Oompa Loompa said:

Killed narco terrorists designated as enemy combatants in the global war of terror.

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The they are what they are because we say they are does not immunize one from breaking the military codes of illegalities.

Servus said:

It's likey that most everyone didn't know that there was a law of armed conflict, until their media made an issue out of it for them.

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You say this like it’s an “issue”; isn’t this what the Fourth Estate is for, exactly?

Servus said:

With the intention of making going against drug smugglers as being immoral and illegal.

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I’d like for us to be better than the bad guys. Out “bad guysing“ the bad guys isn’t any sort of goal for any non-fascist nation.

Servus said:

Being against actions taken against crime has always been the theme, from drug trafficking to shoplifting.

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Holy Dostoyevsky, Batman!

Vambram said:

Baloney.
Obviously, it appears that you didn't read it, but summarily dismissed it instead.

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In order to understand the source for the FOX blurb and the very same authors and article, one would have to read it.

timf said:

One of the problems people can have with studying the bible is trying to make everything fit to apply to us today/ The Word of Faith people try to make the promises to Israel of prosperity apply. The Charismatics try to make the spiritual gifts of the early church apply. Some even try to make the kingdom promises Jesus gave his disciples all apply to us today.

For greater clarity we might look to the writings of the Apostle to the gentiles, Paul. It is pretty obvious that Paul had a different gospel than Peter. Perhaps most significantly those of Israel had to endure to the end for their salvation while those in the body of Christ already have their eternal life.

Gal 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

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And asking and there are those that being the BODY OF CHRIST in. ACTS 2 ??

AND that it begins in ACTS 9. !!

And some begins in ACTS 11 ??

And some say ACTS 28

Just where do you need. it BEGAN ??

dan p

BobRyan said:

parables are funny that way.

Luke 16 is great example of no one praying to God and asking Him for anything at all. A wonderful parable making the point (that almost no one who references Luke 16 chooses to mention) "IF they do not listen to Moses, neither will they listen if one rises from the dead".

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But ... but ....! It's totally not a parable! Eternal torment

eleos1954 said:

God is not a torturing monster ... to think so is ridiculous

Hell is the grave .... Jesus Himself ... and many other places in the bible describes death as a dormant sleep (1st death) why? Because one day ALL will be resurrected (woken from their sleep)

Christian theology holds that Jesus's divine nature is what enabled him to survive death and be resurrected, but it was his human nature that experienced death. His death was a sacrifice made possible by his dual nature, and his resurrection was due to the power of God.

It's about eternal life (living with God forever-eternal existence) or eternal death (eternal non(existence)

We are not to be confused about death ... the 1st death is temporary ... the 2nd death is final for eternity.

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It's the simple and straightforward reading of most verses in Scripture that speak on life, death, and the ultimate fate of believers and non-believers. Yet for some insane reason, Dan1988 over here keeps ranting that folks like you and I who take this simple and straightforward approach are practicing witchcraft, trying to know the mind of God, and following a "doctrine of demons". *rolls eyes* It's impossible arguing with him.

BCP1928 said:

No one has that intention. Regardless of the "law of armed conflict" once upon a time it would have been considered an atrocity to sink an enemy vessel and then machine gun the survivors in the water. Once upon a time Christians would have lamented their deaths, even though they were the enemy. I guess we were just just inaccurately informed about the Gospel of Christ.

Kill 'em all, right? OK, this is a Christian forum and it's good of you to instruct us about the Christian position on the incident.

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It is the 'War on drugs.' Yes it is a war.

When one person enters the US and commits just one murder, rape or assault they should have been stopped by whatever means prior to the act, beginning with proper vetting. Yet they come in illegally so no vetting process. When drug cartels send weapons of mass destruction into the country, which they are doing, killing around 100,000 annually, they should be stopped by whatever means necessary. It is a mandate of US government to protect it's citizens.

Drug cartels are not seeking asylum. They do not consider your life or welfare.

If you wish to make this a Christian issue consider these words;

Romans
' Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended.

Peter
Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority, 14 or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. 15 For it is God’s will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish people.


The evil men who choose to commit these crimes remind me of these words.

'With the reasonable man I will reason.
With the fool I will plead,
But to the tyrant I will show no quarter.'

another_lost_guy said:

Let me guess: democrats were republicans when they owned slaves and the party switched as soon as democrats started doing good stuff too. Lol. The nazis also burned a bunch of pedophile books.

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Southern Democrats were conservative when they owned slaves and switched parties when progressive Northern Democrats started to support civil rights of the former slaves. Over time the Republican Party became the conservative party and the Democratic Party the progressive party.

ThatRobGuy said:

Sure, you can find some examples, but those are outliers, not the norm.

You found 4 secular Muslim-majority countries.

