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Trump Fires Acting Chair & General Counsel of NLRB

Trump can fire labor, employment board members without cause: Appeals court

  • President Donald Trump may remove members of the National Labor Relations Board and the Merit Systems Protection Board at will, a federal appeals court ruled.
  • The 2-1 decision from the Washington, D.C., Circuit Court of Appeals reverses prior rulings blocking Trump’s attempts to fire members of the key labor and employment panels.
  • The majority judges, who were both appointed by Trump, noted that they don’t address whether Congress can stop a president from removing members of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors.
“So, Congress cannot restrict the President’s ability to remove NLRB or MSPB members,” ruled Judges Gregory Katsas and Justin Walker, who were both appointed to the D.C. circuit by Trump.

The Trump administration is challenging the 90-year-old precedent set by Humphrey’s, which limits the president’s ability to unilaterally remove the heads of certain independent government agencies. The Supreme Court on Monday is set to hear oral arguments in a case that could determine whether Humphrey’s is overturned.

[Dissenting judge] “Under my colleagues’ reasoning, it appears that no independent agencies may lawfully exist in this country,” she wrote. “Their determination that the MSPB cannot be independent ... suggests that no agencies can be independent.”
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What are we doing here?

What I read in the scriptures is that the number who will be saved is few. I read that Jesus said Christians are taught by GOD through Jesus the mediator. I read that Jesus had a GOD and it was his FATHER. I read that human beings are totally mortal and must put thrift of immortality on. I see that men cannot properly interpret scripture because only the Holy Spirit of the FATHER does that. I see there was to be a great deception. I look at this world with 2.2 billion people all claiming to be Christians and I do not believe that. Many think we chose GOD and Christ but scripture says they choose us. There is something very wrong in what is called Christianity.

Jesus Christ is God, the incarnate Logos, by whom all things were made, according to John 1:1, together with the Father and the Holy Spirit - three coeternal, coequal persons, ever one God, the holy, indivisible and life giving Trinity (Matthew 28:19, 1 John 5:7-9, etc).
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I have a question and I’m confused

Modern Christianity is an all you can eat buffet, a smorgasbord , a gigantic confusing mess.

Orthodox Christianity is not modern, nor any of the rest. Nor is confessional Lutheranism or traditional Anglicanism or Roman Catholicism or other forms of liturgical Christianity.
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I have a question and I’m confused

Modern Christianity is an all you can eat buffet, a smorgasbord , a gigantic confusing mess. People caught up in it can’t see it. People don’t ask questions or do any real research to discover that there is no church out there that is the outgrowth of the Pentecost church. They are all 501C3’s in competition for members and money. These churches are what GOD calls HIS people out of, they are the unclean thing.

So, you say all churches are wrong, yet your profile lists you as "Christian". Do you belong to any church, or do you just live as a solitary Christian?
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I have a question and I’m confused

It means they test all their doctrine against the Bible alone.

Wrong - Lutherans, Anglicans and Methodists, who avow Sola Scriptura, and I have been an Anglican and Methodist, also test their doctrine against other things, for example, Tradition and Reason. This is why in most respects their doctrine historically agreed with that of the ancient churches, and still does in the case of the confessional movement.

You’re confusing solo scriptura with sola scriptura.

And again, which AI are you talking about? Different AIs produce different results.
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I have a question and I’m confused

You can see people's church affiliation by looking at their profile. (In my browser, I click the down-arrow under their profile picture.) @SabbathBlessings 's profile says Seventh Day Adventist (SDA).
This one has restricted access to the profile.
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I have a question and I’m confused

Please answer my question. What church are YOU in ?

You can see people's church affiliation by looking at their profile. (In my browser, I click the down-arrow under their profile picture.) @SabbathBlessings 's profile says Seventh Day Adventist (SDA).
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Now does everyone understand why the "right to refuse illegal orders" video was made?

This all started with a lie -

Hegseth said "kill them all" - Now the narrative has changed.
We don't know whether the original accusation, i.e. "Kill them all", is not true or if the current denial is just a coverup.
The decision was made by a career Navel Commander along side a JAG officer as consultant.

