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Transcript of Kirk's killer's messages has been revealed

If he thinks men can become women, he's denying the science of genetics and DNA.
This is probably outside of the scope of this forum but so is your post in that case, so I can at least ask. What does genetics and DNA have to do with gender? Are you thinking about sex chromosomes? If so, was everybody genderless until sex chromosomes were discovered by Edmund Beecher Wilson and Nettie Stevens separately in 1905?
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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

Steve, this is all just numerology.
Thats like say the theory of gravitry is just numbers, any numbers. Or the constants are just any numbers. They are particular numbers that could have been any set of millions of combinations. Thats the point. Like I said to sjastro finding one representation of Pi and Phi may happen but all over the vase no not really.

The vase base lip to diameter Pi, the top lip to the inside opening of vase Pi, the opening to the outside rim of vase Pi, ect ect. There are 1,000 or more numbers it could have been that did not make it Pi or Phi. That it falls into this ratio over and over to less than a human hair is quite impressive.

But thats just one relation. You make numbers nothing when it suits.
They picked a family of numbers that provide a lot of ratio values within the scale of the ratio of the largest to smallest "circle" on the object.
Do you know what your talking about. Study the article.
Therefore *many* circles can be fit that match one of those ratios.
Theres only one ratio that the circles and curves seem to conform to.
(And that wasn't even the only set of numbers being "found".) Unlike the alleged finding of powers of phi or pi in the shape, (numbers that emerge from some mathematics) what is special about the sqrt(1.5) [sqrt(3/2)], why not sqrt(5/4) or sqrt(7/3)? (I'll tell you why -- the numbers matched. They don't tell you how many "formulae" they tried before "finding" the one that "worked".)
Because like other number sets such as the Madelbrot set not any numbers can be used. Its like finding a Cardioid shape in a Madelbrot set and saying its just numbers. Not any number but only certain numbers sets. If all the numbers in the vase fall within that set or in this case the Flower of Life then it suggests those specific relations were preset.

Whats more these numbers relate to other sets. Theres a double equivelance of Phi and Pi in some ratios. But they all generally fall into the Flower of Life and other natural numbers. For example the vase has been reduced to one unit which is the inside opening of the vase and all other radii are a precise part of that base unit either part of (arcs) or to the largest full circles.

Just one relation off by a small degree and the whole vase is affected. All other ratios then fall outside this basic unit.

Not just that the base unit equals exactly 18.739mm. That just happens to match the wave lengths of a 16 Ghz electromagnetic wave traveling in a vacumn. This is exactly 16 Ghz. This is very interesting as it seems the base unit of the vase is a whole subdivision of the speed of light in a vacumn. Maybe its a coincidence.
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Eric Trump on Charlie Kirk’s Legacy and the Radical Left – “This Could Have Been the Greatest Mistake These People Have Ever Made” (VIDEO)

And people who are LGBT say they were born that way.

So, who should we believe, you or them?

-- A2SG, such a conundrum....
If I said I was born as a seagul, would you believe me? I sure they truly believe what they believe, because too many people tell them it is true.
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Eric Trump on Charlie Kirk’s Legacy and the Radical Left – “This Could Have Been the Greatest Mistake These People Have Ever Made” (VIDEO)

As I have said, people are not born LGBT, they are groomed and recruited. This is how they reproduce the next generation.
And people who are LGBT say they were born that way.

So, who should we believe, you or them?

-- A2SG, such a conundrum....
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Transcript of Kirk's killer's messages has been revealed

I dont think they got the memo that whataboutism isn't going to work anymore. Charlie Kirk was killed, and in a floating moment of excitement, many on the left took of their mask and showed the world who they really were, and the world was disgusted. There is truly nothing even close in comparison to warrant a what about.

The left has created an environment of permission structures for political violence. And now people, even many on their side are seeing it.
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Take a stand on political violence

Timeline of America's political violence dating back to 2011​


From here: MSN

If you think that ALL political violence is wrong, whichever side of the political fence you are, then just say so. Don't pick and choose. Don't comment on individual examples. Don't rate them or excuse them. Don't blame any one person or group. Just say that it's wrong. Please let's all get on the same page.

