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Who was it that determined the 66 books of the Canon ?
Well now you are implying that the Book of Enoch is the Word of God but was kept out of the Bible by the mysterious "they". That is getting dangerously close to the gnostics who claimed to have special revelation from God outside of Scripture. If that's the case then the Bible cannot be trusted either as books would have been inserted or removed depending on what "they" wanted.

For more reading outside of conspiracy theorists:

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The Schumer Shutdown

I didn't say he coined the name only that he distanced himself because not one of his promises about the ACA came true

  1. You can keep you plan - wrong
  2. You can keep your doctor - Wrong
  3. Health insurance cost will go down - Wrong
Here is the truth:

  1. Premiums have increased by 80%.
  2. From 2010 to 2023, the average premium for family coverage increased 80%, from just over $13,000 to nearly $24,000.
  3. Total healthcare costs for a family of four now exceed $30,000 per year—increasing from $18,000 per year when Obamacare was passed.
  4. Deductibles have increased over 50% since Obamacare was implemented in 2013.
Remember this beauty?

Boston on October 30, 2013, President Obama promoted the Affordable Care Act (ACA) and emphasized its affordability. He stated that “for many Americans, health insurance will cost less than the cost of your cell phone bill or cable bill.”

The ACA is not without its flaws, and some of the commitments made by President Obama during its enactment were arguably optimistic. Nevertheless, it remains the prevailing healthcare option.

Since its passage, congressional Republicans have attempted to repeal the ACA 42 times, yet they have not presented a viable alternative. Over the past 14 years, GOP politicians have consistently highlighted the shortcomings of the ACA; however, no substantive proposals have been offered as a replacement. This pattern suggests a tendency to criticize the system without demonstrating a genuine interest in constructive reform or proposing workable alternatives.

Your argument appears focused primarily on critiquing President Obama's statements from 15 years ago, as well as rising health insurance premiums, rather than offering a good-faith alternative to the ACA. It gives the impression that opposition is driven more by partisanship than by a commitment to seeking effective solutions for American healthcare.
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Is purgatory a Biblical or extra biblical teaching?

Well said - not one of those points has to do with purgatory -
Actually they do since the entire point of Purgatory is to complete our sanctification so we are indeed perfected and ready for heaven.

If Scripture is clear that our sanctifcation is something that is an ongoing process, and nothing in Scripture indicates that we are all completely sanctified at the time of our death, the only conclusion is that there is something that has to happen to us after death that completes that process.

You also have not answered my question regarding 1 Corinthians 3:12-15 that tells us that at the time of our judgment, when all our deeds are disclosed and those not worthy are burned off, and that we will be saved, but only as through fire, what do you think that means?
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US announces (special) military operation against 'narco-terrorists'


United States Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has announced a new US military operation that is aimed at targeting so-called "narco-terrorists" in the Western Hemisphere.


"Today, I'm announcing Operation SOUTHERN SPEAR," the Pentagon boss declared on social media platform X on Thursday.


"Led by Joint Task Force Southern Spear and @SOUTHCOM, this mission defends our Homeland, removes narco-terrorists from our Hemisphere, and secures our Homeland from the drugs that are killing our people," he said.
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He’s a citizen with a Real ID. ICE detained him anyway. Twice.



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These are about whether the IRS has to tell you when they subpoena your records (in relation to an ongoing investigation), not anything to do with fishing expeditions or pulling bulk records from a bank.
And the mechanism by which they pull information for multiple customers at once (without even having any specific names in mind) is what's known as a "John Doe Summons"

So it's to the effect of "I want to see information from all customers that have used this particular credit card processor" or "everyone who wired money to accounts in one of these off-shore banks"

Per those articles, it's not nearly as broad a power as you're making it out to be:
However, to safeguard taxpayer privacy and prevent abuse, the IRS must obtain court approval before issuing a John Doe Summons.[9] Under IRC § 7609(f), a federal court will approve only if the IRS meets three key criteria: (1) The summons relates to an identifiable tax compliance issue where the IRS must show that the group targeted (e.g., crypto traders) is suspected of tax noncompliance, (2) the IRS lacks other means to obtain the information so if taxpayers aren’t voluntarily reporting and the IRS doesn’t know who they are, a John Doe Summons is the only way to identify them, and (3) the summons is narrowly tailored, meaning courts will reject overly broad requests that sweep in unnecessary data.[10]
In other words, they can't go to, say, Bank of America, and demand all of their customer bank records to sift through for potential tax fraud.
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5 Christians killed, 44 wounded after Muslim leader calls for massacre over selling pork

Always be wary of reports that originate from Morning Star News. They often fabricate or exaggerate stories relating to Christian persecution. The claim made by Morning Star that five Christians were killed and 44 were injured during the violence in Yumbe is not supported by local reports.

