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Hentenza · 2025-11-16T19:31:33-0600

HIM said:
Paul says not I, the evil that he would not, that he does in verse 7:19. He continues to say in respect to that he finds a law and that this law is that when he would do good evil is present with him in verse 7:21. Then he says that he delights in the Law of God in his inner man but sees this other Law warring against the Law of God that is in his inner man. And this other law is the Law of sin, that Evil that he would not but does that is present with Him even though He would do Good, the Law that He delights in, the Law of God that is in his members. This is put forward in verse 23. Then in verse 24 he cries out in despair asking, who shall deliver him from this body of death. For the wages of sin is death. In this state he knows his hope and proclaims that through Christ Jesus he thanks God in that he serves the Law of God with His mind, but alas his flesh serves this Law of sin, that law that when he would do good evil is present with Him in his flesh.

Chapter 8 says the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set us free from this law of sin and the wages of it, death. For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, condemned sin in the flesh. That power it had over us. that the righteousness of the Law of God that He delights in be fulfilled in us, who walk after the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus and not after the flesh. For if we walk after the flesh we shall die. But if we mortify the deeds of the body we shall live.

Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Ok but the in chapter 8 the first verse begins with “therefore” which means that a conclusion of the previous argument is forthcoming. So therefore there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ. Do what does that mean? Why is there no condemnation to all that are in Christ?

bbbbbbb · 2025-11-16T19:27:14-0600

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Fervent · 2025-11-16T19:26:31-0600

RDKirk said:
I have to agree with that (and was about to say it myself).

I'd rather live in Saudi Arabia than North Korea.

Yep, and truth be told there's a lot that pluralistic societies leave to be desired. Threats of theocracy are largely just scare mongering with no real recognition that they, too, can run from relatively liberal such as the Persian empire was under Zoroastrianism to more totalitarian forms such as Islamic caliphates. Theocracy just isn't an inherently scary term to me.

FireDragon76 · 2025-11-16T19:24:53-0600

RDKirk said:
As I've explained before, the DNC has been controlled by Critical Theory ideologists since 2008. The struggle at the top between the old guard liberals and the CT ideologists occurred from 2008 through 2020, with the infighting being visible in hindsight. Clinton (old-school liberal) was rather suddenly replaced by Obama (a CT ideologist).

Yang, Klobuchar, Gabbard and some others are younger, but not CT ideologists, so they had to go...permanently. Sanders was neutered ( some of the Democratic Party rank-and-file did notice that, but didn't understand what was happening). Others of the Old Guard like Pelosi and Warren just decided to quietly let their clocks run out. Biden was senile enough to be controlled. The ones you see in good standing in the DNC right now are firm CT ideologists. But notice that none of them are Party leaders. The Party is run by committee and will pick an appropriate mouthpiece when the time comes.

Both Clinton and Obama had more in common in terms of actual politics. Both were committed to managerial neoliberalism, and both heavily shaped by the New Left consensus that tried to come to terms with the Reagan revolution. Clinton could just pour effusive southern warmth into everything, whereas Obama was seen as aloof (and largely that was correct).

Dan Perez · 2025-11-16T19:24:48-0600

A Devil's Advocate said:
How many of you believe you understand the significance of God tearing the temple curtain from top to bottom at the moment of Christ's death? If I go by what I hear being taught in our churches, social media platforms, podcasts, and books I've read, I would hazard a guess that very few do. If you did you would most likely be at odds with the rest of the Christian community. Most often it seems that conformity will always trump over truth. If someone hears the same thing a thousand times by a thousand different people, then it must be true.

At the moment of Christ's death, God tore the temple curtain, 60ft tall and 4inces thick, from top to bottom. Why?

This curtain stood as a physical representation of the barrier that stood separating man from God. Within the temple it separated the Holy Place from the Most Holy Place where the presence of God dwelt. No one was allowed into the presence of God. Only the High Priest, and only once a year after he had been cleansed of his sins, could he then enter into God's presence. In other words, no one guilty of sin is allowed into the presence of a Holy God. And it is this truth alone that makes the tearing of the temple curtain so significant yet overlooked.

Two major truths were revealed when the temple curtain was torn that most people miss.

First, the barrier that stood between man and God was removed. If there is no more barrier separating man from God, then anyone can now enter into the presence of God. If anyone can now enter into the presence of God, then everyone must already be cleansed of their sins. Something the Israelites of the day would have understood this to mean (the good news of the Gospel). No one still guilty of sin can come into the presence of God. This has never changed. It remains as true today as it was before Christ's death. What has changed is we've all been cleansed (forgiven) of our sins. We've all come into the world forgiven of our sins with an invitation to enter into a relationship with God, free of any guilt or shame. Which brings me to the second truth that was revealed....

