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Mississippi School Homecoming Celebrations Turn Deadly as 8 People are Killed 20 Injured in Separate Shootings

Because 100% of the killing in Mississippi are blacks killing blacks
Correction: it’s Americans killing Americans. If only Americans weren’t so predisposed to crime and low morals there would not be this situation.

I’m being subtle.
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Another look at the moon landing.

One minute you are refuting this and saying that no one walked on the moon; the next, you are saying that NASA arranged it so that 12 people walked on the moon.
Make your mind up.

I've said no such thing what I said ' Well NASA would have to make it 12'.
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Another look at the moon landing.

Provide evidence that proves what you say, that makes liars of the astronauts and everybody else who was involved in the moon landings.

I don't have to Genesis 1 says it all.

Why would NASA have to make it 12? Are you saying that they made it 12 to be the same as the number of tribes of Israel, and the number of apostles? Surely not,

I wouldn't put it past them, Satan reads the Bible too.
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Do you believe in Creationism or Evolutionism?

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BIBLE VERSES WHICH TAKEN LITERALLY SUPPORT A FLAT EARTH-CENTERED UNIVERSE

Ecclesiastes 1:5
The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises".
That says absolutely nothing about the earth's shape.

1 Chronicles 16:30 NIV

Tremble before him, all the earth!
The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved.

What does that say about shape?
]Revelation 7:1 - "After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth,
back the four winds of the earth..."
So are you saying you believe the earth is a flat square or rectangle?

Isaiah 11:12 NIV

..... he will assemble the people of Judah

from the four quarters of the earth.

A globe can have quarters.

Isaiah 40:22 NIV

He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth,
and its people are like grasshoppers.
He stretches out the heavens like a canopy,
and spreads them out like a tent to live in.
First, that is picture-language. God is a spirit. He doesn't literally sit. Second, the Hebrew word translated "circle" is elsewhere translated as "circuit." Thirdly, Isaiah writes, "above the circle of the earth", so the earth has a circle or circuit. He does not say, "He sits enthroned above the earth and the earth is circle." To say that "circle of the earth" means "the earth is a circle" is like saying that the wilderness is a pelican and the desert is an owl, because Psalm 102:6 says:

“I am like a pelican of the wilderness; I am like an owl of the desert.” (Ps 102:6 NKJV)

Job 28:24 NIV

for he views the the ends of the earth
and sees everything under the heavens.

Nothing there about the shape of the earth.
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Does "equality" even matter to Jesus?

I am curious to hear you guys' thoughts on the issue of "equality", and whether it even matters to Jesus. I've heard many on the political left argue that it does, though I've heard many others (usually on the political right!) say it doesn't matter, that it's all just "woke" and "Marxism"; and that the only justice important to Christians is that we'll see when Jesus returns.

What do you guys think? I'd encourage everyone to check out this 4-minute video before you reply, as I think it sets good context for some of the dilemma I'm trying to get at with my question. And then let me know what you think, thanks: Login to view embedded media
Equality is a very general term, and whether it's good or bad depends on the degree. People are confused about it.
Very confused, and got deceived.

Equality is opposed to freedom. The more equality, the less freedom.
It's also opposed to opportunity to help others. The more equal we are, the less opportunity to help each other.
We cannot have high degree of equality, which is what leftists want. Leftist equality is NOT associated with Christian love.

Basic equality ie having basic human rights is good. What leftists want is much more than that, which is not God wants for us. If you don't believe, listen to what Lenin said: "Down with love !"

Leftist equality has nothing to do with Christian love and justice, but many Christian are misled to believe they are connected. If leftist equality is compatible with Christian love, then why communists always persecuted Christians wherever they got into power??
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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

Because what you are describing is not what they are reporting, for that the surface deviation plots are much more informative. Some of the Petrie vases differs more than mm's between the highest and lowest points on their surface. Machining tolerances are limits on spreads not medians and averages, I'll have to add in my understanding here. Precision is the reciprocal of a measure of spread, as in when the spread is low the precision is high. Take this with a heap of salt I'm just putting machining terms in terms I normally use.
What is spread. Why did both Max (mean) and Karoly (median) both claim the vases were in the precise class based on this measure. Karoyl explains this measure is the best way to measure the precision of the vase.

I mean we can go back to Dunns team who did the gauge and CT scans. They determine the vases are in the precision class both through the gusge and CT scans. They list the precision on the specific points down the vase. Or the perpendicularity and paralellism.

