It’s too zesty, I estimate.

ZESTY

Vanellus said:

Given the amount of time Benaiah468 devotes to writing so many words in this thread I really think he should be able to find away that explained that I didn't "say" this - this was part of a quote from a South African newspaper which I included in my post.

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This is my only ignored account. They’re probably just killing time like the rest of us and aren’t a professional social media presence, at all.

GoldenKingGaze said:

In the early days the young Andronicus and Junias were not yet distinguished and mentioned in Romans about 65 AD then they had become so. There were 11 surviving apostles, James had died. And the apostles could only confer through the ancient postal system. And there were ten thousand believers to sort through, across Russia, Greece, India, Egypt and Rome. We alive today should be able to bear witness to the fact of the resurrection. So I disagree.

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The 11 surviving apostles were guided by God to choose Matthias as the replacement for Judas Iscariot. Later, God called the converted Saul/Paul to be an apostle. Yes, all Christians should bear witness to the resurrection, but that doesn't make us apostles.

Bradskii said:

People don't accept concepts like gay marriage because of any activism. They accept it because they were told by some that it meant the end of western civilisation! That the sky was going to fall! That society would crumble! And then...it didn't.

People thought 'Hey, life just goes as it always did. So Dave in accounts got married to Pete and...nothing changed. Everything is just the same. We were lied to'.

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And yet Dave & Pete are the evidence that it’s all just going to heck! (Somehow)

childeye 2 said:

I'm talking about immigrants like dreamers who have built productive lives that contribute to the community.

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Irrelevant. The laws are written to allow good people in and that they have to prove that before they come. The laws are not written to allow everyone to come in and then sort it out later. Obey the laws.

childeye 2 said:

And I'm talking about asylum seekers who genuinely seek asylum

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The majority of them do not meet the requirements.

childeye 2 said:

And I'm talking about a president who says those types of immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country,

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Those arent rhe ones hes referring to.

Here's the what he said:

"That’s what they’ve done. They poison mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just to three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world. They’re coming into our country from Africa, from Asia, all over the world."

He also clarified his remarks on Truth Social.

asserting on Truth Social that "illegal immigration is poisoning the blood of our nation. They’re coming from prisons, from mental institutions — from all over the world.”

Now I know its not nice language and Trump has tendencies not to be precise. But he has used this type of language when talking about criminals and rapists who are coming over rhe border. Which of course we have learned is true. There are murderers and rapists and other criminals, traffickers etc coming over the border. If YOU arw not referring to those people in your comments the Trump isnt referring to nice illegals in his, especially when clarifying.

So let's just get off rhe bandwagon here.
There are decent people coming as well as bad people coming. But ALL if them rhat are coming illegally are coming illegally regardless. And they should be sent back if caught no matter how long they've been here. This is not a olley olley oxen free country. No country is.

childeye 2 said:

How exactly is my suggestion that you don't experience the dehumanizing oppression that immigrants do, proof that I don't think in dichotomies?

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I shared why.

childeye 2 said:

The bottom line is God sees what's happening, and He knows what He's doing.

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Yes he does. And he wants us to not ignore the weightier measures of justice and mercy.

rjs330 said:

Yes, and thats not what is happening here.

That's why they have to prove their case. The majority can't. They should be shipped home. If they can, then they should be allowed to stay.

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Why can’t we just accept them as immigrants?

Our population is diminishing, we’ll soon need immigrants, otherwise, we won’t have enough people to keep everything running.
Then the world will watch as we topple from the pinnacle of the economic world and plummet towards ignominy.
But at least we didn’t compromise.

Godcrazy said:

I notice he takes all thoughts and if one pops up about different things and urge to do, it is taken it is gone poof just like that. Then I get a scripture in my mind or what God wants. It is automatic. I do not even have the desire to do what is wrong or what was coming. none. I get an instant strong dislike against everything that is unbiblical. then the same process follows. Then I fall over teachings about it. and bible verses. it just happening .it literally feels like you are sitting there on the tree and getting pruned. very gently though. and yes he pops the good thoughts about what he wants in your head and about his work

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Yes and I think also we come to realise, but there for the grace of God go I. We see the weakness and depravity of our fallen human nature and frankly it scares us to God. We thank God that there is such a Father God who loves us that hHe knows us through Christ and that by grace we can overcome ourselves and the lies, and hate and evil in the world.

