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Did India deny a visa to Franklin Graham ahead of a crusade? Here's what we know

The Rev. Franklin Graham was recently unable to attend a Christian revival event in India due to a visa issue, with some alleging foul play.

Reports circulated last week stating that the 73-year-old Graham was prevented from speaking at an event in Nagaland late last month to commemorate the anniversary of a crusade his father, the late Rev. Billy Graham, conducted in the region 53 years earlier. The Times of India reported that Graham had been denied a visa, causing one local leader to send letters to federal officials voicing displeasure with the matter.

A spokesperson for the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association clarified the situation in a statement sent to The Christian Post on Tuesday.

"The visas for Rev. Franklin Graham and our team were approved by the Government of India, Ministry of Home Affairs, Foreigners Division; however, it was after the necessary departure date for Mr. Graham to arrive in time for Nagaland United: A Gathering of Faith, Hope and Revival and for the Hornbill Festival," read the statement.

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Although I don't believe this apparently scientists believe life formed on its own

But if I buy the whole Orthodox Christian story of 'God the creator' then I have to ask myself... why in the heck did God do such a poor job? I mean just think about it, the earth that you and I live on is currently crawling with a 'multitude' of fallen angels and demons who are constantly trying to corrupt our very souls. Thank you God for the 'wonderful' world that you've created for me to live on. :doh:
The world we are in is not the one God created for you to live on, humans are banned from that one.... 23 So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side[e] of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life. Genesis 3 NIV

I absolutely accept that this post is not scientific, but I believe I am replying to an unscientific question.
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Not a lot of respect for men

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With the childbearing thing, theres FAR too many problems with the interpretation that unless you have children, you aren't saved. What about women who can't have kids? That is like saying God created them for the sole purpose to condemn them to hell. I know Calvinists agree with that stance, but then that is just an evil God in my opinion. So ultimately then, there is an issue when other scripture and dozens of other passages talk about the saving faith and grace of Jesus. That forms a contradiction. So just on surface level there are issues and it bugs me that people teach to accept Pauls 1 sentence and just toss out the entire new testament because then it doesn't apply.

I really like this explanation, so I'm going to post it with the Link that maybe it will edify you too :heart: Link


The reason why that makes the most sense is because during that time, women were not getting married or having children and instead, were leaders in the cult of Diana (Artemis). They were also promoting the lifestyle being a single woman (sound familiar?? *cough* today's 'women empowerment' *cough*) So Paul again, was addressing the issues for that particular place and culture and he's saying that if women reject that cult culture, that they would be saved from the deception that the cult was going on about and ultimately, be saved in a salvation sense "if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety".
When it says that women are saved through child bearing I think it refers back to the promise in Genesis 3:15 . It was a woman who brought forth the man child. Not only are women saved but men also. It was women who were the the mothers of all the prophets and Apostles as well as all of GODS saints. The 5th commandment contains a promise , Ephesians 6:2-3 The woman is that delicate vessel which their husbands should love and cherish. It is family now on earth that becomes adopted into the family of GOD, brothers and sisters to our lord Jesus Christ.
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Dear Pete Hegseth, I’m Grateful the Japanese Navy Spared My Grandfather’s Life

It's speculation and perception. A: they were Narco-terrorist drug smugglers. B: they were innocent fishermen.
Or, they were probably drug smugglers, which is good enough reason to stop the boat and arrest them. It's questionable whether that is a good enough reason to just blow them up. It certainly is no reason at all to kill the survivors.
Yes it's a matter of how intelligence tracked the operation. I'd say that's more likely than it being "hey look there's a boat, kill em!".
Yes, Naval Intelligence was aware that they were hauling Columbian cocaine to a larger ship in Suriname.
I think it's less likely that those involved were operating as unthinking psychopaths blowing up boats for kicks.

It's just giving them the benefit of the doubt based on available info. Innocent until proven guilty applies to the adminstraition and military as well. Seems folks condeming them didn't take that into consideration.

