The reciprocal of Ho at 71 is 13.8 BLY's. Distance. The example of the reciprocal of 30 Miles per hour is 2 minutes per MILE. SPEED. All of you break the reciprocal rule that you MUST retain the original units. So 13.8 billion years is INVALID as the Ho reciprocal. The reciprocal of Ho must be stated as 13.8 billion light years. DISTANCE.

Apple Sky said:

But who does ?

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These guys do. Quantas Antarctica Charters. The flights depart from several places in Australia, pass over the south pole, and return to the same location as take-off. And as mentioned previously, there are also tours that land at the south pole base.

Case closed. Next!

Apple Sky said:

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You can fly over Antarctica,

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There you go then.
You say people can't fly over Antarctica, then post an article saying that it's possible.

Apple Sky said:

but it's not common for regular airlines

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Not common does not mean "impossible."

Apple Sky said:

It's not a simple matter of illegality

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This Artificial Intelligence isn't very intelligent, is it?

If it were illegal, I doubt anyone would do it, never mind sell flights to others.
Anyone who did do it would be arrested.

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• Lack of infrastructure:
  Antarctica has very limited infrastructure, with virtually no commercial airports or refueling stops available for long-haul flights.

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"Virtually no", does not mean "none".

David Lamb said:

Well, the post you were replying to said:

"Is this the equivalence of saying 93 million miles equals one astronomical unit?"

Surely if the sun is 93 million miles from the earth, and you multiply 93 million by 1760, you get the number of yards in an Astronomical Unit. (I should say that I am no scientist, so please bear with me if I am spouting rubbish by saying that )

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One thing I am driving at is that, so far, your statements are accurate, but as definitions they are entirely circular. I'm seeking to lead you towards one of the points I think @Hans Blaster was making.

BobRyan said:

In fact every time we see the NT saints in a weekly worship service it is always Sabbath

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These were Jewish worship services, not Christian worship services. Paul went to the synagogues on the Sabbath because that is where he could speak to both large numbers of Jews and to the circumcised Gentile converts to Judaism. Acts 13:43

Christians worshiped on the first day of the week, the Lord's day. Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2, Revelation 1:10

Numbers 29:35 On the eighth day you will hold a public assembly: you shall do no heavy work.

The eighth day (Sunday, the first day of the week) is the day the Christians have publicly worshiped God for 2000 years.

Hazelelponi said:

Already have along with posting the legal analysis from Yale University law Professor, Jed Rubenfeld (Constitutional and Criminal law) he said Trump has a lot of law behind him

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I'm sure we could find some pros and cons as regards the fine details of international law to bat back and forth. But I'm no legal eagle. Do I'm interested in your personal, moral opinion on extra judicial killings.

Hans Blaster said:

I am questioning your claims, not "everything".

We are talking a generation back at least.

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Yes thats right. A complete change in the public square from acceptance and even promotion of God and Christian values. To anti God, Christ and Christian values to whoevers gods and values manages to be pushed. All fighting in the market place. Even to the point of taking out those who disagree.

Certainly not this neutral public square where all beliefs are welcome that was proclaimed as the best way to order society.

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Sure it is, sure it is.

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Are you saying the verse tells Christians to take up arms against others.

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Not "secularized". Religion.

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I am talking about belief. The beliefs behind political ideology for example. Do you think thats based in objective fact and reality. They are all beliefs about how we should order society. Thus making them also moral which is also not something we can objectively determine.

So when God or Christian meaning and morality is taken out do you think that this void just remains empty. That its not replaced with another ideological belief and morality. I gave you a real life example.

At present we have two conflicting beliefs and morals on say marriage. They conflict with each other even to the point where people and even the State will have to make a determination as to which ideology they stand with. The State use to align with Christian beliefs on this. Now they align with secular ideology that allows the conflicting belief to exist at the same time in law and policy.

So naturally they are competing and conflicting in the market place. Even to the point of people being legally charged or cancelled for not holding the right belief on this. Now times that by all issues today like abortion, Trans, DEI, immigration ect. There are competing beliefs that are now fighting in the streets.