Forgiveness of sins does not save us. These are not the same thing, but two uniquely different, and separate, events. From our perspective, forgiveness is a historical fact. It is a completed act that holds true for all of mankind. The shedding of blood can only forgives sin, it cannot save us. It does not bring about new spiritual life (a relationship with God). It simply makes the possibility of salvation a reality. Salvation only happens when we choose, of our own freewill, to enter into a relationship with God through faith. You can be forgiven and not be saved, but you can't be saved without having first been forgiven.

Also, Salvation is not salvation if it is only temporary. That would merely be a reprieve from your current condition, not a permanent reality. For example; say we both jumped out of an airplane and your parachute didn't open, but I caught you and held on to you with my parachute open, but before we landed I decide to let you go. Were you saved when I first caught you? No. It was just a reprieve from your current condition. In the end, you were just a messy spot on the ground. Salvation must be a permanent reality (eternal) or it is not salvation.

So of course, for salvation to be eternal, there can be no possibility of losing it. For this to be a reality, all sin would need to be forgiven before salvation could be offered. Likewise, forgiveness cannot take place after or even at the moment of salvation. It must happen before salvation. Remember, forgiveness is what makes entering into God's presence possible in the first place in order to receive salvation.

And you did hit on. some good points .

#. 1 It did away with. with. ATONEMENT. and no. more ALTAR. , or PRIEST or SACRIFICES

# 2 And. CHRIST who. is MELCHIZEKDEK. will be HIGH PRIEST DURING. THE. MILLENNIAL KINGDOM

# 3. Israel has been set aside ACTS 28.:25-28.

# 4. And set aside also. by Heb. 9:18.

# 5. And now GENTILES will be saved

# 6 Bur Jews can. be saved as written in. 2 Cor. 13-18. by GRACE

HAVE TO GO. !!

dan p

HIM · 2025-11-16T19:20:52-0600

Hentenza said:
“Therefore there is now no condemnation at all for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭8‬:‭1‬-‭4‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Romans 8:1-4 Therefore there is now no condemnation at all for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law c | New American Standard Bible - NASB

Therefore there is now no condemnation at all for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law c

bible.com

What does these verses mean to you? Why does Paul say that there is no condemnation for those in Christ?

Paul says not I, the evil that he would not, that he does in verse 7:19. He continues to say in respect to that he finds a law and that this law is that when he would do good evil is present with him in verse 7:21. Then he says that he delights in the Law of God in his inner man but sees this other Law warring against the Law of God that is in his inner man. And this other law is the Law of sin, that Evil that he would not but does that is present with Him even though He would do Good, the Law that He delights in, the Law of God that is in his members. This is put forward in verse 23. Then in verse 24 he cries out in despair asking, who shall deliver him from this body of death. For the wages of sin is death. In this state he knows his hope and proclaims that through Christ Jesus he thanks God in that he serves the Law of God with His mind, but alas his flesh serves this Law of sin, that law that when he would do good evil is present with Him in his flesh.

Chapter 8 says the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set us free from this law of sin and the wages of it, death. For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, condemned sin in the flesh. That power it had over us. that the righteousness of the Law of God that He delights in be fulfilled in us, who walk after the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus and not after the flesh. For if we walk after the flesh we shall die. But if we mortify the deeds of the body we shall live.

Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

rockytopva · 2025-11-16T19:20:19-0600

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RDKirk · 2025-11-16T19:19:31-0600

Fervent said:
"Secular" could be any form of governance, since it just means worldly or related to the world. It's an empty term when it comes to government, and could describe anything from a democratic republic to a monarchy to a totalitarian communist government. it's simply not a meaningful term. So I see no reason to give preference to a secular government purely on the basis of its secularity, as I would much rather live under a magnanimous theocracy than a totalitarian "secular" government. The categories simply leave far too many possibilities open.

I have to agree with that (and was about to say it myself).

I'd rather live in Saudi Arabia than North Korea.

Hentenza · 2025-11-16T19:19:06-0600

Socialism is yet to work anywhere. At the end of the day it’s just about using someone else’s money and that is always bound to run out. Even Scandinavian countries that claim democratic socialism are highly capitalistic.

Douggg · 2025-11-16T19:19:05-0600

keras said:
For anyone to be scathing and critical about things like a new Temple, the risk of opposing God's Word is far greater than for me to post Prophesies which do tell of a new Temple.

