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UNWAVR - Christian DnB/Trap

Nice song, keep at it if it makes you feel better to create music. A noble cause.

It seems God is making you into the man He wants you to be. Some feel it more than others. But it’s that pain you feel that keeps us going to Him and fuels the longings of your heart. And you create music. I write. And others worship Some teach and are evangelists, etc. and when you get a handle on it, it’s a way of life. So keep at it and reap the joy of accomplishment in the Lord.
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Conquer Sin - What Is Sin​


He seems to bring me somehow into bondage when I listen David, he seem to quote lot stuff from Old Testament, and also say that not giving 10th is sin. Among others, but he dont preach freedom, identity and sonship on Christ. Seem bit legalistic per say. Like ... where is the joy? I mean I dont like to judge, but I am new believer and I dont want to get into bondage of even thinking if breathing is also sin and there is more remission of sins after knowledging the truth. That he also mention, anyway, I believe that we grow with lord by getting born again and Holy Spirit teaching us, and we yield to God and boil releationship, or seems he teaches that God only loves us coz we keep he's commandments?

Sorry about my broken English!

park worship revival update

As of Monday, over 1,000 came to Jesus. Sunday Night, my wife and me, We went to a free outdoor concert at a local high school. Some of the Football Players and Cheerleaders recognized me. so, they ask me to come onto the field with them. I was able to explain the Gospel of our Lord and Savior to them. Most who were not born again 57 gave their lives to Jesus as their Lord and Savior. There are some who do not know our Lord yet. Please Pray for them. Only God knows if there is going to be a revival in the local school districts.
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NYTimes and AP look at the ideas that led J.D. Vance to become Catholic...

One major newsroom focused on religious conversion, while another offered lots and lots of politics​



One of the world’s most important newsrooms just offered a finely detailed profile of Catholic convert J.D. Vance and, imagine this, the feature focused on the emotions and ideas that led him to swim the Tiber. This included his intellectual and spiritual attraction to the work of St. Augustine, one of the most important minds in all of Western culture.

Yes, there were political implications linked to this decision since the senator is, after all, the GOP candidate for vice president.

Another powerful newsroom produced a feature about Vance’s faith and the emphasis was on politics, politics and more politics, including lots of material about Vance and a choir of dangerous, authoritarian Catholic thinkers. Has Vance identified with this group? No, but he has said interesting things about some ideas voiced by a few of those folks. Oh, and members of this mysterious group have lots of complex disagreements with each other about doctrine and politics.

Which report was from the Associated Press and which was from the New York Times?

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He's Catholic does not necessarily make him popular in politics.
The liberals rail against the Christian religion.
And the article hits on what they always say... "authoritarian Catholic"
Which is why they created a stupid opposition of the choices of Trump.
And Kamala is railing against the Supreme Court being so religious/Catholic/pro life/conservative.

She is a dictator waiting to happen.
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Against the authorities, against the COSMIC POWERS of this darkness

Berean Literal Bible, Ep 6:

12 because to us the wrestling is not against blood and flesh, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
Strong's Greek: 2888. κοσμοκράτωρ (kosmokratór) — 1 Occurrence

HELPS Word-studies

2888 kosmokrátōr (from 2889 /kósmos, "world" and 2902 /kratéō, "to rule") – properly, world-ruler, referring to Satan (demons) influencing the lives of worldly people (used only in Eph 6:12).
Outside the Bible, G2888 appeared more frequently. BDAG κοσμοκράτωρ:

