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Which is basically what He said in Mat5:19 both teacher and those who follow this teaching are least in heaven meaning, they do not enter Rev22:14-15
Yes my friend. One who is of the least in Matt 5:19 will in no case enter into the Kingdom of Heaven as verse 20 states.

Matt 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
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Weekly homilies

Homily Friday, November 21 2025

33rd OT



1M 4:36-37, 52-59

"For eight days they celebrated the dedication of the altar and joyfully offered burnt offerings and sacrifices of deliverance and praise."



Joy and bliss, is the feast of the Heart to hearts, of God with us, in our being.



Luke 19:45-48

The Presentation of Mary in the Temple inspires us to present ourselves to God, in order to receive from Him all that we need in the present moment.



A suggestion to achieve this: let us follow this recommendation from Pope Saint John XXIII: "Let us simplify complicated things and not complicate simple things."



Jesus repeats what is written: "My house shall be a house of prayer."



Mary is a person in prayer. Prayer is to be in the presence of God.



Lord, thank you for being with us and in all people.



May each person allow Jesus to open their heart so that His Love may pass through them and touch the hearts of others along the way.



Biblical texts: NAB-RE

Normand Thomas.
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Read what it actually says.....
The law is mentioned three times. Once in respect to circumcision, once in respect to not fellowshipping with unbelievers. And once in respect to incorporating their ways. All of which is said in relation to how the Law does not make one righteous IF NOT through the Faith of Jesus Christ. If righteousness came by circumcision, not fellowshipping with unbelievers and not incorperating their ways, the Law, the Book of the Law then Christ died in vain.
Though it is no longer in place, Not once in the entire letter is the sacrificial system mention let alone chapter 2. It is NOT the context. Since you did not actually address the points shared in the post but attempted to talk over it I will repost it until you take the time to read it and address the points shared within the context. Whether you do or not will be seen. I hope you do.
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Paul mentions Circumcision in respect to Titus not being circumcised, Judeans not living as the Gentiles live but as do the Jews, and being separate from those who are not Jews in chapter 2 of Galatians. All of these are laws which are within the Book of the Law that is mentioned in verse 3:10. Ergo the law mentioned that does not justify is the Book of the Law. As it is written, the just (the righteous) live out of faith vs 11, the faith that establishes the law. The faith Abraham had. For the word, the commandments and statutes contained in the Book of the Law is in our heart and in our mouth that we do it. That is the word of faith that we preach and must hear. The Law, the commandments and statutes contained in the Book of the Law are in our hearts and minds. He has given us His Spirit to cause us to walk in in His way. For the written Law on Stone and parchment made no one righteous, not one. But the Lord has said, I will circumcise thy heart and the heart of thy seed. The circumcision made without hands, cutting away the sins of the flesh, that we can serve the living God. Not by the letter, the knowledge of sin. But by the Spirit. For the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life..

For that which was on the outside, the Law on stone and parchment is within. We are new creature begotten by the Word of truth. So Let us not forget what manner man we are now, or are to be, and be a doer of the Word that we are begotten of and not a hearer only deceiving ourselves. For we have conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Begotten by the Word of truth. Jam 1 and Rom 8

My friend and friends there are some truths shared in the post that you might not of took noticed to. I will repost it again and highlight one in particular which should have raised questions from you.

The obeying the voice of God is of the hearing of faith that Paul speaks of in Galatians 3. We know this to be true because verse 6 starts with the words “even as” when the spirit speaks of Abraham believing God. And all this is being said in respect to Paul speaking of us being dead but alive, yet not us but the Christ living in us. And the life we now live in the flesh we live by the faith OF the Son of God who gave himself for us. And this Faith is how we are justified. Because we Know that a man is not justified (made righteous) by the works of the law, if not (except) by (through) the faith of Jesus Christ, as verse 2:16 says

Works of the law is what we do. That is the context. Circumcision, not fellowshipping with the heathen, and not living as they do are all mentioned in respect to these works and all are laws within the Book of the Law which is mentioned within the same context in chapter 3. Couple that with verse 17 where it mentions if we are found sinners while we seek to be justified, made righteous through Christ, is Christ the minister of sin? God forbid it says! This tells us two things. For one this justification is much more than a cleansing from what we done. It is so much more. For it is Christ in us ministering to our hearts and minds, our every being to comply with His Spirit.

How do we know? Because it says if we are found sinners during this justification is Christ the minister of sin? God forbid we made ourselves transgressors!

