Latest activity

FredVB · 2025-11-12T11:29:04-0600

FredVB said:
There are the commandments besides those that were written by the finger of God, after God spoke those ones audibly. Many other things commanded, being subject to the ten, are of the shadows which involve the priesthood, the sacrifices, and the ways to be made clean, which we have Christ for in the new covenant, and the civil law, which is not up to the Christian believers. And what we can be obedient in with it being in Christ we can do.

Leaf473 said:
Sorry, I'm not following

Are you saying the commandments don't change except for the ones that are the civil law? Or any other commandment that we can't keep in Christ?

Everything of the law is subject to what was written in stone by the finger of God after God spoke those things, including the priesthood, the sacrifices, the ways to be me made clean in the rituals all of which were shadows in the old covenant that Christ is revealed to be in the new covenant, penalties in civil law are shadows of justice from God, which Christ bore for the redeemed, the ones with repentant faith that came, and those with that who will come, to Christ, and be restored to God. What to do right in that is still what is right to do, in the new covenant that was prophesied this would be from the heart, that is the essential change. Everything before God is to involve living justly, loving mercy, and walking humbly with God.

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2025-11-12T11:23:20-0600

Hans Blaster said:
(Steve, do you even read these links?)

I also want to say that that link is actually brilliant in it's own way since it's got stuff talking about Medieval scholars talking about stuff and it's amazing.

Turns out, the idea of the pyramids being granaries goes all the way back to the 6th century AD.

iluvatar5150 · 2025-11-12T11:19:00-0600

SavedByGrace3 said:
Say what they want. But their opinions have no more weight than those of an illegal immigrant. We are American citizens. My family has been here since 1620. I have people in the Revolution, the Civil War, WW1, WW2, Korea, VN, and the Gulf War. We have blood in this matter. My family has 250 years of blood, sweat, and tears. We cut down the trees, plowed the land, and picked up weapons when called up. We have been paying taxes since the nation was started. Foreigners can say anything they want. But their words really do not weigh beyond a logical position. Fine. They do not have any say in where that money goes. They have no say in who our leaders are. They have no say in our laws, our constitution, or the fate of our children. I assume they have problems in their own countries that need attending to. They have a say there. Not here.
I do not ignore their opinions... I just wonder why they care what happens in my country?

400 years of history and you're still oblivious as to why foreigners might care about how the richest, most powerful nation in history, the sole global hegemon over the last several decades, conducts itself? Did no one in your family tree stop to think about how we interact with other nations?

Always in His Presence · 2025-11-12T11:18:04-0600

Jeffrey Epstein: Trump ‘asked Ghislaine Maxwell to stop’ recruiting girls from Mar-a-Lago spa

The release is likely to increase pressure on the Justice Department to make public all its files in connection with the notorious case.

nypost.com

Convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein acknowledged in a bitter email months before his death that Donald Trump told Epstein accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell to stop plucking young girls from the spa at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort to groom and sexually abuse.

In the email, written by Epstein to discredited author Michael Wolff on Jan. 31, 2019 — fewer than six months before Epstein’s arrest on federal sex trafficking charges — and released by Democrats on the House Oversight Committee Wednesday, the disgraced financier responded to Trump’s claim to have booted Epstein from the club.

“[T][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] said he asked me to resign,” Epstein told Wolff. “[I was] never a member ever.”

“[O]f course he knew about the girls as he asked [G]hislaine to stop.”

Nearly eight years earlier, on April 2, 2011, Epstein described Trump in an email to Maxwell, who is serving a 20-year prison sentence for sex trafficking conspiracy and other charges, as “that dog that hasn’t barked,” adding that an unnamed victim “spent hours at my house with him [and] he has never once been mentioned.”

“The Democrats selectively leaked emails to the liberal media to create a fake narrative to smear President Trump,” White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told The Post in a statement. “The ‘unnamed victim’ referenced in these emails is the late Virginia Giuffre, who repeatedly said President Trump was not involved in any wrongdoing whatsoever and ‘couldn’t have been friendlier’ to her in their limited interactions.

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2025-11-12T11:16:46-0600

Hans Blaster said:
Like the turtles, it is pseudoscience all the way down.

I would prefer the turtles.

rambot · 2025-11-12T11:11:23-0600

contratodo said:
They very much do see the sun above them, watching the 360 view of the TFE shows that clearly, I'm going off of the videos provided in this thread, not the top of my head. Clearly, very clearly the sun is above them the whole time.

