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durangodawood · 2025-12-10T17:36:49-0600

ThatRobGuy said:
.....How about they focus on a different coin-related matter pertaining to Trump that actually has some issues and take a run at his family's crypto-currency scheme......

Hopefully we'll get a D house in a year and they can fire that up.

Oompa Loompa · 2025-12-10T17:35:44-0600

ranunculus said:
You're here defending either war crimes or murder.

I stopped reading after this line. I have defended neither.

Maria Billingsley · 2025-12-10T17:34:13-0600

Valletta said:
Actually at the time of Christ different groups of Jews recognized different lists of books as Holy Scripture.

Yes, and Jesus Christ of Nazareth called them out for it as an error.
Thanks for sharing.

DaisyDay · 2025-12-10T17:31:50-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Trump's 'Absolutely Crazed' Threat To Those Who Question His Health Sparks Outrage
Donald Trump flipped out in a post on his Truth Social platform on Tuesday as he issued an ominous warning to anyone who questions his health, suggesting “it’s seditious, perhaps even treasonous” and libelous.

[The whole rant is worth skimming, but here's the heart.]

View attachment 374309

I think he's jumped the shark!

Gene2memE · 2025-12-10T17:30:38-0600

Two different ways of measuring two slightly different things, thus producing differing numbers. One uses single-nucleotide variants which produces a genetic difference measurement of 1-2% and one uses nucleotide gaps which produced a genetic difference measurement of 13-16%.

The nucleotide gaps method that produces the "85%" genomic similarity between chimpanzees and humans - which the paper actually calculates as a difference of between 13.3% and 14.9% - also produces the following:

A genetic diversity of 8.8% within chimpanzees (ie chimps are only 93% similar to each other)
A genetic diversity of 13.8% within gorillas (ie gorillas are only 86% similar to each other)
A better than 15% genetic diversity between chimpanzees and gorillas (ie chimpazees and gorillas are more genetically distant than chimpanzees and humans)

The low-end calculation of a 13.3% genetic difference between chimpanzees and humans means that the chimpanzee-human genetic variability is would be lower than the 13.8% intra-species variation within gorillas.

(Data from here: Human and Chimpanzee: 15% or 1% Genetic Difference? How Creationism Misleads the Public)

Richard T · 2025-12-10T17:30:25-0600

Mark Quayle said:
I'm not going to subscribe. What was the Port-of-Call of the tanker? Who owned it? I assume it was Venezuelan oil...?

Here is google AI answer
What tanker was seized today by the US? Where was it from and where was it going? https://www.politico.com/news/2025/12/10/us-seizes-venezuelan-oil-tanker-00685289

The U.S. seized a sanctioned oil tanker called the Skipper off the coast of Venezuela on Wednesday, December 10, 2025. The operation was led by the U.S. Coast Guard, FBI, and Homeland Security Investigations.

Details of the Seizure

Tanker Name: The vessel was identified by officials and maritime groups as the Skipper (previously sailing under a Latin American flag where it was not properly registered).
Origin: The tanker was carrying Venezuelan crude oil from the state-owned oil company PDVSA. It had been previously linked to the smuggling of sanctioned Iranian oil.
Destination: The ship was reportedly bound for Cuba where the oil would go to Asian energy brokers.
Reason for Seizure: The U.S. government executed a seizure warrant because the tanker was part of an illicit oil shipping network supporting entities designated as foreign terrorist organizations by the U.S.
Location: The seizure occurred in international waters off the coast of Venezuela and was conducted without incident or casualties
President Donald Trump confirmed the seizure, calling it the "largest one ever seized" and stating the U.S. would "keep" the oil. The move is a significant escalation of the U.S. pressure campaign against Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro.

prodromos · 2025-12-10T17:28:44-0600

Apple Sky said:
And here we are again you discussing the person & not the subject.

Demonstrating why your posts can't be taken seriously.

timothyu · 2025-12-10T17:23:58-0600

narnia59 said:
If we do not come into this world with a fallen human nature, then why do we need to be saved at all?

Simply because at some point we are bound to fall. Self serving instinct.

Mark Quayle · 2025-12-10T17:18:14-0600

ARBITER01 said:
I'm going to disagree with this a bit....

My anchor is Jesus, not scripture. Without His shed blood, we have nothing, so yes, He is our anchor in all things pertaining to this new Spiritual life we now have inside.

