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Do the Ten Commandments apply to Christians today?

The helpful website, gotquestions.org, has over 10,000 answers to frequently asked Bible questions, such as this one: "Do Christians have to obey the Old Testament law?"

After briefly explaining some of the laws that were given to God's people, (Ten Commandments, civil, ceremonial) their website states, "None of the Old Testament law is binding on Christians today."

Do you see any problem with their answer?

While it is true that God does not expect believers today to follow the Old Testament laws regarding the sacrificial system, food and clothing rules, etc., it is unwise in my view to claim that the Ten Commandments are not "binding on Christians today."

After all, examine the New Testament instructions given to Christians in the words of Jesus, and the writings of Paul, Peter and James. While Scripture makes it clear that Christians "are not under law, but under grace," (Romans 6:14) followers of Christ are presented with many rules for holy living in the New Testament. And these godly instructions line up beautifully with the Ten Commandments.

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And anyone can red HEBREWS 8:13 says that the LAW has WAXETH. OLD // GOROSKO is in the PRESENT TENSE

in the ACTIVE VOICE , in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR. in. the NOMINATIVE CASE , in. the NEUTER


READY // ONGYS. is and ADVERB

TO VANISH AWAY //. APHANISMOS. in. the GENITIVE CASE. in. the SINGULAR

And check. Acts 25:28 and isa 1:12. !!

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I hold a view similar to the Open View of God.

It was not a lie. It was a threat. And, indeed, if they had not repented, he would have destroyed them. (By the way, if he had not intended that they repent, why would he go to all that trouble to send Jonah in the precise way that he did?

That's a side issue. I'm not saying he's happy that most will perish.

No. I'm saying that it is a logically self-contradictory notion. (Nobody but God is entirely free). So why would he even consider it? It's not that he can't. It's that it is a non-thing.

The story of Nineveh and Jonah is not about salvation, by the way, so it is not the same sort of repentance. I can go to the fridge to get cream cheese for my bagel, go to the living room where my bagel is, and when I open the cream cheese, it has gray hair growing in it. I repent of my course of action. I go back to the kitchen for something else. The people of Nineveh were wicked, God demanded they change their ways or else. This is not repentance concerning their sinfulness. It is simple repentance of what they were doing. Would you claim they loved God after that repentance? It was still corrupt. But, at least, and for a time, they stopped what they were doing.

Define free choice. Uncaused choice? That makes no sense. Only God chooses, uncaused to do so. If you like, we can into the details of that. Can you show me how anything happens uncaused to do so? Only God is uncaused.

Does the capability of rejecting God's commands, and even God's offer of forgiveness and salvation, imply free will? Demonstrate to me that there is anything we do entirely spontaneously. For starters: Is there anything we do that we don't most want to do at that instant of decision?

Here and above, you consider "God's will" as only one thing. The implication is that God fully intended that we all be holy as he is holy; yet, somehow, only Christ Jesus has been able to do that.
Yes, that is true, if you replace "intended" with "desired".
The law —all of it God's will—was given to demonstrate our sin and our need for him
Not to tell us what He wants us to do?
, because we are unable to obey it perfectly, and so we deserve death.
But His law included the steps to take when the laws were disobeyed. How do you obey those parts if you never disobey the other parts? God's law helped people to avoid death.
We need his mercy. Even you don't believe that is all that his will is. He also wills for things to happen quite apart from his law.
Opposite His law? In other words, does God both will that all oeople keep His law and at the same time will that all people break His law? What lawmaker would do that? Maybe you should divide between God's intended will and God's contingent will, like Nineveh.
And those things are a little harder to know. So there are at least two things that are called/considered the will of God. The one thing is not the same as the other. If you think God never intended for Lucifer to rebel and Adam to sin, then why did he bother to make us?
I dont understand the question. Are you saying that we are undesired by God unless Lucifer rebelled and Adam sinned?
He made us to be the Bride of Christ, the Body of Christ, the Children of God, the Dwelling Place of God, his People with Him in a way the angels can never be. And THAT would not happen, but for Redemption.
Or perfect obedience in the first place. That makes the current scheme contingent.
So everyone has acted against his command (his revealed will), but none of us can ruin his plans (his hidden will).
Are our sins part of His hidden will? Every sin ever committed? If He couldn't make a sinless population from the start, He desires us to sin instead?
He doesn't fly by the seat of his pants to accomplish some general end.
Huh? Is someone suggesting that?
Read the prophets where repeatedly God used foreign kings to punish Israel —even refers to one of them as a tool— and then punishes them for doing so. They were not obeying.
Can't they both obey the command to punish Israel and also disobey commands for the treatment of the people? I don't see why it has to be a dichotomy.
They were only accomplishing what God had planned for them to do.
Plus some extra God didn't want them to do
Do you think that Satan will not have to pay for what he did to Job?
I don't know how God accounts for Satan's individual acts, but he didn't have to argue with God, did he? Are you saying that God wants Satan to kill, steal, and destroy? Why then is God any more moral than Satan?
Yet God put him up to it, fully intending that that beautiful book would be read by his people.
Was that the whole purpose of the episode? Or was God actually working to bring about a better understanding for Job, his wife, his friends?
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Lindsey Halligan, and the dog that ate the transcript.

