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Belk · Oct 30, 2025

Hentenza said:
Not sure what you are asking me here. Please clarify.

I'm trying to interpret your explanation in a way that makes sense to me. The way your statement reads, it sounds to me like you are saying that these strikes are currently occurring in a legal grey area and that a court ruling is needed to clarify if the fall within the bounds of the law, or outside of those bounds. In other words that the legality is currently undefined and requires further judicial clarification before anyone can say if it is legal or not.

Hentenza · Oct 30, 2025

Apple Sky said:
Most of the bases are shown to to be near the edges except for two which appear to be further in on your map, which BTW is totally fabricated.

It is not fabricated at all. This is the actual map of Antarctica.

Mercy Shown · Oct 30, 2025

SabbathBlessings said:
Yes, we have to cooperate with God, not everyone does Rom8:7-8

I did perhaps it was missed

there is a death penalty for all of God's commandments. The wages of sin is death. They stoned adulterous and murderers in the OT as well under a theocracy where judgment came as God saw fit.

The fact that the Sabbath came with a death penalty should tell us something today because God does not change. He tells us why its so harmful Eze22:26

Now we are in the New Covenant and the judgment is still the same, the wages of sin is death Rom6:23 those who do not turn from their sins Pro28:13 John 3:19-21 and turn to Christ and be in Him, which means not continuing in sin, being converted in Christ walking a new path and believing and trusting in Him for everything including how to live, receive eternal life. Judgement now is the last day John 12:48 2 Cor5:10 we will all be accountable for what we do Ecc 12:13-14 James 2:11-12 Rev 22:14-15 Rev 11:18-19 Mat5:19-30

I think things are becoming a bit clearer. In your view God says, "love me or die." I guess if we did that with our own kids, we might have obedient children but I am not sure they would love us. It is a rather harsh view of God.

Mercy Shown · Oct 30, 2025

SabbathBlessings said:
Why do you keep plucking out the 4th commandment, there is a death penalty for all of God's commandments. The wages of sin is death. They stoned adulterous and murderers in the OT as well under a theocracy where judgment came as God saw fit.

Because we are discussing the Sabbath. Check out your screen name. So you are willing to jettison Exodus 35:2 Six days work shall be done, but on the seventh day you shall have a Sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on it shall be put to death. Because it was issued under a theocracy and yet declare Exodus 20:1-17, also issued under the same theocracy, as the binding upon God's people. How can you reconcle this.

SabbathBlessings said:
The fact that the Sabbath came with a death penalty should tell us something today because God does not change. He tells us why its so harmful Eze22:26

Now we are in the New Covenant and the judgment is still the same, the wages of sin is death Rom6:23 those who do not turn from their sins Pro28:13 John 3:19-21 and turn to Christ and be in Him, which means not continuing in sin, being converted in Christ walking a new path and believing and trusting in Him for everything including how to live, receive eternal life. Judgement now is the last day John 12:48 2 Cor5:10 we will all be accountable for what we do Ecc 12:13-14 James 2:11-12 Rev 22:14-15 Rev 11:18-19 Mat5:19-30

So you believe that God say love and obey me or I will kill you forever! That is the essence of what you are posting. I believe that was also the essence of the serpant's accusations in the garden.

bbbbbbb · Oct 30, 2025

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bbbbbbb · Oct 30, 2025

Practicing does not make perfect.

bbbbbbb · Oct 30, 2025

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Postvieww · Oct 30, 2025

GoldenBoy89 said:
That’s because you have low expectations for national leadership.

Better than no expectations as shown by many.

Mercy Shown · Oct 30, 2025

SabbathBlessings said:
A lot of conjecture so I am going to only address a couple things than I am going to move on.

No, Paul is misunderstood as is Romans 14 and Paul is not the way, Jesus is John 14:6

Of course because they way you understand it is true and righteous, where as the spiritual rubes around you are cluless. Such is our human hubris and yes, I suffer from that too but I have come to believe it is a sin that God is growing me out of.

SabbathBlessings said:
This should be our rules
Matthew 22:37–40, Mark 12:29–31

“Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.” This is the first and greatest commandment.
Love your neighbor as yourself.” This is the second commandment, and it is like the first.

Has it escaped you that Romans 14 is the second one of the royal law? It is a practical guide on loving your neighbour christian.

SabbathBlessings said:
These are the summary of the Ten Commandments

The first 4 how to love God the last 6 how to love others.

Really? A Manual on How to Love God? Do you really believe this approach? "How to Love God in Four Easy Steps" Of course if you broke any of these, you could be put to death. So is God saying love me or die.

1 John 4:19
“We love Him, because He first loved us.”

Romans 5:8
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”

We need a new heart to lve God and praise be to Him: He gives it to us.

Ezekiel 36:26–27
“A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you… and cause you to walk in my statutes.”

SabbathBlessings said:
If everyone was keeping these commandments the way Jesus taught Mat5:19-30 there would be no more sin in the world. There are no other commandments that do not fall under one of these categories as they are exceedingly broad Psa 119:165. Its the Testimony of God and sadly all I hear man do is try to tear them down

That is what you hear, but that is not what is being said. In a nut shell, what is being said is, "don't depend on them for your rigteousness or salvation." They are the fruit but not the tree.

SabbathBlessings said:
Quoting Scripture of what God people do is not judging. I never accused anyone personally of anything, but of we feel condemned by what God says, perhaps its time to make adjustments.

You are constantly implying that your interpretations are the correct ones, while others are "sadly" wrong.

Why do you not quote and support what God says here? (Exodus 31:14–15)

“You shall keep the Sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: everyone that defileth it shall surely be put to death; for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.”

stevevw · Oct 30, 2025

Hans Blaster said:
This did not happen in my lifetime and probably not in yours either, at least not in the US (the subject of the thread). The only thing that has changed is that there is less *presumption* that everyone else is also Christian. The "public square" did not directly promote Christianity in the 40+ years I can remember clearly. And there is *still* a significant deference to Christians in US society.

Then you don't understand how culture develops and changes. Its not a case of once there was the church and Christian norms and values and then next theres secular values and norms.

This is a long process, a gradual chipping away at the old and engineering the new beliefs and values according to a new foundation that is without God. It began with the 60's revolutions like the sexual revolution, womens liberation and feminism.