Jan. 8, 2011-- 6 killed, 13 others including then-Rep. Gabrielle Giffords wounded in Tucson shooting​

Six people were killed and 13 others wounded, including then-Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, during a constituent meeting outside a grocery store in Tucson, Arizona. Giffords, a Democrat, was shot in the head at point-blank range, critically injuring her, before the shooter unleashed a spray of bullets. Giffords survived the shooting.

June 14, 2017 -- Rep. Steve Scalise shot during congressional baseball game practice​

Four people were shot -- including then-House majority whip and Louisiana Republican Rep. Steve Scalise -- when a gunman opened fire on Republicans practicing for a congressional baseball game at Eugene Simpson Stadium Park in Alexandria, Virginia.

Oct. 8, 2020 -- 13 men arrested for plotting to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer​

Thirteen members of a militia group were arrested and charged for planning to storm the Michigan statehouse, kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer and start a civil war.

Jan. 6, 2021 -- January 6 attack on the US Capitol, pipe bombs at RNC and DNC​

A mob of pro-Trump protestors stormed the U.S. Capitol as lawmakers met to ratify the results of the 2020 election on Jan. 6, 2021.

Feb. 14, 2022 -- Kentucky mayoral candidate targeted in attempted shooting​

While running for office, Louisville Mayor Craig Greenberg was the target of an attempted shooting at his campaign headquarters. No one was injured in the incident.

Oct. 28, 2022 -- Paul Pelosi attacked with hammer in his home​

Former Democratic Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi's husband, Paul Pelosi, was attacked with a hammer in their San Francisco home. David DePape was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole in a state trial over the attack. He had broken into the Pelosi home seeking to hold the then-speaker hostage.

Dec. 4, 2023 to Jan. 3, 2024 -- New Mexico state legislature candidate orchestrates shootings, murder for hire​

A New Mexico man who ran for the state legislature as a Republican and lost his bid is serving an 80 year prison sentence for allegedly orchestrating attacks at the homes of four Democratic lawmakers. No one was injured in his attempts.

June 13, 2024 -- 1st attempted assassination of Donald Trump​

Then-Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump was shot in the ear during a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, after a gunman opened fire from the roof of a nearby building.


Sept. 15, 2024 -- 2nd attempted assassination of Donald Trump​

Trump faced a second assassination attempt at the Trump International Gold Club in West Palm Beach, Florida. Prosecutors said suspect Ryan Wesley Routh allegedly put together a plan, including purchasing a military-grade weapon, researching Trump's movements and using a dozen burner phones in an alleged attempt to kill Trump based on political grievances.

Oct. 6, 2024 -- Kamala Harris campaign office in Arizona shot at 3 times in a month​

An office shared by then-Vice President Kamala Harris' presidential campaign and the Democratic Party in Tempe, Arizona, was damaged by gunfire three times in less than a month, according to police.

Dec. 4, 2024 -- Murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson​

UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson died after being shot multiple times at point-blank range by a gunman outside a Manhattan hotel, according to police. The shooter appeared to have been lying in wait at the hotel where he shot Thompson, authorities said.

April 13, 2025 -- Arson at Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro's residence​

A mechanic who has expressed disdain for Democrats on social media was arrested for starting a fire at Democratic Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro's residence.

May 21, 2025 -- Killing of two Israeli embassy staffers in Washington, D.C.​

Two Israeli embassy staffers were shot and killed while exiting an event at the Capital Jewish Museum in Washington, D.C.

June 1, 2025 -- 13 people injured in Colorado firebombing attack, 1 later dies​

A man threw Molotov cocktails during a pro-Israel demonstration in Boulder, Colorado, injuring 13, authorities said. One person later died of their injuries.

June 14, 2025
-- Minnesota lawmaker shootings​

A masked gunman disguised as a police officer shot and killed Minnesota state Rep. Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark in their home, Gov. Tim Walz said.

