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The Thing Most Sabbath Keepers Do not Talk About.

Are you talking about a Friday night dinner?
Right. My wife cooks a nice meal before opening the Sabbath and washes up the cooking utensils. Then we light the candles and say the Sabbath blessings, followed by a nice dinner. Saturday food is cold.
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Persons in creation pre-existing conception?

God's word and Spirit work together. Genesis 1:2 and the Spirit works creation with the spoken word. Genesis 6:3 and the Spirit convicts and guides men... Moses talks with Pharaoh later and Pharaoh responds to the Spirit by sadly hardening his heart.
For Abraham it was not moral performance but the Word and the Spirit. Then good works of obedience came. And faith works by love. Galatians 5:6
It is hard to read off paper and act accordingly.
So Paul writes in Galatians 3:1-15.

Justification by Faith​

3 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you [a]that you should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed [b]among you as crucified? 2 This only I want to learn from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh? 4 Have you suffered so [c]many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain?

5 Therefore He who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you, does He do it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?— 6 just as Abraham “believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” 7 Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham. 8 And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, “In you all the nations shall be blessed.” 9 So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham.

The Law Brings a Curse​

10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.” 11 But that no one is [d]justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for “the just shall live by faith.” 12 Yet the law is not of faith, but “the man who does them shall live by them.”

13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”), 14 that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

The Changeless Promise​

15 Brethren, I speak in the manner of men: Though it is only a man’s covenant, yet if it is confirmed, no one annuls or adds to it. NKJV.

Paul here aligns Abraham's type of faith with the Spirit, also in the referring to Genesis.

The blood of Jesus is powerful and sacred like the Spirit, not annulled, it gives life. The covenant blood, and living water, for always and it's by faith or there is no sustained and perpetuated righteousness.

Acts 2:37. Hearing God's word through Peter, they were cut to the heart and asked for instruction and were given it and repented. The Spirit was there. What was He doing?

So I see infusion taking place, like chocolate stirred into milk.
Sin is in the flesh and we need the Spirit by faith. We are conceived, but did we exist before in human spirit form as sons and daughters of God?
We have no warrant from Scripture to think that we did.
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The Thing Most Sabbath Keepers Do not Talk About.

If you truly want to understand God's Instruction concerning "The Way of the Lord", in my understanding, I would advise that you study the Scriptures themselves as both Paul and Jesus instruct. When you do, you will find that the Pharisees and the rebellious "Jews" were not "Sabbath Keepers" and modern religious Jews teach for doctrines the commandments of men, just as the Rabi's did in Jesus' Time.. And given all the warnings about religious men of our time, "Transforming themselves into apostles of Christ" and "many" deceivers "who come in Christ's Name", and Jesus' warnings about the future fate of many "Christians" who call Him Lord, Lord, I would "Take Heed", "Beware" and be careful of the traditions and philosophies of this world's religious system concerning any of God's instruction.

For instance, the teaching that a man can't have a fire in his home to keep him and his children warm on a Sabbath Day is absurd, and is also not taught in the Scriptures. The God and Father of all sanctified and made this Day Holy "For us", not "against us" as many promoters of this world's religions teach. True believers are "looking for a City" wherein dwells righteousness. In this life we are "preparing" in the Hope that God will accept us, (According to Paul) into this City, God's Rest. An existence apart from the wickedness of this world. In like manner, we toil and tend our "spiritual" vineyards 6 days a week, but on the 7th day, there is a fast from or rest from this toil and we "prepare" for this "rest" during the week. So if It's cold on God's Holy Sabbath, we can build a fire. But in honor and Glory and Respect for our great God, we have already gathered the sticks, split them for a fire and brought them into our home, "before" or in "preparation" for the Holy Day. We have already prepared food for us and our children. Our businesses are closed, we have already purchased everything we need for the day. It's a refuge created for us by God Himself, and it keeps us in remembrance that we are on a journey and to place our faith in God to direct us.
Exodus 35:3
Religious man have always polluted God's Sabbaths, and until Jesus comes back, they always will.

Also, there is nothing in the Bible concerning "certain distances" a man and his family can walk in fellowship, on God's Holy Sabbath. I don't think the Bible teaches it's appropriate to "Travel" to a destination, there are 6 days a week in which to "travel".
Exodus 16:29
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Even if (more likely "when") Momdani becomes NYC Mayor studies show the richest New Yorkers will stay

I was paraphrazing the aphorism, not quoting you.
It looked lie it was being re-stated to fit a certain thought process....
A 2% tax is "draconian", give me a break.
on top of.....