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This is your core claim. Don't repeat it. Demonstrate it.

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Already did in this post.

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So maybe it isn't just one side then?

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Never said it was one side.

Hans Blaster said:

The thread is about the modern US and US history in general. It is not about the entire history of the West dating back to Athens.

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This is silly. How can you know what todays US is like if you don't compare it to its history. Its history is what makes it what it is today lol. It did not just pop into existence out of nowhere.

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It was more dodge and avoid responsibility. And there are so many orgs just like that "first one".

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There you go, your belief is coming out. Your cynnical of Christianity. You only see the negative. All along even when abuses were happening this did not define Christs church. We have ample examples of the very best of humans within the church. But cynnics ignore all that.

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There was no notable departures from the church at the time, nor from any of the other churches with the same problems.

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You don't know the church. You are outside the church looking in. Yet you seem to know everything about them.

Hans Blaster said:

Oh, Steve, it is not Christians I have no tolerance for. It is bad arguments. Bad analysis. Irrelevant claims. These things you post in spades.

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No I think its Christians perse lol by the obvious bias you have in only seeing bad and always looking for it. You just proved that above. I don't think you could see the good of Christianity if it was starring you in the face. Which it is but you never notice it or wich to say it. Any reasonable person would see that there are many examples of Christlike Christians who have changed the world.

But then of course you would even argue that this was not God or Christ but human imagination and an evolutionary belief that is designed to make us believe such things for the sake of survival and cooperation. Is that about right.

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Is that last sentence supposed to mean something? I can't make heads nor tails of it.

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Yes. That even 'No religions' or any human or society of humans will have their own set of beliefs about how society and the world should be ordered. You don't have to be an organised religion to impose an ideological belief as the basis for how society and the world should be ordered metaphysically and morally. Its part of the fabric of being human and reality itself.

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It really didn't help the church, now did it? (no need to answer, let's get back to the topic)

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No it damaged it a lot. But heres the thing. The church is certainly capable of being like Christ and have done it before and can do it again. But the world cannot because it relies on itself which we know will always decend into evil as by nature humans are fallen creatures.

What I am saying is that we had the churches turn and they messed up and were rejected. Now we have had maybe a few generations of the secular public square and its messing up just as bad if not worse.

So now everyone is tarred and cannot be trusted. Both systems have failed. So now all is left is that the true church of Christ that has always been there to shine. They have been exposed like the secularist so now have to prove themselves. Reprove their faith and get back to the basics and truth. This is all that is left. If we look at the secularist or no religion world and its future. Its all doom and gloom no matter which way you look at it.

Bringing this back to the OP I think this is partly why there is division, conflicts, hate, and violence. Because everyone is divided about how we should order the world because we have lost all moral compass in rejecting God and Christ. Even if it was not Christianity. A society of people and a nation needs a unified, belief, mind and spirit otherwise in the end its always going to be divided and conflicted.

Hans Blaster said:

Again, you have mischaracterized "progressives" as the extreme of the left.

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Is the Left more progressive ie more likely to support progressive ideas and values from the tradition or conservative ie pro abortion, SSM, LGBTIQ+ ideas and beliefs, green policiies. Generally open to modernising and alternative ideas and beliefs.

In fact would support the equality of all religions and beliefs. This is related to the fact they also support the inclusion and diversity of beliefs. But more importantly Equity. Which is the lifting up of minorities even by bringing down the rest of the system to accommodate this.

This is the aspect of liberty or liberation of the disadvantaged culturally that flows from Marxism to cultural Marxism which forms the basis for uprisings and revolutions against the system.

Hans Blaster said:

How does that work when the established order is a liberal one?

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Lol its never liberal enough for liberalism. Besides do you really think the system is as liberal or liberated as you think. We have never been more bound up in regulations, policies and laws restricting everything and even our private and social lives now.