Violence Erupts in Yumbe Town over Pork Sales

Tension and chaos rocked Yumbe Town in Uganda’s West Nile Sub-region on November 4, 2025, after violent clashes broke out between Muslim youths and police officers over the sale of pork.

The violence followed inflammatory remarks made a few days earlier by Sheikh Kassim Abdallah of Munir Mosque, who reportedly urged his followers to destroy pork joints and stop the sale of pork in the predominantly Muslim district.

Police and military forces were quickly deployed to the area to restore order. Security personnel fired teargas and live bullets in the air to disperse the violent mobs. By the end of the clashes, five people had been injured, and one suspect was arrested on charges of arson. The situation remained tense throughout the day, with heavy police patrols stationed across Yumbe Town to prevent further violence.



When pork unmasked fragile fault lines in northern Uganda

What began as a confrontation between Muslim youth and Christian-owned businesses accused of selling pork in a predominantly Muslim area quickly escalated into clashes that left several people injured, property destroyed, and the local economy reeling.

The immediate trigger was a viral TikTok video by Sheikh Kasim Abdallah...

A group of youth who took matters into their own hands, targeting shops perceived to be selling the prohibited meat.

The pork row is more than a flashpoint over dietary laws; it unmasks deeper grievances rooted in historical exclusion and contemporary inequities. Islam in Uganda has long been on the margins. During the colonial era, Christian missionaries dominated education and administration, leaving Muslims, who constitute about 14 percent of the population, underrepresented in public service and politics.

The Lord’s Resistance Army insurgency devastated communities here, displacing millions and eroding trust in institutions.

Yumbe’s story is one of resilience amid adversity. Interfaith marriages are common, and shared ceremonies—be it Eid or Christmas—foster bonds that transcend doctrinal differences. Muslims and Christians have coexisted peacefully, trading, intermarrying, and supporting one another through hardships. The recent violence, therefore, is an aberration, a symptom of unaddressed pressures rather than inherent animosity.

The pork incident in Yumbe is a wake-up call. It reveals not just religious tensions but the fragility of a social contract strained by inequality and neglect. If ignored, such sparks could ignite broader unrest, undermining the peace that northern Uganda has painstakingly rebuilt.
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Trump promises $2000 tariff dividend to all Americans

Did covid increase the national debt in 2020?

Yes, the COVID-19 pandemic significantly increased the U.S. national debt in 2020.
And how much of that was from direct stimulus payments?

AI Overview

The total cost of U.S. COVID-19 stimulus was approximately $4.5-$4.6 trillion in total budgetary resources, with about $4.2 trillion expended by January 31, 2023. The largest individual stimulus packages were the CARES Act ($2.2 trillion), the American Rescue Plan ($1.9 trillion), and the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2021 ($900 billion).
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Release from Epstein files

You consider reading and hearing what people had to say about it as mind reading? Okie dokie.
Maybe you could show us this "all the commentary from the left".

But what I remember (and see from my own writings and those of others at the time) is not that it was supposed to bring the 'downfall of the Trump Administration', but no more and no less than that there was collusion between the incoming Trump Administration and Russia, and as things progressed, people in Trump's orbit were being fired, convicted, or both for the cover-up.

Then (as now) some Trump supporters were willingly oblivious to what was happening. And the cognitive dissonance of the convictions from a 'hoax' drove them to fanciful extremes of coping

If Jesus Christ gets down off the cross and told me Trump is with Russia, I would tell him, 'Hold on a second. I need to check with the president if it's true,’” said Mark Lee, one of six Trump voters to appear on a CNN panel Monday morning.
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What video games are you currently playing?

Oblivion Remaster, while we're all still waiting on Fallout 5, and Elder Scrolls 6. Already did everything I could possibly do in Skyrim (Platinum Trophy, and all of that) and Starfield was starting to get boring, so I'm playing the Oblivion Remaster, since I didn't get to play the original that much, but it's a really good game that is more than equal to Skyrim, and I'm throughly enjoying it though. Newly Remastered Graphics are great, etc.
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Pope Leo instructions now is Jesus apparition not true.

We know the Bible from the testimony of the Holy Spirit to the early Christians of his authorship.

Just as we know its truth today from the same testimony.