But it is an ongoing transition. I actually heard someone say the other day that no one person can go without sinning at some point even when saved. I am sure some live near perfect lives. But I also think to some extent because of our fallen nature we are blind to some and we can become aware and do better. It may be one of omission rather than commission.

But its the (state of being) and the disposition that we are sinners and without God we are by nature going to practice sin that keeps us in fear and respect for God as well. Which at the same time we are transformed more fully that we become Christ like and want to obey God out of returned love even sacrificing our lives as Christ did.

Which for humans is a radical and hard thing to become on their own I think. At least as far as any human made idea of reason to do so. Which is sort of testiment to God as with the disciples and early Christians I think. As Christians will be called to be today and in the future.

That I believe is the transformative power of Christ. That it can be all things, in all times as things change that it will speak the truth of Christ and that when the time is needed, or that faith is tested it will shine through and people will see this in reality and look to Gods truth inn Christ.

But as with the battle truth and good and evil there is a spiritual battle brewing and a change in the season and the figs are beginning to fall.

Tuur said:

If every case in law is unique, then decisions wouldn't often be based on precedence. Either a president can order troops into a city or state to put down insurrection; enforce the law; or to preserve order or a president cannot.

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We all agree that these are “extraordinary times”, what we disagree on is what makes them so.
The President sure seems like he really needs to invade (some of) the several states to “save” them, after some fashion, for no other reason than he wants there to be peace across the land…once he’s finished. If he got some sort of “Prize” for that, I’m sure that he’d accept it with dignity and grace.

BCP1928 said:

But not to the Christian right. But neoliberal is what I meant.. Neoliberalism is authoritarian, but it is an authoritarian economic system. Fascism is an authoritarian political system. As far as I can tell, Trump is trying for something different. Democratic neoliberals are globalists--think Bill Clinton and his NAFTA--but Trump, having stolen neoliberal influence and campaign money from the Democrats--wants to be a nationalistic neoliberal. He seems to be making heavy weather of it now, who knows if he will succeed. So far he has kept the working class divided and distracted with the culture war--that's what he uses the Christian Right for. But that won't last. Pretty soon the working class will realize that he means to do no more for them than the Democrats did. I'm all for bread and circuses, but the glitter goes off the circus when there is no bread.

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And nobody’s talking about the Epstone files, neither!

ViaCrucis said:

So in your mind opposing fascism is fascist? You should say that to brave men who gave their lives defending freedom in the Pacific and Europe during WW2. I'm sure that'll go over great.

Any other American heroes you want to insult?

-CryptoLutheran

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There’s two versions of fascism being discussed:

1. Society is getting “too free”, people are “deciding” to be the opposite-sex and that’s so foreign that it has to be “bad”. We didn’t used to have to think about such people and now they’re traipsing down our thoroughfares. While everyone is allowed to be free, that freedom ought to be more comfortable for everyone (and we don’t just mean white people), though they’re there too!

We need to only be as free as we need to be, too much freedom is clearly not working as our prison population is near the highest, (ironically enough), if we support the President in all of his endeavors then surely he’ll bring a reign of bliss, once we’re done with the “dirty work”! Keeping the guns was a great idea!


2. The President of the United States has assured us that there are “enemies from within” and he’s going to “deal with them” and will do that, whether we want him to or not, what a guy!

Who gets to decide who’s an “enemy”, Trump?

Sure, let’s each trust this man with our lives.

Matt5 said:

President of El Salvador, Nayib Bukele on X:

"If you don’t impeach the corrupt judges, you CANNOT fix the country. They will form a cartel (a judicial dictatorship) and block all reforms, protecting the systemic corruption that put them in their seats." / X

https://x.com/nayibbukele/status/1894547479367938142

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President of El Salvador, Navib Bukele "We're trying to challenge the gangs, not by repression, but by competing to get the young people to our side." https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/nayib-bukele-quotes

Here's some more Presidential quotes from another nation. President Rodrigo Duterte of the Philippines who is currently on trial in the Hague for war crimes. He killed an estimated 12 to 30k in the Philippines war on drugs. Perhaps these quotes strike a nerve?

• You drug pushers, hold-up men and do-nothings, you better go out because I'd kill you.
  
  
• Please, don't order me around... Or would you rather that I declare martial law?
  
  
• Hitler massacred three million Jews. Now, there is three million drug addicts. I’d be happy to slaughter them.

Or perhaps some want a more Putin like Constitution?

