iluvatar5150 said:

The way her hand is moving south makes me think she’s really been studying The Donald.

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When you're a failed candidate, they let you do it.

GenemZ said:

First world was created for the angels dominion... Just as the animals of this creation were designed for Adam's dominion.

When Adam fell? Animals were transformed, as well as plant life.
The power of God to transform animals was highlighted with the serpent when God transformed it from being a creature of great beauty into a frightening, degraded manifestation .... Also, thorns and thistles began popping up. As well as some animals began to eat other animals as prey.

Likewise?... when Satan fell? The animals of that prehistoric angelic kingdom also fell. Transforming animals into having some evil looking creatures.. Flesh eaters like raptors and T-Rex, became representative in their function of Satan and aggressive fallen angels, devouring more peaceful creatures they could prey upon.

Both ours and the prehistoric creations were parallel in principle. Yet, different. Different to suite the ones who God had placed in positions of dominion over their own world.

grace and peace ......................

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You have no Biblical evidence that animals existed on the earth of Genesis 1:1

thicket said:

and he is manifesting great powers. He repents and in the future is using the same tactics to get wealth. He also has a heretical biblically incorrect teaching pattern often. But my thoughts keep coming back---he causes 1,000s to fall under his power? How can this be?

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Who exactly are you talking about?

I dont go to church either. I have gone to several churches and none of which I would go back to because of various reasons. I watch and do Church and Bible study at home and I probally do more than I would guess that most Church going christians do since I dont watch tv except the news and some pure flix and the rest of the time its Bible teaching of some kind going on. I dont know if I will attempt to go to a church no more because the ones I have gone to were so seriously messed up and I dont want to risk going back to another one at least for now.

FireDragon76 said:

Life is never, ever that simple.

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Life is that simple. It is not, however, easy. Thinking someone in or some group in power can make it easy is foolish and only makes it even harder.

Tranquil Bondservant said:

[Edit: I've left the website but feel free to continue contributing to the threads I've made. Iron sharpens iron. Isaiah 1:18.]
I have spent a bunch of time compiling many of the passages that speak about The Angel of The Lord. Reading these has left me in awe many times and I'm so grateful that our Lord God Christ is shown so clearly. These are all of the passages that through Bible Dictionaries and cross referencing I have been able to find. It has been a bit hard because due to the nature of The Angel of The Lord (pre-incarnate Christ) some are deductive and it's not just listing Scripture where it's immediately overtly explicit. Though it is explicit but as you will see words like "an Angel of The Lord" do not inherently mean "The Angel of The Lord", though some "an Angel of The Lord" references are referencing The Angel of The Lord (who is God). I figured I would share some of my study notes as well as the list of scriptures as I have benefited greatly from it and I thought maybe it might help someone else either currently or in the future. Also if I have missed any I would be tremendously grateful if you could post them as personally this subject is of immense importance and value to me. I really didn't expect it to be a mammoth of a task, I only thought there were some Christophanies. I had no idea there were so many. It was a very welcome, great and awesome surprise.

The references to arguments against "accretion" will become clear in the study notes I post in the second post of this thread. It had to do with something I came across while researching that is quite honestly in my opinion, obscene and insane argumentation that makes little sense in light of Christ. If you're just looking for the passages then please ignore them.

The List does not reference the full chapters in which He is mentioned. So when reading specific references in order to get the context of the Christophanies/Theophanies it would be best if you read the surrounding verses or chapter that is listed. Or not, do whatever you want xD. The list itself also has the specific names that are referencing the being of The Angel of The Lord. All research was done with the NASB1995 and therefore the references and language used will be congruent with that specific translation. God bless you all and all glory to our awesome and loving Lord God. I pray that this subject of the awesome gift that is The Scriptures strengthens your faith and reverence for God as it did mine.

The Angel of The Lord Passages​

Genesis 16:7, 9, 10, 11 (The Angel of The Lord)

Genesis 17:1 (The Lord)

Genesis 18:1 (The Lord)

Genesis 21:17 (The Angel of God) [Here God hears and the Angel of God responds, which again argues against an accretion (from literally Genesis it argues against it lol)]

Genesis 22:11, 15 (The Angel of The Lord) [Genesis 22:12 He calls Himself God]

Genesis 31:11-13 (The Angel of God) [He calls Himself God here again]

Exodus 3:2-6 (The Angel of The Lord) [He Calls Himself God here again]

Exodus 14:19 (The Angel of God)

