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Larniavc · 2025-12-06T13:52:37-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Amish began migrating to Pennsylvania, then-regarded favorably due to the lack of religious persecution

I’m not up on American history apart from some horrible racial atrocities; who might have been doing the religious persecution at the you are referring to?

Dan Perez · 2025-12-06T13:49:20-0600

BobRyan said:
Grace began in Gen 3, the moment Adam sinned , since God has stated that to was to die, and Adam lived over 900 years after he sinned.

The Law of God is written on the heart under the New Covenant according to Jer 31 and according to Heb 8 and Heb 10.

"Sin is transgression of the Law" 1 John 3:4, still even in the NT age.

So then , it is "still a sin to take God's name in vain" just as it always was.

AND since you quoted 1 John 3;4 justing. asking what. you. say what 1. JOHN 5:18. means , that whosoever

is BORN OF GOD. , DOES NOT. SIN and the word NOT // OU. is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE

that. NEGATIVE MEANS YOU. CAN EVER. SIN EVER AGAIN , do you believe that verse. !!

And I believe that verse BUT is it for today. ??

dan p

Akita Suggagaki · 2025-12-06T13:49:13-0600

camille70 said:
It found that the information Hegseth shared had been marked "secret" and could have imperiled American troops had it been intercepted by a foreign adversary, the two people who have read the report said. The evaluation by the Defense Department Inspector General also concluded that Hegseth violated military regulations by using his personal phone for official business, according to those people.

Ya, total exoneration like they say.

MotoToTheMax · 2025-12-06T13:48:50-0600

Aryeh Jay said:
I think I've heard of it, what's it called?

Project 2025

Larniavc · 2025-12-06T13:48:41-0600

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rjs330 said:
Islamists would have no problem with killing them.

Are Christian’s being killed in Islamic countries?

Aryeh Jay · 2025-12-06T13:48:40-0600

wing2000 said:
would it not be better of use of our resources to interdict that vessel?

How could we satisfy the lust for blood doing that?

CLEEB · 2025-12-06T13:48:15-0600

Adonay said:
This is such a tough one something I have struggled with, I always feel no matter where I try something not right but that could be me, I agree with sabbath blessing pray on it .

Go to GOD in prayer and confess to HIM your fear and ignorance of HIS way and truth. Ask GOD to have mercy on you and for HIM to teach you HIS ways. Psalm 25:8-9 James 1:5 James 4:10 No man can do this for you. Jesus gave his life so that you can have a connection to GOD, use it, forget men and their churches. Men can lie to you but GOD will not. Work out your own salvation in fear and trembling. No man can do this for you either. I did this 30 years ago and have no regrets.

Larniavc · 2025-12-06T13:46:13-0600

iluvatar5150 said:
Moving beyond immigrants, evangelicals have long advocated for living somewhat removed from "worldly" society.

If Christians did that properly things would better.

BPPLEE · 2025-12-06T13:44:10-0600

durangodawood said:
Candace Owens is where the whole right wing reality disconnection industry leads. Not shocked when they turn on each other for some advantage.

She started out as a liberal, criticizing Republicans and started a website that doxxed conservatives. Somewhere amidst criticism for the doxxing she started to criticize progressives

wing2000 · 2025-12-06T13:42:33-0600

Servus said:
Speeding towards the US, is not the same as speeding to the US. I also said anyone who thinks we're talking about drug carrying speed boats making a nonstop trip from Venezuela to the US aren't putting much thought into logistics.

You should be more carful when making critiques on wording.

As it turns out, the boat wasn't even traveling toward the U.S. [for the geography challenged, Suriname is located East of Venezuela].

The alleged drug traffickers killed by the US military in a strike on September 2 were heading to link up with another, larger vessel that was bound for Suriname — a small South American country east of Venezuela – the admiral who oversaw the operation told lawmakers on Thursday, according to two sources with direct knowledge of his remarks.

...

