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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

I find it strange how all this scrutiny is being put on the administration as though they are not credible.
Steve, they AREN'T credible. Trump never was, but at least in Trump I there were actual credible people around him (or even semi-credible people like Mike Pence). This is just no longer the case. There is no one credible at the top of HHS, or DOJ. Federal judges question the credibility and the presumption of regularity in DOJ filings (the presumption that they are telling the truth). Hegseth isn't credible, neither is Gabbard; Sec. Treas. Bessant shows how not credible he is on an ongoing basis. (Not to mention economic clowns like Lutnik and Kevin Hasselt.) The spokes people lie through their teeth with nearly every sentence.
This is all narrative to undermine the admin as far as I see. Especially coming from some who support the past admin and we know how they used lawfare and now finding out all the ciorruption and fraud.

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The point is your making judgements without any evidence and this doing exactly what your accusing the asmin of doing. You have already disqualfied yourself and so has anyone else who makes unsupported claims and narratives because they hate Trump.
I don't know if I am going to respond to another one of you wars on reality. I tried to demonstrate your wrongness, but you just double down with bad analogies, rejections of facts, and other sycophantic behavior. I think I have said enough for now.
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Why is so much nonsense coming from America?

There's a difference between being unemployed and it's out of your control, and being unemployed because you want to leech off the system.

And why exactly should people care about your rules if they consistently see them benefiting you but not them? For example, if they see the rich consistently manipulating the system, would it not be entirely reasonable that the disenfranchised would eventually respond in kind?

If you see people behaving in a manner of which you disapprove, try to understand that they're not really all that evil, they're just people. And don't fool yourself into believing that you're really all that different.... as they say, there but for the grace of God.

Disobedience to the rules says as much about the rules, as it does about the people.
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Funny, They Didn’t Look Jewish

Saul Sadka
v @Saul Sadka • 12h | If they're this upset to discover that Jews wrote the Christmas songs, we need to make sure they never find out who wrote the Gospels...

Andrew Torba & @BasedTorba • Nov 30 Just an annual reminder that this is one major way they subverted our most holy holidays to remove Christ from them and turn them into consumerist slop.

CHRISTMAS SONGS
WRITTEN BY JEWS
* White Christmas * Rockin' Around
Irving Berlin

the Christmas Tree
Johnny Marks

* Rudolph the Red-
Nosed Reindeer

A Holly Jolly
Johnny Marks

Christmas
Johnny Marks

The Christmas Song (Chestnuts Roasting * Run Rudolph Run
on an Open Fire)
Johnny Marks

Mel Tormé & Bob Wells (co-written)
* Let It Snow! Let It * Suzy Snowflake
Snow! Let It Snow!
Sid Tepper
& Roy C. Bennett| Jule Styne &
Sammy Cahn|

* Silver Bells
* It's the Most
Jay Livingston
Wonderful Time
& Ray Evans
of the Year

* Hallelujah
Edward Pola &
Leonard Cohen
George Wyle

Getting Ready for
Winter Wonderland
Christmas Day
Felix Bernard
Paul Simon
..and many more!

Brings to mind how Saint Ignatius Loyola reacted when informed that one of his early Jesuits had Jewish ancestry. “How wonderful to have a blood tie to Jesus and Our Lady!’

Jew hatred is not only immensely stupid, it is fundamentally anti-Christian.

Trump's Big Beautiful.....Gold Ballroom

You have that correct. I would definitely hate the style. (That's after I already hated the notion of N-M.) Some neo-classical based style with gilt baubles. Perhaps a touch of the vomit inducing Rococo. :vomit:

My favorite architecture is literally a reaction to this gaudy excess.
You're not into Late Boroque?

