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Kiwi in Tokyo – what’s the view from your window this morning?
- By bob121
- The Kitchen Sink
- 4 Replies
Very nice contrast—modern human progress and those mighty mountains in the background. All of it shouts God’s handiwork: the city He lets us build and the un-movable peak He spoke into being. On a clear day Fuji reminds me He’s still the greater Architect. Thank you for sharing His glory from your window—have a wonderful day/night.
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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History
- By stevevw
- Physical & Life Sciences
- 1327 Replies
Once again this fixation on words and their meaning as creating the entire meaning of what someone says. Look at the word in its context. I stated this testing supported further testing which was the onsite tests.
I agreed it was a similation and thats what the word 'test' was referring to. Please read the 'word' in the context of the sentence they are written in.
Ok so I will apply the same logic to your claim. You objection holds not weight as its just a popular comment on a social media thread. I would rather believe the popular scientfic write-up than someones personal opinion on a social media thread.
But it was not just the popular science article that was making these claims was it. It was the actual scientists. Scientists (not the article) concluded the Pyramid may have been a gigantic resonator that was designed to trap electromagnetic waves.
I don't know, isnt that what the tests are for. The fact is they have found good theorectical reasons to do further tests. There have been a number of theorectical studies that tell us there is good reason.
Even if the Egyptians did not purposely build the pyramids for generating any effects. Its still worth the investigation by the fact that effects are theorised by the modelling. They claim this can teach us something. Your actually contradicting science now by denying the idea of persuing further investigation when the theory supports it.
But wait. Did not some of the tests happen on site in the pyramids.
Scientists blasted the 4,600-year-old structure with electromagnetic waves, a form of radiation that travel though the universe, finding it focused and amplified the energy into specific chambers and around the base.
But there was also actual tests done in the pyramids that show that it concentrated energy into the chambers. Its no longer theorectical.
The made a couple of assumptions and all science does. They did not just assume limestone. They also accounted for the pink granite in the chambers and shafts.
This stone has high piezoelectric effect under pressure. Its the position of the chambers, shafts and stones that generate the concentratede effect in the Kings chamber. The quartz crystals in pink granite is known for its high piezoelectric effect.
But its not just the stones. Its also the location of the pyramids themselves on a high electromagnetic location. Over a minreal rich natural subterrainian water way deposit. All this is not just some coincident and accident. The Egyptians were chemists and physicists as well in their own way.
As the scientists who did the research said and not popular science "Ancient Egyptians were the original--albeit unknowing--nanotechnologists."
Not that particular research but other research has establish the influence of the location on potential advanced knowledge of nature.
Development of Sulfuric Acid Speleogenetic Deposits within Cavernous Middle Eocene Beds: Inference on Hydrocarbon Gas Seepages, Giza Pyramids Plateau, Egypt
https://www.researchgate.net/public...rbon_Gas_Seepages_Giza_Pyramids_Plateau_Egypt
The Great Pyramid of Giza: A Modern View on Ancient Knowledge, Air and Fire – Part II
The Great Pyramid of Giza: A Modern View on Ancient Knowledge, Air and Fire – Part II | Ancient Origins
Why is it that skeptics are so eaher to minimise everything. They did way more than just test its shape. They were able tyo get new tech from it that can have real world effects.
Its become a a tool to deny scientific ideas that don't conform to the orthodoxy in some cases. Some ideas don't even get through the front door. They are deemed unreal before peer review. Some non peer review science has shown peer review as wrong.
But you do so without the same standards you demand of those proposing alternative ideas. You demand of them peer review while claiming them wrong wroung without peer review. Its double standards.
First the high Piezoelectric effect in granite has already been verified. So its logical that a concentration of granite in the chambers is going to cause a higher Piezoelectric effect. From memory the shafts were also granite. Its whether they knew this and made it so to concentrate the effect in the chambers. .
Experimental results of the piezoelectric activity of quartzose rocks
Electromagnetic Properties of Pyramids from Positions of Photonics
Electromagnetic Properties of Pyramids from Positions of Photonics - Russian Physics Journal
The choice of the operating wavelength of electromagnetic radiation is justified for a pyramid considered as an antenna. It is shown that due to the strong dispersion of the refractive index of the pyramid material, there will always be a part of the spectral range, in which the refractive index...
link.springer.com
Electromagnetic properties of the Great Pyramid: First multipole resonances and energy concentration
Thats what all the articles on the Piezoelectric effects of the pyramids are trying to find out.
Not sure if we are at the peer review stage yet. Still there is good science behind the idea.
The Overall Science behind the Pyramid
The generation of electricity requires the pyramid to vibrate always. Hence the location at which the electromagnetic waves are more on the surface of the globe are chosen to be the perfect sites for the pyramid. For example, the pyramid at Giza is standing on the underwater currents of the river Nile plus on a location where high electromagnetic flux lines can be measured and felt. This provides the vibrations required for the crystals to vibrate at all times. And Graphite rods are connected to the pyramid floors made of diamagnetic granites.[4] The figure below illustrates the ionic emission at the apex.
The Overall Science behind the Pyramid – IJERT
The Overall Science behind the Pyramid - written by K. S. Vishwanath Vashisht published on 2016/11/03 download full article with reference data and citations
www.ijert.org
Yes and when I show it its dismissed without the same level of peer review.
Here we go with word meanings. So if I find a word that means 'assurity' rather than suggest then logically that would mean the findings are definite.
So when the article says 'Barsoum (the lead scientists) 'the outer casing stones were indeed consistent with a reconstituted limestone'. The the word 'indeed' means they definitely found that the casing stones were made of reconsituted limestone.
What about "electron microscope analysis indicates the Egyptians used diatomaceous earth, a naturally occurring, commonly found soft sedimentary rock". Not (suggests) but definietly used diatomaceous earth in the mixture that was found in the samples of casing stones.
So more tests need to be done rather than dismiss it as conspiracy or psuedoscience.
I don't know. I think you would need way more stones tested to gather enough data to determine this.
Can you see the lip at the bottom as though the soft mixture spread into a gap between the blocks. This was not the result of grinding the block away to create a protruding lip. We see much evidence of this signature. I have linked them earlier. Why is it now you only recognise them.
Yes an advanced cement that is revealing an advanced tech that we are recognising 4,500 years later. The advanced knowledge keeps getting pushed back earlier and earlier.
Thats ok but like I said a social media platform is not a good place to make the case and especially make claims about existing peer review or even scientific reports or research that has been published. At least these make full article with the process linked out and tests done. I have not seen this yet and if I do then I will include it.
Because of the accumulation of data pointing that way. At the very least to do further investigation. You have to remember that these ideas and findings have only come in the past decade or so because the tech has improved. We are really only beginning to understand the level of knowledge and tech involved with the ancient Egyptians.
It depends. As shown there are a few in mainstream journals. There are a fair few Russian journals lol. But there are a fair few good scientfific papers that are not yet peer reviewed. But as a total I don;t think there are many articles done full stop. I don't think many have even been submitted at all.
Its still seen as fringe so it has a long way to go before being accepted by the mainstream. I think perhaps the area of natural energies may lead to more research into the Egyptians ancient worls as is happening now. We have a long history of seeing the pyramids as being something more than just a tomb. Now we have the tech to find out. Watch this space I reckon.
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B flat B♭
- By David Lamb
- Conspiracy Theories
- 1720 Replies
So why doesn't the sun appear to get smaller the further it passes from the observer? Where is the bottom half of the sun halfway through a sunset?It doesn't look as if the sun is moving across the sky, it actually does move across the sky & runs it's circuit.
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