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Aaron112 · Oct 21, 2025

childeye 2 said:
I don't have an answer other than God is sifting, refining.

Recognizing God Arranging all things is actually a good , scriptural, answer.....

Tom D · Oct 21, 2025

bèlla said:
Perfect 1950s Family Life Was All An Act

I realize that not every person growing up in the 50's had a "fake" family that looked perfect but wasn't. Enough people experienced the fakeness to make the 60's generation rebel against the rigid rules of how a family was supposed to look. This is a portion of my 6 part PBS television series, Making Sense Of The Sixties. Many of you have asked me to present more sections from the series. Please remember that I made it in 1989, more than 30 years ago. You can't look at the 1960s and what happened without looking at the life young people lead in the 1950s.

Awesome, you made this documentary?
Fakeness? I don't understand.

Chesterton · Oct 21, 2025

timewerx said:
Sounds like you're ridiculing me as well.

I'm not ridiculing you, but the start of your thread title, "AI and I", would make a good name for a twenty-first century reggae song.

FenderTL5 · Oct 21, 2025

“It won’t interfere with the current building. It won’t be. It’ll be near it but not touching it — and pays total respect to the existing building, which I’m the biggest fan of," Trump said during an executive order signing in July.

The "Current building", the "existing building," is being touched.
No matter how much he tries to walk it back, he lied.

Aaron112 · Oct 21, 2025

childeye 2 said:
Perhaps. I believe one's motives are going to be predetermined by one's image of God/god living in their heart.

God , or more often, a god.... like the prince of evil.....

Oompa Loompa · Oct 21, 2025

Pommer said:
A general strike would likely get the Congress’ and Senate’s attention…maybe March of 2026?

Who is going to strike? Most of the people protesting were retired white people.

Hentenza · Oct 21, 2025

JulieB67 said:
Yes, as I've stated when we take the bible as a whole we can see very clearly what will happen to the wicked. That verse just means that fire is unquenchable by our human standards. But as God states there will be neither root or branch left. They will consume away to ashes. That's what a fire does.

But that is not what it says and, frankly, you are ignoring scripture. The unquenchable fire was prepared for the devil and his minions for and the wicked are tossed in the same unquenchable fire to suffer the same fate. Are you arguing that the devil and his minions also are annihilated? That makes no scriptural sense when you consider Rev. 20:10. which plainly states that they will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

How about this verse.

“Then He will answer them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it for one of the least of these, you did not do it for Me, either.’ These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.””
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭25‬:‭45‬-‭46‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Matthew 25:45-46 Then He will answer them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it for one of the least of these, you did not do it for Me, either.’ These will go away into eternal punishment, but th | New American Standard Bible -

Then He will answer them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it for one of the least of these, you did not do it for Me, either.’ These will go away into eternal punishment, but th

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The punishment is eternal just as salvation is eternal. And, no, aionios in this context does not mean for a time or for a season.

JulieB67 said:
But believe what you will, we shall see....

I believe what scriptures teach.

BPPLEE · Oct 21, 2025

Pommer said:
Hey, we were due for an “upgrade”. We have to spend money on the ultra-powerful once in a while.

It's being paid for by private donations

Oompa Loompa · Oct 21, 2025

BCP1928 said:
It puts paid to "the Left hates America" crap.

Well, perhaps it was at least therapeutic for liberals who had nothing better to do.

Oompa Loompa · Oct 21, 2025

Chesterton said:
Shirley you know he was talking about the main house? Because in July the White House said they were going "to replace the current East Wing", and Trump yesterday posted "Completely separate from the White House itself, the East Wing is being fully modernized as part of this process, and will be more beautiful than ever when it is complete!"

But if you still think he's lying you can bump this thread when he destroys the White House and I'll apologize to you.

Of course he knows, and his name isn't Shirley. Lol.

BPPLEE · Oct 21, 2025

Colombia’s president muses about getting ‘rid of’ Trump in menacing interview as drug feud intensifies

Over the weekend, Trump threatened to close up the “killing fields” in Colombia and announced he was slashing US subsidies for the Latin American country.

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Colombia’s president muses about getting ‘rid of’ Trump in menacing interview as drug feud intensifies

Oompa Loompa · Oct 21, 2025

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:
There shouldn't be any work being done. Until the get done with the shutdown. There's no excuses not to pass Obama care. If Trump can waste money on other countries, that he wants to bail out.

Obama care has already been passed. So what are you talking about?

BPPLEE · Oct 21, 2025

BCP1928 said:
Nothing in there about stopping without help, which is what you implied.

Nothing in there about getting help either , implied or otherwise

BCP1928 · Oct 21, 2025

Oompa Loompa said:
Name something the protest accomplished?

It puts paid to "the Left hates America" crap.

Oompa Loompa · Oct 21, 2025

GoldenBoy89 said:
The no kings protests were great to see but if people are really serious we need a nationwide general strike now. Don’t let the momentum fizzle out or wait to see what happens in the midterms.

Name something the protest accomplished?