Exodus 13:21 (The Lord, though this is an Angel according to Numbers 20:16, so the same being)

Exodus 14:19 (The angel of God, Cross reference: Ex 13:21, Num 20:16, 1 Cor 10:1-4)

Exodus 23:20-21 (An Angel, but “my name is in Him”)

Exodus 23:20-23 (an Angel, My Angel)

Exodus 32:34 (My Angel)

Numbers 22: 22-27, 31-35 (The Angel of The Lord)

Joshua 5:13-15 (Commander of The Army of The Lord)

Judges 2:1, 4 (The Angel of The Lord)

Judges 5:23 (the angel of the Lord)

Judges 6:11-12, 21-22 (The Angel of The Lord)

Judges 6:20 (The Angel of God)

Judges 13:3, 13, 15-18, 20-21 (The Angel of The Lord)

Judges 13:6, 18 (Man of God, Manoah was confused as evidenced by 13:16) [Isa 9:6 cross reference to the name which prophesies about our Saviour: Wonderful]

Judges 13:9 (The Angel of God)

2 Samuel 24:16 (the angel of the Lord)

1 Kings 19:17 (The angel of the Lord)

2 Kings 1:3 (the angel of the Lord)

2 Kings 1:15 (The angel of the Lord)

2 Kings 19:35 (the Angel of The Lord)

1 Chronicles 21:12, 15, 16, 18, 27, 30 (the angel of the Lord, v.27 the angel)

2 Chronicles 32:21 (an angel, it’s The Angel of The Lord: 2 Kings 19:35)

Isaiah 37:36 (the angel of the Lord)

Isaiah 63:9 (the angel of His presence)

Zechariah 1:11-12 (The Angel of The Lord) (v.12 distinctly Trinitarian like Christ’s baptism and His prayers, The Angel of The Lord who is Elohim asks Elohim a question)

Zechariah 3:1, 5-7 (The Angel of The Lord) (v.7 is Trinitarian as The angel of The Lord who is Elohim speaks for Elohim as if He is distinct)

Zechariah 12:8 (The Angel of The Lord) [Wow what an awesome prophecy] [This also proves that the Israelites saw Him as distinct, just like they did in judges with Manoah. So it can’t be argued as an accretion]

Potential passages​

Genesis 24:7 (His Angel, the Angel is being sent from God. The Son was sent too.)

Genesis 32:30 (Genesis 32:29 cross reference Judges 13:18? “Why do you ask my name?”)

Genesis 48:15-16 (The Angel is equated with God “Redeemed him from all evil”)

Numbers 20:16 (The Angel here is the being who was called the Lord in Exodus 13:21)

Daniel 3:25

Daniel 6:22

Mentions of The Angel of The Lord but not Christophanies/Theophanies​

Psalm 34:7 (The angel of the Lord)

Psalm 35:5 (the angel of the Lord)

Psalm 35:6 (the angel of The Lord)

Miscellaneous
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1 Corinthians 10:1-4 [Paul states here explicitly that the being who followed the Israelites in Exodus was Christ]

• V. 1 reference b (Exodus 13:21)
• V. 4 reference a (Exodus 17:6)

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I strongly suggest you the book "Angelomorphic Christology" by Charles A. Gieschen

There is something called "abstinence education" that was used when my daughter was in school. Her objection was that it promulgated misinformation about effectiveness of birth control, etc. to prevent sexual activity.

Her religious training always taught her it is wrong to lie and deceive, even in order to obtain good outcome.

She also said because kids knew they were being lied to they rejected even the good things about the program.

Romans 13:1 says “Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.” Some may find it odd that the topic of God and education would begin with a Verse having to do with the governing authorities, but in countries like the U.S., it appears that some government authorities have taken an interest in what is made available and what is taught in schools and colleges. Given the coverage of the quest by certain governing jurisdictions to withhold certain facts and ideas, may compel us to ask if that serves God’s purpose.

The earliest incidence of God withholding knowledge is found in Genesis when He forbade Adam and Eve to eat from the Tree of Good and Evil. To the extent we’re are aloud under Isaiah 1:18, we might reason that God may have had no problem with them knowing what good is, but He may have had a problem with their knowing what evil is. But after they acquired that knowledge from eating the forbidden fruit, it would seem, from reading the New Testament, that God resolved that it is better that people know what both good and evil are, that they may hopefully strive for what is good, than for them to know only what it is to be good. Seems that to know what one is, and not the other as well, is to only know the geographic term “longitude” without knowing what “latitude” is, causing one to drift toward unchartered waters having evil perils that await.

