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David Lamb · 2025-12-09T01:08:21-0600

Apple Sky said:
No not then bit they knew where all this was leading too, from Newton to Albert Einstein to Morley & Tesla and then eventually NASA.

So (just to be sure I haven't misunderstood you) you think that the "establishment" of Luther's time somehow knew about future (to them) people like Einstein and Tesla, and organisations like NASA?

Jipsah · 2025-12-09T01:05:50-0600

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samaus123456789 said:
But then again i tend to ihinkI made a post about it. It links back to Solomon 3 times via 666, and also wisdom, and understanding which links to the modern country "Israel", and the mark of the beast is the hexagram. It is in heavy code so that it can only be unlocked by someone that studies the bible a lot, studies the life of Solomon deliberately, and specifically, is willing to follow the text of the bible wherever it leads, and is willing to say what the bible says even if it is unpopular amongst other Christians. Also if it said in plain language "the mark of the beast is the hexagram on the future country Israel" the Christian Zionists would mock the bible, and say it has been corrupted that is not what it said originally.

That kinda sounds " too clever by half", but then again I tend to think most explanations of Revelation are.

Ivan Hlavanda · 2025-12-09T01:02:24-0600

DamianWarS said:
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Balanced & Reasonable
“AI is just a tool, like a concordance, commentary, or Bible dictionary. Christians have always used tools to help study Scripture. What matters isn’t who helps you look something up, but whether the conclusions are tested against Scripture itself.”

Direct but Respectful
“AI doesn’t replace the Holy Spirit or personal study. It simply gathers information quickly. If someone is grounded in Scripture, AI is no more dangerous than using a commentary from a pastor they’ve never met.”

Pointed / Reddit-style
“Christians have been using non-inspired tools for centuries—Strong’s Concordance, lexicons, sermons, study Bibles, YouTube pastors. AI is just a faster index. The authority is still Scripture; the tool doesn’t change that.”

Historical Angle
“The early church copied manuscripts, consulted teachers, and debated theology. Using tools to study the Bible is nothing new. Technology changes—interpretation standards don’t.”

If You Want a Slightly Snarky Version
“So Christians shouldn’t use AI, but we can use Google, commentaries, sermons, and study Bibles written by fallible humans? The issue isn’t AI; the issue is discernment. Test everything, hold fast to what is good (1 Thess. 5:21).”

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But AI is more than just summary. AI is to use fake voices, fake images, videos and what not. Christians use AI for prayers, teachings, sermons. Where is the authenticity? Where is the heart that God desires? We worship the Lord with new hearts of flesh, and not like machines. Prayers, sermons it's not about using beautiful words, but words from a heart that fears and love the Lord.

Yes, technology is just a tool. A good servant but a terrible god, it can become easily our idol. So in sense technology is not bad, but it is the way we use it. AI however, is much much worse.

We can have a discussion, but I want a discussion with a human being, not AI

stevevw · 2025-12-09T01:00:55-0600

Hans Blaster said:
Are you not middle-aged Australian?

Yes and thats part of the problem. You assume certain demographiscs with certain beliefs and positions. Classic IP.

Hans Blaster said:
I had to build the most extreme caricature of an ignorant MAGA Trump superfan to come close to your dogmatic and uninformed presentation on the current US president. I was certainly not stereotyping American Trump supporters.

What exactly about what I said was dogmatic.

Hans Blaster said:
Guests on "Lindell . tv" do not meet the normative definition of experts.

What exactly was said that was not in line with the expert opinion. See this is where my lack of knowing what sources are stereotyped themselves. I just go by the content of what was said. If that happens to be a source you don't like thats not my problem.

The content is in line with the experts and that why I linked it. Purely on what was said and not where it came from. I don't care where it came from because the whole idea of certain sources being good or bad is itself a subject and often biased opinion.

Hans Blaster said:
The other posters? I could believe that you take the worst of their ideas and layer on your own ignorance of American politics, culture, and history.

No not the other posters but the experts. That is where I am getting my information. Its not the worse or any subjective qualification. Its the facts.

Hans Blaster said:
Which is not America. (My HS classmates also got stuck fighting that war.)

