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Gal 2:16 and Rom 2:13 : Works of the Law Justifies or not?

in Gal 2:16, we read;

"know that a man is not justified by works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have believed in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified."

However, in the Romans 2:13, it is written;

"For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but it is the doers of the law who will be declared righteous."

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I think it means those in Christ are hearers.
We understand that the unsaved can only try in vain to please God by trying to keep the Law.
But we cannot. Aside from Christ in us, we are lost.
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One Will Be Taken And The Other Left.

IMO, the rapture is not the second coming. It will, in my opinion, occur, perhaps, on the Feast of Trumpets.
I'm going to share what Zola Levitte taught.
When the priest blows the trumpet, the Jewish people knew to go to Temple. The others, not having been born a Jew, would pay the trumpet no mind.
Today, the real Jews are those who believe in Jesus Christ.
Don't like that?
Take it up with Paul.
So, 2 men working in a field and one is a non-believer and the Trumpet means nothing. He continues to work.
The other goes into the presence of God.
This all occurs prior to Christ's second coming.
You all seem familiar with the Feast Days.
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Islam attacks Israel

The Solar flare worldwide disaster will happen some time before Gog and his horde are motivated by God to attack the new nation of Beulah.
Must be enough time for the Lords peoples to be settled and prosperous. Ezekiel 38:8 & 12 Those verses are also proof that it is not the current inhabitants who will be there when Gog attacks.
keras, "Beulah" is not mentioned anywhere in Ezekiel 38-39.

Instead it is Israel and my people of Israel.

Ezekiel 38
verse 8 - mountains of Israel
verse 14 - my people of Israel
verse 16 - my people of Israel
verse 17 - prophets of Israel
verse 18 - land of Israel
verse 19 - land of Israel

Ezekiel 39
verse 2 - mountains of Israel
verse 4 - mountains of Israel
verse 7 - the Holy One in Israel
verse 9 - the cities of Israel
verse 11 - graves in Israel
verse 12 - house of Israel
verse 22 - house of Israel
verse 29 - house of Israel
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If Gog/Magog happens - and no new nation of Beulah formed afore-hand
- then you will have to concede that your solar flare/depopulation/re-population/new Christian nation called Beulah....... is a bust.
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Anyone up for a chat thread?

Charlie Hustle. Hall of Fame, yes or no?
I've not got a firm opinion on the matter, although I'm generally opposed to posthumous selection, so let's go with No. However, his teammate and HoFer Johnny Bench is adamantly opposed. This probably violates many rules as to the selection process but I think they ought to hold a special vote on his case. No say from the sports writers, only living Hall of Famers may vote on his selection. I suspect he'd probably lose something like 52-48 percent.
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WoF activity in the forum

There are still some of us around. I used to be Didaskalos, LittleRocketBoy, or HobartSchmedly. Times change. I have tried to fire the WOF back up. There are a couple that still post. I think with the advent of Facebook and other platforms, the "forum" has fallen out of time. I have been around for 23 years and I watched it go high, low, good, and bad.
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AND PAUL SAYS WHAT HEBREWS 8:7 MEANS FOR TODAY !

And Paul is the ONLY to speak about the DISPENSATION / OIKONOMIA of the MYSTERY / MUSTERION

But when any speaks about the Greek word BAPTISM , there about 7 different kinds of BAPTISM !

And the same about the word GOSPEL / EUANGLION , as there several GOSPELS .

dan p
And that still doesn't mean it's about the same mystery. Just think logically, how can a mystery later revealed (Ephesians) be the same as a mystery revealed earlier (Romans).

Aristarkos
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Ai Companion: Yes or No?

I'm required to use an AI notetaker at work. It's useful, but far from impressive. We're a long way off from AI companions like you might see in science fiction.

With apps and chatbots, there's also privacy concerns. With a lot of these, you're creating a profile as a prerequisite to using them, and that data lives on servers. I think it's more common to have a girlfriend who spills some of your secrets to her friends than it is to have one who records everything and sends it to marketers or the government.
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God saw that it was good ...

The temptation of both Adam's are the same ... as Jesus had said, you can't add one cubit to your stature by it.

I have said it before ... the Christian and the Atheist both fall into the same pit.

and why there is no difference between Jew and gentile ...

the other day i had one of those good laughs with Him whilst out riding my bike on a farm road ( as in two tractor tire tracks with a raised grassy mound between them) and came across a tortious who had made his way out of a field of freshly sprouted something and was munching on the only weed in sight that had come out from this grassy mound between these two tracks i was choosing which the better to ride on :laughing:
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The New Pope Isn’t Going to Solve Any Problems

Someone wrote here once that the natural law is the moral code that is written into the heart of every man. I have since learned that the only moral code that is shared by every culture is the Golden Rule, doing unto others as you would have them do unto you. There are also many historical variations on moral codes. Even Saint Paul said that slaves should obey their masters, well today we consider slavery to be an abomination and rightfully so. And if that is the case why was not the evil of slavery written into the heart of every man prior to the 20th century? What the writer seemed to mean as far as I could see is that the Catholic Church has defined what is written into the heart of every man and even if some of those things could never possibly have been considered in other cultures and other areas if the Catholic Church says that it's written into the heart of every man than it is. Well I am a Catholic but I am also a rational human being and that doesn't make sense to me.
Very excellent point.

Context is everything, I want to add.

St. Paul was the product of his times, as were the rest of the apostles. Much of his letters were personal and written to specific communities and people of the 1st century. Life was different 2,000 years ago.

Does God condone slavery? No. Look at the book of exodus.

My view only.

Blessings
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Do infants dying in infancy go to heaven or not?

"Sanctified" and "holy" do not mean righteous," they mean "set apart". . .in this case, from the world and with the people of God, enjoying their earthly blessings.
RIghteous and holy are "set apart" from sin.
Ok, thanks for the info. However, if the children are set apart and die suddenly wouldn't they go to heaven?
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If there are many pagan gods born of virgins, among other coincidences with Jesus, how can we be sure that Christianity is the correct religion?

Physical and historical evidences will eventually reach an end point.

The only thing that is really going to establish for fact that Jesus Christ is the real deal and is Lord, is prayer and watching Him respond to those prayers.

A personal relationship in this manner is the only concrete evidence I've ever seen that sticks. Doubt is the easiest and most prolific tool the little devils use and it doesn't take much to destroy a lot.

But when a person prays to God, knows their own life and situation and circumstances, and especially if they record their prayers in a book or log of some kind... we become shocked at just how many prayers are actually answered.

People that think prayer doesn't work, are people who don't pray much. When we talk to God and bring our problems to Him, He helps. It is then, and only then, that we know Jesus Christ is Lord of our life, on our side, and with us like He promised.

This doesn't mean life becomes a lazy river, or that every prayer is answered the way we want. But they are answered and He is there.

The Bible is established in the relationship between a person and God. I sought "evidence" all my life, and it helps I'll admit. But the relationship is the deal sealer. Nothing can replace it.
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Do Liberals Believe No One Is Above The Law.

You gave no proof and you demand proof from me? Another liberal tactic.
You gave a video that I said was lies with no proof. You said that what I said was typical liberal rhetoric. I then asked you to provide the proof that your video claimed. You can't do that so you push it back on me to prove what you can't because it doesn't exist.
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Greetings to all

Greetings to everyone here and praise the Lord!

I have arrived here to look for fellowship of other Believers! (even if it's online) I look forward to getting to know you, this place, and more importantly, getting to grow my relationship with Christ!

(Also to the staff) Thank you for giving me as well as everyone here the opportunity and privilege to be with each other and to serve God at this place!

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