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Federal grand juries in Chicago are also rejecting Trump's Justice Department

Fair, those are valid concerns, but it is not a new phenomenon. It is also not proof against the safeguards we have built into our judicial system. The bigger item of concern to my mind is the increasingly limited jury pool as citizens attempt to bypass the process in order to not participate. I think the idea that we have somehow reached a critical mass where jury nullification will be the norm or even prevalent is a valid conclusion.
I'd rather have people try to get out of it, than the inverse...

Which is, people who do have biases that would prevent them from being impartial, but know how to answer the questions the right way so that do appear capable of being impartial so they can get on juries.

There are activism/advocacy groups that literally aim to engage in "Prospective Jury Coaching".

For reasons of "Hey if any of our allies ever gets pinched for something, if you happen to get called for jury duty, here are the do's and don'ts of how to answer questions, here's what to delete from your social media, so you can get on that jury (and then dig your heels in on a not guilty)"

Every once in a while people will get busted for it

The particular story I recall from Cleveland didn't involve this group, but one that was engaging in something very similar. It was during the time when Cleveland was having rashes of those "street takeovers" where they'd just go block I-90 or I-70 (and in some cases, get into fights with drivers). Anonymous/Sock posters were on their Facebook groups encouraging similar things.

Basically, coaching people on how to employ jury nullification for laws they don't like and how to help "allies" get off the hook.



But really, an equally large challenge with finding impartial juries, is that due to social media, stuff is being "socially litigated" in the court of public opinion, months before it actually gets to real court.
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State leaders speak out about plans to expand the Islamic Academy of Alabama

Are you sure you want to play this game?

Here is the 1990s section of your list:

From 1996-1998, Eric Rudolph by himself committed more terrorism attacks than the islamists have on their list. Rudolph bombed Centennial Park in Atlanta during the 1996 Olympics, a lesbian bar, and two abortion clinics.

Then there are the targeted murder of abortion providing doctors in 1993, 1994 (also a bodyguard), and 1998.

If anti-abortion terrorism isn't enough for you I have the motherload of terrorist murder, the April 19th, 1995, bombing of the Murrah Federal Building by two members of the RW patriot/militia movement that killed 168.
Rudolph was a racist extremist who would murder other Christians & McVeigh wasn’t even Christian ( until he took his last rites prior to execution).

Anti abortion terrorism is a blight on Christianity and must be prevented:



Murders​

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In the United States, violence directed towards abortion providers has killed at least eleven people, including four doctors, two clinic employees, a security guard, a police officer, two people (unclear of their connection), and a clinic escort.[I 16][I 17] Seven murders occurred in the 1990s.[I 18]




In all of this, you seem to liberally attribute some domestic US terrorism to Christianity that is inaccurate in your linchpin reference to McVeigh. Just as many people died in the extremist attack on New Years 2025 in New Orleans than in all of the anti abortion cases. It’s all bad but challenging the narrative is worse for some I guess.


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Freedom From Sins Bondage

Opening Prayer

Heavenly Father, We come before You with thankful hearts, thanking You for the freedom You have given us through Your Son, Jesus Christ. I pray You will open our understanding as we reflect on Your Word today. Help us grasp the depth of the redemption purchased by His blood and the freedom we now walk in as Your children. I ask that Your Spirit guide our thoughts and renew our hearts as we meditate on the freedom from sin’s bondage. In Jesus Mighty name, Amen.

One of the greatest joys of Salvation, is the freedom we get from the bondage of sin. The chains that once held us captive have been broken, through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. We were enslaved in the bondage of our sins. Through the redemption of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, He rescued us from that bondage and redeemed us back by His blood.

Romans 6:22-23 (NKJV)But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life. For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Because of this, we are no longer slaves to guilt, shame, or destructive patterns.”

By His blood, He purchased our deliverance and brought us into His glorious Light. He rescued us from that bondage and redeemed us back by His blood. His sacrifice broke the chains that held us captive, and opened the way to freedom, forgiveness, and eternal life. It was final - it was complete. The redemption through the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ is both a gift and a calling.

Colossians 1:13–14 “He has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son of His love, in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins.”

We now are united to Jesus Christ in the Spirit, sharing and participating in His death, not in the physical sense, but in the spiritual sense. Our sins are now dead and gone, and what we once considered important to us to take part in have been replaced by the deep desire in our hearts to take part in the Kingdom of God and all of God’s righteousness.

