Self-interest shall be many's only reward.

Valletta said:

Mary makes requests of Our Lord, as did the other queen mothers in the Davidic kingdom starting with Solomon.

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Yup. Jesus is the fulfillment of the Davidic Kingdom, therefore Mary is Queen.

Denmark

Clare73 said:

That is precisely what Ro 5:17 states, ". . .by the trespass of one man, death reigned through that one man,"

Are you serious?. . .Based on what. . .your erroneous theology?

Q.E.D.

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Your erroneous hermeneutic speaks volumes. I'm done here.
You're now on ignore.

Hentenza said:

They are planets. We have already sent probes to the planets in our solar system so we have data and pictures of them.

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This is not what the Bible says. The 7 stars are wandering & are the fallen angels who did not keep their first estate.

King James Bible
Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

King James Bible
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Hentenza said:

I do say so.

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So Saturn is 800 million miles away, how to you get to this figure ?

essentialsaltes said:

Jobs numbers aren't critical data, so the shutdown has prevented their release.

But the DOW is currently above 47,000.

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And now back below 46,000.

CBO: US Annual Budget Deficit Steady at $1.8 Trillion, Despite Surge in Tariff Revenue​

The federal government logged a $1.8 trillion budget deficit for the 2025 fiscal year, little changed from 2024 despite a surge in tariffrevenues, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

While the Treasury Department issues the official tally for monthly and annual budget figures, plans for publishing the September monthly and 2025 fiscal-year data may be affected by the current federal government shutdown. A spokesperson for the Treasury didn’t respond to a request for comment on the timing of the report.

The agency said that while revenues climbed by $308 billion, or 6%, spending advanced by an estimated $301 billion, or 4% — propelled by categories including interest on the public debt, which surpassed $1 trillion for the first time.

Receipts from corporate income taxes decreased 15% compared to 2024, in part due to Trump’s signature tax and spending plan passed by Congress this summer.

Tax and spend is right.

Apple Sky said:

This is not my opinion it is a fact & no they have not.

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It is your opinion. I know that for a fact and can prove it and have proved it. We should talk about telemetry next. You’ll love that one.

rocknanchor said:

It is unfortunate to have to travel (maybe you do) to get to meetings of Holy Spirit repute. Reportedly, both east, west and south of you are:

Choctaw Assembly of God, (Choctaw, OK) Engages in regular prayer meetings that emphasize prophetic prayer and healing services.

First Assembly of God, (North Little Rock, Arkansas) Hosts regular Sunday services with intentional space for spiritual gifts, including testimonies of healing.

Gateway Church, (Southlake, Texas) Focuses on Biblical teaching with an emphasis on the use of spiritual gifts in various ministries.''

As far as being a legitimate Pentecostal Church, that AOG district oversight hopefully still maintains that qualification.

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good to know that some have remained true

My view of the rapture is that there is a pre-trib, mid-trib or post-trib rapture. But I do believe that we are snatched up on the last day. So, a sort of rapture, just not an early one that everyone else seems to think.
People who believe in an early rapture, that is, the snatching up of believers either before, during or straight after the Tribulation, often point to 1 Thessalonians 4:15–18. They read it as teaching that the dead in Christ rise first to meet with Christ, and then immediately afterwards, those who are alive are caught up to meet the Lord in the air. So, a rapture for all believers who are both dead and alive, and they meet with the Lord in the air.

But Jesus Himself taught something different. Several times, He said believers are raised on the last day. This is the end of earthly time, when He judges the world at the Great White Throne judgment.
John 6:39 – And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that of everything that He has given Me I will lose nothing, but will raise it up on the last day.
John 6:40 – For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.
John 6:44 – No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.
John 6:54 – The one who eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.
John 11:24 – Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.”

So, when does anyone rise before the last day? Only in the case of the martyrs. Revelation 20:4-6 speaks of an early resurrection for those who are killed for their faith. They are raised and reign with Christ for 1,000 years, but the rest of the dead (Believers and non-believer) are not raised until the last day of time.
With this in mind, 1 Thessalonians 4:15–18 makes sense: “the dead in Christ” are raised first (the martyrs), and then at the last day of time, those who are alive are caught up to meet the Lord in the clouds and all go to judgment at the GWT judgement.

