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SabbathBlessings · 2025-12-02T05:11:52-0600

DamianWarS said:
sure... i never said that either. You seem to be confusing some ideas together. Moses never wrote anything on the tablets; I never said that or even suggested it.

DamianWarS said:
God doesn't write it either, he proclaims it, Moses is the one what that writes it down. He then is invited to go up the mountain to get the tablets

DamianWarS said:
Although he carved the final version (since he destroyed the first) God still put the commandments on it (using his finger as you like to so often remind me).

Hopefully the "he" you are referring to is God.

DamianWarS said:
However, this doesn't change the fact that the contents of the tablets were already part of a covenant relationship prior to the physical tablets themselves. This couples the tablets with the existing covenant, rather than separating them from it, unique to the tablets themselves (which is such a strange idea, I'm not even sure if that's what you're saying)

Again your words not God's.

Deut 29:1 These are the words of the covenant which the Lord commanded Moses to make with the children of Israel in the land of Moab, besides (in addition) the covenant which He made (God) with them in Horeb.

Exo 34:28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the [a]Ten Commandments.

Deut 4:13 13 So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.

Deut 5:22 “These words the Lord spoke to all your assembly, in the mountain from the midst of the fire, the cloud, and the thick darkness, with a loud voice; and He added no more. And He wrote them on two tablets of stone and gave them to me.

The Ten Commandments is the "whole law of God"

2 Chro 33:8 and I will not again remove the foot of Israel from the land which I have appointed for your fathers—only if they are careful to do all that I (God) have commanded them, according to the whole law and the statutes and the ordinances by the hand of Moses.”

DamianWarS said:
And what of the laws in Ex 21, 22, and 23? These are God's commandments (not Moses), along with Ex 20 (the 10 commandments), that all of Israel agrees to in Ex 24 in a blood covenant. Ex 24 itself calls it "the LORD'S words and laws". Moses is acting as a mediator, not an author, and the contents of Ex 20-23 are all God's commandments and laws not Moses

All the other laws aside from the Ten Commandments- God gave the other laws Moses to write in a book.

Deut 31:9 So Moses wrote this law and delivered it to the priests, the sons of Levi, who bore the ark of the covenant of the Lord, and to all the elders of Israel.

Deut 31:24 So it was, when Moses had completed writing the words of this law in a book, when they were finished, 25 that Moses commanded the Levites, who bore the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying: 26 “Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there as a witness against you;

God only wrote the Ten Commandments, was placed inside the ark, nothing more was added Exo40:20 Deut4:13 Deut5:22

Factotum · 2025-12-02T05:06:13-0600

Good morning,

I was wondering if anyone has had experience with correlating the scripture in Romans 9:6, to the post-trib rapture?

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2025-12-02T05:04:51-0600

RainySunflower said:
It takes too much space, that is why I put " ... " in it ?

Anyway, my new point:

" Yes, by the 1940s, the knowledge that the Earth is round was common, having been accepted for centuries in educated societies "

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Why they didn't use globus like a normal human ?

Same when H-person was looking at maps in WW2 , why didn't he use globus ?

The '...' thing from you is pointless because the word limit for these posts are literally in the hundreds. There's no need for it.

As for why globes weren't used... I'm sorry but that is such an incredibly idiotic question it beggars belief that you would ask it. Especially when the answer is staring you in the face. Also: never heard of a map?

Servus · 2025-12-02T04:25:37-0600

Perpetual Student said:
1) you didn't answer any of my questions. So let me repeat:
are you in favour of applying and protecting the rule of law, without ifs or buts and without exceptions?
Do you equate the advocating for the rule of law is loving criminals?

I think there are people making a pretence of advocatating for law in order to condone their support for drug smugglers, cartels and drug lords.

Perpetual Student said:
2) I challenge you to show me any post in support of illegal immigration, terrorists or drug cartels.

You seem to think because a made a post that ended up below yours, that it was directed at you. It wasn't. I quote those whom I'm addressing. If you see a stand alone post from me, it's not directed at anyone in particular. And if it doesn't apply to you, then don't act like it does. However if the shoe fits, then wear it. That decision is entirely up to you.

stevevw · 2025-12-02T04:09:17-0600

BCP1928 said:
Not by "religion."

I thought you just said that they don't want to be told what to do by some religious group.

BCP1928 said:
Or you can just define them out of existence.

I am not sure what you mean. Who is being defined out of existence.

BCP1928 said:
Because I don't consider them a threat to Constitutional government.

So you only see men and religious groups as a threat. What about other identity groups as a threat. Just because you don't see them as a threat doesn't mean they are not a threat. Some people see the rise of Marxist ideology a threat.

We have seen the rise in radical groups in recent years due to the culture war. More extreme politics and people willing to use violence. Why single out some groups and not others. Seems like playing identity politics.

