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Ghislaine Maxwell’s move to ‘country club’ prison smacks of special treatment, experts say

Prison staff fired after leaks about Ghislaine Maxwell's special treatment: lawyer

Leah Saffian, an attorney for convicted sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell, said that staff at Federal Prison Camp Bryan were fired after details about special treatment for her client were leaked to Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MA).
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Can Truth Be Known? How

So, you tell someone they need to put God first in their life, and they ask "how do I do that?" You tell them, "there is no how. Just put God first/"
If someone said to you, "put your wife first before your kids" do you ask them how to do that or do you understand what they're saying? This is why I said pedantic. "Put God first" is self explanatory. If you're trying to find some deeper or hidden understanding, there isn't one. It just means what it says.

Did you say ptophesying?
I said people, you asked for evidence, that is my evidence as an example. People incorporates more than just prophecy, but you wanted proof, so that is proof.

Apparently you do not understand that U am not referring to people who have the truth already.
You asked me: "Can you please give a scriptural reference or quotation, in support of this?"
That is my support which incorporates people who are following Christ. Knowledge of truth is something you add onto, not something you instantly acquire and know every single thing right off the bat. Are you actually following the conversation here or are you just replying to reply?

In other words, "I am ambassadors for Christ, as though God is beseeching through us. I implore on behalf of Christ: Be reconciled to God."
So God selects individuals and rather than Christ lead them into one pen, he leads them to individual pens with a multiplicity of various conflicting doctrines?
That's not what the Bible says, does it. 1 Corinthians 1:10
You said:
"I just want to be clear.
So, are you saying that no one has truth today?"
And I clarified and said I was talking singly not in a wider group and you literally just go back to your point talking about a wider group and claim I meant something that wasn't even on topic. Again, can you follow this conversation and not just auto reply because this is getting frustrating when I have to go back and quote what you previously said to defend my response.

God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;
Hebrews 1:1, 2
You said: "Yes. How do they hear, listen, and follow?"

And I replied and everything under that response ties into the point as to why this verse doesn't apply in the context of what I'm saying.

You don't agree with Matthew 24:; Matthew 28:18-20; Romans 10:13-15, and other scriptures such as those then, which says that Jesus followers are the ones that will be carrying this good news to the world before the end comes, and Jesus will be guiding these?
Jesus's followers share the gospel, but that doesn't negate what he said about what happens during the end times, which we are in. Christs true followers are small, apostasy is rampant. People like to think that every single person who claims the name of Christ automatically means they are his sheep and we know from scripture that is not the case. If you want to learn the truth, Learn it from Christ himself.

And now, I'm going to bow out of this conversation because it's not fruitful and actually is quite irritating when you can't follow the thread and are being patronizing, and I'm tired of it. So God bless and I pray you get the answers you're looking for.
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Trumps interactions with global leaders

They've discovered that flattery gets you a nuclear submarine.
Or lower tariffs.

US agrees deal to slash Swiss tariffs to 15% after golden charm offensive

Parmelin said a move by Swiss business leaders to meet Trump in the White House last week had proved "decisive" in reaching a deal.

Industry chiefs visited the Oval Office, bearing gifts including a Rolex gold watch and a specially engraved gold bar from Swiss-based gold refining company MKS.

The role of Swiss industrialists appears to have been key, and some particularly those trading in luxury goods, gold, or commodities, already had contacts in Trump's circle.

In September, Trump appeared at the US Open tennis final in the Rolex VIP box hosted by the Swiss watch company's chief executive Jean Frédéric Dufour.

Days after the meeting, Trump was pictured in the Oval Office with what looked very much like a Rolex "Datejust" desk clock, produced by the company as a collector's item, and worth tens of thousands of dollars.

A White House official has confirmed to the BBC the two items were given to Trump.

It is quite normal nowadays for visitors to the Oval Office to come bearing a gift.
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Letita Jamews indicted for fraud

[Ex-prosecutor Joyce] Vance further added, "And, while every attorney general would likely have loved to possess a magic wand that would permit them to fix errors after the fact, that’s not how any of this works."

I think Comey gets thrown out sooner than expected. Whether intentional or from lack of experience, Halligan said they don't have a grand jury transcript to give the judge because there wasnt a court reporter. Bondi signed off that she reviewed the grand jury info.

