rjs330 said:

Not in the same way.

All those things are tied to sex.

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Neither fashion, hairstyle, mannerisms, friend groups or partner choice are necessarily tied to sex nor secondary sex characteristics. They are obviously social and cultural constructs. Secondary sex characteristics are themselves only differentiated between the sexes by degree rather than existence/absence.

rjs330 said:

Of course there are variations within the sex group and not every person within the sex group is exactly the same. But none of those things alter whether or not one is a male or female.

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No, that is true. Sex is determined by gamete size and gamete motility.

rjs330 said:

And people.do NOT guess wrong quite often. Its very rare that someone might guess wrong.

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Often enough, I said it happens when you don't have access to social or cultural factors. We all use them in our determination of appropriate pronouns if we have access to them, hence why pronouns are not tied to sex. We need to talk about what tied means in this context. Because the existence of language without gendered pronouns but with males and females, shows that there is no biological or necessary logical (in the academic meaning of logic) connection. So I guess what you mean is there is an empirical correlation between sex and pronoun use? Perhaps there are, but as I said each one of us don't have access to the biological sex of very many people. What we have access to is gender expression and some secondary sex characteristics (depending on setting, outdoors in winter you don't get see many of them). Or what do you mean with tied in this context?

rjs330 said:

That also does not determine if someone is male or female. Of we had the ability to surgically alter someone to make them look like a lizard, they still.wouldnt be a lizard. It would be an abomination. Which is what trying to surgically alter someone into something they aren't is by removing perfectly healthy body parts trying to graft on things that don't belong. It sounds like something from a horror movie of a mad scientist.

In some fashion yes, as we are talking the genetic norm. For example if a male has an accident that removes his testicles, he is still a male in toto. Or a female has to have a hysterectomy which doesn't create something besides a female. No one is trying to make her a male.

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So what is your take on those that are XY SRY negative or XX SRY positive?

rambot said:

It doesn't.

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Yes it does. Want to breed white supremacy ideology? Keep trashing white people.

Never ever used a credit card....

Robban said:

Havayah, in short, based on the teachings of the Lubavitcher Rebbe Menachem M. Schneerson..

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I understand "Havayah" and agree its something along those lines. What we think is consciousness or the inner self that is something beyond the material world is really our divine nature and being made in Gods image. Rational beings able to know the divine and God.

But I am not familiar with "Lubavitcher Rebbe Menachem M. Schneerson". I had a quick read and it seems he was a prominent Rabbi who initiated welfare for Jews and trying to establish their heritage after the Holocaust.

If you mean the Jewish identity as it is represented to Christians then yes we see there is some sort of divine relation between God and the Jews.

Robban said:

The Torah portion of Vayeira begins with G-d revealing to Moshe His Ineffable Name Havayah.

G-d then goes on to tell Moshe that He did not make this name known to Avraham, Yitzchak, or Ya`akov.

Rashi comments that G-d was thereby implying that "He did not make Himself known to them with His unlimited attribute of truth."

This in short there is much more.

btw, I have copied this.

Edit, missed " Lubavtcher"

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Thankyou,

NxNW said:

There is zero evidence of that happening (except under Trump).

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There's a lot of evidence it happened under the Biden administration.

Fervent said:

One of the central disagreements in politics today seems to boil down to what we think the proper function of government is. Is it to preserve individual liberties? Or is it to ensure that every citizen has their basic needs met? Some other central function? My question is, what light does the Bible shed on this question? If we look at the structure of Israel in the OT, what can we learn about how God intends for governments to function and what their mandate is?

I have my thoughts, but I want to hear some other opinions before divulging them.

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Yes, there is.

throughfierytrial said:

No, God created you and all people before the creation of the world and he endows skills knowledge and wisdom. Refute Psalm 33:9 and Hebrews 11:3 and see my original post. Our differences are such that I feel we should end here. I pray the Lord will impart wisdom and that our discussion will prove to have been fruitful… if not now then maybe in the future.

