Always in His Presence said:

No - no please don't stop! It helps the Republican Party in numerous ways - please continue. Maybe add in 34 convictions and sex accusations - that's been having great results!

CBO: Democrats Covered Up Widespread Fraud and Abuse in Federal Health Programs​

Recent analysis by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) confirms that Democrats conducted a years-long, massive cover-up to defraud American taxpayers in order to subsidize fraud, waste, and abuse in federal health programs, including using loopholes to provide free health care to illegal immigrants. Republicans put an end to these generous unjustified subsidies and instead lowered premiums for those properly enrolled in the program and provided a massive tax cut to the middle class in The One, Big, Beautiful Bill, signed into law on July 4th.​

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Lawmakers requested CBO provide critical context behind their topline coverage estimates resulting from the health reforms in The One, Big, Beautiful Bill. CBO’s latest analysis makes clear that The One, Big, Beautiful Bill is not taking coverage away from hardworking Americans but is ending billions in subsidies for illegal immigrants, cracking down on fraud, and restoring integrity to health care programs. CBO estimates that the policies in the new law dealing with health insurance marketplace premium tax credit eligibility would reduce those who should not be getting taxpayer subsidies by 2.1 million in 2034.​

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Additionally, CBO confirms Republicans’ concerns with massive improper enrollment in Obamacare. The agency not only finds that Democrat policies have led to at least 2.3 million fraudulent enrollees in Obamacare, but also that common sense Republican program integrity reforms in The One, Big, Beautiful Bill will lower premiums for those truly eligible for the program while putting an end to these abuses.​

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Why do the Democrats want 1.2 trillion in fraud re established? Ever wonder about that.

CBO: Democrats Covered Up Widespread Fraud and Abuse in Federal Health Programs - Ways and Means
I'm not a dude - I don't work on a ranch.

White House says it will use tariff money to fund nutrition program amid shutdown​

Why don't the Democrats care as much?

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That report was good for a chuckle. Those here, like the Ukrainians, the South Africans, the Cubans, the Haitians who are here on temporary legal status, are not "illegal immigrants."

Apple Sky said:

Nope, it's proof they weren't even there on the moon.

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If NASA was faking everything, they would have told the public what they expected to hear. You debunk your own claims.

fli said:

Romans 8: 10 by God's word if the Spirit of Jesus is in us we are dead physically. We cannot sin because dead men are not under the law.



Are you are saying that we have to do works of the law to be righteous?

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The way that someone attains a character trait is a different issue than what it means to have a character trait. The one and only way to attain a character trait is through faith but what it means to have a character trait is to be a doer of the works that embody that trait. For example, the only way for someone to become courageous is by faith apart from being required to have first done enough courageous works in order to earn it as the result, but it would be contradictory for someone to become courageous apart from becoming a doer of courageous works and the same is true for righteousness and every other character trait. This is again why the faith by which we are declared righteous apart from works also upholds our need to be a doer of righteous works in obedience to God's law (Romans 3:28-31).

fli said:

Romans 10:1 Brethren, my heart's desire and my prayer to God for them is for their salvation. 2 For I testify about them that they have a zeal for God, but not in accordance with knowledge. 3 For not knowing about God's righteousness and seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. NASU

Anyone, who says that Christians have obey the law to be righteous, does not believe in Jesus. In verse 3 those who are ignorant of God's righteousness seek to establish their own righteousness, by doing the law. If anyone does not believe that Jesus makes them righteous, they think that they must do the law. God's righteousness is through faith not works. It seems to me that you might believe that James, the brother of Jesus, said one must have works to have a saving faith.

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In Exodus 33:13, Moses wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him to walk in His way that He and Israel might know Him, and in Matthew 7:23, Jesus said that he would tell those who are workers of lawlessness to depart from because he never knew them, so the goal of the law is to graciously teach us how to know God and Jesus, which is His gift of eternal life (John 17:3).

In Romans 9:30-10:4, they had a zeal for God, but it was not based on knowing Him, so they failed to attain righteousness because they misunderstood the goal of the law by pursuing it as though righteousness were earned as the result of their works in order to establish their own instead of pursuing it as through righteousness were by faith in Christ, for knowing Christ is the goal of the law for righteousness for everyone who has faith. We do not earn our righteousness as the result of our obedience to God's law, but rather the way that Jesus makes us righteous is by graciously teaching us to be a doer of righteous works in obedience to God's law through faith.

fli said:

Since the apostle James, brother of Jesus, used Abraham to prove a point about salvation in the NT, I will use an OT saint, David, to prove another point about salvation. Since both Abraham and David are listed in Hebrews 11 as having saving faith, I know they both are sons of God. Because of that I know in Romans chapter 8, where Paul describes what true believers do to be in the Spirit, they have reached being sons in verse 14.

