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Do you keep the Sabbath? (poll)

I understand that may be your view, but what I care about is what does the Scriptures state, are the feasts days about animal sacrifices. I am not sure if we are reading the same Bible but the annual feast days were all about animal sacrifices and atonement.
So I going to ask you again, why would God kill innocent sheep and goats before there was sin, just for fun?

I never said, nor does the Bible say, that God killed innocent sheep and goats "before there was sin".

It is my understanding of Scripture, not just a verse here or there, but "ALL" Scriptures, that God desires obedience, respect, honor towards HIM, which is only a reasonable expectation given our very existence is 100% founded in His Mercy and Love to create us in the first place.

I will ask you a question whose answer is necessary before an honest discussion of Scriptures between us can conclude. I answered your question, there is no atonement or Blood (The life of a being) needed, when there is no transgression.

So here is a question for you, and we will see if you will answer.

"In your understanding, Did God know Adam and Eve would sin when HE placed them in the garden"?

We will see if you are really interested in real fellowship and discussion of Scriptures.
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I don't know what your moaning at, it's not been debunked in my book.
So explain it then.
He can still be wrong.
And the fact that you purchased some of these Flat Earth cards and handed them out, proves nothing - except that you don't always check your sources before you pass them onto others.

1. "earth created before the sun",
"universe is complete",
"creation worshippers",
"Be still and know that I am God",
"everyone sees Jesus",
and others do not even mention, never mind prove, the shape of the earth.

2. "Matthews Bible mentions flat earth" is a completely ridiculous statement. The reference given is 2 Samuel 11:11. This verse is in the middle of a passage about David and Bathsheba. Bathsheba's husband was telling David that he was not going to go home and seduce his wife while his men were fighting a war. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the shape of the earth. Putting that on a poster titled "200 Flat earth verses" is an embarrassment to whoever designed the poster.

3. "The earth has ends", contradicts your verse from Isaiah which you insist says the earth is a circle. Ditto, "the earth has corners".

4. "earth has pillars and hangs on nothing" contradicts your statement from another thread that the foundations are rooted in the underworld.

This is only a few of the problems. The biggest being that all verses are taken out of context so that the Bible is made to say whatever the author of the poster wants it to say.
I've no doubt this guy is a born again Christian - the shape of the earth doesn't affect that. I highly doubt he knows how to read the Bible.
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If that's the case then you & few others on here must have it.
Not at all.

I'm not saying for one minute that you do have it, and I certainly wouldn't wish it on anyone.
But the fact is, there must be a reason why you ask questions on here, or post pictures/YouTube clips; get them answered, debate those answers and then, weeks, or months later, post the same thing again. You must know that people disagree with you and, in many cases, you have been proved to be wrong.
If you don't have a bad memory, what's the alternative? That you are doing deliberately to wind people up? That you want to get attention or a higher post count which might make you feel good for a while?

You will probably say that these are your beliefs and you want others to know the "truth". Considering the number of people who disagree with you and prove that you are mistaken - not only in your understanding of science but also your knowledge of Scripture - how's that going for you?

You haven't answered my post, #1,973. I'm guessing you can't.
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Fewer international tourists are visiting the U.S. — economic losses could be ‘staggering,’ researchers estimate

Someone being rude to me isn't going to prompt me to have a discussion with them.

Well, if it came off that way, I do apologize.

What I'm seeing from my end is that when confronted with evidence that contradicts your point, you change the subject and act like the evidence was never presented. Whether it was intentional or not, I see that quite a bit on these forums. I understand that its a politics forum, so that's par for the course. But the naive Christian in me somewhere deep down still expects better when it comes to dealing with other Christians.
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I must admit, the first couple of times you posted it I ignored it. But then I started looking up some of the references.
The thing's a joke and the person who produced it should be embarrassed that it just shows their inability to read Scripture and argue logically.

