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mourningdove~ · 2025-10-12T16:37:13-0500

ARBITER01 said:
Books by Watchman Nee and Lester Sumrall on the differences of the body, soul, and spirit are not even looked at today by most, and it's noticeable.

It's very noticeable to me that many Christians today do not know 'who' they are in Christ.

Even though I was born again decades ago, I somehow hadn't quite grasped the full understanding of what happens to us at the new birth ... when we become new creations in Christ ... our new spirit ... and how that relates to walking under the control of the Spirit the rest of our lives as Christians.

I accidentally caught a tv program last Spring where Andrew Wommack was teaching on "Spirit, Soul, & Body". While I don't agree with all that he teaches on some things, in this particular teaching series he explained the new birth ... our regeneration ... our new spirit ... in such a clear and simple way that I 'got it'! Praise the Lord! What a freeing revelation it is, when we understand what has happened to us at the new birth.

I was happy to see the recommendation here on the Jesse Penn-Lewis book, and I also discovered one by Lester Sumrall. Read them both. I appreciate the Watchman Nee recommendation. Thank you. I'll check to see what he has written on the subject.

Aryeh Jay · 2025-10-12T16:23:42-0500

I don't care who was the President, I just received my MEDBED card from the current President.

SavedByGrace3 · 2025-10-12T16:23:15-0500

It is funny reading these hand-wringing posts.
You do not seem to understand that most people do not believe all these accusations. They believe Trump more than they believe the MSM and the DNC.
They do not believe there was an actual insurrection on Jan 6. They see it as a joke. They think many of these prosecutions are bogus efforts by Democrats and lawfare. They have failed and rightly so. They see the left as desperate to the point of violence and assassinations. That is the perception of the left.
They see that the left has been incessant in their prosecution and persecution of Trump for over a decade. They see these efforts as desperation. Americans simply do not believe them anymore. Conservatives think they would do the same thing to all conservatives. They see the left as delusional and almost cultish in their anti-Trump beliefs and actions. At this point, all these accusations sound silly, and people are deaf to them.
Denying Trump's candidacy would be a an attack on Democracy, much like when they removed Biden from their own ticket and installed a candidate who did not receive a single vote in the primaries. But if that is the only way they can win, they will continue doing the same. Every single thing they are accusing the right and Trump of doing, they are doing themselves. Classic projection. We are happily looking forward to the complete failure of the attempt to retake the house next year. I think the republicans may even achieve the bulletproof super majority in Congress. And yet the left refuses to pull back the reins on the extreme left of their party, and instead continues to double down and get more extreme. So sad. A once great party is crumbling before our eyes, and they are putting all their hopes on lawfare, district court judges, name-calling, and bogus accusations. Just pure delusion. At this point, they are losing at every point. They are on the wrong side of every issue and have zero positive issues. It is all "orange man bad." You will not win with that. But don't let anyone discourage you from that approach! It will make it better for the conservatives, the patriots, families, faith, and, of course, Making America Great Again! You are cutting off your face to spite your nose.

1Tonne · 2025-10-12T16:21:46-0500

dms1972 said:
To refer to peoples reactions to Jesus (remember it was the Scribes and Pharisees who approached Christ to try and test him) is a rationalisation here.

I am not talking about the Scribes or Pharisees. I am talking about the world. He said, "The world .... hates me because I testify that its works are evil." John 7:7. So, if someone reacts badly because you are pointing out their sin, then remember that Jesus did the same, and the world hated Him too.

dms1972 said:
Sorry you need to build a connection with people, not ambush them. Leave it to other christian students on the campus to witness in word and deed and pray for them.

Jesus said, 'Go and preach the Gospel to all creation". He did not say, "Go and make a connection and then preach the Gospel to all creation."
I go into the parks and share the Gospel to total strangers and it only takes me 1 minute to make that connection so that I can get to a place where I can share the Gospel.
Sadly, too many Christians have made it a doctrine that we need to make a strong connection first. This then limits the amount we can share the Gospel.

dms1972 said:
You have to have the green light from the Holy Ghost to approach people.

Yes. Those of us who are filled with the Holy Spirit already have the green light to preach the Gospel to as many people as possible (Mark 16:15). The Holy Spirit was given not so that we would be quiet, but so that we would speak (Acts 1:8). Many times, in the bible we see time and time again, those who are filled with the Spirit spoke and they did not hold back.

