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Trying to contact Albion

He was an older fellow. . . Could be that he's gone home with the Lord. I don't know that but it's a possibility.
It’s possible, but I think he’s still posting on a different forum. I will not comment further because of the forum TOS.
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New Catechesis: Putting Parents Back at the Center of Faith Formation to Keep Kids Catholic

As young Catholics leave the Church, a family-focused solution gains momentum

One of the most pressing challenges facing the Catholic Church in the United States today is the steady rise in young Catholics who abandon the faith before they reach adulthood.

A new approach — one that places the family at the center of faith formation — is beginning to gain momentum as a possible solution to this crisis.

By re-catechizing parents and fostering connections between families committed to living their faith more deeply, parishes are witnessing dramatic results.

St. Mark Catholic Church in Fallston, Maryland, has experienced just such a transformation, according to Barbara Austin, director of evangelization at the parish.

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DHS official justifies immigration enforcement, cites St. Augustine’s ‘City of God’

Trump administration officials are vigorously defending the U.S. government's immigration enforcement efforts, including citing St. Augustine’s “City of God” to justify enforcement actions.

The “blameless poor” are different from lawbreakers when considering how to interpret Scripture to show charity toward immigrants, a spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) told CNA in response to concerns raised by U.S. Catholic bishops about immigration policy.

U.S. bishops said in the Nov. 12 special message: “We oppose the indiscriminate mass deportation of people” and cited Matthew 25, where Jesus Christ told his disciples: “Whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.”

Nathaniel Madden, principal deputy assistant secretary for communications at DHS, told CNA that when considering that verse, one should recognize “a key distinction” in how to demonstrate charity “when you’re talking about people who have knowingly broken laws to get somewhere” as opposed to “a much different situation than dealing with the blameless poor who are citizens of the same country.”

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Vatican stops use of titles for Mary

Isn't that about the same as saying the Bible is the word of God and thus the Bible is typologically Christ per John 1:1?
No, the Bible is the word of God (2 Tim 3:16),
while Jesus is the Word who is God (Jn 1:1, 14).

Keeping in mind the meaning of "word" in Greek philosophy. . .the First Cause and Great Intelligence behind the universe.
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Burials for little ones: How a New Orleans ministry helps families grieve

Sandy Schaetz still mourns the baby she never met.

“It was terrifying and traumatic,” she said of her miscarriage. “I was consoled after by the prayers of a deacon, but never named the baby or knew if it was a boy or girl.”

“It was not something I understood at the time and I only wish I had known more of what was happening,” she told CNA.

Now, Schaetz volunteers with Compassionate Burials for Indigent Babies (CBIB), an organization that buries babies who died, whether stillborn, miscarried, or aborted.

The group organizes everything for the funerals, which are held at a crypt at St. Patrick’s Cemetery in New Orleans.

A shoebox-sized casket lined with donated white fabric, usually from wedding dresses, is processed through the cemetery, with Knights of Columbus present as the honor guard. A volunteer musician plays at every funeral; a Catholic deacon presides at almost every burial.

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Federal judges block Texas from using its new US House map in the 2026 midterms


A federal court on Tuesday blocked Texas from using a redrawn U.S. House map that touched off a nationwide redistricting battle and is a major piece of President Donald Trump’s efforts to preserve a slim Republican majority ahead of the 2026 elections.
The ruling is a blow to Trump’s rush to create a more favorable political landscape for Republicans in next year’s midterms, at least for now. Texas filed an appeal Tuesday evening with the U.S. Supreme Court after Gov. Greg Abbott and other Republicans publicly defended the map, which was engineered to give Republicans five additional House seats.
In a 2-1 ruling, a panel of federal judges in El Paso sided with opponents who argued that Texas’ unusual summer redrawing of congressional districts would harm Black and Hispanic residents. The decision was authored by U.S. District Judge Jeffrey V. Brown, a Trump nominee from the president’s first term.
“To be sure, politics played a role in drawing the 2025 Map. But it was much more than just politics. Substantial evidence shows that Texas racially gerrymandered the 2025 Map,” the ruling states.
Very unfortunate for Abbott and Texas Republicans. And I guess the GOP overall.

Vatican says sainthood cause for American mom of 7 can move forward

To kids in the neighborhood east of Interstate 290 in Worcester, Massachusetts, Ruth Pakaluk was the mom who baked brownies and blondies for everyone after school and whose home was the starting point for games and fun.

“She was like the ‘block mom,’” her husband, Michael Pakaluk, an author and professor at the Busch School of Business at The Catholic University of America, told the National Catholic Register, CNA’s sister news partner.

To the Vatican’s Dicastery for the Causes of Saints, Ruth Pakaluk’s life merits further investigation to see whether someday the Church should declare her a saint.

