic Record, September 1, 1923.

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Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change was her act. And the act is a mark of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters.
—C. F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons, in answer to a letter regarding the change of the Sabbath, November 11,

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boughtwithaprice said:

The sabbath only relates to the creation of the earth. It does not reveal a divine truth or essence, else Isaiah would not proclaimed that by those sabbaths God will not abide

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Not in our Bibles

boughtwithaprice said:

Scripture also says that heaven and earth will pass away, but my word will not pass away.

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Amen! Including His Word - His Testimony written and spoken by God Himself.

boughtwithaprice said:

The sabbath refers to earth.

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Not according to God

Isa66:23 “For as the new heavens and the new earth
Which I will make shall remain before Me,” says the Lord,
“So shall your descendants and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass
That from one New Moon to another,
And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.

boughtwithaprice said:

If earth passes away, what then of the Sabbath?

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It continues for worship thus saith the Lord.

boughtwithaprice said:

Too much emphasis on creation and not the Creator.

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Not all at, the Creator is who asked us to keep the Sabbath day holy. Keeping another day is its place is honoring the Catholic church who admits they changed God's Sabbath. Keeping the Sabbath day holy, we honor God, thus saith the Lord

Isa 58:13 “If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath,
From doing your pleasure on My holy day,
And call the Sabbath a delight,
The holy day of the Lord honorable,
And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways,
Nor finding your own pleasure,
Nor speaking your own words,

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Do we worship the creation rather than the Creator?

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You keep quoting "you" but what I care about is what God has to say on this subject and He spoke directly about it. God said the exact opposite

God speaking....

Eze20: 12 Moreover I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between them and Me, that they might know that I am the Lord who sanctifies them.

Eze 20:16 because they despised My judgments and did not walk in My statutes, but profaned My Sabbaths; for their heart went after their idols.

Eze20:20 hallow My Sabbaths, and they will be a sign between Me and you, that you may know that I am the Lord your God.

No wonder why in the last days we are called back to worship the God of Creation because so many has departed from Him whoever we obey is who we serve (worship)- God placed His seal/sign in the Sabbath commandment. And when we hallow His Sabbaths they will be a sign between Me and you, that you may know that I am the Lord your God.

Sadly, this is even a debate. But It was predicted Dan7:24 2 Tim 4:3-4

Rev 14:7 saying with a loud voice, “Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.”

Exo 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

The end times are about the battle over worship. Do we stay faithful to God, or follow those who changed His times and laws. I pray we make the right decisions because the only antidote for this Rev14:11 is this Rev14:12 (God's version, not mans.)

A CALLER ON MY radio show today asked whether angels are responsible for the “vibrations” heard throughout the universe. He had come across a speaker who suggested something along those lines and wanted to know if it was odd speculation or if the Church actually teaches anything that resembles it. His description mixed a few ideas together, but it touched on something more significant than he realized.

Catholic teaching has always held that angels are real spiritual beings who serve God in ways both revealed and hidden. Scripture hints at some of their responsibilities, the Fathers expand on that picture, and the great theologians explain how their activity fits within God’s providence. The idea that they exercise influence within the created order is not a modern fantasy. It is part of the Catholic understanding of how divine governance reaches into the visible world.

Before turning to St. Thomas Aquinas, it helps to recall that the Church has never claimed to know the full scope of what angels do (Catechism 328–336). What has been revealed shows that they carry out genuine tasks, and the tradition teaches that their responsibilities extend far beyond what Scripture records. That is the context for understanding how a casual remark about “vibrations” can gesture, however clumsily, toward an older and richer teaching.

St. Thomas Aquinas states plainly that angels serve in God’s external missions:

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DaisyDay said:

2 National Guard members dead after shooting near White House: West Virginia governor

Two National Guardsmen are in critical condition after being shot near the White House.

abcnews.go.com

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Two National Guard members are dead after being shot in downtown Washington near the White House, according to West Virginia Gov. Patrick Morrisey.​

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"It is with great sorrow that we can confirm both members of the West Virginia National Guard who were shot earlier today in Washington, DC have passed away from their injuries. These brave West Virginians lost their lives in the service of their country. We are in ongoing contact with federal officials as the investigation continues," Morrisey said.​

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"Our entire state grieves with their families, their loved ones, and the Guard community. West Virginia will never forget their service or their sacrifice, and we will demand full accountability for this horrific act," Morrisey said.​

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Not much is known yet. Thoughts and prayers, for whatever that is worth.

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Seconded. May they be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows they are dead.

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Jeesuspelastaa said:

God has the sole right to the name

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In Acts 4:8-12 our Apostle Peter says > "the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth", and later says >

"'Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.'" (Acts 4:12)

Jeesuspelastaa said:

having been baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.

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And we have >

"And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him." (Colossians 3:17)

"Let all that you do be done with love." (1 Corinthians 16:14)

Jeesuspelastaa said:

Yet the perfect unity for which Jesus prayed will not be fulfilled by trying to uproot denominations and churches from the world. They will always exist among us in this world. True unity becomes visible only when we root them out from within ourselves.

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Our Apostle Paul says >

"For there must also be factions among you, that those who are approved may be recognized among you." (1 Corinthians 11:19)

Jeesuspelastaa said:

The early congregation is our example.

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One item > for some while, it seems to me, the early church members were not decades matured in the faith. So, I would not try to "copy" what was being done while the Christians all were still new in Jesus and the Holy Spirit. However, we do have what I would consider to be letters given in scripture by ones after they had become much more mature.

So, I would consider > as we each grow in Jesus and with one another, there can be discovering to do . . . how God ***creates*** better than we now might try and push to copy, based on our present level of maturity.

Delvianna said:

there are teachings by other denominations that will not get people saved as they themselves aren't either.

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Yes, but I get what I think @Jeesuspelastaa is saying . . . how there can be genuine Christians in groups that are not correct in official stuff. It can even happen, that some unsaved pastor then trusts in Jesus and even turns that one's whole church to what is better, and they might stay in the group while they offer what is better.

Delvianna said:

claiming all denominations are apart of his flock.

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Well, if a whole denomination were a part of Christ's flock, wouldn't this mean every member is saved? I think there is no denomination with every member saved. So, in case one member isn't, the denomination isn't.

CLEEB said:

Many churches teach another Jesus and another gospel.

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Our Apostle Paul is plain about this, about if this is possible to have a false Jesus Christ >

"For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted---you may well put up with it!" (2 Corinthians 11:4)

So, yes we need to be able to tell the difference, to evaluate each group and every person >

"Test all things; hold fast what is good." (1 Thessalonians 5:21)

But we can see how ones are very set: no matter what right thing you offer . . . uh-uh. And they might have the Bible. So, how can this happen? My take is > if a person meets a person of some group, and that group gets the person to believe the person will "go to Heaven" . . . then that person is not going to accept that the group or the pastor is wrong. Because the person does not want to believe the guarantee of Heaven has come from a false source. They can make an idol of anyone they feel has guaranteed them of what will get them to Heaven. And so they put who-knows-who above question.

If they have accepted some person or what some group says to do, possibly nothing else will do.

But God's word says >

"we who first trusted in Christ" > in Ephesians 1:12.

And Jesus Himself guarantees us "all" >

"'Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I'm gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.'" (Matthew 11:28-29)

The first sentence made me spit coffee. “Gender Studies” professor. Notre Dame.
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