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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist




Luke 4: 43 but he said to them, “I must preach the good news of the kingdom of God to the other towns as well; for I was sent for this purpose.”
Thank you for acknowledging that the Lord Jesus only came to save Gods elect. Your verse proves that, because the Jews thought that He only came to save them, but He told them the awful truth that nobody is saved by their ethnicity.

Revelation 7:9-10
[9] After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, [10] and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!”

The people mentioned in the above verses are Gods elect, He chose us for salvation, before time began.
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The Venting Thread

Uggghll, I'm irritated. So, I quickly pop into the school to grab some books I need for lesson planning. On my way out, I close my classroom door. It automatically locks. The moment I hear the lock click, I remember that my classroom and car keys are still sitting on my desk!

On Monday morning, I can ask a janitor to let me in—but until then, I can't re-enter my classroom or use my car. Now I can't go to church tomorrow :( I would walk, but the temperatures are below freezing and we've gotten a few inches of snow this weekend. I also considered asking for a ride, but I don't have a phone number for anyone who attends my church. I don't have any friends or family in town to give me a lift either. Isolation makes things so difficult...
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Hello!

Hello! My name is Emily. I am twenty years old and I'm new the forum!

My life thus far has been defined by isolation, rejection, and mental suffering. I never felt like I could connect with anyone, and I saw how many others in the world were suffering too. It destroyed my trust in God for years and I stopped calling myself a Christian. One night when I was seventeen, I wanted to take my own life, but I had the urge to pray for the first time in years. Then the Holy Spirit told me to read my untouched New Testament. That's where my story began - at what seemed like the end.

Right now, I'm enduring another period of complete isolation and even heartbreak, but I am also more strengthened than ever in Christ. Although I'm very shy, I am also glad to be on this forum among fellow believers. :) Thank you for having me!

Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

Asking your beliefs about certain biblical verses is most definitely a biblical question.
Everybody knows what I believe, but if someone asks me to comment on a false interpretation of a scripture, then I must simply call it out for what it is. If I accept the false premiss, then it means I agree with the premiss, but since I reject the premiss to begin with, I'm not obliged to take the Kool Aid to begin with.
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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

30 Bible verses about Annihilation

Please do not wait, I do not care if my face is blue, but here indeed is what you say is not there.
I know you don't care to defend your wild, unbiblical theory. That's why you tried to deceive me by twisting the meaning of those 30 verses, to force them to say what they are not saying. That is to abuse Gods Word, He said who ever adds or takes away a single Word from what He has said, will suffer the plagues described in the book of revelation, they include eternal torment in the lake of fire.

I would be very afraid, if someone bought something this awful about my religion to y attention.

As I have been telling you over and over again, no such silly nonsense exists in the Bible. So why are you hellbent on fabricating something that doesn't exist.
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Today I learned...

Today I tasted my first banana "heart." Which basically is the flower of the banana that can be cooked and eaten. It was wrapped in a salad dressing that looked like shredded chicken from a catfood can. I tasted this mainly Asian food, and found it to be quite good.

"A banana heart is the fleshy, teardrop-shaped flower that hangs at the end of a banana cluster. It can be eaten raw or cooked and is a traditional food in many parts of Asia and India. The edible parts, which have a meaty texture similar to an artichoke heart, require preparation like peeling the outer layers and soaking in an acidulated water solution to reduce bitterness and browning before use in dishes like salads, curries, and soups"

Here is someone else who blogged about it (with photo) Hearts of Banana
Interesting! I think the most interesting food I've ever eaten was a century egg. My Developmental Psychology professor, a woman from Taiwan, offered century eggs to the whole class, but only a couple of us were willing to try them. I felt very proud of my bravery lol. But in defense of those who opted not to try, the stench was absolutely terrible.

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I started a new book today. A memoir written by Brian Johnson, singer of AC/DC.

