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TRUMP "MISSED THE DEADLINE" TO CALL OFF TX GERRYMANDERING; CALIFORNIA WILL NOW DRAW NEW, MORE “BEAUTIFUL MAPS”

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Please don't try to tell me that people don't want partisan gerrymandering when just days ago that's exactly what they voted for.
Republicans are outraged that democrats are now doing what the republicans are doing. The problem is, a complete ban on Gerrymandering would benefit the democrats. So the SCOTUS is not going to outlaw that particular form of corruption.
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The Thing Most Sabbath Keepers Do not Talk About.

that the Scriptures plainly
That's pretty funny coming from someone who believes that Sunday worship is the mark of the beast. No where in scripture states that. One could worship 7 days a week if one wanted to. But you don't seem to have a problem believing that because of your belief in a certain prophet. A failed prophet who obviously spoke from her own heart/imagination many times. The proof is there. So no offense, but it is kind of hard to take you seriously at times. Especially when you continue to judge others.

The verses about God resting on the 7th day after all his work is our example today that rest follows work. It's not that we continue to seek rest in that 7th day. No where is that stated in those verses. Sabbaton is not mentioned. But that after we enter into "his rest" our works cease just as God did rest from his. The verses "plainly" state which rest we are to enter in. And those who believe do enter in.

Just trying to help people not fall in the same path of disobedience
Again, you are judging others for what you see is withholding or changing God's Word when you believe doctrines that are entirely unbiblical. So who's adding to God's Word with their beliefs?

You are believing in your church teachings just as I once did mine. I was indoctrinated with certain beliefs that were not biblical. And it's much harder to unlearn something than to learn something new with an open mind, only seeking truth. Which is where I'm at today. Me and the Word. Not man's word.

So again, I'll keep to mine and you can keep to yours.
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the "blue wave" last night and the government shutdown

Your statement is misleading.

Approximately twenty-seven million Americans do not have health insurance, typically because their employment does not provide coverage or the premiums are unaffordable, even with the ACA. Under universal health care systems, individuals contribute funding through taxation. Since uninsured populations often have lower incomes, a greater share of the financial responsibility may shift to higher income groups. Notably, this impact is not confined to the highest earners but can extend to most Americans who pay taxes.
Who pays for Medicaid now? Who pays for treating the poor in emergency rooms?
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Why Are Fewer Catholics Having Church Funerals?

Despite its enormous significance, skipping a funeral Mass and instead opting for a graveside service or ‘celebration of life’ for a loved one has become increasingly common among U.S. Catholics.

Death awaits at the end of every human life, and this profound event is also the entry point to the final judgment by Jesus that will determine the permanent destination of every human soul: heaven or hell.

The Catholic Church consequently has always emphasized the crucial importance of celebrating a funeral Mass, since it is the instrument through which recently departed souls can be commended to the care of God — and assisted by the prayers of their families and friends — on their final journey.

Yet despite its enormous significance, skipping a funeral Mass and instead opting for a graveside service or “celebration of life” for a loved one has become increasingly common among U.S. Catholics.

“There has been an overall steady decline in the number of Catholic funerals reported annually by dioceses in The Official Catholic Directory (OCD),” Father Thomas Gaunt, executive director of the Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate (CARA), told the Register.

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The Pharisees are winning

The thought occured to me with all the moral outrage and Culture wars over peoples behaviour and even what they believe and think as being wrong.

How its all focused on virtual signalling, being asociated with the right side of history. Identity politics which divides people into groups that moralise each other about wrong speak and behaviour and preaching how it should be. How everyone must think, believe and behave.

These seem to me the traits of the Pharisees. Who formed a group who looked down on other groups and even within their own religion. An early form of identity politics. But now we have political ideologies filling the void as well as religious ones. We see this in how even the church itself is divided into groups who claim to be the pious ones reflecting the wider society.

We have seen the rise of cancel culture and Wokism which is a form of religious dogma that pushes a certain moral code of behaviour but also thinking and demands that people bow the knee to it.

So the Pharisee mindset has been cultivated or has been allowed to flourish in a postmodernist world where there is no God and truth in Christ. .

If you consider this was one thing Jesus dispised which was the hypocracy of using religion or politics and rules to force people to conform to what was really the desires of a corrupt heart to be the gods of this world. Its another sign of how much the worlds hearts have turned away from God. From Christs truth.
I agree with you but I think it's more to it. You do have issues with people in leadership throwing their weight around or one group over another, but if you ask most people that if you read the bible, do you have faith that God will guide you to understand it, or do you hold to what you (man) were taught? 99% of people will tell you they trust their pastor/leader/modern scholar more and assume they just don't understand or aren't getting it right and fill in a bunch of excuses. People say a bunch of stuff that SOUNDS Christian like, "I follow God" or "Christ is King" but when it comes down to brass tax, their actions elevate man promoted ideals, theology and actions over actually putting Christ first and trusting God can do it. And this is why the world is at where it's at... The Pharisee's trusted their own wisdom in scripture as well as what man taught them (tradition) over God and so, they were blind to what God was really doing.
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So.....did your insurance premium go up?

