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Judge' house burns down after she rules against Trump

South Carolina judge's house destroyed by fire; officials investigating cause - ABC News


A South Carolina judge's house went up in flames Sunday, hospitalizing three and destroying the home.

Circuit Court Judge Diane Goodstein was walking her dogs on the beach in Edisto Island, S.C., about an hour south of Charleston, when the fire began, according to officials. Her husband, former state Sen. Arnold Goodstein, their son, Arnold Goodstein III, and one other occupant were forced to jump from the burning building from an elevated first floor to escape the blaze, officials said.

Last month, Goodstein blocked the South Carolina Election Commission from providing the Department of Justice with millions of voter files that included personal names, addresses, driver’s license numbers and social security numbers,
according to court documents.
Awful.
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FBI Artic Frost targeting Conservatives

The Senators didn't agree with or cooperate with having their phone records spied upon.
Right, but they can’t investigate why they had been included in investigations without first identifying a reason beyond the affected Senators needing to know how bad the damage is.
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Trump: “I want to try and get to heaven, if possible,”

Trump Says ‘There’s No Reason To Be Good’ – Except To Get Into Heaven

At one point, a reporter asked about a presidential prayer initiative ahead of the country’s 250th anniversary next year.

Trump cogently explained the need for the initiative and the importance he places on it:

We’re dealing – as you know – with all of the different – and not just evangelicals, Christians. We’re dealing with lots of different faiths, religions. And I felt for a long time that if a country doesn’t have religion, doesn’t have faith, doesn’t have God, it’s gonna be very hard to be a good country.

You know, there’s no reason to be good. I wanna be good because you wanna prove to God you’re good so you go to that next step, right? So, that’s very important to me. I think it’s really, very important.
It would help me tremendously if I did the “correct thing” every single day. Sure, I might get a “big head”, but being right all of the time has its privileges.
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Newsome pushed back against Democracy to achieve his political goals

This was just one more failure of California leadership that lead to disaster for many in that state.
Here’s the thing about natural disasters, there’s no one to really “blame”.
Trying to do so, isn’t ultimately profitable, debate-wise.
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The law, the commandments, and Christians.

That's a good start. What if we were to add "life" to what we share in common with the Father and the Son?
  • For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself (Jn 5:26)
  • For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will. (Jn 5:21)
  • And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. (1 Jn 5:11–12)
Having been joined to the Lord and being one spirit with Him also means we have the same life that Jesus and His Father share. And we have it because the Father gave it to us when He sent Jesus to live in our hearts. And like you said, we received Him by faith...
  • Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. (Jn 5:24)
And those who persevere in remaining in Him to the end, producing good fruit, overcoming sin, doing good, will fully realize that life that begins in nascent form in the here and now. They will have shown themselves to be good soil; they will have shown that the verses you've quoted along with others actually apply to them. Until then it's all just talk.
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DOJ issues subpoenas to NY AG Letitia James, including over Trump civil fraud case and NRA case: Sources

Top prosecutor is rejecting Trump pressure to charge New York AG

A key federal prosecutor in Virginia, where James Comey was indicted, is resisting bringing charges against Letitia James.

Elizabeth Yusi, who oversees major criminal prosecutions in the Norfolk office of the Eastern District of Virginia, has confided to co-workers that she sees no probable cause to believe James engaged in mortgage fraud, the two sources told MSNBC. Yusi plans to present her conclusion to the president’s new interim U.S. attorney, Lindsey Halligan, in the coming weeks, they said.

Prosecutors in the Eastern District are now bracing for Yusi to be fired for her own resistance to try a case that many lawyers have said lacks sufficient evidence, according to the two people.

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Meanwhile, I understand Halligan has had to bring in outside prosecutors for the Comey case, presumably because no one in her office wants to touch it.
She'll probably have no problem securing work in the private sector.
So there’s that.
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Government Taking Stakes in Private Companies - Veering Toward Fascism Through Corporatocracy

Trilogy Metals shares soar over 200% after U.S. takes stake in minerals explorer

  • Shares of Canadian minerals explorer Trilogy Metals skyrocketed on Tuesday.
  • It comes shortly after the Trump administration announced a $35.6 million investment to support mining exploration in Alaska.
  • The investment makes the U.S. government a 10% shareholder in the company.
Make Canadian Companies great again!
There’s plenty of money to throw around now that the USAID boondoggle is over!
Now, only “deals” that make us a buck are allowed.
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The rise of menace as a mainstream political tool

Powell Co. KY man arrested after Halloween decorations allegedly depict bodies of local officials

Stephan Marcum was arrested on Saturday and is charged with intimidating a witness in the legal process and third degree terroristic threatening.

