I do NOT claim to understand exactly how these Watchers managed to have children with the daughters of men because Jesus did state that full fledged "angels" do not marry and have wives and children. Perhaps the answer is in genetic engineering?
Angels, when in obedience to their Master, do not "marry and have wives and children." However, God never stated that angels are categorically incapable of sexual intercourse!
"And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day."
Of course not everyone agrees with this inteepretation.
"In the mouths of two or three witnesses every word shall be established." In Biblical matters, it is essential to always compare Scripture with Scripture. The New Testament confirmations in Jude and 2 Peter are impossible to ignore.
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell [Tartarus], and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; - 2 Peter 2:4-5
Peter's comments even establishes the time of the fall of these angels to the days of the Flood of Noah.
Even Peter's vocabulary is provocative. Peter uses the term Tartarus, here translated "hell." This is the only place that this Greek term appears in the Bible. Tartarus is a Greek term for "dark abode of woe"; "the pit of darkness in the unseen world." As used in Homer's Iliad, it is "...as far beneath hades as the earth is below heaven`." In Greek mythology, some of the demigods, Chronos and the rebel Titans, were said to have rebelled against their father, Uranus, and after a prolonged contest they were defeated by Zeus and were condemned into Tartarus.
The Epistle of Jude also alludes to the strange episodes when these "alien" creatures intruded themselves into the human reproductive process:
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. - Jude 6-7
The allusions to "going after strange flesh," keeping "not their first estate," having "left their own habitation," and "giving themselves over to fornication," seem to clearly fit the alien intrusions of Genesis 6. (The term for habitation,
oiketerion, refers to their heavenly bodies from which they had disrobed. The only other use in the New Testament is 2 Corinthians 5:2, alluding to the heavenly body which the believer longs to be clothed.)
Also, the Biblical term "Sons of Elohim" (that is, of the Creator Himself), is confined to the direct creation by the divine hand and not to those born to those of their own order. [The sons of Elohim are even contrasted with the sons of Adam in Psalm 82:1, 6 and warned that if they go on with the evil identified in verse 2, they would die like Adam (man). When our Lord quoted this verse (John 10:34), he made no mention of what order of beings God addressed in this Psalm but that the Word of God was inviolate whether the beings in question were angels or men.]
In Luke's genealogy of Jesus, only Adam is called a "son of God" (Luke 3:38). The entire Biblical drama deals with the tragedy that humankind is a fallen race, with Adam's initial immortality forfeited. Christ uniquely gives them that receive him the power to become the sons of God (John 1:11-12). Being born again of the Spirit of God, as an entirely new creation (2 Cor. 5:17), at their resurrection they alone will be clothed with a building of God (2 Cor. 5:1-4), and in every respect equal to the angels (Luke 20:36). The very term
oiketerion, alluding to the heavenly body with which the believer longs to be clothed, is the precise term used for the heavenly bodies from which the fallen angels had disrobed. [This term appears only twice in the Bible: 2 Corinthians 5:2 and Jude 1:6.]
The attempt to apply the term "Sons of Elohim" in a broader sense has no textual basis and obscures the precision of its denotative usage. This proves to be an assumption which is antagonistic to the uniform Biblical usage of the term.
Your thesis though would hinder redemption for ant human with mixed blood. Jesus saved mankind, not a being part man and part demon. So i think its impossible for demons since noah to cross that domain.
So the gist of the question seems to revolve around the "mixed blood" aspect.
The demon DNA is no longer a thing. During the time of Jesus, it seemed to be demons affecting people's minds only.
Demons (property, devils) were the cause of many physical maladies, as today.
There is a theory that the wives of Noah's sons may have carried perverted DNA from before the flood and subsequently passed it into the post-flood gene pool. Hence, it would be possible that the post-flood giants re-emerged naturally. The wife of Ham is a suspect because it seems the giants were his descendants.
What we do know is: There were giants in the earth in those days;
and also after that (Gen. 6:4).