The point is you don't have to be an American to know American politics. You can know American politics from Americans who know American politics and then you use your senses to take that info in. I do understand english and what words mean lol.

When they say the evidence shows that massive fraud has been committed and show the evidence I can be informed. Then refer to that as counter evidence to someone who claimed that Trump was a fraudster. That they have no moral ground to stand on.

Hans Blaster said:
Than me wasn't the issue. It was your knowledge relative to the other conservative posters. I'd still put up their understanding of American reality over you any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Most of this is not about American or Australia or any nations politics. Its plain right and wrong. The moral truth, commonsense, reality, whatever you want to call it.

Hans Blaster said:
Real or not, it is irrelevant to the thread and THAT was my point.

And my point was that this was a sub thread over moral hypocracy. About the same people that are morally outraged have double standards and thus bias.

From what I was seeing with people making all these extreme claims about Hegseth and TRump being murderers and commiting war crimes. That same old extreme narratives ike Kirk and Trump are Nazis ect. It was my point that these same people have been quiet happy to allow 10 times worse bad behaviour and have no moral leg to stand on.

This was also based on the fact that the language was implying guilt in doing something morally wrong without the intel. This showing a willingness to jump to the negative due to political bias and partisanship.

This was reality. I am am merely pointing this out. I have not said anything about the right or wrongness of the situation. Just pointing out howw the usual Trump haters are quick to jump the gun (pardon the pun) lol.

Hans Blaster said:
You were whingeing about anti-Christian bias related to criticism of Trump's policy/action which is rather silly as Trump is at best a nominal Christian. (And I understand the moral depravity of your position on narco boat killings.)

I was not making a case for Trump being a Christian or that this is about Christ v non or Dems v Rep or Left v Right or anti immigration or anything.

I was simply using those examples of the hypocracy of how the Dems under Biden and Obama did all that they accuse Trump of and have no moral leg to stand on. That it was their now proven extreme bias that causes people not to trust a word they say.

So when people start jumping the gun again and making all these assumptions of guilt and extreme claims of war crimes its history repeating itself. So its right to point it out.

Hans Blaster said:
Are the Aussie commentators really that bad? (or just the ones on the "Fox News" of Australia.) (I am well aware that Ruprect Murdock is Australia's worst crime against America.)

You can't help yourself can you. Doubling down now on IP. Us Aussies must be dumb, they could not possibly know anything. That bad old Fox News.

Did you notice at I mentioned that "even the Australian experts agreed". I said they were agreeing with the American experts

Hans Blaster said:
But how can you *know* what any poster's position on drone strikes by Obama or whatever was?

It does not matter because everyone will pick a side and both sides are as bad as the other lol. But usually when people are so fixated on the opposition [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] political.

But even if its moral there are mmore than one position. So when someone starts claiming "shoulds" then we can say that they have jumped the gun because they don't have the facts. Thus exposing their bias in assuming a wrong for that particular situations when similar ones or other views are just as relevant.

Hans Blaster said:
You certainly don't know mine.

If someone states that what happened is X and this "should not" have happened as its morally wrong. Then they are declaring their position. We can read a lot from the actual words that come out of peoples mouths lol. Its the most direct way of knowing what they think and believe.

Thats unless you think what people about a situation or themselves cannot be trusted.

Hans Blaster said:
Now please, let's go back to discussing the news item on the current sequence of drone strikes on drug boats off the coast of Venezuela

Actually I am going to bow out. I don't see any point and I have said all I can say on the issue. It will be a continual back and forth of peoples subjective moral beliefs on the situation without the clear facts. Which are yet to come out.

rjs330 · 2025-12-09T00:59:26-0600

GoldenBoy89 said:
It is outlawed and punishable by death in Uganda where the population is well over 80% Christian.

Yup, and thats bad. How many Muslim countries is it outlawed and punishable by death?

rjs330 · 2025-12-09T00:57:56-0600

GoldenBoy89 said:
We don’t have an Islamist president.