When the band was touring in 2015, Brian had developed an ear problem that would not go away. He finally saw the doctor. The doctor explained to him that the fever he had during the tour caused fluid build up in his ears. Then the untreated fluid had crystallized! The doctor told him he had to be operated on and that he had to use a chisel to get the crystals out! :oops:
My dad loves AC/DC. Back when he coached my travel basketball team, he always played "Thunderstruck" during practices. And oof, that does not sound pleasant. I had no idea that doctors using chisels to break crystallized earwax was a thing. Very bizarre. There are so many things that can go wrong with the human body; it's a miracle that it works as well as it does most of the time.
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Washed and clothed in Christ: The beauty of the Sacrament of Holy Baptism

I can’t even think of a heretical sect that believes that, except perhaps the Mandaeans, who use baptism to maintain ritual purity, but that’s not the same as sinlessness.

I don't even think we can place the Mandaeans in the realm of heretical sects--theirs is a fully de-Christianized gnosticism; given that they consider Jesus to be a false prophet. I actually don't know how to properly classify Mandaeanism, it's almost its own religion--as distinct from Christianity as Islam is.
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"14 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? 15 And how can anyone preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!” Romans 10:14-15 NIV

"The word gospel comes from the Old English god meaning "good" and spel meaning "news, a story." Gospel - Definition, Meaning & Synonyms

Gospel = good news, it does not mean "awful truth".

Agreed, but where is the awful part? You are supposed to be explaining what is so terrible with this verse, where is the bad news?



Agreed, but where is the awful part? You are supposed to be explaining what is so terrible with this verse, where is the bad news?


"6 For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,”[a] made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of God’s glory displayed in the face of Christ. 7 But we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this all-surpassing power is from God and not from us. 8 We are hard pressed on every side, but not crushed; perplexed, but not in despair; 9 persecuted, but not abandoned; struck down, but not destroyed. 10 We always carry around in our body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our body. 11 For we who are alive are always being given over to death for Jesus’ sake, so that his life may also be revealed in our mortal body. 12 So then, death is at work in us, but life is at work in you. 13 It is written: “I believed; therefore I have spoken.”[b] Since we have that same spirit of[c] faith, we also believe and therefore speak, 16 Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. 17 For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all." 2 Corinthians 4 6-17 NIV

The Good News that is the gospel of Jesus Christ, in which Satan is defeated.


"12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it." John 14 12 - 13 NIV

More good news here. Simply ask the Father to draw you, invite the vital spirit of God to remove Satan from oneself or another, and no awful truth is going.



"37 I know that you are Abraham’s descendants. Yet you are looking for a way to kill me, because you have no room for my word." John 8 37 NIV

You are citing a specific group of people who are seeking to kill Jesus at the time when He was on earth in human form here. This verse does not reference everyone who has not been taught by your preacher.

Although your point, yes, it is true, it is again not awful though...Jesus knows who is trying to kill Him, well being omniscient He would.

Now here is why none of the verses that you have provided actually explain what is so awful and terrible...

"3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it." John 1 3-5 NIV

There it is...the good news.
Again, you failed to take into consideration that there are only two types of people in existence. We have Gods children and the children of the Devil, there are no bastards among Gods people.

Now that we have established that fact, we can take a proper look at the verses you tried to force your private opinion on. Now the gospel is suddenly awful to the vast majority of mankind, because it confirms that they are going to spend eternity being tormented in hell fire. What could be more awful than that new????...

You can twist the scriptures any way you like but you will never change the awful truth of thew gospel.
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Are there still Apostles today?

Paul stated the entire group of people and their roles as they spread the Gospel through the centuries.
Correct - he never said it would end.
In other words, there is a train of evidence and they were all appointed for a specific purpose.
Still are (everyone of them)
Just because the first few are no longer in service there still remains those who carry the message under different roles, a gift by His Holy Spirit.
That is where we differ I don't believe the 'first dew are no longer in service".
As far as demarcation, there is no need for that as there is a seamless connection in the Body of Christ and in the Kingdom of God.
Correct - and each are still needed today.
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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

I wasn't worried about that, or as your prior post indicated IDing the "trigger puller". That naval aviator may be facing charges for violating the laws of armed combat and should be investigated as to that. I'm more concerned about the chain of command (who is giving the order) both live during the action and in standing orders for the mission. The aircraft was almost certainly in radio contact with the carrier. Who gave these orders?
That might not have been a normal chain of command. The carrier group may have delivered an "operational group" to the area, and that operational group's chain of command might have skipped the naval chain entirely.
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Trump Says US Will Permanently Pause Migration From 'Third World Countries'

