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Hentenza · 2025-12-03T19:50:31-0600

concretecamper said:
I find it funny you come to that conclusion since the Bible itself doesn't conclude it. Ugh. Your promoting a man made tradition.

Is Catholic Tradition (big T) outside of scripture infallible?

samaus123456789 · 2025-12-03T19:49:44-0600

then according to you that verse is blasphemy for calling saul the messiah. good luck.

Hentenza · 2025-12-03T19:48:06-0600

Servus said:
I'm just trying to establish where certain people are going with this.

Fair enough.

Servus said:
Most likely not. But it's not entirely certain what all actually took place.

The video is quite graphic though. I’m sure at best an admiral is going to loose their job.

samaus123456789 · 2025-12-03T19:46:37-0600

I reuploaded it and it works now

https://www.academia.edu/145278241/New_Testament_papyri_in_Cave_7_at_Qumran_Author_s_Jos%C3%A9

Dan Perez · 2025-12-03T19:45:28-0600

Dave... said:
Hey Dan, I would say, not hell, but Hades. Hell, as understood by 16th century Christians who translated the KJV, carried the same idea as Hades does today, called Sheol in the OT. The NKJV Bible fixed that. I agree that it's not a parable. Abrahams bosom, that's where OT believers who where physically dead waited for Jesus and the cross. Promises don't justify, nor do they make born again, only in Christ do we have those things that save us. Without the Holy spirit indwelling (baptism with the Holy Spirit, we are not in Christ and not saved.

And I had a booklet from. the BEREAN BIBLE , WHERE they printed a booklet and THERE IS

#1. HELL

# 2 HADES

# 3 PARADISE , MENTIONED ONE TIME IN LUKE. , ONE. TIME BY THE ONE ON. THE CROOS WITH CHRIST AND ONE

in 2 COR 12:5

# 4 SHEOL;

# 5 GRAVE

# 6. DARKNESS

# 7 GEHANIA

dan p

Dave... · 2025-12-03T19:43:58-0600

Guojing said:
I think you are using the term "church" and the "Body of Christ" equivalently.

The Body of Christ is indeed the church for today.

But that does not mean anytime you see the word "church" in scripture, it must be the Body of Christ (Acts 7:38)

Church means "called out assembly" and such assembly existed even in the OT.

Yes, Jesus is the true Church, the Body of Christ. 1 Corinthians 12:13

concretecamper · 2025-12-03T19:42:46-0600

Always in His Presence said:
If a teaching or tradition is not found in the Scriptures - then it is extrabiblical and cannot be treated as infallible.

I find it funny you come to that conclusion since the Bible itself doesn't conclude it. Ugh. Your promoting a man made tradition.

Dave... · 2025-12-03T19:42:34-0600

timf said:
Dave, I appreciate your kind reply. However, I think if you look deeper. the Ezekiel verses parallel the Jeremiah verses in talking about the new covenant for Israel and the earthly kingdom they could expect.

Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

The desire to see everything in the bible (especially the gospels) as applying to us can be very strong. By maintaining a distinction between what is intended for Israel and what is for the body of Christ, we can avoid a lot of confusion. I know it is unconventional and unfamiliar, but then there was a time when not praying to Mary was radical.

Hey Tim

'I will put my Law in the hearts' is the Holy Spirit working from within. It's no longer an external Law but an inward desire. This is what the indwelling, the baptism with the Holy Spirit brings. This all points to what I've already said. The universal knowledge (John 12:32-33). Forgiveness of sins (Romans 3:25-26). All fulfilled at Pentecost with the giving of the Holy Spirit. The 'placing into' Christ which results from that indwelling (1 Corinthians 12:13.

iluvatar5150 · 2025-12-03T19:42:06-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
Or they're only being given one viewpoint.

If it was purely case where something about conservatism was turning moderates off, then the pattern wouldn't be more pronounced the longer they stay in college, correct?

If there's something about conservativism that's off-putting to moderates, then I wouldn't expect having a PhD vs. a Bachelors to impact that the way the chart reflects.

Did you go to college? That sounds jerky, but I don't mean it that way. I ask, because the way you talk about college suggests that you haven't, or that maybe you got an Associates or tech degree and aren't around many people who went much farther than that. What you keep describing is sort of the right-wing media caricature of college, not the reality.

The driver of this educational sorting isn't folks only being given one viewpoint in school. College typically isn't that formative and by the time you're doing graduate work, you're doing a lot of independent study. The drivers are largely cultural - what I would describe as a culture of institutional professionalism.

