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Is the way you worship important?

do you believe that God cares about how you worship him? should you kneel when you pray, should you be standing when you pray? Should you receive Holy Communion Every time you gather should you be baptised once or more than once? is it OK to dance while you're in church? is it OK to speak in tongues even if you had no idea what those tongues might mean and you don't know what you're saying?

cheque out your answers to see if they fit with what the Bible has to say. The Old Testament has a few things to say about worship so does The New testament.

Or do you not really care very much about what the Bible has to say on worship and you just go along with whatever your denomination says is good?

Hmmmmmm,...... good subject.

"...in spirit and in truth"

Everything stems from our being, our heart. I worship GOD by my spirit in prayer, obviously in the gift of tongues as a Pentecostal, but I also worship Him with my honesty, how truthful I am when I speak to HIM, how much I share my heart with HIM.

To feel The Holy Spirit enwrap my whole body after a small talk with GOD let's me know just how much HE likes how honest I am with HIM. I talk to HIM as a person.
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Evolution conflict and division

Macro evolution or any simiar idea is simply a made up idea
You really believe that? You really think biologists across the world just made it up, with absolutely no evidence at all? Do you believe all of us biologists for the last 100 years or so are too stupid to notice?

...its not Biblical in any sense. And certainly could not have occured in the 6000 years since Creation....so not sure why any Christian would even think about it seriously.
It's fine if you don't want to believe it because it conflicts with how you read scripture, but I don't understand why you feel the need to accuse countless people, many of whom are Christians, of what would have to be history's biggest fraud and conspiracy.
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A perspective on Baptism and the plan of salvation that I have not heard before

If Mary was "kept" from sinning, then there is nothing praiseworthy of her sinlessness.

Mary was conceived with the same nature as every other human since the fall of Adam.
I see your point of view. By saying Mary was kept from sinning, I did not mean to imply that she lacked free will. It is precisely by her consent that she became the mother of Our Lord. God does not force His will upon us.
Mary was kept from sinning by the grace of God in that the Father did not allow her to be deceived. For us the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. We would always choose the good if we were able, but we don’t and we fall. Mary is virtuous in that she always chooses the good, without counting the cost.

Your second statement is where we differ. It is a theological debate that we need not have unless you are willing.

My post was not meant to mischaracterize your position, but simply a statement that despite our disagreement on Immaculate conception and original sin, we both agree that the Theotokos is sinless. Is that not true?
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Chat thread - Friendship Court edition

I'm going to try to learn Koine Greek again. I really want to read the New Testament in its original language!

Amazon has a book on sale for $7 on kindle. You have to get it today.

Basics of Biblical Greek Grammar: Fourth Edition (Zondervan Language Basics Series)
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‘Freaked Me Out’—Lecrae Says He Saw Vision of Demons Laughing About Charlie Kirk’s Murder

Christian hip-hop artist Lecrae said the assassination of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk symbolizes the spiritual warfare occurring in a divided culture. On the latest episode of “Deep End with Lecrae,” the musician said he had a vision about Kirk’s murder while in Africa. He also advised Christians to seek unity amid earthly strife.

Lecrae, who turns 46 today (Oct. 9), said he didn’t know Kirk and had never met him. “I’d only heard of [Kirk] when he falsely accused me of campaigning for [U.S. Senate candidate] Raphael Warnock,” he said. When Kirk was shot and killed Sept. 10 at a college event in Utah, Lecrae was in Africa, so he didn’t hear the news as quickly as others did.

After people criticized the musician for not speaking out about the incident, he made a statement about rejecting violence. “I’m slow to speak because I’m trying to process” the news, Lecrae said. “I’m not that narcissistic to feel like I have to have the leading voice on everything that’s going on in America.”

Lecrae Had a Vision After Charlie Kirk’s Murder


Continued below.

Sept 23rd Rapture

The internet is a lab. Never forget that. Everything you do is tracked and measured. I don’t mention that as a scare tactic but in relation to its purpose. This is the best place to gauge reaction and test it too. Everything you see isn’t always from the origin you assume. It isn’t difficult to pay someone to make content and watch the reactions.

Joshua is a good example. He could be a genuine believer or a psyop. I lean towards the latter given the time frame he shared. He was “aware“ of it during the pandemic when the majority were home but didn’t speak. If spoil was the goal that was the perfect time. But we’re in a different position economically and hardship has many longing for home which increases the demand for messages like his.

If you wanted to study christians the internet is the perfect setting. People don’t censor themselves because they’re anonymous or so they believed. They share their thoughts, feelings, experiences and more. It’s a goldmine of data delivered to your enemy. You can’t assume everyone talking is an ordinary Joe. Israel is paying American influencers $7,000 a post to make pro-Israeli content. Do you think they’re the only one? Of course not. The story went viral because of Gaza.