The third world countries are the real threat! Wake up! They are the ones with the cartels, who use their own people to smuggle the drugs into this country, which poisons our population with mind altering substances, causing them to fail in education, lose the jobs they can get, become unemployable going forward, and then eventually, off to prison.
Our population could always stop taking illegal drugs.
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Trump Says US Will Permanently Pause Migration From 'Third World Countries'

Why don't we just allow the Heritage Foundation to hand-pick the wealthy and/or well-connected, race appropriate, individuals they want to allow into the country? That'd be much easier and great for the entire nation.. doncha' think?
That's actually what many conservatives want.
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University of Minnesota on Whiteness Pandemic

Staying on the OP topic, I recommend you just do a Google search on the Samalia fraud ring in Minnesota and it's connection to the Al Shabab terrorist group. I will wait.
Want me to point out all the fraud committed by conservative native-born Americans? We can start with the president you champion all the time. Or does fraud only bother you when it’s committed by immigrants? Would you like me to paint you guys with such a broad brush?

It was entirely relevant to your comments. You rolled a 3 on deflection and failed miserably.
I was talking about national creeds and for some reason you brought up wokeness. My comment was only related to “wokeness” if your understanding of the word is so course that it covers everything you don’t like.
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Chat Thread - Millennials Edition

So true, every older generation complains about the younger but also true that the younger generations today have been screwed up by tech that we're only now realizing the effects of what we did (social media, etc).

What generation are you from?

My music style has changed drastically. As a teen, I liked rock, Pop, and ska but now, I prefer modern classical, Christian rock, and even some Christian rap as long as it isn't mumble rap.
Indeed, I'm from 1970 in Europe - and grew up without television, telephone or internet. So brought up with Classical music mainly (and church organ music :) ) but then learned to appreciate any style of music. I like gripping melodies or irresistible rhythms, listen to English, Dutch, Hebrew and even Arabic (Christian songs) .. I studied/work in IT (developing AI applications now) - it's quite a contrast with my childhood.

Church-wise I've seen (Dutch) Reformed churches (Calvinism), Baptist churches, Brethern churches, Anglican churches, Evangelical/Pentecostal, Messianic felllowships, Roman Catholic churches, ethnic churches. Church boundaries don't matter to me anymore although I do have my preferences of course. Understanding what I believe and why churches believe what they teach, studying the Bible, its history and Church/theology history is one of my passions. Yet knowing God and His Son Yeshua from the heart is infinitely more important than knowing about God and all those dry facts. It's my journey in life.
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Hail storms

I suppose I should add the big concern is whether this is going to become an increasing occurrence with climate change.

Insurance premiums have been going up steadily over the last few years, and natural disasters have a lot to do with it.

This link shows what is called "disaster activations" in Queensland since 2010.


The hailstorm which hit us, and most severely a suburbs called Springfield Lakes, is shown under 2020.

Far North Queensland Low Pressure System, 15 - 26 April 2021
Southern Queensland Severe Weather, 20 – 31 March 2021
Tropical Cyclone Niran and Associated Low Pressure System, 25 February – 3 March 2021
Far North Queensland Tropical Low, 24 – 30 January 2021
Tropical Cyclone Imogen and Associated Low Pressure System, 2 – 12 January 2021
Western Queensland Thunderstorms 21-30 December 2020
South East Queensland Coastal Trough, 12-15 December 2020
Gumlow Bushfire, 21- 26 November 2020
K’gari (formerly Fraser Island) Bushfires, 9 November 2020 – 23 December 2020
South East Queensland Hailstorm, 31 October 2020
Kooralbyn Bushfire, 12 - 19 October 2020

The insurance bill from that alone was $980 million AUD.


Within 24 hours of 31 October, the Insurance Council of Australia declared the natural disaster a catastrophe with the damage bill currently at $980 million. Insurers have received more than 42,000 claims as at 23 June 2021.
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