"Under the amended Article 83 of the Constitution, the president will have the power to submit to the Federation Council, the upper house of the federal legislature, requests to terminate powers of judges of various ranks, among them the chairman, deputy chairman and justices of the Constitutional Court; the chairman, deputy chairpersons and justices of the Supreme Court; and the chairpersons, deputy chairpersons and judges of courts of cassation and courts of appeal." How Putin’s Constitutional Amendments Affect the Judiciary

Pepperdoodle said:

Jimmy Kimmel is returning to ABC on Tuesday, Disney says

"Jimmy Kimmel Live!" will return to ABC on Tuesday after the late-night host's comments on Charlie Kirk's death caused the network to pull the show.

www.businessinsider.com

What do you think?
Agree or disagree?

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Just on Kimmels return. I never really watched him. I don't always get American humur though some of it is side splitting when I do get it. Like the Adam Sandler or Jim Carey comedy and some of SNL with Chevy Chase and all that ect.

But from what I have seen of Kimmel he always seemed too serious when telling the jokes. The body language didn't match the humor. Anyway that may have ben because I did not get the humor. But I sense theres more to this than just humor.

I am not sure people will believe him now. But its not just Kimmel. Its the general humor at the expense of others or spreading lies. Or just making comedy about politics. I have always thought that entertainers should stay right out of politics as far as letting their personal opinions influence their art.

If they are going to make fun then do it to both sides. Just joke about life and issues in general. Make a commentry on life as it is. Thats what comedy use to be about. Not injecting some poisonous political message that actually ends up not being funny lol.

I see these celebs like De Niro who I love as an actor and looked up to, their reputations and legacy and bank accounts go straight down the drain as soon as they open their mouths on political issues today. Stick to acting Bobby please.

And Snow White, Roger and Emma well lol. Roger what are you doing. You are the Floyd don't tarnish that for the many who grew up with your music lol.

eleos1954 said:

We strive to keep the law (10 commandments) out of love and for no others reasons.

John 14:15​

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15 “If you love me, keep my commands.

Demonstration of Love:

• The phrase isn't just a feeling but a call to action, where keeping Christ's commandments serves as tangible evidence of one's love for Him.
  
  
• • Obedience as a Sign:
    Following His instructions is a way to show and test one's love for Jesus, rather than simply confessing it verbally.
  • Intimate Connection:
    The passage also connects keeping commandments to experiencing the presence of the Father and the Holy Spirit, leading to a deeper relationship with Christ.
  • Integral to Jesus' Teachings:
    This theme of love expressed through obedience is a recurring idea in the Gospel of John and is central to the New Testament.
  • Beyond a List of Rules:
    "Keeping His commands" includes more than just following a set of laws; it involves a complete lifestyle of loving and serving others as Christ demonstrated.

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Xeno.of.athens said:

"My commandments is a reference to the commandments that Jesus gave to the apostles, it is not so much a reference to the ten commandments that God gave through Moses.

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The way to love God is by being a doer of His character traits, such as the way to love justice is by being a doer of justice, the way to love holiness is by being a doer of His instructions for how to be holy as He is holy, and so forth. In other words, the goal of everything that God has commanded in the Law of Moses is to teach us how to love different aspects of His character, which is why the Bible repeatedly states in both the OT and the NT that the way to love God is by obeying His commandments. In John 15:10, Jesus used a parallel statement to equate his commandments with those of the Father, so I see no justification for limiting John 14:15 to a specific subset of God's commandments. Jesus quoted Deuteronomy three times in order to defeat the temptations of Satan, which included saying that man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that comes from the mouth of God, so what Jesus gave to the Apostles is every word that comes from the mouth of God, which includes the Ten Commandments and everything else that God spoke to Moses (Deuteronomy 5:31-33).

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

Stop trying to deflect...it IS true, as you yourself admitted. Stop trying to define the terms of it. It is historically true in a historical context.

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We all agree that the Democratic Party had been the “party of slavery” and the basis for the KKK, (that’s why we read history, to learn facts that we can all (more-or-less) agree upon), like how yesteryears’ problems seemed to be instigated by conservatives not wanting to share the freedom with others that they had.

Republicans are “allowed” to be liberals, still, not that there are any, but the party is perfectly comfortable with them existing, far away from the levers of power.