US drug enforcement officials say that trafficking routes via Suriname are primarily destined for European markets. US-bound drug trafficking routes have been concentrated on the Pacific Ocean in recent years.

Now, where was that larger vessel headed?

If the U.S. ....would it not be better of use of our resources to interdict that vessel?

Larniavc · 2025-12-06T13:42:21-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
And one of those crucial differences is that the Christianity's texts make no direct prescription for consolidation of government power and religious power, whereas, it's a fundamental idea in the Islamic texts.

But they both have members who call for the death of the gays today.

RDKirk · 2025-12-06T13:39:44-0600

Say it aint so said:
The more the US as a nation moves towards an increase in unfettered gun access, the more problems it will create.
It's not rocket science.

Study Finds Significant Increase in Firearm Assaults in States that Relaxed Conceal Carry Permit Restrictions
A new study by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health found that the average rate of assaults with firearms increased an average of 9.5 percent relative to forecasted trends in the first 10 years after 34 states relaxed restrictions on civilians carrying concealed firearms in public.

That study was more nuanced than you are presenting it. For instance:

The study found that moving to less restrictive laws was associated with a 24 percent increase in the rate of assaults with firearms (12.75 per 100,000) when individuals convicted of violent misdemeanors were eligible to obtain concealed-carry licenses. The researchers also found that states with shall issue laws that had live-fire firearm safety training requirements did not see the significant increases in firearm assaults that were estimated for states that lacked such requirements.

So, yes, it is less safe when laws permit people previously convicted of violent misdemeanors to carry guns. And, yes, it is less safe when live-fire safety training is not required. That does not mean when carry is permitted but persons are required to have live-fire training and persons previously convicted of violent crimes are not permitted also results in an increase in firearm assaults.

Let's also remember that "firearm assaults" include cases where a woman was threatened by a man, "brandished" a weapon, but the incident went no further than that.

Akita Suggagaki · 2025-12-06T13:38:41-0600

The Barbarian said:
The Constitution forbids government support of religion entirely, not just support for a particular religion. On the other hand, students can express such beliefs if they do it without school support. For example, they can make a poster showing a religious belief if the assignment is to make a poster for a particular subject. When I was teaching science, some students elected to do that. I touched bases with my administrator, who said he'd back me up.

Teaching myth as myth is not supporting religion. It contextualizes it.

CLEEB · 2025-12-06T13:37:02-0600

RamiC said:
What is your basis for believing this? Although I agree that clergy who are not authentic are a bad enough thing.

So if God called someone to lead a church, that is not a man teaching instead, they can be called to nuture faith among a group of people while God teaches the gathered people what they need to know.

There are true, false and sincere seeking believers in most Christian gathering, I would expect. I am not about to quit church just because there is now more than one variety. I was born almost 2000 years after Pentecost, Jesus can cope with this fact, I go to the same denomination as the people who inspired and guided my faith in the first place, that was what put me in with Pentecost. I am not losing sleep over other Christians connecting to the same Holy Ghost in some other place, I am too busy being delighted that they found Him too.

Ephesians 4 there is only one church. Unless you are called and chosen by GOD your not in it. The teachings of Christ and the Apostles does not change over time. All human ministers are only extra mediators that are unconverted themselves and there is only one mediator between GOD and man, Jesus Christ. Many in that day will say Lord, Lord but Jesus rejects them. Matthew 7:13-14 & 22-23 Many will seek to enter the narrow door but will not be able. Luke 13:24 Many are called but few are chosen. Few are chosen but many rejected. We are to work out OUR OWN SALVATION in fear and trembling, this makes it incumbent on each person to be responsible for their own salvation, not farming it out to someone who thinks they are a pastor. The true Pentecost elect saints are called a remnant , Romans 11:5 Notice it is always the many that are disqualified, only the few are approved.

