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The Trump DOJ goes "woke" and will target free speech.

From reading this post, I'd say you're a victim of propaganda because of sentiments like --> "In fact the democratic views on immigration, obsessiveness with cultural issues, and soft on crime stances, all progressive and far left stances, lost the party many votes in the last election".
I don’t fall for propaganda. If you think it is not true then argue the point.
I'm a centrist. My advice is that voters should not give much clout into one side's description of what the other side is all about. Typically, a candidates own words show us who they are and what's in their hearts and minds. @NxNW is correct; Democrats tend to lean left, and Republicans tend to lean right in this dichotomy --> Democracy/autocracy.
These days democrats seem to lean far left and republicans seem to lean far right. Communication is hardly possible.
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ABC pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live after comments on Charlie Kirk

The First Amendment begins with "Congress shall make no law." ABC isn't congress or government, Neither is CF, which enforces rules of behavior.
See post #104. The issue isn't that ABC chose to cancel his show after what he said. The issue is that ABC chose to cancel his show after the chairman of the FCC threatened them with legal action if they didn't.

How would you feel about the chairman of the FCC under Biden threatening Fox with fines and suspension of their broadcast license if they didn't fire their commentators who perpetuated the lies about the 2020 election?
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Transcript of Kirk's killer's messages has been revealed

One last time. It appears you are woefully uninformed or are dodging. Being transgender has nothing to do with being non-binary. So if a biological male is transgender, what gender does he have an affinity for?
To my understanding non-binary is transgender. If someone who at birth was assigned woman or man based on their sex are now saying they are not woman or man but non-binary, they would be transgender. What gender do you see a non-binary person as? I really don't understand your position. How I understand transgender they would be either, woman, non-binary or agender (assuming they would be have assigned as man).
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Famed feminist website Jezebel paid witches on Etsy to curse Charlie Kirk — 2 days before he was assassinated

The fascination of all things occult, esoteric, and supernatural from the high-ranking Nazis was actually super interesting because for a regime that was so knowledge driven, so regimented, so orderly, so attentive to perfection through logic and purity, they were heckin' obsessed with exploring every avenue of domination, which included a truly deep, deep dive into the occult. The rationale varies from "in all things we dominate, including that realm, which we will bend to our will" and Homer Simpson's prayer: "I'm not a praying man, but Jesus, Allah, Buddha, and Superman, if you're up there and you can hear me..."

If it's your jam, you should check it out. The juxtaposition of the rational logic with the crippling superstitiousness is a journey through the backend of what made the Nazi party so dangerously, unpredictably erratic, in a way not seen with, say, the Russians and the Japanese, who had layers of predictability given their sense of country over all (Russians) and Nationalistic traditions of honor and religion (Japan).

It's not in fact my jam, but the archaeologist and historian in me makes it enticing. Should I resist my philosophical desire to "know more....." ^_^

Hmmmmm..................

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I could, but I suspect I'd land in trouble. I'll just say that what this lady did is popular culture/Instagram witchcraft and the listing on Etsy seems very "here's my baloney pedigree of made up things that sound good to the general public... Give me your money." I maintain judging by the price, reviews, and listing, she took a picture, set a witchy stage using the picture, sent it, and called it a day, collecting $1.25 (after fees) for the trouble.
That's interesting. We can just end that line of discussion there then.
Why doom scroll fearing for disasters when you can doom historical facts and scientific research and see disasters repeat themselves over hundreds of years?

Exactly! I'm all about historical facts and scientific research, especially if one can learn to avoid certain outcomes. ;)
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Trump to designate antifa a 'major terrorist organization'

Antifa, if it exists at all, is a randomly and haphazardly assembled group of like minded persons in opposition to what they see as fascism. It is not an organization such as people meeting in the woods under white robes burning crosses and planning their next campaign and membership drive. Good luck trying to eradicate the resistance. I think it is just more empty rhetoric from the Oval office rallying the base. But there is plenty of room on the bandwagon for those who want to jump on.
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Eric Trump on Charlie Kirk’s Legacy and the Radical Left – “This Could Have Been the Greatest Mistake These People Have Ever Made” (VIDEO)

I don’t think attraction is a choice, but behavior is.
LGB sexual attraction not is a choice. Neither is being an arachnophobic. But in both situations, people become them after some sort of trauma, usually at a very young age.

Note: this study only discusses childhood sexual trauma in homosexuals. But there are numerous other childhood traumas like physical abuse and emotional neglect that contribute to a psychological shift leading to same sex attraction.
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What is currently on your mind?

A heads up concerning free speech,
malicious talk kills three people:
The speaker, the listener, and the one who is spoken of.
1-10 things to remind oneself of eachday include;
"Remember what God did to Miriam."
If all three are already dead, does it matter at all to those three ?

They might even all be religious?
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Alone and abandoned

If you find yourself continually recounting previous hurts or wrongs pray against the spirit of rejection and bitterness. They work together and you’ll find yourself on an endless cycle of highs and lows. Forgiveness is the other part and you have to lay down the anger. The more you dwell the more you’ll attract negative things. Cast the care and continue to do so until it ceases to come up.

