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Trump knocking down historic East Wing to build Ballroom - is this LEGAL?
- American Politics
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If you'd been following the thread, you'd know.
That is just his second term... When you look at his first term, you see the broad spectrum which includes his peak (which was 49%) and his valley (32%). If you'd like to state that he's had flat disapproval with no peaks during his second term, you won't hear me disagree.
However, the cherry-picking of data in order to extrapolate the facts you want, while fun, doesn't change the overall data. Nor does it mean I think you particularly qualified for a discussion on statistical analysis.
Where in there did I say people were souring on him...?
Somebody else said:
"We can argue about polls and percentages all day long, yet it remains more than a few do like Trump. A tacit admission of this can be found right here on CF whenever something bad happens in a red state and someone invariably chortles that they got what they voted for."
To which I said:
"And somebody saying that a red state is having the say they voted for isn’t a tacit admission that he’s a popular president. It’s a statement that the red state people crying into their Cheerios over Trump doing something that impacts them badly have nothing to cry about as they were warned it would happen. Honestly the red staters bemoaning the bad things happening to them goes to speak more to his unpopularity than his popularity."
Again, you disingenuously cherry-picked a statement to lop out the part where it made clear I was explaining somebody else's rationale for a statement they made, not making a statement myself. Not to mention, nowhere in there does it say he's becoming unpopular. I'm saying that people's lack of sympathy for people who voted for him crying about his policies are hurting them stems from how everybody was warned this is the president he'd be and they're having the day they voted for.
Either you need to read the thread to catch up with the conversation, or you are resorting to some pretty desperate moves to try and contort a narrative that makes you feel better, and that's gross.
I never said anything about "buyer's remorse." You invented a narrative, inflicted it on me, hurt your own feelings over it, and now are spending your time proving to me why something that I never said that hurt your feelings isn't true. And for some reason you think because other editorials have said it and you intentionally were deceptive about something I said, I need to be answerable to your deception and their editorials.You're not the only one to posit the theory that voters have "buyer's remorse" with Trump.
Has Trump Buyer's Remorse Already Set In? | Opinion
A slew of polls marked the first 100 days of the second Trump presidency. All the major ones showed increasing disapproval of Donald Trump's handling of his job during his second term.www.newsweek.com
Are Trump Supporters Having Buyer’s Remorse?
As tariffs bite, farmers go under, and ICE raids hit Democratic strongholds, many Trump supporters are reconsidering their allegiance.www.levelman.com
Trump's Latino Supporters Are Having Buyer's Remorse
The President made notable gains with Hispanic voters in 2024. But many are having a change of heart just 100 days into the second Trump Administration, writes Alejandro Puyana.time.com
‘Very Scary’: Swing State Trump Voters Have Buyer’s Remorse
They voted for President Donald Trump to bring prices down and bolster the economy. Now they regret their vote.www.thedailybeast.com
The Trump Backers Who Have Buyer’s Remorse
With every new policy and offhand remark, Trump belies the imaginary versions of himself that inspired many of his supporters.www.theatlantic.com
If there is any "buyer's remorse" over Trump, it is certainly not reflected in his approval polling, which has remained "objectively" constant. If there were this epidemic of buyer's remorse, one would expect to see it reflected in his approval rating as people defected from him. But that's not happening, despite all the chaos he's instigated.
Sorry, your girl doesn't play that game. Argue with yourself, because you won't get anywhere with me over it.
So two presidents. I didn't scroll up enough to read Biden's, but yes, he was objectively unpopular through his whole presidency. Something I pointed out later when I said he was only popular for 23% of his presidency, which is still twice as long as Trump was. That all being said, however, he was an objectively unpopular president.
It tells me I understand more about how elections work than you do, apparently.
He's run for president four times, yet has only won the popular vote once. Because we don't elect based off of popular vote, we do it based off the electoral college, it means he still got to be president because he won in the only metric that counts, and he did so twice. However, that doesn't mean he's objectively popular. It means the system we've set up to elect presidents means occasionally the most popular person for president won't actually be president.
I'll take the eye roll as an admission that you know I'm right, but it bothers you.
Sigh...Even the self-appointed fact-checkers admit that Trump never told anyone to "inject bleach".
Trump Didn't Tell People to 'Inject Bleach' for COVID-19. But Here's What He Did Say
Trump's confusing remarks near the start of the coronavirus pandemic were revived during the 2024 presidential campaign.www.snopes.com
Y'all need to really read the things before you post them as things that supposedly support your claims. It makes things easy for me, but it's just so disappointing to see how little people actually research things and how hard they will work to dwell in the land of misinformation so as to avoid dealing with how awful Trump was during COVID.
