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eleos1954 · 2025-12-01T14:02:29-0600

CLEEB said:
There were saints before Pentecost, do some research. Grace is older than the carnal nation of Israel. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, King David , Able, Enoch, Noah and all the prophets are part of the foundation of the church according to Paul.

Sainthood signifies a positional status in Christ—being set apart by God for His special use and purpose. It does not imply sinless perfection, but a calling to live a life that reflects God's moral purity.

Just to clarify ...

The term "saints" in the New Testament epistles is used by Paul to address living members of the church (e.g., in Rome, Corinth, and Philippi), not just deceased individuals who have been canonized by a church.

BCP1928 · 2025-12-01T14:01:23-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
But wouldn't the same negative things impact any school if the roles were somewhat reversed?

Even if it wasn't a governor handpicking replacements for certain positions, and they were getting qualified people in there to teach and administer everything, but replacing the liberal bias with a conservative one.

A) wouldn't any school have that challenge with brand new professors coming in?
B) wouldn't students who specifically went to a college for the political leaning/culture, be more inclined to bail if all of their professors got replaced by professors with the opposing ideology?

While I think one could make a case that some mismanagement was definitely occurring here (if they're spending that much more and getting much worse results), people are trying to make it seem as if the removal of some of that stuff (that you say only makes up 5% of content) is somehow responsible for the decline. (As if a school's success is contingent upon gender studies and queer poetry courses)

No, it's not specific courses or even specific professors. just a side effect of trying to promote conservative Christian cultural purity.

MarcusGregor · 2025-12-01T13:59:27-0600

MarcusGregor said:
One can hope.

Thing is I don't really even have that much of a problem with building the ballroom. It's just the way he's gone about it is just very, very wrong. No historical analysis. price keeps going up. Tore down a third of the existing White House with no oversight. Disbanded the committee that would do all that. It's just all wrong. If he had gone through the proper channels and procedures I might still think it unnecessary and vain, but whatevs. Might be useful in the future. But he's doing all this so he can have it built and get to use before he gets out of office and\or money laundering\grifting purposes.

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2025-12-01T13:58:35-0600

RainySunflower said:
That is a fair question ... I think that secret societies really hate Bible, so they try to make it look fake / diss-miss some parts of it ?

But my theory is that you-know-who is real, like real-living-"human" , and he tries to make teachings of God look fake.

I don't have 100% right answer on this one, .. But it's a really good question.

And those answers are... kind of rubbish, I will not lie.

Just saying "secret societies really hate the Bible" is a good non-answer for everything, and the whole Devil doing it to for some way to make God look fake runs into the problem that it could easily be flipped; that the Devil created and propagates the Flat Earth idea to make God look fake.

Like... there is really no reason to take anything about Flat Earth seriously, either as actual belief or a conspiracy theory... because it just makes no sense because it cannot answer my question: who benefits from it? Answer: no-one.

eleos1954 · 2025-12-01T13:57:50-0600

CLEEB said:
Gentiles were grafted into the olive tree to replace the unbelieving Israelites. James wrote to the 12 tribes scattered abroad. The elect are constantly called the church by Jesus and the Apostles. The elect in Revelation 7 & 14 is the church.

the elect in Revelation 7 and 14 represent the church, specifically the end-time "remnant church" that remains faithful to God and keeps His commandments during the final days

Say it aint so · 2025-12-01T13:56:21-0600

RDKirk said:
First, did such a thing even happen? I want to see named testimonies.

Second, if it did happen, did Hegseth actually give such an order? I don't believe for a moment that Pentagon lawyers would let "Kill everybody" go down the chain.

Hegseth: Fired military lawyers were potential ‘roadblocks’ to Trump orders

Having Pentagon Lawyers clearing their throats and saying those actions are illegal is the ultimate roadblock.

iluvatar5150 · 2025-12-01T13:55:27-0600

Landon Caeli said:
It's okay. Everytime you guys derail one of my threads, I'll just create another one.

