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iluvatar5150 · 2025-11-24T06:02:42-0600

Matt5 said:
If only Kamala had gotten elected, then we would be in good shape as millions of illegals keep flooding across the border.

Where do you think economies come from? The sky?

They come, at least in part, from people. And if your birth rate is below the replacement rate, then you can only get those new people via immigration.

RDKirk · 2025-11-24T06:01:31-0600

Yarddog said:
Okay, you convinced me. Those Nazi guards deserved to die because they weren't wise enough to say no,

They were convicted of breaking German laws.

Yarddog said:
and everyone responsible for killing those civilians in speed boats will deserve the same because they are too dumb to know it's wrong to kill.

They are not breaking US laws.

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2025-11-24T05:56:53-0600

jonojim1337 said:
This is 15km with a 100x zoom. I doubt you can see that far with the naked eye.

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I don't even think you actually watched the video, since it still shows a horizon and the haze and curve to be expected from a horizon.

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2025-11-24T05:54:36-0600

ChubbyCherub said:
Thanks.

I mean, personally, I don't care one way or the other. Someone's viewpoint has no bearing on my life, whatsoever, but I wanted to know if I was missing something about why so many people passionately engage in this specific topic.

The second point you make makes sense and, really, is such a shame. There are bigger issues in the world but I appreciate we all need distraction and entertainment.

I hope you all figure it out! I don't want to fall off the Earth on vacation because we got it wrong!

Oh, don't worry about that. The ice wall around the edge will stop anyone falling off. (I'm being sarcastic)

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2025-11-24T05:53:45-0600

jonojim1337 said:
This is 15km with a 100x zoom. I doubt you can see that far with the naked eye.

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How far can the human eye see?

"The range of vision for a person is infinite. You can see for miles and miles. On a clear day, you can see for up to 3 miles before the horizon due to the curvature of the earth. Yet you can see skyscrapers in a further distance than 3 miles due to no horizon obstruction.

If you look into the sky you can see stars during the night that are millions of miles away. It is easier to see objects that are bright and big. For example, the moon, sun, stars, etc.

The furthest you can see in the ocean is about 2.9 miles cause of the horizon limit due to the earth’s curvature."

jonojim1337 · 2025-11-24T05:51:42-0600

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
My own eyes. If the Earth was flat, I should have no need to use any optics apart from my own eyes see the Isle of Man at 70 miles away from me, since the horizon would not exist at 3 miles distant. Such a thing would not exist on a flat Earth, only a globe Earth.

This is 15km with a 100x zoom. I doubt you can see that far with the naked eye.

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Apple Sky · 2025-11-24T05:47:58-0600

jonojim1337 said:
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Why would this experiment be embarrassing to anyone.

Albert Einstein was part & parcel of the establishement. Tesla was not & this is why he ended up penniless & his documents all stolen, just before he died.
Tesla knew all about how to get free energy from the Ionosphere but Governments didnt want the public to know this, nope, they wanted to put a meter on it first.

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2025-11-24T05:47:12-0600

ChubbyCherub said:
I understand that but don't people think odd things of every subject imaginable?

I just don't understand why this is such a hot topic?

Because it just absolutely flies in the face of what we know about the Earth, what we've studied of the Earth and also what we've known for centuries.

Because they seem to want to make this an issue of the Bible, even though it is something that really has no bearing on salvation through accepting Christ as Lord and Saviour.

Because they want to make it a hot topic.

Andrewn · 2025-11-24T05:46:17-0600

Reluctant Theologian said:
it does refer to God, and not the Son of Man / Messiah.

I appreciate how many Church Fathers shared this perspective. However, the OrthodoxWiki article that @Lukaris referenced highlights that several influential Church Fathers actually connected the Ancient of Days with the Son of God.

Since God the Father is invisible, as many biblical passages point out, this interpretation brings a meaningful insight to the discussion. Moreover, the description of Christ in Revelation I, which I quoted, suggested he is the Ancient of Days.

Orthodox traditions interpret the vision of the Ancient of Days as a prophetic image of Christ before his incarnation. God the Father is generally not depicted in Orthodox iconography.

Again, God the Father is invisible. The large number of Church Fathers who identified the Ancient of Days as the Christ cannot be simply ignored. (Please review the article.)

The Ancient of Days is the Son of God and not the Father.

