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rocknanchor · 2025-11-14T06:34:26-0600

What a trajectory of error it is to turn one’s back on the Holy Spirit’s choice of words for each of us “not to think more highly of himself than he ought”(Rom 12:3). Not only for the flock of God to heed, but OS who take part to exceed DO.

For that is all that is required is to take part in the dismantling spiritual communion, AKA: dreadful quench of the Holy Spirit. Making it easy to sow the needed discord to garner more and more disciples. Spirit of Christ, recover in ourselves to forgive thoughts that has done this.

Just as the Apostle said following such actions, “when you come together, it is not the Lord’s Supper you eat”. Behold what ease of calamity we grant from you guessed it, from error-strapped OS.

How oft-comes the rebuttal; ‘the gates, the gates of hell are nowhere in overcoming sight!’ Oblivious, neither is the awareness, neither is the sensitivity to hear when it slams against a spiritually dull eardrum.

Revelation’s harlot, Babylon, does corrupt all, including the regular churched to welcome error when care is not upheld, to which God tells his own to reward her double to all she has rewarded you. DH (Double Honor) and DD (Double Dishonor).

Richard T · 2025-11-14T06:25:30-0600

Anonymous9090 said:
Pray that Jesus Christ leads Christian pastor, priests, & all people in Christian ministries to Denounce the use of AI technology as a significant other, therapist, shrink, etc.:

https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2025/11/11/the-promise-and-the-perils-of-using-ai-for-therapy

Yes, denounce as needed by all Christians in leadership and by other faiths as well for any evil, sinful or misguided purpose. I pray too that for most ai will not be a stumbling block but rather a blessing when used in good practice.

JimR-OCDS · 2025-11-14T06:22:32-0600

Vanellus said:
The OP stated he was a "Muslim" in a way that implied that would be a bad thing for New York who don't need any help from me or you in deciding who to vote for.

"Democratic socialism" - like in Scandinavian countries for many years since WW2 - of course the people in those countries are all poverty stricken as a result. How's their life expectancy cf US?

But what Mamdani is advocating is not democratic socialism like in the Scandinavian countries. He's calling for the city to
abolish the police department, to take over the grocery stores and to tax white neighborhoods higher than minority
neighborhoods.

This is not an egalitarian society as they have in the Scandinavian countries.

Richard T · 2025-11-14T06:19:10-0600

Michie said:
New research reveals which U.S. states are the most and least charitable during the Christmas season, a time often defined by generosity, approaches.

A study compiled by WalletHub and released on Monday ranked U.S. states from most charitable to least charitable, based on two categories: the amount of volunteering and service that residents of each state engage in, as well as the amount they donate to charity.

Factors that influenced a state’s score on volunteering and service included the volunteer rate, number of volunteer hours per capita, the share of the population that does favors for their neighbors, the amount of money that people would lend their neighbors in need, the share of the population that collects and distributes food, the share of the population that collects and distributes clothes, the share of the population that fundraises or sells items to raise money, and the share of the population that engages in general labor.

Continued below.

Which states are most and least charitable? New study answers

New research reveals which U S states are the most charitable and least charitable as the Christmas season, which is often defined by generosity, approaches

www.christianpost.com

Congrats to Wyoming and Utah for leading the nation. I imagine that the high amounts of giving and volunteering are linked to community ties including religion. Course one of the criteria was sheltering the homeless. If Wyoming did not do that in the winter, some would die. Interestingly Oregon made the top ten. Perhaps some liberals there really do care?

JimR-OCDS · 2025-11-14T06:17:44-0600

Then it would depend on the age of the people making the loan on whether or not they qualify for a fifth year mortgage.

Either way, it's the banks that make the decision.

JimR-OCDS · 2025-11-14T06:16:02-0600

Fr Leo on the issue;

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Larniavc · 2025-11-14T06:11:58-0600

7thKeeper said:
Hundreds of Korean workers detained in Georgia to file lawsuit against ICE - The Korea Times

Hundreds of Korean engineers who were arrested and detained during an immigration raid at a Hyundai-LG Energy Solution battery plant in Georgia in...

www.koreatimes.co.kr

The article doesn't say where they are filing the lawsuit, but I'd assume South Korea? Will have to see if other articles clarify this.

Another example of big business being the driver of the ‘immigration’ problem.

