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Majority polled blame Harris for border crisis

The border being a mess has been a rallying cry of the right for my entire life. It wasn’t just magically resolved for the duration of the Trump administration. Any solutions Biden, Harris or Trump could have come up with still wouldn’t absolve Congress from their responsibility in creating this mess and not addressing it at all.
Closing the borders is within the purview of the executive branch. The mess is that ;ew're not controlling the borders at all. Bills proposing "pathways to citizenship", while maybe a desirable thing, are worthless to stop the flow of illegals into the US.

Me? I speak Spanish, albeit poorly. My mom was a legal immigrant (from Korea). A number of my Catholic brethren are immigrants from Latin American, as good neighbors as one could ask, some legal, some not. So I'm far from "anti immigrant".

BUT... you can't just fling open the doors and holler "Y'all come!" and expect anything good to come of it. I know if I'm a Mexican criminal with los Federales on my tail, and I know that I can cross the border into the US but they can't, I'm heading north as fast as my stolen car will carry me. Same thing if I'm a poor jobless dude with a family that needs feeding, and I know that the INS will give us 3 hots and a cot if we make it across the line, then I'm headed thataway, with the frau und kinder (OK different immigrants) in tow. AND, if I'm a Bad Guy who wants to commit a few depredations in the Great Satan, aka the USA, and I don't want the authorities there to know I'm there, all I gots to do is put on a cowboy hat, tell the nice man at the border I'm a refugee named Carlos Rodriguez. that I'm fleeing oppression, shake him by the hand, nip across the border, call my Islamist amigos, and start planning our next terrorist outrage. Allahu ahkbar!

Short form - gotta control the borders.
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Is tech fueling sexual exploitation in America? What you need to know about this dire problem

With technology quickly evolving and changing, sexual exploitation is being exacerbated in the process.

Christian Post reporter Samantha Kamman joins "The Inside Story" with host Billy Hallowell to break down takeaways from the recent Coalition to End Sexual Exploitation Global Summit she attended.

At the event, attendees heard from various experts, including a former marketing director for Only Fans. Kamman breaks down some of the shocking revelations she heard and discusses her important explainer article.

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Porn pushed the PC and graphics cards and color monitors and high speed internet so folks could watch their porn from their PCs. It was the major influencer on all of that. I suspect tech is still prominent in the sex business. VPNs and crypto-payment systems and the like had their part and there will be new technology popping up on a regular basis to advance the sexual perversions.
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Embattled Georgia DA Fani Willis showed up to site of daughter’s arrest with prosecutor lover long after pair claimed affair ended

Perjury is a serious crime in the eyes of many. Since she is a Democrat going who went after Trump it likely will not matter, but still.
Perjury for what? What proof that they are any but friends? What proof they didn’t end things and then start back up again? Whatever their relationship, The NYP is basically a tabloid spreading gossip.
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The Shifting Definition of Sola Scriptura

What exactly does sola scriptura mean? That seems to be malleable.​


Sola scriptura is Latin for “by Scripture alone,” and it’s one of the key slogans of the Protestant Reformation.

I often explain it by saying that it’s the idea we need to produce Christian doctrine “by Scripture alone,” meaning—among other things—that every Christian doctrine must be explicitly or implicitly contained in the Bible.

This is how I understood it as an Evangelical, and this understanding seems confirmed by experience, as Catholics are regularly confronted by Protestant Christians with the question, “Where is that in the Bible?”—a demand to produce Scripture verses as proof of some particular Catholic belief or practice.

In recent decades, a common response by Catholic apologists is to turn this question around and say, “Where is sola scriptura in the Bible?” The point is, if every doctrine must be provable from the Bible, then sola scriptura also must be provable. If it isn’t, then it’s a self-refuting doctrine.

How can Protestants respond to this challenge? One approach is to point to verses that a Protestant thinks prove sola scriptura, but this has not been successful. There are no verses that state the doctrine outright, and the arguments by implication are weak and unpersuasive.

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There are actually verses which directly refute Sola Scriptura as defined by, for example, Seventh Day Adventists, as involving a complete rejection of all tradition. You can specifically cite 1 Corinthians 11:2 , 2 Thessalonians 2:15 and Galatians 1:8-9 , and in my experience you will simply be ignored by whoever is attacking your faith, but these texts are definitive, whereas Mark 7:13 on the other hand clearly refers to the traditions of the Pharisees, that were written down by the Scribes to become the Mishnah, which is the basis for Rabbinical Judaism.

