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DaisyDay · 2025-12-06T10:11:28-0600

Factotum said:
Referencing Obama's war crimes or his controversial bombings, is not changing the topic.

It totally is. What aboutism.

Factotum said:
It is simply reminding some people of Presidential acts which they were okay with --as long as it isn't the Trump Admin doing the evil! lol

Yeah, like you know what the posters here are and were okay with. This smacks of projection.

Factotum said:
It's an efficient way to help people see their own hypocrisies and mea culpas.

Sure, baseless suppositions about what people you don't know think is ever so helpful and will surely cause people to see the error of their ways and mend their perception of Trump's inadequacies.

CLEEB · 2025-12-06T10:10:18-0600

PloverWing said:
This is what I see when I click the down-arrow under her profile picture:

View attachment 374072

Are you sure this doesn't work for you?

OK, I tried that and got what you did. Thank you for your help.

durangodawood · 2025-12-06T10:09:32-0600

If the facts dont support outrage, whats wrong with imagining an alternate story that does?

Truth is often too weak and slow for the task at hand.

CLEEB · 2025-12-06T10:08:28-0600

PloverWing said:
So, you say all churches are wrong, yet your profile lists you as "Christian". Do you belong to any church, or do you just live as a solitary Christian?

The Pentecost church was scattered to the four winds and I am one of the scattered. At the second advent Christ will gather what was scattered. “Christian“ is a label that most recognize but others are; sons of GOD, the saints, the called and chosen, the elect of GOD . GOD dwells in HIS people and they in HIM, not in temples made with hands. They are taught by GOD through the mediator Jesus Christ and have no need that any man should teach them. The anointing of the spirit is their teacher. They believe and speak the same things, there is no division. They are empowered by “agape“, GODS love to truly love GOD and neighbor. They do this not by command but by nature, the divine nature they partake of. They are one with GOD and Christ who have made their home with them. These scattered are for all intents and purposes invisible to the world that is under the sway of the wicked one. They fellowship with two or three of their brothers and sisters who are of like mind. They live peacefully and quietly as ambassadors of the kingdom on Earth and do not touch unclean things that are highly esteemed by men. No one can of themselves choose this church, GOD chooses them. I am not a solitary “Christian“ , there are others , but most of them I do not know, only those I directly fellowship with. I know this seems very strange to you and that you don’t believe it but I have answered your question.

iluvatar5150 · 2025-12-06T10:07:50-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Forget the autopen, now we have unelected bureaucrats determining who the president did and didn't pardon.

DOJ claims it has the power to decide who gets Trump’s sweeping 2020 pardon
The Justice Department is deciding who's covered by extremely vague pardons.

The pardon’s language is so vague and limitless that it could apply to thousands of people. And now Trump’s Justice Department says it’s up to Attorney General Pam Bondi and Pardon Attorney Ed Martin to decide who, and which possible crimes, Trump actually meant to cover.

There’s no modern precedent — and maybe no historical precedent, either — for a president to delegate his pardon power to subordinates on a pardon this vaguely worded.

Even past examples of blanket pardons, such as Andrew Johnson’s sweeping clemency after the Civil War, Jimmy Carter’s pardon for Vietnam-era draft dodgers and Joe Biden’s pardon for marijuana offenses relied on more explicit criteria.

The most comparable pardon, experts say, is Trump’s Inauguration Day pardon for the perpetrators of the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol — a pardon so vague that it spawned legal battles across the country about whether Jan. 6 defendants could apply it to crimes that had nothing to do with the riot.

Trump’s latest blanket pardon applies to “all United States citizens for conduct relating to the advice, creation, organization, execution, submission, support, voting, activities, participation in, or advocacy for or of any slate or proposed slate of Presidential electors … in connection with the 2020 Presidential election.” And while Trump identifies 77 recipients, he emphasizes that the pardon is not limited to the initial list. Trump then charges Bondi and Martin to issue pardon certificates to “eligible applicants.”

Pardon experts say this unusual delegation of pardon power is exacerbated by the vague language of the pardon itself, essentially leaving decisions about who’s covered to the judgment of Trump’s subordinates.

