Always in His Presence said:

Always happy to inform:

menace - definition:
menace /mĕn′ĭs/

noun​

1. A possible danger; a threat.
   "a careless driver who was a menace to public safety."
2. The quality of being threatening.
   "a hint of menace in his voice."
3. A troublesome or annoying person.
   "considered her little brother to be a menace."

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I'm familiar with the various definitions of the word. Context clues should make it clear which one is being used in this thread.

Hell is cast into Hell ??

Revelation 20:14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.​

Postvieww said:

By implying there have been illegal orders or may be in the future which is ridiculous.

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Given that Trump is a criminal, it's perfectly reasonable.

JohnB445 said:

It taught me not to fear death, that death is not the ending but will be a beginning of an eternity in paradise.

And that a gruesome end doesn't mean that God wasn't with us. God doesn't promise us a peaceful death in a hospital bed surrounded by loved ones, we could be eaten by a shark for all we know, or get into a bad car accident.

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It taught me death is a dormant sleep and that there is no "eternal burning place" .... how much suffering we may or may not go through is unknown but Jesus will be with us through it all.

No reason to fear death.

Belk said:

No, it does not. If it did then the exact same message that is included in every military recruits training would plant the seed.

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Wrong !!! The unbiased military training is not comparable to leadership who by their history of berating Trump cannot possibly have totally unbiased motives.

Belk said:

No, that was not their intent. I don't think you are capable of discerning their intent as you are to far from what their reality is.

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Wrong again! These partisan politicians have repeatedly shown their biases. It appears to me it is you who is far from any reality on this topic.

timothyu said:

It worked as a tool for the institutional church for centuries, and failing that, there was always burning at the stake to maintain order.

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I take this to mean you don't believe in a literal Hell? Are you saying it's a scare tactic invented by church leaders to maintain order?

NxNW said:

Trump let the shooter in.

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In 2021?

I will give a somber anecdote to support the idea that dreams reveal the future. My girlfriend and I used to share our dreams to each other. I just remembered a dream that she had shared nearly one year before she passed away. I even have the dream in text, so I'm not filling the blanks in. She wrote: "I dreamed that I was running late to catch a train but I made it, then when I got off my stop I realized I wasn't wearing any shoes". Some background: when she had this dream, she was not a Christian. Neither of us really knew what to make of this dream at the time, but I am almost certain I know what the dream was about now. She became a believer late into her life, and only got baptized 4 months before he passing. Almost exactly a year after having this dream, she was running late while biking to work and wasn't paying attention to her surroundings, as she had earbuds in and was listening to music. It was the worst day of my life. She passed away that day, but I take solace that it was likely instant and she did not expect it coming. Her mother told me she was excited to see me that day, as I lived 3 hours away from her. I take comfort in that God gave her a merciful death. I interpret the "running late" to mean both that she was running late to work and that she was running late to salvation. I believe the train in the dream revealed what would happen to her. As for not wearing any shoes: I think it is profound that she only realized she was missing the shoes after she had caught the train. She wouldn't need any shoes where she is going (Exodus 3:5). I have also had weird dreams since her passing. We gave each other a stuffed animal named after each other. Just a few days ago I had a dream where the two stuffed animals were sewn together in a crazy Toy Story Sid type of way, it was a little scary. The part of my stuffed animal was missing a left hand, though, and the stuffing was visible. I think this means that we will be one flesh in heaven, I will end up with a severed hand one day; or possibly that my hand is causing me to sin, and I should cut it off

Stopped_lurking said:

Have you ever waited to use anyone's pronouns until after they have revealed their sex to you? Unless you work in a fertility clinic that is highly unlikely. In theory it might happen, I guess. My contention is that that the social construct of gender, influence pronoun use more than biological sex. At least, that is my experience.

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Social construct of gender? A majority of people are what they appear to be, they aren’t trying to deceive or trick others. Gender roles themselves are a social construct, gender expectations, yes. Gender itself? I’m on the fence.

RamiC said:

There are varied theories on that.

Are you saying that you believe that only those guilty of the unforgiveable sin go to hell?

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Since I don’t know what that sin is precisely, I don’t know. I just know the Lord says that there is an unforgiven sin (referring to Matthew 12:30-37).

