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Say it aint so · 2025-11-14T07:16:51-0600

rjs330 said:
Irrelevant. Russiagate was not about simply having contacts with Russians. The fact they lied about it was stupid. And they deserved whatever they got. But there was never anything shown to have occurred for the reasons the investigation began in the first place. In other words. Russia gate was a hoax.

The US is appraised by one of it's fellow Five Eye nations that a Trump official is making known his connections with Russians, Russia's willingness to help the campaign, and the officials willingness to be receptive to that help. Then he lies to the FBI about. So either the FBI ignores it all, or it investigates the matter. To say that is not a premise of investigation is just false. The IG report of the investigation came to the same conclusion.

wing2000 · 2025-11-14T07:10:40-0600

....they finally figured that out?

Scott Bessent, the Treasury secretary, said on Fox News Wednesday that the administration would be making “substantial” announcements about tariff exemptions over the next few days, saying that they would target “things we don’t grow here.”

He named coffee, bananas and other fruits. “So that will bring the prices down very quickly,” he said.

...it seems the administration is finally admitting that tariffs increase prices.

The Trump administration is preparing broad exemptions to certain tariffs in an effort to ease elevated food prices that have provoked anxiety for American consumers, according to three people briefed on the actions.

The change would apply to certain reciprocal tariffs the president announced in April, including on products coming from countries that have not struck trade deals with the administration, the people said, discussing a pending announcement on the condition of anonymity.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/13/us/politics/trump-tariffs-food-prices.html

Strong in Him · 2025-11-14T07:09:33-0600

Phil G said:
So it all boils down to your belief which goes against actual facts and nothing else.

That's why it has to be only a belief - the truth can be proved with facts.

Strong in Him · 2025-11-14T07:07:47-0600

Apple Sky said:
If you say so.

I thought you possessed/used logic?

Watch the news - there are a few wars in the world. If, or when, they stop there will be huge rebuilding programmes to replace all the homes/hospitals/schools that have been destroyed.
Some countries suffer from poverty, earthquakes, floods or droughts. Some are dealing with internal rebellions, unrest, change of leadership, scandals etc. Some countries are in massive debt; some may be bankrupt.
And you think that their leaders have time/money/energy to work out if photographs taken over 50 years ago were faked?

wing2000 · 2025-11-14T07:06:09-0600

Servus said:
So this sort of thing has happened before. Therefore there's no reason to become unhinged over it.

Has it? A president just decided to offer $2,000 checks for no other reason than to provide relief for tariff policies that he single-handily implemented?

DaisyDay · 2025-11-14T07:03:51-0600

The Barbarian said:
When it was revealed that the republicans had cut security for embassies, over the objections of Hillary Clinton, the whole conspiracy fell apart.

And yet, the "investigations" continued...

Say it aint so · 2025-11-14T07:03:02-0600

Servus said:
You don't understand. Russiagate was a joke. A colossal production that turned out to be a nothingburger. Epsteingate will likely amount to nothing more than theater as well.

Russiagate was not a joke. The Trump admin was working directly and indirectly with Russians for the benefit of their campaign.

wing2000 · 2025-11-14T07:00:55-0600

rjs330 said:
Not at all. If you were in a place where known mobsters were and there was a raid I would expect you would be picked up too and detained until it was determi ed you were not part of the mob.

....sure, tell us about the many Americans who were detained when the mob was robbing banks back in the day.

I'll leave you with this:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

...except, apparently, if you are hispanic looking and shop at hispanic grocery stores.

Say it aint so · 2025-11-14T07:00:47-0600

durangodawood said:
I think you mean incompetence drives the bus. (Because, generally, competence has a lot to lose signing on to this corrupt clown show.)

Yes. fixed. thanks

Postvieww · 2025-11-14T06:57:39-0600

What is it about that fact that entering this country illegally is a crime that many liberals just can’t understand? What is it about rogue judges who hate Trump who use their power for their own political whims that many liberals just can’t understand. Rouge judges who have disgraced their oaths are a big part of the problem

A Harvard Law Review dataset (covering injunctions since 1963, through 2023) found 127 nationwide injunctions in total — 64 of those were issued against policies of the Trump administration and 63 were issued against all other presidents. This is a disgrace on many of the rogue judges who have lost their way and let hatred of Trump control their decisions.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-14T06:56:58-0600

Phil G said:
Don’t you realise that in order to be believed you need to have at least strong evidence for your claims?