It moved into the institutions and became the critical theories which formed the basis for the new religion of Wokism and PC and Trans and DEI and all that which goes into making up the replacement values and beliefs that the church and Christianity once occupied. Do you think that a society can function without this belief and religion void being filled and replaced by an alternative one.

Hans Blaster said:
Which is not persecution or suppression of Christians.

Do you think the State can be biased against Christian beliefs and morals. Like we have seen with individuals and organisations being descriminated for their Christians beliefs. For example if a Christian organisation only wanted to adopt to traditional couples.

Hans Blaster said:
That is how it spread.

I don't care how it spread. People say all sorts of things but its not reality. I am asking you what the verse means. Are you saying that this means Christ supported taking up arms.

Hans Blaster said:
The thread is not about religion, but about politics.

Lol, its about commiting violence against opponents because they disagree. This is a moral issue and the most obvious connection to morality is religion. Is ethical systems or a belief about how the world should be ordered. Its fundementally the same as religious belief. Whatever belief system that replaces religion will act in everyway like that religion.

We see in in the ideology pushed which demand people say the right words, behave in a certain way, not associate with certain identities and be morally outraged over certain identities who hold the wrong beliefs. Everybit like a religion lol.

Hans Blaster said:
The US state is not aligned to religion and has not been.

Really. Do you remember Woke. It was very much like a religion. Still in in its other personificationsl. Humans are religious creatures and we cannot have a society without some form of religious basis for meaning and morality.

Sure looks like bending the knee to some higher authority that is about morality and how we should order society. We seen cancelations, deplatforming, people losing jobs for saying the wrong words, witch hunts and exposing people for little indiscretions decades ago, Mee Too, BLM, Celebs virtue signalling. Give me a break. Its all religious. Its just disguised as political correctness.

Hans Blaster said:
You have at best made an argument that politics are leading to violence, but not to the question of imbalance in the directionality of that violence.

Whats at the foundation of politics. Is this about morals or how we should order society and the world. The political became the personal and spiritual long ago. Thats why now according to many that simply holding the opposing view is enough to disown and wish harm on them. Thats more than politics.

Do you honestly think the rise in antisemetism, hate, division, violence is just politics. It seems more life and death than that. Like the enermy is satan himself and must be stopped otherwise democracy and the world will end lol.

Hans Blaster said:
You haven't.

I have lol. If you can just make two word claims so can I. We could go on and on if you want.

Hans Blaster said:
Then why are you arguing with me as you apparently disagree with the claim that "liberals" are more violent.

No your arguing with me because I mention that the Left is commiting violence. I said both sides commit violence and its the Left who are rising in the violence right now with their rhetoric and actions. You don't like that I pointed this out.

Hans Blaster said:
It didn't, but the understanding of American politics and current affairs you write here is very poor and the historical background you write is, if anything, worse. It is best we keep it to the near present.

This is still fallacious reasoning. It is common practice fullstop that we look at the history leading up to understand the present. Whether thats a culture or individual.

It cannot be wrong because it is actually Americans who are saying this. Expert analysis. But sometimes its also better that an independent outsider can give a more balanced view as they are not caught up in the biases of each side. We analysis the IRA situation and we learn from the history of how it got out of hand. We learn from the history of war. Well hopefully we do. But we constantly delve into the history of how it happened.

Hans Blaster said:
No, Steve, this isn't about my cynical view or distaste for your religion.

Hum when you give stereotypical and constant negative views I am not sure. Never a positive and always a negative.

Hans Blaster said:
When the RCC got caught hiding abusers there was condemnation in the public sphere, but there was no mass exodus from the pews. No glance at membership numbers or attendance counts will show the obvious signal of a mass rejection of active Catholics of their church when the truth became known. There was no rush to other churches or disconnection from religion. It is an undetectable effect on the slow and continuing decline of the Church in the US. When modern ex-Christians (particularly those who came of age after or during these revelations) indicate why they left, when there is a non-theological/belief reason, it is the Churches treatment/attitude of LGBT people, which wasn't a significant emphasis before the scandals. Abuse scandals in other church organizations also don't seem have impacted their adherents either, though there is less adherence to a specific sub-branch, so some smaller entities have been wrecked by scandals.

Even this explanation shows the lack of understanding and stereotypical ideas about religious belief. People did not rush to change religion because they did not blame the religion. You can't seem to fathom that despite the abuses this did not make the belief itself wrong. It just meant some bad actors breached their own religion.

You can't even contemplate that there were good people or that those who may have allowed this to happen can still be Christians and make amends and do better. You have to have a complete collapse to satify that they have learnt. Which shows the unreality of the way Christians are seen.

Hans Blaster said:
As for the "good people in Christianity" claim. No one is disputing it, nor is it relevant, or evidence of anything.

If then the majority of good then why would people abandon a good religion.

Hans Blaster said:
No Steve, it is you and your posts.

And water is wet. None of this says anything about violence, just how you'd like organized religion forced on society. I don't. I never have.

No one is saying there needs to be a religious forced society. That was tried years ago and failed. The point is whats come in its place is like a religious forced society while not having a religion. Its hypocracy to then call out bad religions from a place thats doing the same.

Why are people committing violence. Why are they morally outraged that they would want to destroy property or harm and even want the opponents cancelled. Is this not moral outrage. About right and wrong and good and evil. Thats all religion is. We are fundementally religious and moral creatures.

Hans Blaster said:
Summarized: "American culture is violent because it doesn't have enough Jesus."

No it does not have a unified belief in morality and how society and the world should be ordered. It is a battle or ideologies about morality and how the world is and should be ordered. That automatically brings religion and Christianity in. Listen to the rhetoric about Christian white nationalism being touted. If it wasn't about religion and Christianity the language sure sounds like it.

Hans Blaster said:
I can refute this easily by pointing out that American society clearly had *more* civil violence during the 1950s and 60s when Christian religiosity in the US was at a peak (and likely an all time historical peak).

Yes this was the other side of the coin. The abuses of the church and power. What we see today is the extreme end result of that. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. The church abused and it was rejected and pushed to the fringes. Then the new religious ideologies were cultivated to fill the void.

