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Do we need to be sorry to be saved?

I was listening to a sermon and within it, the pastor said that we do not need to be sorry when repenting. In Acts 3:19 it says, "Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord;" So no mention of being sorry. All we need to do is believe and turn from our sins.
I know that there are verses that say how "Godly sorrow brings about repentance", and "God desires a broken and contrite heart", but the way these verses are worded, contrition is not compulsory.

I believe we need Godly sorrow. This is like falling on the mercy of the Judge.
For instance, you had robbed a bank and then after 10 years they finally caught you and you were now before the Judge. You say to the judge without any sorrow, "Judge be lenient with me. I know I robbed the bank, but I have not done it since." The Judge is not going to be lenient. There was no sign of contrition. You were not sorry for what you had done. You are going to get the book thrown at you.
But let's say you had robbed a bank and then after 10 years they finally caught you and you were now before the Judge. You say to the judge with tears in your eyes, "I am really sorry. I know what I did was really wrong, and I wished I had never done it. It was a foolish thing to do. I am so sorry." So, you fall on the mercy of the Judge. The judge seeing your contrition will be more inclined to the possibility of a lesser sentence.

What are other people's thoughts on this? Do we need contrition? Is it a false teaching to tell others they simply need to leave their sins without any contrition?

I think at issue here is that not everyone might have the same visceral feeling.

The Bible teaches us to repent. In turning away from sin and towards Christ and the path Christ wants us to walk, there is a very serious recognition of one's guilt; a recognition of past wrongdoing - of past wrong-think also if you will.

The Godly sorrow for what you've done in the past is shown in changing course to do what is right in the sight of God.

While in your private chamber some might cry and feel shattered, others might have a less emotional reaction - but I wouldn't imagine them any less saved.

The sign of Christ is in the changed man rather than his emotional feelings. Only God can examine the heart.
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Jesus did NOT come to bring peace, but a sword

The sad truth has been that Jesus has been the point of contention in many wars in our history. Oil and water don't mix, and Jesus knew this. There was never a way that His truth was going to sit quietly with the errors of the world.

He wants there to be peace. And when everyone follows Him, there will be. But until then, there will be conflict.

Best wishes,
KT
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Ex-army man who spent 6 years building huge castle in field told to demolish it

Let's hope some kind of compromise can be reached. Seeing his handiwork makes me want to build one myself.
There is a man in Colorado who built one.

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Texas Removes 1 Million Registered Voters


Well who did they remove you might ask...

Dead people.
People who moved.
Convicted criminals.
7000 non US citizens.

The idea that 7000 noncitizens were able to register in the first place is pretty wild.

How did that happen? Is it like AZ where you don't have to prove citizenship to vote?

The nerve of Democrats suggest there's no evidence of noncitizens voting. We have evidence 7000 minimum intended to in Texas.

At this point January 6th is looking more like their fault. I understand there's no evidence of fraud (or not much) but that's because they don't require evidence to vote. Can't find a crime that can be pulled off without evidence.

well easy, in previous years and times thats happened ACTUAL voters were removed and a case of mistaken idendity, it's also against the law to remove voters 90 days before and election because it's nearly imposible for all the real voters acidently and 'accidently' removed to be added back. Good way to rig the election by making it impossible for real voters to get back on the list.
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A Question- The Joy of The Lord

Hi everyone, a question- do you experience the supernatural joy of the Lord? If so how often do you experience it? I do not have it, I have never had it, I felt it for about 5 minutes after I got saved and then it left and has never come back. I talked to my pastor and he said that he experiences it on a daily basis. Also do you experience supernatural peace? I do not have that either. Thanks!
It's about being at peace even amidst any storms. Understand God is in control and will work out things for us ... may be seen may not be seen. We trust Him no matter what.
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Does Kamala Harris want to build the wall?

There's 3 sides of the story with this one.

Conservatives: Kamala Harris has stated she will sign a bill that allows 650 million dollars to go toward building the border wall. She also used photos of portions of the border wall built by Donald Trump in a political ad stating how tough she was on illegal immigration.

