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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

If I were american, I'd be more worried, knowing that when the illegal order to kill me will come down, it will also not be refused.

Hopefully our future enemies won't stoop to our level
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Has anyone attempted a 40 day fast?

Daniel the prophet fasted but still ate ( see Daniel 1:1-21 verses 8 & 12 in particular). Even this though is pretty rigorous and individual health concerns must be taken into account.

Daniel ate “pulse”


Daniel ate healthy things but almost all of us need more. In Orthodoxy, our fasting practices are vegan but even there individuals must take their health into account in line with needs like in proteins and calcium etc.
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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

from what I understand the hits on drug boats has had an almost immediate effect and there are no boats coming in with drugs. So already 1,000s of lives saved. Surely thats a good thing.

Well, you understand wrong, there's still plenty of boats.
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Prayer Request: Seeking Peace and Strength in Daily Life

Hello everyone, I would like to ask for prayer.

Lately, I’ve been feeling emotionally overwhelmed because of my father. In my daily life, I often have to be with him, and he frequently brings up heavy topics, complains, or speaks in ways that feel intense and pressing. This leaves me feeling anxious, drained, and afraid of losing my peace. I naturally long for calm, quiet, and a gentle environment, but daily life makes it very hard to find these moments.

I know that in January I will have to travel and spend whole days with him, which adds to my worry. I want to be emotionally strong, but I feel the weight of constant tension and pressure.

I am asking for God’s help to use the next two months to cultivate peace in my heart, so that I can:

Handle daily life with patience, calmness, and joy

Remain gentle, wise, and emotionally resilient when interacting with my father in January

Maintain healthy boundaries without dishonoring him

Keep my spirit connected to God’s presence and inner peace despite challenges

Please pray for God’s peace, strength, and guidance in my daily life, and that I may be prepared emotionally and spiritually for the month of January.

Thank you so much for your prayers. I deeply trust God to guard my heart, restore my calm, and fill my days with His peace.
Many of us are standing with you. Life challenges us, but through Christ we are conquerors!
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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

I mean you could look at each boat full of drugs thats going to harm and kill around 20,000 people per boat could be compared to a boat launching a missile and killing and harming 20,000 people.

They are just doing it over a longer time. But whats the difference. The drug lords know exactly that their drugs will lead to killing and destroying 1,000s of lives. At what point do we say enough and just allow the drugs to come in.

from what I understand the hits on drug boats has had an almost immediate effect and there are no boats coming in with drugs. So already 1,000s of lives saved. Surely thats a good thing.
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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

Cool.

People accused of drug trafficking still deserve a day in court.
Which court lol. Do you mean the Venezuelan courts. Hum some how I don't think the Narcos care about courts and justice. Thats if you can catch them.

No one has bothered to bring any of these drug lords to justice and no courts will stop them. Arrest one and two replace them. The only thing they understand is an authority more powerful than they are and the threat of severe consequences if they continue.

Just like the terrorist they don't listen to reason because they are evil. There is no negociations for peace and order. Believe it or not but there is evil in the world that does not care for the way in which the west or Christian nations think.
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@David Lamb @Strong in Him @prodromos & to who ever it may concern.

Just to let you know I am feeling a lot better now thanks to the Lord, thank you for all your kind concerns, I thought I were dying. You are really terrific people on here.

Many blessing :praying:

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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

According to this post you sound awfully pro-terrorist. Shame!
If I were american, I'd be more worried, knowing that when the illegal order to kill me will come down, it will also not be refused.
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The Mamdani Model: More Socialist Mayors to ComeBeware! The DSA will attempt to repeat Mamdani’s success in other Democrat strongholds.

Yeah and national socialism isn't real socialism

It isn't and it wasn't.

Can you name a "socialist" policy that the NSDAP put in place?

Nazi political policy wasn't socialist. It was explicitly anti-socialist.

Nazi economic policy wasn't socialist. It was a mix of corporatism, crony capitalism and industrially driven autarky in preparation for expansionist war.

Nazi social policy wasnt socialist. It weakened universal social systems, emphasised 'traditional' class and gender roles and rejected notions of equal rights and dignities.

