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linux.poet · 2025-11-28T23:28:24-0600

Gracious Heavenly Father and Lord Jesus,
I pray for Your mercy on FoundinGrace's financial situation. I pray for another job if that is Your Will, but also Your wisdom about what forms of aid are available to them and what You would have them do. 2 jobs not enough to make ends meet? Please help them and shower them with relief.
In Christ's Name,
Amen

Truth7t7 · 2025-11-28T23:26:37-0600

RDKirk said:
Let's remember that the 2025 plan is to remove merit-based selection entirely from the Senior Executive Service (the Civil Service equivalent of general officers) and replace them with political appointees.

More like removing the enemies within, better known as cleaning house

linux.poet · 2025-11-28T23:24:06-0600

Dreyma said:
As much as I like my current pastor and appreciate his sermons, I might need to try a different church. There's no young people.

I would try a single's group, if one is available. I tend to advocate the "pick the church for the teaching and look elsewhere for the social group" approach.

Having old people as friends can be very useful though. They tend to have money and be very smart. Usually how I befriend them is going to Bible Studies and quilting groups, but you may need to change up your approach depending on your interests.

another_lost_guy · 2025-11-28T23:17:51-0600

Hans Blaster said:
I am. Where do you think I've been discussing pseudoscience with the likes of Mr. Steve?

There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

That is not true. Why do you lie? How am I lying. What is untrue in what I said. Read the full sentence you quoted. How is that not making out he is an amateur when it comes to the marks on stone. What is the difference in knowing the strirations and marks on vases to the marks on other...

www.christianforums.com

On a Christian forum which proves my point

Hans Blaster said:
I don't try to look in to the minds of killers who commit mass shootings.

Then why even ask if people are being killed for believing in God or not if this answer was going to be your endgame all along? Total red herring and moot point.

Hans Blaster said:
A large number of them seem driven by narcessism

NarcIssism. Learn to spell. 2 can play at that game ^_^

Hans Blaster said:
and doing one up on the prior mass killers. Some times there targets are from personal connections of some kind (their old school, etc.) others not. When some loser shoots up a mosque or synagogue is it because the people inside believe in God, or because the shooter hates Muslims or Jews. Who can tell?

Again, you asked a question you weren't willing to hear the answer to and when I gave the answer you walked it back to suit your narrative because there is no win or lose condition in this. If people were being killed for believing in God you say who knows what the actual motivation is and if people aren't being killed for believing in God you say welp looks like I'm right.

Also, you're being pseudoscientific and hypocritical again by believing the universe revolves around America and ignoring the half billion Christians being explicitly persecuted for being Christian such as the Kasanga massacre that happened this year in the Congo.

Hans Blaster said:
What? There are are *way* more than 1/2 Billion Chritian outside the US.

ChriStian. See how annoying that is? I'll stop if you stop. I know there's more than a half billion Christians. The half billion are just the ones living under governments that persecute them. Which you refuse to engage with because your pride doesn't allow you to concede a single point of any argument, regardless of topic

Hans Blaster said:
Something like 90% of Christians are not Americans. "Ignoring" non-Americans doesn't have anything to do with science.

You acted like they didn't exist earlier by ignoring them and they do exist according to science

Hans Blaster said:
So?

I thought you'd care about black people but it's just an assumption

stevevw · 2025-11-28T23:16:38-0600

Hans Blaster said:
Irrelevant. (It is odd that you have moved towards questioning our credentials when you know that we have them and you won't even indicate what even remotely relevant experience or knowledge you bring to any of this.)

This is all subjective and contextual. Someones an expert in machining, another an expert in software development, still another an expert Mason, Archeologist, Egyptologist, Engineer, Physicist, Chemist, Anthroplogist, Sociologist, Cultural expert ect ect ect.

I bring my own expertise in the fields of Sociology, Psychology and Cultural Studies including Anthropology. I also have experience in building and carpentry. But I don't claim to be an expert in those fields of machining and tooling. I understand the basic principles.

But the context is I presented King and others as the experts and not myself. I am able to read the credentials of King and his expertise. It is his credentials and expertise I am calling on. So someone with similar expertise can certainly dispute his opinion. But that has not happened yet.