Apple Sky · 2025-12-06T13:34:58-0600

Hentenza said:

Ah! Bless you too ^_^

Say it aint so · 2025-12-06T13:34:04-0600

Always in His Presence said:
From your own link:

Admiral Frank Bradley, who was the head of the Joint Special Operations Command at the time, concluded that the wreckage was likely being kept afloat because there was cocaine inside and could drift long enough to be recovered, said the sources.
So Bradley decided that, in order to complete the mission assigned by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and neutralize the threat posed by the drug boat, he would need to attack the vessel again.

BTW - I'm not a dude - I don't work on a horse ranch

Obliterated - definition - : to remove from existence : destroy utterly all trace, indication

Which, Dude, Madam, is illegal. So illegal it is the exact example used in the military code as an example of illegality.

keras · 2025-12-06T13:34:04-0600

Tom8907 said:
Under the new covenant, we are his chosen people.

Correct:
1 Peter 2:9-10 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a dedicated nation....claimed by God as His own......
Revelation 5:9-10 ,,,,by the blood of Jesus, bought for God, peoples from every tribe, race, nation and language.......and they shall reign on earth.

Ethnic Israel has had the Kingdom taken from them;
Matthew 21:43 ....I will give the Kingdom to the peoples who bear the proper fruit.
Matthew 8:11-12 Many people will come from the East and the West, to sit with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.....but those who were born to the Kingdom will be thrown out into the dark. ......

We Christian peoples are those who will occupy all of the Holy Land. The fulfilment of Romans 9:24-26 and Hosea 1:10

wing2000 · 2025-12-06T13:33:16-0600

Oh look! The U.S. Coast Guard interdicts and arrest drug runners. Of course Trump could ramp up such operations....and carry out a legal interdiction operations with the support of the U.S. Navy.

Why didn't he?

The Coast Guard cutter Munro seized more than 20,000 pounds of cocaine in a single drug interdiction mission Tuesday, the largest seizure a national security cutter had completed involving a go-fast vessel.

New video footage shared with Fox News Digital depicts Coast Guard forces, including a sniper from the service’s Helicopter Interdiction Tactical Squadron (HITRON) based in Jacksonville, Florida, utilizing disabling fire against a go-fast vessel as it completes a drug interdiction mission for Operation

Cool [Fox exclusive] video here: (but sorry, no exploding boats)

Coast Guard helicopter sniper takes out narco-boat engines in stunning exclusive video

EXCLUSIVE: The Coast Guard seized over 20,000 pounds of cocaine from a go-fast vessel during Operation Pacific Viper, a joint U.S. initiative to counter drug trafficking.

www.foxnews.com

Dave... · 2025-12-06T13:32:10-0600

Dan Perez said:
Hi DAVE and there are three mentions pf PARADISE

# 1 ABRHAM BOSOM

# 2 The the thief on. the cross where CHRIST said today thou shall be with me in. Paridise to n. ABRAHAM BOSOM

# 3. AND IN. 2 Cor 12:5 which has noting to do with ABRAHAMS BOSOM

# 4 And in ISA 5:14 HELL has enlarged it self

# 5 AND HELL HAS MANY COMPARTMENTS CALLED

# A. HELL

# B HADES

# C. SHEOL

# D GEHENNA

# E. ABYSS

# F. OUTER DAKENESS

# G BOTTEMLESS PIT

# H. LAKE OF FIRE

# I. TARTANUS

BUT 2 COR 12:5 has nothing to do with with the above as it speaks to the BODY OF CHRIST !!

dan p

I changed a Psalm passage noted above, but I didn't change that part. It originally said 2 Corinthians 12:2-4. Here it is from the NKJV. I think that I know what happened. When you hold the arrow over that passage, it only shows it down to about halfway in verse four. You need to click on the "more" to get the rest of verse four.

2 Corinthians 12:2-4 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago--whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know, God knows--such a one was caught up to the third heaven. And I know such a man--whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows-- how he was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.

Say it aint so · 2025-12-06T13:31:54-0600

Hentenza said:
A sword is a weapon.