As long as we have the Supreme Court we're not a democracy.

The existence of a final appelate court for constitutional matters is not exclusionary of a democratic form of government.

The US is a constitutional presidential republic. That's a form of indirect democracy (because the power rests with the people, expressed through their elected representatives).

Why do certain parts of the US political spectrum maintain this insistence that only direct/pure/Athenian style democracy with simple majority counts as a democracy?
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The Economist on Trump Economy

In his second term Donald Trump has torn up not just trade rules but the machinery of economic measurement. After lashing out at weak job figures, he sacked the head of the Bureau of Labour Statistics in August, unsettling markets. A month-long government shutdown has since paused nearly all official data releases, leaving policymakers “driving in the fog”, as Jerome Powell, chair of the Federal Reserve, put it.

The worry about driving in the fog is that when the data is released it may show a road that is alot rougher than expected. I would note too that with such potential data to make markets volatile, the temptation for insider trading for those in the know could be higher than usual. Trump also has proposals to switch some data to be reported every 3 months. If the economy is a patient that at times might need treatment, timely and as accurate data as possible is helpful, not a hindrance.
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WHAT DOES PAUL. SAID OF Eph 1 : 4. !!

The actual term "born again" which is what Nicodemus was supposed to have understood comes from Ezekiel.

Eze 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
Eze 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Eze 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

This was for the faithful remnant of Israel that would enter the earthly kingdom. While Christians could be called "regenerated" when receiving new and eternal life when placed into the body of Christ, it can be confusing to also call this being "born again".
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Eve and the Fallacy of Moral Choices

First off in Mark 4:15 Jesus specifically says: “Some people” and not “all people”.
IF you believe that is the case THEN Matt. 4:4, Luke 4:4 and Deut. 8:3 are all WRONG

or, your reasoning is off

IF all have sin, (we do) and sin is of the devil, (it is) then Mark 4:15 applies to everyone

IF we are tempted in mind/heart, (we are) then Mark 4:15 is true again

I could go on, but if you exempt yourself from Mark 4:15 then you are basically rejecting the Word of God

And of course we know who does that don't we?

The balance of your reply is self justification, which I can't do in light of the above

Oh, and btw I do believe in eternal hell, for the devil and his messengers so that question is off the table
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A long-lost Rubens painting depicting Crucifixion sells for $2.7 million

I'm always bemused by how much some works of art cost when their creators often lived in poverty.

Rubens was wealthy for most of his life but there were plenty who struggled financially.

From an AI response -
Artists who died in poverty

Vincent van Gogh: Despite creating work that would later be worth millions, he sold only one painting during his lifetime and relied on his brother, Theo, for financial support.

Amedeo Modigliani: Lived in extreme poverty in Paris, sometimes trading paintings for meals and creating art on scavenged materials.

Paul Gauguin: Died poor and alone, his work not appreciated during his lifetime, though he experienced periods of financial struggle throughout his life.

Rembrandt van Rijn: A successful 17th-century painter who died in poverty after overspending on his art collection and being forced to sell his house and printing press.

Frans Hals: Another Dutch painter who fell into poverty in his later years as his style fell out of fashion, forcing him to sell his belongings.

Claude Monet: The famous Impressionist struggled financially for much of his life and could hardly make a living from his art.

Sandro Botticelli: Once celebrated, he died poor and forgotten after the death of his patron and a shift in artistic style in Florence.

Artists who experienced early poverty

Pablo Picasso: His early years in Paris were marked by extreme poverty, to the point where he reportedly burned some of his own work for warmth. He eventually moved out of poverty and his financial situation improved significantly over time.
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‘Go to Berkeley’: Ron DeSantis said students seeking ‘woke’ classes should study elsewhere

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“If you want to do things like gender ideology, go to (the University of California) Berkeley,” DeSantis added. “There’s nothing wrong with that, per se, but for us with our tax dollars, we want to focus on the classical mission of what a university is supposed to be.”

“What this does is reorient our universities back to their traditional mission and part of that traditional mission is to treat people as individuals, not to try to divvy them up based on any type of superficial characteristics,” DeSantis said.