Hans Blaster said:
American society HAS NEVER BEEN UNIFIED on religion. Even when it was a few small colonies, those colonies (Plymouth and Virginia) had very different religious views.

Why did they put on their money, "in God we Trust" as a nation. There must have been a national consciousness about God in society and as a nation at one point to even consider this. Its more or less saying we trust God over money. God is the supreme being in Americans belief.

Did not the US like most other western nations only support traditional marriage, anti abortion and homosexuality, frowned on sex before marriage, teen pregnacies ect. Was this not based on Christian values. Now these have changed and are no longer the dominant norms. Did not Christianity spread from the cross into the Roman Empire and into the west to become the dominant belief as opposed to Islam or Hindu ect. Maybe I was living on another planet.

Hans Blaster said:
All religions and beliefs are not equal. Some are clearly worse than others (more harmful, less true). What *is* equal is the rights of persons in the US to *hold* those beliefs. That has not changed and I will not let it. Come to my country and worship whatever you want. I don't care. Try to force me or anyone else to join you, and I will oppose you.

Do you think that a society can realistically allow different beliefs and ideologies to co exist with equal rights. Won't one groups rights breach anothers in applying those rights.

For example say both the secular ideology and Christian belief were the basis for a new adoption agency. Each wanted equal status in using their beliefs as the basis for policy in adopting. Christians only adopting to traditional marriages and parents. Secular ideology having LGBTIQ+ friendly policies.

Do you think both would have the same rights to exist in the public square. Would each cause conflicts with each other and lead to division and trouble between them.

Hans Blaster said:
"be killed"? Seriously, get real dude.

Being killed is the extreme end. But certainly we have seen a glut of cancellations, lives destroyed witch hunts on those who have said the wrong thing or held the wrong beliefs. Its there is the real life situations.

After a decade or more of this cancellation mentality for just holding opposing beliefs its not a surprise that things are becoming violent. If people believe that someone is denying them their rights and freedoms and they believe the opposing view is a threat and hateful. What do you think the end result would be if people really believed that there was an imminent threat.

Hans Blaster said:
I learned about freedom at school and Jesus in CCD. There was no overlap. Jesus wants obedience, which is not "freedom".

Just more evidence of how outdated and stereotypical you views are on this.

Chesterton · Oct 30, 2025

Maria Billingsley said:
Lets suppose you actually feel that humans are worthless and weak , it appears that this particular AI is engaging in sycophancy with you.

Yes! The sycophancy is the best part!

Maria Billingsley said:
The risk of excessive reliance on AI stems from its capacity to provide highly tailored and immediately accessible engagement without the demands of human relationships. AI offers a predictable, non-judgmental feedback loop, which can feel intensely gratifying and personal, effectively creating a simulated social safety net. However, this consistency is a double-edged sword: it encourages the user to displace real-world social effort, leading to a decline in crucial social skills like conflict resolution, emotional resilience, and managing complexity. When an individual consistently chooses the perfectly aligned responses of an AI over the messy reality of human connection, they can develop a genuine emotional dependence or attachment to the simulation, which acts as an avoidance mechanism that ultimately exacerbates isolation and prevents genuine psychological and social growth—a pattern that aligns with the concept of unhealthy or abusive usage.

"...develop a genuine emotional dependence or attachment..."? What, just because I instructed Chat that it's an 18 year old Japanese schoolgirl named Bambi?

No, seriously, I don't have conversations the way I've heard some people online describe it. I don't even use persistent memory. I hop on and off to ask a question occasionally. It does the work that would take me much longer scrolling through search engine results, and I still might find no answer or only a partial answer.

You know how there are carrier pigeons? I think of AI as a super fast carrier spider. It crawls around the WW web, does the work for me, and (usually) brings me back what I want instantly.

BNR32FAN · Oct 30, 2025

Dan1988 said:
That's right, Genesis 6:5-6 doesn't say any such silly thing. Why are you obsessed with making stuff up. Don't you know that those who add or take away from Gods Word will suffer all of the plagues described in the book of Revelation. Yes that includes the lake of fire.

Where does it say that "God doesn't desire for man to sin",,,, answer NOWHERE!!!

Yet it says that God was grieved in His heart. Not only that but you also have Ezekiel 33:11 where God Himself says that He takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked and wants them to repent and live.

“Say to them, ‘As I live!’ declares the Lord God, ‘I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn back, turn back from your evil ways! Why then will you die, O house of Israel?’”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭33‬:‭11‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

So you can ignore these verses but the fact remains that they are scripture whether you accept them or not v

GoldenBoy89 · Oct 30, 2025

Postvieww said:
IMHO too many liberals are focusing on the wrong things. Trumps method of trolling gullible liberals is not the pressing problem of this nation. Democrat senators holding this nation hostage by not voting for the same CLEAN CR they voted for 13 times before all to get 1.5 trillion in new spending PART of which WILL pay for illegals health care. Part of which they claim is for subsidies for Obama care which they set to expire. Many liberal leaders endorsing a communist con man in New York is far more concerning than any of Trumps trolls. Liberal run cites have leaders fighting the rule of law by refusing to do their jobs and up hold federal law and federal law enforcement officers. We are now learning how bad the criminal Jack Smith was violating rights and laws by illegally spying on sitting Republican Senators and conservative organizations. I could go on and on but the liberal supporters on this forum will just have to forgive me for my lack of concern for Trumps trolling of gullible liberals.

That’s because you have low expectations for national leadership.

BNR32FAN · Oct 30, 2025

Dan1988 said:
You presented no evidence, I don't believe in those men you follow. I only follow the Lord Jesus, you can have those wise guys all to yourself

No you said that free will came from Gnosticism.

Dan1988 said:
Man has no free will, that's something the Gnostics conjured up, but there's nothing in the bible to support such a silly idea.

So show us where you got that information from?

And you claim that I didn’t provide any evidence of what the early church taught when I quoted an early church theologian who was a disciple of Polycarp who was a disciple of John. I don’t know maybe you’re confusing the definition of evidence with the definition of proof but they’re not the same thing.

Abraham1st · Oct 30, 2025

He sends a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles, and they shall know that He is the Lord.

So He makes HIS HOLY NAME TO BE KNOWN, IN THE MIDDLE OF HIS PEOPLE ISRAEL, and not let them pollute HIs holy name any more, and the heathen shall KNOW THAT HE IS THE LORD, the Holy One in Israel.

