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Warden_of_the_Storm · Oct 28, 2025

stevevw said:
Lol and BCP1928 said no one is asking for evidence of the tools that created the machined signatures. How does this change the fact that the signatures show machining. That somehow if we don't find the device that the machined marks sudden;y disappear.

Because they can easily just show simple machining with simple saws and tools as we know they used. Extraordinary claims such as yours require extraordinary evidence: you want to claim that complex and sophisticated machinery superior and more advanced than what we know the Egyptians to have used, then you need to show the actual evidence of said machinery itself, not just cuts in a rock that has you going "SEE! SEE! ADVANCED MACHINERY!"

Put your money where your mouth is or shut it.

stevevw · Oct 28, 2025

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
Still waiting on the actual evidence of the tools existing rather than masoned stone that doesn't tell us what tools they used...

How does this change the fact that the signatures show machining. That somehow if we don't find the device that the machined marks suddenly disappear. Look at these images already posted earlier.

Vase fragment from under Mastaba 17 taken on sight. There were many like this. Clearly shows circular strirations that look like machining.

Predynatic vase on left and modern CNC vase on right.

You tell me what caused those marks. Was it a copper saw or chisel or some sort of machining.

DaisyDay · Oct 28, 2025

Tuur said:
Saw a photo of a White House event with tables and small tables set up on the lawn. Looked for all the world like patio tables, but probably were more classy. The question is whether that was a decision to go al fresco based on the event, or lack of room.

Obviously doing it al fresco was a choice as they have always had the option of setting up tents.

Maria Billingsley · Oct 28, 2025

Mercy Shown said:
The Sabbath sits right there in the Ten Commandments. In fact, it has become the icon of the Law for many Sabbatarians. It is the punchline of many moralistic arguments and the centerpiece of Sabbatarian doctrine. To them, it is to be kept just as strictly as any of the other nine commandments. Yet the others carry natural, immediate consequences when violated. For example, if I kill someone, I may be killed myself or imprisoned for the rest of my life. If I covet my neighbor’s wife, I may end up in the hospital or the morgue. Sabbath breaking, however, has no such visible consequence. That creates a battleground where Christians often cross swords.

What fascinates me most is how people use the broad platitude “keep the Sabbath,” even to the point of wearing the label “Sabbath Keeper.” It certainly comes with the temptation to look down on those not “discerning enough” to agree with Sabbath keeping, and it can be an ego boost for those who enjoy a sense of spiritual superiority. Not all are like that, of course. There are many sincere Sabbath keepers who do so with humility and love, considering themselves no better than anyone else.

Yet for most who carry the label, the one thing they rarely address is the specifics of true Sabbath keeping. The moment one asks “How should it actually be practiced?” disagreements erupt. The Sabbath-keeping community is deeply divided over what is appropriate and what is not. It is far easier to remain in the comfort of the broad label than to open the can of worms and define the boundaries. Still, if Sabbath keeping is truly salvific, should the precise observance of it not be extremely important? One would hate to wear the label all their life only to discover they had been doing it wrong.

I could give examples, but for now, I will leave the worms in that can a little longer.

The crux of the issue is judgment. Those who preach keeping Sabbath continually judges this who do not. Those who do not keep Sabbath, just want to be left alone.

Paul made a very strong plea to Christians not to cause stumbling blocks over this matter. I encourage everyone to read Romans 14.
Blessings

NxNW · Oct 28, 2025

HARK! said:
I used to hold it in my hand 24/7, on my ring finger. Yes, I would even sleep with it in my hand.

I'd think that would be a pretty small amount.

HARK! said:
Is there any counterparty risk in holding mutual funds?

Sure, but there is also risk in having gold bars tucked away.

Dan1988 · Oct 28, 2025

BNR32FAN said:
You started off by replying with the word “no”. Are you saying that God did not will or desire for man to be born in a fallen state of total depravity?

Now you're trying to get into the mind of God, good luck with that. Anyone who dares to venture there will suffer or even die, long before they get near to finding their answer.
So, I dare not temp God. As that will certainly arouse His wrath. Lucifer also challenged Gods authority, and look at him now.

MotoToTheMax · Oct 28, 2025

rjs330 said:
Smuggling in poison that has killed millions isn't tyranny, but it is narco-terrorism. And terrorists have it coming.

How do you feel about legislative terrorists? Do they have it coming too?

Dan1988 · Oct 28, 2025

BNR32FAN said:
But he’s NOT telling them that they are incapable of being spiritually appraised. And you keep refusing to answer the question, were they spiritually appraised and were they believers? Why won’t you answer the question?

