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SNAP benefits ( gentally)

Yes, the child will receive benefits as a US citizen, but the parents will not. Those benefits received wouldn't be enough to feed the entire family.
False.

If a household has a U.S.-born child, that child can qualify the household for SNAP. Benefits issued for the child feed the entire household. This is how many mixed-status households legally receive SNAP. In that regard, having a single child citizen (anchor baby) provides many welfare benefits to entire families of illegal or undocumented immigrants.

The truth is illegals ARE receiving the benefits of SNAP in round about ways while not being eligible themselves. So thats that. Mom and dad are getting the stamps for the kids. And if course using that money for the family as a whole. That cannot be denied.
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Harvard conservative magazine is suspended by its own board after publishing article laced with Nazi rhetoric

Post WW2 labour to rebuild Europe mostly came from within Europe.

Migration into Europe from other regions was minor in the immediate post WW2 decades. Migration grew only very slowly through the late 1940s and 1950s and hardly accelerated until the mid 1960s.

For instance, UK migrant growth in the 1940s and 1950s was slower than it was in the 1920s and 1930s. The 'guest worker' programmes of Germany and the Low Countries didn't start until the second half of the 1950s and weren't expanded to countries outside of Western Europe until the 1960s and 1970s.

France was a major exception to this, with large numbers of Vietnamese and Algerian refugees started arriving in the 1940s. This was followed by waves of migration from France's colonial holdings in West Africa in the 1950s and 1960s.

Migration into Western Europe accelerated mildly though the early 1970 to the end of the 1980s. The big change in migration rates really occurs in the early to mid 1990s.

This is primarily related to the end of the Cold War, the formation of the EU and the unwinding of regulatory, practical and economic impediments to migration (on both sides). Put another way, it became cheaper, easier and above all legal for people to move across borders to seek opportunities.
You are correct, but UK/Europe had to "catch up" with the two superpowers (yes I know Stalingrad was nearly a ruins). If you lose 50% of your money, you have to make 100% just to get back to where you were. Hence the urgency beginning in the 1960's.

Plus there's the emotional fact that, Europe learned a lesson from WWII, but it learned the wrong lesson.
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Are professed Christians that worship our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday sinning?

I just explained it in detail for you.

I put a lot of work into explaining that for you.

Hebrew names have meaning. What do you think Yashar Al means?
Forgive my ignorance but I don‘t understand how your explanation of Hebrew reveals who the real Israel is. I don’t understand your cryptic answer. In my understanding the Israel of Jesus time was the real Israel. I have no reason to believe that they were not. Before Jesus crucifixion Jesus lamented for Jerusalem, and consequently Israel.

““Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who have been sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling. Behold, your house is being left to you desolate! For I say to you, from now on you will not see Me until you say, ‘Blessed is the One who comes in the name of the Lord!’ ””
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭23‬:‭37‬-‭39‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Israel rejected the Messiah so their house is left desolate until they accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior.
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TRUMP "MISSED THE DEADLINE" TO CALL OFF TX GERRYMANDERING; CALIFORNIA WILL NOW DRAW NEW, MORE “BEAUTIFUL MAPS”

If anyone's to blame here, it's Congress. Congress has had, since the day the Constitution was ratified, the ability to fix the issue:

If current events have shown us anything, it's that there are precious few people ANYWHERE that want to "fix" this issue. As much as people complain about "fair" elections, it's pretty obvious that most people don't really want that. They want whatever favors them.
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SNAP benefits ( gentally)

Where did I say or even imply that? Don’t flame me because you’re mad you made yourself look like a goofball. You did that to yourself, champ. Making it seem like the issue is I hate poor people after you basically openly admitted as much about yourself reeks of “I know what you are but what am I” and desperation.
Yet you did the exact same thing to me. How quaint.
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TRUMP "MISSED THE DEADLINE" TO CALL OFF TX GERRYMANDERING; CALIFORNIA WILL NOW DRAW NEW, MORE “BEAUTIFUL MAPS”

Frankly all this gerrymandering is horrible and should not be.
There should be commissions in every state.
We can thank this conservative SCOTUS for this hot mess.
Partisan gerrymandering needs to be illegal for everyone.