JimR-OCDS · 2025-11-24T05:43:11-0600

Cosmic Charlie said:
Am I seriously being asked to accept the Theological judgement of J.D. Vance over the Pope on matters of Catholic thinking and judgement?

It's a political judgement by Pope Leo, not a theological one.

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2025-11-24T05:42:44-0600

jonojim1337 said:
What is it that the special relativity provides a (partial) remedy for in this case, do tell.

Not a clue. All I was doing was showing that you didn't know what the intent and purpose of the Michelson-Morely experiment was, despite even a cursory glance of it on the internet showed what the intent and purpose of the experiment was.

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2025-11-24T05:41:40-0600

jonojim1337 said:
What optics are you using.

My own eyes. If the Earth was flat, I should have no need to use any optics apart from my own eyes see the Isle of Man at 70 miles away from me, since the horizon would not exist at 3 miles distant. Such a thing would not exist on a flat Earth, only a globe Earth.

Chesterton · 2025-11-24T05:41:28-0600

The Liturgist said:
Also not Orthodox doctrine as far as I can tell, but perhaps I’m wrong, to which I would defer to @prodromos or @HTacianas or @FenderTL5 or @Chesterton .

Are you Eastern Orthodox? Because your profile indicates this.

IMHO, it sounds like those orthodox Jews who are anti-Zionists, and think the modern state of Israel shouldn't exist because they think their messiah hasn't come yet.

jonojim1337 · 2025-11-24T05:41:24-0600

Warden_of_the_Storm said:

What is it that the special relativity provides a (partial) remedy for in this case, do tell.

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2025-11-24T05:39:55-0600

jonojim1337 said:
Einstein believed in the aether?

jonojim1337 · 2025-11-24T05:39:21-0600

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
Nope. On a flat Earth, perspective would have nothing to do with.

I am at sea level. The Isle of Man is 48 metres above sea level. On a flat Earth, I should have absolutely zero problems seeing it. But I cannot, hence, the Earth is not flat.

What optics are you using.

DragonFox91 · 2025-11-24T05:39:10-0600

High Fidelity said:
What do you mean? Are you waiting for divine intervention?

You can only talk to who you’re given to talk to.

Yes, I do think it’s all an act of God.

You control very very little of what goes on in your life

That’s fine I guess. Most are chasing the world anyways and I would be unhappy with them

The ones you do talk to, they’re not interested. They’re they’ve been taught to marry a copy of Jesus

They’re always perfect for each other. There isn’t one like that for me. So it doesn’t work.

jonojim1337 · 2025-11-24T05:38:00-0600

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
The answer is the paragraph I copy and pasted. It's in the very first sentence even.

Einstein believed in the aether?

BelieveItOarKnot · 2025-11-24T05:37:53-0600

bling said:
Since God has the power to send the Devil and his messengers to hell, why were they ever allowed to spent time on earth? What is their purpose for being here?

There's many reasons, one of which is kind of awesome in Romans 11:32

Romans 11:32

For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

bling said:
People who go to hell are to be forgotten, which being annihilated would help provide. So why have their names?

There is not one single named person said to have that fate in the entire Bible nor is there one named person in the entire Bible even threatened with that fate.

Jesus is The Savior of the world, remember? Not some wannabe

bling said:
I said they are annihilated, some sooner than later.

These people would be extremely unhappy in heaven

God kills, God makes alive. Blessed be the Name of the Lord

No one knows what life is going to be like apart from our current demonic influencers in any case so we have no idea what makes people happy or unhappy past this current life. That's just an excuse to have your neighbors and loved ones annihilated, which is the opposite of HOPE and LOVE for them all.

bling said:
Man’s earthly objective drives everything (as it should), but you seem to have satan driving everything on earth, leaving man without an objective. The Devil is a tempter, but humans have free will to allow satan entry and allow him to stay.

Hmmm? Man's earthly objective? Are you in to works salvation or what?

And humans have no choice in temptations as in stopping them. Zero. No one is free from that NOR are they free from the defilement that comes from evil lawless thoughts. Mark 7:21-23 applies to everyone.

bling said:
If we are the victim and not the criminal, with satan being the criminal, then why Does God allow satan to continue to be around and in us?

Why did God punish Eve?

God ALWAYS meant for there to be a first man/person and a last. 1 Cor. 15:45-49 lays out a basic principle of God's Operations, that being FIRST the natural, THEN the spiritual.