Architecture I find least appealing would be anything by Frank Lloyd Wright. He was responsible for the Marin County Civic center, which is awful.
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"Don't Give up the Ship"

The Law of Armed Conflict actually required the Navy to have surface vessels or some other means of rescuing survivors. If they had been obeying the law, they would have taken prisoners and made sure the remaining debris was sunk.
RD, that happened two months ago. It doesn't take much by way of brains to look at that video and say, "Whoa! That one was kind of marginal. If it gets out there'll be a stink for sure. What's our CYA going to be?" Two months on, the "War Department" still hasn't figured it out, they're just thrashing around and making an even bigger stink out of it.

My question (still unanswered) is, why are we blowing up those boats instead of interdicting them in the usual way, like the USCG is still doing successfully in the Pacific?
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Minnesota is drowning in fraud.

Chairman Comer Launches Investigation into Massive Fraud in Minnesota’s Social Services System on Governor Walz’s Watch


“The Committee on Oversight and Government Reform is investigating reports of widespread fraud in Minnesota’s social services programs. The Committee has serious concerns about how you as the Governor, and the Democrat-controlled administration, allowed millions of dollars to be stolen. The Committee also has concerns that you and your administration were fully aware of this fraud and chose not to act for fear of political retaliation. The Committee therefore requests documents and communications showing what your administration knew about this fraud and whether you took action to limit or halt the investigation into this widespread fraud,” wrote Chairman Comer to Governor Walz.
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Nick Fuentes and Richard Hanania’s Paganism

The popularity of Nick Fuentes is in its way a fulfillment of Ross Douthat’s much-quoted ominous prophecy that the “post-Christian right” will rise to replace the Christian right. While the young streamer may proclaim Christ and the Catholic faith, he plainly wears this identity as a skinsuit. Daniel Mahoney correctly identifies him as an avatar of “the new pagan Right,” owing much more to Nietzsche than to Jesus as he openly admires totalitarians and seeks to position himself as a political powerbroker.
Of course, this development is a liberal analyst’s dream come true, and multiple mainstream outlets have been milking the moment for all it’s worth. Several have cited the work of Richard Hanania, who argues that Fuentes embodies the natural end-state of conservatism. Hanania himself has an infamous past in the alt-right fever swamps, which he has disavowed in the process of reinventing himself as a sophisticated anti-Republican critic. Yet he and Fuentes still have something in common: In their distinct ways, both of them see the world through pagan eyes and analyze it with pagan logic. Their political projects may be at odds, but their post-Christian vision—or, rather, nostalgically pre-Christian vision—is shared.
The first Christians distinguished themselves from their pagan neighbors by a special care for the weak, the outcast, and the inconvenient. They refused to live by cold utilitarian logic, going out of their way to rescue human beings left to rot on the empire’s dungheaps. This instinct repulses Hanania, who regularly attacksthose “crazy enough to value the fetuses of strangers.” It’s no wonder the pro-life cause is unpopular at the polls, he suggests, because if people are that crazy, it’s hard for the sane normal people to predict “what else they’re capable of.” Against this “low human capital” morality, Hanania sets his enlightened lack of “a religious belief in a thing called ‘human life’ that has some kind of inherent value.”
In general, Hanania believes that the greater good sometimes requires human sacrifice—from babies with Down syndrome, to babies born without most of their brains, to incapacitated elderly people. One might say he practices seamless-garment utilitarianism, consistently maintaining that the weak should die when they overburden the strong. If society must expend resources on “creatures who can’t be trusted to take care of themselves,” he would rather we reform factory farming than lavish attention on “people who are stupid and weak.” His rhetoric echoes Heinrich Himmler’s exasperation at those Christians who insisted that care be spent on such people “in the name of a doctrine of pity that goes against nature, and of a misconceived notion of humanity.”

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Daily Mail: Kristi Noem's ICE hiring chaos laid bare as fat, illiterate and violent misfits 'not ready to tie their own laces' are recruited

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Given that America currently has the modern equivalent to a Caligula in the White House what did you expect!