Compare that to the 5 that are full blown Authoritarian Theocracies, and the 20+ that have Islam as an official state religion and enforce varying degrees of Sharia law.

And I would argue that some of your examples aren't good ones.

Bangladesh has Islam declared as it's official state religion, that's not very secular.

It's also worth pointing out that just because some secular principles are mentioned in certain documents, doesn't mean they're being adhered to.

Case in point:

Constitution of North Korea - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Hey, look at all these rights that North Koreans have! Is says so in their foundational documents and according to their "official positions".

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I think almost all countries have a Constitution. The thing that actually enables totalitarian states of the left or the right and irrespective of religion, is single party rule.

Michie said:

Abraham Was Not a Jew, neither Was Jacob… So Who is a Jew? – Unscrolling the Scriptures

unscrollingthescriptures.com

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That’s interesting. So the Hebrews originally came from the north?

Always in His Presence said:

Yes - that adequately describes "The Apostles of the Lamb" mentioned in Revelation

Rev 21:14 Now the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

Which would be similar to the church being built on the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets - note: same terminology (foundation)


Neither was Paul.

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And Paul was not part of Israel. , PERIOD. !! AND APOSTLE To the GENTILES !!

Paul part of the BODY OF CHRIST and we will be GOVERING the UNIVERSE and GOVERN Angels , in the UNIVERSE

as written in 1 COR 6:1-3. ,

And ONLY THOSE SAVED BY GRACE ( ROM 10:9 and 10 will be THERE ??

dan p

Ave, María, grátia plena,
Dóminus tecum.
Benedicta tu in muliéribus,
et benedíctus fructus ventris
tui, Iesus.
Sancta María, Mater Dei,
ora pro nobis peccatoribus
nunc et in hora mortis nostrae.
Amen.

Delvianna said:

However, That is still God's land, His inheritance and one day all of Israel WILL be saved.

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While the southern to northern border is outlined as Nile to the Euphrates, can you tell me where the east to west border is?

Senator Cruz and Senator Booker both agree these savings accounts are a good idea. This is one of the very few times that I agree with Senator Booker.

partinobodycular said:

May I ask you two simple questions?

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Yes, after you've answered my two simple questions.

The Lord’s people will enter the holy Land with joy and thanksgiving:

Isaiah 35:10 The Lord’s people, set free, will enter Zion with shouts of triumph… Gladness and joy will come upon them, while suffering and sorrow will pass away.

Psalms 149:4-5 For the Lord accepts the service of His people and crowns the lowly with victory. Let His loyal servants exult in triumph!

Jeremiah 33:6 & 25 I shall restore the Land, My people will live there. They will shout: Praise the Lord of Hosts, for He is good and His love endured forever.
Psalms 69:36 Those who serve the Lord and love His Name, will inherit the Land.

Psalms 37:9 Those who trust in the Lord, will inherit the Land.

Isaiah 57:13b but, he who makes Me his refuge, will possess the Land.

Psalms 85:9 Certainly, His loyal followers will soon experience His deliverance, then glory will appear in our Land.

Isaiah 61:3-6 My righteous people, planted in the Lord’s holy Land, to display His glory.

Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the humble, for they will inherit the Land.

another_lost_guy said:

As long as we have the Supreme Court we're not a democracy.

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As long as our constitution begins with the words “We the People”, it can be said that we’re a democracy.

another_lost_guy said:

Let me guess: democrats were republicans when they owned slaves and the party switched as soon as democrats started doing good stuff too. Lol.

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The Democrats and Republicans started as one single party and I’m pretty sure most all of them were slave owners at that time.

keras said:

The desecration of the new Temple, 2 Thess 2:4, will happen 1260 days before Jesus Returns.
The Temple will be built by the Christan peoples, coming from far distant places. Zechariah 6:15 They will occupy all of the Holy Land, which will have been cleared and cleansed by the soon to happen; Lords Day of fiery wrath. Revelation 6:11-17, 2 Peter 3:7, +

This scenario is what the Bible Prophets have told us will happen.
To deny and reject it, is tantamount to; deny and reject the whole Bible.

People who put up disgusting posters and who accuse others, are showing their true colours.
I should report you, but those who do see your nasty pictures and 'foaming at the mouth rants, can easily make up their own minds.
I see @Strong in Him - has aligned with you. 2 Peter 2:1-22 has a lot to say about those who the way of truth be evil spoken of...... 2 Peter 2:2 KJV

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Um, nope.

You don't get to shout "Hey, look at that shiny NEW timetable I've made over THERE!"

We're discussing your REAL one.

The one you had "absolute certainty" about and was inspired by the Holy Spirit and made you equivalent to an OT prophet that (so sad!) nobody would believe!