Actually most things that I see Protestants attacking Catholics for on the forum (a) do not originate from the more tradiitonal Protestants such as the Lutherans or Anglicans, but rather come from very low church Evangelical, Fundamentalist or Restorationist groups, and (b) are actually scripturally supported. For example, the veneration of the Blessed Virgin Mary is supported scripturally, in the Magnifcat, and again later in the Gospel according to Luke ch. 11 v. 27-28, which ironically are the same verses they will try to use to promote the Antidicomarian heresy (the refusal to venerate Our Lady). Likewise there is also scriptural support for referring to priests as Father, for the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist, for the baptism of infants, for the celebration of the primary liturgical service on Sunday, for the ordination of bishops, presbyters and deacons, and just about every other thing you might be accosted with on the basis of “Where is that in the Bible?”

Whereas conversely, scriptural support for their doctrines, such as Sola Fide, Sola Scriptura, and so on, is lacking, and some, I would argue the Seventh Day Adventists contradict themselves - they wrongfully criticize the Magisterium of the Roman Catholic Church on the basis of the writings of Ellen G White, whose work they regard as inspired and infallible prophecy, despite the fact that it is riddled with historical inaccuracies.

This is why I will always defend my beloved Roman Catholic friends on this forum like @Michie and @chevyontheriver who come unfairly under attack by people who accuse them of believing in things which are unscriptural - it is not right, and most of these attacks are not only contrary to Scripture themselves, but also attack the Orthodox churches as well, and even the more traditional Protestant churches, such as the high church Anglicans and Lutherans, by implication, due to the very substantial similarities in our belief systems.

Also I regard Our Lady of Guadalupe as a Holy Icon, and consider it miraculous, in terms of how through that icon our Lord was able to convert the people of what is now the Los Estados Unidos de Mexico from the Aztec and Meso-American human sacrifice religions, which were among the most horrific forms of paganism ever to be practiced, to a pious and vital Christianity. Furthermore it is an incredibly beautiful icon.
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'God shielded him': 49ers receiver's mom thanks the Lord after son miraculously survives shooting

Wide receiver Ricky Pearsall speaks during his introductory press conference with the San Francisco 49ers in April 2024.
Wide receiver Ricky Pearsall speaks during his introductory press conference with the San Francisco 49ers in April 2024. | YouTube/David Lombardi



The mother of a San Francisco 49ers rookie wide receiver who was shot in the chest during an armed robbery is thankful that "God shielded him" from death as he has been released from the hospital after just one day.

In a statement posted to X Saturday, the San Francisco 49ers of the National Football League announced that wide receiver Ricky Pearsall was shot in an attempted robbery that afternoon. The team indicated that "he sustained a bullet wound to his chest and is in serious but stable condition."

In a Facebook post Saturday, Pearsall's mother, Erin, repeatedly gave thanks to God as she provided an update about the condition of her "baby boy."

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Andrew Cuomo to testify before Congress on COVID-19 nursing home policy

Governor Andrew M. Cuomo provides a coronavirus update from the Red Room at the State Capitol on January 29, 2021.
Governor Andrew M. Cuomo provides a coronavirus update from the Red Room at the State Capitol on January 29, 2021. | Mike Groll/Office of Governor Andrew M. Cuomo

Former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo will be required to testify before the U.S. House of Representatives over his government's policy of placing coronavirus patients into nursing homes during the COVID-19 pandemic.

House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic Chairman Brad Wenstrup, R-Ohio, announced Tuesday that Cuomo is scheduled to testify before Congress on Sept. 10.

Cuomo previously spoke with the Select Subcommittee in June for a recorded interview held behind closed doors that lasted approximately seven hours.