Max also measures the Parabolic Fit.
The outer and the inner surfaces of the ‘precise’ vases exhibit excellent fit to a parabola with RMS error on the order of 0.005”. For comparison, parabolic fits of the outer surfaces of the ‘imprecise’ artifacts are on the order of 0.030”.
The Petrie vases are not as precise as modern vases or Matt Bealls vases in the precise class.
Nevertheless they fall in the precise class. If Max's precise class is M < 25 thousandths of an inch; then the Petrie vases are in the precise class.
You do understand that the most likely source of modern machining marks, are modern (from the 19th and 20th century) machines?
Yes and this is why its an out of place artifact. That we find maching marks like modern machining on 5,000 year old vases. It is the same for the modern circular saw cuts in the stones. These are out of place signatures and they cannot all be modern fakes. Like someone was going around with a circular saw in the 20th century hacking into Egyptian monuments and works.

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I guess if they can cut granite like a circular saw they can cut vases like a lathe or with some circular cutter. Take a close look at the last image where the circular saw has actually over cut and then backed up to straighten the line and continue cutting. Classic circular saw signature.

Someone on this thread said the three circular saw cuts in the basalt paver are modern circular saws done later in the 20th century. I think this just acknowledges what I see. That these are out of place signatures for that time. They look like modern machine signatures.
What Were the Ancient Egyptians Using to Cut Granite ..
Yes, we exclude them. If these precision vases actually were made 5000 years ago, we would expect to keep finding them in new digs.
Lol new digs. I think they have dug up aaabout everything. Unless the authorities are hiding stuff from us. Or a new grave or tomb is found with some vases. Like I said we don't need to do that when theres literally 1,000's already available in museums and private collections.

The best examples have already been found and are in private collections. These are the ones that we need to test as they are the best. But theres 1,000s in museum basements as well lol. Karoly has another two museums to test more vases. One with the Petrie museum and another with the Egyptian Museum in Turin, Italy.
I don't want to nullify anything, but without good provenance no one will ever be convinced that a vase should be taken seriously.
Yes I agree. But I think there is pretty good provedence already on at least some of the vases. Like from the Petrie museum. Put it this way. Do you think they are good enough, round enough to have been turned.

If you were to compare a precision vase sitting in the Petrie museum with a known softer vase handmade with a borestick you will see the difference in signatures just by eye sight. You will see those machine marks on the inside where they have not been fully polished out. Funny enough the exact same machine marks on Bealls vases. Must have used the same maker.
Both made mistakes, both need to go back and redo the analysis and report the radius difference between the minimum and maximum circle covering the perifery of the object. I gave you a picture from ISO 1101 in an earlier post.
Do you mean the difference of the radius from the center point of the vase slice to the outside of the vase at that particular point. Then the error or deviation from a perfect circle for that radial point. This is done for each and every point around each slice.

What about this.
Accuracy is how close a measured value is to the actual value. Precision is how close measured values are to each other.

We can’t measure accuracy of the vase since we don’t know what the original design was. An example of accuracy is creating a 1kg weight. How close it is to actually weighing 1kg is a measure of its accuracy. 1kg is a predetermined target.

For this vase, we are going to measure precision. We can see that it has a circular shape. This is true at any vertical position. So one measure of accuracy would be to take points along a narrow vertical height, say less than 1cm (the vase is about 12cm high) and compare the distance to the center axis for all the points. This would give an idea of the precision of the vase for representing a circle.

This has already been done for the vases. Why is this not a representation of the vases roundness.
Why, if they do not have good provenance? A measurement of something you don't know where it came from or what has a happened to it is next to meaningless. If one finds an object beautiful than one should of course display it.
Because lets say that most of the vases have been found now. There are no more. So they are now either in a museum or a private collection. Most of the vases in museums are from Petrie. Yet Petrie gave 100s away as gifts from the same digs. But he gave away the very best ones. The vases that will be the most likely candidates of the precise class.

So if we discount all the private collections then we are probably left with the lesser quality vases even in museums. There will be some. But the majority will be in private collections. So we also need to devise a way to test these private vases so they can be included. It is silly to exclude the majority of the best examples.
If they want the input from the professionals they'll have to put it articles in journals.
Yeah that will come. In the mean time its a bit of fun. But also as I said getting fixated on this specific example takes away from the overall view of out of place works all over the world that lend support for ancient lost advanced tech and knowledge. As with the circular saw cuts and many other examples it gets to a point where you cannot deny something is out of place in ancient times.
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Another look at the moon landing.

