Lol. Atheists aren't going anywhere and hell doesn't exist. Why would a loving God send anyone to hell for something they have no control over? I refuse to believe in such a tyrant.
Lol. Atheists aren't going anywhere and hell doesn't exist. Why would a loving God send anyone to hell for something they have no control over? I refuse to believe in such a tyrant.
Just because there's a universe does not mean the Christian God created it. It could be any number of Gods, all with different rules.You can disagree, but that is not what you asked for. You asked for a response and I gave you a rational answer.
I think most people would agree that a newborn baby has no concept of anything, let alone God. I was one of them.That seems to be an assertion. Do you have any evidence to back this up?
Most atheists do not sin deliberately and know right from wrong, although people differ on that. I would like to think that God is fair and merciful. Simply not believing in him is not sinful.All of them.
You can't compare punishment in a court of law with a punishment from God. Courts of law often convict the wrong person because of misleading/insufficient evidence or malpractice. God is supposed to be omniscient.The same way we punish murderers in a court of law.
If God created nature, then he is the designer and knows how it works.What if God does not actively control what people believe but leaves it up to nature? If an atheist has heard the Gospel, then they are without excuse for not believing.
You might but I'm a hard determinist.I never mentioned "free will." I am a compatibilist though and I believe free will is compatible with determinism.
There is absolutely no proof whatsoever. NDEs are in no way proof or reliable.Hell is demonstrated by many NDEs. It most certainly does exist.
There is absolutely no proof whatsoever. NDEs are in no way proof or reliable.
I will assume you mean that you don't understand Ro 9:22-23.I don't understand your answer.
Is the only reason to be an example to believers of God's anger towards atheists? How does God show his anger as I've never seen it?I will assume you mean that you don't understand Ro 9:22-23.
"What if God, choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath--who have prepared themselves for destruction? What if he did this to make the riches of his glory (goodness) known to the objects of his mercy (Ro 5:20), whom he prepared in advance for glory---" (Ro 9:22-23)
Does the text state a use for those who have prepared themselves for destruction by their own wilfullness and folly?
The choice is ours but in no way is it free. Where's the freedom when choices made are a result of previous events we have no control over? Our upbringing, genetics, temperament, education, prior events and thoughts all determine the choice.
It doesn't matter what age you are. We are not responsible for how we turn out since it is determined by past events. This includes our thought processes. If we were to be truly responsible, we would have to have been involved in our creation. Is that not obvious to you?Its still free will when we get to an age when we can decide for ourselves.
We are not responsible for how we turn out since it is determined by past events.
I can't just accept truth without proof of it. Evidence may help in belief but it's not proof. With regards to God, scriptures, religion etc. there is simply no proof. Aren't Christians taught that faith is what is required since there's no proof?That is what revelation is for. When you hear something new, you can either accept the truth of it or reject it. I'm not making an argument for LFW, I'm saying once truth is given to you you can either change the paradigm you were operating under before or go back to what you always believed.
I can't just accept truth without proof of it. Evidence may help in belief but it's not proof. With regards to God, scriptures, religion etc. there is simply no proof. Aren't Christians taught that faith is what is required since there's no proof?
It doesn't matter what age you are. We are not responsible for how we turn out since it is determined by past events. This includes our thought processes. If we were to be truly responsible, we would have to have been involved in our creation. Is that not obvious to you?
God did not create atheists, atheists are a result of their own choices.I have asked these two questions many times to Christians and no one can answer me, so here goes:
If God is omniscient, why would he create atheists, knowing full well that they will never believe in him? and
Why would he then cast them into eternal hellfire?
The fact that God created humankind in His image and invested us with the right to exercise dominion means that we are stewards of His creation and accountable to Him for how well we care for what He has made.If God is the creator of all things, then he is responsible for the design and how it functions.
So it is just your subjective opinion, not a fact. Why do we then help criminals responsible for their crimes and we punish them?I'm glad you brought up choice but the concept of "free will" is illusory, in my opinion. Everything that happens is a result of previous events, which are mostly out of our control.
Does God not have a right to create anything He wants? Imagine just for a moment you found out there is God and He did indeed create everything out of nothing. Would you then tell Him what He can and what He cannot do?That makes no sense. Had he not created us, there would be no need whatsoever for love and mercy.
What is good? If there is no God, where you get the objective morality from? If you for example argue that caring for each other is a good thing, why is it a good thing? Who says it's a good thing? If a killer comes along and says that he needs to murder you in order to survive, why is that a bad thing? Because if there is no God, there is no moral compass. If there is no external reference and authoritative unchanging referent you get that opinion from, it's just something you feel. The fact that we know murder is bad, and caring for each other is good, is an evidence of God.Most people are good, law-abiding citizens.
