bèlla said:

No I haven’t but I prefer classical education.

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Classical education is better, much better.
Modern education has been very successful in achieving its "mission".
Education? No, it's dumbing down Americans and Australians.

Asians are no smarter than Americans, on average. Then why are Asians getting the TOP scores in PISA Maths?
Why Americans and Australian teenagers are poor at Maths, on average ?

Servus said:

There's a reason why most everyone in Australia lives on the coast.

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That is true. It's a desert surrounded by a skid-mark of green.
But the truth you just posted does not contradict the scientific evidence.
"People avoid living in deserts and like the beach" does NOT disprove "Australia's starting to cook in accordance with climate change."
Both statements can be true. Both ARE true!
Unless - of course - you are politically wedded to an anti-science proposition.
Then - being MAGA - you can just believe anything you want to. Apparently. Conservatives used to be about conserving nature, not practicing a radical experiment by altering the atmosphere of the entire planet!

Eunice Foote discovered CO2 trapped heat way back in 1956.
She put thermometers in equal glass jars out in the same sun, and filled them with different gases.
The CO2 jar warmed higher, methane even more.
This is backyard science - but MAGA denies it.
Why is that? Oh yeah - big funding from Koch brothers and Exxon.
Trump gives billionaires tax cuts and kicks the bottom 16 million Americans off healthcare and calls it a "Big Beautiful Bill." Go figure.

REALITY:

"Australia, on average, has warmed by 1.51 ± 0.23 °C since national records began in 1910, with most warming occurring since 1950. Every decade since 1950 has been warmer than preceding decades. The warming in Australia is consistent with global trends, with the degree of warming similar to the overall average across the world’s land areas."​

I understand that. But that does not mean people, specifically dispensationalists understand what those dispensations are. For instance, this is a proper understanding of a dispensation.

This is one of best examples of the nature of God's supernatural book, the Bible. Moses as well as other prophets wrote- That what we call the first covenant given by Moses to Israel, was predestined to be replaced by God in favor of a second covenant that was to come. That the first covenant was but an instrument towards his designs of a predestined second covenant through which he would save billions and transform the world.
Now like I said many of the prophets spoke of this but no one did it quite like Moses in the first five books of the Bible. This is why God rejected so many of the first born in Genesis but elected and predestined the second born.

• Cain the first born of Adam was rejected in favor of the second born Abel.
• Ishmael, Abraham's first born was rejected in favor of his second born Isaac.
• Esau the first born rejected in favor of the second born Jacob.
• Jacob, later named Israel blessed Joseph's second born over the first born.
• Moses struck the rock the first time in the wilderness and nothing happened, but the second time he struck it water, “the living water” came out.