The habitations of Satan and devils are dying dust piles, you, I and everyone else inclusive.

bling said:
Why are humans being tortured here on earth with satan living in them?

See Romans 11:32 cited previously.

The very first command God gave that we can read is that light would shine from the darkness.

His Light is LOVE in mankind, shining in the darkness of evil

2 Corinthians 4:6

For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

Gal. 4:1-3
Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.
Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:

We're supposed to have dominion OVER our adversary, not denial that we are bound to same in the flesh.

People who run around trying to damn everyone to hell who doesn't believe like them remain in the darkness of our adversary. Nothing personal. It happens to everyone. It' not even them doing it, but the beast they carry in their own hearts.

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2025-11-24T05:36:27-0600

jonojim1337 said:
So what caused this serious embarrassment.

The answer is the paragraph I copy and pasted. It's in the very first sentence even.

jonojim1337 · 2025-11-24T05:34:53-0600

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
I'll just copy and paste since I want to see if you understand it from that:

"The result was negative, in that Michelson and Morley found no significant difference between the speed of light in the direction of movement through the presumed aether, and the speed at right angles. This result is generally considered to be the first strong evidence against some aether theories, as well as initiating a line of research that eventually led to special relativity, which rules out motion against an aether. Of this experiment, Albert Einstein wrote, "If the Michelson–Morley experiment had not brought us into serious embarrassment, no one would have regarded the relativity theory as a (halfway) redemption.": 219 "

So what caused this serious embarrassment.

Nauhatsky · 2025-11-24T05:33:35-0600

Bobthebomb said:
Looks like I am lost.
I have been searching for a while subconsciously, which is how I found my way here.
Tonight was too much, I asked God and Jesus into my life.

Nothing. I feel more alone than ever.

I’d lost most of my sense of direction and didn’t think faith had anything left to offer me. Reading one of thementoringproject.com’s guides on renewal helped me slow down, face my mistakes, and start again.

A2SG · 2025-11-24T05:32:30-0600

The Righterzpen said:
Society accepted cross dressing of actors… because it was theatre. (Theatre is not real life.) The actors were not trying to pass themselves off as women in society.

I never said they did. The claim was made that society did not embrace cross dressing. My point is that it has embraced it for centuries.

The Righterzpen said:
No one cares if you want to go to a gay bar dressed in drag.

Or perform somewhere else in drag. It's acceptable in many different venues.

The Righterzpen said:
And kids don’t end up confused when the adults in their lives explain to them that bugs bunny isn’t real.

Nor are they confused by Bugs dressing as a woman occasionally. Nor when Robin Williams did it, or Tom Hanks, or Dustin Hoffman.

-- A2SG, or even Ronald Reagan......

Dan1988 · 2025-11-24T05:32:08-0600

Jipsah said:
That's certainly what they say. And it sounds better than saying that God chucks the majority of those He's ever created into eternal torment knowing that's where they'd end up based on His design.

No, nobody would ever suggest something so ridiculous. Hell is eternal torment in fire, I don't believe anyone is crazy enough to jump into a lake of lava voluntarily. No, the Bible tells us that Jesus casts sinners into the lake of fire while they beg for mercy, but He shows them no mercy.

So the truth is far from anyone choosing to jump into the lake of fire, they are thrown in there against their will.

I'm not going to get into this futile discussion around why God didn't chose to save everyone. It's none of my business and it's none of your business either. It's Gods business alone, He has not revealed His reason for not saving everyone. He has in fact hidden most of what He does from us.

If you seek to get into the mind of God, then you are guilty of practicing Witchcraft. We know what happened to Saul, when He tried to get into the mind of God, via a Witch, he committed suicide right away, so I advise everyone I know, not to dabble in Witchcraft Necromancy.

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2025-11-24T05:30:50-0600

jonojim1337 said:
Why don’t you explain.

I'll just copy and paste since I want to see if you understand it from that:

"The result was negative, in that Michelson and Morley found no significant difference between the speed of light in the direction of movement through the presumed aether, and the speed at right angles. This result is generally considered to be the first strong evidence against some aether theories, as well as initiating a line of research that eventually led to special relativity, which rules out motion against an aether. Of this experiment, Albert Einstein wrote, "If the Michelson–Morley experiment had not brought us into serious embarrassment, no one would have regarded the relativity theory as a (halfway) redemption.": 219 "

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