Merrill said:

So history museums shouldn't have any exhibits which display Confederate soldiers, leaders, etc., regardless of context?

Maybe remove German soldiers in the WWII exhibits as well?

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you see... you actually do understand. Yes, museums should display artifacts from times in our history where bad things were happening and how it shaped the culture. That's EXACTLY what the example exhibit you're poopooing does.

BobRyan said:

Interesting.

"While many Christians observe Sunday as the Lord's Day, the Eastern Orthodox Church retains the significance of Saturday as the Sabbath, a day of remembering the departed and reflecting on God's creation and deliverance"

Hard to figure that out from your posts generally speaking

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On the contrary, I have on numerous occasions described what we do on the Sabbath, including the Soul Saturdays in pre-Lent, Lent and the day before Pentecost Sunday when we commemorate our departed loved ones in the Divine Liturgy.

We also commemorate the Mother of God on the Sabbath for Christological reasons that should be obvious.

O mountains said:

It comes from Christian identity: Christian Identity - Wikipedia

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That alone makes this "doctrine" unworthy of serious consideration. CI is nothing more than a white supremacy cult, it's Satanic poison.

The teaching of Christ's Church, since the beginning, is that all human beings are the children of Adam; that means we all bear the Divine Image, and at the same time the Divine Image is injured because of sin--"for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God"; and since the Second Person of the Holy Trinity, Jesus Christ, has partaken of our common humanity He is the Savior of all men (1 Timothy 4:10), having shed His blood for the whole world, in order that all should repent and believe the Gospel and have eternal life.

Even calling CI a cult seems underwhelming, as though I'm insulting cults in calling it that. It is a rottenness so thoroughly anti-Christ that it deserves every scorn imaginable.

-CryptoLutheran

Merrill said:

make the museum a safe-space?

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That seems to be the aim. Heaven forbid that art should make a statement that Trump doesn't like.

BobRyan said:

so do you have a "Christ rose on the eighth day" text for us?? (so we can make it relevant to all)

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The eighth day is counting from Palm Sunday. Scripture attests that he rose on the first day of the week. In Orthodoxy we call this the eighth day but you can call it the first if you prefer, either way, it was Sunday the 14th of Nissan.

In 33 AD this was March 25th; he was probably older than 33 as was historically assumed, since the best estimates for the year of his birth now say around 6 BC based on the last time a census happened in that region during the principate of Caesar Augustus.

Merrill said:

I never said art isn't about ideas --but nice straw man attempt

and nice job deliberately misreading my post

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You literally complained about ideology and politics in art. Do you want a museum that just exhibits pretty scenes painted with oils on a canvas? Do you want sculptures to be just wood or marble and to be as lifelike as possible? Art is soaked in politics. From Picasso to Banksy. Is it to be banned?

What Philistine madness is this? And name some of the sculptors and what their work was meant to represent to back up your complaints.

SabbathBlessings said:

A covenant just means an agreement. The OP is speaking of the covenant God made with Israel with represents His people and we are told verbatim what it entails

Exo 34:28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

In addition God added statues, ordinances, laws and other commandments, but the words of the covenant are the Ten Commandments as shown by the clear Scripture written by God alone.

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God told Him to “write down these words” which is referring to what God had just finished saying to Moses before He said to write it down which was not only the 10 commandments. Verse 34 just says that the 10 commandments were written on tablets but the rest of what God had said was written in the book of the covenant. They’re 10 commandments were part of that covenant, not all of it because the male Jews had to be circumcised to enter into God’s covenant which is not part of the Decalogue. You need to read everything before verse 34, those commandments were not just the 10 commandments. You’re trying to base this idea on one verse while ignoring everything that was said before it. White down THESE THINGS. The only THINGS God had spoken for Moses to write was spoken BEFORE verse 34, not after.

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So history museums shouldn't have any exhibits which display Confederate soldiers, leaders, etc., regardless of context?

Maybe remove German soldiers in the WWII exhibits as well?

make the museum a safe-space?

Praying.

Aryeh Jay said:

Children are just as safe around wood chippers, hay bailing machines, and giant vats of acid as anyone else.

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The smaller hands can better reach between the blades to remove obstructions.

Merrill said:

Reality: "America has been and still is to a degree racially divided."

*Museum puts together a display that highlights this fact*

and why does an art museum need to highlight this "fact" (which isn't really a fact--there are far more things that unite Americans than divide them)?

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That there are things that unite does not invalidate or erase our history of division and knowing that history and being aware of it is important in understanding who we are as Americans. Bringing that awareness and educating the public about it is part of the museum's mission and purpose.

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If I want bullish* CRT commentary about the country, and can go over to reddit. I don't go to the Smithsonian to get that

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Then don't go to the Smithsonian. No one is forcing you. Heck you can even avert your eyes to the display or not enter that section. What are you afraid of?

Praying.

Merrill said:

are you unironically posting a slogan from Robin DeAngelo? "white fragility"

what educated, rational person thinks DeAngelo is some kind of insightful intellectual? She is literally the biggest joke on the left

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I don't know where the term came from, nor do I generally care to use it, but it seems perfectly apt here.

essentialsaltes said:

I should think my OP and my continued presence in the thread with updates from various states should make it abundantly clear that I am worried about the expansion of child labor to longer hours, fewer restraints on hazardous jobs, and younger children.

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Children are just as safe around wood chippers, hay bailing machines, and giant vats of acid as anyone else.

Yes, there is a Christian Passover. In the English-speaking world we call it Easter. It is the Feast of Feasts and Day of Days.

-CryptoLutheran

DOGE apparently wants to replace the SSA computer system within "months." These guys are out of their gourds.

JesusFollowerForever said:

it's not an approach it is what is written!

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This is what is written:

"In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away." - Hebrews 8:13

-CryptoLutheran

Bradskii said:

Art isn't (or cannot) be about ideas? Whut? There mustn't be any statements inherent in a piece of art?

You just made that up. There's nothing in the link that you gave that even suggested anything like that. Do you recognise some of the sculptures and know who the artist is and what his or her intention was?

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I never said art isn't about ideas --but nice straw man attempt

and nice job deliberately misreading my post

wing2000 said:

The Administration is targeting the Smithsonian museums.

President Donald Trump signed an executive order on Thursday directing Vice President JD Vance to eliminate "divisive race-centered ideology" from Smithsonian museums, educational and research centers, and the National Zoo.

"Once widely respected as a symbol of American excellence and a global icon of cultural achievement, the Smithsonian Institution has, in recent years, come under the influence of a divisive, race-centered ideology. This shift has promoted narratives that portray American and Western values as inherently harmful and oppressive." It goes on to say: "Museums in our Nation's capital should be places where individuals go to learn -- not to be subjected to ideological indoctrination or divisive narratives that distort our shared history."

https://www.npr.org/2025/03/27/nx-s1-5342914/smithsonian-president-trump-executive-order

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Reality: "America has been and still is to a degree racially divided."

*Museum puts together a display that highlights this fact*

Republicans: "WhY ArE yOu RaCiAlLy DiViDiNg AmEriCA?!!!!!11"

Also, "improper partisan ideology" is a chilling phrase. That could be literally anything the administration doesn't like. And I don't think anyone really has serious doubts about what that "ideology" is composed of or which why it leans politically.

ralliann said:

Are you worried about Child labor or what?

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I should think my OP and my continued presence in the thread with updates from various states should make it abundantly clear that I am worried about the expansion of child labor to longer hours, fewer restraints on hazardous jobs, and younger children.