The goal here through Christ is sinlessness. Which is the only righteousness in God's eyes. For it is written, He that does righteousness is righteous even as He is righteous. He that sins is of the devil. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested. That He might destroy the works of the Devil. Verse 16 says we believe into Christ that we might be made righteous by the faith of Christ. For faith establishes the law as Romans 3 states. This is the context and is missed by all due bad translations and poor exegesis. We believe into Jesus Christ that we might be justified, made righteous through the Faith of Jesus Christ. For the Just shall live out of this faith.

How do we know that verse16 is to be translated this way. Because verse 20 concurs when it says I am dead but alive yet not I, but Christ lives in me. And the Life I now live in the flesh; I live by the faith OF the Son of God who gave himself for me. Couple this with vers 17 where if it explicitly states, if righteousness, not justification. If righteousness came by the Law then Christ died in vain, for nothing. Hence why verse 16 should be translated, a man is not justified (made righteous) by the works of the law, if not (except) through the faith OF Jesus Christ, even we have believed into Jesus Christ, that we might be justified (made righteous) through the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. For the Just shall live out of this faith of Christ. And this faith of Christ establishes the Law.
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Eve and the Fallacy of Moral Choices

How could Adam or Eve have any concept of what good and evil is prior to eating the fruit that would give them that knowledge ?
I think scripture is pretty clear that Adam, the first natural man, was in fact quite totally carnal and incognizant of his condition, as are all natural people. And Eve as well. I do find it interesting that Satan attacked Eve first, technically the "weaker-inner" vessel of Adam. I think our inner man knows good and evil. Eve, as the opening post shows, did demonstrate sin in both thought and word prior to the final act of eating.

But in the closer look behind the curtain, we should be able to see that Satan had in fact entered into the minds/hearts of both Adam and Eve immediately after God first spoke to them, just as Jesus shows us in Mark 4:15 for example. That IS how God made all of us, subject to INTRUSIONS from an alien unseen agent or his own.

We all bear the infection. And if we claim we don't we're merely lying pawns of Satan.

Everyone IS tempted in MIND, beyond any question and evil thoughts defile everyone, period. God Himself in Christ being the only and sole exception.

The only thing Adam knew was that GOD told him not to eat from the forbidden tree and I would think he passed the information on to Eve.
I said as much in the opening post, AND Adam apparently either didn't pass on the information correctly to Eve and didn't bother to correct her when she was addressing the serpent. I think she could have even been discussing the matter WITH Adam at that moment and was actually talking to the SERPENT in Adam's sorry hide. The notions that it was some physical snake in a physical tree is kinda lame imho. That's just a fairy tale account. The serpent INHABITS people. This would be a fact of scripture and not a fairy tale.

In either case they "added" to the words of God beyond any doubt by tagging on the "may not touch it" part. God never said that. It must have already been in the mind of them both to at least "touch it." And they made up their own law to try to forestall the inevitable.

In any case they sinned, and sin is, as we know from scripture, "of the devil," 1 John 3:8, Mark 4:15

There is no use blaming either Adam or Eve. Satan was in play within them both. And this carries on in all people to this day.

When GOD first created Adam and Eve they were innocent they could not have fallen from grace because they were never under grace, there was no need for grace as there was no sin.
Well, that's really not true. IF Jesus was true, then Satan entered them immediately after God's Words were spoken to them.

How can we tell Adam was already fouled prior to the act? Because God laid the LAW and the DEATH PENALTY on him with the "do not eat OR ELSE" law. Yes, that was A LAW.

So who is the law for you ask? Why the law is for SINNERS. 1 Tim. 1:9. Yes, Adam was already a sinner. It just hadn't yet bubbled to the surface with an external lawless act yet is all. But lawless thoughts were already at work within them both as were lawless words just prior to eating. That's the progression of sin, from thought to word to deed. But it's all sin all the way through the pile.

The man had to have a free will choice to obey GOD or not.
IF it were only a question of Adam and choices you'd have a point but that was never the case. The SERPENT was given access to the dust bodies of both of them, and all subsequently. Your position is merely overlooking the obvious culprit and trying to blame and accuse BAD CHOICES rather than SATAN. And in fact that is exactly what Satan does "in people." Satan blames and accuses PEOPLE and tries to obscure his role in the matters, crafty red dragon that he is.

And your positional subsequent whole story about then being later saved by a good choice followed by a supposedly endless stream of good choices made by you to keep you in good stead is also a false position, again, because it utterly fails to account for the enemy of us all, the tempter.