None of this was written by accident. It is all prophecy about God predestining the world to be saved via the second covenant with the first as a means to arrive at the second. There is much more of this in the Bible like Israel's first king Saul being rejected in favor of Israel's second king David. Even the book of Job is a prophecy of the first and second covenant. Everything Job had from God at first was destroyed by Satan. But what he received the second time around was much much more and endured. However, the the coup d'état of this prophecy is at the end of the five books of the Torah. God does not allow Moses to lead the people into the promised land because a man named Yahshua, Joshua in English, Jesus from Hebrew to Greek to English, was predestined to do that. A man named Jesus led the children of Israel into the promised land as a prophecy of Jesus leading the meek to inherit the entire earth!
Now ask yourselves how could Moses and the rest of the OT writers knew such things about a first and second covenant and could preach and prophesy this would happen thousands of years in advance? Especially through the historical story line of the lives of the patriarchs and the lawgiver Moses himself? It certainly was not written after the fact as the books of Moses and the prophets were known throughout the empires of those days many centuries before the Messiah came. Besides, do you think the Jewish political class who murdered Jesus because they thought he would take their ruler-ship over the Jewish people from them would go ahead and alter the scriptures in such a way as to prove the claims made about Jesus? In their rabbinical writings in the centuries following the first century they sure don’t. They couldn’t anyway. The entire Greek Empire had access to the Hebrew Bible written in Greek hundreds of years before Jesus came. That is just historical fact.
I would like you to use reason and logic about what I just pointed out. This is not just a matter of so called faith. What possible reason could Moses or any other writers of the OT have had to conjure up such a story line? What gain would it have been to them? What a total contrivance of nothing because there was no chance the world could or would develop along such lines. Especially in light of the fact that no one understood what it all meant. The apostle Paul called this in Ephesians 3:4.... the mystery of Christ 5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; But he found this out after the fact because it became evident due to it transpiring in his ministry. His revelation of it came through the scripture as he was living out what was prophesied. God had to trick Peter into going to a household of gentiles to preach. Even after that Peter called Paul's writings on the subject scripture, because there was really no clarity in their minds on the matter up until that point, until after it began to come to pass. One might ascertain that surely some of the saved in ancient Israel knew that the messiah was going to bring the light, salvation and transformation to the nations because there is so much prophecy about it. Some of the prophets even spoke directly of a new covenant for Israel and the abrogation of the current one. But the means through which that would be accomplished was just to much to grasp for them. Especially since what was written was four-twelve centuries old before Jesus had arrived on the scene and, there was no more scripture written throughout that four hundred year period. Moses even stated it in Duet 18:17 The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your fellow Israelite's. You must listen to him. 18.....He will tell them everything I command him. 19 I myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name. Or as the writer of the NT book of Hebrew claims concerning the Old Covenant: 2nd Co. 3:13 We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to prevent the Israelite's from seeing the end of what was passing away.
It is very easy today to nonchalantly look at our world without any regard to how impossible what we are living out could have been prophesied by Moses and the rest of the OT prophets. There is no getting away with the lies some folks make about Jesus, that NT writers made it all up after the fact and created a Jesus to fit OT prophecies. Those fallacious claims are as far from logic and reason as you can get with this body of prophecy with just a casual look at history. These prophecies were spoken in a world ruled in perpetuity by despotic kings, emperors and warlords. A world where the government imposed idol worship with the death penalty for non participation. A world where 1\3 to 1\2 of all people were the property of others. In most of it human sacrifice was practiced and the rulers were looked upon as demi-gods, most of whom just happened to be LGBTP. Property rights were non existent once kingdoms were established since the king could just take anyone's property and give it to their supporters. It was even a law in the Roman Empire where the new emperor could execute the families of anyone he wanted and deliver their property to his supporters. In that world Jehovah was just a small tribal god that was of such little regard that he did not even make the Greek or Roman pantheon of gods. Yet in those circumstances with the entire world and all its power arrayed against it every coming to pass as exampled by Israel already suffering multiple holocausts by the time Jesus came on the scene. Prophecies like this within the context of the replacement of the Old covenant by the New Covenant were spoken.
Psalm 22:27 All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the families of the nations shall worship before you. 28 For the kingdom is the LORD'S: and he is the governor among the nations.
Isaiah 2:17......and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day. 18 And the idols he shall utterly abolish.
Isaiah 54:5 ......The God of the whole earth shall he be called.
Here we are today. Prophecies out of God's supernatural book impossible to contrive and fulfill, being fulfilled. There are now believers who worship the God of the Bible among all ethnic groups on earth and this phenomena in numbers has been growing by leaps and bounds every single year. Half the world once deadly serious about worshiping their hundreds of idols have forsaken them. They are now just historical artifacts. Although half the world at this point are not heaven bound servants of God and believers. Half the world does call the God of the Bible, the God of the whole earth. The other half is soon to follow through the preaching of the Gospel. Can you see, especially you people who claim Christ that the only thing that can account for it is supernatural authorship? Only God could inspire Moses to write what he did and only God could bring it to pass in a world that was completely hostile to its fulfillment, but had no idea what it was that was going to be fulfilled in the first place. They just wanted to kill the messengers because they figured them a threat to their rule. You know what? They were right.

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Daniel Martinovich said:

Seems beside the point. But I think we can agree on the state not having authority to determine truth.

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And I am a DISPENSATIONALIST and I have attended many different churches and I am OLD. and have never heard what

what you have written !

dan p

Daniel Martinovich said:

I'm not asking as a Preterist. I disagree with them as strongly as I disagree with dispensationalists and pre, mid, post, ah= millennialists as far as the scripture is concerned. But I have never seen someone cite anything other than what they believe to tag them as "heretics." So it is something I have been curious about for decades.

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And just. asking. ,BUT. the word DISPENSATIKONAISM. is found in. EPH. 1:10 , in. 3:2 and. in. 1. COR. 9:17 and. in. Col. 1:25

and in. 1. Tim 1:4 and in. Luke 16:2 , 3 , 4. !!

dan p

Ivan Hlavanda said:

The Church is not Israel, neither it has replaced Israel. I don't know how Christians can read Romans 11 and came to the conclusion that the Church has replaced Israel

Romans 11 13 Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry 14 in order somehow to make my fellow Jews jealous, and thus save some of them. 15 For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead?

25 Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers:[d] a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written,

“The Deliverer will come from Zion,
he will banish ungodliness from Jacob”;
27 “and this will be my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”

28 As regards the gospel, they are enemies for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers

Isaiah 66 8 Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things? Shall a land be born in one day? Shall a nation be brought forth in one moment? For as soon as Zion was in labor she brought forth her children.

God asked, can a nation be created in 1 day? Then He answered yes by establishing Israel in 1948.

