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iluvatar5150 · 2025-11-17T08:27:08-0600

rambot said:
Nobody has a bias against blue collar workers. You would actually find that everyone you purport to be angry with for being a "socialist" would FAR father see your wages increase. We are angry you get paid so little when owners get so much more.

Yeah, I love how the ones constantly decrying the abuse and scorn directed at "the working man" are also the ones who scoff at minimum wage hikes, union rights, workplace protections, expanded health insurance coverage, and mandatory sick time and parental leave. No socialism for them! It's gotta be pure every-man-is-an-island capitalism, forgetting that, in the free market, they're not the titans. They're just the fodder.

Vambram · 2025-11-17T08:23:40-0600

GoldenBoy89 said:
You’re fine with presidents using the office to secure private business deals for themselves?

Trump and his family had an international billion dollar business LONG before he got into politics. Should that business stop growing when he became POTUS?

Fervent · 2025-11-17T08:22:28-0600

BCP1928 said:
If that were the case, wouldn't there be more support for it amongst believers?

Believers are just as infected by the kind of historical biases as unbelievers, if not more so due to a sense of corporate culpability.

BCP1928 said:
As to recency bias, wouldn't that work in your favor? Christians haven't tended to burn and torture people for doctrinal errors in some time.

Recency bias works in the favor of secular government because its the current model, any change would be disruption of the status quo and that's always resisted.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-17T08:22:25-0600

The Aldobrandini Villa.

Northern Lights.

SarahsKnight · 2025-11-17T08:21:46-0600

Dan1988 said:
Question for Julie and Sarah, what happens when the blind lead the blind?. Bingo! they both fall into a ditch/pit. But in this case we're talking about the bottomless pit

Oooooh, another eternal torment champion implicitly condemning us to hell simply because we don't share in his sick imaginations about what he personally thinks should happen to his enemies in the afterlife, sic burn! (No pun intended at that last part, Julie. XD )

I am shocked by this, I tell you!

stevevw · 2025-11-17T08:19:54-0600

johansen said:
i'm not sure its foolishness at all.

yes, there will be unforeseen consequences. being born on this earth is bad enough, but being born and finding out at say, 20-40 years of age that you're sterile because your parents did some genetic experimentation on you to make you smarter, well, you're going to have to go take anger management classes...

I'm actually surprised I didn't get totally banned for a mild but interesting argument with an old man on reddit who felt personally offended in a thread where I predicted that the ever increasing number of vaccines are going to cause significant unforeseen consequences on the order of 100 to 200 years from now.

I agree and I think we can look at our track record on messing with nature and see how its come back to bite us many times. Over time it accumulates and has a negative affect.

So imagine trying to manipulate the genetic code. The problem is we are intelligent enought to discover benefits from repairing. But trying to actually create something new into nature is a lot different. There are so many related factors that may cause problems upstream.

Richard T · 2025-11-17T08:17:11-0600

Servus said:
That's what they said about his last term. Trump has always supposedly been on the brink of losing the presidency one way or another. Or quitting the presidency for one reason or another. In all likelihood he'll finish out his second term and then go back to what he was doing before he became president. But still be very outspoken and most anything he says or tweets will carry lots of impact and be publicized by the media.

I do not go by others. Most of them including some Christians that basically prophesied the Biden would not finish his term were wrong. All I said is Trump would be fortunate to finish his term. That could be implied to any President or politician worldwide. Not many Trump's age can stand the rigors of such an office. I do think too the challenges of his Presidency might also be ultra frustrating if the House and/or Senate turns democratic. Public opinion is turning and the courts are not in bag for Trump always either. The Epstein files are on their way, the economy may teeter, so it would seem fortunate to me in all sorts of ways. I pray Gods will for Trump and those around him and certainly wish him no harm.

wing2000 · 2025-11-17T08:14:10-0600

“The Western Hemisphere is America’s neighborhood – and we will protect it,”

-Pete Hegseth

Uncle-Sam-Straddles-the-Americas-Cartoon_edited-1438x2048.jpg

Yarddog · 2025-11-17T08:12:57-0600

Postvieww said:
Explain how that is the case especially communism.

