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Hentenza · 2025-12-04T06:13:32-0600

Fervent said:
If historical-cultural context are consulted, God-breathed has nothing to do with inspiration. It's expiration that is in view, which is why it is useful...because God makes the text alive.

I disagree.

Fervent said:
The OP seems to promote at least 2 traditions that developed in the late middle ages in sola scriptura and the sui generis nature of the Bible such that it can be called the Word of God in its own right rather than functioning as an icon.

Actually the primacy and holiness of scripture is well documented among the ECFs.

Chesster · 2025-12-04T06:11:28-0600

Instead of complaining about prayer after communion I wish he would address the people who can’t silence their tongues before and during Mass.

Apple Sky · 2025-12-04T06:07:22-0600

Ophiolite said:
Seriously, would you be OK with people making up fairy stories about you after you were gone?

Like they do with Rob Skiba.
Anyway it's not me that is expressing the story, blame the one who wrote the book.

Bob Crowley · 2025-12-04T05:49:30-0600

God may have relented on occasion due to Moses intercession, but there were several occasions when He still punished the people of Israel, sometimes severely.

This is an AI generated summary -

Key instances where God punished the Israelites include:

Worship of the Golden Calf (Exodus 32): After Moses was on Mount Sinai, the people created a golden calf to worship. As punishment, God ordered the Levites to kill about 3,000 people.

Complaining at Taberah (Numbers 11:1-3): The people complained about their hardships, and the Lord sent fire that burned the outer edges of the camp.

Craving Meat (Numbers 11:4-35): After complaining about the lack of meat and being tired of manna, God provided a massive amount of quail but also sent a severe plague that killed many people due to their gluttony and lack of trust.

Miriam and Aaron's Rebellion (Numbers 12): When Miriam and Aaron challenged Moses's authority, God punished Miriam with leprosy for a period of seven days.

Refusal to Enter the Promised Land (Numbers 14): The most significant punishment occurred when the people, out of fear after hearing the spies' report, refused to enter the Promised Land and wanted to return to Egypt. God sentenced that entire generation of adults (except Joshua and Caleb) to die in the wilderness, wandering for 40 years. The ten spies who brought the bad report were struck down by a plague and died immediately.

Korah's Rebellion (Numbers 16): Certain leaders, including Korah, rebelled against Moses's and Aaron's leadership. God caused the earth to open up and swallow the main offenders and their families, while a subsequent plague killed 14,700 people who sided with the rebels.

Complaining about Lack of Water (Numbers 21:4-9): The people complained again about the lack of water and food. God sent poisonous snakes (fiery serpents) into the camp, which bit the people, and many died.

Idolatry at Peor (Numbers 25): The Israelites engaged in sexual immorality and worshipped the Midianite god, Baal of Peor. This resulted in a plague that killed 24,000 people.

God might concede to Mary's requests from time to time, but if He gets fed up enough, He'll act and when He does it will be tough.

Mary might intercede for us, but she can't hold back HIs wrath.

samaus123456789 · 2025-12-04T05:33:10-0600

johansen said:
I'm reluctant to reply to this because I've had a few drinks but:

I've been toying with the idea in my mind for about a year now that the spirit of a person is not the same as the flesh of a person, and so this allows for re-incarnation of spirits of persons and permutations of persons. so imagine you bake a sourdough bread starting from the same starter, but you change the recipe each time. you save a bit, but save the original, and keep doing this over and over again. the recipe is the flesh. the spirit is from God. you combine the two you get a new "person" each time.

so for example, Jesus says john the baptist is Elijah. but john says he isn't Elijah... john is both right and wrong.

so suppose the spirit of a person (which is from God) is not necessarily new, suppose its been on the earth before. but each time results in a new person.

so while pondering specific details of these thoughts, within 1 day someone on a certain internet forum creates a post that suggests that Jesus is Elisha re-incarnated.
i read it thinking to myself: that's weird. never heard that idea before. I privately message him and initially the exchange is positive, then, he starts mocking me. I then think to mock him back saying, Jesus can't be Elisha, because i am.

but i don't, I knew i would be lying if i said that. so i ask him: what is the name of the spirit that called me by the name of Elisha, 12 hours before you made your post?"
and he replies back with "Yeshua"

I share this whole exchange with a friend of mine and.. turns out he met a man who started a cult that believes Jesus is Elijah re-incarnated.