I asked what the topic was. I was sincere in asking. I generally try to be pretty accomodating when folks chide me to get back on topic.

So I ask again: what is the topic?

MarcusGregor · 2025-12-01T13:54:53-0600

Hans Blaster said:
Oh good, then we won't have to demolish it later. A poorly inspected water pipe will form a sink hole and just drag it into the earth.

One can hope.

eleos1954 · 2025-12-01T13:54:13-0600

CLEEB said:
You are correct. T

The spirit of GOD in true Christians enables in us a change of nature, we partake of the divine nature that doesn’t need to be commanded but is motivated by GODS love in us. Love fulfills law. The Ten Commandments will pass away when heaven and Earth pass away, Revelation 21:1 the Ten Commandments are not for a converted righteous man but for carnal unconverted sinners . Jesus paid the penalty for our breaking the Ten Commandments, once , he will not die for you again if you go back to them again.

Nope ... God's laws are eternal .... what is sin? Transgression of the law ... He died to uphold the law and make it honorable ... not get rid of it.

We will ALL be judged by the law

There was law in heaven ... satan and the fallen angels were cast out of heaven because they violated the law.

The law leads us to Christ and after receiving Him as Lord and Savior then the Holy Spirit helps us overcome sin.

There is nothing wrong with God's laws .... there is something wrong with us and one day we will be completely changed

The first resurrection is the moment of change: It's at this point that the "corruptible" becomes "incorruptible" and the "mortal" becomes "immortal".
Sinless perfection is a future state: It is a promise to be fully realized in the resurrection, not a state achieved by believers while still living in a mortal body.

Psalm 119:160: "All your words are true; all your righteous laws are eternal". This verse is frequently cited to support the perpetual nature of God's laws.

Psalm 111:7-8: "The works of His hands are verity and judgment; all His commandments are sure. They stand fast for ever and ever".
Psalm 119:44: "So shall I keep Your law continually, forever and ever".
Psalm 119:89: "Your eternal word, O LORD, stands firm in heaven".

NONE are righteous ... no not one.

Oompa Loompa · 2025-12-01T13:53:56-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
Are we noticing any themes or patterns here?

Is it that they are all Muslim countries? Nope. India isn't. Perhaps the patern isnt the country of origin, but the people.

Akita Suggagaki · 2025-12-01T13:53:53-0600

Postvieww said:
Can you provide the audio of the murdered woman threatening to murder anyone? If not I stand by my statement. You do realize there were planted agitators in that crowd! Jan 6 was not what we were told by the liberal media or the sham Jan 6 committee.

Then what was it that can be reconciled with all the pictures and videos?

RainySunflower · 2025-12-01T13:53:49-0600

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
Why exactly hide the existence of a Flat Earth in the first place? Like... who does it benefit, and how and why?

That is a fair question ... I think that secret societies really hate Bible, so they try to make it look fake / diss-miss some parts of it ?

But my theory is that you-know-who is real, like real-living-"human" , and he tries to make teachings of God look fake.

I don't have 100% right answer on this one, .. But it's a really good question.

BCP1928 · 2025-12-01T13:51:41-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
Not being 100% restricted to a certain ideology isn't the same thing as not being related to something about that ideology.

AI disclaimer (with sources linked, since it saves me some typing)

Countries with Highest Documented Rates:

1. Pakistan - Consistently reports around 1,000 cases annually NCBI, with the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan reporting 1,100 cases in 2015 Sage Journals. Pakistan is widely believed to have the highest absolute numbers globally.

2. India - Records approximately 1,000 honor killings per year Hbv-awareness, with nearly one-third of worldwide honor killings occurring in India and Pakistan combined Asu.

3. Iran - Reported 8,000 honor killings between 2010 and 2014 Sage Journals, with academic estimates citing 375-450 such killings occurring annually GOV.UK.

4. Turkey - The Council of Europe estimated over 200 women were murdered in honor killings in 2007 Wikipedia, with reports of one honor killing per week in Istanbul alone.