I agree. But I refer to scripture as the anchor concerning doctrine, and the results of doctrine. He does not "reveal", anything new separate or not in accordance with Scripture. We can check what he "reveals" by Scripture. He does definitely comfort, lead and cause, quite apart from our reading.

ARBITER01 said:
My understanding of scripture comes from the daily inner revelation of The Holy Spirit inside of me.

I agree with that. Intellectual facts notwithstanding, we get only condemnation from not walking with God, which walking and understanding is a gift of God, not of the intellect. But he uses the intellect too, both to get in one's way and blind the presumptuous, and to learn truth.

ARBITER01 said:
I depend upon GOD that way because I want the direct source of the truth I read on those pages, I want His understanding being given to me, so that I'm not misunderstanding passages, and thereby being deceived, as I've mentioned about so many folks on here over the years.

Scripture is a certainly a foundation in our Christian lives that we need, but we can't truly know GOD by just reading the pages about Him, hence why I advocate a day to day relationship with Him through prayer and worship.

prodromos · 2025-12-10T17:13:52-0600

Larniavc said:
That would be Brownian motion.

Unless it was a productive fart. That would be brown motion.

Richard T · 2025-12-10T17:13:06-0600

Most might know the Federal Reserve lowered their overnight lending rate to banks to be in the 3.5 to 3.75% range. But what surprised me was that the Federal Reserve did not stop there. "Notably, the Fed announced it start buying short-term bonds, expanding its balance sheet. Short-term Treasury yields moved lower as a result."
Source: https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/09/stock-market-today-live-updates.html

So where does the Federal Reserve get those billions that it uses to buy back debt of the U.S. Government? I creates the money. So now the USA is not just lowering interest rates, it is back to basically printing money through their good friend the Federal Reserve. Now if done at the rate of growth, it may go unnoticed, but if it is starting to be 40 billion a week, then these buybacks from the Federal Reserve are likely to cause inflation. (Some theorists say this is not true, others suggest a direct link with a bit of a time lag.)

Currently the Federal Reserve has 7.4 trillion dollars of government debt on its books. As recently as a couple of months ago, they were retiring their their holdings of U.S. debt with the additional debt being financed by others. Thus, the amount of debt is not being lowered as the USA is spending 1.30 for every dollar it collects. So to avoid pain and borrow at market rates, the USA is back to EASY MONEY. The U.S. Fed suggests they will do the bond buybacks for several months, but during covid it was for years, not months and it contributed to the 9 plus percent inflation in 2022. In 2019, the assets created from money printing stood at 3.8 trillion. In 2021 they peaked at 8.8 trillion. So by this money printing both Trump and Biden were on baord and both responsible for inflation. I say this because the serious money printed started under Trump and continued until 2022.

Since june of 2022, the Federal Reserve was tightening and retiring some bonds until a couple of months ago. So Biden should get credit too for reducing inflation because the policies that reduced it were started in the middle of his term. The Fed Reserve over this three year period, got their balance sheet back to 7.4 trillion this year. If they create 40 billion a week in dollars, that pace is two trillion a year SO HERE WE GO AGAIN!.

Such money printing not only paid for your covid rebates for Americans but cash infusions are highly correlated to stock market gains. "Academic studies confirm a long-term positive relationship between the Fed's balance sheet size and future market performance. One analysis suggests an R² (a measure of correlation) of 0.8832 since 2009, indicating a strong long-term association." Source google ai.

My point in all of this is to suggest that the renewal of essentially printing money during a time when inflation is already running around 2.9 percent could create more persistent and elevated inflation. So while you are being taxed on the tariffs you also are taxed by the higher prices due in part, to excessive money printing. I will say too that Trump is going to install his own Chairman and some new Governors that will be even more dovish at lowering interest rates and printing money. IF you notice too that while the Fed lowers rates to their banking members, the mortgage rates actually climbed. A solution that worked during covid was to have the Federal Reserve buy back mortgages. So I suppose they could do that again to artificially lower mortgage rates but the markets are not setting interest rates at all when this occurs and yes such intervention causes distortions that can be harmful.

You should realize too that when inflation is 3% and your only getting 2.5% interest on your money from loaning it to the government or member banks, you are losing money while at the same time paying tax on the 2.5% gain. The USA is not there yet but she may soon be back to negative interest rates on short-term government debt and on longer debt when inflation reignites.

If you study nations that expand the money supply even more significantly, the value in some cases has gone down to nothing. For the U.S. "By Consumer Goods (CPI): According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics data, what cost $1 in 1913 required approximately $96 to $100 to purchase in recent years. This reflects a loss in value of about 96% to 97.5%."