BCP1928 said:
Not at the groups, only at their public policy agenda.

Ok so why is it only about these groups public policy agendas. Do not other groups like say women, non religious groups of various sorts, environmental groups, BLM groups, Femninist, Marxist, Socialist, Trans activists groups, Liberal or progressive groups that push their agenda.

Why is it the religious group (specifically Christian) and specifically men. What is it about the religious groups policy agenda that should be singled out as opposed to other identity groups.

BCP1928 said:
Not a chance. You'll just have to define them as non religious because they are progressives.

Ok it doesn't matter. Like I said it really is a choice between whether abortion is ok or not. Or whether its biblical marriage or not. Its just to be a progressive within the Left you have to accept moral positions that will conflict with biblical norms.

Your more likely to end up in that situation by the fact that progressive in secular society means whatever the current generation thinks is morally ok. That happens to be pro choice and SSM ect.

BCP1928 said:
They mave have started out as moral precepts but the state has no power to make a moral judgement, only a legal one.

What do you mean "They may have started out as moral precepts"

Is not a legal judgement include the moral aspect. If pro choice is protected for abortion is that not also making a moral judgement that the State is allowing pro choice over anti abortion. Its an ethical dilemma. A choice between two ethical scenarios. One persons rights over anothers. Thats moral.

BCP1928 said:
They were all protesting the actions of the state, not its ideology.

I though they were protesting 'white supremecy and the white system of oppression' that had been institutionalised. If people protest against the States laws of say anti abortion what is the difference between whether its the State aparatus or the actions of such.

Why is it not all about what is morally right or wrong regardless of whether its the State system or the actions of those representing the State. Its still about morality.

BCP1928 said:
You think all of that is anti-Christian?

No I am saying these are all associated with ethics. The State cannot seperate morality out of these situations. The State is the body of humans who are the political party with their set of political ideologies which includes moral precepts.

BCP1928 said:
Injustice is what they are protesting. The immorality of it is for the clergy who also oppose it to consider..

The 'Injustice' is the morality lol.

BCP1928 said:
And somebody later added, "Be careful they don't hate Him because of Christians."

Yes that was Satan trying to conflate evil with Christ. You know very well what I mean and the world will hate Christians because of Christs truth. Do you think this is truth.

Do you think there is a difference in the morals of this world and Christians under Christ. Do you think we are all sinners and that need Christ.

BCP1928 said:
Which Trump is trying to turn the US into, at the behest of his Christian Nationalist base.

No its not just Trump and radical Christians. Thats just a reaction to other radical groups that have been allowed to fester and bring chaos. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

Christ church is not even in the game. They are out there somewhere and I think rising as their own group that is different to the rest. A light in the darkness of all this culture wars.

BCP1928 said:
AOC is a devout Christian and Mandami is a Shia Muslim with a version of the Ten Commandments tougher and more specific than yours.

Politics has come down to identity and politicians like AOC have been the cultivaters of such hate and division by making everything about race, gender and other identities. How do you know AOC is not a wolf in sheeps clothing. Ilhan Omar is another,

It seems to me this type of politics of lies and misrepresentations is very harmful and bad fruit.

Isaac the Recluse · 2025-12-02T04:02:06-0600

Choosing nothing negates other things.

NGNEG

High Fidelity · 2025-12-02T03:41:05-0600

Happy birthday!

Nithavela · 2025-12-02T03:39:11-0600

Valletta said:
The stories were debunked long ago.

Nothing then. Thought so.

Moving on.

RamiC · 2025-12-02T03:38:45-0600

johansen said:
Who, besides hitler, and moses, had all the homosexuals killed? And made it a crime or heavily restricted interracial unions? Obviously every tribe and culture has had this problem occasionally, but to the extent it was codified in their culture and laws for more than 100 years?.. or are we afraid to say who had this problem?

I mean systemic nation wide edict, not individuals in a local town.

It is not so much laws which may be wrong and cruel, your post seems to skip the significance of aggressively crushing dissent, the right to express opposing ideas, secret agents operating inside a country on it's own residents, censorship of the arts, and forbidding opposition political representation.

Otherwise, if you don't like the laws, you don't like who is in power...vote them out.

tturt · 2025-12-02T03:35:39-0600

Welcome to the CF forums

Sorry I cant help with your request Hope you can arrange to hear The Bible that works for you.

A2SG · 2025-12-02T03:33:34-0600

Aryeh Jay said:
I dono, Edgar could really rock the lingerie of the time.

I'm sure he was the belle of the ball.

-- A2SG, Kash has big, very stylish, high heeled shoes to fill....

tturt · 2025-12-02T03:31:55-0600

When dreams are from The Lord, there is a purpose. We can always pray and asks Him about them.

