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Trump Says US Will Permanently Pause Migration From 'Third World Countries'

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This is a world chart amphetamine deaths per capita. The USA is in the darkest colour.
On this page other charts with slightly different statistics are available. Nearly always the USA is in the darkest colour. Instead of saying "we don't have a pill, we can't do anything", you should ask yourself (well competent authorities should do that) "what do other countries do different and what can we apply here?".
Other nations didn't wait for medication to come, why is the Greatest Nation on Earth, with the Greatest President ever waiting for?

No countries that I am aware of are resolving "addiction", though some, such as with Switzerland have curbed overdose deaths by providing syringe exchanges and safe injecting rooms. That's two different things.

I'm not interesting in safer drug use. I'm interested in finding a revolutionary medication that stops addictive inclinations. The tremors, the panic attacks that people experience - those are unfair disadvantages in making normal decisions. I'm proposing a new, revolutionary direction that will both save lives, and curb addiction - a  total solution, as opposed to a half solution.

I'm proposing a better solution than what is found anywhere else.
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Can an OCD person ever get assurance?


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They should easily be able to. They just need to believe God's promise that anyone who believes in Jesus for Eternal Life (God's free gift) has that life at the very moment of their belief in Jesus and cross over from death to life.

They must not look at themselves, but only God promise.
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Fellowship Distinctions in scripture associated with being born again and being filled with The Holy Spirit (Read the rule-set before you post)

I do plan on revisiting the spirit of Christ and The Holy Spirit differences in this thread some time here. I decided to make this a fellowship thread so I can get rid of the riff raff that occurred in the discussion thread I opened up a few months back.

What I'm looking at currently is the identification of our born again experience, being that it is an immersion into The Holy Spirit. That immersion adds us to the body of Christ, not some sort of change of mind.
Isn’t repentance needed . Unless we repent we will likewise perish, Jesus came preaching the gospel saying repent and believe the gospel. Immersion in water , as I understand is to be washed from our sins, to symbolically be buried with Christ and coming up out of the water as a living sacrifice looking forward to the resurrection, but the Holy Spirit is given by the laying on of hands. GOD is the one who grants repentance. GODLY sorrow produces repentance. Peter said to the crowd on Pentecost, repent and be baptized or have sins washed away, then by the laying on of hands receive the holy spirit . Seems to be a process; GODLY sorrow, repentance, baptism, Holy Spirit. From what I have read and studied this process was always used with only one exception, Cornelius and his household. What do you think ?
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Suspect in DC Ambush of 2 National Guardsmen Is Afghan National Who Entered US During Biden Admin

The same applies there. The mentally ill in particular are unlikely to know the laws at all or if they do, believe they apply to them
The same applies to individuals, let alone their religious groups, that missed the memo about rendering unto Caesar, when they insist they are to follow God's laws only.
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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

Thank you for expressing your private opinion of all the above
De nada. amigo. We've all noted your interesting opinions as well. Dang, even Islam is closer to Christianity than the claptrap you're peddling.

I have to admit, I think you have to be taking the Mickey here. Atheists. and particularly "Satanists" like to come into groups like this to "stir the pot" as it were by posting inflammatory flapdoodle like yours just to see how big an uproar they can create. While I'm sure there are some sects like the one you claim to represent out there, i don't think you're in one of them. You're just larping. That's fine. I don't think anyone here is gonna take your rantings very seriously. You set out to wind us up, and you did for a bit, but I think you've gotten about as much mileage out of it as you're going to.
, but may I remind you that "opinions are like noses". Everybody has their own
And some have ones that they play at having just to see how people react. <Laugh>
, so your private opinion is absolutely worthless to me
Egad sir, you've cut me to the quick! (And few things hurt more than a cut quick.) 8)
I just follow the Lord.
This is we're supposed to react with shock/horror/outrage/ anger/indignation/ superannuation (no, I already have that)/whatever, right? OK, I'm oficially expressing all of the above.

Friendly hint, though. Don't play this game with the Muslims. Those geezers will actually come after you. Just sayin'
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What would have happened to Adam and Eve and Cain after death?

I wasn't sure but this is what copilot said: These passages emphasize that on Judgment Day, Jesus will be the ultimate judge, and past examples of repentance (Nineveh, Queen of Sheba) or rejection (Chorazin, Bethsaida, Capernaum) will stand as witnesses against those who refuse to recognize him. They highlight that Jesus is greater than Jonah and Solomon, and that failure to repent in his presence carries heavier consequences than past generations faced.
John. Can I make a suggestion...
I know you are intelligent, and it doesn't matter how young you are, I know you can think.
I'm sure you can do better than Copilot, so would you mind leaving Copilot out of something that requires an intelligent mind using thinking faculties, and just use your brain for this?
Copilot can only give you what people feed it.

