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Warden_of_the_Storm · Jun 7, 2025

AV1611VET said:
Killed that population.

I don't really think that's a question that needs to be answered nor even talked about in the OP links. Natural causes might be an answer after all.

loveofourlord · Jun 7, 2025

GoldenBoy89 said:
Custody over JD Vance will be split equally.

nahh they left him in an orphanage, neither want him.

Jimmy P · Jun 7, 2025

Jimmy P · Jun 7, 2025

F Troop

loveofourlord · Jun 7, 2025

BPPLEE said:
My conspiracy theory is that Trump and Musk are working together to flush out the moles

yeah, sorry you will NEVER EVER get me to pretend to, or even hint that I was a pred because it be all too easy for that to never go away, I doubt trump would go ahead with it because even if he goes, "it was all a trick to get the bad guys." many will still believe,and think the moles part is a coverup.

Warden_of_the_Storm · Jun 7, 2025

AV1611VET said:
Do they know who did it?

Did what?

loveofourlord · Jun 7, 2025

as long as the cuts to medicaid and such go to pay for tax cuts for the rich the cuts are themselves fraud. Maybe it's needed to be done to actualy balance the budget, but no cuts should be allowed without actually lowering the deficit.

Oompa Loompa · Jun 7, 2025

essentialsaltes said:
Two gold medals

The boy received a gold medal for participating in girls' sports. Great.

FredVB · Jun 7, 2025

trophy33 said:
I am not sure why you think that my reply had nothing to do with your points. God in the Old Testament gave Israel instructions to kill a lot of animals for religious purposes and also for food. Your point is for example "God is love" or "God cares for animals", which is fine, but it, is not the whole story. It does not lead to veganism.

My point is that God cares for the animals. Can you say because Jesus Christ was sacrificed, for us, the whole story does not lead us to care for Jesus Christ ourselves? That logic has a problem, don't you see? There are the passages showing God hated the sacrifices. It was not what God was desiring. Human perspective was concluding they were desirable to God. But those with this perspective offended God when they did not care about killing the animals. It was supposed to bother us the way Jesus Christ being crucified would bother us. Sure our redemption is made possible that way. But he really suffered for us, don't forget that.

You also responded to me elsewhere:

FredVB said:
I always wonder at those who claim they cannot go vegan. There are even early people who gave up animal products.

And got weak and died. Even vegans like Ghandi had to incorporate at least dairy into their diet.

Without modern ultra-processed supplements and non-ecological transport of exotic plants from all over the world, it has been impossible for any historical culture living on local resources to be vegan. Veganism is possible only in specific modern developed areas and with so precise planning that it is impractical for the most of people. It gets even more complicated in special situations like childhood, pregnancy, allergies or health problems.

Fitness nutrition experts, healthcare experts etc will recommend an omnivorous diet for the majority of people, mostly a Mediterranean variant. With some good planning, a vegetarian diet is possible, too. But vegan diets - no, not really. Carnivore diets - well, it seems people like it, but experts not so much.

You ignore a lot of things with this response and get things wrong. There is a tribe in Asia that was not using things from animals for thousands of years. You might conclude Daniel, Shadrach, Meshech and Abednego would have been getting very unhealthy from their choice for vegetables and water but that God miraculously saved them there, and nobody else could do that which they chose. How processed do you think what I generally have is? You would be surprised. I have been avoiding so much processed stuff for close to a decade, according to your argument I should be dead. You disregard the site with information, that I share, is from a team of doctors.

prodromos said:
Forgive me, I assumed you would be familiar with the Genesis account.

Genesis 3:20-21
The man called his wife’s name Eve, because she was the mother of all living. And the Lord God made for Adam and for his wife garments of skins, and clothed them.

I know this verses already (of course). It just isn't saying what you said, which was definitely adding to it what is not in the Bible.

essentialsaltes · Jun 7, 2025

Oompa Loompa said:
Two gold medals?

Two gold medals

PloverWing · Jun 7, 2025

This is probably a good decision. I'm uncomfortable with the degree to which social media breaks down the barrier between our public and private lives. As long as the realtor is professional on the job, treating all his clients with respect and following his company's code of ethics, he should have some freedom to do as he pleases when he's not on the job.

essentialsaltes · Jun 7, 2025

Certainly Townhall has a different take on the LA Times article than I did.

