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Apple Sky · 2025-11-12T04:26:24-0600

Phil G said:
There has to be a rational explanation for the consistently reliable and high quality tv signals.

There is & I've explained it.

Dan1988 · 2025-11-12T04:19:36-0600

BNR32FAN said:
If you want to examine the context of how they’re actually drawn to Christ you need to include verse 45.

“No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day. It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught of God.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father, comes to Me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6‬:‭44‬-‭45‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

Everyone who has heard and learned from The Father. This means everyone who believes the writings of the prophets in the Old Testament. Those are the people who are being drawn by The Father.

Wrong again, God only draws His elect to Christ.
It has nothing to do with the "writings of the prophets". Most of the elect of God never read any of the writings of the prophets. Do a bit of research before you make nonsensical claims.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-12T04:17:14-0600

Phil G said:
And nobody can prove the moon is flat (even your fellow flat earther says it's shaped in a curve).

A curve yes but not a sphere, like a circle is curved but it doesn't make it a sphere.

Dan1988 · 2025-11-12T04:12:32-0600

BNR32FAN said:
And FYI Lydia was already a follower of God before she met Paul.

That's right, Paul couldn't save anyone. How can a sinner save a sinner, answer Impossible. Only God saves

stevevw · 2025-11-12T04:11:08-0600

9Rock9 said:
Mytho-history is a theory that claims Genesis should not be understood literallt (or at least not literally in the modern sense.) instead, it is largely a figurative account that expresses important theological truths and to establish Yahweh as the one true God vs the pagan religions of the Ancient World.

One argument for this view is that the Israelites would not have shared the same worldview that we modern 21st Century Westeners do. The fantastical and so-called scientific inaccuracies are accommodations rather than errors. That is, God met primeval humans at their level, and used language they would understand. Also, since the Israelites were an Ancient Near Eastern Semitic people, they were likely influenced by their surrounding neighbors such as the Caananites, Egyptians and Babylonians, and thus their texts all share similar themes and genre conventions.

Yes I think so. It seems even before Abrahams sacrifice to God humans naturally knew about God or their version of god and worship like sacrificing to them. In fact if it was not for humans knowing this then Abrahams sacrific to the one true God would have no meaning.

The stage was set beforehand in that humans knew of God. The same when God declared Himself the one true God, the great 'I AM'. It would not make sense unless there were other gods created that were competing for Godship.

The Egyptians and proto Isrealites is interesting. How they end up in Egypt and then rise up as a threat to the pharoah. How the pharoahs god was challenged by Moses's God. A battle of Gods. I think it was around this time that the pharoah made himself a god. Made all the gods into one god. Which the God of Moses established Himself as the one true God.

This has been happening through history right up until the Isrealites were a Kingdon and nation and is still going on.

9Rock9 said:
God was not concerned with presenting an accurate view of cosmology or science so much as he was with correcting the theology of the Israelites. That is, he wanted to show that sun is a creation and not a god to be worshiped, and therefore more powerful than any pagan deity.

Creation being a witness and testimony of God. We see Gods invisible qualities in the things He has made. False gods and even creation itself in the form of the pagan belief in Mother Nature have been made gods over God. Humans have a natural born knowledge of God.

The fullfillment of the old testament God is in Christ. God on earth so that there is no mistaking who is is. The only way toi God. Whereas the pagan gods lower god to humans and humans become the gods of their own world. Really the lowering of God to human level.

9Rock9 said:
Genesis contains a lot of figurative language. For instance, the account Creation week draws parallels with the ancient world practice of seven days of ceremony when constructing a new temple. This is because the cosmos is God's temple.

I have only recently switched to this view from Old Earth Creationism, so there are many things I am still unsure about, but I do think this view best accounts for both a high regard for Scripture and compatibility with modern science.

I don't think it matters so much. Like you said it is a spiritual truth which cannot be rationalised with material science. The belief in a creator God who is behind what we see is the message. It was not the product of nothing, or creation itself. Life cannot come from non life.

With this comes our conscience and our connection to the spiritual world that tells us of a spiritual truth about humankind and creation. The battle of good and evil and Gods love in sending His son to reconnect with us and restore what evil destroyed.

