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Samuel Rodriguez outlines 5 ways Harris-Walz ticket could 'push Latinos to Trump'

You don't think that kind of tax against one man would be an illegal tax?
Haha, it is partially a joke, but yes, that would be an illegal tax if we targeted one man or woman. A better way of putting it, is that we should tax the billionaires such as Musk (the Tesla EV guy) and others at a rate that is fair, but just high enough to allow the government to get enough money to fund security and other functions of our society.
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Firm Foundation by Honor & Glory

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This is a brand new song by Honor & Glory, which is a worship band made up of by Kevin Young and a couple of other members of Disciple.
Wow, this is a good song. Thank you for sharing this one, as I have never heard this. It is not too heavy, and is slow just like the classic Christian songs of the 2000s.

The song heavily relates to these verses, cos the Lord is our rock and foundation:

Psalm 18:2 (ESV): "The Lord is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer, my God, my rock, in whom I take refuge, my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold."

1 Samuel 2:2 (ESV): "There is none holy like the Lord: for there is none besides you; there is no rock like our God."

Isaiah 28:16b (ESV): "Behold, I am the one who has laid as a foundation in Zion, a stone, a tested stone, a precious cornerstone, of a sure foundation: ‘Whoever believes will not be in haste.’"
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Post-debate explainer: The truth about late-term abortions in the United States

I know people hate it when I try to apply critical thinking to anything related to abortion but as a person who lives in an abortion permissive state I’d like to say something about late term abortions.

what few there seem to almost all be related to severe defect or injury.

you can either accept that severe injury and defect occur and the these people need effective and appropriate medical treatment or not.
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could an 'eternal punishment' simply mean that once instituted it will not change?

Of course when one crams several unrelated vss together, they can make them say almost anything they want
There's a genuine shortcut to every Word. We "live" by every Word of God, Matt. 4:4, Luke 4:4, Deut. 8:3, so there's that

And we can take any and every command in the Bible and understand them all as "love your neighbor as yourself" Romans 13:8-10

Not saying it's easy but the basis is about as simple as need be
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Virginia Knights receive religious freedom award after spat with federal government

Deacon Bob Young
Deacon Bob Young, representing Knights of Columbus Council 694, accepts the First Liberty Institute's Philip B. Onderdonk Jr. Religious Liberty Award award at the American Legion’s National Convention in New Orleans on Aug. 28, 2024. | Credit: Jeric Wilhelmsen/The American Legion

A council of Knights of Columbus in Virginia has received a religious freedom award after it won a dispute earlier this year with the government over celebrating Mass at a federal cemetery.

The First Liberty Institute awarded the Knights of Columbus Council 694 its Philip B. Onderdonk Jr. Religious Liberty Award in recognition of the Petersburg council’s successful challenge to a federal rule prohibiting Mass at Poplar Grove National Cemetery. The religious freedom group assisted the knights in their challenge.

The Knights’ council has held an annual Memorial Day Mass at the Petersburg-area cemetery for decades, yet the National Park Service (NPS) had determined in 2023 that the observance was prohibited due to it being a religious service.

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Work Anxiety

Thank you, everyone, for your prayers and encouragement. Today my boss told me to ask a couple of people who are experts in how things should be done in this project and one of them sent me back an email saying that I had done things the right way all along. This is such a burden lifted from my shoulders. Praise God for His blessing and thank you to all of you for your support.
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James Earl Jones, legendary actor and Catholic convert, dies at 93

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Legendary actor James Earl Jones dies at 93. His career spanned seven decades allowing James Earl Jones to become a legend in film, television, stage and more. James was known for his iconic voice but, it wasn't Darth Vader that was his best role. In this video we discuss the greatest movie James Earl Jones played in and the last lesson this Catholic actor had to teach us.
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Pope Francis begins historic apostolic journey to Southeast Asia and Oceania

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Pope Francis: US Presidential Election a Choice Between ‘The Lesser Evil’

The Pope’s comments come 3 days after the first presidential debate between Trump and Harris in which both abortion and migration were significant topics of debate
Pope Francis speaks to journalists aboard the papal plane during an in-flight press conference on Friday, Sept. 13, 2024, on his return from his nearly two-week tour of Southeast Asia.
Pope Francis speaks to journalists aboard the papal plane during an in-flight press conference on Friday, Sept. 13, 2024, on his return from his nearly two-week tour of Southeast Asia. (photo: Daniel Ibañez/CNA / EWTN)

Pope Francis said that American voters face the choice between “the lesser evil” in the U.S. presidential election during an in-flight press conference Friday on his return from his nearly two-week tour of Southeast Asia.