US Rank 2026WUR Rank 2026UniversityOverallTeachingResearch EnvironmentResearch QualityIndustryInternational Outlook
12Massachusetts Institute of Technology97.799.295.399.610091.9
2=3Princeton University97.298.297.3999885.4
=3=5Harvard University97.195.910098.986.788.3
=3=5Stanford University97.197.597.499.510083.9
57California Institute of Technology96.396.497.496.810087.9
69University of California, Berkeley94.487.39998.999.583.9
710Yale University94.194.694.597.287.681.4


1) According to the TIMES HIGHER EDUCATION WORLD UNIVERSITY RANKINGS, the University of California (Berkeley) ranks 6th among US universities and 9th in the world!

2) Two other California universities actually rank ahead of Berkeley, the California Institute of Technology and Stan ford (tied with Harvard) rank 5th and 3rd for US universities - 7th and 6th worldwide!

3) A total of 9 universities in California were slotted ahead of the University of Florida (44th) - the highest ranked university in that state!

3rd - Stanford University (5th worldwide)
5th - California Institute of Technology (7th worldwide)
6th - University of California Berkeley (9th worldwide)
11th - University of California Los Angeles ranks (18th worldwide)
22nd - University of California San Diego ranks 22nd (47th worldwide)
25th - University of California Davis 25th (64th worldwide)28th - University of California Santa Barbara (72nd worldwide)
29th - University of Southern California (73rd worldwide)
35th - University of California Irvine (97th worldwide)

44th - University of Florida (134th worldwide)

4) Apparently Governor DeSantis has decided to start his 2028 Presidental Campaign early but he's finally learned the hard way not to renew his fight with Disney!

5) Now he's decided to take a page out of President Trump's playbook, he's picking a fight with the universities - threatening to establish his own accreditation board as a means of forcing Florida's institutions to comply!

6) Florida's Governor has assumed the role of determining what can/can't be taught in that state's institutions for the express purpose "to focus on the classical mission of what a university is supposed you be!"

7) Someone should inform the Governor that try as he might, he can't recapture his idyllic version of "THE GOOD OLD DAYS" and that the 1950's are not about to make a comeback anytime soon!

8) DeSantis' comments directed at Berkeley, that supposed "bastion of woke," are all the more misguided, given that the Governor has unintentionally issued an open invitation to compare Florida's public universities with those of California - a state where the Governor has made no attempt to impose his will on what is being taught!

9) As previously stated, the "Times Higher Education World University Rankings"
places the University of California Berkeley as the 6th best university in America and 9th in the World - in fact, California has currently placed 3 universities in the Top 10 in the world (2 public, 1 private)!

10) California also has 9 universities (7 public, 2 private) that rank in the Top 35 nationally and all are included within the Top 100 internationally!

11) Compare "woke" California where all 9 universities are ranked ahead of the highest placed university in Florida, where no institution of higher learning, public or private, managed to be included among the Top 100 worldwide!

44th - University of Florida (134th worldwide)
56th - University of Miami (private)(201-250 worldwide)
66th - Florida State University (301-350 worldwide)
74th - University of South Florida (351-400 worldwide)
80th - Florida International University (401-500 worldwide)

12) Many of Florida's universities, both private and public, are better known for their football program than academics!

13) In 2023, Governor DeSantis set aside $1 million in pubic funds to finance a Florida State University's (FSU) legal challenge directed at the College Football Playoff Committee when FSU wasn't included as one of the playoff teams that year!






TIMES HIGHER EDUCATION WORLD UNIVERSITY RANKINGS, the University of California (Ber

“If you want to do things like gender ideology, go to (the University of California) Berkeley,” DeSantis added. “There’s nothing wrong with that, per se, but for us with our tax dollars, we want to focus on the classical mission of what a university is supposed to be.”

“What this does is reorient our universities back to their traditional mission and part of that traditional mission is to treat people as individuals, not to try to divvy them up based on any type of superficial characteristics,” DeSantis said.
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Minnesota is drowning in fraud.

