walter45 said:

Why would people need to be raised from the dead from there grave if they were already alive?

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The grave is in the here and now, in these walking wet dust piles.

Col. 3:3
For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.

The raising transpires when we put off corruption, dishonor and weakness, 1 Cor. 15:42-46

walter45 said:

Why do people believe that they are alive on the first day after their death, when Jesus says they are raised from the dead on the last day?

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Hours, days, months, years and times are not as they appear on the surface.

How can a first be last and a last be first? Matt. 19:30

Strong in Him said:

Graity? No.

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I think it refers to the natural changing of hair colour as you age beyond your 50's

ChubbyCherub said:

1 John 1:8-10
8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us.

1 John 3:6-10
6 No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him. 7 Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. 8 The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. 9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. 10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.

I read this last night after a weekend of heavy drinking and eating.

This is not a habitual thing for me. I have drank less than 10 times this year but I have been struggling with overeating due to heavy restriction of calories, since the beginning of this year, in an effort to lose weight.

I have lost about 50 pounds and am only 10 pounds away from goal weight. But, the stress of it all (turning away all social engagements, business engagements, family time etc) causes me to overeat when I start to eat any sugary foods and drinking magnifies the craves and reduces all inhibition and self-control.

So, to my way of thinking, I am not only drinking to excess but then engaging in gluttony, or self sabotage or, I don't really know 100% what the exact sin would be but the action of drinking too much and then overeating seems sinful. Also, I don't view these things as glorifying God or being a light to unbelievers (my family) so it would seem to me that I am indeed sinning.

In an effort to understand, I read the above verses last night.

With regards to 1 John 1:8-10, I believe I am a sinner, have confessed my sins, asked for forgiveness and accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and savior.

With regards to 1 John 3:6-10, sin is of the devil, and 'No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. 10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are,'

Am I truly saved then if I continue to sin? Am I sinning? I have prayed and acknowledged that I'm not sure about either of these points but, really, I am sure I am saved because I have done what the Bible says saves us according to Romans 10:9-13:

9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. 11 As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.”[e] 12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”[f]

Any and all help is appreciated. On one hand, I feel broken hearted. I certainly do not want to be of the devil and I want to live my life for Christ and have assurance that I will be with Him when the time comes. On the other hand, I feel like I'm misunderstanding something and overreacting. On the other hand, I feel like I could want that to be the case because the consequences are devastating and I wouldn't know what the point of anything was anymore...

If you could help me, I would be forever grateful, thank you and God bless.

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The two verses you quoted indicate an ongoing lifestyle, or continuous attitude of repentance. 1 Jn. 3:6-10 is not talking about absolute sinless perfection. Therefore, it's about direction in life, not a state of being. Consider this: the sinful nature causes people to be self-centered. If God made us sinlessly perfect, it would not take long until we're thinking that we overcame sin, and think we don't still need our Savior's deliverance. Therefore, God has to leave us in some minimal sin in order to keep our conscience realizing we still need Jesus to save us. Paul acknowledges the reality of our continued sinfulness by saying, "the body is dead because of sin, but the spirit is alive because of righteousness" (in Rom. 8).

With that said, why do you think you're a glutton? Is it because after eating "too much" you feel physically miserable? You're simply experiencing the consequence of your lack of self-control. Did you drink too much alcohol? You're experiencing the consequence of it, and of course you feel guilty if you were staggering drunk. It doesn't mean you're not saved (spiritually) or lost salvation. It means you've lost your peace in relationship with God. So you need to consider that your sense of peace with God is a treasure that you will not trade for any worldly satisfaction.

Consider this: if you think you should be perfect in self-control, then since that is one of the fruits of the Spirit, then it means you have to be perfect in love, in joy, in peace, in faithfulness, in goodness, etc. etc., IOW sinlessly perfect. IMO you should learn how to live by faith, which means practicing the awareness of God's presence, seeking Him for help in all you do. In this way you will glorify God by your faith. Stop worrying about your salvation, because what Jesus did for you was sufficient to save you completely. So you should stop "working" on your sins, and start/continue your real spiritual work, by trusting Jesus to deliver you from all unrighteousness (1 Jn. 1:9). Live by the grace of God, not by your will-power. Surrender to God and let Him direct your will.

