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Dan Perez · 2025-11-21T18:16:40-0600

pasifika said:
The word "covenant" is not there in Heb 9:8 But the writer is explaining and comparing the old covenant with it's regulations and worship to the new covenant. With the earthly temple verse 1, heaven temple verse 24 etc

If you start reading from chapter 8, then chapter 9 is a continuation from there.

In regards to Col 1:25 Paul (an Apostle of Christ verse 1) wrote regarding the knowledge of Christ in fulfilling the fullness of God to His people ie verse 19,20 this is new covenant teachings

And I wrote. Heb. 9 :18.

#1. WHERE UPON //. HOTHEN. is an ADVERB

# 2 NEITHER. // OUDE. is an ADVERB

# 3. THE // is a DEFINATE ARTICLE in the NOMINATIVE CASE in the SINGULAR

# 4 FIRST // PROTOS in the NOMINATIVE CASE n the SINGULAR

# 5 ( TESTAMENT ). WAS DEDICATED //. EGKAINIZ. in the PERFECT TENSE in the INDICATIVE MOOD in. the SINGULAR

# 6 WITHOUT // CHORIS. is an. ADVERB

# 7 BLOOD //. HAIMA in. the GENITIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR in. the NEUTER

This isbn why the OLD COVENENT. could could not save BECAUSE CHRIST BLOOD had not yet shed

ON THE CROSS and why Gentiles would never be saved

AS ATONMENT was what kept all SAFE with. the

The PRIEST

The ALTER

THE SACIFICE

THE BLOOD THAT WAS SPRINKLED ON THE ALTER

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Spiritual Jew · 2025-11-21T18:12:02-0600

Guojing said:
James was the head of true Israel, the remnant that believed in Jesus as their Messiah.

The resurrected Christ never told any of them that the Law is now optional for them. Instead he continue to tell them "to obey everything he commanded (Matthew 28:20), which includes obedience to the Law.

It is rather arrogant of you to claim that they were incorrect for more than 20 years after the cross.

It is rather foolish of you to deny that the old covenant law was made obsolete by the blood of Christ despite scripture teaching that in Hebrews 8-10. His blood established the new covenant and made the old covenant obsolete. That is what it clearly says in passages like Hebrews 8:6-13 and Hebrews 10:1-14. But, you are contradicting that by claiming that the old covenant law was still in effect after His death.

LoricaLady · 2025-11-21T18:09:38-0600

The rise of Islamist extremism in the north of the country, especially in regions such as Cabo Delgado, has had a devastating impact on the lives of believers. Churches have been burned down, pastors abducted and many killed. The objective of these groups is to, while church youth leaders are at particular risk from violent drug traffickers.

Meet "Pastor Mario"

In Mozambique, we Christians are targets of much persecution, many believers are raped, killed, several churches and houses destroyed.

PASTOR MARIO, CHURCH LEADER IN MOZAMBIQUE

What has changed this year?

Mozambique rose by two positions on this year's World Watch List. Islamist militants continued their hate campaign against Christians, which intensified after 11 Christians were executed in September 2023. In 2024, extremists launched a campaign targeting Christians called Kill Them Wherever You Find Them. Additionally, the fight against Islamist militants in Cabo Delgado was weakened after a multi-national peacekeeping mission withdrew their troops.

What does Open Doors do to help Christians in Mozambique?

Open Doors supports persecuted Christians in northern Mozambique by providing emergency aid, persecution survival training and economic empowerment projects.

How can you pray for Mozambique?

Pray for protection for believers in northern Mozambique as the region remains unstable and vulnerable to attacks from extremist groups.
Please pray that God will comfort and heal Christians who are severely traumatised because of the violent attacks.
Pray for Open Doors partners who work in Mozambique to be protected as they seek to strengthen the faith of believers.

Spiritual Jew · 2025-11-21T18:08:25-0600

Douggg said:
No, to the first question.

Yet, there are unbelievers who are physical descendants of national Israel. So, national Israel and true Israel are two different entities. It seems that you do understand there are two Israels, but, for some reason, you think that one's nationality has something to do with being part of the Israel of God even though scripture does not say that.

Douggg said:
Regarding the second question, the requirements are (1) being a Jew (2) believing in Jesus.

Where is that indicated in scripture? You won't find that in Romans 9:6-8 where Paul differentiates between physical, national Israel and the spiritual Israel of God.

Douggg said:
Israelites of God is a non-biblical term that can be misleading.

You worry way too much about things like this. We know that the Israel of God is a biblical term, so there is no reason to be concerned about calling those who are part of the Israel of God "Israelites of God".

Douggg said:
Gentile believers in Jesus are not Israelites of God by virtue of believing in Jesus.