world-ruler (used of world-ruling gods [Orphica: Hymns 8, 11 Helios; 11, 11 Pan; Vett. Val. 170, 36 κ. Ζεύς; 171, 6; 314, 16 κ. Ἥλιος; PGM 4, 1599; 2198; 5, 400 and 17b, 1 Ἑρμῆς; 13, 619 Σάραπις] and of the emperor Caracalla [Egypt. ins APF 2, 1903, 449 no. 83]. Then gener. of spirit beings, who have parts of the cosmos under their control: Vett. Val. 278, 2; 360, 7; Iambl., Myst. 2, 9; 3, 10; TestSol; Iren. 1, 5, 4 [Harv. I 48, 2]; τὸν διάβολον …, ὃν καὶ κοσμοκράτωρα καλοῦσι 1, 5, 4 [Harv. I 47, 4].—FCumont, Compt. rend. Acad. des ins 1919, 313f; EPeterson, Εἷς θεός 1926, 238, 3. Also loanw. in rabb., e.g. of the angel of death) of evil spirits (w. ἀρχαί and ἐξουσίαι) οἱ κ. τοῦ σκότους τούτου the world-rulers of this darkness i.e. the rulers of this sinful world Eph 6:12 (s. TestSol [18, 2] in Dibelius, Geisterwelt 230: spirits come to Sol. and call themselves οἱ κοσμοκράτορες τ. σκότους τούτου. On the subject s. Hdb. on J 12:31 and FDölger, D. Sonne d. Gerechtigkeit 1918, 49ff; GMacgregor, Principalities and Powers: ACPurdy Festschr. ’60, 88–104).—DELG s.v. κόσμος. M-M. TW.
G2888 referred to spirit beings who ruled different parts of the cosmos.

Paul points out the need for believers to be spiritually prepared and vigilant. It is spiritual warfare.

The Straits Times: Indonesian police detain seven in a failed plot to attack Pope Francis...

According to Indonesia's national police anti-terrorism squad Detachment-88, the initials of the terrorist suspects are HFP, LB, DF, FA, HS, ER and RS. The investigation is still ongoing. It isn't clear if the detainees knew one another or were part of the same terror cell.

Detachment-88 spokesman Aswin Siregar informed the media that one of those arrested belonged to the same militant group that attacked Wiranto, Indonesia's former Chief Security Minister, in 2019.

Wiranto suffered two stab wounds to the stomach during a visit to western Java in October 2019. The two assailants behind the attack were reportedly members of an IS-affiliated terror group, Jamaah Ansharut Daulah. The assailants behind the attack were a husband and wife who are believed to have been inspired by IS, The New York Times reports.

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New international outrage after Israel kills 3 senior Hamas commanders hidden in Gaza humanitarian zone

After an Israeli airstrike on a Hamas command center hidden in the humanitarian zone in Gaza killed three senior terror commanders, outrage erupted in international and Palestinian media amid claims that around 40 people died in the strikes.

According to the Israel Defense Forces, the casualty numbers are inaccurate, and the targets of the strike were “significant terrorists” who were “operating in a command-and-control complex hidden in the humanitarian area in Khan Yunis.”

“Before the attack, many steps were taken to reduce the chance of harming civilians, including the use of precision weaponry, aerial surveillance and additional intelligence information,” the IDF emphasized.

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Against the world forces of this darkness

Ephesians 6:12

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood,
but against the rulers,
against the powers,
against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places

Paul's emphasis here was not on the visible but on the invisible. The darkness paralleled the wickedness in the heavenly places.

Was Ephesians 6:12 characterizing this world as “darkness”?

Yes, in terms of being controlled by invisible evil forces.

Was our world "darkness"?

No, darkness did not refer to the visible world but to the invisible wickedness in the heavenly places.

Was Paul talking about the Zodiac?

No, not specifically.

The entire sentence had only one verb: the verb to be. Paul used 5 against-phrases to characterize the one human struggle. All five focused on the invisible aspects of this struggle.

Thoughts on a Homily

Last weekend was the 23rd Sunday in ordinary time. The Gospel reading was Mark7:31-37 in which Christ healed the "deaf man, who had an impediment in his speech."

As part of his homily the priest homed in on the fact that Christ "took him aside in private, away from the crowd..."

I'd never taken any notice before of the fact Christ got him away from the hustle and bustle of the crowd and simply focussed on the miraculous healing.

