Yet Again, At Planet Fitness...

[ToddNotTodd]

Female. XX chromosome. If you aren’t born with that, you’re not a woman.

That’s not “what it’s like to be a woman”. There are women who you would insist are women who have two X chromosomes and one Y chromosome.

How does having two X chromosomes affect how you feel, think or act?

 

[ToddNotTodd]

A woman’s opinion on this matter carries more weight than mine

You said you were married. Ask your wife.

If women don’t even know how it feels to be a woman what does that say about men who claim they feel like women or identity as women?

Trust that they know what they’re talking about.

 

[ToddNotTodd]

Woman: an adult female human being.

Oxford dictionary

You conveniently left out this definition from the same source:

Female
a person with the qualities traditionally associated with females

It makes sense that the definition for ‘gender’, which you’ve completely ignored by the way, is changing faster than the definition for ‘woman’. Give it time…

 

[Ana the Ist]

Trust that they know what they’re talking about.

Why?

 

[Ana the Ist]

It makes sense that the definition for ‘gender’, which you’ve completely ignored by the way, is changing faster than the definition for ‘woman’. Give it time…

No...it actually doesn't.

If you can't define gender specifically then perhaps people are trying force a new definition that's fundamentally absurd.

 

[A2SG]

There is reality. Just because someone identifies as the opposite gender doesn’t make it so.

Take care

“There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.”

-- A2SG, gotta hand it to Ol' Bill, he always knows the best way to put stuff....

 

[A2SG]

There's lots of ways...

Ghrelin and leptin are the biological chemicals that signal "hunger" and "fullness".

These are detectable.

How? You gonna perform an autopsy on me, now?

That's why your example is garbage. No need to thank me for the lesson.

The idea that a man is a woman on the inside is something you take purely on faith....like such a person is your new priest.

Nope, it's just something you continue to refuse to even try to understand, Horatio.

-- A2SG, that's why I've quit trying....

 

[Ana the Ist]

How? You gonna perform an autopsy on me, now?

Already went over this.

Nope, it's just something you continue to refuse to even try to understand, Horatio.

 Truth is truth till the end of reckoning.

 

[rjs330]

But faiths are expressly covered in the Constitution/Bill of Rights, believers are protected from overreach by government. You are arguing that transfolk aren’t covered.

I'm actually surprised that you would support anything bring taught to your kids that is based upon faith and belief rather than facts and science. Especially something that is biologically based. Are you now saying that faith should be a classroom education to all kids?

Educating kids that they might be trans is a faith based education. Because no teacher has any idea if a child is trans or not. And they have no idea how tell kids what it means to be trans because no one knows. It's taken by faith. It's based upon a "feeling" that no one can describe. There is no evidence for it.

 

[rjs330]

ideological bent on keeping them marginalized and sequestered from the rest of our society.

Oh, what does that mean anyway? How does anyone keep them marginalized ans sequestered from society?

 

[rjs330]

The change to the word ‘gender’ comes from ‘the people’. No one ‘forces’ people to use language in certain ways. It will just become the case that the people who are unwilling to adapt are unable to communicate with the people that can. That’s how language works.

This paranoia about language is silly.

The thing is gender still.mrans that it has always meant for the most part. Male or female. Gender theory on the other hand is quite different. It was invented by some very sick sick twisted individuals who were never able to prove the validity of the theory.

Can you prove to us that gender or even the definition of gender is something beyond the male or female sex?

 

[A2SG]

Already went over this.

You did? How'd the autopsy go?

-- A2SG, didn't even feel a thing...

 

[rjs330]

Funny, you’re STILL not posting anything to do with dictionaries…

Let me help you out. The current trending definition of ‘gender’ allows someone to change their gender. And guess what! That definition is appearing in dictionaries:

Gender
1. the male sex or the female sex, especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones, or one of a range of other identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female.
"the singer has opted to keep the names and genders of her twins private"

That’s from Oxford Languages.

So, according to that favorite of Republican sayings…

Facts don’t care about your feelings…

Let's look at that definition shall we? Social and cultural differences it says. Social and cultural differences of what we might ask?

Hmm... identities that do not correspond with ideas of male and female. What does that mean? What's an idea of a male or a female?

 

[rjs330]

My wife, and her friends by the way, are perfectly fine with trans women. There are a couple where my wife works. My wife is much more worried about men who were born male than women who were born male.

There aren't any women who were born male. What gave you that idea? You have evidence for that?

 

[rjs330]

Yes, but how does feelings define gender? A man can only act like a woman based on his own observations because he doesn’t know what it’s like to be one.

I will agree to disagree and move on.

Take care

Gender hasn't really been redefined. It still refers to sex. Places like the Oxford have tried to expand the definition to refer to identities, but those identities are still based upon sex. What the left has been unable to do, even though they are trying really hard is to separate gender from sex. And they can't. Why even the Oxford couldn't.

 

[rjs330]

What’s it ‘like to be a woman’? It seems like that description would be incredibly convoluted.

Try. What's a woman and how does one know they are one. Especially if they are born a man?

 

[rjs330]

Well, since ‘women’ can be born male, this is getting even more confusing.

And I just asked my wife what it’s like to be a woman. She said, and I quote, “I mean, every woman is different. There’s no one answer to that question.”

So in other words women can't answer that question, but somehow a man can? How does he know he is one then? What is a woman?

What's your evidence that a woman can be born male?

 

[rjs330]

The dictionary disagrees. And why aren’t you guys trying to get dictionaries banned?

Where did the dictionary say a woman can be born a man?

 

[Ana the Ist]

You did?

Did.

Are you denying it's detectable?

 

[ToddNotTodd]

No...it actually doesn't.

If you can't define gender specifically then perhaps people are trying force a new definition that's fundamentally absurd.

There’s a specific definition in the dictionary. I swear, it’s like none of you have ever actually opened one before…