It is clear, then, that all believers are raised on the last day, while only martyrs are raised early.
On the last day, the dead, both believers and unbelievers alike, are raised and judged.
Acts 24:15 confirms this when it says "a" resurrection: “I have hope in God, which they themselves also accept, that there will be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and the unjust.” This points to a single resurrection of all the dead, not two separate ones.

And Jesus also said that there will be a time when all believers and non-believers are raised and judged. In John 5:28–29 He says: “Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth, those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.”

• any time before the Antichrist commits the ToD act......@Douggg's view
• no rapture.....@Gregory Thompson's view
• before the 7 year tribulation starts, His Church to stay in the clouds for the 7 years......@ d taylor's view
• no rapture to heaven, instead an earthly transportation to meet/be with Jesus at His return.....@ keras's view
• rapture late January 2026/7...........@Marilyn C's view
• Post-trib rapture ("after the tribulation of those days" - Matthew 24:29-31, Mark 13:24-27)....@Spiritual Jew's view
• no rapture..... @ViaCrucis's view
• a rapture, but not to heaven, instead to a place on the present earth that God will designate as New Jerusalem....@Indentured Servant's view
• Rapture/snatching away at the end of time (the very last day) to the GWT Judgement for all believers and non-believers. Only the martyrs are raised early and reign with Christ for 1000 years.....@1Tonne's view

Always in His Presence said:

Please indulge me -

Doesn't theolougoumemnon mean something that cannot be supported by Holy Scripture?

As for Tongues - can you offer a real world example perhaps - who are you communicating with?

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talking to God

bèlla said:

I know what you’re referring to.

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Then why did you mention pawn shops?

bèlla said:

I make purchases through reputable sources who can shoulder a lawsuit. I don’t buy things from strangers.

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I look for bargains. I;m a wise purchaser; and it has worked out well for me. I bought my tractor from a Craigslist ad, as is - where is, for $5K. You can't sue and win in such an agreement.

I put a few hundred dollars into it; and I could easily turn it around and make 5-10K in profit.

bèlla said:

This is your prep and that’s fine. But it isn’t a financial strategy the majority should follow.

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If the majority followed the strategy of the reserve bankers; there wouldn't be such a growing wealth disparity.

Hentenza said:

Your opinions are not facts. Astronauts have gone way beyond low earth orbit.

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This is not my opinion it is a fact & no they have not.

Looks like they got the wrong woman.

A cover sheet accompanying the five-page indictment, filed on October 9 in the Eastern District of Virginia, lists James’s address as “Brooklyn, New Jersey,” despite her well-known residence in Brooklyn, New York.

see also:

Problems identified in Halligan’s initial filings [on Comey], including duplicate case numbers and clerical errors such as misspellings in official documents that have been flagged on social media.

A widely shared post on X said she “doesn’t know the difference between a bedrock principle and a bedrock ‘principal’.”


Hey, I get it. it's just a few little errors in some paperwork, let's not make a federal case out of it!

DaisyDay said:

This is similar to EO on flag burning. Certain people are really out to silence the opposition. Scary times.

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Who is he opposing with that comment?

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Tennessee man arrested after posting meme in Facebook group for Charlie Kirk vigil

Members of the Perry County community reportedly believed he was making threats against local schools

www.the-independent.com

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A Tennessee man was arrested on Monday for making “threats of mass violence” after posting a meme in a Facebook group where people were organizing a vigil for Charlie Kirk.​

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Larry Bushart Jr., 61, a former police officer, posted a meme of President Donald Trump in the Perry County community group page as members of the page were organizing a vigil to honor Kirk.​

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“‘We have to get over it.’ – Donald Trump, on the Perry High School mass shooting one day after,” the text on the meme read.​

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However, members of the group interpreted Bushart’s post as a threat against their local high school, which is also called Perry County High School.​

“Investigators believe Bushart was fully aware of the fear his post would cause and intentionally sought to create hysteria within the community,” Perry County Sheriff Nick Weems told The Tennessean.​

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As a result, Bushart was arrested early Monday morning and charged with making threats of mass violence on school property and activities.​

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This is similar to EO on flag burning. Certain people are really out to silence the opposition. Scary times.

