My understanding is that the survivors were trying to access another vessel. But as in any military or police operation, munitions firing is carried out to ensure complete safety. I.e. it's not a quota of shots & you're done.

Praying for an end to this practice worldwide and for all post abortive women!

That’s unfortunate. Thanks for sharing.

rjs330 said:

If the OP is true I am totally opposed to the lowering of standards. There were other police agencies that did that because they couldn't get officers and it didn't go well. So, no, not a fan of doing this in any LE agency.

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I agree.

Mark Quayle said:

Then you are saying that God is not omniscient which also means he is not omnipotent. That is not God. Also, your thinking demonstrates the notion that God is subject to time, and whatever other things you consider 'reality'. In your thinking, God is not the 'inventor' of time and reality.

All things begin with God. Apart from him, there was nothing—no principles, no fact, no reality— until he created. All other things depend on and logically descend from his creating.

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What scripture in your mind proves that he is either of those things? FutureAndAHope provided a scripture. Maybe only one, but there are others. In addition to Genesis 6:6, I would also add:

1 Samuel 15:35
Jeremiah 3:6,7

Of course, there are many that support your viewpoint as well:

Isaiah 44:6
Isaiah 48:12
Revelation 1:8
Revelation 21:6
Revelation 22:13

Whether or not God invented time is something neither of us can prove or disprove. Yes, we can infer from creation that God created "our" reality, but there is nothing that tells us what is in God's reality.

Mark Quayle said:

Can you prove that man has freewill? It seems to be one of the foundations of your theory.

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Can you prove that man does not have free will? Atheists believe that all of reality and our actions is a mere result of billions (or more) of variables that are the almost infinite calculations of every particle in the universe. How would that be any different than having a God that does not give mankind free will? And how do you have free will when God knows what you will do in every second of your life from the time you are created?

If man does not have free will, then all sin and evil (and good as well) is caused by God. That is the logical end result from his creation if God chose to know what our choices would be. Why warn Adam and Eve, if God knew they were going to take the fruit anyway? Why does God question them afterwards? He obviously knew at this point that they took the fruit, but maybe he didn't know if they would have remorse, or blame each other as the text states. Their punishment was only stated after their response, and prophecies in the Bible only began after man sinned.

Why are there so many places in the Bible where Israel, Judah, a specific king or prophet is given a choice? Why is Noah in 2 Peter 2:5 referred to as "a preacher of righteousness"? Why is he preaching at all if God knows already that they will reject him and everyone but Noah's family will die? Why do we as Christians preach, if only certain people are predestined to be called to God anyway?

Much of the Bible makes little sense without free will.

Valletta said:

Note too the following from the article:
"DHS says the suspect has an extensive criminal history that spans almost four decades, including an attempted murder charge in 1987, an armed robbery charge in 1991 and a charge of annoying or molesting a victim under 18 in 2007."

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Yikes! That’s very concerning!

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Apparently the Trump Administration is a firm believers that "THAT THE ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS!

The phrase "\"the end justifies the means\"" suggests that a goal or outcome is so important that any action, even an unethical one, is acceptable to achieve it.

It is a controversial principle, often used to justify morally ambiguous actions, but it raises ethical questions because harmful methods can lead to negative consequences regardless of the initial goal.

The phrase is a paraphrase associated with the philosopher NICCOLO MACHIAVELLI, who argued that a ruler must be willing to do whatever is necessary to maintain power.

ethical - morally ambiguous - harmful methods - raises ethical questions - negative consequences

Trump and Machiavelli could be twins!

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I am so tired.

Hentenza said:

Again, the problem is interpretation and reading into them.

I didn’t hide at all. If you read my posts then you know that I have addressed them ad naseum. Let’s go again. These are the two verses you posted to support your assertion that the law have been given to every one. I even copied them from your post.

Ex. 12: 49 One law shall be to him that ishomeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Lev. 19: 34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you"shall be unto you as one born among you", and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

1. Where is these two verses does it say that the law was given to everyone?

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One law "shall be to him" that is homeborn, and "unto" the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Remember, There is only One God. And HE doesn't make you or any human respect Him. It is a choice God gives to men. God gave these people a choice to partake in His Salvation plan for mankind, to partake of the most Holy Passover. Not only Abraham's children, but any Egyptian who would also chose to deny themselves and their ancient religious traditions, and place their Faith to the God of Abraham. Because as God's Law states, Israelites were strangers in Egypt, no different than the Egyptians. And God Chose the Israelites, not because of anything they did, but as this One True God tells you, "Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

37 And the children of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about six hundred thousand on foot that were men, beside children. 38 And a "mixed multitude" went up also with them; and flocks, and herds, even very much cattle.