Speaking aboard the papal plane, a chartered Singapore Airlines flight, on Sept. 13, the pope encouraged Catholics to vote with their conscience.

“In political morality, in general they say that if you don’t vote, it’s not good, it’s bad. You have to vote, and you have to choose the lesser evil,” he said.

“What is the lesser evil? That woman, or that man?” he continued, referring to Vice President Kamala Harris and her Republican opponent, former president Donald Trump. “I don’t know. Each one, in his or her conscience, must think and do this.”

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Worried About the Economy? The Trump-Harris Debate Had Little to Offer You

ANALYSIS: Poll after poll shows the economy is the No. 1 issue for voters. Vice President Kamala Harris and former president Donald Trump seemed to have forgotten that Sept. 10 in their first — and possibly only — televised debate.
People watch the Sept. 10 presidential debate between former U.S. president and Republican nominee Donald Trump and U.S. Vice President and Democratic candidate Kamala Harris in Nashville, Tennessee.
People watch the Sept. 10 presidential debate between former U.S. president and Republican nominee Donald Trump and U.S. Vice President and Democratic candidate Kamala Harris in Nashville, Tennessee. (photo: SETH HERALD / AFP via Getty Images)

In the storm of an unprecedented presidential campaign — which has featured, among other things, an assassination attempt of a former president and a last-minute swap-out at the top of the Democratic ticket — the iron law of American electoral politics held steady: Voters want to hear about the economy — and little else.

A vast sea of election-year polling has confirmed and reconfirmed Democratic strategist James Carville’s famous dictum that “It’s the economy, stupid.” Days before the first (and possibly only) presidential debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump on Tuesday in Philadelphia, Pew Research Center released a poll that found overwhelming concern over the economy among the general electorate — a full 81% of voters rate the economy as a “very important issue,” far more than any other.

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Ecclesiology; do you have bishops?

Many Lutheran denominations have bishops.

My first post was kind of written out of amused interest in how a KJV only Baptist explains the lack of bishops in their ecclesiology since the KJV is one of the translations that consistently uses bishop as well as elder and deacon giving that translation the vocabulary of threefold office within the church.

Yes, I know many Lutheran churches have bishops. As mentioned before, I have the joy and privilege of being one. I’d be glad to explain in more detail if you like, but in short, we retain the office in our freedom in Christ, but we don’t believe it’s a higher office by divine right, because the Scriptures use the terms commonly translated as Elder (presbyteros) and Overseer (episkopos) interchangeably, meaning, there’s only one pastoral office in the Bible. Yet we do see the apostles and the NT church arranging themselves as they see fit, for the sake of good order. So we do the same.

So do Baptists have bishops in a biblical sense? Yes, because they do have men occupying the pastoral office. And do they have bishops in a threefold office sense? Yes, I think so, if we consider what they may call a Senior Pastor. I know they can have deacons. But if your primary goal is to poke at the KJV only idea — fair enough! :)
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‘Madman’ shoots up home of Pastor Greg Locke with one of his children inside

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Harris relents on muting debate microphones

Declared, "you haven't answered the question, so before we move on, the record will show you didn't answer the question, are you sure you don't want to answer?"

Even if it gives the perception of the moderator "overpowering" the candidate, so be it. The moderators are often times members of the media/press (who act as a quasi-check on the power of government). It's their job to ask tough questions and demand answers (and expose people when they don't give answers)
Now that I have watched some/enough of the debate, I think my points were borne out. The moderators asserted their authority in a way that was partisan and unhelpful. The CNN moderators were much better.

This was particularly clear in the woman moderator's first "fact check" where she just declared on her own authority that Trump is wrong about the problematic "partial birth abortion" sort of phenomena that has been occurring for some time. Where did the woman receive such authority as the mouthpiece of truth? I don't even know her name! ^_^ Muir, on the other hand, gave an authority for the second fact check, which was much more appropriate. But in any case, having the moderators climb into the ring and start wrestling is never a good idea, and the possibility that they can do it without bias is probably non-existent.
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'Legacy of incompetence': Comer unveils wide-ranging hearing on Biden-Harris 'failed record'

If Jesus was a Democrat, James Comer would launch a committee investigation of him that would find he was a 'radical Socialist, cultural Marxist, anti-capitalist, anti-business, pro-woke elitist with delusions of his own importance' and then proceed to make insinuations about him hanging out with prostitutes and having 12 guys follow him everywhere.
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Aurora police identify 10 known Tren de Aragua members following reports of gang activity

