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VIDEO: Sen. Kennedy slams Dems' shutdown demands: 'We'll give $1.5T when donkeys fly'

"The number one goal in sentencing should be to protect society." Agreed.

Pardoned J6 Defendants Now Accused of Other Crimes​

Matthew Huttle fatally shot by a sheriff's deputy during a traffic stop on Sunday.
Daniel Ball was rearrested on federal firearm charges while still in custody
David Daniel arrest on charges of possession of child pornography, sexual exploitation, and trafficking of child pornography.
Andrew Taake now wanted in Texas for a 2016 charge of online solicitation of a minor
Considering that none of the crimes mentioned are even close to what happened during the January 6 riot, I don't see the connection.

If you pick enough people that have a penchant for, let's say antisocial behaviour, a certain number of them will offend in the following time.

I don't see why some people were released while there were still outstanding warrants, though.
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US Citizens detained for hours during massive immigration raid that empties Chicago apartment building in the middle of the night

Except they captured the people they were after. So, no show after all. The ones I putting on a show are the protestors and rioters. Showing you they are resisting "the man".
Oh, it was a show all right, making an arrest in the flashiest and most disruptive way they could.
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NYT report: In 2019, President Trump ordered Navy SEAL mission into North Korea; mission failed, left unarmed North Koreans dead

While the details of the mission aren't revealed in the article, my understanding is that, for a mission like this, they would likely be dropped off several miles offshore and use either a small inflatable boat or "sea scooters" to approach the coastline over the course of several hours, so they probably wouldn't have any sort of radar coverage past their dropoff point.
They used a submarine, which then launched two smaller submarines.
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The USA's 250th birthday to be celebrated with Octagon UFC/MMA fight, possibly on the White House South Lawn

Isn't that just splitting hairs over the style of entertainment though?

No more than differentiating between a reading of Shakespeare and a live sex show.

For the people who don't care for this, I have my doubts as to whether or not they would've responded any better to the idea of a Kid Rock concert.
It's a spectrum. Some things are more high-brow than others. I'd raise an eyebrow to Kid Rock playing a show at the White House the same way as I would ICP, even though they endorsed my preferred candidate.
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VIDEO: Sen. Kennedy slams Dems' shutdown demands: 'We'll give $1.5T when donkeys fly'


It's just not going to happen. As to the sentencing for trying to kill a Supreme Court justice, I do agree. The number one goal in sentencing should be to protect society.
"The number one goal in sentencing should be to protect society." Agreed.

Pardoned J6 Defendants Now Accused of Other Crimes​

Matthew Huttle fatally shot by a sheriff's deputy during a traffic stop on Sunday.
Daniel Ball was rearrested on federal firearm charges while still in custody
David Daniel arrest on charges of possession of child pornography, sexual exploitation, and trafficking of child pornography.
Andrew Taake now wanted in Texas for a 2016 charge of online solicitation of a minor
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Another look at the moon landing.

They didn't have CGI in 1969.

You are correct; Computer-Generated Imagery (CGI) was not invented or widely available in 1969, so it could not have been used to create footage of the first moon landing.

The supposed fake footage and photographs from the Apollo missions were supposedly captured using technology such as specialized slow-scan television (SSTV) cameras and film, which were subject to the limitations of the time.
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US Citizens detained for hours during massive immigration raid that empties Chicago apartment building in the middle of the night

It's really quiet simple, if you don't want to be rounded up with illegals, don't live where they live and work where they work.
I am assuming there is a public list of these places, or when taking a new job do I have to ask co-workers for their papers, just to be sure? I live next door to immigrants. They say they are engineers and fly an American flag. Is that good enough or should I ring their bell and check their papers. What then, sell my house?
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The 2025 Government Shutdown Thread

For a federal employee, a government shutdown means free paid vacation.
Not for air traffic control, military, NG, and many other essential jobs. They have to work regardless of whether they get paid (though yes, by law, if that still means something, they are entitled to all the back pay once the government is up and running again).
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US Citizens detained for hours during massive immigration raid that empties Chicago apartment building in the middle of the night

They rousted an entire apartment building in the middle of the night. They have raided businesses/construction companies and rounded up everyone brown. They have held them until they proved themselves legal. It is not the mission that is improper, it's the method.

It's really quiet simple, if you don't want to be rounded up with illegals, don't live where they live and work where they work.
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How much of your income are you willing to have taken for taxpayer funded healthcare.

I don't think so.

