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timothyu · 2025-11-29T14:36:44-0600

Benaiah468 said:
Jesus is identified with Israel and is the true and ultimate Israelite. However, this identification serves as the basis for the restoration of the nation of Israel, not for the assumption that Israel is insignificant in G-d's plan.

Providing they reunite as the 12 and live under the will of God as originally intended, yes. But the whole point of Jesus is that because of Him, the Father no longer needs a chosen people/nation among all the nations controlled by the elohim (as was their original purpose and intention). All people, in all nations, are now free to join the Kingdom of God in the place He set aside for Himself, His holy ground.

DaisyDay · 2025-11-29T14:36:25-0600

Perpetual Student said:
Who would want a guy with his thumb up near the grave of a loved one?

View attachment 373805

Way too many, imo, if the thumb owner is famous.

Oompa Loompa · 2025-11-29T14:35:07-0600

Valletta said:
"If you were born or raised in the United States, you have grown up in the Whiteness Pandemic, and you can play a role in halting and reversing this pandemic, especially if you are White because of the power and privilege you hold in this racialized society. If you were socialized into the culture of Whiteness during childhood it is not your fault, but as an adult it is now your responsibility to self-reflect, re-educate yourself, and act."

Whiteness Pandemic

innovation.umn.edu

This may be helpful in understanding the Minnesota political culture.

I invite liberals to talk about the "Blackness Pandemic." The University of Minnesota are safe to talk about a imaginary "Whiteness Pandemic," so why can we not talk about a "Blackness Pandemic" here on this forum thread? I will wait. My point is simple, liberals will ignore the "Blackness Pandemic" because it will inflame Black people. So why should they be surprised that CRT and talk about a "Whiteness Pandemic" will inflame white people and perpetuate racial division?

DaisyDay · 2025-11-29T14:34:30-0600

rjs330 said:
We don't have immigration law that offers different deportations for those who commit those crimes and those that don't.

Sure we do; always have.

Strong in Him · 2025-11-29T14:32:29-0600

Just to remind you.

rjs330 · 2025-11-29T14:32:20-0600

Say it aint so said:
I literally said put the studies aside. Your response is telling.

Believe what you will. I don't care.

rjs330 · 2025-11-29T14:31:49-0600

BCP1928 said:
Why is it a lie and not just a social convention?

Man, if you don't know by now what my answer to the question would be its ra t her hopless. I'm actually surprised you asked the question.

BPPLEE · 2025-11-29T14:31:31-0600

Belk said:
First off, thank you for answering my question.

I do not see how this is "ridiculous". It is certainly a partisan jab, I will give you that. But it is not like this is outside the realm of possibility given human nature. It was not that long ago that we saw atrocities ordered by world leaders and Trump has a history of skirting the law while demanding loyalty to his actions.

No, it does not. If it did then the exact same message that is included in every military recruits training would plant the seed. The thing I find telling is the lack of this outrage when a military commander refused to follow Biden's orders because he believed Trumps "big steal" lie.

No, that was not their intent. I don't think you are capable of discerning their intent as you are to far from what their reality is.

The intent was to do exactly what it did, trigger Trump and his supporters. If he had just ignored it and his supporters did the same we wouldn't have heard anything else about it.

Oompa Loompa · 2025-11-29T14:30:47-0600

iluvatar5150 said:
No

Yes.

Oompa Loompa · 2025-11-29T14:29:35-0600

iluvatar5150 said:
You searched the internet with AI, didn’t find what you were looking for and then declared it to not exist?

lol, are you serious? You apparently don’t know anything about how any of those things work. How do you know you fed the AI appropriate search terms? How do you know it was trained in the material you’re look for?

The only person being obtuse here is you.

What are you talking about? Why did you ask me what I meant by “creed” and then assume an answer that was wildly inaccurate? Are DEI and “woke ideology” your default target for anything you don’t like? If I’d wanted to say something about DEI, I would have done so.

What I meant by “creed” was an adherence to a certain set of values and ideals: all people are created equal; people deserve certain fundamental rights such as life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; etc. America’s very existence was built on being a “melting pot” of migrants from other cultures all working towards, as our founding myth would claim, a more prosperous future via hard work and rugged individualism. Obviously reality was somewhat more murky than that, but that’s the story we’ve told ourselves and, traditionally, becoming “American” has been more about that than about birthplace.

But some, including perhaps most notably JD Vance, are trying to change that concept of “Americanism” to something more restricted to lineage, especially lineage via certain blocs of early migrants.

This piece covers it fairly well:

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/jd-vances-dangerous-view-of-american-nationhood

First, "woke" is a term that the left has created to describe themselves. So embrace it instead of disassociating yourself from it. Second, "woke" is not anything I don't like, it is the garbage presented in the OP that the country has widely rejected. Third, the "creed" or "values" you speak of implies that those coming into the country wish to assimilate into American culture. Not third world nationals strong arming third world customs onto another nation. This is why there is so much outrage in Europe, and even here in the United States. We are all tired of third world hooligans coming into another country feeling entitled to demand subsidies at the tax player's expense only to bring crime and instability. I dare you to name a single thing Somalia refugees have contributed to Minnesota other than crime.