When I say has not happened yet I mena I have only seen Kings credentials and no one has actually shown me these credentials and work. Unless you want me to just believe the claims without any support. That would be poor epistemics. Why would anyone take words alone as sufficent evidence.

In other words I not disputing that someone can have 4expertise on this thread. I am saying show men the same credentials as King where we can go to a site or reference and read about it other than from the person themselves ie independent of the person saying it.

Hans Blaster said:
Granite and metals are quite different materials. Granite would make a lousy bicycle hub. Mr. Smith doesn't have any experience working with ancient technologies.

Thats a blantant unsupported opinion. Were is the reasoning that this is the case. Where is the evidence that his knowledge of machining and tooling in metals cannot be applied to making similar shapes in stone.

Does not the same lathing for circularity work for both metal, wood and granite. Its just a case of the different cutters and the related mechanisms that will sustain the harder cut. But the same principles of cutting are involved.

But evenso you have and others have on this thread offered support for their arguements for or against lathing and maching from their own knowledge an dexperience in working with machining on wood and metals. So its bias anyway to start singling out King when the same criteria is not applied to others on this thread.

Let me ask, who would be more of an expert of the method used to create the vases. An Archeologist or a machinist and tooling expert who makes similar shapes.

Hans Blaster said:
That's what actual experts on ancient stone working *would* know, but you are very eager to ignore their expertise.

And you are very eager to dimiss King. Not only is he an expert in making similar shapes and understand the difference in mechanisms and tooling to achieve cuts in granite. He has been studying the very stone vases for years as well.

So he is both an expert machinist and has more than the average knowledge specifically on the Egyptian vases having studied them for years. I think he is more knowlegable than anyone on this thread as far as the vases are concerned.

But I also find it strange how it has come to having to defend good people as credible in the first place.

Hans Blaster said:
That you think of this as "sides" rather than seeking of truth is telling. There is an experience machinist on "our side", but you also seemingly ignore *his* expertise as well.

I have not. This is a falsehood. I acknowledge their experience and never said they had none. As mentioned above it is a case of showing me the independent evidence and not just the opinions on a social media site.

I was not the one who started to fixate on the credibility of everything I linked before it was investigated. I was not the one who started this scrutinising of the credentials of people when they were called amateurs and all other demeaning names.

I have been made to jump through loops left right and center. Demanding written independent evidence for good sources like peer review. Knocking down research because it was not peer reviewed.

Therefore I expect the same level of scrutiny and evidence for the credentials of those attacking the sources and people. The same level of criteria should apply. I have not once seen a paper, scientific article or even a reference or blod even with anyone on this thread showing independent evidence of their credentials.

I am not saying there is none. I am saying give me the same respect and standards as you deman of me. Show me peer review, scientific articles, of the work ect like it was demanded of those I have bene linking. Otherwise this is completely one sided and bias.

Hans Blaster said:
You assume a "cutter" when that isn't established

You assume he doesn't know the difference. He is part of the same project that actually went and got a granite vase made at a Chinese vase manufacturer. He has studied the application to granite. He has specialised in the granite vases for years now getting to know a lot of stuff about them.

Landon Caeli · 2025-11-28T23:16:07-0600

Hans Blaster said:
You really think you are special, don't you?

Sorry. I'm just kidding. :hug:

linux.poet · 2025-11-28T23:14:20-0600

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GodDoesListen55 · 2025-11-28T23:00:14-0600

RileyG said:
Amen! Me too!

Amen; thanks, Riley!

Guojing · 2025-11-28T22:58:32-0600

sovereigngrace said:
Yes.

So at least we agree on something, alright, let's move on.

GoldenKingGaze · 2025-11-28T22:58:15-0600

For century after century porneia in the new testament was translated as sexual immorality. But in the 20th century, romantic poetry and arts leaned towards porneia being love. Romatic love, unrequited love, love at first sight, free love. People moved by lust commit adultery and can't deny their feelings and falll in love with the other woman and leave the wife for the lover. There are stories true and fiction of men falling in love with their prostitute. A lover can be, or become first love. Ladies can be in love with their first love, lover for the rest of their life, despite getting married and having children with the second love.