This is the problem. That liberalism is self defeating as it has to allow just about everything in the market place. Its a mindfield of do's and don'ts even down to not saying certain words or you could lose your livihood or even be killed now it seems. Give me a break.

The idea of Christ is a trigger today and yet He said He would give true freedom. People reject the very thing that they are looking for because they are told 1,000s of lies about what is freedom when its not. Then they get angry when they realise.

Hans Blaster said:

I don't care about your discourse about "marxism". This is ridiculously far from the topic of the thread.

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Hum, thats you opinion and that you say you don't care about my opinion only supports what I am saying.

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David Lamb said:

Yet you posted an AI article saying: "You can fly over Antarctica, but it's not common for regular airlines due to a lack of infrastructure like landing strips and refuelling stations, as well as significant logistical challenges." (my emphasis)

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But who does ?

Apple Sky said:

I am still adamant that Antarctica circumferences the earth & that fights to Antarctic can only fly so far in.

Here on this video you'll see that on November 28th 1979 air New Zealand flight 901 was miss directed where it crashed killing all 200 passengers.
And as you'll notice this plane was scheduled to fly only so far in before returning to New Zealand.

What I'm summarizing is that this plane flew to far in and hit the edges of the domed firmament.

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Yet you posted an AI article saying: "You can fly over Antarctica, but it's not common for regular airlines due to a lack of infrastructure like landing strips and refuelling stations, as well as significant logistical challenges." (my emphasis)

Ophiolite said:

Only strange if you fail to take into account the post it was replying to. Thus, I ask you now, what are yards?

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Well, the post you were replying to said:

"Is this the equivalence of saying 93 million miles equals one astronomical unit?"

Surely if the sun is 93 million miles from the earth, and you multiply 93 million by 1760, you get the number of yards in an Astronomical Unit. (I should say that I am no scientist, so please bear with me if I am spouting rubbish by saying that )

Dan Perez said:

Since John wrote this book. , this means. John was talking to Jews and NOT to GENTILES is what it means !!

And in. James 1:1 here he wrote to the 12 tribes SCATTERED ABROAD. and we see that the HOLY SPIRIT. had men

write to different people to. Jews and GENTILES !!

What say you. ??

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John addressed the book of John to the world, you see that at the start, just like you mention James and where he addresses wo he is writing to at the start, right ?

For anyone reading, and this is fairly straight forward, but just in case, i highlighted some, and I left separate other below..


John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; AND THE LIFE WS THE LIGHT OF MEN.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

John 1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

John 1:8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

John 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

GoldenBoy89 said:

Yeah and can you even imagine Trump being second in command to anyone? He wouldn’t allow it for one second.

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He might agree with it if he can recreate the montreal screwjob or the fingerpoke of doom live on stage during the swearing in ceremony. Remember, he's a huge fan of pro wrestling.

David Lamb said:

So you have changed from saying that flying over the Antarctic is impossible (you wrote: "but they can not fly all the the way across Antarctica", and are now saying that it is possible but dangerous? I don't think that airlines would be allowed to fly passengers over the Antarctic if it were too dangerous to do so, with all the current emphasis on health and safety!

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I am still adamant that Antarctica circumferences the earth & that fights to Antarctic can only fly so far in.

Here on this video you'll see that on November 28th 1979 air New Zealand flight 901 was miss directed where it crashed killing all 200 passengers.
And as you'll notice this plane was scheduled to fly only so far in before returning to New Zealand.

What I'm summarizing is that this plane flew to far in and hit the edges of the domed firmament.

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Soyeong said:

It's not speaking to anyone in particular, but rather it is simply equating delighting in doing the will of God with obeying His commands. Instructions for how to be a doer of God's character traits can't be set aside without first setting God aside.

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With offering the body.

I left a certain order below with some separations, but I can explain every detail I did post a whole detailed thread on this.



Hebrews 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

Hebrews 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.