But thanks to a Republican supreme court, here we are.
The Supreme Court ruled that partisan gerrymandering isn't unconstitutional. And I think they were right to do so. Much as I dislike partisan gerrymandering, I don't think it's unconstitutional. And they certainly didn't disallow any commissions from being made.

If anyone's to blame here, it's Congress. Congress has had, since the day the Constitution was ratified, the ability to fix the issue:

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

In other words, states decide how to hold their House/Senate elections, but congress can change it whenever it wants, with the obvious exception they have to stick with state borders when it comes to Senators. Congress could require every state to set up commissions to set borders, or any other number of things (proportional representation?) that would solve the issue. This has been a known issue since 1812 when the term gerrymander was first created. Congress has had more than 200 years to do something about this. The blame goes there. (though I suppose if congress did step in, they might just make the problem worse by whatever party is in power gerrymandering every state in their favor)
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Democrats clash with ICE over characterization of marijuana farm raid

That sounds like an exceedingly reckless police tactic.

That sounds like an exceedingly reckless police tactic.

Was that your last day on the job?
You don’t know much about law enforcement. He had just robbed someone and was holding a gun out the window. He didn’t politely pull over when I turned the blue lights on. He couldn’t get his arm turned to a position where he could shoot me. It turned out he was the same person who tried to shoot me 10 years earlier. What would have been reckless would have been to let him continue his crime spree
I’m not surprised that you ignore the fact that he robbed someone at gunpoint with a baby in the car and instead criticize the tactics that led to his capture. Your criticism is the equivalent of me trying to tell you why paleomagnetism is bogus
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SNAP benefits ( gentally)

So the issue is that you feel they’re less than you but have more than you?
Nope.
Have you considered working a little bit harder, showing some gumption, and earning those things for yourself without inventorying what others have and resenting them for what you lack?
Why should I? I would be better off quiting my job, getting a divorce but still live with my ex, and live off of the government.
And don’t you think it’s a little bit of a flawed perspective to say that because you can’t afford to eat well, everybody who isn’t as good as you are should starve?
I never claimed to be better than anyone. I also never said that I cannot afford to eat well. But the single moms in my family often brag about the steak and lobster they eat.
Personally, I think of you aren’t eating as well as you should like, you should get a better job, another job, or made a better marriage-match with a richer woman who would have afforded you a better lifestyle you feel befits you.
Again, why should I get a better job when I can make more just sitting on the couch?
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Fr. Josiah On Pornography, and Nick Fuentes

It's worth noting that soon after posting this video Fr. Trenham realized that Fuentes is a fan of Stalin, and that Tucker neglected to press Fuentes on his claim. Therefore Fr. Trenham released a second video denouncing Joseph Stalin. Fr. Trenham notes at the beginning of that video that it was occasioned by Fuentes' admiration of Stalin. Fuentes is also an anti-Semite who is a fan of Hitler, and a staunch white supremacist, among other things.

It would be unfortunate for the folk on CF to misunderstand who Fuentes is.
Thank you for pointing this out. Fuentes is, simply, a bad person, but unfortunately seems to be the future of conservatism.
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Harvard conservative magazine is suspended by its own board after publishing article laced with Nazi rhetoric

Because European cities, industry and infrastructure had been heavily damaged in WWII, They needed to rebuild, which required lots of workers, and if you can get them on the cheap, so much better. Kind of paradoxical - Europe needed it's modern stuff so it wouldn't be a 3rd world place, so they brought the 3rd in, and now...

Post WW2 labour to rebuild Europe mostly came from within Europe.

Migration into Europe from other regions was minor in the immediate post WW2 decades. Migration grew only very slowly through the late 1940s and 1950s and hardly accelerated until the mid 1960s.

For instance, UK migrant growth in the 1940s and 1950s was slower than it was in the 1920s and 1930s. The 'guest worker' programmes of Germany and the Low Countries didn't start until the second half of the 1950s and weren't expanded to countries outside of Western Europe until the 1960s and 1970s.

France was a major exception to this, with large numbers of Vietnamese and Algerian refugees started arriving in the 1940s. This was followed by waves of migration from France's colonial holdings in West Africa in the 1950s and 1960s.

Migration into Western Europe accelerated mildly though the early 1970 to the end of the 1980s. The big change in migration rates really occurs in the early to mid 1990s.