Multiple immigration sweeps reported across Los Angeles, with a tense standoff/protest downtown; SEIU union leader arrested

Videos showed federal agents running after people in the parking lot of the Home Depot in Westlake, not far from downtown Los Angeles Another raid occurred at a business in the Garment District near 9th and Towne streets, with agents in riot gear detaining workers at a clothing store as dozens...

www.christianforums.com

Oompa Loompa · Jun 7, 2025

essentialsaltes said:
That did not happen. Two gold medals were awarded in the relevant event in the state finals.

Two gold medals?

JulieB67 · Jun 7, 2025

bniffty24 said:
Do you think this will include planes falling out of the skies , cars and other vehicles crashing into one another etc.
Because I had some awful thoughts about this. What if one day I'm driving my family or friends somewhere and I'm the only Christian in the car.........

No, I don't. Because a pretrib rapture is not biblical. I used to wonder about that type of thing as well when I once believed in that doctrine. And now I see how insane that would be and obviously not a part of God's plan.

BCP1928 · Jun 7, 2025

MrMoe said:
That’s a huge leap into conspiratorial thinking you’ve made.

“There has been an increase in pending legislation recently regarding the use of E-Verify which may be driven from the Trump administration’s stance on immigration.

At the federal level, the Accountability Through Electronic Verification Act (S.1151) was introduced in the senate on March 26, 2025. This bill would expand the use of E-Verify, hold employers accountable, and increase penalties for non-compliance. At the state level, pending bills in three states (Montana HB 226, Kentucky HB 673, and Idaho HB 252) would require private employers to use E-Verify if passed.“

What’s Happening with E-Verify Requirements

Stay up to date on what’s happening with E-Verify requirements in 2025 from the latest GovDocs Legislative Scoop.

www.govdocs.com

Crossing the border illegally is a crime.

Is It a Crime to Cross the U.S. Border Without Permission or Gain Entry By Fraud?

Illegal entry (or "improper entry") to the US carries criminal penalties (fines and jail or prison time), in addition to civil penalties and immigration consequences

www.alllaw.com

“For the first improper entry offense, the person can be fined (as a criminal penalty), or imprisoned for up to six months, or both.”

Six months? For one of the most heinous crimes a person can commit? Maybe we should impose the death penalty.

essentialsaltes · Jun 7, 2025

BCP1928 said:
Are you channeling an Incel?

Whoa, there.

I think we can separate the position of a state or federal government, that does indeed seem intent on pushing things toward 'The womb is the most important part of a woman, and its contents may take precedence over the woman herself.'

and the position of the average (non-pathological/ultrazealous/sociopathic) man, that RDKirk is correctly representing, who loves his partner and doesn't want her to die.

Amo2 · Jun 7, 2025

2PhiloVoid said:
All your argument does here is attempt to impute and reduce the paleontological, archeological, historical and literary issues in which the Bible is enmeshed down to a false dichotomy. The issues are actually on a spectrum or degree of academic measures and considerations, but it is those who insist on an conceptual a priori "either/or" approach when evaluating each and every sentence of the Bible who confuse the issues and argue that if the bible can't be seen to be literal history through and through, it opens the slippery slope and means we should toss the bible into the trashbin of what is thought of as the useless and outmoded past.

This sort of conclusion, whether it's proffered by Christians or by Atheists, is patently false and hinges on assumptions about what terms like "literal" and "truth" have to mean, assumptions which don't by any necessity carry the concrete denotations that are claimed or that are easily or measurably born out hermeneutically or historically.

So what am I saying, exactly? I'm saying that just because the Bible may not have a syllable by syllable correspondence to the reality claims which different people may make for the past, this state of affairs doesn't automatically imply that the Biblical books and letters have no substantive representational meaning reflective of the past or that they're automatically not prophetic in nature, or that if they're not "proven," then God "obviously didn't have anything to do with it."

People need to get out of their conceptual and emotionally self-imposed epistemological expectations about what and how "truth" of any kind has to manifest itself, whether in the religious sphere or in the historic or scientific, and realize these things have to be wrestled with and not all too easily canned and vacuum sealed by a priori dichotomies of personal expectation.