I already answered your question, but as usual I need to repeat my answer many time before the penny7 drops for you. I made it clear that nobody apart from God and the saved person know for sure. The rest of the Church members can't know for sure.
According to your theory, Judas Iscariot was a genuine believer. But we found out that he is actually a Devil. So, why should I blindly believe that every professing Christian is a genuine born again believer.

Dan1988 · Oct 28, 2025

BNR32FAN said:
Answer my questions. Was Noah commanded to build an ark or not? Was Moses commanded to go to Pharaoh or not? Was Jonah commanded to go to Nineveh or not? Answer the question.

No, No, No, none of them were commands to earn their salvation. That's flat out wrong, you won't find anything in the bible to support your opinion on this.

All of those men were already saved at that time, so it's ridiculous to suggest that their salvation was was dependant on keeping the commands. You won't find a single verse in the Bible to support your opinion that saved people can lose their salvation for disobedience.

I will join your religion immediately if you find a hint of anything to support such an opinion in the bible.

wing2000 · Oct 28, 2025

Note to Mexico: If you suspect a gringo is smuggling illegal weapons in to your country, you may simply kill him. After all, the smuggler is a an arms-terrorist. That's the new operating mode per our Trump. Summarily executie individuals based on suspicion. Suspicion that will never be proved in a court of law.

Dan1988 · Oct 28, 2025

BNR32FAN said:
You proved it where? Please do quote the post where you proved that.

I'm not going to scroll back in time to find the particular reply. I'll just quote the same verse of scripture

Ephesians 2:8-10
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.

Can you see "through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God". Yes I know this in very unconfutable for you, but it is Gods Word not mine. Faith is a gift, you don't get to conjure it up through some religious ritual.

RDKirk · Oct 28, 2025

bèlla said:
Why would I seek a church’s permission to launch a business or a platform with speaking gigs? Why would I look to them to create a charity and fund it with my own means? I can understand the reason if you’re desirous of support or they’re providing financial resources. But they don’t have the manpower to scrutinize everyone. Never mind the 501c3 which I don’t agree with nor do I like the donor model. But to each his own.

~bella

We're talking specifically about evangelism and other church missions. Do you see that as merely a business?

Dan1988 · Oct 28, 2025

BNR32FAN said:
Woah back up a verse brother. You quoted verse 18 but neglected to read verse 17 carefully.

“Therefore if God gave to them the same gift as He gave to us also AFTER BELIEVING in the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I that I could stand in God’s way?” When they heard this, they quieted down and glorified God, saying, “Well then, God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life.””
‭‭Acts‬ ‭11‬:‭17‬-‭18‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

God gave them the gift AFTER BELIEVING, not before. That’s what the passage actually says.

And in Acts 5:31 yes Jesus did grant repentance to Israel. Did they repent? Some of them did but most of them didn’t since it was the majority of Israel that crucified Him.

2 Timothy 2:25 Paul is telling Timothy to be kind and patient towards the unrepentant because God might lead them to repentance and they might come to their senses. It for say that they can’t repent it just says that God might grant them repentance which means that He might cause something to happen in their life that would lead them to repentance. It doesn’t say that they can’t repent unless God grants them the ability to. As I’ve already pointed out to you in Romans 2:4-5 God is in fact leading those people to repentance and yet they are still refusing to cooperate as did Israel for 1500 years.

And in response to John 6:65 I’ve already addressed this verse along with John 6:44 by demonstrating that this is how man was drawn to Christ during His ministry and John 12:32 describes how man is drawn to Christ after His crucifixion and so far you still haven’t addressed this passage.

My Bible doesn't support your version of the gospel, I'm not sure what your religious denominations teaches about salvation, because you haven't revealed it yet.

Now you're claiming that God doesn't give anyone the gift of repentance, until after they believe.

It would be very helpful if you could reveal what your denominations prescription or formular is for salvation. If I visited your Church and asked you minister, "what must I do to be saved". Would he suggest that my salvation is dependant on meeting a long list of requirements as set out by your denominations Hierarchy.

I really don't have a clue how people are saved in your denomination, I'm getting mixed messages from your replies.

Could you please revel who or what "Israel" is in your denomination. My Church taught me that I am the Israel of God, meaning that Gods "Elect" are the Israel of God. So it seems that your Israel and mine are completely different entities. If your Israel is National Israel, then it doesn't make any Biblical sense.
I don't have to time to do a thorough study with you, because there's a lot to learn. But you can do a web search to find all the different and opposing views held by the 47,000 different Christians Denominations.

So you're suggesting that God set out to lead many to repentance and failed miserably. Well I must disagree with you there, because the God of the Bible never fails in anything He sets out to do. So your theology is very different to the one I find in the Bible.