~bella
Thank you, Bella :)
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DOJ Deletes Study Showing Domestic Terrorists Are Most Often Right Wing

I don't think Raz Simone was ever arrested for the Chaz/Chop thing (despite, him publishing his own video of him walking around armed, referring to himself as a racial justice warlord)

That ties in one of the aspects I mentioned...which is "unpunished violence not getting counted as violence". By that standard, the J6'ers don't count because they were pardoned.

If I light a cop car on fire and there's evidence of me doing it, but the city opts not to prosecute me for it or drops the charges (for whatever reason), I still "did the thing".


But to my other point (which I feel is the more important one)...

Left-wing actors engaging in actions that are considered to be a "Right-wing type of violence" (and it being tallied as such) is used to make broader implications about the "Democrats vs. Republicans: Who's more prone to violence?" debates, and in ways that may not be giving people an accurate picture about the full scope of things.

And pundits are leveraging that "Right = Republican; Left = Democrat" contemporary interpretation (and the assumptions that go along with that) to promote a certain narrative.


As you noted in your example, if a Black guy kills a White guy for racial reasons, race-motivated murder is categorized as a "right wing form of extremism". If that happened 10 times in a week. And it got reported as "There were 10 instances of right-wing violence this past week", how is the average person going to interpret that?
I'm sorry but I can't know why the police or prosecutors didn't interact with him. Do you have reason to believe that happens more often if the perpetrator is left-wing? Do we have any data? Which left-wing actors do you believe to be miscategorized (there are quite stringent criteria to be included in the PIRUS dataset)? It's up to the journalists to do their due diligence if any definition is at risk of being contra-intuitive, if they want to publicize it.

To answer you're last question, they are going to interpret it as if there was some right-wing violence. Isn't it right-wing violence? Perhaps the dataset isn't perfect, they never are. It seems that they have chosen to use exclusive categories, and I don't think there are double counts.
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Water and metabolism of humans

Certainly.

The usual example is about air molecules rather than water, but...

In fact, calculating the probability of a particle of Caesar’s dying breath appearing in any given liter of air (the volume of a deep breath) has become a classic exercise for chemistry and physics students. If you make a few assumptions about the mixing of gases and the lifetimes of molecules in the atmosphere, it turns out that, on average, one molecule of “Caesar air” — or any other historic liter of air, for that matter — appears in each breath you take.

So it's not just 'countless humans', but any/every specific human, and not even throughout their lifetime, but one of their breaths and one of your breaths.
Atoms are very very smol.

Water is water.
Very fascinating! Thanks for the response! :)
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Are Some Prayers An Exercise In Futility?

Before I proposed to my wife,I asked her I question. She is from the Phillipines. In the Navy,I hear guys complaining about their Phillipina Wfves expecting them to support their families. I asked her would this be a problem for us? She said,"No". I then asked her to marry me.She said,"Yes". But after we got married, she wanted us to get a $10,000 loan to send her sister to collage. I disagreed. Her relatives wanted 5 families to donate $2,000 each for a $10,000 down payment on a home. Four families agreed. When my mother-in law asked me,she kept on saying."Say yes,say yes". I kept telling her,"No!"My wife told me,"that's how we do it in the Phillipines." I told her,"but this is the United States. That is why we have banks in this country!" She even wanted to me to give my father-inlaw $50.00 a pay day. We met at work. The reason I wanted to start a relationship with a coworker,because we are both intelligent Clinical Lab Scientists. So that way,when I asked her out,she could not say,"I don't know you!"Many women,that I had asked out for a date,has said that to me.When I was in High School,I took a lot of Science Courses. After I told one girl that in collage.I want to be a Biology Major.She told me,"Oh, you just want to be like those White Guys." Needless to say,I stopped pursuing her. One co-worker wanted me to meet her friend. But her friend asked her,"What kind of car he (me) drives?" I told my co-worker,"No thanks,I am not intrestedte

I'm from the Philippines and I can say that's inappropriate.

My sister married an American and already living in America. While we back home faced severe financial problems the last few years, I even suffered malnutrition and became significantly underweight from not having enough food to eat.

Yet I did not ask for single cent from them. I even keep telling my sister not to ask any money from her husband.

But my sister eventually offered financial help when she got a job. But the point is, the money she's giving us is money she worked hard for and not money she's getting for free from anyone.

Most of our earnings still come from my salary. I value work and not getting things for free. It just feels wrong to receive things for free unless you're unable to earn money due to disability for example.

Philippines don't have the same culture all over the country. It has regional cultures and some have inflated sense of entitlement. I'd try my best not marrying someone from those cultures.
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What are we doing here?

Heresy

The idea that your fellow man can accuse you of heresy has led to persecution and death in the past (for example), which isn't a good thing. Only God can determine if a person is saved or lost.

We are warned that persecution and death will happen again.

Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

Revelation 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Tradition

Paul was positive about holding to tradition. The context being, "by word, or our epistle."

2 Thessalonians 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
Is Paul giving authority to a future power, or pointing to the existing authority in his day (Jesus, the apostles, the law and the prophets)? Or is it both? Regardless...

Paul also warned about tradition.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Jesus to the scribes and Pharisees, concerning tradition.

Matthew 15:1-6 Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread. But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.

Paul gives a prophetic warning.

2 Thessalonians 2:1-7 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

Jesus warns us.

Matthew 24:4-5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Matthew 24:24: For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
We are repeatedly told to not be deceived; the onus is given to the individual to make a determination (through study of scripture, with the prayerful help of the Holy Spirit).

2 Timothy 2:14-16 Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers. Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

I'm not arguing against tradition. Tradition can be a good thing. My own church has tradition. However, we are given the individual authority to discern what the truth is (through study of scripture, with the prayerful help of the Holy Spirit), and we should exercise it.

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

Your post completely ignores the requirement to anathematize those who preach a false gospel in Galatians 1:8-9.

Also, it must be stressed the early church did not persecute heretics (indeed, several bishops including St. Ambrose of Milan wrote letters protesting the decision of Emperor Theodosius to execute the leader of a heretical sect in Spain; the Roman Empire had just 25 years earlier been actively persecuting Orthodox Christians) , while after the Great Schism, the RCC did, but the total number killed in the Spanish Inquisitiom (mostly secret practitioners of Islam and Judaism who had remained in Spain after the reconquest of Granada) and the Albigensian Crusade was at worst, in the same range as the number of Catholics killed by sectarian violence in parts of Europe perpetrated by Protestant governments since the early 16th century (and vice versa).
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Evolution, one more argument against

I believe that test has already been given in your "lesson" to us on the probability of an adaptive organism mutating in a cycling environment.

As to other approaches, what precisely is your theistic-evolution position?

  • Mutations are random changes in genetic systems.
  • Natural selection retains the "good" mutations and allows the others to pass away.
  • Consider a very simple putative organism composed of only 200 integrated and functioning parts.
  • Examine the problem of deriving that organism by this type of process.
  • The system presumably must have started with only one part and then gradually built itself up over many generations into its 200-part organization.
  • The developing organism, at each successive stage, must itself be integrated and functioning in its environment in order to survive until the next stage.
  • Since it is far easier for a complex system to break down than to build itself up, each successive stage becomes statistically less likely than the preceding one
  • A four-component integrated system can more easily "mutate" downward into a three-component system than into a five-component integrated system.
  • If, at any step in the chain, the system mutates "downward," then it is either destroyed altogether or else moves backward, in an evolutionary sense.
  • Therefore, the successful production of a 200-component functioning organism requires, at least, 200 successive, successful such "mutations," each of which is highly unlikely.
  • Even evolutionists recognize that true mutations are very rare, and beneficial mutations are extremely rare—not more than one out of a thousand mutations is beneficial, at the very most.
  • But let us give the evolutionist the benefit of every consideration. Assume that, at each mutational step, there is equally as much chance for it to be good as bad.
  • The probability for the success of each mutation is assumed to be one out of two, or one-half.
  • Statistical theory shows that the probability of 200 successive mutations being successful is then (½)200, or one chance out of 1060 (one chance out of a trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion).
  • Even a one-celled plant or animal may have millions of molecular "parts."
  • Let us assume that earth history is 10 billion years (or 1018 seconds).
  • Let us imagine that every one of the earth's 1014 square feet of surface harbors a billion (i.e., 109) mutating systems and that each mutation requires one-half second (actually it would take far more time than this).
  • Each system can thus go through its 200 mutations in 100 seconds and then, if it is unsuccessful, start over for a new try.
  • In 1018 seconds, there can, therefore, be 1018/102, or 1016, trials by each mutating system.
  • Multiplying all these numbers together, there would be a total possible number of attempts to develop a 200-component system equal to 1014 (109) (1016), or 1039 attempts.
  • Since the probability against the success of any one of them is 1060, it is obvious that the probability that just one of these 1039 attempts might be successful is only one out of 1060/1039, or 1021
  • The chance that any kind of a 200-component integrated functioning organism could be developed by mutation and natural selection just once, anywhere in the world, in all the assumed expanse of geologic time, is less than one chance out of a billion trillion.
(The format options do not allow exponents to show in their normal manner. I trust you will be able to recognize an exponent in context.)

Source: The Mathematical Impossibility Of Evolution | The Institute for Creation Research
This isn't a formula, it's just a list of bullet points.

And I'm not asking about an ICR article, I'm asking about the research paper you shared.
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DOJ issues subpoenas to NY AG Letitia James, including over Trump civil fraud case and NRA case: Sources

Lack of credible evidence? Huh. Are they really going to let that stand in the way of lawfare retribution?!!
Anytime they say "lack of credible evidence" that is code for we have bupkis.
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