This is primarily related to the end of the Cold War, the formation of the EU and the unwinding of regulatory, practical and economic impediments to migration (on both sides). Put another way, it became cheaper, easier and above all legal for people to move across borders to seek opportunities.
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YSRAL (Israel)

I will present my understanding of the Ancient Hebrew.

YSRAL

Y(Yod) S(Shin) R(Resh) A(Aleph) L(Lamed)

First off, there were no spaces between the otiot (letters) in Ancient Hebrew. The otiot were all written in a single string or word. The spaces to make separate words within the string were added later; thereby those divisions reflect a specific interpretation. Numerous interpretations can be derived from the unbroken string.

Second, Ancient Hebrew is a concrete (as opposed to abstract) language, built on concrete thought. Concrete thought is built on what can be experienced though the senses, and opposed to abstract philosophy.

Third, each ote (letter), in Ancient Hebrew, is a pictograph; and each has it's own meanings, which can be interpreted in different ways.

Fourth, Ancient Hebrew words are built on two ote (letter) roots.

Let's start with the root SH-R (Shin Resh).

The Shin depicts teeth. The Resh depicts a man's head.

The teeth can be interpreted as pressure. The man's head can be interpreted as a beginning.

SH-R is the Hebrew word for cord. To make ancient cords, one would start at the beginning with the fibers, and tightly (pressure) weave them into a cord.

Now lets build a word on SH-R by adding the Y.

Y (Yod) is a pictograph of a hand and arm.

If one holds a cord tight; it becomes straight; just as the righteous one makes a straight path.

YaSHaR means straight in concrete Ancient Hebrew. It is often translated as righteous in abstract Greek thought.

Now let's look at the AL in YSRAL

The A (Aleph) depicts an ox's head. It can be interpreted as headship or strength,

The Greeks took the Ancient Hebrew Aleph-Beyt, and turned the letters upside down and backwards. Then they wrote it from left to right, instead of right to left. Seems like witchcraft to me. The modern English Alphabet evolved from the Ancient Hebrew Aleph-Beyt, through the Ancient Greek alphabet.

If you turn the letter A upside down; you can still see the ox's head, with his horns.

Anyway, I digress.

The L (Lamed) depicts a shepherd's staff. It can be interpreted as guidance or being yoked.

Many people call God El; but if you look at the Ancient Hebrew, you will see that the word is AL (Aleph Lamed)

One interpretation is that your AL (God) is the headship that you are yoked to.

So YSR (YaShaR) AL (AL) can be interpreted as the straight (righteous) headship that you are yoked to (God).

Are professed Christians that worship our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday sinning?

I will give you my interpretation of the Ancient Hebrew.

YSRAL

Y(Yod) S(Shin) R(Resh) A(Aleph) L(Lamed)

First off, there were no spaces between the otiot (letters) in Ancient Hebrew. The otiot were all written in a single string or word. The spaces to make separate words within the string were added later; thereby those divisions reflect a specific interpretation. Numerous interpretations can be derived from the unbroken string.

Second, Ancient Hebrew is a concrete (as opposed to abstract) language, built on concrete thought. Concrete thought is built on what can be experience though the senses, and opposed to abstract philosophy.

Third, each ote (letter), in Ancient Hebrew, is a pictograph; and each has it's own meanings, which can be interpreted in differnt ways.

Fourth, Ancient Hebrew words are built on two ote (letter) roots.

Let's start with the root SH-R (Shin Resh).

The Shin depicts teeth. The Resh depicts a man's head.

The teeth can be interpreted as pressure. The man's head can be interpreted as a beginning.

SH-R is the Hebrew word for cord. To make ancient cords, one would start at the beginning with the fibers, and tightly (pressure) weave them into a cord.

Now lets build a word on SH-R by adding the Y.

Y (Yod) is a pictograph of a hand and arm.

If one holds a cord tight; it becomes straight; just as the righteous one makes a straight path.

YaSHaR means straight in concrete Ancient Hebrew. It is often translated as righteous in abstract Greek thought.

Now let's look at the AL in YSRAL

The A (Aleph) depicts an ox's head. It can be interpreted as headship or strength,

The Greeks took the Ancient Hebrew Aleph-Beyt, and turned the letters upside down and backwards. Then they wrote it from left to right, instead of right to left. Seems like witchcraft to me. The modern English Alphabet evolved from the Ancient Hebrew Aleph-Beyt, through the Ancient Greek alphabet.

