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Missing Virginia high school football coach wanted for child sexual abuse material: Police

Have they checked all the local churches? Seems they tend to offer safe harbor for these kind of people.
Many predators become ministers because it's all about ACCESS. I don't even want to think about what is going through their minds. It gives the chills. ugh
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Former congressional candidate (from out of state) charged with vandalizing Satanic Temple display at Iowa Capitol

Update time.

Mississippi Republican Takes Plea Deal After Destroying Satanic Statue in Iowa

Michael Cassidy, a former congressional and legislative candidate, was set for trial June 3, but his attorney filed a guilty plea on his behalf to an aggravated misdemeanor count of third-degree criminal mischief, the Des Moines Register reported. [felony charges were dropped as part of the deal. He gets 2 years probation and pays restitution.]

Since that 2023 event, Iowa has refused the Satanic Temple's applications to have a holiday event at the Capitol.

State again denies Satanic Temple's request to hold event at Iowa Capitol building

Matt Kezhaya, general counsel for The Satanic Temple, said the government is not alowed to deny pubic services or benefits to people or religous groups because officials disagree with their beliefs.

"Once state officials open up the Capitol to public events, as it has for displays and events around the holidays, they can't legally exclude The Satanic Temple because of its disfavored or minority viewpoint," he said in a statement.

In June, the ACLU of Iowa filed a civil rights complaint on behalf of The Satanic Temple Iowa alleging state officials illegally discriminated against the group based on its members’ religion when they denied the group’s event request in 2024.

[And now they've denied it again for 2025.]
Vandalism is vanadism. I understand why he did it, from a retro-perspective*, but he has no right to destroy someone's property. That's so uncalled for.

*In Christianity, Satan is evil. NOT that I'm advocating for destroying other people's property. EVER.
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Oil & Natural Gas Rigs decrease in US: Thanks, Trump

Trump's trying to get more rigs.

Trump faces rare rift with Florida Republicans over offshore drilling plan

“The new maps released today by @SecretaryBurgum and @Interior outlining potential new offshore oil drilling sites in the Gulf of America are HIGHLY concerning—and we will be engaging directly with the department on this issue,” Sen. Ashley Moody (R-Fla.) wrote in a post on the social platform X.

“Our Administration supports the 2020 Presidential Memorandum [when Trump 1.0 blocked drilling in Florida] and urges the Department of Interior to reconsider and to conform to the 2020 Trump Administration policy,” Molly Best, a spokesperson for DeSantis, said in a statement to The Hill.

The Bureau of Ocean Energy Management’s “updated reserve estimate of 7.04 billion barrels of oil equivalent shows the Central and Western areas will remain prolific for decades, but sustaining the Gulf’s long-term competitiveness means evaluating opportunities in the Gulf of America Program Area B as well,” Erik Milito, president of the National Ocean Industries Association, said in a statement to The Hill, referring to all of the drilling areas proposed by the Trump administration.
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Judge dismisses James Comey and Letitia James cases, finding prosecutor's appointment invalid

That progressive liberal judge doesn't know the facts. She made a political decision instead of a lawful decision.

She ain't a liar.

Everyone lies, it is part of our sin nature. Some just lie more than others. Psychologists have studied this enough that most psych tests will have questions on lying. Answer that you never lie may get your pre-employment application thrown out.

The above may show ignorance, hyperbole but perhaps not purposeful lies? Like the BBC is 100% fake news. Anyway, as to the case, from what I read it was quite legal. Not every court is political
A true progressive judge would have likely dismissed to where it can not be tried again. They did a favor to Trump because the insurance lawyer with no trial experience was losing the case.
Here is just one excerpt from google ai on this judge.
"U.S. District Judge Cameron McGowan Currie is considered
highly qualified and is widely respected in the legal community for her extensive experience, procedural rigor, and knowledge of the law."
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Church is boring

Well, everyone sings and there’s no music. I don’t like to sing, so I listen ir sing in my head. Then it’s like a RC where we get crackers and little wine things, and take “the Eucharist.” Then we sit through readings and the preacher comes on. I find the sermons to be pretty good but sometimes they have a Spanish guy there and they take turns where the preacher says a sentence and the Spanish guy translates.
Ahhh, I see.
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The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

Gender affirming care is expansive. It does not mean that schools are performing surgeries or school nurses hand out hormones. Don't be silly. Affirming a kids gender is more than that.