A reading of the New Testament compels one to surmise that as far as God is concerned there are two types of education toward righteousness: One type involves knowing what God is in terms of what He expects from us, and the other is knowing what God isn’t and what He regards as sinful. One can get a better understanding of what God wants from us if we also know what He doesn’t want from us.

To wit, 1 Thessalonians 5:21 says to test everything and hold fast what is good. Well, it would seem that if you are not aware of all the variables associated with good and evil, how would you know what to test and how to test it? And it would seem that testing anything involves some degree of exposure to the subject matter, but, in light of the testing itself, that may not necessarily mean that such exposure causes one to turn away from God and His precepts. To learn about something is not the same as to subscribe to it. In our quest to test things in terms of whether they stand for God, we may learn abut things that fall under the sins of evil that God abhors, but that doesn’t mean we would turn away from God and become evil ourselves.

Some, perhaps like the governing authorities who are busy purging books from school libraries and forbidding the teachings of certain things in schools and colleges, may believe that a temptation will be formed and exist to lore people toward the sins they learn about. If so, are they really governing under God? Did God decree that it is a sin to learn OF certain things, as opposed to LEARNING certain things? If so, then how are we to test things?

Some might say, ‘Leave it up to us who govern under God, to discern what is good and what is evil, and to enact laws that shield you from what we the government believe to be evil; and this we will do when you vote for us.” But does a passage like 1 Thessalonians 5:21 say something like, ‘You who govern, test everything for the people’? The Bible strongly implies that the responsibility of knowing what is right and wrong is up to each individual. Galatians 6: 4-5 says to “let each one test his own work...For each will have to bear his own load.”

Two things to share with you. One of these things is brought up in light of governing jurisdictions in the U.S. who are at least considering the banning of certain math books, if they haven’t been already banned: Acts 7:22 says that Moses “was instructed in all the wisdom of the Egyptians, and he was mighty in his words and deeds.” Commentators have written that the things that Moses was taught by the Egyptians included mathematics. Were those Egyptians concerned with what Moses would do with what they teach him? Did those Egyptians consult their Pharoah or those who worked for him before teaching Moses certain things?

And, as far as our God is concerned, Daniel 1:17 says “God gave [Daniel] learning and skill in ALL LITERATURE and wisdom, and Daniel had understanding in all visions and dreams.” ALL LITERATURE, get it? ‘Huckleberry Finn,’ anyone? I understand that Huckleberry Finn is one of the books being considered for banning in certain schools where the government here in the U.S. is keeping a close watch on what books are in school libraries. Is that a government under God? Would God approve of that?

Landon Caeli said:

Russian reservists fighting with shovels​

Ukraine war: Russian reservists fighting with shovels - UK defence ministry

Troops could be engaging in hand-to-hand combat in Ukraine, Britain's defence ministry says.

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Holy 40k…

newton3005 said:

Does prayer help you get what you need, or is it merely a confirmation to God of how He has predestined you? John 15:7 says “If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.”

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Abiding in the Lord means you've submitted yourself to the Lord to let His Holy Spirit work in you to be come Christlike in mind, heart and action. Letting His word abide in you means you're conforming to his ways and commands.

This result in being so in tune with Him, that you end up praying His will and because it's His will, it will be done for you.

I'm thinking even at work, we should have pj day.

Michie said:

I need to read the book about him. I really don’t know that much about him.

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He was very much into the sacrament.
His mom was agnostic/atheist?
He did not come into the world of a family of faith but [and here's where I forget details] he had graces from the Lord and from a young un he craved the Church/Lord/Eucharist.

Which is why he studied and recorded all the miracles of the Eucharist.

After his spiritual remarks, O'Keefe brought a Pfizer whistleblower on stage to share her story of exposing corruption.

WASHINGTON, D.C. (LifeSiteNews) –– Project Veritas founder James O’Keefe delivered remarks at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) today and told the audience that we are going through “a spiritual war… a fight of good and evil,” before bringing a Pfizer whistleblower on stage with him to have her share her story.

He made the remarks about the spiritual battle while pointing to a still-shot of the Sacred and Immaculate Hearts of Jesus and Mary, which were hanging in the restaurant where his outlet recorded a video of a Pfizer employee admitting the pharmaceutical giant engages in the “directed evolution” of viruses.

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The question at the heart of this week’s “Crossroads” podcast (click here to tune that in) was not whether Springfield (Ill.) Bishop Thomas Paprocki was on target with his First Things essay that all but accused San Diego Cardinal Robert McElroy of heresy.

