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timothyu · 2025-11-19T11:52:02-0600

Dan1988 said:
The only reason God gave the commandments was to show mankind how evil we are.

And to command us to put His will ahead of our own, thus loving all as self.

timothyu · 2025-11-19T11:50:15-0600

JimR-OCDS said:
Only disagrees with traditional thinking

And of course traditional thinking has no value other than as a controlled narrative.

Fervent · 2025-11-19T11:44:20-0600

HIM said:
It wasn't in respect to all the law and Prophets. He has not returned with His angels to gather the elect and sin, death and tears are still in this world. The earth and heaven were not destroyed and all that is in it. And the City of God that has been prepared for us is not here. Therefore all has not been fulfilled.

What do you suspect the law and the prophets were pointing towards, and what was explained to the disciples on the road to Emmaus? What was it that was finished?

eleos1954 · 2025-11-19T11:43:43-0600

Clare73 said:
Keeping in mind that prohecy is subject to more than one interpretation (Nu 12:6-8),
the only rule being that all interpretation must be in agreement with NT apostolic teaching (1 Th 4:16-17) of Christ (Lk 10:16),
for God does not contradict himself in his holy word, and
which dispensationalism is not,
starting with the fact that in all of Scripture there is not one verse that specifically locates the rapture before the tribulation.
A pretribulation rapture is a notion of man, based entirely in eisegesis, and never even heard of in the church until about 200 hears ago.

There isn't a pre-tribulation "rapture" ... nor did I claim there is one .... there is the 1st resurrection and that happens when Jesus returns

sovereigngrace · 2025-11-19T11:41:47-0600

eleos1954 said:
A sound interpretation will be consistent with the rest of the Bible's teaching and will not contradict other Scripture.

Revelation contains more than 500 allusions and references to the Old Testament. The most helpful tool for understanding its symbols is often in other parts of the Bible, especially the books of Daniel, Ezekiel, and Isaiah.

Revelation 20 - Satan Bound

According to Revelation 20 ... There is indeed a 1,000 year period in which is referred to as the "millennium " (another word for 1,000 years) in the book of Revelation ... one of the main differences in interpretations is a matter of where the 1,000 years is spent. (in heaven or on earth)

Spent in heaven ...

Revelation 20:4: This passage states that saints reigned with Christ for a thousand years and refers to the righteous who were resurrected.

1 Thessalonians 4:17: This verse describes the righteous being "caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air".

1 Corinthians 6:2-3: This passage suggests that the saints will judge the world and even angels.

John 14:2-3: Jesus promised His followers, "I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also". (Jesus is in heaven)

John 13:33: Jesus tells His disciples, "Little children, yet a little while I am with you... as I said to the Jews, so now I say to you, ‘Where I am going you cannot come.’" This refers to His departure to the Father, which is consistent with believers eventually joining Him in heaven.

But, where is Rev 20 located? When was or is the first resurrection?

eleos1954 · 2025-11-19T11:40:27-0600

ChubbyCherub said:
Hello all,

Can I ask that you please direct me to some scripture or lead me in prayer re: a debilitating fear I have had my whole life - carcinophobia.

It is a distracting phobia that robs me of my joy in life and distracts me from Christ due to anxiety, worry, fear, rumination etc.

Thank you all for your help, as always, God bless.