It looks like at work, my employer's insurance broker has kept the percentage increase in the low single-digits, but it will require going from 4 available plans to 3.

'It's insane': ACA policyholders say soaring health insurance premiums are jeopardizing lives

Doug Butchart, whose wife, Shadene, is living with the neurological disorder amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) said he doesn't know how he's going to pay for her medications. A retired mechanic from Elgin, Illinois, Butchart said he's gotten a notice that the monthly premiums on his wife's ACA policy will climb to $2,000. Combined with an annual deductible of more than $8,000 and $10,000 in out-of-pocket expenses, he said his wife's health care costs will total more than his monthly Social Security check, which they both live on.

Nathan Boye of Orlando, Florida, has diabetes and said he's been informed the monthly premiums for his ACA policy would soar from $28 to more than $700. The married father-of-three said he is now considering foregoing health insurance altogether.

Boye said he qualified for the ACA tax credits after he was laid off earlier this year as an operations manager for a company that imported medical supplies from China.

"We had to close down because of the tariff. It made it impossible to import," Boye said.

Boye said he's already started researching discount drug companies and cash-pay programs on how he can purchase on his own the two primary medications he uses to control diabetes.

Boye said his current predicament has left him feeling like a "tiny fish that does not matter."

"Realistically, I have no control over any of this," he said. "I'm just a person who has to navigate the waters and find a solution."
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In the West Bank’s last Christian village, faith, fear and an uncertain future

Why would people think youre all not real Christians?
What it boils down to is a rejection of the Protestant doctrine of Sola Scriptura. One of the reasons MAGA Christians reject the Nicene Creed as a statement of faith is that it doesn't mandate Sola Scriptura.
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Young earth vs Old earth?

That's correct.


Why not?


These two statements are not the same.
"When I began", is not the same as "in the beginning".
When I began to make pizza, I had not made pizza. That's quite different to, I made pizza at this time - in the beginning.
Grammatically, it can't be both, it's either when I began to create, a present tense statement. Or it's, God created, past tense.

And I would argue that it's actually a present tense statement. Which says nothing about how long the earth was formeless before God began.

Genesis 1:1-2 NRSVUE
[1] When God began to create the heavens and the earth, [2] the earth was complete chaos, and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters.

Like saying, when I began to make a pizza, the pizza was formeless.

But in plain English, no one would take such a statement to assume that the pizza appeared out of thin air the moment I began making it.

"According to the reading of Genesis, the beginning is when God created the heavens and earth. Not began to."

I disagree. The text plainly states, "When God began".

Genesis 1:1-2 NRSVUE

[1] When God began to create the heavens and the earth, [2] the earth was complete chaos, and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters.
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Are professed Christians that worship our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday sinning?

it does if one is not willing to eisegete it into the text.
That's baloney, because for those who can do exegesis and full blown hermeneutics, we know that multi-layered connections of contexts have to be additionally, and painstakenly, accounted for. And when we do so, SOMETIMES we see relevant applications of meaning that are neither allegorical nor what the author himself stated on a prima facie level.
Only if you can show that they never debated anything but the Sabbath.
Unfortunately, the 'Word of God' isn't utterly comprehensive in all of its explicit meanings, so no one, not even the Messianic, nor the SDA, in fact, NO ONE from any denomination or tradition, gets to have the 'final word' on what the Bible means.

Epistemology and human limits just cause our attempts to clearly and fully understand the Bible to falter like that, for everyone.
As it is, we see both Jews AND Gentiles in the Synagogues for worship "Every Sabbath" including Paul, in Acts 18:4
Citing that this is an example of exactly and only what it is you think it means ........is an example of eisegesis.
And in Acts 13 gentiles who hear Paul's gospel ask for "MORE Gospel" preaching to be scheduled for them "The NEXT Sabbath" rather than "Tomorrow, Sunday", week day 1"

Again, Citing that this is an example of exactly and only what it is you think it means is an example of eisegesis.
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Even if (more likely "when") Momdani becomes NYC Mayor studies show the richest New Yorkers will stay

another wonderful AI search:

Billionaires who reportedly left NYC

  • Carl Icahn: The activist investor moved his firm to Florida in 2020, citing high taxes and a more favorable business climate.
  • David Tepper: Hedge fund manager and Carolina Panthers owner, previously based in NYC, moved to Florida for tax reasons.
  • Barry Sternlicht: CEO of Starwood Capital Group, relocated to Miami and has been vocal about NYC’s political and tax environment.
  • Paul Singer: Founder of Elliott Management, moved his firm’s headquarters from NYC to Florida in 2020.
  • Ken Griffin: While primarily associated with Chicago, Griffin’s Citadel Securities had a significant NYC presence before shifting operations to Miami.