Yes, we are. In Romans 9:6-8, Paul indicates that being part of spiritual Israel is not dependent at all on being physically descended from national Israel or Abraham, but instead it's those who are the children of God and of the promise who are part of the spiritual Israel of God and are counted as Abraham's seed. If you read Galatians 3:26-29, Paul makes it clear that the children of God are all Jew and Gentile believers and that makes them the children of the promise who are counted as Abraham's seed.

Douggg said:
Nor are Gentile believers in Jesus - "Spiritual Jews" - by virtue of believing in Jesus.

Wrong. All who belong to Christ are spiritual Jews. It's unbelievably sad that you or any Christian can't recognize this. Paul made it very clear that one's physical nationality or being a religious Jew by way of physical circumcision has nothing to do with being a spiritual Jew, but rather being spiritually circumcised makes someone a spiritual Jew.

Romans 2:28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; 29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose [a]praise is not from men but from God.

Paul says "he is NOT a Jew who is one outwardly...but he IS a Jew who is one inwardly". Douggg says "he is a Jew who is one both outwardly and inwardly". I will go with what Paul says over what you say every time.

All believers, Jew and Gentile, are spiritually circumcised by the circumcision of Christ, so we are all spiritual Jews since Paul indicated that the only requirement for being a spiritual Jew is being spiritually circumcised.

Colossians 2:11 In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, 1

prodromos · 2025-11-21T18:04:41-0600

d taylor said:
Even images like this one are not showing the curve of a sphere earth. But is showing the land of a flat surface turning back toward the observer/camera, as the camera would show in a 360 view the earth as a circular disk.

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The fact that you can only see as far as about 370 miles to the horizon from that altitude proves the earth is a sphere.
Congratulations on your own goal.

Spiritual Jew · 2025-11-21T17:59:10-0600

Guojing said:
It comprise of descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who believed that Christ is their promised Messiah, aka the gospel of the kingdom (Romans 9:6-13)

So, you do see a differentiation between national Israel, comprised of all of those who physically descend from the nation of Israel (including unbelievers) and true Israel, consisting only of believers. Why do you think that being part of true Israel has anything to do with being part of national Israel when Paul specifically says "For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham" and "those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God"? It seems to me that Paul was indicating that one's nationality or being physically descended from Abraham has nothing to do with being part of true Israel.

essentialsaltes · 2025-11-21T17:57:59-0600

Oompa Loompa said:
I bet Trump's shoes are squeaky clean now after all the boot licking.

Given how easy it is to flatter its inhabitant into changing his tune, maybe they should rename it the Irresolute Desk.

If the city gets to keep the federal money Trump was threatening, Mamdani's making good on his promises to his electorate.

The Swiss probably didn't need to bring that engraved gold bar to get their tariffs dropped; they coulda used one of those giant-sized Toblerone.

Spiritual Jew · 2025-11-21T17:54:24-0600

Delvianna said:
Yes, but 1 the context is biological because of the promise and the 2nd the context is a concept based on spiritual. It's not the same context.

Descendants = seed but that is exactly why God established Isaac. And what did he say about Isaac?

If the entire meaning was spiritual only, then that verse holds no purpose.

I have no idea of what you're saying. Just because the meaning is spiritual doesn't mean it holds no purpose. That makes no sense. Why not just accept what the New Testament teaches about these things?

As for Isaac, have you never read this...

Galatians 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are children of promise.

jacorian · 2025-11-21T17:50:56-0600

Mr. Homan is correct. There are legal pathways & laws to follow. I think sometimes people get this impression of Christ that He is trying to just be liberal & liked & thus allow every behavior. No He had a standard. We have trouble deciphering it. All nations must have border laws in order to retain sovereignty. We don't exist as a bunch of tribes on this planet in a vacuum where we can all sit down at the campfire. The reality is that all humans live in tension. I like so many people wait for a 2nd Coming that would dissolve this toxicity. But one has to understand the financial burden place on citizens from this huge transgression. The Democrats allowed this because they want a compliant people to come in & eventually get to the voting booth. This people will do what they're told which is to vote for the hand that feeds. It's Pavlovs dogs. Then you lose all control of society. If they can get freebies, then maybe John Q should not pay his property taxes. Or maybe John Q should go steal a bicycle or rob a bank. Society breaks down if you don't have a decorum. Its all too easy to want to be liked & look benevolent to the people. It's like better to be popular than right. Well being popular is not always correct. This is not a matter of 50 migrants. It's much more. Why should the American people redistribute their hard-earned income now to these people & bring down their own standard of living. They could jeopardize their own ability to eat, pay rent or mortgage, get food, etc. And please don't give me this but if you do great in heaven will be your reward. Tell that to a cancer patient. And the Church does not appear to have an answer to the drug problem, trafficking, & crime. It's like saying don't worry we have the money to pay for the cost on society for the fentanyl. don't worry if someone does too much charity & now can't pay the rent, we will send 2 loaves & 5 fish. It's also easy to see that church attendance has declined & it may appear that these migrants make for easy bait to fill the pews. So it appears everyone has a motive of exploitation. When a society lacks a standard & plays everyone gets a trophy, it degrades the standard. We have our own homeless, our own vets, drug addicts, mentally ill, poor, & even these days middle class.

