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Aryeh Jay · 2025-12-03T20:15:50-0600

Servus said:
Well since I'm the only one here who just recently told you I'm in my 60s maybe you can see how I might come to that conclusion. What did you actually mean?

Of course. I do see where you could think that. I read another post from a different poster and was going to extend my invitation to join the Navy and come to the Caribbean. Before I did that I thought to check and see if they could join and not exceed the age limits. They were also above 60. Both of you are enthusiastic about the activity down here.
I am currently 54 and in the Navy. My job normally entails things that are guaranteed to cause death, preferably just the enemy but stuff happens. I have found in getting older things that wouldn't normally bother me have started to really get under my skin. I am concerned that I could become too enthusiastic about my job as I get older. Thus, I am concerned about becoming a person too eager to spill blood and not care about the consequences of doing so.

samaus123456789 · 2025-12-03T20:13:46-0600

Douggg said:
I agree that we Christians are inheritors to the kingdom of God.

But we have no become Jews, nor Israel, by virtual of believing in Jesus.

based on the bible yes we have. romans 2 28 29, galatians 6 16, 3 29, romans 9 8. there is no other way to covenant with the God of abraham other than belief in jesus. cutting the penis wont do it anymore nor will following the letter of the law of moses, physical ancestry never did do it in the written torah although the leaven of the pharisees in the nt in some cases seem to be saying they thought physical ancestry did it. the synagogue of satan are not jews or israel (based on the bible). they have non biblical definitions of jew israel abraham covenant etc- but they are lying- they are the synagogue of satan (according to jesus).

Douggg · 2025-12-03T20:10:43-0600

samaus123456789 said:
no that is wrong. he was saying the kingdom of heaven would go out to anyone whether circumcized or not via faith in Jesus which happened with his death burial reserrection then ascension then pentecost then God destroys the OT kingdom and kills the people that killed Jesus 70 ad.
only christians are jews israel etc now not the synagogue of satan. but i am mainly interested in what this other person was saying about the words nations/gentiles.

I agree that we Christians are inheritors to the kingdom of God.

But we have not become Jews, nor Israel, by virtual of believing in Jesus.

concretecamper · 2025-12-03T20:10:31-0600

Hentenza said:
lol I’m not surprised that you would answer yes.

My church is His Church and so are all of the churches where 2 or 3 are congregated in His name. Jesus said that.

Ok but how does that prove that your church’s Traditions (big T) outside of scripture are infallible? Are the ECFs infallible? Are your popes throughout history infallible?

I'll answer your question once you admit the OP posted a theory that is not taught in Scripture, the post you agreed with. Well, we are all waiting.

samaus123456789 · 2025-12-03T20:10:20-0600

its a mark on the right hand or forehead. it is the hexagram.

jacks · 2025-12-03T20:10:09-0600

It should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law! I'm tired of racoons thinking they can just do whatever they please. What has happened to our society?!

wing2000 · 2025-12-03T20:09:58-0600

Vambram said:
He came over here in 2021 and was granted asylum. His legal stay ended in September 2025 and thus remained in the USA illegally.

Vambram said:
https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/northeast/dc-national-guard-shooting-suspect/

His permission to be in the USA expired in September. Therefore, he was here now illegally.

wing2000 said:
....so, the suspect:

-supported American objectives in Afghanistan as part of an Afghan military unit working the CIA
-was granted legal entry into the US based on his prior support of American objectives in Afghanistan
-was granted in aslyum earlier this year.

What triggered him to turn to violence and intentionally target Guardsmen on duty two blocks from the White House?

Vabram: You made this same claim on page 2 - 6 days ago. And was corrected.

Yet here you are again, repeating wrong information. What gives?

samaus123456789 · 2025-12-03T20:07:52-0600

Guojing said:
You can also use common sense to understand that meaning of Matthew 21:43 cannot be to gentiles.

Which is, if you recall the final question the 11 asked Christ, just before he ascended to heaven, which is found in Acts 1:6,

do you notice Christ did not reply with

"Why do you ask such a stupid question about the kingdom being restored to Israel, when I already told you it will be given to gentiles in Matthew 21:43?"

which would have been the case, if your understanding about Matthew 21:43 was correct instead.

