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Always in His Presence · 2025-11-18T17:10:38-0600

chevyontheriver said:
That's your WHOLE response? As if this is infallible teaching or something? Am I understanding you correctly here?

No - it is pointing out that the pope approved of the document - nothing to get apoplectic over. Obviously, if the good pope found error, as you have, he would not have agreed with the writing.

Fervent · 2025-11-18T17:00:28-0600

Mark Quayle said:
Mark Quayle said:
—"What more is needed"? Context is needed. It is not talking about him desiring that absolutely all sapient sentients responsible to God be saved, nor even all humans.
—"What more is needed"? Reasoning use of language is needed. It is not double-minded for God to feel outrage at disbelief and to call it desire for the opposite (I say, supposing, for the sake of argument, that the verse was stand-alone, which it is not).

That was an "as if", in case you didn't pick up on it. I'm not saying that reasoning use of language is needed, but that if one assumes what you do, they still should look into use of language, without proof-texting as though the verse was stand-alone, when plain language can mean more than just God doesn't get what he planned on and hoped for. The notion that God doesn't get what he planned on is akin to the notion that God will not complete what he began.

I notice you left the first statement completely alone. Again, read the verse in context. It is not saying that God wishes or hopes that all humanity will be saved.

What is the context that is supposed to change "who wants everyone to be saved and return to knowledge of the truth" into something other than desiring all to be saved?

Mark Quayle said:
Nor yours, lacking basis for its existence —I hope you can see that.

You presume that God cannot make free will possible, you think too little of God in your assessment.

Mark Quayle said:
Continuing your confirmation bias —not to mention a circular argument. You are using your assumptions and definitions to prove your assumptions and definitions.

It's not confirmation bias, it's reality. Nor is it "circular' since its not 2 propositions dependent on one another, simply a fact that the determinist must exercise free will to make a denial of it.

Mark Quayle said:
Yep, definitely confirmation bias. You take me saying "choice" as defined by "free will". Choice is not free will. Do dogs choose? Of course they do. So do robots. I'm not saying we are dogs nor robots, but compare our wills and our choices to God's. —It does not even compute. We don't operate on his level. Not even close.

you don't seem to know what that word means.

eclipsenow · 2025-11-18T16:59:45-0600

The "Board of peace" is vague and fluffy language so far. We don't know what it will do.
It COULD be a good strategy to keep it that way for now.
But given Netanyahu is a bit like Trump - a hard right guy avoiding jail by staying in power - he REALLY wants to keep the hard right in his coalition happy! Otherwise, jail! So when he says he does not support Palestinian statehood - the world better take notice.

What's Trump's plans for that? For Israel in the West Bank?

Are they going to spank Israel's Militant Zionists when they inevitably break this agreement because they want to steal all Palestinian land?
Are they going to expel over half a MILLION illegal Zionist settlers in the West Bank? Are they going to give territorial sovereignty to the West Bank as well as Gaza?

I'm listening to a history of this whole conflict right now, and let me let you in on a little secret. There's only one reason that Gaza was handed over to the Palestinians. Israel ran out of Jews! That's it.

Israel decided to continue their slow 'killing me softly' strategy of illegal settler colonisation in the West Bank where they could concentrate their population resources. But they ran out of foreign Jews willing to uproot from their homelands and move on mass into another country to colonise it!

If expelling over 500,000 illegal colonisers from the West Bank is not part of the Palestinian solution - there is no Palestinian solution.

They also need to build an internationally protected DMZ super-highway and fast rail between Gaza and the West Bank so that Palestine can have a functional state.

lucypevensie · 2025-11-18T16:53:03-0600

“Wrong answer!” said the teacher.

lucypevensie · 2025-11-18T16:50:25-0600

Since I don’t know, can you tell me?

Always in His Presence · 2025-11-18T16:42:50-0600

House Democrat exchanged texts with Epstein during 2019 congressional hearing

“During the hearing, Congresswoman Plaskett received texts from staff, constituents and the public at large offering advice, support and in some cases partisan vitriol, including from Epstein,” Plaskett’s spokesperson, Angeline Jabbar, said in a statement to CNN. “As a former prosecutor she welcomes information that helps her get at the truth and took on the GOP that was trying to bury the truth. The congresswoman has previously made clear her long record combating sexual assault and human trafficking, her disgust over Epstein’s deviant behavior and her support for his victims.”

Bro.T · 2025-11-18T16:42:27-0600

See, spiritual wickness is in the pulpits of the church, which is the highest place on the earth. The church is the true government that governs the earth. The men in the postitons of feeding the flock teaches the lies of the Devil, they deceive the people into worshiping another Jesus. Paul said in 2Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. Now any Christian in their right mind wouldn’t dare say that it’s okay to steal, kill or commit adultery or break any of the other seven commandments. But when it comes to the fourth commandment, people avoid it like a plague! They are either uninformed about which day is the Sabbath day of the God of the Bible or they are just following the tradition of religion that was passed down through the family or maybe they have let some preacher give them other excuses for ignoring God’s true day of worship.

Lets take a look at some very important imformation Paul said in Ephesian 6:13-17 - Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

We must have the whole armor on, not half or one piece but all. The enemies’ weapon is bad doctrine; this bad doctrine is all around us. Our faith or belief in the Lord will protect us from all our enemies. How you might ask? By walking in righteousness, which is following the commandments, we will be at peace. Not only peace, if we endure to the end we will obtain salvation. As we have seen, we have an offensive weapon also. The sword of the spirit, which is the word of God. The word of God spoken in truth and in righteousness will defeat any enemy.