I'm surprised you didn't say, dictatorship. I was wrong about this one. The Constitution doesn't support an authoritarian government but Communism isn't necessarily authoritarian.

Postvieww said:
Then those who want that life style are free to move there.

And they are free to stay here and work to make it better for the people, which the Constitution supports.

Postvieww said:
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. What is currently being proposed in this country as democratic socialism or what ever variation of that is not compatible with the preamble as you claim. “the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity” is not in the future promoted by the likes of Bernie, Mamdani, Omar, Cortez and many others .

That is incorrect. What they propose is exactly what this calls for.

I don't support Democratic Socialism because what most call for is eventually achievement of economic socialism. But, Social Democracy does not.

BCP1928 · 2025-11-17T08:11:58-0600

Fervent said:
Hardly. Mostly it's revisionist history and a lack of perspective, combined with recency bias.

If that were the case, wouldn't there be more support for it amongst believers? As to recency bias, wouldn't that work in your favor? Christians haven't tended to burn and torture people for doctrinal errors in some time.

jonojim1337 · 2025-11-17T08:11:11-0600

Desk trauma said:
Well that’s clear as mud.

I think I’ve provided ample evidence that the reason you are paying taxes is because of ”muh representatives” and not to Caesar. And yet you are using Caesar’s images.

wing2000 · 2025-11-17T08:09:22-0600

Aryeh Jay said:
The United States has been involved against the armed and dangerous drug cartels for decades, fighting the war on drugs. Under the failed and possibly illegal regimes of Bill "Slick Willie" Clinton, Barry "Barack HUSSAIN Obama" Sorento, and Sleepy "Genocide" Joe Biden, the borders were unsecured and dangerous drugs and illegal immigrants flooded into the country. President Trump has stopped all the illegal activities that these former presidents chose not to.

...and President Trump will secure the great oil fields of Venezuela for the American people. Drill, baby, drill!

Apple Sky · 2025-11-17T08:06:44-0600

Phil G said:
Charles Duke has put his personal testimony for Christ on YouTube, which includes his eyewitness testimony of being on the moon and seeing the globe earth. And he has a personal ministry dedicated to bringing the Gospel to the world. He has done more for the Gospel in the public domain than either you or me.

Has he ?

Richard T · 2025-11-17T08:06:44-0600

JimR-OCDS said:
This was proven false.

MSN

Proven? Not a fact either way. Seems likely to most he took the cash, but it was not a crime. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/16/tom-homan-50k-sting-operation-00611219
But since the Trump DOJ dropped the case, we may never know, though perhaps some documents will surface later. My apologies if I suggested it was a clear cut case. We have no access to the potential evidence, and Trump seems very soft on some white collar crime. I say that based on his known and factual pardons. it is interesting to note that Homan got a advisory role in the Trump Administration, one that avoided any Senate confirmation. A more prudent administration would be more independent on internal investigations. Instead both sides are far too political. The good news is that as the GOP prosecutes the likes of Bolton, the dems will have their turn at some point to ferret out potential corruption of those in the GOP.

Fervent · 2025-11-17T08:04:12-0600

BCP1928 said:
Not "inherent" supicion. It's based on well-earned reputation.

Hardly. Mostly it's revisionist history and a lack of perspective, combined with recency bias.

BCP1928 · 2025-11-17T08:01:17-0600

Fervent said:
As long as the cage has a wheel and a water bottle, huh?

Yeah, still not seeing a reason to give blanket preference other than inherent suspicion of religion.

Not "inherent" supicion. It's based on well-earned reputation.

Aryeh Jay · 2025-11-17T07:59:49-0600

wing2000 said:
You needed an aircraft carrier battle group to "detect, monitor and disrupt illicit actons"? What a gross misuse of our military assests....

The United States has been involved against the armed and dangerous drug cartels for decades, fighting the war on drugs. Under the failed and possibly illegal regimes of Bill "Slick Willie" Clinton, Barry "Barack HUSSAIN Obama" Sorento, and Sleepy "Genocide" Joe Biden, the borders were unsecured and dangerous drugs and illegal immigrants flooded into the country. President Trump has stopped all the illegal activities that these former presidents chose not to.