Why is the name "Azazel" included in the original Hebrew of Leviticus 16?
That's all about the
scapegoat ritual i.e. the entire removal of sin and guilt from sacred places into the desert on the back of a goat, a symbol of entire forgiveness (see Lev. 16:8). Azazel is a fallen angel.
According to God, and all Scripture, they never , not ever, not even once, had nor could have had 'children' or reproduce.
Again, there is nothing found scripturally that states angels are
incapable of sexual intercourse.
I used to believe that the Giants came about from fallen angels and human women. I have an inconclusive belief about it now.
There's a book called "God's Word to Women" by Katharine C. Bushnell who addresses the fallen angels and human women belief. According to her, Hebrews did not hold this belief until the Intertestamental period; I found an alike claim on Wikipedia. Bushnell believed that angels had the inability to be sexual and could not be given in marriage.
Bushnell was a forerunner of feminist theology. She wrote her own book as a correction of mistranslation and misinterpretation of the Holy Bible.
Also, "could not be given in marriage" does
not imply that such marriage is an impossibility. To "not be given in marriage" simply means that said marriage is not sanctioned (
see what it means to be "given in marriage").
Where did the giants come from then ?
It's Genesis 6 again:
As far as the bible is concerned, we are not told. There is a verse in Genesis 6 that mentions giants:
“There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who [were] of old, men of renown.” (
Ge 6:4 NKJV)
But that verse does not say who the "sons of God" were. Not angels, because they are spiritual beings:
“And of the angels He says: “Who makes His angels spirits And His ministers a flame of fire.”” (
Heb 1:7 NKJV)
"Giants" appears 11 times in the bible, but apart from
Genesis 6:4, none of them says anything about the origin of those giants.
We
do know who the "sons of God" were.
The term translated "the Sons of God" is, in the Hebrew,
B'nai HaElohim, "Sons of Elohim," which is a term
consistently used in the Old Testament for
angels, and it is
never used of believers in the Old Testament. It was so understood by the ancient rabbinical sources, by the Septuagint translators in the 3rd century before Christ, and by the early church fathers. (BTW, attempts to apply this term to "godly leadership" is without Scriptural foundation.)
Well we don't have to look very far to find out.
Job 1:6
6
One day the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them. 7“Where have you come from?” said the LORD to Satan. “From roaming through the earth,” he replied, “and walking back and forth in it.”…
Indeed.
Yes, angels are there referred to as sons of God. But as I said, the bible tells us that angels are spirits. Spirits cannot have sexual intercourse with human women to make them pregnant. So the sons of God in
Genesis 6:4 cannot have been angels.
and
God never said that. His Word Says throughout that [the watchers coming down and having kids] cannot happen.
Again, those are opinions and not scriptural truth.
The nephilim, (fallen ones) were part angelic and part human. So when they died in the flood their disembodied spirit became the demons, that are seen in The Bible.
There are many "classes" of disobedient angels, and with varying characteristics and powers. For example, it wasn't the Nephilim who were drowned in the flood. The Nephilim were those who left their first (heavenly) estate (Jude) and mated with earthly women who then bore children who grew quite large (aka giants). it was those giants who were drowned in the subsequent flood of Noah's day. So now we have those disembodied spirits of the giants roaming the earth, within the firmament, once again seeking embodiment to act out their wicked nature.
There are 36 tribes of giants (see end of post) mentioned in the Holy Bible (you didn't hear that from your hireling pastors). The giants interbred with everything in sight, including animals. The giants were also cannibalistic. This is the key to prophecy, the reason why God executed the entire planet via the flood, except for Noah's eight (because his generation was perfect i.e. was not interbred with the giants).
The disembodied spirits of the giants are what we refer to as devils or demons; they are not eligible for salvation; they remain in the air about us everywhere; and they seek physical embodiment in us in order to act out their wicked nature.
