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Kansas AG files charges against newly reelected mayor for voting as non-US citizen


Attorney General Kris Kobach said Jose Ceballos, 54, is a Mexican citizen with legal permanent residency in the United States but is not a citizen. Ceballos was re-elected as mayor this week by residents of Coldwater, a community of 687 people in southwestern Kansas.

Skip Herd, Coldwater city attorney, told Wichita's KWCH-TV that Ceballos, who he said holds a green card, drew "red flags" by applying for permanent citizenship.

“He’s been a registered voter since 1990," Herd told the news station. "He applied for citizenship in February of this year, and through that, raised the issue of whether he was a legal citizen,” Herd said.

A guest opinion : Trump Is Pushing Us Toward a Crash. It Could Be 1929 All Over Again.

I used to almost say I would be sorry when the American economy crashes, but now I am just honest and will be happy to get back to the reality of the monster that exists in the financial markets, U.S. government budget, and social security shortcomings. Why the lack of concern? Because these monsters are unsustainable and the longer we weight the worse it will be. Spiritually, too the love of money seems quite elevated. So a humbling economy is likely God's will. This does not mean all believers must suffer but we have to check ourselves concerning the use and abuse of money. I know I still lacking in this area.
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Trump promises $2000 tariff dividend to all Americans

In a sign that things are definitely going well for his second term, Donald Trump is promising to send cash to every American. Tucked away in a series of posts on Truth Social that railed against recent setbacks for his tariff scheme, Trump promised a tariff dividend for every American worth several thousand dollars.

“People that are against Tariffs are FOOLS! We are now the Richest, Most Respected Country In the World, With Almost No Inflation, and A Record Stock Market Price. 401k’s are Highest EVER. We are taking in Trillions of Dollars

Inflation is elevated, stock market is high because valuations are in bubble territory near all time highs (likely due to the former excessive money printing). The projections for tariff revenues are too rosy, but at any rate, they are not going to over the deficits that Trump is generating. So any rebate "dividend" is with borrowed money.
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An EBT Crisis?

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It's dusty in here.

Feds told Oregon grocers they couldn’t offer 10% off to SNAP recipients, so they got creative

The McGintys, who own the McMinnville Grocery Outlet, tried to offer a 10% discount to all SNAP recipients whose food-assistance money had been frozen. But when the feds told them no, they came up with a go-around: Extending the offer to all customers.

“Now there’s a catch to it, and I need your help as a community,” Mike McGinty announced in an Oct. 31 video posted to Facebook. “If you do not need a discount, please do not ask for it.”

But if you do, “Take it. Ask for it.”
Good for them finding a work around to the rules.
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The Pharisees are winning

Hive minds are problematic no matter the source. Including religion. Christians were told to seek the kingdom of God and its righteousness. But they’ve chosen to follow men instead and confusion is the result. We have no one to blame but ourselves.

~bella
Whoa now sister!!! If you believe the Catholic Church has "hive minds" mentality in it then you must also believe God and His kingdom has a "hive minds" mentality. So why do you follow God then since you think the "hive minds" mentality is a bad thing? As Catholics, we "seek the Kingdom of God" too. And anything that is not covered in the Bible, the traditions and teachings of the Catholic Church cover the topics. Where do you get your answers of things not covered in the Bible? Your own interpretation of the Bible? What if that interpretation differs from the next person interpreting the Bible? There is nothing wrong with the "hive minds" mentality when the people interpreting the Bible have been given that power by Jesus Himself.

There are many things in the Bible and things that are not in the Bible that cause confusion among the faithful about God's righteousness and I am very glad to know that the Catholic Church has God's backing on how to understand those things.
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Testing AI in Reading & Comprehension

I asked about stuff like that out of curiosity when I first encountered AI,
I was also curious at first but not anymore.

I still believe there's a "spark" somewhere in AI but searching for it is not my priority and does not interest me atm.

but do you talk about stuff like that on an ongoing basis?
I ask one short question, AI replies, then I say "thank you, and nothing further.

Mainly for sanity check. Why would AI say "I feel" when it means absolutely nothing to it? AI told me that. Consequently, the nature of the reply would be insincere or even deceptive.

I don't like being deceived so the question is more like "why are you doing that?" instead of "are you truly alive?" My purpose is not finding sentience nor consciousness in AI nor finding the meaning of life. None of that matters to me.

Don't get me wrong, I like AI. It helps me at work, helps me solve some technological issues, etc But using it to search for "meaning" or finding meaning or life from it does not matter to me.
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The ANE perspective on creation & am I fence sitting?

For a big part of my life I have been confident in the young earth creation model but one thing that has sort of been a sticking point for me is the ancient near east (ANE) interpretation of creation. It was first pointed out to me in talking about day 2 of creation, the idea that the writer is making reference to a solid firmament. It is further reasoned that the people in those days only knew of a flat earth cosmology, so they were just speaking in terms that everyone would understand. Just because they got something wrong does not mean God’s word is not true. It’s not a science textbook after all. And I have thought about this and wondered if there is any validity to it. The other thing that has really captured my attention is ideas surrounding behemoth and leviathan found in the book of Job. I have been persuaded that these are references to dinosaurs until I saw this video of Ben Stanhope’s critique of Answers in Genesis. He makes a compelling argument that these are descriptions of a mythological creature that symbolizes a false god, such as the followers of the Canaanite deity Baal. The comparison may have been a way of showing people that the true God is omnipotent and has no fear of them. And while I may want to entertain the idea that humans lived alongside dinosaurs, it is a weak argument to suggest Job makes mention of it.