Ok, here we go dear ones, these images are in response to hopefully much of whatever questions have been asked by anyone that I did not read just yet, please look over these images carefully and really think.

View attachment 373083

View attachment 373084

The question for thought is in the second picture.

The "flat earth" stance I subscribe to is biblical, so the earth is not a flat disk floating in "outer space" rather, the land is in water covered by a dome, outside of the dome is more water, more ocean, the ocean outside the dome is more violent, but we are not under it. The water is coming from the throne of God that is on top of the dome, it flows down and around the dome constantly filling and expanding the outside ocean.
.

If I may blunt.

1) nothing you explain here has been observed. Ever. This is not real. You havent seen it wither. You simply believe it.

2) I want to suggest to you that you are confusing "truth" with "my interpretation of the truth."
If you ascribe to a global earth you are not threatening the inerrancy of His word you are threatening the inerrancy of your own interpretation.

3) the questions you asked are actually taught in gr4 (in canada) and then reviewed in gr 7. Not understanding or accepting this information does not make you a "healthy skeptic". It means there is some rudimentary information about space that is missing.

4) Given the minutae of your understanding was extrapolated and much of flat earth theory is required to go "off script" from the Bible, how can you be certain (esp. With lack of any observation. Supporting it) that flat earth has teeth?

Always in His Presence · 2025-11-12T11:11:19-0600

For those who are not familiar with mortgages:

Are Mortgages Public Record and How Can You Access Them?

Mortgage records play a crucial role in real estate transactions and property ownership, serving as key documents for verifying financial agreements tied to properties. These records are generally accessible to the public, offering transparency and accountability within the housing market.

Are Mortgage Records Public?

Apple Sky · 2025-11-12T11:10:55-0600

Phil G said:
All they do is parrot out the same irrational claims.

A bit like someone else I know of

Apple Sky · 2025-11-12T11:08:01-0600

Strong in Him said:
Either that, or she is deluded, genuinely has memory problems and/or is very lonely.

I am lonely now with my husband gone, but I'm not delude & nor do I have memory problems.

Clare73 · 2025-11-12T11:05:55-0600

fhansen said:
And?? Is that supposed to somehow deny the fact that Jesus raises the spiritually dead to newness of life?

The spirit of man does not die either then, since, as you say, it's immortal.

Death of the soul is a metaphor historically used for the same concept- for that which happens when one is separated from God. And that's the point. So are you denying that man is born dead metaphorically, while truly dead to God, and must be born again?

Metaphors contain untruth.

Always in His Presence · 2025-11-12T11:03:35-0600

Link?

Let me guess - the Washington Post, MSNBC or CNN

Apple Sky · 2025-11-12T11:00:56-0600

Phil G said:
So short of accusing me of telling "fairy stories" or such like,

Never have though.

DaisyDay · 2025-11-12T11:00:46-0600

Hentenza said:
Thanks. Just a quick cursory google search shows that there are quite a few active lawsuits out there.

Yes, including this one: Hundreds of Korean workers detained in Georgia to file lawsuit against ICE - The Korea Times

CoreyD · 2025-11-12T10:58:13-0600

Job 33:6 said:
Isaiah 40:26 doesn't say anything about ex nihilo creation. It notes that God created heavenly lights, which everyone agrees with. But it doesn't say anything about what kind of creation is being referred to.

I am not sure where you got this "ex nihilo" thing from, since the Bible does not require it, as it has nothing to do with God.
The Bible however, does actually say God created things by his vigor; power; force; substance; energy. Because of his great כֹּחַ and incomparable אוֹן, not a single one [of the heavenly stars] is missing.

Job 33:6 said:
Fun fact, the Jewish Publication society or JPS 1985 and 2006 translations also say "When God began to create heaven and the earth".

If we want to talk about people who presumably know how to read Hebrew. The Jewish Publication Society would most likely know a thing or two about the Torah.

Genesis 1:1

When God began to create*When God began to create Others “In the beginning God created.” heaven and...

www.sefaria.org

Jewish Publication Society of America Version - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Continue to ignore the material if you like.
Ancient Jewish scholars, including rabbis from the Talmudic period, generally interpreted Genesis 1:1 as affirming the concept of creatio ex nihilo—the belief that God created the heavens and the earth from nothing. This view was supported by prominent figures such as Rambam (Maimonides) and Ramban (Nachmanides), who saw the verse as foundational to Jewish theology, emphasizing that before creation, there was nothing except God.