Amo2 · Oct 21, 2025

Valletta said:
It is sad that such blatant fabrications such as in that book, much born out of hatred, are still being circulated today. Many Catholics tirelessly preached and preserved the Word of God over the centuries, many were martyred because of it. Such false stories denigrate their sacrifices. Truly, if not for the Catholic Church, none of us would have the Bible today. At the time that the Catholic Church was choosing the books of the Bible, a process which spanned centuries, Latin was replacing Greek as the common tongue of the people in Europe. Since the vast majority of European Christians no longer spoke Greek but instead spoke Latin, in the late 300s the Catholic Church made the decision to translate the Bible into the common or "vulgar" language of the people, Latin, thus the Latin "Vulgate." There came a time in Europe where if you could read or write, that essentially meant you knew Latin. Remember too that for most of the history of Christianity, before the time of the printing press, when a Catholic named Gutenberg printed his first book(the Bible) most people were illiterate and individual ownership was rare. The time to hand-copy a Bible and the materials involved made ownership extremely expensive. Eventually Latin morphed into languages such as French, Spanish, and Italian, and many many translations of Biblical text were made by Catholics into many common languages.
Let's consider England. Venerable Bede, a Catholic monk, is perhaps best known for his translation in the 700s. Catholic King Alfred the Great had not finished his translation of Psalms before he died, that would have been in the 800s. Now a lot of Biblical texts by Catholics have been destroyed, remember Protestants in England seized Catholic monasteries and gave the land to wealthy Protestants and much that was Catholic was sold off or destroyed. But some do exist, you can find some of Alfred’s translations in a manuscript dated at around 1050. These are in the English of the Saxons: The Illustrated Psalms of Alfred the Great: The Old English Paris Psalter. Anyone doubting can see for themselves by following that link. When the Normans took over the English changed, the paraphrase of Orm is dated around 1150 and is an example of a Catholic translation into Middle English. When a Catholic named Gutenberg printed the first book on the printing press, of course the first book he printed was the Bible. It is known as the Gutenberg Bibles. Catholics who fled to France after the takeover of Protestantism in England were able to publish an English version of the Bible and efforts, at great peril, were made by Catholics to get an English version of that Bible, the Douay-Rheims, to the people of England. The Rheims New Testament was published in the year 1582, and the entire Bible was finished in 1609. The Protestant King James Bible, based much upon Catholic work, was published in 1611.
Now the Church has always considered the Bible the book of the Church, and has stated that the Bible is the Word of God, and thus is very particular about attempts to alter the Bible. The Catholic Church maintains that no one should add or subtract from the Bible. During the Protestant rebellion there was a lot of animosity, and individuals came up with their own Bible versions, not just their own translations, but included statements against the Catholic faith, a faith handed down from Jesus through the Apostles. This became a serious problem that the Church needed to address. The Church wisely came up with various approved lists of books and Bibles that are in compliance with Catholic teaching and in the case of Bibles are accurate translations. Today the Catholic Church employees scholars from multiple religions to made sure translations are accurate.

Actually, there were several different sources cited, not just a book, and there are many more that could be. You are correct about public education being very poor during the days of Roman Catholic spiritual and temporal rule. It was in fact a desire by many people to have and read the scriptures that created a desire to be able to read, and ultimately lead to far greater sources of education for average citizens of nations. You seem to think that some Catholics at some times, translating the scriptures for some people, negates the many times Catholic religious and political authorities forbade the translation of scripture into the vernacular. Not to mention even owning or reading such scriptures without their permission. With severe penalties even up to death by burning for doing so. All well documented histories which many such as yourself choose to ignore and downplay, while you share those lesser histories which included translating the scriptures before the church changed its policy, and or approving translations in languages that were basically dead to the average person. Pretending this version of history is true, while the history of forbidding the scriptures is false.

This of course is beside the fact that a great many people who wanted the scriptures to be published in the vernacular, and many more who wanted them in it as well, were Roman Catholics. Who were later branded as heretics for desiring such, and later still Protestants, for protesting this and other acts their leaders mandated upon all with or without their consent or agreement. As though our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ or His Apostles ever exemplified or called for such authoritarian control over the faithful by a united professed clergy and royalty.

There is a lot more to say about the histories you shared above, the details which will certainly add more pertinent information to the subject.

childeye 2 · Oct 21, 2025

Aaron112 said:
i.e. tares like rules that protect their dark and wrong motives ?

Perhaps. I believe one's motives are going to be predetermined by one's image of God/god living in their heart.

Aaron112 said:
Yet want to be heard/ 'found'/ 'popular'/ 'accepted'/ 'listened to' / 'attention' ........ a real mix of mostly or all shellfish motives/intents/purposes easy to hide online ......
When tares are in power, in control, what becomes of the average 'normal' person who doesn't know this ?

I don't have an answer other than God is sifting, refining.

BCP1928 · Oct 21, 2025

BPPLEE said:
"Perhaps Americans should stop taking illegal drugs. It's not as if the cartels were making them - they are seeking them out and paying good money."
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Nothing in there about stopping without help, which is what you implied.

Lukaris · Oct 21, 2025

I haven’t read every post as the thread is very long but what about what Jesus Christ warns ( 3 times) of in Mark 9:42-48? It is unquenchable fire & the worm does not die. This Lord is 3 times referring back to a single statement from the prophet Isaiah ( Isaiah 66:24). Most Christians have understood this to be a serious warning of everlasting anguish for the condemned.

This seems clearly in line with what would be understood of those redeemed vs those condemned in the universal resurrection like in John 5:22-30, Matthew 25:31-46 etc. I can’t see how any believing Christian in this life doesn’t feel fear & sadness over the condemnation the Lord warns us of.

rockytopva · Oct 21, 2025

Anglerfish can be found at a depth of 4,500 meters (15,000') and use a glowing lure to attract prey... Surprisingly these creatures have eyes in their heads as well.

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BCP1928 · Oct 21, 2025

The whole affair was, I imagine, frightening to the Conservatives. Violence and looting that they knew how to respond to, were hoping for, did not materialize. The number of demonstrators and especially their discipline was awesome.

Chesterton · Oct 21, 2025

Bad news: that costs a lot of money.

BPPLEE · Oct 21, 2025

BCP1928 said:
Nor is it the view of anyone in this forum.

"Perhaps Americans should stop taking illegal drugs. It's not as if the cartels were making them - they are seeking them out and paying good money."
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