The pro-life activist, Catholic convert, mother of seven, and Harvard graduate died of breast cancer in 1998 at 41. Now, the Diocese of Worcester, where she was living at the time of her death, has the approval of the Vatican’s saints’ dicastery to undertake a formal inquiry into her life, the next step along the path to a possible canonization.

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Rare Earth minerals deposit could end Chinese dominance

Rare earths are not actually that rare outside China. What is rare is developed commercial sources of them. The concerning thing here is that the Chinese understood this ten years ago while free market capitalism decided it was not worth pursuing until the numbers added up. So the obvious question is whether Chinese communism is superior to the current Western system of governance when it comes to strategic decision making?

Americans have been criticising Europeans for a similar lack of strategic awareness on matters of military and energy security and now have a told you so attitude as the EU scrambles to catch up with the modern world. But the rare earth monopoly that China currently enjoys could also have been anticipated in the same way.

So what are the new areas where America and its allies are blind to global trends but the Communists are already preparing. Do we have a plan or are we just going to let Wall Street bungle this one also as they did with Rare Earths?
Rare earth metals are not that rare but the isolation of them is difficult. It causes a lot of pollution. China was willing to take that on, as perhaps the most polluted and polluting country on the planet. Maybe we can do it better, now that prices are high, but maybe not.
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Peace plan inspired by Catholic EU founder proposed at European Parliament debate

A Vatican-based foundation has proposed a new peace initiative inspired by Venerable Robert Schuman, one of the European Union’s founding fathers, during a debate at the European Parliament.

The Clementy Schuman Legacy Foundation presented what it calls “Schuman Plan 2.0” — a blueprint for peace through economic cooperation and shared resources — at a Nov. 11 debate hosted by the European People’s Party Group, the largest political group in the European Parliament.

The proposal draws on the French politician and Catholic’s historic declaration of May 9, 1950, which stated: “Europe will be made through concrete achievements which first create a de facto solidarity.” That declaration laid the foundation for what would, many years later, become the European Union.

German member of the European Parliament Niels Geuking, a member of the European People’s Party and the Family Party, organized the debate. He told CNA that Europe has reached a point where it needs to “re-strengthen its political and social foundations, just as Robert Schuman did after the Second World War.”

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Abuse of consecrated women: ‘The first words should be: I believe you, you are not alone’

The challenge of addressing abuse within consecrated life — in all its dimensions: sexual, power, conscience, and also economic — was the focus of an international meeting organized by the Pontifical Commission for the Protection of Minors held at the Maffei Marescotti Palace in Rome.

Under the theme “Building Communities that Safeguard Dignity,” representatives of religious institutes from some 20 countries are gathering Nov. 17–19 to share experiences, examine structural shortcomings, and work on the preparation of the third annual report, which will involve 40 communities.

The commission’s president, Archbishop Thibault Verny, thanked the nearly 60 participants from various countries for their presence and emphasized that preventing abuse “is not a local task but a universal commitment of the Church.”

The third report on abuse, the archbishop clarified, “is not intended to add a burden” but rather to be “an opportunity” to promote “attention to the most vulnerable members” and strengthen “the quality of formation.” This journey “cannot be traveled alone,” Verny pointed out.

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The Reality of Free Will

Because I'm responding to your definition of free will here --> CoreyD said: "Free will allows one to choose to go against sinful desires, or to choose one course or the other... whether sinful - that is, prone to sin, or not."
I didn't understand you clearly at first.
You said:
I note that the statement that the free will you are describing allows one to choose to go against sinful desires, or with sinful desires
The "or with sinful desires" part was confusing.
So, you note that free will as I described, allows one to choose to go against sinful desires, despite having sinful desires.
Good., because that is free will as described in the Bible.
The question is, do you accept it?

It doesn't mean free will, the noun.
There is no free will - the noun.

Carnal minded is an adjective describing a type of will, <- will here is a noun. Are you saying the carnal will is a free will?
Carnal minded is an adjective describing a type of will?
Can you substantiate that with some kind of reference, because it sounds like something you came up with.

In response to the question "Is Carnal minded is an adjective describing a type of will?", AI responds this way...
To be carnally minded is not an adjective describing a type of will, but rather an adjective describing a state of mind or a mindset that is focused on fleshly, worldly, and selfish desires, which is contrary to God's will. The term "carnally minded" refers to having a mind governed by the flesh, which is characterized by selfishness, self-will, and a lack of submission to God's law. This mindset is described as being in enmity against God and incapable of submitting to His law. While the carnal mind influences decision-making and behavior, it is not a direct description of the will itself but rather a condition of the mind that opposes spiritual things and leads to death, in contrast to the spiritually minded, which leads to life and peace.

