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State leaders speak out about plans to expand the Islamic Academy of Alabama
- By Lukaris
- News & Current Events (Articles Required)
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I do warehouse and janitorial work and if I lived in India, I would probably be a Dalit stuck in a caste system with thousands of years of formal structure. It would be the result of my karma and my underclass status would be deserved because of past lives I supposedly wasn’t “enlightened” to deserve better. Capitalism hasn’t discriminated against me religiously, culturally or socioeconomically. Capitalism can thrive if people have civil rights and economic opportunity. If I didn’t have a low IQ, I would do much better in a capitalist system.
It seems like secularists can rationalize a caste system from economic data in a secular economy and equate wealth & poverty ( which is a human condition) with a structural economic disparity of a formal caste system that is based on primitive religiosity of a concept like karma. Capitalism can be good or bad depending on obvious economic and social conditions.
The case of the Dalits in holdovers from the caste system in India:
Socioeconomic status and discrimination
Discrimination against Dalits has been observed across South Asia and among the South Asian diaspora. In 2001, the quality of life of the Dalit population in India was worse than that of the overall Indian population on metrics such as access to health care, life expectancy, education attainability, access to drinking water and housing.[64][65][66] According to a 2007 report by Human Rights Watch (HRW), the treatment of Dalits has been like a "hidden apartheid" and that they "endure segregation in housing, schools, and access to public services". HRW noted that Manmohan Singh, then Prime Minister of India, saw a parallel between the apartheid system and untouchability.[67] Eleanor Zelliotalso notes Singh's 2006 comment but says that, despite the obvious similarities, race prejudice and the situation of Dalits "have a different basis and perhaps a different solution".[27] Though the Indian Constitution abolished untouchability, the oppressed status of Dalits remains a reality. In rural India, stated Klaus Klostermaier in 2010, "they still live in secluded quarters, do the dirtiest work, and are not allowed to use the village well and other common facilities".[68] In the same year, Zelliot noted that "In spite of much progress over the last sixty years, Dalits are still at the social and economic bottom of society."[27]According to the 2014 NCAER/University of Maryland survey, 27 per cent of the Indian population still practices untouchability; the figure may be higher because many people refuse to acknowledge doing so when questioned, although the methodology of the survey was also criticised for potentially inflating the figure.[69] Across India, Untouchability was practised among 52 per cent of Brahmins, 33 per cent of Other Backward Classes and 24 per cent of non-Brahmin forward castes.[70] Untouchability was also practised by people of minority religions – 23 per cent of Sikhs, 18 per cent of Muslims and 5 per cent of Christians.[71]According to statewide data, Untouchability is most commonly practised in Madhya Pradesh (53 per cent), followed by Himachal Pradesh (50 per cent), Chhattisgarh (48 per cent), Rajasthan and Bihar (47 per cent), Uttar Pradesh (43 per cent), and Uttarakhand (40 per cent).[72]
Dalit - Wikipedia
Ecclesiastes 12:1-14, Romans 13:1-14
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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)
- By Factotum
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This is great idea info. Thanks for sharing!The US military has not previously directly attacked drug operations. However, the military has provided intelligence support to Latin American militaries:
"In the 1990s, the U.S. military assisted Colombian and Peruvian antidrug law enforcement activities by sharing information about civilian flights suspected of carrying drugs — like radar data and communications intercepts. But after those governments started shooting down such planes, the Clinton administration in 1994 halted the assistance for months.
The Office of Legal Counsel produced an opinion saying that military officers who provided such information while knowing it would be used to summarily shoot down those aircraft could be putting themselves at risk of later prosecution. Congress eventually modified U.S. law to permit such assistance.
And the Navy has long participated in intercepting vessels in international waters that are suspected of smuggling drugs toward the United States. But naval ships typically do so as a law enforcement operation, working under the command of a U.S. Coast Guard officer. Under an 1878 law called the Posse Comitatus Act, it is generally illegal to use the military to perform law enforcement functions."
....and such operations can lead to misidentifcation and inocent civilians dying:
"On 20 April 2001, the Peruvian Air Force (FAP) shot down a civilian floatplane, killing American Christian missionary Veronica "Roni" Bowers and her infant daughter Charity.[1]
While flying into the Loreto Region of Peru, Bowers, her daughter Charity, husband Jim, and six-year-old son Cory were being followed by a United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) observation plane. The Peruvian Air Force was operating as part of the Air Bridge Denial Program. The CIA did not attempt to identify the tail number of the church-owned plane per procedure."
2001 Peru Cessna 185 shootdown - Wikipedia
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I had 2 questions after reading it;
▪︎Do you know how many months, the Clinton Admin waited, before continuing to aid Peruvian and Colombian GOVTs with the bombing of those planes --while awaiting Congress to modify the laws?
▪︎If you are aware of Sen. John Fetterman rejecting Adam Schiff's recent attempt to end Trump's power to bomb Caribbean drug trafficking boats... can you list why you would dispute or support Fetterman 's stance?
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Tit for Tat Tariffs - The US versus the World
- American Politics
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No, you, unilaterally, would not be allowed to do that. We The People can do that.
I don't know if it's enhanced our National Security, but Trump has enhanced China's access to more advanced chips.
Well, at least we're getting our $25%.
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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History
- By stevevw
- Physical & Life Sciences
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Except for the clear observational evidence of melted, weakened or softened stones. I gave you th evidence you you skipped it. Its easy to claim no evidence when you skip it.
So what do you think this is. How is this stupid. It is you I think who is being silly by claiming that this is not evidence for stone melting and softening.
First image vitrified and melted stones at Dun Knock Hill Fort. Image two softened stones showing vitrification and flaking of surface at Cusco. Image 3 melted and fused stones of vitrified ramparts in Scotland. The paper for this was in the video I linked.
So I fail to see how you claim there was no evidence.
Just in case you want to dismiss the above heres some more.
Reproduction of melting behavior for vitrified hillforts based on amphibolite, granite, and basalt lithologies - Scientific Reports
European Bronze and Iron Age vitrified hillforts have been known since the 1700s, but archaeological interpretations regarding their function and use are still debated. We carried out a series of experiments to constrain conditions that led to the vitrification of the inner wall rocks in the...
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Its not just about Egypt. But they definitely had some way of softening stones. Similar signatures are found between the Egyptian stones in walls and the Purvians.
I gave you the paper on the tests which showed that the cast blocks at Menkaure pyramid. They found Diatomaceous Earth (DE) within the mix which was not natural to limestone. Its easy to claim no evidence when you ignore it.
Then theres the scoop marks. You ignored all that evidence. Never mentioned it once. All you did was claim they used bigger pounders without one bit of evidence. Just like the claim that the split the pyramid blocks within evidence. Contradicting your own side that the blocks were hand sawed.
You forget I provided images of softened stones on the Temples around the pyramids and within the cemetaries east and west. You fobbed this off with the stock standard unsupported claim that the Egyptians must have pounded and ground the stone to look like it spread like putty within cracks lol. I guess pounding and grinding can do anything. But you provided absolutely no evidence for this.
So please be consistent and deal with that evidence. Either provide the same level of demands you want of me with peer review or something scientific showing that this was done by grinding or stop making unsubstanciated claims and then have the hide to claim I have provided no evidence. Its easy to make that claim when you ignore or dismiss my evidence.
I have more than provided evidence that the ancients were able to melt, soften, fuse, reconstitute and weaken stones. And I am not going back to reprove what I have already linked that you ignored. If you want to dispute this then find the links as I am not redoing this for the 5th time lol.
Already did last post and you ignored it. So please go back and check. As well as what is provided above.
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