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Oompa Loompa · 2025-12-11T08:40:49-0600

Yarddog said:
Venezuela isn't at war with the US.

The US isn't at war with Venezuela either. They are at war with the drug cartels who have been attacking and killing US civilians for decades.

A2SG · 2025-12-11T08:39:38-0600

Aryeh Jay said:
He should have just stayed in the band.

You know, some people call him the space cowboy, yeah...Some call him the gangster of love.

-- A2SG, hey, some people call him Maurice, cause he speaks of the pompitous of love.....

essentialsaltes · 2025-12-11T08:35:40-0600

Trump launches $1m ‘gold card’ [and $5m platinum coming soon!] visa scheme amid immigration crackdown

An official government webpage promises US residency “in record time” with the new “Trump Gold Card” – once applicants have paid a $15,000 processing fee to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), passed a background check and paid up $1m.

The gold card program has already faced heavy criticism by seemingly contradicting the US’s traditional reputation as a refuge for the hardworking poor.

A “Trump Platinum Card” is also “coming soon”, according to the official website. This card will allow holders to spend up to 270 days in the US without being subject to US taxes on non-US income. It will cost $5m.

When the program was first reported in February, the price for a visa was $5m. The discounted price tag may give the card a competitive edge compared with similar “pay to jump the line” programs in other countries. For example, New Zealand’s new golden visa program costs nearly $3m (US dollars), but managed to attract strong interest from wealthy Americans following Trump’s re-election.

[The marble webpage background is a nice touch. This is deeee-luxe.]

Hentenza · 2025-12-11T08:32:28-0600

Studyman said:
And in your copy and paste AI generated post, there is nothing written therein that supports your accusation that they do.

First you accuse me of using AI.

Hentenza said:
I’m going to cut your post off because it is disingenuous. No AI was used. Go back to my OP and open the link that I supplied which will bring you to Ellen White’s actual writings. Maybe reading posts more carefully will help you avoid embarrassing errors like this.

I directed you to the link that I posted. This is my first time telling you that I did not use AI.

Studyman said:
Go back and read your own words, and you should be embarrassed for being so dishonest in in them. " the Seventh Day Adventist church, teach that those who worship on Sunday will receive the mark of the beast and will reject the seal of God". You should be embarrassed, and amend your error.

In this quote you maliciously truncated my opening post to make it say something that I did not say.

Hentenza said:
No. Why did you cut off the first part of my post? Here it is again.

“The writings of Ellen White, a prophet of the Seventh Day Adventist church, teach that those who worship on Sunday will receive the mark of the beast and will reject the seal of God. In other words, the vast majority of Christians are doomed for worshipping our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday.”

Why did you cut off the bold part of my post? You are quote mining by taking out the context? Did I say that the SDA teaches what your prophet teaches or that your prophet teaches what I posted? This is a perfect example of changing a post for disingenuous selfish purposes and you did it on purpose.
You just lowered yourself and my initial opinion of you and your posts was

I corrected you in this post for maliciously truncating my post to say what I did not say.

Studyman said:
Your AI copy and past sermon does not teach that folks that worship God on Sunday with receive the "mark of the beast".

You again accuse me of using AI even though I told you earlier that I did not use AI.

Hentenza said:
To late. You already showed your trickery.

Ellen does. Open the link to her writings that I provided.

The founders of the SDA were even worse as they proved to be false prophets by failing in their prediction of Christ return in 1844.

Here I correct you again that I did not use AI and point you to open the link in my OP for the second time.

Studyman said:
. But there is nothing in your AI copy and post, that supports your accusation that SDA preaches that a man that worships on Sunday receives the "mark of the beast".

In this post you once again accuse me of using AI in my OP even though I have already corrected you and pointed to the attached link.

Hentenza said:
You continue with your miss-representation and disingenuous posting. There is a link at the bottom of my OP which fully cites my source. This is the second or third time that I have told you this. I did not use AI.

I correct you yet one more time that I have not used AI.

Studyman said:
That's what I thought, you can't find anything in the AI generated Post that you promote, that teaches that SDA, or Ellen White, teaches that a man who worships God on Sunday receives the "mark of the beast".

And again continue to accuse me of using AI. This is the fourth time that you have accused me of using AI even though I have corrected you three times before. You are doing this on purpose and of disrespect. It is now goading and against the site rules.