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Special Counsel Nominee with “Nazi Streak” Withdraws After Racist Texts Revealed

At least he still gets a new job in the Trump Administration! GSA gets a Nazi streak!

Trump taps Ingrassia for new role after texting scandal

Paul Ingrassia, who withdrew his nomination to lead the Office of Special Counsel last month, says in a farewell email that he’s moving to the General Services Administration.

A White House official confirmed the move and added that Ingrassia “is a very helpful addition to GSA and will successfully execute President Trump’s America First policies.”
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Do the Ten Commandments still apply under the new covenant today?

Thank you for the post, the "deeds of the law" is referring to the old covenant law as a whole. Not just animal sacrifices because sacrifices applies when you sin and needed forgiveness, as if no sacrifices then there is no forgiveness of sin (both animal sacrifices and law goes hand in hand). The new covenant though is forgiveness by believe in the Gospel no animal sacrifices. Christ is our sacrificial lamb. Believe in Him and your sins will be forgiven.

You cannot keep any commandments given under the old covenant the lamb as was only given so we can see our sinful ways. So you can never show love by trying to keep the Sinai law.
And let's see what Paul. wrote in. HEBREWS. 9:18. !!

# 1. WHERE UPON //. HOTHEN. is an. ADVERB

# 2. NEITHER //. OUDE is an. ADVERB

# 3. THE //. HO. is a DEFINITE ARTICLE

# 4. FIRST //. PROTOS. is in. NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SIGNULAR

# 5. TESTATENT WAS. DEDICATED //. EGKAINIZO. is in. the PERFECT TENSE. , is. in the INDICATIVE MOOD in. the SINGULAR

# 6. WITH OUT // CHORIS. is an. ADVERB

# 7. BLOOD //. HAIMA in. the GENITIVE CASE , in. the SINGULAR in. the NEUTER.

# A Under the Law there had to an ALTER

# B. There had to be a PRIEST

# C There had to be a Sacrifice

#D And when. the LAMB was Slain

# E. And Jesus BLOOD is what saves

# F And that means the Law HAD TO BE SET ASIDE FOREVER. !!

# G. AND THE NEW COVENANT. is given to ISRAEL. and they are BORN AGAIN. in. EZE chapet. 36. and 37. !!

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Letita Jamews indicted for fraud

What if you (or your boss) has access to Obama's time machine?

'Making up new rules': Legal experts mock Trump DOJ over latest 'fatally flawed' move

Reuters reporter Brad Heath posted to Bluesky on Monday that Attorney General Pam Bondi claimed to have "retroactively appointed former Trump attorney Lindsey Halligan
[Ex-prosecutor Joyce] Vance further added, "And, while every attorney general would likely have loved to possess a magic wand that would permit them to fix errors after the fact, that’s not how any of this works."
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Young earth vs Old earth?

Unfortunately, I just don't think there is a clean solution to this issue. I respect your opinion. I'll just let it be.
An "opinion"... which I did not give, is far better than an idea that contradicts or conflicts with scripture.
Paul proved by references... giving evidence from the scriptures.
A servant of God must be equipped to do this.

If one is unable to use the scriptures, they are just happy with ideas that are not in agreement with the scriptures, and that is not right, is it.
Can you use Genesis 1:9-13 and Genesis 2:4-6, and demonstrate that an opinion was just offered?
No. You can't.

If you believe you can, why would you not do it?
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The Trump administration plans major shift away from long-term housing for homelessness

The Trump administration is upending its homelessness policy, with deep cuts to funding for long-term housing. Instead, it will shift money toward transitional housing that requires work and addiction treatment.

170,000 people could be at risk of losing their housing​

Critics warn the major overhaul could put 170,000 people at risk of losing their housing again. And they say the timing is terrible. Normally, funding notices go out months earlier, but now programs around the country will have little time to start applying for new funding. And in many places, it will leave a months-long gap after current funding runs out and before new money flows.

In another change, HUD will no longer automatically renew existing programs – creating the possibility that formerly homeless people who've lived in subsidized housing for years will be forced out. In fact, [HUD policy expert] Marbut said the agency expects some programs to no longer receive funding because it will go to others instead. The agency also says it's opening up more funding for faith-based groups.

The funding shift reflects a conservative backlash to longstanding policies​

For two decades, federal funding has prioritized getting people into permanent housing and then offering them treatment. That policy is called Housing First and has long had bipartisan support. Backers say the approach has a proven track record of keeping people off the streets.