The priest commented that sometimes we need to be alone and away from the crowd to hear God clearly.

I don't have an issue with that, but I have a more pragmatic interpretation. I'm hard of hearing (moderate to severe hearing loss) and I find it difficult to hear in noisy backgrounds, crowds being one of them.

An audiologist told me recently that to hear well in noisy backgrounds the brain needs two good ears.

I therefore think that one reason that Christ took him away from the crowd was that so this man who had never heard before would be able to hear Christ clearly and not have to compete with others crowding them in. The same comment would apply to his speaking for the first time.

This got me thinking a bit more about the healing. Apart from repairing whatever caused his problems in the first place, Christ would also have had to create neural pathways in the man's brain to accommodate his newfound faculties of speech and hearing. Older people who have cochlear implants take longer to learn to use them as they don't have preexisting neural pathways and less plasticity in their brain than younger people.

Then he would have had to fine tune the man's speaking apparatus which until now had probably only been able to make the guttural speech of the deaf. The vocal chords and larynx would have needed to become more flexible and melodius.

Christ would have "infused" sufficient languages skills, both speaking and interpreting, in four languages - Aramaic, Hebrew, Greek and Latin. Aquinas claimed that angels have "infused" knowledge - it is just given to them by God. They don't sit in cherub school reciting the times tables, although no doubt they learn from other angels and possibly even humans - did Albert Einstein's guardian angel lead Albert Einstein towards completing his mind games, or did the guardian angel learn something about the physics of this universe fom observing Albert Einstein?

Christ also made it clear He was healing both ears, possibly so the man could hear when the crowd caught up with him again.

All these things were done at a microscopic level and in the blink of an eye.

We take these miracles for granted sometimes and don't consider those things that have to be done to carry them out.

If Tom Cotton keeps melting the faces off CNN hosts, corporate news is in trouble. Check out his most recent takedown.


Just a couple weeks ago, Senator Tom Cotton stood his ground and masterfully exposed ABC's Jonathan Karl for the "This Week" host's shameless propaganda disguised as a news interview.

On Sunday, Cotton did it again in this on CNN's "State of the Union" show with host Dana Bash, turning the standard post-school shooting narrative around on a bewildered and unsuspecting Bash.
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I think my sister's friend needs an exorcism, what do you think?

My sister lived with a group of girls in college, they were all from her evangelical campus group InterVarsity. All Christian girls. They graduated college over 10 years ago, and most of them have gone on and gotten married, started families, etc. One of her friends however has lately been having some mental issues that are disturbing my sister and the other girls, and the irony is if you knew this group a decade ago this girl would probably be the one you'd consider least likely to have these issues.

My sister just gave me an update today and said she and her roommates called in a wellness check on this girl (we'll call her Amber). Amber's behavior has become really erratic, apparently a while back she moved to a really isolated county a couple hours away, which is a strange move for a single girl in her early 30s to do. From the sound of things she's visiting in town right now and my sister says she's extremely thin and has stopped eating and even drinking water. Apparently Amber won't talk about it with anybody but another roommate shared that Amber told her she thinks it's a sin to eat and hears voices if she does.

When I heard that part I told my sister that Amber needs an exorcism. The hearing voices part makes me think she's 100% experiencing demonic possession, or at least demonic oppression. I realize there's mental health issues at play here as well, Amber's sister has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder so there is illness already in the family. When my sister and her friends called in the wellness check the authorities said Amber didn't fully qualify for a 5150 but if she went another 12 hours without eating, then she would. Unfortunately Amber has since skipped town and nobody knows where she is right now.

What do you think?
I think she needs see a psychiatrist.
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The Traditional Thomist: The Lesser of Two Evils

Those guys didn't have the intellectual crutches we have today nor the diversions into nothingness, all which train our brains not to think well. I'm not saying everybody was smarter back then, but lots of us now would be challenged to get ourselves out of a cardboard box.
Yeah, a lot of us are followers now, instead of groundbreakers. The internet has made us that way, it seems.
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And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. (U-P Thread)

There are two types of humans.
One type is organic and has a 1000 year life span
the other type is inorganic and can last forever.

