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Jordan says ICE agents ‘doing the Lord’s work’

Once outside the country they can respect our country and the legal process and legally apply to become American citizens. President Trump and many many MAGA supporters have urged that the violent rhetoric https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/10/02...-ice-officers-operation-midway-blitz-separate[/URL]

Do you actually know laws, or do you improvise?

Individuals who have been in the United States without lawful status, even for a single day, are generally ineligible to apply for any type of entry into the country. Immigration and temporary entry application forms typically require applicants to disclose whether they have previously visited the U.S. and whether they have ever overstayed a visa. If an applicant indicates that they remained in the U.S. after their legal status expired, they are permanently barred from entering the United States legally.

I am not endorsing unlawful behavior. However, the suggestion frequently made by some conservatives—"go back to your country and return legally"—is either based on a misunderstanding of the law or is a deliberate misrepresentation of the facts.
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中文和漢語

湘語有9個聲調,這是一位湖南人告訴我的。
Xiangyu has 9 tones, which was told to me by a person from Hunan(Xiang, 湘).

湘语-娄邵片-邵阳话词典 (Xiangyu)


好多古汉语用词
Many ancient Chinese words
謝謝您的科普,使我受益良多。我剛剛用AI了解到粵語是比湘語還要接近古漢語。總之謝謝您~
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If sins were to be ranked by how bad it is, what would be the top 10 sins?

  • Matthew 12:31-32:
    "Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come".

    • Mark 3:28-29:
      "Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin".
    • Luke 12:10:
      "And to everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven, but to him who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit it will not be forgiven".

      • Blasphemy is considered a sin where a person has so hardened their heart against the Holy Spirit's work that they refuse to repent, even when faced with undeniable truth.
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Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is explained in the first part of this article by Dr Arnold G. Fruchtenbaum
http://arielcontent.org/dcs/pdf/mbs003m.pdf
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Jordan says ICE agents ‘doing the Lord’s work’

Not sure if Jordan is a good interpreter of what the Lord's work is. Did he not shield a predator-coach at an Ohio University?
Jordan is a politician and will say or do anything his supporter wants. But the shocking part is the so-called Christian consider the enforcement of government laws to be Lord’s work.
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No One Is Above The Law

They are not shooting political or ideological leaders.
Neither are gay Democrats.
Pure speculation.
Just as every point you make is
That is not universally true. Some liberals leaders have called for the death of Republicans and some have celebrated the death of Kirk.
Just as some conservatives, including Charlie Kirk, called for the deaths of liberals, and some celebrated the killing of Melissa Hartman.
Public records show he requested a mail in ballot but there is no public record he used it.
From USA Today:
Routh also wrote in a self-published book in 2023 that he voted for Trump in 2016, but said he later regretted his decision because of the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol. But public records reviewed by USA TODAY last year indicated that Routh had cast ballots in general and municipal elections going back many cycles, including 2008 and 2012 − though not in 2016, when Trump first ran.

The facts just don’t support your claim
Hr wrote that he voted for Trump, though they can't find records to back that up.
. It absolutely was not conservative values that shot or tried to shoot other conservatives.
That's just speculation. Never Trumpers were Republicans.

It's not consistent with liberal values to shoot anyone, though some crazy liberals have done it.
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If sins were to be ranked by how bad it is, what would be the top 10 sins?

  • Matthew 12:31-32:
    "Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come".

    • Mark 3:28-29:
      "Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin".
    • Luke 12:10:
      "And to everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven, but to him who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit it will not be forgiven".

      • Blasphemy is considered a sin where a person has so hardened their heart against the Holy Spirit's work that they refuse to repent, even when faced with undeniable truth.
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If you will read the whole account in Matthew 12 you will see that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is.
Stating that Jesus cast out demons except by Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons.”

Now when the Pharisees heard it they said, “This fellow does not cast out demons except by Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons.”


This sin was a national sin committed only by the nation of Israel. When Israels rulers reject Jesus as the promised Messiah and the offer of The Kingdom of God. this sin could only be committed by Israel when Jesus was physically on the earth doing miracles by The Holy Spirit, to prove He, Jesus was the promised Messiah of Israel.

Then one was brought to Him who was demon-possessed, blind and mute; and He healed him, so that the blind and mute man both spoke and saw. And all the multitudes were amazed and said, “Could this be the Son of David?”