As for the ancient Romans, they were never given the opportunity to elect their Emperor - Americans can't claim that excuse!

COMPARISONS

1) WEALTH - PRIVILEGE - NARCISSISM = both were NARCISSISTS born into lives of wealth and privilege, self-absorbed combined with a sense personal entitlement that would influence every decision

2( OMNISCIENT - complete knowledge of everything
- neither seeks nor recognizes the validity of expert advice based on the unshakeable faith that their sense of reasoning to be far superior

3) PUBLIC FINANCES - both viewed their access to the nation's treasury as another means of fulfilling their personal indulgences
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4) LEADERSHIP - both assumed the role of authoritarian leaders without delegating authority
- Caligula declared himself a "living god," while Trump created a cult of personality as a populist hero with claims he would "drain the swamp" in Washington

5) LOYALTY - both demanded absolute loyalty but those having served purpose became expendable - loyalty took precedence over expertise which contributed to a nation in constant chaos beset with often contradictory pronouncing and incompetent officials tasked with enacting them

6) NEPOTISM - during the 1st Trump Administration the President's daughter and son-in-law occupied positions of authority in the White Horse

Caligula threatened to replace the Roman Senate with his horse as consul (adviser)

7) CRITICISM - both attempted to project strength of leadership but their fragile egos resulted in their over--reaction to criticism
- Caligula executed his critics while Trump resorted to Twitter, personal attacks and petty feuds directed at politicians, journalists, judges, comedians, even teenagers

8) REALITY - both operated under the assumption that their strength of personality extended to bending reality to reflect their egos- Caligula declared himself a "god" to be worshipped while Trump assumed the role of a self-described "very stable genius"

9) RULE OF LAWS - both considered themselves above the rule of law
- for Caligula the law was whatever he said it was at any given time
- Trump felt unconstrained by laws, publicly condemning judges who ruled against him
- for Trump the Department of Justice was viewed as an extension of himself
- he also advocated changes in Constitution to overturn 2020
- Trump has made repeated references to serving a 3rd term as President despite 22 Amendment

10) LEGACY - both brought respect for their office into disrepute, emptied the treasury, incurred massive debts, eroded respect for law, created deep divisions and left long term institutional damage


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When I was young and first learned about Caligula, I wondered how such a thing could happen, why the senators and citizens allowed it. Now I'm living through it.
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The Eucharist’s Real Presence Or Virtual Reality?

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“The lawless one…the Lord Jesus will slay with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of His presence” (2 Thess 2:8). This verse is full of loaded terms. The Word of God is potent here with a rich array of interrelated meanings. Three Greek words are especially worth highlighting. “The lawless one…the Lord Jesus will slay with the breath (pneumati) of His mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation (epiphaneia) of His presence (parousias).”

Another way to render the last phrase is that the Lord Jesus brings the lawless one to nothing by the “glorious appearance of His coming.” This turns us to the final coming of Christ but a similar feat is accomplished even now by “the manifestation of His presence,” “the epiphany of His presence.” Lawlessness is slayed and done away with even now as we let Jesus’ Eucharistic Presence be manifested to our souls, receiving the Spirit-breathed Word of Jesus or “the breath (pneumati) of His mouth.” In the context of Eucharistic Adoration, we can hear the verse in this way: “The Lord Jesus will slay and bring to nothing lawlessness with the anointed-word of His mouth and the manifestation of His presence,” precisely as we adore Him in the Eucharist.

The Real Presence Of Jesus Is The Truth​

Jesus’ Real Presence overcomes all the illusions of the evil one, the father of lies. It is like darkness fleeing before light. It is like waking from a nightmare to discover real life again. It is the presence of the Lord overtaking the emptiness of godlessness. This is what happens in the Adoration chapel thanks to Jesus’ Real Presence.

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GOD'S REAL ISRAEL AND THE TRUE CHURCH?

