Michie said:

But they identify as socialist. Look it up.

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That has nothing to do with Democratic Socialism. Look it up.

Fervent said:

Sometimes I don't, but usually I remind myself that the solemnity is not in my performance but in the testament to God's faithfulness. My understanding of the text in question is that the unworthy manner was because they were missing the fellowship that the Lord's Supper speaks to, through their flagrant injustices towards one another.

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Exactly—Corinth’s problem was love-less greed, not quiet doubts.
I’m with you: the solemnity rests on God’s faithfulness, not my pulse-rate.
Humility still matters—too many services rush the moment and it’s gone; I wish we’d slow it down and let people reflect.
May these shared moments be received in the same grace they were given—humble, honest, and anchored to Christ’s finished work alone.

I’m feeling a year older, and all that goes with it. I feel like I don’t want to do much. But when there is something it gets done. I have a very quiet life and it’s very enjoyable. I feel the Life still surging. Gods love is still there, it needs expressing. Fall wasn’t long enough, spring is far away. Some people hibernate for winter and I sleep and will sit by the fire this winter and I will pray and spring will sprang. Hope will continue God willing.

ThatRobGuy said:

When you consider the vast library of Hitler quotes from various long & laborious speeches (that were scattershot across a myriad of subjects), is it perhaps too easy of a jab to take to merely find "resemblances"?

Overlap in policy & rhetoric doesn't necessarily mean perfect overlap in terms ideological agreement.

"America for Americans" and "France is for the French" existed before Hitler.

And Hitler made quotes about vegetarianism and animal welfare, and I'm sure we could find some "similar sounding" rhetoric between his statements and that of PETA. That wouldn't mean PETA (or the animal rights movement more broadly) should be linked with a propensity for Nazism.


And one certainly doesn't have to be a Nazi to hold the position that fundamentalist Islam is incompatible with Westernized society.

And that's a bidirectional opinion for that matter... Many in the west feel that way... and many Fundamentalist Muslims in the Middle East also feel that their religious ideology and the "excesses of the West" are incompatible.


I'd bet dollars to donuts that at some of those anti-Israel protests that were happening at Harvard, there were probably a lot of things being shouted and written on signs that we could probably track down some overlap with.

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Also when I read the words 'blood and soil' Hitler was the furthest from my mind in relation to American history of fighting for anti slavery and the principles of freedoms and democracy.

They certainly fought and spilt blood on their own soil and that soil produced one of the worlds greatest democracies which gave us freedoms.

But to then equate all this as Nazi is actually the injection of Woke ideologues who turn absolutely everything into being about identity groups. One identity group oppressing another. This isa common MO of the ideologues. They have been calling Trump and his supporters Nazis for 10 years now lol.

Thats why I reckon don't even engage. If you try to defend or talk reason it does not work. This is about ideological beliefs and not objective reality. You can never win. State your beliefs and views when required and don't buy in. Tell the truth when required but don't buy in.

Theres too much fake news in this modern tech world. Too much whitenoise. Too many dark forces at work that will consume you.
Walk away and come back another day. Things may change. But no one will ever win in the culture war and buying in is the fuel that keeps it going.

For a Christian its unbeatable. Just speak the truth and leave it at that. If people don't like it so be it. You can't change them, only God.

Freth said:

"Also, consuming fire." In addition to.

"For our God is a consuming fire." is referring to both His countenance (Exodus 24:17, Revelation 1:16, Revelation 19:11-16) and His wrath (Jeremiah 4:4, Revelation 6:15-17, Revelation 19:21). His countenance is like the sun. A CME isn't necessary. Fire and brimstone from heaven comes after the thousand year reign of Christ (2 Peter 3:7, Revelation 20:7-9).

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Isaiah 30:26, specifically mentions the sun as causing all the graphically Prophesied things. A CME is a one day event; the blast carries on into outer space.
The Lords terrible Day of wrath, must be a natural event, so as the ungodly people can continue in their rejection of God.

Emoji faces are so cute ☺️

Breeding season

Delvianna said:

Don't negate the promise to Abraham of the "seed" which will never die which means ethnic Jews (biological descendants of Abraham). We don't replace Israel, as Paul says, we gentiles are grafted in. The original branches are still there and will always be.

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Jesus said: I know you are descended from Abraham....If you really were Abrahams children, you would act as Abraham did. John 8:37-40
Paul said: .....it is those with faith who share the Blessings with Abraham. Galatians 3:6-9 and - If you belong to Christ, then you are a child of Abraham

All the natural branches were cut off the Olive Tree of Jesus and only a few became Christians and got grafted back, then and still today. That remnant will join with their brethren, as a small minority of Gods peoples. The rest of the apostate Jews, are just the same as every other ungodly people and will share their fate. Isaiah 6:11-13, Luke 19:27

Akita Suggagaki said:

...But this is a good place to practice virtue.

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I feel the same, too.
It's better than many other forums (to practice virtue), even pagan ones---Unbelievable.

bob121 said:

Fervent, that momentary “Am I even doing this right?” ( I have the same go through my mind ) pause is the danger-light Paul talks about—thanks for naming it.
What helps you push through the “ordinary” feeling and actually take the bread and cup anyway?

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Sometimes I don't, but usually I remind myself that the solemnity is not in my performance but in the testament to God's faithfulness. My understanding of the text in question is that the unworthy manner was because they were missing the fellowship that the Lord's Supper speaks to, through their flagrant injustices towards one another.

I think we'd have to define what it means to keep the Sabbath in order for anyone to answer this question, especially in identifying how certain restrictions that are set out in the Bible apply to modern life. Is using electricity causing a fire to be lit? How about driving a car that uses internal combustion in its engine? Is carrying a Bible against the restriction on carrying? And what of the other 30 some categories of work that were forbidden by the Jews on the Sabbath? What do we mean when we say "keep the Sabbath"?