Let us make man in our image.
Genesis 1:26-28
Means the inorganic version of humans came first.
Which means God is an inorganic humanoid.



Inorganic, not consisting of matter.
Spirit, without any form, pure consciousness, yes the Supreme Intelligence, pure Intelligence, without form.
Jesus is the body/form of God the Father.
God set apart a part of His consciousness for the purpose of indwelling the physical man Christ.

Jesus ascended bodily beyond the sky. Acts 1:9-11
Organic bodies do not last more than 2 years in space; hence the inorganic body

No man has ascended beyond the sky except He that first came down from beyond the sky,
even the Son of Man which is in heaven.
John 3:15

The devil is a liar, physical aliens from other planets are part of the devil's great planned out lie.
Supreme intelligence is directly proportional to supreme technology.

So, dear one, Jesus is the physical body for the spirit God. Not a version of, but the body for God, just as we are,
we are spirits, consciousness, inside of flesh.
Unlike the angels, God allowed Himself to be born into flesh, such that He would be fully limited by the flesh.
Being limited, as the man Jesus, He had to believe that He was God.
As such the devil tempted Him repeatedly saying "If you are the Son of God".
But understanding and believing the Messiah said "thou shalt not temp the Lord thy God"
and with that statement He answered the temptation as both a man and as God.
He was and is fully man and fully God.

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About Solicitations for Violence and Criminal Activities, on Social Media


It's quite easy for Christians to recognize that white supremicists,
trying to incite their followers on social media to commit acts of
violence and destruction against the American government, in
order to incite a race war in America, is evil.

Note that it is proper for the Justice Department to indict and prosecute
these white supremicist speakers, as they are not covered by some mythical
"immunity from prosecution" by the right to freedom of speech.
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What is NOT quite so obvious to many American Christians, is that there is an
overlap between the rhetoric of white supremicist groups, and the rhetoric of
other influencers on the Internet, whom Christians would NOT associate with
white supremicists.

For example, we see arguments used by the white supremicists, sometimes
echoed by Tucker Carlson in his conspiracy theory hallucinations. Tucker
recently came out with the story that Hitler and the Nazis, did not really "plan"
the Holocaust of the Jews, despite reams of historical evidence that both
Hitler and the Nazi regime carefully planned the Holocaust. The white supremicists
say the same thing.

For example, we see the rhetoric among white supremicists, that non-white
people (whatever that means), are a huge source of disease and crime and
stolen jobs, for (white) American Christians. You might think that no American
Christians would be dumb enough NOT to realize that these same arguments, as
used by some politicians (who do not come right out and say that they are
white supremicists), are actually THE ARGUMENTS OF WHITE SUPREMICISTS.

It is right for the Department of Justice to pursue the prosecution of these
abusive groups, with the RICO racketeering laws, and to hold these groups
accountable for the lies that they are telling, and the criminal activity that
they are trying to incite.

It is fine for Christians to advocate for the upholding of law and order.

But when politicians or Christians bypass the fair rule of law in America, and advocate for
"taking the law into your own hands", then they are advocating for lawlessness. They
are advocating for bypassing the fair rule of law in America. And, for Christians,
lawlessness is sin.

Christians should be aware of the great difference between being for "law and order",
and advocating for bypassing the law, and carrying out acts of lawless vigilantism.

Sealing the Virgin Jew Men Rev 7:3,4

And you are a Message Board warrior, I see your type every day, you are all over the place and follow every whim and do not understand how to flush the word out.
Well you definitely flushed the word out.
Flushed right out of you.