Is it simple as saying porneia is sexual immorality?

linux.poet · 2025-11-28T22:56:29-0600

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HARK! · 2025-11-28T22:54:25-0600

NxNW said:
That makes up for less than half of the 8% loss mentioned in my post.

So is that an all time high; or is that an 8% loss?

Pommer · 2025-11-28T22:53:05-0600

Postvieww said:
The “official “ liberal narrative of Jan 6 is bunk! Go figure. The unofficial Jan 6 committee was a sham and is being exposed.

Akita Suggagaki said:
No damage done then?

Postvieww said:
Yes a young woman was murdered and many people were denied rights.

Who was the incumbent President who presided when this young woman was killed?

Vambram · 2025-11-28T22:45:24-0600

Fantine said:
I wonder how many investigations pencil pushers had to go through to find some minor clerical error like that.

It ain't a minor clerical error. It is breaking the law.

Unqualified · 2025-11-28T22:43:18-0600

It’s mostly spiritual blessings now.

Unqualified · 2025-11-28T22:39:45-0600

As per title. What’s wrong with that?

RabbiJames · 2025-11-28T22:39:07-0600

MAL 1:1-2:7

The prophet speaks and writes through the Ruach HaKodesh (Holy Spirit), “Jacob have I loved, but Esau I have hated”. You ask, “Isn't God love?” Isn't God all about love? Why does he “hate poor Esau?” The word “hate” has the same meaning as “reject”. YHVH, who is “all knowing,” knew even before Esau was born that he would reject HIM, so YHVH rejected Esau! Even in Hebrews 12:16 speaks about "the godless Esau, who, for a single morsel of food, gave up and despised his birthright."

Polluted offerings, corrupt priests. No wonder God is fed up with Israel, they have gone “the way of Esau” offering God the “left-overs” and not offering with “pure hearts”. It is like today, if we serve the LORD with less than our best, or only with “half a heart” or just because we feel we “have to” then, we are offering “polluted offerings”. We should serve GOD with all we have, with the best we have, or not at all!

He has given all believers the gifts of the Spirit, the abilities to serve God while we are on Earth. Are we using those to serve, or, are we like the servant who buried the master's talent in the ground? Let's use our "talents of spiritual gifts" wholeheartedly as faithful sons and daughters of the Most High.

MATT 10:1-11:30

Yeshua sends out the twelve talmidim (disciples) to teach the Torah and to share the word that Yeshua is the Mashiach, who has fulfilled all the prophecies of the Torah. First, to the “lost sheep of Israel,” remember that Israel has been scattered to many different countries, many being absorbed by the nations, yet still remember their identity, but even in Israel, there are those who need to know the truth about Yeshua as Messiah, prophesied by Moshe and the prophets

The work and ministry of sharing/teaching the WORD of God is not a lone undertaking; it is to be shared by many, and ALL who have that calling. Even Yeshua, God in human form, could not be in all places at the same time, so he sent out his followers to fulfill the “Great Commission”.

Today, we are equipped with the “gifts of the Spirit” to fulfill this great task, and today we have the internet to help spread the “Good News,” whereas hundreds of years ago, only papers and books were available to those who took up that task. We are living in exciting times; let's take advantage of everything that is available to us today. Use all things to the glory of God.

ROM 9:6-13

Very interesting verses; “For not everyone from Israel is truly part of Israel. Indeed, not all descendants are from the seed of Abraham. From the Hebrew New Covenant, it says, “Lo kol asher heim mi-Yisrael gam Yisrael” (not all of them who are from Israel also Israel).

As we recall, Abraham had two sons from Sarah's womb, Ishmael and Yitzchak. Although both were his sons, the promise was given to Yitzchak. The descendants of Ishmael are now the Arab countries. Can we say that they also have the same interests that all believers have? Are they not following another religion? Even though quite a few are born-again believers.

In Israel today, we see quite a few cultures and people groups, not all are direct descendants of Abraham. But let’s go a step further and say, “Not all have the faith of our father, Israel,” and many in “Israel” have little or no faith at all, so how can we have the faith of “Israel” and thus be part of “Am Yisrael?”