New York City has a local income tax rate that ranges from 3.078% to 3.876%,

and:

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Now add the "only 2%" to that - it becomes 16.17%

Then add the Federal

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In 2025, the federal income tax brackets will be as follows: for single filers, the rates are 10% on income up to $11,925, 12% on income from $11,926 to $48,475, and so on, with the highest rate of 37% applying to income over $626,350. For married couples filing jointly, the rates start at 10% on income up to $23,850 and reach 37% for income over $751,600.

Imagine - $53.00 of every $100.00 going to the government.
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The Thing Most Sabbath Keepers Do not Talk About.

Hi Jerry!

I am glad you have found the Sabbath truth.

Personally for the most part I do not think we should work on the Sabbath, but Jesus said it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath, so we need doctors and nurses and firemen and police officers every day including the Sabbath, so I think there are some exceptions, but even if in these fields, they should try to take the Sabbath off as much as possible.

I do not drink coffee anymore. but make myself herbal tea and use the computer on the Sabbath relating it to God's work- either communicating with people about God or watching sermons.

I do not do dishes on the Sabbath either, they can wait until after Sabbath.

I agree with you that hobbies should be done in the 6 other days God gives us.

I agree with the concept of rest and worship! Sounds like we agree on a lot of things pertaining to the Sabbath!

God is good! I love His Sabbath and look forward to it every week.
Thanks for the response. I’m glad we agree on so many things. I probably wasn’t clear about dish washing. We have special dishes that we only use on Sabbath to make it a little more special, so after opening the Sabbath and having a nice dinner, my wife washes up so we can use the dishes on Saturday. It is also a hygiene thing with us. When it comes to doing good works on the Sabbath, we make sure all the animals are well fed and treat any illnesses or injuries.

I was blessed when it came to not working on the Sabbath. My boss complained about it a lot, but I was protected under the law.
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Does Regeneration Precede Faith?

This is true in narrative, but not gnomic constructions. John isn't sequencing events; he's expressing a theological principle. Participles take their temporal reference from the main verb in narrative or temporal sequences, but in didactic discourse the contrast in aspect is the controlling factor. Requiring a future participle to express sequence is therefore a categorical mistake; Greek participles in gnomic statements convey relationship and aspect, not chronology.
If this is true, then you proved yourself wrong because your OP's contention is that the grammar dictates the chronology you like (i.e., that faith comes after the second birth), but now you say chronology is not indicated.

But even if you are right that the participle should be considered as present tense, there is nothing in the verse to indicate that believing (in the present) did not start in the past. So, since I believe right now, I am born again. But I believed yesterday also. And the day before. And last year. And a decade ago. According to 1 John 5:1a, when did I start believing and when was I born again? If you are right, it doesn't address that at all.
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Does Regeneration Precede Faith?

I have no "argument" with the fact: "Saving faith" (believing Jesus is the Messiah/Christ) comes after the person is regenerated. What I am presenting is the "faith" and actions needed to obtain "regeneration" and thus be saved.
There were lots of people "saved" prior to Christ coming to earth, so how could they place their faith in what Jesus said and did without Him already doing it? Yes, the Old Testament prophecies about the Messiah, but the Bible talks about them believing in God and not the suffering Messiah to come. Hebrews lists Old Testament people of "Faith" but does not say anything about them having "faith" in Jesus.
Again, If a person without the indwelling Holy Spirit (regenerated) confesses to a sincere "faith" in Christ, they would have done something on their own which is worthy of something, but a selfishly motivated sinner willing to humbly accept pure undeserved charity as charity, does nothing honorable/worthy/glorious/holy or righteous. Trust God's Love to be great enough to forgive you.
It seems you're introducing a bifurcation between the ongoing activity of saving faith and its origin. Is that a fair assessment of your view? If so, how do you argue for that from the text itself?

If we agree on the grammar of 1 John 5:1, I don't see the exegetical relevance of your distinction. John presents ὁ πιστεύων in a way that naturally includes both the ongoing nature of faith and its grounding in being born of God. It's a substantival characterization of the subject as "the believing one." What is true of "the believing one"? The perfect indicative, with its emphasis on the abiding result of a prior completed action, supplies the explanation of that characterization: their state as "believer" is grounded in God's prior work in them. To suggest that this prior work is itself contingent on the believer's own "faith and actions needed to obtain regeneration" effectively reverses the causal logic of John's statement.