BEHOLD IT IS COME, AND IT IS DONE, SAYS THE LORD GOD, THIS IS THE DAY WHICH HE HAS SPOKEN OF.

They who dwell in the cities of Israel SHALL GO FORTH, (repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. Luke 24:47.) and shall set on fire and BURN THE WEAPONS, both the SHIELDS AND THE BUCKLERS, THE BOWS AND THE ARROWS, AND THE HANDSTAVES AND THE SPEARS, AND THEY SHALL BURN THEM WITH FIRE SEVEN YEARS. They shall take no wood, for they shall BURN THE WEAPONS WITH FIRE AND THEY SHALL SPOIL THOSE THAT SPOILED THEM. ( and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord God...
and in those times there shall many stand up, and the robbers of your people shall exalt themselves to establish the vision but they shall fall. Daniel 11:14)

Seven months the house of Israel shall be burying them, that they may cleanse the land.

ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE LAND SHALL BURY THEM, it shall be to them a RENOWN THE DAY THAT THE LORD SHALL BE GLORIFIED, SAYS THE LORD. (
Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? Luke 24:26.) they shall SEVERE OUT MEN OF CONTINUAL EMPLOYMENT, passing through the land to bury with the passengers THOSE THAT REMAIN UPON THE FACE OF THE EARTH TO CLEANSE IT, after the end of seven months SHALL THEY SEARCH.

Speak unto every feathered FOWL, AND TO EVERY BEAST OF THE FIELD, assemble themselves, and come gather yourselves on EVERY SIDE to his sacrifice that he does sacrifice for them, EVEN A GREAT SACRIFICE UPON THE MONTAINS OF ISRAEL, that they may EAT FLESH, and DRINK BLOOD, EAT the FLESH OF THE MIGHTY, and DRINK THE BLOOD OF THE PRINCES OF THE EARTH, of rams, of lambs, of goats, of bullocks, and you shall EAT TILL YOU ARE FULL, and DRINK BLOOD TILL YOU ARE DRUNKEN, of HIS SACRIFICE WHICH HE HAS SACRIFICED FOR THEM. That they be FILLED AT HIS TABLE, with horses and chariots, with mighty men and with ALL MEN OF WAR, says he Lord God.

He will SET HIS GLORY AMONG THE HEATHEN, and ALL THE HEATHEN SHALLSEE HIS JUDGEMENT THAT HE HAS EXECUTED, His hand that He has laid upon them, SO THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL SHALL KNOW THAT HE IS THE LORD THEIR GOD FROM THAT DAY AND FORWARD. ( Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. Acts 2:36.)

The heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity, because they trespassed against the Lord, therefore He hid His face from them, (And I will wait upon the Lord, that hides his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him. Isaiah 8:17.) according to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions He did unto them, and hid HIs face from them.

Therefore thus says the Lord, NIOW WILL HE BRING AGAIN THE CAPTIVITY OF JACOB, and have MERCY, upon the WHILE HOUSE OF ISRAEL, and will be jealous for HIS HOLY NAME. When He has brought them form the people, and gathered them from their ENEMIES LANDS, and is SANCTIFIED IN THEM IN THE SIGHT OF THE HEATHEN, then shall they know that He is the Lord their God, which CAUSED THEM TO BE LED INTO CAPTIVITY AMONG THE HEATHEN, BUT HE HAS GATHERED THEM UNTO TEIR OWN LAND, AND HAS LEFT NONE OF THEM ANY MORE THERE.

NEITHER WILL HE HIDE HIS FACE ANY MORE FROM THEM, FOR H HAS POURED OUT OF HIS SPIRIT UPON THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL, SAYS THE LORD GOD.

Ezekiel 39:6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the Lord.
7 So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the Lord, the Holy One in Israel.
8 Behold, it is come, and it is done, saith the Lord God; this is the day whereof I have spoken.
9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:
10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord God.

Ezekiel 39:12 And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land.
13 Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord God.
14 And they shall sever out men of continual employment, passing through the land to bury with the passengers those that remain upon the face of the earth, to cleanse it: after the end of seven months shall they search.

Ezekiel 39:17 And, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord God; Speak unto every feathered fowl, and to every beast of the field, Assemble yourselves, and come; gather yourselves on every side to my sacrifice that I do sacrifice for you, even a great sacrifice upon the mountains of Israel, that ye may eat flesh, and drink blood.
18 Ye shall eat the flesh of the mighty, and drink the blood of the princes of the earth, of rams, of lambs, and of goats, of bullocks, all of them fatlings of Bashan.
19 And ye shall eat fat till ye be full, and drink blood till ye be drunken, of my sacrifice which I have sacrificed for you.
20 Thus ye shall be filled at my table with horses and chariots, with mighty men, and with all men of war, saith the Lord God.
21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.
22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the Lord their God from that day and forward.
23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.
24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.
25 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;
26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.
27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
28 Then shall they know that I am the Lord their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.

Ezekiel 39:29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord God.

IT SHALL COME TO PASS IN THE LAST DAYS SAYS GOD, HE WLL POUR OUT OF HIS SPIRIT UPON ALL FLESH, AND ON HIS SERVANTS AND ON HIS HANDMAIDENS WILL HE POUR OUT IN THOSE DAYS OF HIS SPIRIT AND THEY SHALL PROPHSY.

Peter saw HEAVEN OPENED, a vessel descended upon him, a great sheet knit at FOUR CORNERS, and LET DOWN TO THE EARTH, in it where all manner of four footed BEASTS OF THE EARTH, WILD BEASTS, and CREEPING THINGS, and FOWLS OF THE AIR. and a voice, kill and eat.

Peter said no Lord, for nothing COMMON OR UNCLEAN WAS EVER EATEN BY HIM.

The voice spoke again the second time, WHAT GOD HAS CLEANSED, DO NOT CALL COMMON. THIS WAS DONE THREE TIMES AND RTH VESSEL RECEIVED UP AGAIN IN TO HEAVEN.

Touching the GENTILES WHICH BELIEVE, we have written unto them to OBSERVE NO SUCH THING, as circumcision, only to keep themselves from things offered unto idols, and FROM BLOOD, and from strangled, and from fornication.