Venezuelan and Haitian migrants wait to be registered at Canaan Membrillo village, the first border control of the Darien Province in Panama, on October 13, 2022. - The clandestine journey through the Darien Gap usually lasts five or six days at the mercy of all kinds of bad weather: snakes, swamps and drug traffickers who use these routes to take cocaine to Central America.
Venezuelan and Haitian migrants wait to be registered at Canaan Membrillo village, the first border control of the Darien Province in Panama, on October 13, 2022. - The clandestine journey through the Darien Gap usually lasts five or six days at the mercy of all kinds of bad weather: snakes, swamps and drug traffickers who use these routes to take cocaine to Central America. | LUIS ACOSTA/AFP via Getty Images

Police in Aurora, Colorado, identified 10 members of a Venezuelan gang as part of an ongoing investigation into reports of gang members living in the city and committing acts of violence, with crimes ranging from aggravated assault to shootings at apartments.

The Aurora Police Department has been investigating reports of the Venezuela prison gang Tren de Aragua operating in the city.

On Wednesday, the department releasedthe names of 10 members the police said have been "committing acts of violence against members of the migrant community" in the town.

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Sisters, 13 and 19, forced to marry Muslim captors, convert to Islam

Father threatened by abductor's axe-wielding family

Sumera Bibi and her husband with portraits of their forcibly converted and married daughters who were kidnapped in Kasur District, Pakistan, on July 23, 2024.
Sumera Bibi and her husband with portraits of their forcibly converted and married daughters who were kidnapped in Kasur District, Pakistan, on July 23, 2024. | Christian Daily International-Morning Star News

LAHORE, Pakistan — A high court in Pakistan has ordered police to recover two Christian sisters, ages 13 and 18, who were forcibly converted to Islam and married to their abductors, the family’s attorney said.

After police refused to make efforts to recover Neha Javed and her older sister, Saneha Javed, following their July 23 kidnapping in Pattoki Tehsil, Kasur District, Lahore High Court Justice Muhammad Tariq Nadeem on Wednesday ordered the police chief of Kasur District, Punjab Province, to recover them and submit a report, attorney Sumera Shafique said.

The court ordered the two girls to be recovered from Muslims Muhammad Zain and Muhammad Ali, who are brothers, Shafique said.

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Debate v Reality

We all change but if we do we can articulate the reasons for the change, and should be asked to when changes are so extreme and would affect public policy.

If she doesn't articulate the reasons why she's changed all her main policy positions then it's just called lying for votes.
I agree with you 100% about how we must state the reasons why we change. Kamala did none of that. She did not articulate the reason why she changed her viewpoint.

For myself, the reasons why I have changed from liberal to centrist over the period of 2020 to 2024 is because the Democrats no longer represent a party that cares for the underdogs. They only care about Big Tech, LGTV+ agenda and pushing woke ideology onto kids more than helping the poor or homeless. What about people that are Christian? The Democrats do not care much about freedom of religion, as some states can take (read: kidnap) one's own children away for not recognizing the preferred pronoun junk.
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God’s Desires > Our Desires

Amen, my brother.
Amen to God for giving you Proverbs 3:5-6 as your life verse 44 years ago. :) Wow, the two DeGarmo and Key's songs you shared today both resonated with Proverbs 3:5-6 (Ultimate Ruler) and Sirach 2:4-7 (The Pledge). Both of these verses are in this devotional about how we must trust in God's plan.
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Ultimate Ruler by DeGarmo & Key

I love the classic cars and bike in this video, too. It is cool that you referenced Proverbs 3:5-6 because, over 44 years ago, I prayed asking God for a life verse that would apply for help in trusting Him no matter what happened. For encouragement from God to yield to Him and His will. The Lord answered my prayers with Proverbs 3:5-6
It is good we both like old-school things such as classic cars and bikes. Wow, God gave you Proverbs 3:5-6 as your life verse? That is a good verse. Goes to show how God speaks through people and experiences, as well as directly. The Proverbs are a very encouraging set of verses in general. One of my favorite verses is actually from the Psalms though. :)

Psalm 121:7-8 (NIV): "The Lord will keep you from all harm— he will watch over your life; the Lord will watch over your coming and going both now and forevermore."

Proverbs 3:5-6 is part of my God's Desires > Our Desires Devotional made in July 2024:
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Planned parenthood has never been about healthcare or women's health.

I wasn't aware of their other services until I went with a friend. She was 18 at the time and got a checkup. They had a sliding fee that was affordable.

I don't bash people about abortion. There's not a person on this earth who hasn't done something they're not ashamed of or hiding from others. When you start weighing sins you look foolish.

~bella
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