"Often individuals will say, “I am willing to go, should God call me to go, in the meantime, I am going to stay.” What we need to do is go, but be willing to stay if God calls us to stay. God has already called us to go." Mark Spence

I find it strange that believers who are filled with the Holy Spirit keep so quiet about the wonderful sacrifice their saviour has made.

A New Dawn · 2025-10-12T16:16:41-0500

Colo Millz said:
“We can only say that the grace of God is so clear and decisive in Jesus Christ that it is not our task to set limits to it.”

- Karl Barth

Where in scripture does it state that God's desire is thwarted by mankind?

Universalism can only be discussed in the Controversial Christian Theology forum.

SabbathBlessings · 2025-10-12T16:11:52-0500

tdidymas said:
Who said Jesus told us to discard His laws?

that Christ took away all the law (including the 10 com.) that came between us and God,

God said:
Psa 19:7 The law of the Lord is perfect, [a]converting the soul;
The testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple;

The law is not what separated us from God, its the opposite breaking God's law which is sin.

Isa 59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

tdidymas said:
You're arguing against a phantom. But that's because you're obsessed with the "faith plus works" system.

I love Jesus John 14:15 1 John5:3 Exo 20:6 and obey Him not to be saved but its a consequence of salvation Rev 14:12 Sadly disobedience is rebellion, sin and unbelief Heb 3:7-19

NotreDame · 2025-10-12T16:06:58-0500

rambot said:
When they are just doing their job?

Well it seems I come across examples of this everyday...just crossed another one.

WATCH: ICE Sued After Videos Capture Pastor Shot With ‘Chemical Pellets’ at Peaceful Protest

I bet that pastor was attacking them or someth....
https://www.reddit.com/r/illinois/s/09n0juVcj3

If there are people having trouble understanding why people dislike how iCE is doing their work, I'm hoping folks will be willing to share some examples. I'll do my bit when I can.

I suspect some of the antipathy towards ICE is the shock of actual enforcement of immigration law by ICE, especially in cities where for many years or decades ICE enforcement was so negligible as to be invisible and unheard of in those cities.

Indeed, LA County Mayor said ICE “was not present” and “was not present for so long.” They simply were accustomed to minimal to invisible existence of ICE for a long time.

Hentenza · 2025-10-12T16:01:43-0500

Apple Sky said:
The firmament is massive, much larger than you could imagine, the image does not do it justice.

There is no firmament. The correct translation is expanse. There are billions if not trillions of stars in the universe so your idea of the size of your made up firmament would be hard pressed to hold them all. Of course you could say that the whole of the universe is the firmament but then you would have to agree that rockets can go to space and the moon.

Hans Blaster · 2025-10-12T16:00:09-0500

o_mlly said:
Self-evident claims do not require proof.

Self-evident claims also don't have large groups of people rejecting them.

o_mlly said:
All truths are beyond the thinking mind, as is the reality of all things. Those who believe in scientism, the dogmatic beleif that science is the only source of knowledge, are handicapped in the search for truth. They admit that any pretension on their part in grasping truth is impossible for them as all of their claims are merely provisional.

No one is arguing "because scientism (sic)". This is about the nature of morality.

o_mlly said:
However, "morality" is an idea, an object of thought, and not in the realm of phenomena perceived by the fallible senses. Debating objective ideas with those who are incurably addicted to the subjective sense of "ideas" cannot be profitable (as this thread demonstrates).

Ideas—the objects of thought—that we reflect upon when we start to philosophize, lie beyond the reach of sense perception. In debating morality we examine the grounds upon which moral claims may be judged either true or false. An appeal to a transcendent source for objective truth will always be beyond the handicapped mind of the materialist.

Justice Jackson appealed to the "transcendent" idea of justice at Nuremberg. Even though the Nazis had operated within their own (subjective) laws, their actions were still criminal because they violated fundamental (objective) principles of morality and justice that bind all people. Christians, like Jackson, make the same appeal to the Transcendent One.

The problem from my entry to this thread onward is and has been that I see no reason to trust any of the claimants to possessing absolute morality.

Michie · 2025-10-12T15:59:59-0500

Spain’s public broadcaster RTVE has apologized for a program that described the growth of Evangelical churches as “worrying” and portrayed them as “dangerous,” promising to handle religious issues with “the utmost care” following a wave of complaints from Evangelical organizations and viewers.

According to a report by Evangelical Focus, the controversy began after the Sept. 22 episode of RTVE’s afternoon program Directo al Grano aired a segment that singled out Evangelical churches, using footage of congregations without consent and presenting them in a negative light. The show referenced a pastor who was not representative of the wider evangelical community in Spain.