You can't put that in a test tube and thats all thats important. I don't think you can make a case on evolution or any material explanation because it will always be restricted to a certain aspect that does not give the full picture. That we are spiritual beings more than material ones. Our beliefs in the biblical stories speak to us beyond science and is every bit as real.

Nithavela · 2025-11-12T04:10:11-0600

Valletta said:
The future is my concern. Judge Boasberg should be impeached and convicted and those involved should be prosecuted.

Do you agree in principle with things "retroactively" being made illegal?

It is my impression that in most cases, things can only be made illegal from the moment the law is passed.

What about non-senators? Shouldn't they have similiar protection afforded to them?

Dan1988 · 2025-11-12T04:08:37-0600

BNR32FAN said:
I don’t have anyone teaching me anything about the Bible. I study the Bible for myself. The last church I attended I left years ago because I realized that their theology was incorrect. And I don’t do commentaries or listen to preachers online. I do my own study, I don’t rely on someone else telling me what the Bible does or doesn’t teach. I do occasionally like to watch debate videos to get opposing views on certain topics but that’s about the extent of how I get advice from other people.

Thank you for finally revealing that. It explains everything, God appointed Shepherds to lead and watch over Sheep like myself.

The fact that you are on your own suggests that you're not a member of the Body of Christ (the Church). You can't claim to be a Christian if you are not joined to the Body of Christ.

You have taken the law into your own hands, so you will answer to God for everything you believe and do. If my Shepherd teaches me false doctrine, then he will have to answer to God.

Those who leave the safety of the flock, always become victims of the hungry lion (Satan), who roams around seeking to devour the lost and rebellious sheep.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-12T03:58:51-0600

Phil G said:
It is not up to me to prove it.

Because you can't prove that satellites are up in space supposedly orbiting around.

Nithavela · 2025-11-12T03:57:41-0600

Sounds like the government is going to sue itself and then settle with itself.

Dan1988 · 2025-11-12T03:54:44-0600

BNR32FAN said:
Again you never explained what the verses do mean. What does it mean that the one who endures to the end will be saved? All you do is say that’s not what it means then you don’t explain what it does mean.

According to the Holy Bible (Gods Word) "only those who are indwelt and led by the Holy Spirit" enfure to the end. In other words 'the elect of God". Now how hard was that to understand, that's what the gospel of the Lord Jesus is all about.

I get the sense that you don't believe the gospel of the Lord Jesus, and you prefer the Jacobs Arminius version

Apple Sky · 2025-11-12T03:52:28-0600

Strong in Him said:
"I didn't go to Antarctica, (even though I was offered a free ticket) and I know they faked the whole thing."

They did fake it.

Strong in Him said:
Or, "I walked on the moon.

They haven't as the moon is flat & not a sphere & this guy proves it.

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Yarddog · 2025-11-12T03:46:57-0600

SoldierOfTheKing said:
Nothing personal against them, we just don't need them in the country.

We don't need either of us, either.

Strong in Him · 2025-11-12T03:46:42-0600

Apple Sky said:
I have & it is what I believe. If you believe otherwise then it is up too you to prove it.

It's not up to anyone else to prove/disprove your belief.
Whether or not your belief is based on facts, evidence and rational arguments is another thing altogether.
Saul of Tarsus believed that Jesus was the Messiah - despite having once thought otherwise. Jews and Gentiles argued with him and he spent many hours in debate, giving them facts and backing up what he said from the OT Scriptures. As a result, people were converted.

You don't believe that men walked on the moon, but all you have to back up your claim is "it was faked, Dean Odel says so and here is a YouTube clip I have found."
You don't believe the earth is a globe and all you have to back your claim is "it's faked, and here is a YouTube clip I have found."
Now you are being given information about satellites - from someone whose work involved satellites - and all you can say is, "here is a summary of a YouTube clip I have found."

If you don't know, then why would you not trust people who do?
If you haven't been somewhere - the Antarctic or the moon - why would you not trust people who have?
It's like if someone said "I've never been to Wales so I don't believe it exists - and it's obvious the language has been made up."