Oh, it'll be interesting to see this go to the current SCOTUS, who loves letting federal agencies exercise their own discretion. /s

Freth · 2025-12-06T10:07:41-0600

Lærke said:
How do we really know that we’re in the right denomination and does it really even matter what denomination unless they’re a cult obviously they’re wrong, but how do we know which one to follow, which one to go to or what church?

How do we really know that we're in the right denomination? The Bible answers this question.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Noticeably absent in this declaration is tradition. In fact, Jesus warned against tradition.

Matthew 15:3-6 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.

If tradition causes you to break the commandments of God, then it is making the commandments of none effect.

If the Bible teaches sound doctrine, then the Bible gives you everything you need to know. I suggest prayerfully reading the Bible, so that you know what the truth is. Only then can you determine what church is Biblical. Note that it isn't so much about personal preference as it is about whether or not a church is upholding the Biblical standard.

The internet is a great way to find out about the various denominations. Most church websites state their beliefs. Test them with scripture. Quite a few churches live stream their worship services on YouTube. Watch before attending.

There is a church out there for you.

DaisyDay · 2025-12-06T10:07:14-0600

Always in His Presence said:
Then why did the media 'correct' the report?

Which media where?

Always in His Presence said:
The Intercept? Really? How about if I retort with Brietbart?

I thought the prone to hallucinations AI was your preferred sourceless source. The Intercept is not perfect, "mostly factual" but you can check the specific allegations against other sources.

Is Sarah Harrison incorrect in her assertion? If so, how so?

Always in His Presence said:
Cold water? Average surface temp of 75-84?

Yeah, you're right. It's pretty balmy so close to the equator, but at the lower end of that range, hypothermia is a danger - the longer the submersion, the higher the danger.

Always in His Presence said:
and the puppies - don't forget the puppies drowning!

GoldenBoy89 · 2025-12-06T10:06:37-0600

stevevw said:
There you go then. All this jumping the gun stuff is typical of those who hate Trump and his admin. Lets just let all the facts come out.

What I find telling is that Trump haters are quite willing to crucify him and his admin at the drop of a hat making all sorts of crazy claims. Its their MO and its happened time and time again. They did it to Kirk and others. Attacked Musk and his business just because he was associated with Trump. Then they did it to Hegseth.

I don;t trust one word the legacy media and Trump haters say.

Why do you care so much if we like Trump? I don’t see what liking him has to do with holding this administration accountable to their actions. Do you believe Trump fans weren’t doing the same for Biden, Harris, Obama, Clinton?

iluvatar5150 · 2025-12-06T10:04:46-0600

rjs330 said:
We HAVE to have an HONEST conversation.

That would be nice, wouldn't it?

Islamism is the biggest and most deadly threat in the world today.

Well, that didn't last long.

They come and have no intention of assimilating. Instead they come and re-create that which they left. Separate communities, separate laws and separate schools. All under the religion of Islam.

I don't know why I still get flabbergasted at the ignorance and double standards you guys keep applying towards Muslims (and other immigrants).

First of all, most immigrants to this country, at any time, have established their own separate communities and tried to at least partly recreate what they left behind. Most big cities have their own immigrant enclaves like Little Italy, Chinatown, and Little Havana. Hacidic Jews have some in the NYC region; they even have one here in Baltimore, though it's not as neatly delineated as others.

The east coast is littered with cities, states, and towns named after places in Europe, often those their settlers left behind.

Moving beyond immigrants, evangelicals have long advocated for living somewhat removed from "worldly" society. They've got their own schools; often segregate into their own social circles, and have some of their own parallel media industries. More extreme than that, Amish and Mennonite communities have segregated themselves to a degree far beyond what most immigrants do. Amish teens are excommunicated for assimilating.

GoldenBoy89 · 2025-12-06T10:04:23-0600

stevevw said:
Yes it was.

No it wasn’t. World police is a term for a country that involves itself in the affairs of the rest of the world and seeks to dominate and control every other country towards its own interests.

stevevw said:
Australia very much depends on US alliance as we are not in a position to defend outselves from such evil doers.

Why don’t you use your military to blow up alleged drug traffickers in international waters?

essentialsaltes · 2025-12-06T10:03:24-0600

Always in His Presence said:
The President doing something lawful - good job Mr. Trump.

It is good simply because it is legal? What, in your own words, is good about firing these people?