Every single one of Gods Elect was and in the exact same way, from Abraham to Paul. Every one of us was saved by grace, through the gift of faith in the Lord Jesus. Abraham placed his trust in Jesus and he was a born again Christian, the only difference between him and myself is he looked forward to the coming Messiah and I look back to His work on the cross. But we are both saved by the same cross so we are brothers in Christ.

Every time you attempt to compartmentalize Gods work of salvation, into what you perceive the order should be, it looks like an incoherent mess to me. God works in mysterious ways, you not going to pigeon hole His mysterious ways.

Bob Crowley · Oct 28, 2025

I think in heaven the least will be first, and the first will be last. Those who suffer much and are complete unknowns in this world, like Phillis Wheatley (whom I'd never heard off, like millions of unknown others), will be those who receive the greatest reward.

CS Lewis demonstrated this in allegorical form in his book "The Great Divorce".

A spirit has been granted leave from Purgatory, or the "Ghost World" to Heaven, and sees a procession coming, in chapter 12.

"All down one long aisle of the forest the under-sides of the leafy branches had begun to tremble with dancing light...Some kind of procession was approaching us, and the light came from the persons who composed it...First came bright Spirits, not the Spirits of men, who danced and scattered flowers - soundlessly falling, lightly drifting flowers, though by the standards of the ghost-world each petal would have weighted a hundred-weight and their fall would have been like the crashing of boulders. Thge, on the left and right, at each side of the forest avenue, came youthful shapes, boys upon one hand, girls on the other. If I could remember their singing and write down the notes, no man who read that score would ever grow sick or old. Between them went musicians and after these a lady in whose honour all this was being done.

I cannot now remember whether she was naked or clothed. If she were naked, it must have been the almost invisible penumbra of her courtesy and joy which produces in my memory the illusion of a great and shining train that followed her across the happy grass. If she were clothed, then the illusion of nakedness is doubtless due to the clarity with which her innermost spirit shone through the clothes. For clothes in that country [Heaven] are not a disguise: the spiritual body lives along each thread and turns them into living organs. A robe or a crown is there as much one of the wearer's features as a lip or an eye....

...............................

"Is it? ... Is it?" I whispered to my guide.

"Not at all," said he, "It's someone ye'll never have heard of. Her name on Earth was Sarah Smith and she lived at Golders Green."

............................

"Every beast and bird that came near her had its place in her love. In her they became themselves. And now the abundance of life she has in Christ from the Father flows over into them."

" 'Aye. She is one of the great ones. Ye have heard that fame in this country and fame on Earth are two quite different things.'"

Trump may or may not get the Nobel Peace Prize, but between that and his wealth he will have received his reward.

Abraham1st · Oct 28, 2025

Guojing said:
See Ephesians 1, especially Ephesians 1:13, understand what the word "sealed" means in the Greek.

It means this in Christianity, (the preaching of the cross is foolishness to the Greeks who seek after wisdom.) the mystery of HIs will is made known to us, to gather us together as one in Him, in Him, we have obtained an inheritance, predestined that we should be to the praise and glory, who first trusted on Christ.

After we trusted, hearing the word of truth, the gospel of our salvation, and after we believed we were sealed with the holy spirit of promise.

The seal of the holy spirit of promise is our earnest/SINCERE CONVICTION, of our inheritance UNTIL THE REDEMPTION OF THE PURCHASED POSSESSION, unto the praise of His glory.

Apostle Paul goes on to speak about how he prays for them, that God MAY GIVE UNTO YOU THE SPIRUT OF WISDOM AND REVELATION IN THE KNOWLEDGE OF HIM., to KNOW WHAT IS THE HOPE OF HIS CALLING, RAISING CHRIST FROM THE DEAD, TO KNOW THE EXCEEDING GREATNESS TO USWARD WHO BELIEVE, AND PUT ALL THINGS UNDER IS FEET, AND GAVE HM TO BE THE HEAD OVER ALL THHINGS OF THE CHURCH, AND HE IS FAR ABOVE ALL PRINCIPALITY AND POWER AND MIGHT AND DOMINION, AND NAME THAT IS NAMED, NOT ONLY IN THIS WORLD, BUT ALSO IN THAT WHICH IS TO COME.

Ephesians 1:9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

Ephesians 1:15 Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints,
16 Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers;
17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,
20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.

FAITH-IN-HIM · Oct 28, 2025

rjs330 said:
I simply think that the difference is that some want to highlight America's flaws while others want to highlight its good. Some want to make America uniquely bad as if America where somehow separated from the rest of the world's history and how it operated. The focus on it's mistakes rather than on its victories and the good it brought to the world in spite of its errors.

You see it even today in the progressives. America has no real greatness. America is still bad. America is still a racist, colonialist, misogynistic, bigoted country with few redeeming qualities. And the only way to make her better is to become more like Europe.

