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National Security Strategy
- By Tinker Grey
Most of @Aryeh Jay's posts are tongue -in-cheek.Donald Trump re-entered the Oval Office in January with a net approval rating of positive 6. Since then it has fallen, interrupted only by brief upticks. By early December it had dropped to -18. His polling numbers had only been that low once in his second term, back in October. This week it climbed back a bit, to -16.
Donald Trump’s approval rating
Follow our presidential approval rating poll tracker to see how favourably Americans view Mr Trumpwww.economist.com
You have another source not “fake”?
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Pew survey sheds light on characteristics of U.S. Catholic population
- By Michie
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
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About half of American adults who were raised Catholic and stayed in the Church said the faith continues to “fulfill their spiritual needs,” according to a Pew Research Center report.
The Dec. 15 report, “Why Do Some Americans Leave Their Religion While Others Stay?”, examines the religious switching of U.S. adults. It looks into the reasons why people stay or leave their childhood faith, addressing the social and demographic factors associated with the changes.
The report includes findings from a survey of 8,937 U.S. adults who are part of the Center’s American Trends Panel (ATP). The survey was conducted May 5–11 and its overall margin of error is 1.4 percentage points. It also uses information from the center’s 2023-24 Religious Landscape Study (RLS), a survey of 36,908 U.S. adults conducted from July 17, 2023, to March 4, 2024, with an overall margin of error of 0.8 percentage points.
While the report revealed many U.S. adults (35%) have left the religion they grew up in, the majority of Americans (56%) still identify with their childhood religion. Another 9% weren’t raised in a religion and still don’t have one today.
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The Dec. 15 report, “Why Do Some Americans Leave Their Religion While Others Stay?”, examines the religious switching of U.S. adults. It looks into the reasons why people stay or leave their childhood faith, addressing the social and demographic factors associated with the changes.
The report includes findings from a survey of 8,937 U.S. adults who are part of the Center’s American Trends Panel (ATP). The survey was conducted May 5–11 and its overall margin of error is 1.4 percentage points. It also uses information from the center’s 2023-24 Religious Landscape Study (RLS), a survey of 36,908 U.S. adults conducted from July 17, 2023, to March 4, 2024, with an overall margin of error of 0.8 percentage points.
While the report revealed many U.S. adults (35%) have left the religion they grew up in, the majority of Americans (56%) still identify with their childhood religion. Another 9% weren’t raised in a religion and still don’t have one today.
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Pew survey sheds light on characteristics of U.S. Catholic population
About half of American adults who were raised Catholic and stayed in the Church said the faith fulfills “their spiritual needs,” according to recent study.
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United Airlines settles suit over flight attendant’s expression of Catholic beliefs
- By Michie
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
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United Airlines reached a settlement with a flight attendant who alleged that the airline fired him for endorsing Catholic teachings on marriage and gender identity.
The former employee, Ruben Sanchez, of Anchorage, Alaska, alleged that United Airlines investigated his social media history after someone reported a private in-flight conversation he had with another Catholic flight attendant.
“Sanchez and his colleague discussed their working conditions and everyday life. As they were both Catholic, their discussion turned to Catholic theology and then, with United’s ‘Pride Month’ activities set to start on June 1, Catholic teachings on marriage and sexuality,” Sanchez’s complaint states.
The Catholic Church makes a distinction between homosexual orientation and homosexual activity. Same-sex attraction itself is not considered morally wrong, and homosexuals “must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity” (Catechism of the Catholic Church, 2358), with unjust discrimination avoided. The Church teaches that God’s design for sexuality is entwined with marriage and family life and is characterized by the exclusive, indissoluble covenant of marriage.
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The former employee, Ruben Sanchez, of Anchorage, Alaska, alleged that United Airlines investigated his social media history after someone reported a private in-flight conversation he had with another Catholic flight attendant.
“Sanchez and his colleague discussed their working conditions and everyday life. As they were both Catholic, their discussion turned to Catholic theology and then, with United’s ‘Pride Month’ activities set to start on June 1, Catholic teachings on marriage and sexuality,” Sanchez’s complaint states.
The Catholic Church makes a distinction between homosexual orientation and homosexual activity. Same-sex attraction itself is not considered morally wrong, and homosexuals “must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity” (Catechism of the Catholic Church, 2358), with unjust discrimination avoided. The Church teaches that God’s design for sexuality is entwined with marriage and family life and is characterized by the exclusive, indissoluble covenant of marriage.