We should be more careful assigning labels to judges without at least looking at their record. This judge has had one notable case overturned on appeal. You will see she took the side of the policeman, and ruled against the protester that was blinded by rubber bullets. The appeals court did not. She likely would have been backed by the Supreme Court, but the case was settled fro a million dollars by the city of Salem.

Her background includes prosecuting narcotics and trafficking cases, serving to help Kenneth Starr in the case against President Clinton, she even questioned Monica Lewinsky personally. She seems to be a first class judge, the kind you would want on any case. After her background working for Starr, was disqualifying her from moving up, she registered as a GOP. She was appointed by Bush as a US attorney, then later by Trump for the U.S. Federal District court. Source: Karin Immergut - Wikipedia

"A jury in October 2022 unanimously found that a Salem police officer was liable for McCrae’s permanent vision loss when he fired rubber bullets while trying to disrupt a downtown demonstration. But U.S. District Judge Karin Immergut six months later dropped the lawsuit after ruling that the officer had no way of knowing he violated the protester’s rights when he shot her with rubber bullets, a legal principle known as qualified immunity.
Now, three judges in the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals have reversed Immergut’s ruling and restored the jury verdict."

Source: Protester wins appeal, regains $1 million payout for Salem officer’s excessive force - Salem Reporter

ARBITER01 said:

We obey Jesus. We keep His commandments under the new covenant, not the commandments of the law of moses.



"If you love me, you will keep my commandments" (John 14:15).

"by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments" (1 John 2:3)

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In Matthew 4:15-23, Jesus began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, which was a light to the Gentiles, and the Law of Moses was how his audience knew what sin is (Romans 3:20), so repenting from our disobedience to it is a central part of the Gospel of the Kingdom. Jesus also set a sinless example for us to follow of how to walk in obedience to the Law of Moses, and as his followers we are told to follow his example (1 Peter 2:21-22) and that those who are in Christ are obligated to walk in the same way that he walked (1 John 2:6). So Jesus spent this ministry teaching his followers to obey the Law of Moses by word and by example and the reason why he established the New Covenant was not in order to nullify anything that he spent his ministry teaching or so that we could continue to have the same lawlessness that caused the New Covenant to be needed in the first place, but rather the New Covenant still involves following the Law of Moses (Jeremiah 31:33).

Jesus quoted three times from Deuteronomy in order to defeat the temptations of Satan, which included saying that man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that comes from the mouth of God, so I see no justification for thinking that the commands of Jesus are something other than or contrary to anything that has come from the mouth of God. In John 14:23-24, Jesus said that his teachings were not his own but that of the Father, and John 15:10, he used a parallel statement to equate his commands with those of the Father. The Bible repeatedly says in both the OT and the NT that the way to love God is by obeying His commandments, which is exactly the same as the way to love the Son, so again there is no justification for thinking that his commandments are something different.

childeye 2 said:

Legalism seems to think that people were made to serve the law rather than the law was made to serve people.

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Yes, and thats not what is happening here.

childeye 2 said:

Since the law supports accommodating asylum seekers with the understanding that they are fleeing some form of persecution in their own countries, it makes no sense to break the intent of the law and send them back to their own country.

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That's why they have to prove their case. The majority can't. They should be shipped home. If they can, then they should be allowed to stay.

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If calling out sin is harsh words, then so be it.

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The whole idea of "harsh" words is a subjective one. What one person thinks harsh another thinks truth or for the best in the long run. If someone points out that a person is unhealthily over weight this is not harsh as in picking on the person or demeaning them because of their weight. Though we know this happens and people are cruel.

But I don't think Charlie ever spoke in a way that was being malice towards others. In fact his words (if you want to use words as the measure of a person) which is wrong in the first place. But his actual words as far as someone being trans or gay was that God loved them as much as anyone and their trans or being gay itself is not wrong. He protected their rights in that sense.

But he also spoke truth and that he could do that in the lions den is a testiment to his ability to engage. Yes it can get controversial but that is what is needed. That people can talk about difficult and controversial issues. That they can speak their truth about it.

We see many, many people speak for LGBTIQ+ communities and say just as controversial and provocative things in expressing their beliefs and point of view. That is what called engaging with different beliefs and views.

That is a fundemental principle that free democratic nations were built on. I like what Jordan Peterson once said in the debate on free speech. In order to have free speech you have to be willing to offend some people as there is never agreement. Kirk I think would die defending a persons right to that free speech even if it opposed his.

