rjs330 said:

Its not at all up to a judge to determine if a person is in violation of immigration law.

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That was not at issue. What was at issue was whether 615 people who were not subject to mandatory detention were actually subject to mandatory detention. They aren't, by definition. And whether others, who pose no safety risk, were eligible for bond. They are.

Let me suggest that you study hermeneutics and the proper techniques to apply historical and by linguistic context. You missed both by quote mining verses wretched out of context.

HARK! said:

(CLV) Ac 24:14
"Yet I am avowing this to you, that, according to the way which they are terming a sect, thus am I offering divine service to the hereditary God, believing all that is written, according to the law and in the prophets,

(CLV) Ac 24:5
For, finding this man a pestilence and |stirrer of insurrections among all the Jews who are on the |inhabited earth, besides a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes,

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Initially the Christian movement was indeed called the way. These verses pertain to a charge of public menace against Paul brought to Felix, governor, by the priest Ananias.

In verse 5 Ananias is bringing the charges against Paul who, by his evangelizing of the Jews, is creating dissent. This verse is a perfect example of why the Christians are NOT Israel since both are contrasted. Ananias uses the term “sect” to describe the sect of the Nazarenes. The Greek word for sect here is hairesis which is where we get the word heresy. The historical context of Nazareth is a place that elicited both contempt and reproach among both Romans and Jews.

Verse 14 is spoken by Paul in his defense stating that “in accordance to the way”, the Christian movement, that “they” call a sect, a heresy, with “they” meaning the Jews. Again here there is a clear distinction between the way and the Jews.

These verse say exactly the opposite to what you are forcing them to say. It is a hermeneutical disaster.

HARK! said:

(CLV) Ac 28:22
Now we count it worthwhile to hear from you what your disposition is. For, indeed, concerning this sect, it is known to us that everywhere it is being contradicted."

(CLV) Ac 28:23
Now setting a day for him, more came to him in the lodging, to whom he expounded, certifying to the kingdom of God, besides persuading them concerning Jesus, both from the law of Moses and the prophets, from morning till dusk.

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These verses relate to Paul’s imprisonment in Rome. Paul appealed but the Jews objected to his release so he had to appeal to Cesar, not because he had a problem with Rome but because he has a problem with the Jews objecting. In verse 21 the Jews state that they had not received letters complaining about him from Judea but (verse 22) heard that others areas related to Jews were starting that sect that Paul was with was creating problems. Again, they word for sect here hairesis is where we gat the word heresy from. So again, another clear distinction between the “sect” of Paul and the Jews.

In verse 23 Paul is evangelizing the Jews using the words of the OC including the law and the prophets. Why would Paul do that because Paul says that:

“To the Jews I became as a Jew, so that I might gain Jews; to those who are under the Law, I became as one under the Law, though not being under the Law myself, so that I might gain those who are under the Law;”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭9‬:‭20‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Again, these verses do not help you and you are ignoring the context completely,

HARK! said:

I won't continue in the folly of debunking what I have already debunked.

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lol The folly is yours. Here let me see you explain this verses.

“When they heard this, they quieted down and glorified God, saying, “Well then, God has also granted to the Gentiles the repentance that leads to life.” So then those who were scattered because of the persecution that occurred in connection with Stephen made their way to Phoenicia, Cyprus, and Antioch, speaking the word to no one except to Jews alone. But there were some of them, men of Cyprus and Cyrene, who came to Antioch and began speaking to the Greeks as well, preaching the good news of the Lord Jesus. And the hand of the Lord was with them, and a large number who believed turned to the Lord. The news about them reached the ears of the church in Jerusalem, and they sent Barnabas off to Antioch. Then when he arrived and witnessed the grace of God, he rejoiced and began to encourage them all with resolute heart to remain true to the Lord; for he was a good man, and full of the Holy Spirit and faith. And considerable numbers were added to the Lord. And he left for Tarsus to look for Saul; and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. And for an entire year they met with the church and taught considerable numbers of people; and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.”
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Did you read that? No sect of Jews but Christians.

Χριστιανός Christianós, khris-tee-an-os'; from G5547; a Christian, i.e. follower of Christ:—Christian.

You have absolutely no defense for your argument. None. Trying to twist context is just going to show the folly of what you can’t prove. The Christian is not a Jew and it is not under the law. Period.

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That's corn and not soybeans isn't it?

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Indeed it is.

AI Overview

The strong early sales of approximately 371,000 metric tons booked to Mexico as of September 2025 refer to corn. Mexico is the world's largest corn importer and a key market for U.S. corn exports.

Valletta said:

It states: "We recognize that nations have a responsibility to regulate their borders and establish a just and orderly immigration system for the sake of the common good. Without such processes, immigrants face the risk of trafficking and other forms of exploitation. Safe and legal pathways serve as an antidote to such risks." That's what is being done. Tragically one side defends the criminals, the human traffickers and others.

