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Am I Weird, Or Is He Weird?

I think yours is a possibility worth considering. It was a thought I had, also, that it could be that the priest is wanting to maintain 'boundary' lines between his family life and his life at the church as a priest.

Having worked in a church ... been married once into a ministry family ... I have some insight into how some ministers, and minister's families, see the need to put alittle 'space' between themselves and those they minister to. Not easy to do, if the minister is a caring type of person (or a workaholic), but if some lines aren't drawn, the minister can quickly become completely absorbed in his ministry life, and often at the expense of his personal family life.
I hate to put it this way, but he's always been very friendly and apparently doesn't see boundaries when he contacts me to help him with some kind of manual labor, which I've always agreed to do.
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God's Divine Protection Of The Church During The Tribulation

The very thing described in Matthew and Mark as the AoD Luke identifies as the Roman Army of Jesus' time. That would begin a period of "Great Tribulation" for the Jewish People, lasting from the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD up until the end of the NT age.
The audience spoken to in Luke 21 is the future church who will lift their heads up and be eyewitnesses of the Lord's second coming, future events unfulfilled

Jesus didn't return in the second coming in 70AD, it's that simple your preterist claims fall

Luke 21:25-28KJV
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
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The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

You nullify the old covenant that the new testament refers to as basis, Jesus has basis for our trust with the prophecies of him being fulfilled. It is not the same without it. There was no argument against the new covenant, why try making an argument?
Do you realize that the apostolic teaching (Heb 8:13) of Christ (Lk 10:16) is that the Old Covenant is obsolete?
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Why I might suspect there`s a god

Scientists explain a great deal and they do this following exhaustive investigations and observations and experiments and reasoning and argument and critical thinking. And they review their investigations, refine their observations, repeat their experiments, justify their reasoning, dissect their arguments and question all their assumptions and speculations and provisional conclusions. Then, and only then, may they be in a position of having a theory.

Yup.

That's how we got Thalidomide.
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Causing offence

Offense can go both ways, some are just too easily offended as well.
I agree with you and it seems no more apparent than here with some of responses. A simple non-confrontational statement was presented for this post's topic and bam, you'd swear the sky was falling in on us from the responses. We all have our way of "bringing the gospel to others". You ever know who may be reading your reactions, you may be influencing them or you may be disgusting them. There have been some pretty sharp tongued saints in the Church who were talking to thousands of people. Not that I disagree so much as actions speak louder than words. Love and mercy toward our fellow people is the best way to go.

If people get offended by truth, it's really their problem. For example, if someone is offended if I tell them their adultery is a sin and wrong...that's their problem really. They are offended by the truth.
Yes, of course overall try to be kind to people when sharing the truth, but even if one says the truth in the kindest way possible, some will still get offended by the truth.

I second that Pepperdoodle and knowing this helps:

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Pope Leo says faith and love for migrants are connected

And that is the category you place yourself?
Or why else do you want compassion?
I'm not asking for compassion for me. I'm asking people to put on their tie-dyes and sandals, and to take walks in open grassy fields, and thank the Lord for all He's given us in this life. Be compassionate to everyone you meet, and think nice on Donald Trump, ICE, and everyone else all at once. Be good people. That's all.
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Maine elects woman convicted of killing Canadian tourist to city council: ‘So broken’

...because many so-called "Christians" don't believe in clemency (or mercy, forginvess and Jesus...apparently)
Nonsense. The biggest charities in the world are Christian and prison ministries are very common. A very large number of churches have food pantries and run soup kitchens.
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Vatican stops use of titles for Mary

Could mean a 50-50 equal manager. But we Catholics aren't pretending Mary is anything other than a derivative power in anything. So you can go ahead and try to force your understanding on something where it does not apply. Or try to understand it as used by actual Catholic theology. It's up to you. You do have that theology degree after all.
I'm only quoting what the Vatican said and the pope agreed with. I figured they would actually know actual Roman Catholic Theology - especially since the Author is DDF prefect Cardinal Víctor Manuel Fernández and authorized by the Pope.

Seems your issue is with them.