It will be Jews (Judaism) who will build the next temple, not Christians.

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Fervent · 2025-11-16T19:17:26-0600

Oompa Loompa said:
Red herrings now?

Calling something a fallacy does not make it so. You've provided nothing to substantiate your allegations which would require you demonstrate that the problem, to the extent that it exists, is unique to liberal run cities rather than just being a symptom of cities of a large enough size.

RDKirk · 2025-11-16T19:17:25-0600

Hans Blaster said:
I personally have not had any encounters with "critical theory". I did once go to a lecture on String Theory. Could it be worse than that?

Since the lineage of this post includes mine about the failures to distinguish the gradients of the left portion of the political "spectrum", I was a bit disappointed to see this mashup of "Democrats", the "Left" and "deconstruction", while complaining about discernment of the "left" of some Christian stuff.

Capital "D" Democrats and the capital "L" Left aren't exactly on speaking terms. If you meant the portion of the "political spectrum" past the middle relative to the conservatives/right (or vice versa) that includes most Democrates it is just lower case "left".

Roughly the labels for the positions on the Democrats/left scale from right to left are:

Conservative Dems, Centrist Dems, mainstream/normie Dems, Liberals, Progressives, Democratic Socialists (and somewhere around here we run out of Dems), Socialists, Anarcho sydicalists, Communists.

With the DS roughtly separating the Dems (to their right) from "The Left".

They may not, but I don't know any such persons. I've run into some "Leftists" on regular social media, but they mostly spend their time complaining about the Dems and how far right the Dems are. Since what follows is a bunch of Christian stuff, I have no idea what their "spiritual' positions are. The political spectrum is a poor determinant of that.

The biggest problem with the "Bee" is that it isn't funny. Their content is often bigoted and they often "punch down".

I ran in to Lewis in grade school and his literature was blech. More recently I've run into his "apologetics" second hand and it isn't any better than apologetics of "cold case detective" turned apologist J. Warner Wallace. Not the best arguments in an already dire genre. I know you are fond of your friend Mr. Screwtape, but I can't for the life of me figure out why.

Wouldn't that be some sort of "analytic" literary analysis? It's not something I know or care to know. I think you'd need some sort of lit. major. "Critical theory" is itself an analytic framework for social sciences. It's one of many such frameworks, but I had one course in college that engaged in analysis in the social sciences. I do remember doing "Marxist analysis" (socioeconomic) analysis as part of that class.

Deconsruction? Isn't that the thing the kids call deconverting from religion now-a-days?

Are you wanting to complain about non-belivers not liking your Christian media ("humor" and "buck up lit") and confusing us with "The Left"?

Critical Theory is the removal of economics from Marxism. That's not me saying so...the creators of Critical Theory stated that up front.

Critical Theory can thus be applied to a number of other movements. But one central component of Critical Theory brought over from Marxism is the proposal of eternal class conflict between Oppressor and Oppressed, which in Critical Theory is not economic class but other classifications such as race and sex.

Thus, in Critical Race Theory, the eternal class conflict is and will _always_ be between whites and non-whites. In this eternal conflict of Critical Theory, there can never be reconciliation, treaty, or compromise between whites and non-whites.

In Radical Feminism, the eternal class conflict is between males and females with males as the oppressors, and there can never be reconciliation, treaty, or compromise between them.

The only acceptable outcome in Critical Theory is vanquishing the Oppressor.

FireDragon76 · 2025-11-16T19:14:50-0600

Hans Blaster said:
He may be the last boomer president, but the Trump admin is still a Christian Nationalist operation from #2 on down.

On second thought it was probably reference to his preference for Guns 'n' Roses.

Trump peddles in nostalgia and grievance but the agenda he represents (and such as it is), is pretty far from anything taught by Jesus of Nazareth.

RDKirk · 2025-11-16T19:11:32-0600

BCP1928 said:
The question is, why critical theory?? I have the impression that the right would like to bundle all that the left does that they don't like into that one package. What's so powerful about it?

At this point in time, Critical Theory is the ideology of the Democratic Party leadership. It hasn't always been--it's a relatively recent development--but it's what the Party is running with right now.

Oompa Loompa · 2025-11-16T19:08:33-0600

Fervent said:
In what way? You are claiming this is a problem unique to liberal run cities, rather than just being a big city problem. I see no reason to find that thesis compelling.

Red herrings now?

Shane R · 2025-11-16T19:08:32-0600

Paidiske said:
And, on the other side, if you had a really bad morning, you ought to console yourself.