Secondly, if this ruling holds, this means all future presidents will also have this power to politicize 'independent' agencies.

Factotum · 2025-12-06T10:00:45-0600

NxNW said:
The weaker your argument, the more you want to change the topic to Obama.

Referencing Obama's war crimes or his controversial bombings, is not changing the topic. It is simply reminding some people of Presidential acts which they were okay with --as long as it isn't the Trump Admin doing the evil! lol

It's an efficient way to help people see their own hypocrisies and mea culpas.

BlessedDisciple · 2025-12-06T10:00:27-0600

The words are from O Come, O Come, Emmanuel.

essentialsaltes · 2025-12-06T09:59:29-0600

Forget the autopen, now we have unelected bureaucrats determining who the president did and didn't pardon.

DOJ claims it has the power to decide who gets Trump’s sweeping 2020 pardon

The Justice Department is deciding who's covered by extremely vague pardons.

The pardon’s language is so vague and limitless that it could apply to thousands of people. And now Trump’s Justice Department says it’s up to Attorney General Pam Bondi and Pardon Attorney Ed Martin to decide who, and which possible crimes, Trump actually meant to cover.

There’s no modern precedent — and maybe no historical precedent, either — for a president to delegate his pardon power to subordinates on a pardon this vaguely worded.

Even past examples of blanket pardons, such as Andrew Johnson’s sweeping clemency after the Civil War, Jimmy Carter’s pardon for Vietnam-era draft dodgers and Joe Biden’s pardon for marijuana offenses relied on more explicit criteria.

The most comparable pardon, experts say, is Trump’s Inauguration Day pardon for the perpetrators of the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol — a pardon so vague that it spawned legal battles across the country about whether Jan. 6 defendants could apply it to crimes that had nothing to do with the riot.

Trump’s latest blanket pardon applies to “all United States citizens for conduct relating to the advice, creation, organization, execution, submission, support, voting, activities, participation in, or advocacy for or of any slate or proposed slate of Presidential electors … in connection with the 2020 Presidential election.” And while Trump identifies 77 recipients, he emphasizes that the pardon is not limited to the initial list. Trump then charges Bondi and Martin to issue pardon certificates to “eligible applicants.”

Pardon experts say this unusual delegation of pardon power is exacerbated by the vague language of the pardon itself, essentially leaving decisions about who’s covered to the judgment of Trump’s subordinates.

Nithavela · 2025-12-06T09:58:02-0600

comana said:
AI summaries are useless without accompanying sources.

Because of AI summaries, this place is no fun anymore.

Always in His Presence · 2025-12-06T09:56:07-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Trump can fire labor, employment board members without cause: Appeals court

President Donald Trump may remove members of the National Labor Relations Board and the Merit Systems Protection Board at will, a federal appeals court ruled.

The 2-1 decision from the Washington, D.C., Circuit Court of Appeals reverses prior rulings blocking Trump’s attempts to fire members of the key labor and employment panels.

The majority judges, who were both appointed by Trump, noted that they don’t address whether Congress can stop a president from removing members of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors.

“So, Congress cannot restrict the President’s ability to remove NLRB or MSPB members,” ruled Judges Gregory Katsas and Justin Walker, who were both appointed to the D.C. circuit by Trump.

The Trump administration is challenging the 90-year-old precedent set by Humphrey’s, which limits the president’s ability to unilaterally remove the heads of certain independent government agencies. The Supreme Court on Monday is set to hear oral arguments in a case that could determine whether Humphrey’s is overturned.

[Dissenting judge] “Under my colleagues’ reasoning, it appears that no independent agencies may lawfully exist in this country,” she wrote. “Their determination that the MSPB cannot be independent ... suggests that no agencies can be independent.”

The President doing something lawful - good job Mr. Trump.

Appeals court backs Trump’s firings of MSPB, NLRB members

A three-judge panel ruled Friday that President Donald Trump’s firings without cause of Cathy Harris and Gwynne Wilcox, Democratic members on the Merit Systems Protection Board and the National Labor Relations Board, were lawful.

The split 2-to-1 panel decision of the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals has no immediate effect, since both Harris and Wilcox’s firings were finalized in May. But Friday’s ruling comes as the Supreme Court is expected to soon hear arguments on whether to overturn a 90-year-old ruling known as Humphrey’s Executor — a decision that could expand Trump’s power to shape independent agencies.