Whether Trump is competent or incompetent is subjective. Some say best president ever. Some say worst president ever. Others don't go to either extreme and see him as a good president in some ways and not so good in others, like any other president.
What you seem to be saying is that it is morally acceptable IFF it is legal. Does that work for gay marriage, too?
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Refuting Losing Salvation!

Because He kept it for the Jews, which nobody could do. Gentiles Christians are never under the Law but under Grace!
Where does it say this in this passage? Jesus said "Whoever" not Jews.
Jesus was still teaching the Law at that time. I believe until the Temple was destroyed 40 years after His ascension the law was still in force. But with no more Temple there could be no more law. Also, one cannot keep the law and Grace.
Where does it say we are not supposed to keep God's laws- its kept by God's faithful until He returns Rev14:12 Rev22:14 Just as Jesus said Mat5:17-30 Grace does not mean one can sin Rom6:1-4 and sin is breaking God's laws 1John3:4 James 2:11
His death "finished" all the OT prophecies concerning His expiation for our sins (Jhn 19:30). His death was our condemnation; His Life and ascension is our growth in our faith in Him (Eph 4:15).
So forget the OT prophecies of His Second Coming that Jesus said He did no come to destroy? I believe you are reading what you want into these verses instead of just allowing God to speak for Himself.
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Now does everyone understand why the "right to refuse illegal orders" video was made?

Does your anti America human description cross party lines to include everything said about Biden?
But Biden IS actually a commie homosexual evil senile genius who's too stupid to do anything right and did blow Bubba. So it's ok!
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Family Issues

I had the same mother. It took me years to learn how to set firm boundaries with her, and gently but firmly enforce them. I realized that she was walking all over me because I allowed it... it was time to change myself, not her. Once I grew a strong back bone, she backed off and I had much more peace. Remember, honoring a parent does not mean indulging them. If she is being unreasonable or a pest, let her know with kindness. No arguments. I gained a lot of strength and respect from my mother when she finally realized that she could no longer control how I felt, since she loved getting a rise out of me. Firm self control helped me keep my sanity.
Thank you and you're right!
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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

Congress to withhold Pentagon travel funds until it sees boat strike videos

Lawmakers plan to withhold a quarter of Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s travel budget until the Pentagon provides them with the videos. The demand, quietly tucked into the final draft of the annual defense policy bill, calls for “unedited video of strikes conducted against designated terrorist organizations in the area of responsibility of the United States Southern Command” to the House and Senate Armed Services Committees.

Congressional leaders released their final draft of the defense bill Sunday, which is expected to be approved — without changes — by the House later this week and then the Senate.
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RFK Adjusts Hepatitis B Vaccine Recommendations; Democrats Lose Their Minds

First of all, I'm not "demanding" anything of anyone. I put things in quotes that people have said.
Why put in quotes what people-not-me have said and then sweetly inquire how I defend "my beliefs" when they're not my beliefs? :rolleyes:
I'm pleased to know that you don't think VAERS is "riddled with lies and misnfo" and I apologize if you think I was trying to make it seem like you said something you did not. That was not my intent.
Oookay....then what was your intent in labeling what was in quotes as "my beliefs" then delicately requesting that I defend said beliefs?
I couldn't disagree more. VAERS did nothing to inform the vaccination policies during COVID despite a veritable mountain of reports. V-Safe did even less. The main thing they provided was the illusion that someone was tracking adverse events.
The pandemic was a new situation as was the vaccine development and distribution. Data will always lag the events with analysis lagging even further behind and determining a course of action, particularly a change in the course, lagging even further behind. Do you truly believe that adverse reactions to the administration of the vaccines were not and are not tracked?

