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essentialsaltes · 2025-11-20T09:51:20-0600

iluvatar5150 said:
So he was trafficking? If he just wanted to kill himself, why eat the plastic?

I had a thought that maybe he was planning to have some cocaine in his new home, where they might not let him have any.

bling · 2025-11-20T09:50:31-0600

BelieveItOarKnot said:
Adam was God's son. A PART of God Himself.

Your attempt starts right out the gate trying to "divide" that fact from Adam and everyone else.

People really are God's children, when all is said and done. A generally accepted fact within larger orthodoxy.

So notions that God has children that fail and He is then forced to burn them alive forever is not only bizarre, but patent nonsense. Just another lie of the devils in the carriers. I don't think the people who get sucked into that kind of vortex have given it much thought myself. IF they did they'd have a better opinion of God and His Capabilities to actually be their SAVIOR.

I do believe in a place of torment, but eventually every person in hell is annihilated, but that takes lots of scripture and words to explain.

Yes! We are all God’s children, but some of God’s children continue to reject God’s help (Love/charity/grace/mercy/forgiveness) to the point they would never of their own free will humbly accept God’s charity as charity. So, what can be done with them? They would be very unhappy in heaven where there is no carnal type of love and only Godly type Love (Which they do not want or like).

These refusers of God’s help, can take on the lesser objective of helping those who still can choose to accept God’s Love, by the refusers being examples of what they do not want to be or become.

BelieveItOarKnot said:
I would suggest that is where the interesting parts reside. The classic theodicy realm.

You have to admit that the scriptures DO present a world of invisible actors overlaid upon people. It's pretty much beyond denial for a legitimate believer is it not?

An "antiChrist" spirit is, let's say, a unique but temporary thing kind of beyond our definite grasp other than the disclosures we have in scripture and what we can "see and perceive" in reality, even within our own minds.

Haven't you ever been blindsided by a "bad thought" seemingly out of nowhere? I'd dare say it's a "universal" experience to people. Take it from there.

You are not addressing the question: “Why is satan wondering around and/or in people?

bling said:

BelieveItOarKnot said:
iirc Jesus IS The Savior of the world. I actually believe He gets the job done. My bad?

Just because some people refuse God’s Love/charity/salvation does not mean Jesus is not their savior. The gift can be refused.

Clare73 · 2025-11-20T09:45:12-0600

GoldenBoy89 said:
Lol no.

That explains a lot. . .

PloverWing · 2025-11-20T09:42:12-0600

I'm in New Jersey. It's late autumn here. This week has seen clouds and drizzly rain. We haven't had our first hard freeze of the season yet, so some of the plants are still bravely flowering -- including my azaleas and my tomato plants, improbably. Gray weather tends to make me sad, but the stubbornly blooming plants cheer me up.

This is the tree that I see out my front window.

Clare73 · 2025-11-20T09:39:30-0600

childeye 2 said:
Doesn't mean they were not misled in their innocence knowing nothing about sin.

Adam clearly understood, "Thou shalt not." Period. Full stop.

That's all he needed to know in order not to sin.

The rest is window dressing.

DaisyDay · 2025-11-20T09:37:53-0600

Gene2memE said:
This is disgraceful (changed earlier this month), but what else should have been expected with an anti-vaxxer in charge of HHS?

Autism and Vaccines

Answers to common questions about vaccine safety and autism.

www.cdc.gov

Looks to me like someone is going to get a lot of people killed. And, they don't care.

Note the asterisk.

Vaccines do not cause Autism*

Pursuant to the Data Quality Act (DQA), which requires federal agencies to ensure the quality, objectivity, utility, and integrity of information they disseminate to the public, this webpage has been updated because the statement "Vaccines do not cause autism" is not an evidence-based claim. Scientific studies have not ruled out the possibility that infant vaccines contribute to the development of autism. However, this statement has historically been disseminated by the CDC and other federal health agencies within HHS to prevent vaccine hesitancy.

* The header "Vaccines do not cause autism" has not been removed due to an agreement with the chair of the U.S. Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee that it would remain on the CDC website.