Larniavc · 2025-11-14T06:10:12-0600

jonojim1337 said:
I have a lot of misaligned joints and crack them all the time. However, I know how to do it with the right amount of force and angle to get a ”damp” crack that stimulates synovial fluid production.

Seeing the commercials chiropractors make themselves is just painful. They seem to be giving way more force and angle than what the patients need. You can hear their joints weren’t ready for that manoeuvre.

Chiropractic relies on vitalism which is basically a magical energy.

I’m surprised a Christian would go for that.

Larniavc · 2025-11-14T06:06:02-0600

Valletta said:
While the BBC sincerely regrets the manner in which the video clip was edited, we strongly disagree there is a basis for a defamation claim,

Yeah that makes sense. I can’t see any harm done. Trump fans would never have been taken in by something as simple as being told something that was clearly untrue on the tele.

Jane Chai · 2025-11-14T06:02:40-0600

Dear brothers and sisters in Christ,

Today I experienced a very difficult moment at work. I was scolded by my boss, and it has left me feeling deeply sad and overwhelmed—I have been crying much of the day. Despite this, I want to continue to forgive, to love, and to maintain a peaceful and positive heart in my workplace.

Please pray for me that God would:

Heal my heart from the sadness and hurt I am feeling.

Help me forgive fully and not hold resentment.

Strengthen me to show love and patience to my boss and colleagues.

Give me peace and joy as I continue to work faithfully in this environment.

Guide me in humility and grace in every interaction at work.

I truly want to honor God through my attitude and actions, even in difficult circumstances. Your prayers and encouragement mean a lot to me.

Thank you and God bless.

Jerry N. · 2025-11-14T05:50:04-0600

Lukaris said:
C.S. Lewis in his book: The Great Divorce says this is so because we are bound by time but the Lord isn’t.

I had mentioned this in another thread in post #107 ( quoting from Lewis etc.)

Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

(β) Tradition.—The historical objections to the doctrine of eternal punishment may really be reduced to one head—viz. the views of Origen. In his “De Principiis,” i. 6, this great man gives it as his opinion that even the devils will undergo a long course of purification and be saved at last...

www.christianforums.com

I haven’t seen that post, but thank you for your response. It would help answer the question about all of the people who have never heard the gospel.

Richard T · 2025-11-14T05:44:11-0600

The government always picks some people to be winners and losers. Fortunately, for most of us we are generally only helped or hurt in small er ways. Still those small ways can add up. In general Trump is seen as not doing much to help the lower classes. He is the one that took the SNAP fulfillment to the Supreme court to deny their allocations. Trump too extended the tax cuts to the rich while imposing tariffs on all Americans. Trump has helped some workers though in the USA. but that help has some high costs. I have seen former studies about how much it has cost to the U.S. government to save an auto industry job. Sometimes the findings are a million plus. Yes, that as a policy in the past, America jobs were protected for over a million each. So that is not an economy that helps all. The reality is that most politicians only want to help those that help them. So you have to find true public servants, not rented politicians with their own self interests.

Consider the case of VP Pence. He did a decent job but was cast aside because he followed the constitution and rightly certified the election. Too many Americans are low information voters and deluded in the policy prescriptions of extremists in both parties. Of course I hope this changes.

In my years involved in politics, there are some public servants out there. Most elected ones never get promoted because no one wants to back someone that can not be bought and money runs U.S. politics. I do think though that we will see many charlatans exposed. Praise God that he likes justice and dislikes oppression.

chevyontheriver · 2025-11-14T05:31:40-0600

Michie said:
The Vatican bank has rehired a married couple fired last year for breaking the financial institution’s internal regulations forbidding workplace marriages.

The Institute for the Works of Religion (IOR) — which manages financial assets entrusted to it by the Holy See, the Vatican City State, and Catholic institutions globally — rehired the couple in a negotiated settlement following the couple’s filing of a wrongful termination lawsuit in January, a union for Vatican lay employees announced Wednesday.

Silvia Carlucci and Domenico Fabiani married on Aug. 31, 2024. The IOR fired the couple a month later, on Oct. 2, citing a rule introduced by the financial institution in September 2024 that explicitly forbids the employment of spouses or other close family members.