I prefer to take in the word.
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School forced girl to sleep with male, allowed ‘nonbinary’ female to supervise boys' showers: lawsuit

Jefferson County Public Schools in Colorado allowed a "nonbinary" female to supervise boys' showers and forced a female student to share a bed with a male, violating parental rights over children's privacy and accommodation decisions on school trips, according to a federal lawsuit filed on behalf of parents.

The lawsuit accuses JCPS of not providing truthful information to parents concerning who will be supervising and sharing accommodations with their children on school-sponsored trips, the advocacy group Alliance Defending Freedom, which filed the complaint on behalf of three families, said in a statement.

The policy at the center of the controversy directs that students be "assigned to share overnight accommodations with other students that share the student's gender identity" rather than according to their biological sex.

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And the ideologues said "no one is forcing anyone to go along with this ideology". These examples are just the unreality of the ideology spilling out into real life. The more its infiltrated into mainstream society the more we will see these examples.

The logical extention of the underlying idea that subjective identity is a protected species is that subjective identity is reality. Is a new form of objective reality, if you could call it that. But a new measure of what is real in the world. As opposed to say biological sex which was until 5 minutes ago the objective reality.

So of course like anything, like physics and gravity if you subjectively believe you can fly you will come crashing down to earth. The same with Trans and Gender ideology. There are many down to earth moments like the ones mentioned.

I think the more these examples happen the more people begin to realise the unreality of the ideology. Most people only have a superficial view of whats going on and as this is often about nobel causes they tend to go along. So the more we can expose what is really going on by exposing the unreality of the underlying ideology through facts and with objective and lived reality the better.
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Bitterness

Bitterness will eat you up,
Make you now its slave.
Bitterness will fill your cup,
Drink from it always.

Bitterness affects your life,
Happiness not found.
Bitterness will grind you up,
Churning round and round.

Must forgive if you be free
From what holds you down.
Must depart from bitter roots,
Or in them you’ll drown.

Sadness steals the joyful heart,
Turns a smile to frown,
When forgiveness not engaged,
Bitter root is grown.

Please forgive, twill set you free
From your slavery.
Let it go, alive now be,
Heart now filled with glee.

An Original Work / September 29, 2022

Interesting Take on the 69 Weeks of Years

It's easier if I just tell you my position. The decree of Cyrus to rebuild Jerusalem and the Temple was carried out in stages. It was, I think, the decree of Artaxerxes in 457 BC that re-started the process that had been going on, the Temple largely having been built but still needing final touches. From 457 BC to 30 AD is 487 years, which is the 69 Weeks (483 years) plus 1/2 Week (3.5 years).

This is the point at which the Messiah was to be cut off, when in the midst of the 70th Week offerings were brought to an end by the act of the Roman ruler. He had Jesus put to death, ending all possibility of making Temple offerings to God, since the Lord Himself had been rejected by the Jewish People, including the priests and religious rulers.

It is said that the "people of the ruler to come" would destroy the city and the sanctuary. And so, after Christ was crucified, Jerusalem and the Temple were destroyed by the Roman leader's Army, the Abomination of Desolation. They were a pagan Army violating the sanctity of the holy city where the Temple was located. And they would desolate the city and the sanctuary.

This would lead not just to Jerusalem's destruction, but also to the continuing tribulation of the Jewish People who would remain under punishment until the return of Christ. This is exactly as laid out in Luke 21, where an Army is viewed as surrounding Jerusalem, and casting the people of Israel into captivity, being exiled until the endtimes.
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Are You Enduring the Cross?

“Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us also lay aside every weight, and sin which clings so closely, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God.” (Hebrews 12:1-2)

The “cloud of witnesses,” I believe, are those mentioned in Hebrews 11 who were people of faith, and who proved their faith to be genuine by their obedience to God – Father, Son Jesus Christ, and Holy Spirit – our triune God (3 in 1). They set the example for us for what our faith should look like. For if our faith in Jesus Christ is genuine, it will be shown by our denial of self, our dying with Christ daily to sin, and our walks of obedience to our Lord in holy living – all in the power and wisdom of God.