Judges lash out at Justice Department for still listing Lindsey Halligan on court documents

One of those judges, Magistrate William Fitzpatrick, said at a criminal case hearing Tuesday that filing criminal charging papers “under Ms. Halligan’s name” at this time “is simply not acceptable,” according to a transcript obtained by CNN.

Both Fitzpatrick and another judge in the district, Michael Nachmanoff, told prosecutors this week they believed the ruling was clear that Halligan wasn’t the US attorney for all cases. They both noted, in separate hearings this week, according to court transcripts, that the Justice Department hadn’t appealed the ruling about Halligan, nor asked any court to pause it for a possible appeal.

The Justice Department’s reasoning for keeping Halligan’s name on criminal filings has been thin, from the perspective of prosecutors appearing in court.

“The Office of Legal Counsel told us to put the name as is as it has been presented on these indictments. That’s what we are going on at this point,” Roberts said in court on Tuesday, according to court records obtained by CNN.

Can the United States Government defraud itself?
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The rise of menace as a mainstream political tool

The rise in political menace is even affecting our 51st state.
Oh, the thread is open to other countries?

Germany: Dozens injured at Berlin pro-Palestinian protest


Some 1,200 Israelis — around 800 civilians — were killed and another 250 abducted in the attack on Israel by the Palestinian militant group Hamas on October 7, 2023. Israel's military response has seen over 53,000 Palestinians — mainly women and children — killed, according to health authorities in Hamas-led Gaza Strip, whose casualty counts do not differentiate between militants and civilians but are regarded as reliable by international organizations, and much of the territory laid to waste.​
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The rise of menace as a mainstream political tool

Clarington councillor charged with uttering threats

Ward 3 Coun. Corinna Traill facing 2 counts linked to alleged threats made about potential mayoral candidate​

A municipal councillor from Clarington, Ont., is facing criminal charges over alleged threats made in a voicemail involving a potential mayoral candidate, police say.

Coun. Corinna Traill has previously denied making any threats, saying the voicemail in question was generated using artificial intelligence.

In a social media post from September, former mayoral candidate and retired police officer Tom Dingwall alleged that in August, he received a voicemail from Traill telling him to stay out of next year's mayoral race to allow a friend of hers to "run unencumbered."

Dingwall went on to say that the message "made it clear" that if he did not, he would be killed and his wife would be sexually assaulted.
What does something in Canada have to do with American Politics?
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The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

Sportswear boss offers his £3billion firm to anyone who can prove Earth is flat

In a video posted on Columbia Sportswear’s YouTube channel on Tuesday (December 2), the boss, dressed in a casual navy quarter-zip and red and white checked shirt, challenged conspiracy theorists to prove him wrong.

Mr Boyle said: ‘This message is for flat Earthers. You guys claim there’s an end to the Earth?

‘Well just go snap a picture. Send it to us – and you get the assets to the company. All of it.