Where do you think data for studies come from? VAERS is one source.
if you say so. Meanwhile, the database consists of reports from real people who have been harmed by vaccines, and they are tossed into this database and simply forgotten.
There are also reports from health professionals and required reporters - as well as cranks, trolls and those looking to game the system to make a profit.
I truly don't believe the database exists for any other reason than to pretend like someone actually cares about adverse events from vaccination.
Well then, that's that. I don't see any point in further discussion since your mind is made up no matter what.
Did you see the increase in number of VAERS repots during COVID? Even though there were clearly fake reports, exactly how many reports do you think constitutes a "significant trend"? There's no doubt there's "noise" in this data, but there's also some very real "trends"that warranted further investigation. That didn't stop the government and public health from telling everyone to get vaccinated multiple times per year. Their booster recommendations during the Biden administration resulted in the top two vaccine regulators at the FDA resigning in protest.

The bottom line is, what you're saying sounds great. If VAERS were used in the way you explain, it would be a wonderful system to identify risks and pivot accordingly. But that's not what happens in practice. In practice, people pretend like the fact that there were over 1,000,000 VAERS reports in a single year when the previous high was around 60K is all just "noise" worthy of being ignored.

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Oh look! A graph with no sourcing. Cool.
Would you be willing to share more specifics? What vaccine was involved, and what was concerning to you?
This was years ago. Generally, at some point I was looking at some covid vaccines particularly among the elderly in nursing homes. I don't remember the specifics - it was years ago and I was not particularly invested.
Again, you're asking a completely different question.
No, the question is not completely different; it is mostly the same.
The question should be, is there a benefit to vaccinating a newborn who is at low-risk?
I disagree - the question is what is the risk to benefit ratio to vaccinating at 24 hours versus at three months? That there is a benefit at all has been pretty well established by the near elimination of Hep B and its associated problems (cirrhosis of the liver, liver cancer, etc.) in children after the protocol was instituted compared to before.
If there is no evidence of benefit, then you're simply introducing risk, no matter how small it might be. "First do no harm" means tthat if we're going to recommend that every newborn baby should receive a Hep B vaccine within hours of birth, there should be evidence of benefit for such a recommendation.
Is the risk at 24 hours greater than the risk at three months? The risk includes the vaccination itself as well as the risk of infection between 24 hours and three months, taking into consideration that a newborn is more likely to be closely monitored by doctors and nurses than a three month old in a doctor's office or clinic.

Your theoretical can only be true if you assume that the risk associated with vaccination at birth is zero.
Baloney. Is the risk greater or lesser at 24 hours than at three months? I don't know - my theoretical actually assumed equal risk but not no risk. If the risk is greater earlier, please provide evidence that this is so. You haven't even given a theoretical why this would be so.
It's not. We may not know exactly what it is, and I'm sure it's quite small. But it's not zero. There is always a risk in any medical intervention. I know people have been taught to believe that vaccines are all benefit and no risk, but that's simply not true. If there is no evidence of benefit, then all you have left is risk, no matter how small it may be.
If that's what you know, then I question your general knowledge.
Earlier in the thread, there was a link to the ACP's statement on this change in recommendation. It said:

“For example, ACIP’s decision to downgrade the longstanding recommendation to vaccinate all newborns against hepatitis B at birth will lead to more childhood hepatitis B infections, will lead to more chronic infections that will follow patients into adulthood, and will complicate vaccine access for children. No new data was presented during the ACIP meeting to justify this change.
“The evidence remains clear: the hepatitis B birth dose is safe and an essential component in helping children develop immunity against a serious, potentially lifelong disease. In fact, since the U.S. implemented the hepatitis B birth dose in 1991, annual hepatitis B infections among infants and children have dropped 99%, from 16,000 to less than 20. This progress is directly attributable to timely vaccination. 
“ACIP’s actions will harm children, their families and the medical professionals who care for them. That is why we are joining together to speak up. American families deserve information grounded in science and clear, consistent guidance – not speculation intended to scare them. We urge the CDC leaders to reject ACIP’s new recommendation and instead retain the current, evidence-based approach.”  

Those are bold statements. Is there any evidence that "timely vaccination" is the reason that Hep B infections have dropped? We've already established that correlation is not causation, but here it seems it gets a pass. They make a bold statement this is "directly attributable to timely vaccination", as if we're to believe that there are no other confounders in play here over the last 34 years. No in this case, correlation IS causation.