A2SG · 2025-11-20T09:36:24-0600

Postvieww said:
To figure out what you missed just think about how you would post if it were Republicans rather than Democrats.

That a Republican got an email from Jeffrey Epstein? Without knowing anything else, not much.

-- A2SG, can't do much with so little actual information....

durangodawood · 2025-11-20T09:26:59-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
Framing in ones own words and being able to articulate things in a certain "convincing" style are/were the bread & butter of the likes of Ben Shapiro, Steven Crowder, and the late Charlie Kirk.

I would presume that you'd agree that just because they all can "beat" a random 22 year old college liberal in a debate, that doesn't mean they actually have the right answer, correct?

AI levels that playing field. (Leveling the playing field is a liberal virtue, is it not?)

You arent even on the playing field when you just do an AI dump. Thats more like sending in an autonomous drone you bought off the shelf.

As for public intellectuals (real or pretend), I find zero inherent value in leveling the playing field by any other method than study and practice. It should be human mind vs human mind. Study could well include AI help. But on "the playing field" I want a sense you are there, and not some surrogate whos methods you may not even grasp.

ThatRobGuy said:
If I had to debate Ben Shapiro on the topic of the Gaza conflict in a public setting, strictly based on the facts that we both had committed to memory and could rattle off quickly, he'd own me. (A - Because he has something of an identic memory, and B - because he has more practice at public speaking in front of large crowds -- less nervous, able to project confidence, etc...)

If he and I had a text-based debate where I could leverage AI as a tool for retrieving valid, cited information, I can beat him, because on the Gaza conflict topic, the actual facts are on my side.

That should really be the goal of any debate that's substantive (and not purely performative), right? Finding the right answer.

Im fine with you using AI as a study tool to direct you to various sources you can examine and assimilate.

But just a dump of AI generated text has no interest for me. Theres no sense Im arguing with you there.

iluvatar5150 · 2025-11-20T09:23:48-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Authorities ruled Hodgson’s death to be accidental and found three plastic bindles, which are normally used to hold drugs, in his stomach,

So he was trafficking? If he just wanted to kill himself, why eat the plastic?

biblelesson · 2025-11-20T09:22:15-0600

d taylor said:
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Again here is your writing

without the Spirit of Christ, we cannot receive eternal life.

Romans 8:9 KJV
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

John 3:5 KJV
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

JimR-OCDS · 2025-11-20T09:20:06-0600

How can a nation protect it's borders without law enforcement?

Even the Vatican prohibits illegal entry.

iluvatar5150 · 2025-11-20T09:17:33-0600

BPPLEE said:
If there was something really bad about Trump in the files do you really think Maxwell's appeals would have stopped them from releasing them?

I'd like to think so.

For the record, I've never expected there to be much incriminating evidence against Trump in there. When Patel and Bongino said there was nothing to the files, my reaction was "welcome to reality, guys." The only thing that's made me think there might really be something there is the bizarre amount of resistance he and his administration have put up against releasing the files. It would hardly be the first time that I'd given him the benefit of the doubt only to realize that he really is that bad and the worry-warts were right all along.

JimR-OCDS · 2025-11-20T09:15:05-0600

So, the witnesses and victims of the Hamas attack on October 7, don't count?

essentialsaltes · 2025-11-20T09:14:55-0600

I was not expecting this, but...

Border Patrol agent died of cocaine overdose a month after Long Beach arrest, autopsy says

Isaiah Hodgson, 29, was found dead in his bedroom in Hemet in late August with white “powder-like residue” near him, according to investigative documents released by the Riverside County Sheriff’s Office in response to a public records request from The Times.

Authorities ruled Hodgson’s death to be accidental and found three plastic bindles, which are normally used to hold drugs, in his stomach, according to the coroner’s report. Riverside County sheriff’s officials previously said there were no signs of foul play at the scene, and the report confirmed Hodgson had not sustained any injuries or defensive wounds. His official cause of death was described as “cocaine toxicity.”