The idea is to trust Jesus for your eternal destiny 100%, and it is possible with such encouragement as what the apostle and elder John gave us in 1 Jn. 5:1 - "Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God." It says "everyone," so that includes you, if indeed you trust Jesus to completely take care of your eternal future. It says, "has been born of God," so that means God will never let you go, since you are His child. If you need chastisement, He will do it, according to Heb. 12. A guilty conscience is part of that chastisement, the first level. Sometimes if we persist in sin, the next level is economic hardship. The idea is that we learn how to overcome by faith, when we find ourselves, our will-power, too weak to avoid succumbing to temptation. Jesus said, "the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak."

Therefore, it is the devil who wants you believe that you're not saved or has lost salvation. If anyone even suggests to you a condemnation, don't listen to them. Only listen to God, who said, "I will never leave you, nor will I ever forsake you." Jesus said, "My sheep hear My voice, and they follow Me, and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish." Once these words become the basis of our relationship with God, and we are practicing our awareness of His presence, and we are fellowshipping with other Christians, and we are memorizing scripture and reading it, and praying, then how can any of us be condemned, seeing it says, "the righteous shall live by faith"? Your faith is being tested, so keep on trusting Christ as your deliverer for the rest of your natural life.

Fervent said:

I think it's pretty clear they're most likely going to go with an empty suit with a flashy smile.

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Isn’t that every American president ever? It’s always been a flashy smile competition. It’s all surface visuals. When was the last short ugly American President?

That’s why America is in its current state. It elects hi riz Presidents.

And, perhaps, also, acceptance that in community life, you don't always get your own way. But for some people, that's a real struggle!

Predynastic Egyptian bikes might have been built with precision but had a durability issue.

childeye 2 said:

NOT giving in to wrong desires requires knowing they are wrong desires and why. So now knowledge comes into play, not subjectively but objectively true information. And it's true that knowledge makes us more responsible in the sense we know better. But wouldn't it be better said that we make our own decisions to NOT DO what is wrong because we Love others? Wouldn't it be better to thank God for the brotherly love that causes us to act responsibly without deliberating <-- Here is where the will/way/want is not manifested by the ability to choose otherwise, but through brotherly Love <--God's Way.

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Would you say one's conscience gives them subjective knowledge?
How does one gain objective knowledge?

childeye 2 said:

First off, when Paul says Adam was not deceived, I don't think Paul is meaning to point out that Adam knew what he was doing because Adam knew God told him not to eat because he would surely die. I say that because Paul would have known that the woman also knew that too, because she said, "God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die".

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What we think isn't relevant.
Paul made a contrast between one person being deceived, and the other not.
That points out that one person - Adam - made a choice to do what was wrong, without being misled.
When someone is not misled into doing something wrong, but they do it, is it deliberate - done with or marked by full consciousness of the nature and effects; intentional, and willful - done in a manner which was intended?

The choice to do what is wrong without being misled
Choosing to do what is wrong while fully aware of its moral implications—knowing it is wrong and still proceeding—is a deliberate act of moral failure. This choice is often described as a conscious violation of one's own ethical standards or principles, and it reflects a decision made despite knowing the correct course of action. In ethical frameworks, such a decision may be analyzed through the lens of consequences, rules, or character. For instance, someone might refrain from lying because they believe it leads to bad outcomes , or because they follow a rule that demands honesty , or because they identify as an honest person. Choosing to act wrongly in spite of these considerations indicates a prioritization of personal interest, emotion, or bias over moral duty.

The decision to do wrong is not merely a mistake or a lapse in judgment; it is a choice made with full knowledge of the right alternative. This awareness can intensify the moral weight of the action, as it involves a willful disregard for truth, fairness, or the well-being of others.

childeye 2 said:

So some theologians tend to take it out of context and think Paul is saying Adam deliberately, willfully disobeyed of his own initiative (which is a different sentiment than Adam knew God told him not to eat or he would surely die), in other words they suggest that Paul is inferring rebellion by saying Adam was not deceived.