10 Powerful Bible Verses to Overcome Fear

“Fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.” (Isaiah 41:10)
This verse contains four powerful promises from God: His presence (“I am with you”), His relationship (“I am your God”), His strength (“I will strengthen you”), and His support (“I will uphold you”). When fear tells you you’re alone, God’s Word reminds you that He is right beside you with everything you need.
“…For he has said, ‘I will never leave you nor forsake you.’ So we can confidently say, ‘The Lord is my helper; I will not fear; what can man do to me?'” (Hebrews 13:5b-6)
God’s constant presence gives us unshakable confidence. Notice the progression: God’s promise leads to our confidence, which overcomes our fear. When human opposition or disappointment feels overwhelming, remember that the Creator of the universe is your helper.
“For God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control.” (2 Timothy 1:7)
This verse clearly identifies that debilitating fear is not from God. Instead, He equips us with three powerful alternatives: strength for challenges, love for others, and a sound, disciplined mind for wise decisions. When fear creeps in, recognize it as foreign to your true identity in Christ.
“Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.” (Psalm 23:4)
David, who faced giants, armies, and betrayal, found comfort not in the absence of danger but in the presence of his Shepherd. Note that this verse doesn’t promise we’ll avoid valleys altogether—it promises divine companionship through them. God’s guidance (“rod”) and protection (“staff”) bring comfort in our darkest moments.
“Be strong and courageous. Do not fear or be in dread of them, for it is the LORD your God who goes with you. He will not leave you or forsake you.” (Deuteronomy 31:6)
Moses spoke these words to Joshua as he prepared to lead Israel into unknown territory. Similarly, God goes before us into our uncertain futures. Courage isn’t the absence of fear but moving forward with God despite it. Whatever transition or challenge you’re facing, you’re not facing it alone.
“Peace I leave with you; my peace I give to you. Not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your hearts be troubled, neither let them be afraid.” (John 14:27)
Jesus spoke these words to His disciples just before His crucifixion—arguably their greatest moment of fear and uncertainty. He offers a peace that transcends circumstances, a supernatural calm that can exist even in life’s storms. This divine peace is distinctly different from temporary worldly relief.
“The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? The LORD is the stronghold of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?” (Psalm 27:1)
This verse begins with two powerful metaphors: God as light (dispelling darkness and confusion) and salvation (bringing rescue and hope). With God as our ultimate security, human threats and intimidation lose their power over our emotions and decisions.
“God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble. Therefore we will not fear though the earth gives way, though the mountains be moved into the heart of the sea, though its waters roar and foam, though the mountains tremble at its swelling.” (Psalm 46:1-3)
This psalm describes catastrophic scenarios—earthquakes, landslides, and raging floods—yet declares confidence in God’s protection. No matter how chaotic your circumstances, God remains an accessible refuge and source of strength. The phrase “very present” emphasizes His immediate availability in crisis moments.
“Cast your burden upon the LORD and He will sustain you; He will never allow the righteous to be shaken.” (Psalm 55:22)
The word “cast” suggests a deliberate transfer of weight. Our anxieties and fears don’t have to remain on our shoulders. God not only invites us to give our burdens to Him but promises to sustain us through whatever circumstances we face.
“He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will abide in the shadow of the Almighty. I will say to the LORD, ‘My refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust.'” (Psalm 91:1-2)
This psalm begins with a powerful image of God as our protective shelter. The word “dwells” suggests continuous residence, not occasional visits. As we consistently live in close relationship with God, we experience His protective presence. This isn’t just theological theory—it’s a promise we can personally claim.

Full article here ...

Standing Firm: Bible Verses to Conquer Fear and Anxiety | Foothills Bible Church

Palmfever · 2025-11-19T11:40:05-0600

Brightfame52 said:
Jn 6:44

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

No man can come here means no man has the ability to come to Christ. That cancels out the myth that man has a freewill

It cancels nothing.

And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

He has done it.

Called and drawn 'All Men.'
Now the choice is ours.

For many are called, but few are chosen.

Again the calling, the drawing is and was to/for all men.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

The choice is ours.

Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

Open the door.

'The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead, he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.”

And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.

We choose to reject or accept.
Cslvinism is a lie.

HIM · 2025-11-19T11:39:40-0600

Fervent said:
Then why did Jesus declare "it is finished"?

It wasn't in respect to all the law and Prophets. He has not returned with His angels to gather the elect and sin, death and tears are still in this world. The earth and heaven were not destroyed and all that is in it. And the City of God that has been prepared for us is not here. Therefore all has not been fulfilled.

Say it aint so · 2025-11-19T11:38:17-0600

rjs330 said:
No he didn't. That was not part of his platform. We had a reporter who asked him if he would release the files. He said he would have no problem with it. The truth is he also had concerns about it and expressed those concerns as well

Trump, Vance, then and now VP, Kash Patel, Dan Bongino, Musk, all advocated releasing any files post presidency. All maintained they would be released once in office. Then they changed their minds after Bondi realized how prevalent Trump's name was mentioned.

Because other people were involved beside Epstein? Are you telling me they had no interest in pursuing pedophiles? They went after Trump for everything else, why not the one thing that most likely would have prevented him from being reelected? It makes no sense and you know it.