Romans 6:6–7 “Knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. For he who has died has been freed from sin.”

Romans 6:22 “But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life.”

We have been set free to walk in righteousness empowered by the Holy Spirit, to live a new life that honors God. We have been set free by the blood of Christ. We are no longer living under the control of sin, but rather, we are living in the presence of true liberty, with the absence of the control sin had over our lives.

Romans 6:18 “And having been set free from sin, you became slaves of righteousness.”

John 8:34–36 “Jesus answered them, ‘Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin. And a slave does not abide in the house forever, but a son abides forever. Therefore, if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed.’”

Through Christ we are called to stand firm in the liberty He has secured for us. We are no longer bound by the chains of sin or fear. We are walking freely in His grace. He has delivered us from the power of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of His beloved Son, where redemption and forgiveness flow through His precious blood.

Galatians 5:1 “Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.”

Colossians 1:13–14 “He has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son of His love, in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins.”

As redeemed children of God, we no longer walk under the weight of sin’s bondage or the shadows of our former life. Christ has broken every chain, silenced every accusation, and opened the way for us to live in true liberty through His Spirit. The freedom He purchased is not temporary or fragile - it is complete, secured by His blood, and sustained by His grace. May we continue to walk in this freedom daily, choosing righteousness, embracing holiness, and living as those who have been brought from darkness into His marvelous light.

Questions to Ponder
  1. In what areas of my life do I still live as though I am bound, even though Christ has already set me free?
2. How is the Holy Spirit leading me to walk in the “fruit to holiness” that Romans 6 describes?
  1. What does it mean for me personally to “stand fast in the liberty” Christ has given, and not return to old patterns?
Closing Prayer

Lord Jesus, Thank You for breaking the chains that once held us captive and for bringing us into the freedom of Your grace. Help us walk daily in the liberty You have secured, choosing righteousness over sin and light over darkness. Strengthen us by Your Spirit to live lives that honor You, reflect Your love, and bear the fruit of holiness. May Your freedom shape our steps and Your presence guide our days. We give You all glory and praise. In Jesus Mighty name, Amen.

To the Holy Spirit: Thank You for guiding every word, guarding every step, and glorifying Jesus. All glory, honor, praise, and worship belong to God Almighty, who alone is worthy.

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Special thanks to Bible Gateway for providing accessible, searchable Scripture resources that support devotional writing and spiritual study.

May these words echo grace, healing, and truth wherever they are read.

Ministry Correspondence: Email: PGGrace@Proton.Me

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Trump’s team sees Europe’s ‘erasure.’

According to current research, higher education may lead to increased political and ideological polarization. It might explain why people feel the need to be so outspoken, and unshakable in their politics, like any kind of indoctrination would lead to.

The links in the above post might help in understanding this - and do consider that it might be a widespread problem.
Now the link I provided previously showed the reasons for the fine X received. Could you explain to me why you think that Twitter pre-Elon would have fall afoul of regulations that weren't then in place, or more importantly why this is supposedly somehow the EU being against free speech? We know the exact reasons behind the fine.
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The Great Judgment is coming

2025 rapidly drawing to a close...futurists have bee singing this same tune of "Soon" on this board since I joined over 25 years ago... 2030 will be here soon enough... then 2040 will come and go too... and it'll still be soon, because for futurism to be true, words must mean the opposite of what they actually mean.
And Parousia is still around -nay saying as usual.
Soon, is a relative term. Very obviously 'soon' to God is different to soon for humans. We all have different lifetimes, so the Prophesies will be fulfilled to all at different stages of their life. Up to now, since Jesus Ascended, that has meant no one has experienced what we are told about the end times.
I believe that will 'soon' change. Within my lifetime. You are welcome to believe otherwise, but that may cause some disadvantage for you, if it does commence as is Prophesied; leading up to the glorious Return of King Jesus.

