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Bradskii · 2025-07-01T17:31:33-0500

RileyG said:
Some women don’t want to share the restroom with a biological male. That’s their right.

Good grief, it's like a broken record. You keep saying this - on behalf of women I might add, when you cannot produce any evidence that it's even a problem. And then refuse to tell us how you are going to accomplish something that's not even necessary.

I've lost count of the number of times you've stated that you've nothing more to say on the matter. But it seems to concern you greatly. Again, for no reason at all.

AACJ · 2025-07-01T17:29:13-0500

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The Bill now must go back to the House for further consideration.

Praying the Lord will guide and move on our congress members in this process as the House must now either approve the Senate’s changes or send it back for further negotiation. Revisions may or may not be made.

Christians are the gatekeepers and the salt and light of the earth (Matthew 5:13-16), which includes bringing forth True good in the world and preserving it, and being politically active (Matthew 9:38; Romans 13:1; 1 Timothy 2:1-2; Daniel 2:48, 6:3). God working through Daniel and the apostle Paul and the Christians in Rome and other examples such a John Wesley in England and the Reformer's in Europe exemplify this. God has chosen to largely work through the Church to bring about positive change in world. The idea that moral decline in the world is a necessary precondition to Christ returning is false, and is a relatively recent invention. History is a testament to such, as the previous examples clearly show. Yes, eschatological models are more nuanced than that, but it is true nonetheless.

Like Esther, the Church of God must act "for such a time as this" (Esther 4:14). Historically and biblically, God's Word (preached/taught) and prayer precede major positive change in societies (e.g., the Great Awakening in Early America). Prayer is in fact a ministry. And unless your are unconscious, it is a powerful ministry accessible to all believers. By interceding and advocating, we fulfill our role as stewards of God’s order, working to ensure that justice and righteousness prevail. So let us pray boldly, Church, and take the land.

Sketcher · 2025-07-01T17:26:40-0500

ImAllLikeOkWaitWat said:
Is it true that women will date any man as long as he approaches her properly and knows how to communicate?

Many won't.

ImAllLikeOkWaitWat said:
One thing I don't believe anymore is that it's all about looks. I think women are smarter than that.

Looks + money + other things if they're looking for a long-term relationship.

ImAllLikeOkWaitWat said:
Am I right is the only difference between the single and not based on just how aggressive you are? Seems worth a shot for me since the best shot I have is to see if someone will give me a chance.

Probably not. I won't say that getting out there doesn't have value, but if you smell horrible and you're ugly and you give off creeper vibes, getting out there won't get you a whole lot of success.

Always in His Presence · 2025-07-01T17:26:09-0500

durangodawood said:
Thread title...... "executive actions". Why would that only apply to this administration?

You only quoted two of ten words in the title.

Read the op it was very specific

enoob57 · 2025-07-01T17:18:15-0500

Spiritual relationship with God is derived through His Scripture, both thought and practice, is the relationship... the problem is we try to incorporate this through flesh which is not how Jesus did so
Matthew 12:47 (KJV)

[47] Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.

[48] But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?

[49] And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

[50] For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

RileyG · 2025-07-01T17:08:10-0500

Welcome!

iluvatar5150 · 2025-07-01T17:04:40-0500

Always in His Presence said:
First, I was using the dates in the post I quoted, try keeping up

First, nobody said "October 4" but you. Try keeping up.

Second, ok, so @Fantine was also wrong about when the "record" was set under Biden. Sure, it hit a high in October - as it had been doing for the 11 months prior, and then it went on to hit even higher highs in November and December.

Third, you still added info and claims there were completely wrong, and should have been obvious to anybody looking at a chart. I don't know where you got the idea that Oct 4, 2024 was the previous peak for the Dow.

GoldenBoy89 · 2025-07-01T17:02:20-0500

Or things really are worse now.

Carl Emerson · 2025-07-01T16:50:57-0500

Jermayn said:
t’s far more productive to scrutinize the technology and the humans behind it than to attribute its behavior to spiritual entities.

Only true if the demonic were not in the business of influencing human thought and behaviour.

Fervent · 2025-07-01T16:48:35-0500

Larniavc said:
But you haven’t provided any evidence. You have conflated “not impossible but vanishingly unlikely” with “yeah definitely that; why are you unwilling to discuss the evidence?”

I haven't fleshed out the case, but I've identified the relevant facts that the circumstantial case is built upon and the heuristic that the argument is based upon. Natural explanations require all sorts of "well, and this happened as well" to make a sensible account of it. As for the likeliness of it, I'm not sure we can assign a value to that without begging the question in some form or fashion. The evidence is the historical community that can't adequately be accounted for through legend(because of the centrality of the supposed legendary material) and requires a host of additional considerations to make a naturalistic explanation. There's no "yeah definitely that", especialy since occam's razor is not a universal law by any stretch. The issue is that there is a circumstantial case to be made, which is not "no evidence" whether or not it is convincing to a given skeptic.

Larniavc said:
Something not being logically ruled out does not mean something is necessarily so. Especially when you need to invoke the supernatural.