DaisyDay · 2025-11-29T14:26:27-0600

rjs330 said:
Yes someone brings the case to them and they accept it thinking they have the authority over the immigration courts.

Federal judges can hear appeals in some immigration cases. See Background on Judicial Review of Immigration Decisions for more information.

rjs330 said:
They dont have the authority or power to override a deportation order.

Why would you think that to be true? If an order is illegally obtained, then it is subject to correction. When there is already a stay, DHS can't simply disregard it.

rjs330 said:
But they think they do and they would be wrong because they aren't immigration judges.

Immigration judges have a low level and limited authority. They are not the be-all and end-all which would be the Supreme Court. The first step up from immigration judges is the Board of Immigration Appeal which is a body of more immigration judges. The next higher court is the federal district court which can hear appeals.

Akita Suggagaki · 2025-11-29T14:25:08-0600

Truth7t7 said:
More like removing the enemies within, better known as cleaning house

This is the “Great America” Trump stands for. Enemies everywhere. His toxic narcissism divides America even more then it has ever been.

Christworshiper · 2025-11-29T14:24:01-0600

As you get older, you will appreciate it more. That what happened with me and the Catholic mass. It only took me, 63 years to enjoy, understand and appreciate it.

BCP1928 · 2025-11-29T14:23:44-0600

stevevw said:
Despite the numbers it is the party which gets in that dictates the social order. The US is suppose to be a strong Christian nation. Yet they are coming out of a period that ushered in ant Christian social policies.

Allowing the non-Christian citizens of a secular state to do things that Christians regard as sin is not an anti-Christian social policy.

stevevw said:
So Christians cannot do anything of they are not supported by a government that is open to their beliefs. Otherwise they like the pagan Romans will be subject to whatever ideology the holder of power determines.

I think primarily for all western nations we are seeing a divide and conflict between Left and Right. Conservatives and by extention Christians verses Progressives, liberals and socialists. A strange mix.

It seems strange because you are mixing social policy, economic policy and foreign policy and trying to put them all on the same left-right axis. Once upon a time in this country, conservative evangelical Christians supported left-wing labor and economic policies, with candidates like William Jennings Bryan.

stevevw said:
The divide will increase and it will be Christians and of course Jews as always who it will come down to as the enermy of the State power and the worldly ideology it will push.

Christians and Jews should be used to that by now. They will get through it.

Landon Caeli · 2025-11-29T14:22:43-0600

Yttrium said:
I would say that it reduces the victimhood. The drug users typically know what they're getting into.

But why not do both? Reduce the demand, reduce the supply.

I would agree to the two way approach, if there were only a medication that takes away the shaking, and panic involved in drug withdrawal. If such a drug existed, in patch or pill form, then we could say that we stand a chance at reducing the demand aspect.

...But until such a medication exists, out of 48.4 million abusers in the U.S., recovery will remain impossible for the 12 million ( 25%) who, as it stands, will never recover.

Alcohol and Drug Abuse Statistics (Facts About Addiction) https://share.google/2G40rPOXyPFvK8c5Z

Christworshiper · 2025-11-29T14:17:46-0600

Hi,

I just received this beautiful VMG sterling silver with moissanite medal. I see that all the Guadalupe medals have the Virgin hovering over what appears to be a child with wings. Is this an angel? Thanks

Strong in Him · 2025-11-29T14:17:04-0600

Apple Sky said:
The waters on earth are not curved.

Job 37:10 By the breath of God frost is given: and
the breadth of the waters is straitened.
Psa 136:6 To him that stretched out the earth above
the waters: for his mercy endureth for ever.

1. Did anyone say they were?
Although, having said that, you've been shown a photo of a towering wave, and water swirling down a plughole. You expressed surprise and said that you hadn't realised.
2. The purpose of the Bible is not to give scientific details/explanation of the universe.
All together now; "the Bible is not a science textbook."
3. Not long ago you said you were going to pay more attention to poetry in the Bible.

Akita Suggagaki · 2025-11-29T14:15:22-0600

Postvieww said:
She was no traitor! She was a victim.

Trespassing on government property during congressional session. Breaking the law. No excuse.

DaisyDay · 2025-11-29T14:07:05-0600

Perpetual Student said:
I try to understand that this is written by America's brightest and smartest.

Why would you try to do such an inane thing?

Perpetual Student said:
I try and fail.

Oh well. How about trying to understand what their actual point is, even if you disagree with it?