The evidence for dramatic change is all around us, the world simply cannot continue as it is for much longer.
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Tim Walz Vows to Bring More Somalis to Minnesota, Despite Growing Fraud Scandal Reaching Into the Billions

I don't know if Tim Walz is Christian, but finally, someone living the taking care of "the least of us" as Jesus noted.
Just wish more folks who claim to be Christian would take Jesus's teachings in consideration.
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This Is Who Democrats Like Tim Walz Are Defending

Here are only a few of the would-be astronauts and scientists who are no longer terrorizing the streets of Minneapolis thanks to Operation Metro Surge:

There are many good Democrats and Republicans and others who will not give in to a radical agenda to destroy our country.

Seeking advice for job search

Hello all! I am a new member in Christian Forums, and so pleased to be a part of this online forum. I look forward to interacting with you all.
I am seeking advice after a one-year job search that has come to a crossroads with immediacy for the end of 2025. Also, please let me know if posting this personal summary is permittable for this forum, or this site in general.
I am trusting in the Lord's provisions, and I hope this avenue will prove successful.

"Hello, my name is Jasmine, and I am a candidate for your open paid, entry-level remote position at a Christ-centered, values-based company or organization offering 10 - 20 hours per week. I bring remote administrative assistant experience, experience working under the Department Director at one of Cleveland’s leading primary care service centers as well as a background in customer service and a skillset sharpened by volunteer and community efforts. With a Bachelors degree expected in Fall 2026 for Christian Thought in Humanities, I am confident that my educational background will be a boon to the educational makeup of your workforce.
I am certain that with my date entry and Microsoft 365 suite proficiency, empathetic and hard-work ethic and teachable and adaptable attitude, I can promote your mission-based organization to excel and prosper in its endeavors.

I would love to hear from you. Please contact me through direct messaging with questions, comments, or concerns.

God bless.

“Therefore I saw that there is nothing better than a man should rejoice in his works, for that is his portion; for who can bring him to see what will be after him?'
Ecclesiastes 3:22"

Thank you in advance.

Kirk Cameron Takes Heat for His Annihilationist View on Hell

What theological dictionary, encyclopedia, or lexicon are you getting that from, I dont have it anywhere... and I own over 50 of the best theological word dictionary reference books.
Perhaps that is the problem. Jesus' Gospel of the Kingdom was quite simple and summed up in two commandments. based on truth from the Father that stated His will when followed served others while our will served ourselves, the root of all evil..
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The real gifts and what they really are.

Well you seem also to be saying that people are using the Spiritual gifts incorrectly. What do you mean by that? Exactly how?
Hey ARB

I would probably break some forum rules if I went into that. Lets just say that I believe that I gave the correct understanding. Just compare that to what you see and hear about the gifts today.

Dave
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Release International prayers for Algeria.

Release International’s partner in Algeria supports pastors who are facing legal action. This includes providing lawyers, paying fines and providing monthly support for the families of pastors who have been arrested or imprisoned.



Pray
for Christians in Algeria, as the government continues to prosecute people for unauthorised worship, while at the same time refusing to allow the Protestant Church of Algeria to officially register its churches.



Pray for a number of Algerian Christians who have appeared in court recently. Pray for God’s protection and for his favour in the verdicts. Pray for all Christians currently facing legal proceedings.



Pray for the release of 6,000 Bibles that have been held at the port of Algiers for three years. These were legally imported by the Bible Society of Algeria.
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Zions New Children

Typical brushing aside of careful arguments and historical and biblical evidence.
Your 'careful arguments'. simply don't cut it.
Your post #150, is directly below mine #149, where I quote Jeremiah 8:5-12. A Prophecy that is obviously unfulfilled.
These were fulfilled by the time of Jesus, as evidenced by the fact that Jesus walked around the streets of Jerusalem!
Then the Holy Land was destroyed by the Romans. 70-135 AD.
That was part of Ezekiel 21:14 Prophecy, where the 'Sword of slaughter' will strike Jerusalem; the Jews three times. One/ Babylon, 2/ Rome and the third soon to come; from the Lord. As graphically described in Ezekiel 21:1-7
You don't even realise the consequences of your false teaching. The side effect is you undermine the very gospel itself by completely disregarding how the Old testament prophecies were meant to be read.
For sure; there will be consequences. 1 Corinthians 3:12-15 explains it.
I read and understand the Prophesies as they are Written. I have a whole library shelf of reference books, like Herodotus, Gibbon, etc, to ascertain what has happened in ancient times. As I see it; most remain yet to happen.

