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SLOTKIN STUMPED! Senator Admits She's 'Not Aware' of Any 'Illegal' Orders From Trump to Military [WATCH]

Morally concerned? Please explain what only means that.
Charitably speaking, a military lawyer's job is to explain to the commander how the commander can get his mission done legally. The lawyer doesn't say, "You can't do it," the lawyer says, "This is how to do it legally."

Without speaking charitably, that job does not necessarily involve invoking any kind of personal moral views. The morality of the matter is encoded within the applicable laws.

For instance, the Law of Armed Conflict (which includes applicable portions of the Geneva Conventions) states that US forces are prohibited from attacking a school or hospital--unless enemy forces are already using that school or hospital as an operational location. In that case, US forces may attack that school or hospital. The Law of Armed Conflict (in concert with the Geneva Conventions) places the moral fault on the forces that first began using those buildings for miltary purposes.

That particular lawyer may personally feel different. He may feel that the US should not under any circumstances attack a school or hospital. But it's not his job to transmit his own personal morality, but the morality encapsulated in the LOAC.

Using a "War on Terror" to invoke the Alien Enemies Act seems specious at best being as "Terror" is not an entity and it has no citizens, soldiers, etc. It is in the same category as the "War on Cancer" or the "War on Poverty".

Are the current White House lawyers well versed on military and international law? It seems counter-intuitive that striking a boat in international waters and killing all aboard instead of indicting them would be legal.

Depends on how they interpret the current Congressional resolutions. The president has presented his interpretation...it's up to Congress to dispute it.

Which Congress hasn't done yet.

What we think about in the peanut gallery is for us to make clear on election day.
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God gave me a brain, such as it is, but I have no idea why I should believe somebody I’ve never met with no proof of their reliability. I don’t have faith in you. I have faith in God and the truth of His Word. No prophet in the Bible lacked some foundation for their authority in transmitting the will of God. False prophets are everywhere. Every prophesy must be tested.
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By her own admission, she is addicted to conspiracy theories.
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The common thread in Trump's defenders


A conservative federal appeals court unanimously upheld nearly $1 million in sanctions against President Trump and his former attorney Alina Habba for filing what it called a "frivolous" lawsuit against Hillary Clinton and other political enemies.​
The big picture: Wednesday's ruling is the latest roadblock in Trump's long-running effort to punish his foes. It's also the president's second loss with the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in recent days, after it refused to revive his defamation lawsuit against CNN.​
  • A district court judge tossed and eviscerated the case Trump brought against Hillary Clinton and others, writing in 2023 that it "should never have been filed" and was "in bad faith."

Another loss for the geezer and ill-appointed his lawyer.
But how can this be? Trump does not use "lawfare"...
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National Parks to raise fees by $100 for international tourists to popular U.S. parks

The US NP's charge by the vehicle, not the person. If $35 per vehicle isn't enough to meet their needs, then raise the entrance fees for everyone. Assessing excessive fees on visitors (who have no influence) is an underhanded way to raise money IMO. It's similar to cities which slap high hotel room and car rental taxes on visitors.
Well, given the precipitous drop in international tourists from the US, perhaps it'll be even more complicated and expensive.....
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Judge dismisses James Comey and Letitia James cases, finding prosecutor's appointment invalid

Maybe you can help the prosecution find the lie, because they seem to be struggling on that point:

Here the specific text of the question Comey answered in his testimony matters a lot—for a number of reasons. Grassley asked Comey: “have you ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation” (emphasis added).

It is thus not adequate for proof that Comey made a false statement for the government to show that Richman interfaced with reporters on Comey’s behalf. That fact has never been a secret (Richman did much of this work in the open and on a named basis), and Comey has never denied it. In fact, it was Comey who dramatically announced Richman’s role in Senate testimony that the brief later quotes (see pages 10-11).

Rather, to prove that Comey lied, the government has to show (a) that Richman was “at the FBI” at the time; (b) that Comey “authorized” the press contact; (c) that he authorized Richman to do the contact anonymously; and (d) that the contact concerned the Trump or Clinton investigation.