Hodgson’s parents told police their son “had been depressed since being on administrative leave, but they stated he was not suicidal and did not have any suicidal ideations,” according to the report. Hodgson previously struggled with cocaine and alcohol abuse, his family said, according to the documents. But, they said, Hodgson had been attending Alcoholics Anonymous for about two months, according to the coroner’s report.

bling · 2025-11-20T09:13:50-0600

Mark Quayle said:
Then, by that statement, free will is not 'libertarian' (uncaused) choice.

The will need not be uncaused, nor the inclination of the will uncaused, nor the decisions uncaused, for the choices to indeed be genuine.

No! we are talking about the same person making some "autonomous free will" (uncaused by outside influences) choices and that same person making choices that are the result of outside influences.
Are you not defining a "genuine" choice as being a God caused choice which individual is responsible for making?
Humans are certainly set up to make mental choices which they personally can be held responsible for making, without physically being able to carry the actions of their choice out.

Mark Quayle said:
Now what would cause that man to want to lust after that woman?

Nothing happens in a void.

All mature adults have a God given needed survival instinct, which results in some degree of selfishness, that selfishness is the motivation behind the lust.
A Christian having eternal life has their survival instinct satisfied, and they have been showed unbelievable wonderful gifts including Godly type Love, so no need to lust.

essentialsaltes · 2025-11-20T09:09:00-0600

Truth7t7 said:
The liberals will be out in the cold, the "Ten Commandments" will win!

Not in court. Wherever else they may win is not the business of We The People.

FAITH-IN-HIM · 2025-11-20T09:08:04-0600

wing2000 said:
We won't see a significant change until we address election financing. Our representatives are beholden to corporations and the 1 percenters. IMO, we need to move to 100% public financed elections and level the playing field.

During the 1990s and early 2000s, the United States political environment was heavily influenced by corporations, substantial financial interests, and Washington, D.C. lobbyists who influenced lawmakers and politicians. However, this dynamic shifted following the 2007 primary election. President Obama encouraged greater grassroots participation among Americans in politics, which was followed by the rise of the Tea Party movement and the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations. Senator Sanders also reinvigorated grassroots activism, and President Trump further energized American political engagement with the MAGA movement in 2016.

Today, the influence of large corporations over politicians is significantly less than that of the 10-15% of primary voters within each political party. Politicians are now more concerned about facing a primary challenge and being voted out by their own party members than about corporations and lobbyists supporting their opponents in the general election.

In the 90s, most American expressed concern over the influence of large corporations and big money in US politics, wishing that ordinary citizens had more power to effect change. At the time, pork barrel projects often benefited major corporations, leaving everyday people overlooked. However, the current landscape has shifted, and today, voters in party primaries hold significant sway over American politics. The impact of these primary voters from both major political parties now arguably outweighs the previous influence of corporations, with their actions often resulting in greater division. Unlike businesses, which tended to support centrist policies and avoid undermining the foundation of government institutions, most primary voters appear intent on moving the country toward opposing extremes. Each side wants to reshape American institutions according to their own ideology, often at the expense of compromise.

In retrospect, it could be argued that American politics were more stable in the 90s when corporate interests, rather than intense ideological divisions among citizens, played a larger role.

Postvieww · 2025-11-20T09:07:08-0600

essentialsaltes said:
House failed its censure vote of Plaskett.

Too bad!

CLEEB · 2025-11-20T09:06:57-0600

Delvianna said:
If you preach that salvation is works based, both you and everyone else who agrees with that, is not apart of his flock, that is part of knowing their heart. So no, not within "all" denominations are his flock. There are denominations as a whole based on their teaching, that none will be saved due to it contradicting what scripture says about salvation.