I actually read Mater Populi Fidelis and linked to the actual document. I encourage you to read what is says.
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BUSTED - 12 False theories refuted:

But the New Testament specifically says He will come like a thief in the night - your argument that He will not be seen contradicts that.
And the point of a "thief in the night" is that they wouldn't see Him coming, they would see that He has taken their kingdom from them. Reiterated in a different way here: Luke 17:20,21.
But as to visions, Jude tells us that the faith was once and for all delivered to the saints. No more revelation is coming. It also means that those to whom scripture was written had no idea what eschatology was talking about until these modern day soothsayers came along. We can see what Daniel was told when he didn't understand: "Daniel 12:4But you, Daniel, shut up these words and seal the book until the time of the end. Many will roam to and fro, and knowledge will increase.” Whereas in Rev22 there is no sealing of the book until the time of the end, instead it says:10Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of prophecy in this book, because the time is near.
This tells us how God would keep His secrets and then let them know when the time was near. And we know there is nothing more to be revealed for according to Jude. So, if one doesn't know when He would come, they never will.
Amos 3:
7“For the Lord God does nothing
without revealing his secret
to his servants the prophets.
8The lion has roared;
who will not fear?
The Lord God has spoken;
who can but prophesy?”
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Democrats shut down government


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Lets think about this. Why would a shutdown result in Democrats victories if Democrats were holding voters hostage?

Oh I know! Because people want the ACA subsidies.

You can't take people hostage if the people are voting for you so that you will block the CR.

Of the top 10 countries in the world with the most affordable and high quality health insurance, all of them have government subsidized and mostly universal healthcare.

And until the Republican party can present its own model to compete with Obamacare, they won't be able to win the people on this topic.
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The Mandami effect

You have no policy to reference and are only assuming things could get worse—Got it!
My comment was based on you saying "The rest may be possible, but would require two or three years, so significant change in NYC seems unlikely", and nothing more. Why is someone living in Wisconsin so uptight over what someone else might think about the mayor of NYC? And why would someone living in Seattle be up to speed on the polices of the mayor of NYC?
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Newsome pushed back against Democracy to achieve his political goals

LOS ANGELES (AP) — California Gov. Gavin Newsom, eager to raise his national profile as a Democrat willing to aggressively confront President Donald Trump, scored a campaign victory that may help his party in the midterms as he moves toward a White House run.
He is also aggressively seeking 1.2 million dollars from a California church . Over covid violations. Will that help his national profile? Voters open your eyes!
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Trumps interactions with global leaders

Since January 2025, President Donald Trump has met with at least 15 foreign leaders during his second term, based on available information from various sources. Below is a detailed breakdown of these meetings, focusing on confirmed interactions with heads of state, government leaders, or their representatives:

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu - Met on February 4, 2025, at the White House to discuss Gaza, ceasefire agreements, and U.S. sanctions on the International Criminal Court.

Japanese Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba - Met on February 7, 2025, at the White House, focusing on regional security (China, North Korea, Taiwan, South China Sea), the Quad alliance, and U.S. LNG exports to Japan.

Jordan’s King Abdullah II - Met on February 11, 2025, at the White House, discussing Gaza and Palestinian issues, with Trump proposing controversial plans for Gaza's redevelopment.

In addition:
  1. Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi - Met on February 13, 2025, at the White House, discussing trade, tariffs, migration, energy cooperation, and the Quad alliance.
  2. Irish Taoiseach Micheál Martin - Met on March 12, 2025, at the White House, discussing U.S.-Ireland relations and trade, with Trump criticizing Ireland’s tax policies.
  3. Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni - Met on April 17, 2025, at the White House, discussing U.S.-EU trade and extending an invitation for Trump to visit Italy.
  4. Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre - Met on April 24, 2025, at the White House for a bilateral lunch and Oval Office meeting on trade and other matters.
  5. South African President Cyril Ramaphosa - Met in May 2025 at the White House, where Trump confronted him with articles about alleged violence against white farmers.
  6. Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney - Met in May or June 2025 at the White House, with discussions marked by tense exchanges.
  7. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy - Met on February 28, 2025, at the White House in a contentious Oval Office meeting, and again on August 18, 2025, with European leaders to discuss the Russia-Ukraine conflict.
  8. Russian President Vladimir Putin - Met in August 2025, prior to the August 18 White House summit with Zelenskyy and European leaders, to discuss the Russia-Ukraine conflict.
  9. Finnish President Alexander Stubb - Met on August 18, 2025, at the White House as part of the summit with Zelenskyy and other European leaders, noted for his close relationship with Trump.
  10. British Prime Minister Keir Starmer - Met on August 18, 2025, at the White House during the summit, discussing security guarantees for Ukraine.
  11. French President Emmanuel Macron - Met on August 18, 2025, at the White House during the summit, emphasizing the need for a ceasefire in Ukraine.
  12. NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte - Met on August 18, 2025, at the White House as part of the summit, noted for his ability to engage with Trump.