Therefore, we who believe in Jesus Christ with God-persuaded and God-gifted faith in him are to lay aside (cast off, get rid of) every weight (hindrance) to our walks of faith and obedience to our Lord. And these can be things in our lives which are stumbling blocks to us. They can be TV sets, the internet, computers, smart phones, magazines, movies, sports, certain possessions, food, music, and any kind of cravings and desires of the flesh. And they can be hatred, bitterness, resentment, and unforgiveness, too.

These are things that have the potential to lead anyone into sin because they have done so before. For those who are living in addiction to sin, these things regularly have the capacity to lead them to the same sins repeatedly. Some of these things may not be sinful in themselves, but they either contain sinful content within them or they are just objects which lead certain people to continue in particular sinful habits. So, these need to be gotten rid of so that they don’t lead the sinner into sin repeatedly.

Then, when the objects of temptation are removed, if they can be removed, those who are still giving way to particular sinful habits can more easily cast off those sins which have still been clinging ever so closely. But removing the objects of temptation alone is not enough in itself to guarantee victory over sin. All the bitterness, hatred, envy, lusts, anger, resentment, pride, selfishness, rebellion, and unforgiveness have to be let go of and cleansed out of the heart or the addict will keep repeating the same sins.

And then the one who has been practicing sin must repent of his/her sins, and then they must surrender their lives to Jesus Christ in submission to his will and purpose for their lives. And they must submit to Christ as Lord (Owner-Master) of their lives. And by faith in him, they must now choose to forsake their sins and to follow Jesus Christ in obedience to his commands in holy living, to the glory and praise of God. And daily they must deny self, die to sin (by the Spirit), and walk in obedience to the Lord (see Luke 9:23-26).

And then, as they keep their eyes focused on Jesus Christ, and their dependence is now in him, and not in their own flesh, they can run with endurance the race (the walk of faith in Jesus Christ) that is set before us, which God purposed that we should run/walk as those who are of genuine faith in Jesus Christ. And this involves us daily saying “NO!” to sin and “Yes!” to God, by the Spirit, and by God’s grace us living self-controlled, upright, and godly lives while we wait for our Lord’s return (see Titus 2:11-14).

[Rom 1:18-32; Rom 2:6-8; Rom 6:1-23; Rom 8:1-14,24; Rom 12:1-2; Rom 13:11; 1 Co 1:18; 1 Co 6:9-10,19-20; 1 Co 10:1-22; 1 Co 15:1-2; 2 Co 5:10,15,21; 2 Tim 1:8-9; Gal 5:16-21; Gal 6:7-8; Eph 2:8-10; Eph 4:17-32; Eph 5:3-6; Php 2:5-11: Col 1:21-23; Col 3:5-17; Tit 2:11-14; Heb 3:1-19; Heb 4:1-13; Heb 9:28; Heb 10:23-31; Heb 12:1-2]

Oh, to Be Like Thee, Blessed Redeemer

Lyrics by Thomas O. Chisholm, 1897
Music by W. J. Kirkpatrick, 1897


Oh, to be like Thee! blessèd Redeemer,
This is my constant longing and prayer;
Gladly I’ll forfeit all of earth’s treasures,
Jesus, Thy perfect likeness to wear.

Oh, to be like Thee! full of compassion,
Loving, forgiving, tender and kind,
Helping the helpless, cheering the fainting,
Seeking the wandering sinner to find.

O to be like Thee! lowly in spirit,
Holy and harmless, patient and brave;
Meekly enduring cruel reproaches,
Willing to suffer others to save.

O to be like Thee! while I am pleading,
Pour out Thy Spirit, fill with Thy love;
Make me a temple meet for Thy dwelling,
Fit me for life and Heaven above.

Oh, to be like Thee! Oh, to be like Thee,
Blessèd Redeemer, pure as Thou art;
Come in Thy sweetness, come in Thy fullness;
Stamp Thine own image deep on my heart.

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