Indeed - if we didn't agree with your interpretation of the OT prophets - then we were REJECTING those prophets!
THAT is how certain you were you really "truly wooly" had it right this time!

This is from another forum member - defending me because you were so out of line!

"Where did user "eclipsenow" indicate that what the prophets write is not acceptable to him? He didn't. That was a very rude and inappropriate thing to say. He accepts what they say every bit as much as you do. He just interprets what they say differently than you do at times."

You escalated. This is how you write to brothers and sisters in Christ that DARE disagree with the great and all knowing Keras!

"As you have no idea of God's plans, good luck for you on this Day:"

Wow. The emotional blackmail!
It's like you're trying to CONVERT us poor 'unspirituals' with that attitude.
It says so much about your style.

You regularly resort to emotional blackmail, gaslighting, martyrs syndrome, Cassandra syndrome, spiritual pride, spiritual superiority, strawman attacks, etc.

You get very personal very quickly, and call theologians I respect "pigs".

But here's the thing.

You have shown yourself to be a false prophet.
There is no temple, and no AOD going to happen early 2026!
But even this timetable from 2020 was yet ANOTHER false attempt of yours, wasn't it?
Because you admitted you got tricked into believing the 2012 predictions!

That makes your current 2025 model your THIRD attempt at guessing the end-times-tables - but your attitude is still the same!

If we don't abandon all academic, peer-reviewed theological studies into how the Hebrews themselves used Apocalyptic Symbolism (200 BC to 200 AD), and just 'believe' you and your navel-gazing fever-dreams - we are ignoring and rejecting what the PROPHETS THEMSELVES said!

Yeah, right.
Tell me - if modern medicine accelerates with AI and we're all still here by the time this THIRD end-times-table fails, what's your next gambit look like? And your next? And the one after that?

What arguments will you come up with then for extending your hyper literalistic end-times-tables?
(Which all in all comes down to that Nicholas Cage movie, "Knowing.")

Sadly, your attitude has not improved in 5 years.

You remind me of the secular environmental Doomers that are convinced they have the math proving when civilisation will collapse under the pressure of resource depletion, climate change, biosphere destruction, desertification, etc.

You know what?

I think they have a higher chance of being right than yourself!

ThatRobGuy said:

I was referring to Ohio State University.

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Sorry, that OSU has 11 fewer national championships than Cal.

Hentenza said:

They still have an Adam’s apple.

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#superstraight

rambot said:

What's different between you and me is that I don't consider a female body "weird looking".

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Yes. Fake boobs on a man is weird looking. Especially if they still have a penis.

Guojing said:

The term “age to come”, where did you get it from scripture?

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Titus 2:12, Galatians 1:4, Matthew 12:32, Mark 10:30, and Ephesians 1:21 all indicate a present age and an age yet to come.

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Is a little bit of that possibly their own fault for not reigning in their more radical portions of the student body just a little bit?

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Yes, violence and vandalism are right out. The ideas themselves remain, as they should.

ThatRobGuy said:

There have been a couple different high profile incidents involving protesting (some of which escalated past normal protesting) in order to get certain speakers cancelled and disinvited from booked events.

https://www.cnn.com/2014/10/30/living/bill-maher-commencement-speaker/index.html

Milo Yiannopoulos event canceled after violence erupts - Berkeley News

Safety concerns stop performance by Milo Yiannopoulos, guest of Berkeley College Republicans

news.berkeley.edu

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/04/26/ann-coulter-speech-canceled-at-uc-berkeley-amid-fears-for-safety/

Ben Shapiro spoke at Berkeley as protesters gathered outside

As conservative radio host Ben Shapiro spoke at the University of California Berkeley, protesters swarmed outside chanting various slogans.

www.wral.com

If Berkeley doesn't want to be "unfairly labelled" as the "woke school"...

Perhaps things like "Disinviting Bill Maher, because he said something mean about Islam on HBO", and "riots with a $100k worth of damage and banned weapons being brought on campus by protestors because Milo was invited to speak", and "phoning in bomb threats to prevent Ann Coulter from speaking", and "Ben Shapiro needing to be protected by 300 cops just to get him to the venue because protestors were trying to block it" is the sort of thing they'd want to curtail a bit.


When you boil that down, it's basically like saying:

"We're not woke, we just have a large subset of people who throw temper tantrums, light stuff on fire, and phone in bomb threats when the college republican group on our campus invites people to speak who we feel triggered by"

And that "bad look" is made even worse when, for a few of those, faculty actually participated in the protesting outside the venues.

The professors should've been the first ones volunteering to go up to mic to take on Shapiro head-on during the hour long "open mic" portion of his events, not screeching out in the parking lot with some of the students.

PR is 90% of the game with regards to perception.

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Michie said:

Nobody is a parasite. We can always add the men that can’t keep it in their pants.

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They should go extinct too.