And the problem is that, not only do you not have evidence for a variety of claims, the evidence points to the opposite of your claims.

So it all boils down to your belief which goes against actual facts and nothing else.

So ..........

Apple Sky · 2025-11-14T06:55:57-0600

I only read non-fiction but I do watch funny videos. ^_^

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Richard T · 2025-11-14T06:49:25-0600

Servus said:
Surely Bannon knows that Trump can pardon him and others from future prosecution for past crimes, the way Joe Biden did for his son Hunte

The Barbarian said:

"As God is my witness, if we lose the midterms and we lose 2028, some in this room are going to prison, myself included. They're not going to stop."

‘Some in This Room Are Going to Prison – Myself Included’: Bannon Predicts Grim Fate for Himself If Democrats Win Upcoming Elections

Steve Bannon told a hall full of conservatives that if Democrats win the 2026 midterm elections and the presidency in 2028, some of them will go to prison, including him.

www.yahoo.com

The last time, he defrauded Trump's followers, but Trump pardoned him. No pardons this time. And now he's facing the reality.

Click to expand...

There is a theme I am sensing. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Both sides have legitimate and political prosecutions. We are seeing both. It will flip back to the GOP being prosecuted. It seems like it is God's plan to rid government of corruption. We might go back and forth until the voters can learn to pick leaders of good character that are not self-serving.
The GOP will lose because the economy is failing and Trump's policies have hurt major groups of voters such as SNAP and Obama recipients, federal employees, farmers and ranchers, and everyone who hurts from tariffs. Not too mention certain immigrant groups. 2000 rebates or other vote buying will not be enough. I have said before: Why did God never target Obama or Biden with all the unfortunate stuff? Because God judges the church and not nations is my answer I settled on. Many in the church entered politics and compromised their mission and character. We failed because humility always comes before restoration and renewal. No one represents the love of money more than Trump and many Christians have bought into that. Can you see change coming? It will better.

Maria Billingsley · 2025-11-14T06:47:09-0600

jonojim1337 said:
The archtypical Pharisee is everywhere around us. It’s interesting that Christ did spend a good part of his ministry exposing these people, explaining their doom. And just like Abraham said, if they do not believe the words of Moses, neither will they believe if one rises from the dead.

They’re good at trying one’s patience and faith. Is that the only reason why they’re here?

Depends on how one defines the characteristics and teachings of a modern day Pharisee. I would define them as religious, powerful, political, influential, legalist, tradition driven, self righteous and most of all hypocritical. Fortunately, none of these characteristics describe a Christian. That said, why would one come even close to trying your patience and faith?
Perhaps one is being tested. Stay, the course and put on the full armor of God.

Be blessed.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-14T06:46:46-0600

Strong in Him said:
The governments of the world and powers that be have nothing better to worry about than how to deceive people into believing something which doesn't matter.

If you say so.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-14T06:45:15-0600

Phil G said:
But you see that’s the problem. Making statements and claims is not going to convince anyone except the gullible.

Oh well (shrug)

Strong in Him · 2025-11-14T06:44:22-0600

Apple Sky said:
I have tried, but what they have cleverly done is to make sure that original photo cannot be be uploaded to FotoForensics.

Oh dear; "they" strike again.

Of course, everything is one big plot, or conspiracy theory, isn't it?
The governments of the world and powers that be have nothing better to worry about than how to deceive people into believing something which doesn't matter.

The Barbarian · 2025-11-14T06:41:59-0600

David Lamb said:
There are baptist churches, but no such thing as the Baptist Church. I have never come across a baptist church that is only interested in getting people saved. That's important, but once saved, it is important that the church members care for one another.

Most Baptists I know are pretty good Christians, and personal experience is that they do follow Jesus' teachings.

Jerry N. · 2025-11-14T06:41:15-0600

Apple Sky said:
I don't think Copernicus wanted to deceive anyone.

I reckon his hand was forced & they made him into this guy who would became responsible for Heliocentricism.

At about 1532, Copernicus had basically completed his work on the manuscript of Dē revolutionibus orbium coelestium; but despite urging by his closest friends, he resisted openly publishing his views, not wishing—as he confessed—to risk the scorn "to which he would expose himself on account of the novelty and incomprehensibility of his theses.

