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Georgia Man shot at young shopper outside Lowe’s he thought was stealing. He thought he should be rewarded, witness says

“I saw a white male shooting at another person, a Black male,” said Michael Starks, who was in the parking lot when the shooting happened. “He could have hit him in the back, could have killed him, could have had a stray bullet that struck someone else.”

Police say 64-year-old Steven Douglas Wagner pulled a pistol and fired near the garden center around 3 p.m. at the store on Atlanta Highway.

A Lowe’s employee told police the young man had not stolen anything, according to Starks.

Starks called 911 and followed Wagner back into the store and snapped a photo that helped police make an arrest within minutes.

He said Wagner’s demeanor was concerning.

“He honestly thought he did nothing wrong and should have been rewarded for his actions,” Starks said.
Let me check on what gun owners think about this.

The usual attitude is that you don't shoot at people running away from shoplifting.

The store has insurance for merchandise. You might hit someone else. You won't get a medal for heroism.

You're going to pay tens of thousands for a lawyer even if you get off.

And you're probably not going to get off.
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Grammy-nominated musician struck and killed by driver with over 100 arrests in Rhode Island, police say

Exactly. As crime accumulate actual jail time should get longer and longer so that society is protected from habitual criminals. That is the conservative approach.
To me that’s the common sense approach. ;)
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The Church Divided

Yes. And if we are supposed to believe that the pulpit guarantees us that truth will be taught, then how come so much false doctrine and baloney also gets spewed from behind pulpits? Most all cultic leaders came from behind a pulpit, and still use a pulpit. Many strange doctrines still get broadcasted from pulpits.

The church is told 'FROM the pulpit' that 'What they are hearing FROM the pulpit is nothing but truth FROM God!' And the congregation is told that they should subject themselves 'to the pulpit' and the message - 'because' the pulpit has the 'approval of the pulpit!!'
This is circular reasoning, and has more in common with ex cathedra than it has to do with truth and what scripture warned us of. And the authority of Gods Word (and the believers place in the body of Christ).

It may be subtle, but quite often the pastor or preacher will weave into the sermon somewhere that 'God wants you to hear this', or 'God told me to tell you', or 'God revealed to me today..' as if they are always getting and giving some message directly from God!

Thats manipulation, and God told me to tell you that...
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Serious Denial




How should i handle this?

Ok so during my father in laws funeral today something deeply offensive to me happened. My sister in law happened to marry a full blooded jew and today after communion during the funeral and after my Jewish brother in law came up to the priest for a blessing the priest says "we have a jew in our midst today. Please pray for him because hes in need of salvation." And he singled my brother in law out and made him feel like an outcast. There were plenty of atheists at the funeral. There was a Buddhist. Why did he have to single out the one Jewish man in the church DURING A FUNERAL when my sister in law was grieving and my brother in law was trying to comfort her! And the worst part is all my brother in law wanted from the priest was a blessing from God and he instead he was singled out and targeted. True he needs christ true he is unsaved. But a funeral is NOT the time to bring that up when a family is grieving.

And then he goes and brings it up again during the burial! What should I do? Should I try to comfort my brother in law before leaving back to New York tomorrow? Should I apologize to my sister in law? Should I do anything? Im just angry and offended and I just dont know how to handle this situation. Help?

Dear Pete Hegseth, I’m Grateful the Japanese Navy Spared My Grandfather’s Life

Yep! As long as the drug runners are in international waters, it is open season.
Well, it's quite a dismal abrogation of your self imposed duty in arguing for the extra judicial killing of drug runners in now suggesting that they must be granted all legal and morally accepted forms of due process should they cross an arbitrary line designating territorial waters.

What pathetic, liberal, bleeding-heart, left wing dross is this? Shame on any true red, white and blue blooded MAGA supporter who likewise supports and mollycoddles these terrorists.

As Trump said, you must kill them all. Make it known that drug dealers reaching 'a safe point' like some made up rule in a kids' game (nah, nah, I'm safe! Can't kill me now!) is something up with which you are not going to put!

Stand up and be counted! Nail those patriotic colours to that new White House mast and make the president proud!

The world will turn away in embarrasment, but don't you fret about that.
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Anyone up for a chat thread?

We ate lunch in an Asian buffet on the city centre in Munich. The waitress was trying to be personable and asked me if I was Australian! Apparently handsome white blokes who wear ear flap hats and speak good English are Australian. I was amused.
I think she's confused about the national headwear. ;)
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Human/chimp genomic similarity drops to ~85%: for real this time?

I would go to Sunday school and hear how God created us, then go to school and learn how [Gaia] created us.

I'm thankful that I learned the Truth in my earlier years; else I may have suffered cognitive dissonance and ended up choosing the wrong path.

Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

Well, I see that some things haven't changed in the past seven years, such as the style of argument that you're fond of making. I know you're aware of this already, but some of us don't see a contradiction between those two things. That's one of the points made in my book.