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Again, no one is saying that God didn't create ex nihilo. The question is, is that the specific creation event that Genesis is describing? Hebrews is not a retelling of Genesis. It's a completely different book of the Bible written several hundred years later by a different author. So it's an assumption that because the idea is in Hebrews, that Genesis therefore is saying that specific idea.

And Psalm 33:9 says nothing of ex nihilo creation. It just says that God spoke and it was done, which we all agree on. Also when Psalm 33:9 states "it stood fast" that does not imply ex nihilo creation, rather it implies that God spoke and something that already existed stood fast.

As a matter of fact, just read the passage:

Psalms 33:6-9 NASB1995
[6] By the word of the Lord the heavens were made, And by the breath of His mouth all their host. [7] He gathers the waters of the sea together as a heap; He lays up the deeps in storehouses. [8] Let all the earth fear the Lord; Let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of Him. [9] For He spoke, and it was done; He commanded, and it stood fast.

The passage parallels Genesis, but as we can see, in creation of the heavens, the waters were separated and restrained just like in Genesis day 2, and the earth stood fast when He spoke.

The objects of creation are already present in these verses. And you can search the entire old testament high and low, this is how it is always described, as including pre existing material.

Shemjaza said:

I notice no one is telling us to trust Martha Stewart as a source on fact ...

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So no one takes her cookbooks literally?

Landon Caeli said:

This country belongs to me.

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If you get what you want...

Tomorrow belongs to you



Until then, you'll have to share it with the rest of us.

The stuff in those Epstein files must be pretty bad if they’re already resorting to the war distraction.

In Kazakhstan, religious freedom is heavily restricted by the country's Religion Law, dating back to 2011. The government continually tightens its control over society, leading to increased surveillance, raids on meetings and arrests. They use the threat of militant Islam to justify these restrictions.

Russian Orthodox churches face fewer issues since they typically don’t engage with the Kazakhstani population.

Indigenous Christians with a Muslim background suffer the most. They face persecution from both the state and their own families, friends and communities. Some converts are locked up by their families, beaten and eventually expelled from their communities. Local imams also preach against them, further isolating these converts.

Who is most vulnerable to persecution?

In Kazakhstan, all Christian communities can face rights violations by government officials, regardless of location. However, converts to Christianity experience the most intense pressure from family, friends and the community, especially in rural areas. This pressure is less severe in urban
settings, where they may have more anonymity and support networks.

Meet 'Ailin'

[My family] started to force me to say [the Islamic statement of faith], to renounce my faith, my Christianity. But I said: ‘No, I know my God—it's Jesus. I believe He is God. I’m a Christian; I’m not a Muslim.”

AILIN, A BELIEVER IN CENTRAL ASIA

What as changed this year?

Kazakhstan has jumped nine places on the 2025 World Watch List since last year. This is primarily caused by a higher violence score. Across the board, pressure on followers of Jesus remains very high.

Religious freedom is restricted by legislation dating back to September 2011. The Kazakhstan government has been increasing its control over the whole of society, which has led to heightened surveillance, raids on meetings and arrests.

What does Open Doors do to help Christians in Kazakhstan?

Open Doors helps Christians in Central Asia* who face persecution for their faith. They provide immediate aid and support by distributing literature, prayer, training and various social and economic projects such as rehabilitation centres.

* For security reasons, the name Open Doors cannot be associated with certain activities in this country. When communicating about projects in this country do not use the country name, instead use the region name: Central Asia.

How can you pray for Kazakhstan?

• Pray for Christians who can be targeted for violations of Kazakhstan’s Religion Law. Ask God to protect churches from misuse of these regulations.
• The government of Kazakhstan regularly monitors church leaders. Ask God to protect His servants.
• Many believers in Kazakhstan have trouble getting regular access to Bibles and Christian literature. Pray that God’s Word will find its way to every believer in the country.

Hans Blaster said:

Oh. "revolutions".