Who is this? An Islamic group that follows a strict Salafi-jihadi ideology. They are seeking to establish an Islamic emirate in Somalia governed by its extreme interpretation of Sharia law. It is strongly anti-Western, anti-African Union, and opposes the Federal Government of Somalia (FGS), which it considers apostate.

This coming from a State governed by someone who could have been VP.
Reminds me of the story about Haitians eating cats and dogs.
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The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

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Time to do a tiny bit of research. I wonder what they are hiding in the north pole. :D

Well according to Admiral R. Byrd they are hiding loads, could it be paradise or this black magnetic rock ( Rupes Nigra ) ? After all, all compasses point to the north.

Compass = Come pass
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Christians are Abrahams seed

From chat GPT

1. CHRISTIANS ARE ABRAHAM’S SEED


Galatians 3:7


“Those who are of faith, these are the sons of Abraham.”

Galatians 3:9


“So then, those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham.”

Galatians 3:14


“That the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus.”

Galatians 3:16


“The promises were made to Abraham and to his seed… and that seed is Christ.”

Galatians 3:26–29


“If you are Christ’s, you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”

Romans 4:11–12


Abraham is the father of all who believe, whether circumcised or uncircumcised.

Romans 4:16


“He is the father of us all.”



2. CHRISTIANS ARE HEIRS TO ABRAHAM’S PROMISE


Romans 8:16–17


“If children, then heirs—heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ.”

Galatians 4:28


“Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are children of promise.”

Galatians 4:30


Believers are the inheritors, like Isaac, not Ishmael.


Hebrews 6:17


God confirmed the promise to Abraham for the heirs (Christians).




3. CHRISTIANS ARE JEWS INWARDLY, THE TRUE CIRCUMCISION


Romans 2:28–29


“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly…
but he is a Jew who is one inwardly,
and circumcision is of the heart, in the Spirit.”

Philippians 3:3


“For we are the circumcision, who worship God in the Spirit…
and have no confidence in the flesh.”

Colossians 2:11


Christians receive the circumcision of Christ, not made with hands.




4. CHRISTIANS ARE “THE ISRAEL OF GOD”


Galatians 6:16


“Peace be upon them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.”

Most scholars agree Paul uses this to describe the church, not ethnic Israel.




5. CHRISTIANS ARE THE TEMPLE, PRIESTHOOD, AND HOLY NATION


All titles given originally to Israel in the Old Testament.


1 Peter 2:5


“You are a holy priesthood.”

1 Peter 2:9


“You are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation,
a people for His own possession.”

(These titles come from Exodus 19:5–6 describing Israel.)


1 Peter 2:10


“Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God.”

1 Corinthians 3:16–17


Christians are God’s Temple.


Ephesians 2:19–22


Believers are fellow citizens, part of the household of God, being built into a holy Temple.





John 15:1 Jesus is the true vine

I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman"





7. CHRISTIANS ARE THE CHILDREN OF GOD / CHILDREN OF PROMISE


John 1:12–13


“To all who received Him… children of God.”

Romans 9:6–8


“Not all who are of Israel are Israel…
The children of promise are counted as the seed.”

Paul explains that true Israel is defined by faith, not ethnicity.


Galatians 4:4–7


Believers become sons and heirs.




8. CHRISTIANS ARE “ONE NEW MAN,” NOT TWO PEOPLES


Ephesians 2:11–18


Christ abolished the dividing wall and created:


One new man from the two.”

Not two covenants.
Not two Israels.
One reconciled people in Christ.




9. CHRISTIANS INHERIT THE WORLD / THE KINGDOM


Romans 4:13


The promise to Abraham was that he would inherit the world,
and this promise comes through faith, not the law.

Matthew 5:5


“The meek shall inherit the earth.”

1 Corinthians 6:2


Christians will judge the world.




10. CHRISTIANS ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE JERUSALEM ABOVE


Galatians 4:26


“The Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother.”

This contrasts with earthly Jerusalem enslaved under the law.
Also Jesus was Abrahams seed so God gave Canaan to Jesus around 2100 BC the Israelites were only temporary residents on the land. Jesus did not want the land so he replaced it with the new Jerusalem for his followers Christians. Canaan /Palestine is no longer the promise land.

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