Psalm 40:6 Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required.
7 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,
8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.
9 I have preached righteousness in the great congregation: lo, I have not refrained my lips, O Lord, thou knowest.
10 I have not hid thy righteousness within my heart; I have declared thy faithfulness and thy salvation: I have not concealed thy lovingkindness and thy truth from the great congregation.





Isaiah 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:
2 And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;
3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the Lord: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:
4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth: with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.
5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

RandyPNW said:

My own belief, though highly speculative, is that when Jesus comes again to earth, he will bring his glorified Church with him. However, being that we will have become immortals we may go back and forth dimensionally from the earthly plane to the heavenly plane, just like the angels.

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It seems to me once everyone becomes immortal, it will be time for the judgment.

John 5:28-29 Do not be amazed at this, because the hour is coming in which all who are in the tombs will hear his voice 29 and will come out, those who have done good deeds to the resurrection of life, but those who have done wicked deeds to the resurrection of condemnation.

RandyPNW said:

But for a thousand years there will still be mortals on earth, and nations, who will fulfill the climax of world history. There will be Christian nations, Israel included, as well as nations not so disposed to Christianity and yet submissive to it. The Devil will be bound at this time. It will be a time of fulfilling the promises God made to Abraham, to have Israel in Abraham's faith and to have many nations sharing in Abraham's faith--all these Christian nations.

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I don't think this "thousand years" is a literal one thousand years.

Revelation 20:4-6 Then I saw thrones; those who sat on them were entrusted with judgment. I also saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, and who had not worshiped the beast or its image nor had accepted its mark on their foreheads or hands. They came to life and they reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were over.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over these; they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for [the] thousand years.

The first resurrection was about 33 AD. There can only be one first resurrection.

Matthew 27:51-53 And behold, the veil of the sanctuary was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth quaked, rocks were split, 52 tombs were opened, and the bodies of many saints who had fallen asleep were raised. 53 And coming forth from their tombs after his resurrection, they entered the holy city and appeared to many.

I think the "thousand years" symbolizes the time period between Jesus' resurrection and his second coming.

RandyPNW said:

As for those of us who are transformed into immortals we may be in heaven for this thousand years, doing what the angels are doing now, monitoring, managing, and judging. Again, this is purely my speculation. If you have any ideas, I've love to hear them?

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Dan Perez said:

And in Luke 16:23 a Jew and his SOUL. is in. HELL. // HADES. , and BODY in. the GRAVE and his SOUL goes. BACK. to God

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Funny that you take Luke 16:23 as if it is proof. When you start reading Luke, you will see that in chapter 15 the lord Jezus starts to talk in parables.
First the parable in vs 4 about the man who lost his sheep, then the parable in vs 8 about the woman who lost a piece of silver. So it's not one parable, but more parables. In vs 11 about the man who had two sons, in chapter 16 in vs one He says: "And he said also unto his disciples, There was a certain rich man..." so He continues to speak in parables chapter 16.

Sometimes AI can learn us a thing or two:

No, a parable should not be taken literally because its purpose is to illustrate a moral or spiritual lesson through a story, not to be a factual account. A parable uses a fictional, relatable scenario to make a deeper point, and the details of the story are not meant to be taken as literal truths, such as Jesus not literally being a rock or a door, as noted in The Bible Speaks to You.

• Parables are allegorical stories:
  They use symbolic language and characters to convey a message. For example, a parable about a sower scattering seeds is not about farming but about how different people receive different messages.
  
  
• Focus on the message:
  The core of a parable is the principle or spiritual truth it aims to teach, not the plot. The details are just a tool to help the listener understand that message.
  
  
• Literal interpretation misses the point:
  Taking the story literally would mean missing the whole point. For instance, the parable of the talents is not about literal money but about using one's abilities and resources wisely.
  
  
• Context is key:
  Understanding the context in which a parable was told is essential to grasp its intended meaning. The story is a means to an end, and that end is the lesson being communicated.