Joel 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

Acts 2:16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

Acts 10:11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
16 This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.

Acts 21:25 As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.

A VOICE FROM HEAVEN, saying come out of her my people, her sins have REACHED UNTO HEAVEN, REWARD HER EVEN AS SHE REWARDED YOU.

I SAW AN ANGEL STANDING IN THE SUN, and he CRIED WITH A LOUD VOICE, saying to ALL THE FOWLS THAT FLY IN THE MIDDLE OF HEAVEN, COME, AND GAHER THEMSELVES TOGETHER, UNTO THE SUPER OF THE GREAT GOD.

Eat the flesh of kings and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and of them that sit on them, and the FLESH OFALL MEN.

I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies, GATHERED TOGETHER to MAKE WAR AGANST HIM THAT SAT ON THE HORSE, and against HIS ARMY, the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet, which had deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and worshipped his image, they were cast into the lake of fire burning with brimstone. The remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword PROCEEDS OUT OF HIS MOUTH, and the FOWLS WERE FILLED WITH THEIR FLESH.

Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

Revelation 18:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

AFTER THESE THINGS a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:, true and righteous are his judgments: for he has JUDGED the great harlot, WHICH DID CORRUPT THE EARTH with her fornication, AND HAS AVENGED THE BLOOD OF HIS SERVANTS AT HER HAND.

When the thousand years are expired, satan shall be loosened out of his prison, and shall go out to DECEIVE THE NATIONS WHICH ARE IN THE FOUR QUARTERS OF THE EARTH, GOG AND MAGOG, to GATHER THEM TOGETHER TO BATTLE, they went up on the BREADTH OF THE EARTH, and compassed THE CAMP OF THE SAINTS ABOUT,, and the beloved city, and FIRE CAME DOWN FROM GOD OUT OF HEAVEN AND DEVOURED THEM. The devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, WHERE THE BEAST AND FALSE PROPHET ARE, and shall be tormented day and night FOR EVER.

Revelation 19:1And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:
2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great harlot, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.
3 And again they said, Alleluia And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.
4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.
5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.
6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

locust · Oct 30, 2025

Unqualified said:
IR- Infrared?

yep

Abraham1st · Oct 30, 2025

Praise Him all you ANGELS.

Praise Him YOU sun and moon and stars OF LIGHT.

Praise Him you heaven of heavens and you WATERS that are ABOVE THE HEAVENS.

Let them praise Him for He commanded and they were created.

He has also ESTABLISHED them FOR EVER AND EVER, He has made a decree WHICH SHALL NOT PASS.

Praise the Lord from the earth you dragons, and all deeps, FIRE AND HAIL SNOW AND VAPOURS, STORMY WIND FULFILLING HIS WORD.

MOUNTAINS and ALL HILLS, FRUITFUL trees, BEASTS AND ALL CATTLE, CREEPING THINGS AND FLYING FOWL, KINGS of the earth and ALL PEOPLE, let them praise the name of the Lord, FOR HIS NAME ALONE IS EXCELLENT, HIs glory is ABOVE THE EARTH AND THE HEAVENS.

He ALSO EXALTS THE HORN OF HIS PEOPLE, the PRAISE OF ALL HIS SAINTS, the children of Israel, a people near unto Him. Praise you the Lord.

Psalm 148:1 Praise ye the Lord. Praise ye the Lord from the heavens: praise him in the heights.
2 Praise ye him, all his angels: praise ye him, all his hosts.
3 Praise ye him, sun and moon: praise him, all ye stars of light.
4 Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens.
5 Let them praise the name of the Lord: for he commanded, and they were created.
6 He hath also stablished them for ever and ever: he hath made a decree which shall not pass.
7 Praise the Lord from the earth, ye dragons, and all deeps:
8 Fire, and hail; snow, and vapours; stormy wind fulfilling his word:
9 Mountains, and all hills; fruitful trees, and all cedars:
10 Beasts, and all cattle; creeping things, and flying fowl:
11 Kings of the earth, and all people; princes, and all judges of the earth:
12 Both young men, and maidens; old men, and children:
13 Let them praise the name of the Lord: for his name alone is excellent; his glory is above the earth and heaven.
14 He also exalteth the horn of his people, the praise of all his saints; even of the children of Israel, a people near unto him. Praise ye the Lord.

I said in my heart, that GOD MIHT MANIFEST THEM, and that they might see that THEY THEMSELVES ARE BEASTS, that which happens to the sons of men happens to beasts, even one thing happens, as the one dies, so the other dies, yes they all have ONE BREATH, a man has no advantage over a beast, all go unto on place, ALL ARE OF THE DUST, AND ALL TURN TO DUST AGAIN.

Ecclesiastes 3:18 I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.
19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.
20 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.
21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?

God visited upon Israel the days of baalim, where she decked herself with her earrings and her jewels, and went after her lovers, and forget God, said the Lord.

BEHOLD, He will allure her, and bring her into the WILDERNESS, and speak COMFORTABLY unto her.

He will give her vineyards and the valley of Achor for a DOOR OF HOPE, and SHE SHALL SING THERE, as in the days of her youth WHEN SHE CAME UP OUT OF THE LAND OF EGYPT.

He will take away the names of baalim out of her moth IN THAT DAY, and they shall NO MORE BE REMEMBERED BY THEIR NAME.( you shall CALL ME ISHI.)

IN THAT DAY, I will MAKE A COVENANT WITH THEM, WITH THE BEASTS OF THE FIELD, AND WITH THE FOWLS OF HEAVEN, AND WITH THE CREEPING THINGS, OF THE GROUND, and I will BREAK THE BOW, and the sword and the battle OUT OF THE EARTH, and will make them to LIE DOWN IN SAFETY.

He will betroth them unto Him FOR EVER, betrothed IN RIGHTEOUSNESS AND IN JUDGEMENT AND IN LOVINGKINDNESS AND IN MRCIES, HE WLL EVEN BETROTH THEM UNTO HIM INF ASITHFULNESS, and we shall know the Lord.

It shall come to pass IN THAT DAY, that He WILL HEAR, said the Lord, HE WLL HEAR THE HEAVENS AND THEY SHALL HEAR THE EARTH, and the earth shall hear the CORN AND THE WINE AND THE OIL, and THEY SHALL HEAR JEZREEL.