Really - I thought it was as a stroke if genius & I think Nathan Roberts understands Scripture perfectly well.
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So despite you having been shown it is rubbish, you intend to post it again and again in the hope that someone who hasn't seen it being debunked might fall for the deception. That shows despicable character.
I don't know what your moaning at, it's not been debunked in my book.
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Suspect in DC Ambush of 2 National Guardsmen Is Afghan National Who Entered US During Biden Admin

This is funny.
The article dates from (screenshot):
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Before Trump was even president. It dates from the Biden era.
other quotes from the article:
" WASHINGTON - Total violent crime for 2024 in the District of Columbia is down 35% from 2023 and is the lowest it has been in over 30 years"
Yes, under the Biden administration crime went down. Sans deployement of the National Guard.

"In addition to the overall violent crime reduction, homicides are down 32%; robberies are down 39%; armed carjackings are down 53%; assaults with a dangerous weapon are down 27% when compared with 2023 levels, with the District reporting the fewest assaults with dangerous weapons and burglaries in over 30 years."
Tell me how necessary it was to dispatch the NG.
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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

So you are a follower of Jesus' only good news, the Gospel of the Kingdom?
Yes, I am a born again Christian, in other words "a follower of the Lord Jesus". I thought that was obvious, or is your question loaded
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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

As were those Jesus was continually at odds with.
I knew I could rely on you to miss the pink elephant in the corner of the room. There's a slight but an important difference between my Pastor and the Pheresis, yes both are highly educated but they were highly indoctrinated with false doctrine or the "doctrine of demons". But my Pastor is highly educated in Theology.

So it's back to the drawing board for you, it seems you have a lot to learn
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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

Well, this would certainly explain why you can't answer simple questions about your beliefs on certain verses and how ours are taken out of context. Someone that has the truth as you claim would have easily been able to do so. But you can't.


Are you joking? We have posted scripture over and over and you continually ignore sound scripture. You've never once addressed any scripture I've posted. I'm a scripture person first and foremost. You are not. You mainly pass judgement and resort to insults.


You do realize we are supposed to test them? See if what they are stating can be supported? It's biblical to do so. The Bereans searched the scriptures daily. Were they being arrogant as well? Of course not. And we are told to test all things. We aren't told we need a degree first.

And it's good to question them as well. I grew up in a Baptist church that taught false doctrine. If you would rather follow man than God, so be it. I choose to put my faith in Him and his Word. Am I still learning? Of course as we all should be because the Word can open up at different times. And it's God that gives the increase.

Just because someone has a degree, does not mean they have the truth.




Funny how you post all of these verses and yet are still can't see the truth within them about life and death. There's a distinction. One has everlasting life and the other does not. You have to add to these verses to produce a doctrine. And we know the punishment for that. So again, we have to be very careful.

But in posting these verses you are in fact making our argument for us, not against us concerning life and death.
I can't answer questions which ae based on a false premise, it's like asking me how tall was the real Mickey Mouse and then mocking me for not answering an silly nonsensical question. That's absolutely ridiculous.

No, No, No, you've never posted a single verse to support your heretical theory that death means annihilation or cessation of existence, so please stop lying. You can't find any because they don't exist outside of your wild imagination.

The Berrien's were knew next to nothing compared to people like me, it was all new to them and they were amazed, ,so much so they had to check the scriptures to confirm what they heard was real. But I'm a born again Christian, who doesn't need to check anything because I know the truth of the gospel already.

So before you go checking to see if those things are so, how about you first join a bible class for beginners so you can at least learn the basics. Then you may be equipped to evaluate something.

There's no point in questioning anyone, until you know the truth. If you don't know the truth, then you don't know if someone is lying to you.
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Suspect in DC Ambush of 2 National Guardsmen Is Afghan National Who Entered US During Biden Admin

Even an infant
Luckily, I am not an infant anymore.

could have told Trump that those soldiers would have a target on their backs being deployed in that way.

Putting soldiers on a street makes them a target. Civilians invariably see them as an occupying force. Even when it’s their own troops.
That might be true "in general", but there is currently too little information available to claim that it is applicable here.
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There maybe new people on here who haven't seen it, so no I do not have dementia.
So despite you having been shown it is rubbish, you intend to post it again and again in the hope that someone who hasn't seen it being debunked might fall for the deception. That shows despicable character.
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