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Hentenza · 2025-11-07T19:24:54-0600

HARK! said:
I cover that here.

Post it here so we can discuss.

HARK! said:
What do you think John meant by this one?:

(CLV) 1Jn 3:6
Everyone who is remaining in Him is not sinning. Everyone who is sinning sees Him not, neither knows Him.

Those who sin continually are not of God. However, all still sin and convicted by the Holy Spirit. The thing is that today all we have to do is repent if our sin and He is faithful and forgive our sin.

“If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous, so that He will forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.”
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1 John 1:8-10 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous, so that He will forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all | New American Standard Bible - NAS

If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous, so that He will forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all

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Can those under the law do this? Could the biblical Jews and even today’s Jews who are still under the law do this?

BPPLEE · 2025-11-07T19:23:35-0600

GoldenBoy89 said:
Generally, no.

ICE is a special case. They were around before this administration gave them this assignment and have been doing their jobs just fine. There is a marked difference in their entire approach to immigration enforcement now where it seems maximum cruelty is the whole point, normal law enforcement a second concern.

I saw on this forum and on X that ICE raided a daycare and arrested a teacher in front of the children.
It turns out they were conducting a targeted traffic stop and the woman ran then ran into the daycare and tried to barricade herself inside.
I've seen video clips that allege gross civil rights violations, then when you watch the unedited video what is alleged is not what happened at all.
I heard all about how ICE raided an apartment building and harassed the tenants.
It turns out they only raided the apartments where people were squatting and not paying rent.
Every allegation against them is believed and reported as fact.
I'm sure there are things going on that shouldn't be. I'm sure some of the allegations are true.
The people responsible should be held accountable.
But much of what I've seen are false allegations and conveniently edited videos

HARK! · 2025-11-07T19:21:27-0600

Hentenza said:
I don’t obey the Torah.

How can you say that you don't reject Yah's direction; but you don't obey it either?

HARK! · 2025-11-07T19:18:51-0600

Hentenza said:
This is not biblical

It's in my Bible.

Hentenza · 2025-11-07T19:18:05-0600

HARK! said:
So you obey the Torah that hangs on the Shema?

I don’t obey the Torah. Im not Jewish. I do like the Shema as quite inspirational.

Bradskii · 2025-11-07T19:17:39-0600

GoldenBoy89 said:
There really, REALLY needs to be an angry reaction here.

Come the mid terms there will be.

Hentenza · 2025-11-07T19:16:30-0600

Studyman said:
You are indeed taking Paul out of context.

Nope.

Studyman said:
Rom. 8: 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

God's Law was never intended to take away sin. That was never its intent. It was given by God to His People to show them what righteousness is and what sin is. M

But it is no longer needed. The Spirit now convicts the believer.

Studyman said:
This is why the Jesus "of the Bible" said:

31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?

32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.

33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and "his righteousness"; and all these things shall be added unto you.

According to Paul's teaching, When a person "Yields themselves" servants to obey God, that is walking in the Spirit, so that the Righteousness of the Law might be fulfilled in those who "walk after the Spirit".

4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Those who reject God's Laws or Judgments, or judges them as "not righteousness", as Eve did, they are "walking after the flesh".

Paul teaches that Before repentance, "Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience", he was "Dead in Trespasses and Sins".

There was no Law that could take away this death. But for those who believe (Have Faith), that if they follow Paul's instructions for both Jews and Gentile, "that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance", that Jesus is Faithful to take away their sins.

The Pharisees, just like the disobedience Israelites in Isaiah 1, full well rejected the Commandments of God that they might live by and promote the traditions and commandments of men. Yet every week they would gather together unto God and bringing the Blood of innocent beings, as per the Law, to "Justify their wicked Flesh".

But as the Spirit of Christ told them through Isaiah, and the same Spirit of Christ told them through Paul, "by the works of the Law is no Flesh justified".