But they haven't walked on the moon.
You refuse to believe thy have walked on the moon - big difference.
Well NASA would have to make it 12, what a huge coincidence.
Don't be ridiculous.
There have been many space craft that have tried to go to the moon.
Some haven't made it and the people on board lost their lives. Some have - and of those that have 12 people have walked on the moon.

One minute you are refuting this and saying that no one walked on the moon; the next, you are saying that NASA arranged it so that 12 people walked on the moon.
Make your mind up.
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Another look at the moon landing.

But they haven't walked on the moon.
Provide evidence that proves what you say, that makes liars of the astronauts and everybody else who was involved in the moon landings.
Well NASA would have to make it 12, what a huge coincidence.
Why would NASA have to make it 12? Are you saying that they made it 12 to be the same as the number of tribes of Israel, and the number of apostles? Surely not, because according to you, NASA is trying to hide God.
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Curious as to what precisely makes Full-Preterism considered an non orthodox heresy?

Your probably not aware that the phrase "second coming" does not exist in the Bible. It is however replete with examples of the coming of the Lord.



The Bible has dozens of examples where the Lord physically and literally came down to earth on certain days to administer judgment, oversee calamity and fulfill promise and prophecy. These days of the Lord where he physically and literally comes down to the planet is where the Bible's doctrine of the coming of the Lord comes hails from. What does not exist in the Bible is the phrase "the second coming." Unlike the phrase "the Trinity" that is also not in the Bible but that at least goes along with what the Bibles teaches. The idea of a "second" coming or advent changes the Bibles teaching on the matter and renders the Bible's prophecy incomprehensible. Which by the way is design of the phrase. To turn peoples eyes away from the supernatural clarity of the Bible's prophecy and turn those eyes to something the Bible does not prophesy at all. Apocalyptic end of the world scenarios. See more...

And you're saying the bible says "He came down physically". Highlight where it says "He came down physically".
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Another look at the moon landing.

If God was so upset/displeased that men had walked on the moon, why did he let them do it on 3 further occasions?
12 men walked on the moon - 12.

But they haven't walked on the moon.

It wouldn't surprise me if someone, somewhere was drawing a comparison between the 12 tribes of Israel, the 12 disciples, the 12 precious stones which decorate the wall in Revelation 21 and the 12 who walked on the moon.

Well NASA would have to make it 12, what a huge coincidence.
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Another look at the moon landing.

He weren't to pleased at Babel.
I have mention before the reason why He wasn't too pleased at Babel. He had specifically commanded the people to spread out over the earth. The builders of the tower went directly against God's command to spread out:

“And they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, and a tower whose top is in the heavens; let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth.”” (Ge 11:4 NKJV)

God has not given a command that says men should never go to the moon.
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Another look at the moon landing.

He weren't to pleased at Babel.
Which was nothing like the moon landings, as you've been told.

If God was so upset/displeased that men had walked on the moon, why did he let them do it on 3 further occasions?
12 men walked on the moon - 12.
It wouldn't surprise me if someone, somewhere was drawing a comparison between the 12 tribes of Israel, the 12 disciples, the 12 precious stones which decorate the wall in Revelation 21 and the 12 who walked on the moon. That would be ridiculous - but more understandable than your "no, it didn't happen, they're all liars", position.
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Another look at the moon landing.

King James Bible
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good - 1 Thessalonians 5:21
What was GOOD was when you said "sorry" to God for doubting the astronauts, wrote a prayer on these forums asking him to bless them, and saying that you would ask for his (God's) help in sticking to your new belief.
Your words were something like, "it will be tough but with his help I'll get there."
Then you found a flat earth clip on YouTube, changed your mind and went back to calling the astronauts, liars.

You didn't hold fast then, did you?
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Hello everyone, I'm Anne. A new member of the community. I would like to make friends with devout Christian people. Study the words of God together. It is quite rare for me to come across devout Christians in my daily life. Among the people I have met, there are some who can spend two hours discussing the Bible. But not a single moment could be spent discussing the problems of my life. I'm looking for a religious sect. But I don't know which religious sect suits me? I like a religious sect that can assist its members in their daily lives, rather than just having them read the Bible. Because I am currently learning Mandarin Chinese, it would be best if this sect also has a Chinese congregation.
God bless you!
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