I dont dislike America's history. She has a flawed history just like every other country in the world. And we should recognize her shortcomings but not dwell on them. The idea of America is a noble and great cause that has worked through the flaws to become the greatest nation on earth. The nation that has done great things for people around the world and produced freedom and prosperity for its people never seen before.

I recognize America's failures, but I dont recognize them as unique. I dont dwell on them and use them to say how bad America is. I choose to see America's victories over its failures and its ideals of opportunities and freedoms for all its people. Focusing on the negative is a destroyer. Focusing on the good is a builder.

You claim not to focus on negativity, yet in this thread alone you label half of Americans as people who hate their country and suggest they should leave. You equate those wanting policy change through democratic means with the "hate America crowd," and refer to millions of protesters with derogatory terms. These are your fellow Americans, so it's clear you do focus on the negative and point fingers at others.

Your post showed your love for America through how you described Americans with opposing political views.

Christsfreeservant · Oct 28, 2025

“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to obtain an inheritance which is imperishable and undefiled and will not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, who are protected by the power of God through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. In this you greatly rejoice, even though now for a little while, if necessary, you have been distressed by various trials, so that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold which is perishable, even though tested by fire, may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ; and though you have not seen Him, you love Him, and though you do not see Him now, but believe in Him, you greatly rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory, obtaining as the outcome of your faith the salvation of your souls.” (1 Peter 1:3-9 NASB1995)

When we read this passage of Scripture, we need to read it carefully, considering every word and phrase and their meanings so that we don’t miss out on what this is really teaching us.

Yes! Only by the mercies of God can any of us be saved from our sins and have the hope of eternal life with God in heaven. We can do nothing in our own flesh to earn or to deserve our own salvation. Only by the grace of God, and because of Jesus’s sacrifice on that cross to put our sins to death with him, can any of us come to genuine faith in the Lord Jesus, be delivered from our bondage to sin, and walk in fellowship with our Lord in obedience to his commands. So all the glory and praise belongs to God and not to us.

But now it is important for us to know what this word “faith” really means and how biblically speaking it is to be applied to our lives. The Greek word is “pistis,” and it means to be persuaded, in this case to be persuaded of God as to his righteousness and holiness, and of our sinfulness, and of our need, by faith in him, to be crucified with him in death to sin, and be raised with him to walk in newness of life in him, no longer to live as slaves to sin, but now as slaves to God and to his righteousness (see Romans 6:1-23).

For when it speaks here of us obtaining an inheritance which is imperishable and undefiled and will not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, who are protected by the power of God “through faith” for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time, please consider what it means biblically to be of genuine faith in the Lord Jesus and what it means “for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.” For this is not a guarantee of salvation and eternal life for everyone who merely verbalizes faith in the Lord Jesus.

For Jesus Christ taught that to come to him we must deny self, take up our cross daily (die daily to sin), and follow (obey) him. For if we hold on to living in sin and for self, we will lose our lives for eternity. But if we deny self, die daily to sin, by the Spirit, and we walk in obedience to our Lord and to his commands, in his power, then we have eternal life with God. For not everyone who calls him “Lord” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one DOING (obeying) the will of God (see Luke 9:23-26; Matthew 7:21-23).

And this is describing for us “a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.” For salvation from sin and eternal life with God are not promised to us based on a one-time profession of faith in Jesus Christ. For biblical faith is that which is currently active and ongoing, being lived out in our daily lives, in practice, by the grace of God, and in the power of God, until Jesus returns. And it involves us dying daily to sin, by the Spirit, and us walking in obedience to our Lord’s commands, in the power of God, to the very end.

[Romans 8:24; Romans 13:11; 1 Corinthians 1:18; 1 Corinthians 15:1-2; 2 Timothy 1:8-9; Hebrews 9:28; 1 Peter 1:5,9]

And then it goes on to support what was just stated above when it speaks of the various trials he takes us through in our lives, so that the “proof” of our faith, even though tested by fire, may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ. For the trials of life will test our faith to see if it is genuine biblical faith which will endure to the end. And the outcome of our faith (in practice) is the salvation of our souls, i.e. our God given faith which results in us dying to sin and obeying our Lord in practice.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

O Come, O Come, Emmanuel

Anonymous/Unknown
Tr. By John M. Neale, 1851

O come, O come, Emmanuel,
And ransom captive Israel
That mourns in lonely exile here
Until the Son of God appear.

O come, Thou Wisdom from on high,
Who orders all things mightily;
To us the path of knowledge show,
And teach us in its ways to go.

O come, Thou Branch of Jesse’s stem,
Unto Thine own and rescue them!
From depths of hell Thy people save,
And give them vict’ry o’er the grave.

