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RandyPNW · 2025-11-20T01:56:19-0600

JohnB445 said:
this has worried me, do I need to be a Catholic to be saved, or a Protestant? Or does the denomination have nothing to do with it?

Denominations are just a variety of traditions that Christianity has assumed, due to the fact Christianity has penetrated different regions and different cultures. And sometimes Christianity is in decline and needs new movements to reinvigorate what has fallen.

So there are many denominations. Some denominations are in worse condition overall than others. But there may be good local churches in weak denominations. Or, there may be weak congregations in strong denominations.

Salvation is your relationship with Christ. Is his word in your heart, and are you following it day in and day out? Do you know what unconditional love is? Are you willing to maintain love in the face of attack? Are you willing to share the Gospel with those open to it?

Salvation is simply when Christ has "come into your heart," making you aware of your choice for him by the indwelling of his word within your conscience. You know you'r saved when your nature is being changed into the likeness of Christ, albeit imperfectly.

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2025-11-20T01:54:00-0600

AV1611VET said:
Yes, really.

You can't lock truth behind iron bars.

Nothing of what he's said ever is truthful, correct, accurate or right

7thKeeper · 2025-11-20T01:53:10-0600

BPPLEE said:
If there was something really bad about Trump in the files do you really think Maxwell's appeals would have stopped them from releasing them?

Yes, absolutely. Because if the files were released, that would essentially kill the case against Maxwell and let her walk free. Perhaps abiding by the law and procedures is a novel concept for you.

Strong in Him · 2025-11-20T01:51:09-0600

Apple Sky said:
As Antarctica encircles the earth like a ring.

Why do think they have the laurel leaves encircling the map on the UN logo ?

View attachment 373386

Nonsense.
Those leaves don't meet at the top. They are not "encircling" anything, and they are laurel leaves, not a ring of ice.

Apple Sky said:
A symbol of the Ouroboros snake which encircles the earth

More nonsense. The earth is encircled by a snake, now?

YOU know the earth is a globe, just as you know that Charles Duke walked on the moon.
You just won't admit it.

RandyPNW · 2025-11-20T01:51:02-0600

Colo Millz said:
Co-Sufferers (Imitatio Christi): Christians are called to participate in the suffering of Christ. Personal suffering is utilized as a means of purification (removing self-will and sin) and spiritual growth. By uniting one's own pain to the Passion, it ceases to be meaningless and becomes a source of grace for oneself and others.

Is this a Biblical understanding?

Yes. I just suffer knowing these things, that in this fallen world we have to suffer. And being Christians we suffer the rejection of the world around us. These things are extremely painful and difficult to accept. But accept it we must.

I think with me it's more resignation that ambition to suffer. I simply have to relinquish my will when God calls me to suffer whatever I have to suffer. I pray against it, perhaps, but I try to take my concerns to the Lord. Knowing God can relieve us of suffering and still wills that we suffer is one of the hardest things I experience in life.

But you're right. We have to surrender our will and let God have His way, without rebelling, complaining, or losing our spiritual composure. We aren't trying to achieve some superior level of spirituality--just maintain our spirituality and call to endure what God wills that we endure.

We should not prescribe what suffering anybody else has to suffer. We are all individuals. We should always let God speak first, before we judge what somebody else is going through. We can only judge sin--not circumstances.

Strong in Him · 2025-11-20T01:47:06-0600

Apple Sky said:
Very beautiful - But was it taken in Antarctica ?

Why shouldn't it have been?
Two people on this forum have said that it was; what evidence have you to say that it wasn't?

Apple Sky · 2025-11-20T01:45:00-0600

David Lamb said:
Why not?

As Antarctica encircles the earth like a ring.

Why do think they have the laurel leaves encircling the map on the UN logo ?

Ouroboros snake hi-res stock photography and images - Alamy

A symbol of the Ouroboros snake which encircles the earth

The Elite know the earth is flat but just wont admit it.

RandyPNW · 2025-11-20T01:43:10-0600

A Devil's Advocate said:
Disclaimer: This post is intended for those who follow the True God of the bible and not the lesser form of God commonly associated with Christianity (sarcasm intended).

Why the Disclaimer? You think the God of the Bible is to be separated from Christianity?