The article then goes on to do what seems to me to be a very good job explaining how none of the things the prosecution tries to point to in their filing as evidence actually show the aforementioned things required to make Comey's statement false. So, where's the lie?

That said, once again, even if the government had the strongest evidence possible that Comey lied, that wouldn't have any effect on the question of whether Halligan's appointment was lawful.
I see Comey’s lie right there in that article and I heard his lie while testifying to the Senate.
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The Mamdani Model: More Socialist Mayors to ComeBeware! The DSA will attempt to repeat Mamdani’s success in other Democrat strongholds.

Also you math isn't mathing very well.

A "23% increase of converts to Islam (20,000 Americans annually)" sure reads as if the raw number of convert rose from about 16000/year to 20000/year in some unspecified time frame.
My mistake. Fresher data shows around 30,000 Americans convert to Islam annually, a number that has shown an increase, particularly in recent years.
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Judge dismisses James Comey and Letitia James cases, finding prosecutor's appointment invalid

28 U.S.C. § 546
The constitutional framework governing such appointments is rooted in the Appointments Clause, which no less a conservative judicial icon than the late Justice Antonin Scalia called "among the most significant structural safeguards of the constitutional scheme." Congress has long limited the attorney general's authority to make interim appointments. Under 28 U.S.C. § 546, the attorney general "may appoint" an interim U.S. attorney to serve for 120 days.
Once that period expires, the authority to fill the vacancy shifts to the district court, which may appoint a U.S. attorney "to serve until the vacancy is filled." This design ensures that the executive branch cannot bypass the Senate indefinitely by stacking one temporary appointment atop another.The text and logic of § 546 make the limit clear. The statute's 120-day clock begins with the attorney general's initial appointment.
To allow back-to-back interim appointments would effectively erase the limit, enabling perpetual evasion of the confirmation process that Congress required. The 120-day cap thus marks a deliberate boundary -- one that Congress intended to preserve Senate oversight and the judiciary's backstop role.
If judges are allowed to pick and choose federal DA's, then judges are overstepping their roles as judges. The DA must be selected by the Presidents and then approved by the Senate.
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National Parks to raise fees by $100 for international tourists to popular U.S. parks

1) I 100% understand that. Besides the gutting of NPS budget, gotta make money somehow. Besides the people who travel to the US to visit one of those parks LIKELY will have the cash to splash. So long as it isn't PER PERSON (that's nuts).

The US NP's charge by the vehicle, not the person. If $35 per vehicle isn't enough to meet their needs, then raise the entrance fees for everyone. Assessing excessive fees on visitors (who have no influence) is an underhanded way to raise money IMO. It's similar to cities which slap high hotel room and car rental taxes on visitors.
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Texas A&M fires lecturer, administrators over classroom gender discussion caught on video

The only thing they should be teaching in college (or any educational class from K thru 12) about gender identity is that males are males and females are females and if you think otherwise, you have a mental disability.
LOL!
What pathetic argument.


I guess I have a mental disability. Which is weird! I'm fairly familiar with the DSM and I've been involved in mental health for quite a while now.

I've never known my imposter syndrome means that I have mental disability. I'd guess 80-90% of doctors are also cookoo.


Said that, for YOUR world to be comfortable, people who you disagree with have to be burdenned with a "mental disability".
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Free Energy & Tartaria

Tesla’s long-held dream was to create a source of inexhaustible, clean energy that was free for everyone. He strongly opposed centralised coal-fired power stations that spewed carbon dioxide into the air that humans breathed.

He believed that the Earth had “fluid electrical charges” running beneath its surface, that when interrupted by a series of electrical discharges at repeated set intervals, would generate a limitless power supply by generating immense low-frequency electrical waves.

One of Tesla’s most extraordinary experiments was to transmit electrical power over long distances without wires or cables — a feat that has baffled scientists ever since.