This harmonizes with the scriptures, which says...
Romans 8:1-13
1 Therefore there is now no condemnation at all for those who are in Christ Jesus. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life [i]in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. 3 For what the Law could not do, [j]weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of [k]sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk [l]according to the flesh but [m]according to the Spirit. 5 For those who are in accord with the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are in accord with the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For the mind [n]set on the flesh is death, but the mind [o]set on the Spirit is life and peace, 7 because the mind [p]set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, 8 and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.​
9 However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. 10 If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is [q]alive because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies [r]through His Spirit who dwells in you.​
12 So then, brothers and sisters, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh— 13 for if you are living in accord with the flesh, you are going to die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live.​

So, you are describing "a state of mind or a mindset that is focused on fleshly, worldly, and selfish desires", which is one's desires that they act on.... or can choose not to act on, as I described.
Free will allows one to choose not to act on sinful desires, nor have a mindset that is against God's will - setting one's mind on the flesh.
One can choose to set one's mind on the spirit, and keep walking by spirit, or allow oneself to be led by the spirit.

Romans 13:11-14
11 Do this, knowing the time, that it is already the hour for you to awaken from sleep; for now [a]salvation is nearer to us than when we first believed. 12 The night is almost gone, and the day is near. Therefore let’s rid ourselves of the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light. 13 Let’s [b]behave properly as in the day, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual promiscuity and debauchery, not in strife and jealousy. 14 But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh in regard to its lusts.​

This is a choice you and I have to make.
It is not a built in program that we automatically follow.
These involve action on our part... a doing - willingly; voluntarily; unforced; of one's own accord.... free will.

In case you will make the argument that the spirit dwelling in a person is what makes their will God's, and therefore their will is not free, I have a question for you...
Ephesians 4:30 reads... And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, in whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
How does one grieve the spirit? Isaiah 65:10

I understand that you're talking about a philosophical meaning of free will.
I am not.
This is a scriptural definition.

In the moral/immoral context, I'm talking about the scriptural meaning of a free will -> free from sin -> the positive layer of the neutral philosophical free will you're talking about. In reality the free will you're talking about isn't a will at all; it's the circumstance of choosing between one's own carnal will and God's will.
No, you are not describing any scriptural meaning of a free will, at all.

Will means desire in scripture. Our own will is descriptive of our own way according to our own desire, a noun. I quoted Isaiah 53:6 to express what I mean by our own way and further qualified it as NOT God's Way. It's right here -> All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. Our own way is our own will because we willed to go our own way.
theló: To will, to wish, to desire, to intend
Free will, is not a desire with free preceding it. Nor is it a will with free preceding it.

I understand that Jesus is talking about Satan's Character. On that we agree. His character is described as lusting, a murderer, and a liar not abiding in truth. Hence those descriptions show his own character/will/desire.
We all build character.
What we become is based on what we desire, and act on.
We can choose to become haughty, or we can choose to become humble.
It all depends on what we choose to do.

What a person is on the inside is not that person's desire.
How can James 1:13-15 be applied if one's character is the same as one's desire?

Are you making these up as you go along, so as to contradict what is said?
What reference can you provide to support your words formation character/will/desire?

The acting on one's own will, is free will? Before you said freedom to choose was a free will. That's two distinct meanings.
Freedom to choose -> Here “free will” = the ability to make a decision between alternatives. <- That’s about choice.
Acting on one’s own will -> Here “free will” = following one’s own desire without interference. <- That’s about desire.

Have you ever heard of the equivocation fallacy? Because the terms will and free keep morphing, and we end up reasoning upon an equivocation. I expect you to next claim the opposite -> NOT acting on one's own will/desire, is free will.
Yes. Being tired of explaining something that has been explained, and finding that the basis explanation is being misapplied, can cause this.
I'll be sure to say no more than I have said, once it's as simple as possible... starting now.
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Fewer high school girls want marriage, kids despite steady desire among boys: study

The share of 12th graders who say they plan to get married has declined precipitously among girls, and fewer of them are interested in having children, too, according to a new report from the Pew Research Center.

Data for the report was collected by the University of Michigan’s Monitoring the Future project, which is an ongoing study of the behaviors, attitudes and values of Americans from adolescence through adulthood. The study surveys more than 25,000 eighth, 10th, and 12th-grade students annually.


Pew researchers identified the massive shift in thinking among 12th-grade girls after comparing survey responses of 12th graders in 1993 to the responses of 12th graders in 2023.

The data show that overall, 67% of America’s 12th graders in 2023 say they will likely choose to get married someday, compared to 80% in 1993. Another 24% in 2023 weren’t sure whether they would choose to get married, an increase from the 16% who said the same in 1993. The share of students in the cohort who said they will not get married increased from 5% to 9% over the period.