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United Airlines settles lawsuit with fired flight attendant
United Airlines reached a settlement with a flight attendant who alleged the airline fired him for endorsing Catholic teachings on marriage and gender identity.
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Little Sisters of the Poor file another appeal over contraception mandate
- By Michie
- OBOB General Politics Forum
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The 14-year legal battle against federal contraceptive mandates will continue, with Little Sisters of the Poor and the federal government seeking to reinstate moral and religious exemptions that were established in 2017.
Little Sisters of the Poor have already won religious freedom cases on this subject twice at the Supreme Court level. The high court ruled in 2016 that the federal government must protect religious freedoms for those who oppose the contraceptives and in 2020 ruled that the federal government had the legal authority to adopt the broad exemptions established in 2017.
Those exemptions fully covered employers that had religious or moral objections to providing the contraceptives, some of which can be abortifacient. Under the rules, those employers were not required to include any contraceptive coverage in their insurance plans for employees.
In spite of the prior Supreme Court wins, a federal court in August 2025 struck down the 2017 exemptions on grounds that the Supreme Court had not yet ruled on.
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Little Sisters of the Poor have already won religious freedom cases on this subject twice at the Supreme Court level. The high court ruled in 2016 that the federal government must protect religious freedoms for those who oppose the contraceptives and in 2020 ruled that the federal government had the legal authority to adopt the broad exemptions established in 2017.
Those exemptions fully covered employers that had religious or moral objections to providing the contraceptives, some of which can be abortifacient. Under the rules, those employers were not required to include any contraceptive coverage in their insurance plans for employees.
In spite of the prior Supreme Court wins, a federal court in August 2025 struck down the 2017 exemptions on grounds that the Supreme Court had not yet ruled on.
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Little Sisters of the Poor file another appeal over contraception mandate
The legal battle against federal contraceptive mandates will continue.
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Chile elects conservative for president, defeating Communist Party opponent
- By Michie
- OBOB General Politics Forum
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After being edged out by 2.9% in the Nov. 16 general election by his Communist Party opponent Jeannette Jara, Republican Party candidate José Antonio Kast reversed the result in the Dec. 14 runoff vote to become the new president-elect of Chile.
With 58% of the vote, and in line with the polls that predicted him as the winner with more than 55%, Kast prevailed over Jara, who obtained 42%.
With 99.97% of the ballots counted, showing a difference of more than 2 million valid votes, the runoff election marks a change of political direction for the country, currently led by President Gabriel Boric of the political left.
Kast is slated to take office as president of Chile on March 11, 2026. On the same day, the legislators elected in November will also take office.
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With 58% of the vote, and in line with the polls that predicted him as the winner with more than 55%, Kast prevailed over Jara, who obtained 42%.
With 99.97% of the ballots counted, showing a difference of more than 2 million valid votes, the runoff election marks a change of political direction for the country, currently led by President Gabriel Boric of the political left.
Kast is slated to take office as president of Chile on March 11, 2026. On the same day, the legislators elected in November will also take office.
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Chile elects conservative for president, defeating Communist Party opponent
Republican Party candidate José Antonio Kast is now Chile’s president-elect.
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Jimmy Lai found guilty of national security violations, faces life in prison
- By Michie
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
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Jimmy Lai’s godfather weighs in on ‘phony’ guilty verdict
Catholic human rights and pro-democracy advocate Jimmy Lai was found guilty following his lengthy national security trial.
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Pope thankful for pro-life Nativity scene that ‘represents a life preserved from abortion’
- By Michie
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
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Pope Leo XIV on Monday thanked Costa Rican artist Paula Sáenz Soto for donating a pro-life Nativity scene to the Vatican, named “Gaudium” (“Joy”), which features a pregnant Virgin Mary.
“I thank the Costa Rican artist who, along with the message of peace of Christmas, also wanted to make an appeal for protecting life from conception,” the pope said during the audience he granted Dec. 15 to the delegations that prepared this year’s Christmas tree and Nativity scenes that will adorn the Vatican during the Christmas season.
The artwork from the Central American country has been on display since Dec. 15 in the Pope Paul VI Audience Hall at the Vatican, the large hall where the pope is now holding his Wednesday general audiences so pilgrims don’t have to endure the cold temperatures of the Roman winter in St. Peter’s Square.
In his address, the Holy Father alluded to its composition, mentioning the 28,000 colorful ribbons that symbolize lives saved thanks to the support provided by Catholic organizations to pregnant women in vulnerable situations.