The Association of Lay Employees of the Vatican (ADLV) celebrated the outcome of the case — the couple was dubbed by the Italian media as the “Romeo and Juliet of the Vatican” for defying a rule they considered unjust and outdated — as a victory for justice and good sense.

Continued below.

Vatican bank reinstates couple fired for violating married employees rule

The Institute for the Works of Religion (IOR) rehired the couple in a negotiated settlement over a wrongful termination lawsuit filed in January.

www.catholicnewsagency.com

So they married in August, the rule came into effect in September, and they were fired in October. And it took a year for them to get their jobs back. Wow. The Vatican financial institutions are a morass of corruption and they want to reform by firing people who want to be above board sexually by actually getting married? I want cardinal Pell back.

Normandt · 2025-11-14T05:21:37-0600

Homily Saturday, November 15 2025

32nd OT

Ws 18:14-16; 19:6-9

"Out of the Red Sea an unimpeded road. (…) They ranged about like horses, and leapt like lambs."

Joy in God's Love helps us move forward, free and confident.

Lk 18:1-8

Jesus says: "Will God be slow to answer them?"

God doesn't make anyone wait. But why do people wait and want proof that God is present?

Let us teach people that we are in the present moment. We are not in yesterday or tomorrow. God is present in the present, and we too are in this moment, now.

This is the simplest way to encounter God.

Let us often meditate on the simple, childlike joy within us.

God's Love is infinite to this joy within us. Let us allow Him to open our hearts to His joy, to His Love, and let us encounter Him, now, within ourselves.

Biblical texts: NAB-RE

Normand Thomas.

chevyontheriver · 2025-11-14T05:21:08-0600

Michie said:
At the @USCCB meeting

During a discussion of doctrine Strickland raised Fr. James Martin and the scandalous confirmation of an openly homosexual man with his 'husband'

He received absolutely no response from the chair or the panel

He'd clearly challenged a taboo topic of his fellow bishops -- the scandalous acceptance and celebration of homosexuality by 'Catholic' clergy and laity

This cannot remain a taboo subject for Catholic bishops because it is open defiance of Divine Revelation

Thank you @BishStrick

Continued below.
Strickland Ignored for Raising Issue of Gay Entering Church at USCCB – Deacon Nick Donnelly

Strickland is somehow poison for the rest of our bishops. Reminds me a tiny bit of the way Athanasius was treated, except when Athanasius fled to Rome he was well treated there. Strickland is treated like poison starting in Rome. Roma delinda est? I know I can’t say that.

A2SG · 2025-11-14T05:19:16-0600

Servus said:
Whatever the Democrats do wrong, they try blaming it on the Republicans.

I'm not blaming the Republican party for coming up with the ACA plan, that was the Heritage Foundation. But I do blame the Democratic party for implementing it. They should have gone with a much better single payer system instead.

Servus said:
The Schumer Shutdown: supposedly the republicans.

They intended to cut health care subsidies over objections from Democrats. Democrats responded by not voting on the continuing resolution to reopen the government (for a while anyway). On the other hand, denying SNAP benefits was a choice made by Trump and the Republican party. They had the money in an emergency fund and they refused to implement it, despite a court ordering them to do so.

Servus said:
Obamacare: supposedly the republicans.

Well, the Heritage Foundation did come up with the basic plan back in 1989, and Republicans proposed it in a bill back in 1993, but it was never passed. It wasn't until President Obama and democrats decided to implement that plan themselves that the GOP decided they no longer supported it, despite there being very few changes in the interim.

These are facts.

Servus said:
Perhaps.

Single payer would be much more efficient, and a lot more cost effective. Just for starters, the for-profit health insurance industry generates billions in profit every single year, imagine what would happen if that money went to providing health care to those who needed it.

-- A2SG, but I guess we all need to ensure that health insurance executives and CEOs keep getting their huge bonuses instead....

Richard T · 2025-11-14T05:01:05-0600

rodtrent said:
Good day all. Long time Christian and a well-established author for fiction and technology (you can find my stuff on Amazon and at my blog https://RodsFictionBooks.com) but with everything going on in the world, feel I need to refocus my experiences on more important matters. I have recently turned my focus on devotionals for personal, small group, and church use with topics I believe are timely. Each book has its own free Resource Kit and the ability for everyone to directly improve it.