From what I understand about works is that the works can’t be our works, the works must be GODS works in HIS people. Philippians 2:13 Ephesians 2:10 The works Paul spoke against were those of the law. The works James wrote about are GODS works in HIS people. James 2:17 These GODLY works are “agape” or GODS love in us by HIS Spirit, Romans 5:5 This GODLY love is what will fulfill the law, Romans 13:10 This is how Jesus fulfilled the law. The law as given by Moses could not have had this GODLY love if it requires GODLY love to fulfill it. The two greatest of all commandments Jesus gave are of the spirit of GOD who is love. GODLY love cannot sin. In his letter James mentions the “royal law” and it is love your neighbor as yourself. James 2:8 This information should end the confusion some have about law and grace.

Postvieww · 2025-11-20T09:06:33-0600

A2SG said:
I'm sorry, maybe I missed something. Is there a problem here?

-- A2SG, maybe the insinuations are just too vague for me....

To figure out what you missed just think about how you would post if it were Republicans rather than Democrats.

BibleBeliever1611 · 2025-11-20T09:06:09-0600

Robban said:
I have none, because I do not acknowledge referring to the Word of God as commandments, it would be like having a gun to your head,
obey or else.

What was freeing for me was realizing that the Word of God is instructions.

As in, when all else fails, follow the instructions.

I would say it's commandments also. It's not like we're just here living a Christian life casually and reading the Bible, no, we're supposed to have a mission. Christianity is all about a mission and the mission is to get souls saved.

d taylor · 2025-11-20T09:05:19-0600

biblelesson said:
No, I did not say that at all. Read my post along with the scriptures I provided. I’m trying to help you see what you have said is not based on scripture, you have made up of the phrase “we believe unto eternal life,” which is not scriptural.

I ask again, if it is scriptural, then where is it in the Bible?

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“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
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Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.
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Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
She said to Him, “Yes, Lord, I believe that You are the Christ, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”

durangodawood · 2025-11-20T09:04:58-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
I don't there's anything "unpopular" about what you've expressed.

But as the saying goes, the Devil's in the details.

...but step 1 has to be an honest, no-nonsense discussion about entitlement reforms, and being honest about which ones work, and which ones don't. The pushback from the right has always been "there are people getting it that shouldn't, and that's coming out of my tax dollars" (along with other tropes about "welfare queens"), and the pushback from the left has been the form of refusing to entertain any reforms at all. (as evidenced by pushback anytime there's been the idea floated of removing coca cola and junk food from the eligible purchase list)

...and in a close 2nd, an honest discussion about the institution of higher ed in the US, and the utility (or lack thereof) it provides with regards to attaining comfortable gainful employment.

There was a time (and it wasn't all that long ago, because it was my time just about 20 years ago) when a $35k college degree was the thing that opened the door to a job that started at $50k/year and went up from there. (which was an acceptable trade off)

Fast forward to now, a $100k college degree can maybe land you a gig making $70k out of college, and that's if you're lucky, many remain unemployed or underemployed for quite some time while the interest piles up.

We've tried the "rinse & repeat" approaches to "making college more attainable" and it's just created upward pricing pressure.

So the "honest assessment", in my estimation, is that we (as a whole), need to just flat out say "College degrees are vastly overpriced, and for 90% of jobs, aren't needed...and for the 10% of jobs where it is warranted, those jobs tend to pay well enough that a person can't get a decent ROI on their upfront costs"

"Higher Ed is special and makes you smart -- and that's why you need a degree to be a leasing agent at a Hertz rent-a-car" is a cultural zeitgeist that will obviously take some time to dismantle at scale, but how I envision that being facilitated would be for legislators at the state and federal levels to authorize tax incentives to companies who are willing to hire people with vocational training or certs in place of college degree requirements.

Those two definitely need to be in the mix, along with cost side items like housing and health care.

I also wonder how many people are in the right bargaining position to discover the real value of their work.

BibleBeliever1611 · 2025-11-20T09:02:55-0600

Singing a hymn out loud, could be any hymn

JimR-OCDS · 2025-11-20T09:02:49-0600

When I hear the Agnus Dei in Latin, I still have to try and translate it mentally
to English in my mind. Latin is the official language of the Church having to do
with documents. However, it's not the mandate in Mass celebrate as the ordinary
throughout the Church.

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