DaisyDay said:

2 National Guard members dead after shooting near White House: West Virginia governor

Two National Guardsmen are in critical condition after being shot near the White House.

abcnews.go.com

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Two National Guard members are dead after being shot in downtown Washington near the White House, according to West Virginia Gov. Patrick Morrisey.​

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"It is with great sorrow that we can confirm both members of the West Virginia National Guard who were shot earlier today in Washington, DC have passed away from their injuries. These brave West Virginians lost their lives in the service of their country. We are in ongoing contact with federal officials as the investigation continues," Morrisey said.​

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"Our entire state grieves with their families, their loved ones, and the Guard community. West Virginia will never forget their service or their sacrifice, and we will demand full accountability for this horrific act," Morrisey said.​

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Not much is known yet. Thoughts and prayers, for whatever that is worth.

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Recent news reports say the two are in critical condition

What we know about the 2 National Guard members shot near White House

Dreyma said:

If it were true, it would certainly erase my fears about not being saved and suffering excruciating torture for eternity...

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It worked as a tool for the institutional church for centuries, and failing that, there was always burning at the stake to maintain order.

Stopped_lurking said:

And what about the kiss example?

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We aee talking about trans kids. Being trans is a serious mental illness. Kissing a same sex kid is not.

Stopped_lurking said:

Why?

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Because thats what they are. If you want to use rheir preferred pronouns then do that.

Stopped_lurking said:

They are not. I haven't ever checked anyone's sex chromosomes or gametes before using a pronoun. Have you?

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I've never needed to. I haven't been wrong yet and been doing it for a really long time..

Stopped_lurking said:

It's no lie.

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Yes it is. They are not the opposite sex.

Stopped_lurking said:

Neither does pronouns.

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Yes they do.

Stopped_lurking said:

It is all convention, there are languages with gender neutral pronouns in addition to gendered ones.

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Irrelevant. Most languages have male and female pronouns when referring to males and females as a biological.sex.

Stopped_lurking said:

There are also languages where pronouns are not gendered.

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We don't have that. But feel free to use preferred pronouns, I'm not for forcing someone not to.

BPPLEE said:

Yeah blame Trump. Not the person who shot them.

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Trump let the shooter in.

Sabbath blessings, your arguments from scripture would have more weight if I were arguing for the abolishment of the Sabbath. That is not true. I say with the Apostles and New Testament scripture that the Sabbath has been fulfilled in Christ Jesus

Do you have any apostolic teaching where they tell us we must continue to keep the Jewish sabbath? If not, then you are speaking of your own inference on the scriptures.
Should we obey Apostles or the inferences of those that claim to be Apostles?

I have read the book From Sabbath to Sunday that was recommended to me by Bob Ryan.
In it, I find no concrete Apostolic teaching that uses Scripture as you do. There are plenty of negative critiques of Iraneus, Justin Martyr and other first and second century Church fathers, but no Apostle can be recorded claiming Christians must worship on the Sabbath


Do you know of or have any such teaching?

The council of Jerusalem in the book of Acts does not even mention the Sabbath. To you, it is the implied, but the Apostles and early Church Fathers contradict that assessment. Why is that?

Lukaris said:

I mean that if someone is guilty of the unforgivable sin then where else will they end up but in hell?

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Well, the theory posited by OP is that they do not "end up" anywhere but are instead destroyed.

I would agree with you, though. I think Hell is a real place.

RamiC said:

How can I know if I am saved? | GotQuestions.org

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I'm sad to say I have read this article and many others like it before.

To answer the questions posed there:
I have not repented of my sins. I'm no longer the person I used to be (in a sense), but that's because I've become more sinful and doubtful with age. If the Holy Spirit is in me, I see no inward or outward evidence of that. I rarely read the Bible outside of church, and I don't obey its commands as I ought. I don't share the gospel because my fear of being judged is greater than my love for others.

Given all of that, I would say the obvious answer is: No, I'm still dead in my sin.

Hvizsgyak said:

And those cultures usually killed those types of people. At least here and now, we don't kill people (thank God). We tolerate it to a certain degree and allow the person to live their fantasy. We just ask that they don't shove it in the public face and demand idiotic things like letting them use bathrooms of their preferred choice and trying to indoctrinate the youth of our culture. Keep it on the down-low. It has been working very well in most countries (including here in the US)

I (and millions of others) feel this is a very generous solution. Take it before it is off the table.


