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Why we are not supposed to keep the Sabbath

You are correct. T
the distinction between the Old and New Covenants is primarily about the basis of the covenant and the location of the law. The Old Covenant was conditional on human effort and was based on external laws written on stone tablets, while the New Covenant is based on God's grace and promises, with His law written internally on the heart through the Holy Spirit

Old Covenant

  • Basis: Attempted to achieve righteousness through human effort and obedience.
  • Law: The law was external, written on stone tablets (Exodus 20).
  • Outcome: Described as leading to a faulty relationship due to human faithlessness and disobedience.
  • Role: Seen as necessary to demonstrate humanity's inability to be righteous on its own and to point to the need for a savior.
New Covenant

  • Basis: God's grace and promise, accepted by faith.
  • Law: God's law is written on the heart through the Holy Spirit, enabling believers to live in accordance with it.
  • Outcome: Spiritual regeneration and a new heart, with Christ entering the life of the believer.
  • Role: Provides a relationship with God based on His power to transform the believer, not their own power.
The spirit of GOD in true Christians enables in us a change of nature, we partake of the divine nature that doesn’t need to be commanded but is motivated by GODS love in us. Love fulfills law. The Ten Commandments will pass away when heaven and Earth pass away, Revelation 21:1 the Ten Commandments are not for a converted righteous man but for carnal unconverted sinners . Jesus paid the penalty for our breaking the Ten Commandments, once , he will not die for you again if you go back to them again.
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Two National Guard soldiers shot in Washington DC

How do you know he wasn't secretly passing information to the enemy?
I would presume that part of his admittance to the country involved some sort of vetting. Given that he ran a specops group working with a variety of western forces against the Taliban, feeding info to the enemy strikes me as unlikely, unless, I suppose, the Taliban started paying better than the Americans.

Either way, I don’t know anything about the guy other than what’s been reported in the press - just like you don’t either. Everything about his “Islamic lies” and his status as a double agent is 100% conjecture on your part.
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Creation of Man patterned after God - the GodHead

You've explained it well here but still..................I have to pray about it. It's a hard thing to understand :praying:
Jesus said , “there is one who condemns you even Moses in who you trust” Moses brought the Ten Commandments to give to Israel. These Ten Commandments were written and engraved on stone and are the ministry of death. They kill everyone under them, there is no life in the Ten Commandments. These law keepers here are dead, the law Moses brought down from the mountain has condemned them to death. Jesus said, “search the scriptures for in them you think you have everlasting life but these are those which testify of me.” The Ten Commandments do not offer everlasting life but rather everlasting death. There is a new and living way through Jesus Christ that law keepers don’t know. Ten Commandment keepers are yet in the old covenant, deny the work of Christ, are condemned by Moses and have no life in them. Do a Bible study with key words like, mercy, righteousness, faith, justification and life with respect to the Ten Commandments and see that the Ten Commandments did not offer any of these things. Since the Ten Commandments cannot be altered in any way you cannot add these things to them. Sin is conquered by GODS love in us by HIS spirit. If we are empowered with this love then we can overcome sin. No one has ever overcome sin by keeping the Ten Commandments. John 1:17 grace and truth did not come by the Ten Commandments but through Jesus Christ.
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Is the Bible inerrant?

Thank you, this makes sense.

My dad has never read the bible and goes off his understanding of what he's been told and his relationship with Jesus, as he puts it.

I guess I always thought there was a danger in relying on others to read the bible to you, interpret it for you etc but he doesn't read above a third grade level (if that) so he tries his best.

People seem to read the same passages and still come to different conclusions. It's a minefield, really!

