Valletta said:

BREAKING: Matthew Dowd Fired from MSNBC For Vile Comments Blaming Charlie Kirk For Assassination | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

MSNBC fired far-left political commentator Matthew Dowd on Wednesday evening for his vile comments about Charlie Kirk.

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...Conservatives have been urging people to pull back on the hatred and violent rhetoric.

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They have?
Or they have only been urging people on the left?

Cause I think there's been more than a few conservatives hoping for Civil War...if we are to believe their tweets.

Vambram said:

Pastor recalls last moments with Charlie Kirk: 'American martyr'

Pastor Jack Hibbs reflects on his close friendship with Charlie Kirk after the conservative leader's assassination at Utah Valley University during his campus tour.

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Pastor Jack Hibbs, a close friend of Charlie Kirk, told Fox News Digital he was in disbelief when he heard the conservative firebrand had been assassinated after having spoken to him just hours earlier.

"My initial thoughts, of course, like everyone else, is what is going on in our country?" Hibbs said. "But then quickly, I think my second thought, which is the prevailing thought, is Charlie was obviously a young man of not only profound intellect, he had a great faith in Jesus."

Kirk, 31, was shot and killed Wednesday at the kickoff of his "American Comeback Tour" at Utah Valley University. He leaves behind his wife, Erika, and two young children, ages 1 and 3.

Hibbs, pastor of Calvary Chapel Chino Hills in Southern California, said Kirk had "a love for the Bible" and the pair "spent the last several years going through the Scriptures together."

Kirk's assassination made him an "American martyr" that will encourage an entire generation of "untold Charlies who will follow in his footsteps," he said.

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I tend to think of the dead school children who have been shot for the last decade to be teh TRUE American Martyrs.

They were apolotical; they loved their country and community; they didn't try to create divisions within the country.

It is no secret that Doha has been providing shelter to Hamas leaders for years. Men who planned massacres, financed terrorism and directed the war against Israel from safe ground lived in luxury hotels. Qatar always justified this as a mediating role. But the reality is clear: those who provide terrorists with accommodation, money and an international stage bear responsibility.

Now, following the Israeli operation, Qatar is presenting itself not as a self-critical partner, but as a victim. Prime Minister Al-Thani used a CNN interview to denounce Netanyahu as the cause of the chaos. He went even further, saying that Netanyahu should be brought before the International Criminal Court. A country that offers protection to Hamas leaders is thus calling for the prosecution of the Israeli prime minister, a grotesque reversal of roles.

Diplomatic circles speculate that Israel chose the operation in Doha as an alternative to a previously planned action in Turkey. Ankara, as a NATO member, would have been a risky location. Qatar, on the other hand, despite its close ties to the West, is considered a safe haven for Hamas, a paradox that Israel is no longer willing to accept. Netanyahu made it clear:

"Drive them out or put them on trial. If not, we will do it."

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The planned conference in Doha shows one thing: while Israel is deliberately attacking terrorist structures, Arab-Islamic states are trying to turn the tables and portray Jerusalem as the aggressor. It is the old pattern: terrorism is hushed up, Israel's self-defence is scandalised.

But this time the situation is different. 7 Oct showed that there can be no status quo as long as Hamas operates from safe havens.

Qatar can convene conferences. But Israel will continue to target the terrorists' safe haven.

Chesterton said:

And something he didn't do.

Because she never did anything of importance on the national stage that would earn her the honor of having flags lowered, and that's not really deriding her since I've never done anything important either. Most people haven't. But Kirk was a very important influence for positive good politically, culturally and intellectually.

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"very important influence for positve good".
You agreed with him.
That's it.

It doesn't make him a saint. It doesn't make him good. You agreed with him.

That's it. There was nothing special about him. He's just another right wing Rush Limbaugh type.