A Devil's Advocate said:
There is this popular belief that mankind messed up. We were given a test. Should we choose correctly, we would remain in a relationship with God, completely dependent on Him. But if we choose wrong, we would end up cast out from a relationship with Him and left to eventually die, unless God were to intervene. This test was made known through the two trees in the midst of the Garden; the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Of course, as we've all been made to understand, mankind messed up and made the wrong choice. This is absolutely ridiculous!

It is hardly ridiculous. Everything about the trees in the Garden was a test of loyalty with consequences. God also tested Israel in the wilderness with consequences.

A Devil's Advocate said:
Let's start with the fact that God is the creator of the very reality in which we exist. All existence comes from God. The very idea that God would create a life form, from the infinite possibilities of what He could create, that would be capable of messing up, if He did not want them to mess up, is absolute fantasy.

Not at all. Yes, God created all existence. And yes, God has infinite possibilities. But he did create the ability for angels and men both to "mess up." He did not want them to mess up due to His holiness. But He wanted them to be able to mess up because He wanted to test their loyalty, preferring their choices based upon free will.

A Devil's Advocate said:
If God did not want man to sin, man never would've sinned. When the serpent told Eve she would become like God, the serpent was speaking in reference to knowledge, not some form of godly power capable of messing up God's plan.

Yes, God allowed the serpent to offer Man the knowledge of disobedience to God's word. That is not "godly power," but rather, "ungodly power."

A Devil's Advocate said:
Also, the idea that God was testing man to see if he would remain loyal is just as ridiculous. In everything that God created, He said that it 'was all very good.' There was nothing God created that could possibly tempt man away from God.

Actually, what God allowed the serpent to offer Man in the Garden was precisely God's creation of circumstances that tested his loyalty. The creation was good. The choice to disobey by Man was not good. Having free will was good. The choice to use free will to rebel against God's word was not good.

A Devil's Advocate said:
By introducing the tree of knowledge, with the commandment not to eat from it, creates the very condition where disloyalty becomes possible. Meaning, God creates the very thing to cause disloyalty. This is illogical. If He did not want man to be tempted, He would not have created the potential for it.

False, God thought it good to give Man free will. He did not wish Man to use his free will to rebel against His word. But God thought it good to allow Man, in his free will, to rebel against His word if he so wished to do so. Who are we to say that this is illogical or absurd? It is precisely what happened!

A Devil's Advocate said:
It should also be understood that you cannot know the character/nature of God without evil.

That does not follow. I can know God as a good God without ever having sinned, just as the good angels who never sinned still know God is holy. They say so in the book of Revelation.

RileyG · 2025-11-20T01:26:53-0600

May God comfort those who mourn!

A2SG · 2025-11-20T01:18:03-0600

Servus said:
Maybe if you didn't usually misinterpret what I say and didn't add in what I didn't say, I'd have some hope of a proper discussion rather than the usual rabbit hole.

If I've misinterpreted or misunderstood your point, you've had more than enough opportunity to explain it better, or show me what I got wrong. Instead, you simply call my points strawmen and ignore them.

And since you've gone out of your way to miss my points, let me try to explain your point better, and see where we stand.

Your point, that even if Trump were framed, it wouldn't change our minds about him, misses one key, salient point: he wasn't framed. He did what he was accused of doing, and the evidence of that convinced a jury beyond a reasonable doubt. And that's not all. Trump has been accused of many other crimes and misdeeds, a good number of them proven in a court of law. Fraud, defamation, sexual assault, just to name a few, and there are others going back well before his entrance into politics. His life has been public long before he descended in that escalator.

So, your implied premise that our criticism of Trump comes from bias alone is incorrect. One can easily object to Trump based on Trump's actions, and his character as has been observed and reported on for decades. The 34 felony convictions is just the tip of the iceberg.

So, of course if someone came out and said Trump was framed, it wouldn't make a difference. A negative view of Trump doesn't come from that one single trial where he was proven guilty of 34 felonies, it comes from a much larger body of evidence of dubious and questionable behavior over the years, including a previous term as president. Add to that, the fact that the possibility of him being framed for those crimes is so monumentally unlikely, it's frankly laughable. That doesn't help your premise.

Trump being framed is about as likely as Trump singlehandedly curing cancer, another ridiculous scenario some have come up with to pretend that a justifiable and understandable objection to Donald Trump could not possibly come from the man himself, but must be due to an irrational bias. That's a false premise.

-- A2SG, the real difference between Trump detractors and Trump supporters is the former choose not to ignore reality, while the latter has to......