Strong in Him · 2025-11-12T03:27:35-0600

Apple Sky said:
One who talks confidently about their beliefs in a globe doesn't mean that their knowledge is correct either.

But when they can back it up with studies, observations, and experiments, it is more likely.

For example, "I went to Antarctica and saw the 24 hour sun." Compared with, "I didn't go to Antarctica, (even though I was offered a free ticket) and I know they faked the whole thing."
Or, "I walked on the moon. This is my story, but I can tell you that walking on the moon was not as important as knowing Jesus." Compared with, "I haven't walked on the moon or been into space; it's all faked and lies."

Apple Sky · 2025-11-12T03:26:52-0600

House Rules ......................

Apple Sky · 2025-11-12T03:24:27-0600

Phil G said:
You have yet to give any rational explanation for where satellite tv signals come from if not from a satellite.

I have & it is what I believe. If you believe otherwise then it is up too you to prove it.

Jerry N. · 2025-11-12T03:15:53-0600

CoreyD said:
@Jerry N. can you or your wife read this?

בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים would be “At the beginning,” “God,” “created.” The following breaks it down better: Three Words From The Creation - Day 1 of 4

Apple Sky · 2025-11-12T03:03:06-0600

Strong in Him said:
They can also talk confidently about their beliefs in flat earth, or whatever. But all that doesn't mean their "knowledge" is correct..

One who talks confidently about their beliefs in a globe doesn't mean that their knowledge is correct either.

keras · 2025-11-12T03:00:45-0600

Douggg said:
The Jews are blinded until the fullness of the Gentiles has been completed. So the time is coming when the Jews will no longer be blinded and will turn to Jesus and all Israel will be saved.

God will not save anyone who hates Jesus.

Douggg said:
No, the Gog/Magog attack of Ezekiel 38-39 will be on the current nation of Israel.

Scripturally impossible.
Jewish Israel is very well defended. Gog will attack an undefended people.

Making wild and unbelievable statements as you do, destroys your credibility.

stevevw · 2025-11-12T02:50:49-0600

Stopped_lurking said:
Give me an example then, and explain why it is outside the scope of science.

Do any of these articles make the case that its use would not be possible to study scientifically? Getting inspiration and tips and tricks and generating hypothesis from the local population is all fine and dandy. I'm sure imperialistic and colonial worldviews have caused distress, pain, even outright murder historically so I'm all for giving the Sami people a place at the table when planning science experiments in Sapmi. If they present a method or a result or natural phenomenon we can study it with scientific methods and try to explain it as well as giving their description a voice.

But your trying to explain this in scientific material terms which defeats the whole idea of alternative knowledge to the scientific paradigm.

The best way I can relate it to consciousness and phenomenal experiences like belief and material sciences. They belong in different paradigms or the lens by which someone sees fundemental reality. Whether its something transcedent or the causal closure of the phycial is all there is to understanding the world and reality.

Some theories in Quantum Consciousness posit that Mind is fundemental and actually creates the objective world we see. So obvious there are two ways to see the evidence. One measures the physical and the other the Mind or the phenomena beyond the mind.

Already we see a major difference where science could not even measure the transcedent aspect of reality. Therefore if there is a transcedent aspect then this must connect with the objective aspect fundementally. Thus being immersed in the transcedent or spirit gives a deeper knowledge behind what we see. Thus being able to manipulate or transcend the material world.

Its from this basis that I think ancient knowledge could be more advanced because its more aligned with fundemental reality. We can see how modern physics is now toying with the idea that Mind or consciousness is fundemental and could unlock the physical world.