I have a thread on the kingdom of Israel being restored on Pentecost. Which is what Acts was about Matthew 21:43 you think he is saying the kingdom of God will be taken from you Israelites, and given to Israelites? In the OT someone had to cut their penis to join the Abrahamic Mosaic religion. Anyone could join, and become a Jew or Israel. Same in the NT except it is spiritual circumcision then someone can become a Jew or Israel via belief in Jesus Christ. Mathew 21 parable of the wicked vineyard tenants (it is in Isaiah as well) is about the Israelites being put in charge of the OT religion, and they killed the righteous ones amongst them telling them to turn back to the God of Abraham, and stop sinning then they killed the heir to the kingdom Jesus so God was going to kill them (70 AD), and take the kingdom from them which happened with Jesus death burial resurrection saved by grace through faith not via the works of the law of Moses so yes Jesus is saying the kingdom will be taken from you people in charge of the OT temple based covenant and given to non Israelite Greco Roman pagans via belief in Jesus. It is a great spot to render the word gentile but not english bibles do.

Akita Suggagaki · 2025-12-03T20:07:26-0600

Always in His Presence said:
If he were forty or fifty times more incompetent he could be a presidential candidate for the other party.

Not relevant to OP

Always in His Presence said:
Do insults prove points?

It is not about points. It is about the integrity of our nation.

comana · 2025-12-03T20:06:15-0600

Vambram said:
He came over here in 2021 and was granted asylum. His legal stay ended in September 2025 and thus remained in the USA illegally.

He is here legally with request for green card pending.

D.C. National Guard shooting suspect identified as Afghan national who had worked with CIA. Here's what we know.

A 29-year-old Afghan national named Rahmanullah Lakanwal has been identified as the suspected shooter in the ambush that killed one National Guard member and wounded another in D.C., officials say.

www.cbsnews.com

“A Department of Homeland Security official told CBS News the suspect was paroled into the U.S. on humanitarian grounds back in 2021. That was the main legal mechanism the Biden administration used to welcome tens of thousands of Afghan evacuees after the Taliban takeover in August 2021.
Lakanwal later applied for asylum with U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services in 2024 and his application was granted in 2025, the DHS official said. But his request for a green card, which is tied to the asylum grant, is pending.”

Hentenza · 2025-12-03T20:03:30-0600

concretecamper said:
Yes,

lol I’m not surprised that you would answer yes.

concretecamper said:
Christ promised that the Holy Spirit would be with His Church.

My church is His Church and so are all of the churches where 2 or 3 are congregated in His name. Jesus said that.

concretecamper said:
Christ also said that he who hears you hear Me, and that he who rejects you rejects Me and the One who sent Me.

Ok but how does that prove that your church’s Traditions (big T) outside of scripture are infallible? Are the ECFs infallible? Are your popes throughout history infallible?

jacks · 2025-12-03T20:03:03-0600

I still have trouble believing we have reached a point in our society, where one can just declare a gender and the rest of the world is supposed to go along with it.

jacks · 2025-12-03T20:01:09-0600

Some instructors aren't interested in teaching.
They just want their opinions parroted back to them.

samaus123456789 · 2025-12-03T20:01:04-0600

Douggg said:
Hi samaus,

kjv
Matthew 21:42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

In context, Jesus was speaking to the scribes, chief priests, and Pharisees at the time. Jesus referred to the scriptures in verse 42, about their rejection of him (Jesus). So the kingdom of God was taken from because they produced no spiritual fruit. They did not promote the gospel of salvation in Christ Jesus.

Another nation of Jews, Israel in the end times, will produce the fruit, when they turn to the gospel of salvation and Jesus in the middle of the 7 year 70th week of Daniel 9:27.

Here us the text of their turning to gospel of salvation and Jesus...

Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Currently, the vast majority of Jews reject Jesus and the gospel of salvation. But that is going to change after they go through a bad experience of thinking the Antichrist is their King of Israel messiah (for the most part of the first half of the 7 years).

no that is wrong. he was saying the kingdom of heaven would go out to anyone whether circumcized or not via faith in Jesus which happened with his death burial reserrection then ascension then pentecost then God destroys the OT kingdom and kills the people that killed Jesus 70 ad.
only christians are jews israel etc now not the synagogue of satan. but i am mainly interested in what this other person was saying about the words nations/gentiles.

Douggg · 2025-12-03T19:57:56-0600

samaus123456789 said:
◄ Matthew 21:43 ►

“Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.

That is Jesus talking to the Israelites saying he will give the kingdom of God to non Israelite peoples.

Hi samaus,

kjv
Matthew 21:42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

In context, Jesus was speaking to the scribes, chief priests, and Pharisees at the time. Jesus referred to the scriptures in verse 42, about their rejection of him (Jesus). So the kingdom of God was taken from them because they produced no spiritual fruit. They did not promote the gospel of salvation in Christ Jesus.

Another nation of Jews, Israel in the end times, will produce the fruit, when they turn to the gospel of salvation and Jesus in the middle of the 7 year 70th week of Daniel 9:27.

Here is the text of their turning to gospel of salvation and Jesus...

Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Currently, the vast majority of Jews reject Jesus and the gospel of salvation. But that is going to change after they go through a bad experience of thinking the Antichrist is their King of Israel messiah (for the most part of the first half of the 7 years).
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btw the loud voice in heaven in Revelation 12:10 - that is going to be coming from us, resurrected/raptured Christians.

JosephZ · 2025-12-03T19:57:54-0600

Vambram said:
He came over here in 2021 and was granted asylum.

He didn't apply for asylum until December 2024, and it was granted in April of this year.

Vambram said:
His legal stay ended in September 2025 and thus remained in the USA illegally.

He has been in the country legally from the time he arrived in 2021 until now. At no time was he in the country illegally.

Hentenza · 2025-12-03T19:57:28-0600

concretecamper said:
That's not the question.

That was my question.

concretecamper said:
The OP is putting for a theory that is not taught in Scripture.

What exactly is the OP’s theory that is not in scripture?

concretecamper said:
You guys are sooooo funny.

Thanks?

concretecamper said:
His Church teaches that Scripture is part of Tradition. Scripture is not all of Tradition.

Hence my question. See, we did a full circle which is not uncommon for you.

concretecamper · 2025-12-03T19:56:59-0600

Hentenza said:
Is Catholic Tradition (big T) outside of scripture infallible?

Yes, Christ promised that the Holy Spirit would be with His Church. Christ also said that he who hears you hear Me, and that he who rejects you rejects Me and the One who sent Me.

samaus123456789 · 2025-12-03T19:56:06-0600

Guojing said:
Are you aware that, in scripture, the singular nation only refers to the nation of Israel?

And that, whenever gentile nations are referred to, it is always nations in the plural?

you are saying goy ethnos is only ever used when referring to israel and never goyim or ethne?
and always the opposite for non israelite nations?

jacks · 2025-12-03T19:55:37-0600

My guess is Glock 9mm and rifle 223 looking at the size of the cleaning equipment.

Jipsah · 2025-12-03T19:54:59-0600

Der Alte said:
God does not "torture." God punishes the disobedient.

Forever, right? That's pretty merciless, innit?

concretecamper · 2025-12-03T19:53:45-0600

Hentenza said:
Is Catholic Tradition (big T) outside of scripture infallible?

That's not the question. The OP is putting for a theory that is not taught in Scripture. You guys are sooooo funny.

His Church teaches that Scripture is part of Tradition. Scripture is not all of Tradition. But you guys don't believe what His Church teaches.

Jipsah · 2025-12-03T19:51:31-0600

Der Alte said:
I prefer the word that Jesus used i.e. "eternal punishment." Which is how it reads in the Eastern Greek Orthodox N.T.

Dead, as in 'God Never knew you", is pretty much eternal.don'tcha think?

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