The segment prompted widespread criticism from individuals and Evangelical bodies, including the Federation of Religious and Evangelical Entities of Spain (FEREDE), which filed a formal complaint with the RTVE management.

Beatriz Ariño, the audience ombudswoman for RTVE, acknowledged viewers’ concerns and apologized in a letter sent to those who had complained. “We are very sorry for your disappointment, and we fully understand your anger,” she wrote, according to Evangelical Focus.

Continued below.

Spanish public broadcaster apologizes for calling growth of Evangelical churches ‘dangerous’

Spain s public broadcaster RTVE has apologized for a program that described the growth of Evangelical churches as worrying and portrayed them as dangerous

www.christianpost.com

bèlla · 2025-10-12T15:54:57-0500

@Richard T this is a tiny home development in Texas. He visited it a year ago and returned. I‘m including a few screenshots. He went inside several. Wow the thumbnail says it all. The house‘s width is a smidge more than the three of them combined.

MORE TINY HOMES IN TEXAS ARE SELLING OUT - IS THIS THE NEW AMERICAN DREAM OF HOME OWNERSHIP?

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Oompa Loompa · 2025-10-12T15:52:55-0500

FireDragon76 said:
I don't know what you are talking about. I

Sure you do. A YouGov poll showed that 24% of the left would celebrate the death of a political opponent.

Blade · 2025-10-12T15:52:37-0500

catzrfluffy said:
My boyfriend’s knee was really really badly injured a while back, he can walk again, but he’d like to be able to play sport again, please pray that God heals him completely and that he recovers completely and returns fully to how he was before the knee injury and can do everything and play sports again, agreeing in Jesus Christ’s name, Amen. Thank you.

Read Isa 53:5 or the whole chapter. Ist Peter 2:24 by His strips we were healed. Christ said lay hands on the sick they shall be healed. That means healed right then right now and it also can mean over time but will be totally healed. Peter and John at the gate after the man was healed the people were looking at them they said "why do you look at us as if we did this by our own power? That name faith in that name healed this man"

A known man of God setting at Chruch I believe but this woman was sitting next to him has MS. So he started to ask God for a word for her and nothing. So he asked again and saying come on God ..nothing. Third time he is starting to .. not happy and where are you GOD. He said to that God answered rebuking him saying "do you think I want this for her?" His right side .. like when you hit your elbow? But allover his right side.. his face.... and the woman next to him praise GOD started to say.. whats happening.. right then right there so many people there also she was healed of MS.

God said to Sarah as she laughed within her self He said "what is to hard for the lord". A song old but was to young girls it said "if you've done it and you wonder what to do...go to Jesus HE will make you brand new". Man can not but with God all things not some but all things are possible to them that believe. Just trying to build help your faith. There are more then two here that agree and if two shall agree.. He will do it. So pray believe with you for total healing.. no doubt no wonder no hope.. I can only share what I know.. in JESUS name ..now praise Him for what He has done.. HE said what so ever you desire when you pray believe you receive it you shall have it. Its the receive part.. He said by His strips you were Healed. Yeah thank Him.. He love you SOO Much

o_mlly · 2025-10-12T15:46:16-0500

johansen said:
I suspect it will take dozens of dead moms before the state requires catholic hospitals to manage care properly.

Are you an emergency room physician? If not then I don't think you are qualified to prescribe what is the proper care for pregnant women in need of emergency care.

bèlla · 2025-10-12T15:44:57-0500

Richard T said:
Wheat prices per bushel when adjusted for inflation are the lowest ever.

Thanks, I did not see that previously. Very interesting.

No problem. I have to show you the tiny home development. I’ll grab a screenshot and post the link on the money thread,

~bella

rambot · 2025-10-12T15:30:37-0500

Aldebaran said:
State officials aren't above the law. If they were, then what should we expect of local officials?

Presidents aren't supposed to be above the law in America either but that's just another way this supreme court has ruined the American experiment.

NotreDame · 2025-10-12T15:29:36-0500

Servus said:
I'm don't know why I wrote that. I may have intended it for different post.

Here, I got this from the OP: Title 10 of US Code.

Perfect. You’ve finally linked to Title 10. Now maybe a productive, engaging, intellectual dialogue and exchange of ideas can transpire regarding Admin cloaks and Title 10.

So, which part now of Title 10 supports Trump’s federalizing the NG and attempt to deploy the NG under Title 10?