That most people disagree with a future fulfilment of the Prophesies, this is because they have chosen to believe false teachings and the Lord has blinded them to the truths. Many scriptures confirm this. Matthew 11:25 is just one of them.
So it is difficult but not impossible to understand Gods plans for our future. Wait for the Day! Zephaniah 3:8
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Fired Justice Department lawyer says he refused to lie in the Abrego Garcia case

Kilmar Abrego Garcia is released from immigration detention


I have always said if Garcia is what the Trump DOJ says he was, then slap a parcel tag on his backside and send him away.
However, it's clear the Trump DOJ failed to back up their "look, he has MS-13 tattooed on his fingers" claims that Garcia was the danger he was.
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Salvation is in your hands, Jesus did his part

It’s starts off with repentance, that’s one of the first thing Jesus says when he got started in his ministry, Jesus says in Luke 5:32
Repentance is in Christ hands, He gives it as a prince and a Savior Acts 5:31

31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
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The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

Notice also that in Jn 11:50 that Christ dying equates to people not dying, [That the whole nation die not] this surely intimates that His death saves from death, meaning dying in ones sins. His death will prevent everyone in that nation from dying in their sins, which of course is the remnant according to the election of grace.9
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Hidden Error

I was just thinking about Romans 8:1. It comes right after chapter 7's discusion of the conflicts inside a person who serves God with his mind but serves sin with the flesh (Ro 7:25 b) and it expounds upon the victory Christ gives us over the wretchedness we feel for being so close to sin (Ro 7:24-25a).

The point is that God corrects us whenever we go astray (Heb 12). His correction does not come with condemnation.
I know we're never judged by God but "chastened" (Heb 12:6, 7), unless you can judge the Lord Jesus! I don't know why I didn't understand what you meant by "the lack of condemnation for those who are in Christ." Of course it means absence of judgement to believers.

I'm trying to let others know that believers are always forgiven, it's not like we go in and out of His forgiveness. He knows we want to please Him as much as possible, because He always "works" (causes) this in us (Phl 2:13). I thank God for His forgiveness all the time.

Under the Law, Christ gave the Jews a model prayer that involved asking for forgiveness when they pray, because "It is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins" (Heb 10:4). They still had to offer up sin sacrifices because the sin was still present, since the blood of animals could not "take away sin"; but "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness" (1John 1:9).

Forgiving all unrighteousness means permanent forgiveness, so we don't need to continue asking (unless we don't understand permanent forgiveness), but thanking Him. God can do this because the Lord Jesus' expiation for our sin permanently "took away" all our sin, past, present and future. Taking away "all unrighteousness" is the same as saying all our sin!

Though we ignorantly sin (Num 15:24-29), God does not see us as after the old man or sin nature, because "You are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit" (Rom 8:9). To be in the flesh (sin nature) means your sin is yet with you! The word "flesh" in the NT almost always refers to the sin nature of man's spirit:
  1. the flesh, denotes mere human nature, the earthly nature of man apart from divine influence, and therefore prone to sin and opposed to God. -Strong's G4561 - sarx. G4561 - sarx - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv)
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Why Do Christians Resist the Idea of “Social Justice”? A Theological Question

Maybe we don't do more acts of justice because we've started to see them as separate from sharing the gospel.
Yet the Gospel of the Kingdom, Jesus' only gospel, was in following the Father's Kingdom/will was to act in servitude to both God and each other. It is the gospel.
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The law, the commandments, and Christians.

except he doesn't say this. Paul doesn't say it either. there is an elephant in the room you're refusing to admit is there. Hebrews tells us the old covenant is obsolete, the 10 are the covenant document and seal of the old covenant so they are obsolete. so how can both Jesus and Paul point to a system under the 10 while at the same time it is made obsolete?
Because they both understood that, while the law was incapable of actually producing holinesss in us, it was nonetheless holy, right, spiritual and good as per Rom 7, testifying to another righteousness that could actually accomplish what the law could not. So the OC was made obsolete only because the NC could actually produce the authentic obedience that the old could not. Basil of Caesarea, a 4th century bishop, sheds some light here:
“If we turn away from evil out of fear of punishment, we are in the position of slaves. If we pursue the enticement of wages, . . . we resemble mercenaries. Finally if we obey for the sake of the good itself and out of love for him who commands . . . we are in the position of children.”
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