You can do better John.
Besides, I'm asking what you think. Not what other people believe.
You don't have to be correct, and you don't have to be incorrect. You just have to look at it, and say what it looks like.
I would prefer that because it's coming from a mind that's 'clean' - no indoctrination, or bias.

Take a look at each text.
So that you can see it in its almost original form, I put it kind of raw. I hope it's not confusing. Let me know if it is.
Pay attention more so to what it is saying, without trying to interpret it.

Matthew 12:41
Men of Nineveh will anistémi: To raise, to rise, to stand up, to resurrect en: in, on, at, by, with, among the judgment meta: with, after, among this generation
Matthew 12:42
basilissa: Queen of [the] south egeiró: To raise, to awaken, to arouse en: in, on, at, by, with, among the judgment meta: with, after, among this generation

Luke 10:14
It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon en: in, on, at, by, with, among the judgment than for you.

There is also Matthew 10:15, which I forgot to add.
Truly I say to you, on the day of judgment, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and of Gomorrah than for that city.
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What are YOU currently reading? (8)

I liked A Separate Peace. I enjoy the prestigious-school-with-intense-friendships-and-rivalries "genre," so I'm gonna read another book in the same vein, Prep by Curtis Sittenfeld. (Though, judging by the review on the cover, this one might feature more identity politics than what I prefer.)

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Synopsis from Amazon:

"Lee Fiora is an intelligent, observant fourteen-year-old when her father drops her off in front of her dorm at the prestigious Ault School in Massachusetts. She leaves her animated, affectionate family in South Bend, Indiana, at least in part because of the boarding school’s glossy brochure, in which boys in sweaters chat in front of old brick buildings, girls in kilts hold lacrosse sticks on pristinely mown athletic fields, and everyone sings hymns in chapel.

As Lee soon learns, Ault is a cloistered world of jaded, attractive teenagers who spend summers on Nantucket and speak in their own clever shorthand. Both intimidated and fascinated by her classmates, Lee becomes a shrewd observer of—and, ultimately, a participant in—their rituals and mores. As a scholarship student, she constantly feels like an outsider and is both drawn to and repelled by other loners. By the time she’s a senior, Lee has created a hard-won place for herself at Ault. But when her behavior takes a self-destructive and highly public turn, her carefully crafted identity within the community is shattered.

Ultimately, Lee’s experiences–complicated relationships with teachers; intense friendships with other girls; an all-consuming preoccupation with a classmate who is less than a boyfriend and more than a crush; conflicts with her parents, from whom Lee feels increasingly distant, coalesce into a singular portrait of the painful and thrilling adolescence universal to us all."
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Spending on Welfare is 'unchristian'

Kemi Badenoch, leader of the opposition in the UK Parliament, a 'cultural Christian' says spending money on benefits is unchristian.


Earlier this month, Badenoch quoted St Paul’s advice to Timothy in the Bible as she argued that the “responsibility and dignity of work” was a Christian imperative, the Times reports.
She said: “St Paul, we read, in the first Epistle to Timothy proclaims that ‘Anyone who does not provide for his own household … is worse than an unbeliever’.

“This is the Christian recognition that we all have duties … To ourselves, to our families and to the community we are part of. Conservatives believe in making work pay, in rewarding risk, in ensuring effort matches reward.”

She continued: “My message is let’s get people off welfare into work. Let us not leave debt for our children and grandchildren. That is the worst unfairness.”

When she was asked to elaborate on what she meant, Badenoch continued: “In early Christian times there was no state or welfare so I think that you can argue that, actually. The Christian tradition is about communities and families and charity, not about compulsory taxation in order to pay welfare.


Any thoughts?
God's Law (TNK/OT) very clearly contains instructions to make sure the poor can gather food, and that wealth is redistributed every 50 years, debts are erased every 7 years, etc. Justice should be available to everyone equally (including the poor) etc.

To say that charity and care for the poor is only a Christian and not a societal duty is a misrepresentation of God's Law.

The Bible condemns laziness and leeching off others; so whenever a society cares for the poor, sick, orphans, widows, etc. sensible provisions have be put in place abuse is minimised. Diligence, hard work and initiative should be rewarded, but the genuinely sick or poor should be cared for.

Sometimes Christians love Christian charity so much they overlook society is badly organised and not obeying God's instructions for social justice.
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Progressive government is the antithesis of a biblically based republic.

You've debunked -- nothing.