The good mayor wants to increase their personal and business taxes.
Now, how many moved into NYC over that same span of time?
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A challenge to a faith we've all come to know

I am not saying that the new creature, through spiritual birth, is corrupted by sin.

I think maybe you are misinterpreting what scripture is speaking about when it speaks of our two natures. We have a sinful nature (the old nature) which is found in the flesh. Then we are given a new nature which is found in the spirit, which we were without prior to salvation. The flesh does not change at salvation and therefore, the sinful nature (the old nature) remains. However, we now have a new nature (uncurruptable) in the spirit that is in opposition to the flesh. Hence the struggle Paul speaks of in Rom 7. Hence why we are told to walk according to the spirit and not the flesh.

Unfortunately, until our corrupted flesh (bodies) are replaced with our new uncorrupted bodies, this struggle will remain. To what degree we find this struggle will vary from person to person, depending on their walk with God.
I am not interpreting the Scriptures incorrectly on this point. I was simply pointing to Scriptures which added depth to what you were saying about the flesh and the spirit. Nothing you said above about the old nature and the new nature contradicts my beliefs.
My whole point with my post is that much of Christianity today places too much focus on cleaning up the old nature.
I agree with you that there is a great deal false doctrine that is built on the false premise that the flesh can be trained to be better, less sinful, etc. This finds particular support in the false doctrine of Progressive Sanctification.
It is more focused on our behavior (dealing with the flesh) than it is our relationship with the Father (which is found in the spirit).
But behavior is at issue in living a successful Christian life because choosing to walk in the Spirit (Ga 5:16) and choosing to walk in lock step with the Spirit (Ga 5:25) is behavior that keeps the desires of the flesh from being gratified.
It seems that unless we clean up our behavior, this is going to somehow impact our relationship with God, which as I said, is in the spirit. God is the one who made this relationship possible. He did everything required so that we could confidently come to Him for a relationship. We had not part in it other than accepting it through faith. So its silly to think that we could somehow impact our relationship with God through our behavior. Yet that seems to be all people focus on, sin, sin, sin. Which, as I made clear in my post, is merely a symptom of our condition (spiritual death). Once our condition has been cured (new spiritual life), that is when the freedom and simplicity in Christ begins.
While it is true that our relationship stands even when we sin, we can and should expect our heavenly father to chasten us when we sin and to continue to do it until we are corrected (Heb 12). Everyone who is His child experiences His correction, it is not joyful but painful when we go through it, but it does yield "the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it" (Heb 12:11).
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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

So here's a thing that struck me that does need to be addressed:

All throughout it's history in the period we're talking about, Egypt was a very centralized kingdom. All the power was focused around the pharaoh, and it all boiled down to "If the pharaoh commands it, you jump to it, lickety-split!". This was also the same power setup in the Incan Empire and the Roman Empire, two cultures that unfortunately suffer from people very over-questioning "How did they do it?".

Because only in states with centralized power has the building force be so heavily and strongly commanded to build great works. We see it plain as day throughout history: Ur, Aztecs, Mayans, Chinese, Indian kingdoms; all the ones that had strong centralized power bases all had great works of architecture done. Let alone when we add in the religious aspects of a lot of these cultures too where the ruler was venerated as a deity on Earth.

Why? Because they had the man power and the upkeep and management skills necessary to command and wield that manpower to create such large works.

Some ancient Greek might have said "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it and I can move the Earth", but everyone seems to ignore that if you get enough people to do what you say when you have the right political power and you can easily build the pyramids.
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Bill Gates Says Climate Change ‘Will Not Lead to Humanity’s Demise’

Is it safe to say then, that the climate change emergency, was science fiction? And that the scientists used biased models in their data sets?

...Or was this a political lever the whole time?

WHO LIED TO US..???? And WHY..??
To be clear.
You now feel this is a legitimate question to be asked because a COMPUTER PROGRAMMER has shifted their outlook on man's resilience to withstand climate change increase.
At no point does he say it was a hoax or it's not happenning; nor does he say it doesn't deserve attention.


It's not safe to say; it's stupid to say. BOTH of those things are stupid to say. Actually, all 3 of those things are stupid to say.

Not safe.

Dumb.
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Are the 2025 elections a shadows of things to come?

Thanksgiving is still a few weeks away, but retailers have already rolled out their Christmas campaigns — hoping to capture more shoppers and a few more dollars. So, I feel justified in drawing from a Christmas classic as we reflect on this week’s elections and what they might reveal about the future.