---i'm still left wondering what called me by the name Elisha. -and had the ability to put the same idea into some random person's head who then puts it on the internet.. a person who chooses to mock me rather than accept my free will invitation to talk about the concept.?

for most of my childhood i assumed that Elisha was a female prophet, based on the character as expressed in the accounts. . to be honest i'm still left wondering on that.

Elisha was a he / him in the bible. Yes maybe it meant John the Baptist had the same spirit of prophecy Elijah had. I don't know really.

throughfierytrial · 2025-12-04T05:30:56-0600

Miaomiao said:
Time is running short; The Great Judgment is at hand.
All souls that fail to meet the standard will be destroyed, for this judgment is a prelude to Christ's Final Judgment.
Any soul that has participated in cult sacrifices or worshipped demon will be destroyed.
Any soul of a pastor who has used the name of God to illegally reap wealth will be destroyed.
Any soul that is maliciously involved in the LGBTQ movement will be destroyed.
What is the destruction of a soul?
To suffer forever and ever in the eternal fires of

God's Judgemt Day indeed draws closer continually as time advances… beyond that we know little of the timing. Jesus says in Matthew 24 that all the signs are were already there at that time. Keep Watch of yourself… your life and doctrine is being warned of here. Watch to protect God’s sheep and have a heart toward people and in this way continue to evangelize and have hope for them and remember such ones in prayer. We all were once lost so have mercy on them, mixed with fear!

We see the written accounts of folks who sinned these great sins you listed and they repented, were forgiven and thanked and praised God for the reward of eternal life within them. Even the last hour workers receive an inheritance

johnnypapa · 2025-12-04T05:27:37-0600

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samaus123456789 · 2025-12-04T05:24:27-0600

Guojing said:
When you say new Jerusalem, are you referring to heaven, or a place on earth?

It is heaven comes down to new heaven and earth eventually. Are you IO preterist?

Lily76_ · 2025-12-04T05:01:36-0600

i feel so sorry if this is how teens see themselves if they truly do , sometimes teens like to role-play or do cosplay as in dress up as their faveorate charter from movies or tv shows and anime , but if a teen think they ARE animals they need to see a dr asap , they need to see a psych and fast
when i was a child i would role-play and teen are still children, you don't have a full brain capacity until you are 25 .they have research it . i know where are adults that feel they are from tv and films etc there is game play in board games that you role-play, i won't say what game as it not a thing we should talk about he cos we do have younger members of the forum .

Pioneer3mm · 2025-12-04T04:24:50-0600

'Pakistan deportation sends Gospel to Afghanistan.'
- Mission Network News (mnnonline.org)
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Afghanistan
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ranunculus · 2025-12-04T04:13:28-0600

Patel already displayed his incompetence early on many times like when he kept tweeting out information during ongoing investigations. But then he did this:

> A top FBI official with 27 years standing has reportedly been fired by the bureau after its director, Kash Patel, became enraged by press stories revealing he had used a government jet to travel to see his girlfriend sing the national anthem at a wrestling match.

>Steven Palmer, who had worked at the bureau since 1998, was fired as head of the FBI’s critical incident response group which is responsible for handling major security threats as well as overseeing the agency’s fleet of jets. He was the third head of the unit to be dismissed since Patel became the second Trump administration’s FBI director in February.

> Bloomberg Law, which broke the story, said that three unnamed sources had expressed astonishment at the sacking given that Patel’s flight schedules were fully public and trackable on websites.

He's an idiot.

Between him and Hegseth and RFK jr. this administration is staffed by the dumbest most incompetent people imaginable. Here's a fun word to describe the situation, kakistocracy, a country governed by imbeciles.

stevevw · 2025-12-04T04:05:52-0600

The Barbarian said:
Butlerian jihad, anyone?

I was thinking more 'I Robot'.

camille70 · 2025-12-04T03:59:12-0600

rjs330 said:
Why? Do we get more money from somebody.

Detention facilities are getting 700-1000k per day to house people. The longer they keep someone, the more money is made.

ICE agents have quotas. Legal residents and citizens have reported being stopped or detained more than once.
ICE agents have said the quotas are hurting morale and preventing them from targeting actual criminals.