Whereas someone decided that certain free speech should be completely cancelled. Which really regardless of the specific example of KIrks death and the rights and wrongs is more a blight on the cultural and national state of affairs that shows the poor health of the nation and where its at today.

I should add that this is not just an American phenomena and is happening throughout most western nations and especially in Britain and Europe. In a strange way it is also tied to the current conflict between Hamas and Islamists and Isreal and the West.

stevevw said:

At about 16 minute mark mentions the vases scanned from Petrie museum by the Adam Young and Karoyl research group where around 11 vases fell in the precise class.

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They use a different quality criteria, precise and imprecise means different hings for Maximus Energy and Karoly and the Artifact Foundation.

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We know that Olgas vases fall in the hand made and imprecise class in from Maximus. We know the precise class from Maximus is on par with the precision from the vases tested at the Petrie museum. So it logically follows that the vases from the Petrie museum are not the same as Olgas vases and are way more precise.

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Olgas O1 cluster with the green Petrie vases.

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Besides I keep saying most people acknowledge a pretty sophisticated lathe was used to get the high precision in the circularity and symmetry. Olgas method cannot produce that high precision as we can see how the traditional method wobbels too much to produce precise circularity.

I agree that in testing a higher expectation is required because its actually testing a theory and needs a high standard of evidence. As more vases get tested that are exactly the same as these so called 'unknown provedence' this will lend more support for their athenticity.

I am not saying a vase with similar precision could not have been done in the mid 20th century. I am saying it would have taken our best tech at that time and arguing that it was expensive and hard to access that equipment and totally unnecessary when no one worried about precision.
Its a far fetched arguement to claim that someone would even bother. We would expect to find fakes with less precision as no one would know and be bothered with that precision. They could make one less precise and still get away with it as no one was measuring the vases down to the micron level.

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Many fake artifacts have been produced since Napoleons invasion of Egypt, how well made the fakes are follow a distribution some of them are going to be trash and some of them are going to look fantastic. The ones that are of high quality have a much higher chance to be spared for posterity. So we have a selection of fake but nice and high quality vases, going through time. So people did care about precision even back then. I don't find it far-fetched that some fakes can be of very high precision.

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I am talking about all the vases that have been tested. Maximus is only one researcher. I am specifically talking about the vases tested by Adam Young and Károly Póka research team that tested vases from the Petrie museum twice now.

Actually I gave you the link already. His results show up to 11 Petrie vases in the precision class. They also tested Olgas and they were as Maximus found in the imprecise class and magnitudes lower. Karoyl also addresses the use of a modern tech wheel on Olgas vase.

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They are using different definitions of precise and imprecise.

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Yes, the explicit statement is they are on display as genuine vases in the Petrie museum as genuine vases lol.

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That is not a statement where they guarantee their authenticity.

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I mean fixating on the few vases with short provedence as fakes when this has not been established and then use this to refute the precision vases altogether.

Of course its a science. Metrology is a science. The science of measurement.

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That's not what I said, I said the act of taking measurements is not science by itself. Metrology is the science about measurements, and yes they do take many measurements but they also use that data in order to further our understanding how we should take measurements.

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Ok Peer review lol. All this insistence on peer review.

I am not saying that anyone should avoid peer review. This will happen. As I said in some ways its already happened as papers have been written. Just not submitted to any journal as yet. Its ongoing. But those papers are open for peer review. You can or a expert can review them and publish a paper refuting them.

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Why should anyone publish a paper refuting them when all they have done is put it up as podcasts and on their own webpages? What we write here carry as much weight as their findings, it is also public and readable for everyone.

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Lol I think theres enough scientists or at least people who claim to be experts objecting and complaining. Like the Scientists against Myth. Or like some on this thread even. They may claim to be experts and have a right to submit a paper refuting the findings.

In the meantime they are quite happy to do a sort of backyard peer review on this thread. Similar to what you are doing in asking questions, posing arguements for why its not the case. Thats ok in the meantime I think.

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Because this is the arena Maximus Energy and the Artifact Foundation have chosen. They could instead send their manuscripts to a journal, if they wanted to interact with subject matter experts.

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Yes there are and some on this thread are trying to refute them now in questioning the measurements found by metrology. The metrology findings are from scientific testing. Testing the measurements on the vases with scientific equipment.

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Measurements are not found by metrology, metrology informs those measuring how to take good measurements.