In post-flood times,
it was commonly understood that disobedient and malevolent angels had mated with earthly women. For example, we all recall the endless debates surrounding the issue of head coverings for women. But we've missed a big clue. The head covering thing is all about the application of proper authority, in terms of proper spiritual alignment, such that we all remain protected. Specifically, in this instance, we're talking about the woman.
The clue is here:
"For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head
because of the angels." (verse 10)
It was a commonly accepted belief that a repeat of the Genesis chapter 6 episode, where fallen angels mated with earthly women, was not only possible but probable. IOW, these rebellious and malevolent angels remain highly desirous of earthly women. And that is why it's still vital to this day that our women remain "under cover."
There are dozens of tribes of giants found in
the Holy Bible:
Amalekites, Amorites, Anakim, Ashdodites, Ashkelonites (Eshkalonites), Avvim, Avites, Canaanites, Caphtorim, Ekronites, Emim (Emins),
Gazites (Gazathites), Geshurites , Gibalites (Giblites), Gibeonites, Girgashites, Gittites, Hittites, Hivites, Horites (Horims), Jebusites, Kadmonites, Kenites, Kenizzites, Maacathites, Manassites, Nephilim, Perizzites, Philistines, Rephaim, Sidonians, Zamzummim, and the Zuzim.
- Amalekites are mentioned 25 times
- Amorites are mentioned 87 times
- Anakim are mentioned 9 times
- Ashdodites are mentioned 4 times
- Ashkelonites (Eshkalonites) are mentioned 1 time
- Avvim are mentioned 3 times
- Canaanites are mentioned 21 times but not all Canaanites peoples were giants.
- Caphtorim are mentioned 2 times
- Ekronites are mentioned 2 times
- Emim (aka Emins) are mentioned 3 times
- Gazites (Gazathites) are mentioned 2 times
- Geshurites are mentioned 6 times
- Gibeonites are mentioned 8 times
- Gibalites (Giblites) are mentioned 2 times
- Girgashites are mentioned 7 times
- Gittites are mentioned 10 times
- Hittites are mentioned 48 times
- Hivites are mentioned 25 times
- Horites (Horims) are mentioned 7 times
- Jebusites are mentioned 41 times
- Kadmonites are mentioned 1 time
- Kenites are mentioned 11 times
- Kenizzites are mentioned 4 times
- Maacathites are mentioned 8 times
- Manassites are mentioned 4 times
- Nephilim are mentioned 2 times
- Perizzites are mentioned 23 times
- Philistines are mentioned 290 times but many Philistines were not giants.
- Rephaim are mentioned 18 times
- Sidonians are mentioned 16 times
- Zamzummim are mentioned 1 time
- Zuzim are mentioned 1 time
That is a total of 688 mentions of tribes, people groups, or nations of (or containing) giants.
There are 19 giants that are named specifically in the Holy Bible:
- Adoni-zedek (aka Adonizedek, Adonizedec), King of Jerusalem, is mentioned 2 times
- Agag, King of the Amalakites, is mentioned 8 times
- Ahiman (anakim) is mentioned 4 times
- Amalek is mentioned 24 times
- Arba is mentioned 3 times
- Gog is mentioned 11 times
- Magog is mentioned 5 times
- Goliath is mentioned 6 times
- Hoham, King of Hebron, is mentioned 1 time
- Horam, King of Gezer, is mentioned 1 time
- Jabin, King of Hazor, is mentioned 7 times
- Jobab, King of Madon, is mentioned 9 times
- Lahmi is mentioned 1 time
- Nimrod is mentioned 4 times
- Og of Bashan is mentioned 22 times
- Sheshai (anakim) is mentioned 3 times
- Sihon, King of the Amorites, is mentioned 39 times
- Sippai is mentioned 1 time
- Talmai (anakim) is mentioned 6 times
That is a total of 157 mentions of specific giants.
688 + 157 =
845 total references to individual giants, tribes, and people groups that included or were associated with giants in the Holy Bible.
Be blessed .. !