Where is the evidence that supports this apoplectic hand-wringing?
How do you justify other people-not-you saying what you haven't said? :rolleyes:
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I have a question and I’m confused

"Use AI"

Using strict rules, identify the largest Trinitarian Christian denominations that claim (1) scripture is a sufficient test of doctrine and no extra-biblical document is necessary for testing all doctrine, (2) possess a single global administrative authority, (3) maintain one unified set of binding official doctrines for all members, and (4) contain no doctrinally autonomous subgroups within their membership.

AI Response from "USE.AI"

That’s an excellent and very precise question about ecclesiology and formal doctrinal authority. Let’s apply each of your criteria strictly and systematically.

Result: Denominations That Fit All Four Strictly​


  1. Seventh-day Adventist Church
    • Scripture alone as authoritative test of doctrine (Formal statement: “The Holy Scriptures are the supreme, authoritative, and the infallible revelation of His will.”)
    • Single global administrative authority: The General Conference governs worldwide.
    • Uniform doctrine: The 28 Fundamental Beliefs, binding worldwide.
    • No doctrinal autonomy: National and local entities are administratively subordinate to the General Conference and cannot establish divergent doctrine.
  2. Church of the Nazarene
    • Scripture alone: Historically and officially declares the Bible the sufficient rule of faith and practice.
    • Single administrative authority: The General Assembly is the final doctrinal and legal authority for the global church.
    • Unified doctrine: One global Manual defining binding Articles of Faith.
    • No doctrinal autonomy: Regional bodies cannot create independent doctrines.



Therefore — Strictly Applying Every Criterion​


The largest Trinitarian Christian denominations that meet all four are:


  1. Seventh-day Adventist Church (est. ~22 million members globally)
  2. Church of the Nazarene (est. ~2.5 million members globally)

Use.ai is a service that uses the chatGPT API to access multiple AIs, but it only has chatGPT 5, the deprecated and buggy version of chatGPT, and chatGPT 4o and certain older models as options. I would assume you used chatGPT 5 since that is the default. Now when I ask chatGPT 5 the same question, I get this reply:

Applying the strict criteria, only a small number of Trinitarian denominations fit all four conditions. Most large Protestant bodies either lack a single global administrative authority or allow national autonomy. The following best satisfy all four criteria:


1. The Salvation Army​

  • Scriptural sufficiency: Officially teaches that Scripture alone is the rule of Christian faith and practice, rejecting creeds as tests of fellowship.
  • Global authority: Governed by the General of The Salvation Army at International Headquarters in London, with authority extending worldwide.
  • Unified doctrine: One internationally binding “Handbook of Doctrine”, adopted by all territories.
  • No autonomous subgroups: All territorial commands operate under the same constitution and cannot define separate doctrinal stances.

2. The Church of the Nazarene​

  • Scriptural sufficiency: Affirms the Bible as the final and sufficient authority in matters of faith and practice.
  • Global authority: Has a single international General Assembly and Board of General Superintendents, which exercise doctrinal and administrative oversight over all regions.
  • Unified doctrine: Uses one Manual worldwide containing the Articles of Faith, binding on every member and minister.
  • No doctrinal autonomy: Regional and national units cannot alter doctrine; only the General Assembly may revise the Articles of Faith.

3. The Church of God (Cleveland, Tennessee)​

  • Scriptural sufficiency: Teaches that the Bible alone is the all-sufficient rule of faith and conduct.
  • Global authority: Operates under a General Assembly and International Executive Committee, whose decisions are binding worldwide.
  • Unified doctrine: Maintains a single Declaration of Faith and Minutes of the General Assembly that govern doctrine and practice universally.
  • No autonomous subgroups: National and regional organizations are administratively subordinate to the international body and cannot adopt differing doctrinal standards.