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While it is true that Abraham believed God, so he was declared righteous, it is also true that Abraham believes God, so he was a doer of righteous works (Genesis 18:19). Similarly, it is also true that Abraham believed God, so he obeyed His command to offer Isaac (Hebrews 11:17), so the same faith by which he was declared righteous was also embodied by being an obeyer of God, but he did not earn his righteousness as the result of his obedience (Romans 4:1-5).

fli said:

First David's sins read 2Samuel 12: 7- 15.

Every Christian should know what King David did. He committed adultery with Bathsheba and had Uriah, her husband, killed to cover his crime. Under OT laws He committed 3 sins that could not be forgiven. David committed both sins, adultery and murder, in a high handed way, Numbers 15:30, putting them both as the worst sins under the OT law. There was no sacrifice for what David did but death to both her and him. David was unrepentant for more than 9 months.

Romans 8:1 Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. 3 For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, 7 because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, 8 and those who are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. 10 If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you. 12 So then, brethren, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh — 13 for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14 For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. 15 For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, "Abba! Father!" 16 The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God, 17 and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him. NASU


If a Christian committed the sins in the NT that David committed the scriptures above describe what would happen to him. Again, since both Abraham, used by James, and David are saints, listed in Hebrews 11, we know they both had passed from death to life. That means they both had proven records of hearing and obeying God's word, they both had spiritual minds. In Romans above it means verse 6 applied to them. With spiritual minds they responded by obeying Jesus' directions. They both were sons of God. John 10: 1-6 Once a Christian proves they have a spiritual mind and follow Jesus' voice they prove they are one of His sheep. Therefore, our NT David had passed through Romans above down to verse 17.

Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness, 6 just as David also speaks of the blessing on the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works: 7 "BLESSED ARE THOSE WHOSE LAWLESS DEEDS HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN, AND WHOSE SINS HAVE BEEN COVERED. 8 "BLESSED IS THE MAN WHOSE SIN THE LORD WILL NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT." NASU

(First in the above, the one who does not work means, if one is doing work for righteousness, they do not have faith. Which means they do not have righteousness through faith)

Because our NT David was in Jesus and Jesus was in Him, God did not impute any sin to David all the time he was unrepentant. God treated him as a disobedient child. If our David had not repented, meaning David was not obeying Jesus' voice, God would have quit fulfilling the law of sin and death for David. God would have put David to sleep, killed him physically.


1 Corinthians 3:10 According to the grace of God which was given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building on it. But each man must be careful how he builds on it. 11 For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any man builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each man's work will become evident; for the day will show it because it is to be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each man's work. 14 If any man's work which he has built on it remains, he will receive a reward. 15 If any man's work is burned up, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire. NASU

Our David, for the year he was unrepentant he had built with wood. If he did not repent God would have put him to sleep. Our David would have entered heaven smelling of smoke. Our David was not known as an adulterer or a murderer when he arrived in heaven as God never imputed those sins to him.

The only commandments believers in Jesus have to obey for salvation are:

1 John 3:21 Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence before God; 22 and whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do the things that are pleasing in His sight. 23 This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us. 24 The one who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. We know by this that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. NASU

The commandments we are to keep for salvation are in verse 23. If we keep those commandments we abide in Jesus and He in us.

1 John 3:4 Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. 5 And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin. 6 Whoever abides in Him does not sin (see 1John 3: 24 above). Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him. NKJV

Anyone who abides in Jesus does not sin. They may be disobedient children, but God does not impute sin to disobedient children. (Romans 8: 10) We cannot commit lawlessness because, by God's word He, considers our flesh dead and the law does not apply to dead men.

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In 1 John 2:6, those who abide in Christ are obligated to walk in the same way that he walked, so verses that refer to those who abide in Christ are only refers to those who are following his example of walking in obedience to God's law. In Romans 8:4-7, Paul contrasted those who walk in the Spirit with those who have minds set on the flesh who are enemies of God who refuse to submit to God's law. Nowhere did God fulfill the law of sin and death, but rather He is without sin.