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Suspected shooter in custody after multiple casualties reported at Apalachee High School

The scene at Apalachee High School in Winder, Ga., in the wake of a shooting on Wednesday September 4, 2024.
The scene at Apalachee High School in Winder, Ga., in the wake of a shooting on Wednesday September 4, 2024. | YouTube/NBC News

Updated at 2:30 p.m. ET on Sept. 4, 2024: The death toll rose to four, and nine others were injured in a shooting at Apalachee High School in Winder, Georgia, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation said Wednesday afternoon. The suspected shooter, who is in custody, is believed to be 14 years old. It's unknown whether he was a student at the high school.
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Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp urged residents of the state to join him in prayer Wednesday for the multiple casualties left in the wake of an active shooter incident at Apalachee High School in Winder, Georgia, as investigators confirmed they have the suspect in custody.

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NY’s Chinese consul general ousted after Hocul aide charged with acting as Beijing agent


Walz too has ties with China. And many Chinese citizens of military age have illegally crossed our border.
I'd like to correct the NY post (as quoted in the link): Ms. Sun was not charged with espionage (or spying) but rather as a foreign agent w/o registration (and associated crimes accumulated in those task). No theft or collection of sensitive materials was involved.
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Trump says he would rehire military members fired over vaccine mandate with back pay

Former President Donald Trump vowed, if elected come November, to rehire military service members who were let go for rejecting the COVID-19 vaccination and promised they would receive an apology with back pay.

"Kamala [Harris] and Crooked Joe purged 8,000 service members from our military for refusing their COVID vaccine mandate. They refused to do it," Trump said at an Asheboro, North Carolina, rally on Wednesday.

He added, "We didn't want a mandate. The mandate — you just can't do that."

"I will rehire every patriot that was fired with an apology and back pay. They will get their back pay and an apology from our government," he declared as the crowd loudly applauded.

The Republican presidential nominee said he hopes the former military service members now have "great jobs" while "making a lot of money" but hopes they want to come back.

"The mandate stuff should have never happened," he said to the rallygoers.

As of October 2023, only 43 of the fired 8,000 service members have rejoined the military following the repeal of the vaccine mandate.

Several groups, including First Liberty Institute and New Civil Liberties Alliance, have sued over the federal vaccine mandates and unconstitutional COVID-19 executive action.

While speaking during the rally, Trump also criticized the Biden-Harris administration's handling of the military and its morale.

My friends daughter refused the vaccine during military duty about 3 yrs ago and was fired, it's gonna be a big paycheck!
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Mortality

Our lifespan is finite, and neither wishing nor worrying can extend it. Medicine may prolong it somewhat, and good, healthy food may contribute as well. Ultimately, however, death is certain. The number of our days is known to God, not to us.

Christians anticipate a resurrection and eternal life, but the nature of that existence remains a mystery. What would it mean to outlast a mountain, a planet, or even a solar system? How would one spend their days, continually finding meaningful thoughts, words, and actions? Will technology, art, and science persist after the resurrection? It's a mystery.
What give you the most joy during your Christ like life here on earth?
Would you say: Jesus seemed to take the greatest joy from helping others which also seemed to please God the most?
My thoughts on this are: There will be lots (to many really, which is my fault) people in heaven who never had the opportunity to fulfill their earthly objective, so they lack Godly type Love. Without that Love they will need to be protected and preserved for eternity. I would like to participate in protecting and preserving those I did not teach to the point of providing them the opportunity to fulfill their earthly objective. It is the least I could do and adds to my desire to allow the Spirit to work through me mentoring others.
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Pastor 24/7 ?

A pastor should not require an additional job if the church can adequately meet their needs. However, numerous small churches are unable to fully sustain a full-time pastor, who must still ensure provision for their family.

I'm worried about your title. Pastors can't be available to their congregation 24/7. Usually, I notice pastor are overworked, dedicating 50-60 hours to the church and neglecting personal time with family.

I frequently notice that pastors dedicate most of their time to business meetings other church meeting and visiting congregants, leaving little time for personal prayer and Bible study.
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Believers Who Stop Going To Church

What happens to believers who stop going to church? Do they go to hell or are there consequences?

It's not a binary on-off switch situation.

What happens to a person if they stop eating? They become malnourished, it negatively affects their health. It can, of course, result in death, that's the worst thing that could happen.

