AI and I stumbled on something huge that could change the world in the next few years
- By timewerx
- The Kitchen Sink
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The last few weeks, chatgpt had a dramatic change of opinion regarding my concept when I ran it through chatgpt again. I found an almost identical machine in existence which chatgpt compared against my concept and saw it will fail my objective. Chatgpt said my concept engine will not work!
I wasn't convinced at first but after long and many exchanges and with chatgpt walking me through the problem, I budged in.
It seemed that chatgpt is much harder to make it agree to you now under reason and by keeping to realistic parameters. My initial solution resulted to a much bulkier and costly version with power density not better than PV solar energy and even end more expensive to both procure and maintain.
The main source of the problem are two components having very poor efficiency. Theoretically, a much more efficient design is possible without violating physics, unfortunately no one has figured it out yet. Such design is yet to be discovered / invented.
Thankfully, I found a much better solution that required modifying the process itself which eliminated dependency on those two very inefficient components. Chatgpt never thought about it though it suggested solutions but not even remotely as good and only slightly improved the estimated power density and I have to figure out the solution on my own.
The latest outcome is an engine with a power density that could exceed power density of gas turbine (jet) engines. But with the unique ability to use nothing else but ambient heat from air or water and significantly boosted by the latent heat energy of condensing moisture from air.
We had another debate that it's violating the laws of physics. I'm insisting it violates physics but chatgpt said it doesn't violate the laws of physics. Case in point - if the air got colder than the engine core or drops to 0 Kelvin, the engine stops working. The engine takes heat from the environment to produce work or power output, therefore, the environment is cooled in the process. If heat is not replenished, the local environment eventually gets colder than the engine and the engine stops working.
So it's not violating the conservation of energy. Traditionally, we think of cooling as requiring work because all our lives we see our fridge plugged to an outlet because it's moving the heat from pt A to pt B and that requires work! What the vast majority are not aware is you can also cool something by putting its heat to work!
It doesn't violate the 2nd law thermodynamics either because the fully reversible process is able to keep the entropy constant despite having the losses. The engine has a unique ability to recycle/recover waste heat / losses it produces and can leverage latent heat energy for additional power.
There are industries intimately familiar with it and put the knowledge to work so I'm not just making this up. But different objectives, excessive attachment to tradition cause excessive fear of breaking taboos in science or engineering even if the physical laws themselves are not violated.
It may seem like a perpetual motion machine from human perspective but it's not. Cover the entire earth with these engines that are painted in white, make them power very bright lights and point these lights to outer space that will cool the entire Earth below the temperature of these engines and the engines will stop working. If the Sun goes dark for some reason and the earth cools to below the working temperature of the engine, the engine stops working. But as it is, we don't expect the Sun to go dark in the next millions of years, giving us inexaustible supply of Sun-warmed air and water/oceans. Indirectly, it's still solar power but since it's able take advantage of very high mass flow rate to take heat from air or water, the power densities can be much higher than either PV or solar heater/boilers, as high as power densities of gas turbine engines.
It's simply an extraordinarily efficient heat engine that may require revision of how we calculate energy efficiency. Nothing wrong with the formulas but the frame of reference used (room temperature) as frame of reference may eventually need revision. Current frame of reference completely ignores the vast quantity of stored solar heat energy in the 300 degree Kelvin (more or less) temperature of air at ground level, and ocean surface temperatures.
This ambient heat is available 24/7 and the power density is high enough to power the biggest jet airliners at same performance levels! Unlike solar or wind power, it can reliably meet demand in all weather and seasons. High power density enable units smaller than car engines to power an entire home day and night, all year round.
Eliminates need for highly dangerous and toxic batteries and combustible fuel. Airliners can be retro-fitted by these engines, will permit unlimited flight range, makes crashes much more survivable by eliminating post-crash fire and significantly reduced air fare cost. The high power density more than sufficient to power high performance aircraft means this engine can replace all other sources of power and can even power high performance vehicles.
"Exhaust" is nothing more than cold air + condensed water vapor cloud or ice crystals/snow or cold water (in marine applications). The cold air exhaust will also condense moisture in the air and high mass flow rates, this engine will also provide you with large quantities of clean, cold water. The cold exhaust can also rapidly cool beverages. In hot summers, it's free air-conditioning.
It can recycle its own waste heat and engine runs much colder than its environment and exhausts much colder air or water.
100% global energy adoption will surely reverse global warming. Additionally, the engine's ability to cool the local environment, high water condensation rates, only cold air/water as exhaust, large numbers of it can reforest entire deserts like the Sahara while also powering cities at the same time! It will restore Earth's climate many centuries back and lower local temperatures, lower humidity could even possibly reduce intensity of hurricanes and tornadoes or even divert dissipate them entirely.
Incredible possibilities, unlimited range planes, unlimited range cars, unlimited range helicopters, supersonic jets that can fly nonstop around the world. Drones with unlimited range and loiter endurance. Much safer planes that doesn't end up in a huge ball of fire when crash (it's not carrying any fuel, nor huge batteries!). Saving many lives in the process with much safer transport, zero pollution, actively cooling and cleaning the atmosphere, preventing/mitigating heat waves, and even possibly diverting / preventing hurricanes/tornadoes.
Sorry for still being so vague about it but I think there's probably enough clue in this post to give someone the slightest idea how it works!
I'm going to give this concept a rest now. The real work won't start until I find a job that gives me more free time. I don't think that's happening any time soon.