The case was closed. One more time. You have to have good reason as why to reopen and closed investigation. What other pedophiles are there evidenced enough to warrant a reopen? Epstein is dead and Ghisaline Maxwell is now receiving favorable treatment by the Trump admin. A Trump pardon is next. I'm sure you will be asking this question here when that happens "Are you telling me they had no interest in pursuing pedophiles?"

Lol! So Biden wasn't interested in going after pedophiles they had information on in rhe Epstien files? Are you know admitting they are totally incompetent? Give me a food reason if Trump was involved in pedophilia why Biden wouldn't go after him for it? Not a big enough deal?

What other pedophiles? Victims were interviewed and testified in NY. You need to understand how justice works. If you're concern is those who were or weren't interested in putting pedophiles in jail, your angst should be leveled at current AG Pam Bondi. Because after Epstein got his sweetheart deal by future Trump admin Alex Acosta, then current Florida State AG Pam Bondi who could have gone after Epstein being so concerned about pedophilia in her state, chose to do nothing. It was New York who took that up and jailed Epstein. That guy got fired by Trump.

fhansen · 2025-11-19T11:37:13-0600

Dikaioumenoi said:
I don't know how to be any clearer with you. You still continue to conflate a very clear distinction I have repeatedly been making since the very start of our conversation: ἑλκύω does not concern the question of irresistible grace. The semantics of that term is NOT what the Calvinist argument is based on.

What do you not understand about this?

The point is that if you define ἑλκύω in a way the implicitly includes the idea of fallibility, then the Father's act of enabling a person to come to Christ can fail, because ἑλκύω IS that act of enablement.

Ok, so bear with me on this if you will. We agree that ἑλκύω, itself, allows for resistance: a person can resist and thwart the enablement, can refuse to act on it themselves. The word does not imply an act that cannot be resisited, an act that must be completed. That implication comes from the fact that God raises those who've come. Is that correct?

essentialsaltes · 2025-11-19T11:27:56-0600

Judge grills government over apparent lapses in Comey indictment

The case's prosecutor said the full grand jury didn't see the final indictment.

Halligan said the full grand jury saw the original indictment that was presented, but that the charges against Comey that are currently on the court docket were not reviewed by the full grand jury.

A Justice Department attorney also refused to answer whether a memo prepared by career prosecutors in the U.S. attorney's office prior to Halligan's appointment recommended against bringing charges against Comey.

Lemons finally told the court that he did seek to find out if a declination memo existed, but said he was under instruction from Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche's office not to disclose the answer.

rambot · 2025-11-19T11:27:51-0600

Valletta said:
Cheryl Mueller. They need to stop calling people fascists and racists, to stop the persecution of those who don't have socialist ideologies.

So no free speech.

narnia59 · 2025-11-19T11:26:30-0600

Always in His Presence said:
Because we have the canon - there is nothing missing. Remember we are discussing is the teaching biblical (found in the Bible) As demonstrated numerous times - it is not there

Not at all the Tri union of the Godhead is found numerous places in both the Old and New Testaments.

Purgatory is not,

I've already answered - even asked a question from Scripture as part of my response -

So would I - you have not answered the question I posed when I responded to you as referenced above.

Your last post does not contain a question to me and to my knowledge I have answered every question you have posed. So direct me to a question that I have no answered.

You need to point out to me exactly where you answered my question -- What does being saved only as through fire mean to you? You said it means they are "saved". You have never addressed the bolded -- what does it mean when it says we will be saved only as through fire. What does the reference to "fire" mean? And why is it written in a future tense at the time of our judgment?

Also you haven't answered this one -- at the moment of every believer’s death do you believe they are perfect, completely sanctified with no attachment to sin?

The Trinity can most certainly be found conceptually in Scripture. But there is no direct and specific statement that there are 3 distinct persons in one God. That is why you have non-Trinitarian Christians who express their belief to be the Biblical one.