No? Just me?

That's what the ice cream stands are for. Although they'll be closing for the winter soon. One already did.

Bro.T · 2025-11-16T19:06:07-0600

People make the mistake of trying to separate them selves from history. They think that because these events happened so long ago, that they have no bearing on what's happening today. Had not the depression of 1929 happened, we would not have the safeguards in place today to prevent the devastation of an economic crash. Our recent economic crash called Black Tuesday was nothing compared to the crash of 1929. Had not Jesus died on the cross some 2000yrs. ago, there would be no such thing as faith in God and repentance from sin. People would still be getting stoned to death on the spot for transgressing God's law. So, what happened in the past has an effect on us today and the one thing that happened in the past that has a profound effect on us is man's iniquity. In the days of Adam, his iniquity brought death to himself and all mankind. "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" (Romans 5:12)

In the days of Noah, God destroyed man from the face of the earth because of his wickedness (iniquity). "And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And the LORD said,” I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them." But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. And God looked upon the earth, and behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth." (Genesis 6:5-13). As a result of Noah's righteousness, only he, his wife, his three sons and their wives were saved from destruction.

Now, in these the last days, God has said that because of the overspreading of iniquity; (iniquity is one of the signs and factors of the end of the world). “And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to show him the buildings of the temple. And Jesus said unto them, “See ye not all these things? Verily I say unto you, there shall not be left here one stone upon another that shall not be thrown down.” And as he sat upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately saying,” Tell us, when shall these things be and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?”; “Because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold, but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the entire world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come." (St. Matthew 24:1-3 & 12-14)

So lets take an in depth look at iniquity, its origin and effect on man throughout history. in·iq·ui·ty (î-nîk¹wî-tê) noun 1. Gross immorality or injustice; wickedness. 2. A grossly immoral act; a sin.

Jesus was speaking to some of the Jews that believed in him and he told them that, "If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. They in turn told Jesus that they were Abraham's seed and that they were in bondage to no man. (Even though at this time the Romans were in control of Jerusalem and Herod the Idumeaen was the ruler). How say to us that we shall be made free?

Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you; whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. And the servant abideth not in the house forever: but the Son abideth ever. If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, "We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God." Jesus said unto them, “If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? Even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” (St. John 8:31-32, 34-44)

Before Satan became known as the Devil, his name was Lucifer, which means light bearer. He was the Angel in charge of bringing God's truth. The prophet Isaiah asked this question of Lucifer, "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations?" (Isaiah 14:12)

Lets take a look and see how bold the Devil is and what he controls , since the days of Jesus. Lets go into Luke 4: 3 And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread. 4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God. 5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. 7 If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine. 8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

So we see that satan uses his power with the kingdom of the earth. Now think about what we just read, the Devil says, "all the Kingdom are his", and that he is worshiped by those to whom he gives power to. Now, if he asked the Lord to worship him, while he was in the flesh; what about the rest of us? Let's go into Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Think about it, how does he deceive the whole world? Which means me, you and everyone else has been deceive at some point for the scriptures did not say he deceive some of the world, or part of the world, but the whole world. Let's take a look and see how Satan used his power with these kingdoms. Let's go into Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. This places are the church, brothers and sisters. Let's go into Luke 22:52 Then Jesus said unto the chief priests, and captains of the temple, and the elders, which were come to him, Be ye come out, as against a thief, with swords and staves? 53 When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.

Did you notice it was the church people who came to arrest Jesus? They did the bidding for there "father" the Devil.

FireDragon76 · 2025-11-16T19:02:59-0600

Hank77 said:
I think you'll find that there are 9 more ounces of meat in the nuggets than in the fresh chicken. That will feed at least one more child, if not two, depending on their age.

Doing the math, I found that the package of nuggets was $3.48 less than the same 29 ozs of fresh chicken. That's a huge difference in most families, and for a single parent, it's the difference between a gallon of milk or a loaf of bread.

Maybe my math is wrong....

I'm a vegan now, but that's pretty much how I remember it working out.

I try to eat healthier but I'm under no illusions how hard that is for most people who aren't born with a silver spoon in their mouth, or how much food gets class coded.

Fervent · 2025-11-16T18:57:32-0600

Yarddog said:
America has had socialism, in some concept, since our foundation. The preamble's text fits comfortably in with Social Democracy.