"The one hanging was labeled "district judge." There was a rope around the neck of the body," the citation wrote. "From left to right the four other bodies were labeled "mayor," "SIS," "C.A." and "zoning mgr."
I might be with Mister Marcum on this one.
Upon further reading: this guy might be a sovereign-citizen. They tend to be outspoken.
But this is still probably protected political-speech.
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Federal Election Commission down to 2 Commissioners; 4 needed for Quorum; FEC can’t enforce campaign finance laws, formalize investigations

Feature, not a bug.

-- A2SG, aiding and abetting, the new SOP.....
This is all acceptable…Trump was hired (in part) for his willingness to take on inefficiencies in Government, and created inventive “stress-tests”, either through action (or as in this instant) inaction. Let’s see what happens if we jiggle this handle?

Perhaps this spurs our stellar Congress to take on Federal Election laws reform?
Wouldn’t that be nice, an arm of the government being slightly less inefficient!?
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is teaching the same as tradition?

The overturned tables in the temple had nothing to do with the ancient traditions of Judaism but were a transient deviation that was no more reflective upon the actual tradition of Second Temple Judaism as instituted under divine guidance by St. Nehemiah the Prophet and St. Ezra the Priest, than the sale of indulgences reflects upon the actual tradition of the Roman Catholic Church - both were transient and localized anomalies in the worship of God the Father, Son and Holy Ghost as we now know Him to be. The corruption seen in the Second Temple at that late date does not ameliorate or compromise the earlier holiness evinced with the visitation of Christ our True God to the Temple in the twelfth year of His incarnation, nor years earlier, the presence of the Theotokos in the same temple.

Traditions aren't static.

Read Micah 6:6-8. The temple system had limitations, because it bound the notion of atonement for sin in a place and a priesthood, and ultimately didn't have much to do with actual virtue.
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VIDEO: Sen. Kennedy slams Dems' shutdown demands: 'We'll give $1.5T when donkeys fly'


It's just not going to happen. As to the sentencing for trying to kill a Supreme Court justice, I do agree. The number one goal in sentencing should be to protect society.
Oh, lookie, a book-teaser masquerading as “news”, cute.
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Trump sends troops to the 'warzone' of Portland...

That's the problem for many conservatives--deep down it's not the violence that bugs them, it's the disrespect.
Actually its both that bothers us. Its the disrespect that often leads to violence.

In my view its wrong to disrespect the officers and agents who are just doing their jobs. Wrong doesn’t mean illegal. Those are two different things.

But it does say something about the moral character of those who are doing that. It shows poor character.
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No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

You must seem to feel you have a lock on the ordo salutis, but the truth is, it all happens in the blink of an eye and nobody knows the precise order that God works in. I believe that all in the split second that God saves us, He grants saving faith and, BAM, the work is done. Since there is no me needing to accept or deny it, there is no conflict there.
One of the burning questions is when God decided to save His people. Did He do it before the foundation of the world, at the instant of their baptism in water, when they chose to believe the Gospel, or some other time and place?
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The 2025 Government Shutdown Thread

If we just make an exception for Trump, this one time, he’ll fix it so we’ll never have to go down this road again! Somehow.
Sure. I mean, if you can't trust a guy convicted of felony fraud 34 times, who can you trust?

-- A2SG, gotta have some standards.....
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Faith

In Romans 10:5-10, Paul referred to Deuteronomy 30 as the word of faith that we proclaim in regard to proclaiming that God’s law is not too difficult for us to obey, that obedience to it brings life and a blessing, in regard to what we are submitting to by confessing that Jesus is Lord, and in regard to the way to believe that God raised him from the dead for salvation. So yes, this is the faith that upholds God’s law and we are justified by.
In what sense do you understand "upholding God's Law" to mean? Does it mean obedience to all of God's commandments in the Bible?
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Limited atonement !

As I just posted in the Limited Vs. Unlimited Thread -

The simple reality is that all Christians believe in limited atonement unless they believe in universal salvation for all mankind, in which case, they would not be welcome on this board.

There are monergists who believe, as Augustine did, that God has chosen His elect from the foundation of the world such that the salvation of those elect was purchased by the blood of His son, Jesus Christ, on the cross of Calvary.

Then there are syncretists who believe, as the Catholic Church does, that the atonement of Jesus Christ is secured by any of a number of human responsibilities. The atonement is strictly limited to those who conform to God's requirements and cannot be applied in a universal sense to all of mankind.

Most folks, however, disagree with one or the other position, finding various faults with them. The crux of the argument is that it simply is not at all fair for God to show favoritism, either in choosing His people according to His own will, or by placing people in the untenable position of having to conform to some form of belief or behavior which will, in the process, leave the rest of humanity in a state of total and eternal damnation. Thus, the argument is attempted that the atonement of Jesus Christ is, indeed, for all of mankind, but . . . . . . the atonement will not result in the salvation of all mankind.
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