So is there anyone that even cares in the U.S. government? I mean giving it more than just lip service. Saying they want interest rates at 2% but failing to make that happen since 2001. That is deception, not true concern. So I asked google AI. This is where AI currently has issues with discerning intent and motivation. The Fed says they want 2% inflation, but they won't take the action to make even that occur. In questioning google ai I asked for names, and it gave me former congressman Ron Paul. I pressed him about Senator Rand Paul and it answered. "High Stringency on Fiscal and Monetary Policy: Senator Paul has a reputation as one of the toughest votes in the U.S. Senate on spending issues. He has voted against major budget deals and debt ceiling increases because, in his view, they do not cut enough spending or address the underlying fiscal imbalance. His consistent reintroduction of legislation like the Federal Reserve Transparency Act makes him a leading figure in the push for stricter monetary discipline." Google ai.

I am not trying to make this too political, yet it is a serious economic and political issue. Inflation is theft too, and the framers were quite aware of it.

"George Washington: He observed the consequences of paper money in Rhode Island, stating in a 1787 letter that paper money "has had the effect in your State that it ever will have, to ruin commerce – oppress the honest, and open a door to every species of fraud and injustice". Google ai.

On the banking system - "Thomas Jefferson & James Madison: They vehemently opposed Alexander Hamilton's plan for a national bank. Their primary concerns were that such an institution would centralize power in the federal government, favor wealthy commercial elites and financiers over common farmers, and undermine state banks. Jefferson feared a financial monopoly that could adopt policies contrary to the public good. He believed the bank was unconstitutional, as the power to create a corporation was not explicitly listed in the Constitution."

So there you have it. A new round of money printing that is going world wide. The system will hold only as long as investors see value in buying government debt. Even the USA Federal Reserve cannot buy all the debt to target interest rates for loans at all intervals from 1 month to 30 years.

As always we can be dismal for a nation, yet as individuals we can prosper if we hold dear to God's principles on giving the use of money and His grace. May each of us be stay free from the love of money and fix our eyes on Jesus as the wrold's economic system is thrashing in these times. Goid bless!

d taylor · 2025-12-10T17:12:54-0600

Always in His Presence said:
well said.

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Thank you

DaisyDay · 2025-12-10T17:09:50-0600

BPPLEE said:
Why do you hate America?

Sarcasm?

FAITH-IN-HIM said:
While I disagree with Mrs. Omer's politics and lifestyle, it's important to be truthful and avoid spreading falsehoods. Claims that Mrs. Obama married her brother are baseless, yet some conservatives continue to spread them, and it's really sad to see individuals who call themselves Christian these kind of these lies just to make political point.

No, the absurd claim about Mrs. Obama is that she is a man whose husband is gay. ^_^

Mrs. Clinton got Frazzledrip.

I dunno why some love to revel in such dreck.

Mark Quayle · 2025-12-10T17:07:28-0600

I'm not going to subscribe. What was the Port-of-Call of the tanker? Who owned it? I assume it was Venezuelan oil...?

Apple Sky · 2025-12-10T17:03:42-0600

Front Door

Dikaioumenoi · 2025-12-10T16:59:26-0600

Spiritual Jew said:
I'm not going to continue to engage you if you continue to act like you are the ultimate Greek expert while insisting on interpreting Acts 13:48 in a way that contradicts many other scriptures. Scripture is very clear that God loved the whole world enough to send His Son to die for their sins (1 John 2:1-2, John 3:16) and that He wants all people to be saved (1 Timothy 2:3-6) and commands all people everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30) so that He makes His mercy available to all people (Romans 11:30-32) because of His gracious offer of salvation to all people (Titus 2:11). Your interpretation of Acts 13:48 and your Calvinist doctrine in general contradicts all of those verses I referenced and many more.

You think that God alone chooses who will have eternal life and that man has no responsibility in the matter. If that was the case, then why does scripture say that God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked and wants them to repent before they die (Ezekiel 18:32, Ezekiel 33:11)?