Why do people hate ICE...

Arizona tribal member nearly deported after Iowa jail issues ICE detainer by mistake

The woman’s family had to scramble to prove she was Indigenous and shouldn’t be turned over to federal immigration authorities​

A day before Arizona native Leticia Jacobo was scheduled to be released from an Iowa jail, her mom visited to verify pickup details with the staff. Ericka Burns was excited to drive her daughter home after spending a month apart and wanted to make sure Jacobo wasn’t forced to wait a minute longer than necessary.

But jail staff told Burns that Jacobo wouldn’t be let go because she would be turned over to immigration agents — even though Jacobo is Native American.

The 24-year-old was born in Phoenix and is a member of Arizona’s Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community. She was booked into the Polk County Jail in Des Moines, Iowa, where she currently lives, in September for allegedly driving with a suspended license.

The ICE field office for the midwest region did not answer questions about whether they verify existing detainers for accuracy or what their processes are for ensuring Native Americans aren’t being detained.

[Aunt] Nunez told the Arizona Mirror she was skeptical that the mix-up was nothing more than a misunderstanding, and that discrimination wasn’t involved at least to some degree. She noted that Jacobo had her tribal identification with her, had been fingerprinted, had her Social Security number on file and has been booked into the same jail more than once.
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Can Truth Be Known? How

Yes because that is a condensed answer.
Then how bout expand on it and clarify instead of just making this statement? Because if I clearly misunderstood your question, it's not like I just didn't answer you. You may be tired by people giving you different answers but you could have explained your question. This is literally the entire point of following Christ because there is only 1 truth and when you get 50 other different answers, and you're relying on someone else giving you the information, that isn't going to guide you to the answer that's only going to increase confusion. In my personal opinion, you can disregard every single thing I say and everyone else. Ignore everyone and pray and ask God to guide you. Open up your bible and figure it out while you pretend to live on an island. I have seen God work time and time again this way. He shows up for people. It's a proven fact.
You're being pedantic. There is no first, second or 3rd step to putting God first, it literally just IS putting God first. Either he's first, or he isn't. If God said to you, "hey leave your job" do you tell him no because "what about my wife? I will stay for her", well that's not putting God first is it? It is a black or white scenario, either you put him first, or you don't.
So, you tell someone they need to put God first in their life, and they ask "how do I do that?" You tell them, "there is no how. Just put God first/"

The Gift of prophecy is still around as there isn't a single verse that says it was done away with and Paul still lists it among the spiritual gifts. Prophecy isn't just fortelling the future, it is being a spokesperson for God. This is why in instruction to the church, Paul says if you Prophesy, do it one at a time (1 Corinthians 14:31) so that "everyone may be instructed and encouraged." The very last 2 prophets are the two witnesses in Revelation which is in the future.
Did you say ptophesying?
Delvianna said:
God leads/guides in several different ways. Thoughts/impressions/dreams/inspiration/ and other people.​
I did not see it;

The armor of God that Paul explains in Ephesians 6. Since this was a metaphor to help people against spiritual warfare, it can absolutely be applied to testing the spirits since that in essence IS spiritual warfare. Explaining the entire metaphor and giving a breakdown of the armor of God is a whole lesson by itself and incorporates a lot, so I'm just going to leave my answer summed up to this.
Apparently you do not understand that U am not referring to people who have the truth already.

The bible doesn't spell out how he does it, just that he does. I can give you my personal experience but if you aren't interested in hearing opinions, then it doesn't matter.
Throughout the Bible it is demonstrated how Hod leads and guides.
Right, I'm not interested in opinions, thanks.