It is through the “Yeshua Connection” that we are connected to the “Truth.” "I am the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE" (John 14:6)

So, to be a real part of “Am Yisrael” to be part of the “Covenant of Abraham” it doesn’t depend on blood relation, but “Spirit” relation. One can be a physical descendant of Abraham and be lost and going to hell. Still, one can turn that relationship around and be “heaven-bound” through a personal relationship with Messiah Yeshua, the hope of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

RDKirk · 2025-11-28T22:31:20-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Hegseth declines to comment on report that boat survivors were killed as a result of his orders to military
According to The Washington Post, the Sept. 2 boat strike initially left two survivors clinging to the boat. The Post says Adm. Mitch Bradley, head of Special Operations Command, then ordered a second strike in order to comply with Hegseth's orders and to ensure the survivors couldn't call on other traffickers to retrieve them and their cargo.

If true, it is unclear why Bradley wouldn't have ordered troops to collect the survivors and their cargo from the water, as the military did in a subsequent strike when two survivors were taken aboard a Navy ship via helicopter.

"The Department has no response to this article and declines to comment further," a Pentagon spokesperson said Friday.
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Some experts say the alleged “double-tap” strike may violate the law of armed conflict, which forbids targeting an enemy combatant who’s out of the fight due to injury or surrender.

“They’re breaking the law either way,” Sarah Harrison, a senior analyst at the Crisis Group think tank who served as associate general counsel at the Pentagon, told CNN. “They’re killing civilians in the first place, and then if you assume they’re combatants, it’s also unlawful — under the law of armed conflict, if somebody is ‘hors de combat’ and no longer able to fight, then they have to be treated humanely.”

Yes, a "double tap" would be a crime, if it happened that way. If it happened, though, I doubt an admiral ordered it.

essentialsaltes said:
Hegseth's got a date in the Hague.

No, the US will either shoot its own dog or protect it.

Bro.T · 2025-11-28T22:17:55-0600

Hentenza said:
I am following the inspired word of God. You are not replying to my posts but just trying to preach over them. I, in the other hand, have replied to your posts. Give me the same courtesy that I have afforded you. I’m not going to reply to this post until you reply to mine.

I am replying, you just don't believe whats being said. I'm showing you Paul talks about more then one law, more then one death, but you pretend as you don't see what's being written. Problem is that you have to be retaught this word, but in most cases it don't happen, because you in to deep under the Roman Christianity doctrine.

If I post this verse (1John 3:4) Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Now we have just read the biblical definition of sin, the transgression (breaking) of the law (commandments.) This verse alone just killed the mindset that all the laws nail to the cross. As long as sin is still in the world, all the laws are not nail to the cross. Paul says in (Rom. 4:15) Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. If there is no law there is no sin. This is common sense, you running around the new testament quoting all the places to do away with law, which another law, thats' not the Ten Commandments. I show you what law that is, you just don't believe it. In (1John 2:3-4) (v.3) And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. (v.4) he that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. Jesus says in (Mat.5:17-19) (v.17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. (v.18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. (v.19) Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Jesus came to fulfill, to fill to the full (Gk. plereo). He fulfilled many prophecies - but not all. There are many in the Book of Revelation still to be fulfilled. There is still some in the Old Testament that hasn’t been fulfilled. Jesus at His first coming came to fulfilled that which was written for Him to fulfill at His first coming. He has NOT fulfilled everything that was written for Him to do. And He kept all of the Law

But look what Paul say in 2 Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. Now any Christian in their right mind wouldn’t dare say that it’s okay to steal, kill or commit adultery or break any of the other seven commandments. But when it comes to the fourth commandment, people avoid it like a plague! They are either uninformed about which day is the Sabbath day of the God of the Bible or they are just following the tradition of religion that was passed down through the family or maybe they have let some preacher give them other excuses for ignoring God’s true day of worship.