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It's about one's relationship with Christ ... not ANY earthly things ... and that is not "replacement theology"
Replacement theology is the belief that the church took the place of the nation of Israel in GODS favor. My contention is there never was a replacement and that the church has always been in GODS favor.
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Pro-Abort Bullies Get a Bloody Nose. Good.

They hate you. They are for death. You stand for life.

You have beauty and grace, and love on your side. They have power. Worldy power. And they will wield it silence you. That’s all they can do. Silence you. One way or another.

But they seem to be running into some obstacles.

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So, Is the Body Positivity Movement Still a Thing?

That was just and example, there's obviously other options than just plain chicken and carrots.

Left to their own devices, a lot of kids will take fast food even over those other deep food traditions you mention.
Most adults wont pick the berders if they have experience with those food traditions. So I still dont buy the entertainment value of crappy food as the root cause here. Its what you were brought up with - or cultivated as adult that matters. The entertainment value follows from that.
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Why Are So Many Young Priests Leaving Ministry?

Priestly fraternity and lay support are of vital importance. How can we do better?

When Toby — not his real name — approached the altar during his ordination Mass roughly a decade ago, he was understandably nervous — perhaps much more so than the average ordinand.

Despite growing up Catholic, loving his faith, and enjoying constant encouragement throughout his seminary experience, Toby had nevertheless been harboring serious doubts about whether he could truly say “Yes” to priesthood. But he says expectations from family, supporters and the seminary itself created a situation where he felt it impossible to step back from ordination.

Though he immediately felt deeply insecure in the priesthood, Toby, on the advice of an older priest, decided to take his best swing at parish ministry.

“By Christmas, I was on the edge of a nervous breakdown,” Toby recalled.

“I was trying to do something wholeheartedly and properly and conscientiously, and my heart wasn’t there. Especially, saying Mass became very painful. It was this experience of this chasm between what I was doing and where I was [mentally].”

Toby requested laicization just a few years after his ordination day. He told the Register he had always harbored a strong attraction to marriage; he’s happily married today.

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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

Just like we can gain knowledge of the world through an experience of color that science cannot tell us with all the information about how the physical processes work.

All direct experiences with the world contain such knowledge. Being direct knowledge this means listening and taking more seriously what the observer and subject is saying about their experiences. Its all there except the materialist worldview will dismiss all this as imagination, coincident, and delusion.

I have already done this. I hypothesised that if we humans can gain a deeper knowledge of reality such as a 'Red Experience'. Then because the ancients were more immersed in the phenomenal realm of direct experiences and the transcedent aspects that stem from phenomenal beliefs.

Then this brought deeper knowledge and insights about nature and reality. How it worked. Just like another species that in part of nature and does not rationalise it comes to gain knowledge of how nature works. So to did the ancients.
As to what this alternative to natural science is you invoke the vaguery of "deeper knowledge" and mystical experiences with the adept gibberish of a New Age guru. Then...
That means they knew how to work with stone for example. Knew what changed its makeup. Such as chemistry and physics. So it was not that they may have needed modern day machines to make these machine like cuts or precision works. But that they knew how to manipulate the material itself.

Thus there was no need for machines as conventional tools would suffice. Because the material was now like putty or weaker that it was like working with wood for example.

This is one idea. Another may be that they also had some form of power. Be it through some sort of manipulation or concentration of the natural physics of nation that they understood. Which may explain who there are many alignmemts with location and dimensions. Maybe to do with acoustics.

But this may have allowed either some sort of weakening of granite or some sort of mechanism was used (not necessarily like modern machines). Maybe a process that involves the boxes in the pyramids. Or some sort of electrodes that created some sort of piezoelectric effect.
you invoke a series of *PHYSICAL* processes (acoustics, advanced machining, piezoelectric effects, chemical alterations) which are not only "material science" but as you immediately state:
But this is all spectualtion. But something along these lines.
As indeed it is. None of these thing are demonstrated and if you want to demonstrate them "material science" not New Age woo woo is the way to do so. Speaking of which, you conclude with several paragraphs of the alternatives to "natural science",
The point is that if modern science is trying to understand fundemental reality and if consciousness is involved. If the ancients were more conscious then today and lived by direct experiences with nature.