The people watching rapture predictions are drawn for different reasons. I’ve read the comments and the majority are weary and tired of their hardships. I see similar remarks on christian content which leads me to believe it’s not the rapture in itself but a desire for relief that’s driving them.

Bear in mind, most christians listen to different teachers. It’s fairly common. I mentioned the problem with that on Sue’s thread because you can’t track the leaven. And we’re equally blind when we like someone too. We’ve created an avenue for deceit and shouldn’t be surprised when it occurs. But it’s harder to hide because of the internet. Now the world knows the truth.

You should expect more videos like his and ministers too. You’ve proven you’re gullible and the wolves will come. Because weakness has a scent and when people do things like that they’re ripe for the picking.

~bella
Yes, North America is an experiment.
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Average consumer now carries $6,329 in credit card debt. 'People are stretched,' expert says

Watch the video that i posted in my previous post to understand how constitutional money forces governments to exercise fiscal responsibility. No, understanding the relationship between sound money, and fiat currency, is not off topic when we try to comprehend why the little guy is getting squeezed as wealth is being consolidated by the few.

I understand money quite well and worked in the industry. But I never tell people what to buy in particular. I may mention the merits of an investment and that’s the end of it. I’m not going to debate or throw around terms. Personal finance is more complicated than buying gold. You have to factor in a lot of things including their risk tolerance. No one’s going to take financial advice on a site like this. There’s more reputable sources they can reference and should.

~bella
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Priest explains why there is no hell

Spirit as Life Force: The Hebrew term rûach and the Greek equivalent pneuma mean “wind, breath.” But the emphasis is on the dynamic nature of the wind, its movement, and power. When applied to humans, it describes individuals who function as a dynamic life force in bodily form. The spirit is the breath of life that God breathed into Adam (Gen. 2:7), the life force that characterizes a person. It is God who gave it to us (Isa. 42:5), and it is He who takes it back (Eccl. 12:7; Ps. 104:29; Acts 7:59).
Nowhere in the Scripture is the spirit defined as a self-conscious entity that preexisted the body or continues after death.

Genesis 2:7 states that Adam was formed from “the dust of the ground,” and was lifeless until God breathed into his nostrils the “breath of life”—not an immortal soul. Without breath, human beings will die.

18I said to myself, “As for the sons of men, God tests them so that they may see for themselves that they are but beasts.” 19For the fates of both men and beasts are the same: As one dies, so dies the other—they all have the same breath. Man has no advantage over the animals, since everything is futile. 20All go to one place; all come from dust, and all return to dust.

Daniel 12:2
And many who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake, some to everlasting life, but others to shame and everlasting contempt.
The Bible does not explicitly state that humans possess an inherent "immortal soul," and verses like Ezekiel 18:4 state, "The soul who sins shall die". The concept of an immortal soul entered Christianity through Greek philosophy and isn't directly taught in the Hebrew texts where the word for soul (nephesh) means "living being". Instead, the Bible emphasizes God as the sole immortal being, with humans receiving immortality through faith in Jesus Christ and the promise of a resurrection.
The human soul is not the human spirit. . .the topic now is the human spirit.
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Great books on sale....

Those books, truth in line with Scripture, from above (gift of God),
were "enjoyed" by small multitudes decades ago;........ but
only like entertainment it seems. Instead of lives being changed, instead of Christians repenting of their obvious sins exposed by the messages, they bragged about enjoying this or that book, patted one another on the back, and continue sinning without interruption .

There's a reason why The Holy Spirit led me unto those books by the older generations, they were closer to GOD than generations nowadays. The older generations had a firmer grasp on truth because they were more dependent on GOD.

That's what the generations nowadays are missing. They are all over the place with their teaching and supposed prophesying, and 9 times out of 10 they are predictively wrong.
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Fear, pain and hunger: The dire impact of shutting down USAID in Africa, leaving a vacuum for China and Russia

No. Now, moving on. This may sound crazy and absurd, but it is possible to say things that others may find hurtful out of love and compassion. Like a loving parent telling their child that they are disappointed with their decisions.

Being disappointed in a person's decision is different from saying "you are a bad person and are going to hell".

And that's not what "Go and sin no more" means, anyways, in the context of the pericope adulterae; it's not fundamentally about expressing disappointment. Disappointment would imply a position of judgement, which is not the point of Jesus' words. If he wanted to judge her, he could have easily done so, but he said "neither do I condemn you".

Is this why so many people in the left enjoy the thought of conservatives being killed, because they cannot handle constructive feedback?

I don't know what you are talking about. I don't enjoy the thought of anybody being killed. I think this says more about you than it does me.
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