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6,000 Years?
- By Jipsah
- Creation & Theistic Evolution
- 1617 Replies
To what end other than narrative purposes?
No sun required for a period of time defined solely ever based on the movement of the earth vis-a-vis the sun.
Right.
We know when the sun was created, though, don't we
Except during the Creation, which had to happen in solar days when there was no sun for the benefit of humans not yet created.
As we used to say in the Old Counytty, "Do what?"/
Except for Creation, when He had to to it in 6 solar days.
And the time it took to create the universe is very important because... reasons.
I'm sorry, what? By giving the scoffers something else to scoff at? And thern you quote St Peter saying that God doesn't reckon time as we do yo demonstrate your belief and contention that God must reckon time precisely as we do!
Jipsah, Son of Haeja. And what is lacking in St John's account? He tells us that our Lord Christ Himself created all that exists, and is thus God Himself. Was thetre further information there you believe he should have imparted? Like an extra sun to make the Genesis account "work"?
I'm sorry, is John 1 not part of God's Word? Hmmmm...
Jipsah, Son of... oh, we've been over that. So you believe that we desperately need to know how long it took God, in human terms (really?) to create the universe, even if your schedule requires, shall we say, modification, (the addition of a pre-sun sun) for even your lot to accept it as true
Yep. based on the Genesis narrative, told in sybolic "days" that weren't human/solar "days" at all. No sun, no evenings, no mornings, and God is not, was not, nor ever will be, restricted by human reckoning of time at all, in whatever increments you choose.
No, you're just going to make them say what youy reckon they should, and then rail at folks who look at God's actual Creation and notice that it sure does look a whole lot older than that. Wow, ya think?
WEll yeah, I reckon that it's Really Important for you to "know" that the universe is only 6000 years old because otherwise you might be mistaken for one of those folks who've dedicated their lives to studying the actual universe that God created and found that it's really, really unlikely that it's anything like that new, and that it sure looks like He spent a goof few millions years . Y'all know He got it done in less than a week from preliminary design to final release.
Now it helps a lot that you get to ignore Scripture's insistance that God isn't stuck in time as we are, and that in fact, rather than being bound in time - brace yourself now - He created it. Oh, but a week is a week"! Really? What watch was God looking at? He is, and always has been, always will be.
No sun to reckon time by - He created it. No moon to calculate month'as by. He made them. No animals to be born, grow old,and die. He created them. No ga;axies to spin up and run down. He built them. No seasons. No aeons. Npne of the "stuf" we thkiink of as the universe; no universe. No space; no time.
Oh, but Creation of all that took 6 days, whatever that meant when only God existed.
Six literal, (oh yes, it must be literal) "days:. And then God could knock off and go on to His next project.
And you want to tell me to get a grip? You're flogging a religion where God is just this bloke who just created everything, Took Him a week, Pieve o' cake. None of this millions of years stuff; easy peasy.
And this is what Christiians are supposed to believe, literally? Please
Yeah, all you have to do is reduce it to the level understood by preliterate hunter-gatherers and declare thet to be the eternal truth of God.
You much prefer placing absurd limits on God and His creation.
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