Hentenza said:
Again, I did not use AI and I posted a link to Ellen White’s own writings which is where I posted HER OWN words.

Im not going to lower myself to your level so go bother someone else.

I correct you for the 4th time.

Hentenza said:
@Studyman

Here is my OP again. I’m going to post real slow so you can comprehend what I am posting. No AI was used.

“The writings of Ellen White, a prophet of the Seventh Day Adventist church, teach that those who worship on Sunday will receive the mark of the beast and will reject the seal of God. In other words, the vast majority of Christians are doomed for worshipping our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday.

(These are my own words. No AI here)

Here are her writings:

(“Her” refers to Ellen White in case you missed it)

Reception of Mark of the Beast Future—The change of the Sabbath is the sign or mark of the authority of the Romish church. Those who, understanding the claims of the fourth commandment, choose to observe the false sabbath in the place of the true, are thereby paying homage to that power by which alone it is commanded. The mark of the beast is the papal sabbath, which has been accepted by the world in the place of the day of God’s appointment. Ev 234.1
No one has yet received the mark of the beast. The testing time has not yet come. There are true Christians in every church, not excepting the Roman Catholic communion. None are condemned until they have had the light and have seen the obligation of the fourth commandment. But when the decree shall go forth enforcing the counterfeit sabbath, and the loud cry of the third angel shall warn men against the worship of the beast and his image, the line will be clearly drawn between the false and the true. Then those who still continue in transgression will receive the mark of the beast. Ev 234.2
With rapid steps we are approaching this period. When Protestant churches shall unite with the secular power to sustain a false religion, for opposing which their ancestors endured the fiercest persecution, then will the papal sabbath be enforced by the combined authority of church and state. There will be a national apostasy, which will end only in national ruin.—Manuscript 51, 1899. Ev 235.1
When Seal of God Is Refused—If the light of truth has been presented to you, revealing the Sabbath of the fourth commandment, and showing that there is no foundation in the Word of God for Sunday observance, and yet you still cling to the false sabbath, refusing to keep holy the Sabbath which God calls “My holy day,” you receive the mark of the beast. When does this take place? When you obey the decree that commands you to cease from labor on Sunday and worship God, while you know that there is not a word in the Bible showing Sunday to be other than a common working day, you consent to receive the mark of the beast, and refuse the seal of God.—The Review and Herald, July 13, 1897. Ev 235.2
As a Result of Disregard of Light—God has given men the Sabbath as a sign between Him and them, as a test of their loyalty. Those who, after the light regarding God’s law comes to them, continue to disobey and exalt human laws above the law of God in the great crisis before us will receive the mark of the beast.—Letter 98, 1900. Ev 235.3
Caution in Presenting the Sunday Question—[We are] not to provoke those who have accepted this spurious sabbath, an institution of the Papacy in the place of God’s holy Sabbath. Their not having the Bible arguments in their favor makes them all the more angry and determined to supply the place of arguments that are wanting in the Word of God by the power of their might. The force of persecution follows the steps of the dragon. Therefore great care should be exercised to give no provocation.—Letter 55, 1886. Ev 235.4
Let the Truth Do the Cutting—Satan’s efforts against the advocates of the truth will wax more bitter and determined to the very close of time. As in Christ’s day the chief priests and rulers stirred up the people against Him, so today the religious leaders will excite bitterness and prejudice against the truth for this time. The people will be led to acts of violence and opposition which they would never have thought of had they not been imbued with the animosity of professed Christians against the truth. Ev 236.1
And what course shall the advocates of truth pursue? They have the unchangeable, eternal Word of God, and they should reveal the fact that they have the truth as it is in Jesus. Their words must not be rugged and sharp. In their presentation of truth they must manifest the love and meekness and gentleness of Christ. Let the truth do the cutting; the Word of God is as a sharp, two-edged sword, and will cut its way to the heart. Those who know that they have the truth should not, by the use of harsh and severe expressions, give Satan one chance to misinterpret their spirit.—The Review and Herald, October 14, 1902. Ev 236.2
A Call to Enlighten the Masses—I have been shown that Satan is stealing a march upon us. The law of God, through the agency of Satan, is to be made void. In our land of boasted freedom, religious liberty will come to an end. The contest will be decided over the Sabbath question, which will agitate the whole world. Ev 236.3
Our time for work is limited, and God calls us as ministers and people to be minutemen. Teachers as wise as serpents and as harmless as doves must come to the help of the Lord, to the help of the Lord against the mighty. There are many who do not understand the prophecies relating to these days, and they must be enlightened.—Letter 1, 1875. Ev 237.1

(These are Ellen White’s words from the LINK below. If you don’t know how to open it then just click on the blue word evangelism. No AI here).