But remember this is spectualtion and an hypothesis. I am not saying this is exactly the case. I don't know. I am just attempting to explain a possibility.

rusmeister · 2025-11-12T02:42:01-0600

As I said, there are nuances, and a man can hold one opinion we agree with AND one that we think he’s nuts to hold. I think all of the speech that reduces any one man to “just stupid” or “pure evil” to be expressing unintelligent thought, thought that hates acknowledging complications, lazy thought. I imagine most here probably have no conflict with Fuentes’ view on pornography, for example. In that case, admitting he is right about that would be a good start to seeing a whole, if somewhat mistaken human being rather than a caricature to be treated purely as an enemy.
I think Tucker is a bit off the rails on UFOs, for example. I also think he has gone too soft on too many of his interviewees, listening, and not challenging nearly enough. But he is right to a great extent on some aspects of both Russia and Israel, if not sufficiently informed on others. (I could say a LOT more about him and Russia.) The interview with the Iranian president was never going to work, as he seems to not know what taqiyya is, or how that would certainly be used against him in such an interview. Anyone who calls him an ”antisemite” is simply falling for propaganda. That’s what the term was invented for, the term is nonsense in that Semites also includes Arabs and other peoples; it represents a lack of thought about what things are; “anti-Jew” would be shorter, more honest, and more direct, and that’s what I myself say instead of “antisemite”.
Tucker has made it quite clear on many occasions that he is neutral towards Israel, that he only opposes the extent of support that shuts down all questioning of it, and that other sides should be considered. Sometimes he goes too far in THAT direction. I’m not trying to derail the thread, and don’t expect 100% agreement from everyone, but to point out that these people are complicated. I could equally turn the guns, so to speak, on Ben Shapiro, Michael Knowles, Andrew Klavan, etc, and state both where I think them right and where I think them wrong without condemning them on the whole as “bad people”. And if you look at the Left, I think you’ll find that quite a few of them are going to occasionally express ideas we actually agree with, even though we disagree on so many of the big issues. Again, this is not about Tucker as such but about how we refuse to sift through the ideas and fairly weigh each one on its own merits.

Oh, and I do acknowledge that Chesterton here is right, that Fr Josiah probably did vet Fuentes and decided that both his stand on pornography and his reach were worth letting him speak about pornography.

johansen · 2025-11-12T02:37:33-0600

RamiC said:
Do Sheffeild University allow their students to watch the world news?

Lol

Ive lost friends in real life because they cant handle realizing my ex wife might actually be my half sister.

But lot and his daughters

Its ok its in the bible

stevevw · 2025-11-12T02:25:23-0600

Actually there is evidence from research that modern life makes people mentally ill. We have increasing and high rates of youth mental illness. We have high rates of young adult men and women with anxiety and depression.

In some ways society is like a individual who is having a breakdown.

Look at everything that is in the media. Its all bad news and negative. But also in recent decades I think society has created an unreal idea of what makes people happy. You have to have a good job and career, make money, be popular, always show your happy. Individual fullfillment put above all else. Women told not to be married and be free and put off having a child and now they are sad they missed out as this was nature calling.

Manhood being turned into some disorder and all the fighting over identities. Everything seems to be tearing down marriages, families, aborting babies, rejecting bodies and reality itself.

Then we hear the constant grevance of climate change, the world is going to end soon as it floods or drys up. Then theres all the talk of wars and nuclear wars and terrorism. Antisemetism, assassinations of people live on TV. Its a crazy world we are living in right now. So I can understand peoples worry and bewilderment.

I think now is the time to get back to basic. Don't worry about the world or fitting in with it. Its all chaos. Of course get your job and pay your bills. Or for many they are just surviving and no one cares. But God cares and if we trust in Him we will always find the strength no matter what.

If find volunteering good. Most people who do charity are good people and worth knowing. It also gives meaning and worth by helping others. Takes your mind off your own problems and actually helps overcome them.

Something about helping brings help for yourself. Not in a selfish way. I think its the same principle of storing up riches in heaven. A value beyond money and this world which can enrich your spirit. Which builds you up and helps see things differently.

But I think its also important to not buy into the culture and world. Trying to live to their social rules. Its a jungle out there lol.

SoldierOfTheKing · 2025-11-12T02:13:30-0600

Yarddog said:
Why do people hate immigrants, whether illegal or not?

Nothing personal against them, we just don't need them in the country.

Larniavc · 2025-11-12T02:13:16-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
Are we going to act all shocked as to why they opt to want to have some words with the latter, but don't pay much attention to the former?

The probably would pay more attention to the brown gentleman in America.

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