Even in the Old Testament, those said to have "believed God" (e.g., Abraham) were accounted as righteous because of faith given and sustained by God, not because they generated it autonomously. The same principle applies across redemptive history: the origin of true faith is God's work, whether pre- or post-incarnation.
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Trump live updates: President expands ‘narco’ boat strikes to Pacific Ocean as 8th boat is struck

Smuggling in poison that has killed millions isn't tyranny, but it is narco-terrorism.
Are you talking about booze or tobacco?
And terrorists have it coming.
It's just capitalism.
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Who then can be saved?

I already answered your question, but as usual I need to repeat my answer many time before the penny7 drops for you. I made it clear that nobody apart from God and the saved person know for sure. The rest of the Church members can't know for sure.
According to your theory, Judas Iscariot was a genuine believer. But we found out that he is actually a Devil. So, why should I blindly believe that every professing Christian is a genuine born again believer.
No what I said has nothing to do with Judas. Calvin’s doctrine of total depravity comes from gnostic heresy that was literally refuted by Iranaeus in 170AD in his writing Adversus Haereses which was literally written to refute Gnosticism.

1. Man has received the knowledge of good and evil. It is good to obey God, and to believe in Him, and to keep His commandment, and this is the life of man; as not to obey God is evil, and this is his death. Since God, therefore, gave [to man] such mental power (magnanimitatem) man knew both the good of obedience and the evil of disobedience, that the eye of the mind, receiving experience of both, may with judgment make choice of the better things; and that he may never become indolent or neglectful of God's command; and learning by experience that it is an evil thing which deprives him of life, that is, disobedience to God, may never attempt it at all, but that, knowing that what preserves his life, namely, obedience to God, is good, he may diligently keep it with all earnestness. Wherefore he has also had a twofold experience, possessing knowledge of both kinds, that with discipline he may make choice of the better things. But how, if he had no knowledge of the contrary, could he have had instruction in that which is good? For there is thus a surer and an undoubted comprehension of matters submitted to us than the mere surmise arising from an opinion regarding them. For just as the tongue receives experience of sweet and bitter by means of tasting, and the eye discriminates between black and white by means of vision, and the ear recognises the distinctions of sounds by hearing; so also does the mind, receiving through the experience of both the knowledgeof what is good, become more tenacious of its preservation, by acting in obedience to God: in the first place, casting away, by means of repentance, disobedience, as being something disagreeable and nauseous; and afterwards coming to understand what it really is, that it is contrary to goodness and sweetness, so that the mind may never even attempt to taste disobedience to God. But if any one do shun the knowledge of both these kinds of things, and the twofold perception of knowledge, he unawares divests himself of the character of a human being.



2. How, then, shall he be a God, who has not as yet been made a man? Or how can he be perfect who was but lately created? How, again, can he be immortal, who in his mortal nature did not obey his Maker? For it must be that you, at the outset, should hold the rank of a man, and then afterwards partake of the glory of God. For you did not make God, but God you. If, then, you are God's workmanship, await the hand of your Maker which creates everything in due time; in due time as far as you are concerned, whose creation is being carried out. Offer to Him your heart in a soft and tractable state, and preserve the form in which the Creator has fashioned you, having moisture in yourself, lest, by becoming hardened, you lose the impressions of His fingers. But by preserving the framework you shall ascend to that which is perfect, for the moist clay which is in you is hidden [there] by the workmanship of God. His hand fashioned your substance; He will cover you over [too] within and without with pure gold and silver, and He will adorn you to such a degree, that even the King Himself shall have pleasure in your beauty. But if you, being obstinately hardened, reject the operation of His skill, and show yourself ungrateful towards Him, because you were created a [mere] man, by becoming thus ungrateful to God, you have at once lost both His workmanship and life. For creation is an attribute of the goodness of God but to be created is that of human nature. If then, you shall deliver up to Him what is yours, that is, faith towards Him and subjection, you shall receive His handiwork, and shall be a perfect work of God.



3. If, however, you will not believe in Him, and will flee from His hands, the cause of imperfection shall be in you who did not obey, but not in Him who called [you]. For He commissioned [messengers] to call people to the marriage, but they who did not obeyHim deprived themselves of the royal supper. Matthew 22:3, etc. The skill of God, therefore, is not defective, for He has power of the stones to raise up children to Abraham; Matthew 3:9but the man who does not obtain it is the causeto himself of his own imperfection. Nor, [in like manner], does the light fail because of those who have blinded themselves; but while it remains the same as ever, those who are [thus] blinded are involved in darkness through their own fault. The light does never enslave any one by necessity; nor, again, does God exercise compulsion upon any one unwilling to accept the exercise of His skill. Those persons, therefore, who have apostatized from the light given by the Father, and transgressed the law of liberty, have done so through their own fault, since they have been created free agents, and possessed of power over themselves.



