FenderTL5 said:

Indeed, I'm going to guess that those who are gaming the system will be largely uneffected. Those who lose coverages will more likely be those who lack the resources or wherewithal to navigate all of the additional red tape.

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fhansen said:

Yes, just not truth in reality. That's the only problem.

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fhansen said:

Well, it does matter that you choose to ignore some scripture while picking other parts that might support your author of sin God, because whoever meets that God can't count on heaven being any better than hell anyway.

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timf said:

Joh 18:38 Pilate saith unto him, What is truth? And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find in him no fault at all.

Pilate's rather blasé inquiry showed a sort f world weary disregard for philosophical musings. What he failed to perceive was that the rhetorical question was asked of he who is truth.

The bible calls four thugs truth, God the Father,God the Son,, God the Holy Spirit, and the word of God. One might see truth as that which is absolute, unchangeable and defines reality. There can be a difference between something that is true and truth.itself.

I once made a comment is a social setting that all psychology was wrong. When challenged to support my assertion, I said that no psychological theory of human behavior included the concept of sin. Thus not remedy drawn from such an inadequate understanding of human behavior could be anything but random in its efficacy. While my statement could see as true, to consider truth, one has to go to the bible.

. Rom_3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

More than one denomination falls short of truth. However, beyond doctrinal inaccuracies, perhaps are greater failings;

1. Failing to help each member become more like Jesus.
2. Administered as an organizational system whose mechanical nature impedes relationships.
3. Failing to show how to disentangle from the world and the flesh.
4. Presenting Christianity as a Sunday morning activity.

Someone recently intimated a dissatisfaction with the error of a particular denomination. Since we all contribute our own errors, we might have some compassion for a weaker brother, particularly if we are the weaker brother.

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Hans Blaster said:

No one is claiming that the coordinated 2000+ protests against Trump today are not coordinated and organized. The primary organizer is a group called "50501" (fifty-fifty-one) spun up recently and "Indivisible" which has been around and challenging Trump for 8 years. The planning has been going on since Trump announced his birthday parade.

I wouldn't even respond to this part in this thread, but the timing of this assassination seem quite clearly intended to intimidate participants in the "No Kings" protests, in addition to disrupting the partisan control of the MN legislature.

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ViaCrucis said:

The more I've studied Christology, the more I've realized that most of what is confessed positively historically in Christianity is the result of rejecting other ideas because of major problems with those other ideas. If we look, for example, at the confession put forward at Chalcedon it may look, at first glance, like it is trying to define "mechanically" how Jesus is God and man; but I think a closer look, especially placed in historical context, shows that it's far less about rigorously defining the Incarnation as it is rigorously rejecting certain ideas. The language is apophatic rather than cataphatic. The chief concern at Chalcedon was the views being put forward by Eutyches, whose radical anti-Nestorianism led him to saying that the union of Divine and humanity in Jesus was so great that, effectively, there is nothing human in Jesus left at all--effectively in Eutychian Christology Jesus was no longer one of us, a human being; but had a different kind of humanity, one that was like "a drop of vinegar in the ocean" (something Eutyches himself said). So Chalcedon was chiefly interested in rejecting Eutychianism, and so the point of the language was to affirm Jesus as really human, just like you and me (but without sin); so Jesus is of the same Essence as the Father (because He is God the Son) but Jesus is also of the same Essence as you and me, because He is fully and completely and really human.

It becomes far less about trying to narrowly define God, or narrowly squeeze Jesus and the mechanics of the Incarnation into a very small box; and it is much more about drawing lines in the sand where we cannot cross. We will never understand and know the deep Mystery of the Incarnation, or how the Incarnation "works"; that's not for us--but the meaning of the Incarnation, and what we say about it, cannot in some way actually reject it.

Jesus is God and man. He is God because He is the Word and Son of the Father. He is man because He's actually one of us, He did not merely appear as a man, but was (and is) a man. He had a human body, a human soul, a human mind, a human will, He had human emotions, He had human thoughts, He was one of us. And that isn't just some matter that high-falutin' smarty-pants philosophers and seminarian-trained theologians get to argue over while having a pint at a fancy restaurant or spilling ink on parchment; it's the sort of stuff that matters deep into the heart of Christian confession. Jesus is one of us, God became one of us, and it is His taking upon Himself what we are, that He saves us. That is Gospel stuff, this is blue-collar Christianity.

-CryptoLutheran

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Clare73 said:

Our "own sinlessness" is the righteousness of Christ imputed to us (Ro 3:21-22, 4:22-25, 2 Co 5:21).
We are by (fallen) nature objects of wrath (Eph 2:3). . .we are born with our nature

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Clare73 said:

God 101:

Sin in the world does not make God the author of sin.

God's free will to Adam does not make God the author of Adam's sin.

Study Ro 9:22-23, 11:32.

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Postvieww said:

You post a liberal analysis and ask me if I am sure??

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Always in His Presence said:

Obviously you follow ... the far right

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Always in His Presence said:

How does a group organize, advertise, develop signs and organizers nation wide in less than two weeks?

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Desk trauma said:

When will the dems stop with their dangerous rhetoric ?

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Hans Blaster said:

State Rep. Hortman and her husband died from the shooting.

Minnesota politician shot and killed, another injured in "targeted political violence"

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Icyspark said:

Hi Clare73,

A covenant is simply an agreement. It was the agreement that was faulty, not what was agreed upon. "God found fault with the people ... because they did not remain faithful to [the] covenant." God didn't find fault with His perfect law.

Christ rested on the Sabbath and He never informed anyone that this singular aspect of His perfect law was a problem that needed to end. Nope. He never said it,

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Desk trauma said:

When will the dems stop with their dangerous rhetoric ?

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JosephZ said:

The treat from the far-right is real.


‘Shoot a couple, the rest will go home’: Far-right groups are sharing scary messages ahead of ‘No Kings’ protests

Far-right groups are sharing violent messages ahead of the “No Kings” protests this weekend to coincide with President Donald Trump’s military birthday parade.

Accounts associated with extremist groups are also sharing detailed information about protest organizers, including names and where they work, The Wall Street Journal reports.

Protests in more than 2,000 cities are scheduled to take place Saturday.

“Shoot a couple, the rest will go home,” one meme circulating on a Proud Boys Telegram channel said.

Another meme posted in the channel depicted four armed men. “HANG THE TRAITORS, EXPEL THE INVADERS,” it said.

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JosephZ said:

The treat from the far-right is real.


‘Shoot a couple, the rest will go home’: Far-right groups are sharing scary messages ahead of ‘No Kings’ protests

Far-right groups are sharing violent messages ahead of the “No Kings” protests this weekend to coincide with President Donald Trump’s military birthday parade.

Accounts associated with extremist groups are also sharing detailed information about protest organizers, including names and where they work, The Wall Street Journal reports.

Protests in more than 2,000 cities are scheduled to take place Saturday.

“Shoot a couple, the rest will go home,” one meme circulating on a Proud Boys Telegram channel said.

Another meme posted in the channel depicted four armed men. “HANG THE TRAITORS, EXPEL THE INVADERS,” it said.

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RDKirk said:

Well, people have long been expected not to resist when someone beating on the door claim to be the police.

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Two MN Dem Pols + Spouses Shot in Targeted Shooting

Rep. Melissa Hortman, Sen. John Hoffman shot in 'targeted' shootings: Sources Two Minnesota lawmakers and their spouses were shot by someone impersonating a police officer, sources confirmed to FOX 9. Sen. John Hoffman and Rep. Melissa Hortman, as well as their spouses, were shot in the...

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