Pundits are already declaring the handwriting is on the wall for Republicans heading into next year’s midterms, as Democrats and socialists celebrated victories in several off-year races. Many on the Right are asking, “What went wrong?” But perhaps a more important question is, “What does it mean?”

In A Christmas Carol, Ebenezer Scrooge meets the final spirit — the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come — and is terrified by the vision of his own lonely death. Realizing the horror of what he’s seeing, he pleads with the Spirit for hope as he asks the question that pierces through time:

“Are these the shadows of things that Will be, or are they shadows of things that May be only?”

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I think the now dominant Sanders/AOC/Mamdani/OccupyWashington wing of the Democratic Party will either destroy that party or turn it into a successful revolutionary party. They WILL turn it into a revolutionary party, but whether it is a powerless fringe party or an election winning party is the open question.

The Republicans are in abysmal shape, working at grasping a defeat out of the jaws of victory.

It’s really time for new parties in America.
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Can these kinds of people be trusted?

Let's just say this one person is a very animated, gregarious person. They tend to lead the table by talking almost constantly. They seem civil if not cordial, but it also seems that everything that comes out of their mouth is talking about someone. They don't necessarily talk bad about someone (though I don't know them enough to say this), but they're ALWAYS mentioning someone's name in practically every other sentence. It makes me wonder, is this too similar to gossip, or is this more excusable?

ps this is not the same woman who I sensed was condescending on me being a convert.
Is this someone in your formation classes? I would say it depends on the way they are referred to. It’s hard to make a call on something like that without being there.
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ICE officers to attend Super Bowl after Bad Bunny halftime headliner announcement, Lewandowski says

In this case youre just guessing, unless you have some actual insight into his motives. But I think you would have said so.

Is there an option C here?

It's either A) something that's a genuine interest that he wants to portray in his art form (as you stated), or B) something he's doing for shock value to get attention (as I stated)


Are there any other rationales that would make sense for that?
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The Catholic View of Death Is Anything but Dark

The Church has a lot to say about a subject that many of us may not want to think about. That’s the premise of the Register’s first-ever ‘Death Issue.’

For those of us living in the Northern Hemisphere, November is an especially fitting time to remember our departed loved ones and reflect on our own mortality.

Nature does its part. The leaves tumble, the shadows lengthen, the temperature dips, gradually moving from sweater weather to knit-cap cold. Yet there’s also a golden beauty to November. It clears the mind and tugs at the heart to ponder deeper things.

Things like death.

The Catholic Church does its part, too. In addition to the back-to-back Solemnities of All Saints and All Souls to begin the month, the Church’s Scripture readings in November, in preparation for Advent, direct our attention to the “four last things”: death, judgment, heaven and hell.

Suffice it to say, then, this seemed like the perfect time for the Register to launch its first-ever “Death Issue,” featuring an eclectic mix of content on that theme available both online and in our Nov. 16 print edition.

If a “Death Issue” sounds dreadfully morose to you, well, good, that means we were right in thinking that we probably all could use a refresher on the Catholic view of death — because it’s anything but dark.

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The Trump Crypto Scam

What countries are we talking about here? Developing countries?
North Africa and Spain, respectively, I know for certain. It may affect Nepal and New Zealand.
Oh, there are other options
Payoneer is owned by the Russians, so it’s not a feasible system for foreigners to deal with United States’ websites and/or merchants. The United States is at the center of the internet economy.
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Trump warns Mamdani: No federal funds for a ‘communist’ mayor

Key Trump ally jumps into New York governor's race days after shocking Mamdani mayoral victory

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Does Regeneration Precede Faith?

Even at the cost of misrepresenting the word of God? I mean what’s more important here, teaching sound theology or defending a theology that contradicts scripture?
Yes, you are right. They shouldn't but they do.
I had to make that choice a long time ago and I ended up reevaluating my entire theology.
I had a simmilar experience with legalism. It was a tough slog to overcome it, and the process shook me to the core, but God was faithful and led me through it. Looking back, I wouldn't trade it for anything.
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The 2025 Government Shutdown Thread

More than 1,000 flights cancelled as airport chaos begins: ‘People are just fed up’

Leslie Nash of Long Beach waited as long as she could before calling off her 60th-birthday trip to Hawaii with her sisters; she was forced to cancel Thursday or risk losing refunds for her hotel room and rental car.

“It’s a total first-world problem on my end,” she said. “I can always reschedule, but it just sucks.”

Faced with the government shutdown, the immigration raids in Southern California, the general polarization of American politics and now the travel setbacks, “people are just fed up,” Nash said. “Can we have any joy?”

Sorry, Elon Musk promised us all "temporary hardships".
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