Happy to share they are available on Amazon and the Resource Kit is housed on GitHub (can't take the geek out of me completely, lol)

Divine Design Devotionals: Amazon.com

Resource Kits: GitHub - rod-trent/DivineDesign: This is the repository for the electronic resource kits for Rod Trent's non-fiction, faith-based work

Thanks for sharing your talents with us. I pray you can find some inspiration here in CF. Plenty of topic to learn about and contribute too as well. Welcome to CF. God bless.

tritos · 2025-11-14T04:58:23-0600

Clare73 said:
Does anti-Semitism differ from anti-Muslimism, or anti-Communism, or anti-Facism, etc.?

How does this work?

Anti-semitism tends to be more insanse and laden with conspiracy theories etc.

There are various reasons for this, but a big one is that Judaism is such an old religion so a big pile of nonsense has accumulated over the years around it unfortunately (to be clear, I'm criticizing anti-semitism, not Judaism).

pastorwaris · 2025-11-14T04:41:31-0600

GloryToHisName said:
I’ve been studying Daniel 9:24–27 closely and created a detailed clause-by-clause chart of the prophecy, including Hebrew words, chiastic layers, and proposed historical and eschatological fulfillment. My translation emphasizes that the 70 weeks are “divided out” (נֶחְתַּךְ), and verse 25 mentions “the second sixty” (בַּשְּׁנַיִם שִׁשִּׁים), suggesting a second 70-week cycle beyond the first 70 fulfilled historically (457 BC – 33 AD).

══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════
Verse | Phrase / Clause | Hebrew Key Words | Chiastic Layer | Fulfillment / Date Marker
──────|----------------|-----------------|----------------|-------------------------
9:24 | There are divided out seventy weeks | נֶחְתַּךְ | A – Divine Purpose | Dual cycle: first 70 (457–33 BC), second 70 (1542–2032 CE)
9:24 | For your holy city | קָדְשְׁךָ | A | First 70: Jerusalem rebuilt 457–408 BC
9:24 | And your people's rebellion | עַמְּךָ | A | Second 70: Israel aligns with man of sin, 1967–2032 CE
9:24 | For the restraining of lawlessness | לְכַלֵּא חַטָּאת | A | Second 70: restraining the man of lawlessness (2 Thess 2), 2025–2028.5 CE
9:24 | Marked out for the coming punishment of purging | עָוֹן | A | Second 70: end of tribulation / Day of the Lord, ~2032 CE
9:24 | For the sealing of the vision and the prophet | וּלְחָתֵם חָזוֹן | A | Second 70: vision fully realized in eschatological age, ~2032 CE
9:24 | Unto the age of righteousness; anointed holy of holies | צֶדֶק, וְלִמְשֹׁחַ קֹדֶשׁ קָדָשִׁים | A | Second 70: age of righteousness begins, ~2032 CE
──────|----------------|-----------------|----------------|-------------------------
9:25 | From the word that went forth | מִן-מֹצָא דָבָר | B – Starting Points | First 70: 457 BC decree; Second 70: 1542 CE Suleiman rebuilds
9:25 | For the restoration and building of Jerusalem | לְהָשִׁיב וְלִבְנוֹת יְרוּשָׁלִם | B | First 70: 457–408 BC walls rebuilt; Second 70: 1542 CE walls rebuilt
9:25 | For a ruler and an anointed one for Jerusalem | נָגִיד וּמָשִׁיחַ | B | First 70: Ezra & Nehemiah; Second 70: typological “anointed ruler” / covenant leadership, 1967–2032 CE
9:25 | It shall take seven sevens to be built | שִׁבְעָה שִׁבְעִים | B | First 70: 49 years, 457–408 BC
9:25 | Returned at the second sixty | בַּשְּׁנַיִם שִׁשִּׁים | B | Second 70: 1967 CE, second 60th week, pivotal chiastic marker
9:25 | Anguish and diligence in streets | — | B | Both 70s: First 70 = post-rebuilding trials; Second 70 = tribulation, 2025–2032 CE
──────|----------------|-----------------|----------------|-------------------------
9:26 | Two and sixty weeks after | שִׁשִּׁים וּשְׁנַיִם | C – Pivot | First 70: Messiah cut off, 26–33 AD
9:26 | None of the Messiah will be cut off | וְאֵין לוֹ | C | First 70: preserved remnant of faithful Jews, 26–33 AD
9:26 | People of the ruler shall come like a flood | עַם-נָגִיד יָבוֹא בַּשֶּׁטֶף | C | Second 70: eschatological armies / enemies, 1967–2025 CE
9:26 | City and sanctuary destroyed | הָעִיר וְהַקֹּדֶשׁ יִשָּׁחְתּוּ | C | First 70: 70 AD temple destruction; Second 70: final judgment & abomination destruction, ~2032 CE
──────|----------------|-----------------|----------------|-------------------------
9:27 | He shall cause many of the covenant to prevail | וְהִגְבִּיר בְּרִית לָרַבִּים | D – Central Climax | Second 70: 2025 CE start of final 7-year week
9:27 | For the week and a half of one | וְחֲצִי הַשָּׁבוּעַ | D | Second 70: mid-week, 3½ yrs into final week, 2028.5 CE
9:27 | Upon offering and sacrifice he shall bring to end abominations | מִנְחָה וְזֶבַח … שִׁקּוּצִים | D | Second 70: eschatological cleansing of temple / people, 2025–2032 CE
9:27 | Until the one who makes desolate pours out what is decreed for consummation | שֹׁמֵם | D | Second 70: consummation / Day of the Lord, ~2032 CE
══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════
Notes:
- Chiastic pattern: A–B–C–D–C’–B’–A’
- Hebrew keywords highlighted for structural clarity
- Second 60th week = 1967 CE pivotal marker
- Restraining lawlessness = 2 Thess 2 reference; final week = revealing of man of sin