What God requires instead, He tells men if they would only believe Him.

Is. 1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats. 12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?

What does God Want?

16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil; 17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow. 18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. 19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:

20 But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

Paul's teaching is the same.

Eph. 4: 22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;

23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;

24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God "is created in righteousness and true holiness."

Same Christ, Same circumstance, Same Gospel. As it is written: "Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

Mockingbird0 · 2025-11-07T19:16:06-0600

Yeshua HaDerekh said:
Yeshua died on Pesakh, the 14th of Nisan. Unleavened starts on the 15th. Your article said "The reason for this is that the crucifixion of our Lord occurred during the feast of the Unleavened Bread, which was observed for seven days after Passover." It also wrongly states "Here Passover and the associated feast of Unleavened Bread are described. These roughly correspond to our Holy Thursday and Good Friday (the 14th and 15th days of the month, if the synoptic gospel narrative has any value) and the week of Easter."

According to the Gospel of John Jesus was crucified on the 14th of Nisan and rose on the 16th. According to the synoptic Gospels Jesus was crucified on the 15th of Nisan and rose on the 17th. It was the Sunday of Unleavened Bread either way. Though John has theological reasons for setting the crucifixion on the 14th--it ties in with his motif of Jesus as the Lamb of God--I think John's date is historically more likely.

HARK! · 2025-11-07T19:16:06-0600

Hentenza said:
All of the law hangs on Jesus two love commandments so no one here is rejecting anything. Your argument is a Strawman.

So you obey the Torah that hangs on the Shema?

Multifavs · 2025-11-07T19:15:41-0600

DreamyLaLa said:
I decided to close down my old Etsy store, Le Ange Rose Shoppe. My sister and I opened another new Etsy shop, though, called Vintage Shojo Princess. I will sell my new story there as well as related merch. The name comes from our love of the retro art styles of shojo (girls') manga/anime that heavily influence our own art styles. The name also comes from my love of princesses!

Here's a pic of the Etsy shop banner! My sister designed it and drew the artwork of the magical girl here!
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Feel free to have a look at my new shop! Vintage Shojo Princess

Sorry to hear about your old shop, but your new shop sounds exciting! I love the pretty, sparkly banner your sister made! :3

fide · 2025-11-07T19:14:30-0600

Lady Bug said:
I personally say no, there is not. I don't like it when someone consistently discusses other people, even if the information seems neutral. I'm not interested in hearing someone yap about Mr and Mrs Churchgoer going on a trip across another continent. It kind of looks like they're spoiled rich folks. Maybe that's me.

"Maybe that's me"? It is good that that thought came to you, dear Lady. This whole thread was troubling to read, because a great opportunity for obedience to the Lord was missed, concerning forgiveness. That is so very important for us all, to be always forgiving toward others - even overt enemies - because none of us are ready to meet the Lord, and we are told to ask, to plead to be forgiven by our Lord "as we forgive those who trespass against us." I say none of us are ready, now, to stand before Him and how do I know this? Because we are still here. God is not finished with us, not yet. We are all called to holiness. We can praise Him for His patience, His mercy, His enduring Love, and may we all grow in more than just tolerance, but godly mercy.

Daniel Marsh · 2025-11-07T19:14:17-0600

I wonder if such theories lack critical thinking?

Hentenza · 2025-11-07T19:13:07-0600

Studyman said:
You are indeed taking Paul out of context.

Nope.

Studyman said:
Rom. 8: 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

God's Law was never intended to take away sin. That was never its intent. It was given by God to His People to show them what righteousness is and what sin is. M

But it is no longer needed. The Spirit now convicts the believer.

Studyman said:
This is why the Jesus "of the Bible" said:

31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?

32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.

33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and "his righteousness"; and all these things shall be added unto you.

According to Paul's teaching, When a person "Yields themselves" servants to obey God, that is walking in the Spirit, so that the Righteousness of the Law might be fulfilled in those who "walk after the Spirit".