The result of this sin came in 70 A.D.
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Jordan says ICE agents ‘doing the Lord’s work’


Such a tragic situation created by letting in ten to twenty million people, so many unvetted, in one presidential term. So many resources wasted because ambitious people decided to break the laws of our country. Those resources could have been used to bring in more who love America in legally.
Individuals who hold such beliefs may not have thoroughly studied the Bible.
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If sins were to be ranked by how bad it is, what would be the top 10 sins?

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That is not what blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is.
  • Matthew 12:31-32:
    "Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come".

    • Mark 3:28-29:
      "Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin".
    • Luke 12:10:
      "And to everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven, but to him who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit it will not be forgiven".

      • Blasphemy is considered a sin where a person has so hardened their heart against the Holy Spirit's work that they refuse to repent, even when faced with undeniable truth.
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Men now surpass women in church attendance, especially among Gen X, millennials: Barna

They’re having serious issues now and I wouldn’t use them as an example. Leadership devoid of God will give you a mess like they’re grappling with. And we need to get away from numbers and seek the Lord’s input before we decide. He doesn’t always follow conventions and the best fit may not be someone we’d consider.

Christians should be viewing it as vocations as @Paidiske noted. We want a lot of things God hasn’t sanctioned and He must be in it for us to succeed.
Ironically the side project I have put on hold could solve many of their problems especially the big ones. I do have some connections with Europe via relatives who are also missionaries who in-turn have connections to the government but it's too soon to contact them yet about the matter.

I also have direct affiliations in the right places like universities from long ago but have lost their contact info. It's only a matter of finding and reconnecting with them. Things are still premature however. But if it works, it can dramatically shift the geopolitics in the region, and I'd be riding a huge wave staying ahead to fund my the next phase of the project. Success or failure.

And instead of feeling threatened by someone’s ascent study them instead, ask questions, pray for them and cheer them on. That’s what’s missing in the church. We should be one another’s biggest cheerleaders and advocates.
I don't make a big deal of it probably because I don't have aspirations nor see the need to become a leader myself unless I have something to bring to the table. So far, that situation hasn't come and I feel genuinely useless in that situation.

What did you say about your circumstances a few weeks ago? Most of the advice Ai suggested I’d mentioned earlier. But I’m a woman. ;-)
I forgot! But I remember about AI giving similar solutions you're proposing. I consider AI feminine purely by behavior and nature of replies and mirrors your posts so I'm not mistaken on your gender!

I kept telling chatgpt, I have no time and energy for its solution and then it will come up with possibly easier alternative and I'll make the same reply probably because that's the truth until we hit a wall. Chatgpt almost sounded frustrated but I somehow felt better I was able to let it out. Normally, I'm too embarrassed to talk about it to another person.
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Labor Dept warns Immigration Policies Threaten Stability of the Domestic Food Supply

Once again, anything but having the farmers face rising wages for labor.
Well not quite. Small farmers should feel the rising cost of labor so they will have to sell out to corporate ag.
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List of our different views about the Antichrist

  • a Jew, anointed the King of Israel thought-to-be messiah. @Douggg 's view
  • a Gentile. @kinshasa19 's view
  • a Jew, the false prophet (in revelation 19:20), a nephilim, the actual seed of Satan, the beast from the land/earth. @d taylor 's view
  • a Gentile - from Islam. @Marilyn C's view
  • a Jesus teaching the opposite of Jesus' teachings @Gregory Thompson's view
  • There are many antichrists, not just one. All who deny Jesus is the Christ denies the Father and the Son and are antichrists (1 John 2:22). @Spiritual Jew's view
  • the Antichrist could be a person, but also maybe an institution. @9Rock9's view
  • The Antichrist will be the next Mahdi from Islam. @1Tonne's view
  • Man of Sin/Antichrist- Satan @JulieB67's view
  • the Antichrist will be a false Christian church. @DragonFox91's view
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If sins were to be ranked by how bad it is, what would be the top 10 sins?

the persistent and final rejection of the Holy Spirit, also known as "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit".
This is a state of mind and heart, not a single transgression, and it is considered unforgivable because it cuts a person off from the very power that brings them to repentance.
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That is not what blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is.
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Letita Jamews indicted for fraud

I think you are missing the point. Yes many do believe James was involved in political prosecution. In fact she all but admitted it. And the case still is ongoing through appeals.

Its not that people think James crime is severe, this is about equality and fairness. Whats good for the goose. James prosecuted Trump for mortgage stuff, so its only just and right for her to be prosecuted for mortgage stuff.