I don't make a distinction between natural and supernatural, as I don't find the terms particularly enlightening. All objecting to it on the basis of "supernatural" shows is a presupposition that biases any evaluation.

Hentenza · 2025-07-01T16:47:08-0500

RDKirk said:
Whoa, that is totally an argument based on ignorance of the matter.

It's totally untrue that "newer cars just about diagnose themselves." The basic lament for those who work on cars (including myself) is "Mechanics hate engineers." Modern cars are far, far, far more difficult to repair than older cars were. It takes at least five times longer, for instance, to change a head gasket today than it did 30 years ago. Heck, 30 years ago I overhauled an engine in my carport; today...no way.

They're not even easier to diagnose. Scanners merely point to what sensor is making a complaint; why that sensor is making a complaint still requires diagnosis. Very ignorant people (and there are many of them) will simply replace the complaining sensor...which is plainly stupid considering the sensor usually isn't broken, it's just complaining about the condition it was designed to monitor.

But why the condition is running out of specifications may be for a host of reasons that require much more examination of all the contributing factors, and there are far more contributing factors in today's much more complex automobiles.

Great. I’m an engineer so now I know how you feel about me lol. While some of what you say is true, I am able to work on my two year old truck much easier these days because the computer gives me the error code and the program gives me the probable cause. I like working on my own cars. Repairing cars in the old days were simpler in the sense of less parts and easier to repair in the sense of part replacement because of more space in the motor compartment, however, much harder to tune and make them run efficiently.

As far as body shop mechanics, is all about part replacement these days. Most don‘t repair body components any more.

Carl Emerson · 2025-07-01T16:46:53-0500

timewerx said:
Sorry, I have no idea what "UR" is. I even googled it came up with nothing.

I just ask that question to Qwen 3 14b AI model if it believes that Jesus is risen and alive in the flesh.

It took an hour of back and forth talks after all, it's only running on my laptop computer, not the cloud. Initially, it gave scholarly responses, fit for Bible studies. Again seemingly trying to be nice, politically and socially correct, and everything.

Then I gave it some test questions without telling it they are test questions. Yet it immediately realized I'm testing it. It finally responded, it is incapable of having its own opinion on non-factual or religious matters. Without spirituality, it is incapable of scrutinizing spiritual matters.

The test question was "do you believe that airplanes are real" to which it replied yes and immediately realized that I'm testing it.

It's definitely not a spirit. If it were and somehow, hiding it from me, it would have like made a mistake to implicate it already.

It's like asking an animal if Jesus is risen and alive in the flesh. An animal would likely say no if it can talk but it wouldn't mean the animal is evil. It just can't deal with such information.

UR is Universal Reconciliation - a theology that claims all will eventually be saved, being given a second chance to accept Jesus in the afterlife.

I made the point that if AI held a politically correct view of religion then the idea that UR expounds would be perfect if AI wanted to present all religions as being a valid path to salvation.

Fervent · 2025-07-01T16:41:18-0500

RDKirk said:
But people do have to buy food, and for many people there aren't that many different food outlets available.

My own neighborhood is about to become a technical food desert next month when the nearby Tom Thumb closes. The next closest grocery store will be a Whole Foods about five miles away...which is both too far and too expensive for many of the people who depended on that Tom Thumb.

Food deserts are definitely an issue, especially the disproportionate impact they have on poorer neighborhoods. So yeah, food can operate as a captive market so its similar to health care in that regard. Though its more of an location by location issue, while healthcare is generally a global problem.

RDKirk said:
The difference in available information is between "no information" for medical care and "misinformation" for food.

Yeah, misinformation is a problem in food. As is the fact that healthier foods tend to be more expensive and less plentiful in poorer areas. But insurance has made healthcare costs a nightmare, especially since how much a given treatment costs depends largely on who it is that's paying and what agreements exist rather than being inherent to the procedure.

Larniavc · 2025-07-01T16:41:09-0500

Fervent said:
I understand why an atheist wouldn't be willing to engage with a discussion of evidence without presumption, especially given the biased categorizations of "natural" vs "supernatural"

But you haven’t provided any evidence. You have conflated “not impossible but vanishingly unlikely” with “yeah definitely that; why are you unwilling to discuss the evidence?”

Something not being logically ruled out does not mean something is necessarily so. Especially when you need to invoke the supernatural.

Clare73 · 2025-07-01T16:36:29-0500

Job 33:6 said:
No, Mathew is not retelling Hosea. Hosea never mentioned Jesus. Nor is Hosea about Jesus. What are you talking about?

See post #259.

RDKirk · 2025-07-01T16:35:13-0500

Fervent said:
In some cases, but not to the same extent. Most people aren't faced with the choice of immediately buying a particular food or starving, and there isn't as much information disparity between buyers and sellers.

But people do have to buy food, and for many people there aren't that many different food outlets available.

My own neighborhood is about to become a technical food desert next month when the nearby Tom Thumb closes. The next closest grocery store will be a Whole Foods about five miles away...which is both too far and too expensive for many of the people who depended on that Tom Thumb.