His grand vision was to free humankind from the burdens of extracting, pumping, transporting, and burning fossil fuels — which he viewed as “sinful waste”.

The article you quoted has no factual substance. Surely you must be able to find an article that details "Tesla's extraordinary experiment to transmit electrical power over long distances without wires or cables — a feat that has baffled scientists ever since". Somebody wrote it in an article on the Internet, so it must be true, right?
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Texas A&M fires lecturer, administrators over classroom gender discussion caught on video

For decades, gay children have been FORCED to read books about heterosexuals without major fight.

Now we have full grown adults unable to read a book....a fictional book...a made up story because they can't handle the topic?

I'm sorry but I'm not convinced you a fit to be a teacher if that's the case. You don't have to LOVE a topic but you should be able to exist and not run in fear over it.
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Lesser-known Treasures from the Divine Services and Liturgy of the Orthodox Church

Today is the feast of St. John Chrysostom, who like the other members of the Three Holy Hierarchs, has his own feast in addition to the combined feast in January (by the way, i have often wondered why we do not group St. Athanasius with the Three Holy Hierarchs given his extreme importance; it is because of the three Holy Hierarchs, two of them were alive during the Second Ecumenical Synod and the end of Arian persecution of Christians, and St. Basil despite reposing several years before his best friend St. Gregory the Theologian, was a contemporary of St. Gregory)? Perhaps because they picked up the torch of St. Athanasius after his repose and ensured that Arianism would not prevail?

That question aside, this is a feast with lovely hymns worthy of St. John the Golden-mouthed. Vespers begins with a bang:

In abstinence thou didst emulate well * thy namesake the Baptist, O father, * and didst imitate the great Elijah in purity and fasting. * Wounded by the zeal of both, O Chrysostom, * as a pastor of the Church of Christ ** thou didst speak boldly even against the imperial majesty. (Twice)
The sound of thy dogmas, * passing throughout all the world, as it is written, * hath illumined the world with the divine inspiration of the Word; * and thou hast thrown open to us the door of repentance, * embodying the Gospel of Christ ** in thy care for the poor.
The pure and undefiled light of thy soul * shineth upon the world * with sun-like beams of the dogmas of piety, * O wise father John Chrysostom, * dispelling the darkness ** and illumining the universe with piety.


Like with all hierarchs, we have quotes from the Wisdom of Solomon, the most frequently quoted book among those the Catholics call “deuterocanon”, at Vespers, but we also have a proper Matins Gospel instead of the cycle of 11 Resurrection Gospels read on Sundays. The Matins Gospel and Gospels during the liturgy are part of the common service for Holy Hierarchs from the General Menaion, however, the Old Testament prophecies differ slightly, with two quotes from the Wisdom of Solomon rather than one. Those interested might enjoy the text here: https://st-sergius.org/services/Emenaion/11-13.pdf


From the Canon at Matins, Ode IV is my favorite:

Irmos: Thou, O Lord, art my strength and Thou art my power, * Thou art my God and Thou art my joy, * Thou Who, while never leaving the bosom of Thy Father, * hast visited our poverty. * Therefore with the Prophet Habbakuk I
cry unto Thee, * ‘Glory to Thy power, O Lover of mankind!’
Christ Who, in that He is good, exerciseth forethought for all in His providence, hath given thee to us, O all-blessed John Chrysostom, as another peer of the apostles, a proclaimer of the heavenly liturgy, and a divine expounder of celestial mysteries.

Let us honor the golden John Chrysostom of golden eloquence, who hath rendered all things golden through the golden luster of his teachings, and hath illumined the world with his tongue, which shineth brighter than gold, is full of light and poureth forth divine grace.
Thou wast wholly the habitation of God; thou wast shown to be wholly the instrument of the Spirit, sounding forth a divinely inspired hymn of every virtue and the cause of salvation, and revealing the beauty of the kingdom of heaven, O all- blessed John Chrysostom.
Thou didst proclaim the compassion of God, setting forth examples of repentance, and most excellently instructing us how to avoid evils, O most blessed, most perfect and most honored father Chrysostom, pouring forth excellent teachings on good works.
Theotokion: After God, we have acquired thee as our intercessor; for thou wast the Mother of God, the Creator and Fashioner, Who took upon Himself our guise, saving it from corruption and death, and glorifying it with divine glory, O all- immaculate one.


