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The Reality of Free Will

We have nothing else to talk about.
I don’t need the last word, but I do want to leave you with this --> Scripture says the will is enslaved to sin until Christ sets it free (John 8:34–36; Romans 6:18). That’s why the only true free will is the one liberated by Him. My hope isn’t to win an argument, but to point to the freedom found in Christ. It doesn't mean we're perfect, it means that in His grace, His strength is made perfect in weakness.

2 Corinthians 12:9
And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
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Eve and the Fallacy of Moral Choices

Are you claiming

Mark 4:15 applies to everyone. All are tempted internally and therefore have evil present within them.
First off in Mark 4:15 Jesus specifically says: “Some people” and not “all people”.

Look at the context of Mark 4: 15 starting with Mark 4: 13 Then Jesus said to them, “Don’t you understand this parable? How then will you understand any parable? 14 The farmer sows the word. 15 Some people are like seed along the path, where the word is sown. As soon as they hear it, Satan comes and takes away the word that was sown in them. 16 Others, like seed sown on rocky places, hear the word and at once receive it with joy. 17 But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away. 18 Still others, like seed sown among thorns, hear the word; 19 but the worries of this life, the deceitfulness of wealth and the desires for other things come in and choke the word, making it unfruitful. 20 Others, like seed sown on good soil, hear the word, accept it, and produce a crop—some thirty, some sixty, some a hundred times what was sown.”

In context there are four different groups of soils (people).

Jesus was tempted so being tempted does not mean He has “evil present within” them.
And that would be your own add on position trying to disqualifying your neighbors love and self justifying yours.
The contingency is right from the Bible “if we Love one another”.
Read my statements again. Then give a specific named person. Just one will do. Hint in advance. You wont find a single one.
1 Timothy 1: 19 holding on to faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and so have suffered shipwreck with regard to the faith. 20 Among them are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme.

1 Tim. 4:1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.

1 Tim. 5: 11 As for younger widows, do not put them on such a list. For when their sensual desires overcome their dedication to Christ, they want to marry. 12 Thus they bring judgment on themselves, because they have broken their first pledge. 13 Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. And not only do they become idlers, but also busybodies who talk nonsense, saying things they ought not to. 14 So I counsel younger widows to marry, to have children, to manage their homes and to give the enemy no opportunity for slander. 15 Some have in fact already turned away to follow Satan.

2 Tim. 1: 15 You know that everyone in the province of Asia has deserted me, including Phygelus and Hermogenes.

2 Tim. 2: 7 Their teaching will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, 18 who have departed from the truth. They say that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some. 19 Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness.”

2 Tim. 4: 10 for Demas, because he loved this world, has deserted me and has gone to Thessalonica. Crescens has gone to Galatia, and Titus to Dalmatia.
All are under sin. Romans 3:9. Sin is of the devil, 1 John 3:8, Mark 4:15.
Ro. 3: 9 What shall we conclude then? Do we have any advantage? Not at all! For we have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under the power of sin.

This is referring to both Jews and Gentiles. Yes all mature adults sinned.

1 John 3: 8 The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. 9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. 10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.

We are either servants of satan or servants of God.

Mark 4: 15 is explained above.
It is incumbent on your position to eradicate those scriptures and a host of others

God does make people believe or they wouldn't believe
Believe/faith is not a “work” (meaning deserving of something), but humility and believe is our part which we bring to the salvation process. Every mature adult believes in somethings (some worship gods of stone).
The shotgun is being held by people who thinks God is going to burn them or others alive forever. These positions are simply forced manipulation. Believe or else. Common works/law salvation positions
To believe in hell you have to believe in the Christian God.

God did it to Himself bt aggravating devils in people which same killed Him, thereby sealing their fate to hell
So this is a suicide act?
God is not in need, least of all for the self centered self interested love of mankind, as if we have something Ge needs.
I am not saying God needs anything, God is just trying to get us to humble accept His Love.
Nope

As previously noted your pisition eliminates both the Will of God and the will of the tempter in the equations. And therefore doesnt add up
It fits man’s objective.
God always has two positions active with everyone And it's quite simple. For good/against evil, simultaneously

Neither can be eliminated from His sight
How is this not saying that God’s actions are contingent on the choices of the people?
The evil present in no one makes good choices is the point. Your positions try to eliminate the obvious issue. It doesn't add up.

Never will
Yes it does.
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Now does everyone understand why the "right to refuse illegal orders" video was made?

It's literally the example given in the Law of War manual on the DoD(W) website:

18.3.2.1 Clearly Illegal Orders to Commit Law of War Violations. The requirement to refuse to comply with orders to commit law of war violations applies to orders to perform conduct that is clearly illegal or orders that the subordinate knows, in fact, are illegal. For example, orders to fire upon the shipwrecked would be clearly illegal.
Thank you.
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Now does everyone understand why the "right to refuse illegal orders" video was made?