camille70 · 2025-11-21T17:44:51-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Trump praises NYC Mayor-elect Mamdani after White House meeting
Instead of rehashing their feud, they talked up their areas of agreement — especially on working to make New York City less expensive — and even traded some compliments.

“I think you’re going to have, hopefully, a really great mayor,” Trump said. “The better he does, the happier I am.”

“I appreciated the meeting with the president,” said Mamdani, who stood while Trump sat at the Resolute Desk. “And as he said, it was a productive meeting focused on a place of shared admiration and love, which is New York City and the need to deliver affordability to New Yorkers.”

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Trump is easily charmed. He likes good looking winners with winning energy. Trump still can't be trusted, but maybe some of the sharks will swim off and give Mamdani a chance.

Its going to depend on news coverage of the meeting and whether or not Trump is painted in a poor light.

camille70 · 2025-11-21T17:40:51-0600

Oompa Loompa said:
I bet Trump's shoes are squeaky clean now after all the boot licking.

Is calling him a fascist to his face considered boot licking?

jacorian · 2025-11-21T17:40:21-0600

Michie said:
Border czar Tom Homan strongly opposed the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops’ (USCCB) “special message” on immigration, saying the statement would encourage people to make a dangerous trek to the United States.

Homan told EWTN News on Nov. 14 that the “Catholic Church is wrong. I’m sorry. I’m a lifelong Catholic. I’m saying it as not only a border czar. I’ll say it as a Catholic. I think they need to spend time fixing Catholic Church in my opinion.”

The bishops approved the message on immigration at the 2025 Fall Plenary Assembly in Baltimore on Nov. 12. “We oppose the indiscriminate mass deportation of people,” the message said.

More than 95% of the American bishops voted to support the message. The bishops said in the message they “are bound to our people by ties of communion and compassion in Our Lord Jesus Christ” and “are saddened by the state of contemporary debate and the vilification of immigrants.”

Continued below.

Border czar Homan says ‘Catholic Church is wrong’ on immigration

Border czar Tom Homan strongly opposed the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops’ (USCCB) “special message” on immigration.

www.catholicnewsagency.com

jacorian · 2025-11-21T17:39:50-0600

Not at all. People don't get this in any kind of Sunday school but many of the writings in the Bible are not authored by the person in the Title but rather by assistants of that person or schools of thought. Even in those days there was a lot of criticism & editing. In the New Testament, these apostles had been martyred by the time the books were compiled into an anthology. In the Old Testament we have some prophets ascribed to their work & others once again written by assistants & maybe designating the name. As anyone knows there are prophesies, words of wisdom or proclamation, philosophies, instructions for churches, parables & stories. They are designed to illustrate a point. There are inconsistencies, e.g. how many angels appeared at the Resurrection? Many metaphors are used. After publication then of course we had pieces of dogma & doctrine that developed over all the denominations in religion. And we still have many questions.

d taylor · 2025-11-21T17:35:52-0600

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Even images like this one are not showing the curve of a sphere earth. But is showing the land of a flat surface turning back toward the observer/camera, as the camera would show in a 360 view the earth as a circular disk.

Oompa Loompa · 2025-11-21T17:35:10-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Trump praises NYC Mayor-elect Mamdani after White House meeting
Instead of rehashing their feud, they talked up their areas of agreement — especially on working to make New York City less expensive — and even traded some compliments.

“I think you’re going to have, hopefully, a really great mayor,” Trump said. “The better he does, the happier I am.”

“I appreciated the meeting with the president,” said Mamdani, who stood while Trump sat at the Resolute Desk. “And as he said, it was a productive meeting focused on a place of shared admiration and love, which is New York City and the need to deliver affordability to New Yorkers.”

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I bet Trump's shoes are squeaky clean now after all the boot licking.

Douggg · 2025-11-21T17:33:09-0600

Spiritual Jew said:
Do you include Jews who don't believe in Jesus in the Israel of God? What do you think are the requirements for being part of the Israel of God?

No, to the first question.

Regarding the second question, the requirements are (1) being a Jew (2) believing in Jesus.

Spiritual Jew said:
Yes, the "Israel of God" is referenced there, so it seems reasonable to call those who are part of the Israel of God "Israelites of God". Why question that?