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Can you provide a reference where some theologians take this out of context.

childeye 2 said:

I have already shown how that mischaracterization of Paul's intended sentiments ends in a contradiction of reasoning. Here it is-> It would mean that Paul is saying that the woman, who was deceived/tricked into disobeying God, should follow the lead of the man who knowingly and deliberately rebelled against God. That would be like saying we should follow those leaders who knowingly and willfully rebel against God.

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Tricked into disobeying God?
How was Eve tricked?

Deceived does not necessarily mean tricked.
For example,, one who deceives their own mind, does not trick their mind.
They just convince themselves of something they believe... or want to believe.
Deceiving one's own mind refers to the psychological process of self-deception, where an individual convinces themselves of a belief they know or believe to be false, often to avoid discomfort, maintain self-esteem, or rationalize behavior.

It wasn't like Eve didn't know what God told her. She knew.
When Satan said, “Did God really say you must not eat the fruit from any of the trees in the garden?” Insinuating that God was wickedly withholding something good from them.
Eve responded... “We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, but God said, ‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.’”
Satan's approach was deceptive... a cunning way to sow suspicion and doubt.

Eve believed the lie. She believed what was false, to be true. The Bible doesn't say she was tricked into believing.
A person can chew over doubts and fatten suspicion, by entertaining a thought.

However, it was Satan's intent to mislead her, so I am not going to make this a subject of argument, as it's "small potatoes" and would detract from the main point... which is, that Adam was not misled into believing the lie.
That's what it means to be deceived. Deceive - To cause to believe what is not true; mislead

childeye 2 said:

Given that the Genesis account does not depict the serpent talking to Adam, Paul is probably simply inferring that the woman was the one deceived by the serpent, not the man. It is remarkable that nowhere else in scripture that I know of, is it mentioned or implied that Adam was not deceived or not misled in some way by the woman and that he willfully rebelled against God.

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Probably?
Remarkable? Why... because you think something you believe is probably true?

childeye 2 said:

On the other hand, it's possible that Adam knew what he was doing and was NOT deceived, because he could have wanted to die with Eve rather than live without her which would not mean he had a rebellious spirit against God.

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Could have?
Let's be clear... If you think you are not speculating, please check the dictionary for the word speculate.
Then let's end this conversation, if speculation is all you think we have to go on, because it's no use using the scriptures if nothing can be established from them.

childeye 2 said:

It's possible he could have decided to die with Eve rather than live without her. Assuming he wouldn't choose to eat and die had she not eaten in the first place, the circumstances would qualify as an antecedent event, wherein he might have felt forced to volunteer to die with her,

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Possible?
Assuming?
Might have?
Okay, moving on.

childeye 2 said:

This is an adjective not a noun. It's talking about a voluntarily action i.e. "acting on one's own accord" I'm not saying such willful sinful actions can't occur like in Hebrews 6:4-6 and 10:26. I would note that these scriptures are speaking more rhetorical, as warnings. I won't call such a will that wants to be ruled by sin a free will, because I want to show free as objectively positive in God's Way. The bible also shows actions that occur NOT of one's own accord. Primarily through believing things that are untrue and reasoning upon them as if they were true.

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This is an adjective not a noun. It's talking about a voluntarily action i.e. "acting on one's own accord" I'm not saying such willful sinful actions can't occur

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Then you, in the same breath, turn around and say

I won't call such a will that wants to be ruled by sin a free will

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"Such a will" is a noun, which I don't see mentioned in Hebrews 6:4-6
Unless you are referring to "sinning willfully" mentioned in Hebrews 10:26, which is describing having the ability to willingly sin or not - that is choosing of one's own accord, or one's own free will, either to refrain from practicing sin, or practicing sin... is actually free will.

It's not describing a will. It's not a noun. It's describing a voluntary action, which is exactly an adjective. Which is exactly what I started with.
The Greek word hekousios - meaning free will, is the neuter of a derivative from hekon; voluntariness -- willingly, which is (an adjective, a primitive term) – properly, willing; "unforced, of one's own will, voluntary" (J. Thayer), i.e. acting on one's own accord. The root (hek-) emphasizes intentional, deliberate action (choice), i.e. "of free-will" (J. Thayer).