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Actually no, they are offered as scientific tests done with proper equipment. The numbers don't lie. If a object is 6cm long and the equipment measures it at 6cm long it cannot lie. If the test is repeatedby independent testers and they find its also 6cm long its good science and not just say so.

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Ok, so it is 6 cm long. what were the tolerances of the measuring equipment, how was the measurement setup, etc. They could try to get published in a metrology journal if they want, no one is stopping them.

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I think your getting mixed up with the speculation about what the measures mean. But the numbers don't lie and if they show modern tech was needed then thats not say so.

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But without good provenance, a measurement is inconsequential. A number in and of itself can not say that modern tech is needed, that is an interpretation.

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First the tests are not done on a podcase but on site at the Petrie museum. Second the light scaning creates a light grid that captures the entire vase no matter how it stands. So long as you capture the entire vase. PLus the scan is plug into the softwar so tells the tester what is exactly being captured.

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You were the one that said they did it live.

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But this is my point. You question the method or effort but its ok for you to do that without the same rigor of proper re testing and peer review. That someone skeptics objections are science. The scans have been done several times by independent testers and all have the same findings. Thats good science.

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So, which are the overlapping Petrie vases in Maximus Energys dataset and the Artifact Foundations dataset. Why are none of the Petrie vases in Maximus Energys dataset in his precise class while the Artifact Foundation say some are. This needs to be cleared up, these are questions that would hav arisen during peer-review most likely.

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What, the best one is actuallt one of the best from all vases even the ones with short provedence. Its actually more precise (0.003) on the inside than on the outside (0.004). All the precise vases have small deviations that they could only have been made by sophisticated mathing.

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Not according to the surface deviation plots, you now the colorful depictions of vases that shows indents and ridges etc.

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OK. But I think its because of the precise symmetry and circularity that could only be achieved by a lathe and not the coil method.

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All of them. If the guage metrology shows a near perfect circle around the neck of the vase or opening down to 1,000s of an inch. Then the CT, lazer or X Ray light scan shows the same parts on the same vase with the same precision but just more accurate into the micron level. Its all still showing the same results of precision to varying degrees.

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DaveHTexas said:

I have been unemployed for a long time now (19 months) due to the AI dessimation of the IT job market. Honestly nobody really saw that coming nor prepared for it. But not the point I need to make.

To make ends meet I am driving ride share, doesn't matter which one, but I am hustling my tail off, working 12 hour days to make less than 1/4 of what I was earning before just so I don't have to end up on the streets.

I know I should tithe, but on what amount?

Let's assume I earned $5,000.00 in fares, and tips last month. That number is high, but let's go with it anyway.
Now let's assume that I spend $250.00 each week on gas and toll road tolls to do this, so my net is $4,000.00, and the weekly spend on fuel and tolls is likely LOW...
Now assume further in doing this I needed $3,000.00 in vehicle repairs to keep my car SAFE to operate for myself and my riders. Now my net is $1,000.00

Do I tithe on the $5,000.00 GROSS, or the $1,000.00 NET?

For anyone paying attention, that is 288 hours to get $1,000.00 net income and a car with an added 10K miles on it. That works out to $3.47 per hour.

If you rideshare and don't tip. You may want to look at those numbers again. Would you work for $3.47 / hour and wear out a valuable asset like a car?

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In the Eastern Orthodox Church tithing is not required, nor is it required by most traditional liturgical churches in the US such as the various Anglican churches, and its fairly obvious you are not in a position to give alms.

The system of tithes, church taxes and in the UK certain landowners having maintenance responsibilities for the local parish, imposed in Western Europe was and is used used by established churches like the Church of England, the Roman Catholic Church, the Presbyterian Church of Scotland, the various Lutheran churches of Germany, the Lutheran churches of Scandinavia, the Continental Reformed churches in Prussia, the Netherlands and so on, and these churches historically provided much of what is now provided by the welfare state in those countries, and in some cases still acts as an agent of it, for example with state-funded parochial schools paid for by a church tax in countries like Germany.

By the way, in the IT industry there is strong demand for skilled cloud, AI and security professionals; the main hit has been on software development and certain types of traditional systems administration and engineering. If you can develop your skillset towards these areas you might well be able to regain employment. Also freelancers in various IT related specialties ranging from web development to systems programming can leverage AI to greatly improve productivity.

I do understand this is not the main topic of your thread, but I would be very happy to provide some specific reccommendations for professional development in another thread or privately via a conversation.

I would also be very happy to pray for you.

God bless you!