Most people are good, law-abiding citizens.
This passage from Romans 1 indicates all men have a built-in knowledge of GodThanks for responding but not sure I agree with this. When we are born we have no concept of God so it follows that we don't have a belief in him either.
Why do you ask so many questions at once? It will take me a while to respond. Pls be patient.The fact that God created humankind in His image and invested us with the right to exercise dominion means that we are stewards of His creation and accountable to Him for how well we care for what He has made.
When God created everything out of nothing, everything was good. There was nothing bad, and God gave us choice to either obey Him or not. Why is the disobedience of God evil? Because it's saying that we know better than God, and this is pride, because we think we are more than we are. But we had a choice, we could have freely obey God.
So it is just your subjective opinion, not a fact. Why do we then help criminals responsible for their crimes and we punish them?
Does God not have a right to create anything He wants? Imagine just for a moment you found out there is God and He did indeed create everything out of nothing. Would you then tell Him what He can and what He cannot do?
What is good? If there is no God, where you get the objective morality from? If you for example argue that caring for each other is a good thing, why is it a good thing? Who says it's a good thing? If a killer comes along and says that he needs to murder you in order to survive, why is that a bad thing? Because if there is no God, there is no moral compass. If there is no external reference and authoritative unchanging referent you get that opinion from, it's just something you feel. The fact that we know murder is bad, and caring for each other is good, is an evidence of God.
If we look at all the diverse cultures cultures, we see they all agree on basic morality. How do you explain that basic morality? If you say that it is who we are, then what if Putin comes along and says he wants to be selfish and take everything for myself and I have to kill you to do that, why is that objectively wrong? Where you get your objective standard from? If you say that there is objective good, then you are getting that from God. Just because we know morality, it does not explain where it comes from.
The creation itself. Why is there laws of physics? And where did they come from? Why does the universe, if there is no God, behave according to laws of physics? Who designed these laws? Why is there maths equations? Why is there a gravity equation? Why is there an energy equation? Where do these things come from? How can there be something out of nothing? How do you explain life? How can nothing produce life?
Even if evolution were true, what laws that are driving evolution, where do they come from?
If you say there is no God, then life is just a coincidence, and so is your brain, how can you then trust your brain, how can you trust your conclusions and judgement? If you say we can trust our minds, that's the effect, what caused that? We trust ourselves because we were created, if we were not, why do people trust each other when everything is just random and nothing has any meaning? If you can trust your thoughts, then it is because your brain was designed. It is the reason why we trust our computers for example. Would you trust a computer if it was not designed?
C.S Lewis once said this:
“Supposing there was no intelligence behind the universe, no creative mind. In that case, nobody designed my brain for the purpose of thinking. It is merely that when the atoms inside my skull happen, for physical or chemical reasons, to arrange themselves in a certain way, this gives me, as a by-product, the sensation I call thought. But, if so, how can I trust my own thinking to be true? It's like upsetting a milk jug and hoping that the way it splashes itself will give you a map of London. But if I can't trust my own thinking, of course I can't trust the arguments leading to Atheism, and therefore have no reason to be an Atheist, or anything else. Unless I believe in God, I cannot believe in thought: so I can never use thought to disbelieve in God.”
Can you explain why our bodies are so complex? How can an eye be made up of 30 major components and billions of atoms if there is no Creator and life is just a coincidence? Did you know there are 50 different proteins for blood clotting and if just one fails to activate when we injure ourselves, we will bleed out? And we can do this so many organs in our bodies.
Are you sure about that? Then why half the marriages end in divorce? Why do we constantly cheat on each other, we hurt each other? You will argue that it is legal, well I'd rather get punched even beaten up that get cheated on. If we are so good, then why does everyone lie? Why there is 50 million abortions a year? Why is there so many murders? Why so many wars? Why is there drug, alcohol and inappropriate content addiction? Why there are millions of kidnappings happening, why is there constant racism, why are children constantly disobeying there parents? I know you will argue why telling a lie deserves hell, because it is sin to lie, and wages for sin are death. Why? Because God is good and every sin must be punished, and even the smallest sin is deadly, even the smallest sin is like saying to God we know better than Him and thus making ourself to be like God. And if you say there is no God, well then nothing mattes so what does it matter when someone hurts you anyway, And why do you even have feelings, where did they come from?
Christianity does not prove the existence of God. Some people even state that Jesus was fictitious. Pls provide me with evidence. The Bible does not prove anything to me.You have sufficient evidence for Christianity. If you don't, ask me and I would be happy to provide some evidence for you.