FOR THE RECORD, my thoughts on the shooting:
It makes me sad and quite worried. I think it's pretty messed up that he was shot in front of his loved ones and family.

iluvatar5150 said:

...a media personality, murdered in an presumably political attack:

Honoring the Memory of Charlie Kirk

BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA A PROCLAMATION As a mark of respect for the memory of Charlie Kirk, by the authority vested in me as

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but not for Melissa Hortman, an elected official, murdered in a separate political attack:
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This president is so partisan he shouldn't be leading anything. And the idea that anyone is expecting people to come together under this leadership shows an utter lack of self reflection on their own behaviours.


Why come to someone who has such disdain that they won't bother acknowledging the killing of someone they disagree with?

fhansen said:

Again it's more than just believing in one or two truths regarding Jesus and His work. Faith is about reconciliation with God

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And the belief in and trust on Jesus and his atoning work on the cross effects reconcilation with God (Eph 2:16) and salvation from his condemnation (Eph 2:8-9).

Strong in Him said:

I've already agreed that it could have been better if Judas had not been born.
He saw Jesus' miracles, and did a few himself. Then - for whatever reason - he decided to betray Jesus, realised afterwards that he had betrayed an innocent man, gave the money back to the priests, who couldn't have cared less, then went and took his own life.
Maybe he betrayed Jesus because he wanted him to lead an army against the Romans and he thought that being arrested would force his hand. I didn't say that had happened - I didn't even say that's what I believed. But it could have happened that way.
That is John's comment, not Jesus' statement - and being a thief doesn't make someone a devil.

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Jesus said Judas was a devil (Jn 6:70-71).
Jesus said that to hear the apostles (Jn 12:4-6: Judas "was a thief") is to hear him (Lk 10:16).

Strong in Him said:

Just as stating that you will never deny someone - and later calling down curses upon yourself as you deny them - makes someone a devil.
I wasn't giving an opinion; I was speculating.
And this still has nothing to do with Hebrews 6.
"Either these people were saved and fell away from it, or they were never saved and yet were able to be enlightened, taste the heavenly gift, partake of the Holy Spirit, and taste the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, all of which seem to be denied possible to a lost person according to1 Corinthians 2:14."

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Their tasting did not result in eating (saving faith).

Psalm 116:15
Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints.



This verse is a beautiful and comforting statement of faith, often used in memorial services or during times of grieving. Its primary meaning is that the death of a devout follower of God is not insignificant or forgotten. On the contrary, it is seen as valuable and meaningful in God's eyes.

Some key interpretations and insights into this verse are:

* **God's Personal Care:**
It speaks to the deep, personal care God has for His people, even to the very end of their lives. A saint's life and death are not mere coincidences, but are of profound importance to God.

* **Redemption from a Worldly View:**
In a world where death is often viewed as a loss, an end, or a tragedy, this verse presents a divine perspective. It suggests that a saint's death is a triumph, a transition into a new, glorious state.

* **Martyrdom:**
In a historical context, this verse has been a source of great comfort and strength for Christians facing martyrdom. The death of a person who dies for their faith is not a defeat but a victory, and it is precious to God.

* **Assurance of Salvation:**
The verse can also be interpreted as an assurance that God will not allow His saints to die until their life's work is finished, and He will not allow them to be taken before their time. Their death is precious because it marks their entrance into His presence.

Marilyn C said:

OK. I do look to what Paul went through and the revelation he gave by the Head, Jesus, through the Holy Spirit, but mainly I think upon the Lord Jesus Christ.

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And begin. to read in. 2 Cor 11:23-28. and it was no PICNIC. and could take this today. ??

dan p

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

I believe it was written on the bullet casings they found...

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Apparently the fella scribed the following “I did it. I, a Lady, did it”.

There was also some lipstick and a beard trimmer.

Trying to figure out how to be at peace with the idea of being single for the rest of my life while still desiring to be married and have kids.

I used to stress myself out over it so much and I'm finally recognizing that it's just not worth stressing out over. It still doesn't feel great, but it's not the end of the world either.