Questions for the community:

1. Does the Hebrew wording and syntax provide linguistic support for two distinct 70-week cycles, rather than a single 490-year timeline?

2. Can the chiastic pattern (A–B–C–D–C’–B’–A’) be reasonably defended from a grammatical and syntactical standpoint?

3. Are there any objections from the Hebrew text itself (singular/plural forms, verb agreements, semantic scope) that might favor a single-cycle interpretation?

I’d love insights from scholars or practitioners experienced in Biblical Hebrew, Daniel studies, or eschatological prophecy analysis.

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══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════
DANIEL 9:24–27 DUAL 70-WEEK CHIASM
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CHIASTIC LAYER: A B C D

FIRST 70 WEEKS — HISTORICAL FULFILLMENT
──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
457 BC 408 BC 26 AD 33 AD 70 AD
|---------------|---------------|---------------|---------------|
Word goes 7 weeks Messiah Messiah cut Temple
forth: decree (49 yrs) appears off (וְאֵין לוֹ) destroyed
to rebuild Built walls (נָגִיד/ People of City & Sanctuary
Jerusalem /city מָשִׁיחַ) the ruler destroyed
(מִן-מֹצָא completed rejected (הָעִיר וְהַקֹּדֶשׁ)
דָבָר, בִּירוּשָׁלִם) Messiah)
נָגִיד וּמָשִׁיחַ)

Verse refs: 9:24–26

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
SECOND 70 WEEKS — MODERN / ESCHATOLOGICAL FULFILLMENT
──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
1542 CE 1967 CE 2025 CE 2028.5 CE 2032 CE
|---------------|---------------|---------------|---------------|
Word goes Second 60th Start final Midpoint of Consummation
forth: Suleiman week marker 7-year week week, half- / Day of Lord
rebuilt walls (בַּשְּׁנַיִם Many of the week (וַחֲצִי ends / holy
of Jerusalem שִׁשִּׁים) covenant הַשָּׁבוּעַ) place anointed
(מִן-מֹצָא prevail (וְהִגְבִּיר)
דָבָר)

Abominations cease (שִׁקּוּצִים)
Until the one who makes desolate pours out decree (שֹׁמֵם)

Verse refs: 9:24–27
──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
CHIASTIC STRUCTURE KEY:

A — Holy City / People’s Rebellion (v.24)
B — Starting points / restoration (v.25)
C — Messiah cut off / people of ruler (v.26)
D — Many of covenant prevail / final week & half-week / cleansing (v.27)
C’ — Mirror of C: eschatological “people of ruler” & destruction
B’ — Mirror of B: second 60th week / Jerusalem returned
A’ — Mirror of A: consummation / sealing up / age of righteousness
══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════

Dear brother in Christ,

Thank you for sharing such a thoughtful, diligent, and deeply researched study of Daniel 9:24–27. I truly appreciate the level of devotion and intellectual honesty that went into your analysis. Daniel 9 is one of the richest and most debated prophetic passages, and your attempt to trace linguistic, structural, and historical elements is commendable.
Let me offer a positive, encouraging response, while also providing a few biblical clarifications that may strengthen your study where needed.