This was prophesied by Ezekiel also. Ezekiel 36:19 I scattered them among the nations, and they were dispersed through the countries. In accordance with their ways and their deeds I judged them. - this happened in 70AD. Israel was scattered across the world, with no land, no army, no government. But let's take a look what God says in verse 24 'I will take you from the nations and gather you from all the countries and bring you into your own land.' And this indeed happened in may 1948.
We can then surely say that the modern Israel is the same Israel in OT.

The people of Israel are cut apart because God chose them to be His Holy, Exodus 19:6 and you shall be to me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words that you shall speak to the people of Israel.”

They are special for the sole reason that God has declared them to be special. They are the physical fulfilment of the extraordinary promese God made thousands of years ago to Abraham and his wife Sara.

It is for this reason Paul says in Romans 11: I ask, then, has God rejected his people? By no means! For I myself am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, a member of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew.

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I am not of either of the extremes. One of which you are articulating. I attested to an iron clad prophecy of the Jews returning to their homeland unlike the types of prophecy you're mixing up. What is written below cannot come to pass without a modern nation of Israel.

Isaiah 19: 23 In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria. The Assyrians will go to Egypt and the Egyptians to Assyria. The Egyptians and Assyrians will worship together. 24 In that day Israel will be the third, along with Egypt and Assyria, a blessing on the earth. 25 The Lord Almighty will bless them, saying, “Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria my handiwork, and Israel my inheritance.”

But the only way this can come to pass in a biblically doctrinal crystal-clear way is the way I stated. Millions of Jew, Arabs, Syrians, Egyptians coming to their savior Jesus and that influence transforming the region.

It would be great if hamas were to behave and disband letting the people of Gaza begin rebuilding a better life without being subjugated again. I have little faith in that outcome however.It appears they may be making moves to reassert control.

Hamas has launched several attacks on rival clans, killing "collaborators" attempting to challenge Hamas's superiority in post-ceasefire Gaza.​

Hamas has reemerged in Gaza to try to cement its dominance over the enclave after the ceasefire and the release of the remaining 20 live hostages.

The terrorist organization’s goal since the truce agreement was signed in Sinai last week is to reemerge victorious and not comply with the US-backed deal that is supposed to see it disarm and give up governance.


Hamas has launched several attacks on dissidents in the meantime, murdering them and dragging them through the streets, to show that it has no intention of going anywhere.

It has always used a combination of gangland-style killings and the appearance of normalcy in governance to control Gaza. This has been Hamas’s pattern since it seized control in an illegal coup in 2007.
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Always in His Presence said:

All you’re missing is proof. Maybe ai could help you.

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Just for funsies, this is what DeepSeek came up with:

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RileyG said:

I hear some people say wearing blue jeans is disrespectful. I always wore blue jeans to everywhere.

My opinion only.

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The only time jeans are seen as inappropriate in my church (to my knowledge) is if a EM would wear them, which I dont think I’ve ever seen.

I believe in dispensations of light and heavens providence. But what dispensationalists say the Bibles dispensations are, just ain't so.

The Bibles prophetic timeline is:
Old covenant age: Moses until 70 AD
New Covenant age: Jesus- forever
The age of the worldwide oppression of believers by the four gentile empires: 597 BC-1453 AD
The promised age of billions coming to Christ and a growing free world: 1453 AD- forever
Not that the world will not end someday. It's just there is no prophecy about it in scripture.

The Church is not Israel, neither it has replaced Israel. I don't know how Christians can read Romans 11 and came to the conclusion that the Church has replaced Israel

Romans 11 13 Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry 14 in order somehow to make my fellow Jews jealous, and thus save some of them. 15 For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead?

25 Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers:[d] a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written,

“The Deliverer will come from Zion,
he will banish ungodliness from Jacob”;
27 “and this will be my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”

28 As regards the gospel, they are enemies for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers

Isaiah 66 8 Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things? Shall a land be born in one day? Shall a nation be brought forth in one moment? For as soon as Zion was in labor she brought forth her children.

God asked, can a nation be created in 1 day? Then He answered yes by establishing Israel in 1948.

This was prophesied by Ezekiel also. Ezekiel 36:19 I scattered them among the nations, and they were dispersed through the countries. In accordance with their ways and their deeds I judged them. - this happened in 70AD. Israel was scattered across the world, with no land, no army, no government. But let's take a look what God says in verse 24 'I will take you from the nations and gather you from all the countries and bring you into your own land.' And this indeed happened in may 1948.
We can then surely say that the modern Israel is the same Israel in OT.

The people of Israel are cut apart because God chose them to be His Holy, Exodus 19:6 and you shall be to me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words that you shall speak to the people of Israel.”

They are special for the sole reason that God has declared them to be special. They are the physical fulfilment of the extraordinary promese God made thousands of years ago to Abraham and his wife Sara.

