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Marjorie Taylor Greene to resign in January

I didn't say they shoved her out, I said they should've made an effort to get her to stay (instead of laughing about the fact that she's leaving)
Nah. I’m just gonna laugh and be glad she’s gone. They did this to themselves. All those years of loyalty to Trump have amounted to absolutely nothing. I think Republicans need to see what their loyalty to this man gets them. Nothing.

Personally, I think an even bigger even more MAGA candidate, more obsequious to Trump, would be easier to beat than someone who’s shown at least a tiny bit of independent thought on the right. People are starting to tire of this slavish mindset that everything has to go through him before anyone can do anything for themselves. It’s going to tear the GOP apart. It’s already starting to.
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The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

And why is that? (Because the old people have fully developed brains and understand what's going on children don't!)


Except the 2 to 3 percent of the population that represents LGBTQ++ are not "we the people". We live in a constitutional republic. Where are the rights of the majority?

But hey, in this constitutional republic; if you want to rent a space and advertise "drag queen show for children"; you are free to do so. No one is going to stop you. And those who want their kids to participate can take them there. (After all it's just fun. Right?)

Things that parents do not want their kids seeing; should not be "part of the curriculum" of public education; where the parents have no say in what happens in the school.

If you would object to "Roman Catholic School style public education for K-12" based on "religious freedom"; why should I accept an ideology that idolatrarizes sexuality?
Believe it or not, there are teachers who do not want to teach this to children, and “they should just quit” in not an acceptable response.
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Read post above.
I did, if you mean the post where you mentioned the number 140,600,000 in relation to the forum to which you posted a link. But as I said before, it is a forum, where people post their opinions. Anyway, I read the page that your link took me to, and couldn't find one post that said that COVID was no more than flu. The s word "flu" or "influenza did appear twice on the page:

"After seven long, weary weeks of tedious house-arrest, under the unlawful diktat of a corrupt government, the catastrophic consequences for the economy and the mental health of the public is infinitely more dire than an outbreak of common influenza and this was patently obvious from the outset."

"What are they basing their ideas upon ... that the flu is going to vanish ... and somehow nobody will get infected ?"

Neither of those quotes mentions COVID being no more than flu.
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Church is boring

I haven’t been going to church in a while. I feel like it’s boring. I find myself daydreaming and the sermons are good, but I really don’t like to sing or stand up. I like just saying prayers and even though the sermons are good, I don’t feel like going. I’m not really getting anything out of the Bible study, either, which is online. When I do go to church, I do tithe.
Am I falling away or is this not the right church for me? The people are nice.

In general, what brings you close to God, and what helps you make an offering to God?

It's different for different people. Some thrive on extemporaneous prayer, some on liturgical prayer, some on silence in God's presence. Some people find God in careful study of the Bible and theology. Some people make their best offering to God through service to others.

What is it for you? When do you feel closest to God?
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The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

No it’s actually a progressive left wing policy which many blue states still endorse. Schools do indeed counsel children exhibiting gender dysphoria and some schools, for example California, do not inform the parents. This is insane.

If there are parents as ignorant about what trans is as conservatives in this forum then students will definitely need a little counselling before they decide to come out at home.
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Creation of Man patterned after God - the GodHead

It’s very difficult to see that there are three that are God - within the Godhead; God, God, and Holy Spirit.

Before Christ came, God spoke to God and said let us make man. Taking the understanding that within the Godhead there are three, the pattern of Man is exactly the same. Within Man, there are many, just like within the Godhead there are three.

The two in the Godhead made provisions to save man, which included the third, the Holy Spirit. One God decided to come to earth to become the Son to save man while the other God received him as His Son.
Psalms 45:7 KJV
Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Jesus became the Son of God only when he was born of God through the Holy Ghost and a virgin. Before Jesus was crucified, having stepped down from His position as God in Heaven, He prayed to God Who is now His Father to be restored to the glory He once had. This verse proves this,
John 17:5 KJV
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

This is Jesus titles;
Isaiah 9:6 KJV
“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

These titles belong to Jesus because He is God, has always been God, has always been One of Three in the Godhead.

We can only understand Man and how within the creation, there are many men. Same as within the animal world patterned after heaven; within the animal kingdom, there are many, patterned after God within the Godhead, there are Three!

Understanding this can help people see why Jesus is God and He is the Son at the same time.
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the myth of flat earth debunked again

Well on a level earth flatness means just that - Flat.

Yet, on a flat earth, we wouldn't have examples of the photos above. We should be able to see right to end of the road or to the end of the line of powerlines. But we don't.