Oddly enough, and to my knowledge and feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but that Luke sword blurb is not found any other of the Gospels.

RDKirk · 2025-12-06T13:31:42-0600

Fantine said:
Personally I believe that any and all "carry" makes us less safe, and I think that all those who read the Gospels with an open heart and mind would heed Jesus' message about non-violence.

Broken Arrow seems like a great place to live, and I would guess it's an affluent suburb of Tulsa. I think that it's a great place to live because fewer people are carrying--not because they carry.

I once read that people are mourning the end of the "gun 'culture?'" T'hey are growing up in suburban and urban areas and aren't going hunting.

Fewer college educated people own guns. Fewer suburbanites and urban dwellers own guns. People who grew up in a gun-free atmosphere don't own guns. Gun ownership is least prevalent in the northeast.

I'm proof positive. Grew up in the northeast, had a dad who never fired a gun after WWII ended, grew up in the suburbs (was born in the city), college-educated and married someone who is also a college grad. My children never owned guns, either (although they did fish a little as children, they never hunted.)

And so Broken Arrow, although (I'm sure) Republican and located in the south, has lots of demographics indicating non-gun ownership. How fortunate you are to live there.

The demographics of gun ownership

Understanding gun ownership in America is not as simple as knowing who does and does not own a gun. Some Americans who don’t personally own guns live with

www.pewresearch.org

That whole post is more about affluence than guns.

RDKirk · 2025-12-06T13:29:37-0600

Dale said:
Those who say that open carry of guns causes no problems should consider something that happened in Jacksonville, FL, last December. Deputies pulled a man over and ordered him out of the car. He had a gun in a holster. The Deputies decided that was legal. (I’m not so sure.) Still, they did not want to talk to an armed man at a traffic stop. One Deputy tried to lift the gun out of the holster. Maybe it was a tight fit, and did not come out easily. Deputy Mindy Cardwell wound up shooting driver Jason Arrington in the leg with his own gun.

It should not have come out easily. A good open-carry holster will be specifically designed not to release the gun except from the proper angle and with the proper manipulation of the person wearing it.

This is a point of serious contention. On one hand, I can understand an officer being uncomfortable talking to someone wearing a firearm. At the same time, I think if the situation was significant enough to order the suspect out of the vehicle, it was probably serious enough to have the suspect disarm himself, even if under the drawn weapon of the officer.

Dave... · 2025-12-06T13:27:24-0600

Guojing said:
Interesting how you lump words together to assume they are referring to the exact same thing.

So, in your point of view, all the OT saints are in heaven now, alright.

Yes, they are in Heaven.

Before the cross John 3:13-15. That Psalm passage in post #21 was the wrong one. I fixed it. It said Psalm 16:19, but I meant Psalm 16:10-11. That was to show that what was called Sheol in the OT, is called Hades in the NT.

Always in His Presence · 2025-12-06T13:26:16-0600

Say it aint so said:
A video of the attack, shown to U.S. lawmakers on Thursday and described to Reuters by two sources familiar with the imagery, showed smoke clearing and two men, who had somehow lived through the blast, clinging to a severed section of the front of the vessel in a futile effort to survive.

They were shirtless, unarmed and carried no visible communications equipment. They also appeared to have no idea what had just hit them, or that the U.S. military was weighing whether to finish them off. "The video follows them for about an hour as they tried to flip the boat back over. They couldn't do it," --Reuters

Dude....come on...

From your own link:

Admiral Frank Bradley, who was the head of the Joint Special Operations Command at the time, concluded that the wreckage was likely being kept afloat because there was cocaine inside and could drift long enough to be recovered, said the sources.

So Bradley decided that, in order to complete the mission assigned by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and neutralize the threat posed by the drug boat, he would need to attack the vessel again.

BTW - I'm not a dude - I don't work on a horse ranch

Obliterated - definition - : to remove from existence : destroy utterly all trace, indication

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