If you turn the letter A upside down; you can still see the ox's head, with his horns.

Anyway, I digress.

The L (Lamed) depicts a shepherd's staff. It can be interpreted as guidance or being yoked.

Many people call God El; but if you look at the Ancient Hebrew, you will see that the word is AL (Aleph Lamed)

One interpretation is that your God is the headship that you are yoked to.

So YSR (Yashar) AL (AL) can be interpreted as the straight (righteous) headship that you are yoked to (God).
Ok thanks for the Hebrew lesson but the question was to define what you mean by true Israel.
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Dick Cheney, influential Republican vice president to George W. Bush, dies

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters on Tuesday afternoon only that Trump was "aware" that Dick Cheney died.

"I know the president is aware of the former vice president's passing. And as you saw, flags have been lowered to half staff in accordance with statutory law"
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Are professed Christians that worship our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday sinning?

Define true Israel please.
I will give you my interpretation of the Ancient Hebrew.

YSRAL

Y(Yod) S(Shin) R(Resh) A(Aleph) L(Lamed)

First off, there were no spaces between the otiot (letters) in Ancient Hebrew. The otiot were all written in a single string or word. The spaces to make separate words within the string were added later; thereby those divisions reflect a specific interpretation. Numerous interpretations can be derived from the unbroken string.

Second, Ancient Hebrew is a concrete (as opposed to abstract) language, built on concrete thought. Concrete thought is built on what can be experience though the senses, and opposed to abstract philosophy.

Third, each ote (letter), in Ancient Hebrew, is a pictograph; and each has it's own meanings, which can be interpreted in differnt ways.

Fourth, Ancient Hebrew words are built on two ote (letter) roots.

Let's start with the root SH-R (Shin Resh).

The Shin depicts teeth. The Resh depicts a man's head.

The teeth can be interpreted as pressure. The man's head can be interpreted as a beginning.

SH-R is the Hebrew word for cord. To make ancient cords, one would start at the beginning with the fibers, and tightly (pressure) weave them into a cord.

Now lets build a word on SH-R by adding the Y.

Y (Yod) is a pictograph of a hand and arm.

If one holds a cord tight; it becomes straight; just as the righteous one makes a straight path.

YaSHaR means straight in concrete Ancient Hebrew. It is often translated as righteous in abstract Greek thought.

Now let's look at the AL in YSRAL

The A (Aleph) depicts an ox's head. It can be interpreted as headship or strength,

The Greeks took the Ancient Hebrew Aleph-Beyt, and turned the letters upside down and backwards. Then they wrote it from left to right, instead of right to left. Seems like witchcraft to me. The modern English Alphabet evolved from the Ancient Hebrew Aleph-Beyt, through the Ancient Greek alphabet.

If you turn the letter A upside down; you can still see the ox's head, with his horns.

Anyway, I digress.

The L (Lamed) depicts a shepherd's staff. It can be interpreted as guidance or being yoked.

Many people call God El; but if you look at the Ancient Hebrew, you will see that the word is AL (Aleph Lamed)

One interpretation is that your God is the headship that you are yoked to.

So YSR (Yashar) AL (AL) can be interpreted as the straight (righteous) headship that you are yoked to (God).
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Saintly intercession and purgatory question

I think so. In addition to your own prayers. You can find indulgenced prayers too. Or have a priest offer a mass for the person’s intention. These are all good things to do. And we are so forgetful to do anything for the faithful departed.
Thank you!

Peace
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Are professed Christians that worship our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday sinning?

That would be Israel.
I don’t agree.
The Goyim are no longer Goyim when they are grafted into Israel.
They are. The natural branches are broken off. A Christian believer is not a Jew.
I have read that the ancient Greek word for "believe" is translated as "obey" throughout translations of of secular ancient Greek manuscripts; but that bit is most often translated as "believe" when it comes to the Bible.


Ancient Greek​

Etymology​

From πιθ- (pith-) (zero-grade of the root of πείθω (peíthō, “to persuade; to trust”)) +‎ -τος (-tos, verbal adjective suffix).