We embody what we believe to be true about God through our works, such as with James 2:18 saying that he would show his faith through his works, so the way to believe in Jesus is by being a doer of the same works as James. In other words, the way to believe in God is by embodying His likeness through being a doer of His character traits. For example, by being a doer of good works in obedience to God's law we are embodying His goodness, which is why our good works bring glory to Him (Matthew 5:16), and by embodying God's goodness we are also expressing the belief that God is good. Likewise, the way to believe that God is a doer of justice is by embodying His likeness through being a doer of justice, the way to believe that God is compassionate is by being compassionate, the way to believe that God is holy is by being a doer of His instructions for how to be holy as He is holy, and so forth. This is exactly the same as the way to believe in the Son, who is the radiance of God's glory and the exact likeness of His character (Hebrews 1:3), which he embodied through his works by setting a sinless example for us to follow of how to walk in obedience to God's law. This is also why the Bible repeatedly connects our obedience to God with our belief in Him, such as with Revelation 14:12 where those who kept faith in Jesus are the same as those who kept God's commandments. So believing in the God's Word made flesh does not refer to something that is an alternative to following His example of embodying God's Word.

Servus said:

What difference does it make what I can do? I'm just as powerless in the matter as you are.

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Title 10 of the U.S. Code grants the President authority over the National Guard and provides specific powers for their deployment, particularly within the United States during domestic emergencies established by the Constitution.

We are discussing what constitutes an emergency.

Servus said:

It's a matter of opinion for everyone not in authority to make that decision.

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Right, and opinions are, again, irrelevant. Because this is a legal question.

Saying "I agree with Miller on this" (or "I disagree with Miller") is meaningless to the question of whether or not what Trump is doing is legal.

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Oh so what he's describing is null and void if he doesn't use the magic word.

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It's null and void if he can't produce the evidence to back up it up...whatever words he uses. And apparently, you can't either.

Oh and for spiritual warfare, check John Ramirez, he has just come out with a book about how to do spiritual warfare, how evil gets in, his tactics and how to fight he has a ministry so easy to find or just amazon

1) if zero people are arriving illegally then the (false) argument that dems want to give free Healthcare to undocumented is moot.

2) Americans cant even get free health care. Why would people believe the undocumented would?

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Hans Blaster said:

Never did quite figure out what ""transcendent" was ... Why should I care? ...

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Thank you for those admissions. I think they give a good summary of your posts in this thread. Using a kind of "Jeffrey Dahmer Defense":


Perhaps you could at least assist your struggling atheist interlocutor with a definition of the "good rape"? He been trying unsuccessfully to do so since 2021.

It can be evil attacks on your mind. Through deception and manipulation. Giving your thoughts or sensations or feelings. Check them against the Word. we ARE in spiritual warfare. you need to pray, fast and live holy. That is how you win. And have prayers and healing. Seek out a ministry that can help. If nothing else, the catholic church helps others too that are going through such things and does a careful examination, physically, mentally AND spiritually. This is what you must do. Rule everything out. Either a born again christian or the catholic church. As they know what to do with this. Go through the church directory to get referred, or local priest. (know that not everyone believes in this so be persistent that goes for other churches by the way) They will do an examination in all directions. And knows how to deal.
It is typical evil to attack the sensitive deeper ones. I have had myself. As I`m the same.
The things you mentioned I`m always on about.
I might get flack, but there are many that experience the same things or say the same things that have taken the so called injection. Myself heard from Jesus about it. He said it was an operating system, and about hook people`s consciousness up. He warned not to. It is about control and losing your soul. He stood in front of me saying it. Take it for what its worth. But as many have experienced they had a lot of side effects and many bad suspicious things gone on. People got severly ill. One lady I knew got myocarditis. After taking it. I have heard about spiritual people that can see into the spirit saying it detach your core from the body and that is creating the sensations. People becomes more materialistic say they can`t feel God any longer, feel different just the same things you are saying. to the T. Check Ana Mihalcea M.D Phd and veilofreality.com/covid vaccines-consequences for the soul,spirit and life after death very informative and what those seeing in the spirit also are saying. Christians. try detox. you can contact these people and see what treatments are there because there are some things like detox and so forth. It can`t hurt. If now you have.. I think they can probably advice about those things more. Ana Mihalcea warned about evils plans too. which is in full swing. She had weallthy and elite clients in her doctors office. they told her it was soon time for the big culling. to her face and mentioned the poke. It is true. Someone high up. In a time like this, I would be careful. I would examine everything, spiritual physical even that. I probably get flack, but at least I have tried to help someone. I believe the evil is using it too. I don`t want to scare you, but it is best to check all venues. while one can do something. Remember God has all the power. I would contact the church if I were you. I also want to say, I am all for free will regarding what people chose to do regarding the poke, and what they think about it.

Servus said:

Whatever qualifies was covered by Miller. One can either agree or disagree with what he said.

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He didn't mention "emergency".

Servus said:

I wanted to see if you or someone else had possible ulterior motives to offer.

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Why would I speculate about ulterior motives? We're talking about whether or not the President has legal justification for his actions.