Just the end (almost, hopefully) of the repression of women. Would hate for that to happen.

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It went way beyond womens rights. Ever heard of 2nd, 3rd and even 4th wave feminism. Or the Queer and Critical race theories that stem from this that has cased all the insanity in recent times.

It became an ideological force and religion in itself. The new gods were identity rights over all else.

Hans Blaster said:

Now you're callin' me a liar. Not a good look, steve.

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Yes as far as making a absolute claim that no one cares about the Christian God yes. It seems others agree. It seems the actual facts on the ground show you cannot be correct. Just admit you made an extreme claim that is not supported.

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Who are these men killed for their belief in your god, Steve?

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Kirk was one. This made a lot of Christians very uncomfortable because they believed in the same things as Kirk primarily.

WHY ARE CHRISTIANS PERSECUTED IN THE WEST?
Secularism’s claim to create a value-free public space is deeply flawed. Consider, for example, recent US Congressional hearings where appointees with conservative Christian views were not treated with neutrality but with overt hostility.

Progressivism seeks to dismantle Christian ethics and beliefs
Progressivism thus goes further in its stated aims than secularism alone. In a purely secular model, a street preacher such as David McConnell should be allowed to present the Gospel in public – but because his perspective should not be privileged, others should also be allowed to criticise his beliefs and present their own.

Progressivism, however, will denounce McConnell as an oppressor, accusing him of hate speech and calling upon the authorities to lock him away. “Christians who hold conservative views,” says Sookhdeo, “are seen as dangerous to society.”5

Tolerance, argues Trueman, is no longer held to be sufficient. A Christian may hold the personal view, for example, that homosexuality is sinful, but genuinely feel no animosity towards gay people, nor wish to criminalise their behaviour. Yet such a stance is nowhere near good enough for today’s progressives. “The politics of sexual identity [has] become so ferocious that any dissent from the latest orthodoxy is greeted with scorn and sometimes legal action.”6

As such, progressives conclude that Christian ethics and beliefs must not only be pushed into the private sphere, but eliminated altogether. Only in this way can “oppression” be stopped.

Hans Blaster said:

(And you and I live in different societies, Steve.)

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Like the above article points out. The phenomena of prgressive ideologies is not a neutral ideology. It sees western Christian beliefs and values as a threat to its survival. The two cannot exist together. As the secular State is progressive at least when Dems are in.

Then its inevitable that the Christian God and Christian belief will be a threat than needs stopping. At the least forced to the sidelines and underground. So its the same for you and me Hans if we live in western nations who once held God and Christianity as important to a good society.

Hans Blaster said:

They, they, they. That phantom "they" is back again to "oppress" you, I see.

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You know who they are so don't pretend lol. It doesn't help when people pretend its not true, sort of cancelling Christians again and again and never acknowledging the reality of what is happening.

Hans Blaster said:

I am but one, not legion.

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Then don't be their spokemen claiming you know that no one cares about our God. You are therefore only speaking for yourself.

Always in His Presence said:

A little Biblical history and perspective first.

First and foremost is Jesus Christ -

Heb 3:1Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession, Christ Jesus,​

There is the Original 12:

• Simon (Peter)
• Andrew (his brother)
• James (son of Zebedee)
• John (his brother)
• Philip
• Bartholomew (Nathanael)
• Thomas (Didymus)
• Matthew (the tax collector/Levi)
• James (son of Alphaeus)
• Thaddaeus (Judas son of James, also called Jude or Lebbaeus)
• Simon (the Zealot/Cananite)
• Judas Iscariot (the betrayer, later replaced)

Judas was replaced by Matthias - After Judas Iscariot's death, Matthias was chosen by lot to replace him and is explicitly numbered "with the eleven apostles" (Acts 1:26). He is therefore referred to as an apostle. They held a unique position (role) in the Gospels -