Pronunciation​


Adjective​

πῐστός (pistós) m (feminine πῐστή, neuter πῐστόν); first/second declension


  1. (passive voice) faithful, trusty
  2. (active voice)
    1. faithful, believing
    2. obedient, loyal
2 Kings tells us that the Northern Tribes were cut off for their disobedience. Had they believed; they should have obeyed.
πιστεύω pisteúō, pist-yoo'-o; from G4102; to have faith (in, upon, or with respect to, a person or thing), i.e. credit; by implication, to entrust (especially one's spiritual well-being to Christ):—believe(-r), commit (to trust), put in trust with.

I don’t see “obey“ as part of the definition.
(CLV) Ja 1:22
Now become doers of the word, and not only listeners, beguiling yourselves.
Again, who are you addressing this verse to?
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The 2025 Government Shutdown Thread

The Army listed German food banks for soldiers seeking shutdown help

The Army removed the list after German media reported that U.S. troops were using the local food banks, a U.S. official said. It's unclear if any U.S. troops actually did.

Army officials in Germany removed a list of German-run food banks from a “Shutdown Guidance” webpage aimed at soldiers stationed in that country, hours after the list was met with outrage on social media.

The “Shutdown Guidance” page was posted on the official website for U.S. Army Garrison Bavaria, the umbrella command over U.S. bases in Grafenwöhr, Vilseck, Hohenfels and Garmisch. The page listed dozens of resources available to soldiers and their families during the government shutdown, from seeking hardship loans to impacts on base schools.

But at the bottom of the page — as an archived version of the website confirms — was a list of four German food aid groups and one food aid app under the heading “Running list of German support organizations for your kit bags” with the word “German” in italics. The list of German organizations was removed by Wednesday morning when Task & Purpose checked.

The German government announced last month that it would pay about 11,000 local employees who work at U.S. military bases during the federal government shutdown.
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AND HOW ARE YOU SPENDING YOUR TIME ON EARTH TODAY. ??

And here is a warning from 1 COR 3:15 TO ALL. , especially to those that are SAVED by. the GRACE of God !!

# 1 IF. //. EI. is a CONDISTIONAL PARICILE.

# 2 ANY MAN.'S // TIS , is an INDEFINITE PRONOUN in. the GENITIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#. 3. WORK. //. ERGON. is. a NOMINATIVE CASE , in. the SINGULAR in. the NEUTER

#. 4. SHALL BE BURNED // KATAKASIO. in. the FUTURE TENSE in. the PASSIVE VOICE in. the INDICATIVE MOOD in. the SINGULAR

# 5 HE SHALL. SUFFER. LOSS. // in. the FUTURE TENSE , in. the PASSIVE VOICE , in. the INDICATIVE MOOD , in. the SINGULAR

# 6. BUT //. DE. , is a CONJUNCATION

# 7. HE HIMSELF. //. AUTOS. , is a POERSONAL POSSESSEIVE PRONOUN in. the NOMINATIVE CASE , in. the SIGNULAR

# 8 SHALL BE SAVED. //. SOZO , in. the FUTURE TENSE , in. the PASSIVE VOICE , in. the INDICATIVE. MOOD in. the SINGULAR

# 9 YET. //. DE. is a CONJUNCATION

# 10. SO. //. HOUTO. is a ADVERB

# 11. AS. //. HOS. is a ADVERB

# 12. BY //. DIA. is a PREPOSTION

# 13. FIRE. //. PYR. is. in. the GENITIVE CASE , in. the SINGULAR. , in. the NEUTER //

#A THE word FIRE means JUDGEMENT

# B. This JUDGMENT is called the BEMA SEAT JUDGEMENT

# C. And only those Saved by Grace will be there , by Rom 9:9 and 10

# D. And our. MOTTO is in 2 Tim 2:15 to RIGHTLY DIVIDING. THE WORD OF TRUTH !!

# E And in 1 Cor 3:6-9

# F And Paul in. verse 9 that we are Gods FARMERS and Gods Building

# G. And any. is saved by. GRACE , and in. the BODY OF Christ , no one has an. ACCUSE to be teaching Gods GOSPEL

as Paul. did in. Rom 1:1 as Paul was LIMITED to only preach GOD'S GOSPEL //

dan p

the "blue wave" last night and the government shutdown

The Democrats have voted in as mayor of NYC a man who proudly proclaims himself as a Socialist. If the USA becomes under the control of the Socialist wing of the Democratic Party, then America's best days will be long gone behind us.
Sure, but it would help do dig up some decent opposition.
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