Sarah Harrison, who advised Pentagon policymakers on issues related to human rights and the law of war in her former role as associate general counsel at the Pentagon’s Office of General Counsel, International Affairs, said each strike creates potential legal liability for the entire chain of command involved in the attacks. “While the September 2 strike seems uniquely depraved, every single strike taken against these boats by DoD is a summary execution of criminal suspects, people who even if tried in court would never get the death penalty,” she told The Intercept. “Every single strike exposes those in the chain of command to the risk of criminal liability under murder statutes and international law prohibiting extrajudicial killings.”​
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Denaturalization

I think immigrants should be asked, "If war broke out between the United States and your home country, which side would you support?" It the answer isn't immediately "The United States," they should leave.
Hey, that would get rid of all the people who aren't spontaneous conversationalists too. We all know what trouble they are.
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Trump Admin Removes MLK Day, Juneteenth From National Parks Fee-Free Days (but adds Trump's Birthday!)

The Department of the Interior (DOI) recently announced its "resident-only patriotic fee-free days" for 2026, and missing from the list were MLK Day, which has been a National Park fee-free day since 2018, and Juneteenth, which was introduced as a fee-free day in 2024.

In place of these days commemorating American history, civil rights and equality, the Trump administration has instead opted to celebrate additional former presidents' birthdays and Flag Day, which is also President Donald Trump's birthday.

The removal of these days as fee-free National Park days follows the Trump administration's pause on certain days of remembrance, including MLK Day and Juneteenth, earlier this year, as part of the president's ban on diversity, equity, and inclusion programs.

For next year, the days chosen seem to fall in line with the Trump administration's "America-first" policies.

The department also announced the launch of new digital "America the Beautiful" passes, which will allow Americans to buy and use their passes on mobile devices ... The new passes also feature Trump's face, according to People

Does Open Carry Cause Problems?

I do think it has potential to cause problems. I don’t trust anyone open carrying, outside of LEOs (and even that is questionable) to be correctly trained and prepared to handle it in a a dangerous situation. My understanding is that legal open carry has no requirements for training or proving any capability to safely handle a firearm.
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Denaturalization

Do you have any links showing any of this?
Well, here's one:


You could always ask ChatGPT for a list. It's not the topic here. I was just pointing out that Trump is already on the outskirts of denaturalization, poking around at the legal issues.

As for denaturalization - that is a court issue. The President isn't saying he's going to unilaterally denaturalize, but look at the LEGAL methods available.
Right. Denaturalization is currently a speculative topic. But now that Trump is exploring the idea, we should explore it too.
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OU Student given a zero for citing the bible in essay

There is a thread in the Christian-only section, consisting of lots of misinformed opinions. Apparently when you don't read the assignment, you can just cite the Bible and then complain when you fail! Here's the Fox News version:

United States senators are speaking out after a student at the University of Oklahoma said she was given a zero on an assignment for her "Christian kind of worldview" questioning gender norms. Word of the failed assignment has now reached the halls of Congress, raising eyebrows from top senators, including former presidential candidate and Senate Banking Committee Chairman Tim Scott, R-S.C., and Oklahoma Sen. Markwayne Mullin, who represents the university in Congress. "That’s insane," Mullin told Fox News Digital. "Especially in Oklahoma. There should be zero tolerance for woke activists disguised as ‘educators’ who punish students for no reason and put their toxic political agendas ahead of our kids’ education."

Aaaaand here's what really happened:

[From Rachel Hurley as quoted on FB]:]

The conservative media machine has been running this story for days now, painting her as a persecuted Christian hero standing up against radical transgender ideology in academia. Ryan Walters, Oklahoma’s disgraced former schools chief, called her “an absolute American hero.” Fox News gave her the full sympathetic treatment. Turning Point USA blasted it out to 38 million views.


The assignment was to write a 650-word reaction paper to a 2014 study called “Relations Among Gender Typicality, Peer Relations, and Mental Health During Early Adolescence.” The study looked at 84 middle schoolers and examined whether kids who don’t fit gender stereotypes - tomboys, boys who aren’t stereotypically masculine - get bullied more. It found that gender-atypical boys especially faced more teasing, and that this teasing was associated with worse mental health outcomes like depression and anxiety.