Rev 21:14 Now the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

The Reader will notice that the writers of their Gospels - Luke and Mark were not part of the 12. - yet many refer to them as Apostles

Luke 9:1 Then He called His twelve disciples together and gave them power and authority over all demons, and to cure diseases. 2 He sent them to preach the kingdom of God and to heal the sick. 3 And He said to them, “Take nothing for the journey, neither staffs nor bag nor bread nor money; and do not have two tunics apiece. 4 “Whatever house you enter, stay there, and from there depart. 5 And whoever will not receive you, when you go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet as a testimony against them.”​

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The reader will note that the 12 were called disciples when they were with Christ and Apostles when they were sent out -​

Keep reading:

Luke 9:10 And the apostles, when they had returned, told Him all that they had done.​

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Same 12 people - their titles changed from disciple to apostle because they were sent out on a specific journey.

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Luke 10:10 After these things the Lord appointed seventy others also, and sent them two by two before His face into every city and place where He Himself was about to go. 2 Then He said to them, “The harvest truly is great, but the laborers are few; therefore pray the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest. 3 Go your way; behold, I send you out as lambs among wolves. 4 Carry neither money bag, knapsack, nor sandals; and greet no one along the road. 5 But whatever house you enter, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ 6 And if a son of peace is there, your peace will rest on it; if not, it will return to you. 7 And remain in the same house, eating and drinking such things as they give, for the laborer is worthy of his wages. Do not go from house to house. 8 Whatever city you enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you. 9 And heal the sick there, and say to them, ‘The kingdom of God has come near to you.’ ​

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Luke 10:17 Then the seventy returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.”​

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EXACTLY the same direction from the Lord - EXACTLY the same authority and results.

Apostle - transliterated - apostolos - a delegate; specially, an ambassador of the Gospel; officially a commissioner of Christ ("apostle") (with miraculous powers):—apostle, messenger, he that is sent.​

Then there is Paul - an Apostle to the Gentiles

Barnabus - Acts 14:4 But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard this, they tore their clothes and ran in among the multitude, crying out

James - Gal 1:19 19 But I saw none of the other apostles except James, the Lord’s brother.

None will ever be to the level of the 12 -

But there are numbers called by God and sent who bear the Title Apostle who preached the Gospel, cast out demons and healed the sick.

When I think of modern times, I think of Dr. Billy Graham, who preached the Gospel to over 1 billion people - ministered to Kings and President, who's ministry saw tens of millions come to Christ for Salvation.

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No. But there sure a lot of folks today who think they'd like to be one.

Hegseth declines to comment on report that boat survivors were killed as a result of his orders to military​

According to The Washington Post, the Sept. 2 boat strike initially left two survivors clinging to the boat. The Post says Adm. Mitch Bradley, head of Special Operations Command, then ordered a second strike in order to comply with Hegseth's orders and to ensure the survivors couldn't call on other traffickers to retrieve them and their cargo.

If true, it is unclear why Bradley wouldn't have ordered troops to collect the survivors and their cargo from the water, as the military did in a subsequent strike when two survivors were taken aboard a Navy ship via helicopter.

"The Department has no response to this article and declines to comment further," a Pentagon spokesperson said Friday.
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Some experts say the alleged “double-tap” strike may violate the law of armed conflict, which forbids targeting an enemy combatant who’s out of the fight due to injury or surrender.

“They’re breaking the law either way,” Sarah Harrison, a senior analyst at the Crisis Group think tank who served as associate general counsel at the Pentagon, told CNN. “They’re killing civilians in the first place, and then if you assume they’re combatants, it’s also unlawful — under the law of armed conflict, if somebody is ‘hors de combat’ and no longer able to fight, then they have to be treated humanely.”

Hegseth's got a date in the Hague.

Don’t we spend enough time accusing the church. It’s rapping up to the end times it’s not going to get better. Everybody’s drawn their lines. I am just waiting for the rapture and being as faithful as I can be.

ladodgers6 said:

I once again beg to differ. But anyways good day to you.