Evangelism

Presenting God’s last warning message to a doomed world is the “highest, greatest work” ever given to human beings. This comprehensive handbook on ev…

egwwritings.org

Is Ellen White correct? Are those that worship our Lord on Sunday doomed to receive the mark of the beast?

(These are also my words. No AI here).

I went as far as repeating my OP to point out that no AI had been used.

Studyman said:
I find it so amazing that you can not grasp this simple truth that is revealed on the very first sentence of your AI generated post.

And what do you do? Accuse me once again for the fifth time of using AI even though I have corrected you and gone through great lengths to show that I did not use AI.

You are obviously here to try to win arguments at any cost even if you disrespect and bear false witness about the person you are posting against. You even go as far as editing your opponent’s words to say something they did not say. That is low.

I pray that other people read this and understand what has been posted in this thread and guard themselves against such trickery.

Yarddog · 2025-12-11T08:32:16-0600

Servus said:
And it may be determined this is authorized too.

It may, but it hasn't been authorized by Congress, yet.

Servus said:
9/11 wasn't a military action either. It was an act that was orchestrated and perpetrated by civilians.

What does that have to do with this? All Qaeda funded 9/11. They also launch many terrorist attacks around the world.

I acknowledge that the drug issues is horrible but it isn't like the terror attacks. Cartels don't want to kill their customers. People that use their product freely take the drugs that may kill them.

Servus said:
And the rest is the usual ulterior motives because Trump is evil conspiracy theory argument.

Trump is a walking, talking contradiction. He uses drugs as a reason to kill smugglers but pardons drug smugglers. No, this isn't about drugs. Trump loves dictators but wants regime change in Venezuela. Why? He wants something from Maduro. Venezuela says he wants their oil.

iluvatar5150 · 2025-12-11T08:28:29-0600

Servus said:
More documents that could have been released from 2021 to 2025 but were not.

Also a lawsuit that could have been filed years ago but was not.

BZZT! (mostly) WRONG. Try again.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/12/03/trump-executive-privilege-jan-6-lawsuit-00676383

According to Politico, the suit was filed five years ago and the Biden administration routinely waived executive privilege for document requests related to it. This particular subpoena was issued in September and it looks like Biden didn't get around to letting it through.

Trump's been trying to block the release of records this whole time.

DaisyDay · 2025-12-11T08:25:44-0600

Does anyone not-MAGA believe anything Miller says?

Aryeh Jay · 2025-12-11T08:24:27-0600

I have no idea where you people live. My groceries are free, my pharmacist pays me to pick up prescriptions, and I can fill up my Surburban with 32 gallons of gas for $7.25.

DaisyDay · 2025-12-11T08:24:21-0600

hedrick said:
A more serious problem that the Feds should be dealing with is the deficit. We can't keep this up. We need to put taxes back up, or give up subsidizing health care. Or both. Unfortunately both alternatives are politically difficult.

Let 'em die and scavenge their remains. We'll have fewer but richer Americans.

Robban · 2025-12-11T08:21:12-0600

stevevw said:
A hypothetical. If the bible is true and humans are in a fallen state and can only be redeemed by the tranforming blood of Christ into a new person in mind and spirit.

Then how can anyone who is not born again ever be able to truely not sin. If they do not live by the spirit but by the flesh then ultimately they will sin. They will be open to sin and corruption. Especially when in high places and positions of power and money as these are the gateways to sin without Christ as temptation is hard enough. Let alone subjecting oneself to a higher temptation.

Therefore it seems to me that if the bible is true then it stands to reason that now that secular society has completely detached itself from God that it will be inevitable that our leaders will sin and be corrupted in one way or another.

Now I know people will say, what about the church when in power and all its abuses. This is true. But I am talking about being born again and these abuses are of the flesh even though it is religion.

I am talking about as the early church was living by Christs teachings and the fellowship of the bread in Christ. Exampling Christ to the point of sacrificing themselves like Christ.

I say this as I think the sin and corruption has become so great in the world that some are returning back to the simple basics of the early church and setting an example that is above reproach.