...the majority of ancient rabbis understood the creation account as literal in its core message: that God is the sole creator of the universe, and that creation began with a divine act of will. The idea that the world was created from pre-existing matter was generally rejected, as it was seen as incompatible with strict monotheism, which holds that God alone is eternal and self-sufficient.

Job 33:6 said:

Is Elmo saying "Goodbye", or "Be Gone"?
If the former... :wave:

If the latter... No, Elmo. I'm not going, but feel free to leave whenever you are ready.

If though, you want a serious debate that actually leads somewhere, stick around, because I am going to lay the evidence on the table, shred by shred... proving young earth creation - that is... 6 24 hour day creation is unscriptural.
In the meantime, please view how truth is obtained.

CoreyD · 2025-11-12T10:57:43-0600

Acts 17:18-21
18 Some Epicurean and Stoic philosophers also began to debate with him. Some of them asked, “What is this babbler trying to say?” Others said, “He seems to be advocating foreign gods.” They said this because Paul was proclaiming the good news of Jesus and the resurrection.
19 So they took Paul and brought him to the Areopagus, where they asked him, “May we know what this new teaching is that you are presenting?
20 For you are bringing some strange notions to our ears, and we want to know what they mean.”
21 Now all the Athenians and foreigners who lived there spent their time doing nothing more than hearing and articulating new ideas.

Many philosophers debate for centuries, and never come to a conclusion.
As a Christian, how does one determine what is truth?
Is it by consulting what people says... be it there may be a multiplicity of opinions, ideas, interpretations, and the like?

How did early Christians view finding the truth?
How would Jesus establish truth?

There is a contrast between lawlessness - idleness, and righteousness.
Lawlessness
Acts 17:5-9, 12, 13

Righteousness
Acts 17:1-4, 10-12

It was Paul's custom, to reason with people from the Scriptures; explaining and proving by giving evidence of what was true. Acts 17:2, 3

The result:
Some of the Jews were persuaded and joined Paul and Silas, along with a large number of God-fearing Greeks and quite a few leading women. Acts 17:4

Those in Berea examined the Scriptures every day to see if these teachings were true.
The scriptures were what revealed truth to them. They could compare what Paul said, with the scriptures to see if what Paul said was in line with truth.
The scriptures were like a measuring rule.

So, spending time debating with the view that one interpretation is just as good as another, and we cannot establish the truth one way or the other, is lawlessness, and individuals who hold to this view will find out later... one way or the other, that this is not righteousness.

But reject foolish and ignorant speculation, for you know that it breeds quarreling.
2 Timothy 2:23

This is contrary to reasoning from the scriptures and proving by evidence, what is being discussed, as Paul did .
Jesus said... Sanctify them by the truth; Your word is truth. John17:17

Do you do as Jesus did, when it comes to establishing the truth?
Do you follow the example of the apostle Paul,?
Or do you look to scholars.. whether Jewish or otherwise, to determine truth from how they see it?

I believe...

the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.
Hebrews 4:12

Strong in Him · 2025-11-12T10:57:38-0600

Phil G said:
This for sure. I see no other logical reason for her continued posting of this. She has also claimed she won't post anything about flat earth again, or to not post any more Dubay videos again (twice), and yet here we are!

Either that, or she is deluded, genuinely has memory problems and/or is very lonely.

Say it aint so · 2025-11-12T10:56:26-0600

Fannie Mae's (OTCQB:FNMA) ethics and investigations group, who were dismissed from their jobs last month, had been investigating if Trump appointee Bill Pulte had improperly obtained mortgage records of certain Democrats, including New York Attorney General Letitia James, according to a media report on Tuesday.

The internal watchdog group had received complaints alleging that senior officials had improperly directed staff to access the mortgage documents of James and others, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter.

The investigators at the GSE were looking into who made the orders, whether Federal Housing Finance Agency Director Pulte had the authority to ask for the documents, and whether proper procedures had been followed, they told the WSJ.

The Fannie (OTCQB:FNMA) watchdogs had sent the probe about the James documents to the Inspector General of the FHFA, the agency that oversees Fannie and Freddie Mac (OTCQB:FMCC). The acting inspector general then transmitted the report to the U.S. attorney's office in eastern Virginia, the WSJ said, citing some of the people.