5. Syria - Some estimates suggest more than 200 honor killings occur annually Wikipedia, with increases reported during the civil war.

6. Jordan - An average of 23 women are killed annually for honor, representing approximately 30% of total murders Sage Journals.

7. Iraq/Iraqi Kurdistan - The Free Women's Organization of Kurdistan reported 6,082 women killed or forced to commit suicide in 2015 Wikipedia, with many attributed to honor-related violence.

8. Afghanistan - 243 cases were registered between March 2011 and April 2013 according to the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission NCBI.

9. Yemen - 400 women were victims of honor killings in 1997 NCBI.

10. Egypt - 52 cases were reported in 1997 NCBI.

Are we noticing any themes or patterns here?

If we were looking at the aspects surrounding negative attitudes toward contraception access, comprehensive sex ed, or stem cell research in the US...

Me being able to find a relatively tiny handful of liberal non-Christians who oppose those things wouldn't negate the reality that those attitudes are predominately found within (and outgrowths of) conservative Christian culture.

That would be a better analogy if there were more than a tiny handful, but I get your point.

The question is, are Muslim immigrants coming here to impose that aspect their culture on us or to escape it?

Why must we assume the former?

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2025-12-01T13:51:12-0600

Why exactly hide the existence of a Flat Earth in the first place? Like... who does it benefit, and how and why?

Dave... · 2025-12-01T13:50:23-0600

Dan Perez said:
And what do. you mean , BUT it still. HAD actually happen. before. it apples. ??

Read Rom 9:11. and what do you say. it MEANS ??

dan p

It means that It was only a promise until it actually happened. Physical Israel is a OT type of spiritual Israel. Esau is physical Israel. Jacob is spiritual Israel. Spiritual Israel is elect "in Christ" only. All those in spiritual Israel are "in Christ" as a result of faith and then they become elect with Jesus. Jesus is the One elect. We become elect when we are placed in Him, per Eph. 1:1-14. We are placed in Him when we receive the Holy Spirit indwelling as a result of faith always (Eph. 1:13-14). With the Holy Spirit indwelling we are In Christ, without the indwelling we are not in Christ (Romans 8:9-10). Paul said "we" are the first fruits of the Spirit, meaning the firstfruits of the indwelling (Romans 8:23), the baptism with the Holy Spirit Jesus promised when He, Jesus was lifted up, the promise of the Father, the Holy Spirit, which is part of the promises that those in Hebrews died having not received. OT believers were not in Christ, thus they were not elect except by promise until Pentecost, when they were placed into Christ. All they had was a promise that was to come. They were all still in Adam, yet God knew them already. All that the Father gives me I shall not lose one of them. The Sheep. This is who Romans 8:29 is speaking of. These were already known by God, He predestined them to be conformed to the image of His Son (starts when places in Him), those He called with the Gospel message.... None had yet ascended until the cross because they were not yet "in Christ" and born again (John 3:1-14).

Say it aint so · 2025-12-01T13:49:24-0600

Appeals court disqualifies Alina Habba as U.S. attorney for New Jersey

Down goes the Parking Lot Attorney.

Nithavela · 2025-12-01T13:47:11-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
Are we noticing any themes or patterns here?

The countries are all in this region of the world, which points to overarching cultural reasons instead of religion. North africa and large parts of southeast asia are majority muslim, but they are not on that list.

For example, Indonesia is VERY muslim. 87% of the population are muslims. If you go by total population, it's the country with the most muslims. And yet they have no culture of honor killings, with the first recorded honor killing in 2020.

Indonesia Records Its First Honor Killing

A schoolgirl was reportedly hacked to death after admitting to dating

thediplomat.com

Tom D · 2025-12-01T13:43:04-0600

I believe it's a symbol of Our Lady, who was a descendant of people with original sin, but was free from origin sin herself.

Multifavs · 2025-12-01T13:41:38-0600

Happy Advent! Happy December! I'm going to be busy decorating for Christmas today!

FAITH-IN-HIM · 2025-12-01T13:40:40-0600

RDKirk said:
First, did such a thing even happen? I want to see named testimonies.