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You do realize that's not the whole statement, right?

Our current immigration system - especially as it is currently being enforced - is neither just nor orderly. And, more importantly from the perspective of the Catholic Church, it does not respect the fundamental dignity of immigrants as human persons, created in the image of God. If you want to say that previous administrations have failed to implement a just and orderly immigration policy, I'd say that's fair. I'd even agree with you - there are decades worth of failures to properly address the US immigration system, on the part of both Democratic and Republican administrations. But defending the current administration's actions as in line with the USCCB statement demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of what was said.

Russiangate ended with indictments and convictions of about a dozen Trump underlings who had lied about their meetings/collusion with Russian agents. Trump's own National Security Advisor pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his involvement.

And yeah most of the criminals in Watergate didn't actually take part in the burglary. Lying and covering up the crime took most of them down. That's how it always works.

Servus said:

the whole thing ended up as a nothingburger joke.

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All the perps who were convicted or pleaded guilty to felonies didn't think so. Granted, Trump pardoned most of them, for obvious reasons. But that doesn't mean they aren't criminals or that the collusion didn't happen. Reality matters.

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Most of us received around $1800 in 2020/21.

One debit card with $1200 on it in 2020.

And second card with $600 in 2021.

And some received a third card with an additional $600.

So this sort of thing has happened before. Therefore there's no reason to become unhinged over it.

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That took a global pandemic.

What’s the big emergency now?

I do not characterize Trump's handling of the economy like Biden. The Big Beautiful Bill and tariffs set them apart. The article and critics are right though that there is an inflation problem. Eliminating illegals in industries like meatpacking and home building will hurt too. It is hard for me to think of a single thing that Trump has done that significantly impacts the economy n a positive way. Perhaps the tax break for some seniors or the elimination of taxes on tips? Even reducing taxes on overtime is likely a negative. Why? Because companies can reduce hiring of new workers and use overtime more. So no real gains except for those workers.

Phil G said:

This is just yet another claim for which you have no evidence.

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If you say so.

I wonder how many civilians understand how little regard the military has towards the general population. We are deceived on so many levels, it's hard to know where to start.

Also one to consider is that these so-called incoming meteorites are not physical rocks that burn up in the atmosphere, but are instead electrical discharge events, hence no rocks that land on earth.

Halley was a Free Mason and made up the fairy tale about meteors as rocks in space.

Valletta said:

We can't let this exploitation of immigrants in a quest for votes and one-party control ever happen again. The leaders need to be held accountable. The effects of flooding of our country with from 10 to 20 million immigrants in one presidential term, in contempt of our border laws, will be felt for many years. It was an attack on the will of the people who had supported laws to gradually allow immigrants into our country. It has created a situation where some who might likely have gained citizenship will end up being deported, because there is no way our country can handle a proper review of tens of millions on a case by case basis. Certainly there had to be recognition of this fact by many who were sought control of our government.
Only a fraction of the children lost track of by the last administration have been rescued because there is nowhere to start to investigate on an individual basis. How many were essentially sold into slavery we may never know. Realize too that many immigrants were lured into our country when our president said "come." What we should working together on is a pathway for citizenship for those who love America and our Judeo/Christian founded culture, who don't wish to tear it down or be on the government dole for the rest of their lives. They can apply for citizenship from outside the country, but they will have to take a place in line BEHIND those who have obeyed our laws and legally applied from outside of the U.S. Instead many are idolizing some of the worst of criminals and those who hate our country, trying to keep them here as long as possible. Sadly we have seen this pattern of causing suffering for others for political gains, so often by the same people over and over again. I conjunction I also think the voluntary deportation program needs to be pushed harder.

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I advise you to re-read the bishops' statement and reflect on it. Because you seem to have missed the point entirely.

Vambram said:

It's obvious that you have an anti Trump bias.

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The tip-off was when he started resorting to facts.

Hentenza said:

1. I never mentioned a fourth heaven do not sure where you go that from.

2. Jesus body remained in the tomb for three days but His divine self did not. 1 Peter 3 tells us that He ministered to the spirits in “prison” and that He went to paradise as He told the thief. This has been Christian teaching since the beginning.

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No you didn’t mention a forth heaven, I made it up. Because you said that, “Paradise is the third heaven as Paul describes in 2 Cor. 12. This heaven is not the same as where Jesus explains He has not been to in John 20:17. In fact, Paul and Jesus call the third heaven paradise.” ,

Based on this statement, where is the heaven of John 20:17, the first heaven where birds and airplanes fly and the law of gravity is in play, or the second heavens further out where the planets are suspended beyond the laws of gravity?



Your senond statement, Jesus body remained in the tomb for three days but His divine self did not. 1 Peter 3 tells us that He ministered to the spirits in “prison” and that He went to paradise as He told the thief.

This statement appears to lack your understanding of what was accomplished in the death of Christ. Would you be willing to do as 1 Peter 3:15 instructs and answer some question in this regard?