To read the apocrypha is to see the difference.
I was just reading from Wisdom this morning. God-breathed text. Actually early Christians, inspired by the Holy Spirit, decided upon 73 books for the Bible. They did so in accordance with the deposit of the faith, which ended with the death of the last Apostle. There were not 66 book Bibles until reformation times when seven books were dropped by men. My point is that the canon of the Bible is not found within Holy Scripture. The 73 book canon comes from Sacred Tradition. Other parts of the faith, such as the Assumption of Mary, are also not explicitly in the Bible. That too is also part of Sacred Tradition. Likewise our understanding of the Holy Trinity is not explicitly in the Bible. But again, apparitions are not a requirement of Catholic faith. Catholics may believe that the Blessed Mother appeared to Saint James or not.
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Fundamentalist or Evangelical?

What is the difference between these two groups? I've been in churches, and had elders trying to instruct me, and they claim to be Evangelical, but I think they are closer to Fundamentalist.

Here a couple of things that makes me think they are fundamentalist, they seemed to not agree with and tried to steer me away from modern paraphrases like JB Phillip's Letters to Young Churches. They try to steer me away from pop/rock music, and some CCM. In their favor I suppose I could score them for showing an interest to get me on the what they believe to be the right path as it were. But its their claim to be evangelical? Maybe they are and maybe JB Phillips is questionable for some in the evangelical community? But I get the feeling a lot of stuff is going to be off limits for me if I submit to these churches. I like to know where they are coming from, what in their view can and can't do, listen to, read etc. as some groups can be extreme in what they regard as worldly.

Is there anything in particular that distinguishes Evangelicals from Fundamentalists?

Young Priests Are Breathing New Life into Traditional Catholic Practices

During the seventies, most American Catholic bishops, priests and laypeople rapidly abandoned the traditional devotions and trappings that had sustained the Church for generations. Those who objected often felt like strangers in their own spiritual homes.

Three recent studies indicate that this trend is finally coming to an end.

Three Studies, One Conclusion​

Younger priests, on average, are more traditional than the older men they will replace in the coming decades. That is the conclusion of a new study titled “Morale, Leadership, and Pastoral Priorities: Highlights from the 2025 National Study of Catholic Priests.”

The new study confirms two earlier ones. The first was “The Class of 2025: Survey of Ordinands to the Priesthood,” conducted by Georgetown University in 2024, and focused on those about to be ordained. The other study was released by “The Catholic Project” in 2022.

The 2022 study gave rise to an article from Pope Francis’s confreres at the Jesuit journal America, “U.S. Catholics are More Liberal. Young Priests are More Conservative. Can the Synod Help Us Overcome Our Divisions?”

Consigning Felt Banners to Storage Bins​


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Does the Hebrew grammar of Daniel 9:24–27 support Christian Widener’s “double seventy-weeks” interpretation?

Your response and chart is so confusing.

Here, please type what day of the 2520 day seven years does the 1335 days period end on ?

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How a Profound Moment at Mass Helped an Atheist Discover His Call to the Priesthood

"...at that moment, He planted the seed of my vocation."

During Mass, Ángel David understood God’s call for his life.

This is the story of a Mexican seminarian who discovered his vocation to the priesthood after his parents’ profound conversion and his family’s journey from atheism to faith.

From Practical Atheism to Encountering God​

Ángel grew up in a large family that considered itself religious but lived what he calls “practical atheism,” essentially ignoring God’s presence in everyday life.

Along with his four siblings and his parents, he acknowledges,

“We didn’t see God in our daily lives, much less go to Mass.”

Everything changed when his parents decided to return to the faith, receive the sacraments, and marry in the Church. From that moment on, the family became actively involved in evangelization.

“Seeing my parents return to their faith was the seed of the vocation God planted in me—and He continues to nurture it every day,” Ángel told the CARF Foundation.
His family’s renewed Christian life became the fertile ground where his vocation first began to take shape.

The Moment He Discovered His Calling​


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It’s a Falsehood That Catholics Don’t Know & Use The Bible

A common name many Protestants and Evangelical Christians call themselves is “Bible Christians.” These same Christians criticize Catholics for not knowing their Bibles, reading their Bibles, and referencing their Bibles enough. However, the truth is Catholics are indeed Bible Christians.


Catholics believe that the Bible is the inspired Word of God. The Church maintains that Scripture, together with Sacred Tradition, are the supreme rule of Faith. God inspires both, and both impart the Word of God.