O come, Thou Key of David, come
And open wide our heav’nly home;
Make safe for us the heav’nward road,
And bar the way to death’s abode.

O come, Thou Bright and Morning Star,
And bring us comfort from afar!
Dispel the shadows of the night
And turn our darkness into light.

O come, Desire of nations, bind
In one the hearts of all mankind;
Bid all our sad divisions cease,
And be Thyself our King of Peace.

Rejoice! Rejoice! Emmanuel
Shall come to thee, O Israel.

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RDKirk · Oct 28, 2025

bèlla said:
Absolutely. I found articles on the subject with a list of jobs that will be gone a few years ago and they can’t be found now. Did you hear about the report Deloitte prepared for the government that was done by Ai and wrong? They received $400k for the project and have numerous contracts and they weren’t canceled.

~bella

Whether AI can do a job correctly is not a problem under discussion in business circles.

Part of their supposition is "well, humans make mistakes, too."

Another part of their supposition is that AI will save so much money the error losses will still total to a net gain.

And yet another part of their supposition is that AI will get good enough soon enough once it's installed.

Abraham1st · Oct 28, 2025

The Lord said to Moses, He is the God of his father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob. The Lord said He had seen the affliction of HIs people which are in Egypt, and He knows their sorrows. Giod had come down to deliver them from the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land into a good land, unto the place of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites.

(An angel of the Lord appeared to Moses in the wilderness of MOUNT SINA, the voice of the Lord came unto him and said, He is the God of his fathers, the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. )

(God said He has seen the affliction of HIs people in Egypt, and heard their groaning, and was come down to deliver them, and for Moses to come and He will send him into Egypt.)

Exodus 3:6 Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.
7 And the Lord said, I have surely seen the affliction of my people which are in Egypt, and have heard their cry by reason of their taskmasters; for I know their sorrows;
8 And I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land unto a good land and a large, unto a land flowing with milk and honey; unto the place of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites.

Acts 7:30 And when forty years were expired, there appeared to him in the wilderness of mount Sina an angel of the Lord in a flame of fire in a bush.
31 When Moses saw it, he wondered at the sight: and as he drew near to behold it, the voice of the Lord came unto him,
32 Saying, I am the God of thy fathers, the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. Then Moses trembled, and durst not behold.
33 Then said the Lord to him, Put off thy shoes from thy feet: for the place where thou standest is holy ground.
34 I have seen, I have seen the affliction of my people which is in Egypt, and I have heard their groaning, and am come down to deliver them. And now come, I will send thee into Egypt.

Moses tells all the people he has set before them that day, a blessing and a curse. A blessing if they obey the commandments of the Lord their God. A curse if they will not obey the commandments of the Lord their God, and go after other gods. It shall come to pass when the Lord had brought them into the land where they go to possess it, that they shall put the blessing upon mount Gerizim, and the curse upon mount Ebal.

(Gerizim. The mountain is one of the highest peaks in the West Bank and rises to 881 m (2,890 ft) above sea level, 70 m (230 ft) lower than Mount Ebal. Mount Ebal and Mount Gerizim are the highest peaks in the Nablus region. )

(You that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. He who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.)

(Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which genders to bondage, which is Agar. This Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answers to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.)

(But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.)

Deuteronomy 11:26 Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse;
27 A blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the Lord your God, which I command you this day:
28 And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the Lord your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known.
29 And it shall come to pass, when the Lord thy God hath brought thee in unto the land whither thou goest to possess it, that thou shalt put the blessing upon mount Gerizim, and the curse upon mount Ebal.
30 Are they not on the other side Jordan, by the way where the sun goeth down, in the land of the Canaanites, which dwell in the champaign over against Gilgal, beside the plains of Moreh?

Galatians 4:21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Joshua gathered all the tribes of Israel to Shechem, and they presented themselves before God.

He tells them this says God, their fathers dwelled on THIS SIDE OF THE FLOOD, Terah, the father of Abraham, and they SERVEDD OTHER GODS.

God took Abraham their father, from the OTHER SIDE OF THE FLOOD, and led him THROUGHOUT ALL THE LAND OF CANAAN, multiplied all his seed and GAVE HIM ISAAC. ( A GIFT IN HIS OLD AGE.) and gave unto Isaac Jacob and Esau. ( Esau was given mount Seir, but Jacob and HIS CHILDREN, went down into Egypt.)

Now they should FEAR THE LORD, and serve Him in SINCERITY AND IN TRUTH, and put away the gods which their fathers have served ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FLOOD, and IN EGYPT, and SERVE THE LORD.

If it sems EVIL TO THEM TO SERVE THE LORD, choose that day, to whom they will serve, whether the gods which their fathers served that were on THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FLOOD, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land they were now dwelling, but as for JOSHUA AND HIS HOUSE, they will SERVE THE LORD.