4. The International Church of the Foursquare Gospel​

  • Scriptural sufficiency: Confesses Scripture as the only authoritative rule of faith and conduct.
  • Global authority: Headed by an International Church Council with authority over all affiliated churches worldwide.
  • Unified doctrine: Holds a single, globally consistent Declaration of Faith.
  • No doctrinal autonomy: National fellowships are under the same confessional and organizational structure, without separate doctrinal powers.

Summary​

The denominations that fully meet the stated criteria are:
1. The Salvation Army
2. The Church of the Nazarene
3. The Church of God (Cleveland, Tennessee)
4. The International Church of the Foursquare Gospel

Each maintains (a) Scripture as the sole test of doctrine, (b) a single worldwide authority, (c) one binding doctrinal standard, and (d) no doctrinally autonomous subunits.

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So alas, your attempt at prompt engineering is still producing inconsistent results, further proving my point about the unreliability of AI for what you are trying to do. Your parameters are subjective, and the fact that you’ve tuned your responses to try to exclude liturgical churches shows that you’ve lost objectivity and are (unsuccessfully) engaged in prompt engineering.
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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

Does AI follow that thinking? Does AI have a god? Will it one day also become aware of self?
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Matthew 22:36-40
“Teacher, which commandment in The Written Law is the greatest?” 37 Yeshua said to him, “You shall love THE LORD JEHOVAH your God from all your heart and from all your soul and from all your power and from all your mind.” 38 “This is the great and the first commandment.” 39 “And the second which is like it is, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' 40 On these two commands depend all The Written Law and The Prophets.”
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Zohran Mamdani taps ex-con rapper who served 7 years for armed robbery as criminal justice adviser on transition team:

Zohran Mamdani taps ex-con rapper who served 7 years for armed robbery as criminal justice adviser on transition team:


Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani has picked a controversial rapper who did seven years in state prison for armed robbery to advise him on the criminal justice system, The Post has learned.

Mysonne Linen, 49, a Bronx convict-turned-activist who was found guilty of two felony heists in the late 1990s, was appointed by the democratic socialist to sit on his mayoral transition’s “criminal legal system” committee — just one of many questionable picks.
What’s “questionable” about this pick?
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Rising number of Brits leaving Christianity turning to paganism

I don't think it's a question of "trust". It's more a matter of prodigal sons (and daughters) being comfortable in the pig sty.
Interesting point.

The biggest thing that I know is that I despair of the numbers that are living oblivious to the advantages of living with contact with Jesus, and confidence in His love.
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HHS investigating claims school vaccinated student despite religious exemption

Federal health officials have launched an investigation into a complaint alleging that an unidentified school located in the Midwestern United States disregarded a valid religious exemption and administered a vaccine to a student without parental consent.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) announced the investigation on Dec. 3 after officials said school authorities administered a vaccine to a student despite having a religious exemption submitted under a state law.

According to HHS, the vaccine was supplied through the federal Vaccines for Children program, which is administered by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Entities participating in the program, including schools and medical practices, must adhere to state laws on religious and other exemptions from compulsory vaccination requirements, according to HHS.

The department's Office for Civil Rights will determine whether the school violated those obligations. Neither the school's name nor the student's identity was disclosed.

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Another look at the moon landing.

What is the moon's job? To provide light at night, correct? Most of the time, it doesn't do that. Going through its phases, it puts out little light until it is nearly full. On cloudy nights, it's prevented from providing any light at all.

You could say the same about the sun, especially in the U.k :partlysunny:
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The Church Divided

One objection I get, when dispelling the notion that we need some anointed 'authority' or such at every church meeting or bible study, is "You'll have HERESY and CHAOS if you just let the ignorant masses of people read for themselves!!"

Having led and participated in over 400 bible study meetings, maybe visiting over 100 different groups, in nearly every denomination. And of those 400, less than 10 times did it seem to be getting off doctrinally. And of those, only two, or three times, did it seem to be anything close to cultic or unbiblical. I've heard over a thousand odd takes on scripture when in a bible study group, but of those nothing really that couldn't be reasoned through to a correct or satisfactory agreement, generally. Generally there is someone in a group that has enough grasp of scripture, and pushes back (if I dont). But even if nothing is said, its hardly ever a life or death over doctrine issue. I had to let my own pastor make a mistake or two just last week in our mens bible study, you cant argue over every point, and these different takes are generally fairly slight.