Seeing as you're this forum's most dedicated creationist poster, I'd be willing to send you a copy for free. The only things I'd require in return are the postage, and a promise that you'll read all of it. And before you dismiss my book as "evolutionist claptrap" or something similar, notice that it's been cited in a positive manner by professional creation scientists, in this paper. (It's the book cited as "Kane et al. 2016".) Please let me know if you're interested.
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FBI fires agents who, to de-escalate the situation, knelt at protest after George Floyd's death: Sources

Would it have been so bad if the FBI agents had chosen to kneel to show solidarity with the protestors?

In the march in our town in 2020, some police officers walked alongside us to help ensure that everything stayed peaceful and to make sure traffic stopped for us when we crossed streets. When we got to the park that was our end point and had a short ceremony (prayers from local clergy, etc.), the police officers knelt when we did. I took that as a statement from them that they disapproved of Floyd's killing and similar acts of excessive police violence, and I was encouraged that our local officers were making that statement.
Sounds good to me!
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Consequences of firing government employees - USDA says it accidentally fired officials working on bird flu and is trying to rehire them

Trump admin is ‘trying to put out a fire they started’ at Weather Service as a cold, snowy winter looms

The National Weather Service is working to hire back hundreds of positions laid off or otherwise cut by the Trump administration, but it’s progressing at a snail’s pace, with about 80 final job offers accepted for meteorologists, hydrologists and other specialized staff.

The agency received permission in late July to add a total of 450 people after about 550 were cut by DOGE earlier this year. The decision to authorize new hires came after lawmakers and citizens expressed concerns about how the NWS cuts would impact public safety.

The slow hiring means the Weather Service is going into yet another critical storm season with more than a dozen forecast offices forced to get by with serious staff vacancies, potentially undermining the accuracy of forecasts and warnings during powerful winter storms.

There is still one forecast office, located in Hanford, Calif., that is too short on staffing to operate 24/7, according to a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) official who requested anonymity for fear of retribution.

Right now, there are nine NWS offices that are launching balloons at a cadence of once per day, the NOAA official said. [instead of the usual 2]
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Dear Pete Hegseth, I’m Grateful the Japanese Navy Spared My Grandfather’s Life

The answer is none.
Yep, mine was a trick question, too.
The last time congress executed their power to declare war was for WW2.
Yes, now, the President has to get authorization to use military force.
So when you think about all the wars and conflicts the United States either started or got involved, it was not because Congress declared war. So the notion that we cannot be at war with drug cartels because "only congress can declare war" is nonsense.
We are not "at war" with drug cartels. Only Congress can designate that. Not nonsense, fact.
Trump is pushing his authority to new limits and this hasn't been decided if it is legal.
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B flat B♭

Imagine complaining about a continent not being visible when all of ancient history tells us we have a submerged continent.
Imagine not being able to explain multiple flights per week between continents in the Southern Hemisphere that are impossible on any flat earth model.

Oh wait, you don't need to imagine it.
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State leaders speak out about plans to expand the Islamic Academy of Alabama

I didn't say I expected them to have that exact quote. I said I expected them to support your claim. They don't. They support a claim along the lines of "Islamism is dangerous and concerning." They don't support the claim you made, "Islamism is the biggest and most deadly threat in the world today."

Do you see the difference?
No because if you recognize why its concerning you will see why its the biggest threat. Because there is no other group that is bigger. I didnt even mention the amount of death and destruction Islamists have done world wide because I didn't think I would need to. Islamism in all its forms most certainly is the biggest and most deadly threat.
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Do Your Actions Speaks Louder then your knowledge?

There it is again. It is by Grace that ye are saved, through faith, and that not of ourselves, lest any man should boast.

We are unprofitable servants. Meaning, NOTHING you will ever do will profit you.
Indeed. The only wages people will receive are the wages of sin, which death. All else that God gives is by His mercy and grace alone.
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Georgia Man shot at young shopper outside Lowe’s he thought was stealing. He thought he should be rewarded, witness says

“I saw a white male shooting at another person, a Black male,” said Michael Starks, who was in the parking lot when the shooting happened. “He could have hit him in the back, could have killed him, could have had a stray bullet that struck someone else.”

Police say 64-year-old Steven Douglas Wagner pulled a pistol and fired near the garden center around 3 p.m. at the store on Atlanta Highway.

A Lowe’s employee told police the young man had not stolen anything, according to Starks.

Starks called 911 and followed Wagner back into the store and snapped a photo that helped police make an arrest within minutes.

He said Wagner’s demeanor was concerning.

“He honestly thought he did nothing wrong and should have been rewarded for his actions,” Starks said.
Sigh. People are so more important than guns. He shouldn’t be rewarded because his perception was wrong, or if he was mistaken.
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