“The NLRB and MSPB wield substantial powers that are both executive in nature and different from the powers that Humphrey’s Executor deemed to be merely quasi-legislative or quasi-judicial,” the judges wrote. “So, Congress cannot restrict the President’s ability to remove NLRB or MSPB members.”

Fervent · 2025-12-06T09:54:42-0600

Hentenza said:
I’ve posted the two that I remembered from memory. I can post more if you wish.

The issue is you're taking quotes out of context, so no amount of individual quotes can establish what you're attempting, especially since none of them claim that Scripture exhausts revelation or is wholly sufficient If they thought as much they wouldn't have written at all and would have simply sent Scripture quotes.

Hentenza said:
The scriptures were the foundational text by which all decisions were made. The councils were interpreters of scripture and none of their decisions (at least in the first seven councils) went against scripture. They considered the scriptures to be the rule of faith.

Not quite, the councils came about because there were people using the Scriptures to push heretical positions and so the ECFs decided they needed an official statement for what puts one on the outside of orthodoxy. If they thought Scripture was sufficient there would have been no need for a council.

Hentenza said:
I don’t consider scripture to be hostile to tradition. All churches have traditions. But I do consider scriptures to be the litmus test of tradition and therefor of higher authority. Here is how Athanasius of Alexandria describes scriptures.

The issue is your interpretation of Scripture treats church tradition as a separate authority, rather than recognizing the Scripture exists within the tradition even though it is the normative element of that tradition.

Hentenza said:
“These are fountains of salvation, that they who thirst may be satisfied with the living words they contain. In these alone is proclaimed the doctrine of godliness. Let no man add to these, neither let him take ought from these. For concerning these the Lord put to shame the Sadducees, and said, ‘Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures.’ And He reproved the Jews, saying, ‘Search the Scriptures, for these are they that testify of Me.’ (Festal Letter 39, 6–7)

None of that is contrary to what I've been saying

Hentenza said:
You have provided your opinion devoid of evidence or support. No challenge has been presented. You keep referring to texts but are yet to cite any or even merely refer to any as a point of discussion. We already know what Paul teaches.

We haven't progressed to the evidence phase because you've jumped on various threads and provided no response to my primary contention which is about theopneustos in 2 Tim 3:16

Factotum · 2025-12-06T09:54:01-0600

comana said:
AI summaries are useless without accompanying sources.

I dont think they agree with that principle, at msnbc... The View... CNN... Jimmy Kimmel... the DNC... the CBC... etc

NxNW · 2025-12-06T09:52:21-0600

Servus said:
Obama had a lot of people killed. Including the done strike on a wedding taking place.

The weaker your argument, the more you want to change the topic to Obama.

PloverWing · 2025-12-06T09:47:42-0600

CLEEB said:
I don’t think he or she wants their church affiliation known.

This is what I see when I click the down-arrow under her profile picture:

Are you sure this doesn't work for you?

Always in His Presence · 2025-12-06T09:47:12-0600

DaisyDay said:
We don't know whether the original accusation, i.e. "Kill them all", is not true or if the current denial is just a coverup.

Then why did the media 'correct' the report?

DaisyDay said:
Entire Chain of Command Could Be Held Liable for Killing Boat Strike Survivors, Sources Say

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s actions could spark investigations for war crimes or outright murder, sources told The Intercept.

theintercept.com

Sarah Harrison, who advised Pentagon policymakers on issues related to human rights and the law of war in her former role as associate general counsel at the Pentagon’s Office of General Counsel, International Affairs, said each strike creates potential legal liability for the entire chain of command involved in the attacks. “While the September 2 strike seems uniquely depraved, every single strike taken against these boats by DoD is a summary execution of criminal suspects, people who even if tried in court would never get the death penalty,” she told The Intercept. “Every single strike exposes those in the chain of command to the risk of criminal liability under murder statutes and international law prohibiting extrajudicial killings.”

The Intercept? Really? How about if I retort with Brietbart?

Nithavela said:
Apparently now calling for help when shipwrecked and floating in cold water is a hostile action.

Cold water? Average surface temp of 75-84?

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