Dem slams GOP for rushing billionaires' tax cuts, but stalling on health care

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Marjorie Taylor Greene blames Republican leaders for government shutdown

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Servus said:

Whatever qualifies was covered by Miller. One can either agree or disagree with what he said.

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Whether one agrees or disagrees is irrelevant - this is a legal issue, not a matter of opinion.

Please don't feel too bad about this. What you said may be a bit harsh, but I don't think it was a sin. If you feel remorse about what you said, perhaps you can talk with your father again and explain more clearly what you mean; without passing judgement on those who haven't come to the Lord.

Let me say, that I'm not Eastern Orthodox, so perhaps my views are out of line. I'm sure others will respond.

ThatRobGuy said:

I'm seeing some pretty deceptive language being used by Leo.

"On Thursday, Leo also sent a message to the Catholic Charities USA Network, which has been impacted by the freeze of federal funds for nonprofit organizations"

...so laundering federal funds through the administrative layers of Catholic Charities USA counts as real charity? Here I was thinking charity is when you use your own money. (of which, the Catholic Church has plenty of their own)

"Where the world sees threats, she sees children; where walls are built, she builds bridges."

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So.... massive walls and a security force of armed men in MC Hammer pants seems like it would cut against what he's saying just a tad.


"No Christian can regard the poor simply as a societal problem; they are part of our 'family,'" Leo writes. "They are "'one of us.'"

Decoded: "We'll keep our heightened security, screening checkpoints, our walls, and our unparalleled gazillion dollar art collection... but the rest of you guys should totally make economic sacrifices by opening up your borders because it's the Godly thing to do"


When one of these "all of you countries should do better at looking after the poor" Popes sells the art collection and uses the proceeds to give directly to the cause, then I'll take them more seriously.


Rule of thumb: if an entity making a proposal won't actually be impacted by said proposal -- be wary of said proposal.

It's super easy to tell other people what to do with their resources feigning the role of "concerned 3rd party"

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Whoa there, we are not selling the art collection.

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:

Her ex husband accused her of pouring boiling potatoes on his head . He would have suffered burn trauma. And would have had to go to the hospital. Does he have any proof. Does he have burn scars? I will look more into this.

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I don't believe it. She would never waste food like that.

The left has taken the real Jesus...



And transformed Him into a bleeding heart liberal.

Amo2 said:

Why will you ignore the chronological order of beasts developed in the book of Daniel, and insist apparently, that all seven should exist at the same time?

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Amo2, appreciate your interest in this conversation. If we were discussing the prophecies of Daniel, you would see I do not ignore the chronology of those four beast. However, this discussion is on the first beast of Rev. 13. One should not ignore the descriptive details of the beast if we are to understand its true identity. In this case the beast has seven heads and ten horns bearing crowns, and upon the heads the name of blasphemy. Too, it has some resemblance of a leopard, feet of a bear, and a lions mouth, representing the final union of nations, multitudes, and languages.

I will explain in further detail what makes up this beast should you be interested, but before I do I have a question for you. The reason for me asking is I surmise you have no idea as to what world wide events will propel this beast onto the world’s stage, therefore, your understanding of what this beast represents and what Satan intends to achieve through it is incorrect.

My question. What prophetic events forces the first beast of Rev. 13., up out of the sea?

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It is the dragon that has seven heads, the first beast of Rev 13 being the manifestation of one of those heads and therefore the dragon, being described. Each beast represents one of the heads of the dragon, being his representation to the world during their reign. Existing in direct relationship to and or opposed to God's people or nation on this earth.

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Yes, the dragon of Rev. 12, has seven heads, but the first beast of Rev. 13, emerges from the sea, which represents nations, multitudes, and languages, unlike the dragon who appears from heaven, (Rev. 12:3). This beast cannot be representative of one of its heads, since it has seven, not to mention the ten horns and the 42 months it is given to power, after it appears.

I will identify this beast, but before I do, I’m interested in what you think the head that had the fatal wound represents along with the ten horns and if the 42 months are literal or 1260 years, day for a year?

I’ll be anxious to hear from you.

Strong in Him said:

Your logic hasn't.

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GoldenBoy89 said:

Just saw the clip of her recent interview.

Yikes.

She’s totally unfit to lead a state like CA. If there’s one thing I can’t stand in a candidate, it’s a feeling of entitlement to some high office. It’s what I hate most about Trump and I see the same in Porter’s answers to the interviewer. Like elections are just formalities. We don’t need that kind of attitude in charge of place as big and important as California.

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But doesn't she remind you of a liberal female Trump? After seeing an interview with her, that was the first thing that popped into my head.