Mercy Shown said:

Romans 3:20 declares, “For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.” Some interpreters have argued that Paul is speaking of two distinct laws: the ceremonial law, which could not justify, and the moral law, which continues to bind believers. This reading, however, is a later development in Christian history rather than Paul’s own intent.​

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While I agree that Romans 3:20 refers to two different categories of law, it is incorrect that those categories are the moral, civil, and ceremonial law. The people who speak about those categories of law commonly assume that the people that they are speaking to have in mind the same set of laws, but that is unsafe to make that assumption because if all of them were to make lists of which laws they think best fit into those categories, then they would end up with a wide variety of lists. Moreover, none of those people should interpret the Bible with the assumption that its authors had in mind a lists of laws that they just created, especially when there is no way to even establish that they ever used that categories.

Existence of the category of moral law would mean that we can be acting morally while disobeying the laws that aren't in that category, however, there are no examples in the Bible where disobedient to any of God's laws is stated as being moral and there is no justification for thinking that it can ever be moral to disobey God. Morality is in regard to what we ought to do and we ought to embody God's likeness through being a doer of His character traits, so all of God's laws are inherently moral laws. Legislators give laws in accordance with their understanding of what ought to be done, so to claim that some of God's laws are not moral laws is to claim that God made a moral error about what ought to be done when He gave those laws and is therefore to claim to have greater moral knowledge than God. Such as person is disagreeing with God about what is right and wrong and is taking the position that they should lean on their own understanding of right and wrong by doing only what is right in their own eyes rather than trust in God with all of their heart to correctly divide between right and wrong through His law and to make our way straight (Proverbs 3:1-7).

Mercy Shown said:

In the early church, figures like Irenaeus, Origen, Chrysostom, and Augustine typically read Paul’s reference to “the law” (nomos) as the Mosaic law in its entirety. They emphasized that the law reveals sin but does not bring righteousness, and they did not suggest that Paul was distinguishing between two different laws.

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Character traits are not earned as the result of our works but rather they are embodied through our works, so the Law of Moses was never given as a way to earn our righteousness even through perfect obedience, but rather it was given as instructions for how to embody God's righteousness. The one and only way to attain a character trait is through faith apart from works, but what it means to have a character trait is to be a doer of works that embody that trait. For example, the only way for someone to become courageous is through faith apart from being required to have first done enough courageous works in order to earn it as the result, but it would be contradictory for someone to become courageous apart from becoming a doer of courageous works.

This is why Paul said in Romans 3:28-31 that the faith by which we are declared righteous apart from works does not abolish our need to be a doer of righteous works in obedience to the Law of Moses, but rather our faith upholds it. Everyone who has faith will be declared righteous and everyone who has faith is a doer of the Law of Moses, which is how Paul can deny in Romans 4:1-5 that we can earn our righteousness as the result of our works while also affirming in Romans 2:13 that only the doers of the Law of Moses will be declared righteous.

In Romans 3:27, Paul contrasted a law of works with a law of faith, in Galatians 3:10-12, he contrasted the Book of the Law with "works of the law", and in Romans 3:31 and Galatians 3:10-12, he said that our faith upholds the Law of Moses in contrast with saying that "works of the law" are not of faith, so that phrase does not refer to the Law of Moses. Rather, Paul used that phrase to refer to the position that Gentiles are required to become circumcised (convert to being Jews) in order to become saved, which was never the reason for why God commanded circumcision. In Psalms 119:29-30, he wanted to put false ways far from him, for God to be gracious to him teaching him to obey the Law of Moses, and he chose the way of faith by setting it before him, so this has always been the one and only way of salvation by grace through faith, not earned as the result of circumcision.

Apple Sky said:

And like I said, astronauts can only fly in low earth orbit.

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Your opinions are not facts. Astronauts have gone way beyond low earth orbit.

Apple Sky said:

They are not planets they are wandering stars.

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lol no . They are planets. We have already sent probes to the planets in our solar system so we have data and pictures of them.

Apple Sky said:

If you say so

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I do say so.

keras said:

Where is Timothy now? If he did actually become immortal then, why did he remain on earth as Pauls helper?
All of your "proofs', can be seen for what they are; the Promise of becoming immortal at the final Judgment.

Our lives are; to God, all about testing and the choices we make.
He has set up our world in a very clever way, so we all can choose our path in life. Basically; those who decide to ignore the plain facts of Creation and live the hedonistic lifestyle, will be discarded at the final Judgment, but those who do acknowledge God, keep His Commandments and believe in Jesus, will be given Eternal life at the GWT Judgment, Revelation 20:11-15, Revelation 21:1-7

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#1 Where is. there . a verse where anyone can choose there path in life. ??