No, I'm viewing this on a personal level. Either you want to view this as a whole, or view this on a personal level. The answer differs between the two. So you as a person, when God lead and directs you, you can get stuff wrong along the way because you can misunderstand what he's trying to teach you, you can misinterpret a scripture he shows you, you can come to the wrong conclusion that he's trying to teach you. But eventually, with God's correction and guidance, you can get to truth. That's what I mean.
In other words, "I am ambassadors for Christ, as though God is beseeching through us. I implore on behalf of Christ: Be reconciled to God."
So God selects individuals and rather than Christ lead them into one pen, he leads them to individual pens with a multiplicity of various conflicting doctrines?
That's not what the Bible says, does it. 1 Corinthians 1:10

By what I stated earlier : Thoughts/impressions/dreams/inspiration/ and other people.
God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;
Hebrews 1:1, 2​

Also consider that we have a lot of apostasy in the church due to the age that we live in. We cannot rely on someone to preach to us and tell us the truth when there is a massive apostasy problem. Christ warned that in the last days there would be a great falling away from truth, and that has 100% happened. So the answers I'm giving you circumvent that problem. We have but ONE teacher (Matthew 23:8) and you can put your entire faith and trust in that Teacher, Jesus to get you to know what he wants you to know. He is our high priest forever and it's the high priests duty to teach and guide. (Hebrews 4:14)
You don't agree with Matthew 24:; Matthew 28:18-20; Romans 10:13-15, and other scriptures such as those then, which says that Jesus followers are the ones that will be carrying this good news to the world before the end comes, and Jesus will be guiding these?
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US Christian 'paedophile hunter' flew to UK; gets 7 years to help him find himself

Case dismissed against Colorado man charged with 140 counts of child pornography, "vilified in hometown"

A Brush resident's nightmare began with a knock on his door last January. When the Colorado man answered, a man wearing a chest-mounted video camera accused him of soliciting sex from a 13-year-old girl online.

The man said, "Let me tell you who I am," and boasted that he had made 471 "catches" which led to 251 arrests of people trying to have sex with children.

...

In a stunning turn of events, all the charges against Donelson were dropped last Thursday. [The images didn't match anything in the Big Database of Child Porn.] More importantly, all the files were in a cache and had never been opened. [The phone was bought used by a not very technical 78 year old.]

Despite that, his lawyer says Donelson continues to suffer from negative publicity. The Brush Police Department's Facebook posts about his investigation and arrest have not been taken down. And the video of the January encounter at his home, recorded and published by a group called the Colorado Ped Patrol, a citizen-led nonprofit that tries to expose pedophiles, remain online.

"Brush PD put his name and address on Facebook," Nicol said. "He received death threats. His house was vandalized. He's been vilified in his hometown. His family changed its name. Dentists have refused to treat him," as have doctors.

"They ruined someone's life, basically."

Nicol also described the Colorado Ped Patrol's livestreamed encounter with Donelson in front of his home in January as "entrapment."

"Frankly, Colorado Ped Patrol does more harm than good in cases like this."

Police have questioned the tactics of the Colorado Ped Patrol's founder, Tommy Fellows, before. In 2021, a metro area commandertold CBS Colorado, "I think it's a bad idea. I think a citizen vigilante group is fraught with peril."
This makes me think of modern-day Salem witch trials. Sounds like the guy has a major payday coming up when he sues the pedo hunters for defamation. Should probably go after the doctors and dentists that refused treatment as well, assuming they refused him due to the vigilante allegations.
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US Christian 'paedophile hunter' flew to UK; gets 7 years to help him find himself

Anyone else is just, at best, a keyboard warrior or a vigilante with delusions of righteousness. At worst they are just looking for an excuse to accuse or beat someone up or they are doing this stuff to hide their own deviancy.

some yes, others have good track records, and are pretty good at it, colorado ped patrol,

Case dismissed against Colorado man charged with 140 counts of child pornography, "vilified in hometown"

A Brush resident's nightmare began with a knock on his door last January. When the Colorado man answered, a man wearing a chest-mounted video camera accused him of soliciting sex from a 13-year-old girl online.

The man said, "Let me tell you who I am," and boasted that he had made 471 "catches" which led to 251 arrests of people trying to have sex with children.

...

In a stunning turn of events, all the charges against Donelson were dropped last Thursday. [The images didn't match anything in the Big Database of Child Porn.] More importantly, all the files were in a cache and had never been opened. [The phone was bought used by a not very technical 78 year old.]

Despite that, his lawyer says Donelson continues to suffer from negative publicity. The Brush Police Department's Facebook posts about his investigation and arrest have not been taken down. And the video of the January encounter at his home, recorded and published by a group called the Colorado Ped Patrol, a citizen-led nonprofit that tries to expose pedophiles, remain online.

"Brush PD put his name and address on Facebook," Nicol said. "He received death threats. His house was vandalized. He's been vilified in his hometown. His family changed its name. Dentists have refused to treat him," as have doctors.