‘No paperwork, no lawyers, no catches.’

He is then interrupted by a man who appears to be a part of Columbia’s legal team, dressed in a black suit and blue patterned tie, who said: ‘Um, Tim, there is some paperwork.’

Is the Earth flat?​

The first flat Earthers can be traced back to ancient Mesopotamia who thought the earth was disc-shaped and under a dome.

But by about 300 BCE, educated scholars overwhelmingly accepted that the Earth is a sphere
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"Don't Give up the Ship"

My question (still unanswered) is, why are we blowing up those boats instead of interdicting them in the usual way, like the USCG is still doing successfully in the Pacific?

...because blowing up boats with very expensive ordance makes for a good TV show......yet they still have not realeased the full, unedited video to the public.

I would have have loved to be a fly on the wall when the Naval commander of the USS Ford received orders to leave the Mediterranean sea and head to......Venezuela. I'm sure there were a few choice words used.....
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Charlie Kirk Didn’t Shy Away From Who He Was. We Shouldn’t, Either

It's odd. The far left generally loves Jews in America, and hates them in Israel. The far right generally hates Jews in America, and loves them in Israel. Only a generalization; there are exceptions.

Thankfully I am a far center centrist. I can hate Jews in America and Israel.
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The rise of menace as a mainstream political tool

Clarington councillor charged with uttering threats

Ward 3 Coun. Corinna Traill facing 2 counts linked to alleged threats made about potential mayoral candidate​

A municipal councillor from Clarington, Ont., is facing criminal charges over alleged threats made in a voicemail involving a potential mayoral candidate, police say.

Coun. Corinna Traill has previously denied making any threats, saying the voicemail in question was generated using artificial intelligence.

In a social media post from September, former mayoral candidate and retired police officer Tom Dingwall alleged that in August, he received a voicemail from Traill telling him to stay out of next year's mayoral race to allow a friend of hers to "run unencumbered."

Dingwall went on to say that the message "made it clear" that if he did not, he would be killed and his wife would be sexually assaulted.
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Donald Trump Says US To Launch Land Action in Venezuela ‘Very Soon’

"Maduro is definitely a poor leader who also stole the election."

No, those are not good reasons for invading another country.

If those are good reasons by Republican standards, then someone should have invaded the US when Biden won.
To me those are better reasons than "stopping" drugs. But yes, it would be an act of goodwill, that is in America's interest. I don't think it will be an all out war, likely far less than the Falklands. Capture Maduro, if he won't leave peacefully and the war part is over? The nation building is another matter. I think we will soon see. I do think Trump should get Congressional approval though. Let him lay the case out and have a vote.
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WHEN WAS THE LAW TAKEN AWAY. AND GRACE BEGAN. ??

# 1 IN ////. EN. is a PREPOSTION

# 2. THAT HE SAITH //// LEGO. is. in. the PRESENT TENSE in. the ACTIVE VOICE

# 3 A. NEW. //// KAINOS. in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

# 4. COVENANT /// KAVEN

# 5. HE HATH MADE ///. PALAIOO. in. the PERFECT TENSE in. the INDICATIVE MOOD , and this MOOD , means you BETTER BELIEVE IT

# 6 THE /// HO is a DEFINITE ARTICLE in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in. the SINGULAR

# 7. FIRST ///. PROTOS. , in the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in the SINGULAR

# 8 OLD /// PALAOO , in. th PERFECT TENSE , in. the ACTIVE VOICE , in. the SINGULAR

# 9 NOW ///. DE. , is a CONJUNCATION

# 10 THAT WHICH DECAYETH. ,///. in the PRESENY TENSE , in the PASSIVE TENSE . in. the NOMINATIVE CASE. in. the SINGULAR in. the NUTER

# 11 AND ,/// KAI is a CONJUNCATION

# 12 WAXETH. OLD. , /// GORASHO. in. the PRESENT TENSE in. the ACTIVE VOICE means CHRIST is causing. it to be OLD is a PARTICIPL

in the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR and in. the NEUTER , meaning neither MALE or FEMALE

# 13. READY. , ///. ONGYS. is an ADVERB

# 14 TO VANISH AWAY , ///. APHANISMOS. in. the GENITIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#A. THIS MEAND THE OLD LAW OF MOSES has been sat aside FOREVER. !!