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Dan Perez said:

And my answer is in Gal 6:15

# 1 For. in Christ. Jesus , NEITHER CIRCUMCISION. , meaning Jew is OF ANY FORCE.

# 2. Nor UNCIRCUMCIOSION. , meaning GENTILES

# 3 But a NEW CREATION. , meaning the BODY of Christ !!

And Israel and JUDAH will come after the BODY OF CHRIST is CAUGHT UP TO MEET CHRIST in. the air in

2 THESS 4:13 - 17. and there are verses . maybe next time !!

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The new creation is all gathered together in one, or it is not new, or gathered.



Ephesians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, TO THE SAINTS WHICH ARE AT EPHESUS, AND TO THE FAITHFUL IN CHRIST JESUS:
2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
8 Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence;
9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
10 That IN THE DISPENSATION OF THE FULNESS OF TIME HE MIGHT GATHER TOGETHEER IN ONE ALL THINGS IN CHRIST, both which are in heaven, and WHICH ARE ON EARTH, EVEN IN HIM:
11 IN WHOM ALSO WE HAVE OBTAINED AN INHERITENCE, being PREDESTINATED according to THE POURPSOE OF HIM who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.

Galatians 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 FOR THEY ARE ALL THE CHILDEN OF GOD BY FAITH IN CHRIST JESUS.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: FOR THEY ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, AND HEIRS ACCORDNG TO THE PROMISE.




Dan Perez: And my answer is in Gal 6:15


The answer is first in 2 Corinthians 5, we judge that if one died for ALL, then ALL were dead.

Now they do not live unto themselves, but UNTO HIM that died for them and rose again. From then on we do not KNOW ANYONE after the flesh. ( who LIVE UNTO THEMSELVES.)

IF ANY MAN is in Christ, he is a new creature, old is PASSED AWAY.

All things for all are now OF GOD, who has RECONCILED US UNTO HIMSELF.

SEE IT DAN PEREZ, or ALL, that God was in Christ, RECONCILING THE WORLD UNTO HIMSELF, AND THIS TOWARDS THE WORLD, not imputing their trespasses unto them, committing unto us the WORD OF RECONCILIATION.

NOW LIN K YOUR PASSGE DAN PEREZ, OF NEITHER CIRCUMCISION NOR CIRCUMCISION MEANING ANYTHING ANY LONGER, BUT A NEW CREATURE. ( THAT NEW CREATURE IS THE ORLD FRECONCILED UNTO HMSELF, AND THEM NO LONGER LIVING UNTO THEMSELVES, TO ALL.)




2 Corinthians 5:14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Galatians 6:13 For neither they themselves who are circumcised keep the law; but desire to have you circumcised, that they may glory in your flesh.
14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.
15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.

Warden_of_the_Storm said:

That's not context, though. Context is who took the photo, when they took the photo, what the person taking the photo's qualifications are and what they actually know about the jar itself.

Besides, doing my own little research spree (which was literally five minutes of Googling the phrase "carving jars from alabaster" turned up this website page: Hand Carving Process For Egyptian Alabaster, which simply (if not wholly visually) describes the process of how Egyptian Alabaster is shaped and form by modern artisans to make jars out of alabaster as they would thousands of years ago. And in fact, this process is expanded upon here, Crafting Timeless Beauty: The Art of Carving Egyptian Alabaster, which this time has a video, which I sadly can't link below (the actual process beings at about the 2 minute mark) and we see the exact process of how it's done in a traditional, but clearly complex and skilled manner.

But the point I'm making is that we know what processes the ancient Egyptians used, because there are still people using those same processes! We know how they did it, but you just refuse to accept that as evidence for anything. And your claims of the ancients using much more advanced technology than you claim they had just poos all over these people's hard work.

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He doesn't understand context.
He doesn't understand peer review.
He doesn't understand the difference between the logical fallacy of Argument from Authority and the legitimate use of authoritative views.
He doesn't understand the difference between accuracy and precision.
He doesn't understand the difference between speculation and hypothesis.
He doesn't understand that critical thinking must first be applied to ones own views.

All of which is a great pity, since he is clearly intelligent, enthusiastic and committed; ideal traits for an investigative homo sapiens.