And what are some of the issues with the expectation of a 6,000 year old Creation? For my part, I'd use the following statements in the video below by Phil Vischer of the Holy Post podcast as a compass for where to go next:

Does the Bible Say the Earth is 6000 Years Old?
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Your video above is built upon faulty premise. The majority of bible believers of the New Covenant or Old, were in fact YEC's. Not in there scientific manner of this day, but certainly as believers in a six day creation, with Adam and Eve as our original parents. At no time in history did almost all bible believers give up on a literal creation account.

Aseyesee · Jun 7, 2025

BelieveItOarKnot said:
No matter how much we cut up this cherry there is no legitimately avoiding the facts that we all have sin, Romans 3;9, and that sin is "of the devil," 1 John 3:8, Mark 4:15

When, if ever we see this fact we'll quit trying to justify ourselves, start being honest about it, stop thinking that devils in anyone obey laws or is faithful, etc etc.

We as a whole are simply awash in various lies about the subject, and therefore, therein remain slaves to the devil after a fashion of lying hypocrisy

I just got sick of hearing it is all, mostly from my own denying mind

Until we have looked upon whom we have pierced ... we don't understand sin ...

Just to say ... I have not said in any post on this thread that all have not sinned ... to me this "all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God" (and here I agree with Paul and whoever the other fella was) is first principles (or a foundational truth), to coin a phrase ...

To eat or not eat, yet is the question ...

BCP1928 · Jun 7, 2025

ThatRobGuy said:
Would it make anyone else equally uneasy if they were find out that of those 200+ data points outlined, most of that stuff is already available for purchase (completely legally if you've got the $$$ and a secure datacenter) via Business Intelligence data brokers who sell that stuff all the time to companies who get it for BI/Analytics purposes? lol

Both the company I work for (as well as a lot of our clients) pay for quarterly data installs on SQL servers from a few different sources like KBM, Epsilon, and Acxiom.

So anyone working at places that buy these data installs, and have intermediate SQL skills, can already look up most of this information pretty quickly.

The data itself is actually so valuable that quarterly refreshes get delivered on drives in locked boxes by armed guards (sort of like a Brinks truck), and the armed guard actually accompanies the DBAs when they install it onto the servers, and then take the physical drives back with them afterwards for destruction of the physical drives.

And barring health data from the state of California, healthcare data isn't exempt from those installs either.

I say all of this to say...if you're paranoid about this, you should probably make peace with it pretty quickly...because hundreds of thousands of software devs and DBAs already have access to most of this stuff if they really wanted to look it up.

If you wanted to really be spooked, the digital footprint tools that exists (albeit it priced out of reach for an individual user) linked with the aforementioned data melds together to form "Big Brother"

We realize that. It's a question of how the database will be used.

DaisyDay · Jun 7, 2025

Henrye said:
The New York Times reports………

That in itself should give you guys pause. Don’t believe everything you read from them. Lol

Poisoning the well.

BCP1928 · Jun 7, 2025

Always in His Presence said:
Battle of Los Angeles: Anti-ICE Leftists Go Berserk Against Federal Agents, Storm DHS Facility

Mayhem ensued when ICE raids were conducted in Los Angeles yesterday. Like in Minneapolis, leftists came out of the woodwork to berate and disrupt federal agents enforcing immigration laws. Unlike that incident, however, it didn’t lead to what I was told is an act of armed rebellion: anti-ICE activists stormed a federal building, and the local police were nowhere to be found.

They gotta be "leftists," right?

essentialsaltes · Jun 7, 2025

Hans Blaster said:
How many of these investigations of silly things do they have so far? There is the "causes of autism study". Then there was the reexamination of the death of Jeffery Epstein. Are we missing any?

Did mustache-twirling Biden aides use the autopen in late night orgies of nefarious pardoning of low level drug offenders?

essentialsaltes · Jun 7, 2025

Valletta said:
We can't permit lower courts to undermine the presidency.

Will you feel as trusting of the higher courts if the actual decision on the merits goes the other way?

BCP1928 · Jun 7, 2025

RDKirk said:
Speaking as a man who has been single and looking for a woman, I'd disagree.

Sure, there are men in the upper 10% (or smaller) who are highly desirable to 80% of women, but the rest of us normal slobs are lucky to get what we've got. And those of us who got lucky aren't so cavalier that we don't care about losing them.

I'm giving a hard side-eye to someone who thinks the average man's attitude about his wife is, "Well, shucks, I'll just get another."

Are you channeling an Incel?

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