Surely, increasing access would increase costs .. not good. But how would increasing visits to a PCP provide a reversal to "declining birthrates, preventable risks like smoking, obesity, poor diet, and substance abuse"? Do you suppose that those who have developed such unhealthy lifestyles don't know that those lifestyles are unhealthy? Do they need to see a doctor to tell them so because they have no real friends who will tell them so for free?
Obviously, we should all turn to you for our healthcare advice.
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Censorship?

there is no higher standard or revelation of truth above and beyond holy scripture, right?

Oops

John 14:26
But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.

1 John 2:27
As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.

John 16:13
But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.

Many Christians unknowingly idolize the Bible, turning it into a false god by placing its authority above the Holy Spirit. Or simply from spiritual blindness.
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Another liberal judge injects her politics into law...

We should be more careful assigning labels to judges without at least looking at their record. This judge has had one notable case overturned on appeal. You will see she took the side of the policeman, and ruled against the protester that was blinded by rubber bullets. The appeals court did not. She likely would have been backed by the Supreme Court, but the case was settled fro a million dollars by the city of Salem.

Her background includes prosecuting narcotics and trafficking cases, serving to help Kenneth Starr in the case against President Clinton, she even questioned Monica Lewinsky personally. She seems to be a first class judge, the kind you would want on any case. After her background working for Starr, was disqualifying her from moving up, she registered as a GOP. She was appointed by Bush as a US attorney, then later by Trump for the U.S. Federal District court. Source: Karin Immergut - Wikipedia

"A jury in October 2022 unanimously found that a Salem police officer was liable for McCrae’s permanent vision loss when he fired rubber bullets while trying to disrupt a downtown demonstration. But U.S. District Judge Karin Immergut six months later dropped the lawsuit after ruling that the officer had no way of knowing he violated the protester’s rights when he shot her with rubber bullets, a legal principle known as qualified immunity.
Now, three judges in the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals have reversed Immergut’s ruling and restored the jury verdict."

Source: Protester wins appeal, regains $1 million payout for Salem officer’s excessive force - Salem Reporter

But.. but.. but . she is not supporting President Trump today. She is a RINO!
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The 2025 Government Shutdown Thread

That is just federal workers being federal workers finding whatever excuse they can to get off of work. They will get paid because they were explicitly exempt from the shutdown. The excuse that they are afraid of not getting paid is pure nonsense. They are just taking advantage of previous shutdowns in which they had received pay for their time off due to a government shutdown. I dont blame them, I would have probably done the same. For a federal employee, a government shutdown means free paid vacation.
Yeah, nobody works hard and earns their pay but you.
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Sept 23rd Rapture

Well, here in the UK it is 3.30 pm on Oct 7th.
There is time for Jesus to return today, but I wonder what this Pastor will do if he doesn't?
Come up with another excuse. The thing is, the enemy will keep going as long as he does. So if he goes back and the enemy gives him an answer that he accepts, he'll just come back out and repeat that. This cycle will continue until Joshua decides to stop.
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Israel-Hamas Thread II

Without the massacre of 7 Oct, we would not even be discussing this here. Hamas has brought its own population into this situation with the war. Israel has allowed humanitarian aid to be delivered to Gaza throughout the war. Otherwise, there would be no inhabitants left in the Gaza Strip. And what has prevented the delivery of humanitarian aid is one power: Hamas.
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US Citizens detained for hours during massive immigration raid that empties Chicago apartment building in the middle of the night

You and your friend are being overly dramatic because ICE is not just randomly picking up brown people because they are brown.
They rousted an entire apartment building in the middle of the night. They have raided businesses/construction companies and rounded up everyone brown. They have held them until they proved themselves legal. It is not the mission that is improper, it's the method.
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How much of your income are you willing to have taken for taxpayer funded healthcare.

Right now, if I include my deductible and Medicare taxes, about 10% of my income goes towards healthcare. That doesn't count the 75% of my insurance premium that my employer pays or their contribution to my HSA though. Figuring those in, nearly 20% of my total compensation goes towards healthcare.
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The 2025 Government Shutdown Thread

That is just federal workers being federal workers finding whatever excuse they can to get off of work. They will get paid because they were explicitly exempt from the shutdown. The excuse that they are afraid of not getting paid is pure nonsense. They are just taking advantage of previous shutdowns in which they had received pay for their time off due to a government shutdown. I dont blame them, I would have probably done the same. For a federal employee, a government shutdown means free paid vacation.

This is the Trump administration we are talking about. There is already reports of a memo saying they won't be entitled to back pay.


Edit: removed question. I figured it out.
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