Joshua 24:1 And Joshua gathered all the tribes of Israel to Shechem, and called for the elders of Israel, and for their heads, and for their judges, and for their officers; and they presented themselves before God.

Joshua 24:2 And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods.

Joshua 24:3 And I took your father Abraham from the other side of the flood, and led him throughout all the land of Canaan, and multiplied his seed, and gave him Isaac.
4 And I gave unto Isaac Jacob and Esau: and I gave unto Esau mount Seir, to possess it; but Jacob and his children went down into Egypt.

Joshua 24:14 Now therefore fear the Lord, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the Lord.

Joshua 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.

Jesus tells the people of Israel He did not come to destroy the law, or the prophets, but to fulfil.

He tells them, truly, one jot or one little part shall not depart from the law, till all be fulfilled, and guards it by haven and earth pass first, also the law and the prophets were until John, since/from then, the kingdom of heaven is preached, and it is easier for heaven and earth to pass than for one little part of the law to fail.

In Christ dwells the fulness of the Godhead in the body, and we are complete in Him, He is THE HEAD of all PRINCIPALITY AND POWER. ( THE HEAD OF THE CORNER THEY REJECTED Matthew 21:37-45. Luke 20:13-19.))

We are circumcised WITH HIM, by the circumcision of Christ, BURIED WITH HIM IN BAPTISM, also risen with him by the faith of the operation of God, who has raised Him from the dead.

We who were dead in our sins were quickened TOGETHER WITH HIM, having FORGIVEN US ALL TRESSPASSES, blotting out the ORDINANCES that was against us, CONTRARY TO US, NAILING THEM TO HIS CROSS TAKING THEM OUT OF THE WAY. He SPOILED PRINCIPALITIES AND POWERS, making a show of them OPENLY, TRIUMPHING OVER THEM IN IT.

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Luke 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.
17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

RDKirk · Oct 28, 2025

Dan Perez said:
And what do you say about this verse in. Gal 6: 15 says !!

For in Christ Jesus , neither CIRCUMCISION. is of any FORCE nor UNCIRCUMCION , but , a NEW CREATION. !!

AND you say it is very PLAIN. , , so how PLAIN is this verse ??

Am I in. the place of God. ??

What say you. ??

dan P

It seems like this is a question bedoggling to civilians that to a military troop is no question at all.

I can stand as sergeant (which, btw, derives from the Latin "servant") and read to the troops the day's orders from the commander, and all the troops know reading the commander's commands does not make me the commander. It doesn't even put me "in place of the commander."

It's funny how civilians have such a hard time understanding that kind of relationship.

The centurion whose servant Jesus healed understood it, even though Jesus' own disciples did not.

Abraham1st · Oct 28, 2025

Genesis 8:4 And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.

(The Mountains of Ararat are a dormant volcanic mountain range in eastern Turkey, near the borders of Armenia and Iran. They are known for having two peaks, Greater Ararat ($5,137$ m) and Lesser Ararat ($3,896$ m), with Greater Ararat being the highest point in Turkey.)

Noah began to be a husbandman, planting a vineyard, drank of the wine and was drunk, uncovered in his tent, Ham the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father and told his two other brothers, who took a garment and covered the nakedness of their father. Noah awoke and knew what the younger had done, and said, cursed be Canaan, to be a servant of servants, and said blessed be the Lord God of Shem, and Canaan shall be his servant. Japheth God enlarges, to dwell in the tents of Shem, and Canaan shall be his servant. (Israel, the Gentiles, and the children of the flesh.)

(By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.)

(The Lord spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly)

(The Lord turned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condeming them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly.)

Genesis 9:20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

Hebrews 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

2 Peter 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

2 Peter 2:6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

Abraham dwelled in Canaan, and Lot pitched towards Sodom.

The men of Sodom were wicked sinners before the Lord.)

When Abraham was separated from Lot, He said for Abraham to see the land, northward and southward, eastward and westward, and all the land he sees God will give it to Abraham and to his seed for ever. Gid tells Abraham to arise and walk through the land in the height of it and in the breadth of it, for he will give it unto him.

The sun went down and it was dark, BEHOLD a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces. In the SAME DAY, the Lord made a covenant with Abraham, saying He had given his seed that land, from the river of Egypt until the great river, the river Euphrates.

(The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims, And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.)

(Men, brothers, and fathers, HEARKEN, The God of glory appeared unto our father Abraham, when he was in Mesopotamia, before he dwelt in Charran, telling him to get out of his country, away from his kindred, and come into a land He will show him, then he came out and dwelt in Charron, and when his father was dead he removed into the land of Canaan, giving him no inheritance, YET HE PROMISED that He would GIVE IT TO HIM FOR A POSESSION, and to his SEED after him, WHEN AS YET HE HAD NO CHILD.)