Most students borrow the money to go to these mainly public colleges (alot of it is from tax payer dollars). Just because the majority may want this garbage taught to them, we, as a society, should be able to choose what is moral and taught in those colleges.

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comana said:

If the majority want to study it, then the moral choice has already been made by the students themselves. They are not excluded from ”we, as a society”.

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No, universities should teach what is true about trans. Trans is a real phenomenon. Trans people exist and always have and societies have dealt with the phenomenon in different ways. Whether you think trans is immoral or not, teaching about trans is not immoral, especially not for teachers who will of necessity have to deal with trans kids in their classrooms.

Hans Blaster said:

It is a far better thing to know something than to look for for affirmation of your wrongness with A"I".

What your AI overview fails to mention that epigenetic effects last for at most 2-3 generations. So if there were any from fighting the Ottomans they were gone long before your immigrant ancestor's grandfather was born. (The epigenetic impacts of battle would be the biochemical responses to stress. Those don't tend to be beneficial to persons not under stress.)

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AI Overview

Transgenerational epigenetic effects in humans can persist for at least several generations, with some studies suggesting they can last for four or more generations.

• Potential for even longer effects: The persistence of these effects beyond five generations in humans is not yet fully understood, but the ongoing research suggests that it is a possibility, and the effects could be more frequent and long-lasting than previously thought.

RocksInMyHead said:

From what I can read of the article, it seems that the people they were blocking were merely annoyed and irritated. So, why did you choose to present it as an example of "menace"?

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Always happy to inform:

menace - definition:
menace /mĕn′ĭs/

noun​

1. A possible danger; a threat.
   "a careless driver who was a menace to public safety."
2. The quality of being threatening.
   "a hint of menace in his voice."
3. A troublesome or annoying person.
   "considered her little brother to be a menace."

Dreyma said:

How does this relate to what I was saying about the issue of whether Hell exists? (I don't mean that in a rude way. I'm just confused, sorry.)

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I mean that if someone is guilty of the unforgivable sin then where else will they end up but in hell? I don’t know precisely what blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is ( I can think of examples like say an unrepentant murderer but that’s it).

Apple Sky said:

But they do & people just can't see it or rather they just don't want to see it.

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It is just like you can see that the shampoo will make you pretty. You are seeing what you want to see. You distrust science and the establishment, which you should, but it encourages you to distrust the truth from science and the establishment. One of the most common lies is “I'm from the government, and I’m here to help you.” I find this to be often the case. However, the government actually came to our farm and helped. You should take things piece by piece, and not paint with a broad brush. They lied about the Covid vaccine, but it doesn’t mean they lied about the moon landing.

First off, thank you for answering my question.

Postvieww said:

By implying there have been illegal orders or may be in the future which is ridiculous.

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I do not see how this is "ridiculous". It is certainly a partisan jab, I will give you that. But it is not like this is outside the realm of possibility given human nature. It was not that long ago that we saw atrocities ordered by world leaders and Trump has a history of skirting the law while demanding loyalty to his actions.

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It also plants the seed to disobey orders from the Commander in Chief.

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No, it does not. If it did then the exact same message that is included in every military recruits training would plant the seed. The thing I find telling is the lack of this outrage when a military commander refused to follow Biden's orders because he believed Trumps "big steal" lie.

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It is all about undermining Trump which has been going on since he first announced his first candidacy. It is ridiculous believing our brave service men and women need to be reminded of their responsibilities by a bunch of partisans masquerading as leaders. Who on the left thought this was a good idea, who scripted this and who produced this disgrace?

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No, that was not their intent. I don't think you are capable of discerning their intent as you are to far from what their reality is.

Hvizsgyak said:

And that is why ASP is a much better choice than being part of the groypers (who dislike people from other cultures and backgrounds). ASP embraces the belief that ALL people have been created by God and they should all be treated with love and dignity. And yes, the act of engaging in homosexual sex is very much frowned upon but still those who engage in such acts are to be loved and dignified. Groypers, in my eyes, are haters. Looking at Nick Fuentes, I see very little love in his heart for those he speaks against.

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I have issue with ASP supporting homosexuality and I have issue with groyperism for being against immigration but ultimately groypers are more productive and popular so I think it makes more sense to support groypers. I was a cringey libertarian weirdo who only vaguely believed in God before I stumbled upon a Nick Fuentes video in 2018. His sense of humor and faith inspired me to actually read the Bible