I'm prone to research, overthinking, examination, analysis, questions, thinking, shifting in thinking, reassessing, reconfirming etc. So, I see both views. I appreciate your help here!
Many, many believers, perhaps the majority of them, down through the centuries were illiterate, simple folk, let alone not bible scholars or theologians. And many, many took the ball they were handed via catechesis and ran with it, producing the good fruit God desires of us, whatever that may be. Others produced bad fruit despite the good teachings they'd received. And sacraments, as well, incidentally, embody and pass on theology, providing a simple means to understand and live out the basics of the gospel. My semi-literate grandmother arriving in America over a century ago now from the foothills of the Italian Alps was one such person, having a simple and beautiful faith that I'd be willing to compare to anyone's. Just some more thoughts related to this matter, FWIW.
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Two National Guard soldiers shot in Washington DC

Then what is your post? Another example of Christian lies in order to paint a different religious/ethnic group as being evil and unworthy of living here?

The guy worked for the CIA. I’d think that would justify fears of retaliation by the Taliban. But please keep on jumping to conclusions.

How do you know he wasn't secretly passing information to the enemy? This kind of behavior is rampant in the Islamic community. They are the most dangerous group in the world today. They consistently use whatever grievance they have as an excuse for violent actions. Islamists are very dangerous and violent.
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Pentagon investigating Sen. Mark Kelly over 'refuse illegal orders' video

Yes. Next he is going to relocate these "enemies" to designated areas and force them to wear a symbol that easily identifies them. Then they will all be loaded up onto train cars, never to be seen again.
Obviously Trump isnt genocidal.

But he certainly lacks respect for the legal and constitutional restraints that are supposed to apply to his office.
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The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

No its not. Gender is sex. You can substitute sex for ANYTHING gender related and it would mean the same thing.

Even in your examples.
Emotional state of what?
Cognitive state of what?
Societal expectations of what?
Sex and gender are interchangeable. Even in some surveys it says gender: male or female.
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The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

gender is more complex, a combination of biological sex, emotional and congnitive states and societal expectations.
No its not. Gender is sex. You can substitute sex for ANYTHING gender related and it would mean the same thing.

Even in your examples.
Emotional state of what?
Cognitive state of what?
Societal expectations of what?
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The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

Neither are trans people. They know what they are and what their biology is and are not trying to deceive anybody about it. They also know how they want to be treated and their dress and overt behavior in a fairly strictly gendered society is the signal they send,

It's tough. Biological sex is fairly straightforward but gender is more complex, a combination of biological sex, emotional and congnitive states and societal expectations. Writing off a failure to meet those societal expectations as "mental illness" is not a solution.
So called gender affirming care hasn’t been a solution either. Saying someone has a mental illness and should seek treatment for it is compassionate route.

And yes, many of them have purposefully deceived people and simply don’t care.
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Two National Guard soldiers shot in Washington DC

Pope Leo wants us to pray for people suffering under the heavy burden of despair.

Not all suicides are obvious ones.....

I am going to guess that this Afgan citizen lost all hope, because he was going to be greatly outnumbered and most likely killed
So he decided he'd just murder a couple people. And we're supposed to feel sorry for him?
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The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

My point is no one actually uses sex to determine what pronouns to use, we go by social and visual clues. I've gotten missexed enough, that I know people can't reliably guess sex if ones features are androgynous. And no one ever asked for a blood sample to check my sex chromosomes either. So I think it isn't true that pronouns somehow are linked to sex
They are. The fact that you've been missexed is irrelevant. It was a mistake. Just like someone can think one is white when in fact you might be native American. You are what you were born as and pronouns are tied to sex. "He" is tied to the male sex. She is tied to the female sex. If it wasn't then it wouldn't be such a big deal to those who want to be called the opposite sex pronouns. If tgey were truly neutral you could call anyone whatever you wanted.
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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

"16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
This fellow clearly explains what is required in this short, Jesus' Gospel of the Kingdom

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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

But if you're wanting it in my words... I guess it seems to me that there are two main changes:
1) A heart change - You grow in your love for God and others.
2) A life change - You turn from living for self to living for God.
Agreed
Scripture says no more selfishness, loving all as self and forgiving those who wrong you. Not really a stretch, unless self-interest is your god.
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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

I believe it is a spritual state of separation from God, the people who are in it do not want to be anywhere near Him. He will not drag people to Him if they do not want to be there, that would be rude, and God is not rude.
As it already is in earth
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