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“I thank the Costa Rican artist who, along with the message of peace of Christmas, also wanted to make an appeal for protecting life from conception,” the pope said during the audience he granted Dec. 15 to the delegations that prepared this year’s Christmas tree and Nativity scenes that will adorn the Vatican during the Christmas season.
The artwork from the Central American country has been on display since Dec. 15 in the Pope Paul VI Audience Hall at the Vatican, the large hall where the pope is now holding his Wednesday general audiences so pilgrims don’t have to endure the cold temperatures of the Roman winter in St. Peter’s Square.
In his address, the Holy Father alluded to its composition, mentioning the 28,000 colorful ribbons that symbolize lives saved thanks to the support provided by Catholic organizations to pregnant women in vulnerable situations.
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Pope Leo XIV thankful for pro-life Nativity scene
Pope Leo XIV thanked Costa Rican artist Paula Sáenz Soto for donating a pro-life Nativity scene to the Vatican.
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Presbyterian Church of Queensland in Financial Difficulty
- By Bob Crowley
- Australian & New Zealand
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I've been Catholic for some years now, but when I first became Christian, I was Presbyterian. I enjoyed the particular church I attended, not because it was "Presbyterian" per se, but because of the quality of the people. In particular the pastor and his family were outstanding. I often mention the pastor in my posts on the forum in one way or another.
Unfortunately the Presbyterian Church of Queensland is under a lot of financial stress due to a court ruling as a result of what seemed to be unwise financial decisions by it's aged care business, Prescare. They're facing a $32 million dollar payout to clear the debt as a result, and some church property may have to be sold.
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I don't wish them any ill will. There is one Presbyterian pastor I've got no time for, but other than that I hope they can pull through without losing too many parish churches.
Unfortunately the Presbyterian Church of Queensland is under a lot of financial stress due to a court ruling as a result of what seemed to be unwise financial decisions by it's aged care business, Prescare. They're facing a $32 million dollar payout to clear the debt as a result, and some church property may have to be sold.
Queensland Supreme Court judgment says that Queensland Presbyterians liable for debts for its aged care operations - THE OTHER CHEEK
The Presbyterian Church of Queensland (PCQ) is liable for tens of millions in debt incurred by Prescare, its former aged care operator. This is the latest result in continuing litigation that has already placed the church denomination in receivership, and… Continue Reading →
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I don't wish them any ill will. There is one Presbyterian pastor I've got no time for, but other than that I hope they can pull through without losing too many parish churches.
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Inspired texts outside the protestant canon
- By Paleouss
- Controversial Christian Theology
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Greetings to you Valletta, hope and peace to you in our Lord Jesus Christ."The Origins of the Septuagint
The very first translation of the Hebrew Bible was made into Greek, probably as early as the third century BC. This, the so-called Septuagint translation of the Hebrew Bible into Greek, is traditionally dated to the reign of Ptolemy II Philadelphus of Egypt (285-246 BC).
It is commonly called the 'Septuagint' version (from the Latin for 'seventy') because according to the traditional account of its origin, preserved in the so-called Letter of Aristeas, it had seventy-two translators. This letter tells how King Ptolemy II commissioned the royal librarian, Demetrius of Phaleron, to collect by purchase or by copying all the books in the world. He wrote a letter to Eleazar, the high priest at Jerusalem, requesting six elders of each tribe, in total seventy-two men, of exemplary life and learned in the Torah, to translate it into Greek."
A Brief History of the Septuagint
"The Septuagint was the first translation made of the Hebrew Old Testament into Greek. It was begun over two hundred years before the birth of Jesus Christ. It was translated from a Hebrew Old Testament text-type that is older than the Masoretic text, from which most Old Testaments are translated today."
The Septuagint-The Apostles Bible - History of the Early Church
The apostles chose to quote from the Septuagint, not the proto-Masoretic text. Find out why in this brief history of the Septuagint.earlychurch.com
As to the Bible, the process of the Catholic Church choosing the 73 books of the Bible spanned centuries, and the canon was not established by the Catholic Church until the late 300s.
Thank you for your sourcing. You were correct in your post regarding the Septuagint, my apologies for my mistake. I suppose it is a good lesson for me to not rush around and take my time. I clearly was mistaking, for some reason, the NT when I wrote about the Septuagint. But again, thank you for you r sources.
Peace to you brother
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The Cave, the Phone, and Christmas
- By johnnypapa
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
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The Cave, the Phone, and Christmas
Many Saints have described prayer as an unseen tether connecting us to God. It seems that now, however, we’ve preferred to tether ourselves to a more distorted reflecting surface.
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