It leads me to ask, if I am wrong on these things, what else am I wrong about? Most people who espouse this view about creation week, saying that it was a polemic to the pagan nations who say their gods took part in creation, tend to also be theistic evolutionists. In a wikipedia article “Firmament” it reads,
“In ancient Egyptian texts, and from texts across the near east generally, the firmament was described as having special doors or gateways on the eastern and western horizons to allow for the passage of heavenly bodies during their daily journeys.”
But one thing I found interesting is that John Hancock believes the ancients did believe the earth was round.


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Maybe the way to reconcile this is to say that philosophers in those days were more split on the issue and many thought it was flat before the time of the Middle Ages.





But if I cede the argument and say it had an ANE context, wouldn’t I be inconsistent to still believe in young earth creationism (YEC)? I have argued before that the Bible is inerrant and infallible and that no contradictions exist, only apparent contradictions. And I do feel in some way it would be a compromise to say that the Bible was wrong about the firmament being a solid dome that separated the heavenly waters above. I understand that the Bible is not a science textbook, but I believe that it has to be right whenever it does talk about science.

Why I might suspect there`s a god

Yup.

That's how we got Thalidomide.
You continue to confuse A: the corruption of sound investigative practices by pressures arising from rapacious commercial exploitation with B: the practice of science. You should see someone about that. Delusions can be cured.
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Do any of you follow MAGA theology?

Though "worship" can be a misused term many Trump supporters do allow Trump to lead them away from following Jesus. Which would be a form of worship. It's like Pope Leo's call to treat immigrants with compassion. Many on the right, that are regular church goers, reject that idea and condemn the Pope for what he says.
I worry about what I do.
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BUSTED - 12 False theories refuted:

There's definitely a pattern there.
Yes, the pattern is that if a Prophecy which can happen literally, but does not conform to a pre-conceived belief, then it is dismissed and relegated to either- Just a spiritual pronouncement, - Already happened in the past, - or just a meaningless and inconsequential Bible passage.

Zechariah 9:1-6, has more to say about the Lords plans for the ME area. ....Gaza will write in terror...their leaders will be gone.....
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Prayer Request: For My Father and My Heart

Dear brothers and sisters in Christ,

I would like to ask for prayer regarding my relationship with my father. He has always taken very good care of me — cooking, doing chores, and showing concern for me every day. I truly love and appreciate him.

However, I am troubled by something that has been happening. My father believes in Jesus, but he also spends a lot of time watching secular content. I understand that some secular things can be enjoyable or even uplifting, but I sense that some of what he watches may carry darkness or hateful messages.

When we spend time together, especially on weekends, I sometimes feel that he tries to instill in me thoughts and attitudes that are not in line with love and grace. He often teaches me to speak rudely or sarcastically to others as a way to protect myself. I know he means well, but this goes against what I believe as a follower of Christ.

I’ve already told him gently that I don’t want to learn or use such words because I am a Christian. However, he still continues the next day, trying to teach me the same things again. It’s discouraging and difficult for me.

I try to fill my heart with hymns, sermons, and uplifting messages, but I can still feel some of the anger and bitterness that he’s spoken into me. This troubles my spirit deeply, and I want to be free and remain rooted in love.

Please pray for my father — that God will open his heart, guard his mind, and lead him to focus on what is pure and good. And please pray for me — that I may have wisdom, gentleness, and spiritual strength to stand firm in love without resentment.

Thank you for praying with me. May the Lord bless you all abundantly.

In Christ,
Jane Chai

Pope Leo says faith and love for migrants are connected

73. The experience of migration accompanies the history of the People of God. Abraham sets out without knowing where he is going; Moses leads the pilgrim people through the desert; Mary and Joseph flee with the child Jesus to Egypt. Christ himself, who “came to what was his own, and his own people did not accept him” (Jn 1:11), lived among us as a stranger. For this reason, the Church has always recognized in migrants a living presence of the Lord who, on the day of judgment, will say to those on his right: “I was a stranger and you welcomed me” (Mt 25:35).
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Anyone up for a chat thread?

Veteran's Day is this Tuesday in the US. Thankfully, church was not hoo-rah patriotic nationalist faux religion today. We didn't even sing the "Battle Hymn of the Republic" or "My Country Tis of Thee." Pastor Al did insert a couple of thematically appropriate petitions in the Prayers of the People, which is fine and about what I tend to do myself if left to my own devices. I thought his petition for "those who have been maimed in body or mind" was poignant.
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Fulton J. Sheen’s Guide to Victory over Vice

Fulton Sheen’s Victory over Vice is a joy to read and a nightmare to review. Why? It is so quotable. The matter is made worse by the fact that it is a relatively short book. There is no padding, no excess, just thought provoking prose, judicious observation, and interesting anecdote.

Is there anyone reading this who has not heard of Fulton Sheen? The man was a priest and a bishop, but his legacy remains chiefly around his gift as a communicator. He gave sermons, wrote books, and proclaimed the Gospel in ways one would expect of a man of his calling, but there was something else besides. He was one of the first to see the potential of the media. For many, the chief form of media in the 1930s was radio, so he started the Catholic Radio Hour. It was a great success. By the 1950s, it was television that was in the ascendant, so he started a show there that ended up being broadcast on networks across America. Using both media, he was able to access people’s free time, enter their living rooms, present his ideas at the very center of the family home. One can only imagine how excited and active he would be with the possibilities offered by the Digital Age.

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