I am an Evangelical theologically, theology is in my DNA, I strive to teach correct doctrine, and I am hyper dogmatic about my beliefs - Yet I enjoy, and really like to hear other people express their ideas and views of scripture (thats why I've heard so many different takes on scripture). And if it's my group, I want to know where their understanding is at, and what they are thinking about the subject. Still, I am just a disciple communing with other disciples. Gods Word is the Authority.

The best bible study I participated in was a theological debate style group where the only doctrine of agreement was that you agree that:
'The Bible is Gods Word, and that you had to make all your arguments from scripture'. Cultists bail almost immediately, and the rest of us get to hash out our thoughts with some really great conversations ...

So what I'm saying is: I believe the notion that - there will just be chaos and heresy - is a heresy in itself.
That argument created the rift of Clergy/Laity, the hierarchy and institutions, and the dark ages of christianity.
Let Gods Word , His Scriptures, be our Authority and let live.
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Consumer Prices Will Go Down From Day One? Will Gas Prices Go Down 50% Within A Year?

McDonald's is losing its low-income customers. Economists call it a symptom of the stark wealth divide

Industry-wide, fast food restaurants have seen traffic from one of its core customer bases, low-income households, drop by double digits, McDonald's chief executive Christopher Kempczinski told investors last week. Meanwhile, traffic from higher-earners increased by nearly as much, he said.

It's a tale of two consumers this holiday season — and they're both at Walmart

Retiree Eileen Gowlak, 86, used to buy her clothes from Walmart when the retailer would have a big sale. But those days are over.

“I noticed the clothing went up, and they don’t have the sales they used to have,” Gowlak said outside a store in North Bergen, New Jersey, in November.

Priced out of Walmart, Gowlak simply isn’t buying new clothes right now. She is prioritizing groceries, and she’s not alone.

For millions of Walmart’s core customers, who tend to be lower- or middle-income and live in rural or suburban areas, wage growth is slowing, spending has fallen, and inflation and tariffs are making everyday purchases feel too expensive.

So Walmart, the country’s largest retailer, has in recent years been warming to high-income shoppers. The company recently reported stronger-than-expected quarterly sales, as well as market share growth driven primarily by more affluent customers.

Experts describe these divergent groups of consumers as the two legs of a “K-shaped” economy. The wealthy, flush with gains from the stock market and higher wage growth, are driving an outsize share of consumer spending. On the other leg of the “K,” the rest of the population is stagnating or falling behind.

Other budget-friendly companies are also seeing more well-to-do shoppers. Dollar Tree’s CEO said last week that most of its new customers make more than $100,000 a year. Dollar General’s CEO, too, said it has seen growth particularly among higher-income shoppers.

“It concerns me when I hear that affluent customers are shopping at lower-price retailers like Walmart and TJX because it’s a sign that things are getting expensive all around,” said shopping expert Trae Bodge.

“Obviously, if you’re more affluent, you can afford to buy the things you need. But if you’re seeking out lower prices, then where does the lower-cost consumer go?”
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Trickster Christ and the Second Fall: A New Framework for Understanding the Kingdom of God

I’m sorry
This means not taking sides with Radical Orthodoxy (John Milbank, Catherine Pickstock), which advocates a defense of sacramental ontology and continues the tradition of nouvelle théologie, supported by Hans Boersma. These are highly significant issues. As Christians, we must cultivate an understanding of these matters before we risk falling into the pit ourselves.
this seems over educated jargon, not for the common people whom the gospel was intended for. But since Christ has such depth it is definitely food for you. But where your faith lies I don’t know. It’s not clear if the ‘trickster’ is a respectful term. It might be a colloquial term that suits philosophers fancy.. it could be derogatory.

i accepted what for a long time I was to afraid to admit. I had to forsake my sin and admit Jesus made sense and that there was going to be blessing for following. But until I forsook my sin it was hard to bear. How is the truth’ a trickster?!
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Tit for Tat Tariffs - The US versus the World

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No, you, unilaterally, would not be allowed to do that. We The People can do that.