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At best a discussion in a forum lke this is going to end up trading verses, not getting into the historical and literary contexts that are necessary to properly understand a document that is 2000 years old at the youngest. Especially when we get into texts that have been proof texted so often that the doctrinal gloss of a particular theological movement that didn't crop up until the 16th century has replaced the contextual understanding.

Always in His Presence said:

not related by marriage - not related by blood - not related. Which baby momma's and baby daddy's aren't.

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I'll give you a dollar to learn how to use apostrophes.

Hentenza said:

That did not answered my question. You cited a verse regarding Abraham following God’s commandments, statutes, and laws but can’t tell me what commandments or what statutes, or what laws. The Bible is clear that the 10 commandments along with the mosaic law was not given until 430 years later during Moses.

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There was a Law "ADDED" that Abraham wasn't under because it wasn't added until 430 years after Abraham, and was ADDED "Because" of Transgression of God's Laws. And this Law was to be in place, "Till the Seed should come" to whom "the promise" was made;

Well that couldn't be the 10 Commandments, or God's Judgment concerning what is food and what isn't. Because Noah and Abraham and Noah's sons all knew of Adultery, murder, covetousness, clean and unclean foods and looking on the nakedness of their father. And therefore these Laws were not added "because of transgressions", 430 years after Abraham.

But there was a "Priesthood" Law/Covenant made with the sons of Levi, AKA "Levites". And it was ADDED, as ALL Priesthoods, "because of transgression of God's Laws", for the purpose of providing atonement of those sins. Levi wasn't even born until centuries after Abraham was dead and buried. So we know it was not possible for Abraham to be under this Priesthood Law, to provide atonement for Abraham's Sins.

And we know this Priesthood, "After the Order of Aaron" (Levites) was only temporary because there is a Prophesy of a different Priest that God was to put in place, "After the Order of Melchizedek" and not "after the Order of Aaron" (Levitical Priesthood). Hebrews 7:11-15 spells this out perfectly.

This Prophesied Priest, who I believe to be Jesus, would be the "SEED" to whom "the promise" was made;.

1 Kings 9: 4 And if thou wilt walk before me, as David thy father walked, in integrity of heart, and in uprightness, to do according to all that I have commanded thee, and wilt keep my statutes and my judgments: 5 Then I will establish the throne of thy kingdom upon Israel for ever, as I promised to David thy father, saying, There shall not fail thee a man upon the throne of Israel.

Psalms 110: 3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth. 4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.

So then the Law Abraham didn't have, was the Levitical Priesthood Law, as Levi wasn't even born in Abraham's Time. And like any Priesthood Law, it was ADDED to God's Laws, "Because of Transgression of God's Laws", to provide for the remission of sins.

This Priesthood LAW was temporary, as it was Added 430 years after Abraham, and was only to be in place, until God's High Priest "After the Order of Melchizedek", "to whom "the promise" was made;, should come. This is the "LAW" that was ADDED "because of their transgressions" that was to lead them to Christ for the remission of their sins.

Zacharias understood this and was Led to this Christ, before HE was even born.

Luke 1: 5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth. 6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

67 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying, 68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people, 69 And hath "raised up" an horn of salvation for us "in the house" of his servant David; (Judah, not Levi) 70 As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, "which have been since the world began":

And a Just man called Simeon, was also led to Christ by this Temporary Priesthood Law.

Luke 2: 25 And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him. 26 And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ. (To whom the Promise was made)

27 And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law,

28 Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and said, 29 Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word: 30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation, 31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people; 32 A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel. 33 And Joseph and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him.

34 And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against; 35 (Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.

There is an evil and insidious falsehood promoted by this world's religious system, "Who come in Christ's Name" and my Lord, the Jesus "of the Bible" warned not to be deceived by these many. They promote the falsehood "that the 10 commandments along with the mosaic law was not given until 430 years later during Moses".

