Xeno.of.athens said:

Canon 24. (Greek xxvii.)​

That nothing be read in church besides the Canonical Scripture

Item, that besides the Canonical Scriptures nothing be read in church under the name of divine Scripture.

But the Canonical Scriptures are as follows:

• Genesis.
• Exodus.
• Leviticus.
• Numbers.
• Deuteronomy.
• Joshua the Son of Nun.
• The Judges.
• Ruth.
• The Kings, iv. books.
• The Chronicles, ij. books.
• Job.
• The Psalter.
• The Five books of Solomon.
• The Twelve Books of the Prophets.
• Isaiah.
• Jeremiah.
• Ezechiel.
• Daniel.
• Tobit.
• Judith.
• Esther.
• Ezra, ij. books.
• Macchabees, ij. books.
  • The New Testament.
    • The Gospels, iv. books.
    • The Acts of the Apostles, j. book.
    • The Epistles of Paul, xiv.
    • The Epistles of Peter, the Apostle, ij.
    • The Epistles of John the Apostle, iij.
    • The Epistles of James the Apostle, j.
    • The Epistle of Jude the Apostle, j.
    • The Revelation of John, j. book.

Let this be sent to our brother and fellow bishop, Boniface, and to the other bishops of those parts, that they may confirm this canon, for these are the things which we have received from our fathers to be read in church.

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But there were still questions being raised about what authority the deuterocanonical books had compared to the core canon throughout history. Different church fathers had some various stances, etc. There is reason why these books have been distinguished from the rest and called Deuterocanonical, and this term was coined by a Catholic, not a Protestant.

The original Hebraic Canon has not been known to contain these books.

truthpls said:

A tub has to stand on it's own legs and if the guest said things that can be shown false, why would anyone care if they had a degree or not? Looking at Tucker we find this

"Tucker applied for admission to several prestigious universities but was turned down. With the help of his future father-in-law, he was eventually accepted by Trinity College in Hartford, Connecticut."

Tucker Carlson | Biography, Education, Family, & Facts | Britannica

Tucker Carlson is an American conservative pundit who from 2016 to 2023 hosted Tucker Carlson Tonight, the most-watched cable television news show. He is known for bringing far-right viewpoints into the mainstream of American politics and for his close relationship with Pres. Donald Trump. He...

www.britannica.com

It is commonly said that history is written by the people who won the wars. So having 'credentials' from institutions in some countries would not be a positive thing in many cases when researching what probably actually happened. Let's face it, universities in some western countries could not so much as tell you the difference between a man and a woman. If we looked at the media we might find a lot of degrees and education in people there. However, most of the media lately seems to be in the same choir of propaganda dispersal rather than any sort of search for truth. So when I see someone (especially in admitted ignorance) claim that alternative sources must be bad and wrong because they lack 'credentials' that says to me that they have chosen a belief set and automatically dislike other opinions.

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What??? I wasn't talking about Tucker in my post above. Did you read my previous post?

Hammster said:

How many have given billions to Ukraine and Israel?

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Several of them have given billions to Ukraine in the last few years. (None is so foolish to give billions to a wealthy country like Israel.)

That's too bad.

Makes sense. I think those who believe in God have a better outlook on life because everything isn't an accident or random. Just my opinion, though.

To be fair, Jesus warned us about these "preachers."

Quiboloy arrested

Pastor Apollo C. Quiboloy, founder of the Kingdom of Jesus Christ (KOJC) and self-appointed son of God, has been arrested after several months of evading capture, according to Interior and Local Government Secretary Benjamin C. Abalos.

In an interview with TV reporters, Brig. Gen. Nicolas Torre III, Police Regional Office-11 (PRO-11) director, declined to categorically answer questions if Quiboloy was arrested or surrendered. He suggested that questions as to the details should be addressed to the DILG secretary.

He said Quiboloy was brought to Manila via a C-130 plane, which earlier landed at the Tactical Operations Group (TOG)-Davao at the Old Airport in Sasa located near the KOJC compound.