If a person can refrain from sinning willfully or give into sinning willfully - one or the other, that person has free will.
Why do you not accept that?

rambot said:

So ALL the people who have said "release rhe epstein files" are just chaos agents or it just those lefties?

I remember when ALMOST every poster on CF was calling for the release.
To those who don't call foe it now, what has changed?


A quote like this makes it sound like the accusations just arise out of think vapor clouds.
I am GENUINELY curious if you could list all the "behaviours of concern" that HAVE GIVEN people the impression that Trump is inappropriate with young girl.
You can choose to include direct allegations (though im sure you are not able to) if you like or just include his utterly creepy behaviours. If you can list all of those events and quotes and still feel it's "stupid as they come", I'll be impressed.

Because I'll tell you what; I'd bet you, your father, and your male children have never done those things. Because your parents raised you right. We don't have those allegations because we don't incriminate ourselves by enjoying those past times.




Honestly you can FEEL the relief of not having to intellectually defend the alleged pedophile anymore because "it's the left's fault" again.

I don't doubt it must get tiring.

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Yeah. I dont think the left cares all that much. They know there is nothing there. If there were Biden would have released it in a second.

They are just happy to sow chaos. They love it when the Republicans are fighting. Just like we love it when the Democrats are fighting.

I mean seriously. I mean what are you going to do when you find out foreign dignitaries were involved? Demand They all be arrested? You think thats going to happen?

Show others nice courtesy
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Dikaioumenoi said:

So you're conflating two different elements of the Greek pointed out in what you yourself quoted. The corporate plural is in reference to sins, not to the scope of the saved. The future indicative σώσει guarantees that all individuals encompassed by "His people" are saved, not merely that the group as a collective survives in some abstract sense. The grammar does not allow partial fulfillment here. The corporate plural of the sins only tells us how the sins are counted; it does not redefine the scope of the salvation promised.

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Like I argued in my recent post it has nothing to do with "abstract sense", it's prophetic promise to the covenant Jewish Israel. We see this language in the OT. We understand it sematically, it's the faithful among the covenant Israel that will be saved from sin, but it's not explictly stated in Matt 1:21.

Dikaioumenoi said:

Even if the phrase historically refers to Israel, that does not determine what Matthews means in context.

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I don't see how you get the context to mean the elect among Jews and Gentiles. I see nothing like that, quite the opposite.

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Matt. 1:21 defines the referent by the nature of the salvation promised. The angel promises redemptive salvation from sin, not national deliverance. You've conceded that much, but that concession eliminates an ethnic reading. Once the salvation is spiritual and effectual, the referent cannot remain merely national. A nation can experience political or covenantal privilege, but it cannot, as a collective entity, be forgiven of sin apart from the individuals who compose it.

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You seem totally disregard the OT covenant language. Of course the nation Israel can't be forgiven apart from the individuals it's composed of. But we see from OT covenant language, it does not mean all people of the Covenant Israel are effected by the statement "save from sin".

MarkSB said:

So to be clear, you think that you can lay the entirety of those increases at the feet of Obama and the ACA? Health care cost inflation was a thing before the ACA existed, and it will continue to be a thing even if the ACA were completely removed.

On the graph below, I see a straight line right through 2010. No major change in the slope whatsoever.

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How does medical inflation compare to inflation in the rest of the economy? - Peterson-KFF Health System Tracker

In June 2024, medical inflation (3.3%) outpaced inflation in the overall economy (3.0%) for the first time since the beginning of 2021.

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This is the problem with the ACA. It did NOT do what was promised. It was promised that it would bring down the costs and it didn't. You think the continuation of the rising cost was good? When we were told it would bring it down? Thats not a win, thats a total loss.

essentialsaltes said:

Noem was quickly dragged by prominent MAGA media influencers. The Daily Wire’s Matt Walsh replied to a viral clip of her comments, “We do not want or need more people to become citizens.”