Then it makes sense that they came across some deeper understanding of nature and reality that could only come from a direct subjective experience. Just like the knowledge that comes from a 'Red Experience'.

But remember that this should not be viewed through the lens of modern material science or methological naturalism for obvious reasons. This is a completely different paradigm lens in how reality is known.

Similar to the difference between for example an 'Information' paradign of reality as opposed to the physical aspect that is the result or reflection of that information basis. Its more or less understanding reality in the deeper sense as to how it is reflected in the material dimension.

If the ancients understood the basis of the material reflections of the physical world. Then they understood how it worked fundementally and could manipulate it. Sort of Mind over Matter. Except the Mind or direct conscious experiences gave knowledge rather than any power of the mind over the physical world.
that come straight of the poisoned tree of Helena Blevatsky. When you invoke these alternatives to natural science you sound less like a Christian and more like a refugee from the Theosophical Society.
Thats the best I can do.
I don't doubt that.
I am sure there better ways of explaining this with some of the emerging proposals. But a lot is unknown and that is why the more data the better. Much has only been discovered recently with modern tech and its interesting that its taken modern tech to discover it.
I see to paths for you to retain a smidge of credibility with alternative Egyptology and history.

1. Embrace lost advanced civilization that has left few traces but did amazing things with their naturalistic advanced technology (in the same way that we have advanced naturalistic technology) and put aside all of the spiritual claims and attacks on "material science" regarding the ancient past.

2. Embrace the theosophical esoteric cosmology and claim the lost civilization was part of the 4th "root race" of humanity that built great monuments (for later civilizations like Egypt to find) using their technologies based on psychic powers and other supernatural magic.

OR, you could just accept that the professionals know what they are talking about. (I'm not holding out for that.)
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The Crisis of Decorum in Dress

US Secretary of Transportation (and Catholic) Sean Duffy moved public decorum into the national spotlight to point out that how we dress for and address one another matters.

Over the Thanksgiving holiday, we spent the week with family and friends. As we made our way home on a three-hour car ride, we stopped for a bathroom and snack break at the infamous Buc-ee’s gas station. As we wandered around, searching for the perfect snack, my five-year-old daughter, Mia, ran up to me giggling and said, “Mommy! There’s people here in their pajamas!” To which I responded, “I know! Isn’t that silly?!” Afterall, what do you say to a five-year-old who points out the obvious and knows what a room full of adults should know: that wearing pajamas in public is inappropriate.

We have a crisis of decorum in dress in our country. Gone are the days when people took pride in their appearance and dressed well for all occasions. One need only to head to the nearest public space to see evidence of this crisis. What amounts to pajamas is now considered appropriate daily wear. The days of ladies in beautiful dresses and gentlemen in suits for just a normal Tuesday are behind us.

Last week, the United States Secretary of Transportation, Sean Duffy, shined national attention on this crisis in his interview with Fox News regarding behavior in air travel these days. He said, “People dress up like they’re going to bed when they fly.” He rightly connects how we dress with how we behave:

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Why we are not supposed to keep the Sabbath

I simply pointed out to you what the God, who inspired the Holy Scriptures that Paul said were trustworthy "for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.", had written.
Yes. The scriptures are indeed trustworthy. However, interpretations of scripture are a different story. One has to be very careful not to read a preferred doctrine into them.
No different than the Jesus "of the Bible" and Paul did when speaking to the promoters of this world's religions of their time.
Yes. And that would be an example of twisting scripture.
You say that the GOD "you profess to know", never inspired the Words I showed to you. Who am I to argue with you concerning the God you profess to know. We all choose, and are servants to whom we "Yield ourself" servants to obey, according to Paul.
Here we agree in principle but from different perspectives, you for the law still being relevant and me for the law no longer being relevant. Please correct me if I understood you incorrectly about your argument.
I was simply pointing out what the God, who inspired the Holy Scriptures, told the world who HIS LAWS were created for.
But the law’s purpose and practical use has changed from the old covenant to the new. And this change came about by Him fulfilling (completing) the law and nailing it to the cross.
And I did so in hope that you might consider His Words.