In Oregon the Dept. Of Education has gender affirming care in their schools.
They have entire documents on how schools are supposed to provide gender affirming care for the students.

Minnesota does the same.

In Seattle the schools allow gender clinics in the schools which do provide hormones to the kids. Can you imagine if schools allowed churches inside the schools to operate all day and hold services during the school day?

Or perhaps a pro-life pregnancy caring center?
Extreme ideologies such as these don't belong in public schools. Impressionable minors don't need to be exposed to it. Let them live their lives. Boys are boys, and girls are girls. 15-20 years ago, we never heard of this! Now it's everywhere! What changed? ugh
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Trump promises $2000 tariff dividend to all Americans

Senate Republican Ron Johnson: ‘We can’t afford’ $2,000 tariff checks

“Look, we can’t afford it. I wish we were in a position to return the American public their money, but we’re not,” Johnson told Fox Business’s Maria Bartiromo.

“We’ll have at least a $2 trillion deficit this year,” Johnson warned, comparing the staggering national deficit projected for 2025 to smaller deficits under former President Obama and during Trump’s first term.
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Trump praises NYC Mayor-elect Mamdani after White House meeting

And perhaps Trump isnt the fascist Hitler that the left wing media was painting him to be.
It SHOULD be off-limits for anyone to be compared with Hitler.
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That being said, it is not off-limits to call someone a fascist or socialist. We can debate in what sense Trump is a fascist or whether calling him tat is so, so off-limits.
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Do you keep the Sabbath? (poll)

And you did NOT provide a verse how anyone can be saved under the Law of MOSES. ??

and you HIS SAINTS and not just Jews SO WHO are HIS SAINTS ??

And just where does. the BODY of CHRIST come IN by 1. Cor 12:12. !!

dan p
God claimed the Ten Commandments as His commandments Deut4:13 Exo20:6 it is His Testimony not Moses written by the Holy Spirit, not Moses Exo31:18 Moses didn’t even take credit for God’s work Exo32:16 and he was there. God’s commandments are under His mercy seat, not Moses Exo 25:21 and in His heavenly Temple, not Moses Rev15:5 Rev11:19, sad man lowers the standard of what God claims as His, the God of the Universe in His own words the Creator Exo20:11, to a human being, the creation. That’s not to say Moses was not a very important person, but he did not create heaven and earth and he never once claimed the Ten Commandments as his commandments- because they are God’s, He took ownership of them, they belong to Him, they are His. He gave them to the people of God. Rev14:12 and keeping them through love and faith reconciles us Rev22:14


God is not going to have His heaven and earth separated- Jews on one side coming before the Lord to worship Him on the Sabbath, while the rest are profaning His Sabbath. Why He said all flesh Isa66:23 and I do not believe God will force anyone to keep His Sabbath day holy in the New Heaven and earth, if we don’t want to now, why His judgment is one of love, not everyone will be happy in a world of no sin John3:19-21


You’re right His saints are God’s people and God’s people keep God’s commandments Rev14:12 - His version because He is God and best to let God be God to define His own commandments which He did plainly In the most awesome way.
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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

. Do you believe this annihilation is immediately after death, or is it at the Last Judgment?
I believe at the last judgement. Christ called it the second death.
And if at the Last Judgment, what is the condition of the psyche until the final judgment, unconscious or being in some sort of torment?
I believe there is a gulf as Christ described. And I believe after Christ was quickened/made alive in the Spirit he went to that side to preach to the spirits in prison.
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"Don't Give up the Ship"

Who threatened the lives of anyone. Surely you aren't referring to the president are you? I don't recall him saying he was going to kill anyone.
He did not say that he personally would put the noose around their necks and pull the trapdoor lever, but he did call for them to be hanged and otherwise executed.

Hot rhetoric!
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What happened in the past has an effect on us today, all because Sin is in the world.

Quite preachy, don’t you think? It does not add to your credibility. So you reject the Spirit In favor of the law? Do you not see your folly?