And AI chatbots are becoming more annoying. It's getting more tiresome to debate with them and the last time, I found the solution on my own. Ironically, even though chatgpt is quite familiar with the components involved in the solution, did not even remotely suggested them. Still less intelligent than humans.
I wasn't convinced at first but after long and many exchanges and with chatgpt walking me through the problem, I budged in.
It seemed that chatgpt is much harder to make it agree to you now under reason and by keeping to realistic parameters. My initial solution resulted to a much bulkier and costly version with power density not better than PV solar energy and even end more expensive to both procure and maintain.
The main source of the problem are two components having very poor efficiency. Theoretically, a much more efficient design is possible without violating physics, unfortunately no one has figured it out yet. Such design is yet to be discovered / invented.
Thankfully, I found a much better solution that required modifying the process itself which eliminated dependency on those two very inefficient components. Chatgpt never thought about it though it suggested solutions but not even remotely as good and only slightly improved the estimated power density and I have to figure out the solution on my own.
The latest outcome is an engine with a power density that could exceed power density of gas turbine (jet) engines. But with the unique ability to use nothing else but ambient heat from air or water and significantly boosted by the latent heat energy of condensing moisture from air.
We had another debate that it's violating the laws of physics. I'm insisting it violates physics but chatgpt said it doesn't violate the laws of physics. Case in point - if the air got colder than the engine core or drops to 0 Kelvin, the engine stops working. The engine takes heat from the environment to produce work or power output, therefore, the environment is cooled in the process. If heat is not replenished, the local environment eventually gets colder than the engine and the engine stops working.
So it's not violating the conservation of energy. Traditionally, we think of cooling as requiring work because all our lives we see our fridge plugged to an outlet because it's moving the heat from pt A to pt B and that requires work! What the vast majority are not aware is you can also cool something by putting its heat to work!
It doesn't violate the 2nd law thermodynamics either because the fully reversible process is able to keep the entropy constant despite having the losses. The engine has a unique ability to recycle/recover waste heat / losses it produces and can leverage latent heat energy for additional power.
There are industries intimately familiar with it and put the knowledge to work so I'm not just making this up. But different objectives, excessive attachment to tradition cause excessive fear of breaking taboos in science or engineering even if the physical laws themselves are not violated.
It may seem like a perpetual motion machine from human perspective but it's not. Cover the entire earth with these engines that are painted in white, make them power very bright lights and point these lights to outer space that will cool the entire Earth below the temperature of these engines and the engines will stop working. If the Sun goes dark for some reason and the earth cools to below the working temperature of the engine, the engine stops working. But as it is, we don't expect the Sun to go dark in the next millions of years, giving us inexaustible supply of Sun-warmed air and water/oceans. Indirectly, it's still solar power but since it's able take advantage of very high mass flow rate to take heat from air or water, the power densities can be much higher than either PV or solar heater/boilers, as high as power densities of gas turbine engines.
It's simply an extraordinarily efficient heat engine that may require revision of how we calculate energy efficiency. Nothing wrong with the formulas but the frame of reference used (room temperature) as frame of reference may eventually need revision. Current frame of reference completely ignores the vast quantity of stored solar heat energy in the 300 degree Kelvin (more or less) temperature of air at ground level, and ocean surface temperatures.
This ambient heat is available 24/7 and the power density is high enough to power the biggest jet airliners at same performance levels! Unlike solar or wind power, it can reliably meet demand in all weather and seasons. High power density enable units smaller than car engines to power an entire home day and night, all year round.
Eliminates need for highly dangerous and toxic batteries and combustible fuel. Airliners can be retro-fitted by these engines, will permit unlimited flight range, makes crashes much more survivable by eliminating post-crash fire and significantly reduced air fare cost. The high power density more than sufficient to power high performance aircraft means this engine can replace all other sources of power and can even power high performance vehicles.
"Exhaust" is nothing more than cold air + condensed water vapor cloud or ice crystals/snow or cold water (in marine applications). The cold air exhaust will also condense moisture in the air and high mass flow rates, this engine will also provide you with large quantities of clean, cold water. The cold exhaust can also rapidly cool beverages. In hot summers, it's free air-conditioning.
It can recycle its own waste heat and engine runs much colder than its environment and exhausts much colder air or water.
100% global energy adoption will surely reverse global warming. Additionally, the engine's ability to cool the local environment, high water condensation rates, only cold air/water as exhaust, large numbers of it can reforest entire deserts like the Sahara while also powering cities at the same time! It will restore Earth's climate many centuries back and lower local temperatures, lower humidity could even possibly reduce intensity of hurricanes and tornadoes or even divert dissipate them entirely.
Incredible possibilities, unlimited range planes, unlimited range cars, unlimited range helicopters, supersonic jets that can fly nonstop around the world. Drones with unlimited range and loiter endurance. Much safer planes that doesn't end up in a huge ball of fire when crash (it's not carrying any fuel, nor huge batteries!). Saving many lives in the process with much safer transport, zero pollution, actively cooling and cleaning the atmosphere, preventing/mitigating heat waves, and even possibly diverting / preventing hurricanes/tornadoes.
Sorry for still being so vague about it but I think there's probably enough clue in this post to give someone the slightest idea how it works!
I'm going to give this concept a rest now. The real work won't start until I find a job that gives me more free time. I don't think that's happening any time soon.
And AI chatbots are becoming more annoying. It's getting more tiresome to debate with them and the last time, I found the solution on my own. Ironically, even though chatgpt is quite familiar with the components involved in the solution, did not even remotely suggested them. Still less intelligent than humans.
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