Quiboloy’s arrest took place on Day 16 of the police operation to serve the arrest warrants on Quiboloy and four of his five co-accused inside the KOJC compound since it started last August 24.

Quiboloy is facing charges of child abuse and qualified human trafficking, along with co-accused Jackielyn Roy, Cresente Canada, Paulene Canada, Ingrid Canada, and Sylvia Cemañes. Paulene was arrested last July 11 at her residence in Emily Homes Subdivision in Barangay Cabantian here.

The suspects have two warrants of arrest issued by the Regional Trial Court (RTC) Branch 12 in Davao City and the RTC in Pasig City in April this year.

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Typical response...for an "expert"

MartyF said:

I give you a link to a book by an Israeli Jewish Historian - You give me nada. No sources - just suppose to take the word of an Atheist.

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You're employing a few different strategies here that make honest debate near impossible.

You're basically framing this conversation in such a way where the only sources you'll as "credible" are the ones that affirm your viewpoint, and find some reason to disqualify all the others as "invalid" so that you can portray any contrasting viewpoint as "mere opinion"

You're also doing some "selective quoting". You addressed the sources that you felt could be easily "dunked on" for superficial reasons. And neglected to include the ones from a few of the other sources I mentioned.

But here's more:

As well as carrying out unlawful killings, others abducted by Hamas were subjected to torture, including severe beatings with truncheons, gun butts, hoses and wire or held in stress positions. Some were interrogated and tortured or otherwise ill-treated in a disused outpatient’s clinic within the grounds of Gaza City’s main al-Shifa hospital.
(sounds like they're using civilian infrastructure for Hamas operations, correct?)


The United Nations has found troves of rockets hidden in three of its schools since the conflict began. “We condemn the group or groups who endangered civilians by placing these munitions in our school,” Chris Gunness, spokesman for the U.N. Relief and Works Agency, said in statement.
(alternate link here, directly from the UNRWA press release: https://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/press-releases/cache-rockets-found-un-school-gaza)

Ramallah_(dpa) _ The Palestinian Authority's health ministry on Saturday accused the militant movement Hamas of turning some of its medical facilities in the Gaza Strip into detention centres.

After Israel stopped 23 days of aerial and ground attacks in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip last month, "Hamas unfortunately used several facilities, mainly a large number of hospitals, as stations for summons, interrogation, torture and detention," the Ramallah-based ministry said in a statement.

The sources I've cited in this iteration are sources that certainly aren't "Zionist sympathizers". The Palestinian Authority and the UNRWA are both very pro-Palestine entities that are very critical of Israel. Even they've reported it happening...

Unless you're making the suggestion that, though it's been a staple of the Hamas strategy since their initial takeover, they magically stopped doing those things after 2014?

MartyF said:

Palestinians have never had a chance to have an independent state.

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That's not true...in fact, they've had multiple two-state solution offers put on the table, and have turned them down every time.

They had a very fair offer in 2000 (that Bill Clinton attempted to help broker), and they shot it down.


The offer put forth was to form a Palestinian state initially on 73% of the West Bank and 100% of the Gaza Strip. In 10–25 years, the Palestinian state would expand to a maximum of 92% of the West Bank (91 percent of the West Bank and 1 percent from a land swap).

Had they accepted that offer in 2000 (given that we're approaching year 2025), they'd have been their own sovereign country at this point for nearly quarter of a century, and would've had 100% of Gaza and 92% of the west bank under their control.

Pommer said:

I wonder if they stored records in the “cloud”?

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I'm pretty confident that they'll have hidden that specific cloud in a secure place; possibly under a mattress. They're not idiots after all.