The Liturgist · 2025-11-29T14:05:08-0600

ViaCrucis said:
Can you name a single mainstream Christian tradition that believes that baptism makes a person sinless? The views of bizarre fringe sects or those of cults have no place in this conversation. There's no comparing the historic, traditional Christian view of baptism with the bizarre teachings of fringe groups and cults.

-CryptoLutheran

I can’t even think of a heretical sect that believes that, except perhaps the Mandaeans, who use baptism to maintain ritual purity, but that’s not the same as sinlessness.

Richard T · 2025-11-29T14:04:50-0600

Today I tasted my first banana "heart." Which basically is the flower of the banana that can be cooked and eaten. It was wrapped in a salad dressing that looked like shredded chicken from a catfood can. I tasted this mainly Asian food, and found it to be quite good.

"A banana heart is the fleshy, teardrop-shaped flower that hangs at the end of a banana cluster. It can be eaten raw or cooked and is a traditional food in many parts of Asia and India. The edible parts, which have a meaty texture similar to an artichoke heart, require preparation like peeling the outer layers and soaking in an acidulated water solution to reduce bitterness and browning before use in dishes like salads, curries, and soups"

Here is someone else who blogged about it (with photo) Hearts of Banana

BCP1928 · 2025-11-29T14:03:38-0600

Hans Blaster said:
The problem is that it wasn't clear. Some of it comes down to the somewhat subtle differences between "model", "modeling", and "simulation". Then there are the differences in the usage of the term between fields. Since the two examples given in my post are from physics and that is my field I will stick mostly physics, but there is one more item very relevant to this thread that I will consider.

Model: (A) a mathematical representation of a general system or (B) a mathematical/numerical representation of a specific state.
Modelling: Construction of a model from first principles or from data
Simulation: A numerical representation of a physical system evolved in time from initial conditions and a set of modeled equations.

I've done modelling and simulation, and for me the principle difference is that some complex systems have time derivatives and require simulation, and others do not and are modeled.

The Higgs is a model of the (A) type as is the Standard Model of particle physics. The EM propagation calculated through the pyramid in that paper is a model of the (B) type.

There is a third kind of model, a digital model of measurements. This is what you get from those vase scans, a digital model that can be displayed or examined.

Some simulation is called "model" beacause "simulation" sounds too much like "fake". Climate and weather models involving moving air masses are properly speaking "simulations".

A model of type (A) described by a few simple equations with parameters. It describes the expansion of space.

Those are actually different models.

In the case of the cosmological models, new data demonstrated a missing component (dark energy) that had to be included. Other times the flaws in a model can no longer be covered by wide error bars as more precise data shows that the model doesn't quite match. This seems to be happening now with the simple model of dark energy as a cosmological constant.

Evolution is far off topic, but "genetics + random changes + NS" hasn't been the current model of evolution in quite some time.

That isn't the assumption.

Now we must come to the model of EM waves and pyramids that started all of this. I have no problems with the model itself, presuming that the authors knew how to make such a model and the dielectric properties of limestone for long wavelength waves are measured. That is a model of an objects properties using a simplified structure and measured material properties. It hasn't been "field tested", but that probably isn't an issue. The model is how rather uninteresting. We can be certain the Egyptians didn't give the pyramid those EM focusing properties on purpose as they demonstrate no knowledge of long wavelength EM radiation, something that would remain unknown for another 4500 years.

I think that is the point, the same point that Steve was trying to make about vases--that they did have this knowledge, not in the way we usually get knowledge of that kind, by observation and experiment, but in some other way not accessible to "materialist science." What he calls, I think, transcendent knowledge or indigenous knowledge or something like that.

hedrick · 2025-11-29T14:03:21-0600

iluvatar5150 said:
No, what everyone knows is that you’re making claims out of your own ignorance and overconfidence in AI.

The two papers those authors wrote and cite on that page are freely available if you look for them (and you don’t have to look hard). Despite the more sensational headlines, the first one is about how white people are less likely to talk to their kids about race. The second one is a follow up after a year of heavy coverage of George Floyd and BLM. What alternate theories would you have liked them to examine?

Personaly I would have liked the University to publicize their research with more descriptive language, rather than with language guaranteed to create a public backlash.

Say it aint so · 2025-11-29T14:02:33-0600

rjs330 said:
The studies are based on questionnaires only. All the other things I mentioned are not included. Its not real scientific research.

And I'm not answering a hypothetical like that. "If" is not worth talking about.

I literally said put the studies aside. Your response is telling.

The Liturgist · 2025-11-29T13:59:34-0600

ViaCrucis said:
No. I do not believe it is necessary for the one ministering the Sacrament of Baptism to be a pastor. The historic Christian position is that it is ideal for pastors to be the ones performing the baptismal rite; but it is not necessary.

Indeed, I believe this point is uncontroversial among traditional churches unlike, whereas in contrast, regarding Chrismation or the Eucharist, the consnsus is that clergy is required.

However the caveat does attach that such extraordinary baptisms are something done in emergencies.

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