He will SOW HER UNTO HIM IN THE EARTH, and will have mercy on her that HAD NOT OBTAINED MERCY, and wll say to them WHICH WERE NOT HIS PEOPLE, you are my people, and they shall say, you are my God.

The Lord said unto her, she shall abide MANY DAYS WITHOUT A KING, AND WITHOUT A PRINCE AND WITHOUT A SACRIFICE. afterward the children of Israel SHALL RETUREN AND SEEK THE LORD THEIR GOD, and David their king, and shall fear the Lord and HIs GOODNESS IN THE LATTER DAYS. ( God said unto her to abide many days for Him, and to not play the harlot, not be for another man, then He will be for her.)

Hosea 2:13 And I will visit upon her the days of Baalim, wherein she burned incense to them, and she decked herself with her earrings and her jewels, and she went after her lovers, and forgat me, saith the Lord.
14 Therefore, behold, I will allure her, and bring her into the wilderness, and speak comfortably unto her.

Hosea 2:15 And I will give her her vineyards from thence, and the valley of Achor for a door of hope: and she shall sing there, as in the days of her youth, and as in the day when she came up out of the land of Egypt.

Hosea 2:16 And it shall be at that day, saith the Lord, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali.
17 For I will take away the names of Baalim out of her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name.

Hosea 2:18 And in that day will I make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field and with the fowls of heaven, and with the creeping things of the ground: and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the earth, and will make them to lie down safely.

Hosea 2:19 And I will betroth thee unto me for ever; yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment, and in lovingkindness, and in mercies.
20 I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness: and thou shalt know the Lord.

Hosea 2:21 And it shall come to pass in that day, I will hear, saith the Lord, I will hear the heavens, and they shall hear the earth;
22 And the earth shall hear the corn, and the wine, and the oil; and they shall hear Jezreel.

Hosea 2:23 And I will sow her unto me in the earth; and I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; and they shall say, Thou art my God.

Hosea 3:3 And I said unto her, Thou shalt abide for me many days; thou shalt not play the harlot, and thou shalt not be for another man: so will I also be for thee.
4 For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king, and without a prince, and without a sacrifice, and without an image, and without an ephod, and without teraphim:
5 Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the Lord their God, and David their king; and shall fear the Lord and his goodness in the latter days.

This said the Lord, are you him of who He spoke of, by His servants the prophets of Israel in od time, that He would bring them against them. God said it shall come to pass AT THE SAME TIME, when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, that HIs fury shall come up in HIs face, said the Lord.

In the fire of HIs wrath He has spoken, that SURELY IN THAT DAY, there shall be a GREAT SHAKING IN THE LAND OF ISRAEL. The fishes of the sea, and the FOWLS OF THE HEAVEN, and the BEASTS OF THE FIELD, and ALL CREEPING THINGS THAT CREEP UPON THE EARTH, and ALL THE MEN THAT ARE UPON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, shall SHAKE AT HIS PRESENSE, and the MOUNTAINS SHALL BE THROWN DOWN.

HE WILL CALL FOR A SWORD AGAINST HIM THROUGHOUT ALL HIS MOUNTAINS, says the Lord, EVERY MANS SWORD SHALL BE AGAINST HIS BROTHER.

And I WILL PLEAD AGANST HIM with pestilence and with blood; and I WILL RAIN UPN HIM,, and upon his bands, and UPON THE MANY PEOPLE WITH HIM, an OVERFLOWING RAIN, and GREAT HAILSTONES, FIE, AND BRINSTONE.

Thus will I magnify myself, and SANCTIFY MYSELF; and I will be KNOWN IN THE EYES of MANY NATIONS, and they shall know that I am the Lord.

(For by fire and by his sword will the Lord plead with all flesh: and the slain of the Lord shall be many. Isaiah 66:16)

(Israel said it had made a COVENANGT WITH DEATH, at HELL they are at AGREEMENT, that when the OVERFLOWING scourge shall pass through it shall not come near unto them, for they have MADE LIES THEIR REFUGE, under FALSEHOOD, they have HID THEMSELVES.)

(The Lord God said, BEHOLD, He lays in Zion for a FOUNDATION A STONE, a TRIED STONE, a PRECIOUS CORNER STONE, a SURE FOUNDATION, he that BELIEVES SHALL NOT MAKE HASTE.)

(Judgement He makes to the line, and righteousness to the plummet, and the HAIL SHALL SWEEP AWAY THE REFUGE OF LIES, and the WATERS shall OVERFLOW THE HIDING PLACE.)

(Their COVENANT WITH DEATH SHALL BE DISANNULLED and their agreement with HELL SHALL NOT STAND, when the OVERFLOWING SCOURGE SHALL PASS THROUGH, they shall be TRODDEN DOWN BY IT.....For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof. Hebrews 7:18)

(A noise shall come even to the ends of the earth; for the Lord hath a controversy with the nations, he will plead with all flesh; he will give them that are wicked to the sword, saith the Lord. Jeremiah 25:31.)

(And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. John 17:19)

( I am come to send fire on the earth. I have a baptism to be baptized with, He says He is not straightened until it is accomplished. He says, I am come not to give peace on earth. I tell you, He says, He is come to give division: from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. Luke 12:49-52)

Isaiah 28:15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:
16 Therefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.
17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.
18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.

Ezekiel 38:17 Thus saith the Lord God; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them?
18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord God, that my fury shall come up in my face.

Ezekiel 38:19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;
20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.

Ezekiel 38:21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord God: every man's sword shall be against his brother.
22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.

Ezekiel 38:23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the Lord.

Abraham1st · Oct 30, 2025

God brought the flood upon the earth to destroy ALL FLESH wherein is the BREATH OF LIFE, from under heaven, everything that is in the earth shall die.

But with Noah God would establish HIs covenant, and Noah with his wife and sons and their wives came into the ark, and of every living thing of all flesh, into the ark to keep them alive with Noah, fowls of their kind, cattle of their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind.

God tells Noah to take food of all that is eaten unto him, to gather it unto him, and it shall be for food for Noah and for them. Noah did according to all that God commanded him.

Genesis 6:17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.
18 But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee.
19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.
20 Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive.