Hertling was saying the code training literally uses as the example of shooting of survivors in the water as an illegal act.
It's literally the example given in the Law of War manual on the DoD(W) website:

18.3.2.1 Clearly Illegal Orders to Commit Law of War Violations.

The requirement to refuse to comply with orders to commit law of war violations applies to orders to perform conduct that is clearly illegal or orders that the subordinate knows, in fact, are illegal.
For example, orders to fire upon the shipwrecked would be clearly illegal.
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Is Hell Annihilationism or Eternal Torment

Fire consumes the material, like the body, but not the immaterial, like the spirit and soul.
We are talking about God's consuming fire that can destroy both body and soul. And I choose to believe Christ's words in that we are to fear the one that can destroy (fully in the Greek) both body and soul. That's why Christ calls it the "second" death. Afterwards he claims to make "all things" new and that the former things will be passed away.
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6 Craziest Revelations From Scathing Report on Kash Patel — Including His Refusal to Leave a Plane Until He Was Given a Female Agent’s Jacket

This is the best dirt they could dig up? Seriously? lol.
One more time.
This is a report from FBI agents themselves; clearly those right leaning.
But no, it's far worse than just losing the confidence of those who you are suppose to lead.
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DHS confirms arrest of Afghan man in Texas after bomb threat video surfaces online

If you cut out the Arabic, that sounds a lot like hundreds (maybe thousands?) of evangelical services I've heard.

If you add the Arabic back in, it sounds exactly like basically every charismatic service I've heard, with their faux-Arabic "speaking in tongues."
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Now does everyone understand why the "right to refuse illegal orders" video was made?

White House says admiral approved second deadly boat strike

The White House on Monday confirmed a second strike in September had killed wounded civilians after the first effort failed, and put responsibility largely on the naval commander leading the mission.
Spokesperson Karoline Leavitt said U.S. Special Operations Command head Adm. Frank Bradley was “within his authority and the law” in conducting the second strike on alleged drug traffickers in the Caribbean, after the force of the first strike tossed them from the boat.
I was listening to Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling last night. There are some here who may be currently in, or were in the military who can confirm this. Hertling was saying the code training literally uses as the example of shooting of survivors in the water as an illegal act. Not him but me, but I kind of remember soldiers of other nations being brought to trial and executed for those such acts. Feel free to correct me if I am misremembering.

Minnesota is drowning in fraud.

13.6% is more than half that, not nearly half.

Both can be true.

4: Her husband manages her investments.

And does so without consulting her at all? Please, North.

They convicted Martha Stewart, didn't they?

I actually looked more into Martha Stewart and it turns out she was never actually even convicted for insider trading either. Her broker was. Congrats! You've conceded the entire argument.

Did she personally trade in those stocks using that knowledge?

Did Martha Stewart?

Just not very informative.

At least you acknowledge it wasn't an argument now.
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Trump to launch new social media platform TRUTH Social

He truthed it, and truthed it again a few minutes later. It must be truth!

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DJT is on a tear. Down 43% over the last 6 months. Still above its all time lows.
OK, now it's around its all time (post-SPAC) lows.

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6 Craziest Revelations From Scathing Report on Kash Patel — Including His Refusal to Leave a Plane Until He Was Given a Female Agent’s Jacket

This is the best dirt they could dig up? Seriously? lol.
I know you are used to, and accept mediocrity from anyone in your party if they are assigned by Trump.

Some people, like hte people who they oversee, prefer competency and integrity in those positions.
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More Americans are now reading the Bible but fewer believe it’s 100% accurate: study

Which account of Paul's conversion is correct?

And they that were with me beheld indeed the light, but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.
Acts 22 : 9

And the men that journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing the voice, but beholding no man.
Acts 9 : 7

I don't know how to reconcile these verses nor has the Holy Spirit told me how to do it. I choose to not worry about.

Why would one compare these two events? In Acts 9, the event occurs on the road to Damascus during Paul's conversion to Christianity, while the account in Acts 22 takes place 23 years later in Jerusalem.
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Trump to pardon Ex-Honduras President Guilty of Drug Trafficking and conspiring to import cocaine into the United States

I like that he's pointing out that "Radical leftists" are keeping America safe from Drug Traffickers!

Thanks Honduras man!

The John 8:32 letterhead was a nice (cynical) touch.
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Minnesota is drowning in fraud.

I'm about to reply to every individual thing here but can we just pause here for a second and zoom out? Nancy Pelosi's annualized return in the last 5 years is 22.8%. Berkshire Hathaway, the best investment firm in the WORLD's annualized return of the last 5 years is 13.6%, nearly HALF that.
13.6% is more than half that, not nearly half.
There are three options here:

1. Occam's razor: She trades on nonpublic information that she has access to by being a politician/insider
2. She is an 85 year old house of representatives member fishing for geriatric Facebook approval by pulling stunts like this who also moonlights as one of the greatest investment geniuses of our time on the side
3. She just got lucky with a few stocks

Don't avoid the question, North. I genuinely wanna see which one you pick
4: Her husband manages her investments.