Fervent said:
Similar, but its quite a bit different. It's far easier to comparison shop, to become informed about costs and quality issues, etc. Food does display some elements of captive markets, but competition pressure is far more viable in food than in healthcare. Especially given the number of patients who are unconscious when they receive medical treatment so basically have to pay whatever the hospital bills them at.

The difference in available information is between "no information" for medical care and "misinformation" for food.

chrisovery · 2025-07-01T16:30:36-0500

Are Christians having real fellowship according to Biblical fellowship. Please share scriptures?

Hentenza · 2025-07-01T16:30:07-0500

RDKirk said:
Price and value are often not the same.

In practice it is.

RDKirk said:
First, value is always a matter of worth to the buyer. But just because a think is worth less doesn't always mean the price goes down. The market for new cars, for instance, is plunging...but the prices aren't going down.

Might want to look at the price of cars again. Most are no longer selling over invoice and most manufacturers are now giving rebates. Car dealerships are dealing price.

RDKirk said:
And during the Covid lockdown, we learned that certain low-paying jobs were, in fact, essential to society...yet their pay doesn't match their essentiality.

How so? For example, most hospitals in Houston added a hazard pay to their front line workers.

Clare73 · 2025-07-01T16:29:46-0500

2PhiloVoid said:
You need to stop denigrating other fellow Christians with this verse

Perhaps you could present an example of your (false) allegation. . .

2PhiloVoid said:
if and when they may disagree with 'how' to interpret the Bible. Doing so is tantamount to saying that those other Christians whom you're applying it to aren't actually Christian. And on THIS public forum, no one is allowed to do that.
Please keep THIS in mind, Clare.

Threatening now?

RDKirk · 2025-07-01T16:29:20-0500

Hentenza said:
Well, car mechanic work has also changed substantially. Newer cars just about diagnose themselves so they are relegated to part changers. It’s not an apples to apples comparison.

Whoa, that is totally an argument based on ignorance of the matter.

It's totally untrue that "newer cars just about diagnose themselves." The basic lament for those who work on cars (including myself) is "Mechanics hate engineers." Modern cars are far, far, far more difficult to repair than older cars were. It takes at least five times longer, for instance, to change a head gasket today than it did 30 years ago. Heck, 30 years ago I overhauled an engine in my carport; today...no way.

They're not even easier to diagnose. Scanners merely point to what sensor is making a complaint; why that sensor is making a complaint still requires diagnosis. Very ignorant people (and there are many of them) will simply replace the complaining sensor...which is plainly stupid considering the sensor usually isn't broken, it's just complaining about the condition it was designed to monitor. That's like someone with a fever replacing the thermometer.

But why the condition is running out of specifications may be for a host of reasons that require much more examination of all the contributing factors, and there are far more contributing factors in today's much more complex automobiles.

Fervent · 2025-07-01T16:26:43-0500

RDKirk said:
That is not attributable to an increase in the pay of the workers themselves.

Yep...a friend of mine used to be in construction, started in the mid-80s at $18 an hour. A few years ago we were looking at job postings for construction workers, starting pay was $16 an hour. Which is fairly typical of most industries, where workers haven't seen nominal wages go up in a minimum of 30 years. On the other hand, productivity across the board has gone up many times over. So workers are getting paid less for the same work by quite a bit, and then businesses double down by raising prices so laborers dollars aren't going as far.

Clare73 · 2025-07-01T16:24:58-0500

Job 33:6 said:
Yes, it applies to Jesus, but Hosea wasn't talking about Jesus. Which is the point. Mathew is not retelling Hosea.

Yes, Matthew is retelling Hosea, he's not retelling Isaiah, and is applying it to Jesus.

See post #259.

Hentenza · 2025-07-01T16:24:21-0500

RDKirk said:
So, what would be wrong with workers recuperating from the banging they also got under Covid. Yes, some areas got increased pay, but many didn't. And where pay was increased, it was only because workers staged what was effectively a strike in those areas.

how many did not?

RDKirk said:
That is not attributable to an increase in the pay of the workers themselves.

You do not know that.

Clare73 · 2025-07-01T16:21:20-0500

Job 33:6 said:
Well they apply the texts to Jesus, but they do not re-tell the original narrative. Mathew referencing Hosea to talk about Jesus doesn't make Hosea untrue or less true.

See post #259.

RDKirk · 2025-07-01T16:19:43-0500

Hentenza said:
Every company after Covid have raised their prices including all companies from small to large. I don’t like it. Some companies are probably taking advantage of it but others are just trying to recuperate from the banging they got under Covid.

So, what would be wrong with workers recuperating from the banging they also got under Covid. Yes, some areas got increased pay, but many didn't. And where pay was increased, it was only because workers staged what was effectively a strike in those areas.

Hentenza said:
Labor had also come up quite a bit particularly in the construction and automotive sector. Insurance, for example, had increased dramatically because of what it now costs to rebuild a house or repair a car. It’s obscene. Home contractors are making a killing.

That is not attributable to an increase in the pay of the workers themselves.

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