Additional Notes:​

  • Multilateral Meetings: The August 18, 2025, White House summit included multiple European leaders, but only those explicitly named (Zelenskyy, Stubb, Starmer, Macron, and Rutte) are counted here to avoid duplication. Other leaders may have been present but are not specifically identified in the sources.
  • Pre-Inauguration Meetings: Some sources mention meetings before January 20, 2025 (e.g., with Polish President Andrzej Duda, British Foreign Secretary David Cameron, or Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman), but these are excluded as they occurred before Trump’s second term began.
  • International Trips: Trump has made 5 international trips to 8 countries (Canada, Italy, the Netherlands, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom, and Vatican City) since January 2025, which likely involved additional meetings with foreign leaders, but specific leaders are not always named.
  • Sources: The count is based on reports from reputable outlets like CNN, The New York Times, The Washington Post, and Wikipedia, cross-referenced for accuracy.

And today he hosts the President of Poland.​

Combine that with brokering seven cease fires/peace deals in as many different nations.

This has to be some type of record for a President interacting internationally.

An isolationist he sure isn't
It certainly wouldn't be a record. Obama was criticized, by Republicans, for meeting with so many world leaders after being elected in 2008, as he worked to catch up relations after the Bush years.

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The Thing Most Sabbath Keepers Do not Talk About.

What would it matter what I post in reference to me when you are not even addressing or can't address the most basic things posted to you in reference to the Greek?
Because you have not addressed my post 502. After all it is suppose to be a two way conversation.
Lol Certificates, Diplomas and Degrees? I have my friend, but they are paper for display on a wall. More aptly though in a box.
Any one of them that make you a Greek scholar?
Man's wisdom is foolishness. Spiritual things are Spiritually discerned.
Naturally.
What good did it do the learned, when Jesus was here?
If you are going to argue hermeneutics and epistemology it would be nice to understand the finer points.
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Mass celebrated again at ancient St. Maron’s Shrine in Syria after 15-year silence

For the first time in over 15 years, the Maronite Church in Syria celebrated a solemn Mass at the ancient shrine of St. Maron in the village of Brad, northwest of Aleppo.

A pilgrimage to the site, organized by the Maronite Scouts, drew more than 80 participants, young and old, reviving one of the most sacred Christian sites in the region known as the “Dead Cities.”

Father Ghandi Mahanna, who led the liturgy, reminded worshippers that “the true presence of God is found in every human heart,” urging them to live faith through love.

The group also visited the nearby ruins of St. Simeon the Stylite’s Church and the cave chapel once home to the hermit Toufic Ajib, which suffered partial damage during the war.

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Pope Leo XIV: Build the Church on the solid foundations of Christ, not on worldly criteria

At the Basilica of St. John Lateran on Sunday, Pope Leo XIV urged Christians to build the Church on “solid foundations” rooted in Christ rather than on “worldly criteria” that demand immediate results and overlook the value of patience and humility.

Celebrating Mass for the solemnity of the Dedication of the Lateran Basilica — the cathedral of the bishop of Rome and the oldest church in the city — the pope reflected in his homily on the meaning of this feast and on the Church as a living temple built of “living stones.”

“The millennial history of the Church teaches us that with God’s help, a true community of faith can only be built with humility and patience,” he said. “Such a community is capable of spreading charity, promoting mission, proclaiming, celebrating, and serving the apostolic magisterium of which this temple is the first seat.”

The pope drew on the image of the basilica’s physical foundations to speak about the spiritual foundations of the Church. “If the builders had not dug deep enough to find a solid base on which to construct the rest, the entire building would have collapsed long ago,” he said. “As laborers in the living Church, we too must first dig deep within ourselves and around ourselves before we can build impressive structures. We must remove any unstable material that would prevent us from reaching the solid rock of Christ.”