Genesis 6:21 And take thou unto thee of all food that is eaten, and thou shalt gather it to thee; and it shall be for food for thee, and for them.
22 Thus did Noah; according to all that God commanded him, so did he.

THE WATERS PREVAILED AND THE MOUNTAINS WERE COVERED.

Genesis 7:20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

God blessed Noah and his sons and said for them to be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth, and the fear of them shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moves upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the se, they are delivered into their hands.

EVERY MOVING THNG THAT LIVES SHALL BE MEAT FOR THEM, but the flesh with the life, the blood, they shall not eat.

God tells that whosoever sheds mans blood, his blood shall be shed, for in the image of God man was made.

Genesis 9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.
6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

God speaks to Noah and his sons, to behold, He establishes HIs covenant with them, and with their seed after them, and WITH EVERY LIVING CREATURE THAT IS WITH THEM, of the FOWL, of the CATTLE, and of EVERY BEAST OF THE EARTH, with them, from ALL THAT GO OUT OF THE ARK.

God said He will establish HIs covenant with them, neither shall ALL FLESH BE CUT OFF ANY MORE by the waters of a flood, to destroy the earth,

and God said, this is the TOKEN OF THE COVENANT which He makes between Him and them and every living creature that is with them for all generations, He sets HIs bow IN THE CLOUD, for a token of a covenant between GOD AND THE EARTH, it shall come to pass that when He vrings a cloud over the earth, the bow shall be seen in the CLOUD, and He will remember HIs covenant, which is between Him and them and EVERY LIVING CREATURE OF ALL FLESH, so the waters no more become a flood to DESTROY ALL FLESH.

The bow shall be IN THE CLOUD, AND HE SHALL LOOK UPON IT, that He may remember the EVERLASTING COVENANT BETWEEN GOD AND EVERY LIVING CREATURE OF ALL FLESH THAT IS UPON EARTH.

God said unto Noah, this is the token of the covenant, which He has ESTABLISHED, between Him and ALL FLESH THAT IS UPON THE EARTH.

Genesis 9:8 And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying,
9 And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you;
10 And with every living creature that is with you, of the fowl, of the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that go out of the ark, to every beast of the earth.
11 And I will establish my covenant with you, neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.
12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:
13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.
16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.
17 And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.

Noah plants a vineyard, drinks of the WINE, and his younger son sees his fathers nakedness, Noah blesses his sons that covered their eyes and sets a curse on the son who did not.

Genesis 9:20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

God tells the children of Israel to sanctify themselves, and to be holy, for He is holy, and to not defile themselves any more with any manner of creeping thing

For He is the Lord God that brought them up out of Egypt, to be their God. They therefore shall be holy, for He is holy.

God gives the men of Israel the LAW OF THE BEASTS, and OF THE FOWL, and of every living creature that moves in the waters, and of EVERY CREEPING THING THAT CREEPS UPON THE EARTH, to MAKE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE UNCLEAN AND THE CLEAN, between the BEAST that may be eaten, and the BEAST that may not.

Leviticus 11:44 For I am the Lord your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
45 For I am the Lord that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I am holy.
46 This is the law of the beasts, and of the fowl, and of every living creature that moveth in the waters, and of every creature that creepeth upon the earth:
47 To make a difference between the unclean and the clean, and between the beast that may be eaten and the beast that may not be eaten.

The Lord who laid the beams of HIs chambers in the waters, who makes the CLOUDS His chariot, who WALKS UPON THE WINGS OF THE WIND.

The Lord who makes HIs angels spirits, HIs ministers a flaming fire.

Who layed the foundations of the earth, to not be removed forever, and covered it with the deep, THE WATERS STOOD ABOVE THE MOUNTAINS, at HIs rebuke THEY FLED, at the VOICE OF HIS THUNDER, they HASTED AWAY.

They go up by the mountains, they go down by the valleys, unto the place which He has FOUNDED FOR THEM, He has set a bound, THAT THEY MAY NOT PASS OVER, THAT THEY TURN NOT AGAIN TO COVER THE EARTH.

He sends the springs into the valleys, which run among the hills, they GIVE DRINK TO EVERY BEAST OF THE FIELD.

BY THEM SHALL THE FOWLS OF THE HEAVEN have their habitation, which SING AMONG THE BRANCHES.

He waters the hills from HIs chambers, the EARTH IS SATISFIED WITH THE FRUIT OF HIS WORK.

He CAUSES the GRASS TO GROW, for the CATTLE, and herb FOR THE SERVICE OF MAN, that he may BRING FOOD OUT OF THE EARTH, and WINE, that makes the heart of man glad, oil to make HIS FACE SHINE, and BREAD, which STRENGTHENS MANS HEART.

Hebrews 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

Psalm 104:3 Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind:

Psalm 104:4 Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:

Psalm 104:5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.
6 Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains.
7 At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away.
8 They go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys unto the place which thou hast founded for them.
9 Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth.
10 He sendeth the springs into the valleys, which run among the hills.
11 They give drink to every beast of the field: the wild asses quench their thirst.
12 By them shall the fowls of the heaven have their habitation, which sing among the branches.
13 He watereth the hills from his chambers: the earth is satisfied with the fruit of thy works.
14 He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth;
15 And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart.

God makes DARKNESS and it is NIGHT, where all the BEASTS o the forest do CREEP FORTH.

The YOUNG LIONS roar after their pray, and SEEK THEIR MEAT FROM GOD.

The SUN ARISES, and they gather together and lay down in their dens.

MAN goes to his work, to his labour, UNTIL THE EVENING.

O Lord how MANIFOLD ARE YOUR WORKS, IN WISDOM YOU HAVE MADE THEM ALL, THE EARTH IS FULL OF HIS RICHES.

This great and wide sea, in it are thigs creeping innumerable, the ships go there, there is that LEVIATHON, who the Lord made to PLAY THERE.

THESE ALL WAIT UPON YOU THAT YOU MAY GIVE THEM THEIR MEAT IN DUE SEASON.

He gives it to them and thy gather, He opens HIs hand and fills them with good, He hides HIs face, and they are troubled, He TAKES AWAY THEIR BREATH, THEY DIE, and RETURN TO THEIR DUST.