Therefore if Christs church does rise up and can set this example of purity in being Christlike and faultless that no charges can be held against them. Do you think that this example would be enough to show that it is only through Christ that we can be set that example to the world.

Its not that people don't know right from wrong. Rather than it seems to me with all the corruption and abuse we are seeing with our leaders that we can only truely be morally good is by being reborn in Christ.

It is not God who is the problem, He can and will forgive, the problem is man as in man-man,

the last five of the big ten concern man-man.

and the overstepping is enormous, not a little

due to uncontrolled tongues.

Important to remember, "Remember what God did to Miriam."

Aryeh Jay · 2025-12-11T08:20:33-0600

He should have just stayed in the band.

essentialsaltes · 2025-12-11T08:19:16-0600

Trump still hasn’t endorsed a plan to avoid impending Obamacare hikes for millions

President Donald Trump has not endorsed a plan to prevent Obamacare rates from spiking in three weeks, leaving Republicans without a clear path ahead of a key vote.

On Thursday the Senate is expected to vote down the only GOP plan on the table, an effort by Sens. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) and Mike Crapo (R-Idaho).

White House policy teams are “looking at a lot of different avenues” and doing their own “analysis,” said one White House official, granted anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.

That has left Republicans on Capitol Hill without detailed direction from Trump and a very small legislative window to act, creating a chaotic scramble to coalesce around a solution.

“I love the idea of money going directly to the people, not to the insurance companies, going directly to the people. It can be in the health savings account, it can be a number of different ways,” Trump told reporters on Tuesday night. “And the people go out and buy their own insurance which can be really much better health insurance, health care.”

[He doesn't have a concept of a plan; nor does White House staff.]

The Barbarian · 2025-12-11T08:18:13-0600

Wannabee dictators know how to deal with violence. But unless they have complete control of the society, they are helpless before ridicule. The collapse of Trump's attempt to take over Portland lies not in mobs answering violence with violence, but with giant frogs doing the hokey pokey.

Jesus would approve.

JulieB67 · 2025-12-11T08:17:31-0600

1Tonne said:
Your argument is built on emotion, not Scripture.

So throw out all of the scripture that points to life or death? There's nothing that suggests that everlasting shame and contempt could not point to death. That would have been the last thing placed on that person. And that would be final and everlasting.

I used to believe as you did -having been taught this doctrine. But it was scripture itself that directed me to the truth. Especially when taking the bible as a whole.

1Tonne said:
It gives a contrast of two different people groups.

As does one of the most well known verses-

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

Only one person gets everlasting life in that verse, the other perishes. It does not state they have everlasting "life" in hell. The wages of sin is death period.

And Christ states that the Lake of Fire is the second "death". He still states fear the one that can destroy both body and soul in hell. Which is a second witness to the verses in Malachi on what will happen to the wicked. They will burn up, so much so that there will be neither root or branch left. They will be consumed to ashes. That's what a fire does. But I take it you're another person that doesn't believe death is really death. If one wants to believe that, one could believe anything.

1Tonne said:
, not Scripture

Most of the Bible points to life or death. There are many scriptures pointing to the fact that the fate of the wicked is death. Anyone can pick out a few verses and produce a doctrine but we have to take the bible as a whole.

1Tonne said:
If someone raped and murdered a member of your family,

Most want the death sentence. And that's the punishment portrayed in the bible as well.

1Tonne said:
Yet when the infinitely holy God judges the unrepentant who trample His grace for a lifetime

Our Father has a brand of justice, his eternal consuming fire has wiped out cities, etc. But those fires are not still burning at this moment. They are unquenchable by our standards but it does not mean they will not burn out. They served their purpose as will the Lake of Fire. Afterwards the former things will pass away and he will make all things new.

What are your views on unbelievers from another religion? Will they burn for an eternity?

Aryeh Jay · 2025-12-11T08:16:25-0600

essentialsaltes said:
About face: Lawsuit targets plan to put Trump's image on popular national parks pass
An environmental organization on Wednesday sued the Trump administration over plans to use a rendering of Trump on an all-access annual national parks pass for next year, characterizing the move as the "crassest, most ego-driven action yet" from the administration.

Federal law requires the pass to feature the winning photo of the National Parks Foundation's annual public lands photo contest, which for the 2026 pass is an image of Montana's Glacier National Park, the organization said.