Yes my friend, bad and evil and lawless thoughts do defile us all, without any question. Mark 7:21-23

Those who claim that is not the case have merely been made lying pawns of the tempter. I don't blame people for this activity because I know who the cause of that blindness is, and it's not the persons.
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Do you keep the Sabbath? (poll)

"Moses and the prophets" is the law and the prophets, and he explained all the scriptures the things concerning Himself. What could possibly have been left out, if He explained all things concerning Himself?
Luke 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
Expounding and fulfilling are two different things. He expounded, He explained "all the scriptures the things concerning Himself." He did not say that He fulfilled all things.
And how can our righteousness exceed the Pharisees, except by being God's own righteousness?
Jesus answers that within the same context. Verse 20 starts with the word for. That as you know means it is connected to the previous verse's context. They were breaking the least of these commandments and teaching men to do the same.

Matt 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Matt 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.


So you claim, but the context of Matthew says otherwise.
No the context is extremely clear.All Has not came to be. Jesus has not returned to gather the elect with His Angels as Matt 24 states.
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I think I've asked them this before but a scaled down model which displays the sun, moon and all the stars - But alas no joy.
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Eve and the Fallacy of Moral Choices

God gave man an objective:
Adam was God's son. A PART of God Himself.

Your attempt starts right out the gate trying to "divide" that fact from Adam and everyone else.

People really are God's children, when all is said and done. A generally accepted fact within larger orthodoxy.

So notions that God has children that fail and He is then forced to burn them alive forever is not only bizarre, but patent nonsense. Just another lie of the devils in the carriers. I don't think the people who get sucked into that kind of vortex have given it much thought myself. IF they did they'd have a better opinion of God and His Capabilities to actually be their SAVIOR.

Why is satan wondering around and/or in people?
I would suggest that is where the interesting parts reside. The classic theodicy realm.

You have to admit that the scriptures DO present a world of invisible actors overlaid upon people. It's pretty much beyond denial for a legitimate believer is it not?

An "antiChrist" spirit is, let's say, a unique but temporary thing kind of beyond our definite grasp other than the disclosures we have in scripture and what we can "see and perceive" in reality, even within our own minds.

Haven't you ever been blindsided by a "bad thought" seemingly out of nowhere? I'd dare say it's a "universal" experience to people. Take it from there.
This “all people go back to God” suggests universalism, so is that what you are saying?
iirc Jesus IS The Savior of the world. I actually believe He gets the job done. My bad?
Do you believe: “the devil made me do it”?

No. I believe the devil does it. Not made anyone "do it."

When Satan spoke through Peter's lips, it was Satan speaking. Not Satan making Peter speak.

There were 2 distinct parties present in Peter at that moment. Just as Satan entered Judas and betrayed Jesus. Just as Saul, under the influences of the devil, participated in killing believers prior to his "change" when his eyes were opened and turned from the power of darkness, Satan. Acts 26:18

Unfortunately we all seem to quickly forget that we also were blinded captives prior, and now the only change is that we see what our position WAS and we technically have dominion because we quit LYING to ourselves about the fact of it.
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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

I responded to your false statement “God is hate” with a definition that God is love and He tells us that is also His commandment to us. I made no claim that any of us can actually keep the commandments or achieve any kind of “sinless perfection”.

Now you go off into to some accusations of “works based salvation” of which I said no such thing. I was concentrating on the fact that God is NOT “hate.”

Your presumption that I was speaking about “works based salvation” is incorrect and an ignorant accusation. I understand the context of where the commandments & works apply to living by faith ( Romans 1:17, Romans 13:1-14, Colossians 1:1-29 especially verses 10 through 24) that these are of the liberty in which Jesus Christ frees us from the yoke of bondage ( Galatians 5:1-26. We are saved by grace to walk in faith for good works ( Ephesians 2:8-10).

I think anyone should read Romans 16:17-19 to consider in your way of posting.
I think you should read Romans 16:17-19 it speaks about those like yourself who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the the doctrine I have learned.
You contradict the gospel of the Lord Jesus, by rejecting the new covenant and trying to mix the old and new together, thus creating another gospel.

You falsely claim that "God is love" but I gave you verses to show you that God is also hate, but you rejected them because you only believe those scriptures which you can use to support your denomination.