Apple Sky · 2025-11-20T01:16:37-0600

Delvianna said:
Same thing with Jehovah's Witnesses and their 2 class system. The people who think they are apart of the 144,000 just think they are.

This always makes me laugh when I hear this, as the 144,000 are;

These are the ones who have not been defiled with women, for they are virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever He goes. They have been redeemed from among men as first fruits to God and to the Lamb. And no lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless
Revelation 14:1-5

And must belong to the twelve tribes of Israel.

'Do not harm the land or sea or trees until we have sealed the foreheads of the servants of our God.' And I heard the number of those who were sealed, 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel: From the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed, from the tribe of Reuben 12,000, from the tribe of Gad 12,000, from the tribe of Asher 12,000, from the tribe of Naphtali 12,000, from the tribe of Manasseh 12,000, from the tribe of Simeon 12,000, from the tribe of Levi 12,000, from the tribe of Issachar 12,000, from the tribe of Zebulun 12,000, from the tribe of Joseph 12,000, from the tribe of Benjamin 12,000." (Revelation 7:1-8)

But no mention of the tribe of Dan, I wonder why this is ?

lucypevensie · 2025-11-20T01:14:11-0600

Air hockey

BPPLEE · 2025-11-20T01:13:11-0600

iluvatar5150 said:
No. My understanding is that he couldn't (or perhaps really really shouldn't) release them until Maxwell's appeals were finished, which didn't happen until this year.

If there was something really bad about Trump in the files do you really think Maxwell's appeals would have stopped them from releasing them?

lucypevensie · 2025-11-20T01:11:25-0600

Charlie’s grouchy grandma got nothing.

GRNDM

David Lamb · 2025-11-20T01:02:36-0600

d taylor said:
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God is life, there is no separating life and God. God did not exist and then one day decide to bring life into existence.

There is no such thing as origin of life, that is a science lie. Sadly that is something Bible believing creationist have adopted as a belief

I agree that God is alive, and so before He began to create, He was the only life. However He did create life "outside" of Himself when He created plants, animals and mankind. I understand that when Christians talk about the origin of life, they are talking of created life, not saying that God had a beginning.

David Lamb · 2025-11-20T00:51:17-0600

Apple Sky said:
Very beautiful - But was it taken in Antarctica ?

Why not? It, and hundreds like it, are to be found by a Google image search for "Aurora Australis". Also, there are people living in the South part of the earth who have seen Aurora Australis, whereas we in the North see Aurora Borealis.

Vambram · 2025-11-20T00:50:47-0600

Yarddog said:
It doesn't fit into the definition of sedition. It is the duty of the military to refuse to obey an illegal order. They take an oath to the Constitution, not to the President.

However, those Senators are very clearly implying that President Trump has issued or shall issue illegal orders to the military. I've been in the US military for more than 27 years and I have more trust in President Trump than any other President whom has been my Commander-in-Chief. President Trump has not, and he shall not issue any illegal orders to the military.

johansen · 2025-11-20T00:43:58-0600

Yarddog said:
Yeah, nurses work 16 hour days.

not the ones i know.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-20T00:42:33-0600

David Lamb said:
Try a Google image search for "Aurora Australis." You will find hundred of pictures of Aurora Australis, like this one: taken in the Antarctic:

View attachment 373383

Very beautiful - But was it taken in Antarctica ?

Truth7t7 · 2025-11-20T00:40:11-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Federal judge orders Arlington, Fort Worth [and a dozen other] ISDs to remove Ten Commandments displays
A federal judge on Tuesday ordered several Texas school districts to remove Ten Commandments displays from classrooms, issuing the ruling in a lawsuit brought by families who argue the postings violate the Constitution’s ban on government-endorsed religion.

The districts must remove the displays by Dec. 1, and the order will remain in effect while the case continues. This applies only to the districts named in the lawsuit, but the groups behind the case are urging all Texas school districts to avoid displaying the Ten Commandments.

The lawsuit was filed in September when some districts began putting up the posters after an August ruling [post #66] in a different case that called the law “plainly unconstitutional.” That earlier ruling temporarily blocked the law in nearly a dozen other districts across Texas’ largest metro areas. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, a vocal supporter of SB 10, has appealed that decision.

The liberals will be out in the cold, the "Ten Commandments" will win!

Mark Quayle · 2025-11-20T00:39:14-0600

Brother Del said:
Better yet, what does it matter what Calvin thinks about good works, and why spend anytime debating it?