# B. And Rom 6:14 FOR YOU ARD NOT. //. OV s a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE and means you will NEVERRRRR. be under

the LAW but UNDER GRACE. ,

# C This means that SALVATION is by ROM 10:9 and 10

# And John 3:3 and verse 5. will not save anyone and John is speaking to Israel ONLY. !!

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UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot in midtown Manhattan, law enforcement official says

Speaking of Miranda rights

Video shows Luigi Mangione says he didn't want to talk. Police kept asking questions

Although Mangione signaled he wasn't interested in speaking, police continued asking questions, and he continued answering, video showed. Nearly 20 minutes passed before police informed him of his right to remain silent.
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Florida officials deny accusations of inhumane conditions at Alligator Alcatraz

Amnesty International finds immigrants at Florida facility were shackled and left outside in metal cage for up to a day

Detainees at the notorious Florida immigration jail known as “Alligator Alcatraz” were shackled inside a 2ft high metal cage and left outside without water for up to a day at a time, a shocking report published on Thursday by Amnesty International alleges.

The human rights group said migrants held at the state-run Everglades facility, and at Miami’s Krome immigration processing center operated by a private company on behalf of the Trump administration, continue to be exposed to “cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment” rising in some cases to torture.

The cage, known to detainees as “the box”, is used by guards for the arbitrary punishment of trivial or non-existent offenses, according to the report compiled from interviews with detainees and advocacy groups, and a site visit to Krome made by Amnesty workers in September.

[Commander Saito approves.]

It was ordered to close by a federal judge in August after a wave of criticism and a lawsuit by environmental groups. However, by October, the facility was operating again with hundreds of detainees after two Trump-appointed appellate court judges, one whose husband has close ties to DeSantis, blocked the closure ruling.

Amnesty International’s report details allegations at “Alligator Alcatraz” of “unsanitary conditions, including overflowing toilets with fecal matter seeping into where people are sleeping, limited access to showers, exposure to insects without protective measures, lights on 24 hours a day, poor quality food and water, and lack of privacy”.

“It operates outside federal oversight, without the basic tracking systems used in ICE facilities,” the report said

Molly Best, press secretary to Florida’s Republican governor, Ron DeSantis, told the Guardian the Amnesty report was “nothing more than a politically motivated attack”.
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Donald Trump Says US To Launch Land Action in Venezuela ‘Very Soon’

A land war in Venezuela is not about drugs. They're not producing any of the components in Venezuela, and we know it. The most that's happening is some transshipment at coastal facilities...not something you launch a land war to prevent.

A land war is about regime change and controlling the oil-power of Venezuela toward the US and away from BRICS.

See post #78. I don't care what the excuse is. The answer is a big fat no from me.
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B flat B♭

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@Jerry N. said, "they are not upside down, they are different stars." You replied, "they are not different stars," post 2,205.
The picture that he posted, shows that they are.

Jerry N was right.
We cannot see the same stars in the north as in the south & visa verse due to the vastness of the universe.

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Why We See Different Stars - Utter Nonsence
  • Earth's Curvature: Because the Earth is a sphere, an observer's horizon blocks from view the stars that are in the other hemisphere's sky. If you are far in the north, the southern part of the celestial sphere is below your horizon, and vice versa.
This is Utter Nonsense.
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Trump to pardon Ex-Honduras President Guilty of Drug Trafficking and conspiring to import cocaine into the United States

Keep in mind both Orlando Hernández and his brother Tony Hernández were indicted by the Trump admin DOJ in 2019.
Tony was sentenced to life by the Trump admin DOJ.
Not sure why no one in the Hernández family didn't write a "Kim Jong Un flowery letter" to Trump as they did with Orlando
But it's sad that tapping into Trump narcissistic traits is enough to get a El Chapo affiliated drug running to the US convict pardoned.
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