Aug. 8, 2025 -- Shooting at CDC headquarters​

A police officer was killed when a gunman opened fire near the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) headquarters and the Emory University campus in Atlanta, authorities said. Suspect Patrick Joseph White had blamed the COVID-19 vaccine for making him sick and depressed, according to law enforcement. He had increasingly focused on the vaccine as a source of his grievances, they noted. He was found dead after the shooting, officials said.

Sept. 10, 2025 -- Shooting of Charlie Kirk​

Charlie Kirk, the founder of the conservative youth activist organization Turning Point USA, was fatally shot during an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday. President Donald Trump confirmed Kirk’s death on social media.
All of these were bad. That was easy.
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How is the Economy Doing Right Now?

It seems like there haven't been many pointed discussions about the economy down in the US right now.
Seems that the DOW continues to improve.
Unemployment is at BEST, underwhelming.
The inflation on foods is becoming quite untenable for many.
Farming, as an American industry is on the brink of complete disaster (if we are to believe American farmers)

But I don't live there.

What are you passionate about here? What are the really GREAT things you see happenning? What are the troubling things?

I'm curious.
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How is the Economy Doing Right Now?

Trump has changed our economy. Personally, I think that US is in excellent economic shape and is poised to be for decades. The political changes are much more troubling.
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SOME THOUGHTS
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Inflation was at 3% last year. It will probably be between 3 and 4 % in the future. Yes, Trump's national sales tax on most foreign goods will have a permanent negative effect. Certainly, prices will affect some items more and some less. Last year eggs. This year coffee and beef. The cost of vegetables will continue to rise because of tariffs and because cheap labor in the US will be harder to secure.

But there will be very low unemployment for those who are willing to work. And wages will continue to go up, especially for the very poor.

Interest rates will tumble, makes lots, lots more things more affordable, especially cars and rent.
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The economy will be in good shape compared to the any decade in the past. Finally, middle class wages will increase, even after being adjusted for inflation. That hasn't happened since the 70's.

And yes, our retirement savings will be in good shape for the majority. [yes, our tax rates need to be increased and our national debt reduced] The reason tax rates are so unpopular is because the federal government is so inefficient in so many areas 9
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Much is wrong. The overall economy is not one of these.

Will the youth be able to afford a house? Will the youth want to work and succeed or will many work as little as possible. Will our addiction to junk food and other drugs be lessened? Who will bear the costs of climate change? Will we continue to encourage folks to build on the coasts that are most vulnerable? How much will we devote to new technologies that will reduce our use of water? Will be encouraged to eat less meat? Will we realize just how much beef and lawns really cost us?

The people will need to depend much more on state governments than on the federal government. Is this a terrible thing. Personally, I think not. But let's be clear, the poor in Republican states will suffer greatly, certainly after Trump is gone.
What are the current indicators of a strong economy?

Most of this post is prognostication
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ABC pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live after comments on Charlie Kirk

So we're all okay with cancel culture now?

Yes, absolutely when it involves people being murdered and others celebrating it etc. I support Kilmead being canceled for calling for murdering homeless people.

This kind of garbage deserves to be canceled.

What doesn't deserve to be canceled is political opinions or moral stances that do not encourage or celebrate murder, terrorism or political violence. I've got no issues with businesses or platforms censoring that kind of garbage. If I eople want to that they can go to Blue Sky and hope their employer doesn't care.

I absolutely draw a line at fomenting violence and celebrating assissantions of people who are sharing opinions.
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How is everybody?

Forgot to mention my bil and aunt. Bil had a cancerous kidney removed and we are praying for no return of cancer. Also my aunt is scheduled for surgery in Nashville this upcoming week. She has an aneurysm in her aorta. Very dangerous so we’d all appreciate prayers if it crosses your mind. :praying: It’s been a year of a lot of health issues on both sides of the family.
I‘m so sorry for all your family’s health issues. I’ll pray for them.
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Trump to designate antifa a 'major terrorist organization'

Nah, I'll believe it when antifa punks at college protests are being treated just like ISIS. Otherwise it's all bluster.
Will you believe it if he signs an executive order?
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How is everybody?