They arrested Jesus and took him to face the Sanhedrin in (BSB) Mt 26:

65 At this, the high priest tore his clothes and declared, “He has blasphemed! Why do we need any more witnesses? Look, now you have heard the blasphemy. 66 What do you think?”
“He deserves to die,” they answered.
67 Then they spit in His face and struck Him. Others slapped Him 68 and said, “Prophesy to us, Christ! Who hit You?”

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Others
οἱ (hoi)
Article - Nominative Masculine Plural
Strong's 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.

οἱ δὲ ἐράπισαν

BDAG δὲ:
① a marker connecting a series of closely related data or lines of narrative, and, as for. Freq. used in lists of similar things, with a slight call of attention to the singularity of each item
② a marker linking narrative segments, now, then, and, so, that is
③ a marker with an additive relation, with possible suggestion of contrast, at the same time
④ marker of contrast, but, on the other hand
⑤ marker of heightened emphasis, in combination w. καί but also

Whom did the definite article οἱ refer to?

ESV:

Then they spit in his face and struck him. And some slapped him.

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On Biblehub, 14 versions used "some" and 18 used "others".

A few spit in Jesus' face, and a few slapped him. Perhaps 1 or 2 did both.

Bob Crowley said:

I didn't realise the seriousness of his injury when it was first reported. The fisherman is still in hospital in a coma with a brain injury.

Update on father left in a coma after being hit by a whale

Jordan Mainstone, was fishing with his friend from a boat off Duranbah, near the NSW-Queensland border, when a whale appeared next to him at 9am on August 18.

www.dailymail.co.uk

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Dang man. We must pray for his healing, and for a swift recovery. I did not realize the seriousness either.

God bless him.

From the time the two witnesses arrive in Israel till the time of the end,the true worshipers of God are robbed,imprisoned,and killed in Israel for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God.

Why do these two witnessss not help anyone who are being persecuted in Israel ?Why is it ,they do not help the persecuted saints?





"until the time of the end, for the appointed time is still to come."


Daniel 11:33-35

Wise leaders will give instruction to many, but these teachers will die by fire and sword, or they will be jailed and robbed.

During these persecutions, little help will arrive, and many who join them will not be sincere.

And some of the wise will fall victim to persecution. In this way, they will be refined and cleansed and made pure until the time of the end, for the appointed time is still to come.

May the Lord protect them and keep them safe

Lord, I pray for the future of Canada and for the prime minister. Amen.

Welcome Gary!

I know New Zeland has a very small Catholic population.

Interesting indeed!

Glory to God!

I think he also attends the Extraordinary Form!

Left to right, Victor Fenik, J.P. Ledermann, Jocelyn Reiter, and Anna Picasso distribute bottles of holy water to new and returning students during the involvement fair on Aug. 26, 2024, at the College for Creative Studies in Detroit. Members of Detroit Catholic Campus Ministry have been distributing holy water at the start of the academic year at local colleges and universities for the past three years. | Credit: Valaurian Waller/Detroit Catholic

For three years, members of Detroit Catholic Campus Ministry have kicked off the academic year at local colleges and universities by offering new students a small, simple bottle of holy water and a prayer.

The gesture attracts students to its table at local college campus involvement fairs, serving as an invitation for new students not only to join in fellowship with Catholics on campus but also to take a blessing with them wherever they live during their first year at college.

Detroit Catholic Campus Ministry serves students at Wayne State University, the University of Michigan-Dearborn, and surrounding campuses, including Henry Ford College and the College for Creative Studies.

Continued below.

It's the same with Dr Shiplys (doctor of death) with his 250 victims & more, do they deserve to go to heaven although they may have not been saved ?

Time, it isn’t on our side.
Clocks are ticking. Hours go by.
Satan’s lurking ‘round the bend.
Life eternal’s without end.

See, the church is fast asleep.
Satan’s dressed like Li’l Bo Peep.
Gospel message watered down.
Many preachers act like clowns.

Pornographic Liter’ture
In the pockets of “mature.”
Scanty clothing all around.
Decency is rarely found.