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ICE: Illegal suspect in hammer attack on woman jogging in Texas park overstayed visa

Agency says Biden administration arrested, then released suspect

Federal authorities have placed an immigration detainer on a 17-year-old Mexican national accused of savagely attacking a woman with a hammer while she jogged in a Texas park.

The incident unfolded on Nov. 13 at approximately 5 p.m., when police in Plano, a suburb of Dallas, say they responded to reports of an assault in the 2300 block of Shiloh Road, according to a Plano Police Department news release. The female victim was jogging in Bob Woodruff Park when she was ambushed by a male assailant who struck her repeatedly with a hammer before fleeing the scene.


Police say the attacker tried to duct tape the woman, but she was able to fight him off.

Paramedics transported the victim to a nearby hospital, where she was treated for non-life-threatening injuries.

In an initial update on Nov. 14, the Plano Police Department identified the suspect as Sergio Noe De Nova Duarte, who had been living in Plano, and charged him with aggravated kidnapping bodily injury, a first-degree felony. He was booked into the Collin County jail.

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Nicki Minaj says religious freedom advocacy is about 'uniting humanity' at UN event

Singer Nicki Minaj defended religious freedom advocacy as an effort aimed at “uniting humanity” in remarks at an event profiling the threats to Christians in Nigeria.

Minaj gave the keynote address Tuesday at an event hosted by the United States Mission to the United Nations in New York City, titled “Combating Religious Violence and the Killing of Christians in Nigeria.”


“Music has taken me around the globe,” she said. “I have seen how people, no matter their language, culture or religion, come alive when they hear a song that touches their soul. Religious freedom means we all can sing our faith regardless of who we are, where we live and what we believe.”

“Today, faith is under attack in way too many places,” she lamented, detailing how, “In Nigeria, Christians are being targeted, driven from their homes and killed.”

“Churches have been burned, families have been torn apart, and entire communities live in fear constantly, simply because of how they pray. Sadly, this problem is not only a growing problem in Nigeria but also in so many other countries across the world, and it demands urgent action,” she added.

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OpenAI CEO Sam Altman among investors in embryo gene-editing venture

San Francisco-based startup Preventive has raised nearly $30 million from investors, including OpenAI CEO Sam Altman and Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong, to develop embryo gene-editing technology aimed at preventing hereditary diseases.

The company, founded as a public benefit corporation, stated its goal is “to determine through rigorous preclinical work whether preventive gene editing can be developed safely to spare families from severe disease.”


Preventive co-founder and gene-editing scientist Lucas Harrington pledged to “not advance this technology to clinical human use if safety cannot be established through extensive research.”

“We will not compromise safety standards to accelerate timelines,” Harrington wrote.

Creating gene-edited babies is currently illegal in the United States, the United Kingdom, and most countries. Preventive is considering conducting clinical work in the United Arab Emirates, where embryo editing is not prohibited, according to The Wall Street Journal.

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Can democratic Socialism save America?

There are certainly other "socialized" areas of American life, such as national and state defense, infrastructure maintenance, fire and police protection, public schools, and such.

I don't really understand why healthcare invokes such a particularly vicious Pavlovian response.
We've been conditioned to believe that somehow the market will fix the issues that it created, if we just let the insurance companies have free reign.

that and socialized health care will make us more European
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Obama care collapsing.....

What are the alternatives? Health savings accounts won't replace insurance, for a number of obvious reasons.

One approach would be to introduce some competition. Some way to make it easier to change insurance. Maybe have people who can afford it bear some of the cost of treatment. Not a deductible, because that doesn't depend upon the cost. It would have to be proportional to the cost.

But a lot of the cost is because there are lots of monopolies, particularly in drugs. Monopolies are almost always created and maintained by laws. We need a review of patent policies and other policies that tend to reduce competition. Unfortunately the party that normally claims to want competition is unlikely to be willing to support this kind of thing, because of large lobbying efforts. It's not all drug companies. Doctors have over history been able make anything other than treatments they like illegal.

This is a more general problem. I don't think we'll be able to make major improvements until congress is willing to do rational analysis rather than ideology, and stand up to lobbying. I don't see either of those things as likely at the moment.
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Trump live updates: President expands ‘narco’ boat strikes to Pacific Ocean as 8th boat is struck

The evidence I showed is not wrong.
"Fishermen" working working out of hi-speed cigarette boats? Smells fishy to me.

The claims of relatives and residents of the innocence of those killed running drugs seems a bit illogical to me.
In dozens of interviews in villages on Venezuela's breathtaking northeastern coast, from which some of the boats departed, residents and relatives said the dead men had indeed been running drugs but were not narco-terrorists or leaders of a cartel or gang.
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