That office, headed by Trump-appointed interim U.S. Attorney Lindsey Halligan, brought the criminal case, alleging mortgage fraud, against James. One of the people said the acting FHFA inspector general sent the report to the office because it may be, in part, considered material information for James's defense in the case, one of the people said. -via WSJ

Yes just like the rest of executive branch Inspector Generals, they were fired for doing their job.
Another brick on the wall why all these cases targeting Trump's enemies will be thrown out for malicious prosecution.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-12T10:55:23-0600

Phil G said:
You have repeatedly shown that your "understanding" of a variety of topics on this thread alone is nothing more than beliefs, not an understanding.

I do have an understanding, more than most.

Say it aint so · 2025-11-12T10:48:17-0600

There are two sources who have said Trump is selling pardons. I makes one wonder.

Hentenza · 2025-11-12T10:45:11-0600

linux.poet said:
So you’re just going to work everyone until they collapse and run everyone into the ground?

Nah. I’m retired now so I can rest every day IF I wanted to.

linux.poet said:
This is the theological tradition I was raised in regarding the Sabbath, so I am inclined to agree with it on traditional inertia alone, as in the “this is what I have been taught and I’m not going to change ”. I grew up in the “we go to church on Sunday but we go home and go back to work on Sunday afternoon anyway” group, and even the Sunday service was optional if my dad wanted to go on a nature trip to some campsite somewhere.

I now realize how much workplace idolatry has snuck into our church culture and how much that needs to change. Keeping the Sabbath may not be the correct answer, but the constant pressure for more secular and religious work, as opposed to taking time for real meditation and contemplation and prayer, is our biggest liability in Bible Church land.

It may not be Saturday, but I think I need a structure with time set aside for worship, to focus on it. Otherwise, people will just pull me back into the hamster wheel of endless work. Do we trust our fallen minds with the task of organizing rest periods and deciding how we want to honor the Lord in them AND pushback against those who don’t want to respect any rest to the Lord we set? If we trust our minds, in the power of the Holy Spirit with such a task, should we not take counsel from those we have a structure of rest already, even though we might disagree with them? An abundance of counselors is considered wise.

Like Paul explains no one should be judged about which day they choose. Sunday services have been around since the first century with sources like The Didache and Ignatius among many. The early church celebrated the Lords Day as the celebration of the resurrection which is what mainstream churches celebrate.

Before I retired I worked Monday through Friday so I had the weekends off. As a family, and now, services are on Sunday with the occasional Saturday night service. Structure is important as is going to services but trusting in the Spirit to guide you is just or more important. Our fallen minds are really not fallen anymore since we are regenerated and justified. As a deacon in my church what I see more is people that put their personal lives as the priority rather than to listen to the Spirit. God is awe inspiring and deserves our worship. :oldthumbsup:

timf · 2025-11-12T10:45:09-0600

The death of self is a metaphor for the acknowledgement of one's own ability. It is similar to those in AA who acknowledge a power greater than themselves. Christianity spread for the first 300 years under very adverse conditions. It was not so much the intellectual acknowledgement of theological propositions that were persuasive. It was the reality of changed lives.

It is difficult for us to understand in modern society but up until a little over 100 years ago most everyone on earth grew up, lived, and died in the village where they were born. Thieu friends were their siblings and cousins who were much more numerous than today. People knew each other with a depth that few achieve today. When a person was transformed from a shrewish wife or a drunken husband into some one who cared about others, it was recognized and often desired to have that change for themselves.

The "death" may be thought of more as the willingness to be made a different person. The environments of prison and hospitals often produce people more interested in this sort of transformation. In a country club environment the satisfaction with daily pleasures seldom inspires one to change.

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2025-11-12T10:41:13-0600

And again, OP doing nothing to make the claims about pseudoscience go away.

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2025-11-12T10:40:36-0600

stevevw said:
Inca Stone-Dissolving Plants
Inca Stone-Dissolving Plants

This is the only one I'm going to even point out... but did you actually even read the source you're using? Because it even says that the claim is a story made up in 1983.

Latest activity

Latest activity

Are Mortgages Public Record and How Can You Access Them?​

Are Mortgage Records Public?​

Filter

Forum statistics

Share this page

Are Mortgages Public Record and How Can You Access Them?

Are Mortgage Records Public?