Your always referring to verses which exhort "born again believers to do good works", but you try to apply them as requirements to fulfill, in order to earn salvation. You're trying to present a hybrid gospel, whereby we are saved by grace and works.
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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

Do you assume that I abhor the thought of that being true, like Dan1988 does with his "God is hate" nonsense on the previous page? Not at all. I cannot deny that universal reconciliation (I assume that is the position you take with these words) does have some Scriptural evidence
Brilliant deduction, although there are many flavors in the realm of Christian universalism. Even the infamous Roman catholic church "allows" it as a heterodox position.
I would be overjoyed to find out that it was the true interpretation in the end
Surprisingly, one can believe that Jesus IS the Savior of the world and still hold to eternal torment for the devil and his messengers. Imagine that?
I only take up the conditional immortality stance because it has more evidence in Scripture to me than the other two positions
I've mentioned this prior, but technically, we're all the walking dead, us included. Col. 3:3

So that part is a foregone conclusion in God's Eyes.

The "Body" we will inhabit for eternity is technically HIS, as all things are HIS. 1 Cor. 15:28
I most certainly do presume to cry out for His mercy and forgiveness while demanding that others are left in the dark of unforgiveness and wrath forever.
Yeah, maybe not so much.

IF we really wanted Divine Mercy we'd probably be well served to hope for it for all people, us included. You know, the "as you measure so you will be measured yourself" thingy

Besides it's good for the heart not to have to carry that kind of darkness in us. I've seen religious people get real ugly over a lifetime of holding on to that crap of hypocrisy and false self justifications, etc etc
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What like the earth is level or the earth is encircled by Antarctica ? These are not conspiracy theories they are the truth. Okay I have no evidence for these but I can assure you they are the truth. The Bible is a good indicator towards this but I'm not using Scripture, just google Biblical Cosmology.
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Eve and the Fallacy of Moral Choices

Faith in Christ remains the only weapon for humans to triumph and be saved through the narrow gate.
And faith, as we know, works through LOVE
And God IS LOVE
Every person will get a prize at the end, a pleasant surprise, imho

Using "faith" that supposedly works through love to condemn our neighbors to burn alive forever really isn't faith at all. It's anti-faith and antiChrist

"Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God."

Satan is merely the darkness that the light shines from. Nothing more
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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

And to command us to put His will ahead of our own, thus loving all as self.
Please identify the "us" when you use the word. I have no idea who your referring to when you use it. I'm sure your well aware of thew fact that there are only two types of people in the world. 1. The children of God, (those who believe in Him and serve Him) and 2. The children of the Devil (those who are slaves to sin and Satan).

The Word of God is a sweet smelling aroma to those of "us' who believe. But it is the stench of death to the unbelievers. The unbelievers can't obey any commandment, because they hate god and all of His commandments. God knows this and He doesn't expect them to obey, He knows it's impossible for them to obey.
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SO HOW DO YOU KNOW YOU ARE SAVED ??

And most will never believe Heb 9:18 I know that it is. your choice. and ROM. 10:9 and 1 0. is the only to be saved

and only Jesus shed BLOOD on. the. CROSS can anyone be saved , so keep reading Paul.

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I do believe Jesus is the Savior of the world and actually gets the job done regardless of various formulas and concoctions that people come up with to not save their neighbors
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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

I was once at the table, actually, for the first twelve years of my time as a believer. Thirteen years years after that, and I still intend to never return to "the table". Just because eternal torment and inherently immortality of the soul is the popular/mainstream doctrine among Christians doesn't mean it is the correct one. Far as I am concerned, it is worldly, carnal, pagan, and most of all, lacking in Scriptural evidence.
Let me assure you that God is not seeking your advice, or approval for anything He does. In fact you have nothing to offer Him at all, so it's not as though His Church is missing your service.

The Bible doctrine of "Eternal Conscious Torment" is abundantly clear. You just can't get around it, because Jesus did describe it in great detail. And yes it is eternal torment, and yes the pain of burning alive is not metaphorical, it's just as real as we feel it in this life, only mush worse than we can imagine.

It's not healthy or safe to for you to put yourself in Gods place, and say it's not fair. And you're right it's not fair in our puny little minds, but les not pretend that God has to obey our dictates and lets remember that His ways are infinitely higher than ours, and they are beyond our understanding.

If I could encourage you in anything, it would be to trust in the Lord and don't put Him on trial.

I'm not going to give you a long list of scriptures confirming the bible doctrine of hell, because I feel you won't approach them to be edified or instructed, but you will instead try to deny them.
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Instead you carry on posting nonsensical conspiracy theories that are completely irrelevant to the facts which have been presented here.