Genesis 13:12 Abram dwelled in the land of Canaan, and Lot dwelled in the cities of the plain, and pitched his tent toward Sodom.
13 But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the Lord exceedingly.
14 And the Lord said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward:
15 For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.
16 And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then shall thy seed also be numbered.
17 Arise, walk through the land in the length of it and in the breadth of it; for I will give it unto thee.

Genesis 15:17 And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces.
18 In the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:
19 The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites,
20 And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims,
21 And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.

Acts 7:2 And he said, Men, brethren, and fathers, hearken; The God of glory appeared unto our father Abraham, when he was in Mesopotamia, before he dwelt in Charran,
3 And said unto him, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and come into the land which I shall shew thee.
4 Then came he out of the land of the Chaldaeans, and dwelt in Charran: and from thence, when his father was dead, he removed him into this land, wherein ye now dwell.
5 And he gave him none inheritance in it, no, not so much as to set his foot on: yet he promised that he would give it to him for a possession, and to his seed after him, when as yet he had no child.

God said to Abraham He will establish HIs covenant between him and his seed after him, for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto Abraham and to HIS SEED AFTER HIM. ( I will be a FATHER UNTO HIM/I WILL MAKE HIM MY FIRSTBORN/HIGHER THAN THE KINGS OF THE EARTH/AFTER RISEN SAID I AM NOGT YET ASCENDED TO MY FATHER AND YOUR FATHER, TO MY GOD AND YOUR GOD. Psalm 89:24-29. John 20:17.)

(God said that Abrahams seed should sojourn in a strange land; and that they should bring them into bondage, and entreat them evil four hundred years.)

(And the nation to whom they shall be in bondage will I judge, said God: and after that shall they come forth, and serve me in this place.)

(And HE GAVE HIM THE COVENANT OF CIRCUMCISION: and so Abraham BEGAT USAAC AND CIRCUMCISED HIM THE EIGHTH DAY,; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat the twelve patriarchs.)

Psalm 89:24 But my faithfulness and my mercy shall be with him: and in my name shall his horn be exalted.
25 I will set his hand also in the sea, and his right hand in the rivers.
26 He shall cry unto me, Thou art my father, my God, and the rock of my salvation.
27 Also I will make him my firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth.
28 My mercy will I keep for him for evermore, and my covenant shall stand fast with him.
29 His seed also will I make to endure for ever, and his throne as the days of heaven.

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Genesis 17:7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.
8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.
9 And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations.
10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.

Acts 7:6 And God spake on this wise, That his seed should sojourn in a strange land; and that they should bring them into bondage, and entreat them evil four hundred years.
7 And the nation to whom they shall be in bondage will I judge, said God: and after that shall they come forth, and serve me in this place.
8 And he gave him the covenant of circumcision: and so Abraham begat Isaac, and circumcised him the eighth day; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat the twelve patriarchs.

God said Sarah shall bear Abraham a wife indeed, and he shall call his name Isaac, and He will establish HIs covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with HIS SEED after him.

(To Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.)

(The law SERVED till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.)

Genesis 17:19 And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.

Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Galatians 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

Abraham1st · Oct 28, 2025

The Lord repented to have made man, both man and beast, the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air.

Noah FOUND GRACE in the EYES OF THE LORD. ( for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel, with THOSE SEVEN; they ARE THE EYES OF THE LORD, which run to and fro THROUGH THE WHOLE EARTH. Zechariah 4:10.)

Noah was a JUST man and PERFECT in his generations and NOAH WALKED WITH GOD.

The earth also was CORRUPT BEFORE GOD, and God looked upon the earth, (A LAMB AS IT HAD BEEN SLAIN, having SEVEN HORNS AND SEVEN EYES, which are THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD SENT FORTH INTO ALL THE EARTH. Revelation 5:6.) and BEHOLD, it was CORRUPT, for ALL FLESH HAD CORRUPTED HIS WAY UPON THE EARTH.

God said unto Noah, that the end of all flesh is come before Him, THE EARTH FILLED WITH VIOLENCE, through them, and BEHOLD, He will destroy then WITH THE EARTH.

Make you an ark of Gopher wood.

(According to the Lords abundant MERCY, He has BEGOTTEN US AGAIN, unto a lively HOPE by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. To an inheritance INCORRUPTIBLE, that does not fade away/PERISH, reserved in heaven, by the power of God through faith, to be REVEALED IN THE LAST TIME.)