The question was not whether Cardinal Jean-Claude Hollerich of Luxembourg — a strategic leader in the Vatican’s Synod on Synodality — was right when he said the church's teaching on homosexuality are “no longer correct,” and added, “I think it is time for a fundamental revision of the doctrine."

The question was not whether Chicago Cardinal Blase Cupich was correct when he suggested, in print, that priests should absolve Catholics who come to Confession, allowing them to receive Holy Communion, even if these individuals refuse to repent of behaviors that Catholic doctrine insists are sin.

The question was not what Pope Francis meant when he told bishops in the Congo, “Always. Always forgive in the Sacrament of Reconciliation” — even if there is confusion about whether penitents are repenting of their sins or not.

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At the Sunday Angelus, Pope Francis explains how the Transfiguration of Jesus reveals the beauty and splendour of divine Love incarnate in Christ. He encourages us to recognize this luminous beauty of love, even when it bears the marks of the cross.

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P.S. just FYI. ADD is no way correlated to Psychosis, or stalking, or mental health problems in general.

It is simply a disorder where people have a hard time, keeping their attention on things that are not highly stimulating mentally.

If a person has stalking behaviors or is psychotic or threatening in anyway, they may or may not have ADD but the ADD itself Will never be the cause of any kind of dangerous behavior.

Tigger45 said:

That’s awesome thanks for posting Michie!

It’s quite the conundrum. On one hand pets add so much to the happiness and well-being of a person’s life, especially to the elderly but on the other hand an elderly person will typically pass away before the pet which leaves the pet homeless. Good on Angela Rafuse for *refusing* to allow those life and love giving animals to then later suffer in their subsequent life.

I myself only acquire rescue animals not wanting to encourage breeding animals for profit that just propitiates the euthanasia of homeless animals.

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Amen to that. I rescue as well. We need more compassionate people to help!

Around the US and UK, dozens of animal hospitals have a catch-all when it comes to grieving pet parents who have lost a furry friend: they give them the poem Rainbow Bridge.

Yet this poem that has touched millions of peoples’ hearts has remained largely authorless for years until the sleuth work of an art historian and cat owner Paul Koudounaris, who managed to turn up the original poet decades after Rainbow Bridge became famous.

Her name is Edna Clyne-Rekhy, an 82-year-old Scottish artist and animal lover who traveled the world, and failed to notice her poem’s popularity.

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Cats often get a bad rap for being loners, but one lucky kitty trapped under rubble in the Turkish quakes, will not allow himself to be parted from his rescuer.

When the devastating earthquakes hit Gaziantep in Turkey, they struck a country where cats are loved harder than perhaps any other.

A viral post on social media saw a Turkish firefighter named Ali Cakas with a dust-covered cat perched on his shoulder. Cakas found the animal buried in the rubble where it had been for ten days.

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A large research project studying endangered species in Australia has tallied 29 recovered species—all animals that can be safely de-listed from the country’s endangered species list.

Australia’s Protection and Biodiversity Conservation (EPBC) Act currently lists 446 species of animals in genuine need of protection, but 29 of those are no longer in need—15 mammals, 8 birds, 4 frogs, a reptile, and a fish.

Among these critters are the golden, Western barred, and Eastern barred bandicoots, Western quoll, sooty albatross, waterfall frog, Flinder’s Range worm-lizard, yellow-footed rock wallabies, greater bilby, humpback whale, growling grass frog, Murray’s cod, and others.

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A farm staff was stunned after it learned that one clever sheep had been unlocking a gate to let herself and her pals roam free.

The Whitehouse Farm Centre in Morpeth, England, had no suspects for the rash of break-outs in their barn.

They were left baffled when Lucy the one-year-old Leicester sheep and her two fellow ewes repeatedly escaped.

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Birds of a feather really do flock together according to a new study that found flamingos with similar personality traits “form cliques” with like-minded friends.

In Chilean and Caribbean flamingos, birds with similar personality traits tended to form cliques separate from differently-wired peers, much like humans.

For example, bolder birds were shown to stick together, whilst more submissive flamingos formed another group.

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A mother who was told her 1-pound-11-ounce baby “would not survive” after arriving three months early now says he’s defied the odds and is thriving.

Saniah Poindexter was 19 when she discovered she was pregnant.

She was having a normal pregnancy until 26 weeks later, when Saniah came home from college with a stomach ache and a sky-high temperature.

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