BCP1928 · 2025-11-17T07:52:57-0600

RDKirk said:
Critical Theory is the removal of economics from Marxism. That's not me saying so...the creators of Critical Theory stated that up front.

Critical Theory can thus be applied to a number of other movements. But one central component of Critical Theory brought over from Marxism is the proposal of eternal class conflict between Oppressor and Oppressed, which in Critical Theory is not economic class but other classifications such as race and sex.

Thus, in Critical Race Theory, the eternal class conflict is and will _always_ be between whites and non-whites. In this eternal conflict of Critical Theory, there can never be reconciliation, treaty, or compromise between whites and non-whites.

In Radical Feminism, the eternal class conflict is between males and females with males as the oppressors, and there can never be reconciliation, treaty, or compromise between them.

The only acceptable outcome in Critical Theory is vanquishing the Oppressor.

And you claim that is the sole and entire driver of Demcratic policy. Can you give some examples? For instance how does Critical Theory form the basis of a policy in favor of universal health care?

Apple Sky · 2025-11-17T07:45:25-0600

Strong in Him said:
That means, writing clearly, paying attention to spelling and grammar. Ok spelling may not be your strong point, but most computers have spell check. If you are writing and you see a red, wiggly line under a word, it means your spelling is wrong.

I know this & sometimes I forget to check.

Strong in Him said:
As someone has said, evidence is not a YouTube video - anyone can put anything on YouTube.

Yes - Like Charles duke.

Strong in Him said:
If Flat Earth is a fact, you ought to be able to give explanations and evidence. E.g. "The earth is flat. These are the observations, studies and tests that the scientists made, and did, which caused them to arrive at that conclusion."

Yes & I will.

o_mlly · 2025-11-17T07:43:51-0600

Wow. ~150 posts ... so far.

"Much ado about nothing" may apply. But certainly, given the level of divisiveness and argumentation, "the devil is in the details" does apply.

Mark 10:18.

Tom D · 2025-11-17T07:42:42-0600

View of the Chapel of the Chateau de Versailles from the Courtyard

FAITH-IN-HIM · 2025-11-17T07:42:39-0600

rjs330 said:
Don't care what the left thinks. He said he was going to do mass deportations. That's what we voted for.

I'm not concerned with what liberals say either, but I do care about what Jesus says.

“feed the hungry, give water to thirsty, give shelter to stranger, clothed the naked, look after the sick, visit those who are in prison. (Matt 25) , take care the widow ( Acts 6), give justice to the weak and fatherless ( Psalm 82) take care immigrants ( Deut 10:19 / Psalm 146), whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’ ( Matt 25:40)

I fully support President Trump’s efforts to enhance border security. However, the situations occurring within the country, such as in cities like Chicago, Los Angeles, and now in Charlotte , are contrary to biblical teachings. Pope Leo is entirely correct in asserting that anyone who claims to be pro-life but condones inhumane treatment of others cannot truly be considered pro-life.

I'm glad the Catholic bishop spoke out against ICE actions. I'm curious how Protestant Christians will respond—will they remain silent about family separations, deporting parents while leaving children behind, or ICE agents arresting people at schools churches? American Protestantism has often aligned with the wrong side of history or remained silent. Many U.S. Protestant evangelicals were largely quiet during the civil rights, women's suffrage, and abolitionist movements. Will they remain silent today?

BCP1928 · 2025-11-17T07:40:29-0600

stevevw said:
Yes they had some sort of natural geometry.

What's the difference between natural geometry and ordinary geometry?

stevevw said:
You don't want to go down that rabbit hole as it actually throws up all sorts of theories. You o see a common geometry related to the Golden Ratio and other natural geometry.

But thats not really the point. Anyone can measure something and you don;t need a ruler. Just a piece of string. But its putting that geometry or maths into the 3D object.