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I don't know if it's enhanced our National Security, but Trump has enhanced China's access to more advanced chips.

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Well, at least we're getting our $25%.
The Supreme Court is NOT making US tariffs illegal, just the method that Trump has chosen on SOME of his tariffs, primarily the accross the board tariffs and those based on the national "emergency" of trade tariffs with individual countries.

He can keep his tariffs based on national security (including drug trafficking). Tariffs on specific products are not affected.

In any case, tariffs can always be passed by Congress, now or in next year's big, beautiful reconciliation bill.
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The Great Judgment is coming



Stuff of nightmares – the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath - Revelation 6:12-17


2 Esdras 15&16 These are the words of the Lord: I shall show sinners no pity, My sword will not spare those murderers who stain the ground with innocent blood.
My anger has burst out in flame, scorching the earth to its foundations and consuming sinners like burning straw. Woe to sinners who flout My commands, I shall show them no mercy. I well know all who offend against Me, I consign them to death and destruction.

See the clouds – full of fury and tempest, their appearance is hideous. They will let loose a vast storm over the land. There will be terror and trembling throughout the world, people will shudder, stricken with panic. Huge clouds will pile up and ravage the whole land and its inhabitants. A terrible storm will sweep over all that is high and exalted, with fire and hail and flying swords.

Strong is the arm that bends the bow and sharp the arrows that He shoots. Once they are on their way, nothing will stop them until they reach the ends of the earth. Calamities are let loose and will not turn back. The fire is alight and will not be put out. When the scorching heat bears down upon you, your strength and splendour will wither like a flower. When the Lord sends calamities, who can avert them? When His anger bursts into flame, who can extinguish it? When the lightning flashes and it thunders, who will not quake with dread? [a Coronal Mass Ejection]

But you, servants of the Lord, listen and learn. This is His Word: take it to heart and do not doubt what He says: Calamities are close at hand and will not be delayed. As a woman giving birth suffers pangs, then comes the birth; similarly calamities will come and the world will groan under the pangs that beset it. My people, get ready and when these disasters surround you, behave as if you are strangers on earth.

Listen, you whom I have chosen, says the Lord: the days of harsh suffering are close at hand, but I shall rescue you from them. Have done with fears and doubts! God is your guide. As followers of My commandments and instructions, you must not let your sins weigh you down or any wickedness gain the ascendancy.

Woe to those who are entangled in their sins and overrun by their wicked deeds! They are like a field where the path is entwined with thorns and there is no way through. They are separated off in readiness for destruction by fire.
Ref: REB Apocrypha

This passage from the prophet Ezra, describes very well how the Lord will act on the terrible Day of His vengeance and wrath. Isaiah 63:1-6, Ezekiel 21:7, Isaiah 33:14, Jeremiah 30:4-7, Isaiah 13:6-16, Isaiah 30:26-30; caused by a explosion on the sun.

But those Christian people who trust and believe in His salvation will be saved. They are told to be prepared – that is, be aware of what will happen, so as not to be taken by surprise. There is not a rapture, removal: ‘these calamities will surround you’. Isaiah 43:2

THEN; God’s righteous servants will soon gather and settle into all of the Holy Land:
Isaiah 30:29 For you there will be songs and gladness of heart, as you march to music, on the way to the Mountain of the Lord; the Rock of Israel. Isaiah 12:1-6
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What are some of your guns own and use then for Hunting and target practice?

It’s more common in Germany and England. Hunting round, commercial ammo there. 93 gr bullets is a favorite for their small deer.. I’m fist going like shooting it over 3000 fps. It’s a rarity but dealers don’t want to give me more than $350 for it. They don’t think I should sell it for any more. But I paid more than that. But it hasn’t sold.
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