Toward the close of 1542, Copernicus was seized with apoplexy and paralysis, and he died at age 70 on 24 May 1543. Legend has it that he was presented with the final printed pages of his Dē revolutionibus orbium coelestium on the very day that he died, allowing him to take farewell of his life's work.[q] He is reputed to have awoken from a stroke-induced coma, looked at his book, and then died peacefully.

De Revolutionibus Orbium Coelestium was published in 1543. The first edition of this work by Nicolaus Copernicus was printed in Nuremberg, Germany, shortly before his death. Copernicus died in May 1543.

Nicolaus Copernicus - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Thank you for the nice reply, but I don't think he could have been forced by anyone.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-14T06:40:19-0600

Phil G said:
What evidence, apart from saying “I reckon” do you have for such a statement, and who are the “they”?

None I suppose, only from what I've read.

Nicolaus Copernicus - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Jerry N. · 2025-11-14T06:37:51-0600

It hurts not to be believed, but the internet has made it easier to prove or disprove claims in some ways. A few years ago, I still kept a flock of sheep. One night, my dog was making a big fuss and actually broke the gate to the pasture. (She was a very big dog.) I got up and walked out to the pasture about half a kilometer. There was no moon. The problem was a herd of wild pigs. Anyway, I looked at the beautiful sky and saw the lights of the space station. Nobody believed me until I researched the location of the space station that night and proved it was right over my location. It was the only time I had ever seen a real satellite, and it looked just like the photos others had taken and put on the internet.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-14T06:34:31-0600

Strong in Him said:
What test do you suggest and how would you go about doing it?

I have tried, but what they have cleverly done is to make sure that original photo cannot be be uploaded to FotoForensics.

rocknanchor · 2025-11-14T06:34:26-0600

What a trajectory of error it is to turn one’s back on the Holy Spirit’s choice of words for each of us “not to think more highly of himself than he ought”(Rom 12:3). Not only for the flock of God to heed, but OS who take part to exceed DO.

For that is all that is required is to take part in the dismantling spiritual communion, AKA: dreadful quench of the Holy Spirit. Making it easy to sow the needed discord to garner more and more disciples. Spirit of Christ, recover in ourselves to forgive thoughts that has done this.

Just as the Apostle said following such actions, “when you come together, it is not the Lord’s Supper you eat”. Behold what ease of calamity we grant from you guessed it, from error-strapped OS.

How oft-comes the rebuttal; ‘the gates, the gates of hell are nowhere in overcoming sight!’ Oblivious, neither is the awareness, neither is the sensitivity to hear when it slams against a spiritually dull eardrum.

Revelation’s harlot, Babylon, does corrupt all, including the regular churched to welcome error when care is not upheld, to which God tells his own to reward her double to all she has rewarded you. DH (Double Honor) and DD (Double Dishonor).

Apple Sky · 2025-11-14T06:29:38-0600

Jerry N. said:
Why would Nicolaus Copernicus want to deceive anybody?

I don't think Copernicus wanted to deceive anyone.

I reckon his hand was forced & they made him into this guy who would became responsible for Heliocentricism.

At about 1532, Copernicus had basically completed his work on the manuscript of Dē revolutionibus orbium coelestium; but despite urging by his closest friends, he resisted openly publishing his views, not wishing—as he confessed—to risk the scorn "to which he would expose himself on account of the novelty and incomprehensibility of his theses.

Toward the close of 1542, Copernicus was seized with apoplexy and paralysis, and he died at age 70 on 24 May 1543. Legend has it that he was presented with the final printed pages of his Dē revolutionibus orbium coelestium on the very day that he died, allowing him to take farewell of his life's work.[q] He is reputed to have awoken from a stroke-induced coma, looked at his book, and then died peacefully.

De Revolutionibus Orbium Coelestium was published in 1543. The first edition of this work by Nicolaus Copernicus was printed in Nuremberg, Germany, shortly before his death. Copernicus died in May 1543.

Nicolaus Copernicus - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Richard T · 2025-11-14T06:25:30-0600

Anonymous9090 said:
Pray that Jesus Christ leads Christian pastor, priests, & all people in Christian ministries to Denounce the use of AI technology as a significant other, therapist, shrink, etc.:

https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2025/11/11/the-promise-and-the-perils-of-using-ai-for-therapy

Yes, denounce as needed by all Christians in leadership and by other faiths as well for any evil, sinful or misguided purpose. I pray too that for most ai will not be a stumbling block but rather a blessing when used in good practice.

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