What I mean by that is not as lofty as it might come off - what I mean is that the Dems have become the party that embodies how you're supposed to act in an office. Some of that is good (e.g. appreciation of data and meritocracy); some of it is bad (e.g. weak and out of touch leadership, gerontocracy, too accepting of bureaucracy); but it all maps cleanly onto "college educated." The Republicans, OTOH, have gone the other direction by appealing to a more instinct-driven, boorish, conspiratorial type that's really out of place in a big office, but a lot more common amongst the entrepreneurial, small business set. Yes, the longer you're in college, especially if you're pursuing a graduate degree, the more likely you are to become acculturated to this form of professionalism and expect it of leaders.

Your data may precede Trump, but it doesn't precede the cultural shifts that facilitated his ascension. He doesn't win a primary in a party that's not already primed to swallow a bunch of wackadoo garbage. What that graph says to me is that about 20% of the population is conservative to the core and will always vote that way. The group in the middle floats, but has, over time, moved left. I'm also noticing now that nearly all of the shift left came between 1994-2004. Between 2004-2015, the left only picked up a couple points, while the right picked up a lot from the "mixed." I'm kind of surprised at the timing of that shift given W's electoral successes.

Oompa Loompa · 2025-12-03T19:40:11-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
Trash Panda strikes again

I think I found my spirit animal. It is a good thing he made it to the toilet. But someone should probably bring him some fast food and an ibuprofen.

Vambram · 2025-12-03T19:38:35-0600

Aryeh Jay said:
Biden was president in April of this year?

He came over here in 2021 and was granted asylum. His legal stay ended in September 2025 and thus remained in the USA illegally.

Coolerranch · 2025-12-03T19:37:56-0600

Yu-Gi-Oh! is a faith based game that details how, like us, individuals interact with each other on a day-to-day basis to either support each other or ultimately neglect each other. But the game advertizes these day-to-day interactions as a battle and even at times encourages the idea that individuals should battle for dominance. Is that really okay? If we take into consideration what Spiritual Warfare is, it seems like our day-to-day interactions are a battle as we step out in faith and go against satan's plans by engaging with each other as God made us to. But can we truly say that God made us to dominate? Maybe it's just wording but I'm always concerned how some people believe satan's lie that they can work for their salvation instead of just believing God. Is it okay for a game to represent these options for living in such an honest way?

camille70 · 2025-12-03T19:36:38-0600

DaisyDay said:
Federal judges can hear appeals in some immigration cases. See Background on Judicial Review of Immigration Decisions for more information.

Why would you think that to be true? If an order is illegally obtained, then it is subject to correction. When there is already a stay, DHS can't simply disregard it.

Immigration judges have a low level and limited authority. They are not the be-all and end-all which would be the Supreme Court. The first step up from immigration judges is the Board of Immigration Appeal which is a body of more immigration judges. The next higher court is the federal district court which can hear appeals.

Agreed. Immigration judges are part of the executive branch, not the judicial branch. They are appointed or removed by the DOJ. Federal judges can overrule them and will if they are violating laws.

Coolerranch · 2025-12-03T19:35:05-0600

Just to put it simply, The Old Testament at this point is describing the Spiritual Warfare that the Israelites had to do in order for those tribes to actually join them and keep themselves honoring God's Will. The science is a bit complicated since most people may not describe what is considered a "tree" in the spiritual sense in the text as a "tree" for the same spiritual thing today if you can even see it.

Say it aint so · 2025-12-03T19:34:58-0600

Bradskii said:
From the link:

'Hegseth said he did not see any survivors in the water, saying the vessel “exploded in fire, smoke, you can’t see anything. ... This is called the fog of war.”

The man is an idiot.

Yes he is an idiot. And he is emblematic of this whole admin. They claim the US is in war against Narco terrorists. There was one strike where they didn't manage to kill everyone on board. They scooped up the survivors. Did they send them to Gitmo? Because you know that's what becomes of enemy combatants. No, they didn't. They released them back home. Why did they do that? I am not a lawyer, but it seems those in Gitmo are afforded lawyers. I kind of think they didn't want those who survived accessible to divulge who they actually were, or weren't.

prodromos · 2025-12-03T19:34:44-0600

Apple Sky said:
Good point here, never looked at it like this.

Ahem

I only pointed out this issue the first time you brought it up.

The problem you have is that the 'lost diary' was brought to your attention by Dean Odle which in your mind gives it an automatic pass since you appear to consider him to be nearly infallible.