This is a deceitful and untrue statement that many of my brothers have fallen for. God said of Abraham that the Nations of the world would be blessed by Abraham's "SEED" (Judah, Jesus, God's Priest after the Order of Melchizedek)) "Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

To preach that the 10 Commandments, the 2 Greatest Commandments and all that hang on them, God's Judgments concerning what is Holy, Clean and Righteous that God gave Abraham's children, was not the same God's Laws that God gave to Abraham himself, is foolishness. And the promoters of this philosophy of man have no Scriptural Evidence to support this claim.

My hope is that you do the study yourself as I did, and you too will come to understand that the Law Added to God's LAWS, "Because" of Transgression of God's Laws, to provide for remission of sins, was the temporary Levitical Priesthood, that was only to be in force, until God's High Priest "After the Order of Melchizedek", "to whom "the promise" was made;, should come. And this temporary Priesthood was to lead the Faithful to the Lord's Christ, for remission of sins, as it did David, Caleb, Shadrack, Zacharias, Simeon, Anna, the Wise men, and all the Faithful examples in the Law and Prophets.

Hentenza said:

So I ask again, what commandments, what statutes, and what law did Abraham follow?

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Read what it says, and believe it. And understand that Levi wasn't even born until Centuries after Abraham. Therefore, it was the Levitical Priesthood that was ADDED 430 years after Abraham, "Because of Transgression" of God's Laws, Statutes and Commandments "of God" that Abraham obeyed. And this Priesthood was only to be in place, "Till the Seed should come" TO WHOM THE PROMISES WERE MADE".

Zootopia+

Moses as well as other prophets wrote- That what we call the first covenant given by Moses to Israel, was predestined to be replaced by God in favor of a second covenant that was to come. That the first covenant was but an instrument towards his designs of a predestined second covenant through which he would save billions and transform the world. Many of the prophets spoke of this but no one did it quite like Moses in the first five books of the Bible. This is why God rejected so many of the first born in Genesis but elected and predestined the second born.

*Cain the first born of Adam was rejected in favor of the second born Abel.

*Ishmael, Abraham's first born was rejected in favor of his second born Isaac.

*Esau the first born rejected in favor of the second born Jacob.

*Jacob, later named Israel blessed Joseph's second born over the first born
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*Moses struck the rock the first time in the wilderness and nothing happened, but the second time he struck it water, “the living water” came out.

None of this was written by accident. It is all prophecy about God predestining the world to be saved via the second covenant with the first as a means to arrive at the second.

There is much more of this in the Bible like Israel's first king Saul being rejected in favor of Israel's second king David. Even the book of Job is a prophecy of the first and second covenant. Everything Job had from God at first was destroyed by Satan. But what he received the second time around was much much more and endured. However, the the coup d'état of this prophecy is at the end of the five books of the Torah. God does not allow Moses to lead the people into the promised land because a man named Yahshua, Joshua in English, Jesus from Hebrew to Greek to English, was predestined to do that. A man named Jesus led the children of Israel into the promised land as a prophecy of Jesus leading the meek to inherit the entire earth!

Now ask yourselves how could Moses and the rest of the OT writers know such things about a first and second covenant and preach and prophesy this would happen thousands of years in advance? Especially through the historical story line of the lives of the patriarchs and the lawgiver Moses himself? It certainly was not written after the fact as the books of Moses and the prophets were known throughout the empires of those days many centuries before the Messiah came. Besides, do you think the Jewish political class who murdered Jesus because they thought he would take their ruler-ship over the Jewish people from them would go ahead and alter the scriptures in such a way as to prove the claims made about Jesus? In their rabbinical writings in the centuries following the first century they sure don’t. They couldn’t anyway. The entire Greek Empire had access to the Hebrew Bible written in Greek hundreds of years before Jesus came. That is just historical fact.