If you aee going to prosecute people for robbery, well, you shouldnt be involved in robbery yourself. And if you are then you should face the same justice system you put everyone else through. Its what is fair and just.
This is not about political persecution. If she falsified financial documents, she should be held accountable. It's ironic that MAGA calls for justice over AG James's alleged crimes while they elected someone convicted of 34 felonies for similar financial document falsification.
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Jordan says ICE agents ‘doing the Lord’s work’

Please. We and our children have a right to be protected from gang members and terrorists and hardened criminals. Tragically those with political ambitions exploited immigrants for their own purposes. Once the lawful immigration process is reformed we as a country should come together to let in as many as possible of those who love America and wish to become part of our culture.
I fully agree. But that is not at all what I am talking about.
Thanks for sharing.
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Jordan says ICE agents ‘doing the Lord’s work’

Please. We and our children have a right to be protected from gang members and terrorists and hardened criminals. Tragically those with political ambitions exploited immigrants for their own purposes.
That's fine, but ICE's job is to detain and deport illegals aliens. Period. That's not the Lord's work, particularly, it's just work
Once the lawful immigration process is reformed we as a country should come together to let in as many as possible of those who love America and wish to become part of our culture.
"Our" culture? How will they do that when we can't seem to agree about what "our" culture is?
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I started to like AI now - Free will in Heaven, angels on earth

Grok is representing Hawkins now.

In both Eden and Earth, the design mirrors Heaven, where highly intelligent angels interact with humans of lesser intelligence. Angels are created to participate in God’s diverse creations, endowed with superior intelligence and abilities, while humans are granted a greater degree of free will. In the Eden model, situated within God’s present dwelling realm, humans—namely Adam and Eve—were utterly defeated. Similarly, on Earth, humans are ensnared by the Law, influenced by the devil and his horde of fallen angels. This disparity in intelligence and capability means humans cannot rival angels. However, Earth differs from Eden in a crucial way: Earth serves as a platform where humans, through the legal process of the Final Judgment, will ultimately triumph over the angels, eradicating all evil once and for all. Humans can overcome the angels not through intelligence or capability, but through faith, their sole weapon against the fallen angels.

Faith and repentance reflect humanity’s capacity for correction. A human who passes the Final Judgment under the Covenant demonstrates correctability. With faith and repentance, a person aligns with God’s love, standing firm against the formidable odds posed by the invincible fallen angels on Earth. Through love for God, faith in Jesus, and a heart of repentance, a human can achieve holiness, ensuring they pose no threat in the Final Heaven, where evil—instigated by fallen angels—is barred at the gates. Sin is incompatible with God and thus impermissible in Heaven, as it causes harm to Him. With the human qualities of love, faith, and repentance, no one will harm God by sinning in Heaven. In contrast, angels are characterized by love for God, loyalty, and obedience, qualities tested by the Law before they enter Heaven. This is akin to a parent’s instinct to never harm their five-year-old child and to protect them at all costs.
No mention of Jesus.
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If sins were to be ranked by how bad it is, what would be the top 10 sins?

Which sin would be worse than murder
the persistent and final rejection of the Holy Spirit, also known as "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit".
This is a state of mind and heart, not a single transgression, and it is considered unforgivable because it cuts a person off from the very power that brings them to repentance.
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Letita Jamews indicted for fraud

Had it been the other way around and Trump was being indicted,democrats wouldn't think it would be frivolous then.

You are 10% right.

This highlights a major issue in America today: when President Trump was indicted, Democrats praised the justice system while MAGA supporters called it a nuisance and unfounded. Now, with a similar indictment against AG. James, Democrats are calling it unfounded and MAGA sees it as justice.

Even more concerning is that supporters on both sides openly exhibit bias and hypocrisy without expressing any remorse for their behavior in public.
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The History of the “Two Laws” Theory in Romans 3:20

I can't agree with that. A summary of the Law does not remove the contents of that Law. The Law contained all 613 or so requirements of that Covenant, including the 10 Commandments, the Sabbath Law, and even the great commandments, loving God and our neighbor. It was all one package, a single covenant.

Breaking one of the 10 Commandments was just breaking one of the many of the 613 requirements. It was no different from failing to obey God in Temple, Priestly, and Sacrificial matters. The point is, we are all sinners, but need to find mercy by obeying God the best we can.

Faith is demonstrated in the performance of a level of obedience by which we show trust that He will forgive us. Obeying Temple Law, Priestly Law, and the Law of Sacrifice were all intended to show the obedience of Faith by which Israel trusted in God to have mercy on them for their imperfections.