Some of us require exercise.

EFSEE

Phil G said:

So what about the rest of my post?

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What about it ?

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• 2024/25 Outlook: As of September 2025, early sales are strong (e.g., ~371,000 metric tons booked to Mexico), but full-year projections are not yet finalized. USDA forecasts global demand growth, potentially supporting US exports.

Data sourced from USDA Economic Research Service and Foreign Agricultural Service reports.

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That's corn and not soybeans isn't it?

Phil G said:

This is not about "illusions", but about facts. Provable facts in the case of satellite tv signals.

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I know.

Such a stately building with average attendance of two dozen? Alleged assault in April. Police investigation in September? Diocese notified then? I have lots of questions. Oh my. Forgive me.

Strong in Him said:

Well think about it then.

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I have thought about it.

pasifika said:

You don't have to decide anything, All commandments, statues etc is given under the law to be followed. Breaking any commands etc in the law means breaking the whole Law. There is a confusion here for some, there is law based on works (this for the old covenant law) but also a law based on Faith for the New covenant. (see Romans 3 for the two laws). The two laws are independent of each other.

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Yes, there is a lot of confusion concerning Paul's teaching, especially in Romans 3. Paul is speaking about "remission of sins", not the definition of sin. Stealing is a Sin "because" God declared "Thou shall not steal". And the wages of sin is death. All men have sinned and therefore are dead in trespasses and sins. But God from the beginning has provided for the remission of those sins. From Abel to Moses, men were shown Mercy though His Grace who, like Abraham, would repent and "Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit". (Ez. 18:31)

But the Israelites HE saved from Sin (Egypt) broke His Covenant with a Golden Calf. So God "ADDED" a LAW Abraham didn't have, a temporary LAW to provide for the remission of their sins until the Prophesied High Priest of God, "After the Order of Melchizedek" should come (in their minds). This added LAW required that when a man sinned, he was required to bring a goat to a Levite Priest and kill it. The Priest would then take the blood of the sacrifice and sprinkle it on the Alter, along with other "works of this law", and through the works of this law the Priest would provide atonement for the repentant sinner. You can read about this yourself in Lev. 4.

This is what Paul called "The Law of Works" that was to lead men to the true Lamb of God. And it lead the Faithful, like David, Zacharias, Simeon and Anna, to the Christ. (Luke 1&2)

But the Priests became corrupted and used this Law as a marketing strategy to create a religious business selling the sacrifices for justification of sins. When all along what God wanted was obedience, as it is written, "To obey is better than sacrifice". For the Pharisees to accept Jesus as the Prophesied Messiah, would be the end of their business, their fame their being called "Rabbi". So they rejected the Christ and continued promoting their corrupted version of the Levitical Priesthood "works of the Law" for remission of sins.

The Law of Faith, was repent and "Yielding yourself" servants to obey God, in the belief that their sins will be forgiven by the Blood of the Lamb of God that HE offered to God for our sins, just like Abraham and David believed. This belief is called "Faith". That a man would repent of their transgressions, defined by Jesus as "Now go and Transgress God's Laws no more", turn to God, defined by Jesus as "Living by Every Word of God", and do works "worthy of repentance", defined by Paul as "Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members (Body) as instruments of righteousness "unto God"."

"Many", who come in Christ's Name, would have us believe Paul is speaking to God's Definition of Sin, as the "Law of Works" for the remission of sins. But if one turns away from this world's religious system and studies for themself, "if Faith", they will find what Moses instructed a man who transgressed God's commandments to do. And Only the Anointed Priest of God can provide for the remission of a mans sin. And HE Himself said, "I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish."

Mankind from the very beginning has chosen to judge God's Commandments, some as worthy of their respect and honor, and others as unworthy of their respect and honor. In other words, as Paul teaches, "when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

I am a nobody, but still it seems simply a reasonable service to Yield myself to God, not judge His Commandments.

pasifika said:

In regards to the rest (Sabbath rest) 4th command. This Rest is more than a literal or physical rest it's a "spiritual rest".

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Apple Sky said:

Of course I have.

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Well think about it then.
You have been given facts about satellite signals and are unable to give a decent explanation for where they come from.
Yet you still believe that satellites don't exist.

Strong in Him said:

You've read that yourself, I assume?

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Of course I have.

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You've read that yourself, I assume?

I can't think of any reason why you will not answer Phil G's question, unless it's that you don't want to concede/consider that satellite signals come from satellites and your assertion that there are no satellites would be shown to be wrong.

Jerry N. said:

In this case, this is true, but not all truths can be proven with facts. There is something else going on here, and it is probably important to figure it out.

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I think the only thing that's going on is that this is the Conspiracy theories section of the forum, and Apple sky, by her own admission, is addicted to Conspiracy theories.

Also, she seems to genuinely believe that unless Genesis 1 is taken as a literal description of God's creation, then people are doubting God and the Bible.