I would like you to use reason and logic about what I just pointed out. This is not just a matter of so called faith. What possible reason could Moses or any other writers of the OT have had to conjure up such a story line? What gain would it have been to them? What a total contrivance of nothing because there was no chance the world could or would develop along such lines. Especially in light or the fact that no one understood what it all meant. The apostle Paul called this in Ephesians 3:4.... the mystery of Christ 5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; But he found this out after the fact because it became evident due to it transpiring in his ministry. His revelation of it came through the scripture as he was living out what was prophesied.

God had to trick Peter into going to a household of gentiles to preach. Even after that Peter called Paul's writings on the subject scripture, because it was really no clarity on the matter up till that point, until after it began to come to pass. One might ascertain that surely some of the saved in ancient Israel knew that the messiah was going to bring the light, salvation and transformation to the nations because there is so much prophecy about it. Some of the prophets even spoke directly of a new covenant for Israel and the abrogation of the current one. But the means through which that would be accomplished was just to much to grasp for them. Especially since what was written was four-twelve centuries old before Jesus had arrived on the scene and there was no more scripture written throughout that four hundred year period.

Moses even stated it in Duet 18:17 The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your fellow Israelites. You must listen to him. 18.....He will tell them everything I command him. 19 I myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name. Or as the writer of the NT book of Hebrew claims concerning the Old Covenant: 2nd Co. 3:13 We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to prevent the Israelites from seeing the end of what was passing away.


Psalm 22:27 All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the families of the nations shall worship before you. 28 For the kingdom is the LORD'S: and he is the governor among the nations.

Isaiah 2:17......and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day. 18 And the idols he shall utterly abolish.

Isaiah 54:5 ......The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

It amazes me what Christians will fight about. Skillet's song is pretty tame, relatively speaking, when it comes to Christian Metal artists making Christmas music.

If you wanted to flip out about something, I think this song would be a lot more appropriate to get upset about (even though I personally still love this kind of thing)...

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essentialsaltes said:

Energy secretary suggests nationalizing private power generators to lower electricity prices, add capacity.

Trump’s Energy Secretary Wants Walmart Backup Generators Powering U.S. Grid​

Chris Wright acknowledged prices are still rising

Chris Wright: “We will take backup generators already at data centers or behind the back of a Walmart and bring those on when we need extra electricity production.”

He suggested those private-sector generators, typically installed for emergency use, could be tapped when the grid requires supplemental electricity. Wright did not outline how such a program would work or whether companies have agreed to participate.

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What you conclude is NOT in any way what the article says.
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The articles suggests that there could be a program whereby privately held power capacity which is off-grid could be used by to help power the grid in time of need. It noted that it didn't know which companies are interested.

There are programs in almost every state where private assets are allowed to be used to send power into the grid in times of need. Some involve water heaters, hone generation, electric car parked at municipal parking lots and many, many others. And yes, lots of baclkup generration can generate electricity to be provided to the gtid.
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BTW, this idea was noted as innovative and not at all a suggestion for action. I would note that NH took the opposite approach toward backup generation. They are fine with industrial generation and would allow it to be free from most generation provided that it is NOT connected to the grid. This generation would need to be on company property and the company would get no backup from the grid. This would greatly decrease the cost to other consumers.
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So
1) no mandatory program is suggested
2) even if the program were mandatory, the program would likely provide that any EXCESS be provided to the grid amd that the grid would have the right to turn the on the generation if it was not in use.


BTW, I worked in electric utility companies for over 25 years. This is a fine idea and should be explored.

Hans Blaster said:

How many has he made?

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How many have you or anyone on this thread made. At least he has made similar products requiring similar tech. Were you not using machining experience and expertise to determine the vases. How many have those claiming to be machinist have they made.

Now you ask if he has made vases and only apply it to those I present to undermine them. While never bothering to ask the same question of anyone on your side who claims machining expertise. Its bias once again.

The point is the opening and lip of a part he makes will have the same tech as one on a vase. Its a case of a different cutter that handles granite. But the principles are the same. Especially for the interior that is the most difficult.