I'm glad we don't.

rjs330 · 2025-12-09T00:57:08-0600

BCP1928 said:
Why don't you put some of your own words there instead and answer my question about how these Muslim immigrants will get past the Constitution and the majority of the voters.

You made the claim or at least an i situation I daid something I didn't. You have a habit of doing that.

Who do you think is allowing this? It's governments and the people in the communities. You know, the voters.

rjs330 · 2025-12-09T00:54:27-0600

Larniavc said:
No we aren’t! Your view of Europe and the UK is silly.

Nope, its based upon reality of whats going on. I could post a ton of information on this, but once again I was proven correct by another poster that anything linked to is summarily dismissed and its a waste of time. But I will post information just like above.

rjs330 · 2025-12-09T00:52:27-0600

Larniavc said:
Don’t be silly. Name them.

There are 30 large Sharia courts in the UK. There are as many smaller ones.

Oompa Loompa · 2025-12-09T00:44:05-0600

Yarddog said:
We are not at war with Venezuela or drug traffickers

https://thehill.com/homenews/5535523-trump-armed-conflict-drug-cartels-caribbean/

BasedLutheran · 2025-12-09T00:28:35-0600

Gene2memE said:
Misleading title is misleading.

It's not just Democrats that are having "existential meltdowns" about the vaccine schedule changes. It's pretty much the entirety of the US medical profession.

Statement from Leading Medical, Health and Patient Advocacy Groups on CDC Vaccine Meeting | ACP Online

Dec. 5, 20205— “We are deeply alarmed by the actions taken this week by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP). The apparent goal of this meeting was to sow doubt in vaccines rather than advance sound vaccine policy, and we will all...

www.acponline.org

You repeated yourself.

Gene2memE said:
This is false. There are no EU/EEA countries that wait until five months to deliver Hepatitus B vaccines

Vaccine Scheduler | ECDC

Giving insight in the vaccine schedules in all countries of the EU, provided by the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC).

vaccine-schedule.ecdc.europa.eu

Hm, your right, I think I was looking at Czechia wrong. But thanks for posting because looking even closer, i see Finland doesn't recommend or require it outside of at-risk infants, at all. Iceland doesn't either, and Hungary doesn't until age 12

tturt · 2025-12-09T00:27:40-0600

Joining others in welcoming you to CF

What an opportunity to study Judaism.

Hope you find your times here rewarding.

Apple Sky · 2025-12-09T00:18:21-0600

tturt · 2025-12-09T00:15:40-0600

walter45 · 2025-12-09T00:07:58-0600

Doesn't Jesus speak about love for God and love for neighbor as being more important than most anything?

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Yes, absolutely; Jesus taught that loving God wholeheartedly and loving your neighbor as yourself are the first and greatest commandments, summarizing all other laws and prophets in these two, showing they are the foundation of faith and more important than rituals or rules. He emphasized this isn't just a feeling but requires tangible actions of care, compassion, and generosity towards everyone, even enemies, linking love for God and love for others as inseparable.

Yttrium · 2025-12-09T00:00:54-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
What should be the procedural cut-off for when an executive branch makes an administrative change to rules and prerequisites?

Cut off new applications. Don't slam the door on people who are already in the process of becoming citizens.

Kathleen30 · 2025-12-08T23:51:19-0600

Apple Sky said:
Then why was he right ? Martin Luther didn't seem to think so.

Nor did John Calvin. All looked upon the heliocentric proposition with disdain

Apple Sky · 2025-12-08T23:50:59-0600

prodromos said:
What about Flamenco guitar?

Love it

Apple Sky · 2025-12-08T23:45:14-0600

jonojim1337 said:
Well the flights I’ve seen didn’t go straight over it but in a pattern that would be possible on a flat earth. Maybe Byrd did, but I recall that was classified. Also Buzz went deep into Antarctica and tweeted something strange. But you can correct me if I’m wrong regarding the historical flights.

What ever Buzz Aldrin encountered in Antarctica made him really ill.

jonojim1337 said:
Ah right, now I get it.

In regards to your question, I would have to plot it on the moon map, as that would be the, accurate fat world map. Maybe some other day. Issues with projection have to be accounted for as well as you can see.