RamiC · 2025-12-02T03:30:05-0600

RamiC said:
I will just wait and see, there is a staff meeting on Monday.

Replying to myself, just to point out that nothing was said at all about conflict resolution at the meeting. It was all Christmas and New Year celebrations and opening times. Even the parties are part of the project's services, because we have those with no other gatherings they can go to, and a sober Christmas party is a lifeline for some.

Sorry, no solutions for squabbling parishioners here.

stevevw · 2025-12-02T03:03:03-0600

sjastro said:
As usual you just don’t get it.
Technological progress prior to the advent of Methological Naturalism occurred by accident such as the Kahun Medical papyrus pregnancy test, or through inspiration or creativity which has a physical basis using the analysis of Einstein’s brain as a reference.

Ok so you are saying all knowledge comes from the physical and naturalistic processes and there no such such thing as any transcendent knowledge like spirituality or consciousness beyond the physical brain.

sjastro said:
Do I need to remind you the point of this nonsensical thread is the ancient Egyptians possessed hi level technologies which is now due to some deep connection with nature where you cannot explain how the technologies emerged let alone evidence of their existence?

Maybe thats why your having trouble as its not just about Egyptian advanced knowledge and tech but the giant flaw in the history told by orthodoxy. So thats more about philosophy.

We went into some specific examples that may support that advanced knowledge. But we could also go into other examples all around the world. This also includes the cognitive evolution going back 300k rather than 50k. How discoveries like GT are pushing back the timeline and changing the level of knowledge the ancients had.

But its every bit philosophy, epistemics and culture as the specific examples. Even more so related to how we see knowledge.

Your also forgetting that my attempt to explain how the ancients gained advanced knowledge is spectulation. In fact its more about philosophy, epistemics and metaphsyics than the hard sciences like physics.

sjastro said:
Now we have colorblind Mary as a philosophical argument which is irrelevant as it deals with subjective experience and whether physical knowledge captures consciousness and has absolutely nothing to do with the actual evidence of the technologies used by the Egyptians in manufacturing and construction.

As I said if the ancients had a more direct experience in nature and reality then they would have gained a deeper knowledge of nature and relality. Just like Marys experience of Red could only come from her subjective experience. So to is the deeper knowledge of reality.

In fact even science supports the idea that Mind and consciousness are fundemental and not objective physical reality. So if the ancients were more in tune with this fundemental reality. Then they also gained knowledge of fundemental reality from the bottom up and not the top down worldview.

sjastro said:
Get over it, the evidence clearly shows the Egyptians used tooling as discovered by the archaeologists not your deluded, cognitive dissonant and confirmation bias relying on pseudoscience sites and amateurs claiming to be experts on Egyptian manufacturing.

This seems a blantant falsehood and demands evidence. The evidence does not clearly show what tools were used. There is absolutely no evidence showing how the large granite blocks, and boxes were made. There is absolutely evidence for machining.

No one has given any evidence for the contrary. Some have made claims but have not shown evidence. In fact the evidence they have shown was defeated. There certainly is not clear cut evidence.

Strong in Him · 2025-12-02T02:59:25-0600

keras said:
I see @Strong in Him - has aligned with you. 2 Peter 2:1-22 has a lot to say about those who the way of truth be evil spoken of...... 2 Peter 2:2 KJV

I haven't "aligned with him" - I just liked the analogy of a singer finishing their song, changing their mind, returning to the stage etc etc.

By your own admission, you were wrong in 2012.
There may have been other times over the years when you have been mistaken about something, I don't know. There is a verse somewhere which says that if the trumpet does not sound a clear note, no one can prepare for battle.

rjs330 · 2025-12-02T02:40:21-0600

Nithavela said:
The only therapy and medication that have been shown to aleviate the suffering of those who have gender disphoria are gender-affirming treatments.

Any treatment and medication that focuses on trying to make the people suffering from gender disphoria adhere to their birth gender is extremely harmful and ineffective.

Not true on both accounts.

Servus · 2025-12-02T02:20:34-0600

I'm all for comfort and think we should go back to wearing robes and togas.

rjs330 · 2025-12-02T02:20:01-0600

FAITH-IN-HIM said:
If this logic is applied, should the Cuban Adjustment Act be reconsidered? Over 90% of Cuban Americans who migrated to the United States did so without legal documentation. However, the Cuban Adjustment Act enabled them to obtain legal status.

Congress more than once has passed laws to legalize certain groups of illegal immigrants. They could do so again. I dont believe I have ever said that we should repeal those Acts.

However just because we have passed those laws in the past doesn't mean we should pass more of them. Times have changed.

Factotum · 2025-12-02T02:13:14-0600

I am an Evangelical Christian looking to love the respectful, beautiful exchange of ideas here.
I heard nice things about this community. I have no expectations, I have no gripes. All I have is compassion for everyone.
And I thank yall, in advance, if yall plan to revere those things about me.