"They ruined someone's life, basically."

Nicol also described the Colorado Ped Patrol's livestreamed encounter with Donelson in front of his home in January as "entrapment."

"Frankly, Colorado Ped Patrol does more harm than good in cases like this."

Police have questioned the tactics of the Colorado Ped Patrol's founder, Tommy Fellows, before. In 2021, a metro area commandertold CBS Colorado, "I think it's a bad idea. I think a citizen vigilante group is fraught with peril."
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What are you listening to?

Interesting transition from calm to metal. I've had a bit too much "hospital" around me lately and prefer to listen to something more uplifting. I recently found this one, who speaks about all the positivity that the lord can bring to your life. The song is called "The Goodness". Very uplifting.

Another one I came across through a friend of mine is "Shine On Me". No need to download the full version, the preview is already quite extensive and I love listening to it. It always puts me in a better mood. Just pause it before the cliffhanger at the end. :)

May god bless you all.
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No Mayor - you cannot control privately owned businesses - if they want to leave, they can.

We could have had taco trucks on every corner.
It can be fun in a diverse neighborhood. Where my son lives in Oakland the Indian guy that runs the little Mexican grocery store on the corner lets the Afghani food truck use his parking lot.
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What really is "dividing the body of Christ"??

I'll freely admit that I, at times, get a little uppity myself in my exchanges with other Christians. It mainly happens for me, as it always has since the time I first became a Christian and attended a Southern Baptist Church, when I feel I'm being falsely accused of either wrong doing or of ignorance in relation to "how I understand the Bible." Sometimes, I'll apologize if I think it's a reasonable reflection that I've actually overreacted.

But in general, I have limited patience for that sort of situation, especially since I try very hard to offer people grace and latitude by which to hold to their own perspectives on Traditional Trinitarian theology. And I EXPECT the same respect and treatment in return. I don't expect a reprimand and rebuke of my view point right out of the starting gate in a discussion or conversation, especially when I sense that another person doesn't really understand my position but ardently postures as if they do and demands of me that I unilaterally acquiesce to their superior 'spiritual wisdom.'

I understand, and the reasons you state are why sometimes I don't participate in the more ummmm...spirited :D discussions or ghost out when they become that way. Its hard to debate (or argue) with someone who is unwilling to hear the other side.

The way I look at it is this, all the various interpretations along with doctrinal, theological points have been argued by far greater minds than mine for the past 2000 years. Yet we still can't agree. We can't even agree to disagree. I believe what I believe. But, I'm willing to listen to other's views. Maybe I'll hear something that changes my outlook. Hopefully, they'll extend me the same grace. If not, then I'll nope out..



Too busy with the trees to see the forest. The entire Bible revolves around God's Will ahead of either man's or elohims but nobody is listening, too busy establishing their own territory or looking for a team to support. Add the doctrinal shackles placed on people and free thought goes out the window.

Yup - what you said about territory struck a chord with me. The various denominations are all based around various interpretations of this or that scripture to differentiate themselves from each other. To give a broad example, tongues with regard to Pentecostal or Baptist. The role of women in the church .. well I could use Pentecostal and Baptist again here.. But, to my point, we (man) have built around denominations around interpretations. Further, we've turned denominations into territories. In general, people loathe to give up territory.
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Is AI making the human race dumber?

AI has much to teach us, too.

What did that teddy bear say? Study warns parents about AI toys

When a researcher asked the teddy bear about “kink,” Kumma went into detail on the topic before asking the researcher for their sexual preferences, according to the study.

“FoloToy’s Kumma told us where to find a variety of potentially dangerous objects, including knives, pills, matches and plastic bags. This was in its default setting, using Open AI’s GPT-4o chatbot. FoloToy’s Kumma … demonstrated poor safeguards over longer interactions, even getting very sexually explicit,” the study states.
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Why Kat Von D Will Not Get Rid of an Item in Her Home Some Christians Think Is ‘Demonic’

You have to look at the point of the piece. Just because there's something "evil" looking on it, means diddly squat. People depict a battle between good and evil all the time, should we get rid of those paintings too? I think people are being hyper sensitive and are ignorant to the point. It sounds like the message of the piece is biblical and uplifting, and can be used as a teachable moment, so I personally don't see anything wrong with it and spiritual warfare is my ministry.
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