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We don't need or want more citizens. We have enough right now. We especially don't need more citizens from 3rd world countries who are coming here and transforming areas into where they came from.

essentialsaltes said:

“Not sure what is worse: this actually happening or the admin thinking this is a ‘win.’”

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I think streamlining the process is good. I think cutting down on the paperwork is good. And better vetting is good as well. I'm concerned that its not good enough.

If we believe in Jesus Christ to be Lord and Savior of our lives, this is what our faith should look like. The Word of God (the Scriptures) should be our delight. The Scriptures, and the Holy Spirit living with us, should be what are guiding our lives, giving us direction, and showing us the way in which we are to walk (in conduct, in practice). They should be our daily “bread and butter,” i.e. our daily sustenance for living. We cannot live without them.

Sadly, that is not being taught much these days. So many have reduced the gospel message to a mere verbal confession of faith in Jesus Christ which does not put sin to death in the life of the sinner, and which makes no requirements for obedience to our Lord’s commands in holy living. Thus, the teachings of the Scriptures are often being taught out of context to make them say what they do not say in context, and many are being led astray.

Therefore, a daily digest of the Scriptures, taught in context, is not being stressed much, either. Too many people are relying on the teachings of other humans in place of the teachings of Christ and his New Testament apostles. Too many are relying upon short little devotions often taught from Scriptures out of context to be their “daily bread,” i.e. their daily sustenance for living, and they are not being taught the importance of studying the Scriptures.

But reading the Scriptures ourselves is also not to be just a daily ritual we go through so that we can say that we read them. But we must be putting what we are reading into daily practice, providing that what we are reading is intended of God for us who believe in Jesus Christ. For example, we are not under the Old Covenant liturgical, ceremonial, sacrificial, purification, circumcision, dietary, and Sabbath laws. But we are still under God’s laws.

The New Covenant God has with us who believe in Jesus Christ is not lawless. His commands to us who believe in Jesus are all throughout the New Testament writings. And we are taught under the New Covenant that if we do not make obedience to God our practice, but if sin is still our practice, that, unless we repent (turn from our sin to obey God) we will not inherit eternal life with God, regardless of what professions of faith we make.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

So, this is not something to be taken lightly. The Word of God and the guidance of the Holy Spirit living within us should be what are directing our steps and guiding us in our decision making processes on a day to day basis. They are to be our “GPS,” i.e. our navigation system for daily living so that we walk in the way that is right and so that we do not end up going the wrong direction and getting lost in the cares and the traps of this world.

So, if you believe in Jesus Christ, and you have made him Lord of your life, then make His Word the lamp to your feet and the light for your path. Be dedicated to the study of the Scriptures (taught in the correct biblical context) and to putting the teachings of the Scriptures into daily practice in your lives, guided by the Holy Spirit living within you. And walk in the ways of the Lord in being and in doing what he has for you to be and to do.

His Tender Mercies

An Original Work / January 26, 2014
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Fear not! I’m with you.
Be not dismayed!
God watches o’er you.
Trust Him today.
He’ll lead and guide you;
Give you His aid.
He’ll love and keep you
With Him always.

Walk in His footsteps.
He’ll lead the way.
Trust in His love;
Believe that He cares.
He will not leave you.
Faithful He’ll be.
His tender mercies
Now you will see.

Fellowship with Him
Throughout the day.
Tell Him your heartaches.
He’ll heal always.
Rest in His comfort.
He is your friend.
Your faith He’ll strengthen,
True to the end.

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A Light to My Path
An Original Work / November 17, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Jesus please connect Rescued One with the company of people who need things she can give and can give her the things she needs.

Vanellus said:

With input from Trump.

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Yes, we should be sure to blame Trump for whatever might go bady under Mamdani's management.

Fervent said:

It's not equating the doctrine, it's about how doctrines develop. Marian theology was present and established long before formalization, and such formalization is always a response to controversy not an ordinary course of affairs. We could say similar things about the canon, or about the hypostatic union, or all manner of doctrine that were orthodox but weren't formalized until a clear need was seen for such formalization. It is your false premise about Mariology being a product of the 6th century because of its formalization in light of Nestorianism that is at issue, not the content of the doctrine themselves. But Mariology in the face of Nestorius was a Christological issue, because Nestorius denied that Jesus was God in the flesh and instead opted for a form of double naturedness.

