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Clare73 · 2025-11-21T15:43:48-0600

RDKirk said:
Romans 7:7–11 is the classic passage where Paul identifies the dynamic that the giving of a law creates an occasion for sinful desire. To put it another way, the command itself provokes the impulse to violate it.
Sin as a reality precedes knowledge. Wrong actions are objectively wrong, even if the person does not yet know.
Moral responsibility begins with knowledge. Once awareness arrives, the person is accountable for the wrongdoing. This principle appears dozens of times in Scripture.
Legal guilt is tied to command + knowledge. The command creates the standard. Knowledge triggers accountability. Before knowledge, there is sin but not accountability.

Before existence of command, there is no sin of which to be guilty. There was no command between Adam and Moses.

'Where there is no law, there is no transgression." (Ro 4:15)

essentialsaltes · 2025-11-21T15:41:58-0600

Trump built a winning coalition. White nationalists will destroy it.

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'Political suicide': Pro-Trump commentator warns MAGA's 'overt racists' will destroy GOP

In a Thursday column, Thiessen laid out how Republicans were able to secure both a popular vote and Electoral College majority in 2024 for the first time in two decades thanks to making inroads with Black and Hispanic voters. He argued, however, that the GOP's activist base includes "morally reprehensible" people like neo-Nazi podcaster Nick Fuentes, whose growing influence could turn into "political suicide for the right."

According to Thiessen, (a MAGA conservative who recently advocated for President Donald Trump to win the Nobel Peace Prize) Trump’s 2024 voting coalition was "significantly more racially and ethnically diverse than it had been in 2020 or 2016," and he had increased his vote share "almost every key demographic."

However, Thiessen warned that gains are now in jeopardy due to Fuentes' increasingly prominent role in Republican politics. Fuentes – who is the at the heart of the ideological civil war currently consuming the influential conservative Heritage Foundation think tank — is a known Holocaust denier who regularly demeans racial minorities and has called for the "death penalty" against Jewish people and practitioners of all non-Christian faiths.

rambot · 2025-11-21T15:39:35-0600

JimR-OCDS said:
The cops have to protect the public and usually get involved with a mentally sick person first.

That's my point. Cops don't always HAVE TO be involved with a "mentally sick" person first.

JimR-OCDS said:
After arrest is made, then
the person can be handed over to professionals to determine if they are truly mentally ill or not.

You may be surprised to learn that just because someone is having a psychotic episode does not mean they will be arrested.

JimR-OCDS said:
Telling cops to handle it differently comes from people who know nothing about stopping a violent crime or
arresting a person. This was proven in the George Floyd case where a cop just doing his job was convicted and
has been stabbed in prison by inmates who have a hatred for cops.

The bitter irony of this is off the chart. To call Floyd's arrest "de-regure" is not offensive so much as stupid. There has been no indication from any police body that having his knee on his neck was necessary. The mere fact that you are totally unaware of the rules of engagement around force for police officers is clear that you have no idea what you're arguing, talking about, or even viewing on TV.

If you're not going to address my point and just keep repeating what you've already said you're not a part of a "discussion".

FAITH-IN-HIM · 2025-11-21T15:39:28-0600

rjs330 said:
Why would you have to lie? If you self deport you are allowed to apply to come back and are eligible to do so.

Nearly all immigration and tourist visa forms ask if you've ever visited the US; if so, you must provide your arrival and departure dates. Documentation proving arrival and departure dates must be provided for embassy verification.

If you immigrated to the US in the past 50 years, you should know these basic questions.

rambot · 2025-11-21T15:36:14-0600

I like the idea that empathy is bad (well, I think it's funny because the meaning has been twisted so that if you show kindness to sinners, you are bad).

Because I think for certain people, any time they have to consider anyone but themselves they are put upon.

The mere tolerance of their existance is ALMOST enough to break them. And heaven forbid we introduce their existance to children. A grade 3 kid reading a story about a girl with lesbian moms? A story about how a young black girl can't just go to any hair shop to get a hair cut?

Why should my summer child have to be confronted with such inappropriate book learnin!?

rjs330 · 2025-11-21T15:35:54-0600

FAITH-IN-HIM said:
So, your compassionate Christian advise to undocumented immigrant ; self-deport, go back to your native land ( make sure US government doesn't know) , apply for immigration, lie on the immigration forum, and come back. Did I get that correctly?