Second, if it did happen, did Hegseth actually give such an order? I don't believe for a moment that Pentagon lawyers would let "Kill everybody" go down the chain. OTOH, Hegseth loves to put everyone on chat during military operations, so he could have said that directly to the operational unit. Or the order may have been something ambiguous like, "It's not required to take prisoners," and someone lower down interpreted that as "kill everybody."

But, if it did happen, everyone in the operational unit (I've heard it was a SEAL team) has had Law of Armed Conflict training, so every individual knew such a thing was illegal. What does that mean?

Well, in the Vietnam case of Lt William Calley, the enlisted troops were not convicted of war crimes. Investigation showed that Calley (as an officer) had gotten training in the Geneva Conventions...but the enlisted troops had not gotten specific training. In the military, ignorance of the law is a positive defense. So, in the 70s, the military made absolutely certain nobody in uniform could any longer claim ignorance, hence the creation of annual Law of Armed Conflict training mandatory for everybody.

And the DoD is serious about that. In my last assignment, I was superintendent of the training facility for STRATCOM, a joint command. We trained all the services, and my general was dead on my butt every day until each individual was signed off on their LOAC training each year because the Pentagon was dead on her butt about it. I was in front of her desk every day handing her the numbers and names of those who hadn't taken it yet.

I say all that to point out that everyone in the operational unit knew it's illegal to strafe survivors in the water. What they know will be held against them.

If it actually happened.

Of course, Trump will probably pardon them anyway.

You are correct- it is prudent to await additional information before drawing conclusions, which is why I referred to it as an "alleged order." I recognize your deep respect for the military chain of command and trust that the system supports those who act with integrity. While I have not personally served, I value your perspective and share your hope that this trust is well placed.

As an American who believes in democracy, the rule of law, and our system of checks and balances, I have long believed in the resilience of our democratic institutions. However, recent years have presented significant challenges to this confidence. Over the past two decades, there have been instances within the executive, legislative, and judicial branches that suggest a willingness by some individuals to circumvent established protocols, thereby compromising the perceived strength and exemplary nature of our system. These frameworks are only as robust as those elected to maintain them; ultimately, their effectiveness depends on the honor and commitment of public officials.

The same standards apply within the military. Established procedures, defined chains of command, and legal oversight exist to guide conduct appropriately at every level. Nonetheless, these safeguards are effective only if leaders adhere to law and order. In light of developments across government branches, I have growing concerns about whether the U.S. military remains entirely protected from similar challenges.

essentialsaltes · 2025-12-01T13:40:30-0600

Valletta said:
"This stunt comes as our ICE officers are facing a more than 1000% increase in assaults against them, including vehicles being used as weapons towards them, and doxing campaigns targeting federal officers and their families."

There is no indication in the article that the Times includes "doxing campaigns targeting federal officers and their families."

Q: Is doxxing assault?
A: No.
Q: Have ICE begun disguising themselves?
A: Yes.

Oompa Loompa · 2025-12-01T13:38:14-0600

BCP1928 said:
No, it's what happens when there is no cultural enlightenment and enrichment.

So you agree with Trump about barring immigration unless the person can be a net benefit to society.

MarcusGregor · 2025-12-01T13:35:49-0600

So is the current administration, but what can you do?

Oompa Loompa · 2025-12-01T13:34:47-0600

rambot said:
I will guarantee that in not too much time, batteries and solar panels will be able to be recycled; even if the process may be long.

I just don't understand why you'd want to save money. As soon as you pay off a solar array on your house, it's all straight cash for you. And if you then sell it, the new owners get PURE benefit/

As soon as I pay it off, it will need to be replaced. But that is not the point. The point being that renewable energy often harms the environment elsewhere.

BCP1928 · 2025-12-01T13:34:44-0600

Servus said:
In other words not true and not gonna happen. So why bother to bring it up as if it was actually a thing?

Because it motivates partisan politics. Isn't that what myths are for?

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