There was no "acting like the ultimate Greek expert" in what I wrote. There was simply the accurate identification of a subject and its predicate in a sentence. You refuse to acknowledge the same, which means, apparently, you do not believe what Luke wrote.

zoidar · 2025-12-10T16:56:55-0600

Dikaioumenoi said:
The reason why they are God-taught is not left unexplained. It is embedded in the adjective itself. Again, the expression διδακτοὶ θεοῦ does not depict a teaching merely offered, capable of being accepted or refused. For that, we would expect something like οἱ διδασκόμενοι ὑπὸ τοῦ θεοῦ ("those being taught by God"), which would simply denote the ongoing activity of instruction directed toward them, without specifying its outcome.

But διδακτοὶ θεοῦ is a predicate adjective describing persons as the result of a completed divine action. It presents them as those who have already received the effect of God's instruction. The form therefore presupposes divine initiative and successful divine agency. This is not a teaching that may or may not take root; it is a teaching that achieves its intended effect.

So there's the reason: These individuals are taught because God determined that they should be. The reason they "hear and learn" is not an open question supplied from outside the text. The grammar itself provides it. They hear and learn because God has made them such. He has rendered them "God-taught."

"Short answer: Dikai over-states what the Greek grammar can prove.
The adjective διδακτοὶ θεοῦ can fit a monergistic reading, but it does not grammatically require it. It is consistent with multiple theological interpretations, and standard Greek grammar does not force the conclusion that God's teaching is automatically effectual.

Dikai asserts:

1. The adjective requires effectual, irresistible divine instruction.

2. It presupposes divine initiative that accomplishes its intended result.

3. Therefore the reason they hear/learn is because God unilaterally made them such.

These conclusions are not demanded by the grammar. They are theologically deduced, not linguistically encoded.

ChatGPT

Apple Sky · 2025-12-10T16:55:31-0600

Strong in Him said:
You obviously don't, if you can quote them when it suits you.

Apple Sky · 2025-12-10T16:54:27-0600

prodromos said:
How can you know? You are the one who keeps claiming they are deceivers.

You will know them by their fruits

Anne69 · 2025-12-10T16:52:43-0600

God’s assurance of eternal life brings a quiet peace to our innermost being. It is a promise we can rest in, knowing that our future is held securely in His hands. This certainty steadies us in seasons of uncertainty, lifts our hearts when burdens grow heavy, and reminds us that our story does not end in this world. Because Christ has overcome, we can face each day with confidence, anchored in the unchanging truth that we belong to Him now and forever.

Scripture tells us that eternal life is God’s gift—found in His Son and already given to all who believe. Jesus declared that the one who believes “has everlasting life,” a present reality rather than a distant hope. When doubts arise, they often point us toward our own failures or inconsistencies, but true assurance turns our gaze back to Christ: His sacrifice, His promise, His faithfulness.

1 John 5:11–13 (NKJV): “And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.”

This passage shows us that our assurance rests on God’s testimony. Eternal life is hope for the future beyond life as we know it here on this Earth. John writes so that believers may walk in certainty rather than doubt, grounded in what God has declared. Eternal life is not something we earn, achieve, or maintain by our own strength, it is a gift given to us by God, our Father. Jesus Himself said, “He who believes in the Son has everlasting life” (John 3:36) - present tense, a settled reality.

Romans 8:31–39 (NKJV): “What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things? Who shall bring a charge against God’s elect? It is God who justifies. Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.

Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?

Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

As it is written: “For Your sake we are killed all day long.

We are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.”

Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”

This passage gathers every fear, accusation, and weakness we carry and answers them with the unshakeable truth of God’s love in Christ. Paul speaks from a life marked by hardship, yet his conclusion is unwavering: nothing can undo what God has done for us. God did not spare His own Son - that alone settles every question about His heart toward us. If He gave His very best, every other need will be supplied. No accusation can stand, because God justifies. No condemnation can hold, because Christ died and rose again. No circumstance can separate us from His love. The love of Christ is not fragile; it holds steady through tribulation, distress, persecution, and even death itself. Paul’s persuasion becomes our encouragement: nothing in all creation can separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord. In Him, we are held. In Him, we are secure. In Him, we are more than conquerors - not because of our strength, but because of His love that never let’s go.

The Holy Spirit also plays a quiet, steady role in assurance. He bears witness with our spirit that we are God’s children and heirs with Christ. His voice is not loud or dramatic but a deep, settled knowing - a peace that rises when we read the Word, pray, or simply sit before the Lord. Jesus promises that His sheep are held securely in His hand and in the Father’s hand, where no enemy, circumstance, or weakness can reach. Assurance rests on His promise, not our worthiness. Salvation is secured by God’s power, not human effort. Grace saves us, the Spirit seals us, and Christ keeps us.