But Vespers really shines for this feast, for in addition to the stichera I quoted earlier, after the Litya we are treated to these exquisite hymns; this is in contrast to many Orthodox feasts where much of the exciting material is in Matins.

The composition of Anatolius, in Tone I:
O luminary John, mouth of golden luster, ornament of divinely wrought virtues, receptacle of mystic writings: thou wast the most pure and incorrupt treasury of the all-holy Spirit, from whence thou hast brought gladness to the whole Church by thy salvific discourse; wherefore, having found boldness before God, amid the enjoyment of heavenly delight, pray thou for us, O most holy father.

Grace was poured forth through thy lips, O venerable father John Chrysostom, for
which cause God anointed thee a high priest for His people, to shepherd His flock in holiness and righteousness. Wherefore, girded about with the armor of the Mighty One, thou didst cut down the blasphemies of heresy. And now, cease thou never to pray, that peace be granted to the world, and that our souls be saved.

The composition of the Studite, in Tone II:
Praising thee with love, the great high priest and pastor, innocent and venerable, the preacher of repentance, the golden mouth of grace, we pray: grant us thy supplications, O father, unto the salvation of our souls.
The composition of George of Nicomedia, in Tone II: Having been adorned with thy golden words as with golden ornaments, O John Chrysostom, the Church crieth out to thee: “I have drunk my fill of thy flowing golden waters, adorned with thy drink of golden honey mingled with gold; for I am brought from works to vision because of thy teachings, and am united to Christ, the noetic Bridegroom, reigning with Him.” Wherefore, assembling to honor thy memory, we also cry aloud: Cease thou never to pray to the Lord for us, that our souls be saved.

Thou didst receive the most elevated philosophy, O hierarch, and didst transcend the world, living above visible things; and in godly manner didst show thyself to be an undefiled reflection of God. And ever united with the Light, thou didst receive the Light and a most clearly blessed end. Pray thou, O Chrysostom, on behalf of our souls.

In Tone IV: Thou didst manifestly water the earth with words of golden luster, possessed of a body and soul flowing with gold, O all-blessed one; and having by thy discourses on thy dogmas rendered all things golden, O maker of gold, and written books of golden letters, thou didst fly up to the heavens. Wherefore, we cry out to thee: O river and mouth of gold, entreat Christ God, that He save our souls.

Glory ..., the composition of Germanus, in Tone II:
It was fitting for the queen of cities to have John as its hierarch, as a certain royal adornment and a golden trumpet instructing all the ends of the earth with the dogmas of salvation, and moving all to zeal in chanting divinely splendid hymns. To him do we now cry aloud: O thou of golden discourse and golden mouth, entreat Christ God, that He save our souls.

Both now ..., Theotokion, in Tone II:
Thee have we obtained as a rampart, * O most pure Theotokos, * a favorably calm harbor and confirmation. * Wherefore, we who are tempest-tossed in this life beseech thee: ** do thou guide us and save us!

On the Aposticha, these Stichera, in Tone V: Spec. Mel.: “Rejoice ...”:
Rejoice, divinely inspired instrument of the Church, beauteous and of golden luster, O tongue which lovingly describes to us images of repentance; mind of golden sheen, golden-mouthed swallow, dove who with golden wings shineth like gold, chanting hymns amid the verdure of the virtues, golden stream pouring forth waters and serving as the surety of God's love for mankind! Entreat Christ God, that He send down upon our souls great mercy.
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You're wrong.