What like the earth is level or the earth is encircled by Antarctica ? These are not conspiracy theories they are the truth. Okay I have no evidence for these but I can assure you they are the truth. The Bible is a good indicator towards this but I'm not using Scripture, just google Biblical Cosmology.

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Biblical cosmology is the ancient Hebrew and early Christian view of the structure of the universe, which includes an ordered cosmos, its origin, meaning, and destiny. This view, developed over centuries by many authors, is not always consistent but generally describes a three-tiered world: the heavens (where God resides), the earth (a flat disc with a dome-like firmament above), and the underworld (Sheol) below the earth. God created the universe out of nothing, and the cosmos is often described as being surrounded by chaotic, primordial waters.
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He hangs the earth upon blimah

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There are no other verses supporting Job 26:7 to be translated this way.

Hang which is the Hebrew word teleh
Means to hang, suspend, or support by actual contact. never to hang on nothing: thus, to give a few instances/examples

Genesis 40:19 Within three days Pharaoh will lift off your head from you and hang you on a tree; and the birds will eat your flesh from you.”

Psalms 137:2 We hung our harps Upon the willows in the midst of it.

Ezekiel 15:3 Is wood taken from it to make any object? Or can men make a peg from it to hang any vessel on?

Job 26:7 using (supporteth the Earth upon fastenings (foundations) )." is supported by other areas of The Bible as a few times God states in The Bible, the earth is set upon foundations.

Job 38:4 “Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding.

Job 38:6 To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone,

Psalms 104:5 You who laid the foundations of the earth, So that it should not be moved forever,

But the word belimeh wrongly translated "nothing" is the crucial word. Our translators appear to have derived it from the noun blee, signifying consumption or desolation, and the pronoun meh, who which what, but the meaning "nothing" drawn from these words, seems to be very far fetched. Hebrew is a very ancient language, to all probability the most ancient of any, and this being the only place in the Bible where the word belimeh occurs, it is, of course, difficult to test the meaning. I (David Wardlaw Scott) have myself, however, not the slightest doubt, that Parkhurst is right in deriving the noun belimeh from the verb belem, to confine, restrain, or hold in, so used in
Psalm 32:9 Do not be like the horse or like the mule, Which have no understanding, Which must be harnessed(belem) with bit and bridle, Else they will not come near you.

and that belimeh simply means "fastenings," or "supports," and this interpretation exactly agrees with what Godh asked Job a little farther on in

Job 38:6 To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone

So verses like Job 38:6 support Job 26:7 to be translated from the Hebrew as

"He spreadeth out the North over the desolate' place (the abyss of waters), and supporteth the Earth upon fastenings."

And not, hang on nothing, as there is no other verse supporting this "hang on nothing"

Well it’s interesting that the harnessing of a mule or a horse is similar to that of the opposite of wisdom.
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The Ouroboros snake represents the cycle of life, not Antarctica.

I asked - Does the ouroboros symbolize the encircling of the earth.

The answer;

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Yes, in several ancient mythologies and belief systems, a world-encircling serpent or dragon that bites its own tail (an ouroboros motif) is a central figure.
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Says who ? @prodromos has helped me understand flight paths on a globe which in turn helps me to figure out why F/E's say the opposite.
Don't judge a book by it's cover.
I don’t know what the cover looks like. However, I know that you tend to just deny things you disagree with without giving proper consideration. For example, I gave you a list of 15 things that have been presented on this thread, and three more have been added. Your answers are almost always something like “No, it is not true.” You ask for photographic proof, and then say they are probably bogus when they are given. I don’t mean to be disrespectful to you, but you are not making rebuttals that indicate a sincere desire to understand. I’m not saying that you don’t want help with whatever problems you might have personally, but I am saying you don’t want help in understanding that the earth is a globe.
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As Antarctica encircles the earth like a ring.

Why do think they have the laurel leaves encircling the map on the UN logo ?

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Don't you remember, that this has been explained before? The olive branches represent peace, not Antarctica.
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A symbol of the Ouroboros snake which encircles the earth​

The Elite know the earth is flat but just wont admit it.
The Ouroboros snake represents the cycle of life, not Antarctica.

Why pick the UN symbol and the snake? Why not claim that a hula hoop or a quoit or a wedding ring represent Antarctica? There are plenty of things that are ring-shaped, but they don't mean that Antarctica encircles the earth.
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