Going to church on Sunday, the pagan holidays of Christmas and Easter, praying to the Virgin Mary, I could go on and on. And most so-called Christians know these rituals have nothing to do with Jesus and the Bible, but a lot of work get put into them. But do they understand that they are offensive to God? Maybe it’s because they have more faith in man than God, maybe it’s because they fear how man is going to treat them, and don’t fear God. We must realize, that it is the keeping of God’s holy laws that separates the righteous from the unrighteous and the Saints from the Sinners. (Titus: 3:8) This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men. You must learn (by the word of God) what God expects of you and maintain his expectations to the end, if you expect to be saved. Jesus says in (Matt. 5:16) Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. You are supposed to glorify your Father in heaven, and let your light shine before men. And how do you do that? By having good works.

peace in Jesus name

Pommer · 2025-11-28T22:16:46-0600

rambot said:
I'll be the first to say this is an old poll and I am more than welcome to see new contradictory evidence if it can be presented but....
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/14/politics/independents-pew

I have never really met a self identified "Independent" who has had a truly centrist position (or; who argues "both sides" with equal vigor)

What do you all think of Independents? IF you are one, do you believe that you are an exception to that rule?

From the OP link:

These results are based on a Pew Research Center analysis of surveys of all adults conducted in 2019 and earlier. Results on Trump’s approval rating are based on a compilation of 2018 surveys conducted, and results on the wall are based on a survey from January 9 through 14, 2019.

The data is nearly seven years old. “Worthless” is being optimistic.

Landon Caeli · 2025-11-28T22:13:40-0600

Well, we couldn't get Greenland, Canada, the Gaza Strip or the Panama Canal. I guess all that's left is Venezuela.

...It'll have to do, and is only about a 2 hour flight, to the Panama Canal.

bbbbbbb · 2025-11-28T22:11:39-0600

Bob Crowley said:
You can always set the example yourself.

True enough.

9Rock9 · 2025-11-28T22:09:21-0600

So, since this is the moderate forum, I must ask, what makes you a moderate?

I'm personally starting to think I am a moderate, but I also kinda wary of the label due to fear of drifting towards progressive Christianity and theological liberalism.

I come from a conservative evangelical background, so I saw moderates as a slippery slope towards apostasy.

Now, though, I am not sure if I am a conservative anymore. I still hold conservative viewpoints on Nicene orthodoxy and LGBT related issues pertaining to weddings and ordination, but I think I am moderate on most other issues.

I think the Bible is infallible when it comes to matters of faith and practice, and its purpose is to point the reader to salvation. It's not meant to be a science textbook nor an exhaustive source of all knowledge.

I lean towards a complementarian stance on women's ordination, but I also now know there's more nuance to the issue than I had initially assumed. Aside from thinking the office of pastor should be reserved for men only, I think I am a believer in gender equality in all other areas of life.

I guess I realize that some initial assumptions I held were wrong, and I think I am closer to moderate viewpoints, but I worry about drifting towards liberalism.

A minor thing, but I have been told mainline denominations might be a better fit for me, even though I still think of myself as an Evangelical, though that's likely due to the stereotype of mainline = liberal.

What about you? Anyone else have similar concerns?

DreamyLaLa · 2025-11-28T22:04:25-0600

Multifavs said:
I'm not a fan of the latest Pokemon games either. I don't know that much about them, actually, but I don't like the way the gameplay was changed after many years of being the same. It seems like that should have been saved for spinoffs. Some of the character design and content has indeed gotten pretty weird, from what little I've seen.

The good news is that none of the stuff I mentioned in my previous post is official - there is actually no proof at all of the character I mentioned being a deity, nor is it ever treated as such in the games. The bad stuff is all made up by probably non-Christian fans who have a warped view of the Kirby series.

Yeah, I agree with you about Pokemon's gameplay changing...

I'm glad the stuff about Kirby Air Riders doesn't seem to be official. Fans will say anything about a franchise.

Valletta · 2025-11-28T21:55:51-0600

A2SG said:
Please show us this evidence. I'd love to see it.

-- A2SG, so far, I ain't seen any....

The Biden Autopen Presidency: Decline, Delusion, and Deception in the White House - United States House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform

United States House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform

oversight.house.gov

Go through the recorded statements of the Biden people and get back to us.

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