You once believed Charles Dukes' testimony - "hand on heart. You now say he is a liar; not mistaken, forgetful or deluded; a liar.
That means that you believe he knows full well that he did not go to, or walk on, the moon but that he is deliberately saying that he did.
Apart from the fact that he has no reason to lie and there are people who could correct him and tell the truth - if you say he is lying about that, then he is also lying in what he says about Jesus.

God doesn't want us to believe that a man who talks about his Son, is a liar. It was God who converted Charles, gave him that great testimony and the ability to tell others about him.
I know and it's been hard.
What's been hard?
Calling Christians, liars? Telling God you are sorry that you asked him for help but that you don't need it after all? Sticking to your beliefs even though you have a lot of Christians telling you you are wrong?

If it's mocking/insulting other Christians that has been hard - don't do it.
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Trump praises NYC Mayor-elect Mamdani after White House meeting

I'm not referring to Trump as I already mentioned. I'm referring to Mamdani.
Please ask who a person is referring to next time instead of assuming it's Trump.
From the description I thought you were clearly describing Mt Trump who fits the description very well.
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National Parks to raise fees by $100 for international tourists to popular U.S. parks

As an internation traveler to the states:
1) I 100% understand that. Besides the gutting of NPS budget, gotta make money somehow. Besides the people who travel to the US to visit one of those parks LIKELY will have the cash to splash. So long as it isn't PER PERSON (that's nuts).

2) A lot of "tourist attractions" do similar things (Science museums offering "Year Passes" that are only modestly more expensive than single visit passes). I completely understand.

I wish all Americans valued their National Parks Services as much as the travellers dropping 1000s to come and visit them.
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Imitatio Christi - is the following Biblical?

According to the Church Fathers, this passage refers to the need for Christian clergy, including monastics, to be sustained. Specifically, quoting the Orthodox Study Bible, “Clergy must be given material support to be free to sow spiritual things. God saw to this under the Old Covenant (vv. 8, 9), and Paul implies that most Christian pastors are similarly supported (vv. 5, 6).”
Ah, we have an answer - Paul is talking about receiving material support - money -

That lines up perfectly with having experienced abundance and being in a place of need - but content in either situation.

Finally! Thank you.

What we are seeing here is the difference between solely Biblical Exegesis and Exegesis through tradition.

It also explains why it takes 200 words to answer even the most basic of questions, and why so much extemporaneous information is included in every post. It make people have to dig for an answer I'd rather hear what you personally believe other than repetition from your school books.
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The common thread in Trump's defenders

Trump and his pretty not-so-smart lawyer, Alina Habba, were sanctioned a million dollars for suing Clinton and others over all that.

A conservative federal appeals court unanimously upheld nearly $1 million in sanctions against President Trump and his former attorney Alina Habba for filing what it called a "frivolous" lawsuit against Hillary Clinton and other political enemies.
The big picture: Wednesday's ruling is the latest roadblock in Trump's long-running effort to punish his foes. It's also the president's second loss with the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in recent days, after it refused to revive his defamation lawsuit against CNN.
  • A district court judge tossed and eviscerated the case Trump brought against Hillary Clinton and others, writing in 2023 that it "should never have been filed" and was "in bad faith."

Another loss for the geezer and ill-appointed his lawyer.
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Yes.



I know and it's been hard.
God gave me a brain, such as it is, but I have no idea why I should believe somebody I’ve never met with no proof of their reliability. I don’t have faith in you. I have faith in God and the truth of His Word. No prophet in the Bible lacked some foundation for their authority in transmitting the will of God. False prophets are everywhere. Every prophesy must be tested.
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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

I think it's a time of ruling and teaching without any interference from Satan, etc.
Do you believe the general resurrection takes place at the beginning or at the end of the Millennium? The common / dispensational view is that it occurs at the end of the Millennium. But doesn't this make the Millennium pointless?
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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

These are just following up with the 1st Peter 3 verses-

I Peter 4:5 "Who shall give account to Him That is ready to judge the quick and the dead." -The living and the dead

I Peter 4:6 "For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit."
Thanks. In verse 6 who do you think the dead are?
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