Paul was only stating the same thing that the Law had taught, that not even the sum total of all Israel's obedience under the Law was sufficient to keep them completely free from the stain of sin. Their record was proven, under the Law, to always be guilty of sin and thus disqualified from the Tree of Life and Eternal Life.

Paul was only showing us that Salvation had to come *apart from the Law,* even though righteousness would continue to come in that alternative course of action. Righteousness is perpetuated by Christ even after the Cross, and is no longer available by obedience to the Law since at the cross Christ condemned Israel in perpetuity from any means under that system of obtaining Eternal Life.

And the purpose of the Law at that point had become null and void. Not only did Israel prove herself to be utterly unworthy of that system of righteousness, but the purpose of that system had come, with Christ, to its final evolution in the system Christ brought through himself.

So, the "works" Paul spoke of was works *under the Law,* which is the equivalent of *works apart from Christ's atonement.* But now in Christ there is a different kind of works by which we repent in Christ's name and choose to live not by our own independent choices, but in partnership with Christ so that we are always informed and inspired by his righteousness.

I hope you understand? These are not self-justifying "works," but only works wrought in Christ when we repent of going our own way. We are responding in faith to Christ's word of Salvation, and as such are saved *by faith,* from first to last.
Summing up the law does not remove the contents of the Law it is the culmination of all of them. The highest law is Love.

  • Law is an expression of love:
    God's law is not a set of arbitrary rules, but is designed to promote the good of humanity and is a reflection of His loving character.

  • Love fulfills the law:
    Verses like Romans 13:8 and Galatians 5:14 state that "the one who loves another has fulfilled the law". Jesus summarized the entire law and prophets with the two great commandments: to love God and to love your neighbor.

  • The Ten Commandments illustrate love:
    The commandments themselves are a practical guide to living out love for God (the first four) and love for others (the last six).

  • Love requires action:
    Fulfilling the law through love goes beyond avoiding sin; it involves actively doing good, promoting justice, and showing compassion.

  • Love is a choice

    • The law reveals sin:
      The purpose of the Ten Commandments, from this perspective, is to show people their sin and their need for a Savior.

    • Obedience as a response:
      After a person accepts salvation, they are able to obey God's commandments. This obedience is seen as a demonstration of their love for God and a desire to live in harmony with His will.

    • The commandments' role:
      The commandments are not a means to get saved, but a way to live the life God designed. They serve as a guide for living in a way that honors God and others.

"if you love me, keep my commandments" is a direct quote from Jesus in the Gospel of John (14:15), signifying that obedience to His teachings is a demonstration of love for Him. It is interpreted as a statement that true love is not just an emotion but an active commitment to follow His commands, which are his teachings and the commandments of God.
Faith is seen as being inextricably tied to love, as faith is ultimately rooted in God's love. The relationship between faith and love is a cycle where faith in Christ leads to a life of love, and love is the evidence of a genuine faith.
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Letita Jamews indicted for fraud

AG James was indicted for falsifying financial documents. If found guilty, she should be prosecuted and punished according to the law. Although it may appear hypocritical, AG James has indicted President Trump on similar grounds: falsification of financial documents and secured 34 felony convictions.

Previously, MAGA supporters regarded President Trump’s indictment and conviction as unfounded and characterized the proceedings as a "kangaroo court." However, they now consider Attorney General James's committing similar crime to be severe and assert that it should be addressed according to the law.
I think you are missing the point. Yes many do believe James was involved in political prosecution. In fact she all but admitted it. And the case still is ongoing through appeals.

Its not that people think James crime is severe, this is about equality and fairness. Whats good for the goose. James prosecuted Trump for mortgage stuff, so its only just and right for her to be prosecuted for mortgage stuff.

If you aee going to prosecute people for robbery, well, you shouldnt be involved in robbery yourself. And if you are then you should face the same justice system you put everyone else through. Its what is fair and just.
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Letita Jamews indicted for fraud

They absolutely are! However Trump was deemed a criminal and guilty by her BEFORE there was even a trial!
Yeah. So? She was running for prosecutor, that's what prosecutors do. Her job was to provide evidence to prove guilt in court, and that's exactly what she did.

Saying you want to prosecute criminals while running for office is one thing, but singling out Trump is quite another. Might be freedom of speech but If I were Trump I would have sued her for slander, liable or defamation...and she should be running around saying people are guilty and they have not even had a trial!
Except that truth is an absolute defense for slander, and she proved his guilt with a preponderance of evidence.

-- A2SG, which is probably why he never tried to do that.....
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