Yes, how to do that is called metrology and it is clear that ancient Egyptians understood it.

stevevw said:
Yes and Chris King mentions this in the video. Iron wood could be used for bearings with whale blubber as the lubricant. I am not saying some sort of ancient lathe was made. But still we are talking about a pretty sophisticated lathe in a time where there was not even a potters wheel.

If you listen to Chris King he goes into some detail on how a primitive lathe could hjave been made. In the end it starts getting complicated when you start to figure out how the lathe could cut the inside, uniform wall thickness and certain angles that require a fixed cutting point and tremendous pressure.

Or require high speeds due to a lack of pressure or have longer cutting arms which loose stability and with speed will move or break. Its a lot more complicated.

Yes I am sure the ancients could measure. We see the precision in many things. The base of the Great Pyramid of Giza is nearly perfectly level, with a deviation of about 2.1 cm (less than 1 inch). Theres lots of stuff like this which shows pretty good maths and geometry. I think the pyramid is also aligned to true north.

But its actually putting those numbers into 3D reality. Ensuring the base is level as its being built. All the complexity in achieving this. Especially for such an ancient time. The list of works even down to individual blocks with incoporated geometry and maths is long.

But sometimes its not the measure or maths but the witness mark itself. No matter what spin you put on it you cannot unsee what looks like a router cut or an arc cut from some preset planer cut into granite.

Thats got nothing to do with the measure and everything to do with what the tool was. That its cutting blade or shape cut the arc or routing cut. Or scooped out the granite in the shape of a shovel and left scoop marks.

Thats why I think we should be looking at the whole picture and all these signatures I have linked. Like you said we may be unsure of how they made the vases. But when we begin to collect other witness marks of machining you begin to see a bigger picture of methods that could cut super stright lines, shave off layers of granite, cut arcs in granite, rout hard stone, and even soften it.

Then you begin to think they had more ability than we think in working with hard stones and some primitive though pretty sophisticated lathe begins to look inadequate. That if they had devices that could slice off thin layers of granite then they could machine vases.

fli · 2025-11-17T07:38:54-0600

Dan1988 said:
Your version of the gospel, is incoherent and unbiblical, because you're rejecting what God said and you're making Him a liar. Gods Word reveals that those who are saved, were saved by grace, you reject this and replace it with (saved by works). That's a big problem, as it robs Gd of His glory.

Here's why your "saved by works" version of the gospel is false.

Her are the works that I believe we must do to remain saved.

1 John 3:21 Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence toward God. 22 And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. 23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment. 24 Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. NKJV

As you see I am quoting the Apostle John. If I am being unbiblical, so is John.

Hebrews 12:3 For consider Him who endured such hostility from sinners against Himself, lest you become weary and discouraged in your souls. 4 You have not yet resisted to bloodshed, striving against sin. 5 And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons: "My son, do not despise the chastening of the Lord, Nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him; 6 For whom the Lord loves He chastens,
And scourges every son whom He receives." 7 If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? 8 But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons. NKJV

I am now quoting whoever wrote the epistle to the Hebrews. Pleases read verse 8. It does not say this, but illegitimate children do not have an inheritance in Heaven. Why is it that they have no inheritance? Because those who are not disciplined do so because they love the world more than they love Jesus. They do not want to give up worldly pleasures for a pass into heaven.

Colossians 1:3 We give thanks to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you, 4 since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and of your love for all the saints; 5 because of the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, of which you heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel, 6 which has come to you, as it has also in all the world, and is bringing forth fruit, NKJV

As you can read when Jesus gives us hope, He also gives us faith and love for the Saints. That is all we need to get into heaven. That is why all those scriptures say Jesus did it all.

Colossians 1:21 And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled 22 in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight — 23 if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which was preached to every creature under heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister. NKJV

It is our job to continue in the faith by not moving away from our hope in Jesus. If we lose hope in Jesus, we no longer have saving faith.

Fervent · 2025-11-17T07:36:33-0600

I don't know why any Christian would take Bart Ehrman's word for anything. His methodology is grotesquely flawed and most of what he claims involves coming to the texts with preconceived notions about what is and isn't historical and then throwing out the material that disagrees with whatever he wants to claim.

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