No they are not. The fact they are illegal or legal is not entered, unless the jurisdiction actually asks and the person is honest. The peraon could lie and the jurisdiction does not collect their birth certificate.
When arrested police and I'm speaking of regular law enforcement ARREST ANYONE they ask QUESTIONS on the forms that they have to fill out. Information about the person they've arrested from name / to birth date / to address / to being a US citizen or not / whether they work or not / telephone number / etc, that should be common knowledge - they call it the BOOKING PROCESS. And those who lie about it or refuse to answer makes no difference. Definitely immigration and Federal law systems ask these questions.
If Questioned by Police, FBI, Customs Agents, or Immigration Officers - ACLU of Socal
If Questioned by Police, FBI, Customs Agents, or Immigration Officers - ACLU of Socal
Then what was the point of saying Americans commit crime? It seems like you were arguing that it is no argument to say we shouldn't allow illegals in because they commit crime. I don't get your point then.
Then why mention it?
The point is Donald Trump main reasoning for his actions is to take out the criminal element of people who entered this country illegally. And how they are committing this crime that crime in every other crime as if it outweighs what legal Americans do. Also mentioning he's going after those with visas and green cards
Again what is your point in pointing out illegals do these jobs? How do you know Americans won't do them? Maybe Americans wont do them for the wages illegals will? If we get rid of the illegals maybe they would have to raise the wages to get Americans. Or at least the legal immigrants. It might actually force Congress to pass immigration reforms to allow legals in to work those jobs specifically.
People who enter this country illegally have been doing those jobs for decades. I've witnessed it and I've been around quite a while.
Among the 474 separate occupations defined by the Department of Commerce, we find only a handful of majority-immigrant occupations, and none completely dominated by immigrants.
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And then you say maybe Americans won't do it because of the wage, yes they are all low wage income jobs. Jobs that Blacks typically done for decades prior.
There Are No Jobs Americans Won’t Do
There Are No Jobs Americans Won’t Do
Jobs Nobody Wants | PBS News
Jobs Nobody Wants
Most Americans say immigrants mainly fill jobs US citizens don’t want | Pew Research Center
A majority of Americans say immigrants mostly fill jobs U.S. citizens do not want
You were the one preaching how we as a country should follow scriptures. But I wonder if you really believe that or if its actually political for you. Because what I have found is so many who claim we should be taking in and helping people who cross our borders and want to use scripture as an admonition to do so, only want to use it for that purpose. They are not using scripture to support outlawing things that scripture says we shouldn't be doing.
Preaching if that's what you want to call it. I'm no politician! And NOWHERE DID I CLAIM that we should be taking in and helping people across the border. You see there are those who need help, really need help / there are those who act like they need help / and there are those who are just looking for a free ride and personally I cannot make that distinction so I Claim nothing..........But if the government of the US decides to take in immigrants, ((the few dollars I pay in taxes isn't worth a hill of beans,)) but when combined with the working class of the over 300 million people of this country, there are people that can be helped not only American born, or immigrants, but other countries too after all America claims to be the richest country in the world and America spends billions aiding other countries and millions of American citizens lack and live in poverty conditions, some by choice but most can't be helped.
If someone comes to me and need help and it's in my power to help them I will !!!! I cannot help a country.
You either want the governemnt to follow scriptural admonition on all things or you should keep it to yourself. The Bible is not a club only to be used for your pet political positions.
You can assume what you think I want !!! You can even say as you have I should keep it to myself BUT I can say what I want to say, you don't like it or don't agree with it, I don't care. You can't stop me from speaking what I choose to speak, and when I speak and I try to speak respectfully.
No one says the Bible is a club are uses it as a club and it's not my pet political position.
It is not a treatise for how government should operate. It was written to teach Chriatians how they ought to be in their personal lives and for how the church itself ought to govern itself.
I know what the God and his word teaches _ thank you very much.
According to scripture we are not supposed to lie to anyone. Do you think we ought to follow scripture and ask government for laws against all lying.
I used that to prove a point. That often those who want to use scripture for certain things are often politically motivated to do so and not really interested in being consistent. And homosexuality is a quick way to determine where they really are. In the past I have used adultery as an example as well. Don't get hung up on the fact I didn't list every sinful act. My point is bigger than that.
Don't get hung up on facts you say and yet you seem to as well as assumptions. I live in a world where there are 8 billion other human beings living in also, over 2 billion profess to be Christians. Christians as well as all others are sinners always has been and will be until they leave this earth, if there was no sin there would be no need for redemption. And again I am no politician, no I am I trying to prove a political point, it boils down to humanity to truths. There are politicians who are Christians and use or even miss use the word of God as a driving point, but that is few, when you calculate the number of politicians.
To be clear, when it comes to asking, wanting or supporting the governement in following a scriptural standard, then we should not use it only for certain things we want, but should use ALL of scripture and not just the pet ones we like. That goes for all of us. If I am going to say that we should outlaw homosexuality because the Bible says its bad, then I should also support big government welfare taking care of all poor. We either accept all of scripture being followed by government or none of it. Picking and choosing is political and hypocritical.
You say to be clear .... To be clear I don't have a pet political agenda. I speak for truth and what I have written is truth.
I personally do my best to follow the ways of my Lord God Yeshua and I mess up and repent daily.
I HAVEN'T picked and choose any Scripture to live by or not to live by / to do or not to do that is your assumption.