Very mature.
Congratulations on your first typo-free post of the thread in awhile. Very intellectual of you. As long as you wish to derail the discussion, let's bring back this gem of a post:
Who knows. I give up trying to read his mind.
If you gave up trying to read his mind why would you later admit to assuming he was talking about Charlie Kirk? Thy contradictions know no bounds.
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Why we are not supposed to keep the Sabbath

He didn't become Lord of the Sabbath i.e. the creation, He is the Lord of the Sabbath Creator of it starting back from the beginning.
Now you are adding words to scripture. The sabbath is not “the” creation but what happened at the end of creation. No one before Moses kept the sabbath because there was no commandment for it yet. And when the law was given to Moses it was for the Jews not for the gentiles.
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Revelation 4 interpretation

Rev 4.4 After this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had first heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, “Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.” 2 At once I was in the Spirit, and there before me was a throne in heaven with someone sitting on it. 3 And the one who sat there had the appearance of jasper and ruby. A rainbow that shone like an emerald encircled the throne. 4 Surrounding the throne were twenty-four other thrones, and seated on them were twenty-four elders. They were dressed in white and had crowns of gold on their heads. 5 From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and peals of thunder. In front of the throne, seven lamps were blazing. These are the seven spirits of God. 6 Also in front of the throne there was what looked like a sea of glass, clear as crystal.

In the center, around the throne, were four living creatures, and they were covered with eyes, in front and in back. 7 The first living creature was like a lion, the second was like an ox, the third had a face like a man, the fourth was like a flying eagle. 8 Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying:

“‘Holy, holy, holy
is the Lord God Almighty,’
who was, and is, and is to come.”

9 Whenever the living creatures give glory, honor and thanks to him who sits on the throne and who lives for ever and ever, 10 the twenty-four elders fall down before him who sits on the throne and worship him who lives for ever and ever. They lay their crowns before the throne and say:

11 “You are worthy, our Lord and God,
to receive glory and honor and power,
for you created all things,
and by your will they were created
and have their being.”


In 1 Chron 24, David set up 24 head priests, descended from Aaron. This was just the random number that developed from the number of families descended from Aaron at that time. It may have been God's way of expressing a double witness to the significance of Israel's 12 tribes. Everything was confirmed, as legitimate testimony under the Law, when there was a minimum of 2 witnesses. Aaron had two surviving sons, from whom these 24 leading priests were taken.

So the 24 elders appear to serve as representatives of the priestly order of Christ, whose atonement opened the gate for our entry into Heaven. They were dressed in white to show that Christians, who have access to Heaven, are made pure in the blood of Christ. And they had gold crowns, indicating that Christians have the authority of Christ, their head, to judge the world.

The lightning and thunder indicate that the purification of the Church leads to judgment of this world. The 7 blazing lamps are representative of the 7 churches in John's time, among which the faithful live by the Spirit of God. This brings conviction and judgment to the world around them.

I would suggest that these agents, ie the 24 elders and the 7 spirits, are angels, who represent what Christ has done for and in the Church. And the same follows for the 4 living creatures. They are angels representing something with respect to Christians, whom Christ has redeemed by his sacrifice.

These 4 creatures have the face of a man, which hearkens back to the Creation, when God gave Man rulership over the earth and over its creatures. These particular creatures serve the purpose of Man, after his redemption, to bring judgment upon the earth.

This judgment has been ongoing, from the time of the Fall, and even after the redeeming work of Christ. And it will be consummated at the Return of Christ, when the world will be judged in the Battle of Armageddon, and in Eternity through Christ's final sentencing.

The 4 creatures include both a lion and a flying eagle, both signifying God's predatory judgments against sinners, whether nations or their rulers. The "flying" eagle signifies that the judgment is already in process.

The 4 creatures also include an ox, representative of the plowing up of hardened land. The hardened land indicates nations, including Israel, who have resisted the Gospel of Christ, and must be plowed up in order to fulfill God's purposes on earth.

All of these things, before God's throne, indicates what transpires from the time of Christ's death to the consummation of His purposes at the Return of Christ. Judgment is ongoing, but delayed, until final judgment falls at the Return of Christ.
Something to consider is the tabernacle layout during the Exodus and Wandering. There were four camps of Israelites around the tabernacle, a camp for each direction. Judah, whose symbol was a Lion, was the east camp. Dan, the eagle, to the north. Ephraim the calf to the west. Reuben the man to the south. The sealed scroll of Revelation 5 is essentially the tabernacle of God being spread out across the whole earth. Notice in Revelation 6 that the four horsemen proceed when the four creatures say, "Come!" These were all ways the gospel was spread across the earth. The fifth seal sees blood of saints under the altar of burnt sacrifice, which was in the outer court. This indicates that martyrdom would be another way to bear witness. Finally, the sixth seal shows signs that strike fear into the hearts of God's adversaries. This is akin to the Spirt of God entering the Temple, as in the days of Solomon's Temple. The 144,000 are represented in the tabernacle as 12 loaves of bread. The multitude of martyrs are represented by the Levites. Finally, the incense offering of the seventh seal occurs in the Holy Place. All of these serve the purpose spreading the gospel to the whole world, building up Christ's Church.
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