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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
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The Schumer Shutdown
- By Aldebaran
- American Politics
- 800 Replies
They were the brave ones. May they be protected from the wrath of the extremists (which seem to be about all but those 8) in the rest of the Senate who just gave us the longest federal shutdown in our 250 year history.
These are the Senate Democrats who voted to reopen the government
After reaching a bipartisan deal, Senate Democrats finally gave Republicans the votes needed to advance a government funding measure.www.cbsnews.com
Looks like there are brave Democrats who know it is time to open the government - here are their names.
Washington — Seven Democratic senators and one independent who caucuses with Democrats voted late Sunday to reopen the government and end the shutdown.Three of them have consistently voted for Republicans' short-term funding patch — which passed the House in mid-September — to keep the government funded until Nov. 21 at current levels. The measure narrowly advanced in the Senate after it secured the support of five more Democrats with the expectation that it will be amended to extend funding until Jan. 30.
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Are the Jews Israel, or is the church Israel? Or does it depend on the context of the passage?
- Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum
- 113 Replies
I think you need to ponder on just what it is your calling "the church."Exactly. God has made irrevocable promises to Israel, which make no sense when people try applying them to the church or ignore altogether. I think it’s very important for Christians to rightly divide the scriptures and understand that there are three groups of people; Jews (Israel), Gentiles (non-Jews), and the church (born again believers-Jews and Gentiles).
“After the Cross a new entity came into existence—the church that Jesus Christ promised He would build (Mt 16:18). As a result, there are now three divisions of mankind: Jews, Gentiles and the church. Paul tells us that we are to “Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God” (1 Cor 10:32). It is absolutely essential to understand that these three groups exist side by side in today’s world, to distinguish between them, and to recognize that God deals with each differently.”
Jews, Gentiles, And The Church
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Acts 7:38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spoke to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:
It would seem that you are replacing the church with Israel.
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New here and introducing myself
- By St_Worm2
- Introduce Yourself
- 7 Replies
I'm sorry to hear that, and I certainly hope that it doesn't happen to you again, especially here at CF!!
That's a good attitude to have, especially online, because unlike the "old days" when we typically talked in person or, at least, over the phone to each other, acceptable/civil behavior is often replaced by rude behavior on social media platforms. People are mean (for all kinds of reasons .. the Christian faith talks at length about why, just FYI), but back when we were regularly forced to interact with one another "in person" to communicate, it seemed so much easier to treat other people like, well, people
Yes, it's a principle that's been around for centuries and in many different cultures, although it's mostly been a "don't do" kind of principle outside of Christianity, as well one that had "self" in view, at least first & foremost. As one famous rabbi put it (loosely), "Don't do anything bad to other people so that they won't do anything bad to you".
While my preferred translation of The Golden Rule wording isn't the common one ("Do unto others...." is), it still says the same thing, so, here again is the Christian version of this principle from Jesus.
Matthew 7
12 However you want people to treat you, so treat them, for this is the Law & the Prophets.
The difficulty with Jesus' version is what He meant by it/how it is to be obeyed, IOW, that we are to always treat others in the way that we, at least, hope that they would choose to treat us, even when they have treated us and/or are treating us horribly (which is what makes always following His version of the principle difficult).
Finally, something that I have found very fascinating and may interest you too is what Jesus sums up for us in the first half of it, specifically, "the Law and the Prophets" (which is one of the ways that Jews refer to the entirety of the Old Testament). IOW, "However you want people to treat you, so treat them" is the whole of the teaching of the Old Testament's commandments, laws, precepts, etc., distilled down for us into half of a sentence (all that is taught to us there about how we are to relate to one another, anyway), which I, at least for one, find amazing!
I edited the first version of my post into what you see above now, because it seemed too long to me. That said, here's the missing quote that I edited out (right after I posted it) from Twain.
(and if you'd care to read the passage in context, here are the first three verses prior to the "list" 1 Corinthians 13:1-8) the whole of which giving us much insight into the Christianity or, at least, what the Christian faith is supposed to look like, anyway).That's a very good quote, as most of Twain's quotes are (even the rude ones
).I have some ideas about that, because that (finding the true and ultimate meaning and purpose to life, that is) is a big part of what finally led me to the Christian faith 39 years ago (I wasn't always a Christian, just FYI). I'll leave talking about that for a later time however, and only if you want to hear about it then, of course.
--David
p.s. - here's another quote for you (one that is both thought-provoking and nice enough for the forum we are on, too
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