Make excuses, then God blame:
Follow Him? “Now, that’s insane!”
Turn from your sin? “Surely not!”
Obey His Word? “That’s a plot!”

Follow idols? “Surely do.”
Watch what’s garbage? “So, what’s new?”
Television fries your minds;
Mystifies you; makes you blind.

Listen, then, the Word of God –
Nurtures sheep with staff and rod.
Hope, in truth is surely found.
Heaven’s home is where I’m bound.

Follow Jesus where He leads.
Listen to Him. His Word heed.
He forgives you of your sins.
Walk in freedom, cleansed within.

Forsake idols. Glad you’ll be.
Live with Him eternally.
Soon He’s coming back for you.
Live in vict’ry. Trust what’s true.

You’ll be surely Glad you did,
When, in Jesus, you’re now hid.

An Original Work / May 30, 2018

Hebrews 6:1-3 ESV


So, why is it that the apostles kept repeating these same elementary doctrines of Christ throughout the New Testament? It wasn’t so much for the unsaved, for their writings were written to the church congregations.

So, why did the church need to have these elementary truths reinforced over again?

It was partly because some of them kept wandering off from the truth, and they were returning to some or all their former ways. And or it was because they were being led astray by wolves in sheep’s clothing who had secretly slipped in among the sheep to deceive them into following a false god and a false gospel message. And, so there were many false believers in Jesus, too.

And, the same is true today. For, these false shepherds of the people are leading the sheep (or prospective sheep) to follow a false god of the flesh which grants permission for the ‘believer’ to continue living in sin while claiming heaven as his eternal destiny. For, this false god (antichrist) appeals to the appetites of the flesh and gives the people what they want.

And, this false faith of this false god reduces Jesus Christ to something he is not, as though he is weak and powerless to save us from slavery to sin, and as though all he can do is forgive us our sins so that we won’t be punished for our sin. For, they make him out like he is powerless to empower us to live in victory over sin, so he must allow us to continue in sin, which is a lie!

So, we aren’t going to be able to move away from these elementary truths of the gospel of our salvation because there are far too many wolves in sheep’s clothing within the gatherings of the church who are convincing congregants that they can live in their sins and still be saved from sin. And, so we must keep reinforcing these truths in opposition to the lies to rescue people from the darkness and to bring them into the light.

For, salvation from sin means we die with Christ to sin that we might live to Christ and to his righteousness (Rom. 6:1-23; Eph. 4:17-24; 1 Jn. 1:5-9).

Hebrews 6:4-8 ESV


“See More”

Have you ever read a blog post or an article on the internet which only revealed a small portion of the post or article, followed by something like “see more” as a link to the remainder of the article or post? The larger portion of the article is hidden until you click on “see more,” is it not?

Well, that is what these false shepherds of the people do. They hide the larger portion of the gospel message so that you only see a very condensed part of the overall message, but then they have removed the “see more” link, because they don’t want you to see the entire message. And, this part of Hebrews 6 is definitely one of those passages they like to keep hidden.

For, the promises of God they want you to know about are the ones that would appear to indicate that if you merely professed faith in Jesus Christ that you would be forgiven your sin and have eternal life with God guaranteed, regardless of how you live your life from that moment on. And, then all the blessings of God promised in Scripture to the repentant and obedient would be yours without any repentance or obedience required.

Sowing and Reaping

So, the picture we have here is of someone who has been taught the Scriptures, perhaps from birth on up to adulthood. He (or she) has had full access to the truths of God’s Holy Word. He knows all about the Holy Spirit. He knows, too, about God’s requirements of repentance and obedience as part of believing faith in Jesus Christ. He is not lacking at all in biblical knowledge. And, he has probably professed full abiding faith in Jesus Christ.

Yet, no matter how long he has known the Scriptures, and known the judgments of God, and known God’s requirements for salvation from sin and for eternal life with God, he has continued on his sinful course, holding his hand up to God as if to say “NO!” to his commands, and thus, by the act of his free will, he has shut the door to his eternal salvation.