And I'm sure it's going to be a real picnic to prosecute a highly powerful person based on their private thoughts
They convicted Martha Stewart, didn't they?
You've said nothing. We both admit she has nonpublic info on companies right? And we both admit she trades stocks? So where is the hang up? That alone is enough to warrant insider trading on a moral basis, if not a legal basis
Did she personally trade in those stocks using that knowledge?
It wasn't an argument, it was an informative statement.
Just not very informative.
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Minnesota is drowning in fraud.

Simply proclaim they were politically prosecuted and Trump will pardon them.
I can just hear the "they were treated very unfairly" from Trump.
Just like he just did in pardoning the ex-Honduran president who was working directly with El Chapo flooding the US with drugs killing Americans.
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The Mamdani Model: More Socialist Mayors to ComeBeware! The DSA will attempt to repeat Mamdani’s success in other Democrat strongholds.

The state does not perform "biblical "marriages and never has. i'm not even sure what that means. Christian marriage is a sacrament and must be administered by a clergyman. The state does not administer Christian sacraments.
I mean under the law. The law use to be aligned with biblical marriage. Its there in the vows. Or was lol. Then it was redefined around the year 2000 onwards for most western nations.

This was a redefining of marriage in the public square and social norms. So the State in changing the marriage laws was also legalising as morally good a new definition of marriage. Thus taking a moral position on marriage which conflicts with biblical marriage and the definition the State had previously upheld for generations.
And "we, the people" have to decide which of those practices are going to be allowed and which are not, in accordance with the Constitution..
That doesn't make it morally right. Yes the State laws and policies are usually a reflection of the social norms the community supports. Thats the point. Social norms change with the times and biblical norms don't. Thats why they come into conflict.

But the idea that its "we the people" will decide is unreal. The way its been going lately and being so polarised it seems half the population is devastated they are no longer in power. They feel disenfranchised and like they are living in some alien nation because Trumps in power.

The same when the Dems were in. It seems that half the population is never represented. Let alone all the smaller groups who never get a say. Or get too much say. Its all corruption and power and its no longer about the people.
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The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

Appears to be human but looks can be deceiving? IT IS A HUMAN WHO SURGICALLY MADE HIMSELF LOOK LIKE A CAT! No different than a man who surgically made himself look like a woman or vice versa. Your answer has proven that your ideology has blinded you to reality, making you far less credible on this topic than I.
HE does not "look like a cat". Cats don't have metal in their face. Cats don't have tatoos. I'm guessing he also doesn't have a tail.

"far less credible on this topic than I".
Not sure what to say about that one....
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The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

It is a pass/fail test and refusing to answer is a default fail, making you less credible on this topic than myself because your ideology has blinded you to reality. Can you answer the question? Cat or human?
IT's a human with a bunch of weird looking body mods.


This whole "cat" thing has a specific root but the story turned into an urban legend.

It is not too uncommon for some austistic kids (especially nonverbal ones) who pretend to be other things (usually animals) as a way to self soothe. This could mean some basic meowing or other behaviours that would appear weird or rude.

There should NOT be anything fundamentally wrong or immoral about a child behaving this way. It is a comfort to them. IF you have a problem with a child playing pretend, please understand that is a YOU issue. No teachers are SERIOUSLY getting them to think they are a cat or pushing them to do

At no point was any of these kids EVER given a litter box to crap in; that's where things went stupid.
Not true on both accounts.
Proof please.
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The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

It is a pass/fail test and refusing to answer is a default fail, making you less credible on this topic than myself because your ideology has blinded you to reality. Can you answer the question? Cat or human?
IT's a human with a bunch of weird looking body mods.


This whole "cat" thing has a specific root but the story turned into an urban legend.

It is not too uncommon for some austistic kids (especially nonverbal ones) who pretend to be other things (usually animals) as a way to self soothe. This could mean some basic meowing or other behaviours that would appear weird or rude.

There should NOT be anything fundamentally wrong or immoral about a child behaving this way. It is a comfort to them. IF you have a problem with a child playing pretend, please understand that is a YOU issue. No teachers are SERIOUSLY getting them to think they are a cat or pushing them to do. They recognize that it provides them safety and comfort so, they may allow it at certain times.


KEep in mind folks: There is actaulyl ZERO real benefit in repeatedly telling these children that they are human and to stop kidding themselves or anything like that. They do not cognitively function like you do and they have ABSOLUTELY no idea about what the concept of "social norms" are; let alone that they "should" follow them.
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