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Are professed Christians that worship our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday sinning?

Hey there SB! It is about the Book of the Law which circumcision is in not Justifying anyone.
Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed [is] every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

Because we are justified through faith. The Faith that is availed to us through Christ. The faith that Abraham had that established the Law. For God has said,
Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
Gal 2:3 is about circumcision which is part of the book of the law that Moses wrote that was placed besides the ark of the covenant Deut31:24-26. The Jews were requiring new Gentile converts to be circumcised to hear the gospel Gal 2:3 and in order to be saved Acts 15:1. This is what Paul was constantly correcting that they could save themselves apart from Jesus, which we know was never the role of circumcision or any law for that matter.

We are justified through faith agreed. :)

Those with faith do what our Lord and Savior asks. We are saved by grace through faith, our actions shows if our faith is genuine or not, like Abraham 26:5

Like Jesus taught

Luke 6:46But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say? 47 Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and does them, I will show you whom he is like: 48 He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock. And when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently against that house, and could not shake it, for it was [j]founded on the rock. 49 But he who heard and did nothing is like a man who built a house on the earth without a foundation, against which the stream beat vehemently; and immediately it [k]fell. And the ruin of that house was great.”
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What is the meaning of Total Depravity?

f already have, many times.
Prove it. . .assertion without demonstration is without merit.
There's nothing about imputed, at least as in personal righteousness not given; there's just righteousness-and unrighteousness- with concepts such as righteousness reckoned or charged, righteousness given, many made righteous...

To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law. (Ro 4:23). Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come.
Precisely. . .

The wages of sin is death (Ro 6:23).
Where there is no law, there is no sin (Ro 4:23) and, therefore no curse of death.
There was no law between Adam and Moses, and yet they all died anyway (Ro 5:14).
Of what sin did they die when no sin was charged against them.

Your answer?
(Feel free to exegete Ro 5:12-19 in agreement with the text, context and the rest of the NT).

Biblical answer:
They died of the imputed sin of Adam (Ro 5:17, 18-19), which imputed sin of Adam was the pattern (Ro 5:14) for the imputed righteosness of Christ.

In Ro 5:12-19, Paul is demonstrating the imputed sin of Adam to all mankind, where between Adam and Moses there was no sin because there was no law and no death for its violation, yet they all died anyway. . .because of the imputed sin of Adam (Ro 5:17, 18-19).
For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man,
Death reigned through Adam. . .through the accounting/charging of his sin to all those of Adam (Ro 5:14, 17, 18-19), which was the pattern (Ro 5:14) for the accounting/charging of Christ's righteousness to all those of Christ.
how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ! Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous. Rom 5:13-14, 17-19
Same with Phil 3:9, nothing about an imputed righteousness at all:
"...not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ—the righteousness that comes from God on the basis of faith."
The righteousness that comes from God (Ro 1:17, 3:21, 4:5) through faith in Christ is the imputed righteousness of Christ (Php 3:9), just as righteousness was imputed to Abraham through faith in the promise (Ge 5:5-6, Seed, Jesus Christ, Gal 3:16).
This is all about the gift of righteousness, as we become united with Him:
We are united with God through faith in Christ, wherein the righteousness of Christ is imputed to us (Php 3:9),
just as righteousness was imputed to Abraham through faith in the promise (Ge 15:5-6, Seed, Jesus Christ, Gal 3:16).
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Pardoned Jan. 6 defendant who fired gun at the Capitol arrested on kidnapping and aggravated sexual assault charges

Well that proves it. We all know what this means. This means that John Banuelos, 40, who is from Utah but whose sister lives in the Chicago area, was arrested “near 29th Street and Cicero Avenue in Cicero” on Oct. 17, according to the Cook County Sheriff’s Office. A warrant for his arrest was issued in Salt Lake County on Oct. 1 on charges of aggravated kidnapping and aggravated sexual assault, the Cook County Sheriff’s Office said.

Banuelos was previously identified in an NBC News story in February 2022, which revealed him as the man who shot off a weapon at the Capitol on Jan. 6.

Online “sedition hunters” correctly identified Banuelos, 40, and gave his name to the FBI in February 2021. Months later, on July 4, 2021, Banuelos stabbed a man — Christopher Thomas Senn — to death in Salt Lake City, but was not charged after claiming self-defense.
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