Many of the people being detained are in the midst of seeking asylum legally and cant just be removed from the country. If they have a lawyer and are fighting removal, many are not being released until the cases are resolved. If they win their immigration cases, ICE has been keeping them anyway in poor conditions and pressuring them to "self deport." (Though I think a couple of judges recently ruled they have to release them on bond.) There are reports of ICE "losing" people because they are shuffling them around to different centers or housing them under false names.

Rescued One · 2025-12-04T03:07:02-0600

PLEASE don't forget to pray for Andrew!

Apple Sky · 2025-12-04T02:54:12-0600

David Lamb said:
Probably not. I have heard it said that the sheep would not have been outside at night in winter

The idea of December was paganism & comes from Saturnalia,

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Saturnalia was an ancient Roman festival celebrated in mid-December in honor of the god Saturn. It was a joyous, carnival-like holiday marked by feasting, gift-giving, and the temporary suspension of social order, including role reversals where masters served slaves. Originally a one-day celebration on December 17th, it was eventually expanded to last seven days, ending on December 23rd.

Apple Sky · 2025-12-04T02:35:54-0600

Miaomiao said:
The Lord told me.

So he has spoken to you also ?

JohnClay · 2025-12-04T02:20:31-0600

CoreyD said:
Joshua is the beginning of carrying out the command to wipe out these nations, isn't it?

Yeah I didn't think of that. Moses never entered the cities of the promised land though Deuteronomy 20:16-20 talks all about it. So things in Joshua could be relevant too then like you were saying.

CoreyD said:
Oh. Not getting them to fly?

I couldn't get the arrows to attach to the animal - e.g. its leg or body.

CoreyD said:
How will you catch a runaway horse, or a cat for that matter... give it fish?

The animals in the game are very tame. Also there are holy hand grenades and the "Body Hacker" (hacks into the Matrix/simulation)

CoreyD said:
You are calling the shots here, John. Not me.
It's your game. I know what I would do for a game. It won't invite the lovers of violence, but it would still be fun.
Everyone has their own heart.

BTW in the Roman Colosseum the crowds also loved violence... "Executions by beasts were popular among plebeians, who saw them as thrilling entertainment". That is far too shocking for my tastes though.

SavedByGrace3 · 2025-12-04T01:47:20-0600

joechristianwarrior said:
I’ve been reflecting lately on how often Scripture warns us about greed and how closely that warning is tied to God’s call for justice and care for others. Jesus speaks about money and the dangers of wealth more than almost any other topic, yet many Christians today find conversations about justice uncomfortable or “political.”

So I wanted to ask the community here:
Why do you think discussions about justice and greed create such tension among believers?
Is it a matter of theology, culture, politics, or something deeper in the human heart?

I’m preparing a video on this topic and would truly appreciate hearing a range of Christian perspectives!

I have never noticed this.

SavedByGrace3 · 2025-12-04T01:44:15-0600

joechristianwarrior said:
Do any of you think Christians will still be living in cities in the end times? And if so, do you think any of them will live off the waste of society in that time period?

I believe that the cities in the end times, starting very soon, will be very much like Sodom and Gomorrah. Get out of the cities.

David Lamb · 2025-12-04T01:33:43-0600

martinlb said:
Why do some people speak in an at least 700-year-old version of the English language?

I don't know. It seems particularly apparent in prayer meetings. For example, I remember a dear Christian brother, now with the Lord, who in prayer referred to people who were ill as those who were "laid on one side on a bed of sickness."

Perpetual Student · 2025-12-04T00:58:04-0600

Bradskii said:
How about you give us a statement as regards your position on the morality of that? Or do you still need to wait to find out who was responsible?

Wait until they somehow can put the blame on Obama, Biden or Hillary Clinton. Then you'll see how wrong the second strike was.

RileyG · 2025-12-04T00:15:04-0600

Interesting! Thanks for sharing!

Valletta · 2025-12-04T00:14:38-0600

Hans Blaster said:
None of which has a thing to do with immigration.

It has nothing to do with the legal immigration process, everything to do with skipping the line of legal immigration in a quest for power and control.

RileyG · 2025-12-04T00:14:34-0600

throughfierytrial said:
God’s gift of faith!!!

Amen!

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