David Lamb said:

What a strange question! A measurement of length, 1760 yards.

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Only strange if you fail to take into account the post it was replying to. Thus, I ask you now, what are yards?

How would she feel if you had the same persoective about your ex?

Carl Emerson said:

However those in Christ are no longer subject to the Curse of the Law or judged by it. His presence within brings superior conviction on all matters in life including matters with no mention in the Law. This is to assist progressive sanctification as we are being drawn by the Spirit to become more Christ-like in this life.

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It is not just superior conviction it is conviction itself, a good conscience.

Sanctification is not a progression, it is purification of the heart, by faith.

We do not become Christ like, we put on Christ, have Him dwell in our heart.

Also Christ learned obedience by the things which He suffered, we learn too.



I left the order of the scriptures below, as I spoke, and separated the last part, so anyone can notice how that works too.




Hebrews 9:13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, SANCTIFIETH TO THE PURIFYING of the flesh:
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, PURGE YOUR CONSCIENC from dead works to serve the living God?
15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

Acts 15:9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

Romans 13:12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
13 Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.
14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.




Hebrews 5:7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;
8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
10 Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.

Romans 5:1 THEREFORE BEING JUSTIFIED BY FAITH, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
4 And patience, experience; and experience, hope:
5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

James 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.
4 But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

stevevw said:

And if you checked you would have known that this is the 3rd time I have linked those and I had already said where they were from. In fact didn't I actually state that it was from under the Stepped pyramid.

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That's not context, though. Context is who took the photo, when they took the photo, what the person taking the photo's qualifications are and what they actually know about the jar itself.

Besides, doing my own little research spree (which was literally five minutes of Googling the phrase "carving jars from alabaster" turned up this website page: Hand Carving Process For Egyptian Alabaster, which simply (if not wholly visually) describes the process of how Egyptian Alabaster is shaped and form by modern artisans to make jars out of alabaster as they would thousands of years ago. And in fact, this process is expanded upon here, Crafting Timeless Beauty: The Art of Carving Egyptian Alabaster, which this time has a video, which I sadly can't link below (the actual process beings at about the 2 minute mark) and we see the exact process of how it's done in a traditional, but clearly complex and skilled manner.

But the point I'm making is that we know what processes the ancient Egyptians used, because there are still people using those same processes! We know how they did it, but you just refuse to accept that as evidence for anything. And your claims of the ancients using much more advanced technology than you claim they had just poos all over these people's hard work.

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THE LIST
of Middle Eastern countries other than Israel believes in the freedoms and rights to be able to live by your own conscience, practice your beliefs, speak freely without being killed (or jailed) for it.
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THERE ARE NONE
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Jordan is close.

The rest all backed and funded Shia or Sunni terrorists and have attempted to destroy the state of Israel.

That being said, thanks to Trump these states are now willing to fight terrorists (or watch Israel do so) and make peace with Israel. Note, that Egypt was already at peace with Israel (thanks to Jimmy Carter).

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Yes I think this is the way forward. To get other middle eastern nations to accept Isreals right to exist. Really its a simple request and one the west has longed support. Under the United Nations after the horrors of WW2 we realised this fundemental God given right when we created the Human Rights Declarations.

But for some reason people are forgetting this truth due to political ideologies that are full of hate for certain peoples.

And make no mistke the exact same hate that Islamists have for Isreal they also have for the west, for Christians. If Isreal was wiped out they would be coming for us next. They were targetting us before Covid and people forget.

But now on the other side of Covid we are seeing the same hate and division come into western nations who are even siding with radicals rather and rejecting this fundemental right and truth.

That means we are breaking down morally. We have lost our moral compass and rather than the free nations who once stood on these truths making the world a better place. We are seeing the Islamist and radical ideology spread throughout the world.

Not just in a one off nation like the Nazis or Islamist nations that were far away. But in every nation just about. All the so called free nations. This is not good. We are more or less seeing the downfall of the west and if not the world.