For, he seeks after the pride of life and the lusts of the eyes and the lusts of the flesh, instead. His god is his stomach, i.e. his sensual and fleshly appetites, and he does what is evil in God’s sight, as a matter of practice. And he has continued to do so no matter how many times God has spoken to his heart and convicted him of his sin and has lovingly called him out of his sinful lifestyle into obedience to himself.

Rather than turning to the Lord to supply his needs, he seeks after self-gratification and self-indulgence to meet what he feels are his needs. So, rather than forsaking his idol, he embraces his idol regularly. He is a lazy glutton, seeking only after what brings him satisfaction without regard for God, and no matter who gets hurt in the process. For, his idol takes first place in his heart. So, the path he is on is a slippery slope, not the way of righteousness and eternal life with God, so it will end in disaster.

For, we are all going to reap what we sow. If we sow to please the flesh, from the flesh we will reap destruction (decay, death). But if we sow to please the Spirit, from the Spirit we will reap eternal life (Gal. 6:7-8; Rom. 8:1-17; 1 Jn. 1:5-9; Gal. 5:16-21; Rom. 2:6-8; Eph. 5:3-6; 1 Jn. 2:3-6).

Hebrews 6:9-12 ESV


So, what things belong to salvation? Jesus said that if we want to come after him, we must deny self and take up our cross daily and follow (obey) him. He said if we hold on to our lives (of sin and self), we will lose them for eternity. But if we lose our lives (die to sin and self), we will gain eternal life with God (Lu. 9:23-26; cf. Rom. 8:1-17; 1 Jn. 1:5-9).

And, the apostles taught us that faith in Jesus Christ means dying with Christ to our old lives of sin and being resurrected to newness of life in Christ Jesus. They taught us the truth that is in Christ Jesus that we are to forsake our former lives which are corrupt according to our deceitful desires, that we are to be renewed in the spirit of our minds, and that we are to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness (1 Pet. 2:24; 2 Co. 5:15; Rom. 6:1-23; Eph. 4:17-24; Tit. 2:11-14).

We are to no longer walk according to our flesh, but we are to walk according to the Spirit of God if we want to have eternal life with God. Daily we must die to sin and live to God (Rom. 8:1-17; 1 Jn. 1:5-9; Lu. 9:23-26).

So, as followers of Jesus, we are not to be loafers, idolaters and those who refuse God’s warnings and his gentle whispers to our hearts convicting us of sin and calling us to true repentance and to obedience to Christ. But we are to continue in Christ and in putting to death the deeds of the flesh daily, and in walking in obedience to our Lord.

And, we are to keep speaking the truth in love, too, no matter if people listen or they fail to listen, and no matter if we are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, too. For, many are lost for lack of true shepherds, and they need to be told the truth which can save their souls from hell, and which can give them true freedom from sin.

Oh, to Be Like Thee, Blessed Redeemer

Lyrics by Thomas O. Chisholm, 1897
Music by W. J. Kirkpatrick, 1897

Oh, to be like Thee! blessèd Redeemer,
This is my constant longing and prayer;
Gladly I’ll forfeit all of earth’s treasures,
Jesus, Thy perfect likeness to wear.

Oh, to be like Thee! full of compassion,
Loving, forgiving, tender and kind,
Helping the helpless, cheering the fainting,
Seeking the wandering sinner to find.

O to be like Thee! lowly in spirit,
Holy and harmless, patient and brave;
Meekly enduring cruel reproaches,
Willing to suffer others to save.

O to be like Thee! while I am pleading,
Pour out Thy Spirit, fill with Thy love;
Make me a temple meet for Thy dwelling,
Fit me for life and Heaven above.

Oh, to be like Thee! Oh, to be like Thee,
Blessèd Redeemer, pure as Thou art;
Come in Thy sweetness, come in Thy fullness;
Stamp Thine own image deep on my heart.

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