That’s the whole thing. The study was asking whether kids who don’t fit neatly into “boys play sports, girls play with dolls” boxes get picked on, and whether getting picked on makes them depressed. The answer was yes. Not exactly radical territory.

But Fulnecky apparently skimmed the abstract and saw the word “gender” and decided the whole thing was actually about transgender people trying to turn kids demonic. Her essay argued that gender teasing in schools is not a problem because God made men and women different on purpose. She wrote that society pushing “the lie that there are multiple genders and everyone should be whatever they want to be is demonic and severely harms American youth.” She prayed that children would “not believe the lies being spread from Satan.” Not a single engagement with the study’s methodology. Not a single mention of its actual findings about depression and anxiety in bullied kids. Not a single counter-argument to the researchers’ data. Just vibes about how Satan wants kids to be different genders and God’s plan involves letting gender-nonconforming eleven-year-olds get teased.

The grading rubric was straightforward: 10 points for demonstrating a “clear tie-in to the assigned article,” 10 points for a “thoughtful reaction or response to the article, rather than a summary,” and 5 points for clear writing. She met none of these criteria.

And the whole conservative persecution narrative falls apart even faster when you look at who’s running this show. Her mother is Kristi Fulnecky, a Missouri attorney who defended January 6 rioters, filed lawsuits against mask mandates, and had such a contentious tenure on the Springfield City Council that the city spent nearly $100,000 on legal fees dealing with her eligibility fight after she operated a business without a license for seven years. One city attorney accused her of “grandstanding.” Kristi posted on Facebook that her daughter was “a warrior for Christ” and helped her daughter decide who to take her complaints to.

This is a manufactured controversy.
The formula is simple: find a culture war angle, refuse to do the actual assignment, cry discrimination when the grade reflects the work quality, and then watch the right-wing media ecosystem do the rest. Fulnecky gets to do the Fox News circuit. Ryan Walters gets to rail against “Marxist professors.”
The university, spooked by political pressure, put the graduate teaching assistant on administrative leave and assured Fulnecky the zero won’t affect her grade.

But sure, religious persecution.



Years ago a teacher handed out Christian materials in class with the Declaration of independence stapled to the back. When the administration banned the assignment, the right started screaming that "Radical left bans the Declaration from classroom!"

It's a simple formula.

Struggling with feeling God’s presence

I have found trying to conform my conscience to the Lord’s commandments useful for daily living. I need my conscience for necessary functional living and I need the Holy Spirit as my counselor. When, for ex., I read John 14:15-18 this seems very clear to me. I believe what Paul tells Timothy in 1 Timothy 1:5 can be applied here on an individual level although their discussion is on a pastoral level.

When I refer to the Lord’s commandments, of course I refer to Matthew 22:36-40, Matthew 7:12 per Matthew 7:1-12, Matthew 19:16-19, Romans 13:8-10 per Romans 13:1-14 etc. The basic way to live this is to try to practice basic charity & prayer ( see Matthew 6:1-13, Matthew 9:36-38, 1 Timothy 2:1-6 etc.).

Probably most believing Christians are already doing this but not seeing the whole picture & feeling something might be missing. Paul tells us realize that the Lord’s grace given to us is sufficient ( 2 Corinthians 12:9) & not to get confused by things we may not be able to handle ( 2 Corinthians 12:1-9).

I believe challenges continue to face us as we live. When I read Galatians 5:1-25 ( for ex.), I see the bigger picture but I am still, as with others, moving along ( see Philippians 3:12-16). I see myself more towards the slower end of the line but my faith moves me along.
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I have a question and I’m confused

Find the church that upholds God's commandments (His version Exo20:6 Deut4:13 Exo31:18) and has the faith of Jesus Rev14:12 which is how Jesus lived and what He taught. That will eliminate at least 99% of the churches. God's oracles (His truth) will never be lost, but sadly just a remanent keeps and believes in and follows.
Are you in one of the splinter churches of the former Worldwide Church of GOD ? Are you with the SDA ? The seventh day Baptists?
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