Why would you have to lie? If you self deport you are allowed to apply to come back and are eligible to do so.

childeye 2 · 2025-11-21T15:34:25-0600

CoreyD said:
It's all up to us, yes. You are right on that point.
We all have the choice to do, or not to do... As you repeatedly quoted... Deuteronomy 30:19
Joshua, who succeeded Moses, told the people, "if it is unpleasing in your sight to serve the LORD, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve... As for me and my house[hold], we will serve the LORD!” Joshua 24:15
Pretty simple and straightforward. No one is forced, but freely, and willingly make a decision.

Joshua’s Stipulation

In Joshua 24:15, Joshua says: “If it seems evil to you to serve the LORD, choose this day whom you will serve…”
Notice the stipulation: the “choice” only exists for those who think serving God is evil.
For Joshua himself, there is no choice — “As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.”
This means the “choice” is not a neutral free will option, but a testimony of heart orientation.
- Those who see God as wicked presume they have alternatives.
- Those who love God see no alternative — serving Him is the only reality.

This is why the term "will" has to be desire/intent and NOT the ability to choose in the moral/immoral paradigm of good/evil.

rambot · 2025-11-21T15:27:42-0600

Vambram said:
Uncovered docs show top teachers union guiding gender transitions, bashing conservatives: 'Insane asylum'

Defending Education obtained documents showing one of the nation's top teachers unions training members on far-left gender identity postures while criticizing conservatives.

www.foxnews.com

The progressive left wing liberals really do want to indoctrinate your children against what parents believe.

PROVE to me you understood this article.

JimR-OCDS · 2025-11-21T15:27:02-0600

rambot said:
Do you honestly think that is what I'm endorsing? Come on. I can't drag you along.

I'm saying that there ARE people who can do lower level interventions MUCH BETTER THAN COPS. Cops require a lot of training and descalation truly, is not a strong point. It, infact, is a skill set that can run counter to the legal freedoms that cops have. If cops "Get lazy" the first thing to do is de-escalation.

Social workers AND psychologists can do SOME things better than cops: Don't you agree with that?

YES cops will be needed. YES cops still should have the ability to be lethal. YES there are times when cops are mandatory.

The cops have to protect the public and usually get involved with a mentally sick person first. After arrest is made, then
the person can be handed over to professionals to determine if they are truly mentally ill or not.

Telling cops to handle it differently comes from people who know nothing about stopping a violent crime or
arresting a person. This was proven in the George Floyd case where a cop just doing his job was convicted and
has been stabbed in prison by inmates who have a hatred for cops.

childeye 2 · 2025-11-21T15:26:59-0600

Clare73 said:
That "capacity" is the result of the fall.

There will be no sin in the new heavens and new earth, which will be the home of righteousness.

I just wanted to make that clear in case others might misunderstand you.

Spiritual Jew · 2025-11-21T15:26:33-0600

Fisherking said:
I have been doing this 40 years,

Which proves that people can be wrong for at least 40 years.

Fisherking said:
I understand the difference between the holy spirts voice and Satan's lies.

Doesn't seem like it to me.

Fisherking said:
Anytime I see people who can not understand God's SIMPLE TIMING PATTERNS, I get leery. Not understanding these deeper truths leads people down wrong paths, and then they teach others these same errors. Yet these types refuse to listen to those of us who present the facts, its always the message board warriors or the Mormon/JW types that go down these roads.

No matter how its presented, even when it overcomes their own take on things, they jut forge ahead, eyes closed, these types can't see because they chose not to see. As per anything secret, its only secret TO YOU GUYS. God writes in ways the average joe CAN NOT SEE on purpose. Jesus stated he spoke in parables so the world hearing they would not hear and seeing would not see. So, why didn't Israel understand the Old Testament Bible that foretold Jesus' coming as a sacrifice? Because they did not WANT TO SEE IT !! Its in there, but in God's own way He forces us to dig these truths out, NOTICE, nowhere does it say on Dec. 25 (just an example we do not know what day he was born on) year 03 at 7 AM that Yeshua will be born. WHY? According to you guys that is how God must write things down, same excuse the Pharisees and Nicodemus gave. The Old Man in the temple saw baby Jesus and he knew but HOW? The wise men knew. The scripture says Yeshua will be born in Bethlehem, it says "My son" will come out of Egypt, how can both be true? Did God confused the Pharisees on purpose? No, that is how He writes, you call it "SECRET" but its not, you just refuse to hear these factoids because God refuses IT spell it out in a manner you think He should. Psstt, He wants you to dig it out, and you are too busy locked into your own understanding, just as the Pharisees were, MOST PEOPLE ARE, so Nicodemus asks how can a man be born again? Which he of course refused to believe.