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I'm a great believer that the moon reflects a map of the earth.

jonojim1337 said:
Here’s another version:

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However, this is in of itself a projected image, and might have some distortion.

It's bound to have a bit of distortion as the moon is under some kind plasma or water.

jonojim1337 said:
It might be under water, or we have fake maps. Who knows.

It is under some sort of liquid.

Here is some footage that crow777 captured'

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Gene2memE · 2025-12-08T23:43:47-0600

probinson said:
So, more accurately, Democrats and mostly-Democrat associated health organizations. In particular, those that are funded primarily by pharmaceutical companies. Like the American Association of Pediatrics, as one example. Here's who funds them according to their website:

Ah, the old guilt by association.

probinson said:
But I'm sure their recommendations are 100% pure and untainted by the fact that nearly all of their funding comes from the pharmaceutical companies that manufacture these vaccines.

Medical associations receive funding from medical companies. Because that's who they interact with and are involved with.

Like sports associations receive funding from sports companies. And Republicans receive funding from ...

probinson said:
In any event, the new recommendation from ACIP is consistent with many other developed nations of only giving the Hep B vaccine to high-risk newborns. There's no reason for medical organizations to be "deeply alarmed".

Except that the medical associations ARE concerned. Because this decision will "lead to more childhood hepatitis B infections, will lead to more chronic infections that will follow patients into adulthood, and will complicate vaccine access for children".

Those are VERY GOOD reasons to be "deeply alarmed".

There is also a broader reason to be "deeply alarmed".

This decision was taken with no new evidence with an ACIP board that has been concocted for its ideological purity rather than its independent expertise.

The presentations around the vaccination established no causal link to any injury beyond "death following anaphylaxis", based on a 1994 study. There was not a single public-health based reason given supporting the decision to revise the schedule. Instead, what there was was a lot of picture of sad babies with needles and insinuations about phamecutical firms.

The complaint that there were "randomized, placebo-controlled, extended follow-up trials" is just so telling. As is the admission that "The safety concern may be more theoretical than real".

This is the thin edge of the wedge. RFK Jnr and his pack of cronies are out to destroy one of the greatest achievements in human health.

Ivan Hlavanda · 2025-12-08T23:42:48-0600

Douggg said:
Didn't Elijah and Moses appear with Jesus on the mount of transfiguration? Matthew 17:1-6.

Yes, it is one of the reason I believe they are the two witnesses

The reason why I believe it to be Moses and Elijah is the miracles the two witnesses perform in Rev 11

5 And if anyone would harm them, fire pours from their mouth and consumes their foes. If anyone would harm them, this is how he is doomed to be killed. 6 They have the power to shut the sky, that no rain may fall during the days of their prophesying, and they have power over the waters to turn them into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague, as often as they desire.

Who had the the power to shut the sky and no rain fell? Elijah
Who turned water to blood and brought plagues? Moses

I have other reasons to believe it's them, but that would take a while.

What I am definitely sure of, is that they are 2 literal persons, and not a metaphor for the Church and Israel

prodromos · 2025-12-08T23:40:59-0600

Apple Sky said:
I detest Jazz & the rock music of today, my Favorited music is classical guitar

What about Flamenco guitar? I saw John Williams and Paco Peña perform live together. They were using their 'fame' to introduce audiences to the folk band "Inti-Illimani" from Chile.

prodromos · 2025-12-08T23:31:25-0600

Apple Sky said:
The idea of December was paganism & comes from Saturnalia,

You have a habit of posting false information. Happy to see that others have already corrected you.

iluvatar5150 · 2025-12-08T23:28:46-0600

Servus said:
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Are you able to use words to articulate your point?

Douggg · 2025-12-08T23:25:42-0600

Ivan Hlavanda said:
Who do you believe to be the two witnesses?
I believe Elijah and Moses

I don't know. But you could be right.

It may be two unknown to us persons born and raised in recent years. That way, there would be a record of their life up to then. Or as you say, maybe some persons like Elijah and Moses.

Didn't Elijah and Moses appear with Jesus on the mount of transfiguration? Matthew 17:1-6.

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