What it boils down to is what industries are fit for socialization, with socialism serving as a boogeyman for totalitarian governance that restricts property rights. It's easy to criticize capitalism, but we really don't live in a strongly capitalistic economy. Our economy is run by megalithic corporations, which may as well be monopolies. The concern over socialism is that it's ripe for corruption, particularly in an already unwieldy governmental structure like we have in government on the scale of the US. So the concerns are legitimate, but there have to be more productive ways of talking about these things.

Fisherking · 2025-11-16T18:55:40-0600

Clare73 said:
Which does not alter the fact that God has no people who are not in Christ and, therefore, are not the seed of Abraham (Gal 3:29).

Yes it does, because Israel is still God's Bride, we are Christ Jesus' bride. Even though Jesus the Messiah is all of our sacrifice, and the only way to heaven, Jesus is Jewish and thus a blood brother. The promises to Israel ARE NOT promises the Church will fulfill, we will be in heaven at that time. So, God can have a holy people who are still in darkness now, whom He CHOOSES not to call to repentance as a nation until a much later date in time. But Israel is still His Bride, thus in Rev. 14 they have the Fathers name on their forehead.

Abraham was under the blood BY FAITH long ago. The PROMISE was Jesus, the word in Hebrew (Yeshua) means Salvation. That name spoken of in the Old Testament, many times was talking about Jesus. LIKE THIS: My Yeshua (Salvation) will carry me across the waters (at the patriarchs death). That is Jesus. So, yes we are all saved by Jesus' blood, but Israel are still hos people that God will not call unto repentance unto after he Church has been raptured, you know why? Because every Jews who gets saved during the Church Age is a part of the Bride of Christ. So, God waits so he can have a Nation for Jesus to rule from, amongst his brothers. Rev. 20:4 IF ONE READS CARFULLY, shows the Church is not on earth during the 1000 year reign, ONLY those who were Martyrs of the Beast rule on earth with Glorious Bodies for 1000 years.

Jacob had TWO BRIDES, the preferred bride in Rachel and the forced bride in Leah.

Yarddog · 2025-11-16T18:51:07-0600

Postvieww said:
Communist, socialist, democratic socialist, dictatorship, social democracy or what ever label one prefers, none of these are supported by our constitution.

That is incorrect. They are supported just as much as Capitalism.

Postvieww said:
We are a constitutional republic and all of these various alternatives have one goal and that is to destroy the fabric of our nation and mold it into something to control the masses with false promises.

That is also incorrect. There ate several Social Democracies which are quite successful. They people are really happy.

America has had socialism, in some concept, since our foundation. The preamble's text fits comfortably in with Social Democracy.

Anonymous9090 · 2025-11-16T18:50:57-0600

Pray Israelis find Spiritual,Mental,Emotional,& Physical healing in Jesus Christ's Gospel due to all the 7-Oct-2023 injuries & trauma:

https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2025/11/16/for-israel-a-psychological-reckoning-is-the-price-of-bloody-victory

Hentenza · 2025-11-16T18:47:32-0600

HIM said:
The only way one dies to the law is to die to sin and not live any longer therein. If we sin we have NOT died to the Law. This is the context of chapter 6 and 7 of Romans.

“Therefore there is now no condemnation at all for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭8‬:‭1‬-‭4‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Romans 8:1-4 Therefore there is now no condemnation at all for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law c | New American Standard Bible - NASB

Therefore there is now no condemnation at all for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law c

bible.com

What does these verses mean to you? Why does Paul say that there is no condemnation for those in Christ?

Sif · 2025-11-16T18:43:41-0600

Noryang: Deadly Sea. A 2023 Korean film about the December 16, 1598 Battle of Noryang. It was the last battle of the Imjin War (the Japanese invasion of Joseon (Korea) by Toyotomi Hideyoshi). The Joseon navy was led by Admiral Yi Sun Sin who was killed toward the end of the battle (similar to Horatio Nelson's death at Trafalgar). The Ming dynasty also sent naval forces to assist Joseon. With the defeat of their Navy and with the death of Yoyotomi Hideyoshi Tokugawa Ieyasu could take control of Japan and end the invasion of the Korean peninsula (Imjin War). It would also give Tokugawa Ieyasu the path to becoming Shogun after the Battle of Sekigahara on October 21, 1600.

Admiral Yi Sun Sin used a ship referred to as a "Turtle Ship" or geobukseon. The ship was heavily armored including an armored roof. the ship used spikes, arquebus shooters and cannons as its weapons. It was a strong ship used in the coastal waters of the Korean peninsula. Supporting ships with open decks often were armed with the hwacha, which was essentially a early and very crude version of a multiple-launch rocket system.

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