For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. (Hebrews 4:12)

peaceful-forest · 2025-11-18T16:39:37-0600

I'm surprised that my discussion thread about Adam over in the Egalitarian forum hasn't had any responses.

joymercy · 2025-11-18T16:37:48-0600

The OP article states that:
"Bozorov first crossed illegally into the U.S. in February 2023. Border Patrol arrested him, but he was later released into the country under Biden administration policies. ICE says he is now in custody pending removal."

Who hired him?

RileyG · 2025-11-18T16:37:36-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Old news, but Trump pardoned all these people at the beginning of his term.

Trump pardons anti-abortion activists who blockaded clinic entrances
Lauren Handy was sentenced to nearly five years in prison for leading the blockade by directing blockaders to link themselves together with locks and chains to block the clinic’s doors.

The detail about the pardon showed up in another story in Cosmopolitan involving Handy and the PAAU that can't be shared, due to language.

Sigh. I have no words.

RileyG · 2025-11-18T16:36:14-0600

BPPLEE said:
Good job

Thank you!

Belk · 2025-11-18T16:00:21-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Man Regrets Trump Vote After CBP Drags Him From Truck: ‘Worst Decision’
Willy Aceituno, 46, a Honduran-born United States citizen, described being stopped twice by Border Patrol agents while on his way to work in North Carolina's largest city, according to the Associated Press.

He said that during the second encounter, agents broke his car window, forced him out of the vehicle and placed him on the ground. Aceituno was released after officers verified his U.S. citizenship.

"It was the worst decision of my life," Aceituno told MS NOW. When asked why he voted for Trump, Aceituno cited the president's stance on border security and the economy.

"He said he was going to catch the criminals, but right now, he doesn't follow criminals. He goes specific to Latino people," Aceituno told the outlet.

Belk · 2025-11-18T15:50:27-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Turning Point leader, former GOP Rep pleads guilty to attempted election fraud
Former Republican state legislator Austin Smith pleaded guilty Monday to what he previously called “ludicrous” charges that he personally forged more than 100 signatures on his petitions for reelection last year.

The Republican from Surprise was a member of the far-right Arizona Freedom Caucus, which has a history of spreading false claims of election fraud in the 2020 presidential election and pushed for election law changes in the state legislature.

At the time he was indicted, Smith was strategic director of Turning Point Action, Turning Point USA’s advocacy arm. TPUSA is a far-right organization based in Phoenix that aims to mobilize young conservatives founded by Charlie Kirk, who was shot and killed in September while speaking to a group of college students in Utah.

Smith pleaded guilty to the reduced charges as part of a plea agreement that gives him the possibility of avoiding a felony conviction.

Akita Suggagaki · 2025-11-18T15:45:59-0600

Lady Bug said:
That's what they say. All the churches I've described are not small, though, lol.

Even as Ii wrote that I wondered. Small churches can be dominated more easily by prominent figures and families. Or at least I would guess.

A G · 2025-11-18T15:43:03-0600

Welcome and I want to express my thanks once again to our Lord and St Jude thank you for today and thank you for keeping us safe

joymercy · 2025-11-18T15:33:02-0600

A Message for Overcoming Sin - Padre Pio Press

essentialsaltes · 2025-11-18T15:30:12-0600

And remember, no more than two dolls per child, while we suffer these temporary hardships cause by Trump's policies.

Paidiske · 2025-11-18T15:17:09-0600

IME, the challenge is getting people to go to such groups. Most won't.

rambot · 2025-11-18T15:13:54-0600

I am surprised zero.

I feel like I even had predicted that this was probable...just don't wanna take the time to necro the thread

Christsfreeservant · 2025-11-18T15:09:52-0600

jacks said:
Good points.

The only thing a majority can tell you is what most people think. It has no bearing on what is right.
If you ask a group of people a difficult question, the majority will get it wrong.

Thank you.

essentialsaltes · 2025-11-18T15:08:08-0600

‘Everyone is being screamed at’: Insiders say Stephen Miller irate as deportations lagging

Insiders are saying the Department of Homeland Security's ICE hiring is in "chaos" and Homeland Security Advisor Stephen Miller is reportedly angry over "lagging" deportation numbers.

A DHS source told The Daily Beast on Monday that President Donald Trump's push to "throw money around" while "panic at the top of government” has unfolded with Miller's disappointment over agents not reaching Trump's goal of 3,000 deportations per day.

Hiring within the agency has also presented other problems — agents joining before badges, system access or guns are available.

"some of them taking home north of $250,000 for office-based shiftwork, per multiple sources who spoke to the Beast," the outlet reports.

Government efficiency at work!

RileyG · 2025-11-18T14:55:30-0600

May God bless them abundantly!

RileyG · 2025-11-18T14:54:54-0600

jacks said:
My wife and I eat very well and spend about $300 per month on food. We avoid buying processed food since it is so expensive. (Also not as healthy for you.) We could spend less if we tried to, but we like our fancy dinners!

Very nice!

JustaPewFiller · 2025-11-18T14:54:49-0600

Oh my goodness!

When I saw "protests" in the OP, I assumed it was locals. It was not. It was lawmakers protesting, saying the change was un-Islamic

From the article linked in the OP.....

‘Un-Islamic’

The presentation and passage of the bill triggered heated scenes in the provincial House, with opposition lawmakers shouting slogans and creating a ruckus. During the chaos, opposition members encircled the speaker’s dais and tore copies of the bill, claiming the legislation violated Islamic law.

Speaking on the floor of the House, opposition leader Younus Aziz Zehri criticized the legislation, reiterating that his party, Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam-Fazl (JUI-F), would not support any law they believe violates Islamic teachings.

“The law has been approved merely to please non-governmental organizations,” he claimed.

Opposition lawmaker Asghar Tareen said that although the bill had been passed, the opposition would challenge it in court. Following their protest, opposition lawmakers staged a walkout while shouting slogans against the newly adopted bill.

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