Pope Paul VI in the document “Dei Verbum” (“The Word of God”) promulgated that the Bible “stands as the support and energy of the Church, the strength of faith for her sons, the food of the soul, the pure and everlasting source of spiritual life” (Dei Verbum 21).


Moreover, the Catholic Church is responsible for the Bible’s original coordination and publication. Catholics compiled, canonized, and preserved the Bible centuries before so-called Protestants and Evangelicals even existed. One could say that when non-Catholic Christians reach for the Bible, they are holding a Catholic book in their hands.


The Catholic Mass Has Its Roots In the Bible

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50-year mortgages a 'great idea'? Maybe, Pastor Mark Driscoll says

From the article linked in the OP....

Chase acknowledged that while 50 years does extend the life and amount of interest paid on the loan, borrowers can choose to pay it off before the loan ends. “You can pay it off very quickly. You can refinance it down the road,” he said. “I think when interest rates are high, something like this makes a lot of sense to me.”

He said that while borrowers “do have to be wise,” they can always choose to take their savings to pay down their principal more quickly. “If you're a smart steward and you're a godly man and you do something like a 50-year mortgage and you take the extra money and you invest it or pay down your house faster, you're going to be in a great position in 10, 15, 20 years,” he said.

That is true. You can do the same thing today with your vehicle.
But, I run into more people that are upside down (owe more on the loan than the vehicle is worth) than I do people who have a paid off vehicle.

I can't help but wonder if the same will happen here. Where people could pay it off early, but instead get trapped into very long term debt.
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Iowa man receives life in prison for 2023 stabbing of Nebraska priest

An Iowa man will spend the rest of his life behind bars after he pleaded guilty in October to stabbing a Nebraska priest to death in 2023.

Kierre Williams last month pleaded guiltyto the assault that claimed the life of Father Stephen Gutgsell. Williams broke into the rectory of St. John the Baptist Parish in Fort Calhoun on Dec. 10, 2023, and stabbed Gutgsell, who later died of his injuries at a hospital.

Williams himself was arrested shortly thereafter. He originally argued that he was not guilty of the murder by reason of insanity before changing his plea to guilty last month.

Washington County Chief Deputy Attorney Erik Petersen said in court this week that the murder “shattered the innocence” of the small town of Fort Calhoun.

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Are professed Christians that worship our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday sinning?

Let me suggest that you study hermeneutics and the proper techniques to apply historical and by linguistic context. You missed both by quote mining verses wretched out of context.

Initially the Christian movement was indeed called the way. These verses pertain to a charge of public menace against Paul brought to Felix, governor, by the priest Ananias.

In verse 5 Ananias is bringing the charges against Paul who, by his evangelizing of the Jews, is creating dissent. This verse is a perfect example of why the Christians are NOT Israel since both are contrasted.

Acts 21: 27 And when the seven days were almost ended, the Jews which were of Asia, when they saw him in the temple, stirred up all the people, and laid hands on him, 28 Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place.

While it is true Paul was turning people away from the "Jews religion", he did so because they were not promoting God's Laws, rather, if a man believes in the Jesus "of the Bible", they were promoting their own Laws, their own religious traditions and were "children of the devil".

Mark 7: 9 And he said unto them, Full well "ye reject the commandment of God", that ye may keep "your own tradition".

As a Pharisee, Paul explained he was more zealous for these traditions.

Gal. 1: 13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it: 14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of "the traditions of my fathers".

Stephen also points this out for those interested in seeking God's Truth.

Acts. 7: 51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, "so do ye".

52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers: 53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.

And Jesus confirms this in Matt. 23: 1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,

2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say (they promote the Law of Moses), and do not.

4 For they (Pharisees, not God as the deceiver would have us believe) bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. (Peter speaks to this "Yoke" in Acts 15.)

So the implication of your sermon, that the Pharisees were promoting "the Law of Moses" while those who, as Paul teaches, "Yielded themselves to God", rejected the Law of Moses, is a teaching that is wrought in the heart of man, not the Inspired Word of God.

Ananias uses the term “sect” to describe the sect of the Nazarenes. The Greek word for sect here is hairesis which is where we get the word heresy. The historical context of Nazareth is a place that elicited both contempt and reproach among both Romans and Jews.

Verse 14 is spoken by Paul in his defense stating that “in accordance to the way”, the Christian movement, that “they” call a sect, a heresy, with “they” meaning the Jews. Again here there is a clear distinction between the way and the Jews.