"Rating: Mostly False
What's True
During an April 2020 media briefing, Trump did ask members of the government's coronavirus task force to look into whether disinfectants could be injected inside people to treat COVID-19. But when a reporter asked in a follow-up question whether cleaning products like bleach and isopropyl alcohol would be injected into a person, the then-president said those products would be used for sterilizing an area, not for injections.
However, at no point did Trump explicitly tell people they could or should inject bleach into their bodies...
Though Trump's comments made little sense and were ridiculed and described as dangerous by experts, under any reasonable interpretation of his words, he didn't explicitly suggest people should inject themselves with bleach or other household disinfectants.
Instead, while floating the idea to the government's coronavirus task force and the media, Trump asked whether injecting disinfectants "inside" could help fight the virus, as we further outline below."
So yes, he did talk about injecting bleach. You're hanging your hat on the "Well, he didn't EXPLICITLY tell people to do that, therefore there's no problem." What the rest of us hang our hats on is that saying "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you're going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds — it sounds interesting to me." is not a well-informed comment to make, nor is it a presidential one. My kids, who were in middle school at the time, are able to pick out that spitballing if it's feasible to inject bleach to cure people of an illness is a profoundly moronic thing for anybody to say, but for the president to say it...? It's shockingly uninformed and dangerous.
As you said, your regurgitation of demonstrably false, yet sanction COVID propaganda calls into question your objectivity.And Ivermectin is not "horse medicine". Before it became a political flashpoint (note that the following article was authored in 2011), Ivermectin was approved for human use in 1987 and was labeled a "wonder drug".
There are few drugs that can seriously lay claim to the title of ‘Wonder drug’, penicillin and aspirin being two that have perhaps had greatest beneficial impact on the health and wellbeing of Mankind. But ivermectin can also be considered alongside those worthy contenders, based on its versatility, safety and the beneficial impact that it has had, and continues to have, worldwide—especially on hundreds of millions of the world’s poorest people.Ivermectin, ‘Wonder drug’ from Japan: the human use perspective - PMC
Discovered in the late-1970s, the pioneering drug ivermectin, a dihydro derivative of avermectin—originating solely from a single microorganism isolated at the Kitasato Intitute, Tokyo, Japan from Japanese soil—has had an immeasurably beneficial ...pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Your regurgitation of demonstrably false, yet sanctioned, COVID propaganda calls into question your objectivity.
Yes, people can be prescribed Ivermectin for human use for things like parasites, skin conditions, and related conditions, but it's no longer the first-line drug for such things (especially in the US).
However, people were not using that Ivermectin. They were using horse medicine. And officials, both dubious medical ones and personalities with no experience in the field of medicine, much less infectious diseases, were telling people how to procure it. And it wasn't the human medication they were getting, it was the horse medicine. Trump also tweeted about other treatments, unproven ones, that had no basis in medicine and led people to accessing all sorts of inappropriate medications, and lead to an increase of poisonings so demonstrable that WHO tracked it (and determined it was a largely America-specific trend related to the comments of "officials") and even led to death. The problem was so well known that livestock stores had to restrict sales and the FDA had to make numerous statements for people to stop doing it. The effect of this misinformation and the deaths it caused has been studied and is well documented. For a time, the most common call to Poison Control was related to people taking it and the officials became inundated trying to deal with it.
I mean, apparently you do care since you're fixating on it.
And again, if the election was based off of votes, he would have lost. Why? Because he was not the winner of the popular vote. A majority of voters did not choose him. He was elected based on the process we use in the states, which is influenced by popular vote, but as we've seen lead to situations where the most popular candidate isn't the one who gets elected. This is middle-school level US History and Civics information. He has run 4 times. Lost the popular vote three times. Elected twice. And he is objectively unpopular.
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Even if (more likely "when") Momdani becomes NYC Mayor studies show the richest New Yorkers will stay
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Before October 2025, JPMorgan Chase's global headquarters was located at 383 Madison Avenue in New York City. The company moved to its new headquarters at 270 Park Avenue in October 2025
JP Morgan has moved 0.1 miles around the block -
over 150 have moved out of state:
Whatever you say....
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Former Police Officer Arrested for Posting Trump Meme in Kirk Discussion
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'liberal activist'?
The one-time cop is one of those rare liberals in rural Middle Tennessee and a keyboard warrior known for posting sometimes-provocative progressive memes.
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