4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Those who reject God's Laws or Judgments, or judges them as "not righteousness", as Eve did, they are "walking after the flesh".

This is not biblical. All of the law hangs on Jesus two love commandments so no one here is rejecting anything. Your argument is a Strawman.

Studyman said:
Paul teaches that Before repentance, "Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience", he was "Dead in Trespasses and Sins".

There was no Law that could take away this death. But for those who believe (Have Faith), that if they follow Paul's instructions for both Jews and Gentile, "that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance", that Jesus is Faithful to take away their sins.

The Pharisees, just like the disobedience Israelites in Isaiah 1, full well rejected the Commandments of God that they might live by and promote the traditions and commandments of men. Yet every week they would gather together unto God and bringing the Blood of innocent beings, as per the Law, to "Justify their wicked Flesh".

But as the Spirit of Christ told them through Isaiah, and the same Spirit of Christ told them through Paul, "by the works of the Law is no Flesh justified".

What God requires instead, He tells men if they would only believe Him.

Is. 1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats. 12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?

What does God Want?

16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil; 17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow. 18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. 19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:

20 But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

Paul's teaching is the same.

Eph. 4: 22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;

23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;

24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God "is created in righteousness and true holiness."

Same Christ, Same circumstance, Same Gospel. As it is written: "Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

This is quite convoluted to the point that I am not sure what you are arguing. Please clarify.

Mockingbird0 · 2025-11-07T19:09:59-0600

JimR-OCDS said:
I know that there is discussion between the Vatican and the Orthodox religions to come up with celebrating Easter
on the same date. An Orthodox person I message with on FB agrees with me that whatever day they come up
with, it should be synced with the Jewish Passover.

The traditional paschalion synchronizes Easter with Passover according to the Christian calculation of Passover. In 2025, the Gregorian lunar month of Nisan began on March 31 (that is, at sunset on March 30). Its 14th day (Passover) was Sunday, April 13. Easter was the following Sunday, April 20.

However if by saying "it should be synced the the Jewish Passover" he means that it should be synchronized with the first day of Unleavened Bread according to the present-day Rabbinic Jewish calendar, I respond that there are reasons not to do this. The first-century Jewish writer Josephus wrote that in Herodian times, the Passover sacrifices were offered at the first full moon on or after the Spring equinox (Antiquities 3.248/3.10.5). The modern-day Rabbinic Jewish calendar, due to a slight solar drift in its calculation, in 3 years out of every 19 places the Feast of Unleavened Bread at the second full moon after the equinox. This happens in the 3rd, 11th and 14th years of the Gregorian 19-year cycle. The last time this happened was in the year 2024, the 11th year of the cycle. The next time it will happen is the year 2027. the 14th year of the cycle. The Gregorian paschalion tries, and for the most part succeeds, to celebrate Easter at the time of the first full moon on or after the equinox, according to the rule described by Josephus. I see no reason to follow the present-day Rabbinic Jewish calendar in its error of celebrating sometimes at the second full moon after the equinox.

Daniel Marsh · 2025-11-07T19:09:56-0600

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chess

Carl Emerson · 2025-11-07T19:01:55-0600

SabbathBlessings said:
It doesn't say we enter His Sabbath rest, it says His rest.

Hebrews 4:8-10

8 For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that.

9 Consequently, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God.

10 For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His.

HARK! · 2025-11-07T19:01:11-0600

Hentenza said:
What to do you think Paul meant by these verses?

I cover that here.

What do you think John meant by this one?:

(CLV) 1Jn 3:6
Everyone who is remaining in Him is not sinning. Everyone who is sinning sees Him not, neither knows Him.

Daniel Marsh · 2025-11-07T19:00:53-0600

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8 For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that. ​

9 Consequently, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. ​

10 For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His.​

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Hebrews 4:8-10

8 For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that.

9 Consequently, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God.

10 For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His.