Trump, Noem, Homan and Miller etc seem to see it differently. And it's their call, not mine.

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Yes, we are all well aware, absent you’re being one of those 4 people anonymously posting here, that “it’s their call, not mine.”

You aren’t being asked to proverbially “make the call.” Rather, your bias toward the Admin and deference to accepting as correct the Admin claims regarding Title 10, and your few remarks in defense of the Admin/Miller statements justifying invocation of Title 10 to federalize and delploy the NG into cities, has rightly led people to request of you an argument that the Admin and Miller’s comments regarding Title 10 are correct.

iluvatar5150 · 2025-10-12T15:15:34-0500

Servus said:
Those who know it's the usual cut in democrat funded waste, bloat, misappropriation, corruption etc, are okay with it.

You know a lot about the cdc, do ya?

hldude · 2025-10-12T15:14:12-0500

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“Trying To Impress Or Being Genuine?”
Hebrews 11:6 NIV
And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.

A few weeks ago, I had my 6 month dental cleaning checkup. As I prepared and flossed and brushed my teeth before going in, it brought back some funny memories of when I was a kid and how I prepared for my check ups. I wasn’t always great at taking care of my teeth as I liked to eat a lot of candy. I’m sure I didn’t brush twice a day and didn’t brush the best when I did brush. I also didn’t floss on a regular basis. The day of my dentist appts, I would usually brush my teeth really good and hoped that the dentist would be impressed.

As you can imagine, as they cleaned and examined my teeth, I would usually hear all the reports of what I wasn’t doing and how I needed to do it better. I thought by just brushing really hard before my dental appt, that would be good enough. Nope! Years later now with numerous cavities and crowns, I’ve learned that I really need to take better care of my teeth. My dental visits now are not as bad as they used to be, yet I often fear they will find something that is bad and needs fixed.

I think we treat our spiritual lives a lot like this. We don’t always take the greatest care of our walk with God. I think sometimes we feel like if we show up to church and put in some time, we look good to God and to others. Just like my quick brushing attempts before going to the dentist when I was younger, we often think we can impress God and pretend with Him, but we can’t.

We can sometimes fool other people for a period of time, but we never can fool God. I think He often shakes His head in sadness and heartbreak seeing what we do to try to make ourselves look good, but what He truly wants is us being honest and doing our best to be genuine.

Is our desire just to try to impress God and others when we show up Sunday for church and maybe for a small group bible study through the week to look good, or are we striving to take the time each day to grow closer to Him in a very intentional and genuine manner?

I know that I often fail in my attempts to be genuine with God and in being intentional in my walk with Him. He desires for all of us to be intentional and to truly desire time with Him. He wants our all and not just various times where we try to impress Him.

I hope and pray that our desire each day is to truly be genuine and intentional to grow in our faith.

sfs · 2025-10-12T15:00:19-0500

ronlion said:
Hi Sfs, pardon my delay. It is generally known that Maxwell did not believe in Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection.

Hi ronlion, thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, lots of thing are generally known that turn out not to be true. Presumably, if the widespread belief is correct, it should be based on some available evidence.

ronlion said:
I read it in a letter of James Maxwell that I cannot find right now(but I give a MIT link where you will find the primary sources.)

I can't find anything in Ian Hutchinson's piece that supports the idea that Maxwell rejected Darwin. Can you point to anything? The only mention of evolution I see would tend to point in the opposite direction.

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bèlla · 2025-10-12T14:58:14-0500

Sketcher said:
Since he's famous, there is a very real possibility that it's completely made up.

I don’t know if it was debunked and they reported a few days prior about a date who he reserved a floor within Trump Tower for. He’s 19 and a student at NYU. Anything’s possible at that age.

~bella

NxNW · 2025-10-12T14:55:06-0500

Servus said:
Since the left-wing supports Hamas that shouldn't be a complaint from them.

Pretty early in the thread to make making up stuff.

Chesterton · 2025-10-12T14:50:03-0500

The Liturgist said:
That said I’m not a huge fan of Grok 3 compared to its competitors from chatGPT - it was faster but had a number of limitations. However in all fairness I have not had a chance to evaluate Grok 4.

Fair enough, but you do know I was speaking of politics rather than technical proficiency, right?

d taylor · 2025-10-12T14:20:45-0500

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What should people expect from people who are producing children to either get a check, they are 14, 15, 16, etc.. years old, they are on drugs and trading sex for drugs or all of the above

Do you really think these people are worried or care how these children are going to grow up.

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