Ergo, no flat earth.
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the myth of flat earth debunked again

On a sphere, 'flatness' means being the same distance from the center. A road that climbs up a hill gets further away from the center.

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Well on a level earth flatness means just that - Flat.
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Yes, all 140,600,000 of them. Think on ..........
But you put a link to that forum in answer to my post where I said that you hadn't given any evidence for your statement that COVID was nothing more than flu. Are you saying that 140,600,000 people or 140,600,000 posts on that forum are all claiming that COVID was no more than flu?
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The Reality of Free Will

I think the fact that some can lead more virtuous lives than others displays that the extent of our free will is within our control. There is no need of any other "proof". We limit ourselves.
Surely you don't believe that we are free to choose to live sinless lives. . .

Keeping in mind that "free will"is a notion of man no where stated in Scripture.
And man defines this notion as "the power to make all moral choices, without external force or constraint."

What is stated in Scripture is the slavery to sin (Jn 8:34) of the unregenerate as the result of the fall,
as well as the sin of the believer (1 Jn 1:8-10).

Scripture presents no free will. . .i.e., able to choose to live sinlessly (Ro 3:23).
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"Don't Give up the Ship"

I mentioned this earlier, but what a lot of people don't realize is that Germany had already agreed in the Geneva Conventions that actions such as those personnel committed would be considered crimes under German law. They were convicted for actions that were crimes under their own government.

That would be similar to a US soldier today--such as William Calley--committing crimes that the US government had already passed as law by the US, which was the case for Calley.
What about the enlisted men who followed Calley's orders?
The point I'm making: These men were convicted for actions that were already specified as criminal in their national legal codes. These men did not have to make any philosophical judgements about their actions.
I don't think that philosophical judgements are being called for and that for most soldiers the problem does not even arise, but it might, and it puts the soldiers themselves in a difficult position. It's not merely a "philosophical position" that a National Guard soldier should not shoot his own unarmed fellow citizens, even they they have gotten away with it in the past.
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This is the right thread if you want to talk about the Covid - 19 vaccines;

And? I don’t do conspiracy theories. If I want to know about vaccines I go to a scholarly publication that has scientific evidence not to someone’s opinion.
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Six Democrats urge military members to 'refuse illegal orders' in viral video; Hegseth responds

The standard is patently illegal. I would suggest that an example would be to fire on peaceful protestors. You’d hope this is impossible, but there are reasons for concern. https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/13/us/protests-legal-illegal-constitution-trump The most plausible situation would be an ongoing onecwhere lawyets didnt review it. Probably the Secretary of Defense or some layer of officer would not pass it on, but I’m less confident of that now than in Trump’s first term.
Trump’s defenders acknowledge it’s not entirely clear how he intends to define “illegal protest.” And the White House has not responded to CNN’s requests for specifics on what protests it would classify as illegal.

So, let's see if Trump's lawyers can come up with a novel way to designate peaceful protests as illegal.

And let's see if they come up with a novel way to order the military to prevent those "illegal protests."

And in the meantime, let's see if our brave and bold elected members of Congress take any actions to prevent that from happening in the first place so that it doesn't have to rest on the moral courage of some Generation Z National Guard corporal.
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Disneyland 'MAGA Invasion' Organizers Reveal Plans to 'Trigger' Guests and ‘Make Disney Great Again’

"PLEASE NO FLAGS IN THE PARKS"

A Jehovah's Witness friend of mine told me God hates flags. A Westboro Baptist Church friend of mine told me something grammatically similar.
Good thing they’re not going to Magic Mountain then.
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Here read this thread, here is all the evidence you'll ever need.

That link just takes me to another discussion forum. The posts there are the members' opinions, not evidence. I didn't see any evidence there that even mentioned what you claimed, that Covid is nothing more than flu.
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And? So you have 140,600,000 opinions. Why don’t you go to a scholarly source Instead?

This is the right thread if you want to talk about the Covid - 19 vaccines;

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Six Democrats urge military members to 'refuse illegal orders' in viral video; Hegseth responds

Let me make a general statement here about military law:

Military justice is not philosophical. Military justice is about control of military forces. That's why things that are not crimes in the civilian community are crimes in the military. If philosophical justice happens in military law, that's merely coincidental.
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Disneyland 'MAGA Invasion' Organizers Reveal Plans to 'Trigger' Guests and ‘Make Disney Great Again’

"PLEASE NO FLAGS IN THE PARKS"

A Jehovah's Witness friend of mine told me God hates flags. A Westboro Baptist Church friend of mine told me something grammatically similar.
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