The Pharisees and their rebellious fathers that the Jesus "of the Bible" called "children of the devil", had been persecuting the "Church of God" or as Paul teaches, "The Way of the Lord", since Cain and Abel. The Prophets promoted the same Gospel as Jesus and Paul did, and the uncircumscribed of the heart Jews called them heretics as well, and killed many of them. They were shown the Gospel, but didn't believe it either.

Abraham didn't do this when confronted by the "Way of the Lord".

Gen. 18: 18 Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?

19 For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep "the way of the LORD", to do justice and judgment; that the LORD may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him.


Caleb was almost stoned to death because he "Yielded Himself" to the Way of the Lord.

So the Faithful, those who placed their trust in the Lord, including Saul who turned away from the "Jews Religion" which had full well rejected the commandments of God, refused to submit to the Righteousness of God, and went about establishing and promoting their own Righteousness, are always persecuted by this world's religious system.

When Saul was living by and promoting the Pharisees religious traditions, commandments and philosophies, Saul was their buddy. But when he turned to God and the "Way of the Lord" that all the Faithful in the entire bible walked in, he became hated by the religious system of this world. They falsely accused him of teaching against God's Laws, just as you and "many" who call Jesus Lord, Lord, accuse Paul of teaching against God's Laws.

But he wasn't. And the Scriptures Hark showed you teaches this, if you could only believe.

Acts 24: 12 And they neither found me in the temple disputing with any man, neither raising up the people, neither in the synagogues, nor in the city:

13 Neither can they prove the things whereof "they now accuse me".

14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way "which they call heresy", the Way the Prophets promoted, and were killed for promoting. The way David Lived by, and was persecuted every day. The way Shadrack lived by, and obeyed even at the risk of being cast into a furnace of fire. The way Zacharias, Simeon, Anna and the Wise men lived.

The way and the Commandments Jesus Lived by has always been taught against by this world's religions. Paul, who had "put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness." understood this and told us. "so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:

These verse say exactly the opposite to what you are forcing them to say. It is a hermeneutical disaster.

No, Hark understands that the "Faithful believers" in the Bible, never Judged God or His "instruction in righteousness". They Glorified God "AS GOD", and therefore understood it was simply their reasonable serve to Trust that God knows what is better for them, than those "many" who call Jesus Lord, Lord, and "profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate".

The mainstream preachers of Paul's time were shown all this as well, but their pride and selfishness was more important to them than submitting to God.

It was the "Jews religion" that led men astray, not God's Laws as "Many" who come in Christ's Name promote.
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Which states are most and least charitable? New study answers

Well - getting into red vs blue didn't take long.
Who woulda thunk it?!? ;)

Here are the top 10 as identified by the study with a column added for red, blue or purple state.

Results are...... *drumroll*

In the top 10 the top 2 states are red, 3 are purple, the remaining 5 are blue.

One thing that did strike me when looking at the full results. The south has a reputation for being hospitable, but it doesn't appear to translate into being charitable.

#State
Total Score​
Volunteering Rank​
Giving Rank​
Color
1Wyoming
69.49​
2​
6​
Red
2Utah
68.59​
1​
19​
Red
3Maryland
65.16​
20​
3​
Blue
4Minnesota
64.72​
5​
15​
Blue
5Virginia
63.42​
28​
1​
Purple (leans blue)
6Colorado
63.17​
11​
8​
Blue (was purple, now solid blue since 2016)
7Delaware
62.38​
8​
18​
Blue
8Maine
61.20​
6​
31​
Purple (split electoral votes, mixed statewide behavior)
9Pennsylvania
61.07​
12​
12​
Purple (true swing state)
10Oregon
60.68​
7​
35​
Blue
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Is engineering a ‘super’ human being a good idea?

According to reports in The Wall Street Journal, billionaires in Silicon Valley are trying to expand the frontiers of genetic engineering in the eternal quest to create genetically engineered human beings with enhanced intelligence and traits preferred in different cultures.

Editing genes in sperm, eggs and embryos is currently banned in the United States. The current effort by Preventive, a Silicon Valley startup, involves a couple with a genetic abnormality who want to participate in producing a genetically engineered embryo.

Scientists are currently employing technologies for treating genetic birth defects (including edited and inserted DNA after birth, but not before birth).

In fact, scientists and medical ethicists have been calling “for a global moratorium until the ethical and scientific questions get resolved.”

Preventive is the harbinger of other efforts in Silicon Valley and beyond that are pushing all boundaries in the areas of genetic engineering and reproductive technologies. The stated goal is one of attempting to cure genetic diseases and genetic birth defects. The stated goal is to produce babies “who are free of genetic disease and resilient against illnesses.”

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