Instead, what it should do is open your eyes to just how susceptible Dean Odle is to false ideas, and maybe take him down off that pedestal you've put him up on.

samaus123456789 · 2025-12-03T19:32:20-0600

anointed mashiach messiah christos. look up the words in a concordance or lexicon or just google it. good luck bro.

samaus123456789 · 2025-12-03T19:31:03-0600

Guojing said:
Are you aware that, in scripture, the singular nation only refers to the nation of Israel?

And that, whenever gentile nations are referred to, it is always nations in the plural?

◄ Matthew 21:43 ►

“Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.

That is Jesus talking to the Israelites saying he will give the kingdom of God to non Israelite peoples.

Dave... · 2025-12-03T19:29:16-0600

Guojing said:
Pentecost was a Jewish festival, no gentiles will be coming into Jerusalem (Acts 2:5), and Peter was only speaking to "Men of Israel" (Acts 2:14).

So the Body of Christ did not begin at Pentecost, God was adding the believing Jews into little flock.

As for your point about natural vs spiritual Israel, are you using Romans 9:6 to form that kind of distinction?

Yes, the Jesus believing Jews received the Promise owed to them first. Then the Gentiles. And along the way, all who were true OT believers, had the Gospel preached to them and believed (all that the Father gives Me )see Romans 8:29. We see this through out the book of Acts. This is the transition. The birth of the Church. The first to be baptized with the Holy Spirit are the first to be placed into Christ. This is why we call Pentecost the birth of the Church. Gentiles were added too. True OT believing Gentiles. See Lydia, Cornelius. To name a few. These were true Gentile OT believers who were predestined (Romans 8:29) to be conformed to Christ likeness. The sheep.

Anyways, follow...

OT--Matt 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He [Jesus] who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He (Jesus) will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

OT Acts 1:4-5 And being assembled together with them, He commanded them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the Promise of the Father, "which," He said, "you have heard from Me; for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now." ---(at Pentecost)

Without the Holy Spirit, not justified, not born again, only the promise of it to those who believed.

OT John 12: 32-33 And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself." This He said, signifying by what death He would die.

" the believers in Samaria who were converted under the ministry of Philip had to wait a short while to receive the baptism with the Holy Spirit, until Peter and John came up to Samaria and laid hands on the converts (Acts 8:17). In that unique transitional situation as the Church was beginning, those particular believers had to wait for the Holy Spirit, but they were not told to seek Him. The purpose for that exception was to demonstrate to the apostles, and to bring word back to the Jewish believers in general, that the same Holy Spirit baptized and filled Samaritan believers as baptized and filled Jewish believers--just a short while later Peter and a few other Jewish Christians were sent to witness to Cornelius and his household in order to be convinced that the gospel was for all men and to see that "the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also"(Acts 10:44-45). Those special transitional events did not represent the norm, as our present text makes clear, but were given to indicate to all that the body was one"....

"Why did the Samaritans (and later the Gentiles) have to wait for the apostles before receiving the Spirit? For centuries, the Samaritans and the Jews had been bitter rivals. If the Samaritans had received the Spirit independent of the Jerusalem, that rift would have been perpetuated. There could well have been two separate churches, a Jewish church and a Samaritan church. But God had designed one church, in which "there is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female," but "all are one in Christ Jesus" (Gal. 3:2.)...

By delaying the Spirit's coming until Peter and John arrived, God preserved the unity of the church. The apostles needed to see for themselves, and give firsthand testimony to the Jerusalem church, that the Spirit came upon the Samaritans. The Samaritans also needed to learn that they were subject to apostolic authority. The Jewish believers and Samaritans were thus linked together in one body....

Today, believers receive the Spirit at salvation (cf.1 Cor. 12:13). There was no need for delay after Jews, Gentiles, Samaritans, and Old Testament saints were already included in the church. (Macarthur)

prodromos · 2025-12-03T19:28:01-0600

reBoot said:
Yes, that's just one aspect of it (as a mockery of Christ).

How exactly is it a mockery of Christ?

bbbbbbb · 2025-12-03T19:26:28-0600

mourningdove~ said:
We got our first snow this week ...
and very cold temperatures continue ...

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camille70 · 2025-12-03T19:24:04-0600

We did open enrollment this week. My plan actually dropped 20 bucks but vision and dental went up so I'm paying the same. 370 every two weeks. 740 per month.

Danthemailman · 2025-12-03T19:18:43-0600

RileyG said:
What the heck! How is that possible and legal? UGH!

Anything seems to be possible and legal these days in post covid "twilight zone" America. Enemies of the United States from within (in and out of power) seem determined to transform our country into a dystopian society.

Aryeh Jay · 2025-12-03T19:17:56-0600

Servus said:
Is this you calling me out and calling me a cold blooded killer?

No.

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