And Purgatory can most certainly be conceptually found in Scripture. Let me recap for you:

1) Just become someone becomes saved, it does not mean they are immediately sanctified. Scripture is quite clear that God will discipline us as sons in order to bring us to holiness (Hebrews 12:4-14)
2) We will not see God until we have reached that level of perfected holiness (Hebrews 12:4, 23)
3) There is nothing in Scripture that indicates that all believers will have reached that state of perfection by the time they die.
4) There is nothing in Scripture that says that once we’re judged our entry into heaven will immediately follow that judgement regardless of the state Christ finds our soul. In fact, it says quite the opposite. Anything he finds that needs to be burned off before we enter heaven, he will. That is why even when referring to our judgment Paul writes that if any of our work is burned up, we “will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire” (1 Corinthians 3:15). “Will be saved.” In the future. When Christ is finished removing all that does not belong in heaven.

rambot · 2025-11-19T11:25:18-0600

Servus said:
Another strawman.

It's the logic of your argument. Not a strawman.

Fervent · 2025-11-19T11:24:06-0600

HIM said:
All has not been fulfilled friend.

Then why did Jesus declare "it is finished"?

DaisyDay · 2025-11-19T11:21:44-0600

Valletta said:
Purdue has not yet released her name. Today it appears to me that most of the people calling others fascists and racists are themselves the true fascists and racists. A lot of them don't know what fascism is. Too many are bullies who think they know what's best for everyone else.

Then why did you name Cheryl Mueller?

BNR32FAN · 2025-11-19T11:20:14-0600

Apple Sky said:
The litte girl asks Buzz 'why haven't we been back to the moon' & Buzz answers 'Because we did't go there.'

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Yeah why didn’t you look for the full video? Here’s the full 17 minute video if you have enough time or interest to actually watch it.

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Now that you’ve seen this I trust that you won’t be claiming that Buzz Aldrin said that he never went to the moon anymore?

HIM · 2025-11-19T11:17:12-0600

JohnB445 said:
this has worried me, do I need to be a Catholic to be saved, or a Protestant? Or does the denomination have nothing to do with it?

Yes what you believe and therefore do can keep you from heaven.

timothyu · 2025-11-19T11:16:36-0600

ChubbyCherub said:
Seeking Jesus instead of self.

As Jesus' two commandments says, follow the will of the Father and serve others as you would be served. Be selfish for all including enemies, rather than for self at their expense

eleos1954 · 2025-11-19T11:15:35-0600

JohnB445 said:
this has worried me, do I need to be a Catholic to be saved, or a Protestant? Or does the denomination have nothing to do with it?

Jesus Christ is "the way, the truth, and the life," and the only name by which people can be saved (Acts 4:12, John 14:6). No denomination has the power to save on its own.

Individual Relationship: Salvation is a personal experience based on an individual's faith and relationship with Jesus, not on a group identity.

The Catechism notes that those who knowingly and willingly reject the Catholic faith and its truths would not be saved ... so in essence is a "group identity"

Center your relationship on Jesus and walk in his steps ... it's all about Jesus.

DaisyDay · 2025-11-19T11:14:55-0600

RestoreTheJoy said:
One guy. Watch the video. ONE guy shouted that. No one was ever going to get to Pence to murder him.

Watch other videos. Scores were chanting and ONE guy famously tweeted out his support:

“Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution,” he said, igniting a fresh wave of anger among the crowd that had breached the Capitol.

Trump’s tweet arrived 10 minutes after rioters had first broken into the Capitol through a Senate-wing window, and it was posted four minutes before Pence arrived at the secure Capitol location where he holed up with his security team for hours.

Clare73 · 2025-11-19T11:13:26-0600

eleos1954 said:
The riddles invites the listener to engage with the message more deeply. For those open to his words, the parables encourages to seek the hidden meaning, ask questions, and come to a personal understanding that are found scattered about in scripture.

Keeping in mind that prohecy is subject to more than one interpretation (Nu 12:6-8),
the only rule being that all interpretation must be in agreement with NT apostolic teaching (1 Th 4:16-17) of Christ (Lk 10:16),
for God does not contradict himself in his holy word, and
which dispensationalism is not,
starting with the fact that in all of Scripture there is not one verse that specifically locates the rapture before the tribulation.
A pretribulation rapture is a notion of man, based entirely in eisegesis, and never even heard of in the church until about 200 years ago.

NewLifeInChristJesus · 2025-11-19T11:10:11-0600

chevyontheriver said:
First, God does not have to save anybody. You cannot compel God. Everything is only by the benevolent grace of God. Unearned. God shouldn't necessarily save you but God graciously does, not by you compelling Him. We can claim God should save us, as I alluded to in my earlier post, but it's a claim that has zero substance.