Are we really that uninterested in the "weightier matters"?

I'm not a Calvinist, though they think much the same as I do. But what are these "weightier matters" you refer to?

Oh, and who is Calvin? I don't think of him as a Calvinist, lol. He just started the ball rolling.

Gene2memE · 2025-11-20T00:39:13-0600

This is disgraceful (changed earlier this month), but what else should have been expected with an anti-vaxxer in charge of HHS?

Autism and Vaccines

Answers to common questions about vaccine safety and autism.

www.cdc.gov

Looks to me like someone is going to get a lot of people killed. And, they don't care.

David Lamb · 2025-11-20T00:35:58-0600

Apple Sky said:
Does this really occur in the south pole ? How can it when Antarctica encircles the whole earth - 360° ?

Try a Google image search for "Aurora Australis." You will find hundred of pictures of Aurora Australis, like this one: taken in the Antarctic:

RabbiJames · 2025-11-20T00:32:54-0600

1 KINGS 1:1-31

This tells the sad story of a father who failed to discipline his sons, and old King David reaped the whirlwind. Adonijah (which means YHVH is my master), if it were so, He would have been in subjection to his father David, had the nerve to proclaim himself king, even before David died.

We can see that in family relationships, some sons and daughters have a healthy relationship with their parents, yet others rebel and chase after the things of the world. It starts with the parents. If Mom and Dad live according to God's WORD, and raise up their children with God's WORD, all they will see will be "God's WORD" being lived out in their parents. If all they see is godliness and god honoring and God fearing parents, will they not imitate what they see and hear? Mom and Dad must also prepare them for a world of "school and society" outside the home, where people do not adhere to the things of God. Preparing them is also part of loving them.

Maybe David messed up with Adoniyah, but he corrects the situation and names Solomon as the future king. This teaches us to be under authority willingly. The bridegroom has his bride under His authority and subjection, BUT NOT in a tyrannical way, not like a “dictatorship” but under a “love “relationship. Children are under the authority of their parents, and parents have the duty to love and correct their children in love, but also in loving discipline. Better for the parents to discipline their kids than the prison system.

A wife can be under subjection to the husband, and feel used, like an object, or feel loved and protected, all depending on the husband. If he is under the subjection to the LORD, he will treat his wife with love and respect.

MATT 8:1-9:18

We see here that Yeshua shows love through action, in healing the leper, it is an act of “giving” He gave back health to an unclean man, yet Yeshua also respected and honored the Torah, in telling the man to go to the priest and offer the proper sacrifice for his healing, Yeshua, who is our Messiah, Savior and LORD had ALL RESPECT for the Torah and its commandments.

Another thing we must note is that there are two types of “Tza-arat” (Leprosy), physical and spiritual. One thing is being healed physically, on the outside; another is being healed on the inside. We can be healthy outside, but corrupt on the inside, or, unhealthy physically, yet Holiness resides inwardly. We need that balance, of being “tahor” (clean) both inwardly and outwardly.

We must also remember going back to the study concerning Lot. He was considered “Righteous Lot” yet was affected by living in Sodom; he had to be almost “dragged out” by the two angels. His inner being was being affected by living around the wicked. His wife was “sold out” to Sodom and became “well salted” in the end; his daughters committed indecency with him and brought about Moab and Ammon. Take care lest we be “Tza-arat” inwardly.

The rest of these two chapters have to do with Yeshua healing the paralytic, and a Roman officer tells Yeshua about his sick servant. He heals many, and all who come to Him. As Yeshua healed those with physical ailments, we should also be concerned with our spiritual ailments. Through the power of the Ruach HaKodesh (The Holy Spirit), we all have access to be healed by the power of G-d. If we want it and are willing to receive it, we will get it. Our physical bodies will wear away, grow old, and finally, cease to function, yet our spirit being is what lives on forever. But WHERE? That is the choice which every person will have to make.

Salvation or perdition, the choice is within our grasp. If “Yeshuah” (salvation) is our choice, our “corruptible” will be transformed into “incorruptible” when we are transformed to live with Adonai forever. The same with perdition, all who choose to reject Yeshua will remain in their corruptible essence forever, enduring the fires of the wrath of G-d’s divine judgment. So don't die in your sins. Make the right choice, choose Yeshua, choose “Yeshuah” (salvation) from 1 Cor 15:50-57

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