(Call on the Father and pass your time here in FEAR, as you know you were NOT REDEEMED WITH CORRUPTIBLE THINGS, but with the precious BLOOD OF CHRIST, as A LAMB WITHOUT BLEMISH AND WITHOUT SPOT, manifest in these LAST TIMES for us, by Him we believe in God that raised Him up from the dead, giving Him glory.)

(Being BORN AGAIN, NOT OF CORRUPTIBLE SEED, but OF INCORRUPTIBLE, by THE WORD OF GOD, which LIVES AND ABIDES FOR EVER.)

(By the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished.)

(The heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.)

(By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; BY THE WHICH HE CONDEMNED THE OLD WORLD.)

(Noah became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.)

(we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, LET US HAVE GRACE, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear.)

(The day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. We, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.)

Zechariah 4:10 For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are the eyes of the Lord, which run to and fro through the whole earth.

Hebrews 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

Hebrews 12:28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

1 Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

1 Peter 1:17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:
18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

2 Peter 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

Genesis 6:7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

Genesis 6:11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
14 Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.

God tells Noah of the flood He brings of water upon the EARTH, to destroy all flesh that has the breath of life from UNDER HEAVEN, but with Noah He would establish His covenant, and they shall come into the ark, his sons, his wife and his sons wives, and of every living thing of fall flesh, two of very kind male and female, and to take all food tat is eaten for them all, and Noah did according to all that God commanded him, so he did.

The Lord said unto Noah, for him and all his house to come into the ark, for Noah God had seen righteous before Him in that generation.

God tells Noah, for yet seven days and He will cause it to rain upon the earth, forty days and forty nights, and every living substance that God has made, He will destroy from off the face of the earth. Noah did according to all that the Lord commanded him.

It came to pass after seven days, the waters of the flood were upon the earth, and the rain was upon the earth forty days and fort nights.

In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day, all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;, them and every kind of all flesh of beast, creeping thing and very fowl, every bird of every sort.

They went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded Noah.

The flood was forty days upon the earth, the waters increased and BARE UP THE ARK, and it was LIFT UP ABOVE THE EARTH.

The waters prevailed, increasing greatly upon the earth, and the ark WENT UPON THE FACE OF THE WATERS.

(now is the judgement of THIS WORLD, now the prince OF THIS WORLD, shall be cast out. If I BE LIFTED UP FROM THE EARTH, I will draw all men unto me. They asked how the Son of man MUST BE LIFTED UP.)

Sometimes disobedient, the longsuffering of God WAITED IN THE DAYS OF NOAH, while the ARK WAS PREPARING, few, eight SOULS WERE SAVED BY WATER. The like figure, BAPTISM NOW SAVES US, the answer of a good conscience, BY THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST, who is GONE INTO HEAVEN, on the right hand of God, angels, authorities and powers being MADE SUBHECT UNTO HIM.)

Genesis 6:17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.
18 But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee.
19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.
20 Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive.
21 And take thou unto thee of all food that is eaten, and thou shalt gather it to thee; and it shall be for food for thee, and for them.
22 Thus did Noah; according to all that God commanded him, so did he.

Genesis 7:1 And the Lord said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.

Genesis 7:4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.
5 And Noah did according unto all that the Lord commanded him.

Genesis 7:10 And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth.
11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.
12 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.
13 In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;
14 They, and every beast after his kind, and all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind, and every fowl after his kind, every bird of every sort.
15 And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.
16 And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: and the Lord shut him in.
17 And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.
18 And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.

John 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
33 This he said, signifying what death he should die.
34 The people answered him, We have heard out of the law that Christ abideth for ever: and how sayest thou, The Son of man must be lifted up? who is this Son of man?

1 Peter 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

Larniavc · Oct 28, 2025

I’ve got a hypothesis on this. When you are younger and you first start listening to music it can be an amazing euphoric experience. Each new some brings a new emotional experience.

Then as we age finding something new becomes harder and harder. It doesn’t hit the emotional levels because we are not as young as we were when it was all new.

But what we know and love equally doesn’t hit those emotional highs; but we have the memory of those highs which are reactivated AND we get the added nostalgia.

So over time for those reasons new music (and let’s be honest, new things) just don’t have the emotional heft they had when we were kids.

I yield the floor.

RDKirk · Oct 28, 2025

Tuur said:
Given that Obamacare prevents doctors from referring patients to hospitals that they have a stake in, don't expect everyone to think it's the best thing since sliced bread, either. That provision was obviously put in to prevent financial abuse of the system. Problem is, that's how rural areas got hospitals in the first place.

Obamacare certainly has its faults.

But let's remember...it was the brainchild of a Republican after all.

And now the Republicans decry it, but propose nothing but nihilism to replace it.

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