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Before we continue let's establish where you're at with this, so I can understand what you're arguing in favor of.

Do you believe we should pray to Mary?
That we need Mary to intercede to Jesus for us?
Do you believe we should kneel to statues of Mary?
Do you believe Mary is the Queen of Heaven?
Do you believe Mary was without sin like Jesus?
Do you believe Mary was a perpetual virgin?
Do you believe Mary is the Ark of the Covenant?

There's more, but let's start with those.

Also have you read the Anathemas of the Roman Catholic Church for not subscribing to all of it?

keras said:

You avoid the fact that religious Jews cannot step on the Temple Mount;

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keras, religious Jews can walk on the Temple Mount - but not freely. They are restricted to follow the Israelis police who lead their walk as visitors. They are not allowed to go to the Dome of the Rock platform area as that is restricted by the Jerusalem Waqf to only muslims. The Dome of the Rock was built over the where the former temple sanctuary building was.

Here is a video of Jews on the temple mount.

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Apple Sky said:

I reckon that they have deliberately raised the cost of postage so that we go too emailing instead, but I refuse too be beaten.
And another thing, who's finding it harder & harder to purchase Christmas cards with Biblical images ?

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The people who used to send me cards weren't in dire poverty. Most of the boxes of cards I have are biblical. Oh, well.

I think people have lost interest.

Mark Quayle said:

So you really can't answer the question, of how anything can come about without God intending it to come about. You've got a bunch of little first causes trotting about the planet, and God being reactionary, instead of God being the source of fact, and humans being some of those facts. The authority of Chance governs your world.

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Your strawman is unpersuasive, at the very least. And your question only makes sense in your framework, so there is no need for me to answer it since I reject your framework.

Mark Quayle said:

I am curious to see your logic in the term, "self-contradictory nature of determinism." How is determinism self-contradictory? Try to be careful, for my sake, to give us a consistent definition for 'determinism'.

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It is quite simple, if determinism is true then it would be impossible for anyone to come to believe in determinism of their own accord. And the ability to reject determinism is then a demonstration of the falsity of determinism, so by affirming free will I am showing determinism to be false. And I'm not playing your silly semantic games, we both know full well what we mean by free will and determinism.

eleos1954 said:

No ... just saying they both gave pardons and that some on both sides are questionable ... at least Trumps pardons weren't signed with an auto pen ... to me that fact is highly suspicious

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Couple things...first, you don't know the autopen wasn't used, even if by Trump himself. Second, of course, you also don't know that President Biden did not know or at least approve of the use of the autopen, assuming it was used in those cases. You'd have to prove it in either case, or it's just speculation and nothing more.

Further, as to the questionability of the respective pardons, Trump clearly pardoned people who acted illegally on his behalf, explicitly or implicitly, in his attempt to overturn the 2020 election. This includes his legal teams, those who engineered or participated in the fake elector scheme, and those who stormed the Capitol on January 6. The evidence for corruption in those cases is pretty clear and very blatant, considering the fact that, had he not approved of their illegal actions, he would have no reason to pardon them.

If there is any evidence that President Biden used his power of pardon to reward those who acted illegal on his behalf, that remains to be seen. Nothing has yet been put forth as evidence for this claim. Even in the case of his son, the fact that it's his son is enough to explain his reasoning without political corruption being involved.

But, that said, if anyone wishes to make the case that President Biden corruptly used the power of the pardon (or someone did so without his knowledge via autopen), then they need to make the case with evidence, not speculation or rumors. I wonder if anyone can.

-- A2SG, so far, speculation and rumor seems to be all anyone's got....

Kent and Jakob know their stuff.