[federal law schmederal law]

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"Instead of filing frivolous lawsuits, this leftist group should be thanking President Trump for enhancing opportunities for Americans to enjoy our beautiful national parks," White House spokesperson Anna Kelly said in response to the suit.

Looks better than mine.

CLEEB · 2025-12-11T08:16:00-0600

If a person is under the law then they need to keep the Ten Commandments. As Moses told the children of Israel, this is your life, choose life and live. The Sabbath day is in the Ten Commandments , number 4 , and Jesus says not one jot or tittle of the Ten Commandments has failed, they are yet in full force today. The Sabbath day is the day of worship as the Ten Commandments state. The law, the Ten Commandments are holy, just and good. All people who keep them will be blessed and those who don’t will be cursed just as the nation of Israel demonstrated in their history. Sin is the transgression of the Ten Commandments. To avoid sin a person must keep the Ten Commandments. If a person who is a Christian happens to sin by breaking the Ten Commandments they have forgiveness, they can repent. Jesus gave his life to save us from our sins If we break the Ten Commandments. The Ten Commandments were written on tables of stone by the finger of GOD and were kept in the ark of the covenant . The identifying sign that a person is a loyal Israelite was the Sabbath. The Sabbath day was a day of rest from all physical activity and our thoughts were to be only about GOD. If anyone violated and profaned the Sabbath they were to be killed. Today if the Sabbath is violated the blood of Jesus will forgive you. The Ten Commandments are the new covenant, Jesus and the Ten Commandments are the message of the gospel. IAWTTAIUM

PloverWing · 2025-12-11T08:14:28-0600

Ah, I see now. A google search tells me that Mere Christianity has been published with more different covers than I realized. The cover designs on my two copies look like this, both fairly simple:

So I guess my previous comments should be directed to the publishers, not to you. But I'll stick with my earlier thoughts. Publishers shouldn't add subtitles that Lewis didn't write, and they shouldn't Americanize his spelling.

The Barbarian · 2025-12-11T08:14:23-0600

Servus said:
More documents that could have been released from 2021 to 2025 but were not.

Actually, a lot of it was in the trials of the insurrectionists. The data the injured police officers are looking for, relates to Trump's role in inciting the insurrection and his failure to take action to stop it.

Not surprising that he's desperate enough to try to cover it up.

Servus said:
Also a lawsuit that could have been filed years ago but was not.

The law determines how late is too late. The injured officers have a right to hold the perps accountable. And the SCOTUS has ruled that Trump does not have immunity for actions that are not the legal responsibility of a president. Turns out, trying to overthrow a lawful election is not one of the duties of a president.

FAITH-IN-HIM · 2025-12-11T08:08:22-0600

rjs330 said:
It is Islamists who are the least tolerant and the most dangerous. Statistics show the places with the highest number of persecution are all Islamic. It is divided between Sub-Saharan Islamic countries and Middle Eastern. The Americas are the lowest.

With the propensity of Islamists for lying, violence and political manipulation it makes it very difficult to determine if the group will radicalize or not. And right now these are the types that have moved into Europe and are causing problems there. They are also coming here. So we can't just blindly accept them or their schools. Because we just don't know. Care and real caution are called for.

Because the Christian schools in Islamic countries are not radicalizing people the same way.

It is advisable to thoroughly review the Constitution of the United States. American Muslims possess the same legal right to establish Islamic schools as Christians do to open Christian schools within the country. The actions of certain extremist individuals do not warrant limiting or infringing upon the constitutional rights of Muslims to freely practice their religion in America.

DaisyDay · 2025-12-11T08:07:38-0600

Servus said:
Narco drug trafficking has resulted in the deaths of hundreds of citizens.

Automobile sales have resulted in the deaths of hundred of thousands of citizens and non-citizens alike.

NewLifeInChristJesus · 2025-12-11T08:01:29-0600

Michie said:
Now, I’ll bet that the vast majority of you reading this think that you made a personal decision — all on your lonesome — to receive Christ, and once done, you were a child of God in the faith.

"All on your lonesome" is what is known as a straw man. It wrongly characterizes other peoples' beliefs, then sets out to disprove it. I don't doubt that there may be some people out there who think salvation comes after a strictly personal decision without any outside influences, but I have not encountered any. So I dougt seriously that "the vast majority of you reading this" think that way.

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egwwritings.org

Trump still hasn’t endorsed a plan to avoid impending Obamacare hikes for millions

About face: Lawsuit targets plan to put Trump's image on popular national parks pass