These were Egyptians/Gentiles/strangers who chose to sojourn with the Children of Israel, as God accepts anyone who would join themselves to Him, as you have been shown by others. And HE made sure that the Israelites were given God's Law that stipulates this Command from God for the Non-Jew.

Lev. 19: 34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you "shall be "unto you" as one born among you", and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

This is the 2nd Greatest Commandment in the Law. It also confirms Paul's teaching that a Jew is not one outwardly, or based on DNA, a Jews is one inwardly, and anyone who honored God with obedience from the heart, is accepted of Him, and to be treated as a Child of Abraham and heirs to the promises..

Jesus also confirms this when HE says, Abraham's Children are those who do the "Works" of Abraham". And as it is also written, God is not a respecter of persons, or a God that judges a man by the DNA he was born with.

You are free to worship any God you want, just as both Israel and the Egyptians and Eve for that matter, were free to refuse to submit to this God, and choose instead to listen to the "other" voices which exist in the world God placed us in. He will not force you to respect Him, and I can't make you hear His Words.

But your stated religious philosophy, "The God that I “profess” never gave the law to the gentiles.", is not the same God that Inspired the Holy Scriptures, as anyone who studies them can see that God" Law is for anyone who chooses to "Join themselves" to Him.

My hope is that you will realize that the Exodus story was Inspired by the One True God, so that you might hear Him, and stop lusting after the same disobedience they lusted after. But this is your choice, and it must be made from the heart, according to what is written.

If we can't unite with God on this one point, there is no use in continuing.

iluvatar5150 said:

"Why does everybody keep calling us bigots?"

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I think many people are misinformed on Islam. Not on purpose. Most Muslims are peaceful people.

Maria Billingsley said:

I agree. One only needs to read the opening verses in the book of Revelation to realize this book is talking about a future event in the first century. Jesus Christ of Nazareth confirms this event as well.

Revelation 1:1-3 (NKJV)
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants—things which must shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John, who bore witness to the word of God, and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, to all things that he saw. Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written in it; for the time is near.

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Do you think that is talking about the entire book consisting of things that would shortly take place? If so, then what do you make of this verse:

Revelation 1:19 Write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which will take place after this.

And how do you think the thousand years of Revelation 20 shortly took place exactly? And where are the new heavens and new earth where there would be no more death, crying, sorrow or pain? Why is the first heaven and first earth still here? Why hasn't Jesus returned yet if the book of Revelation is fulfilled?

Maria Billingsley said:

Matthew 16:28 (NKJV)
> “Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.”q
* Mark 9:1 (NKJV): "And He said to them, 'Assuredly, I say to you that there are some standing here who will not taste death till they see the kingdom of God present with power.'"
* Luke 9:27 (NKJV): "But I tell you truly, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the kingdom of God.”

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Continue reading after those verses. Jesus was referring to His transfiguration there where some of the disciples standing there (Peter, James and John) saw Jesus in all His glory and power to give them a foretaste or foreshadowing of His second coming.

Aryeh Jay said:

Since the government is back open, the House needs to start the impeachment process on these unelected bishops.

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LOL!

Always in His Presence said:

The order was to intercept and destroy a terrorist boat carrying drugs. First shot did not destroy the boat - the second shot did.

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What remained of the boat was not salvageable, not to mention the two survivors clinging to a capsized portion. What is the purpose of the second hit if not to make sure all on board were dead?

essentialsaltes said:

Investigators said earlier in the morning, Jovel set his Koreatown apartment on fire after receiving an eviction notice.

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Horrifying!

jacks said:

So the old saying "Finish your food because people are starving.”
Really doesn't make much sense.

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I think it is meant to appreciate the food one has? Not to waste it? Maybe?

durangodawood said:

Makes sense. I feel sorry for people who deny themselves like that. Those fun things like dancing, music, drinking are even sanctioned in the Bible. They seem to be venturing off on their own sad path here.

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I think LDS (not Christian based on CF standards) completely forbids drinking. I’ve known a few Baptists, Pentecostals, or other Evangelicals that might have a drink or two. Depends how strict they are? Maybe.

I don’t know anyone who is completely opposed to music and dancing, especially at weddings?