“And when you were dead in your wrongdoings and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our wrongdoings, having canceled the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2‬:‭13‬-‭14‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Christ nailed the law to the cross. It’s really that simple. Tell you what, you actually address my post and I’ll give you the gift to show you why and for what purpose the law was established as Paul explains in Romans 3:31.
I agree, Christ nailed the law on the cross, but you my friend don't seem to know which law it was. Paul preach about more then just one law, more then just one death.

Paul didn’t come preaching and teaching his own thing, but he abided in the doctrine of Christ. (Rom. 3:20) Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sights for by the law is the knowledge of sin. The deeds of the law is referring to the animal sacrificial laws, all those sacrifices can never remove sins, so they could never be justified. This is true because the blood of Jesus can only justify us. The animal sacrificial laws was added because people continue to sin, and the wages of sin bring for death. So instead of God killing people every time they sin, the Lord gave Moses a law to use, animals. So by the other law (Ten Commandments, Statutes and Judgement) is the knowledge of sin. Because, Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Now we have just read the biblical definition of sin, the transgression (breaking) of the law (commandments.) It doesn’t matter what you or I think sin is, it’s what God says sin is that counts. (1John 3:4)

Paul says in Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. So when you quoted all the places in the Bible that do away with this animal sacrificial law, not understanding that Paul talks about two sets of law. The Royal law (Ten Commandments) and the animal sacrificial law sometimes in the same verse you bring can bring destruction to yourself not knowing which law is which.

At some point common sense should kick in. If I'm reading about the doing away of a law or not under a law, then somewhere else Paul tell you that the law is Holy just and good, another place break mostly all the Ten commandments down. A light bulb should come on in your head, Paul have to be talking about two sets of laws. In other places Paul explain the animal sacrificial law.

Paul says in (Rom. 4:15) Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. If there is no law there is no sin.
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Let's Track the Economy (with objective empirical data?)

Trump Canceling GDP Report Comes Under Scrutiny

The U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis said on Monday that it has canceled the release of its advance estimate of third-quarter GDP. [And no future release date has been set.]

The department said the release was being canceled due to disruption caused by the federal government shutdown, but the announcement has sparked criticism and speculation that the report is being held because of disappointing data.
It’s a good thing that the American economy isn’t in thrall to Official Government Reports that shed light on what is going on in the American economy!
0h wait…
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Does atheism even really exist?

View attachment 373640 This was the atheist symbol.

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Seeking advice from lifelong virgins

I lost someone young too though with far different complications than what you have. I can say too that while it has lasting affects, the problem with my relationships has not been any sort of promise, but rather the idea of other women not measuring up.
While your promise is noble, I think you should void it. Why? because there is no marriage in heaven. I imagine the woman who died would want you to have a chance. I would confess that promise as a sin, and try to move on giving yourself at least the option for marriage. It seems likely you are hardwired for marriage, so trying to short circuit that now is going to result in some pain for you. In your confession, I would tell God too that you are sorry you made that promise too if you did not consult with Him. Chalk it up to trying to do the right thing, that ended up in tragedy, but please don't carry that tragedy much further. Honor her life by remembering her and learning to grow in Christ with all that God can bless you with including a wife and family.
As to comparisons of her to other women, you will be able to overcome that. You have to see your role and any future woman you date from God's perspective, not yours. I will say too that God is very compassionate when you lose someone close like that. He will certainly try to bless you out of that loss when the time is right. Am alternative that helped me too was to consider foreign women.
I am certain the whole ordeal is like a test to you, with all kinds of emotions and thoughts. Rather than having even a hint of blaming God, which you may or may not be doing, you have to dig deep and let the relationship serve to inspire you to do even greater things for God. That death in my life inspired me to become a Christian, to this day, decades later, it continues to help me care more about others. I pray her death will be a positive catalyst for you too in every way, including marriage if you find the right person. God bless.
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Obama care collapsing.....

'No-win position': GOP careening towards crisis on health care plan

Lillis wrote, "The deadline has put Republican leaders into a no-win position: If they extend the tax credits, they’ll go on record for the first time augmenting a Democratic law they deem noxious while infuriating a conservative base that’s spent more than 15 years trying to kill it.

"If they don’t, the out-of-pocket health costs for millions of people will skyrocket heading into next year’s midterm elections, when Republicans are already at risk of losing control of the House."
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