Israelites of God is a non-biblical term that can be misleading. Gentile believers in Jesus are not Israelites of God by virtue of believing in Jesus.

Nor are Gentile believers in Jesus - "Spiritual Jews" - by virtue of believing in Jesus.

jacorian · 2025-11-21T17:32:39-0600

I heard the script & it does indeed some like the art of persuasion on the part of politicians to try & get the military to ignore the president. We would not be in this position had previous administrations enforced the border & that actually goes back to Reagan. Everyone fails b/c they want to appear to be sympathetic. That does not make it right. Countries must defend their borders. That includes the Vatican State. I think it is backfiring on these Dems but I also think Trump fell for the trap as he often does. No country can sustain so importation of so many different tribes because we all differ. Human beings live in tension. Now I think most Americans are do not mind if people come in legally. Coming in legally means someone has to go thru a process-it becomes a goal & when you attain the goal, it means more to you that you have accomplished something. This assures better assimilation. But when you drop all standards because you want to placate, curry favor, earn votes, or pretend to appear benevolent, you do much harm. Giving everyone a trophy does not work & if one has seen some of these round-ups on video, a lot of these folks don't appear cooperative but feel entitled. Like you owe us. As a country faced with an affordability problem that has reached now a point of jeopardy--Americans can no longer sustain the added financial burdens from the density of people using the hospitals, clinics, & schools. These people are not paying up front & they are not paying income taxes nor property taxes. The Democrats love this because their sole ideology on an economy is redistribution of income. But the math fails there. They do this because they want to be like & look beneficent. But they are exploiting both American hearts & exploiting these people. In fact, inviting non-skilled labor in here might as well be called modern day slavery because the wages don't really buy that much. That money often gets sent back home. Employers exploit this & for decades both parties have allowed this process because by appeasing employers, they can expect the employer to donate. It also depresses wages for rival citizens if you can find someone to do a task of 50% off. And in cases it supplants a job that could have gone to an American that would be paying some income tax & FICA tax. So people really do need to examine these impacts instead of committing financial suicide. As we know from our history many people came thru Ellis Island & they did so legally. I'm sure there were some illegal crossings from the 60s-90s but not millions or hundreds of thousands. More like a few hundred. When someone comes over legally Americans are much more appreciative. In fact for the last 3 years I've been studying with an immigrant from Europe, who is btw a full-fledged citizen & taxpayer, & fully assimilated.

prodromos · 2025-11-21T17:31:29-0600

Hentenza said:
You do realize that thousands of airplanes a day travel around all areas of the globe, right? You do realize that if you are in one of these thousands of planes that fly every day cruising at 35,000 feet that you can clearly see the curvature of the earth, right? Have you ever been on a plane?

Heck, let’s have some fun. Go to a pier and watch ships disappear in the horizon. What do you see? You see the bottom of the ship disappear first and then progressively disappear from bottom to top until the top of the ship disappears. Do you know why that is? Because of the curvature of a spherical earth.

The fact that the earth is a sphere is not up for debate since it has been fully proven. Any other argument going against a fully proven fact is just absurd.

God created a spherical earth that spins on its axis every 24 hours and goes around the sun every 365 days. God created every other planet in our solar system and beyond to also be a sphere. The sun and the moon are spheres. Therefore the earth is a sphere.

He's run away to find his own little echo chamber where no one will challenge his beliefs. I don't expect we will see him again in any of these threads in the near future.

jacorian · 2025-11-21T17:17:41-0600

Well then let the Vatican take them in. People don't exist for the sake of redistributing their own income & letting their own standard of living fall apart. We have a legal pathway.

Pop D. · 2025-11-21T17:13:04-0600

Heavenly Father, Holy is Your Name, we pray You will heal April and restore her mightily, in the Name of Jesus, as only You can do. Amen and Amen.

RileyG · 2025-11-21T17:10:24-0600

Glory to God!

RileyG · 2025-11-21T17:10:06-0600

Chrystal-J said:
I find these suicides horrifying. People were upset when the cult "Heaven's Gate" committed mass suicide, but this is ok?

Agreed. It’s sad, really.

RileyG · 2025-11-21T17:08:26-0600

High Fidelity said:
He's welcome to come and live amongst the rapists and terrorists invading the UK.

Considering he’s going to spend the rest of his life at the Vatican, not possible. I also think a lot of his words were taken out of context.

Pommer · 2025-11-21T16:55:49-0600

Vambram said:
Jesus Christ would condemn the sinful teachings of the LGBTQ agenda.

~~Evidenced by His stance in the gospels?~~
Withdrawn, believe what you’d like about your Deity.

DaisyDay · 2025-11-21T16:53:05-0600

Good.

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