But it's ultimately your choice.
My choice to do what exactly?
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Donald Trump Says US To Launch Land Action in Venezuela ‘Very Soon’

It is not a drug war that is for sure. Why? Because Venezuela is not the kingpin, it is more of a transit stop for drugs and a minor player compared to Mexico or Columbia. It is a cover story for getting regime change. Maduro is definitely a poor leader who also stole the election. I guess those are not good enough reasons? To me they are and I suppose I would support some military involvement as long as American leaders are not trying to game the nation with lucrative oil contracts and insider deals.
"Maduro is definitely a poor leader who also stole the election."

No, those are not good reasons for invading another country.

If those are good reasons by Republican standards, then someone should have invaded the US when Biden won.
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C. S. Lewis: More Evidences Of Anti-Catholic Prejudice

The following excerpts are from the book, The Inklings: C. S. Lewis, J. R. R. Tolkien, Charles Williams, and Their Friends, by Humphrey Carpenter (1946-2005), New York, Ballantine Books, 1978. Carpenter was an Anglican, whose father, Harry Carpenter(1901-1993) was the bishop of Oxford, from 1955 to 1970, who had, incidentally, refused to sanction a church marriage of Lewis and Joy Davidman in 1956.

Humphrey Carpenter also wrote the authorized work, Tolkien: A Biography (1977) and The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien (1981). Tolkien was a very devout Catholic, and a close friend of Lewis — part of his inner circle; the “Inklings”–, who would know enough to express an informed opinion of remnants of anti-Catholicism in Lewis. Lewis’ own words will be in blue; Tolkien’s in green.

Tolkien admired The Pilgrim’s Regress [1933], but many years later, he wrote of it: ‘It was not for some time that I realized that there was more in the title Pilgrim’s Regress than I had understood (or the author either, maybe). Lewis would regress. He would not re-enter Christianity by a new door, but by the old one: at least in the sense that in taking it up again he would also take up, or reawaken, the prejudices so sedulously planted in boyhood. He would become again a Northern Ireland protestant.’[from The Ulsterior Motive: a still unpublished essay written in 1964, the year after Lewis died, as a critique of Lewis’ book, Letters to Malcom: Chiefly on Prayer. Lewis biographer A. N. Wilson also cited Tolkien from this essay (on p. 217 of his biography), referring to the “anti-Catholic mythology” of Lewis]

Was Lewis an Ulster Protestant? In Surprised by Joy [1955] he denies that he had been brought up in any particularly puritanical form of religion, and he was very angry when a Catholic publisher who reissued The Pilgrim’s Regress identified ‘Puritania’ with Ulster. . . . However, his diary of life at Wynyard School, written when he was ten years old, gives a rather different impression:

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FBI makes arrest in investigation into pipe bombs placed in DC on eve of Jan. 6 riot, AP source says

CNN media influencers are pushing the idea that Trump pardoned the Jan. 6 rioters, but this poor, young black fellow will receive punishment without pardon, and that it's not fair.

Should Brian Cole Jr. Recieve clemency? Or "the book"? That's the question, knowing now that he's black instead of white.

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His lawyers should and probably will argue that he is included in Trump's pardon of J6 rioters unless that pardon names each and every individual, which I don't know the answer to. And even then they may still argue it because he was unknown at the time and should have been included.

It does beg the question as to whether Trump would have included him in his pardon if he had been known and why or why not.
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