When we stop going to church it's very similar, we are depriving ourselves of the spiritual nourishment we need, and it negatively affects our spiritual health. The worst case scenario is that we make shipwreck of our faith, and we abandon Jesus, throwing away His promises--in which case we may very well find ourselves in hell. But it's not because "I stopped going to church, now I'm going to hell", it's that I am starving myself of God's grace, I am starving myself of God's word, I am quenching the Holy Spirit, and I am walking away from the hope and eternal life I have in Christ. It's why the Scriptures constantly tell us to be at the receiving end of grace--to hear God's word, to come together, partake together of God's gifts, to share life together as the Body of Christ--because this is God's ordered means for how we have a healthy, growing relationship with Him where our faith is being strengthened. Because out in the world our faith is being assailed daily by temptation, by lies, but the spiritual wrongness that exists--both within ourselves and in a world broken by sin. The devil is a scavenger, a liar, and preys on us when we are outside the safety of the sheepfold.

It's not about "Do X or else". The Church is not a social club of saints, but a hospital for sinners. The Good Physician is here in our midst. We deprive ourselves of good medicine, of spiritual nourishment, when we cease to partake of the many good things which God has given and provided for us.

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No coarse joking

Paul was being fatherly, apostolic, and authoritative in (NIV) Ephesians 5:

1 Follow God’s example, therefore, as dearly loved children.
4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving.
Focus on the Paraclete of peace dwelling in you. Check your conscience against these things.

Can married couples joke about sex, or does this fall under “coarse jesting” too?

That's up to the husband and the wife.

How about sexual humor in TV shows?

If it bothers your conscience, then don't watch it.

Is a Christian allowed to watch something like “South Park” and enjoy and laugh at the sexual humor found in it, or must we disapprove of it?

I did watch a few episodes of South Park. Later, I found it too much and stopped watching.

How about pedophilia jokes? Rape jokes? Bestiality jokes?

No. No. No. I would not listen to these.

Philippians 4:

8 Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.
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This picture?

I came across this picture. What is the symbolism or it's meaning?

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Without any context it doesn't mean anything. It appears to be three images assembled together. The upper third appears to be an image taken by a telescope of distant galaxies. The bottom two thirds comprise of an artistic interpretation of hell, and an artistic interpretation of a stereotypical devil figure in flames.

Without any context this assemblage of images means nothing. The only person that can give contextual meaning is whoever assembled the images together.

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Was the Bible sexist?

The Bible was written in a patriarchal society where men held most social, political, and religious power. Many passages reflected the norms and values of their time, which often marginalized women. There were distinctive gender roles. The writings reflected this attitude and inequality.

The central message, however, was not sexist. Galatians 3:

28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
If you think the Bible was/is sexist, then you are judging the Bible according to our modern sense of sexism. The term "sexism" emerged after the feminist movement.

Living ‘Laudato Si’ on an Urban Farm in Tennessee

COMMENTARY: As I worked to put my family’s existence into better harmony with nature, something even better happened — I started to feel myself closer to God.
Emily Zanotti poses with her infamous chicken, Kevin, and takes us along for her journey in living 'Laudato Si.'
Emily Zanotti poses with her infamous chicken, Kevin, and takes us along for her journey in living 'Laudato Si.' (photo: Courtesy photos / Emily Zanotti)

On a Tuesday in December, just before Christmas, I was given last rites.

That following Monday, my boss called me, wondering why I didn’t show up for work. She was scheduled to go on vacation, and shouldn’t I be fine by now?

I acquiesced, just as I’d acquiesced to cooking Christmas dinner the Saturday before. In my mind, I thought returning to work so quickly after an ectopic pregnancy that resulted in emergency surgery, imperiling the lives of two people and leaving one dead, would impress on my bosses and my family that I was resilient, quick to heal, and had my priorities in line. I had left Christmas Eve Mass in tears, unable to overcome the physical and emotional pain that had suddenly overtaken my life. I couldn’t focus my eyes on emails or text messages. But somehow, I was determined to prove my value. The world would not continue without me, even for a moment.

Six months later, drawn, burnt out, emotional, angry, and struggling to connect with reality, I took a buyout and retired, at the ripe old age of 40. I was useless, completely detached from my life, unable to find my purpose, and suffering from a post-traumatic stress disorder that robbed me of happiness and memory — in that short half-year, I bought and sold a house. I started and ended a company. I watched children grow and change.

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