# 2 And what Commanments are we to KEEP. ?

# 3. And where is a verse where SINNERS are saved at the GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGNMENTS. ??

dan p

bèlla said:

I think you’re referring to pawn shops and they’re notoriously slanted in the shop’s favor.

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No I'm not. I'm talking about those who will buy or sell at spot, plus or minus the premium. I'm not talking about diamond encrusted jewelry. I'm talking about spot metal value.

Again, I'm talking about storing wealth, that you exchanged for your time, which is your life.

If you trade your life for devaluing fiat currency; and use that as a means to store that wealth; your life will be stolen from you.

If you bought a simple silver chain a few years ago; you paid for the metal, and the labor of forming that metal into a chain. Most of the cost was in the metal. Since that time, the value of that metal has tripled fro $16. oz. to $50/oz., when measured in fiat currency. If you sell it to a refinery for scrap; he will give you a few dollars under spot for it. He needs to stay in business.

If the demand is high for silver; he will sometimes pay over spot, and resell it at even a higher premium.

If his offer is ridiculous; find another broker.

bèlla said:

You’re meeting a stranger from the internet to barter with gold and silver? Good luck with that.

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How is that different than making a trade with a stranger for cash?

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I don’t believe I’m reading this.

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How is that?

Identifying the Tribes of Israel:
It is God’s plan that the House of Judah, that is: the Jewish people, remain as an identifiable people group to fulfil the tasks assigned to them. In these present days, one task has been to replant and rebuild the Land.
But the 10 Northern tribes, that is, the House of Israel, have been lost to history.

Deuteronomy 32:26 says - I will cause the memory of them to cease among men.
However, the Bible does give us some clues as to who and where they might be today.

1. Who has received the blessings promised?
2. Where will they eventually come from to return to the Land
3. THE BLESSINGS -
   • To Abraham: Father of many nations, exceedingly fruitful,
   • To Isaac: numberless descendants, Land given to them.
   • To Jacob: The richness of the earth. Peoples will serve you. Curses on those who curse you, blessing on those who bless you.
   • To the 12 sons of Jacob (Israel): See in Genesis 49 and Deuteronomy 33:1-29

1 Chronicles 5:1-2; states that the Birthright Blessing is given to Joseph.
In Genesis 48 Jacob blesses Joseph’s sons, Ephraim and Manasseh. Both were to become great nations.
Deuteronomy 33:17 The 10,000s of Ephraim and the 1000s of Manasseh will push against the nations, even to the ends of the earth.

Only the British Commonwealth and the United States of America fulfil these prophecies. The other 8 tribes seem to be identified with the European Union nations.
Ref: The Tribes, Yair Davidy.

RETURN AND REJOINING IN THE LAND
There are over forty prophecies telling us of the House of Israel’s return to the Promised Land in the last days, so where they will migrate from gives the clues as to where they are now.

Jeremiah 31:8-10 See, I bring them from a Northern land ... gathered from the far ends of the earth.....a vast company...I am a Father to Israel and Ephraim is My eldest son.
Isaiah 49:12 They are coming, some from far away, some from the North and West and others from the land of Sinim. (Sinim - Hebrew: Southern land, Latin: Australi)
Hosea 11: They will follow the Lord and when He roars His sons will speed out of the West.

So, the main location of the lost ten tribes is in the Northwest and from there, spread around the world.
Ref: logostelos.info

Aldebaran said:

Wasn't it Latitia James who went after Trump for what she called a financial fraud which turned out to be more of a paperwork error?

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No, it wasn't a paperwork error. It was a deliberate overestimation of the value of properties when applying for loans with a deliberate underestimation of the very same properties for tax write-offs.

Aldebaran said:

Maybe she'll end up having to pay out the $100,000,000 she tried to get from him. That would be a fitting end to a woman who made it her campaign theme to go after Trump.

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She promised to go after criminals such as DJT and fulfilled that promise. Trump's DOJ is retaliating on his behalf which is not something any government should do. This is vengeance and persecution from the highest office in our government. It is not only unlawful but and absolute disgrace to our country.