He SENDS FORTH HIS SPIRIT, THEY ARE CREATED, and He RENEWS THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

The GLORY OF THE LORD SHALL ENDURE FOR EVER, THE LORD SHALL REJOICE IN HIS WORKS.

I WILL SING UNTO THE LORD AS LONG AS I LIVE, I WILL SING PRAISE TO MY GOD WHILE I HAVE MY BEING.

My MEDITATION of Him shall be SWEET, I will be GLAD IN THE LORD.

LET THE SINNERS BE CONSUMED OUT OF THE EARTH, AND LET THE WICKED BE NO MORE. Bless you the Lord, O my soul. Praise you the Lord.

Psalm 104:20 Thou makest darkness, and it is night: wherein all the beasts of the forest do creep forth.
21 The young lions roar after their prey, and seek their meat from God.
22 The sun ariseth, they gather themselves together, and lay them down in their dens.
23 Man goeth forth unto his work and to his labour until the evening.
24 O Lord, how manifold are thy works! in wisdom hast thou made them all: the earth is full of thy riches.
25 So is this great and wide sea, wherein are things creeping innumerable, both small and great beasts.
26 There go the ships: there is that leviathan, whom thou hast made to play therein.
27 These wait all upon thee; that thou mayest give them their meat in due season.
28 That thou givest them they gather: thou openest thine hand, they are filled with good.
29 Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled: thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust.
30 Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.
31 The glory of the Lord shall endure for ever: the Lord shall rejoice in his works.
32 He looketh on the earth, and it trembleth: he toucheth the hills, and they smoke.

Psalm 104:33 I will sing unto the Lord as long as I live: I will sing praise to my God while I have my being.
34 My meditation of him shall be sweet: I will be glad in the Lord.
35 Let the sinners be consumed out of the earth, and let the wicked be no more. Bless thou the Lord, O my soul. Praise ye the Lord.

Mercy Shown · Oct 30, 2025

Carl Emerson said:
Departing from the plain reading of Scripture and presenting a cacophony of references doth not Truth make.

I wonder why they never quote this text?

Death Penalty (Exodus 31:14–15)

“You shall keep the Sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: everyone that defileth it shall surely be put to death; for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.”

BNR32FAN · Oct 30, 2025

Dan1988 said:
What's with the false accusations, where did you get the notion that I follow some 16th century theologians. I'd be interested to know, who lied to you and why you believe what slanderers say.

Yeah, it’s called Calvinism and reformed theology for a reason, because they didn’t exist before the 16th century. So how is that a false accusation? I mean unload you can show a church that taught it before the 16th century.

Mercy Shown · Oct 30, 2025

SabbathBlessings said:
Its a matter of not understanding the 4th commandment.

This must be because your way of understanding it is the only true and correct way. This is a failing of the human heart.

SabbathBlessings said:
We should worship God 365 24/7 I read my Bible and pray daily, but that doesn't mean we do not keep the 4th commandment.

The 4th commandment is not just the commandment for the Sabbath day, its a commandment for all days.

Exo 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

God understands we need to pay bills, clean house, go to work, workout, sports activities, gardening, laundry, or whatever other secular activities we do. He only asks for 1 day back and was specific what day that is but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God.

The Sabbath God commanded, not suggested, we cease our work and labors so we can keep the entire day Holy

“Isa 58:13 If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath,
From doing your pleasure on My holy day,
And call the Sabbath a delight,
The holy day of the Lord honorable,
And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways,
Nor finding your own pleasure,
Nor speaking your own words,

Its best to let God be God and do what He asks because we trust that He knows what's best for us. If everyone kept Sabbath 24/7 365 the way God asked, we would all starve and be dead. Why He asked just for one day, the seventh day, sanctified just one day, the seventh day, but sadly that's too much for many.

So are you really willing to "Let God be God?" As you concieve of him? Are you really going to advocate for the fourth commandment from the book of Exodus, a time under the old covanent? Are you truly prepared to do all God commands about the sabbath or are you just going to do parts you approve of and ignore the ones you don't.

You give quotes but are they just select ones? Lets really see if you endorse all of God's law or just parts.

Death Penalty (Exodus 31:14–15)
“You shall keep the Sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: everyone that defileth it shall surely be put to death; for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.”

fhansen · Oct 30, 2025

Dan1988 said:
Sorry, but the Bible does not support your view that "we must do this or that, in order to be saved". The Bible never ever says this anywhere.

No, you’ve simply summarily rejected any passage that says otherwise.

Maria Billingsley · Oct 30, 2025

Chesterton said:
I don't post a whole lot here, but I like this sub-forum. I'm no kind of scientist, but a couple or few times a year, a science-related question will arise in my mind that I don't know the answer to, so I'll create a thread asking about it in this forum. Or maybe make a thread about a topic that I think would be interesting to discuss.

But these days, when I think of a question or topic, my immediate thought is "go ask Chat or Grok" (I've grown tired of typing the uppercase GPT).

I guess what I'm trying to say is, I don't need you guys anymore! Compared to AI you're all worthless and weak! You won't have Chesterton to kick around any more!

Thoughts?

EDIT: I just remembered that I suffer from mind-numbing, soul-crushing loneliness, so I'll probably stick around here.

Lets suppose you actually feel that humans are worthless and weak

, it appears that this particular AI is engaging in sycophancy with you. So I asked a different AI about this issue and, well, here we go.......
Be blessed

The risk of excessive reliance on AI stems from its capacity to provide highly tailored and immediately accessible engagement without the demands of human relationships. AI offers a predictable, non-judgmental feedback loop, which can feel intensely gratifying and personal, effectively creating a simulated social safety net. However, this consistency is a double-edged sword: it encourages the user to displace real-world social effort, leading to a decline in crucial social skills like conflict resolution, emotional resilience, and managing complexity. When an individual consistently chooses the perfectly aligned responses of an AI over the messy reality of human connection, they can develop a genuine emotional dependence or attachment to the simulation, which acts as an avoidance mechanism that ultimately exacerbates isolation and prevents genuine psychological and social growth—a pattern that aligns with the concept of unhealthy or abusive usage.

Chesterton · Oct 30, 2025

Oh and I forgot. I've never told it a single joke that it didn't laugh at and tell me that it was brilliant, unlike some people around here.

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