1. Does Daniel 9 support a dual 70-week fulfillment?

A constructive and biblical “Yes but with caution.”

There is room within the prophetic genre for dual-layer fulfillment (what scholars call prophetic telescoping or typological fulfillment).
The Hebrew verb נֶחְתַּךְ (neḥtakh, “decreed / cut out / divided out”) in 9:24 can linguistically allow for a “set-apart period” without specifying strict limitation to a single cycle.
In Scripture, God sometimes applies a single prophetic pattern twice:

Day of the Lord, "historical (Isa 13) and eschatological (Joel 2–3)."
Abomination of Desolation, "Antiochus IV (Dan 11), Roman destruction (Matt 24), and an end-time antichristic pattern."
Temple imagery, "physical, spiritual, and eschatological (Ezek 40–48; Rev 21–22)."

So a dual 70-week structure is not impossible within biblical theology.

However…

The Hebrew text does not explicitly state “two distinct 70-week cycles.”
Your view remains interpretive, not grammatical necessity.
Still, you are right that the text invites deep structural exploration.

2. Chiastic structure (A–B–C–D–C′–B′–A′): Is it defensible?

Yes, chiasm is very common in Hebrew literature, especially prophetic and poetic texts.
Examples:

Psalm 1
Daniel 2–7 is a well-known Aramaic chiasm (A–B–C–C′–B′–A′).
Lamentations 1–5
Isaiah 6

Your proposed chiastic layers for Daniel 9:24–27 have merit, particularly:

A: Purpose clauses (v.24)
B: Starting points / Jerusalem (v.25)
C: Messiah & destruction (v.26)
D: The covenant / final week (v.27)

Scholars such as Goldingay, Collins, and Waltke affirm that Daniel frequently uses chiasms, so your proposal is not out of place.
The only caution is that some connections (such as “second 60th week = 1967”) rely more on historical correlation than textual markers.

3. Hebrew objections? Single-cycle vs dual-cycle

Here is where we must be careful. The Hebrew grammar, taken on its own, naturally leans toward one 70-week unit, because:

• The number “seventy” (שִׁבְעִים) appears only once (v.24)

Hebrew typically repeats the number if a second unit is intended.

• The “seven weeks + sixty-two weeks” (v.25) grammatically forms a single continuous chain

שִׁבְעָה שָׁבֻעִים וְשִׁשִּׁים וּשְׁנַיִם
This is one long span in classical Hebrew.

• The phrase בַּשְּׁנַיִם שִׁשִּׁים

You interpreted as “the second sixty.”
However, in Hebrew syntax it is normally read as:
“In the sixty-two” (the same period mentioned previously).

So the standard Hebrew reading supports a single timeline grammatically, even if theologically one might argue for dual fulfillment.
Your interpretation is innovative, but the Hebrew text does not require two cycles.

Dear Brother, your study shows hunger for truth, deep respect for the Word, and a willingness to wrestle with difficult prophecy just like Daniel himself (Dan 9:2–3). Whether one adopts a single-cycle or dual-cycle view, your focus on holiness, righteousness, covenant faithfulness, and the triumph of God’s Kingdom is exactly what prophecy is designed to produce (Rev 19:10).

Daniel’s message whether fulfilled once or twice points us to:

✓ The finished work of Messiah (v.26)

✓ The coming final cleansing (v.27)

✓ The triumph of everlasting righteousness (v.24)

Greek parallels in the New Testament reinforce this:
Paul speaks of ἀνομία (lawlessness), ἀποκάλυψις (revealing), and καιρός (appointed time) in 2 Thess 2, echoing Daniel’s motifs.
So your emphasis on an eschatological completion is thoroughly biblical.

My Dear Brother,

Keep digging. Keep refining. Your love for Scripture honors the Author of Scripture.
Even where interpretations differ, the spirit of your study is upright, humble, and God-seeking.

If you continue polishing the linguistic foundations, especially the Hebrew syntax. you will bless many believers with this work.