Second, acting in bad conscience, knowing something to be true but not following it out of convenience, is damnable. Follow an informed conscience. Follow it even if it is not perfectly formed.

Truth matters. People who err might be saved, at God's pleasure. People who act in bad conscience I think would be far worse off. Being convinced you are in the wrong church but staying there for the sake of the opinion of your parents or your job would be damnable. You know the truth but you just don't have the courage to follow it. That's convenience over truth. That's a Protestant minister who won't become Catholic because she's got a nice pastoral position and she has no path to becoming a Catholic priest. She should do it anyway. That's a Catholic priest who no longer believes what the Church teaches on faith and morals. Staying and pretending is reprehensible. Truth matters but following one's conscience matters more. Inform your conscience, trust God, and follow your conscience. Don't stay out of convenience.

Informing your conscience is key here. That differs from just conveniently accepting something you read once on the internet. Most of us are happy with our status quo and studiously avoid anything that might rock the boat. We should be able to figure out where we are in error but we just don't want to get all unsettled. Informing one's conscience is to take risks and learn things. Sometimes they are true and compelling things. Follow them. THAT is how following truth and following what we believe to be true actually converge.

So I guess this is spelled out in official Catholic doctrine? I'm surprised I havn't heard this before.

HIM · 2025-11-19T11:08:08-0600

HIM said:
Condemn and convict are two different topics. We are not speaking of conviction in Romans 8 but condemnation. It says, there is now therefore no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. Death being the condemnation. Because if we mortify the deeds of the body through the Spirit of the life in Christ Jesus, we shall live if not we die says Romans 8. For the Spirit of the Life Christ Jesus has set us free from the law of sin and the wages of it, death that the righteousness of the Law of God that Paul delights in be fulfilled.

Hentenza said:
Ok I can agree with that.

Praise God! Glad to hear it!

HIM said:
By the Law is the knowledge of sin Romans 3. But the Spirit working on the heart convicts, Because the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance as Romans 2 states.

Hentenza said:
But since the law has been fulfilled (completed righteously) then so has its imparting the knowledge of sin externally. The law in essence declares that there is a difference between right and wrong. The law defines the nature of “out-law” conduct (1 John 3:4). The law points to a need for some method of justification since no one can keep the law perfectly (Galatians 3:10), and the law itself provides no ultimate remedy for violations or a way to repentance. Even in a perfect legal system, a broken law cannot be un-broken.

Through Christ redemptive sacrifice on the cross believers that were under the law have been released from the law. The gentiles were never under the Mosaic law but under the law of providence because God’s will governs and directs all actions in the universe.

So now the Holy Spirit gives us the knowledge of sin and the way to repentance. The result of Christ redemptive sacrifice is justification by the grace of God through faith not by works of the law and the second gift to the believer is the Holy Spirit.

Hey there, What you might be forgetting here is in Paul's explanation of the Gospel to all who be in Rome that he says, that by the Law is the knowledge of sin in 3:23 and that he would not have known sin but by the Law 7:7. These are spoken of in the present and historic present tense respectively. He also says in Romans 7 that he delights in the Law of God in his explanation of the law, the one that is the power sin has over him working all manner of concupiscence incapacitating from doing the good that he would in his members. As Jesus said he that commits sin as a slave to it. John 8

And in His speaking of this law of sin and the consequences of it, death he shares that we been set free from it through the Spirit of the Life in Christ Jesus that the righteousness of the Law, the law of God in which he delights to be fulfilled in us who walk after the Spirit of the Life in Christ Jesus.

Mat 5:17? Is that what you are referring to when you say, "But since the law has been fulfilled"?

If so then we have the rest of the sermon to deal with. As a matter of fact Jesus continues and says immediately that are righteousness must exceed the righteousness of the pharisees. And that anyone who teaches or breaks one of the least of these commandments they shalll be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven All this said right after He states that not one jot or tittle pass from the Law until all has been fulfilled.

All has not been fulfilled friend.

How do we know? Because He has not returned to establish the New Heaven and New earth. Couple that with what is here in regard to Romans. And 1 Tim 1:8-10 where Paul also says the Law is for the sinner and one must come up with a different conclusion that you are putting forward here.

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