It is for this reason Paul says in Romans 11: I ask, then, has God rejected his people? By no means! For I myself am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, a member of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew.

Saucy said:

Yada yada free speech, right? Right? I mean, leftists can celebrate a man's murder, talk about wanting kids dead because their parents are conservative, and the left back their own. But oh, but NOW it's terrible and we should do something about this kind of thing. No one cares about jokes anymore, unless it's a Republican making them. Utter hypocrisy.

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I'm a leftist - and I disagreed with 95% of the political junk Charlie Kirk talked about.
But I'm also a Christian, and I was horrified by his murder - and felt sick.
I did NOT celebrate as some might have!
I have publicly called for all 'leftists' of whatever stripe (Communist, Socialist, Social-Market, Social-Liberal, Ordo-Liberal....) to recognise that Charlie Kirk's murder was horrific and unjustified.

As Bernie Sanders said, COWARDS resort to violence because they are not convinced they have enough good arguments to defeat their opponents through speech.

Also, Bernie listed ALL the big political assassinations of the last few decades and condemned them all - whatever side of politics the victim came from.

Trump has said he didn't know about that Democrat and her husband that were assassinated.
MAGA only seems to condemn the assassinations of the Kirks, not the Hortmans.

As with your post. Where did YOU condemn the attitudes above?
Utter hypocrisy.

ThatRobGuy said:

(Biden's admin is another story)

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Is it though?


A heck of a lot more people were deported under Biden than under Obama (or Trump).

ThatRobGuy said:

At the risk of sounding cynical...
I think the superficial answer is the accurate one on this.

An old white guy (perceived as having racist views on extraneous issues) deporting non-white people elicits a different reaction from some folks than if a younger non-white guy (perceived to have more progressive values) deports non-white people.

Were abuses of power and unprofessional conduct from agents happening during the raids and round-ups that happened under Obama? Almost certainly. But they would've been much less visible, as the prevalence of the "HD video recording device in everyone's pocket" was much lower back then, so you didn't have a hundred people standing around filming every interaction and uploading it to where millions of people could see it.

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This theory falls apart in the light of the above data. It comes down to rhetoric and the methods employed by ICE.

Suzette

bye and bye.

In the meantime . . .

PloverWing said:

I think the general idea is people wanting to keep what's good about their culture (faith, cuisine, art, music, etc.),

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That's only a surface view of what "culture" means that they bring with them.

Culture is not merely "faith, cuisine, art, music,_ and those visible things. That's just "surface culture."

The culture of an ethnic group also includes their "Shallow Culture." Shallow Culture is made up of the unspoke rules around everyday social interactions and norms: Courtesy, attitudes toward elders, nature or friendship, concepts of timeliness, personal space, rules about eye contact or appropriate touching. This level has a strong emotional charge. Interpretation of certain behaviors can manifest as being friendly, hostile, disrespectful, or offensive. Social violation of these norms can cause mistrust, distress, or social friction.

And the bring with them their "Deep Culture," which is the tacit knowledge and unconscious assumptions that govern world view. They include cosmology, morality, spirituality, health, and theories of group harmony. Deep culture governs how we approve of new information (epistemology). While shallow culture pertains to how moral values are socially presented, deep culture pertains to how those moral values are characterized. Deep culture defines right/wrong, respect/disrespect, honor/dishonor.

We're talking about differences in how cultures approach the very substances of human interactions and world views--"good" things from their point of view--and you're saying we're going to clash all those together...because they can't mix.

Yum!

mascarpone?

Guojing said:

Based on what you are saying “so be it”, it doesn’t matter at all whether or not you follow what Jesus commanded there?

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Um, yes, so be it means "Amen"...to what He says.

Daniel Martinovich said:

I'm not asking as a Preterist. I disagree with them as strongly as I disagree with dispensationalists and pre, mid, post, ah= millennialists as far as the scripture is concerned. But I have never seen someone cite anything other than what they believe to tag them as "heretics." So it is something I have been curious about for decades.

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And just asking , why do you disagree with. DISPENSATIONALIST , since it appears in EPH. 1:10. and in. EPH 3:2. and in.

Eph. 3:9 and in 1. Cor. 9:17 and in. COL 1:25. and in 1. Tim. 1:4. and in. Luke. 16:2 ,3 , 4. ??

dan p

Lady Bug said:

I do the three times thumping of the chest, though.

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I used to do that during the consecration when the bells are rung, but haven’t recently.

Fantine said:

Should we believe Republicans who say the January 6 insurrectionists were 'tourists'?

Obviously people who would say that have a very distorted, dysfunctional view of the truth.

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Lisa Kudrow nails this phenomenon...

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Lady Bug said:

No.

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I don’t.