Shalom and blessings in Messiah,
Pastor Waris

Larniavc · 2025-11-14T04:18:32-0600

MarkSB said:
It... was a joke.

But, noted. Poe's law certainly seems to apply to ardent MAGA supporters.

My apologies. I really did think you were serious. But to be fair this, a Christian forum, is replete with such fantastic views it’s so hard to tell.

Valletta · 2025-11-14T03:55:15-0600

reddogs said:
Please, you have never seen how the Catholics in Latin countries hold apparitions to be. So whether evil spirits or demons appeared as 'apparitions' at Loudes or Fatima or in any of the multiple sightings, they will believe it, especially when it comes to Marian apparitions. Its all spiritualism and of another source as Mary is dead and buried in the ground, so it is not her that is showing itself. Here is just a bit of 'aspirations' and beliefs the people hold that you are dealing with...

...Mexico City (Tepeyac Hill), in 1531, Our Lady of Guadalupe came, averted holocaust, stopped the merciless sacrifices of innocents to a blood-thirsty pagan god, and created Family.

Our Lady of the Miraculous Medal - In Paris, in 1830, She came to a little postulant and gave her and us hope for the world - "Come to the foot of the Altar, great graces will be poured out to those who ask for them."

Our Lady of La Salette, in 1846, She wept and prophesied what disaster would come to pass if we did not convert.

Our Lady of Lourdes In Lourdes, in 1858, Mother Mary came and introduced Herself as the Immaculate Conception, affirming Her son - Blessed Pope Pius IX - and his dogma of the Immaculate Conception, which dispelled the heresy of Pantheism.

Our Lady of Pontmain - In Pontmain, in 1871, She came and ended the Franco-Prussian War; She gave us hope.
In Knock, in 1879, although She said nothing, She spoke volumes: Protect the Eucharist. If you destroy the Eucharist; you destroy the Church. Protect the Word, which is in danger. If you destroy the Word, you destroy the Church. Protect the family; if you destroy the family, you destroy the Church, you destroy the world.

Our Lady of Fatima - In Fatima, in 1917, Our Lady warned that unless we convert, Russia would take over the world. And but for Her precious son, Pope John Paul II, this growling bear would have done just that. In Fatima, She warned us that unless we change, many souls would be lost; and that unless we pray and sacrifice many would go to hell. Did we listen?

Our Lady of Beauraing - In Beauraing, Belgium, in 1932, Mary asked the children, "Do you love my Son?" To which they responded "Yes!" She then asked, "Do you love Me?" Again they responded "Yes!" She turned to them and said, "Then sacrifice yourself for Me." Our Lady was telling us to sacrifice, because She knew that it is only through prayer, fasting and sacrifice can we overcome the onslaught of the devil and his cohorts. Twelve days after Our Lady said good-bye to the children in Beauraing, Our Lady came to Banneux, fifty miles from where She appeared to the children in Beauraing. Our Lady came and pleaded: "Believe in Me and I will believe in you." Our Lady, 16 years after Fatima, appeared in Belgium and again warned us. Did we listen? Do we listen?
Mother Mary went to Belgium and warned us; and in less than a month, the path to total world domination was paved. The world had not listened to Mother Mary and the table of contents of the devil's book to hell was getting near full. Hitler became chancellor to Germany and began his conquest or scorch campaign. World War I was supposed to be the war to end all wars, and here it was, and another World War was on the horizon. World War II was upon us, before we knew it. Everything moved so fast. People were not praying, not yet. They thought the answer was accommodation and compromise. Powerful countries compromised smaller nations. After all, it was not them. The enemy was not threatening them. All of a sudden, it was their turn. Did we then go down on our knees?

When the Lord comes, people will be so busy running to the malls, trying to buy up happiness, they will miss Him and His salvation completely. Is that why Mother Mary keeps on appearing? These Marian Apparitions of Our Lady continue to weave a pattern of salvation if heeded or destruction if not. We do no listen!