Romans 8:16–17 (NKJV): “The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs - heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together.”

Holy Spirit reminds us again and again that we belong to the Father and that nothing can separate us from His love. God’s assurance shapes the way we live. When we know we are secure in Christ, fear loses its grip. We pray with confidence, face trials with hope, and walk in obedience not to earn salvation but because we already have it.

John 10:27–29 (NKJV): “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand.”

Nothing can separate believers from the love of God - not suffering, not spiritual forces, not death, not life. Eternal life is found in the Son, and whoever has the Son has life. Our lives are hidden with Christ in God - secure, protected, and awaiting full revelation when He appears. Eternal life is not something we cling to buy effort - it is something Christ holds for us. So, this week, let your heart rest. Let the assurance of your salvation quiet your thoughts, steady your steps, and fill your days with peace. You are His, and He keeps what is His.

To the Holy Spirit — thank You for guiding every word, guarding every step, and glorifying Jesus through it all. All glory, honour, praise and worship goes to God Almighty, for He alone is worthy to receive it all.

May these words echo grace, healing, and truth wherever they are read.

Acknowledgement: Testimony reference from Richard Wurmbrand, Tortured for Christ (Living Sacrifice Book Company, 1967).

Acknowledgement of Bible Scriptures: New King James Version (NKJV), Nashville: Thomas Nelson, 1982; Holy Bible, King James Version (KJV), Cambridge University Press, 1769: verses sourced using Bible Gateway.

essentialsaltes · 2025-12-10T16:52:02-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Just a note that there are still active National Guard in Los Angeles. And several other cities, obviously.

Still are, six months after this 'rebellion' began. The courts have been batting it back and forth, but here's the latest shot over the net.

Trump must end National Guard deployment in L.A., judge rules

A federal judge ruled Wednesday that the Trump administration must immediately end the deployment of the National Guard in Los Angeles, the latest legal blow to the president’s embattled efforts to police American streets with armed soldiers.

Senior U.S. District Judge Charles R. Breyer said in his ruling that command of the remaining 300 federalized National Guard troops must return to Gov. Gavin Newsom, who sued the administration in June after it commandeered thousands of troops to quell protests over immigration enforcement in Los Angeles.

The order was set to take effect on Monday, though it was all but certain to be appealed to the 9th Circuit.

Meanwhile, the Supreme Court is weighing an almost identical challenge to the deployment in Illinois.

Hentenza · 2025-12-10T16:45:50-0600

SabbathBlessings said:
Not at all.

This is from your own post

In the 1830s, a farmer, military veteran, and devout Baptist named William Miller continued the fervor of the spiritual “awakening” and sought to deepen his Bible study. Especially after returning from war and being frequently reminded of the fragility of life and the mystery of beyond, he focused on studying prophecy in Daniel and Revelation.

What denomination are you?

in 1844 EGW was a Methodist and there was no such thing as a SDA, so you can't claim the SDA church made a failed prophecy, but again we are long past trying to reason with facts.

My question to you was to cite which denominations were studying the prophesy and you did not answer. I attend a Baptist church but as you know there are quite a few flavors of Baptists so just saying Baptists does not help you. You made it seem like every denomination was studying it but you know that is not true. But we do know factually that the Millerites, which were the precursors of the SDA, were studying it and making predictions.

Larniavc · 2025-12-10T16:45:41-0600

jonojim1337 said:
Well that’s funny. Because clouds are formed by water particles that are energised by the sun, which should be a lot heavier than air particles, and somehow they travel upward without any encapsulation.

You can't be this ignorant about basic science.

Apple Sky · 2025-12-10T16:44:22-0600

Strong in Him said:
You want to "prove" that one of your beliefs is true - "here's evidence from the Freemasons."

And here we are again you discussing the person & not the subject.

JosephZ · 2025-12-10T16:43:54-0600

rjs330 said:
Please listen to her story. Its real and it is truth.

Do you have any testimonies from any ex-Muslims who aren't selling books? Fear sells and it seems every ex-Muslim that does these types of interviews is doing it for financial gain.

rjs330 said:
Islamism is dangerous.

I agree; however, the vast majority of Muslims are not Islamists, and those who are, especially in the West, do not support using violence to achieve political goals or change the style of government they live under. In fact, many of the Muslims migrating to the West are escaping from oppression and conflict by violent Islamists in their country. They don't want to bring what they are escaping from to where they are now.

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