Progressives: The bill was a bipartisan bill that requires compromise on Harris' behalf to get policy on other progressive issues passed. The money is also not new money, but money that was already allocated to building the wall.

Independents: Harris is playing both sides of the field.

Let's hear your opinions.
There was NOT a mass migration problem under the Trump administration, what is going on is what the Biden/Harris administration wanted to happen ... they own it ... she's just trying to garner votes and will continue with the same "policies" as has been going on for the last nearly 4 years and also further more radical policies.

The changes in the democratic party have been going on for several years and this is their playbook.

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What beliefs are universally accepted across all denominations?

I don't know of any baptist churches that recite a creed in their services like Anglicans do, but most if not all baptist beliefs would agree with, for example, the Apostles' Creed.

Not related to Baptist, but I found this article supporting the use of the Apostle's creed in Reformed churches.

KT
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Tim Walz Says He Got Into Politics Because His Students Were Kicked Out of a Bush Rally. That Doesn’t Seem to Be The Case.


Tim Walz claims that he was first inspired to seek public office after being denied entry to a rally for former president George W. Bush in 2004. But contemporaneous accounts of the story cast doubt on Walz’s version of the story.

Walz claimed in an August 2020 thread on X, formerly Twitter, that he decided to run for office after he and his students “were denied entry because the students had previously volunteered for the democratic party.”


“The last sitting President to visit my hometown of Mankato, Minnesota was George W. Bush in 2004. As a high school teacher and football coach, I brought two fellow teachers’ children to the speech as an educational experience,” Walz wrote. “It was at this moment that I decided to run for office,” Walz states in his story.

But testimonies from multiple people present at the rally suggest that the Democrat’s origin story could be missing valuable context, the Washington Examiner reportedFriday.
On the surface this might seem innocent but I will offer two reasons why this is a far larger issue. First, it is a poor reason to get into politics. Why because it is not benevolent. Getting into politics is about thinking you have an idea and desire to do better for others. Sadly, some just want to enrich themselves.

There is a movie called "working girl" where Melanie Griffith plays a secretary that has a great idea that is stolen by her boss for a merger. At the end, the CEO of the acquiring company asks them both how they came up with the idea. The secretary nails it, she gives specific details while the boss just lies in a general way. So my second criticism of Walz is more alarmist. It is worthy of speculation because: What if this is just a cover story for the "real" reason he wants to get into politics, like that he loves the Chinese so much he wants to be like them, or even worse owes them something for favors he received, or blackmail they may have on him? See he needs a cover because he can not tell the truth. Whatever the reason, Walz is politician filled with possible foreign influences that violate the spirit of America's founders wisdom of trying to protect America from being led by leaders with foreign entanglements. Though it is true (I believe) that Walz never lived overseas in the last 14 years, the 32 visits to China alone are a cause for concern.

So the story about the Bush rally is a solid red flag. Given his actions as Governor he is a weak leader, with poor ideology anyway. He is so far away from his Nebraska roots that one has to seriously consider his motivations. So you know too Walz receives less rural votes than most other midwest democrats. To put it mildly for one reason or another Walz is an outlier. "Even Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer outperformed Walz’s rural numbers." Rural voters don’t necessarily love Walz, despite the camo hat and small-town upbringing
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A look at Isaiah 1:1-27 and John 4:1-5:47

Matthew 5:20 For I say to you, If your righteousness is not greater than the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never go into the kingdom of heaven.

If one both takes part in Christian Church and Jewish Sinagogue,he can estimate. How many Christians have actually surpassed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees?
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70% Say Joe Biden and Kamala Harris’s Economy Is Getting Worse

Depends on the definition of "individual."
Multiply "individual" by 127 million and it does equal the "economy" in general.
Exactly what is "the economy" if not the individual (plural)?

Economies are the production, distribution, and trade of goods and services. It's not simply household budgets.
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HELLUCINATIONS

Specifically the Mount of Olives, which splits in half.
That is actually my aviator. Zechariah 14 4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

It took me a long time to figure out how the split can be east and west, north and south at the same time. Yet we see that is exactly what is going to happen.
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