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Will you listen and respond?
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Our Lady of Akita

Our Lady of Altotting

Our Lady of Banneux

Our Lady of Beauraing
Our Lady of the Cape

Our Lady of Czestochowa

Our Lady of Fatima

Our Lady of Good Counsel

Our Lady of Guadalupe

Our Lady of Knock

Our Lady of La Salette

Our Lady of Lourdes

Our Lady of Laus

Our Lady of Loreto and the Holy House

Our Lady of the Miraculous Medal

Our Lady of Ocotlan

Our Lady of Peace La Conquistadora NM

Our Lady of Pilar

Our Lady of Pompei

Our Lady of Pontmain

Our Lady of the Rosary

Our Lady of Tears

Our Lady of Siuliai - Lithuania

Our Lady Gate of Dawn - Lithuania.......

List of Marian Apparitions of Our Lady

Study the Marian Apparitions of Our Lady and you will see Mother Mary comes at the most crucial times in our lives.

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I don't know what a "Latin country" is. But yes there have been many apparitions and I don't know how many associated documented miraculous cures. Here is some documentation relating to miracles at Lourdes::

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"In April 1962, Vittorio Micheli, a soldier in the Italian Army, developed rapidly increasing pain in his left buttock region. X-rays of the left hip showed osteolysis involving the ilium and the roof of the acetabulum. A biopsy of the gluteal muscle showed cells of a sarcomatous character. He was not deemed to be a candidate for medical intervention, so neither radiotherapy nor chemotherapy was offered to him. In May 1963, racked with pain and unable to walk, he made a pilgrimage to Lourdes, following which he was cured of his sarcoma. His case was reviewed by the International Medical Committee of Lourdes in 1969 and in 1971. There was unanimous agreement that this was a medically inexplicable cure."
The Miraculous Cure of a Sarcoma of the Pelvis: Cure of Vittorio Micheli at Lourdes - PMC

"Carrel's case should seem important to Catholics, but not so much for the convincing of non-believers. Most of these will persist in their unbelief; Carrel's book will at most give second thoughts to some of them. Most of them will continue in the tracks of Emile Zola, who upon arriving at the Lourdes train station in 1898 declared to an army of newsmen that he would not believe that a miracle had occurred even if it did under his very eyes. (In fact, a famous cure did occur at Lourdes while Zola was on his pseudo-scientific fieldtrip.)"

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ArmyMatt · 2025-11-14T03:36:03-0600

sounds good to me as well

ARBITER01 · 2025-11-14T03:13:17-0600

CoreyD said:
Many philosophers debate for centuries, and never come to a conclusion.
As a Christian, how does one determine what is truth?
Is it by consulting what people says... be it there may be a multiplicity of opinions, ideas, interpretations, and the like?

How did early Christians view finding the truth?
How would Jesus establish truth?

Truth is directly from GOD by revelation of The Holy Spirit.

After Jesus was filled with The Holy Spirit, He was completely dependent upon Him.

ChubbyCherub · 2025-11-14T03:05:42-0600

There is a YouTube video about Texas running out of water. I'd say it has less to do with God and more to do with Satan using the governments to try to murder people.

Apparently, Wall Street is 'privatizing' water like oil.

Their words.

The Liturgist · 2025-11-14T02:18:03-0600

seeking.IAM said:
Thank you for your kind words. Just for the record because The Episcopal Church is so frequently maligned, my editorial comments in post #3 were not observations made about The Episcopal Church. Rather they come from my work with an unnamed progressive denomination of which I was not an adherent nor a member.

Indeed, I figured as much. And we both have the privilege of being members of much-maligned denominations, particularly since many of the oldest OCA parishes are known as Russian Orthodox. Indeed your denomination was always maligned by others as was ours; before it was Russophobia it was the accusation of idolatry and ethnocentricity. And before that, in the 18th century, St. Peter the Aleut was martyred because we were accused of schism and heresy.

St. Peter the Aleut, pray for us!

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1. Does Daniel 9 support a dual 70-week fulfillment?

A constructive and biblical “Yes but with caution.”

However…

2. Chiastic structure (A–B–C–D–C′–B′–A′): Is it defensible?

3. Hebrew objections? Single-cycle vs dual-cycle

• The number “seventy” (שִׁבְעִים) appears only once (v.24)

• The “seven weeks + sixty-two weeks” (v.25) grammatically forms a single continuous chain

• The phrase בַּשְּׁנַיִם שִׁשִּׁים

✓ The finished work of Messiah (v.26)

✓ The coming final cleansing (v.27)

✓ The triumph of everlasting righteousness (v.24)

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