4. But God, foreknowing all things, prepared fit habitations for both, kindly conferring that light which they desire on those who seek after the light of incorruption, and resort to it; but for the despisers and mockers who avoid and turn themselves away from this light, and who do, as it were, blind themselves, He has prepared darkness suitable to persons who oppose the light, and He has inflicted an appropriate punishment upon those who try to avoid being subject to Him. Submission to God is eternal rest, so that they who shun the light have a place worthy of their flight; and those who fly from eternal rest, have a habitation in accordance with their fleeing. Now, since all good things are with God, they who by their own determination fly from God, do defraud themselves of all good things; and having been [thus] defrauded of all good things with respect to God, they shall consequently fall under the just judgment of God. For those persons who shun rest shall justly incur punishment, and those who avoid the light shall justly dwell in darkness. For as in the case of this temporal light, those who shun it do deliver themselves over to darkness, so that they do themselves become the cause to themselves that they are destitute of light, and do inhabit darkness; and, as I have already observed, the light is not the cause of such an [unhappy] condition of existence to them; so those who fly from the eternal light of God, which contains in itself all good things, are themselves the cause to themselves of their inhabiting eternal darkness, destitute of all good things, having become to themselves the cause of [their consignment to] an abode of that nature.

St Iranaeus 170AD Adversus Haereses Book 4 Chapter 39
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Trump live updates: President expands ‘narco’ boat strikes to Pacific Ocean as 8th boat is struck

You're equating Americans dying from illegal drugs with deployment of nuclear or biological or chemical weapons. I simply can't accept that equation.

Here we go. Sorry for the delay in getting this posted for you. This is nonpartisan, he's a Yale law professor explaining both sides of the legal argument and explaining the case Trump has and why it's probably perfectly legal for Trump to blow up boats.

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Who then can be saved?

The "Justice" in man becoming justified is not a direct or indirect result of turning to God in faith. It is 100% the result of being elected onto salvation, before the world was created.
How can a dead man conjure up saving faith, I assume you believe what God said about the sate of everyone being born dead in sin.
He can't-faith is a gift from God. But a lost man can decide if he'll let himself be found, a sick man can refuse the cure. He may prefer to carry on the family tradition of autonomy from God, of pride and preference of self over Him. Either way "justice" or righteousness for man consists fully in his existing in a state of union with Him, regardless of how we believe he gets there.

"Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in him." John 6:53-56

“Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me. I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing." John 15:4-5
The only ones who abide in Christ and persevere to the end are the elect, because we are indwelt by he Holy Spirit and He is the One who keeps us abiding and persevering. If we had any say in the matter, then we would all end up in hell. Salvation is of the Lord, it is not of you or your ability to save yourself and remain saved.
We know the elect will be those who persevere to the end, and we know that grace is essential in that coming to pass, but to say that we know who those "we" are with perfect certainty is to avoid the passages that affirm that one can freely resist and/or turn away. A sinner is already willfully resisting grace-and all believers sin. Which will we really choose in the end: good, or evil? Our actions will bear witness to our choices, to our heart's orientation, to our love to put it best.
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Lets have an open discussion on Heaven.

Indeed - and furthermore, we know that there are some glorified saints who are physically with Him in Heaven even now - the Blessed Virgin Mary, St. Elias (Elijah), St. Moses, possibly St. Enoch, and others we may not know about.

The others are with him as pneumatic beings until the Resurrection. However given the eternal nature of God, we should not fear any kind of long period of heavenly boredom before the resurrection.
Don’t forget about the martyrs under the altar (Rev. 6:9).
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Bill Gates Says Climate Change ‘Will Not Lead to Humanity’s Demise’

Is it safe to say then, that the climate change emergency, was science fiction? And that the scientists used biased models in their data sets?

...Or was this a political lever the whole time?

WHO LIED TO US..???? And WHY..??
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Trump third term

Mamdani is a socialist not a communist so your question is based on a false premise.
...But Government-owned grocery stores are a defining feature of Communism.

But with a Monarchy, such as with having a King Trump, we would still function economically, as is.
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