HARK! · 2025-12-02T01:54:38-0600

Hans Blaster said:
I got a $1 silver certificate in change a few years back. Do you think the Treasury will give me a $1 silver coin for that?

The Treasury no longer honors the note. The American people were duped again. At one time there were redeemable gold notes in circulation. Then they started issuing non-redeemable notes side by side with the redeemable notes, creating the illusion that they were of equal value. I' don't accept wooden nickels; but the silver note still has collector value. I would sell it and buy the real deal.

Do you remember when copper pennies used to be made out of copper? Then they started copper plating zinc, to create the illusion that pennies were still made out of copper; while they quietly hoarded the copper to cover their bad corporate dept..

Now they're taking the pennies away from us altogether; because on paper it costs about $4 to make 100 zinc penny forgeries.

Robbed again!

David Lamb · 2025-12-02T01:32:01-0600

Oompa Loompa said:
Genesis 4:25 NIV
[25] Adam made love to his wife again, and she gave birth to a son and named him Seth, saying, “God has granted me another child in place of Abel, since Cain killed him.”

Genesis 4:25 Adam made love to his wife again, and she gave birth to a son and named him Seth, saying, “God has granted me another child in place of Abel, since Cain killed him.” | New International Version (NIV) | Download The Bible App Now

Adam made love to his wife again, and she gave birth to a son and named him Seth, saying, “God has granted me another child in place of Abel, since Cain killed him.”

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I think this verse implies that Cane eventually repented. But I cannot confirm it.

I cannot see anything in Genesis 4:25 that even suggests that Cain eventually repented. The only thing said in that verse about Cain is that he had killed Abel. I wonder which words in that verse gave you the idea that Cain repented.

Lady Bug · 2025-12-02T01:31:40-0600

How's this abomination for you - I eat French fries with a fork ^_^

HARK! · 2025-12-02T01:15:10-0600

9Rock9 said:
Can a genuine Christian believe Jesus died on Wednesday, as long as he still agrees that he rose again three days later?

Yes.

In the grave before sundown on the 6th day, and rising at an unknown time before sunrise on the first day, is not 3 days and 3 nights in the grave.

There were multiple calendars being used at that time. The Pharisees had their calendar. The Sadducees had their calendar; and the sons of Zadok were using the Enoch calendar.

Here is a reference to the sons of Zadok.

(CLV) Ezk 44:15
Yet the Levitical priests, sons of Zadok, who kept the charge of My sanctuary when the sons of Israel strayed from Me, they shall come near to Me to minister to Me, and they will stand before Me to offer to Me the fat and the blood, averring is my Lord Yahweh.

(CLV) Ezk 44:23
They shall direct My people to distinguish between the holy and the profane, and they shall inform them the difference between the unclean and the clean.

(CLV) Ezk 44:24
In a controversy it is they who shall officiate in judgment; in accord with My ordinances, thus they will judge it; My laws and My statutes shall they observe at all My appointed times, and My sabbaths shall they hallow.

The sons of Zadok (The true priesthood) , were in Bethabara, beyond the Jordan, in wilderness, where there had been constructed very large mikveh pools fit for baptizing the masses. John the Baptist was a rightful priest in that same area, currently renamed as Qumran by Islam.

Yahshua would not violate the authority of the sons of Zadok (thereby YHWH), by honoring the Pesach by the Pharisee calendar.

Notice which day the Pesach meal is eaten on the Enoch calendar.

Zadokite Qumran Calendar | Zadok Way

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The Pesach is slaughtered on the 3rd day; and it is eaten that evening, which begins the 4th day.

The last supper begins on Tuesday night by the Gregorian calendar; but sundown on Tuesday night, by the Gregorian calendar begins the 4th day by the Enoch calendar.

Yahshua hosted the Pesach meal at the beginning of the 4th day, also known as the 1st day of Hag Matzot, by the calendar of authority.

He was murdered during the day on the 4th day. He was buried during the day on the forth day.

Day one

The sun goes down on the 4th day, beginning the 5th day.

Night one.

The sun rises on the 5th day.

Day 2.

The sun sets on the 5th day

Night 2

The sun rises on the 6th day.

Day three.

The sun sets on the sixth day, beginning the 7th day shabbat.

Night 3

(CLV) Jn 20:1
Now, on one of the sabbaths, Miriam Magdalene is coming to the tomb in the morning, there being still darkness, and is observing the stone taken away from the door of the tomb.

(CLV) Mt 12:8
for the Son of Mankind is Lord of the sabbath."

The Master of the Shabbat was risen on the Shabbat.

I have more evidence that John the Baptist and Yahshua followed the Enoch calendar; but this is a good start.

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