Hopefully well. Are you guys ready for fall?

What's the latest at your parishes and in your lives (if you care to share)?
I’m SO ready for fall. I hate this heat and we haven’t had rain in a long time. We’ve got rain and lower temps in the forecast, so that’s good.
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Charlie Kirk Didn’t Shy Away From Who He Was. We Shouldn’t, Either

Miller has declared freedom of speech to be "a growing domestic terrorist movement." Exactly what people predicted would happen in a Trump administration. Kirk was not a very nice guy, and it's not surprising that a lot of people would say so. While his killing coincides with his break with the Trump administration on the Epstein files, there were plenty of people not involved with Epstein who didn't like him.

The killing of 31-year-old conservative activist and Trump ally Charlie Kirk has reignited attention on a long-simmering feud within elements of the far right. The differences between Kirk and the so-called "Groyper" movement led by white nationalist Nick Fuentes is again back in spotlight.
Charlie Kirk critic Nick Fuentes fantasied about marrying 16-year-old, compared Jews killed by Nazis to 'cookies baked in oven'

Regardless, in a free country, any person is entitled First Amendment protection of speech. Miller and his crew are looking to put an end to it.
Le I said its from both sides and the current celebrating and justifying of his murder doesn't help.
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Transcript of Kirk's killer's messages has been revealed

Who'd they murder? Someone get hanged on that?
I dont think they got the memo that whataboutism isn't going to work anymore. Charlie Kirk was killed, and in a floating moment of excitement, many on the left took of their mask and showed the world who they really were, and the world was disgusted. There is truly nothing even close in comparison to warrant a what about.
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Charlie Kirk Didn’t Shy Away From Who He Was. We Shouldn’t, Either

Why does it seem like that spike is from the Left? The same day as the Kirk murder, a righty-wing white supremacist shot up a high school. A few months ago, a crazy right-winger murdered a MN state legislator and her husband, shot another and his wife, and had plans to kill a bunch more.

Jan 6 aside, the left may have a near-monopoly on large-scale public upheavals like riots (though in many cases, the police seem to provide as much fuel to those fires), but when it comes to killings, or attempted killings, it's been predominantly right-wing ideology driving it.



"Cancel culture" has been a hallmark of conservative culture since the beginning of human history. There was loads of "cancel culture" during segregation when folks dared integrate their private businesses. There was loads of "cancel culture" during the red scare when professors and entertainers were black listed. There was loads of "cancel culture" directed at the LGBTQ community up until very recently when their rights were finally enshrined in law - not just for things like wedding cakes, but for protections against discrimination in employment and housing situations.

What happened is not that the left invented "cancel culture." What happened is that the left developed and started enforcing its own sort of dogmatic orthodoxy, just like the right had already been doing for millennia. Essentially, it's a form of left-wing conservatism.
Le I said its from both sides and the current celebrating and justifying of his murder doesn't help.
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Trump to designate antifa a 'major terrorist organization'

They don't often travel in boats, and I'd bet they will avoid the water from now on.
Nah, I'll believe it when antifa punks at college protests are being treated just like ISIS. Otherwise it's all bluster.
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Take a stand on political violence

And some fought vociferously against it.
And dome fought vociferously for it. Yes yes we have heard your points ad nauseum. Its time to recognize that not all Christains believed that way. And certainly do not today. Some probably still do which is not following what Paul said. Refusing to acknowledge BOTH and only focusing on one makes one an ideologue and unworthy of being heard.
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Eric Trump on Charlie Kirk’s Legacy and the Radical Left – “This Could Have Been the Greatest Mistake These People Have Ever Made” (VIDEO)

This garbage needs to stop once and for all. Predators like Harvey Milk should never be celebrated. Enough is enough!
As I have said, people are not born LGBT, they are groomed and recruited. This is how they reproduce the next generation.
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