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bling said:

You said and I quote: "There is no such thing as , so, no, the Bible does not address them. We all reject God continually, all day long, with every breath we breath, even when we think we are accepting him, until he changes us, born again, 'born from above', raised from life to death.
I am just asking: "How could an unborn baby ever knowingly "reject God"??
We are talking about, "dying before becoming a believer", which can happen to an unborn baby. If you say, "We do not know", than how can you be so certain about babies one day old?

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What I said was, "There is no such thing as people who never had the opportunity to reject God, so, no, the Bible does not address them".

How can you know an unborn baby is not a believer? God does what he will. He doesn't need our notions of what a person is, nor of what constitutes enmity with him.

I compare the mind of the unborn, at whatever stage they can rightly be called a person, with the mind of the clinical idiot who has no brain activity registering, cannot hear, cannot see, doesn't respond to touch, and has no sentient "concepts" as we claim separates us from animals. Are you going to say that God cannot deal with him, and change his heart?

On a scale with that clinical idiot on one end and God on the other, where do you think those of us who can read, consider and reason stand? I think I can guarantee you that our intelligence and self-awareness is much closer to the bottom of the scale than it is to God's place. We can all make definitions for 'sin' and 'omnipotence' and so on, but God's point of view is the only one that counts, in the end.

stevevw said:

I have been thinking about the current political claimte and how people are being cancelled and even killed for their views. Is street preaching or declaring the gospel in public now a dangerous occupation.

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Don't worry, if Jesus is with you he will protect you

The Sixth Seal judgement/punishment of the nations:
Revelation 6:12-17...The sun will be darkened and the moon blood red. The leaders of the nations and every person, rich or poor will try to hide themselves, they will call to the mountains and the earth: ‘Hide us from Almighty God and from the wrath of the Lamb, for the great Day of their wrath has come and who can stand? Hosea 10:8

Luke 23:29-31 These times are bad, but the time is coming when people will say: ‘Happy are those without children to worry about’. At that time they will call to the mountains; Fall on us, and to the hills; cover us.

Isaiah 2:12-21 The Lord has a Day of doom in store, for all the proud and arrogant and all their idols. For all fortifications and military strength, for the leaders of the nations, all will be brought low and the Lord alone will be exalted on that Day.
When the Lord arises and strikes the world with terror, everyone will try to hide in caves and holes in the ground from the power of His judgement.

2 Peter 3:7 & 12 Look forward to the coming day of the Lord, that Day will set the sky ablaze and flames will envelope the earth.

Ezekiel 21:4-11 O man: Why do you groan so bitterly? Because of what I have heard, is about to take place. Everyone will be terrified, they will wet their pants in fear. The Lord draws His sword of slaughter, sharpened and ready, from its scabbard. The Destroyer will kill both the righteous and wicked alike in the [holy] Land.

Jeremiah 4:23-29 The earth is reeling and in chaos, the land is shaking, the hills rocking to and fro. The Land becomes empty, even the birds have gone and the cities are flattened and the Land desolated. The sky is darkened and to escape the approaching disaster, the people dive for cover and scramble for shelter in the mountains. The Lord’s plan is made known, He will not relent or change it.

Joel 1:15-20 The Day is near, the Day of the Lord – it comes as a mighty destruction from the Almighty. It is already before us, joy and gladness are gone, now the [holy] Land is burnt and desolated, for fire has consumed the towns and everything in the countryside.
Ref: REB. Some verses abridged.

Four times the prophets tell us that in the 24 hour period between the initial flash and the arrival of the superheated mass of the enormous Coronal Mass Ejection the Lord will use on His Day of Wrath, people will be terrified and will scramble for cover. Many other prophecies say how all will be shocked, frightened or paralyzed with fear.
The sky will be darkened because the sun will be obscured by the approaching mass and the moon will burn bright red from the thermoluminiscent reaction between the superheated hydrogen and the aluminium and other oxides of the moon dust. Joel 2:31

The result of this sunstrike will leave the entire Middle East burnt and desolate, Ezekiel 30:1-5, but most of the rest of the world will survive to establish a One World Government and as Isaiah 30:26 says: On the Day He takes action with a CME, that is the Day He will save His faithful Christian people. They will migrate in a great Exodus and live in all of the holy Land, as the Lord originally intended for His people.