Fervent said:

For me, every time we take communion I have a momentary pause where I question whether I am eating in a worthy manner. It is especially strong on those days when I am just going through the motions and don't feel emotionally connected to the worship or my relationship with Christ in general. Those days, it all just feels so ordinary and I wonder if I am feeling an appropriate sense of awe and gratitude.

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Fervent, that momentary “Am I even doing this right?” ( I have the same go through my mind ) pause is the danger-light Paul talks about—thanks for naming it.
What helps you push through the “ordinary” feeling and actually take the bread and cup anyway?

For me, every time we take communion I have a momentary pause where I question whether I am eating in a worthy manner. It is especially strong on those days when I am just going through the motions and don't feel emotionally connected to the worship or my relationship with Christ in general. Those days, it all just feels so ordinary and I wonder if I am feeling an appropriate sense of awe and gratitude.

Yarddog said:

I've never had a negative experience with the Eucharist. I have received miraculous healing though.

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That’s beautiful—healing at the table is a powerful testimony. Thanks for sharing it, YardDog.

It's never been without risk, since you never know how some random person will react. But are you suggesting that it has somehow become more dangerous? How many street preachers have faced reprocutions, and how does it compare to people who generally make spectacles of themselves in public?(i tried to phrase that less provocatively, but I couldn't quite figure out how to phrase it appropriately)

com7fy8 said:

While I was a Catholic, I had the moment >

"I'm not sure the Eucharist is really the body of Jesus; and if it isn't, I can't take it."

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Thank you for that honest one-liner—what a weighty moment. Grace to you.

I was speaking to a friend about vows of silence. Why people use to take vows of silence like Monks or were generally more quiet and said less as church leaders. Clement of Rome I think mentions how the Elders were of quiet disposition and how this was Christlike. That it was their example that spoke for them.

Paul mentions that it was his reputation for exampling Christ that the church knew he represented the truth. They did not need rationalisations as they could tell by his Christlikeness. When he did speak he was taken seriously and respected. Like many of the early leaders. There was a unity behind the Elders because everyone was unified in Christ. They could recognise the signs.

Whereas today with all the whitenoise of modern rationalisations and even false facts and narratives appealing to feelings. Its hard to tell. We have to stop and listen and try and block out all that white noise to know the spirit and the good fruits.

2PhiloVoid said:

Y'know, with the way the world is, one would think Christians would see the need to unite together for mutual support and encouragement rather than wrangle over certain points of the faith ad infinitum. But I guess I hope for too much.

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No you don't hope too much. For God nothing is impossible and I believe He does not allow for His church to go for too long without a correction.

It will come and I think its beginning now. Just like in society we have witnessed some horrible and hateful stuff. As a response I think good Christians will reflect and be reproved and rise up. Its like every action will have an equal and opposite reaction.

But this won't be any human made rising up. This will be Gods spirit at work being poured out on the world.

Hans Blaster said:

And where is there only 10% Muslim population where this has happened?

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Not specifically Muslim, but major political changes in general tend to break down to 10% on one side, 10% on the other, and 80% who are simply worried about their day to day living and can't be bothered with bigger issues.

Hans Blaster said:

Oh great, another poster who doesn't know how liberal & progressives aren't leftists. You need to get a leftist to explain it to you.

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You're splitting hairs, and seem to be invoking a bit of a no true scotsman thing.

Hans Blaster said:

So it would seem.

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Yes so now you can understand that after a while you begin to dismiss the objectors out of hand. That regardless of what they present its already tarnished with bias. Its a disqualifier and people don't believe them anymore.

Hans Blaster said:

There is an aphorism: "If everyone you meet is a jerk, then maybe you are the jerk."

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Of that sites like this attract skeptics who gather on certain posts piling on those who disagree. A bit like when a Christian is battling several atheists over how deluded Christians are. lol. It happens all the time. These social media sites are designed to create such a situation.

Once again using a logical fallacy of consensus and authority. Do you think when atheists gang up on Christians that somehow the atheists have some knockdown rational, logical and scientific evidence to win. No they are their to deride Christian belief and religion because of their own belief. We all have metaphysical beliefs. Fundementally is a battle of those beliefs and nothing factual.

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The equivalent here is that if every source you choose is a called a crank, then maybe you are only reading crank sites.

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I am pretty sure I linked peer review and images that to most people is abvious. Yet people cannot bring themselves to even speak the words as to what they see lol. This is more telling than any peer reviewed paper as to where people are at.

When great men like Petrie and Christ King are made out to be nut jobs and old men who know nothing for the pure motive of disxrediting them because they find a contradictory evidence or conslusion. Then I know the thread has deteriorated and no matter who or what I present its going to be rejected out of hand.

BelieveItOarKnot said:

You seem to be stuck in complication and self justifications land dan

"-everyone who loves knows God and is born of God" capital word spellings not required, but I like the bold

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And in. 1 John 5;18. SAYS that. whosoever is BORN. OF GOD. SINNETH NOT // OV. is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE

AND. that means you can NOT EVER SIN. , and you say you never EVER SIN. ??

# A Is this for TODAY. ??

# B Is it for the FOR THE BODY of CHRIST. ??

# C Is it for ISAREL. , yes it is for Israel , in. the GREAT TRIBULATION. !!

dan p

I love my engagement ring. I designed it. I would still like to wear it. But I just do not know if it would feel right doing so. Therefore, I totally get where you are coming from with this.

Servus said:

The left comes up with one scandal after the other.

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Is this a case of a political double slit experiment where observation is somehow causal?