Blah blah blah. It's quite telling that you just ramble on and on without ever making a meaningful point that applies to anyone here.

Fisherking said:
Its not even hard, to those who will open their minds and investigate all of the pertinent facts. Revelation is hard, the Simple Pre Trib. Rapture is not, that is easy stuff, their can be no other timing, period, nothing else even remotely fits.

LOL. Yeah, Jesus saying that the elect will be gathered AFTER the tribulation of those days (Matt 24:29-31, Mark 13:24-27) doesn't even remotely fit. Okay then.... LOL.

Fisherking said:
That is NOT CORRECT, the After THIS is speaking about the Church Age. The THINGS WHICH YOU HAVE SEEN is talking about the Supernatural Glory of Jesus' Eternal Godhead and Splendor. The THINGS WHCH ARE can only mean the Church Age. The Hereafter can only mean after he Church Age. You denying these facts will not change these facts brother. We know when the transition happens because we see it happen in real time in Rev. 4:1

Total nonsense. The church is referenced several times after that.

Revelation 12:17 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring—those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus.

Who else but the church are "those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus."?

Revelation 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Who else but the church are "the saints"?

Romans 1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Corinthians 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both their's and our's:

Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. 13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

Who else but those in the church are "they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."? Who else are "in the Lord" except for the church?

Hentenza · 2025-11-21T15:25:44-0600

SabbathBlessings said:
Regarding Mark7:19 this is what was in the original transcripts

καθαρίζων πάντα τὰ βρώματα
Katharizōn panta ta brōmata
Literally: "cleansing all foods"

The phrase modifies the digestion process, not food laws.

You kidding right? I thought I had heard it all. First you claim that it was an addition but when I point you to the codex Sinaiticus and you realize your error, you now invent some other excuse to continue trying to put the Mosaic law back on the Christian’s back. There is absolutely nothing in this verse about digestion. The food laws are gone just like the rest of the Mosaic law.

Secondly, you still have not posted a verse that shows that the Mosaic law was given to the gentiles.

rambot · 2025-11-21T15:25:36-0600

iluvatar5150 said:
Even lower than you think, piggy.

There's this one time, I didn't kick this homeless guy who was sleeping in the park?

Nobel Peace Prize PLEASE!!!

Clare73 · 2025-11-21T15:25:34-0600

fhansen said:
Right, they either never turned to Him to begin with, or they've turned back away from Him, failing to remain, returning to the flesh.

Those who fail to "remain," never really turned in the first place.
It was a false move.
They were never good soil.

fhansen said:
Those, however, who persevere to the end, producing the good fruit of overcoming sin and doing good, will prove themselves to have been good soil.

Yes, they will persevere to the end because they are good soil.

The persevering does not make the soil good.

The good soil makes the persevering.

keith99 · 2025-11-21T15:25:32-0600

Aryeh Jay said:
I hate ICE because it dilutes my rum.

But that is a benefit if you start with cask proof rum! (Though it seems cask strength is hard to find in everything except Scotch).

FAITH-IN-HIM · 2025-11-21T15:24:15-0600

rjs330 said:
Self deporting allows you to return. The other option is to just leave. If you snuck in you can get back out. If the government does not know you and does not know if you are an illegal you can leave. Then you can apply to get in.

What you are supporting is "hey, if they get in and get away with it, then they can stay." Its encouraging the attempt. Which is what rhe Democrats always have done. Which Biden allowed and encouraged. Even Reagan who supported giving illegals a pathway did not do so just because. He did it based upon promises by the Democrats which never were followed through on.

So yes they can leave on their own by a couple of means and still return. Legally. Right now we have exactly what you support. If you sneak in illegally and get away with it, you can stay. You might as well not have a border or immigration law with that kind of thinking.

So, your compassionate Christian advise to undocumented immigrant ; self-deport, go back to your native land ( make sure US government doesn't know) , apply for immigration, lie on the immigration forum, and come back. Did I get that correctly?

RocksInMyHead · 2025-11-21T15:21:17-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Operation SS for short.

Uhhh...

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